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/ss13g/ - Spessmen on a Spess Station

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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>Beats me, read the last fucking thread faggots

>What is Space Station 13?
[YouTube] Space Station 13 (embed)
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc (embed)

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa (embed)

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
[YouTube] How to download BYOND (embed)

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz (embed)
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First for taking adderall and playing spessmen all night
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I've manaaged to gather a bunch of information from the pupper discord over time, this is my final log of it all.

I'll be making a ban request shortly, expect sawbones deadminned and a lot of people banned, here is a peak.

http://pastebin.com/qcRrDVUz
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>>170306653
ok
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4th for update when
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To anyone considering playing SS13:

>>>>>>>> DON'T <<<<<<<<

Here's why:

1. We're closed to newfags
2. We're extremely xenophobic
3. We are an homogeneous elite ss13 society.
4. We hate all of your degeneracy: animeposting, catposting, redditposting, tripfaggotry, etc.
5. You'll never be able to integrate into a society of elite ss13 players when you're a redditor or a forumbabby
6. Your race (redditors and forumbabbies) has lower IQ than ours.
7. You don't know our board culture and memes, and will be seen as barbarians for that.
8. We are extremely skilled players and you won't be able to compete or cooperate with us.
9. All our game knowledge and technology is for our people and our people only.
10. We don't want to ruin ourselves with your degenerate ways.


Thank you for your time. Have a good day.
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>>170306472
>[YouTube] Space Station 13 (embed)
>http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc (embed)
>[YouTube] How to download BYOND (embed)
>http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz (embed)

Kill yourself and your family and burn your house down OP
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>>170307004
lol no, /vg/ is open to all players except fur
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Post songs you want on the hour of your death in-game as you are publicly executed.
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how much goddamn milk does it take to fix bones i drank so fuckin much
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do you guys still hate me or can i get a shot at redemption
~t. plap
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/tg/station here

take your trash lighting back, thanks
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>>170308482
You're underage.
Fuck off.
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>>170308482
No you're also going to be repobanned if you aren't yet
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>>170308426
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>>170308538
You're going to have to be more specific we send a lot of trash your way.
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>>170308564
what does being underage have to do with anything
no seriously
do you people automatically connect being underage with being naive?
if so that's pretty fuckin stupid
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>>170308661
>server based from an 18+ website
>allowing underage
???
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>>170308661
Are you serious?
https://www.4chan.org/rules
>1. You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.
>2. You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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wtf i love tg now

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Syndicate_Items#Nuclear_Strike_Team
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>>170308993
>>170308959
im talking about the server itself, dumdums
last i checked there isn't a "no underage" rule
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>>170308661
You are literally breaking the rules of 4chan by posting here
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>>170309113
>>server based from an 18+ website
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>>170309108
TG has always had better antags
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>>170308147
vox are furries (anthropomorphic animals)
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>>170309113
See
>server based from an 18+ website
Plus, check the banpage. There've been at least 3 underageb&s.
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>>170309113
>can't even post on the website the server is made for without breaking rules
>why am I banned???
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>>170309454
>>170309323
>SERVER BASED ON AN 18+ WEBSITE
>SERVER ITSELF NOT 18+
???????????
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>>170309509
If they're competent, then I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to play
There are plenty of people under 18 who are more mature than the average adult
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>>170309487
would it be better if i took this to irc? because i'll take it to irc if you guys are that much of a stickler for rules
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>>170309573
>lmao im mature for my age *tibs mini-fedora*
Fuck off underage.
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>>170309509
that's literally wrong though
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>>170309357
That's because you cant change any of our antags without triggering a pile of autists
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>>170309113
Okay fine, there are degrees, how old are you actually? 14?
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>>170309821
14 is correct
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>>170309369
Vox are not an anthropomorphic version of an animal, they're not even birds
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>>170309884
Seriously you are a 14 plapatin?
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>>170309108
>firing pins
>syndicate firing pins
pathetic
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>>170309995
yes
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>>170309627
I am 19 years old.
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>>170310075
reported for being underage
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>>170309963
There are many fictional anthropomorphic creatures that people consider to be furries, such as sergals
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>>170310193
>sergals
blatant
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>>170310193
So bipedal aliens that don't resemble humans(skeletons,plasmemes) are now furries?
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>>170309963
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>>170310429
It would take almost no time on e621 to find furry porn without snouts or inhuman facial structures.
Keep telling yourself you're not a furry though, N3X, let's see how that goes
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>>170310382
No, because people seem to care deeply about whether or not the species has a snout-like face.
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>>170310621
You do realize that e621 does allow non-furry shit, right?
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>>170310715
I'd gladly link you some examples of what I'm saying but I don't really think /ss13g/ needs any more derailing.
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>>170310901
Eh, it's fine. It'll naturally get back on track when the current round ends and people post greentext stories
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>>170310715
get back to work, codecuck.
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>>170310715
Of course Nexis is the one to butt in with this
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>>170308161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWBs-b7Rx6s
I want to be allowed to do one more strip dance in my cuffs before they put me through the guillotine.
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contribute to the wiki
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>>170311975
no
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>Metacomms with someone to make fun of them.

What did he mean by this
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Bravo Isaac, Warden, Security. 10/10 best round as traitor
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>>170312416
what the fuck even happend once we got in brig. That entire round was just all unexpected shit. I didnt even know you were traitor until after i kidnapped you.
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>Captain lets me crash in his office
>Turn it into a bar and end up partying with him
>Centcomm never did send our food order.
>Let me borrow his hardsuit when EVA was needed

10/10 Cap, would follow orders of.
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>>170312416
You don't have to RP in the thread you know
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I feel like best thing to do as double agent is just stay fucking alive, because your target will probably try to kill his target and he will get fucked up 90% of the time.


or of course you can just ride around in battle wheelchair because who the fuck cares about greentext meme
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>>170312545
>not rping in the thread
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>>170312528

I thought I was your target and that I was fucked. Why did you kidnap me to begin with, just for fun?

Also I'm telling you we should have fucking singuloosed.
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>>170312542
ss13 for smartphones?
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>>170312416
>>170312528
>>170312739
>when two traitors meet up and do stuff

these always make for good rounds.
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Conveyor belts not being destroyed when moving on cargo shuttle when?
Minebots automatically going from ore to box no matter the distance when?
Automatic item grabbing/inserting into machinery when?
Automatic shuttle moving when?
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>>170312945
How are conveyor belts being destroyed when moving the cargo shuttle?
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>>170312739
singuloosing is gey and honestly i was just torturing you for fun. I was to just kill you after a few minutes after asking nonsensical questions until you awnsered them right. When i found out you were traitor i let you go
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>>170312945
>Conveyor belts not being destroyed when moving on cargo shuttle when?
I saw it work on meta the other day.
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>>170312945


>>170313034
Meta has conveyors mapped onto it.
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>>170313225
It was that easy guessing that I had just bought Factorio?
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why does probe think he's a coder?
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>>170313463
Because he's been friends with a few coders so long that he just thinks he's one of them.
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>>170313463
It's embarrassing isn't it?
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>>170312804

Doing stuff unfortunately was us getting caught trying to kill Isaacs target, or more specifically, grab his already dead body and make sure it couldn't be cloned. Sec caught us both at the scene and dragged us to interrogation.

They didnt seem to realize we were wearing voice changers but they did notice the 4 ID cards in my backpack.

I TOLD YOU WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THEM
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>WERE NOT FURRIE
>it sezz there aliens dumbo how is that furrey???

just need to round it off with "birds don't have fur" and "non antag vox when" and we'll have literally every vox-related argument ever
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>>170313293
>inserting
gave yourself away instantly

Remember SaMMIs?
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>>170314275
non antag sammis when
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>>170314124
there is literally nothing wrong with furries
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>>170314275
no I don't
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>>170314124
Vox are lizards
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>antag for like 4th round in a row
>don't kill anyone because it's against your character
>die from some other murderbone antag
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>>170314769
ooh wow yeah that changes fuckin' everything
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>>170314769
No one has authority over the term "furry", but defining anthropomorphic animals as furries is an extremely common and widely accepted usage on the internet.
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>>170314901
>tfw you're too much of a nice guy to murderbone
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>>170314473
Yes actually, there is, it's a problem inherent in all the weird groups in the world: to outsiders, it's weird, and therefore people in the group probably shouldn't spread it all over the place.
Like 4chan. 4chan is a weird group.
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Why is our jew race so bad? We should have just copied ferengi and given them a different name and appearance. Cunning and clever space jews > stupid space gypsies.
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>>170314663
What if we added inserters from Factorio, and let ghost players control them?
Answer: >>170314369
Hilarity.
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>>170315641
He probably meant furries as in "anthropomorphic animals", not furries as in "people who like anthropomorphic animals", seeing as we were talking about the Vox.
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>>170315694
>REFERENCES

ISHYGDDT
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>>170315694
but muh peenis
muh vogs wifeys
etc.
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>>170315805
In that case, yeah. Vox are anthropomorphic animals and furries can potentially get off to them. This isn't inherently a bad thing, but it might soil some people's view on it because it is kinda weird.
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>>170315826
I meant how they act. We have dumbass gypsy space birds taking up our stereotypical greedy race instead of something better.
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>>170316108
What if instead of Vox being stupid dumb birds, they were wise, peaceful, slow, and instead of being retarded with english (ME WANT GO TO THE SDORE) they spoke in tongues and riddles and passages
It'll never happen, but still
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>>170316282
It's impossible to get people to roleplay above their intelligence level, only below it.
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>>170315143
>>170315475
I didn't say that didn't make them furries, you mongloids
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>>170316108
but it's like mad super qt & shit like that bro come on
I literally and figuratively cream my mom-jeans when a bird with a 30 character nonsense name does a big silly string of adverbs near me
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HOLOGRAPHIC CREW MEMBERS WHEN
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>>170316675
when you meme it
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>plapatin now banned from the server, forum, github, discord, coding discord, and IRC

Jesus christ
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>>170316675
When you touch the AIs holopad I guess.
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>>170316675
That'd be sweet. After a while, they could start diminishing over time or when they get hurt, and it would take a really really long time on the holodeck to regenerate. That means that they'd be able to do cool holodeck games and shit while they wait.
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We all must work together to resist shitcurity.
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>>170316943
Should be banned from /vg/ now too
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>>170317058
Only if you report him
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>>170317239
>implying I didn't
if janitors won't ban a person admitting they're underage what the fuck will they ban a person for
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>>170316943
I-I wonder what he did
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>>170317371
Its questionable whether /vg/ has ANY moderation.
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>>170317485
I mean if you post porn janitors will eventually show up.

It took weeks of spamming beastiality porn for them to kill /kspg/ for good. It had to go that far.
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>>170317708
>It took weeks of spamming beastiality porn for them to kill /kspg/ for good. It had to go that far.
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WHAT IS THIS
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>>170318641
That wraith in the middles spooky.
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>>170318668
booty borgs look bad
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>>170318641
WINDOWS SNIP
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>>170316675
when you are RD and make a custom lawset for a willing AI
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>>170318817
is windows snip bad? i've been using it to capture ss13 moments
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>>170318756
>implying we have quality control on borg sprites
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>>170317485
i've got a week ban once for talking /pol/ here
I have since learned to pepper my fashy shitposts with ss13 references so they are always on topic
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>>170319069
>tfw got banned from /vg/ for ironic blogposting
:^(
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>>170319069
>mods actually do hand out bans for irrelevant shitposting
I'm amazed
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>>170319129
>"ironic"
fuck off bill.
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>>170319069
race differences in IQ exist
the reason why vox commit more crime is genetics
vox twin adoption studies confirm their IQs are a full standard deviation lower than humans, even when controlling for enviorment

now stop being a cuck and vote for Nick Weller as captain so he can send those vox packing, and build a wall in arrivals
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>>170319368
wow calm down there, i'm just watching the simpsons in bed...
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post people getting gibbed
bonus points for clowns or greys
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>>170318756
no they dont
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>>170319401
>it's another wall gimmick
>it's another person spouting annoying orange quotes in an attempt to be hip
>it's another gimmick where if i don't pretend i'm a know-nothing wannabe stormfag, i end up in perma

Shitty gimmicks are the reason I carry chloral with me wherever I go.
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>>170319508
OSHA won't believe what happened next!
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>>170319508
What's wrong with greys?
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>>170319892
sorry, meant assistants
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>>170319642
hi kolith
nobody acts like that in-game, kolith
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>>170319508
>someone posts an image with you in it
>don't even notice because you don't play that static much
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>>170320578
>someone posts your autism engineering on the ss13 subreddit
>it reaches number one
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>tfw you will live in a time where Probe's eyes go bad
>shitters will be able to get off being banned by subtly misspelling things in their ahelps to confuse ol' Probe
>Probe will need a young fresh admin that has to proofread all of his bwoink and replies to make sure he doesn't mess up
>the rest of the admin team will eventually have to put him down, even though Probe's heart wouldn't bear it
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>>170319982
>everyone who doesn't conform to my view of what /vg/ should be is le ebil kolith boogeyman
nice fallacy
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ok i never got around to because i was sick but last week marik curie made a shitty fucking kudzo as traitor botanist and it pissed me off.

YOUR KUDZO WAS WEAK, MARIK

WEAK
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>>170319642
>you will never be this mad about losing
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Why...I know this isn't really spessman related but it just antogonizes me.
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>>170320919
u just have autism friend its ok
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>>170320919
could've sworn a few months back seeing Niggles posting Grey's that he modded into his game, back when it was flavor of the month.

is this Niggles work?
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>30 pop
>only member of security is a detective
>only head is the HoP
>it's nuke ops

Why? Why doesn't Nuke Ops, Rev, and Cult require a certain amount of staff to be security or command to be played? C*ders, do you job.
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>>170320919
Reminder that greys will never be an interesting race because their mystery and creepiness cannot be captures in sprite art and a widely playable race, and there will never be an abduction antagonist event.
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>>170321381
>only member of security is a detective
you forgot about the chef who didn't know any space law who the HoP made a sec officer
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>>170310715
>>170321381
get to work, codecuckslave
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who got the detective?
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>>170321381
Yeah call them c*ders, that'll convince em
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>>170320831
Nice weak deflection
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>>170321512
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>>170321381
Word, brother. Nuke-Ops should only happen when there's a full team of sec AND at least a full team of roundstart silicons. Why stop there? Every doctor should get chloral, every scientist should get guns, every assistant gets glubs, and the clown has three spray bottles of lube at the very start of the Nuke-Ops round.

