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Best birdie edition
We're also watching a movie tonight! Vote on which one you want to see
http://www.strawpoll.me/12485875

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

>What should I do with the armour/weapons I don't want/use?
Purple/Blue = Disassemble (Then use the blue mats to forge a purple if you have enough)
Yellow/White = Sell or you can give it to the kodamas for amrita and the odd free item.

>What does the summoning candle do?
It returns your guardian spirit to you when you die along with the amrita you collected.

>Should I use soul match?
Honestly, no, not unless you have basically finished the game and have a weapon with some really great stats. As you progress you will get a steady flow of new weapons and armour that is better than what you have. Don't waste your money on soul matching until later.

>Why do people keep mentioning "smithing texts"?
Bosses tend to drop pieces of their armour and weapons when you defeat them. Very rarely they will drop a smithing text which allows you to forge their armour/weapon.

>Which clan should I join? (clan unlocked through progression)
Whichever one has a bonus that you think will benefit your build the most.
Smaller clans receive more rewards in battles.

List of smithing texts:
http://pastebin.com/CayVK8TG (updated)

Graves and revenants info:
http://pastebin.com/9bYH0Nf8

Maxed guardian spirits:
http://imgur.com/a/q0bu4
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ded edition

>>170477743
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I wish smithing texts would drop more frequently.
Probably killed Shiggy more than 30 times and still only have the text for his armor (Guess I can count myself lucky for at least that)
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>>170478654
How much luck do you have?
I have 392 and it usually only takes like 5 tries
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>warrior of the west set gives bonus dmg to people afflicted by lightning
>sword is water
WHY
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In case you guys wanted to know how much you need to forge a (+10) weapon

>(+10)
>(+9) * 2
>(+8) * 4
>(+7) * 8
>(+6) * 16
>(+5) * 32
>(+4) * 64
>(+3) * 128
>(+2) * 256
>(+1) * 512
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>>170480212
Im guessing the set is supposed to be paired with the Raiken or Raikiri
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Not only is NG+ boring, but I just ran into a duplicate glitch that lets you soul forge your weapon without losing the base weapon.

What on earth can the DLC offer?
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>>170480637
Not base sorry, the secondary one you loose after transferring the inherent skill. The glitch lets me keep the secondary weapon.
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>>170480637
how do you do it?
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>>170480602
but I like my spears too much :/
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>>170480212
You could always use the Onmyo buffs.
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>>170480823
then go for the doggos or use Sakon's spear if you want to take advantage of the lightning
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>>170480823
Use Sakon then
Its literally one of the best, if not the best spear you can get
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>>170481134
I love the doggo

turns spirit weapon from something I need to carefully manage into a buff that's available for anything looking like a challenge
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Guys,

How in the world do I get to the 4th region.
I understand doing more quests fills up the meter on the lower left, but this is taking forever. Did first sub mission and it barely rose. Tell me theres something i can do to make it go faster.
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>>170480269
It's a pain in the ass alright, but my autism is sated when I get that 150 +10 to soul match with the 160.
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>>170480269
good thing you never have to grind up only +1s
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I used to be a kodama
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>>170482336
Main missions restore a larger chunk than side missions. Also do yokai realm with a companion to make it less tedious.
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How do I three kellys?
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>>170483843
Boil the first, baste the second and fry the third
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what's the most luck that can be on an accessory?
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>>170483843
Handcannon
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Went into a mission with a large chunk of amrita and there's no shrine.

How do I get out of this?
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>>170483843
hmm
if only the game gave you some sort of literal hyper god mode where you cannot be harmed and you shit out damage during it.
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>>170485071
use a branch
or just don't die twice in a row
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>>170484928
50
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took a while to grow on me, but this game's fun
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>>170485701
cool. That's from black fans, right? I have never gotten one better than +30
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>>170486060
The alpha took a long while to grow on me. I was ready to quit but kept going just a bit longer and ended up loving it. First time that ever happened to me with a game and I've been playing since NES days. Usually I either like something at the start or don't and my opinion doesn't really change.
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>>170486289
the alpha was awful with weapon durability, etc. I'm glad they changed from that
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>>170486289
I was the same way, but with the beta. I kept trying to play it like Dark Souls and it was a big mistake. I must've died to Oniryuki 10 times before I accepted what I was doing wasn't right. I'm glad I did because even though there are minor flaws, this is definitely GOTY contender for me
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>>170486453
Yeah that was one thing that really dragged it down among a few others. Thankfully it's out.
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>>170486609
yeah if it stayed in I wouldn't have kept playing, but I also get the feeling that came before a Diablo loot system was decided on and wasn't removed in time for alpha
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The translation I feel was different from alpha and beta to final. Enemies from the alpha/beta have their Japanese names: Onryuki, Hino-enma, Nue, but then we have later bosses like "Giant Toad" and such that are using english names which sound rather genetic.
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>>170486956
as funny as "pronounced giant toad" is, that's not really true. For instance, One Eyed Imp and One Eyed Giant had translated names despite being in early demos, and the final product has stuff like Yuki-onna and Dasha-Gokuro. sure I agree the inconsistency is weird but it's not really related to alpha vs beta vs final
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So the game started by having a grave near the walls that gave a hint on which gesture not to do. The hint graves stopped awhile ago.

How are you supposed to figure out which gesture color todo if you only get two tries?
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>>170487532
That's really very jarring. I don't get the logic. I also wonder if they'll patch out the "pronounced Giant Toad" or if it's kind of an intentional joke.
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>>170489284
Guess pretty much. I hear red may be the rarest but that could be wrong.

The walls aren't that hard to kill normally anyway though.
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How do i get the stats to stop being greyed out?
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>>170489567
there are stat requirements at the bottom under all the resists, you gotta have at least that
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>>170489567

Look at the bottom of the item. Do you meet the stat requirements?
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>>170489567
>played through the whole game to NG+
>still can't figure out stat requirements
how retarded are you?
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>>170489821
you'd be surprised just how many people don't look at the bottom of the screen
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>>170478101
where can i watch?
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>>170478101
I bet people voted for Kagemusha just because it's newer ;^)
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I know that it's easiest to get Yasakani Magatama from Trail of the master, but are those ones of a worse quality since the mission is lower leveled?
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>>170491542
NG ones have the lower end of percentage rolls and defense, but they still get the same loot table
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>>170492170
I meant in NG+. Like is something I get in a 225 mission (like accessories, etc.) going to be worse than something I get as a drop from one of the 310 missions?
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>>170492827
No
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Im so fucking sick of every single revenant wearing the red demon armor.
Buncha faggots all of em
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>>170493184
Alright, wish granted. Now everyone will wear Kingos instead
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>>170492827
higher missions will have better chance of dropping a higher + one

i have one +0 yasakani, and a +5 one. stat rolls seem pretty much the same but the defense on the +5 is a fair bit higher
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Trying to do some quick demon king revealed amrita farming to see how good my equipment is for it at the moment and had a quick question pop up. Do I activate suzaku when my health is critical (flashing red) or do I let it bring me back from the dead via the self revive skill or is there no difference?
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>>170493184
then forge your own armor instead
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Anyone want to farm Two Kings with me?
Im lvl 370 so I can hold my own pretty well
I need a couple of +4 or higher weapons to get my kusa up to +10

Pass is VIDYA
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>Thread almost ded already


Post bullying
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>>170496352
We too busy playing Nier buddy.
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>9 daiba washi guardian talismans and 9 groundfire traps
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>>170496352
>>170496463
I hate this shit
It feels like the game is fucking dead and Im one of the only guys whos constantly playing it

Do we even have other people here who's over lvl 300?
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>>170497130
I'm 305. gonna shoot for 750 eventually but I want to get a +amrita Yasakani first
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>>170496352
>sloth
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>>170497217
>Amrita gained Yasakani
Good luck. I've been trying for days
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>>170497393
I don't even use it nowadays. I keep it on for Onryudos and ninja Yoki sometimes. Not much else I can use it for, since everything in this game gets broken by the end
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>>170497581
I know, I've tried for so long.
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>>170497130
i don't want to get too strong before the updates/dlc
nothing left for me to do besides leveling though, so i'm on hiatus
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>>170497581
amrita multiplier gauge is in the same group as change to defense spirit and since ctd spirit is mandatory on a yasakani, it isn't a possible roll
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>>170497935
>>170497581
>>170497217
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>>170498000
going max level is dumb anyway
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>>170497935
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP
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>>170497935
that's Amrita Gauge, not Amrita Earned or Amrita Earned during LW.
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>>170497130
149, taking it slow, having a blast, and don't plan to stop anytime soon. Really looking forward to updates and DLC. I also have another William that does everything my first William didn't do, so that's another one or two hundred hours I'll spend.
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>>170498242
true

you can get those rolls on yasakani
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Is it true there's no endgame content?
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>>170498456
they're adding pvp, another level of difficulty and tower style waved-based arena soon

right now, there is just NG+ and farming perfect gear
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>>170498456
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>>170498456
No?
I have over 185 hours now, and Im still enjoying myself despite completing NG+
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>>170498456
what do you consider endgame content? it's an ARPG more than it is a 3rd person action adventure game, so the endgame is just like a Diablo game
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Is Sozasa Monji shit because of the locked strong attack damage trait or is there a trait combination that makes it viable? Like maybe quick attack up or something? Might have to just switch to atagi sadamune.
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>>170499069
strong attack, quick attack, close combat attack and skill attack are all apart of the same trait group

if you have one, you won't be able to roll any of the others

you're stuck with strong attack damage and can never get 20% close combat attack

whether that means enough to you to switch weapons is entirely up to you
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I wish Haja had a special trait such as +30 Break or something
Such a cool-looking hammer
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>>170499283
Weird that it would conflict with quick attack damage. But supposedly final attack damage is in the same damage pool and I have that on it currently.
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>>170497130
I'm at 260 or so and still playing. I just don't post as much as I did in the beginning. Currently working on setting up LW amrita farming gear for the demon king revealed mission. I can run it right now and make around 17 million without using the consumable sake or the talismans that get you amrita for every hit on enemies. All that aside I haven't made up my mind whether to farm for divine fragments to reforge the gear to maximum efficiency or just farm the + gear to get everything up to 160 +10. Going to be another investment either way.
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>>170499878
It's weird, because there are people that have gotten both Guard Ki Reduction and Mid Guard Ki reduction despite them being in the same pool. I think it's possible in some instances, and just rare.
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>>170500189
Mmm, wish there was solid info on this, reforging is so expensive, don't want to waste millions trying to get a trait I can't even get
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what's the best Kusarigama, and is it worth farming for?
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>>170500597
I think the only 'unique' one is the Iga set Kusarigama. All the others are just variances on damage, maybe one or two with a default element. Just use the strongest one you can make
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>>170500597
Sayorashi or Rasatsu
You can't farm nor smith them, they drop randomly.
2nd best would be Yasha's I think.
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>>170500597
Shiranui is the best one I think, although what >>170500683 says is true, the Iga Kusarigama is the only one that has set bonuses, but highest attack multiplier goes to the Shiranui. It normally has fire ranging from 4-12.
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>>170500847
I was more curious about attack damage since I know there are quite a few non-smithable ones. Thanks.
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>>170500847
Oh yeah, I forgot about Shiranui, my bad.
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Just kill me lads.
Spend my day burning through 800+ divine frags without a single 160. Spent only one per forge and apparently Tome wasn't pleased enough.
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>>170501016
were you forging something that used special ingredients?
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>>170501016
You did the 320 mission, r-right?
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>got a random drop of an Osafune Kanemitsu with inheritable Familiarity Damage Bonus A- on it.

should I go find somewhere to drop this fuckboys?
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>>170500597
Give me a few minutes and I'll get you a picture of the Shiranui I got earlier for my LW amrita farming build.
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>>170501137
Cleared every single mission.

>>170501067
Onikiba Kusa with Demon's Horns.

