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Never trust weebs edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

Previous thread: >>170397396
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For Honor?
More like For Goner KEK
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PNzbmYEGO0

>20-32s
>in what fucking universe do we fucking bow to reddit
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>Guy in a duel asks me how to fight/counter my strategies
>Tell him and give him advice
>He learns
>Feel good for teaching another player
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>playing Elim
>Fighting my opponent when a team mate dies, and then his opponent comes flying at me from off-screen
>Kill my primary opponent and switch to new guy, second team mate dies
>Still fighting my second opponent when third enemy team member shows up and last team mate dies
>Kill second opponent just as third shows up
>4th shows up soon after
>Beat both and claim victory

When did you git gud, /fhg/?
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shame they look like shit, at least i got 300 salvage for the two
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>>170426938
when I learned to play a fat guy

color him green

and defend my swamp
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>tfw your upper torso falls off
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>>170426691
PK has transcended the ledge itself.
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I've discovered a big problem and need some serious help guys.

I have never won a Duel against a Berserker.

I don't know what it is but I just cannot reliably deal with them. I can't parry any of their attacks.

Help me. Warden main btw.
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>>170426897
The best feel
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>ITT we post and Comment Hero Selection menus
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>>170426990
>tfw you cant feel anything from the chest down
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it's already at the point where if you use the asterisk gear you look like a straight-up disgrace
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>>170427061
this
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>>170426691
>fight valk player
>does nothing but top hit then right then sweep
>bitches when i just shield bash heavy
>complains that you literally cant counter it
>leaves on round 3
will people learn to dodge and not to spam their flowchart
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How stop PK?
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>>170427003
Swing, feint, grab when they dodge.
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>>170426941
It's actually much more common than any other Heroic sword, AND looks like shit
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>It's a 3 bots on your team episode
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>>170427141
Alt+F4
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>>170427145
Can you feint lights too or just heavies? What if they just block?
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is asterisk gear only for weapons?
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>>170426843
I'm not sure whether I should cringe or laugh
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>>170427141
nuke her with Catapult
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>>170427249
Berserker can feint lights, so be careful. Otherwise, no, you can only feint heavies.
If they just block, then you can either feint > guard break, or feint left or right > top light, or feint top or left > zone attack
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>Playing elimination
>Get stomped the first round by a Warden who severely outskilled me
>Pair up with him again next round
>Run and grab a shield and beat him
>WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW
I love how people throw tantrums over using the buffs in elimination
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>>170427141
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>>170427365
>>170427249
To add on, berserkers like to do their dodge attacks often. If you go up against a berserker that does, then feint, then parry his dodge attack.

Remember to throw in some actual heavy attacks along with the feints, to keep the berserker guessing.
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>Go against a Rep 2 Warden as a level 10 Lawbringer
>Manage to repeatedly throw him into a corner and shove him into stuns
>He complains about it being impossible to beat and quits
>Get matched against him again
>This time go my level 3 Conqueror
>He's still Warden
>Vortex the FUCK out of him
>He complains it's impossible to beat and leaves
>Also complains about Peacekeepers, Berserkers and Warlords

I love playing LB. Legitimately the worst class but definitely the most fun.
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>>170427380
they are an aspect of the game, map control is important. How it really should play out in the beginning of a round is you deciding wether it is more advantageous to go after a buff yourself or to stop your opponent from going after his
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>shugoki
>playing elim
>opponent blocks most of my attacks
>I block all their attacks
>teammates die, not surprising, ones a bot and died first
>see the popup of my teammates dying one by one
>still can't kill my opponent
>close, but no cigar
>other 3 arrive nearly unscathed
>now fighting a 1v4
>fml
>manage to external block most of the attacks
>fuck it, i'm running
>run for about 30 seconds
>one of them grabbed a fucking movement speed increase buff
>stuns me long enough for the others to arrive again
>revenge
>stunlock
>hold them off for a little bit
>get guard broken and stunlocked to death

at least it took all 4 of them to kill me
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>get disconnected during a duel just as I was being executed first round
>awkward timing but whatever
>get multiple long messages from the guy 10 mins later about how I was destroying the community by quitting and how awful I was

wew that was some autism
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>>170427739
How did you get messages from him? Console? Can you still do that on consoles?
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I haven't kept up with the game for the past few weeks. Have they patched the glitch where Shugoki gets an unparryable unblockable charged R2?
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>>170427782
Console yeah, you can send anybody any message as long as you have their tag.
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>>170427782
oh yeah. and voicemails too

there is something insulated and special when it comes to console where you feel like maybe these people haven't played many games and think they deserve to win all the time because they bought a game.

it's difficult to explain. but people really go off on consoles. and i'm saying people who are so bad that they shouldn't have any emotion at all in the game.
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Don't like ledges, don't stand next to one.
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Oh god what?

Is this like my Dark Knight fight because I'm a raider main.

If I defeat the football within me do I become a paladin?
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>>170428036
>deadpool emblem
It's the naruto emblem at this point
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>>170428097
I just have a dark red crucifix on a white background. It's nothing special and nobody will remember it, but it looks clean.
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>>170428036
I want to see some game where every person on both teams is the same character.

>8 shugokis
>8 peacekeepers
>8 nobushis
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I have managed to find a single Elimination game. Took 20 minutes of queue and I had an AFK on my team and the enemy team had three peacekeepers, but I did it. We lost horribly.

Back to duels and getting 20 steel a match with no orders ever, I guess?
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>>170426941
I've gotten like 7 full Giglamesh's but only ~1.5 Rogan's (the default sword) on my Rep 12 Warden. Shit's silly.
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I AM THE SUN
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>>170427739
>>170427782
>>170427872
I play on xbone, and For Honor has given me more fucking hatemail than I've ever recieved before my entire time playing on xbox 360 and xbox one
>Gank a PK in elimination
>Get a message from them
>Don't check it until the game is over
>"Stop ganking, you're trash"
>Reply to him telling him to go to duels if he wants 1v1s
>"You're trash! Your k/d is worse than mine, I checked you on the for honor tracker haha!"
>Tell him it's fucking pathetic that he's looking up my stats because I ganked him
>"Oh I look up lots of people, don't feel special"
>He then sends me a screenshot of his own stats as if I even give a shit
The funniest thing about this is stats are fucking meaningless. If I wanted to be an austist I could leave every single game I'm losing or doing bad in and have perfect stats officially.

But yeah, we have people so fucking salty they actually look you up on the stat tracker to try talking shit
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>>170428327
420praiseitmotherfucker
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Can only find duels.
Dominion or Deathmatch all timeout.
Open NAT.
WHat the fuck is going on?
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>>170428000
I'd love to see this scene edited with that guy grabbing power ups while running around that room
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This patch removed player counts from consoles also, by the way

This almost makes my face feel hot with embarrassment for Ubisoft. Nobody would care if they saw it, regardless of the number. But removing it looks so grim and sad.
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>>170428397
They made their money. I got the game for free so I'm not too mad, but I'd imagine people who bought the full priced game and season pass will be pretty upset when their 100+ bucks disappears because Ubisoft shit the bed like they did with The Division. It's a shame, because For Honor is at least a unique idea for a game, even if the execution is disastrous.
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>>170428036
... am I a lawbringer main now?
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>>170427041
>The most versatile player ever created
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>community order barely misses mark
>they extend it by another 72 hours
>that slow fucking crawl it's making
>yfw they just pad the numbers this time
What's the next community order gonna be? 10,000 takedowns in Skirmish?
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Tfw the
>post fap
>post food
>post sugary intake

feels
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>>170428534
"Community must play a single match of Skirmish without anybody disconnecting".
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>>170428382
>'threw me off a ledge, fucking dishonorable'
>'coming from the guy that threw me off the past two rounds and then left after i countered'
>'you can't even play you fucking scrub'
>'maybe if you weren't tossing me off ledges you'd see your ass handed to you on a silver platter.'
>'yeah right, you are probably some fuckin autistic degenerate who had his parents buy him the game just so he stopped bugging them'
>'i know you are, but what am i'
>'cant even think up a good comeback you fucking idiot'
>'lol imma post this shit on 4chan'
>'as if i give a fuck'
>'this is hilarious to me'
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>>170428463
it was never going to be a huge, long-term hit. it's too unique and it's a fighting game. i just really wonder why they put the population counter in to begin with.

if there's any chance you will want to remove it on patch 1, you shouldn't put it in there to begin with. there's nothing to gain from it when established, big-name FPS games with pop counters will always blow it away.

i think they believed this was going to be much bigger than it is, but that doesn't jive with the 4v4 casual modes being as poorly-balanced and disconnecty as they are

the whole thing is a mystery really
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Don't let your memes be dreams.
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>>170428493
You forgot an obnoxious amount of throws, an enviromental kill and hatemail
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Wait so

you mean to tell me that my internet connection is fine and its just ubisoft servers are shit?
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why does people going on about how LB is good with ledge when Raider and Warlord are clearly better at it?
and maybe Shugoki with that golf swing grab
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>>170428708
Ubisoft knew it would be a quick buck to pump out between Ass Creed and Ghost Recon releases, but the poor fucks who actually developed the game probably thought it was gonna be the next Rainbow Six: Siege and retain a good playerbase of loyal fans while bringing in new blood with free weekends and sales. I hate how transient and temporary all media has become due to the internet and 24 hour news cycle. People just buy, quickly consume, and look for something else to buy and quickly consume.

>>170428775
Could be both, but the servers are fucking broken. The game could have maintained a sizable PC player base if they had just fucking spent the extra money on servers.
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>>170428797
With law its more the speed that he can do it. Thats why you see the webms with like 3-4 people being hurled off while he's in revenge. Raider and Warlord have to go into a long animation for it.

Law just grabs you and shoves you off while screaming LAAAAAAAWW
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>>170428534
>as a community, play whatever you want once or twice
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Its 6AM and i haven't slept

should i just bail and play For Honor in the morning or whenever I wake up or sit here and wait?
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>tfw fucking terrible at the game and cant remember more than 2 moves or do any feints to save my life
>forced to play shugoki and bait retards into oneshot hugs and bat them off ledges to win matches

ain't even mad honestly ive tried everyone and no one is more satisfying than the fat man
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is LEGENDARY better then LB ?
is LEGENDARY getting a buff ?
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>>170428854
wait
always go for waiting
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>>170428534
>Narrowly missed mark while shit was crashing like crazy.
>extend it 72 hours
>it finishes before the next day is over.

Ded gaem
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>>170428327

I AM THE...........AIR
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>>170428893
Both Raider and Law are getting a buff.

I'd say Raider is better since tap feints can actually open people up.
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>>170428893
LEGENDARY is better than LB and super good in the hands of a good player. LB is just shit in 90% of cases and is basically an obese Orochi with more shoving and less everything else.
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>>170428821
i believe it. it's just so hard to imagine that the fact fps games have baseline longevity and popularity would escape them

if they thought free weekends would stabilize the playerbase, they forgot that the game is inaccessible by design. siege has a steep learning curve, but any asshole knows how to move and ads in a shooter.

i think you're totally right but it's just scary how stupid ubisoft is
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>>170428898
wtf happened. As soon as people realized it wouldn't make it at saturday evening it's like everyone just quit. The whole of friday evening generated more than these 3 days
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>>170428898
It hasn't finished yet on xbone.
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>>170428882
You're damn right Mr. Triple.
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>>170429003
>Xbone
>Community

I've found the problem doctor.
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>>170428967
Ubisoft's not stupid, they just don't give a hollow shit about "longevity". All media of every kind now is built around early sales, not longevity. Nobody is out to make classics that retain an audience past the first month. Marketing budgets are sky high in order to convince the slobbering, writhing, subhuman masses to buy something then immediately abandon it to buy the next shiny thing, most likely made by the same publisher.

Ghost Recon: Wildlands is coming out soon, not too long after the release of For Honor. Why do you think that is? It's just because Ubisoft knew For Honor would probably die within a month, so their release schedule for Q1 2017 has Wildlands to bolster their profit margin to impress investors.
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>>170429031
WOAH.

TECHNOLOGY.
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>>170429031
How'd you do that?
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There's nothing worse than PKs with fucking Stands.
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>>170429097
I want to go back in time and change the publisher of For Honor from Ubisoft to any other game company that would greatly extend the life of the game with better servers.

seriously how high were they when they made these server connections.
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>be conq
>shoulder bash heavy attack spam
>slay plebs
>Mfw wow wow wow
Plebs know they can dodge it right?
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>>170429227
No, but they know they can get it nerfed.
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>>170429227
I always catch myself staring at people doing shoves/kicks/bashes instead of dodging them
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>>170429184
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Buff raider
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>>170429207
It's the same "technology" as Siege and they are really desperate to show it off. In about 10 releases down the line I am sure it'll be the amazing revolution they claim it is, but as it stands it just sucks.
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>>170429334
No.
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>>170429227

It's pretty hard to dodge honestly unless you are playing PK or some other pussyfaggot class
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>>170429392
Yes
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Holy shit counter-guard break is easy as fuck on the new patch.

I assume they'll make it more difficult again.
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>>170429462
It's super easy but I still can't do it consistently because I fucking suck.
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Remember, make people never want to touch 4v4 again with BULLYING.
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Every Conq I play against dies in three hits.

