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BUSYBODY, LEAVE THE OLD THREAD BE! >>170033651

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/

/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
Every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules: a.pomf.cat/jzmnvh.jpg

/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password=/bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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kos>kosm
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>>170171626
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The doll is mine.
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>>170171867
What about Maria?
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P-post hoontas?
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>>170172667
I would, but my hoontah only looks good from like two angles
Great fashion, though. Always love seeing ya
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So, for the people who did NG+:

Do enemies drop better gems? Like that Executioner in Central Yharnam, he drops Tempering Blood Gems (1) in NG. Does he drop higher tiers on NG+? I'm not looking for those insane FRC gems, just slightly better than what NG has to offer.
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>>170172842
Nope. Gems are the same throughout all NG's.
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>>170172756
>my hoontah only looks good from like two angles
Why though?
Also post at least those two.
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So there is a sinister lower loran in the spreadsheet, glyph is 4i5efewz and for some reason don't meet its requirements. On the spreadsheet none of the boxes for FRC have an X in it and I already made a sinister lower loran. Is there anything I forgot to meet the requirements?
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>>170172842
Nope. One of the biggest disappointments of NG+ desu.

Depth 5 FRC gems > Hamlet Winter Lantern gems > Mensis Winter Lantern gems > normal game gems
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>>170172624
You can have her
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>>170172667
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>>170172756
That's usually the case when having the face exposed. From faces, you know.
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>>170172667
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>>170173110
I think only Gehrman wanted Maria, everyone else just made fun of her
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>>170173234
>WELCOME TO THE CHOIR, SON
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What did she mean by this?
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>>170172667
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>>170173214
Not necessarily. I have an old dude character who looks pretty cool, almost like what I tried to do. Then I have a young female character and I was irritated with the huge beak of a nose the standard version had and ended up with a neanderthal-looking retard bitch.
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>>170173234
>>170173727
Jesse we have to hoont.
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>>170173751
I know what you mean. I've found it easier to make old, grizzled looking characters than younger ones.
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250 hours into the game and I only just realized that blood bullets + Choir Bell allows you to get a full heal for the measly cost of 2 bullets.
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>>170173650
>old woman thinks you're her child
>old woman has a bunch of sedatives on hand
>sedatives are described as being mostly made of thick human blood
>killing her nets the voice clip "It's... your father's blood..."
Seems pretty clear to me. Old lady slaughtered her hubby (or maybe he just died of old age or maybe Yharnam burial rites are just that fucked up) and canned his blood in case of insanity
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>>170174641
IF your Arc stat is decent. At bare minimum-to-use-it Arc but very high Vit I imagine it doesn't heal all that much. But yes, you can convert bullets to healing with it, which is pretty cool.
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Segalt, thx for helping me with Ityhl yesterday. always appreciate the assistance
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>>170171996
On weapons that already have good arcane scaling, cold abyssals are not as valuable. On Ludwig's Holy Blade, for example, one cold abyssal, a 27.2% and a 23.1% radial from a BAH is only 5 AR worse than having two cold abyssals with the 27.2%

Kos Parasite does better with percent gems if you have 50 arcane or under
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Ahh
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Bless this machine.
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>>170175764
This is a good thing
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All our favorite memes, in one convenient location!
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For the imgur
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>>170176068
I want to churn this Micololi's nightmare.
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How do I go about making an arcane build? Im trying to use kos parasite
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>>170176425
Check the ssjnugget imgur in the OP.
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>>170176415
Can a kind drawfag please make a BB version of pic related? Maybe make the bird Patches, or a messenger? Whatever you see fit?

Add them all, good machine. They're all worthy of it.
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Any meme, provided it's BB related
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>>170172967
bls resbond
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>>170176483
Thanks, im a dumbass and didn't even check op
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>>170176538
I think the whole idea is wrong.
Memes are memes because they stick with you. As long as they're being reposted here, they're relevant and deserve to live. The worse ones fall into obscurity.
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>>170176764
I'm the first person you quoted and that's exactly what I said: LHB is only about 5 AR better with the second cold abyssal. You're better off using a percentage gem for it and saving the second cold abyssal for a weapon with poor arc scaling that actually needs it
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>>170175370
>On weapons that already have good arcane scaling, cold abyssals are not as valuable.
>>170171996
>Pretty sure the best combo for damage is still 2 Colds and 1 +% elemental damage, regardless of the initial scaling.
>>170171216
>Yeah, there's that. But think about it, if something already has an A scaling, you only need one Cold gem and can use the other two slots for more interesting stuff.

Just weighing in on this. Anything under a natural A scaling (meaning, I think, everything except LHB), benefits more from two Colds.And LHB only just barely gets more out of a second damage gem.
Go figure the moment I delete the post to fix it someone replies
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speaking of cold abyssals, I just got one from a random SRRC boss coop vs Ithyll Elder, woot
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>>170176910
>thinking thats the case
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>>170177096
>LHB is only about 5 AR better with the second cold abyssal. You're better off using a percentage gem for it and saving the second cold abyssal for a weapon with poor arc scaling that actually needs it
I'd agree if it wasn't so much easier to get Cold Abyssals than elemental Abyssals. I mean, if you have one then obviously you might as well, but if I was starting from scratch I'd just put two Colds in the thing.
Then again I don't even use an LHB. I got and +10'd that one just now to make the webm.
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>>170177483
gj friendo, hopefully its curse wasnt too bad
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My experience with isz
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One last thing, If more people like >>170176910 dont like the idea of having an imgur for this stuff then i'll delet it. I'll also be adding other stuff so it won't just be memes. So yeah, if you don't think the imgur is a good idea say so
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Test
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>>170178431
Delete that shit you faggot. You're supposed to lurk and collect those pics.
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>>170177852
Only +1.5% stam down! I love how they have half curses and full effects. The only bad curses on cold abyssals are 4% ATK down (of course) and 5% beasts down (but still not that bad). Even HP drain is fine because you can totally offset it with a pulsing gem in your gun.

