/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

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kryptec is pig disgusting

are challenges glitched for anyone else?

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>WHITEbois THINK THEY HAVE A CHANCE

>>170362545
yep, all platforms

>>170362720
At least they are consistent.

first for echo = best defender!

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>footage taken from PC version

why does capitao look like shrek?

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>>170363018
Capitao looks exactly like my former Portuguese kitchen manager, we've even discussed BOPE

did they do something with the patch?
game takes fucking forever to load now. this isn't normal..

>>170362648
mr. West, the very least you could do is leave twitch alone. you can keep iq

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>>170363017
please delete this.

>>170363017
>footage taken from PC version with a controller

amirite, us mousebros would never aim that ha...

>>170363404
Hello TS_bibi

>>170363017
The other guy being just as shit makes me think this is in casual

>>170362872
>21 dmg with smg
>5 shots to down
k

>>170363017
https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/TS_bibi
He is shit anon

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>>170362397
kinda proud of this actually, seeing steady improvement.

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>>170363706
>tfw I barely have higher K/D ratio than him
Should I end my life?

>>170363917
git gud anon

How can they manage to fuck up something so basic as challenges?

>>170363917
If it's your first FPS game then no otherwise yes

>>170362542
I thought I was the only one who hated it. Its basically the "nothin personnel kid" of camos.

>>170363017
How the fuck are they BOTH that bad

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>>170363893
H...How am I anon

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>>170363706
>significantly better stats than me with 30 fewer hours in game and aim that literally looks like he was using a gamepad

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>>170364009
I'm trying
At least I know my aim is leagues beyond his

>>170364070
It's not
I can aim just fine, if not rather well, my problem is mostly getting outplayed/doing something stupid in a manner where I don't get a chance at shooting back. I feel like I'm slowly starting to get better and am starting to make better plays and know what to do better at least

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>>170364084
i just want the Russians to get Russian camos you know

>>170364323
having less than a 1.00 is shamefur dispray, anon

>>170364438
Not really. It's not possible for everyone to have over 1.0.

Someone has to below or else the math wouldn't add up.

>>170364323
>16.7 hours
>Level 29
well you are still new, I'd worry if you were level 80+ with 1k/d

>>170364492
well duh, but you dont get gud by not being above average

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>>170364438
no bully, I'm making my way there anon, my K/D ratio used to be lower

>>170364492
Being above 1.0 means you're in the top 50% of players, at least when ranked by K/D.

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>>170364390
This uniform for Russian Ops when?

https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/Benmans404

pls no bully

>>170364942
...Jesus christ anon get ur shit to positive b4 u hit 100

>>170364942
That's rough.

>>170364709
not bad good for urban ops

>>170364942
>caveira
fuck youre probably one of these getting killed 10s into round

>>170365043
>>170365046
My K/D was .5 before I took a several weeks break. I sometimes get 11 kills in a round now but never consistently and sometimes I finish 0/5.

>>170365073
Don't worry, I don't play her anymore. Frost's traps are much more my jam now

>>170363614
>using the mp5
>ignoring his gadget
he's wrong, Echo's far from being the best defender, but come on now

Why the fuck are uniforms so fucking expensive


I don't have enough time to grind fucking renown, I barely could get enough in the prev year to get 8 DLC operator


30k renown is too fucking much and I won't spend another 40 euro to get shit I want


Fuck you ubi

>>170365223
>shotgun where they will never go near on site
>yokai where the ops immediately run when hit and ur ass is too fat to catch up with the ops

>>170365345
but new fuze uniform is fucking shitty

>>170365345
>Wahhh I don't want to work for my cool gear
>I won't spend another 40 Eur...
Hang on u actually spent money on cosmetics u could buy with renown? It makes getting the gear all sweeter.

So how come For Honor has a weekly stream yet Siege has never gotten one in its life after release?

>>170365345
>and I won't spend another 40 euro to get shit I want
And that's how Ubi gets you
You'll cave
eventually

Shit's expensive just so people will cave in and spend money on worthless virtual commodities

>>170365362
Maybe you should coordinate with your teammates so they can finish off enemies that get yokai'd

>>170365512
Cause Siege is an actual successful game.

>>170365362
>shotgun where they will never go near on site
what did he mean by this?
>yokai where the ops immediately run when hit and ur ass is too fat to catch up with the ops
You're not supposed to hit ops as soon as you see them, it's used to stall as they push numb-nuts.
And no shit he's slow, you're not supposed to roam with him, he's a point defender.
Don't tell me you're that fuckboy that thinks he should be 3 speed...

>>170365345
If the gear was too cheap people that actually play the game would have nothing to spend their renown on. It's a luxury item, not everyone's supposed to have it just because they want it.

>>170365576
Those kind of people are weak-willed, and need to grow a spine.

>>170365512

Something something thinking emoji

>>170365345
The base operators and weapon attachments are can be unlocked fairly quickly. DLC ops and cosmetics being expensive gives you something to keep on playing and grind for.