So "overpowered" lol

The only ones complaining are Orochi and Reddit.
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>>170429149
1. Move to a different guard stance from your "starting" stance
2. Use attack instantly after the switch
3. Move to a different guard stance from the one in step 2
4. Use attack instantly after the switch

copied from the reddit post
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Talking about the Campaign for a sec here, Apollyon was a bitch to fight on Realistic for me, the PK and Warden the fight starts with are her own personal gank squad and I had stored up 2 Stalwart Banners prior, rolling with Second Wind LV2 and Precision Strikes LV2, while being relatively decent at parrying.
Still killed me several times over and made me glad there was a checkpoint.
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>>170428519
>>170427041
>hiding your username
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>>170429636
You're forgetting top players and their fans that eat their shit up.
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>>170429662
I want Apollyon's armor for a Warden skin.
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>>170429636

what hero do u main my dude i bet you their weakest matchup
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>>170429662
You're meant to store up gas and gas her like the fucking warmongering kike she is, Anon. First phase you don't use any gas and just tough it out, killing her minions then spamming side-dodge-light attacks and chip her down. Second phase you gas her then pummel her with two of your four stashed up gas bombs, third phase you do the same.

She was easier than the other bosses and I only died to her once.

>>170429757
The helmet is fucking hideous, and the rewards for realistic are kind of shit.
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>>170429662
Go for Restore Health and Unblockable attacks feat. Save the 4 poison traps for part 2 and 3 of the fight.

Easy as fuck. The Warden boss was harder.
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Are we sure there are not more armor sets all the way up in rep 20-30?
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>come home from school
>decide to play for honor
>que up for dominion
>find game
>disconnects before I can do anything
>try all the other 4v4 modes, keep on getting kicked
>decide to play duel
>face a light attack spamming peacenigger
>turn off the game
Why even try bros
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>>170429821
>school
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>>170429821
>Queue up for a 4v4 mode at any time of the day
>Spend so long in matchmaking I get a screen telling me "matchmaking failed"

Count your blessings.
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>>170429673
I don't want my friends and family to find out that I use 4chinz
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>>170429821
>come home from school
Fuck off kiddo
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>>170429821

>school
>it's 3am

Get out of here, future man
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>>170429774
Conq lel
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can anyone explain whats going on here?

Do Orochi's get the grab break feat in rank 4?
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>>170430009
Meant college
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QUICK POST YOUR MAIN AND OST THAT GETS YOU HYPE AS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
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>>170430053
Fuck. Off. Kiddo.
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>>170430051
If you're debuff resistance is high enough, you can tech GBs off of parries.
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>>170430030
>Get out of here, future man
everyone I know lives in the same timezone as me the post.
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>>170427041
>comment hero selection menus
What did she mean by that?

Anyway. Play 1-2 match(es) a day and spend the rest of my day judging other anons on /fhg/ :^)
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>>170429227
>Tfw stopped playing Conq after I got him to rep 1 level 18 because EVERYONE dodges my shield bashes and runs away to regen the last bit of health they have, making killing them a huge hassle
I can't finish people off quickly because of this shit, I decided to go with Warlord instead for my shield user
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>>170430112
Barf.

Alright thanks. I figured the first one might have been slow because I was gassed, that 2nd one tho...
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>>170429662
thanks for spoiling it bitch I didn't know apollyon was a bad guy
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>>170430059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrOliVhbBo8
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>>170430051
If you parry someone when they are exhausted they can tech the GB. You just gotta let them fall by themselves. Its stupid and unintuitive but that's how it works.
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>>170429814
I tossed The Warden into a geyser.
it was actually fuckin hilarious the first time through: 'oh god why do i have to fight myself'
*throws self into geyser* 'oh... OH HA! THATS FUCKIN HILARIOUS!'
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>>170430140
Yeah it's pretty fucking retarded.

If I'm not mistaken though, it'll be changed sometime in the future? I read that on here, so not sure if it's reliable information, and even if it is, it's Ubisoft, so don't get your hopes up too much.
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>>170428725
Can we get the full version?

FOR FREEEEE
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UNDISPUTED 100% CORRECT ENVIRONMENTAL KILL RANKINGS

--------------------------------------------------------------

GOD TIER
>spikes

GREAT TIER
>saw blade
>fire

GOOD TIER
>lava

OKAY TIER
>geysers

PLEB TIER
>ledges
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>>170430161
Apollyon only wants war.

of course shes the bad guy.

shes practically fucking medieval Hitler, short of locking up people and gassing them.
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>>170430318
But lava IS a ledge kill.
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>>170430365
but it explodes and fire.


and screaming.
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>>170430325
Hitler at least had better reasoning. Apollyon was just an edgy wannabe-Darwinist with absolutely no long-term planning ability.

>The whole world should be at war forever!
>It's human nature!
>Only the strongest will survive! Muh wolves!

In her ideal world, everyone would just fucking starve to death because apparently the only way for them to survive is to steal from each other.
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>>170430318

>Almost done with the animation of being pushed
>Character makes very slow steps backwards
>JUMPS ONTO THE SPIKES BEHIND HIM
>I'M DEAD UURGH
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>>170430365
Yeah but it's lava and it goes all SPLOOSH so.
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>>170430269
It ain't finished yet, but soon!
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>>170430161

thats not a spoiler... its in the opening cinematic
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>>170430414
Yeah.

Still though, in a world that did not yet have Hitler, she came pretty close IMO.
fuckin world war 0.
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>>170427607
>Go against rep 2 and 3 warden and orochi
>Proceed to lose to guardbreaks and zone attacks mixed with top lights
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>>170430112
>debuff resistance resists guardbreaks
>debuff resistance resists bleed damage

Does Ubisoft actually know what a debuff is?
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>Console patch.
>Peacekeeper now does 1000 damage per hit and never runs out of stamina.
Really bumbles my jumbles.
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>>170430576
You mean the beta is coming back?
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>>170430478
Listening to the Observables in the campaign got so tedious after the Warden campaign. Practically every single one was like this:

>These people think they are good
>But they're not
>Only fighting is good!

Or:

>They were idiots for being honorable
>Only fighting is good

Or

>These people liked fighting
>I like fighting too
>I like these people

Every single fucking one. You don't even really "get" anything for collecting them all, except some insight into Apollyon being an edgy 15 year old who listens to metal.
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>>170430059

>Thunder Force IV

Nigga do you know how fucking hype I was when I rented that back in grade school. Popping that cartridge into the Genesis, unsure of what to expect, and being treated to 16-bit adrenaline was the best fucking way to jumpstart the weekend. Excellent tastes.

>inb4 oldfag
>now I do feel old af

>Raider
https://youtu.be/lFBHSy9M8W8

Warden
https://youtu.be/Zmv4cLKyML8

>Nobushi
https://youtu.be/Gc4cOi3NeWI

>Kensei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UONHPUcJsV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PS0_3wuZrc
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>>170430518
half the "stats" does random shit it doesn't even tell you

im sure even the devs dont know what the stats do
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>Nobushi has a cute turtle already
>Getting a Snibedi snap tommorow
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>>170430612
I'm happy that GBC has been fixed but now PK is ridiculous.

I never had much of a problem with them before - they did seem a little weak - now I just got killed by one in 3 hits and dropped dead of "bleed" despite my health bar not showing bleed.
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>>170429820
Seeing as people are alresady rep 30, we would've heard about it
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Is it worth buying champion status with steel?
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>>170427041
Alright
>>170428519
Hope you don't get AFK farming banned.
>>170430124
Hope you get more time to play video games.
>>
is this the worst fighting system ever
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>>170430894
Nah it's incredibly fun it just needs balancing.
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>>170430853
Game will be dead in a couple of weeks so do whatever you want! You get 50% extra steel, so you'll be getting an extra 10 steel per duel, which is basically fucking nothing. Not sure if it applies to orders.
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>>170430518
It reduces or completely removes DoT flame damage too.
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>>170430853
Definitely not. Just get the free days from the Twitch Prime shit and grind up a character you like.
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>>170430059

Knights in General
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCKyK_c5idM

Samurai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

Vikings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

Lawbringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e056R97svz8
Orochi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j32qVKL0tj4
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>>170430926
Honestly I'd just be happy if they fix the fucking connections already. Games should not regularly be crashing because one faggot decides to rage quit.

I should not group up with my friend and search for a game, just for my friend to be dropped the instant we find one, leaving me to wait until I'm all the way loaded in to back out and regroup up with her.
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>>170431245
>her
Anon pls don't lie on the internet lols
I don't play meme game types, just Brawl or Duel and rarely have connection issues. Sometimes all 3 people will quit in a Brawl at the same time and I assume it's Ubi fuckery though
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>>170431178
>Knights in General

The 10~30 second mark i admit is badass as fuck
>>
Why the fuck are there only "non-vanguard" orders, I'm sick of this shit, I haven't been able to play Vanguard at all yesterday with all the class locked orders and non-vanguard daily.
>>
>I get so many FPS in this game that I need vsync to not fry my gpu
Holy fuck
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>>170431403
There is the occasional vanguard order, but now that you mention it, I haven't seen one since the first few days after launch.
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How do I fight assassins as a Conqueror? I can't feint and all my attacks are telegraphed as shit.
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>>170431457
I have never even completed an order because they're all Elimination and Domination and I can't find a single match in those.

>>170431482
Learn how to feint.
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>>170431457
There are some but the only "non-X" ones are always Vanguard.
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>>170431507
Conquerors can't feint.
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>>170431507
>How do I fight assassins as a Conqueror? I can't feint and all my attacks are telegraphed as shit.
>I can't feint
>Learn how to feint

But he can't.
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>>170431593
You sort of can, but it's not the same. You can cancel an attack by pulling into superior block. I accidentally do it all the time.
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>>170431410
you wait for the FPS drops, not so fun when you're fighting off 2 guys and you get sudden bursts of 15 fps
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>>170431632
>I accidentally do it all the time.
'I was in the kitchen and I kinda slipped and accidentally made this cake.'
That's what you sound like.
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>>170431708
tbf i've done that before
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>>170431367
I've had shit connections ruin brawl matches as well. But regardless, any mode should not REGULARLY be crashing because people quit, or crash the second the game loads.
Also I wasn't lying
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>>170431708
I'm serious. I don't know the exact details, but if you spam attack or pull back into a full block then sometimes Conq cancels his attack. Not sure how exactly it "works". Give it a shot.
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Fuck Ubisoft servers.
>>
This Warden was prestige 5. His reaction out of every GB-->sideheavy I landed on him was to try and dodge, so of course I would GB him again to get the untechable.
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does PK REALLY need to be able to GB after their zone cancel?

they RQ when i won too
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>>170431905
"Grab spam"? You mean that easily-countered thing where you just click a single button to counter it?
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Any tips for a rep 5 Shugoki who's just started learning LAW? I find him useful in 4v4 but can't duel for shit
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>>170431696
Never happened yet
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>>170431905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ
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>>170431968
Shugoki is better for both 1v1s and team based modes
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>>170431968
LAW is fucking useless against semi-competent players. His main power is in grabs, and those are fucking useless. All I can say is to parry, then grab and do a side heavy or top light. That's your only actual ability against someone who isn't brand new or retarded. He has one of the slowest stance-changes in the game so good fucking luck with those parries.
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>>170431905
It always amuses me whenever someone gets mad at me for spamming guard breaks.

>"stop spamming guard breaks, you're so bad!!!"

Like, I wouldn't do it if it didn't work on you, you fucks
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>>170431957

It's not counterable if you were grabbed while you were dodging, which is something that so many people still have yet to grasp.
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>>170432104
why would you not spam something if it worked tho

its usually the most effective way to kill your opponent.
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>>170432104
How do people actually get mad in this game? The only times I get mad in multiplayer games is when somebody is blatantly ruining the game for their own team, or when somebody is blatantly cheating and isn't punished for it. If you lose, it's just an inspiration to try and get better. There's nothing to get mad at.
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>>170432015
>>170432065

zzz are any of the vikings any decent then? I don't wnat to be a PK and I can't seem to get my head around Valk
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>>170431968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXnNpu5M9vg
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>>170432216
Valk is the best viking. Berserker is really solid for duels but requires a great deal of skill to properly use, just like Raider. Warlord is OP but getting nerfed.
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>>170432216
warlord is the best character in the game, and valk is now top 5
>>
>Elimination
>Team has one 108 but otherwise balance is alright
>Purple gear PK on our team immediately starts crying and goes "lets just lose fast ok"
>Leaves 5 seconds in
>We end up actually winning though
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>>170429278
Its already confirmed by devs that conqu will get the nerf stick. It's just a matter of time.
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>>170432216
Warlord is straight forward and one of the best characters in the game.
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>>170432269
>great deal of skill
>raider
I don't recall those two ever being in a sentence together.
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>>170432348
To play properly against good players in duels you have to be fast and smart.
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>>170432348
Are you
Like
Unironically
Buttmad about Raiders?
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>>170432192
I get fairly made when people are abusing beyond broken tactics, even when they lose it's still just annoying that these tactics could have helped them win.
>Playing elimination
>It's the tie breaker round
>My friend and I are the last ones alive on our team, the enemy team just has one Warlord
>We chase the Warlord until he goes onto a broken bridge, waiting at the ledge
>He sets down a bear trap right in the center, no way to go around it
>Tell my friend to just wait him out, we'll end up getting the win if he doesn't leave the ledge
>Warlord taunts trying to get us to come to him
>We don't go to him
>He spends the rest of the game taunting until the time runs out and he loses the game for his team, all because he was too afraid to actually fight
This shit is pathetic and it gets me mad knowing he's probably won games before abusing this broken tactic
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>Try to cancel PK's GB
>She hit me once, cause bleed and only then my character cancel
What the actual fuck
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>>170432186
My point exactly. I'm not going to put in extra effort to kill a shitter by doing complicated shit, I'm just gonna spam guard breaks, and if it works that's on them for not being able to counter something so easy to counter.

