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Not fucking dead yet edition

>Devstream:
https://youtu.be/ywiqxjE9rQI [Embed]

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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wtf i tried to make it 3 fucking times
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Goddamn it, you wasted the first post.
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first for improved hate collage
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>not played for two days
>lost complete interest in the game

so this is it then
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Warden is balanced and nerfing him won't make you a better player.

How about you just practice more instead of demanding nerfs for every honest class you have a hard time fighting against.
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>>170342000
>uebok suda idi
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PIRATES FUCKING WHEN
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>>170342050
please
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I have a few questions concerning stats that are a bit confusing. Does debuff resist affect stun from things like a raider's wall slam or the small stun from a neutral guard throw after a guard break? Sometimes as a kensai when I do the easy cheese bnb of guard break, neutral guard throw, in to top heavy finisher, the enemy recovers in time to dodge. But sometimes they do not recover in time and get hit.

Another question is throw distance. Is this the distance you throw people? Or the guard break range?
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>>170342086
never
fuck off
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And the wait begins...
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12th for nerf peacekeeper
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Are the servers down for anyone else or just PS4? And wha's it for?
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>>170341856
Reatrd Filters in For Honor:

Low MMR- Orochi:
Mid-tier MMR - Warden
Before entering High-tier MMR - PK

You can skip those filters by playing Warlord.
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>>170342053
Try a new character maybe?

Or do what I did. I picked up lawbringer when I started to get bored, because of his ledging potential, and therefore his salt accumulation potential. It really made me have fun again.
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>>170342086
When we get a good hunter-esque faction.

To be honest I just more armour options.
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>>170342329
I was on PS4 a few minutes ago before it went down, there was a notification that said there was a scheduled maintenance that was about to start that would last about 20 minutes.
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>>170342329
Patch 1.03, baby!
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How does one do the Kensei's unblockable attack multiple times before it actually land the hit?
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>>170342163
I think it affects all staggers, including the ones you mentioned. Not too sure though, but pretty sure.
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I'm getting bored with valk, /fhg/. I appreciate the recent buffs, but so much of her moveset seems broken. Dodge Counter has like two frames where it works. Outside of those frames, you either take the hit or the weapon goes right through you. Similarly, Spear Sweep will go through players who dodge left or right.

At this point, I think I might start playing Warlord
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>win a 2v2 against a great team, really fun game
>in the next match they vote for the map with all the fucking holes and fire and spikes and shit
>they both play warlord
>spend the entire game running around trying to get environment kills and not actually fight

why do people do this? do people really get that mad for losing 1 game they have to act like faggots?
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>>170342614
>Dodge Counter
literally useless, just parry
t. rep 7 valk
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>>170342619
nice made up story dude
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>>170342619
All the warlord players are faggots, there's no looking for a reason, it's just how it is.

They will wait for you to come to the bridge if they are half hp and will turtle till you are low.

I much prefer fighting conquerers or PKs and stay as far away from those scums.
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>>170342597
Any chain that ends in a heavy, if you do a top heavy it becomes unblock able. Some chains require for all the hits to hit. The triple heavy is then the "easiest" to pull off because it does not require the first 2 heavies to confirm a hit.

I hope this answers your question.
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>>170342716

That's my problem. My win-rate is from parry-headbutt, superior block-light attack,and an occasional Shield Crush to Spear Sweep combo. It's getting boring.
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>>170342000
>improved
>it's actually just like 3 posts repeated
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>>170341856
>Tru3ta1ent calling /ourguy/ Aarpian a cocky bitch on stream

Why does everyone have to hate us?
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>>170342163
Anyone have info on throw distance? I wonder if it is a stat I should care for in my bnb combo for a kensai. If it is range then I can initiate it from further away. If it is a throw distance I don't care as much because I do neutral guard throws.

>>170342602
Also as an aside, do all characters have different starting stats? Cause if so, when doing 1v1 some characters as mentioned recover faster and can dodge my top heavy while others don't. I wonder if that is related.
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>>170343109
truetalent more like who
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>>170343109
Because Aarpian likes to dick on streamers and call them bad in front of their child viewers who think they're da best
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>>170342978
I know how to do the unblockable really well, but there was one guy i fought that started the unblockable attack 3 times in a row, as in, one after the other, before letting it go.

It was as if he feinted the unblockable into another unblockable into another.
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>>170343109
Who?
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>>170343109
>lose the tourney in ob
>get thrown into losers like the 1st couple of matches
>lose later
>never enter another tourney
>can't win 1v1s
>only plays 2v2s
and he dares to say anything about the pro scene?
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>>170343109
Aarpian gets every streamer's panties in a bunch.

He's a huge fucking troll
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Would you change what class you main if there were skins to change the faction of your class - Warden has a Viking skin, PK has a Samurai skin, Warlord has a Knight skin, etc
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>>170343319
no
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>PS4 update going live

I will never, EVER fight a Peacekeeper again.
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>>170343494
How's 30fps cuck?
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>>170343494
>PS4
who gives a fuck
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>>170343579
Its good on my PS4 Pro

I played the beta on PC but my PC isnt good enough and I like gaming from the couch
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>>170343579
>not wanting to play a fighting game like you're playing it on an arcade machine

Psssh, kid.
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>>170341856
>parry PK
>go for a grab
>she techs because of the bug
>parry her again, out of stamina
>grab her and try to toss her to the ground
>doesn't fall because of bug
>grab her mid-dodge
>toss her off the map because I am tired of her shit
>3-2
>replaced by a bot

I love bullying these shitters
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>>170342062
Nerk PK.

Shes really the only problem character in the game from what Ive seen.
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>>170344323
>only
What is warlord.
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>>170344323
nerk yourself
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>>170344323
>PK the only problem character
>Conq and Warlord shitting on everyone in tournaments because the game favours defensive play and they have the best defensive options

No. She needs to be toned down but so do these two. Also increase stamina cost of shoulder bash for warden so that he doesn't take their place once the characters in the tier above him receive nerfs.
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>got home from werk
>decide to check out if we somehow made our event quota
>they extended the timer for 60+ hours

I wonder what went through their heads when they realized all 3 platforms would fail their 1st event
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>>170344449
>>170344430
>the only character that can deal with pk's bullshit is top tier
woooooooooooow
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>>170343240
I believe he just was in one tournament and to be fair, he plays decently well.
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>>170344693
N0Ta1ent has never won a tourny
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>>170344449
>aarpian does well with conq so conq must be as good as warlord
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>>170344774
>he talks big
>gets BTFO by a rep 10 PK
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>>170344869
almost like peacekeeper is broken
neither kingnigger or keeshit could play any other character
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>got 3-0d a couple days ago by a rep 1 Raider as a rep 5 Zerk
>feel like trash because I know how bad Raider is
>today I learn that Raiders guard switch and attack windups are so fucking slow i can literally just light spam for a win

I have never felt more retarded
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>>170344962
didnt he play valk?
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>>170345139
valk is better than conq
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>Lawbringer
>Difficulty: Hard

Um, why?
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Who team /saka_sakas-san/? This business nipman is way more enjoyable to watch than all those so called pros who get salty too easily.

Saka_sakas-san is cute, CUTE!
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Does anyone here main titty boy?
I just started playing him yesterday for the 'complete 5 elimination matches with a heavy' and I need some tips.

What's something you wish you had known when you started playing Shugoki? What's are some common mistakes I can avoid?
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Who else sees Old Snake when they look at default Kensei?

Kensei...had a hard life.
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>>170344742
so? Im not saying he did
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>>170345506
throw into a wall and immediately demon hug then you can often land the next gb half way through their getting back up animation for either another wall-bear hug or the baseball

thats it, hes not a very nuanced character
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Tfw picked up warlord off the bat in this game.

Tfw people bullying me because i beat their precious pk.


At this point i dont give a fuck. People need to get good. If you lose games in 2017 your just trash. I dont care how meta warlord is i like vikings fuck off.
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>trying out kensei
>go against PK
>she techs all grabs
>she blocks or parries all attacks
>she just ignores most feints
How do I even open up that whore? The only thing that I can do is occasional top lights that do fuck all damage.
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>dueling warlord as shugoki
>trade headbutts so I run him out of stamina
>he dodges when I run at him so GB throw for 3 bar charged heavy kill
>get this before he leaves
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>>170342121
Anyone?
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>>170342000
This game's biggest problems are:
>connection issues
>community
The first one can be fixed.
The second one... I dunno...
Also Checked
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Has anyone done comprehensive checks on executions and which ones give back health and execute fastest?

I know there's some odd ones like Lawbringer's impale that's actually his fastest execution, despite the animation being slow. Any others like that?
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So if a guard break is guaranteed after a parry, do I have to dash forward before the guard break or what? Because they're always too far away after a parry for me to just press guard break.

Will I have enough time?
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>>170345853
seems to me like perfectly standard multiplayer game community desu
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>>170345506
Tittyman this the hardest to play by far and your only gimmick that makes PKshitters and other scum buttmad that you can 1shot them in 1/100 games with the hug when they fail to finish you off.
Literally no tricks just as raider - you have to be better at mechanics, ex. parry-wall stun-hug. Once the armor is down you are pretty much fucked since you take shit ton of extra damage - think of it having assassin levels of hp most of the time.
Can't go toe to toe with any high level warlords/coqs at all, suffers to light-top-feint-zone'like combo's from PK, parry-headbutt drain Valk punish and other fast characters.
But comes out ahead favorably against Lawbringers since you can ignore shove from time to time and just poke them for free damage.
Here are the tip to step up your game tho

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zhszdF_wIU
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this general is as dead as the game
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>>170345991

Do you need to walk forward before GB after a parry or can you just hit GB after you parry them?
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>>170346026
Maybe you should contribute to the thread instead of bitch you fuckingloser.no shit the generals dead everyone here is a fucking whiney brat
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>>170346090
Depends on how close you are to the opponent, 90% of the time you dont need to walk unless the opponent plays nobushi/Law and stays away at max reach.
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>>170346230
*parries you*
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This fucking game man.

Everything but the guard reticule of you and your opponent is a distraction.

I lose in seconds if I pay attention to ANYTHING but that so all the visuals, all the animations, all the character design, I'm not good enough at multitasking to actually enjoy this game even if I do win as I'm just playing bap boop bap.

Fuck this fucking game man. Holy shit, why do I keep trying to get good.
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>>170345825
Its dead, Jim.
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Forgot to mention that any failed GB still takes away your armor so once you get matched up vs anyone who knows that you are fked.
Your main game is light-headbutt so you cant even finish anyone unless you feint your heavies throughout all round constantly, hoping they will fail to block it(GB into heavy still kills tho).
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>>170345495
I rike Rabbik Brack!
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>>170346580
>not reacting to gb with light
uhh
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>>170346405
Play campaign on realistic, helped me pay more attention in multiplayer
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>>170346642
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>>170346267
MORTEM
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>>170346739
*vortex you and throws you against a wall*

What now, big boy.
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>>170346904
why all longswords in game are so fucking wide, long and thick. Every single one looks ugly because of this
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>>170346904
*dashes * heh.

*downguards as warlord

Heh
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>>170346904
INIMICUS
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>>170347041
Report all warlords!
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I play exclusively Warlord
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When you report AFK farmers in Dominion, does that count as cheating or as griefing?
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>>170347321
Wut. Dont tell me you have problems fighting warlords
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>>170347392
probably griefing
ruining muh game experience
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>>170347392
Keep working for $0.00 man. Your big thank you email is coming in hot. All that video recording, uploading, and emailing really paid off.
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>>170347408
>don't tell me you have problems fighting against a confirmed broken character
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>>170347525
t.rep 21 PK
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>>170347541
>I'm bad
What did anon mean by this?
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>>170347541
Who do you play then. Im a warlord main i garuntee you people who arent brain dead retarded can beat warlords.
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>>170347630
I play all except PK, warlord and conq
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>tfw you are held hostage by the headbutt
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>>170347689
So you're just bad then. Glad we got that out of the way.
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>>170347720
Teaches you to dodge to the side pretty quick.
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>>170347727
Good argument.
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>>170347689
Then you have a problem if you cant beat a warlord.
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>>170347720
Pick one of the 3-4 escape options. Your odds are very strong!
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>>170347823
I'm saying that they are broken in general. Don't turn this on me on a personal level.
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If Warlord isn't OP why has warlord won every tournament
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>>170347689
>being purposefully oblivious to the weaknesses and strategy of characters you struggle against
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK
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>wake up
>Xbox version has a 4.2GB update
I guess the patch is finally out? I thought it came out a while ago.
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>>170347896
But they reallt arent. Ive had more problems fighting lbs and valks then warlords. Your just bad dude
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How do you play berserkers?
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>Warlord wins every tournament
>Warlord has by far the highest winrate according to dev statistics
>Warlord's moveset is a perfect toolkit of versatile offensive options as well as powerful defense that allows him to both thrive in and counter the defensive metagame depending on what options he picks for the matchup
>But Warlord is perfectly balanced or even kind of shitty because some Anon on 4chan said so

Truly causes one to ponder
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>>170347932
Petemoo is just a good player :^)
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this place is as cancerous as reddit these days

all these no skill scrubs defending broken classes and sucking ubidick
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Fighting games have always had tier lists. What I'm finding in For Honor though is that unwinnable matchups come to you way earlier than on many of the proper fighting games. I hope they're fairly fast with the balance patches.
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>>170347998
>>170347995
>people complain about warlord and pk every thread since the games creation
>its cancer because were telling you to shut the fuck up

Yeah man totally reddit xd
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>>170348042
It's been three weeks and all they've done is buff the strongest class and a mid-tier class.
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>>170348042
>fast with the balance patches
Is this your first ubishit title?
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>>170347002
Videogame swords have always been paddles for maximum visibility.
This game especially it's almost needed because attack direction is important.

At least the swords are somewhat proportioned correctly, the scale is just off.
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>>170347996
He's a good player who correctly identified the strongest character.

>>170347998

There's always going to be a "git gud" mentality wherever you go. It's a really cheap way of acting superior without requiring any skill.