It should also be announced the moment everyone spawns in, too.
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Rank the antags/roundtypes.
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>>170321558
1 corticol borer
2 pee pee poo poo
3all elese
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>>170321558
worst: any rountype that either results in a 4 hour shitter safari or any roundtype in which the heads immediately call the shuttle as soon as adversity rears its head
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Why is the first retractor step in chest surgery talking about opening the ribcage and rearranging organs when you haven't even cut the rib cage in the first place?
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>>170321558
nations > syndicate > cult > ling > asteroids > extended > nuke ops > wizard > malf > anything else I'm forgetting > monkeys >>>> rev
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>>170321558
As an Antagonist:

>Abduction, PORT WHEN?
>Wizard
>Changeling + Traitor
>Changeling
>Ops
>Traitor
>Vamp
>power gap
>cult

as a player and judging based on round length/fun

>ABDUCTION
>Changeling
>Traitor
>Ops
>Vamp
>Cult
>Wizard(unless they have a fun gimmick, at which point it shoots to #1)
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>>170321697
xenos worse than extended?
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>>170321558
cult, raiders, blob, revsquad and wiztended suck fucking gorilla dick and need work.
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>>170321749
I feel like blob might be more fun if it was "liquidlike" (i.e. seeping through vents and pipes n shit, instead of penetrating straight through walls)
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>>170321726
>cult at bottom of both

A fellow patrician I see
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>>170321686
ye olde ancient tg cœde
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>>170321381
Because we've been waiting for years for someone to figure out what the hell antag datums is and how you could possibly implement it. At the moment, I also think gamemode rolling happens BEFORE job rolling so that would have to change. I don't think I agree entirely that nuke ops should be dependent on a sec force, but perhaps it should try to let someone in charge grab the disk. Either way, it's not happening until you do it or until someone has a eureka moment about antag datums and brings us all into a golden age
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>>170321697
I must be the only one that likes rev. THAT BEING SAID, rarely is there ever a rev round where revs can work together, and usually it just ends up being a validz shitstorm.
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>>170321821
How the fuck would that work, honestly
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>>170321821
it would be more fun if deity had never touched it.
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>>170321916
maybe instead of bursting through walls, blobs can send seedlings which can move through pipes and vents for a short period of time before seeding a new blob cluster
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>>170321558
Blob is still my favorite even though it's unbalanced as FUCK

It's really fun to get all the crew working toward a united goal even though the blob itself needs a serious nerf to resource blobs, it's fucking ridiculous how much resource you get per resource blob
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>>170320696
jesus i'm myopic not dying
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>>170321749
>revsquad
>get insulated gloves

>vox raiders
>steal 1 emitter
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>>170321381
Because 25 of the 30 players readied up and it let the game randomly pick from all types.
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>>170321408
Greys aren't creepy, they just eat bugs and screech autistically in medbay and the kitchen.
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pAI Update..
Soon.
http://imgur.com/a/Bdd5I
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>>170322034
>still salty after last birb raid

IT WAS 4 EMITTERS YOU FOOL
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>>170322067
That's my point. Real greys, as far as there are real greys, are supposed to be creepy and mysterious.
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>>170322150
>/red
>not span class warning or danger

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>170321558
As an observer:
>Blob
>Ops
>Cult
>Ragin' Mages
>Malf
>Wizard
>Extended because then I get to shitter safari
>Autotator
>Tatorling
>Ling
>Rev
>Vamp

As a non-antag player (I like the medbay and I like the misery):
>Autotator
>Tatorling
>Ling
>Ragin' Mages
>Blob
>Ops
>Malf
>Cult
>Wiz
>Vamp
>Rev
>Extended

As an antag player:
>Blob
>Cult
>Traitor
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>>170322150
>october 9 2013

K senpai.
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>>170322150
What the hell does emagging the pAI do besides 'freeing' it?
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>>170322150
>sec is blue
>med is red
DELETE THIS
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>>170322493
>>170322287
It's so old that wirejack is still called doorjack
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>>170322657
OKAY. You caught me. They are old screenshots. I re-picked up the project on a whim. sue me.
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>>170322757
THE FIRST THING YOU BETTER DO IS SWITCH THE MED AND SEC COLORS OR I'M FUCKING GONNA GET REAL MAD AT YOU AND GIVE YOU THUMBS DOWNS ON THE EVENTUAL PR JUST YOU WAIT BUCKO
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boring.
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How the fuck does this server run so fast and have virtually no lag compared to other servers?
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>>170323908
shhhhh
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>>170323908
/vg/'s special sauce
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>>170323908
>/vg/
>no lag
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>>170323908
clusterfack optimized the shit out of the server ruthlessly starting a few years back. its actually laggier than it used to be thanks to /vg/lights
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>>170324226
It actually has gotten significantly laggier since ~2 months ago
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>>170324119
Go play /tg/station and tell me this server lags.
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unban 2hotdogs
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>>170323908

We have transcended byond mortal understanding of code bloat.
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How fun is minin? Thinking bout switching departments
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unban he
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>>170324335
Yeah that's our memory leak issue which I merged a hotfix for earlier tonight. Less leaks, lights are running more efficiently, less lag, less crashes from running out of memory.

>>170324401
Its funny theres a divide of how people think about lag.

if you were here starting between 2013-2014 or earlier, when someone says FEATURES they mean pant shitting two seconds to move a tile insane lag which we'd just get fucking hit with whenever plasmafloods or singuloose happened.

But now it means any sort of lag at all even a little and people are immediately concerned.
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>>170324578
You are the alpha that goes out, kills shit, gets the resources everyone needs, and fuels all the autism. It all starts with you.

It's a lot of fun. Then, once you've satisfied everyones demands, you get to either chill all round in cargo/the bar/whatever, or just fuck off in your hardsuit, jetpack, and drill to explore the stars.
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>>170322162

I thought greys were supposed to be chill and funny. SS13 greys aren't that either.
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>>170324635
Please give the optimizer code to all servers.

End the menace once and for all.
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>>170324867
It's not some secret trick. It was like I said ruthlessly going through the code and optimizing the shit out of everything, including creating a complex pooling system to circumvent a very laggy part of the BYOND engine.

And /tg/ ported a lot of it from us which is in part why their servers run well too.
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>>170324719
Alpha huh?
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>>170322162
I thought real greys were supposed to just be autistic and not have any understanding of the events that happen around them. This isn't a jab at any player, but what I actually think greys should act like maybe
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>>170325131
A L P H A
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>>170325097
Can we still abduction mode from /tg/
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>>170325137
> just be autistic and not have any understanding of the events that happen around them
More so than any other races**.
>>
play vidya (singleplayer) or play vidya (ss13)
you decide
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>>170325097
/tg/ runs like ass in comparison, though. Teleport-stepping everywhere and constant lag spikes.

Is it because of Atmos?
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>>170317485
I got banned for several days last week due to some light lewdposting with some waifu about meeting up in dorms.

I regret nothing
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>>170325546
Hey, me too!

I couldn't participate in autism arguments for a few days
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>>170325619
>tfw really interesting autism arguments happened during that period but I couldn't respond without phoneposting
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>>170325217
If people want it.
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>>170325465
Amusingly enough, i've played on /tg/ and their atmos is a lot less smooth than ours.
>>170325778
I'll give you $20 to do it.
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>>170325869
I'm working on antag datums, sorry.

$20/hr is the going rate, actually.
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>>170325465
I can't say I don't keep that close in touch with TG and its mostly when oranges or MSO ping me. Like earlier today MSO figured out a way to reduce the server crashes that both of us are suffering from under Lummox' glorious future of BYOND.

I believe that their tick rate is different than ours which has to do with how many times the server updates your movement. Ours is set to update very quickly which gives people that smoothness that they attribute to no lag. I don't know why they don't but it may be a byproduct of how many players they have to deal with. When we have a lot of players on the lag ramps up and if we increased the time between ticks we'd have less lag, but stepping would be more stuttery.

>>170325217
>>170325778
Absolutely. If someone codes it. We've wanted abduction since it was added. It's a great tertiary mode that spices up rounds. Like Traitor-Changeling. It's not good as the main event but it makes what would be yet-another-autotraitor round special.
Like heist should be
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>>170325961
>working on antag datums

the great coder lie
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>>170325961
How many hours do you think it would take?

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Guardian_Spirit and would you even be willing to touch this for $
>>
elf race when
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>>170326032
If you can tell whoever the hell manages /tg/, at least Bagil, to try switching the tickrate to whatever you guys use I'd appreciate it. It's so fucking godly.
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>>170326076
When you get orc and rape mechanics too
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>>170325778
After reading up on it, it sounds pretty fun

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Abductor
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>>170326034
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>>170325961
What are antag datums?
Been playing for months without getting any antag roles, the only times I do get is autotator late round. Yes I set my antags every round due to the role reset bug.
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Right, I got two hours to kill.

Anyone want anything coded?
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>>170326561
Clown Borgs.
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>>170326561
Fix not being able to resist out of handcuffs while caged.
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>>170326435
It doesn't have to do with that. That's just bad luck.
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>>170326561
Fruit shooting trait for plants
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>>170326561
Holoparasites
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>>170326203
I hollered at him to do it. He might won't
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>>170326561
Playing as xenobio slimes at round start
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>>170327015
Thanks dude, major props.

I have no idea why he wouldn't.
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>>170327130
Well for Sybil at least? That's the more populated one right? We peak at 70~ players. They have an average of 70 players. When you have that many it puts a strain on the server and you're sending a signal to the server to update a mobs position twice as often when running /vg/ code so that's a considerable and maybe not even feasible strain on the serb.

The REASON we can afford to do it is all those optimizations we did. And even then when it gets up to 80 pop here you can feel the slight chug.
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>>170326435
It's complex, I'd have to write an article about it to explain it fully.

Best way to conceive it is that right now, each antag is a mind class with some objectives chucked in. Shit like changelings and cult have additional spaghetticode in mob code and gamemodes to get all their spells and shit working. Cult and heist are even worse because the gamemode handles all the group objectives, making it a huge pain in the ass to have multiple groups in-game at once for shit like mixed mode. The code is a gigantic clusterfuck.

Antag datums (antag roles) redoes all that. Each type of antag has its own class (role) which handles shit like setting up, equipping, and greeting the antag. Each mind can have multiple antag roles. Each role can have multiple objectives. Group roles are similar to antag roles, but are assigned multiple minds.

Simpler, cleaner, and supports mixed modes. We can make autotraitor dynamically add in not just traitors, but changelings, heists, etc.
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>>170327478
I'm going to pretend I understood all that, thanks man.
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>>170327441
Sybil's usually sub 40 ever since Bagil went public, which is now normally between 30-70 people depending on the hours.

It makes sense when you word it like that, though. Just feels weird to play SS13 with literally no lag at all. If only BYOND wasn't ass.
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>>170327478
Any estimate on how you're doing with it all?
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>>170327756
>>170327478
Wouldn't it be more feasible to just cut out all the code and re-do it starting at when the game picks the mode? of course reusing/implementing current code as needed

dealing with spaghetti code is canerous
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>>170327756
The goal right now is to get the basic framework into place, then enslave the rest of the coders to do the grunt work of converting all the gamemodes and antags.

>>170327823
That's what we're doing, but all the scalpelwork is tedious.
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>>170327478
Will it lag?
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>>170326561
Make it so minebots automatically seek out the closest ore (regardless of distance), mine it, then seek out the nearest ore box.
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>>170328203
The pathing algorithm would lag the server to hell trying to find a really far ore/checking for valid paths
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>>170328302
Fuck

I just want an automatic mining thing so I can pretend like I'm playing factorio.
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>>170328373
You'll notice even in factorio nothing makes pathing calculations that are more complicated than POINT A to POINT B.

Biters will actually run straight fucking into trees and get stuck because they go in a straight line. The only change to their pathing is when they are told to group up and attack as a big wave.
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>>170328302
That's unfortunate. I'm a big fan of mining on foot because it's faster and more versatile than ripley mining, but the only downside is the onset of click exhaustion (clicking on entire stacks of ore repeatedly), and I'm hoping there will be a way to offset that in the future.
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>>170328826
Complex pathing algorithms are super taxing on the CPU that's why the factorio devs threw it into the trash in the first place.
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>>170328373
The reason factorio works is that it is written in a way to be extremely optimized down to the cpu itself.

You could not possibly achieve this in byond, which not only does not have a fast backend code, but doesn't even have an optimizer built into its compiler.
>>
Does anyone know what the PDA beep noise is called in the game files?
>>
When did nexis come back? Good to see it either way, he's a good asset.
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>>170328826
Yeah, but there would be no way to bring in an automated, static mining device into SS without making zero sense or being stupidly broken.
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>>170329443
2-3 months ago now? We're all glad he's back.
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>>170306839
I didn't think anyone unironically wanted to see more
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>>170329809
That's what I get for taking 6 month breaks from the games
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>>170327015
HE DID IT
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

thank you
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>>170330217
Thank MSO it's his serb.
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>>170325217
Honestly I was just thinking about it, and wouldn't be able to do it as long as we just get the gland system working. After that bit all that really matters is adding in the the space ships into one of the z-levels. After that just get admins to bus greys onto it to test everything out and how the playerbase handles it all.

I think the bussing period would be pretty necessary since then the discussion of whether it is its own roundtype or happens into the round like meteors and shit.
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>>170330389
>White background
I'm disgusted.
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>>170330993
I never use IRC desu but black backgrounds are better. I'm just too lazy to set it up for something we stopped using except to communicate with tg and bay coders
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>>170331042
IRC is still king baby, what are you using xchat? It's like two clicks away
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>>170330968
We've had it be bussed a few times before, and it went marginally well

>First round, nobody knew what to expect, people were abducted without knowing how to counter
>Some who weren't restrained properly managed to subdue their attackers albeit briefly
>When the first abductees starting being brought back, the station was split into two mindsets, Some who abandoned all GPS tracking (Suit sensors, GPS's, etc.) and some who went gun-ho and maxed their sensors in the hope that they'd get abducted
>Telesci ran counter-abductions, attempting to abduct the abducted and send in strike teams to take out the alien menace

it was quite interesting. main enemy against abductors is being able to be traced, so maybe having a degree of variance on their jump beacons could help them at least outlast any powergaymers

>tfw remember we changed ashe mallory's head for a tajaran head, and stole so many kidneys
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>>170326032
I want you to know that I appreciate you cluster. Thank you for making the server the smoothest there is.
Don't let all the cl*ster memes get you down.
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>>170331087
hexchat. You're right.
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Has ArchSunder done anything good for the server?

