/bbg/ ─ Bloodborne General

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PURGE FILTH

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>>170303518

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xth for the moonlight

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I want Doll to hold me the way Maria held onto the guilt she got from Fishing Hamlet until her eventual suicide

is there anything on earth more moe than the doll clapping for you after certain gestures?

protip: there isn't

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Who else will partake?

I just got bloodborne yesterday and I was having a great time until I hit Old Yharnam, then the fun stopped completely. The novelty of a dude shooting at me with a gatling gun was fun at first but then it just become so tedious. I don't understand this area, it just seems BUILT to be as tedious as possible, exploring is horrible because you have to wait like 20 seconds for him to stop firing, to draw aggro of some enemies then run back to cover and fight them, and repeat until everything is dead, the enemies drop very little healing items, which wouldn't be so bad on its own if there was a dude shooting at you making healing off enemies a harder concept, and every time you get shot that's just hp lost with no way to regen it through combat.

To give the best example I can, there is a ladder across from the tower after you cross a bridge under it, I'm trying to get their to hopefully open up a shortcut, so I've killed the hunter in the courtyard and I ran across and hid behind a statue only to notice those annoying ass crow enemies were there, who promptly stunned me out of cover and got me killed by gunfire.

Am I just a shitter? I don't understand why this area is like this.

>>170304042
kek

>>170304243
I don't really have any worthwhile character ideas, but I guess I could do a sinister NG+ playthrough and see how that goes.

>>170304243
I will mostly for invasions

making an arcane build so ill go full rosemarius since I made him named and resemble Adolf

>>170304419
He only shoots for the first 15% of the area, just keep going

>>170304419
>level has an interesting gimmick that puts the player out of their comfort zone and forces them to adapt
>instead of adapting the player gets upset and complains about it on an anonymous image board

You tell me, champ.

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>>170304659
>adapt
>run out
>draw aggro
>run back to safe zone
>kill enemy
>repeat
>interesting

>>170304419
There's a ledge you can jump down to at the very start after the first bridge that lets you skip that entire gunning aids section

>>170304738
>the way i do it must be the only possible way to do it!

>>170304419
You can just run past enemies you know? You can out run the Gatling Gun too. Most of the area is out of sight of the shooting so just kill enemies in those areas.

>>170304919
Are you saying there is a different way to get through the gunning sections that's not going out, drawing aggro, then running back to the safe zone...or?

>>170304243
Me.
>tfw finally have a chance to RP as an insane powder keg, chucking molotives and gunning people down
What would be the best area to invade?

>>170305049
Fight the enemies from behind cover you nimrod. Alternatively, run past the enemies and focus on the gunman. Or, you can play like a pussy and complain when you get caught out. Enjoy your spoodfeed.

>>170305259
Old Yharnam, Burgertown if you want constant action though a Keg in there wouldn't make much sense. Maybe Woods.

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>>170305259
Is this even a question

>>170305271
>Fight the enemies from behind cover you nimrod.
You mean the "safe zone". huh.

>>170305408
>>170305419
I figured that, but I doubt anyone would have a bell lady down there.

>>170305457
Are you even looking at your surroundings? There's plenty of statues, trees and walls to act as fighting ground cover.

>>170305547
You'd see the part in the first post about how in a specific section they're crow enemies there JUST to knock you out of the cover of your surroundings. But beyond that the fact that most enemies in BB seem to be anti stun lock leads them to well..not getting stun locked and attacking in between my attacks, now normally I'd press the range advantage of this whip-cane but considering the specific spot behind these statues I have to sit it's not feasible here.

>>170305520
Well it's a community thing where lots of co-op is involved so I'm sure you'll get plenty of action almost anywhere. Maidens spawn almost anywhere if someone rings their Beckoning/Sinister bells, and part of the event is killing 2 people before progressing.

>>170305867
A better question is what level should I even be for down there? Maybe like 20-25?

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Otogi 2 by FromSoftware:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRw9WyI0ocA
Familar imagery at 1:02

>get summoned to Ludwig via SRRC
>faggot beckoner just waits outside the fog for his buddy

>>170306000
You can't invade people lower than 30. Highest able invade 30s is 43, so try that. You should be able to meet one softcap and have 20-30 Vit, Winter Lanterns gems are good enough unless you went Arcane.

>>170306126
Whoa, bud, tell me what chalice you found Ludwig as a boss in.

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>>170306126
>summoned to Ludwig
>via SRRC

Does anyone want to run through the dlc with me?

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>>170306214
>he doesn't farm Ludwig in Loran for 36.3% nourishings

>>170306349
Yeah, I'm always up for the DLC.

>>170306008
fug

I remember playing a demo of this, was great fun

>>170306423
Alrighty then, pass is bbg. Ringing at first lamp. I might have to take my leave after luddy though, got stuff to take care of.

I just bought this game I played Demon's Souls and Dark Souls

what is the luck/resistance stat
any dogs I should be aware of

>>170307007
Endurance, don't go over 20. Base is enough.

>>170304626
Taking this anons advice and going below and facing the horde of red eye enemies all at once, it really shows how nice the combat system of this game is, the lock on is still kinda iffy for big enemies but works pretty great for a group, the combat system is really just amazing defined, being able to take on a group of enemies in a fluid fashion is just fantastic. Combat is just great, being able to fight without healing items is really nice as well

How long does it take to go from 0 to Yharnam Queen?

>>170307210
Can be done in less than a day if you know what you're doing, like 8 hours or so.

>>170307110
what

really?
What about equip load? Are shields viable?

>>170307310
>What about equip load?
Not present in this game, wear and wield what you want
>Are shields viable?
Only against magic and bullets

>>170307310
No equip load, shields are very situational. Bullets and Blade of Mercy are countered by them, there's only 2 and ones in the DLC. That one blocks elemental damage better, the Wooden Shield is for Phys. Stamina regen and consumption is very forgiving in BB, plus stamina Runes can add like 7-9 levels of End. Even bigger weapons do fine at base as long as you use your best Stamina Rune, which work like rings.