Also if you only play against shit warlords (most of them are) then Warlord probably doesn't seem that good. Same with PKs who just throw out random zone and heavies.
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>>170346904
What even is that retarded helmet design
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>No 8v8 elimination mode with heavily discouraged ganking, no gear and no buffs
I just want a proper tournament mode, or at least people splitting off into 1v1s on a large map with a lot of people
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>be lawman main
>love the plate mail aesthetic, every other class has something kinda dumb/really dumb about their look
>make rep 2, start losing a lot
>people finally know how to parry and dodge me
>can't parry for shit because of bad guard shift time
>start playing other knight classes to avoid getting pidgeonholed by matchmaker
>Conqueror is wierdly hard, PK is stupid easy
>warden is just right
>parry like mad, get kills with properly controlled heavies and quickshots
I guess I'll be dping this for a bit. Ateast until the LAW gets buffed.
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>>170347932
>why has one player won every tournament
Gee I wonder. If you babies really believed Warlord was OVERPOWERED why is there a single other character in top 8? Tonya in MKX was fucking overpowered. 5 out of 8 in the first tournament after her release. I wish the whiners would just leave this game already, they are not willing to learn and adapt. It'a not like anyone gives a fuck about any Reddit tournaments.

WAH WAAH UBISOFT CHANGE THE GAME TO EXACTLY MY LIKING. What? Of course I only play one character, he's like my main dude lmao.

>>170348042
>fighting games have unwinnable matchups
fucking lol
>fairly fast with balance patches
I'm dying
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>>170347953
Warlord are aggresively and defensively stronger than all the heroes in the roster and they don't even need to try as their attacks and cc drain little stamina for big damage. But keep believing warlord's kit isn't on a whole other level of broken.
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>>170348243
t. rep 6 Warlord
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>>170346405
Samefag here

Just played 3 rounds of duel against someone my skill level and it made me realise my anger was at the poor matchmaking more than anything.

>Both at flashing red health final round
>Soundtrack reaching a crescendo
>Try to make an opening with a long distance dash
>He dodges and punishes

That's how it should feel to lose, knowing the mistake I made, knowing a gamble I made didn't pay off. Too often, in Dominion, I get made to feel like one of those traps from /d/ and /aco/ taking a dick back and front.

Hope you enjoyed my blog.
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>>170346904
Can I get a Warden chest that looks like this and not that retarded jack-of-plates over a chain shirt deal?
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>people whining about tiers in a fighting game.


Allright fuck vg dude this shit is getting old and repetitive
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Ok /fhg/, let me hear your best hero concept ideas. I know a lot of you have ideas, weapons and/or move sets you would like to see in the game. I'll start.

Vikings - Huscarl: Wields hand-ax and straight sword. Probably would be a hybrid. He can swap weapons with each other to alternate between two different movesets. For example, ax in primary hand make him more heavyish, crossing his weapons to block. Sword in primary hand make him more like an assassin, with no guard stance like an assassins but can side dash+light and can deflect.

Samurai - Sohei: Wields iron capped bo. Vanguard for sure. He primarily works around set combos that can be chained together and cost little stamina but do less damage that other heroes. His combos primary focus is not light or heavy attacks but direction his attacks come from.

Knights - Gladiator: Wields trident and net. I'm thinking heavy. Net might only be able to be used effectively when opponent is out of stamina. Needs to use parries to reliably get opponents stamina low enough. Has a special feint to bait attack to parry. No idea how how it might be special though.
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>>170347995
I don't understand why he's so good though.
Is Warlord just so versatile he has the toolset to win every matchup?
Is it because of what guaranteed moves he has off of parry and headbutt?
Does he just have good frame data?
Because whenever I play Warlord he just seems slow and clumsy.
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>>170348243
Sorry man I'm not really interested in seeing nothing but PK and Warlord
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>>170348337
>wl side lights
>slow
hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>170348353
That's simply not the reality! Keep living in your fantasyland of being a complete scrub.
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>>170348337
Basically all of those plus retardedly good damage for what is meant to be a tanky character. His fucking zone attack alone can kill off critical health, a trait only shared with Raider and Nobushi whose zones are a lot worse in terms of speed/readability.
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>>170348243
I'm not saying that all fighting games have unwinnable matchups. I'm saying that fighting games at tournament level tend to minimize that effect even though even then there will be tier list.

As things stand For Honor can't hope to get into something like EVO since the 1v1 imbalance is so vast.
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>>170348337
you don't even have to attack or make use of your heavy hyperarmor

you can just fuck with them with your other tools all match
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>>170348353
Yeah i dont jnow what game your playing but i see the biggest variety of players in this game. People tend to play what they want. Stop watching tourneys or reblogging what le top players are saying you are trash.
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>try to play a character other than warlord
>instantly get put against a pk who just spams unreactable lights/zone with an occasional heavy feint
>only way to ever punish a pk is parry(lol), full bock, or out spam them
I like that there's 3 different games here. Pks play the mashing game, Warlords play the waiting game, and everyone else plays For Honor
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>>170347995
>Warlord has a complicated moveset that turns off bad players
>Only good players stick with him
>Why is the win rate so high?
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>queue'ing for 4v4 elimination
>expecting a 1v1
It's starting to rub off on me. I am literally becoming angry over these faggots.
Not the game
Just the people playing it.
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>n0tal3nt plays pissshitter
>still complains about matchups
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>>170348315
Everything besides gladiator looks like the existing classes.
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>>170348534
>Warlord has a complicated moveset
uwot
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>>170348447
You can't honestly believe there is a very bad balance problem, nigger. Your "vast" imbalance is like S tier down to B+ tier. Not very vast.

It's hilarious because people say half the fucking cast is overpowered. That's pretty damn balanced! Then again, these players probably don't even know the frame data.
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I love the salty tears of ass players in the morning.

Holy fuck is this your first fighting game or something?
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>>170348646
>Everything besides gladiator looks like the existing classes.

how so? I can't think of another class that can swap stances or has combos based primarily on direction of attack rather than if it's light or heavy.
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>>170348570
Is he usually this salty?
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>>170343851
you parried a pk TWICE!?
I call esp or bullshit
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So, 7.3 goes live on consoles today.

On the one hand, yay I get to counter guardbreaks worth a damn!

On the other, muh Warden's vortex
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>>170348704
NICE ARGUMENT
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>>170348770
We already have zerker with 2 weapons and shugoki with a blunt shit. Sohei sounds like a low-tier class because he would have predictable directions of his combos (like you said yourself) and low damage, and nobody ever SWAPPED HANDS in combat, that's pretty ridiculous.
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>>170348315
We need a fat butcher man weilding a huge cleaver.
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>>170348862
Jeez, getting my league patches mixed with my for honor ones. You know which patch I mean.
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>>170348534
>For Honor
>complicated movesets

The most complicated move in the game is the zone attack because you can fatfinger a normal light or heavy if you have flipper hands due to a birth defect. You can learn a character's moveset by watching a single youtube video, after that it just comes down to reading your opponent.
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>>170348904
Except it was a question, retard.
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>>170348398
I barely play against any Warlords and the ones I do are heavy spamming retards. I wouldn't even know if he had light attacks.

>>170348431
Sounds like he needs some attack damage adjustment. Like that is kinda fucked up how he does about the same damage on Zone with half the speed as fucking Raider who relies on the unblockable for like half his moveset.

>>170348452
Sounds like his kit is just overpowered then. We can't have a character who can do everything better than other character's specializations.
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>>170348941
wielding* s-sorry
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>>170348862
Console players get out. This is a competitive general for serious players only. Nobody wants your flavor of the month opinions.

Console player and someone who plays a horribly dumbed down version of DotA. It's like pottery.
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>>170348534
>Warlord has a complicated moveset

This is what tierwhores actually believe, holy shit
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>>170349042
>Serious players only
>Whole thread is people bitching about Warden.
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>>170349042
>>>r/pcmasterrace

You need to go back.
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>>170349042
But console and pc literally play the same. Dont tell me you use a mouse anon.
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>>170349110
Right, I'm too good for this subreddit. Just downvote and move on kid.
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>console shitters bringing week old news because they finally got the patch
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>>170348753
No. My first fighting game was Smash 4 :^)
Not even joking, it was. I don't like games that rely on stupid inputs to mask skill
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>>170349042
>consolebabby false-flagging so he can respond to himself
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>>170348570
who did he fought against?
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>>170349162
if you want to win you will use mouse
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>>170349162
>literally the same
>locked to 30fps
holy kek
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>>170349010
Raider does like 3 more damage (or double damage on the combo version but lol combos) but will never ever hit you with it. And 25 or 28 doesn't matter much when 25 is kill threshold.
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>>170349210
>Stupid inputs to mask skill.

Allright im done. Go play killer instinct and come back and say that again.
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This games gonna die since the general is shit

I have seen that if a general is great then the game lives
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>>170349245
conq
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>>170349162
>he has to move his thumb to tech GBs or feint
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>>170349089
t. rep 0 level 0 warlord
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>>170349285
>Locked to 30fps
>No need to worry about pay2win mega rigs
>insert poorfag reply
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>>170349324
Game wont die but the gen will. Vg as a whole is fucking garbage.
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>>170348315
>huscarl
Berserker with weapon skin swap. Pass.

>shoei
sounds like mix between nobushi and shugoki. Pass.

>gladiator
Trident and net sound like an actually interesting combination, and fits in with the Centurion. Fast jabs like Valkyrie, bad block capability, but several leg sweep abilities.
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>>170349405
You sound like a commie.
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How much afking you guys get done today? I've been trolling this general all day and earned 2 reps and one of literally every stat roll of purple gear.
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>>170349429

Yeah the game is niche enough but /fhg/ succumbed to the /vg/ cancer
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>>170349494
i bet ypu play orochi
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>>170349494

What's your method?
I wanna get Kensei up to 3 and spam crates.
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>get ledged
>complain

Dont get ledged then.

Why are people on this board so bad at learning and adapting.
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>>170348315
Knights - Brawler: the town drunk who smacks people up with a cudgel. Low defense, low health and half-decent evasion; cannot block period but can initiate some rather long chains with a parry. Attacks are mostly lightly damaging however his overheads deal a fair amount of damage and will give him a free GB
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>>170349494
Trying to get warlord rep 3 to be a ledge shitter in dominion. I farmed for a rep last night.
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>>170349604
>3d game
>multilayered levels

they are idiots
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>>170349650
>however his overheads deal a fair amount of damage and will give him a free GB
If the overhead came from a GB, then instead it'll shit on their stamina
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>>170349297
I did for a bit, I just played on a controller instead of a fight stick cause I'm not dropping that much cash on a single genre.
I know that if I stuck with the game and learned the inputs I'd eventually "learn" the character I was playing.
And only then I could worry about matchups and game state and all those other "meta" factors that games like For Honor, Smash, and Dive Kick let you worry about from the get go.

I know the learning curve is a lot lower for those games compared to traditional fighting games, but with these I don't have to worry about flubbing an input because it's a 3 button fighter that relies on attack direction and not a 6 button fighter that requires overly complex execution to win. It may seem scrubbish to you, but it's the truth.
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>>170349568
Warlord! Happy to have 108 gear without opening a single crate now.

>>170349585
Just dominion vs ai. Hopefully you get into a lobby with fellow afkers. The last 4 hours has just been me and 2 other people because that few people play vs ai.

If you're on pc it's as easy as disconnecting your controller while a stick is held in a direction (even right stick) or just having some way of making the game accept input. I'd imagine if you didn't use a controller you wouldn't be able to use your PC or play other games like I've been doing. i'd recommend putting everything on minimum in a small window so it only uses like 3% of your GPU.

You earn gear so fast you'll like have no need to open any crates if you leave it on overnight.
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>>170349494
Ever since i lost champion status i seem to only get a prestige every 12hours or so now. Might start buying the 7 day since its 4k steel and you make that a night.
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>>170349876
Neither of those situations implies skill though. I could be really good at both of those but the fighting games are just a mask? Your logic doesnt make sense
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>>170349920
I never see this posted anywhere but if you hold right analog stick to the right then tab out the game keeps spinning your camera to the right when the window isnt even active. You can now open another game and still use that same controller. I assume keyboard could do the same thing with wasd and tab out.
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>>170349604
Guess what this guy did in chat 1 second after falling
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>>170350384
>unzips revenge randomly
Why do people do this? Didn't even look like you baited it out, your stamina regenerates normally so that's not right after a fullblock cancel.
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>>170350384
Not complain?
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>>170350461
He hit revenge to get out of GB then decided to GB spam instead of literally anything else
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>>170349968
You could say fighting games mask skill in a situation like this:
Player A and Player B are fighting.
Player A knows all the vulnerable frames of both characters being played and knows how to space, but they can only excute moves half the time.
Player B just knows how to throw a fireball, a dragon punch, and hurricane kick. But they have perfect execution.

Now who do you think is going to win?
If you guessed the player that can pull off more special moves, you'd be correct.

Because the game rewards being able to input the complex moves while the metagame factors take a backseat. In a game like For Honor, there is very little execution skill needed, so the metagame skills take a more prominent role at all levels of play above a lower threshold.
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>>170350574
>He hit revenge to get out of GB
Why? People are weird.
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>>170350576
Are you implying i dont have to think as hard because there are less moves. You know how dumb that sounds right.
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>>170350686
You think harder about more things, because you're less worried about how to play, and more worried about what to do.
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How do you get new executions, emotes, and cool armor effects?
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>>170350770
Mmmmnot really. You ever hear the phrase fear not the man whos practiced a thousand punches fear the man whos practiced one punch a thousand times. It applies to this game. I have to be on my toes just as much as if i was playing a fighting game
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does this new leak mean the cia knows how much I ledgethrow then talk shit?
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>>170350787
You buy them with your Good Goy Points (GGP).
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>>170350627
Can anyone tell me what this manga is?
I've seen that image, this one, and that strip about halfswording but no one ever gives source.
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the usual cancer of scaring off content creators? this is a uniquely hostile general for a currently poorly balanced game. but oh man yet another /fhg/ thread yet again complaining about warlord and peacekeeper, real fucking riveting subject we got here that hasn't been talked about over and over and over.