Got Hino and Onryoki's helms on first try, several -1 in demon king without trying and multiple boss sets in less than three runs so maybe my luck is running dry.
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Getting tired of this shit
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>>170501438
Wow third time I complained on the internet and third time I got something I wanted.
Now I know the secret. Fuck Tome and her wild ride. Time for some soul matching.
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>>170500597
I grabbed it only because it has the fire damage which should do more damage when Suzaku is activated. Haven't really messed with reforging it much yet. "Fastest" way to farm it is to do the Demon at Mt. Hiei or w/e mission that is called were you fight the transformed nekomata. You get a guaranteed Kusarigama quality is divine or lower though, hence the "fastest" drop at the mission results screen and if you're lucky you'll get a good Shiranui from it. Took my about an hour or so to get my drop though.
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>>170502247
I have a Shiranui from a revenant I got earlier today. I'll have to look at Sayorashi or Rasatsu just to make sure Shiranui is the highest base damage for sure though.
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if you have an effect that affects a particular stance (i.e. high attack life drain or low attack damage) does it affect skills performed in that stance as well?
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>giant slime boss @ water temple
please tell me this is optional
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>>170503680
nope, it's a story mission, git gud, light the torches.
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>>170503680
What part about umi-bozu do you find hard anon? Unless its learning to dodge its attacks lighting all 3 bonfires probably solves it
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>>170497130
At level 235 senpai.
Between upcoming dlc, nier 2 arriving, civ 6, xcom2 and persona 5... I'm not even sure how to even begin managing these games. Like I can do one by one or half that and half other but it's just too much.

Sorry for letting you down.
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is there any chance of the pre-order stuff becoming available later? I got the digital deluxe edition so I get the Sanada gear but not the Nioh Incarnate gear
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>>170493254
>Tfw this is the true level 200+ experience
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>the armor of a huge faggot like Hideaki is one of the best in the game
>the armor of Shima fucking Sakon buffs the shittiest skill in the game
REEEE
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>>170504032
>What part about umi-bozu do you find hard anon?
it was just the start phase with the 3 adds and the boss shooting at me

as soon as I managed to take the 3 fuckers down I got him to 2nd phase instantly
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WHO READY FOR MASAMUNE DATE IN THE DLC

>>170505573
light all the fires and the adds don't show up you BAKA

>>170502945
No, skills have their own seperate shit
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is axe and heavy armor easy mode? i haven't even struggled on a boss since hino enma. just about to do the last level on NG. I don't even have ninj/onmyo.
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>>170505573
Run around the rest of the map and light the bonfires, they instantly kill any adds that try to spawn as long as they're lit up(ie:you didn't use them to put your weapon on fire in that attempt). Theres a reason a corpse and onmyo waifu tell you about lighting the fires
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>>170505791
Same for me, it gets even more nuts with carnage.

Tried to do other weapons, felt like shit compared to using my axefu
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>>170505481
It's because gooks can't think about what the actual potential of numbers is
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>>170506045
>make game about honorabru samurai
>katana mystic arts are 'less ki when dodging lol' or 'more damage from behind like a dishonorabru faggot'

Fucking team ninja
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Any tips for Shima?
He keeps thrusting his long rod inside me without lube or a date before
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Stupid question but why does Otani have a moth theme?
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>>170506326
if you have suppa and catwalk scrolls you can completely break his AI by running straight up to him when the fight starts

he will do nothing but walk forward while you wail on him, but if he gets too far away he'll start acting normal

also this might only apply to the NG+ version since his first action is to activate living weapon but this glitch stops him from doing it until you get too far away
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Is there even a point tryingredients time wear anything but red demon it west armor while going through the main game before ng plus?

My stats have stayed stagnant at the requirements for red demon because I can't see ever needing anything else. Is getting stamina and body aND shit worth getting to 12 or 13 for the chancre at gear reqs?
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>>170506373
Moths are often representative of death. He was very sick/had Leprosy, and was very willing to die for Mitsunari since they were friends
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>>170505626
>>170505827
meh

too lazy to explore the rest of the map

as I said, as soon as I learned how to handle the adds he became easy. Took me another 5 solid attempts, but then it was quite simple desu.
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>>170506571

Just forge your own gear. Even heavy shit only requires like 5 of a stat.
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>>170506326

Honestly? Get Mizuchi then do whatever you can to knock him down, stab him and use the spirit summoning thing to send Mizuchi at him and it will stunlock him into a constant damage from Mizuchi and ground stabs. Ground stabbing, send the dragon which will knock him down then ground stab and repeat.

I just did this last night after haVing issues.
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>>170506793
also possible with Daiba Washi
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all grab attacks are 200% bullshit
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>>170506623
Huh the more you know, thanks anon. I would have thought it would have had something to do with a nickname/moniker like the Demon King or the One-eyed dragon but guess not.
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thread theme?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0ND_kxsg4
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This twilight mission rotation is so fucking good for farming money and +gear
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>>170506838
just press x
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>>170507538
or the better triangle if you have skill
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>>170507535

how so? if anything the opposite seems true
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Just finished the 2nd isle. I still don't have a decent spear. Meanwhile my onehanded sword is the highest damaging shit under the sun even though I'm going mostly skill and 0 heart.
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Do you think it's possible to do Demon King Revealed wearing Iga set and just spamming kunai?
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>>170508007
so forge a new spear
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>>170508250
all I have are the recipes I've had since the starter island. None of them are any better than the random spear I looted off a revenant.
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>>170508173
maybe if you do a perfect Unlimited Ninjutsu build but also have stuff to do living weapon at regular intervals to replenish
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>>170507756
The best and the worst can be done by only killing 1 crystal and the boss, very fast money, and Bearer of Ill tidings it's a high level mission so +gear will be higher too. Also in Bearer of Ill tidings you have a route where you have a fixed drop of 2 weapons, 1 armor and 1 accessory, plus 2 chests and 2 bosses that can drop sick loot
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Just got the ps4pro today

I want to play in 4K but I don't think I can switch to 30 fps :3

Regardless the game still looks much nicer in 60 fps mode
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>>170508606
4k is meme as fuck

I'd rather play 720p in 144fps than 4k in 60
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>>170508693
I honest to God don't notice a difference past 60 fps
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>>170508851
you need a screen that's actually capable of going beyond 60 fps or you're not gonna notice anything
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>>170508851
the difference between 60 and lets say 144 is like day and night if you have a monitor which is capable of 144hz
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>>170509238
>>170509171
I knew it would happen eventually. The day when 60 FPS is "too shit for my perfect eyes" for gamers. Years from now people will be bitching that things aren't playing at 600 fps
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>>170509342
k.
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>>170509342
I'm not saying it's too shit, but as I said, if I have the choice between resolution and fps I'm gonna choose fps
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>>170509342
anything beyond 60fps is still just a meme
cost ratio is too for for an inconsequential gain in appearance and performance
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Is attack the best inheritable to put on my armor? Found a bunch of gauntlets from revenants with +attack, enough to put it on all my armor
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>>170509514
I'd argue the same about 4k
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>>170509651
wasn't defending 4k either, though 4k is at least a more substantial difference in quality. but most games hardly benefit from 4k still
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How can I get lots of divine drops from Two Kings? I only get lots of blue shit
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>>170510682
Use ochoko cups before the mission? Only thing I can think of other than popping some luck talismans and having high as fuck luck. I'll have around 225 luck when I go through there and get one or two greens, a splash of purples and one or two blues sprinkled in the mix.

Trying to build a set to farm Demon King Revealed. Other than the obvious damage boost for the kusarigama, what other stats should I look for in the armors? Any help is appreciated.
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>>170511141
Fuck, forgot my shitty photoshop image.
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Mr Skeltals level is hard
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>>170511240
>Amrita Earned
Oh you poor fool..
Amrita Earned from Yokai is way better for farming Demon King since you can get up to 8% per piece, for a total of 40% increase
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I am disappointed at how much damage the fall does. This is only on Way of the Samurai too.
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>>170511881
What the fuck lmao
Shame about the damage, but jesus fuck that webm was hilarious
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>>170511957
It's pretty fun, but I need to practice more. This guy is way better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6-lQ6eJ1Rk
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>>170511839
I'll keep an eye out for any inheritable yokai earned, thanks for the tip.
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>>170486453
I disagree. Durability was fine. It actually encouraged me to change weapons or use wet stones. Now I just use the same weapon for hours. It's not like the weapons were unusable at zero anyway. Keeping them and maxed durability was basically just like sharpening weapons in monster hunter.
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For 3kat do I just pump heart and skill after I get 10ish or 20ish in important stats?

When do I unlock the missions that require 20 dex and 20 magic?
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Anyone know why all 6 regions on way of the strong have exclamation marks next to them on the world map? I've done every mission including dojo missions, only thing I haven't completed are all the twilight missions.
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Wow, just got platinum just by playing through the game thoroughly, first platinum ever. Wasn't expecting that, nicely played team ninja.
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>>170513254
lies, you didnt circled weapons that much during game,
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>>170513691
Not that Anon but I took NG extremely slow before rushing the last three regions. I spent many days just doing coop and got kusa, 2kat and katana to max before hitting NG+.
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>>170513691
I just used the weapons for like one NG+ mission each to get 500k proficiency for the dojo missions, I go pure 1kat, no magic no ninjutsu
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Where do people farm + weapons? I've finished pretty much everything, I just have to forge a 160 and turn my current 150+8 into 160+10. Nobu/No and Nioh's quests seem to drop a lot of armor so aren't that reliable.
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>tfw no title granted for purifying yokai realms
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>>170514238
Two Kings w/ high luck and Sword Blessing from Kodama

They usually drop 4+/5+ weapons
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>>170480269
I just farmed two kings and scrapped everything under +5 because fuck that.
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>>170514569
That's like wanting a title for being able to dash. Literally why.
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>>170516420
That shit is so retarded, lol. It's even slower than killing them normally, and it just looks silly so there isn't even the style factor to support it.
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Post your:
>game time
>deaths

130 hours
221
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>>170516537
if you want a game with 0 mechanics to try out go back to /dsg/ you faggot

it doesn't matter how fast something dies, fucking around with game mechanics that go entirely overlooked by most people is fun
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>>170518471
Only when they have efficient and practical applications.
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>>170518689
why would a video game need to be efficient and practical?
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>>170516537
Fucking garbage taste, as always.
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>Fight revenants in release week in the first few missions
>90% Crimson armour set

>Fight revenants in the first few missions now
>90% Nioh Gold
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Hi /ng/ ! I'm playing through Nioh for the first time, and it's really fun so far, but I must say that the leveling system intimidates me a bit.
I wanna do a Kusarigama ninja build, so what are must have skills on this weapon and ninjitsu arts ?
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>>170518717
Because that is where true beauty lies
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>>170516420
Rad
Didnt know you could do that

>>170518465
>game time
195 hours
>deaths
326 JUST

>>170518994
Don't be, you can just respec later on. So feel free to experiment a bit if you want

>>170519131
Smh desu f a m
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>>170519384
>you can just respec later on
Ah nice
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>>170519384
>>170518465
Death count shouldn't be an issue if they countered in deaths from coop which can be ridiculous.
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How the FUCK do I beat her?
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>>170518994
Ninjitsu is shit desu, magic is much better. Quick change and tiger running are the only useful scrolls. Sneak attack and reduced ki + increased running speed are all i got. Medusa powder is good for easy stagger/final blows, i never tried paralysis shurikens but id go for those if you wanted to use shurikens.
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>>170519740
Ah true
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>>170519901
Use low stance and dodge her shit
Bring Antiparalytic Needles in case you do get paralyzed
Learn her moveset, basically
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>>170519740
>dying in co-op
>ever
Embarrassing.
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>>170519901
Dodge a combo(swipes or umbrella) then hit once or twice
Dodge anything aerial, block the fast spin2win
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>>170518465
In my defense I was complete shit before /ng/ gave me advice.
Main deaths came from the first two regions and some chunk from Elsa.
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If I wear 4 pieces of light armor like iga with one medium piece will I be able to reach the 200 toughness breakpoint?
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>>170520083
>>170520180
I can't fucking do it. 5 hours and I still can't fucking beat this fucking boss.
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>>170520681
I doubt it, not even if every armor piece had +toughness and you had +20 toughness from titles.

t. 4 medium armor with + kodama bowl with + toughness and 10 toughness from titles with 202 toughness.
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Wait, wtf
Im not a native English speaker, but isn't "Poision" wrong? Shouldn't it be "Poison"?
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>finding that last Kodama on Sekigahara

Holy fuck this was fucking frustrating. It's like using a metal detector to find treasures at the beach
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>>170521773
Giant Toad, pronounced "Giant Toad"
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>>170519901
Goddamn she was hard back in the demo.
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>>170521773
Hanzo translated the game fyi
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>>170521808
Samawaya Castle is ten times worse
Fuck that shit
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>>170521830
>>170521875
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So....
Were'nt we supposed to watch a movie? lol
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I just reached Sekigahara.