>>170177802
Eh, I've come across a lot of percentage gems in my time helping with cursed SRRC bosses (especially defiled hotdog), farming bone ash hunters, and migrating dungeons to fight Elder - even though I never look for them specifically. And two cold abyssals per weapon is a lot of cold abyssals when you have every weapon converted.

I tend to use two percent gems (one Watchers 25-27% triangle and one scrap 22-24.8% waning/radial) with a single cold abyssal for every weapon except my general purpose/PVP one, where I have two colds. I usually just switch weapons based on what enemy I am fighting
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>>170178649
>And two cold abyssals per weapon is a lot of cold abyssals when you have every weapon converted
You're telling me.

>I tend to use two percent gems (one Watchers 25-27% triangle and one scrap 22-24.8% waning/radial) with a single cold abyssal for every weapon except my general purpose/PVP one
You're losing some damage but not much. On most weapons a CA is worth about a 25-6% gem. But what's <2% of a weapon's AR? Not much.
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Does anyone want to run through the dlc with me? Pass is bbg. BL is 53
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>>170179301
Sure, I've got an hour to spare m8.
At the first lamp, right?
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>>170179403
Yup, will be waiting
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Does the Eye Rune stack? that is, if I have two equipped will that improve my odds?
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>>170179590
yes they stack
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cant for the love of god beat laurence on ng++
i found a cooperator yesterday only for me to die in a sweep for getting greedy
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>17 Strength
>+3 Hunter's Axe
>Fire Paper
>two handed
>do barely any damage to Blood Starved Beast (124 I think)

Is this normal? Seems like the boss was optional since it was a dead end but are there more bosses in BB that are damage sponges? The other bosses I fought so far actually took damage when I hit them.
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>>170179590
yeah, it all adds to your "Discovery" stat, which determines the odds that an enemy will drop no item, bullets or vials or some shit, or whether they drop something rare like a blood gem. If they do drop a gem, discovery has no effect on what that gem will be.
You dont really need it to be that high when farming dungeons; usually just having the Eye 3 rune equipped (+100 discovery) is enough to make most enemies like bone ash hunters drop gems most of the time. Maybe if you have no arcane stat you might need the Eye 2 rune (+70 discovery) from the brain of mensis as well.
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>>170179882
Maybe it's durability low? I noticed that weapons lose a decent chunk of damage when at risk.
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>>170180008
No, it was at 200/250 I checked that too. Even had a 2,1% extra damage gem inside.
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>>170179882
>are there more bosses in BB that are damage sponges?
Yeah man. Most of them. BB's a pretty shitty game.

>>170180086
>2,1%
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Ewwwwww
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>>170179882
That's normal I think. Once you gitgud you'll be faster and use openings more efficiently so your damage output will get higher.
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>>170180086
Thats a bit odd, but I guess that's just how things are then. I killed him with steak diner, this is my first playthrough as well.
>are there more bosses in BB that are damage sponges?
Some Chalice bosses. They're optional though.
Amelia I guess qualifies too because she can heal, but it's interruptable.
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>>170179590
Sweet Shalquoir
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>>170179673
Would you like some help?
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Well, that fight was beyond trivial
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>>170180439
>>170180484

I see. It was actually pretty hard to get hits in because of how good From is at making hit/hurtboxes. But partially also from me overestimating my range.
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>tfw farming for Ritual Blood (5) and Tomb Mold (5)

this shit is so boring
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>>170180882
Just buy that shit.
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>>170180842
Poor guy.
Research Hall next?
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>>170180853
Yeah man, it's all From's fault. Why couldn't they just program BSB to sit still and die in two hits right?
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>>170181049
Yup. It seems that the fight went way faster because I started to chuck oil urns at the poor guy. But do you mind ringing by the two hunters? Might take me a while since I'm under gemmed
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>>170181214
Did I just steal your elevator cutscene?
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I just went into the OoK blind, lord have mercy. this is going to be fun. I got a visceral on him then he killed me in the most wild fucking fashion. he is so unexpectedly strong
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>>170179164
What are your stats for your character with those weapons?

I too have an arc build (well, 50 arc) but I have 25 STR / 25 SKL for split damage weapons, and my burial blade does 597 total AR with the same three 27% phys gems
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So is the default "reality" part of the dreamverse as well? Judging by the bell descriptions, there is a massive amount of worlds similar to ours equal to the number of bb copies sold.
What is "the waking world"? Is that just a nickname for our world or is it completely separate from dreams and nightmares?
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>>170181753
WoS: 44/9/18/20/7/50
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>>170180803
id live to, but wont be home til next weekend
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>>170179590
Does your cat ever tell you that she has a scent she's quite fond of?
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>>170181934
>Is that just a nickname for our world
Depends on who you're asking,
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>>170181575
I...don't know. Sadly, last fight, I never got to hear my favorite part of the ost.
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Hey, guys! I want to play, guess what, BLOODBORNE. Is a PS4 slim enough to have a Silky & Smooth experience, or I'll need a ps4 pro?
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>>170182764
Sorry to hear, m8. I guess the fight ended a bit too quickly.
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>>170182952
Are you ringing my friend? Seems to be taking longer than usual
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>>170183227
Yeah, did you initiate the fight with Lady Maria? Or, maybe it doesn't let you ring period until you do that. Your bell isn't crossed out?
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Ive came up empty on ten straight runs looking for Tomb Mold (5). I have TWO god damn Eye runes equipped. Im finally dropping this game, I dont know why it always has to be such a fucking troll. Thank fucking Christ Nier is coming out this week.
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>>170183427
Dude you can BUY that shit in NG+
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>>170183349
I already initiated the fight. Let me just move a bit closer to the lantern
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>>170183427
I'm pretty sure that you can buy that shit at the insight bath and that you are retarded.
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What arethe chances of offshape gems drops?
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>>170183559