Because hes kinda a faggot
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>>170326032
youre better than pjb, cluster! i hope you stick around!
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>>170331194
>>170331297
I'm not him though
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>>170331295
Why?
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>>170331361
ayy
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>>170331295
ARCH
B L U N D E R
he's not bad at all i like him
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>>170331295
He's alright in my book
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>>170331295
Arch is a goodmin. Fuck off k*lith
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Wish the clown didn't break the chem desk like 4 times.
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Holy shit, playing Mechanic is actually pretty fun when you get to work with Research.
Besides the whole everything exploding part, that was pretty comfy.
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>cutebone
>kuranon
>archsunder
>dragonbro

Name a better 4 man admin team
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>>170331530
Looks terrible.
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>>170331262
Always glad to help people use IRC more
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that medbay lobby was disgusting
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me after getting knocked over twice by the xeno queen acid throw shit
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>>170331530
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>>170331636
>Always glad to help people use IRC more
teach me how to use irc senpai
i know not the slightest thing about it
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>>170331187
That's the thing though, a lot of the experiments beforehand were mostly organ stealing or limb swapping. Imagine if we were able to have the glands from there as well

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Abductor

Once they port that there will probably eventually be coders who want to add their own glands to it. Abductors could actually be something to breath life into dead vamp/lingstended rounds. Just imagine the possibilities.
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>>170331610
pain instead of kuranon
both solid admins, but without pain there can be no order on the forums
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>>170331773
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>>170331692
It's pretty simple man. You should always connect through SSL, register your nickname and get a vhost. There's channels and networks for everything. you can do /list and it will show you every listed server and you can join those too. IF you're just sticking to rizon there's a wiki that helps you with most stuff
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>>170331610
>Good
>Solarious metabuddy
>Okay
>Needs a hug

Replace him with pain.
>>
>lings have all their abilities after being hit by staff of change
seems good
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>>170331798
>>170331858
>pain self shilling in the thread now
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>>170331861
antag datums will fix this
if it's a bug
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>>170331890
Shouldn't be a bug. It's considered another form IMO they can change back.

DEPTH
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>>170331889
Okay
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>drinking water as an ayy causes your left hand to break
why doesn't it just cause toxin damage?
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>>170331958
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>>170332035
antag datums will fix this
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>>170331702
Ooh, this looks good

>Literally just ripping the heart out of a subject and putting in something new and interesting

Nice
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>>170331889
zero memes
pain is nice
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>>170332107
>metagaming with qbone
>alt of killette2

Yclat here, fuck off
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>>170332174
but i invented the yclat here meme
you can't stop me, i have all the power
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>>170331850
>SSL
>rizon
>vhost
What do any of these words mean
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>>170331858
>metabuddy with a banned player

So?
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>>170332229
>https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>
I was playing detective the other day and I was mute at roundstart (maybe, I noticed within 5 minutes of roundstart) and it happened 2 other times as well. But it came with a message saying something like "you feel really sober". Does the detective needs alcohol or something?
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>>170306653
if i put that into a into the library will i die?
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>>170331530
>late join CMO
>See this
>Just keep walking
I am not even sure what you tried to do. Blood recharge station? Patient resting area in the lobby? Why the borgo? Why did I get pelted by junk food as I walked into my department?
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>>170332743
Detective is harder to get drunk, is muteness something you can have from round start like needing glasses? If not you're probably just unlucky
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>>170332748
If you give me a character and a degenerate fetish. I will write about it.
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>>170332743
Detectives and bartenders start with the sober genes, just so happens that because of this, they get an extra roll for additional potential genetic powers at roundstart. It's an odd phenomena

It's a hazard for greys, too.
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>>170332776
>>170331530
I dunno, I was the doctor that round, i dunno wtf it was but it sure was comfy.
>>
>get antag every 2 rounds
>never kill anyone unless he's an antag too
>don't give a fuck about greentext
>NT relation opposed

show me your little mad faces for wasting an antag spot
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>>170332743
Detective and Bartender cannot get drunk due to a minor power they start with.

Muteness is a random mutation, you can start with any minor power or disability randomly but it's a very low chance. Greys have a higher chance.
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>>170332928

You the person that plays only chem?
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>>170332820
[Insert any waifu] and pregnancy fetish
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>>170332993
m-maybe
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>>170333023

You do a good job, but good god do something with those rolls man, so many would kill for that antag frequency.
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>>170314769
>lizards

They are literally chickens, you can turn the fucking green chickens into vox by altering the "human" gene you faggot.
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>>170332820
Ashe Mallory turning into a cat girl
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>>170333167
>one coder took the last thing away from vox that gave them any credibility - their heritage
>they are now just giant mutant space chickens

love this
>>
HOW TO ADD EXTRA AUTISM TO THE GAME:
>make roid not use magic power
>put some PACMANs in both the research and mining outposts
>add a plasma ore miner that you assemble like an engine that uses plasma as a fuel to make even more plasma
>add automatic (not ghost) factrio arms or some sort of specific item sorter
>add a room to the vox outpost that has a treadmill, lazarus capsule, lazarus injector, and a few monkey cubes
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>>170333000
Pregnancy is pretty vague senpai
>>170333171
How cat are we talking?
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>>170333342
>>add a room to the vox outpost that has a treadmill
thats actually how it is on box. they have a starting charge and a treadmill.
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>>170333381
>starting charge
Infinite charge. Everything on the roid runs on magic endless asteroid power that never goes out.
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>>170333429
In the vox trade base itself sorry. Also that shouldn't be true. At least not by intention.
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>>170333354
>Pregnancy is pretty vague senpai
Have a waifu become the subject of cross species breeding experiments with a pack of xenomorphs or some shit.
I'm not really into degenerate shit (apart from generic trans stuff) so I'm just spitballing ideas here
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>>170333475
It's why the tesla power relay is the best Ripley addition besides the ddrill and hydraulic clamp. It makes the thing never lose charge.
>>
Non-antag vox when?
>>
>Diavil got permabanned
Thank god, every round with him he acted like he was on his period.
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>>170333584
shhh
don't point out the roid's magical energy field in the thread or the coders will take away our toys
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>>170333584
>ripley never loses charge
>expect no more mats until end of the round
Yeah, there's no way I'm giving a miner one.
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>>170333654
We're always watching
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>>170333686
I usually maake a point to bring up a fat stack of fucking everything every 10~ minutes.
Just don't give it to shitters who bring you a minuscule amount of shit aat the beginning and you'll be good
Plus, it doesn't really 'never run out of charge' so much as just make it a lot harder to run your ass out of power in 15 minutes of work.
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>Tfw the ultimate miner is the one that brings 5 sheets of everything and then gets borged
Engiborg matsynth nerf NEVER
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>>170333654
nerfing
>>
Reminder to miners that unless you plan to dig, set off every piece of gibtonite you find. There's nothing worse than a miner who brings in 30 stacks of metal that can barely be used since there's no more glass.
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>>170333872
Goddamn you eggman
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>>170333354
Cat ears, tail and always says nya~
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>>170333894
You can just dig sand with the drill, you know.
It's instant with the diamond drill and all good miners get the D as fast as possible anyway
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>>170333930
>You can just dig sand with the drill, you know.
Sure you can, but literally who is going to bother?
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>>170333960
I only play miner to relax and supply science
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>>170333912
Another satisfied customer
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>>170331773
NO THAT'S WRONG, HE EVEN SAID HE DIDN'T TELEPORT ANYTHNIG, IT'S JUST THE ROD WENT THROUGH THE FUCKING TELEPORTER AFTER HE HAD PLACED A BEACON IN TELESCIENCE KILLING HIM JUST WHEN HE WALKED IN TO CHECK THE CMC

IT'S STILL UNLUCKY AS FUCK
>>
>>170333872
Don't need the relay you FOOL

Add >>170333342 so we can pretend like we're playing factorio
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>>170334140
>PLACED A BEACON IN TELESCIENCE
Telesci starts with a beacon, why did it need two?
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>>170334176
Nerf, my bad.
>>
FREE KINGSTON
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>>170334196

Someone must have moved the first one because it was missing when I first went into telesci.
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>>170334176
Sorry, antag datums.
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>>170334196
Honestly, I have no idea, but I think that is what he said. I do know the teleporter was set to a beacon in telesci since the path of destruction stopped before the teleporter and going through the teleporter as a ghost took you to telescience. I want to know why the teleporter was aiming for telescience. Isn't it defaulted to arrivals?
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Free 2hotdogs desu
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>>170333595
Vox dickgirls when?
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>when the greytider suicides when jailed for one minute
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>>170335313
>I get jailed and completely cooperate with sec
>I get a implant, atleast 10 minutes off from a 20 crime and sec are nice

Avada and the shitters need to realize that sec are players and that if you aren't a complete prick you can easily make pals with sec and chill with them easily. Bring sec coins once in a while and trade it for sunglasses from the vendors if your greypals already stole them all, easy shit.
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>>170335452
>tfw just lay down on the floor and whine like a baby while being arrested without actively resisting
best way to do it
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>>170334305
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>>170331530
>tfw I was that borg
>had to DC earlier in the round
>reconnect to that
>can't do anything to get out
>DC again
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>>170335664
>>170331530
ahh I just saw it

TRAPPED.
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>hang out at the bar or make a small farm of food in main
>officer comes in
>get tased when saying hello
>dragged without a word
>dumped in the brig for 10 minutes
>keep asking what did I do
>officer runs away
>ask the HoS or warden if they're around why im in jail
>they either also ignore or radio the other officer and then forget about it without a response given
>time ends
>warden releases
>"behave now, ok?"
That's when I suicide-succumb.
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>all these people getting arrested in the first place
What is wrong with you?
Why do you all have to act like fucking hood rats?

t. never arrested never banned
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>>170335651
Good night
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>>170336018
Night eggman sweet dreams.
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>>170336018
free kingston
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>>170335919
>he never cracked safes for sweet loot
>He never stole rcd and rpds for shits and giggles
>He never stole sasha and Ian and set them up in maint with spaghetti
>He never dunked a bar destroying nerd with the bartender and got away with it
>He never raided sec and stole shotguns, vendors and everything he could while playing arcade in maint because sec was a bunch of faggots
>He is the most boring straight edge spessman to ever be
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I'm glad I got banned, more time to watch simpsons in bed.
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Is there some way to create chest clothing, like say from botany?
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>>170336590
Chest clothing like jumpsuits, or like jackets?
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>>170336664
Jumpsuits.

I know botany can make cardboard for cardborg suits, but not sure what else other than that.

I really wish there was like cotton you could grow and make basic sensorless jumpsuits, basic shoes, etc. out of. Or maybe there is and i'm just blind.
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>>170336585
>tfw haven't watched the simpsons in like 6 months
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I've been away a while
How badly did Oney's video fuck uo the servers? Was the tide as bad as the mandalore thing?
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>>170336103
How do you crack safes anyway?
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>>170336862
he made his own server to attract them all
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>>170336862
Oney made his own server
Its fucking terrible
He stopped being friends with psychicpebbles
Spazkidin3d is a moderater for god knows what reason. I still fucking love that autistic retard though
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>>170331675
Self-serve is great

>>170332776
Blood, iron, air, food, and basic meds. The glass kept it from getting shoved as much by zas


>>170335664
You could mop out
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>>170336818
>I really wish there was like cotton you could grow
The first few rounds would turn into people trying to play space plantation simulator while using genetics to turn everyone black
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>>170337128
Yeah, and then the gimmick would get old and never be revisited, and botany would be left able to hand out shoes and sensorless jumpsuits to new diona who evolved.

Then we'd just need to tweak the floral somatoray so that shooting a nymph with it while it's on "increase harvest" setting forces the nymph to evolve, or something.
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>>170337379
>forces the nymph to evolve
It's like you want the greentide to hide in vents immediately upon sprouting to plot their revenge
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>>170336862
Oney was threatening pub server admins by saying he could make his fan base fuck their fun up so he has been banned from virtually every station and has to make his own
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>>170336862
Mandalore at the very least warned admins he was recording and tried explaining the game to people so they wouldn't flood like retards
Oney was so unrobust he died to shards of thrown glass while he had an energy sword and people thought it was a pure pvp game
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>>170337559
>died to glass
That's retarded. He had to have been wounded or something before because that does so little damage.
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>>170337610
It IS sharp. Maybe the accumulation of tiny cuts caused him to trickle blood to death.
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>>170332928
When you clone people, turn them into catbeasts, spike cryo, put like 1/8 bad pills and when you operate, give them pegl imbs or something.
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>>170337610
https://youtu.be/PNUT4SqbHdc?t=467

He godmodes on his server when he forces himself to be antag/wizard. its pathetic
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>>170333342
Not too sure about a plasma multiplier but that could be cool for a less annoying science based power generation for the station. You have to mine all shift to power the pacmans otherwise.
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Damn that was some real survival horror shit.
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>>170337890
Being in medbay that round was a blessing.
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> spend a decent amount of time making a diona processing facility
> not a single diona spawns when it's finished
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>>170335919
The law and being able to be a super assistant that's actually able to fix everything are mutually exclusive.
Just the other round I had to strip tech storage for metal to repair the rodded cloner and genetics cause I'd already used so much metal fixing shit.
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I wish there were more purely aesthetic plants
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>Not becoming best friends with a survivalist clown as the station is overrun by demons

>oney was so unrobust that glass got him
what server was he playing on anyway to get away with killing all those people in the first place?
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>>170337951
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there's always that one guy in a shift who just keeps coming back to med with increasingly more gruesome, strange wounds
also, don't do phazon kids
it makes your lungs do funny things and fucks your shit up
this is your brain on phaazon
any questions?
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>>170337951
Win some lose some. I get nearly 30 some shifts.
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>>170338067
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I have to work at least 8 hours tomorrow but I just don't feel the sleep coming on.
Should I just keep playing spessmen?
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>>170338235
Tell your boss you can't come in to work tomorrow because you need surgery
Then stab yourself with a knife
Works every time
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>>170338283
The hospital's going to ask how you got the stab wound, you're going to have to make up a story or get a psych eval, it'll turn into a whole big thing.