>>170365512
Different team.

>>170365436
>new uniform
Where?

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>>170365705
>>170365656
fuck no 2 speed or a better smg. You are going to be stuck on site, how is a shotgun supposed to help when the enemy will be ready to check every nook and cranny. I already explained everything in my last thread, but he is overdesigned.

>>170365782
>Where?
>>170361520

If the challenge bug is like the other week, your contributions are still counted in the background, but you can't redeem the rewards until they fix the bug.

Anyone else hate the blur that gets on your screen when you get hit by bullets? If there is someone hosing you down from a corner you can't even properly return fire because your peripheral vision is covered in shit.

>>170365468
The 40 euro was the whole fucking game at 2016 January, I'd never spend irl money on shitty cosmetical stuff

>People posting stats
Aight

R-R-R-R-Rate
https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/annchovy

>>170366001
How about they make his gadget more potent or flexible instead of fucking with his speed?
Yeah sure his mp5 could use buffs, but his gadget's designed around Echo essentially acting as a stationary turret controller. He needs to sit still to use his gadget anyways, and that's when he has the most powerful effect on the round. His speed doesn't need to be changed.

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my stats are racist

>>170366214
Did u miss the steam sale? I swore that it was 15 bucks then.

https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/cheekibandit

I like how my best operators are defense and I fucking hate defense

>>170366502
>no ranked playtime
scared white boi?

>>170366242
you will get better
https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/socklessness

>>170366502

>43 hours on buck

How

>>170366242
not bad

https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/Tenth__
pls rate my face

>>170366386
Except his turret does nothing but spooks the operators to safety. I see potential in him as an ambusher where he can hide in a room with his drone and quickly pop out while the enemy is stunned. That is impossible to do with his slow speed.
You are sort of agreeing with me here, because I said smg buff or speed increase. His gun is way too weak to take on an attacker with basically twice the dmg they do with his gun. If they buffed his smg, he would be somewhat good defender.

>>170366572

fuck ranked

>>170366794
kd needs to be positive bro.

>>170366923
i play games to have fun bro.

>>170366879
you get shiny charms.

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>>170364942
you're still not as bad as my friend.

>>170366817
>"Yeah sure his mp5 could use buffs"
You're right, I did explicitly agree with you, nice reading comprehension.
>Except his turret does nothing but spooks the operators to safety
It provides intel, and in a perfect world he'd be a more flexible/stealthy version of Valk that has the drawbacks of needing to stay alive for full effect and needing to use voice callouts for good communication. Ability to stall pushes and disrupt hearing (which is the most important of Yokai's effects) are additional supplements to his kit, the sonic burst isn't the core of it.

>>170367016
I thought half the fun was improving yourself at the game and getting good?

Am I gud yet?
https://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/Please_Ban_Me

>>170367135
whats the other half?

http://r6stats.com/stats/uplay/theboyofleg/

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>>170367023
>my friend
yeah sure thing buddy

>>170367129
>It provides intel, and in a perfect world he'd be a more flexible/stealthy version of Valk that has the drawbacks of needing to stay alive for full effect and needing to use voice callouts for good communication. Ability to stall pushes and disrupt hearing (which is the most important of Yokai's effects) are additional supplements to his kit, the sonic burst isn't the core of it.
I don't think intel is what ubi was going for. If it was also supposed to be what ubi wanted, the lack of a ping option says that ubi was not necessarily thinking of it being used for intel.
When the trailer came out for red crow, it said otherwise as it showed echo popping out right after he stunned someone.

At the end of the day, I think I see what he could potentially become and I really want it compared to what ubi is going for.

>>170366879
It's a superior gamemode, honestly I wish casual had the reduced timer and would at least let the attackers pick their spawn.

>>170367248
the gameplay

>>170367536
thanks for your feedback friend

do you think tachanka will ever become viable or will ubisoft forever keep him at meme tier to please reddit

>>170367792
...shit did I accidently just fill out a customer survey form for ubisoft?

>>170365345
you can grind 150k over a weekend

get a booster my man

>>170367830
Mounted stationary units have no place in r6 sadly. There is just too many counters to them. Like unless Tachanka had a segway or some shit it would not ever be viable.

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>>170367407
Defenders being able to is more important. You're basically screwed on some maps by the random selection.

I am very bad at this game.

>>170367407
casual used to, but they took it out for some reason.

>>170368004
It shouldn't be a bipod stand. It should just be a secondary gun he can use with a small deployable detachment he can use when looking over cover/laying prone.

