/rlg/ - Roguelike General

Now we're the same as all the other /vg/ generals, posting cut girls as their OP

hmmm yess nice

>>170439341
>posting cut girls as their OP
But she didn't sacrifice hand

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>>170439481

>>170439481
Maybe he means gargoyles were cut from stone

Should I play IA? y/n

Man, a Gargoyle TSO follower is almost cheating in extended. Taking only 16.25% of HP for a torment is just plain ridiculous.

>>170442439
y

>>170442472
There's no reason to be surprised, gargoyles are meant to be an easy race.

>>170442529
Shit, where do I get a recent version? The site on the pastebin seems outdated.

>>170443014
https://github.com/martin-tornqvist/ia/releases

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>could be playing Breath of the Wild
>playing Crawl instead
Well, at least I finally got my first Yred ascension when it's been like, what, four years since I first played Crawl.

>>170443167
Thanks, anon.

>>170443227
I don't see the problem with that, Zelda is always overrated.

What are some gay roguelikes?

>>170445987
Nethack, you can't have sex with a foocubus of the same gender but you can genderbend permanently and lay lots of eggs if you polymorph on top.
And wanting to be the little girl/dragoness is gay, right?

>>170446053
Not really

>>170446095
Yes it is shut up.

>>170445987
You can marry and have sex with literally anything in elona.

>>170446312
oh right i forgot about that weeb game, that takes the cake

>>170446312
Too libertarian for me
Can you sell strong opiates to children?

>>170447003
I don't know if you can sell opiates, but you can raise children on a farm for meat.

>>170443227
>could be playing Breath of the Wild
>playing Crawl instead
It's only natural.

>>170443227
Maybe you just got bored of traps and doors?

>>170447602
Well shit, that's just enough gratuitous edge to get my attention. Maybe I should play it.

>>170443227
>Zelda
overrated games that only sell for nostalgia value.

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>D:8
>some kind of village vault
>Flayed ghost
How many ogres is this bad boy worth? I'm thinking about keeping him on cold storage up on D:4.

>>170451658
>7 ogres
Yeah, it's not worth it yet. It hits for like 30 damage.

>still no new stable
What the fuck

>>170452129
>stable
spotted the horseposter

>>170452364
spotted indeed

>>170453462
[the situation has changed]

How to spice up your runs in DC:SS
>Install Cheat Engine
>Create characters of varying races called "Warp Fiends"
>Give them +9 weapons of distortion
>Suicide at appropriate levels
>Savescum characters back until you are satisfied with how many Warp Fiends lurk the dungeon

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>>170453637
>Cheat Engine
>savescum

>>170451658
just quaff might

>>170453637
making a few more "uniques" that you just run away from doesn't "spice up" the game at all.

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OP, I liked for a long time that rlg doesn't use anime titties for their thread image. I am announcing that I don't like anime titties for the thread image.

>>170439069
>Demigod duelist
is anyone still doing this
a few people played the combo but we've all stopped by now

should we pick something else

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>>170454618
have some more rouge like anime titties anon

>>170453785
>Using Cheat Engine and Savescumming to flood your game with overpowered ghosts
I see no problems here

DE of vehumet is too easy. Just get firestorm up, chain a few zigs, then go off into extended with a shitton of supplies. Got 34 scrolls of magic mapping, 50 cure muts, and hundreds of teles

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ENOUGH WITH THE TITS

>>170455774
>speed 10 ghosts with no ranged powers

I would say Sp/Ce VM would be more dangerous, against non-rPois players of course

>>170455774
>overpowered ghosts
If you really wanted to make crawl Fun you should try to start as an AK and grab the rune without ever leaving the abyss beforehand.

Or MuMo.

anime is a rougelike because animeband exists
furry is not a roguelike
it is bloat and must be removed

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>>170456663
but furries are the foundations of DDA
and DDA is a roguelike

>You hit the Crocodile, the Crocodile is fully healed! You hit the Crocodile, the Crocodile is fully healed! You hit the Crocodile, there's an explosion of sparks! You kill the Crocodile.

Staff of chaos is so much fun right up until it hastes a hydra or something

>>170456663
DCSS has cats.
Cats are fine too.

>page 10

>robin's shining helmet is actually a -2 helmet

Fuck you.

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>>170459684
>he wield-IDs ego gear without having ?rc identified

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>>170459795
Accept the mystery.

Any roguelikes where I can become a god?

>>170459795
PAPIKA

>>170456789
>>170459431
Real life has animals. Does that mean furries are acceptable in real life?

>>170460236
Well, in many roguelikes the goal is to "ascend", "ascending" means that you usually turn into a god or demigod

In Nethack you can ascend for example, In DCSS, well, I don't know what your character is gonna do with the orb, in ADOM you can ascend too, or so I've heard.

>>170460418
You don't become a god in Nethack, you become a good little cuck under your actual god.
Guess I'll play ADoM then.

>>170460236
You'll become a demigod in NetHack when you ascend, but if you grind hard enough, you can be virtually invincible even before that.