>>170307295
Wew. I meant 0 being 0 chalice progress, not just starting the game by the way.

>>170307440
Ok, I'll leave I don't want to get more spoiled than I already am

>>170307210
With an arc build and some experience you can just cheese your way to her in about 8-25 hours.

>>170307579
Yeah basically that much hours, even less if you've gotten the materials from the base game already. If you're doing them at the end of then game you'll steam roll most of them real quick, it'll probably take 5 hours depending how much you struggle and if you're well equipped.

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>>170307581
Good luck, have a good one

>finally decide to do DLC area
>wow fookin' hoontahs m8
>suddenly manbeasts
>most just vaguely cower and don't attack
>confusedblackman.jpg
>notice that the hoontahs don't really bother you as long as there are manbeasts for them to attack
>sneak up behind for sweet visceral kills
>realize the moral of the story is being a merciful hunter and not letting the bloodlust get to you
this fuckin' game, man

left a note saying
"have mercy, Hunter,
you must accept man-beast"
did i do good?

>>170307793
You did good, anon

Well, that lag was unexpected. Anywho, I think I need to summon you again Segalt.
>Ludwig slightly below half health
>doesn't transition
>confused
>go for a hit, hoping that it would trigger the cutscene
>stomped to death in a corner

>>170308332
Jesus Christ, I'm so sorry about that connection loss. The router got knocked down.
I'll ring again ASAP, m8.

>>170308481
No worries m8, I'll be waiting at the second lamp

>>170308762
Great, I'm ringing too.

>>170308861
Damn I love the pizza cutter with BBP. It was only at +5 doing 500 a hit. Well, thanks for the help Segalt. Sadly, I must depart, so I bid a farewell my friend.

>>170309243
Oh yes, it's a great deal of fun to use against Ludwig. Thanks for having me, m8.

>>170304419
Run, forest, run. Or you like gatling bullets up your ass? Brains, try using them.

4 hours in on my first arc build. I have a +6 fire saw spear with 3 fire gems. Done everything there is to do so far, all quests, all items and all bosses. Even done the first Pthumeru chalice 3 times because the fucker gave me an off-shape. Ive just hit Forbidden Woods lamp now.

Am i making good time? I feel like im wrecking everything.

>>170304243
I've played
>An almost entirely rifle spear character, has 50 skl and high bloodtinge but doesn't use either for other characters
>A str/arc character that uses stake driver, pizza cutter, and hunter tools
>A pure str character I've been using beast claws, kirkhammer, and amy arm on

What should I run as a character for this? Pure BLT or Pure SKL? It seems like those are the only options to play weapons I haven't really before.

>>170310864
Pure skill (+10 blt for Reiter) or arcane with Kos parasite

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>tfw just now realized there is no music for the OoK fight

Is this a good thing? I think the lack of music adds to the atmosphere

>>170311002
You might be deaf.

>>170311000
why not BLT? Are chikage and bloodletter kinda boring?

I wouldn't mind trying to run the game through with blades of mercy and saif, though

I dunno if any of you niggers care, but /tg/ are writing up a Bloodborne pen and paper RPG. On the one hand, /tg/ gets shit done, but on the other, I'm afraid to look because I don't want to see how bad they fucked up the lore.

>>170311127
>why not BLT?
The gem farming will traumatize you forever

New to the game, this masked faggot in the Grand Cathedral is quit literally the most artificial difficulty thing I have ever encountered in a souls game.

>didn't guess my instant gunshot lmao there goes over half your life

What a fucking joke of a design.

>>170310864
Either Pure Blt, 28/50 Str/Blt for big guns or 50/50 Skilltinge.

>>170311187
Bring a shield if you're so worried about getting shot. He's predictable as fuck and easily cheese with poison knives if you lure him down the stairs. Or just git gud and parry.

>>170311175
You could just stick to standard Physical gems you know.

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>make post stating I beat OoK for the first time ever by myself
>no one responds

I just want someone to be proud of me

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>>170312179
Beat him in NG+

>>170312179
Go to Reddit then.

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What is the most effay weapon and attire?

>>170310864
What weapons are even good for pure skl? I'm on my first NG and have done a slight skl build because I'm in love with threddit cane but so far it seems like most weapons are str based. It's actually why I haven't just dumped most of my points into skl.

>>170311542
I'm not gonna look up a fucking cheesing guide on my first time through. This faggot is literally the only thing in this game that has killed me, I have beaten every boss on my first attempt. This feels more like a fucking stat check instead of an actual fight.

>>170312703
Reiterpallasch and Hunter set

>>170312920
Blade of Mercy, Bowblade, Rakuyo, Threaded Cane and Reiterpallasch. Burial Blade, Saif, Saw Spear, Rifle Spear, Church Pick all lean toward Skill but can be used with Heavies on a Strength build with little loss of AR, on a 50/25 Str/Skl they can usually beat a 10/50 build. But 25/50 is optimal for them.

>>170312920
>What weapons are even good for pure skl
Threaded Cane
Burial Blade
Beasthunter Saif
Reiterpallasch
Simon's Bowblade (untricked only)
Blade of Mercy
Rakuyo
Church Pick
All the quality weapons

>>170312990
It kinda is, though the bullets will still hurt at higher levels. Either way, the fight is easy. Getting hit is obviously very punishing.

>>170310593
for early game arc is OP as fuck once you get those fire gems.

>>170311175
it's not like the extra 12% damage or whatever is really that big of a deal. plus it limits you to tricked mode.

>piercing rifle + monocle

AYYYOOOO AYOO

HOL UP

WUZ YOU SAYING

DAT

WE CAN BE SNIPERZ N SHIT!?

>>170312179
I'm proud of you, anon, he's a tough fight

Why do all of the raging autists have female characters?

>>170316249
Answered your own question m8

>captcha: cosmos rembang

>>170316249
People have played many characters, what's the point of not trying characters with different faces genders and looks? I don't think anybody would exclusively use a female character anyway r-right?

>>170316249
Waifufags.

>>170316724
Would anyone exclusively use male characters?