>>170367406
>the lack of a ping option says that ubi was not necessarily thinking of it being used for intel
I think that was for balance and playstyle diversity, not to shoehorn his role. (Also you have to assume that they made him a 3 armor consciously, and not "just because, lol")
Since his drone has stealth capabilities and additional utility, it was a decision made to force Echos to be more passive compared to a Valk or Pulse, and to make his playstyle more distinct. They even gave him a fancy comms headset so you can assume that has some relationship with his inability to spot, and soft-requirement of vocal communication to be effective.
His major weakness comes from, being a point defender and only having one drone to watch his flanks or immediate surroundings. The amount of flexibility with where you should put your drone is reduced since you need to defend yourself in the point unless your teammates have your back.
His burst is powerful, especially because of the animation cancel capabilities, but it mostly shines outside of bomb due to how it makes attackers super deaf, leaving them open to roamer ambushes.

At the end of the day I see him as an intel and coordination operator that fills a unique role. I don't want them to change him into another ambush op that focuses on getting kills, his passive playstyle is what makes him stand out and it'd be a waste of potential to just make him focused on independent killing power.

>>170367830
no the "buff" is hot garbage, his recoil is astronomical and the whole turret gimmick is not useful in most situations. Just get rid of the tripod

>>170368124
This. Give him the LMG as his only primary and a bipod to set up in certain spots if the player wants to.

>>170368164
>>170368124
>>170368297
>>170368004
He could keep his current tripod if he could deploy and pick it up much, much faster, How stuck in place he is when using it is his number one weakness. Pushing his playstyle from a braindead "I sit one place ooga booga" into a constantly repositioning surprise/ambush Op would make him much stronger, and possibly fun to play.

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the similarity was driving me crazy

>>170368447
i really liked pre patch tachanka. rip

>>170368124
Interesting, but how different would that be from standard machine guns already in the game?
>>170368162
Interesting theory, but I kind of find it hard that the "soft-requirement" for using Echo is a mic. Ubisoft should know that not all people have that requirement so I find it hard to believe that this was their idea.
The reason I believe is too overdesigned is because that you need intricate communication to be effective with him. How would that exactly translate into casual where people do not take it seriously with little communication? If you can't practice it in casual, how would u do in ranked?

>>170368447
this sounds fun actually.

i love tachanka as a character. i think his loud personallity is fun and a good foil to the other spetsnaz. him being useless is such a shame

>>170368635
cowabunga dude

>>170368938
You shouldn't be designing operators for all level of play. He's already stronger at higher levels, where communication is generally higher, and Ubi has already been known to design around pro level play with Siege, so arguing that they didn't intend to give him that limitation doesn't really hold up. Making him simpler just because he's hard to play on a casual level just removes the finesse and fun for people that enjoy playing him at a higher level, like me. I enjoy being forced to use vocal communication, and more than anything if I'm playing ranked with pubs I prefer not having a spotting ability for my teammates to fuck over my one and only drone with. Letting teammates not look through or operate your drone forces him to want to stay alive, which like I said before is a limitation I think they should build around instead of abandoning.
He's not overdesigned by any means, he should honestly be given more depth somehow, since currently once his one and only drone is dead he's just a fatty with a mixed-quality gun selection.
If what you enjoy of him is ambushing people in mid range and roaming outside of the objective with him, there are other ops that can do that already, and better. They shouldn't redesign Echo to make him fit that role when Smoke and Valkyrie are already capable of that playstyle.

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>>170368938
They could make it so it does way more damage than regular machine guns but he can only fire it non-ads when the bipod isn't deployed.

>spawnpeek with turret
>get headshot
>shield not even hit once

>>170362545
Yeah, sucks, I want that commonwealth charm

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First for fuck off redditor cucks

>Started playing on PC after playing on the Bone a lot
>Feel like i'm dragging the team down as a recruit and trying to get used PC Siege

Suffering

>>170370051
recruit is the best character

>>170370175
Recruit really is the best character. I would play them permanently if you could customize the weapons.

>>170370051
hang in there anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

>>170370175
Think i'm just way to used to Mute for defence and Montagne/Thatcher on attack

>>170368938
The point of a firearm bipod is that, by making a point of contact with an immovable surface, the gun is much more accurate and has much more managable recoil. His current tripod should help with this also, but it has large recoil for seemingly balance reason. Making it powerful, have high recoil when shoulder fired, and very little recoil on bipod (just like Red Orchestra), would make sense.

>>170370883
>>170369719
Exactly.

>>170369719
>>170370883
So we saying "fuck the shield"?

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>>170370032
Fuck me what a cringe place

>>170371495
Shield could work either way, it's just the lack of mobility that's the killer. Tachanka's turret could have a Montagne-type shield, and it'd still be weaker than if he simply wasn't anchored in place while using his turret.

>>170371495
id say fuck the shield, it adds too much recoil

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>>170366707
>not playing glorious maple syrup operators

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>>170371621
>try and find the reddit thread
>Use the search
>It failed
>refresh
>and I get this
How is this acceptable, how is this cancer a popular site if they don't even know how contrast works.

>>170371495

Not either of them, but having the shield would be fine since it'd give Tachanka a reason to put his turret in a more exposed area, and more options are always good when you're as weak as he is.

>>170372198
I think the person who runs each forum gets to choose it's color scheme, and not everyone understands basic UI standards.