>>170460415
Is this a trick question

>>170460759
The answer is no. Furries are not acceptable in real life.

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>>170460975

>>170456663
but *band is the definition of a cancerous bloat

>>170461106
it may be bloat, but it's up to you whether it's cancerous or if it just makes you stronger, like a mutant

i want morgoth-sama to bloat my tummy with his giant stinky load

>>170462446
No it's definitely cancerous, look at the people who got trapped playing, gaunt shells of a former person.

>>170463249
I think spicerack just has a guy with a very weird hobby and a lot of determination.

>>170463378
No anon, they're dying.

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I was thinking, and I hadn't actually won a deep elf before, so I won one

>>170460492
How do you grind in Nethack

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>>170464047
have you experienced the wonders of pudding, anon?

>>170463876
>elf
Disgusting

>>170464910
isn't elf fetish a lead in to monstergirls?

>>170463671
Dying don't mean nothing
dying is living and living is dying
ain't nobody afraid to splat no more
It's better to be dead than to live running scared

>>170464420
No, I have not, tell me about it.

>>170465292
in nethack brown puddings split into 2 new brown puddings whenever they're attacked
all of the cloned puddings have a chance to drop items, and all their corpses can be sacrificed at an altar to your god

find a brown pudding you use a crappy -3 dagger or something to do literally 1 damage, then just keep hitting them to make more and more puddings until you've filled an entire level with an infinite supply of loot pinatas

>>170465509
>in nethack
I think you mean
>in 3.4.3
Stop playing the scummy versions you scummy mummy

>>170454425
give them all that gimmicky tractor beam spell and make them spriggans or centaurs

Has anyone won a Troll of Gozag in Crawl?

>>170467991
you mean ghoul
>food doesn't matter XD

>>170468450
food doesnt matter xd except for the races and gods that specifically have food-based gimmicks, anon

>>170467991
I don't know if it is mathematically possible

Can you legitimally survive as an ogre spellcaster in crawl?

>>170469937
-1 apts across the board plus ogre hp? sure!
people used to survive as ogre spellcasters even back before their magic apts were buffed

>>170470051
Wasn't it -3? I must be confused.

>>170470139
it used to be
before their magic apts were buffed

>>170470761
Back then they had features and fun to use against monsters.
I mean bloat and tedium.

>ywn fuck the Mouth of Sauron

Someday someone will make a *band version featuring only female uniques

I hope that day comes in my lifetime

>>170471852
All the competent people are fags, though.

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>decide to try and git gud at Crawl
>achieve greaterplayerhood
>no longer enjoy Crawl

fuck

>>170471852
i am pretty sure the mouth of sauron was male...

>>170472028
Truly, the only fun part is getting slaughtered by things you are struggling to understand

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>>170472110

>>170472137
There needs to be a roguelike with gigaton of variations in creatures being mashed together to create barely understandable procedural monstrosities.

>>170472270
pretty sure slex has some kind of procedural monstrosity monsters

>>170472209
>ywn fuck a confused anime faggot who badly tries to be the anime idea of cuteness but it's obvious that he's a guy and not even a twink
Why even-
Oh wait, it may actually happen someday

>>170472604
2d traps are far superior to 3d because
>draw a girl call it a boy

>>170472028
Now play challenges. Tough combos, speedruns, joke characters.

>>170472028
If only there were other roguelikes.

Until you do the same to them.

>>170473098
Tried things like MuMo, speedrunning, etc, but it did zilch.

>>170473462
Currently suffering with IA.

>>170472209
source?

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>>170475125
https://whatanime.ga/?url=http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1489011273782s.jpg

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>autistic screeching

>>170477520
IDGI

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>hmm, these spontaneous bad effects sure are strange, maybe I got mutated...

Eughhhhh.

Is there any way to get rid of that ancient foul curse short of wrecking the sword? I don't want any more cyberdemons to get summoned adjacent to me when I least expect it.

>>170477520
I liked it best when it was "Complex" instead of Advanced. But it mostly works. Pure brainless otabbers on the left; strong but slightly "weird" species in the middle; and then species who require shifting your playstyle (but may or may not still be powerful) on the right.

>>170478816
AFC and aggravate are both guaranteed to appear on runeswords as they get more powerful over time
you can mitigate the aggravate by starting as a shadow-fairy (or spamming polymorph on the stone of chaos until you racechange into one), but there's no avoiding the AFC

IIRC AFC can only spawn cyberdemons below dlvl 60 or 70 or something, so just don't go lower than that until you can survive 500damage rockets (and preferably have a _destruction)

>>170479036
Does stat sustain prevent drains from the curse?

>>170479152
i believe so yes

>>170478816
iirc the ancient foul curse can paralyze you through free action

>>170479579
for 1d2 turns

Why stealth play is so boring in dcss?
You just run around instagibing everything

>>170479641
that's more than enough...

>>170463876

congrats

>>170469937

They're on par with deep elves now in terms of spellcaster value just because of HP. Safe SoBs is nothing to laugh at

>>170453637

I only play real roguelikes.