How many hours do I have left if I'm mainlining the story missions?
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>mfw trying to get an element with +22
kill me
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>helping noobs with the obsidian samurai level
>get to the spiral staircase
>you already know what comes next
Every damn time. Even when i try to emote them to stay they go to kill the fire bombers and get squished.
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I want Danjo skin
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How the fuck am I supposed to beat Benkei and the fucking raven tengu?
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>Do random co-op
>Host checks EVERYTHING he picks up
Cmon man, do that after completion dude, i'm not one for sitting around for 30 seconds after every encounter/loot pile
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>>170520723
Focus on stamina damage.
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>>170524361
Just kill the tengu first.
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>>170524519
Should have ran around using horn.
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>decide to farm ogress mask
>get smithing text first drop
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Whats the fastest way to grind familliarity to 500000 for the dojo missions?

currently doing A Request from Ginichyo, where I kill all revenants I can find and then rush to the quest objective. But surely theres EZ mode way to farm it all.
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>>170523757
When I did it I had a lot of success sniping the dwellers as we go up, whistling a lot in the alcove and then doing the arms spread wide in front off them.
Whistling whenever you want their attention for something good like a Kodama is a great way to train them to pay attention to you and your emotes.
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>>170520723
no idea if you're still around, but I beat her with spear

I was waiting in low stance, dodging her shit and whenever she did one of her combos I would dash in, swap to high stance and do a 2 hit combo before doing ki recovery and backing out again

rinse repeat

make sure you guard when she is in the air cause she might do dagger throw
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>Sub-mission; The Ogress
>Target isnt an Ogress but a flying Bolt
Nani?
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>>170528974
I wonder too, but I assume it's meant to be a sly bait and switch for people who played the LCT.
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>Finally got platinum trophy
>Because the last thing I had to do was get an Orochi Scale, the plat picture looks really nice with the dawn on the beach
This tickles my autism in a good way
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>bought Nioh online on a whim at 2am at night
>can't play games you bought online when the system needs an update cause you need to be logged in to verify
whelp

last game I bought in playstation store, ever
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female skins in the next update
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>>170530523
I don't quite get it, you're saying that you can't play while offline or you can't play beause you're on old PS4 software?
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>>170531824
>can't play beause you're on old PS4 software
this

with disk based games I could play while downloading the upgrade, but with ps store games I can't play the game while downloading the update because I need to be logged into first to verify I actually own the game, but I can't log in because I have to upgrade first

not the end of the world, but enough of a drawback for me to not use the store anymore
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>>170532765
But you don't need to? I can play the game offline just fine
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>>170532765
So why dont you upgrade and then log in to verify?
Is it that much of a hassle to you?
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Is demons daughter runs the faster gold farming method?
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Thoughts on the Legendary Mikawa Warrior set bonus? I dig the whole traditional medium-armor and 1kat style and I've found it's good for people who don't actively use living weapon that much.

On another note, where in the hell do I go for writhing tongues? I can't trade glory for them and no mission offers them as an end reward. Do I have to grind Onyudo? Where's the best spot?
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>>170533435
>I've found it's good for people who don't actively use living weapon that much.
u wot m8, thats exactly what its for

Kingos is the best for 1kat.
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>>170533435
There's a twilight version of the mission where you have to kill three Onyudo that gives you 5 writhing tounges, at least for the first completion. Can't remember what they give you the rest of the time.
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What's the highest percent Killing Strike Damage you can get on weapon?

I've been reforging and I'm only seeing 18.8%.
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>>170533435
You can also kill Giant Toad for those.
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>>170533358
If you're wanting just straight up gold then yes, otherwise I'd say the dual with shiggy and elk man would net you about 10k-20k less, but drop some gear that can be sold including possible divines.
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>>170532884
dunno, didn't work for me, always prompted me to log into my PSN account first

>>170533025
because I had to patch first. With discs I can play while downloading the patch. As it was now I couldn't.
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>agility damage bonus A
u wot m8?
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I really hope they introduce a way to reforge accessories in the DLC, I'm sick of this bath house.
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>>170527032
use the weapon you need to grind up? idk lol
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>>170527032
big skellington boss
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Guys How in the fuck do I get A+ dex or anything?
I have been reforging for ever and all I am getting is B-and yes I am using divine fragments
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>>170536814
use more divine fragements maybe? idk lol
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>>170520117
>He doesn't just jump into the sea whenever summoned to Umi-chan

Enjoy those five minutes of your life you're never getting back.
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There's a kodama in mt monks and ascetics standing right next to a shrine and yet he still can't find it. Are some kodama retarded?
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>>170536814
Go to Isle of Demons
Farm revs, tons of them have CtA
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>>170497130

I quit playing once I reached the second landmass, I just like having people to talk to
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Just got a blue lightning omamori charm that has +50 luck. Didn't even know that was possible.
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>>170536814
I have a kusari with inheritable A+ dex if you're after one.
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>>170505827
>they instantly kill any adds that try to spawn as long as they're lit
Holy shit. I did not know this. I thought the items that spewed out of Umi's mouth at the start of the fight was just him accidentally killing his own adds through collision.
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>Need inheritable +28% bare hand damage for build
>Seems to be impossible to get
>Only one glove set out of my hundreds even has it and it's not even inheritable
What the fuck do I do guys? I really want to make this build work.
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>>170538361
Yo I need it please drop for me I could really use it. Drop rev by isle of demons?
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Which Kodama blessing do I need active to get Smithing Texts? Do they count as materials or do I have to go with the type of boon the text would actually build?

I'm having some weird ass luck.
>semi-speedruning to get full bird-man set
>dojo ninja adept kill to get it out of the way drops Kusarigama text
>not using kusarigamas
>dojo ninja veteran kill to get it out of the way drops Katana text
>not using katanas
>fucking speedrunning birdman side-mission and no text has dropped in forty kills
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>>170538203
I have a fan with that. I literally never take it off.

>>170538556
No problem guy, look for the grave near the shrine. Only wearing a helmet and the kusari, spiderbro spirit.
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>>170538203
Nice. I'm still hunting for a +50 accessory with +100 luck using living weapon, so far the best i got was +25 +89 using lw.
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>>170539147
Holy fuck thank you for the helmet as well
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>>170539576
You got both of them? Glad to help. Put that CtA to good use, m8.
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>>170538902
Materials
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>>170539984
Thanks.
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>>170539147
Thanks for the fox helm and kasurigama anon. Glad I decided to check out isle of demon on a whim just now.
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>>170540394

>isle of demons

So is this the designated trading mission? I just farmed for divine chunks and got the rest of the Master Swordsman's set I was after. Thanks for that, whoever that was.
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Why didn't I fucking learn how to use Backwave/Tempest sooner? Even in NG+, human enemies and solo duel bosses are a joke now.
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>>170519901
if you cant doge the blasts, get all the anti paralysis shit you can gear wise. take needles, resistance talisman, shinjuku medicine if you really need it. what gear/weapons are you using? i found that blocking helped a lot when i fight her.
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>>170540583
Depends on the person I guess. I've seen people drop on ginchiyo mission, the second bridge mission, and this one. I'm just farming divines so I can start reforging stats onto my amrita farming set .
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>>170521949
i never want to go back there.
>>170523112
main story...i think around 5-6 missions. i've been doing all the side quests though so i might be way off.
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Is there a version of the veteran armor that doesn't look like it was dragged out of a burning wreck?
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>Revenant: burned to death
>Summoned revenant slowly backpedals into flames and dies
>>
>spider castle
NOPE

NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE
see you guys next game
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>>170541552

>NPC Revenant names in general

aaargh and I_Died_Here are my fav
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>>170541590
i thought the same thing. they aren't scary at all once you learn how to fight them. you can do it annon. face your fears.
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>>170541651
I was quite impressed by Dr. Smith, who drowned in a puddle with no deep water to drown in anywhere nearby.
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>>170541651
The ones with "The Ladder Performer" in their name and death by falling are my favorites. I laugh everytime.
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If ANYONE has
>23% bare hand damage/33% at max familiarity
inheritable gloves please let me know I just need to find one person and i can grind their rev. over and over I really want to get this bare fist build off the ground.
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What is the most fashionable set in the game?
Obsidian set with the mark of the conquers helm is pretty damn good too.
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>>170542034
I found one of him about a tiny shallow (like ankle deep) pond. All the memories around the place were pretty grim so I had assumed he suicided in it.

I'm sure he exists in the fire level too, though. Hooray random.
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>>170542504
Youngblood is pure glamorai.
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>>170542504
>>170542997
this
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>>170542997

Frontline warrior set with Yatagarasu headband. It just clicks with me
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>>170542504
Demon kings/Gold armor.
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If you go for a Kurisagama built you're kind of forced into going Ninjutsu at the same time, right?
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>>170542504

Heike so I can be struck by lightning and/or tune into the radio
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Does anyone know how to get each of the "Five greatest swords"? They look super neat, I'd love to have a full set.
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>>170543569
Well it depends when you want to stop leveling. But yes Dex gives the better boost to Kusa.
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>>170543569
Why do you say forced? you don't have to use ninjustu but you get it anyway. It's pretty good for a fire build due to the passive ninjutsu gives. It's objectively the best weapon for a living weapon build.
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Friendly reminder that Kato is the most powerful guardian.
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>>170544267
He is usually but but for 2 kings the blue dragon is actually a bit better due to his ability to knock them down instantly
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Wow a Damage from Fall build is pretty OP.
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>>170544267
more powerful than paired raiken+warrior of the west set?

why is he the most powerful
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>>170542504
No set is truly great without mixing and matching.
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>3 regions in
>Realize i dont have the tower of london helm, forgot to farm for that
Please tell me i get to go back and have another shot at that thing later on
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>>170544707
>skill dmg
>close combat dmg
>ki
>ki reduction
>ki regeneration
>need fuck all spirit for full skills
Literally OP.
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>>170545028
if nioh was a sandwich, the tower of London would be the bread
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>>170545028
nope, gotta start a brand new game.
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>>170544262
>It's objectively the best weapon for a living weapon build.
wat
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>>170545028

Why not ask someone to die whilst wearing one?
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>>170545028
sadly this >>170545187

shame too cuz its such a nice hat
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>>170541983
great, now I have to replay it because I ended up running into the boss chamber by accident and I ended up missing the last fragment piece
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>tfw play like shit now because I've become too comfortable with Suzaku
>dying to random way of warrior mobs in co-op with other guardians equipped
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>>170491074
Kagemusha is a masterpiece, anon
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>>170545479
did you miss the spider that's on top of the tower?
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>>170546372
not him but what tower? i never could find the last piece.
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>>170546372
next to the final castle, piece #6
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>>170546545
Fragment #4: After leaving the cave with the ladder past Fragment #3, continue up the into the arena where you’ll fight multiple ghostly (and colorful) enemies. After you defeat them, look up at the tower next to the entrance gate. There’s a glowing orange spiderweb up there. Shoot it with an arrow!
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Is there anything more fun than spearfall combo-ing humanoidd
>>
Fucking game. Let me tell her a story from beyond the seas! Let me tell her what sort of swords there are in my land! Fuck!
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>>170545357
The blade spin move is unpunishable and can be spammed for easy wins. No other weapon really keeps up in living weapon mode. It basically is free I frames check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5rfW7wosXg
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>mfw I finally meet another C agility revenant with an axe
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>>170547638
They're so rare, it's always a treat for my own Axe build
>>
Are the hold Triangle abilities for 1kat and Spear considered Skills for the purposes of +Skill Damage, Skill Break, Skill Ki Reduction, Skill Ki Damage?
>>
>>170547638
>>170548029
Axe fights are the best, I love using them and killing people who have them
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>>170548701
Yeah they are
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>>170549075
cool
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Can I swap spirit guardians in between boss fight attempts without losing my amrita?
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>>170550596
I assume you mean if you dropped your grave somewhere. No, you need your spirit back. You can use a summoner'a candle to avoid risk.
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Anybody got an inherent or inheritable A skill/dex Shiranui they could be so kind as to drop?
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So if you get nue to hit the bell in his arena it stuns him for a few seconds.