>>170372198
youre trying too hard dude, we already know reddit is garbage, but this isnt why

>>170372395
I could've mentioned that the search function doesn't automatically search the subreddit but entire reddit.

I could have gone harder for you anon.. <3

>>170372546
theres literally a checkbox to search the subreddit man

>>170372198
It's on the front page of r/Rainbow6

>>170369561
>You shouldn't be designing operators for all level of play.
I agree, but it's important not to make anyone completely useless in, say, silver. Don't ever take anyone below that into account, though

That said, expecting players to have a mic for Echo isn't unreasonable at all. He would be better if he could mark, but at the end of the day it's just a fact that this game is MEANT to be played with a mic.

>I'm playing ranked with pubs I prefer not having a spotting ability for my teammates to fuck over my one and only drone with
Teammates can't look through it, though.

I think Echo would be a lot more viable in solo casual if they let teammates look through his drone and let him (but not his teammates) mark with it. I don't think either of these changes would reduce his skill ceiling.

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http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/11/10/rainbow-six-siege-beta-changes-to-the-final-game-revealed/

>During the Closed Beta, players above clearance level 20+ had a kill-death ratio of 1.96 while playing shield operators, and 1.31 without.
Reminds me of Blackbeard

>>170372805
make shields great again

>>170372805
Do they still track the current average KDR somewhere?

>>170372805
That was when you could hard aim with a shield and INSTANTLY get full accuracy. They slowed it down a ton so players actually have a chance.


This is why I want shields to stay bad. As soon as they're good they ruin the game for everyone.

>>170373364
The devs most likely track it, but it's something they probably won't release

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What happened to the anon that did the frost lewds? I remember he posted something that had 4-5 things he was planning to do.

>>170373364
I dunno I looked for it but couldn't find it.
>>170373556
They definitely track it and I'm pretty sure they used to publicly release it but like I said I can't find it now

>>170372784
>Teammates can't look through it, though
>would be a lot more viable in solo casual if they let teammates look through his drone
I figured you were implying that should be changed, which is part of what I'm disagreeing with.
>I don't think either of these changes would reduce his skill ceiling
I don't think they would either, but my point remains that they should increase his potency in other ways and use his current limitations as balancing factors for more power or flexibility over Valk.

>>170373592
More than five, and I'm still here. Still drawing, don't worry, I'm just being a little too much of a perfectionist with my current piece.

>>170373592
The last 3 or 4 threads atleast have been nothing but bitching going on i've hardly seen a single drawfriend post at all
wish people would stop fighting in this general

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>>170374007

>>170374007

Boy I can send you to atleast 5 generals that are ANGRY ALL THE TIME

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>>170374007
>hardly seen a single drawfriend post at all
We've been slower than we were a few threads ago, but that was a rush compared to how it normally is

Can you guys not meme ubi into buffing blitz, I like him the way he is rn and everyone's gonna pick him when he gets buffed and then no one will when he gets nerfed after buff

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*flashes red*

>>170374308
I just want them to fix bullets passing through shields. They don't even need to fix his fat head.

>>170374007
I'm slowly watching through the Ctrl+Paint videos that one of the drawfriends posted so I can do more than just draw over existing images and learn ways to improve my art so I can make my own true OC, like little comic ideas I have

IS THE FUCKING CHALLENGE BUG FIXED YET?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>170374308
Buff blitz is codeword for "fix his bugs"

>>170373592
yoooo is this picture done yet

>>170374007
Wait we fight? I thought we banter all the time, but not legit fighting.

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>>170374602
>Ubisoft
>Fixed

>>170373451
The ADS accuracy delay only came months after the game's release. What gave the shields in beta their power was being able to ADS without exposing their head, only sticking out their arm in front of the shield's viewport.

I believe they may have also had 100% hipfire accuracy with a laser sight on the first shot, but I'm not sure if this was only in the alpha.

>>170374276
man, i know what those threads are, thats why i only brose stalker and siege general

Einsatzgruppen skin for bandit when?

>>170374604
>>170374449
Yeah but half the playerbase is plebbit tier and can't deal with shields so it's kind of needed, I've learned that if you play your cards right with blitz it doesn't matter. It's as simple as not getting into long distance firefights and flashing as soon as possible but waiting for the right moment.

>>170373685
That wasn't me, I just joined this conversation.

I agree that teammates shouldn't be able to spot through his drone, but I think it's a good idea to make him more viable in casual, and letting teammates look through it without spotting would help a great deal with that. People use Casual to practice for Ranked, and some people like me don't play Ranked at all.
Letting him (and only him) spot through the drone would also help a great deal and make him playable for people who don't have mics. Like I said, I don't think it's a huge deal that he practically requires a mic, but I think it would be a net benefit for the game to make him more viable without it, especially since there are challenges that require you to play either him or Hibana.

Letting him spot would be fine, letting teammates look through his drone wouldn't be as good but would help, and both would be ideal.