>>170480581
So you don't play anything and just shitpost on /rlg/?

>PCB seems very fun with all the races and classes
>try hard to like it
>can't because i can't stand ascii(or that shitty tile option that it comes with)
Come on, if I get a nice equipment let me at least see a nice sprite of it
Guess i'll be stuck in DCSS forever ;_;

>>170474953
but did you win mumo

>>170482978
>not using ascii
>>>/reddit/

>>170482978
You better learn to like ascii m8, so many roguelikes don't have good tiles.

>>170467991
>>170468450
I have won a ghoul of Gozag. It was probably my second longest game ever.

>>170483353
Guess i'll try harder to get used to it then
Its not just the eye candy aspect,at least for me its actually faster to recognize what is going on in a glance with tiles, with ascii i spend double the amount of time to figure out what are all those little characters that just appeared

>>170484083
im the opposite
i had to switch from tiles to ascii in tome4's orc prides so i could actually make out which enemies were which

>>170484083
retard

What's the best option for a FoFi in extended? Axe or Bardiche?

>>170484083
When you get used to it, it becomes very clear.

Maybe one day I will make a DK version of Angband.

>>170484532

>When you get used to it

Feed someone enough trash and he'll acquire a taste for it.

>>170486045
>ascii
>trash
DCSS babbies, everyone.

>>170485437
donkey kong?
dungeon keeper?
dragon knight?

>>170486390
Donkey Kong. I am not familiar with those two other things.

>>170484083
Honestly, DCSS tiles are just too good, especially after getting a makeover in the past few years.

The overwhelming majority of tilesets are not very good, and even for the few that are, they still lack a GUI (and overall interface experience) as clean as DCSS's.

It's why, for a lot of people, DCSS tiles > other games' ASCII > other games' tiles. A halfway decent ASCII user interface is in Nethack4, if you'd ever be interested in that. But the *band games tend to have clunky interfaces, even with their subwindow features.

>>170486620
the phrase "dragon knight" is a combination of the words "dragon" and "knight", hope this helps
try playing a dragonrider warlock in PCB but then give up because it's too shit in the earlygame

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>>170486792
Is it better later on?

>>170486349

Anyone would rather be a crawlbabby than a kindergartner

>>170486964
i dont know because i havent got one that far
presumably it's great if you can get yourself a pack of law wyrms and use the "every single dragon you owns breathes at this poor fool" power to oneshot nerds

What the hell, anons? Here I am trying to rip and tear as a Half-Troll Chaos-Warrior of Khorne only to learn that not only can you not choose a patron (it's always set to index 0) but the different patrons are basically just shitty Xom with slightly different "reward" tables.

>>170488802
the patron is supposed to be random
i think someone said it was bugged and giving the same one every time a bit earlier, maybe that hasn't been fixed yet

you used to be able to reroll your chaos patron along with your stats etc during character creation

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Yet another victory post

Just how did you guys make a berlin shitstorm while I was sleeping?

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Good to see you again, fiddy.

In other news, lategame craft spells slam my mp pool, but passwall ensures I literally cannot die without a self-made h*ckup. Also the new (but actually old) pseudo enemies are almost unfailingly annihilation/tele other fodder, so that's kinda lame. Their threat level/damage output can't justify killing them for loot, much like lords of change and keepers of secrets.

>>170490151
what class anon?
and why are you using stoneskin instead of magicarmor which is just "stoneskin plus a bunch of other shit"

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how come monster-race liches dont use the necromancy spellbooks

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Welp.

>>170492462
go fight it you pussy
it only has +85 speed and 300damage psyspears

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>>170492747
Thanks genocide, death truly is best realm.

>>170489336
If anyone cares, threw together a patch for it

Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 02:26:35 +0000
Subject: [PATCH] Fixed chaos warrior patron

---
src/py_birth.c | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)

diff --git a/src/py_birth.c b/src/py_birth.c
index 26c5cda..99cfcc4 100644
--- a/src/py_birth.c
+++ b/src/py_birth.c
@@ -2540,6 +2540,10 @@ static void _birth_finalize(void)

p_ptr->au = randint1(600) + randint1(100) + 100;

+ if (p_ptr->pclass == CLASS_CHAOS_WARRIOR) {
+ p_ptr->chaos_patron = randint0(MAX_PATRON);
+ }
+
get_max_stats();
do_cmd_rerate_aux();

--
2.7.4

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helb invisible things drain my spirit

>>170493449
the best way to bust ghosts is throwing knife
also stop posting frogs, we only accept specific flavors of autism here and frogposting isn't one of them

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>>170493624
your flavors taste bad

>>170491052
Mp costs and fail rates are a big concern on this warrior-mage of mine. Not yet prepared to do an equipment switchup.