>>170432192
Most of the people that play the game are children who usually have things handed to them, so they expect to get free wins, too.

And when it doesn't go their way, they get mad, instead of doing something about it.
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>>170432301
Oh shit what was the PKs name? I had some PK cunt do something incredibly similar.

>Drop into a game late
>Looks like the game just started up, scores super low
>Rollin' with fats
[Team]"Your stupid"
>Wait, what
>Ask why we're stupid
Apparently we were letting them have points.
>Shit talk the PK for being bad because she was on the bottom of the scoreboard.
>She leaves.
>We start winning
>We win.
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>>170432065
Lawbringer is absolutely garbage because he has no tools to get in. Shove comes out too slow, doesn't have enough options, and is too predictable. Long Arm is also too slow, also doesn't have enough options, and is also too predictable. He needs speed buffs on his heavy attacks to make his combos more deadly and he needs more options off of Shove and Long Arm to keep mixups good. Anything else would just make him broken, but if they make his heavies three frames faster, give him a little bit more off of his unblockables, and fix the guard time shit he would be viable. I think armored heavies would be cool too, able to absorb lights but not heavies, would give him something to do in the assassin matchups other than just turtling for a parry.
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>>170432437
If I ever meet a magic gradpa grating me a single wish. It would be for people to stop using the word like in this retarded context.
>>
How do you beat conqs in general?
What can you do to punish them other than risk parrying a charged attack?
Can you actually do an untechable GB when dodging a shield bash? It doesn't seem to work, only classes with side dash attacks seem to be able to reliably punish a shield bash.
>>
>>170432741
Conqueror is good because of his relatively safe offense. Look for flail charges, when they're doing that go in, not out. They can't tech GB if they're flailing so it's a free grab. A good Conqueror will wait for you to fuck up first, so if you get in and keep your defense strong while dodging his shield bashes you can take control of the match.
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*gently pokes you*

SNIPPITY SNAB >:3
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>>170432906
Turtle is cuter.
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>>170430059

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heDBX-HCMDA
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is there anything in the game that valkyrie doesn't have? i can understand that she's a hybrid but having every feature in the game is a bit silly
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>>170432492
It's not a counter.
She fucked up the stab timing.
>>
Welp, that felt pretty fucking slick.

>ended up running it back to win the game too.

Has anyone had good luck with backstep slashes on Law? I remember wanting to use them on Raider, but he simply didn't have the range to make them practical.
>>
I think Valk comes at quite a decent 6th place in terms of balance. Warlord, PK, Conqueror, Warden and Shugoki, in that order. Shugoki that just run around and either do their sprint thing that knock you down or GB are hard to beat especially when you're out of stamina so much from the headbutt.
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>>170433119
I've had a few, but nothing that crunched for the kill like that. It's nice when you get to take advantage of LB's range with shit like that. Memers who talk about how he has no range can fuck off.
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>tfw you're half asleep as the law but the law never sleeps so you kick your opponent's ass anyway
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>Nobushi's heavy breathing in exhaustion mode

SUGOI
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>>170433378
Come on now LB meme-running someone off an edge is hardly kicking ass.
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>>170433075
god tier taste anon
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>>170433469
it is if you tactical roll right before it
>>
I have 15000 steel and I already brought the weeb flower bundle. What do I even spend this shit on? A month of champ status?
>>
>>170429636
haha what Conq is easy as fuck when playing as Orochi
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>>170433558
>weeb flower bundle
You save it to buy the ninja when he comes out, you know you want to.
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>>170426691
weebs are your friends
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>>170433331
That spear is my only gripe with lb. Not even how good it is, it's just that it magnitizes characters to it
>>
>>170433121
I'd put Shugouki above Warden, but yeah that seems about right. Her chains are insane now and her mixup potential is so good.
>>
>>170433469
This right here >>170433553

And besides, I'm killing them normally
>>
>>170433674
It always hits your left, if you guard left it'll never hit you.
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>>170433714
I wouldn't*
>>170433674
>Lawbringer
>good
Jesus dude, how many hours do you have?
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>>170430468
oh, thanks very much anon, you really didn't have to spoil the WHOLE game. Anything more to spoil?
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>>170430628
But what about the one that tells you about the different factions gods or the one that tells you about the centurions or the ones that tell you about how the different factions have effected each others culture and warfare or-
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>>170433761
Wait really? I thought the only way to block it was full guard or just rolling
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>>170432906

fuck crab

fuck turtle
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>>170433841
Those still boil down to what I said ultimately.
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>>170433881
Who the fuck is that final fantasy looking ass rat
>>
>>170433931

literally a final fantasy rat
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>>170433331
thats probably my favorite thing whenever im fighting as lawbringer, people actually have the balls to delock for a second and expose themselves to potential impales.

its kind of brutal though, its so easy to spot and parry into straight exhausted

>>170430059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PzP7REU2o0
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>>170432301
>join a dominion mid game
>we are losing
>some mongrel Lawbringer tells the team that we suck
>ask him to neck himself
>he literally starts crying
>he goes alone, never tries to cap points and just keeps getting ganked
>whines the rest of the game and points out everyones death
>it's a close game with only some 100 points difference in the end
>afterwards he acts smug and says "told you so" and leaves
>>
>fight with a friend order
>implying
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>>170434037
Patrician taste.

Tfw grinding mmos like a montage to this shit. Motha fuckin good times.
>>
these orders are pissing me off, wish there was enough to just do the mode you actually like playing and never have to do the 4v4 shit for ubishekels
>>
>>170434258
ENJOYIN YOUR MEME GAMETYPES SON!??!
>>
>>170433862
No, rolling doesn't always seem to work.

Blocking left does, and it's incredibly easy to parry, as well.
>>
>>170434258
It's not that I don't like any modes, I just hate the amount of matches you have to play to finish them all. Especially AI orders, fuck AI orders.
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>>170434171
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ok which one of you meme loving fucks told me champion status gives bonus steel ???

IT FUCKEN DOES NOT
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>>170434574
gotcha ;)
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>>170434574
I'm gonna FUCK christfag-chan
>>
>>170432741

Learn to sidedodge. His fastest aka most threatening move is to dodgebash you, the shieldbash that looks like a shoulderbash that comes out from neutral really fast. Sidedodge it and you're free to punish him if your attacks have any speed whatsoever.

>mfw there are legitimately people on >>>>>>>reddit complaining that dodgeattacks can't punish dodgebash because they're "too slow"

niggas a fucking shugoki can sometimes punish me with a light if they dodge me

He can be hit with an attack while bashing. You'll get bashed, but all you'll lose is a tiny bit of stamina, and he'll be knocked back as well, and take real HP damage.

For maximum mindgames, you can, if you predict his rhythm, untechable-GB him out of the dodge part of the dodgebash preemptively.
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>>170434574
Shut the fuck up and buy more steel you cute ass bitch.
>>
>>170434669
hard to dodge when you get a map that literally doesn't give you room to do so
>>
>>170426691
When does the top heavy of Warden connect after you slam someone against the environment? Sometimes they manage to block it even if I release it as soon as I can.
>>
>>170434856
sometimes you will be stuck in a left right stance and switching to top stance will take a while and you won't be able to followup with it properly, otherwise it should work every time
>>
>>170434574
Read the champion status' description, idiot.

You deserved it to be fooled
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I found one (1) Elim match today and have gotten this prompt 5 times in a row now. What do?
>>
>>170434814

It's true that the conqueror has an infinite in a corner until they run out of stamina, but if you let a Conqueror get you into a corner you deserve everything you get.
>>
>>170434920
You get better internet that is what you should do. :^)
>>
Try closing the application and starting it back up.

I don't know if it'll work, but just try it anyway.
>>
>>170434920
Stop trying to play Ubishit games.
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>>170434574
You silly fuck, thank you for the giggle.
>>
>>170434990
meant to reply to >>170434920
fuck this i cant stay awake
>>
Does Warden get a free gb after a heavy parry? I only know that he gets an unblockable overhead when you parry a light.
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>>170435094
Against all non-long range classes you get a free GB after any parry.
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some day ill have fun with this game
some day

i secretly have an urge for this game to die even though i play it, everything about balance, p2p and matchmaking is so garbage
>>
>>170435112
Nerf lawbringer.
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>>170435094
yes, if they are too far away however you will whiff

in that situation i advise doing a shoulder bash and starting el vortex
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>execute an orochi in duel, first round
>they leave
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>>170435160
Dedicated servers sure won't give the player that live closer to the servers an advantage! Dedicated servers sure won't stop the crashing issues which are Uplays fault!
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>>170435226
post more brown animes

>>170435172
same
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>>170433881
>>170432906
The only acceptable ornament choice. Plebs need not apply.
>>
Why is The Shard the only good Duel map and why is it because it's the only map with actual spaces to fight rather than shitty corridors?
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>>170434574
It does if you buy the one year champion status. Go buy that one!
>>
>>170433114
Well, ok fuckfuckfuck
>>
>>170435314
You spelled Cathedral wrong.
>>
>playing vs a warlord
>ruining him
>ledges exist

im glad that on top of having impenetrable defence (even when played by a retard) he can still abuse any environment in sight
>>
>>170435209
>vortex
I prefer the against the wall out of stamina rape.
>>
>>170435567
Nobody is disputing that he's the single best character in the game right now or anything.
>>
Who's the best waifu for a Warden?
>>
Doing a charged Shuggie r2 againts someone who is busy fighting someone else is way too fun
>>
>>170435664
Peacekeeper obviously
>>
>PC event is still not done
This is beyond pathetic
>>
>>170435664
fem conq

>>170435698
you're wrong because PK is a shit
>>
>>170435664
As a warden main I can say that Nobushi is our top tier waifu.
>>
>>170435698
Peacekeeper belongs to the barbarians.
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>>170435791
This tbqh.

I'll give that eastern ass her first taste of the longsword.
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>>170435664
nobushi, always
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Can someone confirm that unblockables cannot be deflected or crushing countered?
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>>170435290

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sPNZ8QHO4
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>>170435664
But anon, Warden IS the Waifu.
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>>170435941
>crowbat
Come on now, dude.
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>>170436046
She got a unibrown lmao. Cute.
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>>170435698
Peacekeeper isn't waifu material, she's a cum dump to be enslaved and mind broken. To bear a horde of half-breed children.
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>>170434958
>just play high tier!

sound advice
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Is there anything a shugoki can do in a 1v2 when there's no ledges nearby?
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I feel completely helpless in duels as Lawbringer

This guy is only fun in 4v4
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>>170436340
Wow, it's almost like he's the worst character in the game and Ubisoft doesn't know how to balance or something. Siege is and has been the same way for almost a year and a half.
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>>170435891
>>170435895
What would Warden and Nobu's cute hapa daughter wield in battle?
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>>170427453
>Remember to throw in some actual heavy attacks along with the feints, to keep the berserker guessing.

Don't do that, Berserker parries really hurt. If he stops dodging on your feints, simply feint into overhead light and start your vortex or do the zone attack.

People have this idea that throwing out heavies when you've conditioned your opponent to do something with feints will keep them honest, but heavies are too slow and it won't really help you unless you're getting GB'd on feint.

Don't do naked heavies unless it's a 2-hit chain and you're whiffing the first one on purpose to bait out a knee-jerk whiff punish.
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>>170436051
>??
Are you implying he fabricated all of the problems?
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>remove hyper armor from the shove
>get a guaranteed gb if the shove connects
>shove can be feinted
There, I fixed LB
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>>170436558
rapier
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>>170436291
murder the 2 effortlessly
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>>170436601
>There, I turned LB into Warden
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What to do after parrying as Nobushi?
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>>170436558
She's learn the ways of the western polearm from uncle lawbringer
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do i also have to have my guard in the attacks direction to land a deflect or can i just dodge into it regardless of where my own indicator is
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>tfw 9 rep1 characters and they all have blue gear
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Starting Kensei, any tips from experienced players?
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>>170436721
>implying that warden isn't at the optimal powerlevel for this game
Everyone should have mixup option, like the warden, that would punish tutrtling faggots.
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>>170436594
He sure does exacerbate anything for views. And as the p2p is now in For Honor isn't the traditional p2p where there is only one host.
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>>170436756
if ya gnome sayin
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>>170436706
how tho

I seriously don't know what to do. All it takes is one of them to spam guardbreak and I'm fucked.
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>>170436975
Blind+unblockable
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>>170436805
for the love of god don't start a fight with 3 overhead heavies

learn to parry

Ken-sama can side dash + light like an assassin
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>>170426691
How do you deal with a raider who sometimes side heavies, sometimes cancels it into top light? I physically dont have the reaction time to block the top light because he can cancel the heavy at any point during its animation
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>tfw the only people still playing the game all know how to parry

Welp this boring. Nobody does anything.
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>>170436836
So what kind of source would you like to show how poorly the p2p service is doing?
>not traditional p2p
You're right. For honor p2p is the most piss poor way I have ever seen it used
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>>170436781
>tfw 9 characters that will get stomped by anyone rep 3 or higher
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>>170437081
Yeah all his chains seem really fucking slow
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fighting conq as warden is like, the worst experience ever

you go for a shoulder bash, he dodges into shield bash and you lose double stamina and some hp

you go for a shoulder bash, he goes for a shoulder bash, you feint your initial shoulder bash, dodge his shoulder bash into your own shoulder bash and you hit him, do half a bar if you're lucky at the cost of your full stamina meter

if he catches on, you lose all your stamina

what DO?
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>>170435791
>>170435891
>>170435895

How can I seduce a Nobushi waifu? Whenever I try she kicks me in the face and stabs me.