Im still in NG
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Holy hell, whoever claimed that the Hintertombs are worthless was a fucking tool. I never knew the last layer of Lower Hintertombs sells you Lost and Uncanny DLC weapons, plus the boss fight was awesome.
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>>170183694
Do you have braindamage?
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>>170182947
Regular and slim are just fine, PSPro matters not
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>>170183694
Then go into NG+ rather dropping the game entirely, you fucking retard.
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>>170183628
Somewhere around 1 and 2%.
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>>170183694
Chalice progress does not reset upon game cycle change. You can rush the story, go NG+ and just buy the (5) materials
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>>170183903
Thanks, good compeer.
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>>170183926
>>170184003

I have never beaten the game, I dont want to rush it.
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>>170183701
Hintertombs are worth it for the Madman Set, but not much past that. The gems get outclassed by other dungeons, and it's exactly the same design as Pthumeru. If there were Depth 5 Hintertombs with a different coloring, I wouldn't have a problem.
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>>170184142
Then its doubly so better to wait with the chalices that require (5) material, the gems that you'll find could make the main story trivial, and you'll lose out on the experience of an actual fight instead of just stomping bosses with chalice gems
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>>170184142
What the fuck?
You said you were dropping the game though. You would rather not play at all instead of completing it normally?
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>>170184142
Mate, if you're currently farming Tomb Mould (5), then you're far, far stronger than necessary to beat the game. All three final bosses are pushovers compared to Depth 3 dungeon bosses.
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I forgot about the grab attack. Oops
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>just had my longest invasion at burgertown where I completely drained host and his downscaled buttbuddy of vials
Fireball flowers are such bros, holy shit.
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>>170183701
>I never knew the last layer of Lower Hintertombs sells you Lost and Uncanny DLC weapons
Like the standard version? Neat, i mean there's a depth 1 pthu glyph for that but still a neat find
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>>170184179
the madman set has low stats though
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>>170184429
Yup, bog-standard, not Root.
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>>170184575
But it's the Madman Set
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>>170181620
he's fucking awesome, isn't he?
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>>170184575
Fashion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stats
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I'm a big fan of scythes but a quick look at the wiki showed that you can only get two of them after finishing the main story, one in NG+ and one in the DLC. Is there anything else or can I really not find a scythe in a game that was made for them? I want to be the grim reaper, fuck.
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anybody feel like going thru Ithyl FRC with me?
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I am constantly getting summoned into ailing loran and lower loran abhorrent beast stages because all these stupid hosts are dead-set on clearing out those red-spider traps for their woeful reward of 4 QS bullets or some ritual blood (4). Those stupid rooms are twice as hard as abhorrent beast himself.

I think there is a similar curiosity-trap before the ailing loran Blood-Starved Beast stage. Might even be one before Loran Darkbeast. It's always in the bonus room right before the boss, so that your cooping with the person through the whole level was all for nothing because they never made it to the boss.
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>>170185212
You literally just mentioned the fact that the games have two scythes(If you consider Church pick a scythe), what more do you want?
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Is there a way for me to join random bobos online who are facing bosses? I know you usually have a password you have to match, but I thought there was a way I could just go to a boss area and help randos
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Well, that was fun. Thanks for dropping by Segalt.
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>>170185616
Ring the bell?
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>>170185616
Yep, just ring without a password near the fog gate and you'll pick up some randoms. Make sure you're conscious of your BL, though. Certain areas get more activity around certain ranges. ~100 is great for the DLC, and SRRC is always active.
>>170185647
Cheers, m8. That was a beautiful Orphan fight.
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>>170185212
Okay, let's clear this up. The actual scythe, called the Burial Blade, is pretty much the second-to-last weapon you'll acquire in the main game. You get it for defeating a boss who can potentially be the final boss, so you might only get to use it in NG+, but you can trigger the events necessary to unlock an additional final boss. In that case you can kill the dude who gives you access to the Burial Blade, then let the boss after murder you and bam, you can now do the DLC with your fucking awesome new scythe.

There are two more weapons you could call scythes in the DLC. One is the Church Pick, which is sort of a scythe, but also sort of a stake on a stick. It can be acquired about halfway through the DLC, with the DLC technically available after the third boss, but going there right after unlocking it will get you killed.

Then there's the Amygdalan Arm, which is a living limb that looks very scythe-like when extended. If you are exceedingly brave, it is possible to get this as soon as you unlock the DLC, but only if you know EXACTLY where you're going.

That said, all three are perfectly usable weapons and NG+ is a perfectly valid option. It's just not going to be the weapon you'll use for most of your first playthrough.
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>>170185212
You absolutely do not have to go into NG+, just use the OP links to find the Uncanny and Lost versions of the Burial Blade in the chalice dungeons, there you go.
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>>170185774

feel like helping a brudda out m8?>>170185248

pw is shaka, we always have a good time
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>>170185992
whats the point
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>>170186391
Not him, but I'll drop by for a bit
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>>170186391
Yeah, let's do it m8. I'll SRRC into the first layer and then try to run it with you every layer thereafter. It usually cuts down on connection time.
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>>170186540
>>170186592

ringing at L1 now
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>>170185565
I meant Burial Blade and Beasthunter Saif.
>>170186123
I see, I'll have a look at those other weapons you mentioned as well. Thanks.
>>170186141
That's also good advice.

I usually just make entirely new characters in Souls game if I want to go for another playthrough, would you recommend NG+ for Bloodborne? Main reason is just that I want to do different builds and a new story coupled with my character.
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>>170186643
Nice, I'm SRRCing
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>>170186664
>Beasthunter Saif.
Lol no way, it's more like a saw-cleaver that's actually fun to use.
You'll want the Burial Blade.
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>>170185992
I'm always returned.
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>>170186643
If the other friend isn't there yet, and you don't mind exiting the chalice, would you mind sharing the glyph? SRRC isn't very reliable.
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>>170186846
Alright. Looking into Chalice dungeons now but I also read how someone chimped out earlier in this thread because he tried farming Tomb Mold and now I see I need those too. I literally just started this game, will this be a lot of trouble to get?
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>>170186643
It's taking quite a bit to join
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>>170184846
hard but yes, he's actually really fun to fight.