>>170494315
ah so it's warrior-mage, I see
how useful is the access to arcane spells?
i always found it strange that there weren't more hybrid classes with only 1 realm

>see Ito thread on /v/
>remember that DDA has Ito references in it
>neither Ito nor DDA have good endings
Exercises your intelligence

>>170447602

What's the reproduction rate of human females again? Last time I was into it, I've seen reproduction rates of 1 so it's impossible for some livestock to reproduce themselves in a farm. Is there a table for this somewhere?

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Well, double turns are a bitch.

So I was having white screen problems with PCBR but they just went away on their own. Go figure.

>>170496151
rip
how did you get that far into the vault without meeting mr gwob anyways
you shoulda -TO'd him while he was asleep
or just geno from outside the vault since deathpriests have an infinite supply of that

>>170490139
Dknights were such a letdown. Why does everything melee have to scale so badly compared to bump attacks?

>>170496414
I was resting after teleporting a bunch of shit away, possibly including that same. I thought "disturb on seeing creature move" would work.

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>>170494819
For me, the lategame stuff is almost invariably useless because it's so mana intensive. The lower books have a few situational things like stone to mud/blink/cure wounds, but it's almost all redundant stuff that has no use beyond level 30. If my int were higher that might be a different story, but why bother compromising to increase int when I can get the same thing with devices already and at lower fail rates with more casts besides? More open slots for damage wands/staves aren't particularly important to me because of good melee damage.

>>170496680
that only works for visible monsters, there's a separate option for ones outside of LOS detected via telepathy or etc

>>170496827
I believe it would have been viewable in the tile down and right from the GWOB's current position. Or if it wasn't viewable there, then it would have to move then breathe twice before I got an action, while being slower than me.

It is extremely frustrating.

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>tfw currently out of my groove in Demon

>>170424295
It's a flying rod. A weird little cryptid that is really just a distortion in cameras. I can imagine it working as a sort of combination of will o wisps and raicho.

>>170497137
still you should probably be more paranoid about shit that can twoshot you

if i need to rest while clearing a vault i usually leave the vault and rest somewhere outside of telepathy range

I forgot how hard IA was

How do I turn on autopickup on PCBR?

>>170498268
press _

>>170497161
>tfw burned out on demon for a few months now
>tfw the dev is focusing on adding skills/demons instead of making the tower interesting and good looking and fun to explore
>tfw keyboard support is STILL getting shafted in favor of mouse support

Do classes have proficiency limits in PCBR like in Nethack? Can those be checked?

>>170498730
I do feel that my pleasure in the game will be strongly rejuvenated by the next build. It looks like there will be a lot to learn, and an icy hammer build may finally be easily possible soon.

>>170499264
yes they do, and no you can't
well you can see that a skill is at your class's limit because it will have a ! next to it, and your can see all the classes' skill limits in lib/edit/s_info.txt but it's not very human-readable

proficiency matters less than nh except for dualwield/riding

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>You nearly faint as horrible visions of death fill your mind!

>tfw not good enough to have seen this message yet

>>170498730
I hate how prohibitively expensive skill transfers are in the game now. Back in the pre-currency days you had a ton of freedom in how you built your character and team so long as you could acquire the skill in question, now there's no room for experimentation whatsoever and it's generally never worthwhile to teach a skill to something (or learn it yourself) unless you're taking it to endgame.

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>>170496631

Bump attacks?

>>170500269
The regular attack. Before long you're comboing everything which makes the "bash" style moves worthless, and DK's whole gimmick is having a bunch of bash moves.

>>170500431

Oh that's right they're only noob traps, but the Strong Shield is already enough to overwrite those bad skills and carry you anywhere. They actually are the strongest class in OWH just because of that cheat skill and the best str+vit+max HP+WT growth IMO

>>170499881
>prohibitively expensive

Do you play with absolutely no currency gaining/saving abilities or something? If anything my experience is the opposite of yours- Recycle alone lets me pull of outrageous currency shenanigans compared to Skill Points.

Try an Eye of the Dragon with Recycle>Capacity Up>Capacity Up and use your extra slots for snack demons and you should have literally more money than you can spend.

>>170443227
How is Crawl in comparison to ToME? I've recently become interested in the genre and I'm looking for some fairly user-friendly games to check out. I'm not a retard so I don't want "user-friendly" to come across as "I want an easy game". Mainly looking for stuff with fairly intuitive mechanics and well-balanced class/gameplay design

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What does "Rng 15" mean?

>>170503360
Range 15 possibly? Meaning it's 15 tiles away.

>>170502779
Yeah let me just get 3 relic upgrades before I'm most of the way through the game- oh wait.

>>170502789
They're very different. Crawl is more well-balanced/well-designed, but it isn't about finding heaps of cool loot and getting awesome powers like many other games. It's more about resource management and adapting to new challenges with what's been given.