>>170317083
I specifically said female characters because many people just choose the default male character, which is fine, but for people who like creating or using characters, why would you limit yourself like that?

>>170317310
Why would I want to be a boy?

>>170316249
Don't forget cainhurst set/ knight set with crown of illusions, uses skill weapon, doesn't salute you, turbo dodge autist, spams eveline when their 1 shot weapon can't land one single hit, doesn't even react when they kill you, and gets visibly salty and cheesier if you beat them before.

Oh yeah, and dyke haircuts.

>>170314091
It pisses me off that the only way to use the monocle is to waste your item slot

>>170317979
So Lucy?

Does anybody else's PS4 randomly shut down in rest mode? Sometimes I come home and it's still on rest mode. Other times it's not and I get the warning system data check you get whenever you turn it off incorrectly.

>>170317083
Yes, me. Girls are stupid.
Also objectively worse voices.

>>170318759
Homo pls go

>>170318759
>he doesn't like having an at-will cleric beast screech grill

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>>170319489
>He likes girls

Faggot I bet you also kiss them

>>170318327
I'm pretty sure suspended games will eventually close out if you leave it in rest mode too long.

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What is a decent weapon that will actually make you better at the game? After a ton of time using the Burial Blade I found myself playing much better unlocked. I'm looking for something (that isn't a meme like "lol use fists bro") to help me really git gud.

>>170320252
Saif was the first weapon to actually get me to use both forms and transform attacks.

>>170320252
Stale driver, blades of mercy or any other weapon with reallly short range that forces you to get up close.

Stake driver r2's if you wanna start leaening about timing.

>>170320520
>>170320540
Dankeschön anons!

>>170320252
This: >>170320540 plus tricked Kirk since the hitbox can be wonky. Charge attacks help with spacing and timing. Using Bloodletter trick attacks is fun too.

>>170320252
there isn't really such a weapon I don't think. Learning the movesets of each weapon well and knowing how to apply it to a situation can be big though.

say for example the saw spear. untricked is good for upclose damage. tricked has a sweeping attack, good for crow control, but the second tricked R1 swing is overhead, good for hitting tall bosses. The untricked to tricked transform attack hits really hard and has a sweeping motion, so knowing where to use that effectively in your combo to control a crowd or get that last bit of damage in before dodging is important.

All weapons are like this. really only tonitrus is swing 2 win because it has a limited moveset. just make sure you are using weapons to their full extent. remember there are transform attacks, jumping R2's. backstep R1/R2's, running R1/R2's and they almost always vary in how they work between the tricked and untricked mode.

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>>170320904
Thanks for the advice guys!

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Anyone else disappointed they didn't made Laurence's design unique? On one side, he is supposed to have been the very first cleric beast. On the other hand, the straigh up reused cleric beast's model and even left that one nail on his leg.

>>170321272
Yeah. I'm disappointed because his model, his sounds, and the arena where reused. It seems like a lots of effort was put into the DLC except for Lawrence.

>>170321460
Yep. He is not even in the concept art artworks. He was most likely a last minute decision.

some flaseflagging PCuck is trying to be one of us /bbg/ and stir up shitposts in /dsg/

>>170306416
Ludwig drops up to +18.8% rally cursed lethal damp blood gems you beastly idiot

>>170321272
He has a different moveset at least. and to be fair the environment of the nightmare has to be the same since it's supposed to be a terrifying reflection of the waking world.

I have to say the background buildings in the hunters nightmare are my favourite part of the game visually. The way they are all at unnatural angles and it's so dense it looks awesome. Everything is so bright too in comparison to the regular story. They did the same thing for the lead up to the final boss in dark souls 3 and it looks incredible.

>>170323957
Except it doesn't make any fucking sense in DS3

So how much does insight actually affect Frenzy res? I'm getting murdered by a fucking window in nightmare of mensis

>make a new root dungeon
>go to bed, first thing in the morning start playing it
>severl spectres scattered around the place

I'm fairly certain no one has played my dungeons, why would they? Does the game just insert random spectres around the place or something?

>>170324191
A fair bit, but without frenzy resist you will get raped anyway.

grab the frenzy rune from frontier, plus the all resistance rune. equip the best frenzy resist gear you have (even the hunters gear from the start of the game is decent). It makes a huge difference. Should get you around 400 frenzy resist I think and it's not even close to the best.

Savescumming root chalices actually works. Just farmed the mats to be able to make 1 isz, ihyll and loran depth 5 FRC. made all three, saved glyphs, made them open then reset the save. this is great, unlimited spelunking without having to farm fucking bastards of loran or yellow backbone.

>>170321272
At first I was disappointed with Laurence, but after cooping him a hundred times he is now one of my favorite bosses in the game. Every fight with him is such a struggle, and you feel so vindicated when you finally manage to put him down, after he so desperately tried to take you with him in his legless form. The music is really good too.

Cleric beast is an easy boss in comparison, even in NG+ cycles.

>>170324296
People can find it through dungeon searches; it just shows up in a list with a bunch of other recently made and shared glyphs.

Check to see how many messenger icons there are next to your dungeon when you look at it on the ritual altar. Five messengers means its really popular, four means somewhat popular, three means a few people use it, etc.

I like the harrowed set despite the jiggling nutsack on the back

Is it just me or does Reiterpallasch kind of suck? I'm seriously considering just doing a str build on my next hunter

Is there anything special I can do on a Str build to make it more interesting?

>>170326502
farm good striking(?) gems that boost your charge attacks. I think those go >30%. put them on the stake driver and one shot bosses with the charge attack.

beasthood works awesome for strength builds. beast pellets + whirling saw and you can grind bosses into mush. good fun at ludwig.

>>170326748
Nice. I was planning on using the Stake Driver but I didn't know about striking gems. I'll be using those.

So I don't lose my chalices in NG+ right? I want to finish the game and farm for FRC gems now.
Do the chalice enemies and bosses go into a NG+ mode?

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>micolash was chained up
What's it mean? isn't he the one responsible for all this? who chained him up?