>>170349042
the vast majority of this game's userbase is on consile, even the Xbox One version regularly has higher player count than the PC version. deal with it.
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>>170350875
what?
whats going on?

i've been saying some pretty vile shit i dont mean when im salty
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>>170350906
I don't know anon, but apparently it wasn't supossed to be very good. You maybe should just give up
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>>170350906

Goblin Slayer I believe
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>>170349876
>>170350576
You are retarded just by the first fucking line. How stupid do you have to be to think that arcade stick is even better than controller? It's not a factor.

That's so dependent on the game it's retarded. Very, very few of the fighting games played today require tight execution at mid to high level. Actually, no fighting game does. You don't have to eek out that 10 extra damage in some insane combo to play a game and win. If you can't even throw a fireball or dragon punch you must be disabled. How is a mentally handicapped invalid going to know what frame data is or how to space?

And he plays trash 4, of course. 10 frames of input buffer man, so fun.
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>>170350885
Where?
Also, why can't I buy the season pass with steel? Reeee
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>>170350906
The strip about halfswording is from somewhere else, I don't know what it is. I hear it's kind of shit anyway

The other two reaction images are from an edgy manga named Goblin Slayer. The protagonist (the helmeted guy in those pictures) uses an arming sword and small shield/buckler because he finds longswords life-threateningly cumbersome in the narrow tunnels goblins dwell in. He's pragmatic and ruthless as hell in general and is utterly racist against goblins to the point of personal vendetta. Think a D&D Ranger who took "Favored Enemy: Goblin" as every feat.

The manga has plenty of rape in it if you're into that.
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>>170350869
Different philosophies, I guess.

I'd rather be the man who is able to do a thousand different punches over the man who knows the ins-and-outs of a single punch
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>>170350962
>the vast majority of this game's userbase is on consile, even the Xbox One version regularly has higher player count than the PC version. deal with it.
Why would I care about what poorfags, autists, dudebros, and paid shills do? If you're playing on console you're 400% more likely to run into horrible players and are likely one yourself. Also thirty frames per second LMAO.
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>>170351070
Go into heroes>customization, then switch to the tab on the right.
You can't buy the season pass but you will be able to buy the heroes with steel. Same thing.
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>>170351137
Theres a reason the saying was made friend. You should fear the master of one, over the jack of all trades.
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Do kensie get any gear without those retarded as fuck shoulder boards?
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But why are there so many ded game ded general posts when you guys are usually front page is it just one guy?

I'm from fucking /ddg/ you don't know dead
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>>170351121
Rape makes me feel bad for the raped person.

I've been on this site for so long that part of me thinks my sympathy is unusual.
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>people still afk farming with matchmaking turned on
>even happens in pvp

come on I just want to do my orders
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>>170351346
>retarded as fuck

You dont say that
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>>170351369
This game is 3 weeks old.
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>tfw total rep 9 but my highest character is 2
>Can call high rep people nolife nerds as a last resort when all else fails
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>>170351370
If it makes you feel better, that woman is probably dead by the time she's being raped.
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Is it worth buying champion status with steel? It seems like 90% of players have it but it doesn't seem worth it to me
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>>170351492
I'd feel better if it was an ugly girl/man
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>>170351534
Reposting the only emblem I use.
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>>170341856
>When u are a huge anti-weeb, but you are good with the orochi
Why has god given me this curse?
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>>170351534
Top left is very nice.

Very HRE
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>>170351534

Is lower right supposed to be a thinking emoji? And would normal people even understand it?
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>>170351621
>good at pressing top light and zone
wow
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>>170351535
I noticed a pretty big drop in exp and gear when mine wore off. Not trying to shill but if you've got the steel I don't see what you'd be better spending it on
>>170351616
Fuck I was wondering if that would look better as a circle but it's great there
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>>170351463
Take that as a no then...
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>>170351621

>When you are a weeb and joined samurai but rep1'd all vikings before anything else
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>>170351370

Unusual doesn't mean bad.

>>170351463

They are pretty awful though. Samurai didn't wear wooden armor.
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>Reach a killing streak of 8 without dying in a skirmish match.
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>>170351674
>thinking emoji
Sure
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>>170351809
They wore paper armor.
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It's such a god damn shame that this game is such a cool concept gameplay wise but is ruined by Ubisoft's lack of basic common sense.
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>>170351535
If you afk or play a lot its obviously worth it. You get 25% exp buff and item drop rate seems to double. That said if you are already prestige 3 with 108 gear its not really worth it as you should save for customization.
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>>170351928

Oh, now I see it.
If you look at it from left to right, it's a jew.
If you look at it from right to left, it's a thinking emoji.
Wow....!
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>>170351052
>How stupid do you have to be to think that arcade stick is even better than controller? It's not a factor.
I know that a controller that emphasizes stick inputs to the point where it dedicates an entire hand to the stick and has finer points of articulation is going to make it easier to execute complex inputs.
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out.

>Very, very few of the fighting games played today require tight execution at mid to high level
What is Street Fighter V? What is Mortal Kombat X? What is Killer Instinct? What is Tekken?
Hell, just open the OP on /fgg/ and you'll find like 2 dozen games that require tight execution to be successful.
It's not about being able to pull off a combo with frame perfection to eek out extra damage, it's about the stupid skill floor required to be able to pull off a move 8-9 times out of 10 in the middle of a fight. I think it's retarded for a game to require it's players to memorize a movelist to even be able to play a character.
>How is a mentally handicapped invalid going to know what frame data is or how to space?
Someone who is multidisciplinary in gaming. Who plays as many different genres they can because they're fun, and doesn't want to spend an autistically disproportionate amount of time to learn one genre or even one game.

>And he plays trash 4, of course. 10 frames of input buffer man, so fun.
It's fun because I can get my friends to sit down and play who either haven't touched the game before or, don't play games period and have them enjoying the game within 10 minutes.
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>>170351973
For me the game is a 9/10, I can't get enough of it. Shame the majority of the community is bitter.
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>>170351121
Nice. Think I'll check it out.
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>Literally grinded 7K just for this ornament
I regret nothing
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>>170352476
Is that a raider? Word has it that they are legendary.
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>>170351394
I report them for cheating and griefing whenever I see an AFK player.
Teammates especially piss me off when they do it.
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>>170352382

I think the vocal majority is bitter, but I think there are a lot of us who are having fun with the game. It's also tough because there are a lot of good games coming out around now that are taking my time away from FH. I get a match or two in per day and if an order requires me to do 10 of X game types, they just don't get done.
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Was gone for a few days and it seems like the warden hate has toned down. Have people finally realized that Warlord and Conqu are the biggest cancer ingame?
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>>170352476
I'm holding out for the Mythic outfit on my Raider.
I've got 8600 right now and will get 2200 if I complete all my dailies and the world event pops.
Not sure how much steel I'd get on a per match basis but I hope to get the outfit at least by the end of the week.
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>>170352739
just wasting your time. Ubi already posted on the official forums saying you need to upload video proof of someone afking and they will look into it. People are going to afk til they patch it just like in siege.
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>>170343154
This question has been deemed too relevant.
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>>170353019
I don't think I've run into any real good Conquerors, what makes them so OP?
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>>170353040
Yeah, the Forge outfit isn't bad but I find the head ornament a bit too fancy for a raider, and I honestly don't give a shit about the execution effects, so Gote god was perfect for me.
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>>170353019
The consensus seems to be that Warlord is way overtuned in his current state.
Requiring at least some attack value adjustment and maybe move framedata tweaks.

There isn't really a consensus on Conqueror at the moment because his kit relies a lot on his Heavy/Bash vortex and little else is viable.
If that gets broken then the character breaks.
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>>170353278
>Heavy/Bash vortex
Fuck off retard.
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>>170344323
>abysmal range
>poor stamina
>squishy

In exchange she is
>fast
>has Bleed
>strong light mixup

She is balanced. I mean her and have been working on warden and conq. I really never have issues with a PK that weren't my fault.
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>>170353216
Dash guard into shield charge beats almost the whole cast. It guards any attacks while dashing and if you try to GB him hes immune because of charge. If he whiffs shield charge hes safe to block or tech GB.
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>>170353562
>bleed
Isn't a problem in an of itself. Total damage could certainly be too high, but there's nothing specifically wrong with bleed.
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>Warlord's headbutt tracking

Insanity
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>>170353221
I like the ornament personally, since it's more 3-Dimensional than Goat God.
The effect is also a bonus for me since it's more subtle than the Flames and doesn't make me look like a faggot like Cherry Blossoms or Godrays
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>>170353691
I know. I just wanted to list 3 pros. Her Bleed isn't as good as nobushi's in terms of application and damage.
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>>170353562
>PK mains are so delusional and every single one spews the same lines
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>>170353562
>abysmal range
heh. good joke. [insert webm of literally hitting someone as they go around a corner]

>poor stamina
running out of stamina doesn't mean shit if you can still dodge perfectly, block, and parry. It just means you can't attack for the next 5 or so seconds

>squishy
140 HP. AKA 20 HP less than the average amount for most classes besides heavy classes. Or 1 heavy attack less of health

>fast
as fuck boi
>bleed
Like someone on a period. Feats (yes, you will say "don't balance on 4v4 modes that are the most popular modes that the majority of players play on")
>stong light mixup
Guard change direction penalty. See image to right.

>she is balanced
Hahaha no.
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>>170353620
Wait the charge blocks attacks too? I did not know that. So I'm guessing if you have no dash attacks you can't punish missed charges?
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>played 24/7 in the beta
>can't buy the game because shitty wages and currency difference and shit
>really REALLY want to play
what do
Should i steal car radios and sell them for money?
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>>170353840
It's not a pro though. It's a negative, because those attacks don't do all their damage up front. The pro is disproportionately high damage on those attacks to compensate, but the bleed is still a negative.
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>>170353390
>Conqueror lands a heavy
>They hit you with a shield bash which causes your character to be hitstunned for long enough that another heavy can land
>repeat until Conqueror is exhausted
Not that hard to see the vortex. Conqueror's is just a lot slower and easier to avoid than Warden's. It's also balanced out so it can't be used more than 3 times at max stamina.
I'm not even saying it's bullshit, just that it's the only offensive tool Conqueror has outside of Infinite Light mixups, which is trivial to block after the first two hits.
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Making progress with the lawbringer. Soon enough, I will reach rep 3.
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>>170354153
you have no idea what makes conq strong
you should stop speaking now
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>>170353562
>>poor stamina
>>squishy
Nigger, she's got the same health as half the cast and the most stamina
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>>170354205
Halfway to rep2 here.
I'm worried I'm going to stop getting matched with idiots long before I can consistently parry lights.
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>>170353562
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>>170354292
>posted the crappy old emblem
brb sudoku
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>>170348315
>crossing weapons to block
you've never actually done this, have you? that's a one way trip to stab in the chest town, anon
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>>170354263
Well then maybe you should tell me what makes him so strong, if you know so much.
Don't just call people retarded with no evidence to back it up. That's just retarded.
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>>170348209
Someone argue with me
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I feel like Conq is either really, really strong, or completely useless. I either go 12-0 in a dominion match, or like 3-5. It all depends on if the enemy team can dodge the shield bash.

I'm satisfied w/ where the conq is right now though. It feels fair. You win against baddies who spam lights and zones, but lose against competent players who can dodge 1 or 2 shield charges.
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>>170354205
Forgot my pic.
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>>170354029
This is hard to explain but basically what they do is you attack and the conqueror will try to block > dash > charge. If you feint and go for GB the charge comes at you and counters the GB. The only class that beats this option select is PK as their zone attack is fast enough to beat it. This leads into a 50/50 where the conqueror can dash then parry the zone attack or let the charge go out. If you try to dash attack its to slow to counter the charge and it gets blocked (and depending on the character blocking dash attacks is a free GB) The main issue with charges is they recover so fast that you can't punish it.
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>>170354568
>dominion
It feels the same in duel modes, though, both as him and against.
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>>170354527
this has been written in every single thread, i should just make a pasta for every class:

conq:
>shiledbash cannot be punished
>full block will prevent any damage, even after being hit by shoulder/headbut etc
>bash after fullblock block is guaranteed
>if you get near a wall or a corner you are dead
>if you run out of stam you are dead

no one uses heavy + bash since that's easily avoided

>>170354549
game can barely support 4v4
in client tournaments would be cool tho
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>>170354019
PK is not really unbalanced, her first light is the same speed as most other lights, 30f. The second light being 24f and the zone being 18f, safe, 50% stamina cost and low damage.

Her bleed probably does too much damage but it almost instantly gives your opponent revenge from what is presumably a bug.

I'm not a PK player at all but I don't have that much trouble adapting to them in duel. Nobody in this game is too powerful, only the whiners.

Stop calling for nerfs already noobs. Whine Whine Whine Whine.
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>>170354952
>game can barely support 4v4
>in client tournaments would be cool tho
Tournaments based on 4v4 could work too. Winner of each duel fights the other winners, loser bracket fights also exist to give losers something to do and a little compensation for their time.
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>>170348209
>8v8
Never gonna happen. Ubi's servers shit the bed with 4v4, do you really think it can handle double?
>heavily discouraged ganking
Like with Revenge? I know people hate the mechanic but it's the only thing stopping deathballs from dominating the team meta
>no gear and no buffs
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Don't you know what "competitive gaming" is these days?
Team modes require gear stats, like all the great MOBAs have.

>I just want a proper tournament mode, or at least people splitting off into 1v1s on a large map
You're asking for 2 different things, my friend.
A tournament mode would have to be a menu driven 1v1 mode that has spectating and prize pools.
Team-wide 1v1s would require a game mode that separates teams into individuals either through objectives or spawning to artificially pair off people
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Is berzerker angry because he's so short?
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>>170354527
see this >>170354656 too
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>>170355074
And cause his axe is smaller than Raider's. Plus I think he's Canadian.
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Can you rebind controllers on PC yet?
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>>170354051
How about doing something more productive for society like turning tricks in alleyways?
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>>170355074
Yes, do you relate manlet?
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>>170355237
>controller
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>>170354995
>I'm not a PK player at all
Please see: >>170354402
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>>170355278
As long as people don't see through my female(male) disguise then sure
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>>170352476

I like the crown thing a bit more. Probably my favorite ornament in the game overall.
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>>170355237
You can do anything on PC.
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>>170355237
Why don't you just torch your PC in a bonfire if you can't figure out how to remap a button on your controller? You're obviously retarded.
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>>170354051
metashit has been discovered and the game isn't half as fun as it was in the beta, you aren't missing out on much
I wouldn't buy it if I knew how unfun it would get tbqh
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>>170355302
i play femzerker and yes
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>>170355383
I haven't even attempted it,I had just heard it wasn't possible earlier and was wondering if that was changed.