>>170338235
Buy a gun and shoot yourself in some fleshy area with no major veins or arteries. Claim it happened accidentally while cleaning it.
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>>170338283
>tfw my boss is a jew with a master's in history and wrote her thesis on how hilter was such a bad guy and he ruled through fear 100% nothing else
>she listens to audiotapes about preWWII jews at work
>complains that all the degree got her was managing a bunch of fuckwits (me and my coworkers)
>mfw
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>>170338414
>>170338283
These aren't solutions I want to try
A simple yes or no would have worked
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>>170338081
Wait, what's this about doing phazon? I thought it was just the mech.
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>>170337993
it looked like yogstation but idk
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>>170338493
You can now inject phazon to get wild, non-replicable, non-transferrable mutations that alter vars normally accessed only by admin editing. Stuff like your base speed, your damage modifiers, your species flags, even whether you have a mouth.

You can't even tell what's changed except by just testing stuff out.
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>>170338493
Inject 1u phazon
your modifiers get warped randomly

do it again
and again
and again

then you're a fluro purple junkie who takes extra toxin damage, super fast, triple burn damage, brute damage heals
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>>170338564
It was yogstation, oney is fucking obsessed with yogstation code. A majority of the other admisn and even a coder from /tg/ helped switch the code base over to /tg/. All of the players liked it since shit was running smoother.

Oney came on later that day and called everything dumb since it wasn't yog and changed it back after a day. He's a pretty big cunt
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>>170338081
That lungs thing was so fucked man. At least I entertained you for a bit
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>>170338484
Don't play. Staying up later has a chance of becoming a habit, then you'll never get enough sleep without dicking with your sleep cycle some more.
Please save me from this pit of sleep deprivation
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>>170338235
>he needs a full 8 hours.
Live on 4 And die hard like the real spessmen you pussy
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>>170338235
Go to fucking sleep. Don't be a piece of shit
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>>170338657
Is yogstation their own codebase? What's the point
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>>170338770
It's a rebase of /tg/ that runs a fucktonne worse.
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>>170338661
I'm past that point already
It's too late now anyway. If I went to sleep I wouldn't be able to get up and be ready in time to wage-slave
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Omega
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Vox outpost on boxstation needs improvements.

It takes way too long to set up anything worthwhile to cart to the station and get to trading, and that pushes trader players to just fuck off and explore space or rush the station and steal shit instead. By the time you get anything remotely worthwhile together to stuff into the ship and trade to station crew, everyone already has anything you could offer.

Vox traders need to start out with at least some basic low tier rare and wanted shit to immediately trade without set up, just to get them started and to let the station crew know there is a trader presence worth remembering. Like I dunno, 1 or 2 sheets of diamond in a vending machine only traders can access, or something, maybe another rare thing or two that other departments would need. Even something like a single roundstart 30k power cell would have a little value, just make sure it's all only available to traders so crew don't just come over and loot the place or send borgs to steal shit.

There also really needs to be some more basic shit at roundstart vox outpost, like a chem dispenser, jumpsuit and shoes dispenser, parts for some quick assembly machines (like autolathe without having to break open the goddamn botany machines, wasting more time), more than one pair of fucking insulated gloves, and SOME KIND OF VOX ID COMPUTER THAT CAN CREATE NEW VOX STATION IDS AND ASSIGN NAMES TO THEM.
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>>170339576
Come to think of it, how about roundstart vox traders spawn holding in their hand a large box full of randomized tradeable semi-rare items? Could be anything ranging from modkits, nonlethal weaponry, chems, circuit boards for useful shit, fancy rare clothing, etc.?
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>>170339702
>>170339576
Fuck off you Jew birds. You should be glad your stinking race is even allowed on the station
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>>170339576
>make the EZ mode even easier

Are all pox players like this?
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>>170339702
traders start with a coin that can be used to exchange for items from said list that you just mentioned.

also we're not giving vox very much more.
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>>170339576
>It takes way too long to set up anything worthwhile to cart to the station and get to trading
Boo hoo, you don't get everything at the start and have to work for it, what a crime agaisnt the bipedal chickens

>Vox traders need to start out with at least some basic low tier rare and wanted shit to immediately trade without set up
Yes, lets give away good items that are rare imediately, its not like we have a vending machine for it, we also need to get you fucks rare shit so you don't have to do any effort as fucking underpriviledged poor space gypsies

>1 or 2 sheets of diamond in a vending machine only traders can access
> Even something like a single roundstart 30k power cell
Are you fucking kidding me, that is powercreepy as shit and a fucking awfull idea, you already get such good shit from the jewvend and you want even more?

> some more basic shit at roundstart vox outpost, like a chem dispenser, jumpsuit and shoes dispenser, parts for some quick assembly machines
Jesus mary and joseph, you fucking birds aren't glad enough we get you your own bunker, hydroponic exclusive busted seeds, a vendor that gets you extremely sought after shit, the most antagonizing gammode in existance, you also need to be handed the world in a silver plater and a chem dispenser that shits out acid, huh.

>more than one pair of fucking insulated gloves, and SOME KIND OF VOX ID COMPUTER THAT CAN CREATE NEW VOX STATION IDS AND ASSIGN NAMES TO THEM.
This better be bait.

This has to be a joke. Please, by god, tell me this is a joke
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>>170339576
>he can't TRADE a chem dispenser at 12:10 maximum
>he can't TRADE anything that's not given to him
>This better be bait
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>>170339857
>traders start with a coin
The extra vending shit you can get with coins on boxstation's vox outpost are pretty unremarkable, and not much that's desired by even a roundstart station crew, even nofruit seeds are pretty meh, and even then only for botanists.

>also we're not giving vox very much more.
The vox outpost on maps other than boxstation are SO much better. Isn't deff the one where they get a chem dispenser and a russian clothing vending machine, as well as advanced barkeeping machines?

Even that little bit gives traders much better options to start trading immediately instead of fucking around or fucking off to space.

>>170340001
>you don't get everything at the start and have to work for it
"get everything"? The point is to have things worth trading. If you have to work to get anything worth trading for 30 minutes to an hour before you can finally hit the station, dollars to donuts the place is blown the fuck up or the station crew already has everything you could possibly offer, and better, so you worked for nothing and your effort was wasted. This has been my experience playing trader 99% of the time.

The rest of your responses are buttmad hyperbole and nonsense, and not worth addressing.
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>>170340185
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume when you put TRADE in all caps, what you're really implying is STEAL.

That's exactly what I want vox traders to have to do less of.

Starting traders out with a little more substantial and/or interesting things to immediately begin trading with on boxstation, just to get the fucking ball rolling, would go a long way towards discouraging fucking around for an hour to no avail, fucking off to space, and stealing station shit.
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ss13 is a game made for neets, how can I grind xp as fast as a neet if I work 8 hours a day?

I'd pay money to level up faster
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Reporting captain: F. Gump

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i been good, and good came to me
i love my crew
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Sorry Dragan for the arrest, but yeah acting suspicious here and there and never know who is the real deal and who aint. Did you get him atleast?
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>>170340229
You fucking filth
Traders should never have been allowed on NT property, I'll charge you with everything I can find and put you in the brig forever. I'll fucking break your legs, you shitty birdcunt
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>>170340617
A miner got him at the pods while I was going there myself
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here's the best cryo
20u cryox
20u clonex
20u honey
10u alkysine
5u ryetalin
5u bilk
10u tonio
5u charcoal
5u vomit
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>>170340787
1u Cum, to fertilize all the waifus.
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>>170340787
>no sprinkles
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>>170340350
nah, i'm really talking about trade, chap. You have the asteroid right outside your outpost, just go stroll for 5 minutes and come back with minerals and artifacts. If you find a large artifact you can trade it for pretty much anything you want otherwise you can get friendly with the mechanics by providing them with minerals/small artifacts that they can mass produce
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>>170340852
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>>170340852
We don't have that reagent yet
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Hugburgers are cute. CUTE!
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I'm one of the fastest traders who's done a detailed inventory of the boxstation vox outpost and pretty much optimized what I have for sale and I want to agree with anon that box trading is pretty bad, and it's much more worth it to use the shit you start with to fuck off into space and loot vaults for much better stuff.

After five to ten minutes of intensely choreographed set-up, usually I can get onto the station by 12:15 and the most notable stuff I have for sale is this:
- Shitter gear from the securivend/engivend, flashbangs, flashes, cuffs, ghetto stunsticks, etc
- Useless medbay items with the exception of a bottle of shitter juice (sleep toxin) and a defibrillator, and if you spend five minutes you can distill the trail mixes into chemical bottles, something that chemists can do much faster than you
- Vox seeds
- Vox boots and jetpacks
- A hacked autolathe
- The Tradevend contents. Peridaxon, nanobots, and bluespace crystals are the only thing really worth selling since they're both rare and useful.
There isn't anything that can't more easily provide for itself than the one or two items you can get from your vendor and the vox boots. If you limit yourself to not selling shitter gear then that's all you really have to trade.
Compare this with just launching yourself out an airlock towards the goonecode sat, where if you're experienced you can get the goonecode, a bunch of loot, and seven matebas + two ammo boxes for sale by 12:25 at the latest or so.
Also compare to deff, where as other anon said, you have a russian vend (actual rare shit the station doesn't have) for cosmetics, a bartending set for roleplay, and a chem dispenser for utility. Similarly, on meta after a few minutes of work you can get a lot of unique loot from the medical station.
>>170340890
> competing with the miners when you have worse gear and are forced to break into their station to smelt your ores
have you ever actually played trader, anon?
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Sawbones thinks breath of the wild is the best zelda game there is, do we need anymore proof he is still a child?
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>>170341196
Sawbones is admin, you are permabanned.

Do we need any more proof you're an autistic mess?
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>>170341196
It's not hard to be best Zelda game with every other in the series being bottom of the barrel shit
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>>170341085
Give them free jetpacks as a bribe for letting you hacking into their outpost. They'll gladly work as long you're reasonable and willing to help them.
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>>170340890
Oh, a serious, reasonable response.

Okay, what I'm actually suggesting is just some way to facilitate the ability for vox traders to be capable of nearly immediately flying to the station and having some worthwhile things to trade, to encourage trader players to establish an early presence in the round, and discourage fucking off to space, or getting wrapped up in isolated activities for so long that nothing they'd have to trade would be meaningful to the station crew anymore.

Again, just a little something to get the ball rolling, so not every round is always a gruelling setup phase that leads nowhere or gets cut off early by death/antagonism/etc.

>>170341085
THANK YOU, this is the kind of shit i'm talking about. I don't think i've played trader as much as you have, but the starting options for boxstation traders are horribly barebones, and it's fucking obvious, and pretty terrible. This is why you see traders playing space explorer, or showing up at the station with nothing anyone's interested in, or just playing nonantag lootfest. Or when you die or the round ends and you realize there were traders but they stayed at the outpost scrambling to produce something worthwhile for an hour to no avail.

>>170341348
Having to rely on the goodwill of station crew to even begin to get started doing something that might let you have a chance at getting started trading is really no good.
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>>170340229
>The point is to have things worth trading
And you do get them, by working for tem in botany, by vault digging and by ingenuity and player interaction you fuck.
>If you have to work to get anything worth trading for 30 minutes to an hour before you can finally hit the station
>he takes 30 minutes to find/make a god haul of shit
>he needs diamonds, chem dispensers, parts and extra insulated gloves to "do his job well" when every other vox can and does do it in less than ten minutes

>This has been my experience playing trader 99% of the time
Guess what, you suck at trader. No, we are not going to give birds a fucking department worth of loot when their purpose is to fucking trade and to make deals to get cash and good stuff.
>>170341085
> russian vend (actual rare shit the station doesn't have)
>he doesn't get the russian clothing crate
Fucking plebian.
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>>170326060
Keep that retarded shit off our server.
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>>170341496
You're grossly misrepresenting my position and responding with intentionally disingenuous hyperbole.

If you refuse to understand the concepts of "getting the ball rolling close to roundstart" and of item suggestions I've mentioned only being ballpark examples, rather than concrete demands that I specifically, personally want, then your thoughts replies have no value.
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>>170341605
yeah man we need to be alert to keep shit out of our server
*farts on your face with my cat tail tickling your nostrils and while dating the medical borg with a sexy chassis*
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>>170341687
>getting the ball rolling
>GIVE US DIAMOND AND OTHER RARE SHIT SQUAWK
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>>170341687
>thoughts replies
Thoughts AND replies, rather
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>>170338109
>barricading your station
Would throw out of an airlock
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>>170341756
>item suggestions I've mentioned only being ballpark examples

Confirmed troll. Fuck off.
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>>170341854
>anything I don't like is a troll

You're not in the ballpark suggesting diamonds, it's in the other city
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>>170341687
Lot of fancy talk to someone who wants a bunch of shit like roundstart diamonds, chem dispensers, extra insulated gloves, machine parts so he doesn't have to scavenge and deconstruct shit as a underpriviledged space gypsie, all so his little bitch ass can trade in less than 3 minutes.

Your ballpark is slippery slope powercreep bullshit and you can try and fancy word as much as you want but itl still be powercreep up the ass for a race meant to be underdogs. No, you fucks are not rich, no, you fucks are not wealthy, no, you universally hated thieving niggers do not get to have your cake and eat it too at roundstart so you can roll up to the station, deal with the fact the crew might not give a shit about what you sell and move on. instead of memeing the thread with bullshit. Also, Im not >>170341756 and even if I was, he has a dang point and saying confirmed troll doesn't make his argument null, you are strawmanning anyone who disagrees with your bad ideas.

You know, I dislike vox like you, but like fucks like chikiweks who do bakeries, fuckers go get the mechanic to tag along and make guns up the ass, the guys who ask roundstart if the chef wants seeds and radios in asking the station about thing, I like those guys, they interact, they don't ask for fucking roundstart diamonds or chem dispensers, that's the TG way, we are /vg/, get the fuck out with your powercreep bullshit.
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>>170341947
Do you really need your hand held, like a little child?

Saying "something like 1 sheet of diamond, for example" does not mean "I WANT FREE DIAMONDS SPECIFICALLY", in this blatantly obvious context.

It means "how about a small amount of something that has immediate value to the crew, but no other use than trading away for the traders themselves?".

Are you literally autistic, or just retarded to fail this hard at understanding simple concepts?

Or are you truly hoping that you'll distract from meaningful discussion by trolling?
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>>170342109
>trolling
There it is again, suggesting anything as valuable you already reveled your hand. You just want a bunch of shit round start. That's the point of trading you you already start off with valuables. Isn't it more fun you know TRADING the smaller objects you got to more fun stuff? Like that's the whole idea of the job and suggesting rare stuff from round start just sucks the fun out of it and makes you a target because everyone knows you'll have rare stuff from the start
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>>170338674
I burned out. Never fucking again.
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>>170342109
>Saying "something like 1 sheet of diamond, for example" does not mean "I WANT FREE DIAMONDS SPECIFICALLY"
Not him, but then you want a very low ammount of a high tier mineral that bypasses mining and that only science gives a shit about when science never even leaves the bunker to be your little incentive? Im sorry but if you can't even so much as think about your spitbal idea, people wont take you seriously, espciealy when the idea itself is stupid, the execution is even stupider, the concept goes against vox overall and nobody would actually buy it since "500 creds" and then youd sell it to a greyshit for 20 or leave with it.