It never bothers me because I have thick blood and at first I thought she was just being tsundere but lately I've seen her running around with that Orochi faggot.

Help me claim my waifu, /fhg/
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so I'm a TO for a FGC local event we throw weekly. Not gonna say where or what stream it's on but mainly I focus SFV and Guilty Gear. I've noticed a HUGE increase in this game wanting to go FGC status for sure.

That being said a couple things ubisoft needs to do to make this EVO worthy

1. Patch in a LAN option

This is a no-brainer, in order to make this game a proper fighting game, it needs offline play. It'll remove lag inputs etc.

2. Balancing Issues

Now, For Honor in duel/brawl mode is a definite fighting game. It has cancels, mixups, throws, techs, even unblock ables and command grabs (see shugoki). This being said, after watching a week of tournaments it's obvious that some characters framedata needs to be redone

Peacekeepers + on block gives her WAY to many recovery frames WAY to fast. One mistake as a kensei or Shugoki with a light and she can just dodge > 3 hit combo(2 of those hits are FREE if the PK knows how). The Warlord headbutt recovery and framedata is way way way too + on block. This feels like a spamming session of headbutt >light creating the "vortex" effect if you will. Unlike shugoki who's demons ebrace or charge is a SUPER penalty for attempting if not done right, certain characters get benefits for using such techs. Conqueror feels spam have as well, allowing too much zoning of characters with his smash >light or his grab. Permanently Turtling should not be a good thing but punishable. The list goes on.

3. Ubisoft & P2P

Now most fighting games use this style and it's fucking GARBAGE. It's ruined SFV and causes most people to either quit or just go to locals, sadly For Honor does not allow this. Ubisoft has never made a Fighting Game before so as their first attempt it's good but this is ubisoft, they are well known for fucking up royally with the community(see The Division) be wary of what is being spammed on their forums because it's known that Ubishills will whine and ruin the overall experience for others
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it's been real
it's been nice
but it hasn't been real nice
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>>170437081
Side dash + light can be punished by a free guard break that you cant tech if they block it.
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>>170437208
remember he can use lights and finish with a heavy for the damage + unblockable/uninterruptible. in a light - light -heavy combo (I forget what it's called) the initial light is pretty slow, but the second is blindingly fast.

He is also really reliant on his combos so you may have trouble against characters with shields that can disrupt a combo by just blocking, not even parrying.
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>>170437364
see you in a week
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>>170437024
The unblockable takes too long, I'm not going to land that if one of them is spamming light attacks.
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>>170437290
Just look at the roach fag with a mean look and he will run away >>170433085
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>>170437198
>Actually being that shit
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>>170437372
>Side dash + light can be punished by a free guard break that you cant tech if they block it.

True, I don't often use it, but it can catch people off guard.
>>170436805
On a related note, his dash forward into a GB is useful, but if your opponent expects this, you can end up dashing into your opponents GB.
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>>170437559

Okay it worked, but now she's stabbing me and screeching in japanese.

What do?
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>>170433085
Where is he going? There is no way out in a 2v2!
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as parting gifts, some PK removal
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>>170433085
To be completely fair you had near full health and he was one hit from dead. If I was in that situation I'd run off to regen my health as well
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>>170437254
Cancel the bash into GB every single time to catch him on the dodge. Once he starts respecting your option to grab, you can start mixing in your standard bashes. It's not like he has a dodge attack, right? I mean Conq dodge into shield bash has to be too slow to prevent you from immediately cancelling your bash into a grab by mashing your GB button. Or am I wrong here?
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>>170437689
say she is kawaii~~

TL note: kawaii means cute
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>>170437612
Please, anon, tell me of all the times you beat those rep 9 Orochis 1v1 when they pop revenge when they get to half health and can endlessly mash light attacks with no punishment.
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>>170437350
>pretends to be a TO
>doesn't know what input lag is
>thinks there's such a thing as a non P2P fighting game
>completely misuses pretty much all fighting game terminology
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>>170437714
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>>170437756
he didn't stop, he kept running around the tower
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>>170437765

She looked a little embarrassed then kicked me in the face.

I think I'm breaking through.
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>>170437714
>>170437828
Why you gotta be mean to us little Peacekeepers?
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>>170437852
Well your webm didn't show that part, my bad
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I don't get to play a ton so I just got my Valk to prestige 3.

Who should I play now?
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>>170437828
>>170437910

but also some PK love
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>>170437782
I beat plenty max gear people when it stays 1v1
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>>170434574

>i can't read the description myself
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>>170427415
>>170429321
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>>170437908
GOOD, good, don't stop now!
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>>170437908
Tell her your kekiku is to make an honest anime out of her.

Translators note: Kekiku means plane, Anime means cartoon but for nips
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>>170437782
>actually literally unironically factually having trouble with orochi

lmao
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>>170427141
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>>170438186
>winning a fight where you're just allowed to raw revenge then raw attack

wow really good job beating up a blind invalid retarded
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>full darkness set is 15k
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>>170438261
>PK
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>>170438135

That made her finally lower her pokestick. Lawbro might want to examine this thing, it actually has range.

We're going to go and talk about our future now, thanks anon!

t. a Warden and his rightful Waifu
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>>170438261
why you bein cry?
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>>170438314
>playing PK means you know basic mechanics like blocking, parrying, GB or not just standing still and letting yourself get hit in the face
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>order for AI dominion shit
>try to search for game
>Get 3 games of AFK niggers in a row, report all of them each time
>then two games of 4x lvl3 bots against sub rep 1 guys

Yeh, nah, fuck this.
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>>170437815
>pretends to be a TO
Except I am one, I'm just not stupid enough to post my information on a Korean loli imageboard anon

>doesn't know what input lag is
You think because Ubisoft never announce whether this game is 1 second or 8 second input delay that their isn't one? You're an idiot then anon

>thinks there's such a thing as a non P2P fighting game

Never implied it nor stated it but it's a major fucking issue in all fighting games no matter how autistic you try to play it off. Also, not an argument

>completely misuses pretty much all fighting game terminology

What is Mixups? What is DP? What is shimmy? What is Vortex? What is Crossup? What is + and - on block? What is Frame data? What is 50/50? What is Teching? The list goes on and on, what's your gamer creditentials cuck?
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>>170438319
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There is no one cooler and more honorable than my dad
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>>170438392
Just turn off matchmaking and play it with bots.
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>[BOT]Vicang
>ViCang
>ViKang
They're evolving
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>>170438414

Nobody cares about your smash club at the local community college or whatever.
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>>170438451
Kensei are pretty cool. I really enjoy fighting them as a Warden. It really feels like it comes down to reading your opponent and guessing/performing mixups. If both players have solid fundamentals the duels are really exciting.
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is LAWW the most boring character?
it went on for 40 more seconds like this until i helped
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>>170438414
you seem upset
is everything O.K.?
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>Guy gets mad at me for "spamming" with vortexes as Warden
>Stands near edges
>Beat him anyway
>He says this after I tell him it's rich that he bitches about "spamming" combos when all he does is stand by ledges

I wasn't even mad. I didn't even complain when he ledged me. I just pointed out that you can't really bitch about "spamming" when your entire method of play is getting salty and standing at ledges trying to bait throws because you can't dodge to the side and use light attacks. Anyway, I beat him more than he beat me.

If you are in this thread, hi!
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>>170426691
Post characters. Suggest improvements.
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>>170438542
that's what you get when you are in no danger of being hit by anything LB does
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>>170438461
Guess I have to.

Shame you get like, a quarter of the XP with matchmaking off compared to what you get with matchmaking on.
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>>170438451
Mr Anime is a pretty cool guy
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>>170438660
What level do you unlock the crosses?
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>>170438837
You unlock them at level preorder
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>>170438414
> Never implied it nor stated it but it's a major fucking issue in all fighting games no matter how autistic you try to play it off.

It's literally the only way to make them playable and fair. Dedicated servers suck for fighting games.

For Honor has decent netcode for when everything is running fine, but it can't fucking handle disconnections.

Ubisoft dropped the ball, but not in a way most non-FGC people think they did.
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>>170438774
Dick move but funny.
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I have refunded this game because the anti-fun defensive meta ruined it.
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I'LL GET MY UNIQUE WEAPON PARTS ANY DAY NOW

IM ONLY REP 8
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>8 takedowns before you die in pvp skirmish
How is this shit even posible if youre not a high GS?
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>>170438605
Use a bucket helm instead. They look cooler.
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>>170438923
I thought so
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>>170430059
Warden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Awpo0o8C_g

Lawbringer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-LtLDcwVEw

Berserker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E72zNSW7ID8

Kensei: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXa3mrskilQ

Orochi: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pv1uy
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>>170438946
Assists don't count so it's basically not possible if everyone is trying for it
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I'm just now seeing webms and videos of a trippy Kensei zone tech that makes it look viable in a duel.

How do you do it? I've heard you're supposed to unlock and turn either hard left or hard right then let out the zone.
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Is it me or is the game dying already? I'm worried
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If you unironically play anything but Knights, you're an edgemaster.
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>>170437470
maybe, but doubt it
back to Rimworld and Escape from Tarkov
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>>170439062
>>170431178
>says post your main
>posts 10
>not a single one isn't cringe
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>>170439138
had rear, the first attack hits directly behind then feint the second hit
still not very useful but it looks pretty fuckin cool
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>>170439142
It started dying like 4 days after release. They don't even show you the total population anymore
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What is considered a good player K/D in this game? like the tracker version, not the ingame KDA.
>b-but stats don't matter anon
>Stop ruining others fun
Relax, I'm not a tryhard, I just want to have a rough idea is all.
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>>170439142
>>170439235
They also had to extend the community event by like 3 days due to not having enough players+disconnects.
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>>170439093
>Assists don't count
Fuck
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>>170439185
>not having a different main for every game mode
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>>170439351
Yeah, not worth attempting because of that imo.

Unless you have 3 friends you can run with who are good enough to feed you kills and let you get the final hit
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>>170438876
Fair points but the fact that P2P is so vulnerable and lag switches can be a thing is an issue. Also it allows for lag input errors to happen. Not saying dedicated doesn't but something has too give you know? Regardless we need a LAN/Offline mode ASAP. If you guys are on the forums then I highly recommend spamming ubisoft with a offline/LAN option patch.
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>>170435741
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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>>170439185
>he cringes at hearing the song of Mio Cid
YOU ARE NO KNIGHT
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>>170439193
So turn 180 and do it?
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So does anyone know what the centurion weapons will be?

Please be a Gladius and a tower shield, I will cum buckets if that's the case
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>>170435314
Harder to get enviro kills there compared to pretty much every other duel map
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>>170439591

Caestus.
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Post them emblems.
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>AI Skirmish order
Haha fuck you Ubi
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>>170439687
pls no not another light spam character
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>>170439724
Pretty sure that's going to be the ninja.
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>>170439687
>a fist weapon

W-what? N-no pls. He's a fucking CENTURION what in the fuck Ubisoft. You better be joking
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>>170439823
How would you make him feel distinct to the Warlord if you gave him a gladius and scutum?
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>>170439687
>Roman Centurion
>Not a Gladius and a Tower Shield
>A fucking meme dark souls weapon

This is a fucking troll I refuse to believe this man's lies
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How would you buff Lawbringer and Raider?
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>>170439973
I'd make them cute boys
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>>170439973
Reduce Raider's zone attack stamina cost by 80%.
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>>170426691
Why the fuck aren't you invincible in execution?
>kill someone
>on half hp
>start LB back breaker execution
>orochi fucking takes away 50% of my HP and kills me in my execution
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>>170440064
lol no

the raider unblockable spam is bad enough as it is
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>>170440064
This and reduce the stupid stance change time. For Nobu too, this is honestly a stupid mechanic.
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>>170439973
give lawbringer warlord's heavys
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>>170440064
I've noticed that LB's running impale takes away half his stamina and almost instantly gets exhausted if it's parried.
>>170440010
Good idea.
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>>170439919
Roman Centurions never fought like vikings. In fact, Vikings used Tseduo tactics during their fights as noted by a French Scholar in the 11th century during the French battles.

Roman Centurions and soldiers used tower shields as walls. Most soldiers used large Oval shaped shields rather then the full tower shield as it was very hard to adjust mobility for. What the Tower Shield did was allow massive deflection after blows. When a row of Roman Tower Shield Soldiers would be placed they would hold the shield to the ground and brace it for oncoming charges. Once they belayed the initial charge they would then flip the shields upwards to knock the enemy back and thrust forward with the gladius then reposition themselves as a wall again

Warlord would fight differently from a Centurion in general BUT this is Ubishit so they could fuck this up
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>>170440143
>spam

Let me guess, you main PK and you have 10 hours in the game, and think you have it all figured out. Tied with Lb, arguably better or worse than him, raider is the worst character in the game. How the fuck do you go thinking one of the slowest attacks in the game can be "spammed". How the fuck do you go about thinking an atttack that drains your stamina in 3 hits can be "spammed". You're a fucking retard.
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>>170440140
Don't execute when getting ganked then
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>>170440140
Because they are a high-risk action that restores health, and should not be taken in combat situations.
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>>170437782
>can endlessly mash light attacks with no punishment.