What's got you so angry friend?
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>>170355387
Shit you're right, i remember being hyped as fuck for R6Siege, but when i borrowed my friend's ACC it wasn't that fun.
I guess i could check if any of my friends has it and is willing to lend me his acc for a while
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>>170355336
Claiming something is broken is just such an outlandish proposition. And yet we have retards who barely play the game doing it constantly.

>x is broken because... my feelings
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>>170355069
4v4 could work if planned right.
>heavily discouraged ganking
Either with outright mechanics preventing people from interfering completely or adding enough penalties where only the most tryhardy douche would still do it just for the kill number.
>no gear and no buffs
:3cc
>I just want a proper tournament mode, or at least people splitting off into 1v1s on a large map
It's hard to explain, but I like the "epicness" and large maps full of people with elimination, the duel mode doesn't really compare.

I would agree they should be separate, but I do like both ideas.
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>>170355362
Thanks for the only decent reply, friend
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>>170355606
np. you can thank me by sending my pictures of your shaved legs.
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>>170355717
this desu
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>>170355069
>>170355573
do you guys really not have any fun when like 4 characters are fighting and its a complete clusterfuck?

the 4v4 are a lot of fun even though i was averse to them at first
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What were the best memes to come out of this general?
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>parry predictable shitters
>they think its hacking

Morning queues are a salt fest geez.
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>>170355387
Chill. The game is only out for 3 weeks and the devs are still tweaking the classes for balance.
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>>170355794
I like 1 on 1 fights and giant maps full of people. Occasional gangbanging is fine since it can easily be returned, but it's too common
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Are the game's connection issues really as bad all the reviews claim ?
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>faggot PK constantly tries to dash overhead me
>MI SKUZI her shit every time
>wow nice spam dude
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>>170356038
at least by half
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>>170356060
>Honorfag
>Only ledge PKs
>Ledge PK one day
>One was a little upset but not angry or butthurt about it
I honestly felt bad
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>>170355717
>>170355750

I-if I have no choice...
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>>170356164
>feeling bad
>over removing PK scum
You're soft.
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Anyone know the cause/fix?
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>>170355927
i get your idea but its way too structured and makes no sense for the current 4v4rs
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>Want to play sword and board
>No Centurion in the near future
>Only Warlord
>The mass of complaining already

He's the person I like the most aesthetically, he just happens to be FOTM and it hurts
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>>170356312
stop being so edgy
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>>170355237
start game via steam, in big picture ( google it ) you can reset anything, deadzones etc
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Hey, can someone post all the weapons Common, Rare, and Heroic gear?
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>>170356272
Was low level so I don't think he knew PK was broken hypercancer yet.
>>170356371
I just want elimination with less gangbanging and no gear/buffs basically
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>>170355473
It's not possible to rebind controllers within the game itself. The primary workaround is to use Steam's Big Picture mode to change it yourself.
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>>170356381
I just hope people flock to ninja because muh shinobi

But its looking equal in terms of popularity
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>>170356461
search on reddit, they had posted them all i think
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>>170356495
Making someone not want to play PK anymore is another victory.
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Ok guys, ive got a perfect recipie on how to get salt in industrial levels
>duel normally at first
>wait for your enemy to get real low
>1-2 bars
>then do enviromental
>video much related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT00dDCXj_s
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>>170343109

Aarpian is a massive salty fag and I've only ever seen him talk shit and lose.
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>>170356312
reported
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>>170355850
Like it or not, Lewdkeeper is one of /fhg/'s biggest memes, to the point where even Reddit acknowledges him/her.
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>>170356596
Aarpian is a fucking god and he would body you. Have you ever won a tournament? First place? He has. Now go jerk off to your favorite streamer.
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>log in after a week and a half of not playing
>elimination 4v4
>my opponent is peacekeeper prestiege 7 108 peacekeeper
>she throws lights fast very hard to block
>manage to parry one
>she is out of stamina
>connect guardbreak and throw her
>she is still standing while exhausted after being thrown
>she does a light then zone to fast to block
>DEAD
>exit to desktop

I remember why I quit playing this shitty game.
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>>170356636
I don't think lewdkeeper has ever seen a vagina, much less likely that they possess one
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requesting a pic with Apollyon and Valkyre saying "Baaa"
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>>170356573
No. You must get low HP, not them. It's either an instant ringout, multiple failed attempts, or when you're about to die and they're full hp. You get the best reactions in brawl when you ring out someone that is fighting your teammate though. Trust me, I'm an expert at this.
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>>170356636
That faggot got disowned. He is plebbit's meme now, they are free to keep it along with any other smut degeneracy.
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>>170356443
>>170356513

Thanks guys, I'll look into this tonight.

Please don't ask for shaved leg pics
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>>170356674

He probably would, but I dont care for the competitive element of this game as it just involves sitting not attacking and waiting for parries.

I watched a tournament last night and he got fucked over by a PK while trying to be a cheesy faggot and disengaging and standing beside a ledge when he was getting beat.

Anyway, why are these tournaments ran by that toxic fuck DM Brandon? He is literal aids.
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>>170356698

Yet here you are, seeking out a thread dedicated to it to tell us how much you don't like it and don't care about such a shitty game.

Lmao
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>>170356758
here you go senpai
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>>170356758

This one?

>>170356573
people get mad at environmental regardless, you can GBC off a ledge someone who was trying to ledge you and they'll still get mad
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>>170356636
>>170356751
>>170356798
kys faggots
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>>170356882
>>
Unparryable yet still blockable weapon attacks when?
>Unparryable yet still blockable weapon attacks when?
Unparryable yet still blockable weapon attacks when?
>Unparryable yet still blockable weapon attacks when?

High level gameplay is absolute AIDS right now because it is always better to parry instead of regular block. With an unparryable, yet still blockable attack, we could mix it up even more and make regular blocking necessary every now and then, mixing up the turtle meta a bit.
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>>170356863
t-that bulge OwO!
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>>170356851
Where did I say I didn't care?
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>>170353562
>poor stamina
literally irrelevant as she can backdash faster than most of the cast can sprint even when out of stamina
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>>170356861
a little bit more kawaii,please?
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>>170356636
I said best, not biggest.
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>>170356964
>unlock
>don't get parried
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>>170356863
I am yet to see a guy who gets salty in chat just after an enviromental.
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>>170356964
What sort of attacks would be unparryable yet blockable?
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>>170356863
>people get mad at environmental regardless, you can GBC off a ledge someone who was trying to ledge you and they'll still get mad

[GaMiNG_NitroXXX] wow!
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>>170354019
Where the fuck is this data from?
I've seen different numbers.
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>>170357362
Guess I'm lucky
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>>170357386
probably certain slow-ass heavies
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Could it be that I found a LAW vortex?
>heavy
>shove
>heavy
>shove
and so on. You just have to change directions and it turns into 33/33/33.
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>>170357424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTWO7W1VrI
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>>170357497
No, its reactable, whole point about the vortex in this is that its none reactable for the person stuck in it.
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>>170357497
It's counterable, but you're cute.
Fight someone who can parry at the drop of a hat. Level three bots can respond sometimes if you spam that, too.
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>>170357497
wow dude try that out in a duel!! sounds great secret tech!
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Wish they didn't add more assassins right away
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>>170357497
>just throw out a heavy bro
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>>170357657
I'm not them but you're a faggot.
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>>170357497
Super easy to block, reasonably easy to parry, and can even dodge out of either the heavy or the shove.
I mean, I main law, so I wish, but no. Might get a couple hits against scrubs at low rep, but it's absolutely not a real vortex.
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>>170357549
>Heavy classes switch faster than hybrids
Why are not all guard changes the same fucking speed? Who thought this was fucking fair?
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>>170357854
Because it is fair? The defensive classes have better defensive capabilities. I wonder why.
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>>170357854

This. I really don't get why this is the case
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>>170357854
my guess is that ubisoft never considered this game much for high-level play and changed guard stances to fit their animations, ie characters wielding long-hafted weapons have to switch grips instead of just shimmy their arms around
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>>170357932
It would be a wrong assumption, the switch the same for every character for the first block.
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>>170357820
>dodge
And thats where it gets interesting. I had people dodging out of it, but if they dodge to the side - it tracks. Also, if you manage to get a top heavy - that allows you either to extend the combo or finish it with unblockable. I really wish LB could attack a little bit faster tho
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>DLC movesets that can be bought with steel

Would you?
Might make the game more varied.
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>>170358341
didn't they try that shit with MKX and it just made 2/3 of every characters options trash?
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Who thought this would be a good idea?
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>>170358341
>what are executions
I know you said movesets, but that's some unbalanced shit that would literally destroy the entry-level competitive population.
>ywn find the gamer equivalent of the conqueror if you do this
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>>170358458
What's wrong with it? It is meant to be completed by players who are good at the game not just anyone. thats why its not one of the two main orders.
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>>170358341
Absolutely not. Buying core gameplay is inexcusable.
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Why does this game's match making suck so bad.
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can you even break out of pk's gb triple stab?
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>>170358607
ubisoft is about half a step above nintendo for online services
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>>170358341
>Gameplay DLC
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>>170358341
No, what the fuck
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>>170358583

You know you're gonna have to buy DLC characters with steel too, right?

Did..did you think you would get them for FREE? HAH.

No, it will probably cost 25,000 steel per character.
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>>170358636
Yes. Don't get grabbed.
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>>170358458
>please play modes outside of duel, double duel and dominion, youll like them we swear!
>>
>Want the 15k berserker outfit
>90% chance Ubi is going to charge a god damn fortune to unlock the new heroes
What do I do
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>>170358583
You're not going to like the 15-20k steel dlc characters.
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>>170358232
can't they just parry you?
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>>170358705
Only if you want to level and customize them would you buy the DLC characters with Steel. It's why I got the season pass: so I can spend my Steel on other stuff. That said, characters and movesets are two different things. Even then, I don't like my character choice being restricted. It's why I like games that give you the option to buy a game and get all characters for life.
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>>170358636
Yes, sometimes I get out of it after a first stab. Tech animation plays and so on
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>>170357924
>better defensive capabilities
What does lawbringer have besides the shove that doesn't combo into anything? If he doesn't parry you you are completely fine, and due to light attack spam + guard direction penalty + 8 frame input delay + reaction time this basically means lawbringer cannot beat a PK light spamming if they are constantly changing direction by anything other than guessing. Also making people kara canceling unpunishable. Also makes people that have fast lights able to feint a heavy in 1 direciton and then light attack in another unpunishable.

What about shugoki that doesn't get any defensive ability other than his hyper armor? Sure he can trade with you but if he has hyper armor he takes more damage for that hit that he takes.

Conq is as fast as a PK, so he doesn't count as having a slower guard direction penalty.\

Raider doesn't get anything off blocking attacks, and after a parry he can either light attack or do his running charge.

WARLORD OF ALL PEOPLE HAS THE FASTEST PENALTY OF ALL CLASSES

Please explain how it is fair? What exactly do these characters get defensively that would make this fair?
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>>170358705
>>170358865
at least compared to r6s the dlc heroes will be playable without purchasing, you just can't deck them out
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>>170358607
I've never had an issue with it. It just seems to extend the skill window too fast.
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>>170358819
Buy season pass
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>>170358954
That's highly debatable.
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>very high activity in elim
>takes 2 minutes to find a match
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>>170358341
Dont give them ideas
>>170358910
Havent been parried yet. Usually theyre too confused to respond.
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>>170358954
>>170358819
>>170358705
I thought the rainbow six siege operators were cheap if you bought the game but if you buy the starter pack then they become absurd amount to unlock?
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>>170359043
$20 and we'll talk.
>>170359118
Marketingfag here (why do I always need to preface common sense with this); you're not some genius corporate strategist; Ubi's extensively considered from all angles what'll make them the most money; it's not as simple as "lol y dont they just do x!"

Movesets would cause a ton of people to leave the game, not spending their money on waifu outfits and also dissuade a ton of people from joining.
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>>170358927
Do you have brain problems? The defensive characters have better guard switch spam for easier parries/blocks. Why do you think it's the reverse?
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>throw a out of stamina opponent on the ground but you miss the killing blow
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How we're fighting AFK Farming
MARCH 3 - UBI_GAIDHEAL
Greeting Warriors,


1st offense will trigger a warning, then, repeated violations may result in a Ubisoft account suspension applicable on the game (temporary or permanent).

Actual disciplinary action depends on the severity of the behavior and shall be decided at Ubisoft’s discretion, on a case by case basis.

Please understand that no details about the state of our investigation into this matter will be disclosed at any stage. Rest assured that sanctions will only be applied if there is clear evidence.

Starting early next week, warning sanctions will be applied to all first time offenders.
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>tfw that rep 13 orochi stream

Why is this guy so comfy
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>>170359091
it's not, it's been confirmed by Ubisoft's Top Men.

>>170359150
the base roster of heroes are relatively cheap, starting at 500 operator bux when unlocking the first person for any given paramilitary organization and then capping at 2000 for the last guy, but the dlc/new operators cost 25k each
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>>170359118
if they're unable to parry shit like that, you're probably just better off mashing lights until they die honestly
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>>170358232
It'll only catch dodges if they're mashing it and not trying to time the attack at all.

>>170359118
No offense but you're about to hit a real unfun roadblock as LB once you start fighting people that actually parry your heavies, let alone block them.
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>>170359314
>it's real
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1596872-How-we-re-fighting-AFK-Farming

Was about to jump on that ship, too.
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>>170358927
>Defensive class gets better block
>fast classes get dodge, but slow block
>everyone else is balanced
Sounds good on paper, you have to admit.
Just a shame that's not how it works out in the game itself, but that's also down to the defensive meta.