can I get some tips though? I've only gotten to his second phase once on 5 attempts, and that didn't last long at all.
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>>170187058

yeah ill get it soon

>>170187135

im Fortutida, restarting my Ps4. hate when this shit happens
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>>170187228
If it's an FRC you made on your own, make sure to share the chalice that way we can connect, and then just post the glyph here.
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>>170187112
You should get enough materials if you explore the dungeons.
It becomes a pain in later playthroughs when your only motivation for doing the dungeons is to get gems.
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>>170187228
I might have to leave after layer 1, since I have to go somewhere. But I will be back if you are up for more spelunking
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>>170187348

its Shared now. Glyph is x6ztqmsi
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>>170187375
okay, nice.
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on his second phase stay on HIS right, you should be able to dodge pretty easy by stepping to his back

fight on the water, you can evade the lightning easily these
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>>170187528
>>170187146
meant to quote you

also don't get discouraged, i died 50+ times on ng++, he's ridiculous
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>>170187457
Thanks. I'm ringing on layer 1 now.
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>>170179882
>>170180439
>>170180853

If you're new to Bloodborne I'll give you a protip : you're supposed to do visceral attacks on bosses to take a chunk of their health at a time. BSB in the first and second phase has pretty good tells for when they're good to parry (when they're winding their arm back).

The bad side is that if you miss the visceral, BSB's tard rage may very well end up killing you. If all else fails, retreat to the back of the room where the big altar is and ring around the rosie it and occasionally give it a wack around the corner.

This is also a good cheese strat for Gascoigne when he puts on his murrsuit and tries to yiff you : just ring around the rosie around the big gravestone and take swings at him around corners.
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>>170187905
I do parries/viscerals frequently so for BSB I only had like 7 bullets left. Then I managed to parry it once and still did pitiful damage, so I just didn't use them anymore.
I probably used like 15 bullets on Gascoigne, I didn't feel like parrying him is cheesy, especially since he is one of the first bosses and a good fight to learn parrying.
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>>170187146
I find it much easier to stay locked on to him the whole fight, except when he is summoning lightning. Then you should unlock and watch Kos' corpse for the lightning waves coming out of it. Don't get too greedy with hitting him or he will smack you back before you know it. I find there is no specific way you should dodge him every time; you should dodge towards / into his swings if you don't have time or space to dodge out of the way, and dodge away if he is doing a phase-1 close range tantrum (or if you have room and are unsure of the timing/spacing). Just keep your eyes on his weapon and dodge "lazily" - the more antsy you get, the more likely you are to panic dodge and take massive counter damage. Dodge to the sides when he does that underhanded attack or throws pink ball(s) at you, and for most of his attacks where he throws himself at you in phase 2. When he charges up that double 360-degree attack in phase 1, I usually just back away because the damage is too tremendous if I fuck up the dodge.

Attack him when he is exhausted after doing a combo at you, and keep hitting a few more times if you managed to make him flinch. It takes him a while to turn to face you when he just finished attacking, and you can sometimes hit him 2-3 times as he turns before he immediately strikes back.

When he jumps in the air in phase 2 after grabbing some pink shit and then throws three exploding pink balls at the ground that expand outwards, just stand underneath where he jumped and charge an R2 on him for when he lands.

Mostly, just don't be greedy and don't panic dodge. Be prepared to dodge out of the way after every time you hit him. That means manage your stamina.

>>170185212
you can pick it up the version you want (uncanny) before in a non-FRC Lower Loran root dungeon, using this glyph: kkqmduet

it's in the first bonus area. You've gotta beat up to Loran Darkbeast to get that glyph working though.
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Well, it seems that I must leave for now. It was fun, Segalt and Fortituda. Have fun on the rest of the journey
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>>170188619

thanks dude. Segalt, Im ringing again
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>>170171626
If their blood properties combined that wpuld probably be the strongest blood in the game
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>>170171492
Rate my new character lads
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>>170188619
Cheers, man. It was a great time playing with you for those two minutes before I went and got myself deleted by a Madman.
Hope we can all spelunk together sometime, m8.
>>170188741
Neat, I'm on layer 2 ringing as well
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>>170188932
But what about other worlds mentioned in the bell descriptins? Are they part of the waking world or the dream world?
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>>170189036

Lolz, me and Wheelbro couldnt beat Undead Giant. Can i still get to layer 2?
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>>170189029
>another lol look how abhorrent character

Maybe you should try to make an actually good looking face.
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>>170189145
My bad, I'll go ring back at layer 1, m8. You won't be able to keep going till you get him.
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>>170189145
>>170188619
Wait what's goin on? What password and what are we doin?
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>>170189272

pw is shaka. trying to go thru FRC Ithyl. Im host, ringing at Layer 1
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>>170189240
I've done that multiple times. Just thought I'd make a retarded one for a change.
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>twice in a row FRC Undeed Giants opening jump autotracks and OHKOs me

God this game is fun! Sorry Segalt
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>>170189854
My sides have ascended, m8. I died to the same thing the very first time I took him on in this FRC.
This Undead Giant is absolutely relentless.
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>>170189140
It's very possibly that just going into the fucking sky brings you into the Nightmare. Everything could be connected, no matter how tangentially. I do think the waking world (our world, the world Yharnam is in) and the Nightmare are totally different places, but honestly, maybe you just have to go out far enough in the right place with the right item and the veil is opened to a totality of nature that encompasses everything. Nature on Earth and nature on an alien world look different, but it's all Nature, regardless of where you are, the laws of the universe by which the vagaries of life operate.

The other worlds might just straight up be parallel universes where things happened ever so slightly differently, according to how each player does their thing. Just potentially endless layers of incredibly similar universes (being copies of BB sold).

