/fhg/- For Honor General

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buff femraider

Who's got your favorite executions?

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Anyone know why I can't use Dusk and Storm?
They are both unlocked at reputaion 0 level 1, but they are locked for me.

I would like to befriend a Viking player well-versed in the heroes of that faction on PS4. I don't do well against them and need someone to practice with.

>>170372321
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Wew

>>170372446
female berzerker dick kick/cunt punt

>>170372462
It's a bug, happening to a lot of people.

>>170372361
OwO!

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this is the webm comment.

post webms replying to this so people can see them.

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So, what changes would need to be made for you to play Warden without hating yourself.

For me, they'd need to
>remove the vortex mixup
>slow down zone
at the very least

I can't bring myself to play as Warden in the current state because he's so much better than all the other characters and it genuinely feels bad to win with him.

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how the hell do you do the longer pierce charge as lawbringer
I've seen streamers carry people way farther than I ever do and they're in brawl with no gearstats

>>170372505
You know you could of just copy and pasted those embeds instead of typing it out 3 wrong.

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Heroes who need buffs:
Raider.
Zerker
Noboshi

Nerfs:
Warden
PK
Roach
Warlord

If you disagree your a sub rep 10 shitter.
T. total rep 20 bull

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The Soup Nazi from Seinfeld knew how to make soup and had the confidence to not let his customer tell him how to handle his craft.

Ubisoft makes gb's retard-easy to counter because they lack this confidence and scrubs on reddit complained about a core gameplay mechanic?

Why do professional game designers lack the confidence in their work to the degree that they'll let faggot idiots on reddit design their product?

>>170372646
Hold it down

>>170372646

Just hold down the charge button.

>>170372623
I think these are fair changes that would make warden balanced but not bad, I endorse them.

>>170372623

Same here.

I'm playing Kensei who is considered 'poor man's Warden' evidently, just to avoid the stigma of playing as a babbymode character.

I bring the suffering on myself though, my main is Lawbringer.

>>170372446
Warden
Lawbringer
Shugoki

>>170372647
Nigga I did copy paste. No bulli.

>>170372676
>nerfing orochi
>nerfing a character with 2 moves

????????

>>170372647
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Laptop has issues dragging, I'm a shitter I know

>>170372676

Obligatory statement that Lawbringer needs a buff.

>>170372339
Yeah I think GB being a defensive tool is pretty bullshit.
Right now the way combat works at high level is: someone swings, the get parried, the get free GB'd, they get free heavied

Or they feint the attack and get a counter parry. But that's a mixup, not guaranteed.
There needs to be some sort of guaranteed option on the offensive for each class, whether it's unparryable attacks or untechable GBs after a setup

>>170372676
nobushi doesn't need buffs

LB does need buffs

the only thing orochi needs changed is his zone attack switching directions mid swing

agree with the rest

>>170372462
It's a bug affecting a lot of players, presumably coming about when the servers fucked up last week. The worst part is that if you change your color, you can't go back to Dusk/Storm because it's locked. I know there's a thread on the official forums about this.

Do you guys flick the stick or hold it in the direction while you're doing parries?

I find myself holding the stick toward where I need to parry, but I wonder if flicking it would be better.

I also have trouble changing guards while attacking to confuse my enemy, I end up hitting the same direction multiple times because I hold the stick down and try to slide it to the other guard between attacks.

Should I flick?
Does that make the difference?

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>>170372721
I love Kensei because he's so honest, I wish Warden was honest too because I love the character design and moveset.

>>170372623
Zone should just require you to be in the right stance before use.

Vortex isn't OP, the bigger issue is just the reach his grab sometimes has. He's got Melee Marth's vacuum hands. If he didn't zip so far forward, spacing and punishing the vortex wouldn't be hard. I don't think it needs to be removed, and I'm saying this as a non-warden player.

>zombie dlc

>>170372590

does anyone have the "tis treason" PK webm

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>>170372590

>>170372690
People were accustomed to the guardbreak behavior we had in the open beta. That's it.

>>170372929
Hold. The stick deadzone is too big to fuck around with flicking unless you're sure you're flicking with gusto.

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>>170372676
>Orochi needs a nerf

>>170372676
>no law buff mentioned
???

>nobu
nobu would be top tier if she had fast switching, buff slow switchers in general and she'll be fine

>roach
I wouldn't mind a rework since he's annoying but he's not OP

>>170372938
>killing Orochis in the middle of their stupid 'cool guy' standup animation
No. Better. Feeling.

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DLC fucking when

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>when ppl with 40 hours tell you to git gud
>when ppl with 40 hours try to give u advice on the video game
>when ppl with 40 hours try to share their input on game mechanics
>ppl with 40 hours

>>170373038
spicy

>>170373048
and the paying customers were accustomed to the gb behavior we had in the release product

and it was objectively-healthier for the game to make them more difficult to counter

it would be just be nice for once to have a dev tell players to fuck off, we know what is best for our product, and to stand firm on something even if it is bs, which gbc was not.

>>170373203
Start of season 2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>At the start of Elimination rounds, you occasionally see your opponent levitate back to their feet if they were killed in the previous round.

SPOOKED

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>>170372321
>Patch that buffs Valks and peacekeepers went live on ps4 today
Well RIP I all ready had a hard enough time fighting them, how does a kensei fight them? I'm shit so that probably explains a lot I still can't do his unblockable cancel 7 out of 10 times.