sry for the shitty webm. ill try to get a better one soon
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How big is the Easy Target effect on some helmets?
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>>170551076
I've got a kusari with A dex on it, if you can get hold of a shiranui with an inheritable slot.
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>>170551598
I just so happen to have one. Could you drop it somewhere other than first mission so it doesn't get rotated out as fast in case my luck is shitty.
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>>170551094
That's really cool, thanks for sharing anon!
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>kill spider lady first try
>snow lady pushes my shit in
such is the life
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>>170551738
I'm in the middle of NG+ Yuki-Onna right now, but I'll help you out as soon as I'm done. I'll keep you posted, I shouldn't be too much longer.
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Inheritable CTA Heart [A] Mikazuki Munechika @ Demon's Daughter mission in 5th region right by the shrine if anybody wants it.
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>>170552265
Oops, scratch the CTA, forgot i put it there.
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How do you capitalize on Yuki Onna having no stamina?

She doesn't give a fuck and just keeps attacking, eventually refilling herself to 100% in one go
>>
>>170551094

I always just fight him under that overhang you start out under, so he can't hit you with any lightning and you can just go to town on him while he tries.
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>>170551738
Alright m8 look for a grave in NG+ Request from Ginichyo right by the shrine, helmet and kusari only with spiderbro spirit.
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>>170552936
Low stance because she'll get stunned by any attack with no ki, then just easily dodge away.
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>>170551738
>>170553716
Actually look by the wooden posts by the two sentinels at the start. This mission is a lot harder to die where you like because of stupid Ginichyo insisting on being helpful.
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>>170554217
Using Harakiri sword drops a revenant i believe.
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>>170554217
Did you die somewhere else? Not seeing it.
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>>170555364
Let me try again. I'll harakiri in front of the shrine itself.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuq-Jpf92o

Post the good shit.

What're your hopes for DLC weapons? I'm hoping they add Nodachis
>>
>Game at least in part features Nobunaga & Co
Koei Tecmo really have a hard on for this guy
>>
>>170555440
I fought your old one but got no drop and now i can't see your new one (assuming you have). Maybe Harakiri doesn't work anymore.
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>>170556226
i kind of want something that scales with magic but they have a lot of options. kanabo would be awesome though.
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>>170556249
How can you do a sengoku era game with no Oda? He is by far the most famous that's like doing a romance of 3 kingdom game with no CaoCao
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>>170556226
I think ninja blowguns would be cool or some kind of fist weapon or claw. The coolest thing would be nagamaki but that's just another sword.
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>>170556612
Right, I'll try again and I'll get myself killed by the yoki behind the first building. Hopefully that does the trick.
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>>170556226
Dual guns that Saikas men use.
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are the nioh and oda/wife fights something i can skip on ng? really don't think i will stand a chance against them currently
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>>170556918
Thanks senpai.
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>>170556663
>kanabo
Oh yeah that. Would be nice to get some more traditional oni with them as well.
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>>170556226

Onmyo magic powered shakuhachi that stops an enemy from attacking you until you attack them.

Komuso and Karate as well.
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>>170542313
If you're still here, I have inheritable 24.9% bare-handed damage muneshiggy gloves, where do you want me to drop the revenant?
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>>170557148
Any luck?
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>>170557476
Not seeing it yet, it takes 5 mins to load in though.
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>>170556226
I want my own familiars desu

Also a fist skill tree and pistols.
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>>170558079
Fist skill tree would be amazing.
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It feels so weird now that the game is telling me that I can't pick any more elixir.
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If anybody was interested, Nobunaga says this upon defeat if you kill Yuki-onna first: "That was fun... There may be hope for this modern world yet."
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>>170557476
Still nothing. Fuck it I'll just reforge it, thanks anyway.
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>>170558602

That sounds obnoxious. Why wouldn't they just automatically convert each one into like 10 gold or something
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>>170558746
Sorry man. If you're still around in a couple of hours and haven't had any luck, I'm willing to try again with Isle of Demons. It seems to work there every time I've tried it before.
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>>170558763
Now that would be nice.
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>>170558946
I just checked my inventory and i actually have the kusa lol. I'm sure I didn't get it from your rev though..
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is a final blow with spear considered thrust damage?
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Where do you buy special ammunition? Is it just something you have to luck into in the "special finds" area of the shop?
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>>170559383
How odd.
If it's an onikiba kusarigama with an A- enemies defeated bonus in the first slot and CtA dex in the last, there's a good chance you did find my revenant after all. Oh well, at least it paid off for you somehow.
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>>170557082
well i beat the nioh, any tips for oda/wife? i don't want to be a sloth shitter.
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>>170559817
Yeah nah it was a different one, must have been from another rev i was fighting while hunting you.
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>>170560505
Go for Oda first, use Carnage+Weakness and use the 1kat mystic art that increases damage from behind if you have it. Keep Yuki in sight at all times so she doesn't blindside you.

It'll take some practice, but once you get rid of Oda just get rid of Yuki the normal way.
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What's better; Familiarity Damage Bonus A+ or Close Combat Damage +20%?
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I followed some guy's advice to forge Raikiri with 10 frags and just got 160 level on my 7th try. I suggest to try.
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Anyone got the webm of the guy dodging the strikes really fast then beheading the oni?
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kinda disappointed with guardian spirits in general

I mean, I'm not expecting FF tier summons, but as it is now it's more like pick your favourite colour, they all do the same shit anyways

the passives are different, but that's about it
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>>170564004

Should suit you just fine
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>>170560683
thanks. i'll grab carnage and give it a shot
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I have 10 body and 24 skill

I'm wearing a spear that scales with

Body B+
Strength C
Skill C


Putting one point in body ups my damage from 401 to 402
Putting one point in skill ups my damage from 401 to 403

?
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>>170564004
except with guardian talismans some of the attacks are amazing
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>>170564290
Each level gives various amounts. Don't let it fool you. 30 points in body will still do more than 30 in skill. Mine ranges from +1-2 to +8 each time with CtA Body A
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>>170564290
it doesn't include decimals in the display number

body scales better, but to get a better picture you need to look at the increase over ~5 levels instead of just 1
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>>170564290
Body improves spears better than any other stat.

What you're seeing there is Nioh's weird scaling system where the boost diminishes over a few levels before rising again. You'll get more for investing in Body with a spear than any other stat despite what you think you're seeing.
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What pisses me off that most NPC bosses you duel go into auto block after the first hit making any kind of combos basically impossible and reducing the gameplay to poke & dodge
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Is it possible to get skill damage (critical) on weapons? I haven't seen it yet.
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Spirit stones are just for Amrita and never for crafting, right?
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>>170565568
Same, revenants too. It's annoying as hell.
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>>170566550

They boost your living weapon gauge and keep it active. It'll reach a point where you don't pop them for the amrita alone.
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https://youtu.be/e84NRPubEBY?t=5m14s

Naomasa u cheeky cunt
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Is skill damage or close combat damage (critical) better for critical kusa build?
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>>170567179
Holy shit, I knew the characters were based on real life people, but I didn't realize that the armor was too. Even the fucking awning kabuto was real.
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>>170567227
CCD(C)
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>>170568824

Literally everything is real. Even the magic.
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>>170567179
Is there somewhere I can go to learn about all of this Japanese history? It seems interesting as fuck but I have no idea where to begin looking.
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Best 1kat sets?
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>>170570005
depends on playstyle. I see a lot of people run a blend of Kingo and Warrior of the West though
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How does the Kusarigama fare up close?

I'm not very satisfied with 2kat as my offweapon to spears.
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>>170570572
it's an amazing dps weapon because it attacks so quick

put water on it and flux between high stance and low stance combos
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>>170569197
The best place to start would be checking out the Samurai Warriors games. They dramatize characters and events, but they're really good for familiarizing yourself with at least the Sengoku Jidai. The Nobunaga's Ambition games are a bit less accessible, being sort of grand strategy games, but playing the historical mode will give a very complete view of the Sengoku Jidai.

As for books, there's a lot of general histories of Japan, but unfortunately I don't think there's any great period specific works in English, at least ones that cover pre-1867 events. I'd suggest George Sansom's A History of Japan, which is three volumes long and covers the entirety of Japan up to 1867. If you'd prefer to skip getting any books I'd say go read wikipedia, as it is for the most part solid.
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>>170570695
I'm mostly looking for something to service me when there's not enough room to let my spear swing
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>>170570886
axe or katana
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>>170570886
kusari is good at close and mid range and scales C skill so it goes well with a spear
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>>170570886
I'd go for 1kat if that's the case. Kusarigama is your worst choice after spear for close quarters but that doesn't mean it's bad if you like it. quick attack combos on high and low stance would be your go-to with high stance triangle for pokes
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>>170571154

also Blade Spin is strong as fuck, easily the strongest thing in the weapon's arsenal
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>>170570806
Alright, i'll take a look into those, thanks.
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do Twilight missions have better divine drop rates than normal ones?
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rip threads. general's dead af
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Are axes good? What's a good axe build?
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Why is Nobunaga's armor set bonus so subpar? And it's pretty heavy too. Why the fuck does Kingo's faggot armor get the best set bonuses for 1kat? Sword of meditation speed up? Who gives a fuck? +10 attack/defense? WOW SO USEFUL! Enemies defeated damage bonus? Holy fuck dude gg easy game easy life! Amrita earned on strong attack is the only thing worth a fuck because of tengen kujaku. But you can easily have 6 extraction talismans with buff duration and a good amount of unlimited onmyo chance. I want to try it just for the Amrita buffs being constantly applied without extraction but Jesus at what cost?
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Power pill vs Carnage Talisman

Which is the better attack buff?
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Is this game still worth 60 bucks? Seems like the hype has died down and no one is talking about this anymore.
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>>170573765
I'm still here lol
Just busy savescumming and trying to get +22 fire on my kusa

I'm also theorycrafting a bow build


If anyone wants to jolly coop, then let me know
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>>170573825
Axes are great. I personally stacked tatenashi 5 piece bonus and obsidian 4 piece bonus (-1 set requirements needed) for really good defense and strong offense too. Use intensity and rage and press triangle. Can't fuck it up.
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>>170574523
If you like Koei Tecmo games, a definite yes
If you like Souls games and still aren't fed up with them I'd say yes still

otherwise maybe wait on a sale
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>>170574486
Carnage, no doubt.
Power pill grants you a slight increase in damage, while Carnage gives you a huge boost, but the drawback is that you take more damage if you get hit.
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>>170574523
There was little hype to begin with. It wasn't a big AAA release.

If you like diablo, ninja gaiden and souls, you might like this.
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>>170574523
Everyone is playing Zelda now but activity will pick back up soon. Free DLC at the end of this month and next month PVP.
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>>170574552
>+22 fire on a Kusarigama

what Kusarigama are you trying to do this with? isn't Shiranui the best and uncraftable?
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>>170574523
It is.
Im having a fucking blast, with over 200 hours now
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man, living weapons do trivialize bosses a lot
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>>170574523
It's definitely worth the money in my opinion.