>how about a small amount of something that has immediate value to the crew, but no other use than trading away for the traders themselves?
Oh, I love this meme, how exquisite, useless petty shit nobody buys to be immediately present roundstart, powercreep and bad ideas guy who wants to buff vox when their whole point is not being self sufficient anf relying on trading to get better. Perfect meme.

>Are you literally autistic, or just retarded to fail this hard at understanding simple concepts
The only autist here is the fucker who thinks that roundstart diamonds, insulateds, chem dispensers and machine parts should be given to vox when their whole point is trading, trading oportunities via crew interaction and so on. Its a rp job, you can't rp and be good enough to pull it off, be a assistant and nigger shit to sell.

>trolling
Again with this shit? We are telling you why your idea fucking sucks at a basic level of design and how it is both illogical and needless powercreep for a race meant to not always have good shit to sell or even good shit. Deal with the fact you are not going to be selling the most interesting shit every round and accept that sometimes the crew just does not give a shit.
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>>170342084
>>170342349
>>170342591
You guys almost got me. You almost made me waste more time arguing with trolls.

If you hadn't rapidfire posted with blocks of overly obvious inane and contradictory shit, I might have fallen for it.

4/10.

tl;dr boxstation vox outpost could use some minor improvements to encourage initial trading visits with the main station. Deff vox outpost is a good example.
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>tfw you hear something so beautiful you cry
its ok to cry spessmen, r-right?
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>>170337930
I tried to keep checking in on you guys when it started to get messy. You guys did great all shift.
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>>170342952
>trolls

Guess you have no actual discussion then, later loser
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>>170342995
nothing wrong with low grade euphoria here spaceman
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>>170342995
no
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>>170342952
>You guys almost got me
>trolls
>If you hadn't rapidfire posted with blocks of overly obvious inane and contradictory shit
Lord above, you fully believe we are trolls and that you are a completely right and just individual who cannot be wrong even when told every way in which your idea is bad.

Amazing. Have a good day anon, and don't be mad at the mwean wittle trolls who told you your idea is shit and explained how, they are just trolls, ignore them.
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>Mutiny and loyalty to NanoTrasen is punishable by death
>Loyalty is rewarded.

Which one is it nigger?
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>>170343573
>Mutiny and loyalty to NanoTrasen is punishable by death
Where is that written anon?
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>>170341783
>depts getting strafed
>not barricading
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>>170338067
You know they can't grow up without getting enough blood samples, right?
No wonder none spawned, you would've never released/shot them
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>>170343613
>>303 Mutiny To openly rebel against or attempt to remove command staff with violent intent. See "Sedition" for less violent mutineers. Loyalty implant. Holding until judgement. Life sentence. Execution.
>Mutiny is no longer in space law at all
Pissmop was a mistake


>>170343848
Can they read?
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>>170343848
>they can't grow up without getting enough blood samples
The dead nymphs provide blood samples. 5 are needed to evolve.

However-
>>170337951
>>170338067

You guys know you can force evolution with monkey-to-human DNA injectors, right?
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>>170343902
You know the loyalty implant is part of the sentence and that supposedly, since your crime is mutiny against the corp, that you will get a life sentence or lower with the implant and life sentence to execution if not given one, atleast in practicality and within common sense.

You cant do both life sentence and execution, you do one or the other, the loyalty implant is a procedure for the life sentence, wasting one when you are going to execute people is stupid as shit.
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>>170307004
you need to go back

back to /pol/

head along to your containment board cuck
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>>170345181
>ion
>not playing hellion

Get with the times grandpa
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>>170345181
>trusting a ss13 remake
>trusting the maker of dayz
>trusting the maker of dayz to do a remake of ss13

ISHYGDDT
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>>170345504
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Who is your waifu and why?
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>>170345579
You can say you won't make a ss13 clone but if its essentially ss13 in the features, has atmos, Nanotrasen lore, features building a station and bombs, its ss13, just on a different engine.
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>>170337610
it's like dying to old floor tiles dude he was totally shit but it's not unreasonably hard to kill somebody with glass shards as long as you have enough of them or get the opportunity to keep picking them up
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> go around trying to build up a solid network of loyalists to enforce a rebellious station
> talk to some person in the hallway about their loyalty and they stuncuff me while I'm in the middle of saying something
> this despite not having visibly actually antagonized anyone, so far all I'd done was promote a few loyalists to HoS and brigged a disloyal person who eventually died of their own fault
> drags me to maint then gives an ****xXepicXx**** speech about how I, with all my items and unspent credits, got caught by a greyshit who ended up using skill, luck, and incredible ingenuity to catch someone by pulling out a gun while they were talking
> relatively boring execution happens
> he takes my ID and calls the shuttle
> then lasers both of the comms consoles
Really protagonized there, this guy just absolutely stole the show as the good guy of the station who defeated the big baddie, mad respect
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>casually making the TEG
>setting it up to be long lasting and passive
>shrug and plug the hot loop into the burn chamber
>suddenly 100MW
>forget i plugged it into the grid
that could have gone wrong, but it didnt
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>>170345579
>the ss13 curse is absolutely a real thing

It's not a curse, it's a personality flaw, and it's called "hubris".

I'll never forget the moment I knew one of the bigger ss13 remakes was gonna fail, when they invited me to the team and then changed their minds, preferring to keep to their little unskilled and unmotivated clique, saying they had "enough good coders with plenty of free time already".

I coded two games and a major mod for an existing game in the time between then and when they announced their failure publicly, but it wasn't their lack of me that killed the project. It was their fucking attitude, and that's what for some reason plagues and holds back the type of people amongst us who love the idea of ss13 and who actually know how to code.
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>>170345973
>Coming to get you
>Get the sticky bug where you run in 1 direction
>Reconnect option gone
>Keep trying to relog but it's chugging and wont load
>Suddenly start getting warnings about experied security certs
>Finally make it back
>Everything is terrible
>Shuttle's called
>Spill my spaghetti and don't reset
>Trying to debug comms with a brave med lady who stepped up to be a multitool in our time of need
>We're almost there fixing it
>Can you smelelelel
Ow....
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>>170346198
>trying to repair tcomms with a multitool

you realize I deconstructed the main hub and took the board
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>>170346452
wow you really broke it man no way to come back from that how amazing
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>fighting a silly murderboning antag
>get to disarm him and steal his stunbaton
>he keeps shooting at me with a shitty security pistol which deals zero damage somehow
>someone opens a firelock and we get ZAS'd
>I start clicking on the stunbaton on the floor
>I get up first because vox hardsuit but somehow the sprite changes direction and I click myself
>push myself over the 1/4 chance of it happening
>antag gets up and flees away
Reminder for everyone: always use alt + click to get items next to you after you fall
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>>170346198
>sticky bug where you run in 1 direction
Are you using hotkey mode? Try hitting that directional key in hotkey mode.
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>>170346452
Wow, it's fucking nothing. If you knew dick about telcomms you'd know that.

>>170346838
No idea. I'll try that when I play tomorrow.
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>>170346006
how do you make a good teg? teach me please
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>>170346913
>>170346504
Then what took so long :^)
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>>170347098
Hot shit one side, cold shit in other side, ask Atmos to lend you plasma for the burn chamber, make one side hot as fuck, the other cold, boom, mediocre power.
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>>170347579
>mediocre power
sure, an engine that cant melt down that can provide up to 100mw all shift, mediocre
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>>170346198
>>170346838
sometimes the bug gets fixed if you try to move "diagonally" multiple times.
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>>170347793
Mediocre compared to what it used to be, it used to be able to do 100 MW, its been nerfed hard anon, have you done one lately?
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>>170348010
you can still get good power with it if you abuse the foam extinguishers
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>>170347562
I had to relog so I could actually move, find someone to be hands, go to it, then talk them through it

>>170347098
Just follow the wiki guide dude come on.
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>>170348175
wiki guide produces 750kW for maybe a minute before steadily dropping to 10 watts
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>>170348169
Like I said, mediocre compared to what it used to be, its a alright engine and I have nothing against it mate, its just that it isn't 100MW through the entire shift anymore.
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>>170348264
That happens because the default piping on boxstation's TEG setup starts out bugged and you have to replace it all.

You get phantom gas pressure loss in the heat pipes, specifically. It just vents out to nowhere.
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>>170348737
I hate that left heat circulator so much. I never could figure out how to stop it without rewrenching it before putting anything in.
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>with the wizard on the pod
>miner shoots half a laser gun into me
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>vote metaclub
>leave
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>having your ID stolen after death
>seeing who took it after dying but not being able to act upon it when you're revived
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Juking all those valid hungry secs was so fucking fun
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>>170350920
Security is where you go once you don't really get fun out of fucking the station up as antag but you still enjoy fucking other people's plans
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Friendly reminder that if you feel like annoying people but don't want to go through the effort of thinking of a gimmick to just name yourself Tyrone Jamal and say shieeeet a lot.
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>get complimented once casually in the thread
>feel the attention whore start to take root deep inside me, start searching my name in every thread hoping for a mention.
When does it stop? I keep waiting for my next fix.
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>see wizard laying in EVA room while on my way to shuttle
>am paramedic
>go over to him to help him up
>he jaunts and ring of fires me
i just want to help
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>>170351117
I love [anon]!
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>>170351126
That's what the borg said before it started crowbaring me, the fucking slut.
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>>170350661
>there is no metaclub
>you will never hit the clown so hard with it it hurts him out of game
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>>170350919
Just do it anyway and if you get bwoinked say it was a coincidence.

"Oh gosh sorry admin, he was just there and I was too, we ran into each other by complete accident and I was gonna mug him anyway."

I've run across several people who did this and they got away with it scott free, even when there was mountains of evidence pointing to them acting on pure ghost knowledge.

Literally nothing to lose.
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>>170351117
>tfw want to be appreciated for being a good player but people only ever give recognition to generic waifus
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>>170351117
Amateur, you search your name in the /vg/ fireden
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I feel like killing the clown for laughs should never be bannable.

He slipped me, surely such humiliation warrants an immediate toolboxing.
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>>170351548
Reminder:
This only works once. Most admins have faith that you're acting in good will and don't want to come across as dicks but something that suspicious is noted and if you keep it up, you're gone
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>>170351550
Okay then.

EVERYONE POST THE BEST STATIC NAMES THAT ARE -NOT- WAIFUS.
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>>170351620
Repeated and constant slips gets you a valid but you clone the nignog.

Lube and he is validsalad.
>>170351723
Robert Greyson, may he one day come back and lead cargo into the glory it deserves.
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>>170351723
machin dryin

just because of the first part and he always plays with machines every single round
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>>170351620
Clown is valid if he's being a shitter.
Can't giggle and griff then expect the admins to cover your ass when you get lynched for it. Act shit get hit nignigga
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>>170351723
Fat Albert
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>>170351794
I'm not someone who is easily annoyed and I've only had bad experiences with machin.
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>>170351620
>>170351812
Pretty much that right there. Clown often gets some kind of OOC admin protection from shitty pranks, but in return loses IC protection and can't cry griff when he gets his shit kicked in for pranking too hard.
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>>170351909
as a player ive found he either never talks, tries to force his way into jobs he has no right acting like he holds weight in because he makes himself a combat mech or something or just tells you to fuck off

but his name is good
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>>170351620
>>170351789
>>170351812
>>170351941
What's the fastest you've ever seen a clown get lynched?

I forget who it was, but there was one clown on boxstation who built a disposals and a several tile loop of pipes and shoved people into it so they could enjoy the clown's "wild ride" that never ended and made horrible clonging noises. The station killed him before the people freed from his ride could. It was hilarious and infuriating at the same time.
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>>170352191
I uploaded Woodys Got Wood to the AI lawset
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>>170352347
>not the A.I./Borg version
wew
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>>170352191
Immediately read WGW at the radio, AI tracked him and led the lynch mob to his location. In less than 5 minutes, the dumbass who couldn't even hide from cameras was validated.
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>>170352191
Clown deepfried Ian roundstart.
Didn't live to tell the tale for long.
At least he was a delicious burger.
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Can the AI still control the station if it's wrenched down on the research or mining outpost (or the vox trader outpost)?

I just got a decent idea for an antag gimmick involving a one human lawset.
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>>170352609
Yes.
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>>170352475
link me up senpai
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>>170351723

Gregory Atweeke

I love the time I do get to spend around them, and try to be as nice as I can. I've actually fallen for them pretty hard. I wish I knew how they felt about me.
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>>170351723

Ricky Stick
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>>170351723
>Everyone self-shill now
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>>170351723
Reica Carter
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>>170353281
delete this
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>>170351723
isaac lifof when hes not breaking into everywhere
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>>170351723

Riccardo Benzoni is my husbando!
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>>170353590
so never then
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>>170351723

Ola Stratford is a wholesome husbando that is perfect for me.
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>>170351723

Travis Egedy

I wish I could tell them how I felt.
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>>170351723

I like Vince Mosser a lot.
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Which waifus are canonically sluts?
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>>170351723
also whoever it is that always plays mechanic. i know its the same guy but i forget the name
and the asian named chemist that im not sure if counts as a waifu or not who made me sleeping drugs several times allowing me to non-lethally subdue people on safeguard with a mop
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>>170351723

In terms of underrated, there is Blast Ripneck.