>>170327869
No and no. You're better off doing chalices in NG+, just make sure you get the red jelly and living string before going into NG+.

How often does Item discovery drops better loot, how far should I push up the arcrane stat?

>>170328406
Item discovery helps quite a bit, but don't put even a single point into Arcane. You have a bunch of runes for this, Arcane would just be a waste.
You're not playing an Arcane build are you?

>>170328406
15/18 for non-Arc builds, 50-99 for Arc builds. Don't level Arc just for Item Discovery, that's just a bonus. Eye Runes are enough.

>>170328697
Nah first time playing bloodborne period.

>>170328805
Keep it at either base, base requirements for weapons that fit in your build, or 15/18 for a few Hunter Tools.

>>170321272
>fight him
>oh haha its just a cleric beast but he's on fire, gg
>he loses his leg
>floor is literally lava
>die like 30 times

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

>>170329014
Right now it's at 8 would a 7 or 10 point increase make that big of a change?

>>170328339
I have the Living String, but where do I get the Red Jelly?

>>170329102
For hunter tools I forgot to add and another question, why does the guy with the bag take so much health away.

>>170329102
For Item Discovery not much. If you're a Strength build, 10 opens up a weapon from the main game and 14 opens up one from the DLC. Hunter Tools are spells, 15 let's you use all of the non-scaling ones while 18 opens up a useful one for parrying. They aren't necessary but can occasionally be useful, so it depends.

>>170329270
so you can die to him and go to another level and rescue the best waifu

>>170329270
To take you somewhere secret. You're kind of expected to die to him.

what's the max soul level everybody is shooting for these days?

>>170329241
From the Lecture Hall lamp, go towards the end of the big corridor, to the door that leads to the Nightmare Frontier. I believe if you take a right before that door there's a chest with red jelly in it.

>>170329419
43 for Twink meta, 80-120 universal/FC meta, 98-117 here, 150 for Reddit shitters.

>>170329534
>150 for Reddit shitters.
>implying anything over 98 isn't a shitter

>>170329534
I still don't understand the 150, or even 120 for that matter. around 105 is plenty for any sort of build, any further and you just start multiclassing. A 150 build is two 98's rolled into one it's stupid.

>>170329741
That's the point. They're shitters.

>>170329741
150 was made since Reddit thinks Defense gained from leveling matters and 40 End is a requirement. Both are obviously negligible. 120 started from Souls so it carried on here.

Anybody need any help for any non-chalice bosses? I need to get some vermin.

>>170326273
Reiter is one of the worst, if not THE worst, skill weapons, at least in pve. Just use Cane until you get to the DLC weapons or BoM or whatever you want to use.

Okay so I'm doing the old hunters for the first time on NG plus. Should I cave and call other hunters for Kos and try to solo him alone on a normal game? Or keep going and do it on NG+?

>>170331997
I'd do a new game solo. You could try farming the Winter Lanterns nearby for decent gems, they should be enough for Orphan as long as you've got a Str, Skl or Blt at 50.

>>170331997
make a savescum before you first fight him, then use up 600 vials and die 60 times learning his moves. Once you finally figure out how to beat him, load up your savescum and get all your vials back and do it in a couple tries

i'm at lvl 62 atm, with 35 vit, 33 str, should i continue to grow this 2 or should i try to pick skl which already at 20?

>>170332826
Aim for 40-50 Vit, 50 Strength and 25 Skill.

>>170332826
50 VIT isn't a bad idea, and offensive stats hardcap at 50.

>>170332826
Get Skl to 25 then stop. Level Vit to 40 and then pump Str to 50.

>>170332887
>>170332887
welp, i intend to leave vit just like that, allright then m8, gonna take that to consider

I'm 100% certain that the game inserts spectres into chalice. I just made a root dungeon, enteed and cleared layer one then went to the dream and repaired my stuff and went straight back in. in the main area of layer 2 was already 5 spectres, in an area with only ayylmaos. I don't buy it.

>>170332987
After getting 50/25 Str/Skl you have 7 points to dump into other shit if you want to stick to /bbg/ meta. Get yourself to 40 Vit then put the other 2 points into End or Vit.

>>170333128
nah those were other people exploring your dungeon. They just found it through random quick search

Does it usually take long to find people using chalice quick search for co-op and invading?

>>170333313
There's just no way, even if they joined the moment I made it. I fucking hooked it through that dungeon and yet 5 people still did it faster than me, yet died to a shitty mob?

>>170333401
Not really, but you're gonna get a lot of Lower Pthumeru Rom and not much else.

>>170333458
Why's that?

>>170333458
Only if you're level 98. Go a little higher and the Rom summons mostly go away.

I can usually kill him before he teleports even one time anyway, as long as the host isn't retarded and we coordinate our attacks

>>170333516
Retarded scrubs.

>>170333516
depends what level you are, but 70-80 you get trash summons to dungeons people really don't need help with and summons just for the boss fight which is usually rom or amy.

100ish and you get summoned to loran constantly, even more than cursed pthumerian. someitimes you get ihyll.

on all of them you rarely ever get FRC which is the most fun and actually poses a challenge even with a group.

>>170333605
How unfortunate.

>>170333596
For the first time I see a good reason to level a bit higher than I normally do, huh.

>>170333698
120+ but aus internet so that might have a shit time to it.

>>170334023
That wont affect how slow it is to find someone, just how laggy the connection is.

>>170333605
Is chalice Rom significantly harder or something? I didn't really have much trouble with vanilla Rom

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>invade in frontier
>host is an arc build spamming acb on spawn in
>they run when they start to lose
>they hide behind gravestones to block bullets when they want to heal which they do frequently
>if their gimmick tricks don't work they pull out the arc saw and 3shot you
>assume they're just going through the level and give them the benefit of the doubt
>invade again
>they're waiting for more invaders at the spawn

>>170334320
He just has a crappy cramped arena to fight him in

Well just did Kos with a partner in two attempts on NG+. Jolly cooperation is sure fun. Would play again.