Zelda and Nier both released recently, and that's taking a lot of the attention, not to mention that Nioh's a PS4 exclusive and not exactly a game with popular appeal.
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>>170574739
Yasha's. My Yasha is pretty fucking good, if I say so myself, but I need the +22 (+21 works too I guess but I want +22 because autism) for sick synergy with Ogress Mask, Kato and my Cannon which gives +25% increased Fire dmg
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>>170544267
Friendly reminder to fuck off if you don't use tengen kujaku.
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>pure ninjutsu build in way of the strong
>summon people to do co op
>while I take forever to kill 1 yokai spamming poison, fire and shurikens my co op partner just spins with his axe and clears half the level in a second
>next level summon another guy
>he iais everything into oblivion while I stay on the back spamming projectiles doing jack shit

700 ninjutsu power with weakness talisman and I feel like it isnt worth it. Time to respec.
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>>170574486
Carnage has more raw power at the cost of defense, and if I had to choose one, I'd choose it. That said, you should really consider having both. Especially for stuff like LW runs, power pills are more useful for normal mobs that warrant an attack boost, but don't warrant a Carnage Talisman. Stuff like Tengu or maybe Ninja Yoki where you know they can cause problems if left alive, but you want to save those carnages for bosses.
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>>170574901
Sounds good. I have only +17 at max senpai on my Shiranui but getting better ones is so hard
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>>170575067
Specialist builds are pointless. Ninjitsu and onmyo are supplementary.
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>>170575434
By the way, if you didn't know Shiranui has fixed fire damage on it (「4 - 12」) so you can't get higher than 17 with max familiarity.
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>>170575757
I knew fire was fixed, didn't know the actual amount was fixed, thanks.

I guess short of getting Familiarity Bonus or Close Combat damage, this is perfect then.
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>>170575067
Same.

I respecced and spend all my ninja points mainly on increased bow/matchlock/cannon ammo and damage and passive bonuses
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>>170575823
Fixed elemental weapons: 「 4 - 12 」/ 「 9 - 17 」
Regular weapons: 「 9 - 17 」/ 「 14 - 22 」
Even though getting +17 is extremely rare, its possible. my 2kat has it

Would you mind posting your kusa? Im kinda curious now to see what other people in this general are rocking
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>>170576245
I take it that's before familiarity bonus taken to account?
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>finally finish critical kusa build (with only a 150+8)
>carrying 500's through DKR ez
Shit is way too op. I bet it gets nerfed next patch.
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>>170576436
Yes. Familiarity adds +5 flat to the value.
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>>170576245
it's nothing special yet, still need to reforge some stuff, but I put a CtA Dex A- on it. I don't know how stat ranges work exactly as far as cutoff, but it has both skill break and skill ki damage, gonna try to get either 20% CC Damage or possibly a critical CC Damage. also considering trying for Skill Ki reduction so I can use it outside of LW builds (for instance, using Tengen Kujaku instead of Kato/Suzaku.)
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>>170576245
Do you know what kusa's can get +17?
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>want to roleplay as Nobunaga
>cant get any of his sick looking attacks

:\
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>>170575906
>ninja points mainly on increased bow/matchlock/cannon ammo and damage and passive bonuses
no poison weapon enchant?
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>>170576775
like he said, anything that doesn't have it as a fixed roll. So you'd probably want to try a Sayorashi if you can get one to drop
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>>170576723
>it has both skill break and skill ki damage
fuck you, i did $1 million reforges 5x in a row and couldn't get that shit
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>>170576875
poison is a shit status, it caps at 999 and almost everything resists it hard

>>170576905
I've been doing more than that. I need to farm up more divine fragments and money but fuck me that's a chore.
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>>170574901
Post stats desu.
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Whats the strongest 1kat?
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>>170577074
>poison is a shit status, it caps at 999 and almost everything resists it hard
shame
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>>170577301
Sohaya Tsurugi is the strongest craftable in terms of raw damage I think, but it's a fixed Earth sword from a crappy set. Sozasa Monji is similar, in that it has a fixed Strong Attack Damage which conflicts with any other damage bonus so you can't reforge it. Most folks tend to rock Nami-oyogi Kanemitsu in my experience.
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>>170577110
Now, if I only could swap out the +21 Lightning with +22 Fire...
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>>170577938
bro you're missing a slot, aren't you?
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>>170578120
It caps at 6, without a set bonus, so no.
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>>170578120
It's the set bonus slot.
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>>170576245
I don't know how accurate this is, I have a fixed elemental weapon with 21 wind damage at 999 familiarity
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>>170578205
my Shiranui has full slots, unless it's the fixed Fire that fills the empty
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>>170577938
>tfw pre-order bonus set is the most OP
Think you could drop that sexy Sanada set somewhere?
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>>170578332
Now that you mention it, I think Ive seen axes with +20/+21 fixed
Thank you for correcting me. I think the fixed elementals vary from weapon to weapon, but the familiarity bonus value reamins the same (+5).
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>>170578603
Isle of Demons NG+
I'm lvl 388 and have Misuzchi as Spirit Guardian. Drowned at the start.
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>>170578603
>>170579006
does Sanada even drop?
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>>170575067

I was thinking of stacking ranged attack and fire bonuses from bombs. Ogress mask, a couple accessories and a good hand cannon should get you some pretty high +fire damage. I also wonder how well the ranged attack bonuses help kunai, with the yategarasus heal on ranged hit you'd be a self healing machine.

Besides, where is the fun in using nothing but one move? Damage on poisoned / paralyzed enemies can get pretty high. Its not like anything in game calls for a 100% optimized build anyway.
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>>170579006
>>170579093
Nope, just got foot soldiers armor from killing him lol.
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>>170579006
Thorsblerblah or whatever? Blue spear?

I always wondered why so many players in NG+ were wearing footsoldier armor. Now I know it's because they're wearing shit I'm not allowed.
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>>170579483
yep, just saw it myself while farming, lol.
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>>170579607
yeah, they probably all had Nioh Incarnate gear on
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>>170577938
was there any particular thing you did to make soul matching easier? like a steady rate of high level divine kusarigama?
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>>170580540
What do you mean?
I only farmed Two Kings and hoped they would drop weapons because they're usually +4/+5, making the grind way less tedious.
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>>170580729
I was hoping there was a reliable drop for Kusarigama to make soul matching lest costly
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>>170580540
>>170580729
I also posted this >>170480269 , letting you guys know how much you need to forge a (+10).
When I was farming Two Kings I used Daiba Washi because +30% Equipment Drop Rate and +60 Luck (I think I had a total of 250+ Luck), Swordsman Blessing from Kodama (as well as Kodama Bowl), and a Fan which gave me Human Equipment Drop Rate +20% and Equipment Drop Rate +5%
They usually dropped at least one weapon each time I defeated them.

>>170580807
Oh. Not as far as I know, but I generally had no trouble with money when I was forging since I sold everything I got except the +4/+5 weapons.
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sheeeeit, just did another reforge run on my Shiranui, I think I can finally take it on the road to 160+10

>>170581158
shit, guess I have to do this the slightly more expensive way.
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>>170581357
does the A+ on dexterity work like an extra multiplier or does it just simply bump the natural B+ mod up a notch?
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>>170581535
far as I know, it's an extra multiplier separate from any innate stats
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Is it just me or is +attack incredibly hard to reforge on armor? I always have to settle for damage from behind.
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>>170582329
>Is it just me or is +attack incredibly hard to reforge on armor? I always have to settle for damage from behind.
1. You can only get +Attack on gloves. So if you want +Attack on every armor piece you need to get inheritable +Attack on gloves, then inherit on to the pieces you want.
2. Damage from Behind isn't a damage booster. It means you take reduced damage from behind. Use the options button to get a rough explanation on what each special effect do.
3. Your best bet for getting inheritable +Attack gloves is to farm revenants. I suggest using the Bridge mission or Isle of Demons Ng+
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Is there a specific 1kat that's considered the "best" for forging, or is it really a matter of personal preference? I've got an Ishida Masamune and a Hoshi-Kiri Tachi that I've got at +5 and I'm worried I'm wasting my time by reforging and soul matching them.
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>>170583942
1kats are tricky because most of them are part of a set. barring stat conflicts (i.e. Strong attack damage on Sozasa Monji or water on Nami-oyogi Kanemitsu) any sword can have any stat, so it's more of a case of reforging a sword you want first and then soul matching.

no sword is really best for forging, unless you mean for 160 weapons in which case that's anything with demon horn as an ingredient.
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>>170584227
Right, that makes sense.

With 160 weapons, is it a viable strategy to forge any old demon horn weapon to 160 and just soul match your main with it? So if I matched 150 +10 Ishida Masamune and a throwaway 160 Raikiri, could I get my 160 +10 Ishida?
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>>170584536
that's literally the optimal way of doing it.

It basically goes

>Acquire weapon you want to use
>Get stats you want on it via reforging and soul matching inherits
>Get to +10 via soul matching
>forge separate 160 weapon
>soul match 160 weapon into 150+10 weapon
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>>170584691
Oh, awesome. Thanks bruh.
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>>170583081
I see, thanks for that.
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>>170574523
Easily. This is definitely GotY material up along with Yakuza 0. Very, very good Souls-style play with a lot of clever twists to set it apart.
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>>170583081
different guy, what's the max attack for gloves, anyway?
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>>170585881
Highest I've seen is 20 at base familiarity.
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>>170576841
>his set bonus kinda blows
:/
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>>170577905
The fixed strong attack damage would be good if you were using the full set and tengen for the Amrita earned on strong attack to apply buffs though. Then you would be strong, especially by dodging to the back and using strong attacks. How high does this fixed effect go?
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>>170586495
I've never seen it higher than 12 with max familiarity. It's nowhere near the 20% you could get as pure Close Combat Damage
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>>170577074
>poison is a shit status, it caps at 999 and almost everything resists it hard

just like every game ever. why do developers hate poison? like why even put it in if its just going to be garbage?
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>>170587104
Dark Souls 2 had incredibly damaging poison. Was one of the few good things about that game.
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>>170578603
wonder how soon they will nerf it.
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>>170587104
Poison or should I say Toxic in Pokemon has always been strong though
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>>170587104

>not running 40%+ CCD to poisoned enemies on your accessories

I'm probably going to adjust my stats because it's not worth going full dex for poison damage. Just apply it and get the benefits.
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>>170587203
Dark Souls 2 is still my favorite
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>>170587372
But why?
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>>170556226
something ridiculous like the logarius wheel or kos parasite from bloodborne. maybe being able to use the umbrella yokai as a weapon
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>>170587442
Dark Souls 1 has too much walking and snooze-inducing bonfire hikes even after they patched in like six more warp points on the PC release. I find playing it so incredibly boring. And as bad as 2 gets, even with fucking Iron fucking Keep, I still find it just more inviting to replay than 1 where half the levels are good and half are nothing-burgers.

3 feels like a misfire half-breed stealing all the wrong parts of BB.

That said some of Dark Souls 1's maze like levels are certainly strong but on replay you remember the routes or wikied/were told some skips.
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>>170587882
If you're only playing for the gameplay then I suppose I can understand.
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>>170588002
now hold up, different anon here

exploring is an essentially enjoyable part of gameplay for me so don't say that
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>>170588723
I know, but I've been in enough Dark Souls 2 arguments to last a lifetime and frankly I don't care anymore so I'm just conceding the point.
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>>170588002
Well, to be fair, I also think I prefer 2 in some ways for weapons, the PvP arena/covenant crap, lore (Really atmosphere. Lore is still a big ??? lol for most of the major shit but it works in 2.) and characters. And I enjoy a lot of the levels in an exploration context even on replay. The poison mill and Sinner's Rise are just cool. No way I can say they are objectively better than like the sewers under Undead Burg but I prefer them.

There's no way you can say Anor Londo exterior is anything but a giant snoozefest though, especially if O&S or the archers are giving it to you up the ass and you have to make those hikes.

That said I still think BB and Nioh are the peak of the subgenre.