Just because you're revenged doesn't mean you can't be parried. Because you can.
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>>170440143
You see it coming a mile away. It's impossible to spam
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>>170440143
The only thing it has going for it is reach. It's slow and obvious as fuck, you can dodge left, right, or back to get away from it. You can parry it. He does it 3 times and he's exhausted. Fuck off retard.
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>>170440143
ahah holy shit
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>>170440237

>Be Raider
>1v2, I'm the last one left
>End up killing both with mixups that ended with the unblockable
>PK in chat: can only do one attack lol
Yeah and why would I need more when it works
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>>170440343
It's also impossible to spam a move that takes like 5 seconds to come out
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Dead game
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>>170439184
>back to Rimworld
Are you me?
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>Doing elimination for order.
>Enemy raider says I'm sorry in chat
>Proceeds to spend the entire game running around trying to get unexpected charges off cliffs.

Which one of you fucks was this.
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>>170440756
What are you hoping to accomplish by this post?

>>170440819
>Which one of you LEGENDARY fucks was this.
FTFY
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>>170440819

Literally everyone playing Raider in Elimination does this.
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>>170440756
kys
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>>170440798
tryin the Mars mod, and holy fuck thats somethin else
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>Playing Conq against a guy
>Do my shield bash and a heavy
>Every time I do this he is outside of my range

How was this happening? I have never seen it before ever. Playing as and against Conquerors and watching them play, I have never seen that happen consistently: the person who gets bashed getting pushed so far back that they can't be hit by the heavy follow up.
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>>170430059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiwBe8GX-HU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RtSOK2p61s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc0mH-dBMr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSkb0kDacjs
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>>170438945
>Not getting them from after-game drops
>Having shit luck
Why even live, anon?
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>>170441293
Its not fair
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>>170441283
>being underage
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>>170430059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0A9aEOt4MM

JINJYO NI SHOUBU.
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>>170441370
>having shit taste
>>
LEAVE PENALTY WHEN??
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Is that the power of AFK farming? Why are high prestige dudes such scrubs?

And then I switched to my prestige 2 warden and 3-0 him again.
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>>170429184
>Assassin's Creed symbol on tabard
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my collage is finished, fhg
i hope ya rike it
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>>170441459
Probably thursday with the live patch.
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it's a "player gets mad in skirmish mode because people aren't fighting him 1v1" episode!

man, i sure wish there were a gamemode that somehow garanteed a 1v1, like a "duel" of some sorts, where you would be certain that no matter what you will always be fighting 1v1. Oh well, guess I'll just have to stick with 4v4 and spend the entire game complaining in the chat about people that don't follow my set of rules.
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>>170441546
Duel stages suck tho
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>>170441401
>posting the im 16 and just discovered /mu/ starter pack
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>>170440756
Leave this thread
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>>170430414
She wanted people to "acknowledge what they truly are." The idea of knights, vikings and samurai coming to a peace accord was absolutely horrific, and to see them succumb to weakness in times of peace was abhorrent to her. Apollyon instigated war because she believes war is peace.
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>>170441493
>Lewdkeeper: Ahn no!
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>>170441546
>mfw players get mad at ledging
>mfw players get mad at other environmental kills
>mfw players get mad at fire flask
>mfw players get mad when I revenge during a 1v1
>mfw players get mad for me not only using heavy attacks and blocking
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historical maps dlc wen
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>>170430414
I don't think she had any longterm plans, unless you count "let's all kill each other for all eternity", that's basically her whole shtick.
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>this is your waifu
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>>170441827
Will the centurion bring a coliseum?
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>>170441485
Peacekeepers are assassins tho
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>>170441735
That's why she constantly went on about her wolves and sheep schtick. The only people she valued were those who were in it for themselves, who would kill and betray even her to get what she wants. It's why she's so proud of Holden Cross when he leaves her to join the Warden and his reformed Iron Legion to kick her ass.
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>>170440756
Fuck off Craig, go back to /wtg/ and play with your aspie friends.
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>>170441493
>literally only like 5 people reposted over and over
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>>170439467
Yeah, offline/LAN is a must. Especially since people are already running $1000 tournaments... on the fucking PC. I'm kind of curious how many "high-level" players are currently using macros for kara-cancels (think perfectly timed Warden side light into zone attack into top light) and feinting their parry attempts.
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>>170441901
The whole point of fetishizing masks is that they hide the person underneath.
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>>170440756
MOOOOM I POSTED IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Orochi removal time.
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>>170434669
>He can be hit with an attack while bashing.
are you retarded? shieldbash has full blockframes unless the conq gets hit at the end of his dash
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>>170442164
>letting up heavy hit you EVER
Doing god's work. Cull the retarded.
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>>170437350
To be fair, the main point the SRK article makes against For Honor is that the only thing that prevents it from becoming true FGC potential is local offline multiplayer.
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>Try out different characters
>Nothing feels as fun as Kensei
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>>170442164
>two shit tiers swinging like retards at each other
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>>170441901
ayy
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>>170430059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iid9h3WvDtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsmJMky7ys
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>>170442252
>if only everyone was a warlord and headbutted/turtled
>if only everyone was a PK who spammed light attacks
>if only everyone was a warden doing constant shoulder bashes, GBs, and lights
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>>170442234
I never understood you until I tried him myself. God, kensei x kensei mirrors just make me moist. True 4D chess.
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>finally unlock gold paint on my armour
>it doesnt even match the rare weapon's gold

well what's the point then
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>>170442252
cool contribution to the thread
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>>170442341
Neither of the players in that webm would have done damage against any decent player playing literally any other character.
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>>170442341
>tfw really try my hardest not to spam light attacks or use zone as PK
>Instead rely on feints and deflects which is how she should be played
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>>170442367
the gold on weapons is bright as fuck and hidious I dont get why people buy steel to get them
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>>170442454
This. Polished steel looks way better.
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>>170442441
Look at this deluded PK player and laugh.
>im not like those other PKs... i have skill guise
No, fuck you, you're playing on easy mode and you know it.
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>no duel orders again
Fuck you Ubi
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>>170428727
How did you know I've been sending death threats to the developer for not fixing LB?
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>>170442550
I feel your pain. I won't play the worst modes even for steel.
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>>170437687
>On a related note
if you dash forward to an attack while blocking at the right time (the timing is a lil bit like parrying, just with dashing instead of pressing heavy attack) you get a guaranteed gb since the enemy will be on his recovery animation after the block
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>>170442550
No one is forcing you to do the orders.
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>>170436601
That's cancer
>LB gets free shove and in turn a free GB on block
>the GB>heavy >shove "combo" goes from being a tool that's only useful for clubbing seals to actually overpowered bullshit. He can enter this previously teachable but now inescapable whirlwind of bullshit on block.

This is the fifth time I've seen this suggested. Are Warlord mains afraid of losing their easy mode with the impending Warlord nerfs? Are they conspiring to build support to buff another class to easy mode so that continue face rolling?
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>>170442252

Well, how else would I fight? Ain't got a lot of options as a Berserker except autistically swapping guard along with feints and slinging out lights, hoping that they don't parry.
Ever since some Orochi person made a video on how to easily punish anything a Berserker does ever by using the anime-dash into double-top light for free if you miss/don't feint literally any attack in your entire arsenal they all basically try to do it instantly. I was baiting for it. Him eating a top heavy was dumb, but yeah.

It's a webm. It's for fun. Don't overthink it, yo.
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Okay, I just experienced that stance change no knockdown bug with assassins and lost a round because of it. I hope they overreact and nerf PKs into oblivion for their crimes against humanity,
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>>170442707
0.00001 cents have been deposited into your account
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>>170441901
Have you played the campaign? You only see her eyes in the game if we don't count the video in the end and you can tell that she's a qt.
i.e. a part of a face exposed is okay if it's not ugly like pk's is.
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>>170442418

because neither player would even have attacked if both of them were 'decent players'
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>>170442807
>Ain't got a lot of options as a Berserker except autistically swapping guard along with feints and slinging out lights, hoping that they don't parry.

So play someone else if you don't like the playstyle
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>>170442164
>top heavy actually landing
He was even just guarding top
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>>170442827
>I hope they overreact and nerf PKs into oblivion for their crimes against humanity,
That isn't enough. Each PK player should be dragged out of their house at around 3 am, put on their knees, and have one put behind their ear.
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>>170442827
PKs are over tuned cockroaches with bugs that favor them
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>>170442853
Was talking about Ayu here.
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>>170442861
found the blast at parties
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>>170442861
>neither of those are decent players
>well, per this class against that class, I have to do X
>no, you're doing it wrong, you're only supposed to play WL/PK/warden/conq. you're having badwrong fun.
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>>170442550
For what it's worth, the dev stream yesterday said that to encourage people to stay and finish games and not fuck up connectivity, Ubisoft will discontinue all orders that require you to WIN matches. There will just be completion orders.
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>>170442951
I'd say the same to someone at a party who showed me a webm of them being bad at video games while looking for positive affirmation
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>Everyone in this general is either a "le top memer xD" or complainshitter

I've given up hope of finding somewhere to actually discuss this game
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>>170442912
fuck at least roaches don't have such incredible range. They have to charge themself at you and take a risk while PKs just reaches out and pokes with a million damage
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>>170442547
Fuck you, I intentionally crutch myself so people don't bitch. Getting successful deflects off against people who feint is hard as fuck.
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>>170442707
>no-one is forcing you to get steel in the by far most effiicient way

>no-one is forcing you to parry or block, you're only doing that because you dont like fun
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>>170443098
I'm just learning characters and building my knowledge as I go.
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>>170443051
all you did was reaffirm what I said, lol
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>>170443159
>I intentionally crutch myself
We both know you don't do that and even if you do, you're still playing on easymode.
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>>170442234
I wish my hand was a bit steadier
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>>170443202

This is going over your head because you think you're engaged in a debate with a win/loss condition
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>>170443225
>Hop into my sports car
>Eject the back two wheels
>Reliant Robin speeds ahead of me
>"YOU'RE STILL ON EASY MODE" he yells out his window
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>>170443098
And with top notch posts like this, you're going to keep blanding your way to zero discussion.
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>>170443292
uh... you did it again lol
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>>170443132
>PK
>range
The lengths you shitters will go to justify your complaining.
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>>170443296
No. You still have numerous other things that make you broken, not relying on the most basic of shit doesn't get you some sort of reward. No, fuck you. PK is easy mode, period.
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>>170443051
>>170443292

You seem like a true turboautist tbqh
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>>170442861

I never said I don't like the playstyle. I find it to be the most enjoyable playstyle in the game, in fact, which is why I'm Rep 8 with Berserker at the moment. What I'm saying is that, the Berserker lacks options on how to engage because everything they do is so heavily punishable, with a PK/Orochi-size health bar, you sort of have to bait them to do what you want them to do.
I think you are trying to read between lines that aren't there at this point.

>>170443051
>while looking for positive affirmation

Nor did I do that. I wanted to start a chain of the typical roach removal webm posting, because I find them enjoyable. But apparently, this is now looking for a pat on the back.
You really should stop being so judgmental and certain you understand why things are being posted. You'd find things are more enjoyable that way.

>>170442890

He tried to parry way too late, so the guard vanished a split second before it hit.
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>>170443407
What the fuck does Peacekeeper have outside of light attack spam and her zone?

Easily baitable side heavies?
An easy as fuck to react to lunging heavy?
A guardbreak attack that is countered by anybody who can press X on time?
Absolutely USELESS heavy attacks that can't even follow up guardbreaks for a mixup?
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>>170443493
>>170443535
lol
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>>170443570
>parry an attack
>free GB

???
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>vs AI contracts usually take me so much time I barely have any time left for actual PvP
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>>170443649
OH WOW FUCKING SOMETHING EVERYBODY HAS
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>>170443570
>switching, exhaustion means nothing, speed, bleed

I know that your ego is tied up in think how you're one of the few "good PKs" but the reality is that you're shit and will get stomped when some classes get some buffs. Or you just didn't play a broken class.
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>>170443727
>Kensei crying in the corner
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>>170443727
they have no way to be punished when out of stamina
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>>170443761
>exhaustion means nothing

This probably annoys me most about PK, you can work to get them exhaused and they still just dash away.
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>>170443816
he actually has it too, it just doesnt work most of the time for some reason
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>>170443727
yes everybody does 2 1/2 bars of bleed damage off of a single guard break that can be turned into an additional bar or two by kicking them into a wall, you got me
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>>170443816
???
Retard
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>>170443761
I'll keep playing Peacekeeper even when she's gutter trash. I like her voice and her moves.
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>>170444064
>I'll keep playing Peacekeeper
>this is what each peacekunt actually believes
Nah, once a shitter, always a shitter.
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>>170444067
ummm try again sweetie ;))
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>>170444126
Watch me.

I'm not a tier whore, historically I've always played the most garbage grapples known to man in fighting games. Tager in Calamity Trigger, Kenji in P4U. One time I pick a good character, and I'm not changing when they're shit.
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>>170440893
>>170440942
>>170441734
>>170441954
>>170442070
Stop replying to him you retards
That's what he wants
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If I side throw someone into a wall as Raider but my stance isn't on the side when I regain control, I'm fucked and can't side heavy on time right?
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>>170444171
Stop posting these, people. They prove nothing.
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Just got a warning email from jewbisoft about AFK farming. Will I be banned I let my pc on this morning to farm while i went to work.