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>>170334360
>gimmicks don't work
>they pull out a saw

>>170317083
who the fuck does not want magnificent beard and dumbledore eyeglasses

fucking finally. let that be a lesson to the other pthumerian descendants out there, no one beats m3 12 times in a row and gets away with it.

>>170334360
If he's 3shotting you with an Arc Saw, he's not just going through the level. Not that you don't know that now.

>>170321272
at least fight is good an second phase is awesome.

>>170328185
yes he actually has rings in his wrists connected to chair, i think he did it himself to force him sit there and dream.

>Grab co-operator at byrgenwyrth
>[name] has arrived
>2 seconds
>[name] has died
Oh come on

Anyone up for some Laurence coop? I'm using the password and waiting.

>>170334361
did anyone else feel kind of bad attacking rom?

or is there some sekrit lore that basically confirms it's 100% organic evil

>>170335007
I was that guy once. Got summoned in I think Lower Pthumeru, the one with that stupid shitty stream of unending spiders. Was barely holding my own and the summoning distracted me so I walked into a trap and got killed.

>the co-operator you have summoned to help you ruin a boss because you're fucking shit has waved to you as he spawned
>you ignore him and enter the fog gate and when they gesture again after beating the fight for you, you go over and light the lamp and pretend they're not there
I will never understand. If you're going to shit on a boss by summoning, why not be polite and make it a fun multiplayer experience for both of you?

>>170335513
Rom is a windowlicking retard, but she was holding back the Mensis ritual for the most part.

>>170335513
rom was for some reason shielding everyone from seeing the blood moon nightmare of moon presence. it doesn't attack you when you first encounter her. rom was also once a human who succeeded in becoming a great one, so they clearly would have some ulterior motive we cannot comprehend. SO yeah I sort of feel bad, what we have indicates rom was friendly. but you can't know that for sure.

>>170335595
if people don't acknowledge when I enter as a summons I leave. it's rude.

>>170335809
My headcanon is the she was half-assing it or it was only delaying things and thus still a reason for the Moon to want Rom killed and create an opening to Mergo.

>>170335906
>coming up with headcanons instead of admitting that Good Hunter is MP's dumb puppet that does a bunch of stupid shit that made things worse for Yharnam

Although freeing Orphan and other people stuck in the Nightmare seems like a genuinely good thing, at least

>>170335128
Anyone? I just bought PS+ and would like to coop at least one dlc boss.

>>170336191
whats the password?

>>170336191
I'll help if you're still ringing

Whats a good weapon to convert to Bolt on an ARC build? Currently running a Saif but i'm not entirely sold on the moveset yet

>>170336145
Considering how shit Yharnam was even with Rom around, it's pretty clear she wasn't blocking the nightmare 100%. And I doubt Mergo was anywhere near the height of his true power.

>>170336525
Anything, most people choose Saif for the moveset. Something serrated would be good too for Hotdog and Laurence.

>>170336494
>>170336506
/bbg/

Still ringing

>>170336525
for the most part you can convert any weapon to elemental damage and it will work well. sap some cold abyssals on as well as a decent bolt triangle and off you go.

I like the threaded cane to use like an electric whip. or using the pizza cutter like an electrified chainsaw

>>170336587
Lamp or fog?

>>170336659
Fog

>>170336587
ringing now

>>170336714
Ringing

crazy idea. can you get offshapes radials and the like as circles? Is there a way to get an offshape circle so your gun scales with say ARC and does bolt damage? or would it be shit damage even with a perfect offshape?

>>170336586
>>170336641
I already have a Fire Spear&ARCane so i guess i'll try out a Bolt Cleaver.
How's the Tonitrus on High ARC?

>>170336789
It's possible but you can't convert Blood damage.

>>170336794
boring and strong and with no durability whatsoever basically just used to rape ebby-chan and ayylmao-prime

>>170336794
Destroys everything, especially Kin.

>>170336716
>>170336768
Nothing, you guys set to worldwide?

>>170336794
It's good, the Bolt is a bit less than a converted weapon but the added Blunt damage can be useful, especially with BB Pellets. The moveset is ass though.

executioners drool
vilebloods rule

Still rining at laurence

>>170336864
that sucks. on one of my characters I have a circle with flat bolt damage I think it iwas, only 10 or so. Maybe you could get a flat arcane 72.5 as an offshape, I wonder how that would scale with BMA

>>170336878
>>170336882
>>170336930
Thanks for the tips, i'll keep it in storage for when i have spare upgrade mats then.

>>170336940
League or gtfo

>>170336906
Yeah, you can try reseting your console.

>>170336978
Okay

>>170336906
worldwide bbg

any chance you are using bloodletter? I keep seeing a white phantom with it.

>>170337024
Yeah I am, standing on the circular tile.

>>170337024
It's "/bbg/", not just bbg.

>>170337063
i can see you then we will be together soon bb

>>170337024
Nope, am using Rakuyo.

>>170337083
fucken wut why did you put slashes in to confuse us

ringing now with your trick password

>>170337108
Forgot to mention, I'm the other summon

One of you got summoned, waiting for the other guy

>>170337083
No wonder, didn't think the slashes were possible to use. Ringing with the right pass

Thanks guys, that was surprisingly fast. Nothing like doing Orphan and Maria solo.

Was that NG or NG+ /bbg/ anon?

>>170337421
No prob ;)

>>170337278
>>170337446
See you during the global reset on the 10th(?), I used /bbg/ because I thought that's what everyone was using for it.

>>170337441
NG

>>170337562
Probably, might do a bit of Twinking to bully/help in early levels. Most people just do bbg without slashes.

Anyone want to join me through forbidden woods? Ill be taking my time picking up all the loot so be patient please.
Pass is: hoont
BL 47

>>170338773
I would but all my characters have endgame gear and gems. Even with level scaling it's no fun when I just shitstomp everything.

>>170338818
I dont mind. This is my millionth playthrough anyway, Im just building characters now.
You could always take 2 gems off, i find that balances out an endgame character.

If I follow the f/r/c speedrun path fom the OP, will I eventually come close/across the Yharnam Queen or is the path to her a different one?