All we know the sky and cosmos are one.
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>>170190057

jesus christ, I dont even know what to do. I literally cant avoid it
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>>170190651
Well he finally went down. It's sudden when he opens with the jumping attack, but slightly delaying your roll usually helps to avoid a counter hit.
At least we know there won't be another Undead Giant boss to deal with in this FRC.
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What's the most fun weapon?
I'd personally have to give it to the threaded cane, that thing is so fun to use, but it's not really that great.
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>>170191310
blades of mercy
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>>170191310
Definitely the Rakuyo. Call it overrated shitter bait all you want, but there is something really satisfying about the way the tricked version can chain attacks together. You feel like you're playing a crazy fighting game when wielding it.
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"Maria do you hear something?"
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>>170191827
"HELLO LADY MARIA, IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP"
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fuck undead giants, they are some of the hardest bosses in the game and for all the wrong reasons.

Changing the subject, I just killed my beckoner in random SRRC by dragging an enemy to him because I he was AFK in front of the boss door for almost 5 minutes while I tried to get his attention. It's funny and I never feel bad about it because you shouldn't waste everyone's time by beckoning while you're afk
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>>170191827
also an actually cool screenshot
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jesus fuck, this Ityhl FRC dungeon does NOT mess around
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Did NG+ make anyone else realize how short the game actually is

I'm no speedrunner and I'm not even good at the game but in like an hour and a half at most I went from Iosefka's Clinic to fighting The One Reborn. Once you know where all the enemies are and which bosses are optional it's crazy how quickly you can just run past everything.
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What are the common levels to be at in this game aside from 98?
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>>170191964
Undead giant is fine once you play patiently, still fucking cancer, but bearable.
Abhorrent beast on the other hand is the most annoying fucking shit ever.
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>>170192398
98™
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>>170192398
I play to 108, just to be at the middle of our supposed "meta."
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>>170191310
the most fun weapons are the heavy ones that can pancake enemies and deal "massive" impact damage. It's always great to see an enemy go flying, or to stun a huge enemy out of an incoming massive attack because your attack is just as strong. Sending a huge scary motherfucker like Pthumerian Descendent flying with your churck pick or untricked moonlight sword's charged R2 followup is so satisfying.

I never can get that same feeling out of using the lighter weapons like the rakuyo or the cane. Sometimes it's hard to even see what weapon someone is using when it is something small like rakuyo or BoM and all you can see is their back. That's not stylish at all
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>>170191310
what about the amygdala arm? that weapon is so cool but it seems to be ignored. you literally have the limb of a great one as a weapon and it's alive too. that's cool as shit
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>>170191964
>throw a couple of poison knives at the undead giant
>wait for it to die
SO HARD.
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>>170191310
I just love the Amy Arm, it's a big nonsense monster arm you swing around like a maniac, BIG stomps, WIDE slashy swing, pancake fuckers and it hits THREE times.
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>>170192532
Enjoying your unga bunga weapons much? Some people like combos, a varied move set and style. Let me guess, you main Leo in Guilty Gear and Urien in SFV? LEL, low IQ scrub.
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>>170192779
The Amy arm's moveset is amazing. The untricked charged R2 drives it into the ground, and then the R2 followup pulls it out so hard that it launches enemies straight upwards in the air. Then the transform attack from tricked to untricked takes forever, but it pancakes enemies so hard if it connects. And the tricked charged R2 has those two awesome claw followup hits if you keep holding R2, and hits around you / behind you a little bit when you are swinging it normally. Transform attack from untricked to tricked is fast as fuck, and the tricked version has range. Meanwhile the animations for the untricked R1 combo look and sound fucking awesome, like you are pulverizing your enemy into oblivion.

AND it has pretty decent rally. Really awesome weapon that I totally overlooked at first
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>>170192862
>Boss is too hard for me to engage so I have to throw knives and run like a bitch
>lol hes not hard xDD git gud
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Currently having a blast with amy arm. Side/backstep attacks have really deceptive range and as well as incredibly wide attack arc. The untricked charged R2s are also perfect bait material, and you can also animation cancel the tricked regular R2 to throw people off. Also solid PvE stunlock potential and great Rally regen.
It's also a mummified hand of a mi-go on steroids.
My only complaint would be the fact that 3rd and 4th R1s are vertical and not horisontal, so you can't just swing away at a horde of enemies, be they players or mobs. Well, that, and the fact that as I'm told it doesn't work on a STR/ARC build despite being pefectly appropriate thematically.
It really is just my first character and I haven't tried other builds yet, but I feel like I'm in love.
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>>170193636
Is it just me or the graveguard hood looks a bit phallic?
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>>170193068
Away with you, dexfag
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You good to go for Layer 3 Segalt? these stupid faggot red spiders keep attacking me when I linger near the bell
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>>170193068
Small weapons movesets just all kind of look the same unless you actually watch carefully the player swinging it. "Unga bunga" big weapons grab your attention when you aren't even watching because the attacks and their impacts look so impressive. The jump attacks from weapons like the saif or the rakuyo look pathetic compared to the awesome jump attacks from big heavy hitters the LHB / HMLS / bloodletter / boom hammer / wheel etc.
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>>170193983
Looks like a KKK hood honestly

Pointy things existed before dicks existed
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>>170194185
I'd say the Butcher Mask rivals it for KKK-style hood.
On that subject, are there any head pieces that go well with the Butcher's Garb without the Mask itself?
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>>170194125
Yep, sorry for the delay. I kept getting point-blank charged by Maneater Boar like a clown.
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>>170193068
But unga bunga weapons in BB have fast untricked movesets.
If anything, they have more variety of moves on the merit of that.
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>just realized I missed two blood rocks because I thought them getting replaced by great one wisdom also happened to story rocks
JUST
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>>170192141
Didn't really take NG+ for me, just a new character. The second time around you know where to go, what to upgrade and generally how not to suck dick at the game and suddenly you realize it's about the same length as The Last of Us

>>170192398
If you want to PvP, 98 and 117 respectively. If you don't give a damn about the online features, then whenever you decide your character is finished.
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>>170194410
Yahar'gul helm, both versions
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>>170194412
That maneater boar charge is really hard to dodge for some reason. I always fight the boar w/ the camera unlocked, and even if I iframe the charge with a roll, the boar will often "catch" me anyway and carry me (w/ no damage) into a wall, where it one-shots me from full HP. Assuming you are fighting it in the long hallway arena with columns (I never see it anywhere else) - in the first 1/4th of the arena on the side of the entrance, there are two corners in the wall you can use to hide from the boar's initial charge attack. Once you dodge the charge, if you just stand to the side of its legs - almost in danger of being kicked by them - and the pig cant touch you for the rest of the fight