>>170374802

this

>>170374731
Man I have been shitposting here for 5 hrs. When are they going to fix it?

Should I buy Capitao or Echo? I was certain it was going to be capitao until they took his frags. Im leaning towards echo now, but his mp5sd scares me, is it that bad? Its basically echos hability sounds more interesting but capitaos guns sound less bad.

>>170374898
The same day they fix the Elo glitch and Hibana's charges not detonating.

>>170374276

Name them.

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>>170374578
Good on you buddy, keep it up.

>>170374007
Fighting's been super light compared to our recent bad threads. It's been fine for a while, unless you mean game balance discussions and such, which are hardly fighting since most people haven't been getting autistic and defending their ideas with a burning passion.

>>170374703
Dude check the booru, that pic's been done for probably close to a week.

>>170374703
It's already done. Look in the booru. Literally everything's in there.

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>Challenges are bugged again

Guess I wont be playing until theyre fixed then

>>170374929
Capitao. Echo is a bit lackluster atm. I guess Capitao is too since he got his nades taken away, but he is still viable.

>>170374929
Use the nova/bearing combo on Echo, it's more fun, but the MP5 sd has an acog so it's immeadiately better at holding tighter angles anyways, so it's fine to pick if you're in a bigger site/map too. I'd go for Echo personally, but they're both kind of in the "almost really good" territory right now.

>>170374965
Apparently that is on the 14th or some shit.

>>170374929
echo
capitao is unfun and ugly

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>>170374802
>Implying Bandit would dress up as a fucking loser

>>170375303
ur ugly, don't make fun of the only Brazilian I like :/

>>170374929
Echo is just an aggressively mediocre op. He's really held back by his pointless heavy armor status, and the fact that his drone's stun is unreliable as hell if the enemy is moving at all.
His MP5 is a piece of shit too, but at least he has a pocket SMG better than it and a good shotgun, so that alone doesn't completely fuck him.

>>170375103
>>170375194
Hmm, using echo as a makeshift smoke sounds interesting. Pick shotgun to make holes, use bering as primary and barbed wire to slow attackers. Not too sure if you are supposed to use the yokai like smokes beauties tho (to stop attackers push once the time is ending)

>>170374929

Having a shit primary doesn't mean that much for Echo since the Bearing 9 is great, and apparently the Supernova is an upper tier shotgun. The only thing that sucks about him is Yokai's fragility, since a single bullet turns him into a glorified Recruit. It's a little dangerous now that IQ is actually getting picked now.

>>170375551
Not really. All they do is disorientate your enemy and 9/10 times they will just run away safetly making u lose their position. Also "slowing attackers" who can 3 shot you does not sound too fun.

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>>170374986

>>170375349

Krauts are used to it by now.

>>170375682
But shield is useless, isnt it?

>>170375873

I've never seen anyone call deployable shield useless. It's plenty useful, especially on Echo since it gives him more places to drone safely on objective.

>>170375352
U dont like caveira m8? She thicc as fuck. What are you, gay?

>>170375873
Deployable shield? It's good for blocking doorways, especially if Kapkan or Frost puts a trap behind it, and you can use it to block lines of sight when you're camping in the objective.

>>170376004
nah she's cancer and a cunt.

>>170375349
He did fight against the RAF and it fits with the rest of the WW2 skins.

I think it's fitting.

>>170375995
I just assumed it since everyone worships barbed wire. What is the use for it other than hiding obvious frost traps? Its just a "theres a guy behind this" sign.

have they fixed the challenges yet?

>>170376057
>cancer
She's B tier at best and easily baited.

>>170375873
Any smart player will know if there is a deployable shield there is usually someone behind it.

>>170376130
You can block lines of sight or give yourself cover in rooms that don't normally have much, like 1st floor bathroom on Consulate. If you place it in doorways it needs to be vaulted over.

>Its just a "theres a guy behind this" sign.
Except when there's no guy behind it and it just makes the other team paranoid.

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>when I play as characters other than Glaz on attack and all I can think of is playing Glaz and sniping people

>>170376130

It makes entering a room riskier since they have to commit to it instead of peeking a corner quickly and running out. Also blocks Twitch drones as a small extra. And more cover is always good.

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>people citing dps or damage per shot to determine if a gun is good or not
>in a game with one shot kills at any range with any weapon

really makes you think

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>>170376378
>dps or damage per shot

>>170376378

That does make individual gun stats a lot less important, but it's still important since there are a lot of angles that you can kill people with but not have access to the head.

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>>170362542

>>170375995
They are useless

>>170376053
They're not good for blocking doors

I /H A T E/ it when people put shields in doors, it's as annoying as Castle barricades. They stop fast rotation and fast peeking in and out of the objective and give the attackers chest high cover. Barbed wire slows down attackers and lets you know when an attacker is moving through it or trying to destroy it. A piece of barbed wire on the inside of a door with a Jager ADS beside it does the same thing as a shield in the door except it doesn't slow down defenders. Take it from someone with 1000 hours in this game, never put shields in doors, never even pick shields, barb or impact nades is preferable 100% of the time.