>>170499881
i haven't played demon very much but i preferred the old system too
it seemed to encourage poking around and trying out new shit more, whereas the current currency system basically demands that you plan shit and decide which abilities you want to spend cash on way in advance
it might be more interesting to people who already know the game but it feels a lot less newbie-friendly because it punishes experimentation and trying out new shit

>>170504080
ToME was kind of triggering me with the randomized aspects on loot and the value of items in association to their weight. Also, getting popups asking me to donate every time I played wasn't helping either. The main thing I enjoyed was the mouse support honestly. I'd prefer playing something where I'm able to click around rather than being restricted to my keyboard

>>170504304
Brogue. With that in mind, I still strongly encourage taking an hour to get accustomed with vikeys, opens up a lot of games and it's really convenient once you get the "hang" of it.

>>170504304
>prefers mouse over keyboard
get gud, mouse is strictly inferior to keyboard input

>>170504649

>vikeys

would rather "hang" myself to be honest

>>170504975
Don't have to move your hand from the numpad or mouse to check your inventory or the map.

>>170504975
>>170504649
Join the "cardinal directions with your right hand, diagonals with your left" master race already, you plebs

I bound movement to a microphone interpreter thing and now I play hambone in order to roguelikes

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>>170504975
you should

>>170505317

I use mouse since it's convenient for playing crawl. All roguelikes should follow suit of having mouse support so moving isn't tedious

>>170505439
>not just using voice recognition and dictating the keyboard letters one-at-a-time

>>170505831
>dictating hjklyubn
this is a new level we are reaching here
>try to read a scroll
>accidentally activate your r ability
FUCK

What the hell does the cursed player status do in PCB?

>>170505981
that status light just shows up when one of the items you're wearing is cursed
the curse always prevents you from removing the item until it's uncursed, but it can also potentially come with other side effects like "slow regeneration" , "low ac", "attracts dragons", or best of all "spreads curses"

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>>170506481

>>170505184
>>170505535

>muh vikeys
>muh hand movements
>can't just admit that his fingers are too fat to play roguelikes

Funny, I could almost smell the stench coming from your unwashed walmart sweatpants from here. Why don't you take a break? Give your cum and dorito dust encrusted keyboard a break from labouring under the intense weight of your plump, varicose, sausage shaped fingers as they strain to slowly form plodding, barely cohesive sentences. I know your blood is thick as fucking gravy and you're half braindead from all the monster energy drinks you consume daily so I understand this will take your shriveled, dried raisin of a mind a little longer than average to comprehend. But in 5 minutes when the electricity finally cycles back from your tiny little blank eyeballs to your thick skull you will realise just how fucking stupid you sound.

>>170504649
So was this not helpful advice? I just want to click around rather than move around like some rickety piece of shit on my keyboard

>>170506559
wait what
do you have a keyboard where the numpad keys are larger than the normal letter keys
how would fat fingers interfere with numpad but not vikeys

>>170506890
brogue and dcss's offline version both have mouse interfaces so that if you are afraid of having to learn what a keyboard is you can still play them mouse-only, the same way your grandma plays farmville on facebook all day

>>170506481
>Not OgBe with teleportitis

>>170506481
>Angband:1 with sexy personality

>>170507294
>you're inferior because you don't want to play games like we're still in the DOS age
When is your mom going to finally kick you out?

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>>170507701
>>170507754
Those are pretty good ones too.

>>170507294

Crawl webtiles have already stepped up its game and already has mouse support. When are the other tedious roguelikes going to have one?

>>170509060
never because they dont have enough normalfag casuals in their playerbases for the devs to care about spending their time on that shit

>>170509350

Why are you torturing yourselves? Mouse usage is objectively less tedious and would save your obese fingers from the dreaded hand movements

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>>170472475
Here you go. Also, the Amy is planning to add more of them in the next version.

>haven't checked /rlg/ since it was a thing on /v/ and /vg/ was a twinkling cancer cell in a mod's eye

>same pastebin FAQ

so i guess there's no new games out worth mentioning?

>>170510926
not exactly a new game, but play poschengband
and dont be a faggot who complains about tiles and mouse interfaces

>>170511059

>poschengband

It possesses an entirely different garbage from lack of tiles and mouse interfaces though.

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That's some abhorrent malarkey right there. You sure you couldn't have added globe of invulnerability and self heal too? What about charge draining?

Personally I input commands into my mic based on pitch. It helps me practice on my trumpet since if I don't use enough Air or make the wrong note than I'll fault.

>>170511513
your monster recall window is weirdly narrow anon

without the summon he would just be a tankier tarrasque, but adding that in makes him way, way worse

>>170511678
my laptop can only hold so much window

>>170511869
dont buy 1366x768 laptops
it only encourages the manufacturers to continue doing dumb shit

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Not as bad as the destroyer, but leagues worse than the tarrasque because of retaliation and fat HPs.