>>170192141
Nothing wrong with a game being speed-runnable. That doesn't mean it's really short; just that a lot of the content is skippable or optional. A true "short game" would be like where you can finish it and do all the content in ~5 hours
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>>170194410
Anything brutal and/or silly, so everything except hats in my opinion. Graveguard mask, yahargul helmet, golden ardeo, mensis crown, etc.
>>170195535
I really dislike the hooded version because it has that weird thing protruding from the collar area, which looks like a piece of cloth but has physical properties of plastic. I dunno, triggers my autism.
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>>170196172
Try the one without the hood
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>>170191827
>>170192021
WAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
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>>170195928
this is why I have the ailing loran dungeon as my main farm area, I don't get as much but it's easy and I don't have to deal with the fucking pigs. that dodge is hit or miss for me too.
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>>170195928
In smaller arenas, I usually sprint straight to it and close the distance to avoid baiting the initial charge. Gets a bit more troublesome in the longer arenas where the tracking can snag you well. Most of what I die to, though, is this thing it does where it breaks into a charge attack immediately after taking a visceral attack.
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>>170194535
This. I actually think the "boring ass" hunter's axe has one of the coolest looking movesets in the entire game. It looks like a barbarian axe, but you wield it and apply leverage to the swings like a kung fu master. And the moveset is so versatile. NO weapon is better at killing amygdala from the front / on the ground
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>>170194410
I wore the master's iron helmet for a long time with it.
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>>170196421
Don't even bother with viscerals. If you stand behind and to the side of their hind leg with the camera unlocked, they literally cannot hit you unless you accidentally walk into their head-swing attack or their kick (less likely). You just whittle them down with regular attacks and make sure they don't get you stuck against the wall or columns so you can always dodge their bodyslam.
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Segalt, gonna take like an hour long break. gotta shower and try jumping my car.
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>>170196857
Alright, m8. I have to head out and do something, and hopefully I'll be back by the time you're ready again.
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>>170196450
That's some really nice fashion anon, and hoontas axe is definitely an underappreciated weapon. I guess there is some stigma against it because of all charged R2 babies, but it might also be a great way to make your opponent underestimate you.
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>>170196830
Why would you not bother with Viscerals? As soon as the first one lands, it's dead, period. Until it manages to stand up, your charge attack is done charging, you hit it, it staggers, you fist it, repeat until its dead.
I'd rather do that instead of a drawn-out fight I might lose halfway through.
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Google doc guy here. Anything you lot want added to it I have an hour or two to burn
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>>170197160
>>170196450
Damn I just realized its a full harrowed set save for gloves maybe, I'm fucking retarded.
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>>170197160
>really nice fashion
Can you explain what you find appealing in that harrowed piece chest set? Genuinely interested.
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I'd wear the Harrowed set much more often if it didn't have the dumb backpack
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>>170198184
I like the ballsack on the back and the way it jiggles.
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>>170198332
What would Freud say about that.
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>>170198332
I have good news for you my friend.
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>>170198280
Need to keep up the appearance of a corner beggar
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>>170197654
>As soon as the first one lands, it's dead, period.
Are we still talking about the FRC dungeon boss version? Because unless you're an overleveled skill / quality build with three clawmark runes and three max thrust gems, one visceral wont come close to killing a depth 5 FRC maneater boar.

But hell I've been playing an arc build for the past month so maybe I'm just used to doing things without viscerals
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Just sifting through Bloodborne lore:

>thanks to the School of Mensis, we know that "stillbirth of the brain" is an actual, literal thing that can happen to you in the Bloodborne verse if you gain too much Insight
>gaining Insight means lining your brain with eyes
>Willem wanted to ascend his thoughts to the plane of the Great Ones
>Willem is just a vegetable when you do finally meet him who can barely raise his staff and point vaguely towards the lake while moaning
>the Brain of Mensis is a Great One that is basically a rotten brain lined with eyes
>there is no mention where exactly the School of Mensis found the Brain

Could it be that Willem's brain went walkabouts and became a Great One without the rest of him? Am I grasping at straws here? Or is this incredibly obvious and I'm a moron for just now realizing it?
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>>170198805
No, you won't kill it. But you can lock it in an endless cycle of backstab-->visceral-->backstab as soon as that first backstab connects, and that cycle will eventually kill it as it cannot break out
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>>170199093
Not the anon you're talking to, but if I recall, the FRC one can kick you in the mouth after the visceral if you try to do a chain
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>>170198889
Willem has something growing out of the back of his head and neck, it's possible he ascended to a degree. I wouldn't say that his brain became the Brain of Mensis, the scholars found it in the Nightmare, but he almost certainly ascended.
His Insight reached the point he looked up in the sky and saw the face of Miyazaki gazing back at him. This is why he wears the Blindfold Cap.
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>tfw you will never ascend to the slug paradise
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>>170199263
>Willem has something growing out of the back of his head and neck, it's possible he ascended to a degree
I always just thought those were mushrooms, to illustrate how fucking long he's been sitting there
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>>170199476
IIRC it's some weird FROM design thing. Same things can be found on vagrants in DaS1 or on Oceiros' back in 3.
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>>170199263
>he almost certainly ascended
To a retarded paralitic? Willem clearly failed ascension
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>>170197767
Please put the Pthumeru Ithyll glyph " bigkr99w " at the top of the list for cold abyssal farming dungeons, or otherwise make a note to indicate that it is significantly faster and easier to use for farming than any of the other cold abyssal glyphs listed.