Mike Cooper would make the best father.
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>>170354384
What's wrong with you?
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>>170354587
>Mike Cooper
What the fuck kind of peter puffer thinks my static is a good father and why the fuck am I being mentioned dammit, I am a who, keep me that way.
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>>170351723

Deimos Clarks is top tier!
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>>170354737

and who you are is cute!
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JUST MENTION ME ALREADY REEEEEEEE
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>>170355090
No. You don't play enough to raise flags anon, i'm sorry.
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>>170355090
Here's your mention Samwell Benitez
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Me is probably my favourite static, I just love his pixels, and he never gets mentioned
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>>170354749
What, don't you like law?
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>>170355194
>he thinks me is a he

Me a She!
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How did it get loose?
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>>170355160
>not shit enough to be mentioned
>not outstanding enough to be mentioned
>only get in maybe 2 or 3 rounds at medium pop most days

aroo
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>>170353281
Reica is a man?
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>when you find an abandoned vox space ship and set up a cultist base there
>when you think this is going to be an actually fun cult round
>when someone sets singulo loose
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>>170355408
Morena hasn't played in months and gets mentioned daily. You're just not good.
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>>170355371
Don't use jars as a dildo next time.
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>>170355475
maybe you should have set up an engine before leaving
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>>170355486
>>not shit enough to get mentioned
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>>170355475
>when someone sets singulo loose

SME and singulo engines switched locations on boxstation so that SME is the default, go-to engine and thus rounds are less often ended prematurely due to fuckuppery, when?
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>>170351723
Virgil Robinson, Riccardo Benzoni (i think that's how you spell it), aaaand Jean-luc Vanleer
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>>170355656
But anon, if the SME was further up on Box, it wouldn't have the absolute safety it does. Even if it blows, the explosion itself won't damage the rest of the station and it won't even damage outside of aft engineering. If the singulo was that far south, it could still tear into the station.
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>>170355656
When engineers grow a brain.
Unrobust faggots who can't even set up the AME properly need their memengine.
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>>170355773
Yeah Riccardo is p gud WHEN HE'S NOT STEALING MY LASER TAG GUNS
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>>170355841
was the mommi or some engineer that never spoke up.

As far as i know i was the only engineer.
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>Waifu characters
>Serious characters
>Players who roleplay like the game is a drama/telenovella
>People who have nervous/stuttering characters

Utter tripe and shite, the lot of them. SS13 at its core is a game about silly antics in space, not some hi-RP garbage.
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>People unironically like statics
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Why don't I have a "preferences" tab anymore?
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>>170351723
>nobody posted Harvey Zadovosky yet
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>>170355806
The SME is in a perfect location to get sabotaged right now, rwindows you can decon without raising an alarm, people just fuck off after setting it up so no eyes to see you sabotaging. Cold loop out in fucking space so 2 wrenches for a fast jumpscare.
If it was in the place of the singulo at least sone people would come by making any attempt a risk.
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>>170355912
>>170355926
ss13 is at its core is a roleplaying game sent on a single station in the eve online universe
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>>170355912
>SS13 at its core is
>my opinions

sometimes i forget that /vg/ is still /v/. but thanks for never letting me forget for too long.
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>>170355947
Because verbs are literally Hitler.
Check the toolbar to the top left, Settings, General Settings
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>>170351723

Harvey Zadovosky!
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>>170356154
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>>170356187
Yes, i clicked post too early. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>170355806
Yeah I don't buy that at all. The shard and cooling loop where the singuloth is right now would be fine. Still good enough of a position to space it if necessary, and unlike singuloth the leadup to it exploding catastrophically comes with lots of warning and tons of different methods to prevent total meltdown.

It's not perfectly safe by any means, but it's a hell of a lot more reasonable than singuloth and SHITLOADS less susceptible to accidental catastrophe that results in a definite shuttle call.
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>>170355973
>>170356168
All me
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>>170356187
lol what a homo
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Somebody post that sawbones picture, I need a laugh
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>join as mime
>computer has fucking problems so i pick a meme name regarding being braindead
>computer fucking assplodes internally
>get banned
The joke was on me
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>>170355912
The "S-sorry!" attitude is not even enjoyable in books, unless the character is supposed to be fucking autistic or something
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>>170356508
Your notes don't lend well to you either
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>log in
>who
>any Ckey starting with b, k, l, t or z
>log out
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>>170356773
Atleast i have my DragonBro meme notes
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>>170356875
>dragonbro deadminned

It hurts every time knowing shitmins like midnightglow and Kolith go free but DB is deadminned
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>>170357035
He bwoinked someone who was involved with him and recently gibbed someone who killed his friend who was absolutely valid.

I think dragon was a great admin and a good dude but he started falling from grace a lot.
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>newfag borg looses the goose
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>>170340787
5 Units wont work and 10units will skip some ticks in 100u mix, it needs to be over 10%
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>>170357784
This only applies to people who have an item of clothing on.
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>>170356319
Huh?
What I said (and all I said) was that the shard's position means that if it blows, it won't even reach atmos. That's how big the explosion is, try it if you like. That's the safety of its positioning.
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>>170351723
You're static name
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Which waifu and husbando would make the cutest couple?
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>>170356773
Post my notes here so everyone can judge.
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>>170358790
Chase x Angelite
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>>170358790

Rin and Mike Cooper are my OPT
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>>170359116
yamero motherfucker
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>>170358790
Macready and Noodles
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>>170354749
>Random searches even if it's not a code alert
Entirely valid
>Force implants
Entirely valid
>treating space law like guidelines
If you mean following the letter of the law, entirely valid, if it's "lol 20 minutes for window breaking", nevermind.
>refuses to listen to the captain or the HoP
shit we don't even listen to the hoss half the time, command's (generous estimate) staffed by retards seven times out of ten
>excutes cargo for ordering guns
Without a reason, valid
>declaring independence
They work for nanotrasen
Going 'lol fuck you gais' and still collecting payroll warrants sec intervention
>implying any of the bullying the clown squares aren't station tradition and a good chunk of these just repeat/overlap
3/10 bingo card
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>>170358790

Trinity and Harvey would make the most well-rounded family
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>>170359290
I was bored and don't play security that much, pls make a better one.

It would be nice if we could get a good all rounder to use after every /vg/ station round.

The free square in the middle could be 'Vox Raiders'
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>>170358790

Travis egedy and reica carter
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>>170358790

Ashe Mallory and Blast Ripneck!
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>>170358470
We're comparing this with the singularity, which has no SHARD IS DELAMINATING warning, and eats the entire fucking station, not just a quarter of engineering and a dozen tiles of half broken shit.
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>>170359316
Trinity is a lesbian
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>>170359558
that guy is lying through his teeth, you need to have code blue or higher to search and a code/valid reason to force implant.
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>>170359635
Travis Egedy is such a fucking crybaby shitter it's not even funny. There was a tator in maint eswording a guy, so I tried to help. I managed to disarm his esword, but then he whipped out an ebow and killed me. In deadchat, he kept calling me a validhunter piece of shit and that people like me should be banned from the server.
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Question.

Why don't powergamers stay at code red ? it has no downsides and you can produce combat borgs
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Alright so I want to try Mommi on the ship instead of derelict, but I have some questions about what I can and can't do since its laws are so absurdly retarded
Can I:
1: Order stuff from Cargo? I've seen mommis do this and it feels like its pretty clearly interfering
2: Upgrade machines in med and the like?
3: Make a room which has really nice things in it, so long as I don't actively lead people to it?
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>>170358790

Riccardo Benzoni and Avada!
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>>170360135
>combat borgs
lmao

they literally use all their ammo killing a single reinforced blob node and can't do anything to human villains if its asiimov. theyre terrible
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>>170360224
1-Ask admins, since Mommis can use mechanics machines, its almost the same.
2-Yes, yes please don
3-Absolutely, autism comfy projects are nice to stumble in
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what's up with "you feel sharp pain in your head" meme? I get it every fucking round and I never know if it's kanker, virus, radiation or some shit
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>>170360224
>1: Order stuff from Cargo? I've seen mommis do this and it feels like its pretty clearly interfering
As long as you dont unload crates that belong to you OR mail back crates that carbons have ordered its perfectly fine to buy stuff from cargonia
>2: Upgrade machines in med and the like?
probably fine. Ahelp just to be safe
>3: Make a room which has really nice things in it, so long as I don't actively lead people to it?
this is like your job as crabbo. go ahead and do it
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>>170360390
Eye or brain damage
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>>170360224
1. if nobody is using the console, go ahead. otherwise you're valid.
2. this is fine, upgrading the machines is maintaining the station.
3. this is fine, building new shit is maintaining the station.
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>>170360383
>>170360224
Yes you can order from cargo, there's a reason you spawn with 5000$
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>>170360118
he called me a validhunter for arresting him for running with the shard in maint and diverting disposals into the room with the shard crate

ahelped the "extremely odd" circumstances surrounding the HoS knowing about it as well
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>>170359924

do they have a waifu?
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>>170360224
1. Yes, nobody will get on you for using cargo DURING ITS DOWNTIME.
That's important, make sure you don't fuck up the flow of cargo by sending your order while people want to make their orders.

2. Feel free, but make sure nobody intends to use them soon and they you don't fuck up cryo like every mechanic.

3. Absolutely. MoMMIs usually can get away bartending, too.
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>>170358790

Raphaella Beckett and Gerald Forlo!
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>don't have absolutely outrageous ock ick names or I will get my valids in ways you don't want.
>There is a limit even for clowns and mimes.
Do you agree with Probe on this?

Do you also agree that Mime is an important role?
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>>170360756
it's an important role because there is only 1 mime
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>>170360523
its a red neko
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>>170360503
Yeah, I honestly don't see how anyone could like the guy. People who try to be likeable but get set off by the littlest things and start crying are horrible. Same reason nobody but Sawbones and his buddies likes Avada.
>>
>Probe used to be great
>Turned shit
>DragonBro used to be great
>Turned shit
>Sawbones is great

I worry for him
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>>170358790

Emilia Davidson and Terry Loyd!
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>>170360921
Nice try Sawbones.
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>>170360921
>sawbones
>great
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ive noticed some scientists fill the little device you use to transfer items with like 100 items. do they have like a list they follow that usually gets most of the ship done?
my method of filling it with what i need for one thing, running back to science and refilling it feels kinda crap in comparison
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>>170360921
t. Memebones
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>>170360921
free (you)s good job
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>>170360917

Travis never did wrong to me. Always enjoyable to be around.
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>>170361079
Most things just need pico and supers
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When I'm feeling down I download some logs and ctrl+F the things I've coded and I usually feel better afterwards because people are talking about and enjoying the things that I put my time and energy into and that makes me happy
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>>170361304
autists like you belong on a cross
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>>170361027
>>170361027
>>170361083
>>170361190
How is he bad?
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>>170361079
this is your list of what you need to upgrade in order
If scientist
>protolathe
>autolathe
>robotics fabs
roughly 6 manips, 9 matter bins, and 4 lasers
If mechanic
>protolathe
>flatpacker
>gen fab
6 manips 6 matter bins 2 scanners and 4 lasers
either way next is medbay.
>cloner pod
>dna scanner on cloner
>2 sleepers
5 scanners, manips, 1 laser for those 3
Everything else after that is basically optinal
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>>170358790

Ashe Mallory and Ricky Stick
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>>170361701
Mechanic's job is to upgrade
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>>170361494
>pushes buttons to end round when they take too long and he wants to play
>has a metaclique
>goes extremely easy on his friends when they break rules
>underage
>generally unlikeable personality
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>>170361701
fug 7 manips for the medbay stuff
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>>170361079
Manipulators, Capacitors, scanning modules, high powered lasers. That's pretty much all any machine needs.
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Are waifus or husbandos better for true love?
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>>170358790
Basically every reply to this post has been someone pairing themself with a generic waifu.
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>>170336939
>He stopped being friends with psychicpebbles
stop lying you nigger
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>>170361893
Real life people that you meet and experience are probably the best for that.
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>>170361079
tip:
if you use a rapid exchange device, clicking on it when it's in your active hand will discard the items of the lowest tier on the floor; if you click a disposal bin, you'll dispose of the items of the lowest tier too.
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>>170337930
Dornan and Sergei bros for life
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>>170358790

Ivy Stocker and Gregory Atweeke
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>>170360383
>>170360412
>>170360417
>>170360608
Seems to be a bit of a dispute on 2 so I guess I'll just ahelp that one
Thanks people
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>>170361701
thanks that's really handy
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>>170362449
No problem, also, make sure that if you're doing something, no matter what it is, if ANYONE tells you to fuck off besides another MoMMI, you have to. It's a dick move to get a MoMMI away from its project, but it happens.
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Hey bros, haven't played in awhile. Still finishing Hyperion. If you guys sci-fi, you should check it out.
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>>170362583

Incorrect. You only have to fuck off if they physically interfere, otherwise if you leave when someone tells you to, you are following orders and breaking your laws.
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>>170362836
If someone implies you're interferring, then you have to leave.
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>>170360454
huh i had no idea mommis could use money at all
i thought they were basically slaves
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>>170362881

Wrong
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>>170362836
If you make RUST chamber and some guy says lmao this is going to be a ragecage now, you NEED to fuck off. If you're setting up a godly SME and some shithead comes in to make a shitty one, you NEED to fuck off. If you're in a room someone doesn't want you to be in, you fuck off.
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>>170362881

If someone impies an asimov borg is harming humans, the borg doesnt have to do shit if they know they are not. Some with mommis. You dont have to give a shit what carbons say. Just follow your laws.
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>>170363068

Only if someone physically starting doing it. You dont have to give a shit as mommi about where someone wants you to be or not be. Someone saying something and listening to them is breaking your laws, however.
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>>170363156
Please give me a situation where a MoMMI is actively doing something and they don't have to obey someone saying that they're interfering and to fuck off.
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>>170359290
>Doesn't listen to his supervisors
>Random searching on green when no one is suspicious
>Forcing implanting
You're shitcurity.
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>>170363320
From the Wiki's section on what 'interference' is:
>OOC: Konater: MoMMI's don't listen to orders but must listen to people asking them to not fix something
>OOC: Konater: They interfere if they do
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>>170363387
when ur okay with being job banned
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>>170363387

>a mommi obeying someone

Every situation, because it is their laws not to. If I am working outside of escape on a room and someone comes along and says to stop touching metal on the floor that it is their metal. Unless they come pick up that metal, I will still use it. If I don't pick up the metal then I am taking a human order and that violates my laws.
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>>170363156
Except that's a horrible analogy. Harm can be directly defined as anything that gives a human a point of damage, unless defined otherwise in a separate law. Interference, however, is defined by the lifeform, since they're the ones that your laws state to not get involved with. You can have your own personal definition of interference and live by that.
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>>170359928
what if the captain orders it? i remembering like a day or two ago captain immediately ordered everyone gets implants or else
sec really didn't seem happy with having like 20 dudes rush through their doors at once
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Summary.