>>170511924
close, but it's 1280x720

>>170510183
mouse usage in DCSS is objectively more effort. O and Tab are on the keyboard, and you can make macros on the keyboard. I've played mouse, numpad, and vi keys, and vi keys are the best, people are just too lazy to learn them

>>170512216
the tarrasque is a big deal in vanilla angband because he's absolutely not worth fighting
even if you have the appropriate resists he's a big healpot tax and doesn't drop good loot to make up for it

in PCB where infinitely-recharging staves of healing exist, he's nowhere near as much of a big deal
he has no summons so as long as you can survive 2 breaths in a row you are never in danger

>>170474953
did you succeed at speedrunning? You gotta get at least 1 combo highscore, you can't proclaim yourself a 'greatplayer' if you don't even have combo highscores

>>170512307

Mouse usage for movement and map navigation obviously. It's the one that we crawl players would inevitably do the most besides o, tab and pressing 5. Do you actually navigate an already explored map using muh vikeys or any keyboard bs? Because that's so dumb and masochistic if that was true.

>>170513008
why would you need to navigate an already explored map in the first place, other than just doing G>

>>170513008
most points of interest can be found quickly with the keys. G> and G< for down and upstairs. If there's a specific item, then ctrl f. If it's a certain branch, then G [branch letter]. If it's a certain spot on the map that isn't a portal or item, then capital X capital [directional vi key], then enter. It's really quite easy once you get the hang of it, there's no way I'd be able to consistently mash a TrBe to Lair in less than 5 minutes using the mouse.

>>170472270
I love Dwarf Fortress.

/rlg/ what roguelike should I play next. I've beaten Nethack/unnethack to death on my phone. I liked Elona but it's fairly shit, not a huge fan of no-tileset games. I've gone through fuckloads of roguelites as well, kind of just want a game that has the mystique of nethack when I first started playing. I've heard good things about angband and DCSS but never really got very interested in them.

>>170514063
Slash'EM Extended. No matter how good you are at vanilla Nethack, in this variant everyone starts as a noob again.

>>170513120
>>170513832

G, F or any keyboard BS won't do anything if I want to go to a specific tile, do you even play crawl?

>If it's a certain spot on the map that isn't a portal or item, then capital X capital [directional vi key], then enter.

lmao

>>170514125
Sorry, I should have clarified. I've played SLASH/SLASHEM/SLASHTHEM and while I loved all three I was kind of hoping for something totally new. I yearn for that "What the fuck is anything and how do I do anything" experience.

>>170514234
Slash'EM Extended does that. Play it. SLASHTHEM is shit by comparison and has next to no content.

>>170514391

fuck off with your shit game tranny

>>170514449
wanna see some actual shit game, take a look at SLASHTHEM

>>170514231
lmao

>>170514391
Honestly SLASHEM felt really gimmicky and isn't what I'm looking for. I haven't beaten any of the SLASH variants and I don't really see any appeal in being a dark jedi bleeder or some shit.

>>170514231
do you play crawl
there is ltierally no need to navigate maps beyond otab and X>

>>170514234
Play pseudoelliposchengband-r

>>170514667

>and X>

ahahaha

>>170514063
PRIME is a neat scifi *hack
fairly short compared to nh though

>>170514748
Sometimes you need to pick a specific downstairs instead of just mashing G>

>>170514758
I don't mind a shorter game, I'm just going to be without internet for a few days so I figure a solid roguelike would be a good way to blow time when I'm not hanging out at my friends playing switch.

>>170514234

>I yearn for that "What the fuck is anything and how do I do anything" experience.

So basically any unplayed roguelike. Just play everything then, you would always get that experience

>>170514848
I mean yes and no. I figured I'd get a recommendation from the thread since quite a few roguelikes are either balls hard for no real reason or stupidly easy to break and it's admittedly hard to find one in the middle.

>>170514928

You won't learn that from other's mouths. You have to play everything to know what'll satisfy you

>>170515013
>Consume all the vidya.
>Become some kind of roguelike-based Lich creature.

I'll do it.

What spells are the good ones for PosChengBand Samurais?

>>170516658
harakiri

HOW DO I STOP SUCKING DICK AT MNOLEG'S FLOOR

EVERY TIME IM THERE HE JUST MALMUTATES THE FUCK OUT OF ME UNTIL I INEVITABLY SPLAT ON THE SIX TRILLION THINGS HE SUMMONS

BTW CAN'T USE HASTE

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>loli catgirls HD

>>170518318

Well, do you have at least 20 str, level 24 weapon skill, level 20 fighting and a !might? You can thank me later

>>170518318
Just steal the damn rune and get the fuck out of that place.

>>170518616
i always go in at max level, max fighting, armour, weapon, shield, dodging at 20, might and agi potion and every time i get malmutated and can't even come close to mnoleg because he just summons things like an asshole and runs away

>>170518871

You're lying. You were obviously doing something wrong in that one run because I can 100% always kill him even without a level 20 weapon skill or any of those bloat defenses. Read fog abuse terrain use scummy spells worship a non-useless god.

What's the suggested Extended progression? Slime>Abyss, then what? Tomb>Hell>Pan or Hell>Pan>Tomb, cause I've heard both versions.

>>170519427

Casters are better at PanHell while otabbers can go both ways since they're otabbers.

>>170519607
whabout SpEn

>>170520617
SpEn reaches MAXIMUM STAB at around lair, so should probably be branching out to either o-tabbing or casting.
Seriously, once you have 27 stealth and castable Invis, you're as good as you're ever going to be.