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>>170339254
yeah you'll find her. no waifu though

>>170335809
>>170335906
except she was hiding the mensis ritual, and there is never any indication that she is stopping it. did you guys even play the game?

source:"The Byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals, and keeps our lost master from us. A terrible shame. It makes my head shudder uncontrollably."

>>170339254
yes, theres no choice
she's a lesbian though so she wont fuck you

>tfw no king yharnam
sexist gooks

>>170304243
Why though? The game is pretty active anyway.

>>170340394
Only a female can birth a great one anon, men can only become great ones/something like them(3rd ending).
And seeing as King Yharnam was king of a civilization that masturbated over Great Ones i dont think he was very worthy.

>>170337142
is rakuyo good? what build u using it with?

How do I get screenshots off my PS4 onto a computer? I want to do a sort of CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER! thing for people who request co-op when im done with all my builds.

>>170340638
but it's invasion heaven

>>170340898
plug in usb, go to share capture gallery, upload. usb needs to be fat32. I think exfat works too.

How strong is the hunter lore wise compared to DeS/DkS protag?

>>170340317
I took that note as her blocking it rather than just hiding it. The line about "keeping their lost master" from them made me think of her preventing it more than anything. And the immediate rise of the blood moon after her death also.

>>170340758
Not that guy, but Rakuyo is great and it's a pure skill weapon. Respectable damage, quick, varied moveset. On a pure SKL build it loses to BoM in terms of damage a little, but compensates with better reach and hitboxes. It doesn't work as well with abyssals as hybrid weapons like the Saif, so it's a weapon for 50 SKL builds.

>>170341237
DeS protag fights demons. Strong demons, but nothing insane relatively speaking.

DaS protag fights demi-gods, ancient rulers of the world.

Hunter fights creatures that transcend mortal understanding, they are a higher form of being.

It's definitely between hunter and the chosen undead, but I think the great ones in BB have more of an abstract strength, vs dragons and some Zeus guy throwing lighting bolts. Great ones can warp reality to create nightmares and drag whoever they please into it. The hunter rolls around beating the shit out of great ones, but I don't think it's ever confirmed if you are actually killing them, or just shattering the realities they create. So it's hard to say, but I'd lean more towards the Hunter when you consider that. Given ingame feats though I'd say the Chosen Undead. The magic is stronger and more high fantasy plus weapons are absurdly huge and powerful.

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>tfw just had a livid bloodborne drea,
>this time it was some chalice dungeon
>sort of a unique design, looked like an abandoned mine, possibly influenced by hintertomb chalice description
>it was a series of large and open, pitch dark rooms with two floors each
>lower part if filled with peasants and hemwick witches spamming paralyze on you
>the other consists of wooden scaffolding with at least 2-3 ritekeepers shitting out fireballes at you
>these kind of rooms were connected by extremely narrow hallways that either had a snatcher or a brainsucker
>they almost completely blocked the way around them, so you had to kill whatever was in the first room in order not to get gangbanged
>the lever guardian was a madman with some more ritekeepers backing it up
I felt so stressed when I woke up, was sweating and shit. Curiously enough, I also remember that I've found an uncanny streak diner and a lost amy arm on that level.

>>170341680
I'm fairly certain the chosen undead is a lot tankier than The Hunter, but how do you think he'd fair against guns?

>>170341680
Personally i'd place them at
Ashen One>=Good Hunter=Chosen Undead>Slayer of Demons>=Bearer of the Curse

>>170340758
50 SKL (also lets me use cane and BoM)
30 blood (Evelyn and Bowblade)
15 ARC for quickening and beast roar

My VIT is under 40, but I like the sense of danger it adds to a speedy build.

I prefer to use the Rakuyo's trick R1/R2 over the spin2win L2. Feels more agile and saves my stamina.

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>reach ladder shortcut to iosefska's clinic
>message reading "reminiscent of snake" at the foot of the ladder.

Well played.

>>170341680
>The hunter rolls around beating the shit out of great ones
I was considering which Great Ones the Hunter actually defeated and want to point out that you an only lay your hands on them in the Nightmares/Dreams. You beat up an Amygdala while you can't even scratch the ones in Yharnam. You beat up Orphan in the Nightmare, who is some sort of construct of Orphan's own disembodied essence and Gehrman. And of course you beat up Moon Presence in the Dream, but only if you're on your way to become a Great One yourself. Otherwise it's not even a fight.

So I'd say we never get to see actual power of the Great Ones. As you said, it is unclear whether they die and what does "death" even mean to them, and we only go toe to toe with them in the Nightmares, which they seem to mold themselves, so who knows how much it means to them.

>>170342212
I think it's possible you're not even really beating the Moon Presence, but being tested for adoption. A replacement for MP's original child.

>>170341930
In a straight up fight, I'd favour the hunter. They are specialists at gotta go fast and they've got guns. they should be able to run circles around a souled up undead swinging a 10ft long sword. but the undead can also no sell blows from 100ft tall monsters with their shield. Hard to say again I suppose.

>>170342473
You have to wonder how magic like Tranquil Walk, Vow of Silence and Great Magic Barrier would affect a Hunter's abilities. And don't forget that quicksilver's specialised on those with some relation to Great Ones thanks to the old blood. Much like how beasts no sell regular bulllets, an Undead might treat quicksilver as particularly soft bullets with a poison effect from the Mercury used.

>>170342060
I don't get it?

every once in a while I come across a note with tons of appraisals that I don't understand and it makes me feel weird/

>>170341638
in any way will you recomended for str build to make this their second weapon? sinc i'm already too deep in my str build which 35 and skill only 25

>>170342745
There's a part in Metal Gear Solid 3 where you have to climb a rediculously long ladder. The protag in that game is codenamed "Snake."

>>170342745
sneks and ladders

>>170342820
Too late with all those points in STR. You could go for a semi-quality build and +9 a Ludwig as a backup.

>>170342820
Not really. There are a lot of good STR weapons, and a lot of hybrid weapons that work much better converted.