Also warlord is OP, but not because of his defensive ability, that one part is working ok.
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>>170359280
Glad people at Ubi understand that. Im sick of hearing about the same EA-Blizzard-Bethesda combo every time in the news
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>>170359326
The currency you get in siege is higher per match compared to for honor though. They most likely will be 10-15k each.
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>>170359291
Do YOU?
Lawbringer THE COUNTER ATTACKER DEFENSIVE CHARACTER
Raider
Shugoki

All of these characters have the HIGHEST delay penalty while THESE characters have the LOWEST
PK
Warden
Warlord
Kensei
Valk

>>170359412
I wish it were as you say. There is no reason why lawbringer deserved to have the second slowest guard direction penalty in the game when everything about him is so slow that he can't do anything but parry since shoving doesn't do anything.
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Currently playing Warden, is anyone else having issues procing the quick second slash after the first hit? I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I was able to pull it off just a day or so ago.
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>>170359326
>it's not, it's been confirmed by Ubisoft's Top Men.
Makes me confused why the season pass is 40 fucking dollars then. Please source that claim though, I'd like to see it.
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>>170359339
>have to hit that many times for a kill
is Kensei low tier damage
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>>170359352
Already met them. Faggots turtle like theres no tomorrow, unnerves the hell out of me. Also, I wish to meet PKs as gullible as this >>170358910 >>170359339, mine always mix their shit or just hit me since their attack is faster anyway
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>>170358427

No? The fuck are you talking about
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>>170359457
Ubi's reputation is less-than-great, EA and Blizzard have a following large enough that they can do whatever the fuck they want. Even if EA is also considered shit (it is), console plebs have way less choice in the matter than mustard race.
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>>170359625
The season pass gives you the characters for free (aka you don't have to purchase them with steel) 2 weeks early.

Assuming it is like R6S, the new characters will cost A LOT of steel to unlock. Due to the system in game currently you'll most likely be able to play the characters, but you will not be able to customize them.

Source: Ubisoft's season pass advertisement
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>>170358571
>Killstealing
>Good
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>>170359412
>Warlord is OP
>Warlord is OP
>Warlord is OP

Still no evidence m8, try harder.
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>>170354019
>>170354013
>>170354402
Lol. Meme all you want, but I can still beat PKs with no real issues with any hero I am comfortable with. As someone who fights with and against her I see no real problems.
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>>170359612
dont change guard mid swing
double clicking should work
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>>170359625
I actually looked into it and I couldn't find a source, might just be talking out my ass and making assumptions based on how recruiting works now
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>>170359681
his chain finishers do a fuckload of damage, but in order to hit them you usually have to be near a wall unless you catch someone out with a cancel or some shit
his lights do good damage for lights, though

>>170359717
just queue a lot and you will
i usually get matched with pretty good players, but randomly i got matched with this level 1 berserker who was completely new to the game
the matchmaking is fucked
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>>170359854
I'm not involved in this argument, but if the prevailing consensus is he's OP (as agreed upon by Ubi), burden of proof is on you.
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>>170359743
Yeah, Nintendo shit was pretty nasty lately. Ubi just have to pick up the pace to improve imo
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>>170358710
But sometiems you will get grabbed.

and they do the most damage from one gb than others can with a heavy
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>low activity in both duel modes
dead game
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>>170348310
>people whining about tiers in a fighting game.

>people pretending that for honor is a fighting game
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>>170359802
Funny, Ubisoft claims you can't.
>Heroes can be unlocked with Steel, For Honor’s in-game currency that can be earned by completing matches and in-game challenges.

I'm asking where it can be verified that they are free to try.
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>>170359314
>>170359393
AKA we are not doing shit unless someone joins your afk match and records 15 minutes of you standing in base and then uploads it to youtube and then submits it to us on our official forums which you have to sign up for. So keep doing this til its patched in 4 months. Not to mention if you queue for dominion vs AI at night 99% of the people are afking so you usually just join a group of 3 other afks and wont even see another player 90% of the time.
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>>170359863
"i beat PKs all the time on my kensei"
"just parry it lol xD"
"what do you mean low mmr i wait whole 15s for a match"
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>>170341856
>maxed out revenge gain by defence gear on berserker
>block 6 attacks in 2 v 1, dont get revenge
>roach in 1 v 1
>doesnt parry any of my attacks, blocks 2 of them
>gets revenge

I'm seriously thinking of reporting this guy. Has anyone witnessed real hackers for this game?
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>>170359920
>prevailing reddit whining is he's op
Nope. All assumptions and bad players. Warlord is not OP. You have to prove something deserves changes. The burden of proof here is on the one that makes the claim that leads to change.
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>>170359854
>heavy attacks get hyper armor for no reason
>gets heavy attack if they full block any attack
>superior block gives them a free light attack
>headbutt gives free light
>mixups similar to wardens to get GB if they try to dodge the headbash
>near non-existance delay penalty on guard direction change
>headbash costs almost no stamina for a free light
>guard break someone, drag them 50 miles to the nearest ledge

wew. how about you find proof that he's NOT OP?

>>170360025
Well until they actually come out we can only assume the new characters will work like the current ones that you can use but not customize.
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>black irivista bita spamming viking
>username is mohammed

I just want to get better at the game and fight against competent opponents. Is that too much ask for?
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>>170359986
>great gameplay
>nothing else
>full price
It's going to be another Rainbow Six situation.
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>>170359949
I hate all of their gimmicks but at least they have decent exclusives I'm somewhat interested in playing. Not buying a god damn Switch though
>>170360040
>Take average scores, kills, deaths etc. of players
>Choose an alpha to use for an acceptable standard deviation
>Outliers are banned
Or just inactivity timers
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>>170359986
Ps4 lost about 100k players in 3 weeks. But atleast the passionate players will stay.
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>>170360313

So it's going to get vastly better within a year and maintain a strong core playerbase with occasional free weekends to feed shitters to?
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>>170360347
>exclusives
Never understood buying a platform for exclusives only
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twitch /forhonorgame
Dev stream is live
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>>170360347
>Choose an alpha to use for an acceptable standard deviation
Forgot
>run an F test
Test obviously needs to specified, would love to see some chucklefuck running a T test then ban players for contributing
>>170360541
Either way Nintendo is the best option for mustard race since the PS4/Xbone have jack shit for exclusives that mustards actually care about
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>>170360512
I really hope itll take them less than a year this time
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>>170341856
Made a pasta for a quick reply to anyone needing info why someone might be "OP"

http://pastebin.com/UqVWUMBb
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>>170360347
>banned
It says in that post they would just give you a warning. If you had been afking and playing since the game launched you would have a total of atleast prestige 44 and like 180k steel
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>>170360625
Thanks for the notification!
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>>170348779

Usually he hides it behind him gritting his teeth and saying "nice.." 34 times a minute.
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>>170360736
Warning first offense, bans for subsequent.
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>>170360625
LB BUFF WHEN
WARLORD NERF WHEN
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>Shooting the shit with Penny Arcade
Eh.
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>>170360760
soloq life
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>>170360825
but at the point they warned you they already won. Prestige 44 and 180k steel is enough to buy DLC chars for this and next season.
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>>170360724
didn't see you list that PK's zone is 18 frames, cancelable after the first hit, and completely unpunishable on block
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>>170361015
They should really rollback accounts that obviously AFK farmed tbqhfam
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>>170349454
ConsoleCommie has a nice ring to it.
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>>170361037
>fastest attack in the game
forgot to mention it's her zone

>all attacks are + on block, meaning you can just q another attack even after being blocked
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>>170359314
>>170359393
so its just going to trigger on 4v4 dominion and probably not 2v2, because then its just bot+dude vs 2 bots. ez
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>>170360445
It's not surprising to me in the least bit. Games like For Honor that require a little effort on the player's part to do well are not popular with the mainstream casual audience. The gaming market is filled to the fucking brim with "duurrr i juz wunna shut muh brain off" faggots that think every game needs to be catered to them because they're too lazy to put in the little effort required.

Video games are full of special snowflak crybabies who want to be "pros" at everything but don't want to put forth the effort, they just want everything handed to them. This is exactly why fighting games in general are not popular.
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>>170360760
>quit to world map
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>>170360724
btw, shugoki's charge isn't a real 50/50, if you match his direction the charge won't connect, similar to warlord here
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>>170360512
More like it'll be dead for 6 months while the game will get fixes and improvements, see several price cuts and free weekends which eventually brings in a flood of new players to revitalize the game. We can only hope.
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>>170360223
Let me obliterate your terrible arguments real quick

>heavy attacks get hyper armor for no reason
This isn't the most useful thing in the world since it's only near the very end of the heavy. The primary use is the unsafe jumping strike on a hard read. What does no reason even mean? Why does anyone have any move, they just do.
>gets heavy attack if they full block any attack
Yeah it has around half a second of startup and costs stamina. It's strong.
>headbutt gives free light
Low damage and headbutt is risky. Warden gets more damage on shoulder.
>mixups similar to wardens to get GB if they try to dodge the headbash
So just roll away? There are a lot of options after a headbutt -> light situation for both players.
>near non-existance delay penalty on guard direction change
Not that important but certainly helps parrying quick attacks.
>headbash costs almost no stamina for a free light
Not really correct, you can only do a couple which will only lead to around 30-40 damage and 3/4 stamina gone if they absoultely suck since his mixups are skewed toward the opponent.
>guard break someone, drag them 50 miles to the nearest ledge
Are you upset?

You didn't mention his most powerful tool which means you're a shitter of course. His parry combo. Warlord is a slow paced character that has to whittle you down a little bit at a time. This makes the shitter angry.

I guess we should just remove him from the game if all this shit is too strong.


WEW two (You)s

That's quite the outlandish assumption. The game comes with every character already "unlocked." They don't use the word recruit.
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>>170361113
If they did a massive amount of them would flat out quit. Ubi doesnt want them to quit. Not to mention a large portion of the community is mainly doing this because you don't get enough steel to customize your character and item level 108 is extremely broken in 4v4.
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>>170348262
Conq is objectively better defensively tho
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The dev seems nervous.

Cute!
>>
Dev stream boys
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>>170360724
everything you wrote about shugoki is retarded and you should feel bad about it
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Live (server) update this Thursday

Near future: PC hotfix - will address "Quit to Desktop," adds AFK fix, Intel driver stuff, other little things

First wave of AFK sanctions going out this week; if you're still AFKing by the end of the week, you're banned
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>>170361446
>>170361461
Link?
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>>170361357
t.warlord

it's not like every tournament was won by a warlord
oh wait it was
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>live update this week
PLEASE BE LB BUFF
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>>170344596
I've said it a bunch already but I bet you all platforms would've cleared it with time to spare if like every other game wasn't fucking dying thanks to salty bitches hard killing process, even on console you can crash out matches if you just axe the process.
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New customizations boys!
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>>170361552
>if you're still AFKing by the end of the week, you're banned

BUT MUH GEAR
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>new content guys!
>its ornaments and shit
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>>170361559
You can keep trying Reddit but it doesn't work.
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New ornaments yay, conq's looks like shit
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As much as I complain and moan, this game does reward practice.

Whilst I haven't managed to bring the warden's unblockable into my playstyle, I figured how to best use revenge, and how to fight 2v1's without letting my opponent pop revenge and catch us all off guard.

A lot of it has been down to webms and discussion on here as well.

You then realise I didn't even get a great score.
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New ornament for everyone this Thursday
Nobushi's Whirlwind mood effect will be available to all champs
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>>170361357
Jesus christ you are delusional

>has hyper armor on all heavy attacks for no reason even though there are slower, larger, and more heavily armored characters that do not
>Literally unpreventable heavy attack off it so how much time and stamina doesn't matter
>get do this forever since it costs almost no stamina to do it
>Idiot argument
>>not that important
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>Yes it is correct, if I wasn't on my laptop I would be able to show you exact numbers from in game how much stamina it costs
>>"le u mad bro?!?!?!"

Nice argument. Found the warlord main.
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>>170361656
your post really made my almonds activate
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>>170361552
>>170361647
They literally said we will issue a warning by thursday and if you continue to afk we will work towards bans.
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>>170361552
>jewbisoft literally banning people for not playing their game
Wow
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>>170361556
>>170360625
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>>170341856
>8 takedowns
>0 deaths
>Order not complete
????
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>>170345704
>Play broken character
>Tell other people to git gud
Wew
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>>170360646
>PS4/Xbone have jack shit for exclusives that mustards actually care about

Maybe the faggots that only play muh ebib eroge and VNs or train sim spergs sure, but PS4's had a lot of good shit for a while now. Really it's only the xbacks that circled the drain hard a long time ago, they saw nobody was buying, they started putting any of their exclusives of value on PC too, now there's even less reason.
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>>170361357
>headbutt is risky
fucking lmao
>>
Got 7/8 people in a skirmish to just methodically massacre eachother for the 8 killstreak order.

5/7 people got it

each team had almost 2k points and got enough xp for literally a full level (half to half)
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>>170361758
How do explain Kensei's zone attack having FULL hyper armor?

Deus Vult xDDD am I right?
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>>170354205
Your future is going up against people who never fail to miss the grand Canyon sized GBC window, know that your change guard speed is gimped, that pike charge can be countered by guarding left, and that every attack except your top light can be parried by a sloth.
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>>170356798
I settled with the gay furry Discord, thank you.
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>>170361920
It is. Every character can punish it for massive damage besides Conq who gets a smaller punish. I know you're low in the skill bracket, but if you learn how to punish it you'll be much better at the game!
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>>170361960
>zone attack that takes a full 4 seconds to fully finish

Nigger every no other character has hyper armor on their HEAVY attacks besides him even though his side heavy attacks are moderately fast.