>>170375551
>to stop attackers push once the time is ending
It's useful to delay pushes a little eariler on if they're being aggressive, but since it doesn't deal damage it doesn't deter pushes the same way Smoke does. If it's close to the end of the round they can still push through it without as much penalty.
It's more useful to delay pushes either into areas the Attackers will think are dangerous, and/or if they're entering an area with a lot of potential angles. The biggest benefit it has is that it renders attackers almost entirely deaf for its duration, leaving them open for ambushes from patient roamers you communicate with since anticipation of such becomes extremely hard with no hearing.

>>170376053
>>170375995
>>170375873
Shield is perfect for Echo especially, unless you know the site you're playing on is already going to have good cover, like a few spots on Skyscraper.

>>170376130
>>170376180
Barbed wire is normally better, but it all depends on the site, and honestly too many barbed wire and they start to lose their potency since you can frag or Ash big clusters of it at a time.
Shields are just underutilized, and if you pick it based on the site you're playing and mix it up, you can get some pretty good results.
If you're just slapping them in corners and sitting directly behind them you're using them wrong.

>>170376340
>Also blocks Twitch drones as a small extra
When Mira's in play this is especially useful too.

>>170376378
Generally, yeah fire rate and recoil are much more important. Only guns I really think have high DPS being potent in more situations are the Type-89 and C8

>>170376578
>damage per second
>damage per shot
yeah they're two different things, what're you chucklin' at?

>>170376678
t. twitch

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>>170376678
>Take it from someone with 1000 hours in this game,

>>170376678

t. ash rusher/jager roamer

>>170376639
>implying that's concept art for Siege
Just the concept artist muckin about with Smoke's design in his free time.

>>170376749
>>170376825
>>170376845
Whatever, continue being a detriment to your team.

>>170376678
Inside of the door? But then they will only be affected when they are already on the objective. Wouldnt outside make more sense so they cant fast peek?

>>170376968
I should have said put it somewhere between the middle and the inside, if it's too far out then they can just safely melee it from cover. You still want a piece of it in the door frame.

>>170376639
Why do you keep posting this? That's not art related to Siege

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>We could've had Terrorist vs Counter-Terrorist
>Ubisoft wanted to use Tom Cuckcy's name
>Cuckcy didn't want players to play as terrorists
>Now we have some retarded training simulation bullshit

>>170377226
>Terrorist v.s. C-Terrorist
>Ragheads and streetfags against military
>Some of my favourite OPs would just be fags instead
No thanks

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>>170377226

>>170377226
>he wants to play as dumbass terrorists
The current shit is better. More character and good design with counter-terrorists than any designer would ever want to put into filthy fucking terrorists.

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Are they ever going to buff Thermite? How come Hibana gets a better ability, a better gun, a better secondary, while being 3 speed?

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>>170377226
>be CT vs TR
>immediately accused of CS clone

>>170377507

Power creep.

>>170377357
>>170377425
>>170377461

Cuck apologists.

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>Makes funny tweets about the new Fuze bundle
>No tweets or updates on the current status of the bugged challenges

>>170377646
buddy if you want to BE the brownie mudslimes im pretty sure that makes you the cuck

>>170377507
Ubisoft is too afraid to change anything unless its memed to hell like tachanka. Or if its another nerf to blackbeard.

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>>170364438
>>170364492
w-what about exactly 1.0

>>170377761
it takes true skill and a calm mind to stay even

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>>170377226

I honestly don't have a problem with the way the game's attacker and defender situation is played out, but I do agree, Tom Clancy is a retarded and overrated hack.

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>>170377646
>People disagree with my opinion
>I'll just call them a cuck, that'll show them!
/pol/'s the other way buddy

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>>170377761
I will be there soon.
>used to have almost 2.0 kd
>stopped playing
>comeback months later
>lost any kind of gamesense
>now its already down to 1.60kd

>>170377832
r-rook is that a baton in your pocket or are you just e-e-excited to see me....

>>170376639
>need example of faction take on a specific weapon
>"dude, let's use the shitty folding glock because we can plaster it in greebly garbage!"

>>170377746
>afraid of having sandniggers in your game and playing as them

Does hearing, "Hey, whiteboi" trigger you and bring you back to the time Jamal blacked you or something?

>>170377646
cuck has been overused to the point that the word has no meaning

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>>170362648
DELET THIS

>>170378070
There's already a sandnigger in the game.
You're the one who wants an entire team of them.

>>170377226
>he's still this mad
Get over it queer.

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>>170378070
ah yup, im AFRAID of having terrorists in my counter terrorism game.

>>170377226
I feel like the meme potential wouldn't be there if it was different.