>>170589431
Same but I can't stop having them it's retarded.
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>>170589593
I think that's what I like about Nioh's level design. It emphasizes exploration, and your reward for doing so is usually gear plus a shortcut to the boss. they know you'll be ramming your head against stuff especially early on so they want you to be able to just run to the boss, pick up your grave, and get back to business.
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>>170589593
>There's no way you can say Anor Londo exterior is anything but a giant snoozefest though, especially if O&S or the archers are giving it to you up the ass and you have to make those hikes.
wat?

there's plenty of shortcuts in anor londo so that the hiking is not troublesome. Neither to the archers nor after them. And the interior just looks fucking amazing. All that marble, all white, but empty, like a fucked up fairytale castle or something straight out of changeling.
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>>170589809
Nioh is really good at making sprint shortcuts to the boss. (Though the alpha's chase rules probably would have made most of those worthless.)

That said, the one thing I don't like about Nioh is that exploration doesn't feel that worthwhile. All the loot you get is leveled so you're just gonna be chunking it all into the cash/materials grinder, same as everything else. Only thing you really care about is Kodamas. In Soles, everything you find matters, except if it's like 10 coins or some faggotry like that.

>>170589992
Anor Londo interior is fine. It's just the exterior chunk that takes forever.
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>>170590103
true, but the first time you do a Nioh playthrough, you really want to get those stronger weapons and kodama spirits and locks. I can see the dislike of later when most of what you grab is garbage but even then it's money and materials for crafting endgame gear.
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>>170590103
>It's just the exterior chunk that takes forever.
that's still neatly broken up imo. Now the only thing you might have a point about is the giant stair screw you have to turn around. That thing sucks ass.
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>>170590257
Well I'm still ON my first play and I'm constantly tripping over just piles of gear appropriate to my level. I don't need nearly as much as the game gives me to keep up with enemies.

What are locks?

>>170590297
I disagree but it is a matter of honest different opinion then. I retract my statement.
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Are demon horn weps still the best for forging a 160?
Just forged hundreds of unusual mengu to get a 160 helm
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>>170590727
Yes, I think so
Remember to use divine fragments as well
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>>170590727
>160 helm
Wait what? Can you get lvl 160 on armor as well?
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>>170590941
Does the number of them make a difference? Im using one at a time
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>>170591968
if you look at the top, there are a bunch of percentages. more divine fragments increases your chances of a divine. 1 fragment brings it to 49 percent and 10 has it at 89. Personally I only use more than 1 if it requires stuff besides Demon's Horns. Besides, you can get 160s outside of divine tier.
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>Forging the NEVER EVER armor
>has 'Money Earned' stats

Does this mean I'll get extra gold?
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>>170592991
it's a percentage of enemies dropping double gold
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Remember in the alpha you couldn't equip say level 30 armor until you were level 30? That would've been a real pisser later on in the main game if it was kept
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>>170590103
>In Soles, everything you find matters, except if it's like 10 coins or some faggotry like that.
I wouldn't really agree with that. Tons of stuff I get in souls I never use because it's so situational it's easier to just beat the shit out of the enemy rather than trying to throw a throwing knife that does like 200 damage at him. Once you get past a certain point some items like that are just useless. If you get a good drop in Nioh it's worthwhile, even though you may have to go through like 20 shit drops to get it
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>>170593598
imagine if forging gear didn't decrease stat requirements
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>>170590103
>(Though the alpha's chase rules probably would have made most of those worthless.)
I miss this. It was hilarious pulling the entire map on Nue stage when visiting and watching the host flail around desperately. I griefed so much in the alpha that I'm probably one of the reasons why it was nerfed.
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I'm pretty happy with this one but just out of curiosity how high can damage from behind roll on accessories?

I've given up on ever getting the perfect unlimited ninjutsu+poison damage+CCD to poisoned foes yasakani. I might go full cheese and embrace Kingos
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>>170594896
I don't. You're gay in a way I must respect though.
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>>170593716
Items, buffs, and the like are pretty shit in Souls, but even just 3 crappy upgrade mats is nice to have and there's a nice autism box checking thing to collecting weapons, rings, and armor when there's only one of them in the world.
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>>170595370
Damage from behind on accessory or armor is the damage you take from behind, not give. Don't get too excited.
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>>170595370
See >>170583081
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>>170586569
Sheeeeeit
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does any one know how heavy full tatenashi is?
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Why are the mid-game spiritfus so bad?
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>>170559786
This is slightly annoying. She had the arrow in stock and it was only a single one. There has to be a way to get bullets in bulk. My rifle build demands it.
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>>170564004
I'm not dissapointed with them, but I never use them actively. I always "wait until I really need it" and then either get to into the thick of battle and don't remember to or am one shot or stagger shoted.

If this >>170564186 is the one that activates on death then it was pretty great for me. After I was happy with the gear I had and didn't need spider-bro.
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Trying to make some meme builds. questions I have:

>anywhere I can find the eligible reforge properties for each armor slot?

>fastest way to farm random accessories (green)?

>fastest way to farm money?

>fastest way to farm familiarity on armor? any way to farm glue / whetstones quickly?

have some cutest Souls character as thanks for your help in advance
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noob here

Is there actually a point to the Onryoki Kabuto besides looking cool and slowing your dash down? just unlocked it at the forge and I don't see the point of spending materials/money on this
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>>170601447
>Is there actually a point
Autism. That's it. For those that NEED to have everything in the game. Or if they like the look, I guess.
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I don't understand. Every time i'm summoned for Nue the host somehow always ends up eating lightning bolts within ten seconds and dies.

I could see if it was just the first time you fight him, but i've had some that bring me up for the Nue roaming around in the White Tiger level and they still die just like that.
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>>170601101
>anywhere I can find the eligible reforge properties for each armor slot?
What do you mean?

>fastest way to farm random accessories (green)?
Abuse the Trail of the Master yasakani farming method (look it up on youtube)
You could also do Demon's Daughter because the reward is a divine or less accessory.

>fastest way to farm money?
Demon's Daughter.

>fastest way to farm familiarity on armor?
Ideally, just do a run or two of Demon King
If you cant efficently do it, I suggest doing Greater Demon Hunting.

any way to farm glue / whetstones quickly?
Demon's Daughter. The guy who got the key usually drop 1x Nikawa Glue per run, and the wall yokai always drop 1x Whetstone per run.

>>170601447
Its merely for cosmetics.
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>>170602860
>What do you mean?

I mean I wanted to know which special effects can appear on which categories of armor. For instance, I know that running speed can only appear on legs and feet.

Also I wanted to know which special effects can't be shared with other special effects due to being in the same category. For example, I don't think you can get multiple close combat bonuses on the same weapon.
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If I'm pure 1kat is there a reason to keep a 2nd katana beyond set bonuses? Also Sozasa Monji or Atagi Sadamune? Sozasa Monji has a locked heavy attack buff that locks me out of some of the better traits I think, not sure if it's shit or not.
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>>170603310
Oh alright. I'm not on my PS4 right now, but what I can remember from the top of my head is

>Head
Luck
>Body
Dont remember
>Arms
flat Attack value
>Waist & Feet
Running Speed
Dash Endurance
Ki Evasion Usage


>which special effects can't be shared with other special effects due to being in the same category
Not entirely sure here either, but yes you're right.
What I know is that you can only have one kind of life gain effect such as Skill Life Drain, Close Combat Life Recovery, Close Combat Life Drain etc.
Close Combat Damage, Familiarity Damage Bonus, Agility Damage Bonus, Enemies Defeated Bonus are also in the one group.

>>170603609
Atagi Sadamune is superior Imo, purely because of the Set bonus. If I recall correctly, Sozasa has higher base Attack, but like you said it has a locked Strong Attack Buff.
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>>170605247
Do you know if the strong attack bonus conflicts with quick attack bonus? Doesn't seem like it would. I have final attack on here and supposedly that is supposed to conflict.
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Should I be putting +attack on all my armor pieces?
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>>170605445
I think so, though Im very unsure about this since I rarely get x attack bonuses. My usual effects for weapons are like this
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>>170605524
Depends on what you want to accomplish.
I actually have +35 Attack on all of current armor pieces (I'm this guy >>170577938)
I find the extra Attack very helpful for my clear speed when im farming amrita, since you can get Amrita Earned from Yokai on every piece, without inheriting it.
Other inherit which is very worth is Luck, which is exclusive to helmets.

Alas, you should just inherit Attack on your armor pieces if you want. Then I suggest you make another set with inherited Luck on every piece (for Yasakani farming).
The Attack value you can get is「18 - 20」(+15 with max familiarity), while the Luck value is 「17 - 19」(+5 with max familiarity). Take it with a pinch of salt, but from my experience I have never seen Attack with a value over 20, and Luck over 19, so hopefully what I'm telling you is true.
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>tfw 650 Luck
Holy fucking shit
Living weapon shenanigans is the fucking best
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am I gimping myself if I go attribute split?

I like dual katanas, but I also wanna use a spear
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>>170610960
No, don't worry about it. Spear have C scaling on Skill (which is the main attribute of 2kats), and they both scale on Strength as well.

Besides, you can just respec later on if you find it not to your liking.
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>>170605247
Body is reduced elemental damage and life gain on amrita absorbed
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Anyone know if using more divine fragments increases the odds of getting a 160?
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Even though this game has Diablo loot it doesnt look like there is much build variety. I am searching here in youtube and every title with ''most OP build'' is the same or similar. Stacking back damage or grapple damage with weakness, carnage and 1 shotting everything. That or an infinite living weapon build. Is anything else possible or viable?
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>>170615660
Ninjutsu is powerful if boring
Gun build with Yatagarasu is nice in coop
Full walking fortress with genbu and tatenashi is hilarious
Master swordsman poisegod is also possible
Aside from that nothings stopping you from just combining sets that boost your favorite weapons and skills, thats the beauty of yasakani magatama
Killing everything by spamming square at their back gets boring real fast too. I've simply been using red demon and spears for a while now
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>>170616064
>I've simply been using red demon and spears for a while now
thats even more boring than hitting things from the back, how is this different?
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>>170616142
But spears are fun
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>>170610960
i did axe/ spear and was fine

as long as they both share scaling stats it's all good
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>>170616236
Dumb AI poster.
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>400 forges later
>still no 160
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>>170617162
>caring about ultra rare160 weapons after you cleared all or most of the content and the DLC coming next month will have higher level weapons
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>>170617242
I want max damage and i want it now.
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>>170617162
Go to bed anon.
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>>170617162
Try forging raikiri with 10 divine frags.
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>>170615660
wasnt infinite living weapon nerfed hard fairly recently? you have to take time to pop small soulstones (and have/farm a large stock from the three kids mission), rather than the previous feedback loop

personally all these red demons i'm killing are just a good source of divines and attack-inherit gloves. really having trouble finding familiarity damage on inheritance for a weapon (since you cant roll an attack mod and familiarity, but you can roll an attack and inherit familiarity, apparently)

currently playing a gimmicky 3kat with a mashup of genius strategist/justice ministry/swordmaster amors for fucking ridiculous ki efficiency on water sword, it's great
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>>170618446
You don't need divine fragments for 160. materials don't affect the weapon level
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>Yamata no Orochi

This is a cruel joke

56 attempts and I havent even been close

I think i'm overleveled too
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>>170621036
How the hell did you even get this far?
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>>170620197
I've forged hundreds of Hakujin kusarigama with no results. Yesterday after hearing tip about Raikiri and 10 frags I got level 160 on my 7th try and just now I started again to try it and got it on my 4th try. Are you really sure?
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>>170621036
you can melee attack them if you're at the edge of the stage on the roof points (they're not as far away as they look). bait them into biting the crystals (focus lightning and water down first), and power them down while they're unconscious from that.
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>>170621305
Absolutely. It's just luck.
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>>170621270
I didnt have single problem with any of the previous bosses, needing 1-2 tries for most of them

This guy is just different
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When you reach the point where leveling up costs 10 million amrita is that the cap or will it increase after a while?
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>>170617162