Stop moving the goal posts because you can't think of a counter argument.
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>Connectivity notes
Improved session creation rate
Keeping track of who is playing with who
Working on bugs in group matchmaking

Group matchmaking protips:
>Region matchmaking and overall connectivity is based on the group leader
>This includes NAT connectivity
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>>170362092
Kensei has hyper armor on his unblockable cancel.
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Ubisoft will release a document later this week that comprehensively goes over how to open your NAT.
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>>170362085
>Every character can punish it for massive damage besides Conq who gets a smaller punish
>This doesn't happen at 'high' level
>This doesn't happen at tournament level

So where does this even happen, trench level where it's a warlord throwing them out like back to back from feet away and then someone whacks them because they're retarded?
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What de la phuque?
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>>170362230
Lol no it doesn't. Also once again you are moving the goal post. No other character has hyper armor on their heavy attacks even though warlord has moderately fast heavy attacks.
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>>170362349
Depends on the type of nuts

I love the accent
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>>170361229
w-what
how do you do this again
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>>170349210
You mean like, video games
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>>170362432
Fucking frog fucks. Screen freeze when quitting to map fixed when?
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Ubisoft is beginning the process of rebalancing their stats internally, so as to make up for gear factoring into matchmaking. They're adamant that a GS 1 player should be able to beat a GS 108 player if they're a better player.
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>>170362389
But that's a good thing? Characters shouldn't all be the same. A mechanic that is unique to one character is called variety. Not me btw.
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>>170360178
>what is gear
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>>170362315
My friends issue is hes is in university dorms and has no way to open up his NAT. Ever since the servers crashed that one week and they "fixed" them he has been red NAT and can't play the game at all.
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>>170362325
Yeah headbutt is too risky at god level.
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>>170361656
>o-oh no im losing the argument

REDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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Humblebrag time

Post stats & compare against your fellow autists
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>>170357497
Why do shitters struggle to understand what a vortex is?
>>
why cant i fight against or play as fucking conquerors. what the fuck am i doing wrong?
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>>170362434
just move in the same direction as the attacker, only works on warlord/shugoki charges i think
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>>170362784
because it's an fgc buzzword people toss around here and it doesn't even apply because lmao unlock roll beats everything
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>>170362389
not him but yes it does
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>>170362538
>They're adamant that a GS 1 player should be able to beat a GS 108 player if they're a better player.

The problem here is that this is already possible and not the issue, people aren't saying it's 100% impossible, it's just a massive fucking miserable slog to beat even a single person using the ebin revenge gain meme.
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>>170362538
so they want the gear stats to be not that important at all so why even have them in the game?
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Are we getting a subbed recording of the live stream? I have a hard time understanding the frog dev.
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>>170362763
>doesn't post his skill ratings
bet you're not even top 100 kiddo
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In the process of improving connectivity, Ubisoft will be removing orders that require you to WIN matches. Orders that that tend to lead people to quit early if they're not winning, and that makes match connectivity shitty.
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>>170362930
Are you disabled or something?
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Holy fuck, it seems like devs know what they are fucking doing.
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>>170362991
Yes, why do you need to bring that up.
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>>170363045
Depends on what the next buffs/nerfs are
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>>170363045
Its just to bad they didnt have beta tests to fix these issues before they launched the game....
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>>170363045
it actually does. they're being very transparent too.

if they had been a little more vocal earlier on, i'd have been a lot less worried.

i mean fuck, they're taking their time with updates, but i have hope now
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>>170363158
They've got three weeks worth of data now. Some things you just don't catch until a game goes live.
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>>170363232
oh yeah no way to catch every good player saying
"lawbringer is fucking shit" in tech test 2 haha
>>
The devs extended the weekend community order because they fucked up their internal math.
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>>170362960
What is skill rating?
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>>170345991
>can't beat conq
>conq is at a severe disadvantage when spinning flail
???????
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>>170362325
>>170362696
>Warlord vs Conqueror
>Conq all-blocks every light confirm from headbutt
>Warlord can't punish a dodged shield bash
>Unable to damage each other, they stare into each other's eyes as they waltz eternally.

Can love bloom on the battlefield?
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>>170362763

Where do you get this information?
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>>170363542
means how skillful you are, not how much dominion you play to stat pad
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>>170363540
ded gaem, connec issues. and it's still only going to BARELY make it because no1 curr
>>
Holy shit, it's a woman.
>>
Who's the cute boy
>>
LORE BREAK
They're reading For Honor fanfiction.
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>>170363713
wat I thought it was a chubby guy
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>they mention fanfiction
Anon...
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>>170363713
FOR PATRIARCHY
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A BERZERKER POEM
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>>170363903
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>>170363761
>theyre actually reading it
>>
Jesus christ this cringe.
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>Enemy uses side heavy
>Plying conq so auto guard that direction
>His heavy still hits me even though it makes the block noise

So is this a bug or what?
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>>170363903
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That was terrible. I love it.
We need our own poem.
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>attacking a PK
>ever
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>zero filthy fanfics

They don't know..
>>
Theyre saying theres no lewd fanfiction. What the fuck
>>
Where's our fanfiction? Where's the Shugoki and Kensei inventing baseball? Where's the Lawbringer and Nobushi defending an Ashfeld village from a Raider party?
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>>170364037
Alright fags you know the drill
One word at a time

WE
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>>170363969
You got lag switched on, son.
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>They're complaining about the lack of fapfic
OH GOD
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>>170364047
is that actually a combo or he just didnt block after the first one?
>>
patch wen
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>>170364071
Pretty sure they take all the community creations from their forums and reddit sub.
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>>170364154
Server-side patch this Thursday.
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Clearly Berserker is the dev's favorite class.
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>>170364137
You can see him trying to block - but you can't be blocked on the PK zone if you know what you're doing
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>>170364047
>4 pk team
cancer
>>
LAW BUFFS

WALORD AND PEACEKEEPER REMOVED
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>>170363651
But how is skill determined? What algorithm is used? Otherwise its just as useless as stat padding
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>>170341856
>win all my 1 v 1s
>they start bitching in chat
>use revenge and my feats to beat their team 3 v 1 twice
>bitching in chat about how OP feats are
>dont die once, utterly destroy them
>they're still making excuses about how im bad and theyre really good, thats why they failed to kill me oncce

why can these shitters never take responsibility for their shittiness?
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Large balance passes will not be done in server-side patches.
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>>170364265
>LAW BUFFS
did they say what they are?
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>>170363969
Lag
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>>170364265
PLEASE BE TRUE
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>>170364334
shove range doubled
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>>170356312
>playing on PeeCee
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>warlords quaking in their boots
>>
Shugoki's phantom double hit/unparryable heavy - GONE
Kensei bug chaining unblockables - GONE
Conq/Warlord/Valk now have a slight delay when going into fullblock
Cleaning up the interaction of simultaneous guardbreaks
Cleaning up interactions on Valk's forward leap heavy
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>>170364498
>Playing in 30 FPS and making shit like PK even more unbearable
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>>170364484
>can still be dodged easily
>still can't confirm anything off a shove
I really hope that isn't it
>>
Ubisoft watches the forums/social media and their internal statistics to inform balance decisions. They insist on taking their time with balance changes. Kneejerk balancing is bad, especially when there's no data to work with. They also want to make sure that fixing one thing doesn't break something else.
>>
Dev admits that the LAW is low tier right now. I feel its too late to switch for me
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>>170364562
>Shugoki and Kensei losing more even if they're bugs

Also big old laughs all around if that's all they're really gonna do to warlord and maybe mess with headbutt a little bit. Also fukken lil to >>170364484 if that's true.
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>>170364562
>Cleaning up interactions on Valk's forward leap heavy
What? Valk doesn't have a forward leap heavy. It's a light.
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>>170364562
>Conq/Warlord/Valk now have a slight delay when going into fullblock
That's all?
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Ubisoft gets a lot of shit but their devs are allright for For Honor. They seem passionate about their game and actually listen to their community.
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>>170360045
>implying I play weeb shit
Nah. Conq, ward, and LB.

>inb4 a failure tries to argue all 3 heros are counters to PK
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The ONLY nerf PK needs is her zone attack.
Her lights are perfectly fine compared to her bullshit zone.
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>The greasy shit mains PK
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>>170364723
They will place emphasis on buffing shit characters first instead of nerfing good characters first.
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I wonder how many interactions FULL BLOCK nerf change.
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>>170364562
No raider buffs.
Also pk getting another buff

Confirmed ubisoft don't give a shit.
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>>170364778
Headbutt spam is a part of his character. Adapt or die...
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>>170364723
>Kneejerk balancing
>People at virtually all skills levels have been able to tell them that Lawman is bad since before the game came out
>People have been able to tell them PK is ridiculous and then they essentially buff them with the bleed fix and then actually buff them too out of fucking nowhere
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>>170364894
well the warlord wont be able to do that heavy off of it as much I guess
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Can anyone Conq player tell me how to discern between his lights and heavies? I felt like this should've been a kill
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it says long range on nobushi but im being outranged by a warden
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STRAIGHT FROM THE DEV'S MOUTH
RAIDER BEATS PEACEKEEPER

>>170364924
Raider buff is coming in a proper patch later. This is a server-side patch this week.
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>>170364924
what buff is PK Getting?
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>>170364927
>Adapt to this attack that comes out too quickly to adapt to

t. warlord
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>>170364807
Im really close to getting a boner every time i launch the game
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>>170365037
He's shitposting. There is no raw balancing being done with this server-side patch. That will come later.
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>>170365076
Predict it. Stuff it. Win...

>>170365003
Use your pokes, not your sweeps...
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>>170364838
no, i am arguing that you are shit
and giving the basic response
also the "works for me" is by no means an argument
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>Developers literally asked on stream for sex fanfiction

Where's your god now, prudes?
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>>170364924
>>170365010
What the fuck, is this literally another biased WoW devs incident where PK gets to be mage this time.
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>>170364807
My favorite part is they ignore the issue of getting 20-40 steel a match and executions cost 7k steel. Beating the fucking single player only gives you 5k. One character in this game has like a total of 80k steel worth of unlockables so fuck playing more than one character. Keep buying those micro-transactions goy
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So... What's coming with the update I'm getting in my xbone? Please tell me they're buffing Lawbringer, I need to crush some infidel weebs
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>>170365198
pk isn't getting buffed, it was a joke
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Warlord main here.
>remove light from full block
>convert the current heavy from full block into a light
>make headbutt cost as much stamina as a zone attack
That's my class fixed.

What about nerfing conq? how would that work?
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>>170365198
Did you miss where they openly joked about PK getting buffs? They acknowledge the community is complaining about her a lot.
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>>170365152
>Predict this move that can be used in pretty much any opening for free
>Stuff this quick attack that recovers quickly as well
>Overusing ellipses and probably has a nuruto emblem
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>>170365187
They can take it to the Ubisoft forums. It has no place on a blue board here.
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>>170358458
i went 16-0 and died at the tail end due to teammates running in and feeding the guy im fighting revenge
its kinda rng on whether you get complete retards, or the enemy team is complete ass.
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>>170365187
Timestamp or gtfo
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>>170365275
Pretty sure they said that they would make it easier to earn steel.
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>>170365296
Nerf shield bash in some way but you have to buff him to compensate. Shield bash is all he really has
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>>170365296
Fixing defensive meta will nerf conq
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>>170365286
>>170365318
Woops, I'm being shit at work right now and can't check the stream, it just sounded retarded enough to be real.
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>>170365296
make bash punishable, and give him another offensive move, or buff his other ones
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Dev stream every Tuesday at 1p EST
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>>170365296
>make headbutt cost as much stamina as a zone attack
that's a bad nerf, just stops all momentum. make it come out a slightly, tiny bit slower.

conq already getting nerfed with 200ms delay on his full block
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>>170365339
If someone is spamming an attack, you have no excuse to not be able to predict it. If they only use it once or twice and you are trying to stuff an attack that they are no longer using, congratulations... they trained you, and you have given them the win. No one's fault but yours.
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>Warlord/Conq nerfs

These """"""""nerfs"""""""" dont even matter
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Community spotlight section
Going through fanart and fan videos
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>>170365296
give conq a functional weapon and completely rework the class
he only has one fucking mechanic for attacking
it's boring to play a s and boring to play against and boring to watch
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>>170365415
He slapped the guy on the back and said stop being stingy. That doesnt mean they are going to fix it.
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>>170365363
>This faggot trying so hard to be teacher's pet
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>>170362538
This is already not a problem. Gear doesn't carry you that hard apart from revenge stacking. Gear score is just another excuse for shitters.
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>>170364216
>Server-side patch
>still not fixing memory leaks and crashes two weeks later
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>>170365480
But our headbutt is insanely OP, even when used legit without spamming it.
I want to keep it that way, as a tool that only warlords get, the fastest stagger in the game, but it needs to punish heavily if you misuse it.
Would separate the noob warlords from the proper ones.
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Are there any PC controllers that anyone can recommend for someone with smaller hands? Borrowed a 360 controller and it makes my hands ache so much after an hour of playing.
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>>170365609
Yeah, I love maces/flails but they didnt do anything cool with him. I still play him occasionally just for teh lulz
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>>170365721
Using m+kb might be better for you.
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>a vid where shugoki aoe heavy hits 3 ppl
>meanwhile LAW side heavies phase through people
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>>170365524
What are the nerfs?
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>>170365693
you are probably right about it
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>>170365884
We don't know yet.
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>>170365721
ps4 controller works natively, no 3rd party software shit, if you have windows 10
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>>170365721
What about ps4 controllers?
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>>170365958
Oh, hoped they mentioned something on the dev stream.
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>>170365721
mKB feels like the way to go if you're on PC. Keymappings alone are just so invaluable it's hard for me to go back. Your mouse can literally control all your fight options.
>Attack/parry
>GB
>Feint
>Unique stance
And I guess you can keep dodge to spacebar
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>all these 108 in a community match
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>devs only play the easy characters like pk, warlord, warden
>never play law, raider, or shugoki

I wonder why
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>>170365172
Yeah, but no one is pointing out what about PK is difficult for them to handle so I have nothing to argue on.

>fr-frame data!
I can tell you that your average PK is not capable of truly abusing that. More likely than not someone got styled on and decided that it was frame data. If PK is such an issue, learn the hero and you'll know how to handle them. The biggest reason why PKs aren't panic inducing to me is because I know what to look out for and what a good PK will try to do.
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>>170359821
assists count as elims, there's no such thing as kill stealing
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>>170365816
>>170366197
Yeah I'll give it a try with M&KB and see how I fare first before purchasing anything.

>>170365979
>>170366008
Nice to know PS4 controllers work with no 3rd party software, thanks.
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>>170366269
i did learn the hero in 5 matches

if you are incapable to understand why is she op after all the data you are given, i can only say good look being retarded, more power to you
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>40 minutes before work
>I'll get a few games of for honour in
>5 minute queues that lead into disconnect games
>Error: Game is full, returning to main menu

I just wanted to do my orders man.
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PK bug caught on livestream and the dude doesn't even notice it.
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YO THIS LAWBRINGER
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Why did they buff valk?