>>170373214
>when a level 12 is trying to give you "tips" and you are a rep 10 with 120 hours by saying you can always get a GB off shove

I think my biggest flaw playing LB is I haven't grasped feinting quite yet and I react a little slow to people who can feint well. Anyone else having trouble with that?

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>>170373247
I hate the changes, but I had the reaction skills to stop every GB

Now it feels like everyone can do the same thing and it sucks. PC, so I've been playing with the changes for a while

>>170373145
>killing Orochis
>No. Better. Feeling.
fixed

>>170372676
>LB and Kensei don't need buffs

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Post Sword Saints

>>170373203
DLC is scheduled around the in-game seasons. Big DLC drops, including the new characters, will be at the start of each new season. Centurion and Ninja will arrive at the start of season 2, which will be in less than two months.

>>170373315

Rest assured that, at least in the first few days, they will be spamming lights and going for the leg sweep CONSTANTLY, or at least they did on PC.

Just be ready to side dodge + light as Kensei or just side/back dodge as other characters to avoid the sweep when you hear her do her retard scream.

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>>170373408

>>170373378
Lawbringer's feint is extremely slow. Classes can even GB you before you can feint and even GB you out of the startup frames of your heavy if you don't even try to feint

About to jump into my first post-patch game on PS4.

I'm scared.

>>170373408

>Dislike the jacket
>Want a more traditional Samurai look with armor

As a new Kensei secondary player, are there any sets that will accommodate me when I get to rep 3 heroic gear?

>>170373390
>Roachy with that stupid ping pong paddle from naruto
If there's one thing For Honor has taught me it's that shameless weebs exist fucking EVERYWHERE

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>>170373530
>tfw going full we and backdropping niggas off cliffs

>>170373479

So I'm just fucked then?

>>170373298

It is kinda freaky.

>>170373552
Just don't bother trying to GB anymore unless you parried.
Also get ready to see Valks everywhere

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>>170373593
Hows this?

>>170373661
basically.
If you don't parry you can't get damage in because you are so slow and shove doesn't go into anything.
If you do try to parry, they can feint you and fuck your ass
If you try to block into shove, you get nothing because shove doesn't go into anyting
If you try to long arm, they get a free GB because it's slow to start and they can side step it
If you try to normal attack, you get parried because of how slow your attacks are

>>170373781

Pretty noice.

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>>170373593
>>170373881
>Not liking the pimp Jacket
Shameful dispray

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>>170372590
hey look, this guy I fought figured out how to keep turtles from teching

>>170373596
google the filename for a laff

>>170373781
about as good as it gets

everyone is going to be gold, spikey, and with skyrim elven weapons in a week or two

it is best to make your character look like a real warrior instead of a gaudy mess because everyone will be a gaudy mess

>>170373596
Nigga the Uchia clan symbol is in every fucking online game where people can create there own profile picture

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the PK lost his fuckin mind after this

>>170373390

What settings do you use on your webms? I want that crisp quality, for that file-size. Jesus christ is that sexy.

>>170373390
There is a feeling better than killing a roach.

That moment right before you kill a roach when you catch their dodge with a GB and they exclaim :
>N-Nani!?!?

>>170374083
I'm not entirely sure what is going on in this webm

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>>170373530
>both are low hp
>he wouldve been dead from a side heavy anyway
>but you threw him off

So can somebody confirm this?

Did the patch just fix two people GBing each other, and one winning, to where now it just cancels each other out?
Or is teching easier now?

I didn't notice they extended the event time until now.

If they're gonna do that what's the point??

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>>170372590

>>170373390
>>170373937
>http://www.dailymailDOTcoDOTuk/news/article-2226324/Russian-teen-leaps-apartment-block-seeing-favourite-Japanese-cartoon-character-die-television.html
Fuckin nice. Gave me a laugh like you said.

>>170374057
Doesn't make it any less funny seeing edgy Ninja/Samurai running around and sucking dick at the game

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>>170374286
>tfw ps4 has the highest userbase and all ready finished it on time

>>170374286

Gotta give everybody that feeling of accomplishment, even if we don't deserve it.

>>170374269
This is everything that it does

Previously:
If two people were to attempt to GB each other at nearly the same time, and 1 person manages to GB the other, the second person cannot attempt to CGB

Now:
If two people were to attempt to GB each other at nearly the same time, and 1 person manages to GB the other, the second person can attempt to CGB

The patch did not change any timing or button mashing ability.

>>170374269
Yes.

>>170374269
Effectively, guardbreaks that hit while you attempt to guardbreak are no longer untechable.

>>170374220
Somebody let the Nobushi rez the Warlord after getting stunned by a projectile thrown by a teammate

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>>170374380
>more people finish more games faster

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>>170374127
depends on how long you want the webm to be.

1280x720 will only serve you up to like 8 seconds of minimal movement

If you want something longer to look good, you gotta chop resolution. Google 16:9 and just convert your way down the list until you find something that works for what you're trying to show. 960x540 will usually cut it but 854x480 can be helpful on the longest.

>>170374162
Cockroaches are for exterminating

>>170374576

I mean, your actual settings. Resolution will only do that much, I want your actual command line.