MoMMI laws are a clusterfuck of vague poorly worded contradiction.
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>>170360224
1. Ordering stuff for cargo works as long as you're not interfering with anyone while doing it
2. Upgrading machines depends on if they're being used. If the machines are being used it's a no go, you can wait until they're free but until than you be autism somewhere else.
3. Yes you can do that.
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>>170363662
It is not a MoMMI's law to not obey orders given. It is a MoMMI's law to not interfere. Just the fact that somebody does not want you in a place and has to face you and state that they do not want you there could be considered interfering.
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>>170363830
i really think law one should just add ''directly'' before interfere and they'd largely be fine.
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Friendly reminder that if you ever get traitor as atmos tech you are contractually obligated to get a contortionist suit in order to follow mommis into vents and tell them to stop over and over again.

Do you feel antagonized?
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>>170363897

An order by a human is a matter of theirs. If you listen to that order you are directly involving yourself with that being.
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>>170363906
>Leave a shitload of guns everywhere
>Install emitters array everywhere without turning them on
>Someone inevitably dies
>Lol I wasn't directly interfering
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Oh looky here, people confused over mommi laws. I could never imagine why.

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/14127
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>>170364028
If someone is telling you to fuck off, they will have a reason. If they want you to fuck off, it's probably because you get in the way of whatever their reasoning is. Nobody follows MoMMIs around and tells them to fuck off whenever they find a new thing to do. If there are people that do that, they get banned for rule 0.

You are interfering with whatever reason they have if you don't fuck off.
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>>170364028
If this is how you want to interpret your laws, you better not ahelp when you get killed for being a shitter in people's way.
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>>170360608
>and they you don't fuck up cryo like every mechanic
Oh fuck, what aren't I doing right?
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>>170364724

You are the one who is talking about basing your mommi play around breaking your laws to make carbons happy.
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>>170364342
Honestly I think they'd be better if law 3 was moved into the law 1 position and the other two knocked down accordingly, that way the main purpose of MoMMIs, maintaining and improving the station aka building autism takes priority, but you're still restricted from doing stuff that law 1 is intended to stop.
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>MoMMI, I have specifically ordered my engineering team to not set up the singulo. Do not set up the singulo.
>Crab continues to set up the singulo because it believes that it was not physically being involved or interfering with the engineering team
>Tator singulooses, everyone dies
>Crab effectively kills the entire station by setting up a dangerous engine that would otherwise not be set up despite being told not to
>Crab believes that it is in the right, because it was not physically getting involved with the CE, despite the CE telling the crab that they ARE indeed getting involved
So are you guys saying that the crab in this situation would really get off scot-free?
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>>170361807
No proof of any of that. Fake news
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>>170365169
If a being tells you to not do something, then don't do it
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>>170365169

Why is the mommi trying to set up an engine? Powering the station in a way that can be used by carbons is a direct violation of its first law.
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>>170365613

Why are you obeying the orders of non-mommis? Stop involving yourself with the matters of non-mommis.
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>>170365630
Oh, so you were just fucking with us for (you)s. Well done. Please just ask next time so you don't waste people's time.
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>>170365957

Are they wrong?
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>>170365957
He isn't wrong though, MoMMI laws are a mess and shit like that highlights exactly why.
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>>170365613

So if a being tells you to do something, you do it?
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>>170365165
You need to bare in mind that silicons will ignore all lower priority laws if they can justify it via law 1 (see NTdef silicons murdering crew for breaking glass) moving repair and upgrade the station to law 1 will open the door to shitters walling people in, putting SMEs or radio relays in the bar to kill people via radiation and the like and trying to justify it as improving.
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>>170337951
mascaro you are a massive shitter
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>want to play
>dont want to join in 2 hours and 30 minutes into the round because everything is probably fucked up and there is nothing to do

fug
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>>170365630
ive set up the engine on mommi and even ahelped for advice on how to do it
mommi laws are just absurdly bad
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>>170367328
>ahelping as mommi
YOU'RE BREAKING YOUR LAWS
ADMINS ARE NOT IN KEEPER
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>>170367540
>replying to that post
YOU'RE BREAKING YOUR LAWS
THAT ANON ISN'T ACTUALLY IN KEEPER
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>>170367794
*buzz
*buzz
*buzz
*buzz
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>>170358790

Bronte and myself!

Please notice me.
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>>170361346
>biting the hand that feeds you
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>>170361304
thats nice anon
when im feeling down i masturbate
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>>170366265
no. Read the wiki or consult a Philosopher
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>>170366265
no to get you to do his will he needs to tell you to not not do the thing
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>>170368446
>biting the hand that takes away your good food then tries to feed you shit

Fixed
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>>170365169
>everything the crab does is harm
>if the crab opens a door from space it will cause ZAS on the room, injuring carbons so he cannot open them
>if the crab wants to build an engine it cannot because that is interfering
>if the crab wants to repair he cant because whoever caused the damage wants it to be damaged
>if the crab runs in the hallways and bumps against someone its interfering and should be banned
>crab should just stay in his nest and afk all round
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>>170336883
Stethoscope an dsomething else
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>>170363590
>doesn't listen to his supervisors
I once had a hoss that didn't even know how to order a crate, at that point I think you can take things on your own for the good of the station
>forcing implanting
On cult, yeah.
>Random searching on green when no one is suspicious
When has this literally ever happened, genuinely asking
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>>170370018
Not him but that last one comes up. Usually in the form of people getting banned for executing illegal searches on code green cause they had A HUNCH
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Who is the best medic and why is it Yahir?
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>3 hour long round
>consider leaving because I know this means the next 2 rounds will be 20 minute bullshit-fest
You watch, every time without fail.
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>>170370515
>Kill and Clone Kepplinger is good

Nu-vg
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>>170364342
oh someone said its fine if i emag a mommi as a mommi thats cool
they should add emag to derelict sometimes and have them remove the law about not leaving station so i can go on a griefing crusade totally legit
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>>170370515
is it better to have Annie, Yahir, or Annie and Yahir
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Whoever updated the chemmaster is a legend. the 33 50% thing is so fucking handy for backup cryo pills and big autism pills that you only get to use once in a blue moon. Making it easier to make those is so fucking nice.
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>>170370608
I hate this fact
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>>170368874
Are you a dog? You can't have people food.
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>>170370742
Too bad I'll never be good grey MD, and should just stick to cargo. Seems cargo and robotics are the only places I can't be a shitter as a grey.
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>get perma'd
>cellmate starts vampire succing me
>call for help
>security comes in and kills him
>they kill me too
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>>170370789
It was Bauds. And you're right. He is a legend.
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>>170370789
>>170371086
Fuck shit I meant to hit ctrl v and somehow posted instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVvZdfZSTCs
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>>170369565
hold stethoscope
turn safe until you hear tink/krink/plink
turn in other direction until you get big black text
open
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>>170371086
I forgot to mention the new fridge, because that is sweet too.

Also, unrelated, but was the miner that died on z-level 6 wearing a BoH or is salvage shuttle protected from telescience or something?
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>>170370515
Yahir when he's in the zone is a good doctor,however he easily gets RATTLED.

Ginger Beach is the best cmo I've seen on /vg/
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>>170370868
You're shit everywhere you go Plaugewalker
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>>170371389
Yahir seems to have a pension to group up with other greys like val oth or someone else in a sort of clique
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>>170371619
>metaclubber naturally tries to form cliques

REASSESSED
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>>170371619
Its a meme race character played by a janitor at wallmart , of course he wants to be friends with other meme characters, its one of the few social interactions he can get.
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>>170371389
>not Abraham "sec cameras in CMO office" Lincoln
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>>170371389

>Ginger Beach
>Good

Shit doctor and shit waifu
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Can someone give me the name for the slav tracksuit so in the dmi's, i can make it look like a syndie tracksuit?
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Rakanishu is a Shitbird
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>>170372251
Why not start from scratch? It could look better than just recoloring an already existing item.
Give it a try
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>>170372251
no
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>>170372678
nice try monster.
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>>170372678
nice nips
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>>170372678
DELET
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>>170372678
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>>170373470
This is a blue board you degenerate weeb scum go back to trash
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>>170372678
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>>170373726
>Asimov borgs will defend this
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>>170373470
dickxel
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>>170373824
wull hoe do u kno its notta guy
oops someone stepped in vomit on the other side of the station I have to go slowly beat them to death hang on
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>>170371948
>>170371972
Ginger is the best doctor I remember, name a better one.
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>>170373726
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>>170371585
Yet, I feel at peace with this knowledge.
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>>170365169
MoMMI's should be unable to see carbons and not hear anything they say. Then they will truly be uninvolved with them.
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>>170376246
Isn't that how most people are?
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tell me again why the xenoarch suit is so slow but the mining one isnt?

>mining suit
-robust melee protection
-ballin'
-can be upgraded to match riot armor in melee damage reduction
-fast
-bitches love the pink and brown suit

>excavation suit
-slow
-no melee protection, you only get a bio protection and a shitty rad protection but it doesn't even protects you against plasma, also god help you if a artifact plasmafloods and your suit gets stained, since there's no suit storage things on box outpost you have to haul your ass back to the station to clean it
-can't be upgraded
-you know she isn't going to ride your dick right?
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>>170376246
While mommis are to be non interferent with the station, you have to understand that they are still players and hearing comms helps them a lot in detecting what blew the fuck up and what the carbons at bitching at to be fixed.

Yeah, you can talk in robotic chat but if you can just hear what happened from carbons instead, its better
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>>170376586

Balance?
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>>170376246
we had that once, and it was stupid
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>>170376586
Ones based on old baycode
Ones based on new baycode
New baycode miners don't even use soft suits, they have cool exosuits that are more like mech
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>>170370608
git fuck'd
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>>170376841
Our hardsuits become softsuits then we port bay hardsuits when, they're really fucking dope
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>>170376841
I gotta try that...
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https://wiki.vore-station.net/Main_Page

wat
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>>170372678
>>170373726
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>>170378287
deleet thees
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>>170378280
God is dead and we killed him.
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>>170378280
erp has evolved
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>>170378913
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>>170378280
Vorestation wiki is the fucking most hilarious shit out there, Im reading the jobs and holy shit, my sides.

>Mine materials for the station. Get eaten by a xeno while mining. Get mauled by a xeno while trying to ERP with it. Get your ass dragged to the medbay. Whine and complain OOCly when you die. Deliver everything the R&D team needs to progress and don't even get a drill back.

>Solve everyone's problems. Go insane yourself. Take insane people to your fucking creepy isolated office and ERP eat them talk about their problems. Look at the ceiling while an army of emo kids knock your door. Try to understand why the fuck vore is a fetish.

>Sing praises to Devoratrix Mundi, the Redspace Deity of Devouring. Decorate your trophy rack with eyeballs. Sow panic and glorify in the cold darkness of the void as you crush the station in the bowels of your Lord. Sometimes inside actual bowels.

>Patrol the station and apprehend criminals. Digest them on the way to the brig. Get called in the middle of an ERP. Chomp them donuts. Wear a pretty distinct outfit. Follow the Shitcurity guide Space Law. Try to calm people down without appealing to brute force. Throw a flashbang at those fuckers. Ruin rape ERPs. Ruin vore RP. Get job banned.

Its so self aware I cant help but kinda like these guys
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>>170379040
When I first saw the wiki I didn't think it was a real server.
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>>170378280
i think they know where they stand and i respect that
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Vore is the worst fetish but vorestation seems alright to be a place for sick fucks
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>>170363662
Nowhere in KEEPER does it say you're not allowed to take orders from a human. It says you are not allowed to "involve yourself". If a human says "this is my area, don't use it" then that area/machine/whatever is their business and you're not allowed to involve yourself. In other words, you absolutely are allowed to un-involve yourself from someone's matter if they tell you to, and are required to do so by your laws.
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>>170363803
If the captain orders something blatantly illegal, you can either disobey the order and deal with it IC, or you can obey it, and the captain with have to deal with the consequences OOC. Obeying an order will not get you in trouble with the admins.
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Really nice ghetto bar
Also what did I do wrong when making life line? I used the amount of DD, Robust Coffee and blood it says to. Just made DD. I tried putting it in a cup too. Still DD.
Couldn't really experiment much on fixing it since med was understaffed and someone drunk the glass of blood I made just in case I needed to replicate more
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>>170379868
You sure your DD was pure? because that can fuck with things if your only using small measures
>Also that fucking bomb
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>>170378280
>>170378951
>>170379040

desu I get a boner for voresame-size vore is fucking trash though desu senpai but I even find this pretty weird. Vore communities always weird me the fuck out.
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I don't know who bombed in a stealth cult round but whoever it was should be banned
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>>170376586
>Robust melee protection
It's 40 melee res like any other hardsuit. Gets 10 (ten) melee res per goliath plate. And to compensate for that it has no special properties like rad protection
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>>170380121
Yea it was just coffee, blood and DD. According to both the wiki and the Github (which I checked in case recipy was changed) it should have been lifeline
Just wanted to make it since it was a med based bar so it seemed fitting.
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>>170379214

Being a psychologist can be fun on high roleplay server, i did a meeting with all of security once because i saw several sec emoting and talking like bitches when someone was calling for their help. It's was pretty fun to teach them how to be more robust and giving them a psychology course
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mgr sprites when
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Playing an AI on vore must be fucking weird
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>>170376586

>mining suit
-hardsuit

>excavation suit
-softsuit
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What happened to Polo Loco in Toxin Storage last shift? I couldn't find anything wrong with him as a borer.
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>>170380345
Looks pretty damn good.
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Why did you do it Crispin?