The Elder is only on layer 3 (in the other glyphs he is either on L4 or his lever is protected by a roaming Pthumerian Descendant boss), while the L1 and L2 bosses are just Keeper and Beast possessed soul. And the hardest part is just layer 2, where you've got a buffed fatty roller guarding the lever with a bunch of pthumerians. But you can just kill the pthumerians and lure a nearby beast possessed soul to fight the fatty roller as you pull the lever. Works every time.

Also no hemwick witches or hunters on the main trail
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I thought this was interesting. Did you know a boss in the new Legend of Zelda game has the same shrieks as the Cleric Beast.
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>>170199693
In Bloodborne is specifically used on Kin, Great Ones and Great One-related places.
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>>170198280
I have never killed a single thing farming CFR dungeons, just run past everything.
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>>170199907
I recognized that some of the witch-ladies in Hemwick (the ones that acted like huntsmen) will make idle screams that were just stock scream sound effect. I'd first heard the screams while running over pedestrians in Carmageddon 2: Carpocalypse Now. Gave me a good chuckle
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http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSy95hbGiBmI&start1=0&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DICSk8-pJkX8&start2=13&authorName=Cleric+Beast+VA
Probably the same voice actor.
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>>170185992
I never left
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>>170200437
kek
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Does anyone want to help me rush beast claws? Going to be ringing in old yharnam soon.
Pass: bbg
Order is going like this:
Old yharnam->Vicar->Amy->pthumeru chalices->ailing loran layer 1
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>>170185992
feel like it woulda been cooler to have a password set for this event
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>>170201497
Booting up my PS4. I've also been drinking again, so I apologize beforehand for questionable plays.
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>>170201497
wouldnt you need to beat Amy for the loran chalice?!
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>>170201991
Read the post again m8
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>>170197767
There's an FRC Ihyll glyph somewhere in the docs stating that a 32.6% Adept gem can be found in a chest on layer 3 or 4, but that's not possible.
It's here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
Glyph is f8qvzarj
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>>170201497
I'll come, just say the word and I'll be ringing.
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the poor wizened child is about to receive mercy
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>>170201497
I've been playing around with the beast rune and claws and man, it's fun as hell. really makes the all of the other bullshit worth it
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Ringing at old yharnam, hope I'll get summoned.
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Alright m8s, start ringing your bells, my character is finally at old yharnam. Just give me a sec, gotta go to the dream to get a firearm and bell
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>>170197009

u back m8? im done with my shit
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>>170203073
Neat, I'll start ringing at the same place.
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Amy arm anon, I'll be waiting by the short cut. I seem to have lost you.
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>>170200437
GRANT ME SIDES
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>>170203489
Yeah sorry, I sperged out and lost you.
Ringing at Chapel lamp?
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>>170203987
It seems that I might have to pause for a second, I'm starving so I'm going to grab a bite real quick
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>>170203073
Give me a moment to beat HBLB, and I'll meet you on layer 4.
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>>170204074
Bone a petite, anon.
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>>170204109

Wait, there is a Layer 4? There isnt anywhere for me to go after the lamp
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sweet jesus the bloodletters moveset is amazing
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Anyone else play with no HUD on? I do it even in multiplayer to prevent burn-in / image retention on my plasma TV, and it's really not as hard to play with as you would think. It gives you a real natural feeling for what your character is capable of in terms of how much damage you can take/deal and you stamina capabilities. The worst part is switching between quick items. The extra immersion is really cool though
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>>170204540
My bad. The dungeon must have ended on that layer, then.
Hope you got a good gem out of HBLB, though.
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>>170204564
I wish it could do a standing overhead attack on-command, for high-up enemies like Amygdala. The axe and burial blade have it beat there. Instead you just have running / jumping attacks and your R1 combo after you do two non-vertical swings
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>>170202418
well goddamn I've never been so wrong about anything in my fucking life
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Anybody wanna run thru another Ityhl FRC? Im fucking addicted after getting some good gems
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>>170205583
Sure, I'm down. Sorry old yharnam anon, whenever you read this.
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>>170205864
Anyways, I'm still waiting for the beast claw anon at cathedral ward.
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>>170205864

sweet, going to exdy2m2t

pw is shaka. starting af first layer
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Any tips on that electric skeletal beast, it's literally ripping me a new asshole. I'm level 25 if it matters.
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>>170205864
Just read this, it's okay m8. I'll just be running through the path I posted earlier If you want to join in later
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>>170206265
It's the end boss, how did you end up there so early? You need to be at least lvl 80 or higher to have a chance at beating it.
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>>170206554
What's even the point of this bait?
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>>170206265
use the tricked mode on your weapon and stay under or behind the beast as best as you can, aiming for his legs. eventually you'll stagger him and hell be open for a visceral or you can keep hitting him with power shots that'll send him crumbling to ground, leaving him very vulnerable for more heavy attacks. repeat this and you'll beat him soon enough.

if you're able to do it, buying henryks armor from the insight shop will give a good boost in bolt defense so you won't get mauled as bad
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>>170206265
Don't listen to >>170206554
BL25 is a bit on the low side, but make sure you play unlocked. The best way to do it is to target Paarl's limbs. If you deal enough damage, it will collapse and you'll be free to hack away for a couple of seconds. Try focusing on one limb at a time to make it easier.
You can i-frame roll through the AOE blast, but it's risky. Still, if you feel like you can get the timing down, go for it.
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>>170206265
Don't want to be locked on in that fight.
Best entry method is rolling through it's initial sideswipes to get access to its legs.
If it starts charging up a bolt explosion in response, get out of there. Rolling just as it blows also works.
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>>170206451
Where should I be ringing for Amelia, fog or lamp?
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>>170205583
Are you creating the FRCs yourself?

Just FYI, you can savescum before you make a dungeon and share the dungeon / write down the glyph, then just load the savescum and regain all the materials while still maintaining access to the dungeon by using the glyph search.

Basically this means you can make unlimited dungeons if you have enough to make one dungeon.
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>>170206554
I died fighting this guy with a bag in that chapel area, got taken somewhere, ran past everything died a few times. Got to the boss, got raped.
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>>170206936
Near the gate where you can summon Henriett
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Anyone farming Cold Abyssals (or any other kind)?