>>170374286
More data

>>170374549
they also had the bigger milestone, 5.something million

>>170374380
Ps4 needed to play 2.8 million more games

>>170374638
That can vary depending on resolution. Just use webm for retards or aerthas webm maker

>>170374286
So people don't bitch up a storm at other users and accuse the game of being dead. Mostly the latter.
The devs' excuse was they set the goal too high, which is true. They just don't want you to know why they overestimated so much.

From now on I doubt we'll be seeing world event orders in the 10s of millions

>>170374716
and it still finished first

http://www.githyp.com/for-honor-lost-over-half-of-its-playerbase-in-its-first-two-weeks-on-steam/

"FOR HONOR LOST OVER HALF OF ITS PLAYERBASE IN ITS FIRST TWO WEEKS ON STEAM" Whew, that's a lot. How?

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Post webms where you have the situation perfectly under control

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>>170372590
i swear i won't spam, just gonna post a few

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>>170374638
Just webm for retards, enable 2-pass encoding and set a constant max of 3mb

You might be recording at too low of a bitrate, meaning you wouldn't be able to convert to anything nice even if your webm has the space to use it.

I record at 10k bitrate downscaled to 1280p and convert lower from there.

>>170374424
>>170374439
>>170374441
Ah ok, I was hearing conflicting information, thanks.

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>>170374809
i woulda been hollerin like a black lady in church

>tfw no friend(s) to afk with on pc

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>>170372590
>>170374862

2/?

>>170374729

I do use those. I've been making webms for years, but I've never seen them that crisp, for that file-size until they're like 3 seconds long.
Which is why I'm so intrigued by this, I've never managed to get webms to look that good. They always look kind of muddy, even when I crank up the bitrate, on a lower size.

>>170374883

That's about the exact same settings I've used for a long time now. As said, which is why I'm so very intrigued by this.

>>170374809
>Sacrificing your teammate to kill 3 of them
A true General(tm)

>>170375000
wouldnt afk'ing with a friend be counterproductive?

since you need the other people to win the game for you, having another afk person would make it harder

>>170375000
>tfw no friends to do the allied order on pc with

How exactly did GB change?

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>>170372590
>>170375045
3/?

>against four gear 108
>quit to world map

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>tfw filthy honorfags shit talk you so you hop on your main next match and watch them leave as you execute them
is there any better feeling?

>>170372938

>honest

Yeah nah stop using this shit meme word. By honest you mean "has fuck all for approach options aside from feints"

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>>170372590
>>170375208
5/last one for now

>>170375258
+1

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>>170375086
Bitrate is quality, are you sure that you're recording in a high enough bitrate in the first place?

If the bits don't exist it's hard to put them in a webm.

Watch some of your plain recordings, if they don't look good then you're recording at too low of a bitrate.

The amount of movement on screen can greatly influence the total amount of data, if you're spinning your camera you might only get 3 seconds to look decent but when standing still you can get 10.

>>170375278
>has no options
or
>has gimmicky options
which is more honest?

>>170375278

>posts yeah
>then posts nah right after

Why would you even type yeah?

>>170375258
>facing you main as another char
>switch to main
>show them how it's done

>>170375397
>shoulderbash spam
w0w so skillful

I can't respect a "good" warlord player.

>>170375397
>wow im so cool i can do warden's braindead vortex

is it possible to play this game in windowed mode?

i cant find a setting for it anywhere....alt+tabbing takes too long for me when im fullscreen

>>170375578
>>170375608

thanks, its hard to predict what they will do sometimes, so any appreciation is welcome

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>>170375258
exactly what happened right here

you assholes complained about the erp and now these generals are mostly about how to record webms

i'd take the erp even though both roads lead to deadgameville

>>170375162
You don't need to win the game when AFK, just complete it for game completion and gear scavenging.

People just like to do dominion because it's exp. payout over the hours is highest

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*Blocks your path*
r1r2r1feintguardbreakr2r1feintr1r2r1r2

>>170373593

>want a more traditional look

Nigger the sleeveless jacket could only be worn by samurai you uncultured stupid fuck.

>>170375651
Yeah it's good to play warden if you're retarded because you just do the vortex and if they guess wrong you do damage and if they guess right you just go back to neutral

>>170375627
under display options
>fulscreen/borderless/windowed
or press alt+enter to change from fullscreen to windowed

>>170375627

>tfw GTX960m has fullscreen bug that won't let you fullscreen
>tfw have to play in borderless window and sacrifice graphics settings to maintain 60fps

You don't know how good you have it.

But the option is in display, not graphics.

>>170372321
Wait, you can block lawbringer's impale after parry?

>>170375661
I know this is a retarded question I should probably know the answer to, but do top attacks punish side dodges, or is it all about the timing?

>>170372446
the lawbringer one where they try to crawl away and you give em a nice back massage

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>>170375697

But anon, I already parried him after the first r1.

>>170375781
i don't understand your post mate, how is it more skillfull to spam 2 attacks or never attack and wait for a parry
than to engage the fight and mindgame someone to death

are you this bad?

>>170375850
he dodged too early

>>170375849
you can either block, parry or dodge every single one of lawbringers attacks or moves, no matter what came before

>>170375924
>warden doesn't even know what he's doing

Checks out

>>170375753

>being a nerd

am i the only one who thinks playing whitout HUD is the most awesome shit since blowjobs?

i mean, it's fucking epic, and somehow, it makes parrying easier.