>>170521242

Not as good as someone who didn't invest in waste of exps though

>>170521242
What? Dont listen to this guy, no need to go for 27 stealth, 20 or 22 is more than fine, invest into other spells because hexes only cant carry you all the way through zot and extens if you plan on doing it

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time to for a trip in thailand

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I'm a big guy now I can handle this giganigga

>>170524924
Doesn't this game have a 30fps lock and runs like shit?

>>170525530

That's a non-issue since it happens rarely and goes away real quick.

>>170525635
Well the people in the steam forums complain a lot about it.

>>170525971

Idk, I already have hundreds of runs where I don't even get a single fps drop since like I said, it happens rarely and even if it happens, it goes away immediately. I guess you'd get triggered if you were playing on a PC where you haven't encountered low fps even once and you know you shouldn't encounter it

Just see for yourself. It's F R E E anyway

>>170526456
>It's F R E E anyway
Where

playing cata dda

where can I find plenty of kevlar items?
a fema camp?

>>170526934
Well, if you take the vests from the Z-9 you can cut them up and get kevlar

>>170527046
the z9s I killed didnt drop any vests :(

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>>170526704

It's blocking the links as spam so just type these

>>170527140
Well shit

Maybe you can find some in a milsurp shop, last time I went to a FEMA camp they didn't have any kevlar in there.

>>170527207
Aren't those outdated versions?

>>170527327

The only single relevant part of those patches is a system setting that could be enabled so traps are always visible to players. A patch made for casuals shouldn't concern you. I also noticed just now that this game actually has a 30 fps lock. The lag I have been getting rarely is most probably a single digit fps lol

But it doesn't change the fact that it's still a non-issue. I thought I was playing in 60 fps the entire time

>>170528495
From what I've heard in the forums invisible traps are super bullshit. My PC is pretty weak so I'll probably get lots of lag.

I'll pass.

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psssh nothin' personnel kid

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stop using magic

>>170532252
But I don't use it

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>>170532252
I don't need magic, all I need is my trusty blade and my rifle I open-carry everywhere.

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Slime life.

>>170519427

Slime/Abyss/Vaults:5 are about equally hard.

As for whether you do Tomb, Hell, or Pan first it really depends on your build. Tomb is unbelievably nasty for most characters, but for others (undead, good gods, statue form) is very manageable. Pan is the easiest of the three IMO but because if you find a rune floor you can't leave without losing that rune forever you want to be prepared before going in. (rN++, rF+++, some way of grabbing the runes and getting the fuck out, etc). Hell can take repeated attempts but the final floors are the hardest levels in the game.

>>170533501
>Slime/Abyss/Vaults:5
That is bullshit, Vaults is easier than Slime and Abyss

I always do Tomb and then avoid Pan and Hell.

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>>170533859

V:$ is liable to kill you outright with a bad combination of monsters (silence, stair lock, ancient liches) while the enemy set in Slime and Abyss is much more predictable and more easily prepared for. Abyss:3 is barely any more dangerous than the non-runefloor Vaults levels, especially since it's to easy to just turn tail and gtfo if you see a bad situation heading up.

Slime is trivial, just clear the outer circle before you enter TRJ's chamber so you don't draw extra slimes to you via battle noise.

So what version of DCSS do you guys usually play?
Trunk? Stable? One of the older ones?

I've been playing a lot of .14 lately

>>170536056
I still die more in abyss and slime, but alright.

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I recently re-became a NEET so you're gonna see a lot more MuMos these days!
Yay!

>>170526934
Cutting up combat boots and tactical gloves will give some. Some firefighter gear has kevlar if you've got an accessible firestation nearby. If you have a digging tool and come across a crash site map extra you can often find an mbr vest or three by clearing the rubble. Lab barracks are the most reliable source in my experience, you'll find a ton of gloves and boots in the soldiers' rooms. That's a late game kind of raid, though.

To whoever is it that's developing PCB-R
thanks

>>170537583
Yayyy me too!

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Slimes.

I need a better weapon, though.

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Devs pls let me enchant artifacts

>>170537583
Hold the fuck up is he hanging by his beard?

>>170538574
><600 HP at level 42
>as a primarily melee monster class that can get charge drained
>2 Hours in
Coffebreak?

Which keys do you use for macros in PCB?

>>170538757
Coffeebreaking yeah.
At DL40 so it isn't that dangerous, yet.

>>170538754
>hangiong
Clearly his neckbeard has turned into a skyward sword and he's about to pierce the dastardly villain that just killed his pet.

>>170538890
Oh, I see.

>>170538856
the function keys are otherwise unused
also tab

IT'S OUT BOYS

http://te4.org/blogs/darkgod/2017/03/news/tales-majeyal-150-unbroken-unforgotten-embers-rage-104-and-ashes-urhrok-1

>>170540081
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT TOME I WANT THE NEW STABLE

>>170540081
>ToME

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Nice.