Was her issues only noticeable in high end duels or somthing?
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>>170366708
He's actually pretty meh. He keeps going for top heavies off GB and not taking advantage of shoves when using revenge and ad mortem off light parries.
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>>170366804
Pre-buff Valkyrie had, among other things, a 36% winrate in duels, which is abysmal.
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>>170364562

>slight delay when going into fullblock
Wow it's fucking nothing. Who unironically uses fullblock anyway? The delay was too great as it was.
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>fight a warden
>anything you do can be countered with shield bash gb
>if you guess correctly that he won't be canceling into gb you cannot punish with a throw
>if you guess incorrectly prepare to eat a heavy and come right back into the mixup
God nothing makes me more angry that scrubs who play the easiest class in the game and act like they're good.

It's even worse when they try to pretend the other classes can even compete, downright hilarious when they think someone like conq or warlord is better.

Fuck everyone who plays warden, you are scum. You're playing the top tier character with the best abilities in the game because you are literally incapable of winning without them. Just hope you know that.
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>>170367057
>he does not know
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>>170366804
>Pull off hour long combo
>Do 5% damage
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>>170367179
Whatever it was is probably useless now so I might as well not learn about it
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Does anyone know how accurate fhtracker is? Especially the fhtr score. It says I'm top 1% orochi and warlord, but somehow I doubt that.
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>>170367003
Honestly, it was probably due to most people already knowing how to play some characters, while valk was brand new for everyone not in the tech test. Theres no way valk was worse than law/raider. Nobody but loud streamers felt that way.
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>join the community event
>get the rep 9 warden each time that backrolls every shoulder setup
>team gives unblockable kensei revenge later as well
>go 0-4
well there goes my drive to play today
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>>170367167
>call them out their class is op
>"haha warden aint op scrub his considered worst hero haha xD"

I am livid
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>Be rep1 Berserker
>Elimination, against Rep8 Warden
>Clearly have upper hand, smack them around, even kill them first round one-on-one
>Next round he gets revenge and suddenly starts to ignore getting hit by you while dealing >50% damage to you each hit
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>>170367167
Try playing warden man.
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Trying to block valk attacks as a lawbringer was a nightmare before.

Not sure how i'm going to cope!
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>>170367167
Roll you dumb fag. If the guessing game is too much for you and you literally do not understand how to shut down his options on shoulder charge, roll.
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>>170367259
The 1% just refers to level IIRC
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>>170348127
from a fighting game perspective this is actually a pretty fast first pass.
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>>170347953
>having problems fighting LB

Literally how though
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>>170367167
>if you guess incorrectly prepare to eat a heavy and come right back into the mixup
you can only be shoulder bashed again after a light, and the double light doesn't do as much damage as a side heavy.
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>queue up for brawl
>matched up against warden main and warlord main
who could have guessed ?
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Daily reminder to play PK/warden and orochi only so ubisoft will fucking nerf them when they see 99% of players only play them.
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>>170367167
being bad is no excuse to call something op
get better first then try to think before posting
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>>170367321
yeah. she's definitely the hardest match-up for me now as LB, even harder than warlord and PK

I think they over-buffed her
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>>170367293
I only get revenge against PKs from the sheer amount of attacks you have to block and the constant bleed ticks.
They still get mad when you use the revenge their horribly broken character gives out if you manage to block most of their bullshit.
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>pick lawbringer
>game starts loading as a lawbringer
>suddenly, it switches to warden

WHAT THE FUCK

this has happened twice so far
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>>170367491
what do you possibly think is overpowered about orochi
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>>170364484
Wow they gave a worthless ability twice the range so it's double useless.
Unless you are near a cliff of course.
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>>170367409
I;'ve struggled against some good lawbringers simply because they're rare.

Raider's lights are also slow enough that he actually gets to block and have defense like a real boy.

>Every stunning tap feint is done with held breath, because I may get smacked in the head with that fucking poleaxe, and as raider, I respect axes.

most of them I run into are like this guy

>I was already telling myself I was going to make a clip out of it and then I fucked up the heavy parry.

>Fuck it lets put it up anyway because I like having shit to attach to my posts.
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>>170367190
compared to now :
>pull off 10sec combo
>enemy can't do shit
>~60% hp gone

if /ourboy/ aarpian can't avoid the valk combo i don't think anybody here can.
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>>170367347
It says it measures skill. Are they lying to me?
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>>170367302
I did for about 20 matches, I felt disgusted with how easily I was crushing people and stopped playing him in favor of the less broken classes. Literally vortexed someone 100-0 with just "guessing"

>>170367290
>dude you play Kensei he's broken as fuck Warden sucks

>>170367336
>I spend half my bar rolling
>he charges a shoulder bash
>it tracks me through the roll and hits
I should not have to spend 5x as much stamina as the warden to get out of his attacks.

>>170367413
>implying there are any reprecussions for just starting the mixup again from neutral

>>170367496
1v1 me right now with anyone except Warden you shitlord butthurt Warden main
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>>170367608
not him but the only thing I have a problem with against orochi is the attack that switches directions mid swing, I don't think its very fair
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>>170367491
>orochi
>in need of a nerf
All they can ever really do is top light and zone at the highest levels with the occasional guard break. Sure, they're really safe and nigh on unpunishable, but that's still not a lot of options.
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>>170367647
I'm not saying she's not overtuned but there's way more broken heroes to deal with. Also you can get out of her sweep if you're not retarded
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>>170367608
This

Only shitters have a hard time with orochi
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Oh fuck, i forgot they changed CGB.

Am i now fucked as Law even more?

As if it wasn't easy enough to CGB a law
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>>170367679
>it tracks me through the roll
So you haven't even done it once then. You can roll out even when you are against a wall, you know.
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>>170367720
how can anyone have a problem with orochi?

even if you've only got a few hours of playtime you've surely seen his entire moveset a million times and know exactly what he's going to do
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>>170367716
They can also NIGASHIMASEN to embarass their enemies.
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post good looking emblems
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>>170367679
why you heff to be mad senpai?
is only game
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>>170367679
>not interrupting the huge telegraphed -DASH- AND -SHOULDER BASH- with an attack
Do you also complain about the warden zone?
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>>170367828
If you are still charging a bash you will track moving players

If he is still charging when my roll finishes moving me then it will still hit.

End of story
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>>170367625
seeing fellow LBs play like this makes me sad, you can tell by his gear that he should have a better understanding of the character than that
>>170367751
you're no worse off than before for the most part
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>>170367880
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>>170367939
do you even play this game, what the fuck
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>>170367679
>starting up the vortex from a neutral dash
Throw out a light, it will shut them down. The only class completely safe to start up all their charges from neutral is warlord because of how fast the headbutt is.
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>>170367625
Well that's kinda the same thing as running into any good player, no matter the class. I know you said they're rare, so you don't get much experience with them, but it's still pretty much the same thing as running into a good player using berserker, or something else considered underpowered.

You're going to have trouble with them, not because of the class they're playing, but because they're good. This goes for underpowered classes.

For broken classes like warlord, chances are, you'll have problems with it because it's broken. If a good player plays warlord, it's pretty much unbeatable. But even a bad player can win without much effort using warlord, because he's so broken.
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>playing as valkyrie in duel mode
>last 3 opponents quit at 1-0 to me
>one was warlord, another was PK
Is valk considered OP now? When I use my warlord nobody ever quits.
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>>170367880
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>Shove guarantees GB
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>>170368097
It doesn't though, and it never should because that would turn lawman from worst to top tier damn fast.
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>>170367719
I assure you, i'm retarded.
I wish I could find a valk to body me until I learn to deal with her.
Just telling me won't do anything, I won't learn.
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>>170368074
Oh shit I just noticed I fucked up on the lower left.
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>>170368097
>GB into side heavy
>side heavy into GB
>GB into side heavy
>side heavy into GB
>GB into side heavy
>side heavy into GB
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>>170367835
Exactly, every single move is countered so easily.

The only thing I have a problem with is the top light, and that's only because it goes right through my fucking guard, every fucking time.
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>>170367920
If only my character had an attack that came out in 10f and essentially required the opponent to hold left block at all times, that would be great

>>170367976
Nice argument dipshit, you know you can charge bash attacks, right? They track while charging, try it for yourself.

>>170368010
You don't see a problem with Warden being the only character that forces you to attack to beat his tactics? Name one other attack in the game that cannot be dodged or broken and needs to either be rolled or attacked.
You can't, there isn't one and that's why Warden outclasses every other character by a country mile.
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>>170368168
Read the image, dumbass
>>170368179
The issue is her ridiculously fast light attacks
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>>170367751
No, its the same thing. Its actually funny to outplay people now by throwing a light instead of GB
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>>170368179
If you are on PC add me Redwolfsky.
Will body you with pleasure.
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>>170368056
she is below warden in terms of power
people will complain that LB is op
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>>170368097
that would be extreme fuckin autism and you know it
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Shove should wall stun people. Lawmen deserve their own infinite combo.
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>>170368097
even as a LB main I don't want this because he'd become PK tier brainless to play

here's what I think the balancing should be:
>able to confirm AD MORTEM off of all parries instead of just lights
>give all of LB's attacks just a bit more range
and as a general change to all characters
>everyone switches guard stances at the same pace
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>>170368097
as a LB main that would be broken

it's too easy to get a shove off a block, and as far as i know the shove after a block is guaranteed
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>>170368220
>You can't, there isn't one and that's why Warden outclasses every other character by a country mile.

I wish you had said that first so I wouldn't have tried to reason with you.
Please do so from now on.
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>>170368384
>not feinting that heavy because it was obvious he will use it
only blaime yourself
>>
>Give the raider a free top heavy attack after gb
>Make his jump light useable in all directions not just top/
>Double his change guard speed

Fixed.
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>>170368220
Shugoki, Warlord, Valkyre, and Nobushi all have a vortex. The Shugoki and Warlord vortexes are of the same quality as the wardens, and the warlord vortex can't even be rolled out of.
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>>170368415
I agree with this too, in addition to
>>170368456

I think these changes would make LB strong but not OP
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>>170367939
valk can do the same, I don't see you complaining about it.
You know you can't cancel into GB a charged bash right?
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>>170368238
I considered it, and it was a fucking terrible idea.
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>>170368513
>kensei player that is also good
>it's obvious he was going to be a wasteman!!
stop anytime
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>>170368384
>>170368202
You are right though, not sure why i posted but it would be hilariously salt inducing.


When you do it it looks like you are spinning in circles. Not sure how much you can do it before you run out of stamina
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>people complain about wardens "vortex spam" when literally all you have to do to counter it is dash backwards or learn how to guardbreak the most predictable move after shugokis hug
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>>170368516
no

>>170368525
>valks vortex
its dodgeable
>nobushi vortex
what?
>shugoki vortexh
what?
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>>170368516
>free top heavy after wall stun
>Speed guard switch a bit
>Make sprint grab usable in Guard Mode, something like headbutt or shield bash

You ll make him OP, he has strongest heavy in game.
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Since AFK farming is on its way out, what's the most efficient method for doing it before I get my warning?
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>>170368456
>ad mortem from all parries
Feels too strong imo. I already destroy assasin classes by parry into top. i think its better for make way to connect, will allow some really nice moves. Also, he desperately needs to connect at least half of his comboes
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>>170368384
>that WPM

LBs confirmed retards
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>>170368525
>Nobushi vortex
'Scuse me?
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>>170367920
>Not complaining about an attack that comes out near instantly and shows two hit indicators
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>>170368456
>able to confirm AD MORTEM off of all parries instead of just lights
aren't most parries lights anyway? There aren't many heavies being thrown most of the time, and the few lefts have a good chance of being feints.

I agree with the rest.
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>>170368489
I'm glad you agree that one character shouldn't have every tool in the game.

>>170368525
Let's hear those vortexes, I'll tell you why they're not real.

>>170368617
Conq can also track while charging his bash, but the entire point being you don't need to roll to beat either of those bashes, a simple dodge will give you a punish.
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>>170368698
>mfw gb instead of the 3rd headbutt is guaranteed with 99% of retards
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>>170368708
If the valk is leading into it with a combo the vortex is not dodgable
>shugga vortex
Oh you haven't seen the bullshit they can pull with their unlocked charge have you? It's an even more damaging vortex than Warden's.
>nobushi vortex
Heavy, kick or kick feint into gb into heavy.
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>>170368525
since we are using this term so loosely and so often, i motion we switch to "vortices" when pluralizing so we can really be silly

"these shugoki vortices are just driving me crazy"

for example
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>>170358571
>for good players
>rewards 100 steel
I just had the whole match turn into the teams giving it to eachother and never went back to the game mode once finished with orders
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>>170368803
when i used to rp on habbo hotel i had a wpm of 160 :^)
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Full list that will fix lawbringer

Hyper armor on heavies
Shove combos into a weaker light similar to warlord's
Standardize guard change speed including penalties
Increase his range on attacks
Side heavy off long arm
Increase the speed of his feint. Currently it will only feint mid swing and some classes can feint fast enough to light attack in another direction before law finishes his feint
Stop people from being able to GB him out of his heavy startup frames. Some classes can feint then GB law right out of his heavy if he doesn't even try to feint it.

That's it. That's how you fix lawbbringer.
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What about hyper armor during combos?
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lewdkeeper can you give me your discord? I want to add you.
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>>170368761
Join dominion vs AI matchmaking on. Hold your right analog stick to the right and never get kicked. If you are on pc you can hold your right analog stick to the right and alt tab in windowed mode. The window becomes inactive but you character keeps spinning.
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>>170368525
>warlord vortex
>the one where he does 1/8th of a bar of damage every attack
>the one where a simple dodge stops it

now compare the wardens
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>>170368860
The indicators aren't specifically related to the warden class. Personally I love it when a warden throws a zone because most of the time I can block it and punish it.
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>>170369005
No, that is how you break the game.
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>>170369068
Why?
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>>170368097
That would instantly move LB from shit to absolute cancer.

The only way that would be even remotely fair is if you segregated the shove so that only the shove from neutral has the confirm and the shoves from heavy attack or on block don't get confirms.