>>170375850
top attacks have better tracking, you have to time your dodges more carefully

>>170375989
?
still have no idea what are you trying to say
are just mad because you have no idea how to punish a vortex?

>>170373203
>A Song of Shit and Piss

Go, stay go

>>170375978
I thought ad mortem after light and side heavy after GB was guaranteed.

>>170376171
haha nice

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>>170375697
hahaha

ive run into some decent berserkers the last few days and i have to say i do appreciate their fucking nonstop flurry shit, but fuck a lot of their attacks animate in such a stubby awkward way i cant help but laugh when they are flailing away.

>>170376153
>>still have no idea what are you trying to say

I know

Good fucking lord revenge really need some hot fixing.

>>170375968
I thought that was the case.
I'm just curious because it seems like very few moves actually punish dodging so I'm looking for solutions to counter dodge-attack spam.

It seems like if someone times it right there are actually very few moves that punish it

>>170376153
>how to punish a vortex?
Please, because the only way out is rolling away, which actually leaves you open to being punished.

>>170375781

>crying about warden vortex

It's the 1 offensive mixup in the game that forces the enemy to go on offence. Which is a good thing in this defense-biased meta.

This game gives so much reward for parrying or dodging that people now just fucking never attack and only wait to counter. Warden is the ONLY hero that says "fuck you" this current boring cancer meta.

>>170376179
ad mortem is only guaranteed after a light parry

>>170376236
sorry you got touched by a warden, but you will get better in time and learn how to play
stay strong mate, i believe you can do it

HOLY SHIT VALK'S ATTACKS ARE FAST AS FUCK

>>170376179
it can be parried

>>170376323
>Warden is the ONLY hero that says "fuck you" this current boring cancer meta.
You don't see how that could be considered broken?

Warden, 1/12th of the roster is the only character able to force an attack.
The rest of the characters cannot do it, warden is overpowered.

>>170376272
you will figure it out, you are smart enough

>>170376134
i've never came from a blowjob and doubt i'll cum from gimping myself in a videogame

but im willing to try

>>170376342
>guessing is a skill

>>170372321
>assassin spams light attacks for fucking days
>runs out of stamina
>push them down
>they're abusing the shitty bug so no punish

fuck this game

>>170376464
so your suggestion is to nerf warden so everyone will just stare at each other and time out every single match?

nice ideas mate, i hope ubi is reading this

>>170376473
>you will figure it out
>he knows it's impossible so he's now deflecting

please, tell me how to DEFEND against it
roll away and burn 3x as much stamina as the warden? nice balance

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>>170374883
you either die a hero or live to become the villain.

>>170376464

Warden is not overpowered, it's that defense and turtling itself is overpowered and there's no incentive to do anything else besides wait for something to dodge or parry.

>>170376347
kys consoletard

>bloody skirmish
>50 takedowns in skirmish player vs AI
>player vs AI

y tho

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>>170376598
;^) think harder

>>170376534
making the opponent guess wrong is skill

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quick question /fhg/

Will For Honor ever get Dedicated servers....


a serious question

>>170376793
>warden mains are actually this dumb

last free (you)

>>170376597
I don't think 1/12th of the roster should have an ability that the other 11 don't. Take it away or give it to everyone else but as it stands warden is fucking broke dude.

How can you not just admit having an option that nobody else has might be a little bit OP?

>>170376730
>every character can defend
>DUDE DEFENSE IS FUCKING OVERPOWERED
>one character can force attacks
>nah bro he's not overpowered it's the defending that every character can do that's overpowered
Warden can defend too dumbass, he has offense ON TOP of defense.

>>170376793
>still deflecting
Okay so we both admit it's uncounterable, thanks.

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Warden is fun

>>170376813
No, the devs don't like the idea since their entire coding infrastructure is centered around p2p.

>>170376813
nope

>>170376813
why should it?
maybe for ranked

>>170376813
>fighting game
>dedicated servers
What do you think?

>>170376881
from a fighting game standpoint P2P is a superior method for better ping too.

Honestly if they can resolve the issue with the error drops the performance when actually in 4v4 is pretty good.

>They can't enable code to punish regular ragequitters until they stamp out the crashes.

>>170372676
>Zerker and Nobushi need buffs
>Roach needs a nerf
>Lawbringer doesn't need a buff
holy fucking shit neck yourself

>>170376868
Your logic is backwards. The correct interpretation is that other classes have underpowered offense.

>>170376929
i don't think they can work in a lag compensation system. it would be a massive undertaking. p2p is better anyway.

what they need to do is work out how to assign a new host when a player gets ledged for the last time and decides to quit the game. and leaver penalties are not the answer

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>>170372590

I think I made sure that this person will never play 4v4 ever again.

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>>170377012
Yea I have to admit other than the odd time where the game decides to jack you into the matrix and see through time the connections are actually pretty solid most of the time.

>>170376967
>>170377012
>for honor
>fighting game
p2p is fine for 1v1 but sucks dick for everything else, and everything else happens to be the most popular modes

>>170377150
I always throw forget about bows/throwing axes.

>>170377108
Loving every laugh dude
If over half the characters had offensive options I'd agree with you but as it stands, 8% of the characters in the game have a good offense.