I am a big fan of all pure SKL weapons, so I would recommend to simply leave it for your next character and give SKL a go. 25/50 STR/SKL gives you a very good selection of weapons to choose from, too.

>>170342820
Rakuyo will be pretty weak on a Strength build compared to Pure Skill, but it should still somewhat be usable. 50/25 Str/Skl and a Heavy Abyssal will be required, Rakuyo has 0 Str scaling so you're gonna have to add scaling yourself. If you've never done Chalice Dungeons, then you're gonna have to start getting use to them if you really wanna use Rakuyo on a Strength build.

>>170342960
too be fair ludwig already my weapon since this is my firsttime and doesnt want to risk shit, but getting tired of this ludwig and thinking to search for a replacement for it, thus i'm asking the rakuyo any recomendation weapon for the str build?

>>170343119
Beast Cutter, jumping trick R2 has surprising reach. Just be careful as it's trick moves tend to be easy to parry in pvp.

>>170343274
The tricked R2s also drain copious amounts of stamina.

>>170343382
It's all about situational use, obviously. But the reach on it makes using it for PvE pretty good as long as you've got room.

Can someone help me rek logarius? Pass is: bbg02

>>170343979
NG or NG+?

>>170344115
Regular NG. Im doing a pure arc build and im doing fuck all damage to him. Just want him gone asap. Im level 48.

>>170344190
Coming, lemme just boot up my ps4

>>170344190
Sorry about that, my lag was so bad. He'd teleport from my parries and backstabs

>>170344315
Guess you caught me savescumming. Damn cutscenes.
Right, im just spending my 120k echos so i dont have to keep loading up. Be ringing in a sec.

>>170344568
>trying to parry and backstab as a PVE summon

Why do you even bother? It's extremely unreliable

>>170344964
Force of habit just beat Orphan yesterday. And I actually did manage it once or twice during the fight.

>>170344568
Big thanks m8. That was a good fight. Sorry about the lag too i have shit tier interwebs.

>>170345095
NP. I also overestimated how much the level scaling would affect me.

t . BL120

>>170345226
>>170338773
Also my request. You can come along if you want? Woods is a little boring on my own.

>>170345467
i'll come along, you ringing at the lamp?

>>170345697
Yeah, with the password hoont. Thanks.

>>170338773
>>170345697
I'm omw too.

>>170345467
I'm coming too

>>170345824
>accidently warped to forbidden grave
HECK

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>>170320252
>Rare Choir
Saved

>tfw not getting summoned

>>170321272
I'm probably the only one who isn't disappointed by Laurence, Cleric Beast is such a great and iconic design that I feel making it the first boss was a waste. At least we get to fight one that's actually strong in the DLC.

>>170346231
Oh I forgot there is a limit on only two human cooperators, this sucks.

>>170341865
Cool. I wish the tunnels were more narrow and claustrophobic.
The only time I dreamed about Bloodborne was before I played the game.
I dreamed that at the beginning of the game there's a cutscene where the hunter is transported to Yharnam on a carriage with horses, under the rain.
It looked a lot like the Cainhurst intro sequence, I wonder if it was shown in one of the early trailers.

>Cant hit abhorrent beast beggar
Goddammit, at least i could bodyblock

Aaah Gos sum sey Gosm
grand us ais no grnad us benis
bland benis in bagina to maeg seegs :D

>>170346567
That shocked me too. I swear I wasn't trying to troll summoner.

arcfag here. Big thanks to you both. Again that was a lot of fun.

Nightmare frontier next if you wanna join?

>>170347276
Sure i'm up for that

>>170347276
I'm gonna go eat first. I'll ask later if you're still around.

>>170347327
Be there in a sec.

>spawn in
>session lost

Does the defense you gain from clothes make a difference, or does it not matter?

>Rock out of nowhere oneshots
I'm sorry man

>>170348224
It doesn't really matter, just wear what you like

>>170342212
Ebrietas?

>>170348331
Im still ringing.

>>170348586
Yeah i started ringing again as soon as i spawned back in. it should work out fine

>>170348586
Okay, arcfag here again.

Just spending my echos then ill ring again near the lantern. Elevator shortcut is open so we can go straight to amy.

>>170348385
Didn't she somehow fail to ascend? Which is why she is the only great one we fight in the waking world.

>>170348224

don't listen to this >>170348362 doofus

clothing matters. it can mean the difference between getting oneshot and surviving with 20% hp. don't rely on clothing to make up for shitty dodges or wreckless behaviour, but know it can help.

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S-so are those slug things at upper cathedral ward kids from the orphanage?

>>170349069
No, they were taken from Isz.

>>170348958
she got "left behind" whatever that means

>>170348958
Ebrietas was a Great One since birth

>>170348807
I feel bad, we went all that way for amy to last all of 20 seconds. RIP.

Arc builds are OP.

>>170349069
I thought they were the same kind of thing as the whore's baby

>>170349262
Damn shame really, need any further help or are you good for now?

>>170349069
>The Orphanage, shadowed by the Grand Cathedral, was a place of scholarship and experimentation, where young orphans became potent unseen thinkers for the Healing Church.
The members of the Choir are the kids from the Orphanage.

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>>170349365
Oh.
What are they, then?

>>170346956
Oh yez oh yez eh hunder yez eh hunder ebin ind eh dreeb, bud alaz nod Doo fazd . . . De nidemare swirl n churnz unendig

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>>170346956
>>170349541

>>170349490
Slugs from space

I really wish they had handled the chalice stuff differently. There's just too fucking much of it

>>170349805
I actually really like chalice. The root chalices anyway.

Whats the best build for the HLMS tricked mode? I remember seing someone here with over 850 AR with it.

Should I farm chunks from the chalice doggos or the blue eye werewolves?

>frontier bell maiden doesn't respawn
fuck me

>>170349352
Will do later. My doc is due to arrive shortly so i don't know how long Ill be yet. Could be around 2 hours though.
Regardless, Ill be doing some chalices next. Up to you if you wanna do some spleunking.