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>>170377157
>That's not art related to Siege

that's clearly smoke you dip

>>170378706
>standing in a similar stance
>dude, that must be Smoke
The artist made no mention of Smoke or Siege with that drawing

This game ain't good for my health, probably best to quit it. Nearly had a heart attack few mins ago from pulling out an ace out of my ass when things were looking most dire.

>>170378541
>>170378460
>>170378396

>Having counter-terrorism while fighting other counter-terrorists

Good job, dumbass

Also...

>he's right and i'm wrong so...g-go back to /pol/

This is why libcucks are losing.

>>170378905
You're not very bright are you

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>>170379053
Low effort bait

>>170378396
>i was blacked by Tyrone and his crew please stop triggering me

Translated.

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We need some medical attention in this thread.

>>170379098
Not an argument, reddie

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>170379053
>170379179
Get out. Your (you) fishing will not be tolerated.

>>170379098
It isn't. It's a tag question.
You really aren't bright.

>>170379260
>>170379098
>>170378905
>>170378706
It's "Smoke" as in it's his design in different universes/settings/styles.
Made by the concept artist that originally created Smoke's design.
Argument's over.

>>170379505
Meant for
>>170379260

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>>170378905
>>170379260

>comes from a concept artist who works at ubisoft montreal
>dude how is it smoke lmao

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3rn92

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Really ubi

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>>170379725
really

>>170379612
>reddie can't link correctly
>>170379098

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>>170379659
>Description clearly says training exercise with no mention of Smoke or Siege

>>170379910

>be smart like a shoe
>need spoonfeeding in order to understand why certain art is related to siege instead of lurking more
>thinks ad homs are supposed to be arguments
>I'll call him reddie, that will show him xD

Perhaps you're the one who has to go back.

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>>170380102
I know this may be difficult for you, but please stop being autistic.

>>170380102

The fmg lookalikes, toxic babe replacements, and pose clearly suggest that it's an intentional mimic of Smoke. I don't want to see that on here anymore because it looks like trash, but it's not a random unrelated picture like you're making it out to be.

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>causal
Winning 2/0
>sledge injures someone
>I get a shot on him
>secure kill
>sledge teamkills me for taking his kill
>we lose round we should've won
>lose next two rounds
man these shitters trigger me
also found out he was bronze

>>170376639
The leftmost one looks alright, like it's only a few iterations away from fitting in.
Second from the right is the worst by far.

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>new fuze bundle
>it's just a darker green helmet and uniform

>>170380383
>similar stances
Okay

>>170380826
PLEASE PAY UP

>>170380826

At least it's tacticool. What uniforms could you give him that aren't retarded meme shit?

>>170381124

It's fucking 32,000 for an unnoticeable color change.

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>>170381228

Then don't get it.

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Always have a Jager, lads.

>>170381615

Oh, don't worry, I won't.

But Ubisoft's skins suck ass. They're either Jigsaw or they're a lazy overpriced recolor.

Terrible.

>>170381228
>Pulse's Velvet Shell seasonal headgear is 5k renown
>It just changes the color of his shades and doesn't give him face camo like the others

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I accidentally a meme

>>170381741
>changes the color of his shades
And only just barely.

Hey guys just got the game and I'm wondering

I sometimes get the "you are exposed notification" and I'm wondering how do I counter it or stop it and what does it mean?

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>>170380826
>people praising it for being realistic
>paying a ridiculous amount for a fucking greener fuze

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sudoku fuze

>>170381980
Someone on your team got interrogated.
You can counter it by killing your team-mate before Caveira gets to them.

>>170381980
It means that a teammate got stabbed by a spicey BR defender and now every defender has wallhacks on you for several seconds.

>>170382042
Fuze players are green enough already.

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>>170376639
i kinda of like the left most one reminds me of halflife 2 combine dudes

>>170382056
It fucking baffles me how often Fuze kills himself with his cluster grenade.
I feel like the matryosha detaching itself from the wall once it does actually causes damage, because there can't be any other reason, right?

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>>170378905
FMG-9 and Smoke pose, mate

>>170381980
When Caveira holds F next to an incapacitated enemy she can interrogate them. After the interrogation her entire team has wallhacks on the entire enemy team for several seconds.
You can counter it by not letting yourself or your teammates get interrogated, even if it means teamkilling.

>>170382091
>>170382093

"Exposed" & "Revealed" = Jackal

"Compromised" = Caveira

"Spotted" = Camera / Drone

"Detected" = You went outside.

>>170382091
>>170382093
>>170382313
I see, I got it during defense as well once, which character is that?

>>170382419
Jackal pings your location. It's once every ten seconds.
It spooks me the fuck out, lemme tell ya.

>>170382042
but it's less green

help me
when caveira tosses impacts she'll occasionally say "toss ssing greNAdes" in a heavily processed google translate voice

>>170382504
Oh alright, I thought I did something wrong and was running around like a headless chicken scared off my ass too.

Thanks for the help guys.

>>170382419
>>170382662
Jackal's isn't straight wallhacks like Caveira, though. It just leaves a marker at your location once every 10 seconds.