>>170542135
you doing the same death+whatever priest as last time?
dont get too cozy with any balance wyrms

>>170542135
>wis: 18/90
That's not nice at all.

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Hey, free shield!

>>170542786
why not
stats can be boosted with items, it's only liferating that can't be overcome

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>could be playing Breath of the Wild
>playing Crawl again
FoAK is a pretty rad combo. And getting the abyssal rune is pretty easy when you can leave the 'byss whenever things get hairy.

>>170549468
>could be playing shit
>play something bland instead
i dont see the problem

>>170549539
>shit
nice meme
>bland
At least you got that right.

>could be playing roguelikes
>shitposting in /rlg/ again
Well damn

>>170550368
it keeps fucking happening

Ananias keeps getting better every update, I'm honestly surprised. This game looked pretty unremarkable when it came out, but now that it has enough content to hang with the big guys, the minimalism looks sleek instead of like an excuse. And it has a browser version, which is neat. I've been enjoying it.

http://ananiasgame.com/play/

HOW DO I DEAL WITH THE FUCKING SPIDER ZIG AS MELEE

LMAO JUST THROW 10 ENTROPY WEAVERS LMAOOOOOOO I HOPE YOU SCUMMED FOR SCROLLS OF FOG IN THE ABYSS/PAN LAOOOOOOOOOOO OTHERWISE FUCK YOU

>>170552686
Seems simple but interesting, what's the difference between the normal version and the steam version?

>>170553278
>gone through enough of the game to reach zigs
>invested in zero (0) ranged options
fault

>>170552686
>the minimalism looks sleek instead of like an excuse
Not really

>>170554796
meme's on you i had +27 xbows and sniper but the fuckers still all corroded me in like 3 turns to -128

>>170549468
stop playing easy combos, morbi

>>170555372
>>170553278
Interesting
Tactical
Situations

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Sure.

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Looks like donald has an ever better shield for me in stock!

>>170557880
>no rPois

9/10 it's okay

>>170557880
pretty good
might still be worse than standart feanor tho

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Look at this cockbag! And people have the temerity to complain about Mnoleg, of all things.

>>170557880
Enjoy not having ~30 base speed at all times against the new uniques

>>170549587
You need to accept the truth, anon. Calling everything a meme won't make them go away.

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>>170558413
>30 base speed
>still die due to EnErGy RaNdOmIzAtIoN

>>170540081
did he update it into being a good game?

>>170553697
Nothing except two character Classes that you can only play as in the paid version - an offshoot version of the already existing mage who's slightly different, and a combat monk. They're easy to tell apart from the normal classes, because they're a khajiit and an argonian (or whatever this lore calls them) instead of the other classes who are exclusively human.

The monk is pretty fun, probably got my best run as one of them because I had shit luck finding weapons but his whole thing is unarmed, so it was cool. And the magic system in this game is good, so playing as another magic user might be neat, but desu I've never gotten around to him.

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>>170559134
>energy randomization

That's so last week. We're gonna die to random summons from ancient foul curses this time around.

>swamp and shoals
clearly, there is no god

>>170559716
but that's not possible anon, it's swamp or shoals. You mean snake and shoals?

>>170559518
Mh, well, the free version is good enough, strange that it hasn't been mentioned more before.

>>170559807
I meant swamp and spider, sorry.
The best possible MuMo duo

>>170558413
are you outside of LOS
in my experience uniques tend to spam shit like heal-self and invulnerability when you are out of vision trying to scum them with summons

>>170559856
The web, Steam, iOS and itch.io versions are all quite recent, it was originally only on Android, so I can understand why it's only now that I occasionally see it on 4chan.

>>170560295
I was passwalling toward him at the time, fortunately he's dead now and I can worry about getting slaughtered by even more dangerous and annoying things

>>170559984
just run past them lmao

Elephants of the kind most dire!

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Think this is the first time I've won on the same day I started the character. Also probably first win before level 27.

>>170496092
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Breed_power

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I've got a large shield for emperors, reflection for orbs and Sinv for moths.
I still fucking hate spider

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Oh, and for the one person in the next 12 years who decides to play a craft warrior-mage, no mana branding allowed for you. That would simply be TOO POWERFUL, unlike swordmasters, tonberries, or monks of nature.

man, making orbs of destruction rotate around you is too much fun

>>170568117
manabrand is uncastable for everyone but full-fledged mage types IIRC
skillmaster is the only class that gets castable manabrand AND nonshit melee

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Never saw this before.

What's this about?

Also large shield with <15 shields sucks

This OP image makes me rock-hard.
Am I a pleb?

>>170568960
Yes

>doing the Crypts with rN+++ and MR++++
That was a freebie.

For some reason I expected things other than flayed ghosts to present a threat.

>Confused by zerked tarantella
What a horrible way to die

>>170568806
>Never saw this before.
>What's this about?

It's apparently a message that comes up for a specific vault in Spider:

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/a656266048bbff7062898c2c38fec8ebe7e37fb4/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des

Search for "Spider Trap Map". It's apparently the only Spider vault that uses that warning message and the spider traps.