You can't "glass half full" me when the glass is 8% full.

Warden has an overpowered offense when compared to the other 92% of characters.

But hey, at least we finally agree that warden's offense is stronger than the rest of the cast

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>>170376868
you'll think of a solution eventually

>fighting anyone as Raider
>they get exhausted
>get a GB, slam them into wall and knee, the get to stand up and if they're not blind block
>if I don't get GB, they can still just block and exhausted doesn't matter

Fuck almost all of you, except LBros.

>>170372623

I play warden and simply don't use the Vortex on him.

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>>170372590

>>170377339

I too enjoy fighting Raiders as Lawman. Too bad there's only like half a dozen of you on PS4.

how do i afk farm on pc

i hear people say "turn matchmaking off" but i dont know what that means?

also wouldnt it be safer to just afk farm in 1v1, even if it gives less?

>>170377339
When they're exhausted it's better to just throw them instead of charging into a wall. You'll get a free heavy that way.

>try playing a quick game of Dominion to quickly push myself into the next rep
>Five disconnects in a row
>Could have just spammed a few duels or brawls instead
I don't remember having this much trouble at launch. What the fuck is happening?

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>there are people in this very thread that still think they need to nerf warden - literally only perfectly balanced character

Give raider more stamina damage for GBs.

Give berserker more mobility during infinite chain.

Make Warlord headbutt and zone slower.

Make Warden zone slower. Make their GB from shoulder cancel track side dodges worse.

Rework Conq's flail spin.

Make PK zone slower. Give them more block stun from their light being blocked or make them lose more stamina for it.

Make LB heavies a bit faster.

Remove HP drain from Shugoki hug. They're not fucking vampires.

Make sprinting cost stamina after a while.

>>170377295
That's not how "underpowered" and "overpowered" works. You measure that by the ideal, not by the current average.

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>>170377332
Already have one, it's leaving every game where my opponent is a Warden

>>170377381
That doesn't help, every bash you do is a potential mixup. If you don't use bash at all you're just gimping yourself

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>>170372321
What's better for AFK farming with matchmaking off, 4v4 or dominion?

>A max gear roach can take 50% health off a lawbringer with a single top heavy
>/fhg/ used to say attack gear doesn't matter
lol

>>170377640
Lithuanian god signing in, I only play shield bask warden

>>170377671
>Warlord headbutt slower
it's a free untechable GB if you just stay far enough away to dodge backwards

Zones in general shouldn't be activated from the wrong stances

Warlord's real issue is fullblock hitconfirm

>>170377671
>Give raider more stamina damage for GBs.
I'd argue that he also is due for either a speed or damage boost.

>>170377671

The HP drain is a metaphor for him getting invigorated by performing such a display of raw strength in the heat of battle. Notice how he leans forward and unleashes a guttural yell as he drops the limp body of his victim to the ground.

Finding ways to justify all the magic and fantasy shit in this otherwise grounded game is forcing me to get creative.

>>170377819
It doesn't matter in the modes that do matter.

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>>170377852
same

>>170377640
>has two lightning fast offences, rivalled only by PK
>has extremely high dmg from wall splat
>has a move that forces the opponent to lose half their stamina and reset to neutral
>side lights hit twice and can come from two directions

>clanfags have started playing FH

welp it was a good run, time to uninstall

Reminder not to interrupt 1v1's if your teammate is already kicking the enemy's ass.

>>170377921
the modes that don't matter don't matter exclusively because gear and feats make them shit
they'd be great without them

>>170377640
>>170377852
>>170377942
Litwini jedza guwno

>>170377819

>Going from 40 damage to 45 damage with a full attack stat bar.

You sure he wasn't in revenge?

>>170377640
>Americans
>perfect English

You are a funny lad.

>>170377710
That is exactly how it works you moron.

If everyone else is underpowered then by virtue of language the best character is overpowered

>>170378071
The praise for Swedish players is also hilarious.

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>Shoryuken is posting For Honor articles
I know they like to give more exposure to other games, but that surprised me.

>>170377997

>Klanfags

Fixed that for you.
Swastikas have been in since release.

so is or is not for honor a fighting game?

>>170377982
>has two lightning fast offences, rivalled only by PK
orochi too
agree with everything else though

>do elim for order
>it's just running around like a cunt to waste everyone's time as much as possible

how is this better than skirmish again?


>>170378168
SRK has been dead for like 6 years

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>>170376464

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I think all the warden salt is pretty hilarious, why would you bitch about someone using something strong in the game in order to win, would you rather people handicap themselves so that you might stand more of a chance not learning how to counter the actual good shit in the game?

I have this sneaking suspicion you guys hate ledges too.

>>170378184
He's talking about fags rocking the same name like "F.a.G. Assraper"

>>170378213

It ends quicker, unlike Skirmish.

>>170378234
Nice I love the discussion we're having here

If you don't agree with me why don't you try to refute me with arguments?

Until then, warden is compartively OP

>>170378198
It is.

>cue fighting game autists to write a fucking dissertation on why it isn't

>>170378286
I don't blame the player, I just want the shit to get balanced by the devs so we don't have this problem

So the shugoki bug still hasn't been fixed yet?