>have 2 160s waiting to soulmatch
>can't decide what weapons to max out because I keep changing builds and playing with new ideas
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>>170622603
Nope. 10 mil / level 250 is the hardcap
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>>170621036
Sake
Shoot the heads
Attack them at the edge of the roof
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>>170493184
Fcking this, Can you guys grow up and use a unique build already?
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>>170621305
>>170621416
I can confirm
I usually just forge a certain kusa, using one divine fragment per forge. I usually get 160 in less than 20 attempts, no joke.
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>>170622712
Literally me minus the 160s. I respecc every time I play now :/
End me
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>>170621036
Yay I did it

>Clone Kelly room

FUCK
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>>170624185
I'm going for one combining national unity set with maybe ishida's for night rain. Or maybe I'll incorporate master swordsman's for 3kat fun times. I'll probably be forced to actually use Nobunaga's katana too. Tengen kujaku for the win.
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>>170626643
Use living weapon and spam at their guards until they get guardbroken.
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Does anyone know what unique crafting material is needed for the Demon King armor? Nobunaga's set. I don't want to find out its some stupid shit like orochi scales or whatever. Please tell me it's not...
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>>170627681
It is orochi scales
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>>170627925
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170628242
Just co-op in NG, you can get scales easily like that. Relatively speaking of course
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>>170628412
Thanks anon. I guessing I'll start farming. I can get his text from the double fight correct? Not just the demon king revealed? I pretty much just need the sword text because all the ones I find are dogshit on the fixed strong attack damage. I want to see if I can actually make that a worthwhile stat since I'll be using the strong attacks a lot to earn Amrita for tengen kujaku.
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>>170630874
You definitely can, I myself just got the armor smithing text from A Meeting on the Other Shore myself, so I see no reason why the weapon text wouldn't drop as well
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>>170552936
Whenever Oni get to zero Ki, I always switch to low stance and spam quick attack until they start then move to recover, then I just dodge away. Is there ever a reason to do anything else?
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>>170631582
Depends on your build desu. For example setting up discord, Iaing for massive damage, Spin to win, and setting up poison/burns with ninjitsu. But generally quick attacks is the safest option with short term gain
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>>170615660
Anything at all is viable. Why the hell do you only care about the "most OP builds"? Be less boring. The game is way too easy as is
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>>170632230
I am really just dumping everything into 2kat and nothing else. I really only have enough in ninjistu to use the substitution skill.
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>>170631582
If you're sick of doing the same thing every time.
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>>170633284
If you're using 2kat then Water Sword is often far better than low-stance-spam when a yokai gets ki-drained.
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>>170633543
Low stance just seems better to me since it pushes them away less. I like Water sword for when something is getting up after a knockdown.
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>need to grind my weapons to +10
>decide to do demon king awakens because all those bosses
>pop 10 cups and prepare to rake in the loot
>not a single divine drop until kelley
>he drops one(1) divine at +4
>fuck it orochi must be the loot pinata
>finish the fight and spawn on the beach
>see a pile of divines
>aw fuck yes gimme
>it's just one of each weapon type
>none of them are +

At least I've got the check mark now. Anybody want to farm 2kings or Meeting with me? I'm running an underpowered poison build but I can distract one of the bosses for you.
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Anyone had any luck getting the dual swords with the native spirit scaling?
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>>170635602
Sure I will
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>>170636067

Queue up for two kings I guess, I'll set the password as "niohgen".
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>>170636539
Alright I'm coming now
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>>170636067
>>170636539

"NIOGEN" for the secret word because I guess there's a character limit.
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>>170635602
I'm not sure that cups affect drop rate, just mission rewards chance of being divine. Shitty drops for you though.
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>>170636703

That could have gone better.
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What's everyone's favorite boss fight?

Personally I find Kelly to be really fun despite how easy he is.
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>>170637151
Saika Magochi has really grown on me, he reminds me of Rufus or the Turks
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>>170637151
Hino-Enma is up there because of how well-practised I got at styling on her during the Beta. For some reason though I can't parry her swoop dash for love nor money in any mission except Way of the Samurai Deep in the Shadows. I don't understand it.
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>>170637151
Hino-Enma is probably my favorite just because of rage memories in the beta.
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>>170637719
hino best boss
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>>170637151
Biggu Froggu
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>>170506373
The Otani clan's mon (crest) was a pair of moths.
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>>170636539
I got disconnected, I'm still up for more if you are
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>>170639017
>goatse crest
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>>170639224

Same, give me 5 minutes then I'll jump back in.

Water Sword stronk
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Luci pls go
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so on my katana should i have "change attack to heart" or spirit?
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>>170639821
Depends on what stat is greater, but the scaling stacks so heart would be better if they're equal
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>>170639942
thanks
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>>170639224
>>170639359

Ready and waiting.
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>>170639358
how do we get rid of this guy?
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>>170640205
You don't. The best you can do is ignore or filter.

At least he's not shitposting as hard as he does in /dsg/.
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>>170639942
I think it just adds on the extra A+ correct? But it's actually about the same as B if I've heard right. The stacking comes from both the inherent and bonus scaling giving damage each time you level that one stat. So if he had 99 of both, it wouldn't really matter which one he had A+ scaling for. Am I right?
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>>170640717
Oh is that the case? I thought it went a bit beyond A+. Then in that scenario you would be correct
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how do I get level 160 armor?
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>>170640186
That was great! But I have to go soon, so this will be the last one unfortunately. Glad I could help
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What is that stat that makes me deal more stamina damage so I can set them up for finishers quickly?
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>>170642658

I appreciate it, it was fun. All that and I only got my weapon up one level.
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>>170643507
skill ki damage/close combat ki damage
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>>170643709
Is it possible to get those stats in armor or just weapons? I want to make a build around it so I can do chain finishers for fun.
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>>170643778
just weapons iirc

the most you can get is around a 20% boost per weapon, I'm still not sure if bonuses work if you have a weapon equipped but aren't actively using it
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>>170641653
Somebody said to forge unsual armor.
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page 10
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>>170647970
The game was honestly very disappointing.
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To forge 160 weapons you just need to beat queens eyes on NG+, along with froging purple items, right?

And its very rare to actually get one?
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>>170647993
I haven't finished it yet, but I agree, honestly. The demos got my hopes up since they stuck to the difficulty. The actual game is super dumbed down though. The twilight missions are especially disappointing. I mean, why not leave them like they were in the demo, when you could chose the one you wanted, then make the daily ones max level so you have a reason to keep playing an endgame character?
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I can only buy one. Nioh or Bloodborne?
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>>170649159
Bloodborne.
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>>170649159
Bloodborne, then Nioh later. It's worth playing but it's not a AAA game, and it feels like it.
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>>170649159
I really, really love Nioh, but you should get Bloodborne. It's the better experience. This will sound terribly cheesy but it's really more than just a fun game. That's how I feel about it, at least.
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>>170649159
both, obviously

but you can get bloodborne any time

get nioh now because pvp is coming soon
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>>170649159
>>170649664
BB is better, and if Nioh is getting PvP "later" then it would make sense to get the game later as well.
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>>170649159
Bloodborne is a better game honestly. But keep in mind the online activity will be low for obvious reasons. If you want co op you are gonna have to ask in the general.
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>>170649851
it gets pvp at the end of the month

which is just enough time to casually get a character ready for it


there is no reason to pick up bloodborne THIS VERY SECOND

the game isn't going anywhere
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>>170650052
This anon does have a good point. Nioh is still riding on the popularity of the release and might not be by the time the anon who asked is done with BB/can afford both
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>>170650052
>it gets pvp at the end of the month

At the end of next month, April. The end of this month is free boss rush mode and a new difficulty.
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>>170650386
>The end of this month is free boss rush mode and a new difficulty
Where is this coming from? I can't find any news on what this next update will include.
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>>170650052
>>170650386
PvP in these games tends to be a cluster fuck at the start anyway. Best to wait for things to get hammered out, and to see how match making works and such. Not a lot of point in making a character before we know how the systems even work.
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>>170649159
Bloodborne.
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>>170650386
oh, damn

well, it would still be worth picking up now while it's as active as possible because bloodborne's activity has already come and gone
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>>170650607

http://gematsu.com/2017/02/nioh-add-high-difficulty-missions-late-march-pvp-late-april-first-dlc-details

Late March – High-difficulty missions added. There are 10 types of missions, including missions with the feel of boss rushes.
Late April – PvP implemented.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/02/nioh-add-high-difficulty-missions-late-march-pvp-late-april-first-dlc-details#hbE2dTugI8Q9Sudy.99
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>>170650616
I have my expectations very very low. If they allow PVP with any builds and no balance people will start baiting for back attacks with kingo or bait for counters with 1kat for 1 hit kills. 10 seconds fights and 10 minutes looking for a match.
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>>170639017
Thats pretty neat, can't believe I didn't see that before
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PvP will be fine if they just don't allow onmyo and ninja stuff.
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>>170651394
Not allowing it would be BS. They just need to nerf some of the effects in PvP, such as sloth.
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>>170649159
do the opposite of whatever a tripfag says
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>fight the supposed final snake boss
>holy fuck this shit is long and finally manage to take most of them besides the last one
>HP regenerates for the last one and buffs up

Man fuck this shit
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>>170651873
Nah, they should buff it instead.
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Only shitters get hit with sloth
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>>170651928
>HP regenerates for the last one and buffs up
it doesn't regenerate, the remaining amount just takes up the whole bar because now it's only accounting for one head instead of eight

also use sake, know your nip mythology m8
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>>170651928
Dumb Aqua poster.
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>no kitsune fire guardian spirit
there's no point in going on anymore
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>>170650730
>missions with the feel of boss rushes
nice

2017 is really bad for my backlog. Still need to play Nier, Stellaris addon is coming out, Toukiden 2 end of March, still have a sealed copy of Yakuzo 0, Zelda might be gud, etc.
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What affects rolling a 160? Character level? Progress in NG+?
I keep rolling 155s and am on the 4th region
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>>170649159
Bloodborne if you're not sick of Dark Souls by now

Nioh if you want a KT twist

>>170649851
>if Nioh is getting PvP "later" then it would make sense to get the game later as well
dumb tripfag poster

>not prepping for pvp BEFORE it is released
it's like you want to get owned
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>>170653361
>2017 is really bad for my backlog
I feel it. I bought Gravity Rush 2 a week before Nioh came out. I put it aside so I could play the adventures of the first weeaboo, and I still haven't gone back to it. I feel like I missed my window of opportunity to make the most of an active community for all the treasure hunts and photo ratings.
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>>170653361
>Google Toukiden
>Get this

https://youtu.be/hw9bMsyKzSY?t=244

Heh
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>>170653510
You can't prep for it if you know nothing about it.
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>>170652107
agreed
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>>170653413

Every fucking thread. Multiple times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQCHlyMxUg
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>>170653904
>https://youtu.be/hw9bMsyKzSY?t=244
I've seen those enemies before

they were in the first game as well
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>>170654175
Oh god the AI is evolving. Next one will use weakness and carnage.
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>Lucifer posts here now
well it was fun while it lasted
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>>170654085
>not getting used to the controls
>not finding a weaponset you like
>not deciding between magic/melee/ninjutsu
>not gearing yourself on the offchance gear is gonna be relevant
sure

nothing at all
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>>170654153
perhaps it should be in the OP then

I frequent here; I help as many people out as possible if it's not already in the thread
I'm asking for schematics; facts; data so I can tell everyone else

I can only say "special item piece" at the moment
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>>170653361
>Toukiden 2 end of March
Oh god I had forgotten about that.
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>>170654480
next to For Honor the only game I was hyped for in 2017
>>
The enemy variety literally kills the game

Like holy fuck I'm fighting the same niggas from first to last level
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>>170654326
I fight ones using power pills all the fucking time. That and their habit of using sloth concern me.