I just wanted some exp man.
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>>170442341
You realize all warden can do is shoulder bashes guardbreaks and lights right?
He has no moveset, his biggest combo is 2 hits
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>>170444514
>I was just fucking over my team, its not my fault.
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>>170444514
Yes
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>>170444514
It's safe to assume that if you get reported by players you'll be suspended or banned, as Ubishit said that they're gonna be strict with AFK thing. But I don't think there's a way to prevent AFK in AI matches.
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>>170444514
They did say they would start sending out warning this week. If you keep AFK farming, you'll get caught in the ban waves.
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>>170444579
Yay, the Warden Defense Force has arrived. You can get fucked too.
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>>170444579
>you do realise he only has 3 extremely OP moves? i mean LB has 5 crappy unusable moves so warden is shit and LB is really good
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>>170444579
>HE
>HAS
>NO
>MOVESET
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>>170444687
I'm not wrong though
that's literally all the warden can do
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>rep12 conq
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>>170444639
AI matches with no matchmaking still count, because you're still getting Steel and XP and war assets for the Faction War, even if you're not with other players. Literally every match you play matters (custom games notwithstanding).
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>>170444720
>bringing LB into this
just casually mention the worst, barely usable character in the game np
>>
>50% of fanbase already gone

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
Warden defence force here. I realize that the character is really strong right now, but would you really want to nerf him? Why not buff/rework other chars like LAW instead to make them more viable?
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>>170444720
>Light attack is OP
>Shoulder bash is OP
>Guardbreak is OP
Really?
Just be glad they didn't give him the stupid fucking bleed mechanic
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I think I have to take a break, the turtle meta is just too much right now. I'm getting tired of facing people who will only wait for my first move, and any competent player doesn't fall for feints.

Idk what they can do to make attacking as viable as defending, but they better figure it out if they want this game to last.
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>>170444762
>and can do it over and over with no repercussions
Get fucked. You and PK are almost on the same level of cheese, albeit the latter is still worse.
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>>170444764
>no balance bush
What did he mean by this?
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>>170444171
Yeah I remember you , you spam this shit every thread
Also nice edit cuck
>>>/v/
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>>170444876
>What is stamina
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>>170444843
The devstream yesterday they will place emphasis on buffing weak characters first instead of nerfing strong characters first. I greatly approve of this style of balancing.
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>>170444843
>but would you really want to nerf him? Why not buff/rework other chars like LAW instead to make them more viable?
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>>170430059
orochi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu1zT1KjbPk
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>>170444514
you get a warning then if you get reported again you're banned
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>>170445008
What would you nerf? I'd nerf zone windup time, I guess.
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>>170444876
>Apparently claims they spam the same moves over and over
>Too fucking stupid to learn his enemy and counter their predictable 5 MAXIMUM moves
get good
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>>170444959
Almost irrelevant to wardens?
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>>170444639
>>170444651
So if I stop today will I be good?
>>170444783
Any way to farm this while away?
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>>170444171
LOOOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
:))
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Wew guess I'll buy some steel packs! Thanks Jewbisoft. Really going after the serious issues. #4theplayers
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>>170445112
Yes, if you stop today, you'll be fine. And no, farming in AI matches with no matchmaking is still AFK farming.
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>>170444790
wrong
>>>/v/
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>>170445053
Their stamina, largely. I'd be content with that.

>>170445054
>playing on easymode
>telling anyone to get good
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>>170445176
>Fucks over his team
>Farms steel and EXP by doing absolutely nothing
>Paints Ubisoft as the bad guy for telling him to stop and having optional steel packs
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>>170445268
>Fucks over his team
What did he mean by this?
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>>170445176
>Running an exploit
>Being a shithead about it when called out on it
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>>170445176
kys
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>>170445221
>Warden
>Easy mode
>5 moves that any class can counter
>No bleed
>only cool thing is shoulder bash
If you aren't fighting shitters, warden is easy as hell to fight
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>>170444843
This. Not even a Warden. I picked Orochi and I regret my decision, but at least I'm not a Raider or a fucking Lawbringer.

Look. Having 2 viable moves (ZA and overhead light) sucks. It really does. Some matchups become impossible. Mirror matches are all about who smacks the other dude first with the overhead double tap.
Some characters don't have any viable moves. That's even worse.

Warden has a decent moveset. It's not overwhelming. But unlike some of the other movesets, it works. And it looks cool when the Warden is good.

Leave Warden alone, focus on Warlord. It's a braindead class. Fastest sidestep, full block, head bash. Block, bump, stab. Block, bump, stab. Dodge, bump, stab.

It's fucking stupid. It doesn't look good. It really isn't all that fun to play. It's not fun to play against a Warlord. It doesn't even feel good when you win against a Warlord, especially as an Orochi - it just means he's shit. Fighting a Warlord is a painful, grueling experience. Fighting a Warden is at least somewhat fun, even if you know that he's stronger than you.
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>>170445176
>abuses an exploit
>complains when there are consequences
You sound like a nigger who dindu nothing.
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>>170445368
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>>170444514
I sincerely hope you get banned
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>>170445327
>leaving your team without a player to fight 3v4
>Easy kill every time team is breaking
>>
In case anyone is wondering, Spear Sweep after 2-light combo on Valk is NOT guaranteed. I still have assassins side-stepping it.
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>>170445351
>>170445332
>>170445268
>>170445434
>Plays against AI because he can't handle real players
wewewewew

Listen Ubisoft. I know you have a crack team of paid shills, but this is getting out of control.
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>>170445441
wow you sure showed me, newfag
warden isn't broken at all, Ubisoft needs to focus their efforts on peacekeeper and nobushi or just get rid of bleed affects entirely
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>>170445008
It's not League of Legends.

>>170445053
Great idea! Let's make one of the few decent moves within the game completely unusable.

You do realize that it's punishable on block, right? You don't even have to parry. It's so easy to punish a shitty Warden by guarding top, blocking the zone and going for an untechable GB that it's not even funny.

The only thing that makes it strong is kara-cancel shenanigans, and even then it's perfectly managable.
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>>170445472
>vs ai
???

99% of matches end with 0 to 1300 score.
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>>170445043

i was just straight up banned, didn't even do that much AFK farming, 2 rep levels maybe, oh well, freedom from the game i guess
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>>170445484
i've managed to backstep it as warden once or twice, but other times i get tripped up mid-dodge and get hit all the same
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>Guy with a swastika emblem beats me by spamming PK lights
>Report him for inappropriate emblem

That'll teach him for playing the game in a way I don't like!
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>>170445520
Dude what are you talking about
we are just calling you a cunt for leaving your team alone and giving the other team easy kills, what the fuck are you talking about with bots and Ubisoft shills

Jesus /vg/ is worse than /v/
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>>170445603
I realize you get a free GB out of it, but adding 1 frame to it (making it ONE FRAME SLOWER THAT TOP LIGHT HOLY FUCK) is hardly nerfing it into oblivion. And light cancel that you mentioned needs to be removed as well, as it's an obvious bug.
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>>170445663
What other team? You don't afk in pvp.
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>>170445574
>HAVING ISSUES VS NOBUSHI

AUTISM AT INCREDIBLY HIHG SPEED
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>>170426691
>people get banned for having Nazi symbols on their emblems
>people don;t get banned for having Communist symbols of their emblems

I want both of those brands of edgy 12 y/o fucks to go and stay go. Why is an ideology responsible for multiple times more deaths than the nazis allowed to have its symbols paraded around?
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>>170445520
>m-muh shills!
You need to go back >>>/v/
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>>170445327
If you're AFK farming in a game with other players, you are actively not contributing to the game and dicking over those other players who may be playing legitimately. Also, since every match matters, you are also falsely influencing the faction war by constantly generating war assets to deploy that you're not honestly earning; in this respect, you are effectively botting the faction war, which influences rewards for other players when it's done.

So yes, you ARE fucking over other players who are playing legitimately, even if you're not actually playing with them.
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who else got suspended?
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>>170445574
>being this butt mad at classes that are incredibly easy to beat
>classes like warden and warlord exist too
?
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>>170445053

>infinite shoulder bash
>barely any stamina drain

That for one.
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>>170445603
zone is fine, but PK's isn't

either make it uncancelable or recoil off of blocks for a free GB
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Do I need to be a certain rep level to get max gear level? Just trying to figure out how important exp is
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>>170427041
Perma under-leveled since I never touch Dominion.
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>>170445750
>>170445718
>Having a 5 max moveset is hard to fight
>Somehow being able to use bleed over and over and over is easy
ah now I know who you guys are
weebs and peacekeeper mains
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>>170445742
No one is suspended yet. They're only handing out warnings right now. Anyone who keeps going will eventually get suspended.
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>>170445734
It's just not true. It's against AI.
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>>170445762
I would actually be okay with stamina cost increase. You can't viably get more than 3 shoulderbashes + double lights anyway, and the enemy can backroll to avoid that entirely if he's not pinned to a wall.
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>>170445415
No fuck you, you may have fighting game pro reaction time but for 9/10 players its not blockable on reaction it comes out so fucking fast.
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>>170445720
Because the Nazis lost. That's all. The communists managed to leave a cultural, economic and geographical mark on society. Shit, most people in western nations that aren't the USA would describe themselves as "somewhat" to "very" socialist. Commies also massively infiltrated the school and government systems across the world. There's also actual modern nations with communist symbols on their flags.
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>ps4 base is literally fine
>100k-80k normally, spikes on weekends
>mfw shit lords make posts every day and spam all generals with DEAD GAEM while I wait maybe 10 sec to a 30 sec between matches
feels good
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>>170445817
When you get to reputation level 3, you can start earning purples, which you can eventually upgrade to top-level gear.

>>170445847
But even vs. AI matches are still generating war assets. If you are not in a custom game, every game you play is generating war assets for the Faction War.
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>>170445720
You're an actual fucking retard if you don't understand the difference
>>170445887
You realize the average person doesn't even know what "liberal" means, right.
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>>170445926
The player count is so low they decided to hide it from view you shill.
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>>170445831

i just got suspended, 3 days (no warnings), for AFK farming dominion AI 2-3 rep levels, see you on saturday!
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>>170445826
nope warlord main pleb i shit on noshitters and peace spammers. You know why? Because I can block unlike your dumb ass.
seriously is it that hard to block? Is it so hard for your feeble mine to process it? or are you just retarded and trying to make excuses for it?
Either that or you got creamed by nobushis and pks all day cause you just suck ass playing as orochi or some other shitter.
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>>170445912
>Portal 2 has more viewers

How?
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>>170445826
I absolutely love salty as shit Warden mains, because you can tell when they let their cheap ass character carry them to a decent rep.
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>warden got me gud enough to defeat even prestige 9 shitters
>kensei teached me to feint and find a way to out smart and predict your opponent
I'm actually loving kensei gameplay. He has nothing like warden's shoulder or conq's shield bash, but he's all about mindgames, and it makes for an interesting gameplay.
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>>170445983
>one of the most broken classes in the entire game
>everyone hates warlords
lol even worse
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>>170445961
Are you retarded or something? The "Faction War" doesn't even exist. Stop parroting marketing lines lmao.
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>>170437290
>>170437689
>>170437765
>>170437908
>>170438054
Somebody's gonna be upset when they see this
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I figured out how to balance LB without making him too OP in 4v4s.

Just let him confirm a top heavy off of longarm.

That is literally all that needs to happen.

It gives you an option to beat the turtles, aka the "knows they're against LB and will never attack ever cuz LB cannot do a single thing until he parries" and gives you the same kinda 75 dmg combos that all the top classes have.


Parry (heavy) > GB > SH > Shove > Longarm/GB/Light

Longarm > Top heavy > neutral

GB (as if amirite?) > SH > Longarm/GB/Light chain

Light Chain > Blocked into Neutral / Free damage into AD MORTEM combo which is a feint bait > Parry > GB > Longarm/GB/Light chain

And that's how just letting him confirm a top heavy off longarm makes him valid. You won't need a parry to start anything. Yeah it'll be super easy to read, cuz unless you do it raw, really the only way to start it is a shove into a longarm. Maybe add in an option to feint a heavy into longarm? Akin to raiders class special feint. Cuz seriously if you go to LB's how to play page he has not a single special skill besides stunning top heavies, and some of these fuckers have 8 special passives at all times.

Honest feed back, am I onto something or is this just fruitless?
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>>170445982
>>170445831

meant this picture
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>>170446052
ah yes there you go complaining about more characters if you are the guy i was replying too. Look complain about every character you lose to pleb. ill sit here beating your ass every time and laugh
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>>170445963
People conflate "liberal", "socialist" and "progressive" far too much. Anyway, it's still true that the only reason you can't get banned for the Communist symbolism is because they won and influenced the world past the second world war, and also China exists. If you banned someone for a hammer and sickle, you'd effectively be claiming being Chinese was banworthy.

Being Chinese should be banworthy
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Can this general just die until the game gets a content update? Face it, we got jewed out of 60$ for a bullshit beta.