>>170378286
anybody who replies to this post is a fucking faggot and should be gassed

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>>170376881
hmm makes sense..
>>170376918
True
>>170376967
>>170376929
>>170377191
Thank you /fhg/ for you asnwer now time for bed and awating oaycheck

i will buy For Honor

have some calming images

>>170378286
You need to reskin that ugly ass blade fast.

>>170378213
>SRK has been dead for like 6 years
To be fair, had I not seen the article on SRK, I would never have been introduced to Absolver.

>>170376323
>It's the 1 offensive mixup in the game that forces the enemy to go on offence
not if their attacks are slower retard, then they'll just lose trades

the reason why them eta is so defensive and centered around having a fullblock is because warden and peacekeeper's zone mixes.

>>170377982
>has two lightning fast offences, rivalled only by PK
30 and 24frames vs 24 and 18 frames for pk
same as roach
>has extremely high dmg from wall splat
40, kensei - 45, pk 60+
>has a move that forces the opponent to lose half their stamina and reset to neutral
is punished if guessed right
>side lights hit twice and can come from two directions
24 dmg(35 frames) while pk does 17+15 for 2 lights and roach does 30 with top double

>>170377339
Grab
Throw behind you
Dash and up heavy, follow up by making them eat the pizzas.
never fail.

>>170378198
Even though it doesn't immediately look like it, yes: For Honor is absolutely a fighting game (if you can get past the lack of local offline multiplayer). Hell, For Honor will be featured at Final Round 20.

>>170378286
>claiming an option should be nerfed is totally the same as bashing people for using that option!
what a triggered retard

>>170378464
Maybe I'm just not quick enough, but it feels like fighting an exhausted player and fighting one that isn't doesn't matter too much for the Raider. I notice it a lot better when playing other classes though.

>>170377720
>That doesn't help, every bash you do is a potential mixup. If you don't use bash at all you're just gimping yourself
>you're just gimping yourself

That's the point. I like to show people that you can play Warden without relying on his bash every single time you do anything ever. People forget that Warden's feint game is top-notch, his top light can be used to counter rather than just be used to start a vortex. You can link a heavy right with two lights on the side, as most people will be expecting the bash, it catches them by surprise.

The shoulder bash spam is so fucking boring to do, playing without it and "gimping yourself" is a lot more fun while still having a very powerful and versatile character. I mean, I will still use the bash on conqueror/warlord just to open them up. but I won't vortex, and I won't do it every time I go for them. If they're sitting there waiting for the vortex and it never comes fucks with people's heads more than the vortex does.

>>170377191
>p2p is fine for 1v1
see >>170373936

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>>170378563
yea your opinion on game balance is probably golden

>>170378234
okay, if you really aren't trying to bait for responses. Warden having a tool to open the shitty top three defense meta doesn't make him broken. his shoulder bash is only actually useful for doing this and the "vortex" is nullified by rolling away. if the answer to your "inescapable unfair meme strat" is literally to ESCAPE IT, i don't see what you are trying to argue. Are you really trying to argue in favor of people just standing totally still waiting for someone to move and just playing full turtle simulator? In a fighting game? Are you really arguing against the merit of one class at least having a way to deal with this stagnation of gameplay other then playing one of the problem classes? Are you really arguing this?

>>170378649
>If they're sitting there waiting for the vortex and it never comes fucks with people's heads more than the vortex does.
but that's exactly why you're still using the mixup

the simple fact that you have it forces people to play differently against your character

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>>170378443
>this post will get no replies because it doesn't fit the Warden hater narrative

>>170378692
at least I don't get personally offended when someone says muh warden isn't perfectly balanced

>>170378723
>"vortex" is nullified by rolling away
>he loses 10 stamina
>I lose 50
balanced

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i like to see what you guys come up with

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>>170378758
You have to play differently against every character.

>>170378758

That's because people have grown so accustomed to it. It's not using a "mixup", its simply playing with expectations. In fact, it's the exact opposite of a mixup.

>parry shugoki
>AD MORTEM
>hits you anyway because muh armor

Who thought this was a good idea

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>warden gets so salty he forces the timer on the next game then quits right before

>>170378875
this is your argument? okay, how about hitting him with a side light when he comes in and interrupting him mid bash? which would also stop the gb?

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>>170378805
>most versatile
>longsword

>>170378875
you do realize that you will regen full stamina before he can catch up to you right?
stamina does regenerate but you already knew that right?

>Had a good couple of fights with a Rep 3 Warden as Rep 1 LB
>Close, back and forth fights
>Nice friendly feel
>I teach him about the Shoulder bash into GB cancel since I got Warden to Rep 3 myself
>Game crashes

Fucking thanks Ubi.

>>170378443
>has the one questionable part of roach's kit
>the one thing which completely carries roach and keeps him from being raider tier
>it's okay for warden to have this alongside all those other tools
>no mention of CCS's trade potential

>is punished if guessed right
wow just like literally every attack in the game, good job

what do the stars next to an item mean?

>>170377640
Kensei is the only perfectly balanced character in the game

>>170379006
Not that guy, but sorry, the warden needs some adjustments. Not nearly as much as the PK.

>>170379116
That the item needs to be repaired because it is broken

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>>170378815
yes, as my posts have been steeped with rage instead of mirth

regardless, if you think what warden does is broken and can't even step into the context of the other top characters (who are all consistently doing better than warden in tournaments), aka warlord, PK, and Conq, and your argument is indeed NERF THE STRONG OPTIONS yea you're not really worth getting angry at.