Also, backwave > tempest > finishing blow and maybe an iai for good measure makes revenants fucking trivial.
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>>170654612
b-but ninjas
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Is slash of the cross as powerful on dual kat as iai on 1kat?
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>>170654612
That and poor balance.
If those 2 things were fixed nioh would be way better than bloodborne and souls games.
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>>170654612
welcome to onimusha souls

it was never going to have dark souls/bloodborne-tier variety because it's mission based and not set in a sprawling fantasy world
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>>170654612
Modern games usually don't have much since it costs a lot.Realistic FPS and the like have a real huge pass since they can just use humies all day erryday
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>>170654907
>poor balance
but soulsborne's balance is poor too...
enemy variety and music are problems of Nioh imo
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>>170654612
I hope they step it up significantly for the next one. There is so much room for improvement
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Over One Mirrion Sales
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>>170654358
>on the offchance
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>>170654910
They could have made dozens and dozens of types of Yokai, they're just lazy and focused solely on the combat
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is there any reason to ever use sword of meditation?
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>>170655881
ye, if you wanna look like a yandere
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>>170655881
In a game where speed is important, No.
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Well they already have the assets done, combat and the engine. Surely they will go crazy with enemy variety in the sequel right?
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>>170656263
What can they even do for a sequel plot-wise though? They already used Nobunaga.
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>lock on auto-aimed grab attacks that you can't block and will 1 hit you
I'm looking at you hino
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>>170656263
I just want them to add an Oni form.
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>>170656387
Hopefully something original.
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>>170655742
this sort of criticism is so vague as to be meaningless
>they could have done more
>the fact this entire game wasn't made to my ideal standard means they're lazy
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>>170656446
Learn the cue and get the fuck away then, you shitter.
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>>170655742
Good combat is harder to do than just throwing in a ton of enemies
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>>170656446
Grab attacks need to be taken out of these types of games or at least be made less effective. For example, make it so grabs only work against you if you are blocking or in the out-of-ki stun.
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>>170656814
No.
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>>170656612
No need to be cunt
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>>170656814
Your ability to read ample telegraphing and move the fuck out of range or dodge needs a serious buff.
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>>170656814
if you get grabbed, you deserve it.
I'd tell you to stop being garbage but you're a tripfag
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>>170655713
>ignoring 3/4th of the post
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>>170657050
I have had enemies instantly grab me, through boxes, as I walk around a corner. That is not deserving it. Just look at the way grabs work in fighting games (e.g. shorter range than regular attacks, can be ducked). Notice how they are actually balanced there?
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>>170657529
>Just look at the way grabs work in a completely different genre
please go back to /dsg/
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>>170657667
Don't reply to me with stupid; I'll never get the stains out.
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>>170657529
you get a warning noise though, how slow is your reaction time to actually get grabbed
>>
>people responding to Lucifer
>ever
Don't do it, it's not worth it. He's the laughing stock of every general he posts in and is generally ignored or mocked everywhere else on 4chan, Gamefaqs and Deviant Art.

Follow their example and just fucking ignore him or filter him.
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>>170658238
If that were true, you would just ignore me instead of getting triggered every time someone replies to me, kiddo. I have been using the same trip since DaS1 for a reason. The only time I was ever wrong was about WotG in DaS1, and I realized and admitted it like a thread or two later, and that was almost a decade ago.
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I am bored. Finished both NG and NG+. I want a new game. Nioh 2 when?
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>>170658869
End of the month when Ringed city dlc drops
>>
I have a fuck ton of amrita, but I've already maxed out all the guardian spirits, and I don't want to level up anymore so that I can get more loot from revenants.

Is there anything I can spend it on?
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>>170655881
do you want to style on people? then yes.

do you want to use something that isn't a huge windup for something that will likely miss against most mobile targets? then no.
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>>170664604
Its not like it matters, you can reset your levels with book anyway
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can someone drop any of the legendary swords in divine quality?
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>yamata-no-orochi

Why top off a great game with such an awful, awful boss?

Giant bosses are never good
Bulletsponge bosses are never good
Camera is your worst enemy bosses are never good

Why is this guy a thing
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>>170670301

>yamata-no-orochi
>final boss
>he doesn't know
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kekkai talisman says it purges yokai realms, does that mean it gets rid of them when you enter them or that you're unaffected by them?
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>>170670586
It's not like Hundred Eyes is any better though.
>>
If i do the epilogue mission will it start NG once its finished and all my mission need to be redone?
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>>170672195
You can switch between NG and NG+ at any time.
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>>170671509
people have trouble with him? you jsut circle him counterclockwise and he's fuckin powerless
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>>170672869
He's not difficult, he's just not a good boss.
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>>170656489
How is it vague? For a 50+ hour game having the same 13 yokai in every level is retarded. There's literally hundred types of yokai in jap folklore they could have worked with so there's legit no reason to only use 13 for a long ass game. Stop defending laziness, the levels are literally mission based which makes it even more funny.

>>170656763
Yeah yeah too bad its ruined fighting the same fuckers
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>>170671238
It instantly destroys them when you enter.
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>>170673265
yes, I'm sure it's just laziness

the entire reason is because they just couldn't be fucked with making more types, those lazy cunts
>>
What's the ideal balance of stat setting if I want to sub dual katana with one katana?
>>
Fuck this general is so slow now. At least we are not Starcraft general. Never go there.
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If I get this to +10 will the familiarity bonus go up to A+? If not how do I get it do A+?
>>
>>170675514
Ideally, 99 points into Heart and Skill, since there no soft cap.

What level are you?

>>170675757
Well, its getting kinda late here in yuropoor though, but yeah I agree. The general can be very slow sometime, but whatever.
>>
>>170675949
Around 110-120 I think, I beat the game and decided I wanted to try something on the side. Just wasn't 100% sure how far I should go with either of those stats.
>>
>>170675878
RNG, aka you have to roll the same special effect with a better rating (hint: you need A-)
>>
>>170675878
No, A- is the lowest that will rise to A+ with max familiarity.
>>
any good axe builds/videos? everything seems meh when youtube searching
>>
this game is kind of boring using axe and heavy armor. i think i'm just going to wait till the new dlc weapon comes out to start playing again.
>>
>>170677538
you can spin to win or hit with no ki for big damage. thats about it.
>>
>>170677538
Go big Willy style with full obsidian set bonuses and Big Bear. Kill everything instantly or die tryin'.
>>
Anyone wanna do some jolly coop?
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I tried to understand what Tome was talking about with divines, but now there are plus ones and shit. I have no idea what any of that means.
>>
>>170681564
>listening to anything that dumb slut says

Listen dude it works like this, see:
>get greens
>get greens with a +x level modifier
>soul match greens with a level modifier of equal or greater value to increase the level modifier of the original piece by one
>get power
>get respect
>get laid
Now get out of my face and
>get grinding
>>
>>170681564
>150 soul matched with 150+1 = 150+1
>150+1 with 150+1 = 150+2
>150+2 with 150+2 = 150+3
and so on

also worth noting (just to make it more complicated) is that the base level and the +level operate independently of each other, you can match a 154+3 and a 102+3 and it'll still turn out as 154+4
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>>170681867
YES SIR!

>>170682827
And a thank you to you as well.
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>>170584691
Can I forge a 160 without using Divine Fragments?
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>Decide to do Yokai realm
>Find a random guy
>DKR
>Alright, lets go
>I clear the shit like a fucking god while he stays in the back
>I dont know what the fuck hes doing but whatever, I can solo this
>Running up to the castle where the path is crumbling
>He dies
>When I reach the castle, he revives then use a Himorogi branch
Seriously?
You bet your fucking ass I called this little faggot out for what he is
Protip: if you decide to do Yokai realm and get your shit kicked in, then dont fucking rq like a manchild
>>
DLC needs new weapon types and skills badly
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>>170684863
ungrateful little bitch

back in my day we were glad for whatever content we got, and if we wanted more, we played it again

you spoiled shit
>>
>>170684863
The game is like 70 hours long. I get that by the end you feel like it must keep going on forever but...
>>
>>170684863
new weapons are already confirmed
>>
ded thred
>>
>>170690251
too busy playing to shitpost about it.
>>
>>170690251
Did Nioh screw up by not having "LORE" to discuss?
>>
>>170690607
well, it's japanese history stuff. that akechi is still alive is some crazy shit, for one at least.
>>
>>170690607
no

not trying to copy dark souls to the letter isn't "screwing up"
>>
>Just finished.
>Went through the entire game solo with the highest toughness I could find armor, around 90% equip load at all times, and high stance only single katana, no ninjutsu or Onymyo other than Fire and Earth talismans. Only used Bull spirit the entire game until I got Atlas Bear and then finished with that.

>Start second playthrough with spear and light armor
>Literally untouchable, poking bosses to death in under a minute

No wonder all the strategy videos I see on Youtube are using spears and Red Demon armor. Either this is as easy as it feels or I have undergone some sort of ascetic transformation from being a slow, deliberate samurai with turtle slow exhaustion recovery.

I'm not gonna go through with a spear yet, I want to try something more different, so I'm gonna restart again.

How viable is Onymyo magic focused? Is Sloth a necessity?
>>
>PvP gets added
>Reddit shitters get curbstomped repeatedly because other players aren't as braindead easy as the AI enemies.
>NERF ____!
>____ IS TOO STRONG, AND HERE'S REDDIT MATH TO BACK IT UP!
>WHY I LEFT NIOH (IMPROVEMENTS THIS GAME NEEDS)

I mean unless they normalize weapon stats during PvP and completely disable stuff like Sloth, there is no way this is gonna NOT be a clusterfuck.

Side note, is there a way to see how many times your Revenant has killed another player?
>>
>>170690836
I would not completely focus on magic. It's much better to support. I like it with 2kat. You don't need sloth.
>>
Best Boss is Still Oda + Onna fight.

Discuss.
>>
I'm level 28, using axe on Umi-bozu
Am I supposed to be dealing only 200ish damage on the weakspots because its hella slow.
If not how can I up my damage pronto?
>>
>>170693958
Responding to myself, I just realized I could light my weapon on fire with the bonfires
Good shit mang
>>
>>170694315
enjoy being stunlocked by minions without those fires
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>>170694383
The only spawn at thje beginning of phase 1 and 2, after he gets on stage there's no reason not to light them
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>>170694315
Don't use the bonfires

Prep fire amulets or talismans, low stance to proc fire status

>>170694924
untrue
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>>170694924
true.
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>>170694383
Lol just killed him with 2 bonfires, used low stance for maximum fire-proc
1 minion showed up when he jumped on land but I killed Umi-bozu too fast to be troubled
To reiterate
Good shit mang
>>
Wait...I actually have to do submissions to progress in Way of the Strong?

I thought I could just blitz main-missions. What a drag.
>>
>>170695398
Sub Missions are even easier to blitz, provide more samurai/ninja/mage locks and drop good shit - just stick with it you'll be done in no time.
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>>170670301
Fuck you, fighting an eight headed dragon on the top of a castle that is being destroyed around us is why we all got into video games in the first place.
>>
>>170697862
It's a snake
>>
Nioh is SotN2. I realized it when a mournful, longing pop song was the credits music. In 10 years, Nioh will be rereleased with the credits music changed to appease haters, but the real credits song will always be Dream of You
>>
Please does anyone have an inheritable 23%+Bare hand dmg glove ?
>Could look something more like 34% maxed
Please I really need it for my build if you could drop your rev I could just farm you until I have 5
>>
>>170701750
>23%
Does it really go that high? I have a 14.7 and every one I've seen is 13-14%
>>
well.. I am useless.
I am currently on the mission back in England and I am stuck at the three Kelley's. Any tips on defeating them? Preferably besides "git gut" since I am working on that
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>>170702486
just use cannon to headshot all 3 of them
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>>170702690
hmm that might work
>>
>>170702858
it works
https://youtu.be/SaaObSyeQQ8
>>
>>170702486
Living Weapon tends to solve a lot of problems, even if all it does is drop it into a 2v1 that should make it manageable
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>>170702486
Activate Living weapon and spam at their guard. It worked for me because the katana LW moveset has a lot of forward momentum and their projectiles would always miss.
>>
>>170702397
It's rare but it happens and is the best way to do a full fist build check you would be surprised how much damage you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xmxE_BMSZU
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>>170703168
>>170703168
>>170703168
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