T. Rep 6 Law
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>>170368313
I just did i'm ModuloPlus.
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>>170369158
>making lawbringer viable breaks the game

Explain your reasoning.Which thing exactly is an issue?
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>>170368918
valks vortex is only undodgeable if comboed into, meaning whipp/hit attacks, so counterable

shugis cheese is countered by walking into him or not letting him sprint into one direction

nobushis vortex is not a vortex
if you dodge the kick its a free gb
if you dont and she attacks instead of using kick its a free parry/back to neutral
also kick is slow, can dodge it on reaction 90%
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So is Dominion VS AI with matchmaking turned off the most efficient way to AFK farm?

Are there any quicker ways? I don't wanna be 'that guy' who fucks over PvP, but I also don't want to go into gear modes with a rep 0, GS 10 Kensei.

My main is a rep 3 LB and I don't wanna grind again, I just want to get my Kensei built asap and AFK farming AI this way seems like a victimless crime.
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>>170369068
is everyone countering every gb now?

i don't care about valkyrie. but if gb's are shot now i am fucked and this game is fucked.
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>>170351047
>>170351029
yes
and its good
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What tool can we give Zerker to better open up the turtliest of the turtles? After a while feints just don't cut it.
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>>170369267
It would him OP and not true to his playstyle. All he needs is a faster block switch. Lawbringers isn't as underpowered as he seems. He is labeled as hard to handle for a reason.
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All I ask as a Lawbringer main is for guard switch to be standardized and that I get at least one hyperarmor attack so I may actually get to do a combo sometime.

Shugoki gets hyperarmor as well as lights that can continue chains even after being blocked.
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>>170368758
no he doesn't, zerker holds that title.
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>>170369290
you can still side step valks sweep after 2nd hit in her combo.
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>>170369552
He's hard to use because he is underpowered
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>music change on VS screen
what
>electric guitar
WHAT
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>>170369389
A special button to make your character shout.
RAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDEERRRRR
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>>170369621
only if your an assassin
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>>170369219

Also Rep 6 Law here. Yeah, I mostly want to see shove into walls induce wallstun and make parry guarantee a heavy.
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>>170369675
they got rid of the placeholder war drums
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>>170369319
Dominion vs AI with matchmaking on. Try to find a group of 2 people already afking (almost every dominion vs AI) lose in about 4mins get 32steel and 1k exp a match. Ends up being roughly prestige every 8hours and 4k steel.
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>>170369290
How do you gb the kick? It always gets interrupted by the follow up hit. I always do a light to garuntee damage.
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>>170369771
i've done it as kensei before
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>>170369319
It's probably the safest way to go about doing it. Of course, you'd have to manually select your character every time before you can start a match, so you still have to be present/checking in every now and then/ask someone to do it for you.
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>Matchmaking still doesn't allow you to select your character then mode beforehand
>If you have a Rep 6 and want to learn a character you know nothing about from level 1, you are put with people who are masters at their characters.

I'm not asking to be put in with beginners since I understand that high rep players will know gameplay basics better than new players, but if I know nothing at all about a character I have at level 1, at least cut my matchmaking down a couple reps or something.
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>>170369141
That's not even it, it's based around the face that you have to predict hit charge rather than react to it so if he dodges and you dodge he gets a gb and if you don't he gets free damage while you lose stamina
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>>170369771
>>170369858
I've done it as conq
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>>170369190
>enter duel

>PK, Warlard, and Valk forever
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>>170369552
>He is labeled as hard to handle for a reason.
who else falls under hard?
>valk
>nubushi
lel
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>>170369552
What exactly would make himm OP. I didn't not say anything that adds or edits any moves he has. He is extremely underpowered. He has no damage confirmation. He entirely relies on parries because shoves do not combo into anything and he is slow enough to be parried by a 90 year old.

He is labed as hard to handle because he is hard to do anyting with. The only reason anyone would ever lose to a lawbringer is because they fuck up a parry or a GB. There is no reason you should ever lose to lawbringer since he doesn't get confirmation damage and shoves go into nothing.

t. rep 10 lawbringer main that has been advocating the same buffs to law since release.

I reiterate, what specifically out of what I said would make lawbringer OP and not on par with other characters? What scenario would allow me to be OP?

The only thing I can think of from what i said would be:
Long arm > Heavy > Shove > light dealing a total of 40 damage if it uses the reduced damage light similar to warlords
or
Parry > GB > Heavy > Shove > Light dealing once again, 40 damage
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>>170369868
my favorite meme is you think theres any matchmaking in this game. Its all random.
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>iskys hopping on the raider train

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
RADIER IS MY CLASS
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Raider and Lawbringer are birds of a feather.
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>>170370201

Nah Raider players don't bitch and moan about every little thing and not being able to be the best at everything like LB players.
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How's the faction war going?
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>>170370031
Sorry, second sentence my brain short circuited. I did not say anything that adds or edits to any move he has that would be OP or not preventable or not on par with the risk of the move.

Long arm can be dodged by a single side step and gives them a free GB off of it. And due to you not moving anywhere, there is no chance they won't be able to GB you unlike if a conq shoulder bashes too far, shugo charges too far, warden charges too far, or raider runs right pas you.
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>>170370323
Meaningless as always
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>>170370031
Agreed. All LB needs is a way to attack and to confirm at least some of his comboes, thats it.
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>>170370387
I find it entertaining, I want to see what happens when you get to the capital of another faction
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>>170370031
Not to mention you can dodge the shove unless it's a block shove
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>>170370303
>wah wah LB's bitch too much
yet here you are bitching about LB players in every single thread for the past week, fuck off already
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>>170370387

>mfw the season endings sync up with DLC character releases
>mfw the winning faction for each season gets a free DLC hero, 10,000 steel and 10 premium crates
>mfw each DLC hero is 25,000 steel otherwise
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Something that limits others to within ±1 rep of your chosen character would be great.

Or alternatively something to disable gear stats in 4v4.
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>>170370496
The samurai have done that twice to the knights, nothing happens
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Former Shugoki player here. Its hilarious watching him go up in blood pressure. But seriously, we can't let him get control of the Unblockable Swing exploit.
>>
new thread where
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>>170370602
>main a character to rep 10 and get really good at the game
>start a new character and only get matched against new players that just started

???
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>tab in to my AFK farming
>There is an Orochi defending me from the bots

Heh.
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>>170370569

Nice facebook image retarded nigger
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Seeking good Viking player on PS4. I'm awful at fighting their classes and need to improve.
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>>170370614
Shit, I thought there would be some kind of defensive event. Oh well, guess I'll finish the story mode and get bored to hell in the mp
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>>170370712
Happened to me after I finished with my rep 6 main, I think it just takes who you're playing more often (the new champ)?
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>>170368918
Vortex doesnt mean unblocable dude
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>>170370594
>a special crate with a random one-time paint/pattern
Thats what i want to see
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>>170370602
>>170370712
A better suggestion would be to have a system that takes the level of all of your characters together as a baseline limit, then limit it further to the level of your currently selected character. If you can't find people to play with, it will expand the level confines around your currently selected character.
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Welp i've done it /fh/
I'm a pk main now.
Got fed up with the non stop pk and roachs in brawl so only way to beat 'em is join 'em
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>>170370813
I'm as disappointed as you are
>>
I just want a Lovecraft-style mood effect.
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>>170370865
Until you remember that you can't search around characters because you pick your character after the game has been found so there is no way they can balance around that and have to use the level of all of your characters together.
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>>170370594
>mfw the winning faction for each season gets a free DLC hero, 10,000 steel and 10 premium crates
lets be real here its going 3k steel and 3 boxes for first and then lowers depending on your rank. buy our steel with real money goy
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I like how they literally implied the centurions where the precursors of the knights
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>>170370728
He's right though.

You can go fuck right off.
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>>170370945
It's a wonderful, salt filled life to live.

t. Rep 6 PK main
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>>170370957
sunbeam is unironically more Lovecraftian than anything you're thinking of
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>>170370945
As a zerk main. She's pretty fun basically a better zerk but more predictable.
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>>170370728
keep it coming baby back bitch boy
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>>170370957
We already have a lovecraftian wep for LB, and some ornaments are coming in so maybe?
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>>170371105

Eyes and fangs and a swirling mist...or sunlight?
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>>170370957
Like? Tentacles coming from the ground and penetrate your hero ?
>>
I WANT CENTURION NOW!
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>>170371180

Read a book nigger
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>>170371186
you dont know what you want
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>>170371235

Any suggestions?
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>>170371320
Count of Monte Cristo
>>
is the new thread coming or are you retards just going to let this one die
>>
>>170371180

Lovecraft isn't all about edgy eyes and stuff, it's usually about more ugly and weird slimy shit.

But at it's core, Lovecraftian stuff is mostly about things happening beyond the scope or understanding of man. A sunbeam that shouldn't, and couldn't be there that is suddenly there for no good reason could fit with his themes.

Eyes and fangs and stuff seems to fall more along classic horror and less eerieness.

Lovecraft is hard to capture really. Bloodborne is the only game I've seen come close with how it handles things that drive a man insane just by knowing them and creatures all around us that we can't see on our plane.
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>>170371117
>not joining a 3/4 party afking
get on my steel/exp per hour
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>>170371403
YOU CAN MAKE IT YOURSELF FAGGOT

STOP ASKING PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING YOU WON'T OUT OF LAZINESS
>>
>>170371394
My brethen. Shit's good.
>>
>>170371431

A lot of his themes seem to involve water. The deep sea being one of the representations of the unknown.
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN?
NEW THREAD WHEN?
NEW THREAD WHEN?
>>
>>170371523

Do you get more for more human players in your game?

This one had 4 humans and 4 bots and I got 329 xp and 32 steel. Is there a better way to be doing this?

Also I have no friends. :(
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>>170371320
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath

ISBN-10: 0345384210 if you want a collection of most of the dream cycle stories

some collected edition of Horacio Quiroga's stories
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>>170371563
I need to get the first post therefore I can't make it
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>>170371431
there is some room for classic horror as a side effect of the unexplainable horror
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This general is retarded...

and no I wont make it because I don't care enough
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>>170351534
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>>170369336
yep, gb get countered almost always now. it fucking sucks.
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>>170371646
Make it then post with your phone
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I want to make a new thread but I'm scared someone else will and we dubble post a thread.
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>tab back into AFK farm
>one lawman trying to hold off the swarm of bots while the other 3 of us AFK

What a stalwart man.
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>>170371646
What the fuck are you talking about? Select the OP and copy it.
It's so trivially easy I'm not even sure why we're having this discussion
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>tfw heal on block
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>>170371943
this is honestly the only thing about conq that's actually broken, save for the infinite he gets while revenge is up
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>>170371787
WELL

that could be it. and i was finally at a point where i was countering 90% of them or maybe better. it was something to separate the wheat from the chaff and now it is gone. zero reason now to not just play whichever character is overpowered in any given patch until the game dies.

fucking scumbag idiots on reddit probably caused this.
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Guard break, one of the only reliable ways to counter a turtle is mind numbling easy to counter now.

Unless they add in an unparryable attack (since the Shugoki bug is getting fixed), there will be no good reason at all to ever go offensive.
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>>170349191
>this subreddit
New guy spotted
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>>170371758
You can say that again. People here are so stupid it's just fun to watch sometimes
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>>170371180
Have you even read any of Lovecraft's works or are you just spouting "lol cthulu tentacles?"
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>>170371896

I did this earlier as a Lawman while trying to farm soldiers for an order.
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>>170371821
just do it
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>>170372004
yep, been playing horribly today as every goddamn gb was countered by anyone.
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>>170371617
matches end in 5minutes max and you get the same experience. Players can make the games go from 5mins up to 30minutes at time so its better to try to queue a few times til u find atleast 2 people afking.
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>>170366515
I understand what makes her formidable. But she just isn't broken.
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>>170371821
do it
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>>170367880
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>>170372006
There needs to be a way to generate untechable GBs while on the offensive.
Someone suggested getting it off bashes but people seem to hate that.
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>>170372048

I read Shadow over Innsmouth. Otherwise, yeah, just "lol cthulu tentacles". I guess I'm just desperate for something more interesting than fire wings, cherry blossoms, lightning, sunlight, and darkness.
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>>170372004

Yeah they did.

They pulled out the typical Reddit science and made posts like, 'Why GB is impossible to counter, with numbers to back it up' and shit to justify why they suck dick at this game.

And of course, they were listened to.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease, eh?
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>>170372006
the game is a triangle of attack/dodge/guardbreak currently, which is fine

what isn't fine is when pushes like conq/warlord erase two of those
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>>170368097
at most it should give you a light
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>>170372138
>3 long tail feathers to look like a phoenix
nice job anon
>>
Is there any good porn yet?
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>>170372163

Yeah it's bullshit that defensive players get all these tools at their disposal AND can get untechable GBs, which are supposed to be for opening up a defense.
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>>170372321
>>170372321

New thread desu
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>>170372006
Turtle classes should have less ease gbcing. There, fixed.
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>>170372309

http://rule34-data-009.paheal.net/_images/c75e5cdbfb837e2d8bcbdd9fd9678d8f/2120201%20-%20For_Honor%20Peacekeeper%20Warlord%20raider%20razyda777.png

Click at your own risk.
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>>170372006
>>170372163
you should think of it the other way around. Instead of seeing it as "offensive players need untechable GBs" just make it so that defense characters have fewer instances where they're allowed to tech. No tech on fullblock stance would be a perfect balancing mechanism against turtles.
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>>170372553
me on the left
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>>170369034

Don't do this because I actually record and report people like that ^^
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Okay, real question - what would you think of a gear type that instead of modifying your stats, negates the stats of the equivalent item slot on whoever you're fighting? So with a full load you can 1v1 someone in dominion and it'll resolve like in duel with no stat mods.
>>
Has anyone ever seen the kensei bug they're fixing?
>>
Anyone on mouse + KB having trouble with their guard? It feels extremely inconsistent switching at random times or refusing to switch at others. For example with Warden on controller I have no issue to go top light into vortex into side lights, but on PC the lights often remain on top after the push so I cant continue the vortex.
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>>170375404

Yup. As a warden main it's frustrated me so greatly that I'm considering buying an Xbox elite controller.
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>>170351534
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>>170369013
If you're still here.

[PC] Lewdkeeper#4918
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