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>>170378882
ayy

>>170379078
you can be bad but please don't spread your wrong opinions here

wardens zone is also punished on block
throwing zone vs a good player is like writing your own death wish
>lose half of your stamina
>get guard broken
>get bashed/headbutted/spammed

>>170379138
agree, everything else is either too strong or too weak.

anyone on PC wanna start an afk farm lobby?

>>170378936
JUST WARDEN THOUGH ACTUALLY
you can roll and parry everyone else, you have to use different tactics against the warden

>>170378945
Yes but you're using it as a mixup by not using it.

>>170379006
>>170379073
>hit him with a light
Oh look we've circled right back to the fact that rolling and attacking are the only two counters. Let me reiterate that no other character forces you to select either of those options.

>Shugoki? Valk? Nobushi? LB? Raider? etc Dodge or parry.
>Warden? Roll or attack
but it's cool because everyone else "should" be able to do it right?

>>170378954
shugoki is for ledging by design

i am conqueror and have enough trouble as is, but after a couple fights where a shugoki gained a stack of hyper armor in the middle of his sliver-of-hp grab and ate a heavy on the way in, i realized he is just there to get ledged

>>170379149
lets adjust the gross rewarding of the defense meta before we take away one of the only thing that fights it though first eh? While i dont agree with you that warden is as broken ass you make it out to be, i can agree that there could be some tuning to make him a little less powerful. but as it stands he is still one of the only ways to open a full defense, and I'm sorry but we kinds of need that at the moment.

>>170379338
you should get better 1st before you start posting about balance
please play at least 300 duel matches before you post here again

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>>170379241
two down one to go then

Why does Conquerors shield bash knock you down when hes in revenge

This sum bullshiet

>>170379490
Because all knockbacks are powered up to knockdowns in revenge mode.

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>>170379338
>only two counters
>as in more than none
>having to fight different classes in different ways
"why cant i have the same blanket strat for everything i play against? why do we even have variety here if i cant just be the same and do the same for everything i come across?"

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>>170379351
I don't think he's broken, just needs some tweaking and is the character I have the 2nd hardest time against. Fuck the PK though.

>pic related what I play and would do to every PK player if could

>>170378443
>30 and 24 frames
That's extremely fast. I should say only bested by PK.
>has extremely high dmg from wall splat
Are you ignoring the fact that Kensei's is an unblockable and costs half his stamina for literally only FIVE more damage? Yes, PK is OP. We know this
>is punished if guessed right
Is punished by a single light attack if guessed right. Is rewarded by a heavy or a double side light if guessed wrong.
>24 dmg(35 frames) while pk does 17+15 for 2 lights and roach does 30 with top double

Again, I'm aware that PK is broken. Roach's always comes from the top so it's an extremely predictabel move. Warden's can come from right or left and can be chained from a shoulder bash.

>>170379490
Same for all characters with a bash.

>>170379490
You should be more upset about warlords headbutt knocking you down.

That's the real bullshit

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>high activity
>goes up against the same 4 premade 5 times in a row

>>170378805
>buh buh we're a persecuted minority on a Bhutanese flower arranging message board

>>170379586
I'm guessing shit like this happens because there's an extremely heavy favor towards low latency between players.

>>170379338
>Yes but you're using it as a mixup by not using it.

I don't think you know what that word entails. I had my suspicions at first, but I'm starting to get a bit clued in.

Would anyone like to help me with the orders for doing 5 matches with a friend since i'm a giant shitter with none of those?
IGN tyranoidd / pc / NA

>>170379565
can only by chained form a gb or a shoulder bash
you will get parried vs someone with brain if you throw it out in neutral

refer to this >>170379452

>>170379351
>as it stands he is still one of the only ways to open a full defense
>i dont agree with you that warden is as broken
Okay look, what if I don't want to play Warden?

What do you suggest I do?

You admit he is the only character able to defeat a certain tactic, that means in order to defeat the tactic I am forced to play Warden. Why are you justifying this?

No, a defensive meta is not good, but a meta consisting of one character is thousands of times worse.

>>170379452
130 hours 7 rep

>>170379538
>why do we even have variety here if i cant just be the same and do the same for everything i come across?
One character does not variety make, if I had to learn a different strategy for fighting every character then you'd have a point.

As it stands, I learn one strategy to encompass the tactics of 92% of the roster. The one remaining character requires a different strategy. Why are you defending a one character meta over a defensive but varied meta?

>>170379730
Not doing an attack is literally and unironically half of a mixup

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Stop ganking

tfw you get killed by a PK who only throws heavies because you're so used to lights

>>170379564
pks are a little overtuned at the moment to say the least. i have faith that things will be balanced in time

>>170379861
dominion does not count
pls play at least 300 duel games before posting again

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>>170378882
I like bottom right a lot
Is this where you post and rate? I'm having issues cleaning up the bottom right

>>170379980
Nice try dumbass I don't play anything but 1v1 and 2v2 with a friend.

I don't even do the missions in the 4v4 modes.

>>170379980
>pls play at least 300 duel games before posting again
>pls fulfill my arbitrary requirements before posting again
"no."

i might have the most pk's of any conqueror on xbox

Total rep 16
Highest rep 5

Who else here
D I V E R S E
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>>170378805
source?