>like 6 maps in total online.
>Story literally doesn't have anything but a few words to it.
> Imbalance is total shit, PKs got a buff.
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>>170446019
>level up lawbringer just as fast if not faster than warden
>warden can get his ass kicked by literally any other class
>cheap
just stop being shit, explain how warden is cheap without mentioning the shoulder bashes you can fucking dodge
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>>170445883
>>170445415
Sorry replied to the wrong person.
>>170445603
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>>170445368
lmao wtf is this post
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>>170445368
i am a warden main and wardens are not easy as fuck to fight
he would not be just below the top 3 if he was easy to fight
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>>170445821
Elimination gives almost the same xp/hour tho
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>>170446119
>beats warden every time
>IT'S OP NEEDS TO BE NERFED LOL WARDEN KIDS
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>>170446097
Is longarm the move that throws the opponent behind you? Because LB has literally zero followup besides top light from it as of now. I'd love to see some improvements in this direction.
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>>170446097
I think improving the speeds of his attacks and stance changes would make him balanced. As is, he's a "counter-attacker" who has issues countering and attacking.
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Is the block speed slower for Raiders? I fucking swear it is.
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>>170446110

I'm glad this is happening, by afk farming you only made the gear problem worse because more and more people had high gear while honest players had an even worse time.
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>>170446239
reeeee i was defending pk and nobushi
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>>170446251
Yeah, Long Arm is NO SUPERSTES. It sucks that literally all you can do after landing what is a rather had counter move is a light jab.
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>>170445972
>falseflagging this hard
>shill on vig
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>>170446141
>Tells me to stop being shit
>thinks Nobushi is as hard to fight as Warden

and yea, he is cheap, because all of his shit is fast and it all leads to a vortex. The should charge forces you to unlock and dodge away, which resets the fight to neutral. Oh and dodging costs more stamina then the shoulder charge does so he's already got an advantage after its done.

>>170446283
slow switch speed
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>>170445707
That cancel literally can't be removed, because it's there to make executing zone attacks easier for casuals.

And honestly, nothing in this game needs to be slower, including the PK spam. Literally everything in this game is perfectly reactable unless you pull off some really sick cancels. The only exception is the PK zone attack. This I would probably nerf, but I'm really not that sure because I sure as hell wouldn't want to make her Orochi-tier useless.

I'd rather have a game in which everyone has borderline-unreactable (and maybe some literally unreactable) attacks than a game in which everything can be parried by an intermediate player and everybody is afraid to make the first move. I want people to start attacking because they're afraid that the other dude is going to attack them first. I want parries and blocks to be "it's my turn to smack you" moves instead of the only damage enablers in the game. You know what I mean? It's just more fun. It looks better. It's more realistic.

People need to stop thinking about nerfing everything into the ground and start thinking about buffing everything that's currently unusable.
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>>170445176
Where did you get this? In game or an email?
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>>170446316
So? Who cares, you can do it too. Que up with four friends before you go to bed and begin the grind, wake up tomorrow to something better. A preferable alternative to feeding the hungry Jewbisoft by buying the (OPTIONAL!!!) Champ Status and (OPTIONAL!!!) Steel Packs necessary for getting better gear at a reasonable pace.
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>>170446097
the long arm getting changed would be nice but they really need make it so that shove can hit people off walls and have his stance sped up
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>>170446251
yes Longarm is the pancake that only lets you confirm a top light (aka like 17 dmg)

All I want is him to confirm a top heavy off of it (40 dmg) and that will literally make him viable, and if you parry > gb > side heavy > shove > long arm > top heavy you have a 70 damage combo on your hand off of just a parry.

>>170446262
See that's what I think a lot of people expect cuz taht's all they did to valk, linked like 2 chains and reduced the MS speed and recovery of ALL her lights by like 100-300 ms. I don't think this will fix LB. Even if his light had a 7 frame attack like PK zone right now it wouldn't let him attack any better. This is why I want to put buffs into Long Arm, his like one unique disable skill. I originally thought about the idea of buffing shove but its so easy to spam you can't really do anything with it.
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>>170446350
Yeah, I'm not a LAW main, but I agree. Maybe do something along the lines of kensei's unblockable cancel so you could put your opponent into the guessing situation.
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>>170446283
The animation is
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>>170446316

i did my first character "honestly" to rep 3, but once you start playing more characters and have to level each and everyone of them in duel/brawl to rep 3 because 4v4 is a cancer clusterfuck if you don't have gear i can see why people chose to afk farm so much
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>>170446434
Literally why is the switch speed slower for Raiders?
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>>170443570
>"it's just lights and zone"
>fastest lights and zone in the game
>some classes physically can't block them without prediction
>can throw a light attack out to space then hit any incoming conqueror bash with the even-faster followup light
>also has a dodge into double poke that can safely erase shugoki's hyperarmor
>can hit you with three guaranteed zone attacks if you're knocked over by revenge
>"it's just a guardbreak bro"
>a guardbreak that guarantees stab-stab-throw-lunge poke-poke off of a parry
>getting two grabs can put even a warden at one brick of health
>finishing hit has enough hitstun for you to safely throw out another grab attempt or a swing without trading

>>170444579
>"no moveset"
>"it's just a bash bro"
>bash can be canceled into a GB or parry, which leads to damage and loops around
>no mention of warden's zone attack
>no mention of crushing counterstrike
>he doesn't understand how valuable feinting top heavys at the ends of wardens chains is (which can be done after R1, R1 R1, and an R2)
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>Before event
>9 boxes
>After event
>12 boxes
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>>170446141
Not him, but: Extremely fast top light and zone attacks, doesnt have to use mixups, feints or parries to catch people off guard, can just alternate between two extremely fast attacks. Characters with slow guards can barely keep up. Shoulder bash is a braindead move that requires no positioning, timing or knowledge of the opponents character, you just throw it out and force your opponent to waste half his stamina by rolling, and if you want you can even cancel into top heavy for a third of an assassins HP.
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>>170446512
because raider is a 4v4 hero, apparently, and isn't allowed to be good in duels
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>>170446097
Full list that will fix lawbringer

Hyper armor on heavies
Shove combos into a weaker light similar to warlord's
Standardize guard change speed including penalties
Increase his range on attacks
Side heavy off long arm
Increase the speed of his feint. Currently it will only feint mid swing and some classes can feint fast enough to light attack in another direction before law finishes his feint
Stop people from being able to GB him out of his heavy startup frames. Some classes can feint then GB law right out of his heavy if he doesn't even try to feint it.

New combo that can be achieved:
Long arm > Heavy > Shove > light dealing a total of 40 damage if it uses the reduced damage light similar to warlords
or
Parry > GB > Heavy > Shove > Light dealing once again, 40 damage

But remember you can still dodge the shoves

That's it. That's how you fix lawbbringer.
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>>170446458
Or you could just play the fucking game?
Champ status saves you like 3 Dominion matches worth of xp during a rep cycle. Wow.
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"Buy the russian version to unlock special "drunk on vodka" mode"
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>>170446562
>didn't participate in the community event shitshow because I don't play pleb modes
>get a crate anyway
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>>17044591
>a niche game is not popular
Hmmmm.....really made me think
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>>170446574
The devs are fucking retarded.
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>>170446434
>waahahaha the character is too hard to beat
>it couldn't possibly be my play style
>slow switch speed
nonexistent pleb there is only a switch penalty when you switch sides constantly
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>>170446594
I agree with this but i'm probably biased as i'm a law main
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>mfw warden is OP posters are back
>it's like we didn't have the same discussion in the last thread/yesterday
>it's not like there is any argument for warden being OP while PK and warlord
>mfw people are still asking for nerfs instead of buffing the weaker classes
>mfw people unironically want heroes that can punch trough defense and force an action nerfed
>mfw people want the passive meta in a fighting game
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>>170446675
Devs are actually aware of low winrates dudes like LAW and LEGENDARY, and they are aware that MOST of their kills are ledges/spikes, so they're definitely getting buffed.
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>>170446675
dont worry they'll give him something more then heavy into pommel strike and attack->zone attack

>>170446687
what?
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>>170446472
I agree with the top-heavy off Long Arm. It's a difficult maneuver to pull off against experienced players, but it still leaves him in an awkward situation where he has absolutely no way to effectively open a fight without being incredibly predictable.

I get what they were going for with Lawbringer conceptually. A giant, towering man who punishes every move you throw at him and responds with extremely powerful but slow attacks. The reality is that his attacks are so slow that he can't use some of them because they are so easy to counter and block. His overhead heavy is practically worthless unless you manage to exhaust an enemy and knock them onto the ground, which won't happen against a competent opponent.
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>>170445972
Oh fuck you are retarded
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>>170446687
which is still a penalty, as it means you aren't allowed to switch sides for the sake of your own attack ever, and have to constantly wait like a statue for your opponent
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>>170446715
>it's not like there is any argument for warden being OP while PK and warlord
exist
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>>170446005
>mfw it's true
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>>170446692
Came up with it as a lawman, but had conversations about it with people that main warden, orochi, shugoki, and pk
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>>170446760
there is no different switch speeds but a switch penalty for spamming it
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>>170446574
>>170446675
They've already said Raider and Lawbringer are getting buffs to improve their dueling (they're currently hovering at 45%, the lower boundary of the acceptable duel winrate margin), but they want to be sure they don't buff them such as to render them overpowered in 4v4. They have a high success rate there because those two are arguably the best gankers in the game. They even acknowledge how the majority of Lawbringer's kills are environment kills.

The devs know their shit, and they know what's happening.
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>>170446135
Bad b8
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>>170446153
You know, it's not about fighting game reaction times. In fact, we're talking MOBA-tier reaction times here. Usually, you're just guarding against a single option here. That's like flashing a Malphite ult. Literally everyone can guard against overhead light and ZA, it simply requires a little bit of practice.

Unless you're using a TV with some display lag. Then literally everything becomes a fucking PK ZA and nothing can be blocked. I bet my ass that's where all the "fighting game reflexes" comments and all the "pls nerf" whine comes from.
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>>170446434
>>170446496
>slow switch speed
>The animation is
Can you explain?
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>>170444843
There's an argument that would be homogenization; not everyone can have the same toolset as the strong characters.
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>>170446110
kek how have I not been banned yet? I abused the hell out of it to get 6 characters to rank 3 already, hell im doing it right now while while watching a movie
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>>170446806
its there so people don't fucking spam it you shit
>it is apparently that hard to just block it
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>>170446594
I forgot

Cancel shove into GB so he can actually punish conq's shield bash, warden's shoulder, nobushi kick, shugoki's charge, and warlord's head butt
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>>170446914
it takes longer for the block to activate; supposedly it is impossible for raider to keep up with peacekeeper light attack spam.
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>>170446715
>pic
>warden is below conq
umm no
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>>170446110
>>170446110
>I left my game on farming this morning
>got a warning email
will I be banned when I get home? I got in a full AFK lobby before I left. Or do you have to be reported again?
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>>170446849
yes there is
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>>170446956
except it's not there on spam characters retard
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>>170446991
Shut the fuck up it is possible if you aren't fucking spamming the block different direction holy shit you dense fuckers. I swear you fuckers scream fucking fire in a theater and these dipshits will believe you.

ALL BLOCK SPEEDS ARE THE SAME
IF FOR SOME GOD DAMN REASON YOU ARE SPAMMING IT YOU WILL BE PENALIZED
>>170447073
no there isn't you fucking pleb
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>>170446914
When you switch your guard during neutral, everyone has the same guard switch speed. However, if you change your guard in rapid succession, your character's specific guard change speed comes into effect, meaning characters can transition guard faster or slower than others. Raider's guard change speed is slower than the average, which means he is more likely to fall apart against quick pressure by fast attacks from multiple angles, which is the Peacekeeper/Orochi/Berserker's specialty.
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This isn't happening!

I am in charge here!
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>>170447130
yes there is tho
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>>170446956
>HURR SLOW CHARACTERS HAVE SLOWER GUARD SWITCH SPEED SO THEY WON'T SPAM THEIR (SLOW) ATTACKS
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>>170446993
it's not like the guys saying this mains conq and has won a few tournaments or anything
but your opinions is valued as well, thanks for commenting
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>>170447170
N-nani!?
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>>170446453
Email. I'm just going to find a buddy to do it in Brawl vs AI as the income is very similar.

I haven't logged in yet actually, I wonder if they did anything. That was the entire email pretty much. -> Everything is still there lol

I really regret not doing it more since it's almost impossible to be competitive in 4v4 modes with anybody but your main character without being reputation 3 which is a lot of grinding. And being rep 3 doesn't even mean you'll find the gear you want. I've only been doing it for a week and not 24/7. Kids on Reddit will like to complain that it hurts someone's game experience vs ai but that is an outright lie and a narrative to lead more people to buy steel packs. Now that my champion status is almost gone I'll likely just take a break from the game for now.
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>>170447179
>>170447214

THERE IS NOT WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING PROOF?????
fucking big charterer s HAVE THE FUCKING SAME SPEED YOU DIP SHITS REREEEEEEEEEEEWEE
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>>170446857
If the devs weren't retarded they would allow a grappler such as the Raider in the first place to land real attacks after a grab. Not even a half stamina bar zone attack which deals more or less 1 bar of health isn't guaranteed to land, meanwhile a fucking Warden who already has a fuckton of tools can land a heavy after a grab, along many other classes.
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>>170445720
Because Jews. How fucking long will it take you to accept that /pol/ was right?
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>>170447130
>spamming it
>one change alone is punishable by peacekeeper zone attack cointoss
>you have to attack from the same direction always whenever you fight her
>mean while she has no such penalty
>people think she isn't one of the most defensive charaacters in the game
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>>170447308
you can google it, lol
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>>170446715
>>it's like we didn't have the same discussion in the last thread/yesterday
And you're still wrong.
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>>170446782
Lmao keep trying Ubisoft. This game is getting stale for anyone that has played it for more than 2 weeks and everyone knows it. There is no community for this game at all either, the twitch numbers are pathetic. You'll typically only find 1 flavor of the month style streamer at the top at some point in the day before they drop the game for some other fotm soon.
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The block stance change penalty needs to go, anyone saying it's not there is retarded
>been playing warden the whole time
>can parry any heavy and most light by feel
>switch to nobushi
>can't parry shit anymore
>switching guard in the parry window does not work anymore
>need to have your guard in the same direction as an attack way before the parry window

shit needs to go

>>170447391
thanks for you valued input, you will not go unnoticed
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>>170446715
>there are no arguments

I'm done with this, you warden mains are literally blind. There are paragraphs of arguments in this very thread.
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I fucking love how weapons get stuck in the environment after people's death. A nodachi stuck in the ground near the dead guy's body is just so poetic man.
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>>170447143
Orochi doesn't pressure you from multiple angles. Side attacks are so slow they're considered parriable on reaction by a potato. He literally has 2 moves: overhead light double tap and ZA. You can put your guard top and block to the side on reaction and he literally can't touch you, ever. You just CGB and react to a red flashing light and he's done. There's nothing in his kit to allow him to break through that. Unlike Warden, he can't even kara-cancel his zone into overhead light because he has hidden guard.
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>>170446594
I feel like this is way too much. Hyper armor on heavies? I get in his trailer his armor is super speshul secret of their order but what good is super armor if people can just parry you? You yourself said people can GB or hit you before you feint, super armor won't help that.