>>170349069
They might have been human babies turned into creatures, maybe birthed via fuckery, maybe just taken from Isz. But they are indeed why it's called the Orphanage.

Whatever they are, they are baby Ebrietas'. Notice how every single one of them is pointing in the same direction - the Grand Cathedral. They're pointing towards Ebrietas. Maybe they're pointing towards mommy, who knows.

>>170350058
50 STR / 50 SKL / 50 ARC for maximum power

if you want to stay lower level, do 25 / 25 / 50 or 25 / 12 / 50

>>170350968
>But they are indeed why it's called the Orphanage
No, the Choir itself is why it's called Orphanage since that's where the Church raised them

How come Arianna's kin child is so pathetically weak? Isn't it a Great One? A child of Oeden, like Mergo?

>>170351172
Because it's a newborn

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>>170351268
that's no excuse

>>170351452
OoK wasn't a newborn though, it was a stillborn.
IIRC it doesn't even qualify as a Kin by game mechanics, so it's an anathema.

>>170351452
Orphan isn't a Newborn, he's been in his mother's womb for decades

>>170351598
What would Freud say about that?

>>170351639
Mercy for the poor wizened child

Is it just me or is Maria super fucking edgy?
>Just sitting at the top of a tower in a chair
>"A corpse should be left alone"
>Flashstep
>Double not-katanas
>Blood magic
>BloodFIRE magic
>Each time she powers up by stabbing herself
>Even her weapon says she got disgusted by by it and threw it in a well (probably in a 'oh woe is me!' way)
Like jesus fucking christ this is some coldsteel the edgehog levels of character design.

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>>170351976
>that word again

>>170352079
Your waifu is shit. You're going to have to just deal with that.

>>170352161
>edgy = shit

>>170352223
Find me something that'd edgy but not shit and I'll show you jack shit, Maria's the edgelord of bloodborne.

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>>170352161
>waifu

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>>170352291

>>170352291
Pontiff.

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>>170303636
This very well done!

>>170352340
Fair enough. Maria's still shit because she lacks the silliness KlK had. She's just a shit character and an edgelord.
>>170352305
She's someone's waifu.

>>170352364
Assuming you mean the one in DaS3 I haven't played it yet so I can't say whether or not you're bullshitting me.

>>170351976
There's a fine line between tragedy and edge, and each must find it for himself.

>>170312703
>Hunter's Garb (The Grey one, not the Yharnam Hunter set)
>Top Hat
>Glasses
>Reiterpallasch or Threaded Cane

>>170352601
>>170352601
I haven't seen any tragedy yet, just some woman who tries too hard to be cooler than she is, swings around blood-swords/bloodfire-swords, and follows the fighting logic of a bad anime. Makes shoving a fistful of tentacles into her even more satisfying.

>>170349235
>>170348385
Ebrietas is kin. Kin bonuses apply to her. She's not a Great One.

>try to beat orphan of kos last night
>I only get him to his second phase twice when the day before I was consistently getting him to atleast 25% health
>say fuck it and ring the beckoning bell for some help
>first attempt doesn't summon anybody until I already traversed the fog
>it distracts me and I die
>try again and summon the same hunter
>about to walk in the arena when a second chime is found
>I now have two confederate hunters by my side to kill this fucking asshole
>completely wrecking OoK
>I'm mostly doing running attacks since I'm not putting out the damage they are, so I just stick hitting from behind and trying to get backstabs
>I go for one and the orphan turns away from the two hunters and fucks me up that slam attack of his
>it staggers me
>I can't dodge fast enough
>he hits me again
>fucking dead
>turn the game off

I get so embarrassed when shit like that happens. I don't understand how I almost beat the guy solo on multiple occasions but then after that I turn into an even bigger shitter and I can't even get him to the last stage. goddamn this game

>>170352889
She's kin because she's the "daughter" of the Cosmos. Kin and Great One aren't mutually exclusive.
She's referred to as Great One in many item description, even in the trophy.

>>170352828
Putting aside the fact that you appear to suck at lore, confidence is not "trying to look cool". She has one last secret to keep, one thing to protect, and she is going to crush you under her heel until you give up.

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>>170352971
I'm currently also at OoK. Never beat him before, just bought the Old Hunters a couple weeks ago.

He's super fucking hard, and on any given run I do not expect to beat him, I just hold out hope that one of these times I'll get lucky and scrape by.

Really it's one of those bosses where unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of every frame of his moveset, you're gonna get shredded. Practice is the only solution. I've gone up against him like 20+ times now and I'm definitely better at him than I was the first few times. That second phase though, man. Jesus Christ.

>>170352519
>I can't say whether or not you're bullshitting me.
He's an evil crown-wearing pope dualwielding UGS with a regular greatsword with flandere twig wings and a Stand, also responsible for 70% of things that went wrong in the game, so judge for yourself.
But enough of DaS3, people might get upset.

>>170353062
Rom is also referred to as a Great One, despite being uplifted in some manner.

>As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes.

It seems to work somethibg along the lines of a born Great One is only referred to as a Great One, while an ascended mortal (Rom, PC, Ayymisarry) are Kin as Well as great ones, possibly with another tier of just kin for beings fucked with by the great ones without being uplifted.

Anyone up for some Ailing Loran coop?

Pass is bbg, I'll be waiting.

>>170353484
Kin doesn't necessarily imply "previously human", the term itself only implies "affinity", most likely with the cosmos
Creatures that were certainly not human, like the flower centipede also count as kin

>>170352971
Nothing quite as embarrassing as getting derped as a beckoner...

>>170353484
ebby is the daughter of the cosmos. what is the cosmos though? kin are called "kin of the cosmos" so some great ones are kin, but not all kin are great ones.

I don't really know what to make of that though. the cosmos is implied to be some higher power or concept above even great ones.

>>170353801
Note I said "mortal", not human. Working off of "kin" meaning "family", you could consider an ascended (kin) great one "adopted", and normal kin as family in the same manner as man and ape. Working off of "kin" as an "akin", kin great ones become "made like" the great ones, while normal kin are "akin" to the great ones, i.e. of the cosmos.