>>170380114
opinion discarded, then
go play your dominion and be happy there

>>170379861
>What do you suggest I do?
Ask for buffs to who you DO play.

>>170380146
>Total rep 11
>Highest rep 3
>Total of 2x rep 3's, 2x rep 2's, 1x rep 1.

>>170380175
Nice job ignoring the post where I (the warden hater) blew you out

>>170380197
>j-j-just ask for buffs!
How about I ask for nerfs, I think it would be easier to bring one down instead of 11 up.

>>170380175
>implying I haven't played a ton of duels
>implying I just don't like your pretentious posting

>>170380117
What?

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>>170380290
how did you exactly blew me out?
you just stated you feelings, i see no argument in any of your posts

>>170380168
You really do not want the source.

Apparently that page is the only one that has that sort of writing.

Everything else is utterly bat shit insane 12-year-old fanfiction drivel.

>>170380175
>I, the guy plays exclusively warden, have investigated if wardens are OP and have determined that since I lost once or twice they are not
>plus I like how easy this game is for me
>signed, warden

>>170379861
then you could become part of the problem and play the warlord or the conc. the reason they are considered top tier is that while they are all a little cheesy, they can deal with each other. the problem is that while you can beat a warden who uses the """"vortex"""" you will have a substantially harder time fighting a full defensive like warlord or conc, especially if you don't play one of the aforementioned. I main berzerker, and its a nightmare to fight warlord and conc, and while its not very fun to play really good wardens, at least i can DO something to them.
The meta doesnt consist one one char, it consists of the easy mode things and the things that beat them, the rest fall to the bottom. warlord and conc and just wait and punish, where as warden and to a lesser extent shugoki are punish people who are to passive. Anything else falls below them and there is backed up by the representation you see in game. if you dont want to beat the meta with the meta you can put yourself at a disadvantage, but, you are doing just that. sorry but its how things work.

>>170380370
>literally braindead 50/50
>styled on

You winning a RPS fight would be more impressive because at least that's 33/33/33

>>170378805
Let me guess, she pulled some naruto tier bullshit and won the fight?

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>>170380449
stay bad, people i play against have learned how to deal with it

>>170380529
>she

>>170380527
Come on man, he at least parried once!

>>170380025
yeah man bprd is legit. i think you can do better then your bottom right desu senpai, i like your other emblems tho

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>>170380621

I should be surprised, yet I'm not.

>Vikings and knights are both on the weebs' doorstep
Temporary alliance?

>>170380616
>see 2 wardens literally hitting the same 2 buttons over and over again

>>170380629
I like that he only posts fights against orochis that don't know orochi only has 2 attacks

>>170379828
That's not me you retard.

>can only be chained from a gb or a shoulder bash
You do realise you can start a shoulder bash from neutral right?
>it will get parried
Every single attack in the game will get parried against a good player, even peacekeeper attacks. If you don't know when to use attacks to throw off your oponent, or how to mixup and be unpredictable, that's your fault.

Seems to me like you're the one who's shit here.

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>>170379861
>Not doing an attack is literally and unironically half of a mixup

A mixup is when you are given a choice to guess what attack you will do next, which often is the case with a Vortex. Not doing a vortex, is not a mixup because you're not actually doing it. That's mind-games, and/or playing the expectations.
Mixup is a guessing game. It is part of an active process, if you have to block high or low. Or in this case, if you have to dodge or counter guard break. Not opening up that choice to begin with - is not a mixup.

It's like saying, not throwing hadokens mid-screen in street fighter as a Shoto is a mixup because you could be doing that and it makes no goddamn sense why you're not, but this is apparently high level mixups. Do you see how dumb that is?

>>170380370
this post here
>>170380052
where I tell you I don't even touch 4v4

>>170380473
Warlord and Conq are not on the same planet as Warden, I've played all three.

I'm not even going to read the rest of that post

Don't you love when you GB someone as Raider and throw them against a wall but your side heavy doesn't connect on time because you hit a tiny piece of wall first?

>>170380743
Weebs gotta die.

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Friendly reminder that warden won't get nerfed and that you just need to adapt your fighting style against a warden.

Or the alternative and highly recommended "get good, my dude".

>>170380864
friendly reminder that no other character will get buffed to Warden's level but Warden mains will cry that they "should be"

>>170380864
>its a rerun of the "warden isn't OP, just git gud!" episode
I'm changing the channel

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>>170380759
>shoulder bash from neutral
>not interrupted
>stay bad in bronze

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>>170380864
>Friendly reminder that warden won't get nerfed

>>170380356
player kills bro

i got a message today and looked it up. you're now talking to the deadliest conqueror on the deadliest/deadest console

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>be warden
>duel against conq
>doesn't attack
>shield bash and grabs until i miss the CGB
>get environment killed twice
>"i need environment because warden is broken"
>position myself better
>win the next 2 rounds
>round 5
>go to a part of the map without hazards
>he stands across the map on a broken bridge
>2 min go past
>"nootname has been replaced by a bot"

cant make this shit up

>>170380994
the only time I've ever interruped a bash was when he happened to bash while I happened to be attacking

my attacks are literally too slow in terms of frame data

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>>170380370
>these graphics