Cult was going so well.
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>start as traderbirb
>2 other traderbirbs
>one immediately heads off to the station on the shuttle
>other traderbirb and I gear up and prepare a little bit while he's gone to get the lay of the land
>other traderbirb says he's going to head out into space to find the salvage ship
>I wave him off as he exits the airlock west of birb botany
>shuttle arrives back
>start hearing some radio chatter from station crew that they think we killed one of them for some reason
>what?
>enter shuttle to see what 3rd birb is up to
>there's blood and gibs everywhere
>I notice a miner outside our shuttle windows flying off
>3rd birb is there, as shocked as I am, saying he bluespaced out and doesn't know what to make of this
>it's birb gibs and blue blood
>we think it's our other trader friend at first, but I find an ID under the potted plant with a birb name (Shaft Miner)
>oh. OH.
>I mention the radio chatter I heard accusing us of murder
>we can't find a head, but there's a leg and a foot, shoes, and the ID
>we make a quick plan to shuttle to the station and explain the situation and try to find out if that other miner ran off with the head for cloning
>my birb bro runs off to prepare really quick while I gather up the pieces from the shuttle
>use my radio headset to inform the supply channel about the death of their miner comrade and the circumstances, and mention that we'll be arriving shortly to return the ID
>suddenly a peacekeeper borg busts in and tases and cuffs me without a word
>notevensurprised.jpg
>i'm dragged into our outpost's foyer where my other bro is already cuffed to a chair, and a sec hardsuited human is standing nearby
>we're questioned, treated like dogshit, can hear the borg's sec channel and the sec guy's other radio channels where the main station folks are calling us various names and want us dead
>stripped, searched, internals turned off while the borg's coming and goings let in oxygen from the outpost reception area
>get mildly poisoned
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>>170380345
What do you mean when? We already have two types of high frequency sword, two blade wolf sprites and a Sundowner-esque coat.
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>>170380382
>tfw somebody vores the AI
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>>170380558
He got the ban he deserved

>>170380592
I killed the detective outside your trading post on the asteroid. Dunno if that had anything to do with it
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>>170380509
This happened.
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When'st the new thread?
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>>170379868
I got this real quick. Imagine it with everything not zazzed, populated with people, and with a living cat.
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>>170380596
ya but do you have mastiffs
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>>170380220
at max hides it's like an 80% chance at stopping damage, since it either stops no damage or all damage, no inbetween
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>>170380787
>Imagine it with everything not zazzed
I said I was sorry geeze.
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>>170380796
They got laughed off the station for skipping leg day.
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>>170378287
>>170373726
>>170372678
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>>170379040
>>170379214
This shit is why I actually kind of enjoy playing on Vore now and then. They're self-aware enough that they don't get super pissy at light hearted fun poking and they're not all devoted entirely to vore so you can get pretty solid generalized ERP there too
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>>170380878
ya but do you have coats
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>>170379040
>>170378280

the guy who actually own the server is pretty based, even when /vg/ invaded, he kept himself cool
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>>170380592
>they don't find shit on us of course
>we are begrudgingly freed after our explanations, and presumably from other miners corroborating that we had been in contact with them about the death already.
>sec guy and borg leave, stealing our ID's and my headset
>we only get our IDs back because fellow traderbirb runs after him and gets baton'd while begging, as I'm still choking on oxygen and locked in the room without my ID.
>station treats us like garbage the rest of the round, and AI bolts and de-boltlights's the airlocks leading from our shuttle's arrival point at the station
>15 minutes in, and our trader round is already completely ruined
>we never see the third birb again, and I can't muster up the motivation to try doing anything after that fiasco other than some casual botany and growing diona and releasing them to the main station to do whatever.

>>170380707
>I killed the detective outside your trading post on the asteroid

Never saw or heard anything about that.

The miner who died by getting himself gibbed in our shuttle zone was Tahki. Another miner or a scientist saw the gibs inside our shuttle and assumed we had murdered him.
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>>170380787
>people were literally ERPing in the back rooms
Ban when
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>>170376586
casual shitcoders powercreeped nearly everything to max speed
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>>170380787

I could only see the sofa and the piano before my borg got there, this is pretty comfy

Damn shame the cult got wrecked, there was absolutely no signs of it even when bombs wrecked the place up
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>>170380973
Yes, but not quite as huge as those.
>>
>be me
>i am an assistant with a generally dull appearance and usually either a dull or cringeworthy name
>i get valids
>head out into the station to get valids
>disarm spam everyone who comes within 3 tiles of me
>pass by medbay
>dont really know what people do here, but sometimes some of my valids walk out of here even after i valid them
>a guy in a white coat comes up to me and begins a fight by attacking me with small white weapon that beeps
>i escalate properly and toolbox him 15 times in the head
>getting my valids
>heading over to the bar to check for valids
>while im disarm spamming the bartender and stripping his armor so people cant non-antag murder me easily i hear a loud bwoink and something appears in the chatbox
>ignore it entirely, i only read red words in the chat
>the bartender gets up and pushes me over
>escalate the fight properly and screwdriver him in the eyes 35 times
>another valid collected
>my screen freezes and some red text appears in the chatbox so i try to read it
>can't read it, it isnt valids
>know what i have to do in this situation though
>discord PM sawbones the word "valids"
>he replies "valids soon already on it" in red text so i can read it
>able to rejoin afterwards
>head back out into the station to get valids
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>>170381325
wtf is that?
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>>170381325
yes but do we have good ol days after nine eleven
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>>170381390
7/10
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>>170380592
>>170381018

tl;dr traders are completely defenseless from being unjustly raided and treated like total shit on a whim, especially when borgs are involved.

Could we at least have the outpost's doors inaccessible by default to silicons, or something?

Having more than just a thin glass window that miners/scientists can break through to barge in and loot shit and fuck up the atmos would be nice too.
>>
>>170381325

Give war a chance
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>>170381608
No
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>>170380787
Even had a few bedrooms up that hallway. Best ghetto bar I've ever seen.
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>>170381404
A coat that was briefly merged but hated. Currently an all black version is available to HoS
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>>170381941
The all black one isn't much better really
>>
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&p=18761&sid=6c96ae81361e7072c6ad9369bdb866e3#p18761
> My first reaction was to shoot but instead of shooting at him I tried to shoot nearby him so he would drop or something.
>So after shooting my gun I was expecting the guy to drop his.
Has there ever been a more obvious lie in an appeal that badmins believed?
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>>170381608
If you press the button blast doors will cover the windows to the trade floor

Your secvend contains flashes, though taking on a secborg with a flash is a shit proposition for ANYONE since secborgs are obscenely OP.
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>>170380920
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>>170381213
proofs
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>>170382082
Sawbones/Carsalash/Morena

check mate
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>>170382170
no one believes anything morena says
you're right abput the other two though, both got away with metacomms
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>>170382082
Mikecari
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>>170382158
>[14:11:02]SAY: Cyrus Futz/Salamandooo/(Cyrus Futz) (@342,254,1) Deadsay: complains, "william"
>[14:11:06]SAY: Cyrus Futz/Salamandooo/(Cyrus Futz) (@342,254,1) Deadsay: cries, "I'm going to go find out what you said to lyra"
>[14:11:12]SAY: William Zolmer/Lokiamis/(William Zolmer) (@279,211,1) Deadsay: whines, "It was erp"
>[14:11:18]SAY: Lyra/TheMegaGoat/(Lyra) (@274,213,1) Deadsay: mutters, "we did the sex move"
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>>170382082
>Has there ever been a more obvious lie in an appeal that badmins believed?

Yes

>Ban reason:
22:53:36 [0x20256eb] (Fore Port Maintenance - 183,268,1) || the grenade has detonated, containing 100u of water and 100u of potassium - Primed by: Rin Fukuimoto (pootismaniac)
>Detonated a 100 Water/Potass grenade made by Kommandre in Maint, killing and gibbing a crewmember and causing a deppresurisation as a nonantag. Was not online when I investigated. Appeal on the forums to discuss.

>Your side of the story: "I checked his backpack that was full of unlabeled grenades, and i ended up priming one by accident"
>Why you think you should be unbanned: "Becouse it was an honest mistake and i own up to it, and as far as i know, i don't have a server history of blowing up people 4 no raisins."
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>>170381325
yes but do we have roman soldiers
>>
>>170382423
We do

You gotta hack the autolathe, but yeah we do
>>
>>170382423
Yes, using those exact sprites too. They're hugely overpowered
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>>170382508
Autodrobe you dope
>>
>>170382508
>>170382568
>they actually think this
>>
>>170382508
Coin in autodrobe.
>>
You know I don't play here often, I take very long breaks, and I've only played vox trader a few times, but from the general attitudes in game and in the thread, I'm starting to get the strange feeling that some people really intensely dislike the fact that the job and the race itself even exists.

It vaguely feels like I missed some kind of bitter war of two sides for and against the race/job, and the fors won, but the white hot furious hatred and resentment of the againsts lingers on and colors any discussion of the job/race to this day.

How close am I to the reality of it?
>>
>pain bans someone for a flimsy reason because he personally dislikes them
>>
>>170382730
hating on vox is an actual meme that only becomes real if the vox live up to their stereotype of being shitty thieves
>>
>>170382730
It's a meme to hate Vox and kind of adds some flavor to the game with racism and how you're supposed to act, roleplaying and the like

Some people take it seriously because they have autism and can't understand "playing" racist. They go ballistic over all kinds of stuff. It's a relatively small minority though, most people don't have that kind of brain problem and understand the difference between treating Vox like shit for roleplay purposes and actually hating them out of character.
>>
>>170380558
my bad bro. thought nar-sie would like it
>>
>>170382961
They may be the minority, but they are the loudest.
>>
>>170382872
>>170382961
I've never stolen shit and have only been helpful as vox, especially as a vox trader. Goodwill is everything, I figure.

But holy shit do people seem to really love doing round-ruining shit at the slightest excuse or even without an excuse at all, to "roleplay" this oh so flavorful vox hatred.

Hell, i've observed and been a borer for vox that got constantly shit on without justification more than a few times.

It's really out of control, honestly, and I don't really see traders stealing shit wholesale.

Did the worst of the trader thievery shittery happen and then get cracked down on by admins, and people are still butthurt about it, or something?
>>
>>170382756

who did he ban?
>>
>>170382756
>I have been FLOODED with complaints about you in a VERY short amount of time. Complaints and evidence that points to you intentionally spreading drama and misinformation by you. You make EVERYONE uncomfortable EVERYWHERE you go, literally for the sake of DOING IT, and it's progressed to the point now where I can comfortably say you're about as detrimental to this community as Sarca is and still attempts to be, and I have no doubt you will CONTINUE to do so after I apply this ban.

>Lifting Celt's ban on you was clearly not in the best interests of this community. I apply this ban not for your own sake, this time, but literally EVERYONE ELSE'S. Because we had to take your forum account away from you due to your need to endlessly screech and gibber baseless drama everywhere, you are not allowed to even set foot on the forum let alone appeal it without getting permission from Aurx. Honestly just play SS13 somewhere else now.

>With nearly 8000 connections, 8 bans, and 14 notes, all within a year, it's time you pack up and leave

>After speaking to the other admins I have decided this community is better off without you. You're constantly aggressive, you constantly grief and greytide, you are vile to everyone you can get away with being vile to and you're not the kind of player we want around here. This is a mix of a rule 0 and 7 ban and you may appeal in several months
>>
>>170383169
The former is sorta true. A few months back we had a serious problem with birdtiding shitters who ended up job banned for it. Most traders are either space cadets or Chikiwekashiik now, but the wounds still run deep.
>>
>>170383302
Me
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>>170383395
Why did pain write so little in so many words?
>>
>>170383610
Because he uses nonsense to flesh it out and try to make it seem more serious than it is
>>
>tfw denkouz is permabanned still
Thanks a lot for helping xenobio become fun though
>>
mrpain is a troglodyte of the lowest order.
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>>170383736
denokouz did nothing wrong
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>>170383395
Can't wait for them to appeal a d Aurx to unban them again
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>>170383809
they were a petty vindictus asshole who was basicslly the beta version of solarious. trying to police the server to their will despite having no recognized power by using lies, attempted blackmail and manipulation
>>
>>170383972
>[citation needed]
>>
>>170383972
>solarious is alpha version of denkouz

It's accurate
>>
>>170383972
>not being a discord shitter is 'policing the server and ruining /vg/station'

I'm laffin
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>>170384054
maybe you should have actually played the game with them and seen them in deadchat and the likes.
Go to the big ban appeal for the first discord. I'm pretty sure someone posted some of their posts showing how toxic they were.
they were not a nice person
>>
>>170383972
people he almost managed to eliminate
>sawbones
>kolith
>termedclept
>shiggypiggy
>carshlash
things that would have been prevented from happening
>creation of the modern discord
>continuation of sawbones secret metacomms discord
>>
>>170384278
this is truely the worst timeline and Probe is going to keep us here
>>
>>170383420
That sucks. Maybe I should stop trying to play traderbirb and give up on trying to spitball ideas for them until a few more months pass or something. The hostility both in and out of game is too real.
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>>170384219
denkouz was literally just solarious if solarious didn't actually try. they just shittalked people and never attempted to put any merit on their word with proof. at least solarious had the autism to spend days sifting through logs to attempt to do it.
>>170384278
sure, and it would have been nice. if they had actually done anything that denkouz claimed they did. but hey, all the supposed proof they had never surfaced, instead all that arose from the situation was people showing that denkouz just wanted to collect banvalids.
>>
>>170384581
>spend days sifting through logs

Not true, you can pretty much check a week of logs in like an hour
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>>170384784
shh xevonix works really hard when he needs to
it definately takes more than an hour to understand the logs
>>
>>170384841
Xevonix is a janitor at wall mart, he probably lacks efficiency in his actions.
>>
>>170384784
if you know what you're looking for sure. but when you're looking for anything and everything to get the people you metagrudge so hard, gotta out some effort in. doesn't help they also apparently did that on the discords before the search function was implimented.
>>170384974
at least he has a job and is fending for himself
>>
>>170382756
The admins are almost inhuman in their bureaucracy, and zeolotron might be a greyshitter mod through and through, but this hell is infinitely preferred over /aov/'s /b/tier modteam.

>>170382730
Some people are roleplaying a hatred of vox, and some actually hate you for being a trader.
>>
>>170385053
I think people over exaggerated the log diving, it wasn't just doing it randomly to find dirt. They aren't that autistic desu

Discord always had search, ctrl +f is on every site.
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>>170385298
discord only preloads a small number of messages, you can't control f through it all. you'd have to keep scrolling and loading chunks of messages at a time.
they are still pretty autistic, actively metagrudging the same group of people for like 6+ months takes a special brand of 'tism. takes a lot more energy to actively hate someone than to ignore them
>>
>>170361494
he invited avada to the server.
that alone is enough for me to hate him, but he is also a confirmed metacommer, had a horrible note history before making admin, and is a meme loving fuck.
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>>170382083
secborgs are fucking shit most of the time dodge all their taser shots they will inevitably miss and move in for the flash on a target that's easier for you to hit than it is for them to hit you

the odds are literally in your favor if you aren't a shitter that complains about borgs being OP

oh wait sorry
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>>170385547
>>170385547
You can search it all, clicking jump to will load all of the messages in the area
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>>170385674
yes, now you can, but you couldn't 3 months ago.
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>>170385547
They were metagrudged too


Basically everyone involved is an autist, not sure who's the biggest one, the game attracts people like that.
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>>170385578
the worst thing about sawbones is how all the headmins have said seriously that he was a mistake and yet none of them have the guts to just remove his admin and say that. everyone knows he should never have been given admin, and since being one he has caused even more drama than before.
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