You also get a similar warning if you go outside as a defender. Defenders are supposed to stay inside.

>>170382042

Apparently Ash is going to get a recolor as well that'll also be 32,000. Got to take away the moneyless currency option from the dumb goys by pandering to their "tacticool" autism with as little effort as possible, though.

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>>170383225
Yeah, one of the players had it during the Velvet Shell demo

>>170382645
>help me

Your post sounds like a report, not a request.

>>170383565
That's really not worth 32,000.

Is there even a reason to put sights on the MP5? The irons are already great.

>>170383659
cause irons are garbage

>>170383659
there's literally no reason not to use sights

>>170383659
If you mena the MP5K then i agree, otherwise the MP5 that GIGN uses is pretty good for long range

>>170383751
>t. ACOG crutch

>>170382302
sometimes the pucks hit something and bounce straight back.

>>170377226
>CTU vs CTU
I see you got the /r6g/ shitposting starter pack.

>>170383659
I prefer sights on everything so I can keep a consistent sight picture across weapons.

>>170382302
You just have to activate it once you're a healthy distance away and stay away until it's over. That Fuze walked back towards it.

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Which maps are the ones that get played in Pro League?

>>170385756
I only know House and Plane are not played.

>>170383591
im scared dad

>>170382302
Pucks can bounce out windows or holes or get stuck on metal beams.
The trophy room on Chalet seems to have pucks bounce out of the drone hole next to the window pretty frequently.

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>>170385840
NO

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i got the starter edition

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>>170385840

is fuze worth playing at the moment?

he looks fun, but damn, uncontrollable bouncing death pucks sounds like it can come back to bite you in the ass pretty frequently. but i'm guessing as long as i'm a healthy distance away and not playing hostage it'd turn out alright.

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>>170387206

>>170387720

its actually irrelevant, you can buy the r6 credits and get all the operators for the same amount as a full standard edition and then nothing is different

are the challenges not working right now? i won like 7 rounds as SAS but it still shows zero.

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>>170387550

>>170387206
your funeral, bud.

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>>170388128
Nope, shit is broken again

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>>170388128
What the buck?

>>170388357
Meant to >>170387897
Probably will count later, got my shotgun challenge completed one day after playing.

>>170388128
Thats what happens when you equip the rubber grenade launcher

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>Team mates won't stop arguing
>Threats to team kill start flying

Why do people do this shit, even in ranked?

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>>170385840
Why has no one done this yet?

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>>170389110
Because teamkilling should be punished more than a shitty "2TK's get you kicked lmao" meme
Also give back the 3/5 votekick ubishit

>>170388128
jesus fucking christ. okay maybe i'll learn to play fuze another day

>>170385840
fuck you mira is too cute for this meme

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>>170389628
What if
2 teamkills kick the guy AND reset the round?

>>170389110
>ranked with anything less than a 5 man

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>>170389569
because i've never seen it before

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>>170390593

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>>170391130
FROGGED

>>170374578
That's really cool of you, anon, the key is to getting better is to keep practicing, have fun and good luck!

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>>170390265
>Shit guys we're losing
>Ok xxXXTimToolManTXXxx, it's your turn to tk

Did you think before posting that?

>>170390265
How would that help?

Challenges still bugged?

>>170391130
DELET THIS

>>170391496
>he gets removed from match
>It's now a 4v5 for the rest of the game

I know it could still be a gamechanger but...

>>170390265
>>170389628

Remember America's Army, where enough teamkills would put you in an ingame jail cell?

Let's do that. After enough TKs or friendly fire, you're forced to play several hours (incrementing higher for successive infractions) of sitting in a plain room, with button prompts or simple minigames coming up at random intervals to make sure you aren't AFK or botting. Until you play through your timeout, you can't access any other game mode, including local games or single-player terrorist hunt.

>>170392104
Do you have any idea how many accidental teamkills happen in this game?
Not to mention teamkilling someone who's about to be interrogated is completely valid.

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>>170387890
sure

just picked up this game for $15 on steam
what should i expect?

>>170392348
a lot of grinding

lol

>>170388128
Lower,
The fucking,
Puck,
Bounce.

Jesus fucking christ ubi how many shitty reddit posts of ridiculous Fuze TKs do you have to see before you figure out something needs to be done.

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Why aren't you rich off Rainbow Six?

>>170392415
Because I'm not as good as Serenity.

>>170392195
>Do you have any idea how many accidental teamkills happen in this game?

Yes, I'm often on the receiving end of them. Maybe this will make my team mates stop shooting me in the back while trying to "help" shoot my target, or looks twice before using explosives.

>Not to mention teamkilling someone who's about to be interrogated is completely valid.

If you can shoot the downed team mate, you can shoot slightly over their back to kill Caveria.

>>170392348
DON'T BUY THE STARTER EDITION

Also, if I do what the challenges say will I have the progress when they become unbugged?
Or should I just wait to do them?

>>170392473
>>170366107