Shove combo so like shove into light doing like 9 damage garunteed? Sound shitty. I like the idea of shove being able to wall bounce like conq but shove has to cost stamina or take effort then, otherwise all you gotta do is block into shove into wall which wall bounce is already a garunteed top heavy, that's WAY too fucking OP.

Guard change, yeah. But like all characters his first change is 8 frames, jumps to 20 after or whatever.

Range? I don't think it's needed. His side heavies can hit assassin dodge attacks and his side lights are pretty great as is.

Side heavy off long arm is stupid, might as well just make it a top heavy like literally every other class. Warden gets top heavies, Warlords do, Shugokis do, even fucking PK's get top heavies off of standups. And the difference between side and top heavies is 10 dmg, which sound small but is literally like 10% of every characters health.

I don't feint enough to have an opinion here.
I hate the GB meme but you shouldn't be fucking try to raw heavy anyways, feinting or not.

Parry > GB > Heavy > Shove > Light is literally already a combo and does like 45 damage in a chain. Unless you're just wanting that light to be unblockable or confirmed, but that's pretty stupid. Leave it to a mixup like I said. Longarm/GB/the current light.

Longarm leads into the (hopefully added) top heavy,
GB leads into the same shit, side heavy then enter 33/33/33 mixup.
Light leads to either the free 15 damage, which counts as the combo to give you AD MORTEM from the side, which can already be feinted, which leads into the entire GB combo again or can be let loose for an unblockable, or if they block it you just reset to neutral.
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>>170447308
you a bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTWO7W1VrI
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How can you get to that level and still be such a shitter
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>>170447472
>>170426691

It's time to settle this.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12488537
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>>170446715
Warden is fairly weak in my opinion. I don't remember the last time one has killed me and he's the most common character. Everything he does is so unsafe.
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>>170447507
>"kara-cancel"
>it's a tech I swear
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>>170447454
Litterally the only people that I've seen support the block change penalty are pk mains.
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>>170447570
$10 on the WDF fag deleting this post when he sees the poll not going his way.
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>>170447372
>>170447359
you dense fuckers go on and believe your brain dead shit
block speeds are the same
there is different penalties for every character for spamming it side to side
every attack can be blocked if you block fucking right
>>170447553
block penalties are different not block speeds
I won't argue with you idiots that are so set in your own bullshit.
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>>170447570
voted for both
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>>170447689
alright man, enjoy your sub-50% winrate
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>>170447430
>caring about twitch and e-celeb streamers
Holy fuck stop posting anytime
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>>170447595
t. warden
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>>170447560
He's Russian, and most of them are 14 y o kids.
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>>170447560
I beat a Rep 5 Conq as Lawbringer. Genuinly no idea.
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>>170447570
The results are flooding in!
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>>170447689
>for every character for spamming it side to side
wrongerino

>every attack can be blocked if you block fucking right
also wrong

>block penalties are different not block speeds
Really? What's being penalized? The width of the block? Do you get decreased damage resistance?

It's the fucking speed, retard.
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>>170447759
Yeah, but still. I'm really not good at this game.
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>>170447430
Keep living in denial /v/ poster
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>>170447937
He probably AFK farmed.
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>>170447507
Which is why good players don't brute force through guards if they don't have to. The Orochi has a bunch of tools for footsies and whiff punishing, and if you allow yourself to be conditioned to watch for the top light and the zone, you'll be unprepared for the rest of his kit.

On paper, at least.
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GUIDE ON HOW TO GET THE 8 KILLSTREAK ORDER

1) Join a game with a full team of 108s on your side
2) Have a bunch of grey-blue gearscore noobs on the enemy side
3) They complain about matchmaking and all leave
4) They are replaced by a full team of bots who will happily let you kill them by spamming top heavies from behind in a group fight
5) Easy killstreak
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>>170447625
The Shugoki's phantom hit and unparryable heavy was legit an exploit, though. That's going away with tomorrow's server-side patch.
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>>170448118
>implying it wasn't a bunch of killstealing even when it was a bot order
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>>170447983
Yeah I guess. But why not practice against bots first?
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>>170447625
Now that's just fucking stupid. But generally speaking, it's rather healthy for the game.

By the way, what you've pasted here is some Shugoki unlock bullshit, no? I'm not all that familiar with the fatty.
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>>170448183
And thus Shugoki moves from mid to bottom tier.
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>>170447745
first in one tourney second in another
>>170447858
When you switch your block twice in a row the third time block speed is reduced. this is to prevent people from just spamming the block in circles. because if not that shit would be broken

every attack can be blocked the game was made this way
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>>170448224
Shugoki (and a few other characters) can unlock their view when swinging their heavy to render it completely unblockable and unparryable. If they time it just right, they can even score an additional "phantom hit" for double the damage.

This will be gone in tomorrow's server-side patch, so don't worry about it.
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>Orochi anime charges into my top heavy
Goddamn Kensei is fun
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>>170448212
takedowns are shared; executions aren't
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>>170448223
>Average player
>Practicing
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>>170448183
I'm sure that feinting lights when only breserker is explicitly stated to be able to do that was fully intended though
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>>170448269
is that supposed to be impressive
>>
>>170448269
And what class do you play?
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>>170448419
And? Takedowns have nothing to do with killstreaks. Neither do executions, for that matter.
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>>170448065
Yeah, but the rest of his kit is so telegraphed you just can't do that. They might be unprepared, but it's so painfully slow they'll still be able to react. All that he's good for is slaughtering newbies - and, admittedly, he does that really fast (bait a whiff, storm rush->double tap->ZA x2 and it's over).

At a certain skill level you just can't lose to him with some characters. Warlord: Orochi is literally a 10-0 matchup.
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>>170448349
only shugoki got the phantom hit I believe

>>170448419
you need actual kills for the order, not takedowns
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>>170427041
>>170427041
dominion baby reporting it
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>>170448562
>>170448564
it isn't you are right but im proving im not sub 50 par like you say.

Why so you can criticize it?
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>>170448269
>When you switch your block twice in a row the third time block speed is reduced
wrong

170409642
170410078
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>>170448349
Yeah, so it's got nothing to do with the kara cancels. I don't know of any cancels that make anything hit faster. Hitting faster is unlock stuff - and some of that really should be patched out.
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>>170448696
Just answer the question m8, surely you have nothing to hide.
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>>170448696
I mean, For Honor tournys allow drop hacking so it's not some seal of approval for being wrong
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>>170448743

>>170409642
>>170410078
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>have a nice run in the night, kicking ass here and there
>Knights are expanding tonight, hell yeah
>Wake up and see this Viking nonsense
What in the name of the Pope is going on with the Vikings? They're humping every single piece of land, we need to stop them
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I can't do it anymore bro's

Playing Lawbringer actually hurts my soul how bad he is
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>>170448743
There is a block penalty not a block speed. what people are posting is the block animation not the actual thing but whatever go on believing it
>>170448787
I like to play as nobushi some times but usually kensei or warden
>>170448794
Xbox player there was no drop hacking of the sort. maybe it is possible that i'm just good
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>>170448967
The buffs are coming. Also, any advice for kensei? Wanna start playing him.
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>>170448995
>or warden
There it is.
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>>170448995
>there's a block penalty specifically designed to penalize only the block icon but not the block whatsoever, and is only present on certain characters for no reason
literal retard
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>>170448617
You know what Orochi needs? Convert his Storm Slash stance into something akin to Nobushi's Hidden Stance. Give him a bunch of options he can use out of Storm Slash besides "cancel" and "dash attack in his clearly telegraphed direction." It's the same as a "stance" in any other 2D fighter, so give him a bunch of options to use out of it, one of them being his command run attack.
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>>170449090
THERE IT IS
>>170449109
keep telling yourself that
>>
Is there some sort of timing for Orochi double top light? I feel like it doesn't always go off
>>
This game would really benefit from having demo/cinematic tools to catch the attention of the machinima/montage crowd, but considering that Ubisoft can barely keep the servers up as it is without something catching fire over in the Ubisoft server room, I'll be happy if they just fix the game itself. At least a man can dream.
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>>170448995
lol
>>
>>170449227
lol
>>
>playing elimination
>Against a weeb in the first round
>He runs to grab every single nearby boost
OK, it's not like this was already at your advantage as I'm playing LB.
Fucking hate 4v4
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>>170449190
you're the one making shit up without evidence anon

you offer fantasy counter-explanations but zero counter-examples
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>>170449285
agreed
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>>170449346
block spamming is penalized
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>>170445520
nice projecting
>>
In domination holding the point closest to your spawn to get the extra +1 is such a waste unless they are attacking it non stop.

You can get 30 points in 2 seconds by just doing zone attacks on B instead of sitting there being useless while your team gets slaughtered. 60 points in 60 seconds isnt much if everything else is being taking cause some noobshit is sitting on A all game.
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>>170449126
I don't know, man. It really wouldn't make him more threatening. I mean it'd be fun and cool, it'd certainly make him feel smoother, but it probably wouldn't make him more viable.

He simply desperately needs more fast ways to attack, his defense is fine and his whiff punish setups are godlike (but kinda impossible to set up against decent players, because they don't have any reason to attack you).
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I can't parry anything today

I got hit by 3 Raider unblockables in a row

What the fuck
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I've got berserker and conqueror to rep 1 now. Haven't played much but up to that point at least. Which one should I get to rep3 first?
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>>170449395
that's a counter explanation, not counter example

you should learn what evidence is instead of repeating falsehoods ad-nauseum
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YOUR THREAD IS BREAKING
>>170449613
>>170449613
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>>170449537
it'll be okay anon
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>>170449604
block spamming is penalized
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>>170449068
Feint the fuck out of your top heavy. You can use the combo finisher directly after a throw, do that if possible. Side dash lights are fast as fuck.
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>>170449498
This, sitting on point A when it's the only one you hold is fucking dumb.
The enemy team has enough players to defend their two points and even attack your A if they get kills on B or C.
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>>170449208
I think it's the same as Warden, so as soon as the first connects.
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>>170449498
I camp the closest spot in dominion every game and kill anyone who comes to contest it and I score the most points every single time
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>>170449679

>>170409642
>>170410078

peacekeeper always blocks at the same speed
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>>170449724
Top heavy unblockable is guaranteed if you score a wallsplat with your throw.
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>>170449208
No, you just have to learn to tap-tap every time you swing from the top guard.
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>>170449973
assassins aren't penalized :)
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>>170450070
Yup, same goes for warden
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>>170450132
nope cause assassins have block drain
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>>170450173
Nope, warden switches back and fourth 8 frames every time

there was a webm a couple threads ago showing them all side by side
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>hey have you played Skirmish vs AI yet?
>well heres orders to do it 4 days in a fucking row
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>>170450260
visible block switches not actual block
but im done here trust me on this one youll learn it one day kid
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>>170450059
I feel like I am and it's not going off. Do I have to wait until first one connects or can I just double tap and it'll go off as long as the first hits?
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>>170450314
>some characters have different UI for no reason, but still block identically
thanks for admitting defeat, kiddo
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>>170450425
no going to make some videos to prove your ass wrong
youll see em on vg in the future
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>>170450495
>I-I'll get you next time!
sure you will, kiddo kidderino :)
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>>170450646
there is a reason im still replying
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>>170450737
because you're trying to procrastinate starting those videos you'll never make
>>
How do I counter Valk as LB?
>>
>>170450910
>>170449613
>>170449613
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>>170450841
Will a video of every character blocking both of pks lights suffice or what?
what will suit your fancy
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>>170450993
You can block them on PREDICTION as a slow blocker, retard, everyone already knows this.

Warden's block speed is 8 frames, every time, no penalty.

...You're only just now asking what I would want out of a video? That means you have zero intent in actually making a video in any of these posts:

>>170450737
>>170450495
>>170450314
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>>170451203
you can block them on reaction
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>>170451354
Nope

I like how you're retreated from claiming that warden has a block penalty on subsequent blocks. Did you try it out yourself and get proven wrong?
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>>170451445
he does if he spams block i didn't retreat you simply changed topics so i switched to address it
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>>170451547
No, it's 8 frames, every time.

>y-you're the one who stitched topics
sure

refer to >>170450260/>>170450425

my last responses actually concerning the game were pointing out that warden has PK's easymode spamblock, and from there on out I was just making fun of the fact that you'll never make a video disproving it

you're the retreater
>>
ten minutes later, no video :)
>>
twenty minutes later :)
see you around anon
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>We reverted the Guardbreak mechanics to the Beta behavior in order to have it be a more usable skill.
I keep seeing this, but what the fuck does it actually mean? Do they just assume everyone played the beta?
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