Now that I have this LHB I might as well gem it.
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>>170207050
Coming.
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>>170206265
play unlocked, roll around a bit and hit it
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>>170206797
So what's a appropriate level?
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>>170207226
You want 30 Vit and your weapon at at least +3. BL doesn't actually matter much.
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>>170207034
It's not in any way mandatory. Like yourself got it at low level first run, not particularly great equipment.

Had great fun finally learning to beat it and felt like overcoming a massive hurdle. It's where a lot of things clicked for me.
>>170207226
25 BL isn't necessarily unappropriate. Think it's operating more on the assumption of 25 BL on a first run.
Whether vit's at high 10s or low 20s+ is probably the better metric, as that takes certain attacks away from 1-shotting range, makes some 2-shots into 3-shots.
Most people swear on absolutely massive Vit, and honestly there's solid reason to do so as it makes everything much more forgiving. However for the main game 25 Vit will keep you from being OHK'd.
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>>170207456
I got another question it's about stunning a enemy, do I shoot them at the start or near the end of their attack?
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>>170207226
4
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>>170207226
farming cold abyssals is best done solo unless you are helping a host farm them in which case you get to keep all your gems, chunks and rocks. just have to find an idiot willing to host for you. good luck
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>>170207674
Depends on enemy and the attack. Best thing's to experiment, but most often it's when they're at the point in an attack where they've got the highest momentum.

There are exceptions, but most of the time aim for the peak of their momentum.
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Ringing at Frontier lamp, Josephu.
Nice sliders, mind posting a close up?
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>>170207820
I'm still new to this game and I have no idea what you're saying, dumb it down for me.
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>>170207957
Pretty sure they meant to quote >>170207107
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>>170207896
Welp, the large messanger anon invaded and slaughtered my undergeared/leveled ass. Wonder if he's browsing the thread right now.
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Drako, ringing at Layer 1 bell
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>>170207456
BL matters a lot in early game because of the way physical DEF works and scales with your level. Attacks do a lot more damage to you if you are very low level
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>>170207896
I'll try, but I don't know how to transfer the screenshot to here though.
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>>170208482
Make the throwaway twitter account and use the PS4 share button.
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>>170208482
USB stick or HD is what I use.
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>>170207820
>just have to find an idiot willing to host for you
or people can just agree to each run the dungeon simultaneously and take turns hosting for eachother to farm gems, because it ends up being 5x faster for both players
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>>170208660
Okay, will do
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An easy way to cheese [the powder keg hunter is by using the charge attack of the bowblade. As soon as you get up the ladder, before he's even finished turning around, just hit him with a charged attack and it'll knock him right off.
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>>170209107
Okay now I got invaded by someone using a rapid poison chikage, and unsurprisingly even I managed to win.
Are you coming? Or am I ringing at the wrong place?
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Is there anyone that can help me with FRC Keeper? Had a dude who was helping but he died right away twice and left

pw is shaka
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>>170209212
You can also do that with a gun.
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>>170209445
Just do this
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>>170209445
>died right away twice and left
I LELLED. Booting up my PS4 for a keeper is a bit much, though. Why are you having problems?
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>>170208660
I'm having trouble with technology so I'm just going to post a pic from my phone if that's okay with you guys
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>>170209264
I'm coming, just had some trouble with technology and the rifle spear fag. will be ringing in a sec
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>>170209445
Well I didn't leave, I went and tried to kill her in my world and it took a while cause I visceraled her and she got stuck in the ceiling.
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>>170208104
It really doesn't though.

Going from 10 def to 212 reduces attacks from the Central Yharnam axe-and-torch Yharnamites by about 50%.

Differences in BL at low levels are completely negligible.
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>>170209723
>>170210036

At this point its a mental block. I cant stand the fact that she cant attack me in the middle of my charged R2s. The disc is on my knee and Im ready to snap it. Please someone fucking help me
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I dun goofed, Beastclaws anon.
Tell me if you've succeeded.
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>>170210998
Nigga just parry her
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>>170207896
Here ya go
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>>170210998
Okay so the way I did it was:
>get her on left stairs, diagonally down and left from the top pillar
>hit her so she does the double swipe
>parry and visceral when she's on the pillar side and riposte
BAM now just BB L2 into the ceiling forever
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>>170211123

IT DOESNT FUCK WORK

and she cant be stun locked. I hate this fucking game so fucking much. she literally interupts me in the middle of my R1s. I NEVER EVER EVER should have left my ARC and BLTs builds where I can spam enemies with Bow Arrows and Exec Gloves. Ive never hated a game so much. Thanks for helping me out guys.
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Should I fill up my Vit or put the last two into End? There isn't really any point in putting points into Str for the Bloodletter is there? Tricked seems better in every way.

Also do stam cost increase gems not trigger until a certain threshold or something? I put in a 2.8% gem and it seemed to not make any difference at all. Putting in another 2.9% gem resulted in a tiny difference and adding a third 3.0% gem made a bit of a difference.
Also do -durability gems give a flat -X to the weapon's default durability or is it somehow percentage based?
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>>170211346
It works. You need to time the parries as you would on any other enemy. Shoot her as she fires up her sword to prevent her from going into her second phase.
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>>170211598
>bloodtinge milkweed
>anathema
Fitting.
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>>170211346
>sperges out instead of trying to learn the game
seriously
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post yfw
>curse: kin down
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Alright friendo, I killed Amy. Are you up for the chalices now?
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>>170211346
>she
>>170211694
>her

Keeper is a dude, yo.
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>>170211694

Still doesnt work, no matter when I shoot her. Ive given up on parrying, since the windows are so inconsisent for each enemy. I gave up on the FRC Watcher. She just plows through me in the middle of my charged attacks with no remorse. Im just disappointed there wasnt anyone here who could co-op with me through this shit.
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>>170211346
Is this Keeper? What chalice? Summon me, the online function exists to be used
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>>170212097
Yeah, sorry about my pitiful performance there.
Searching at SRRC.
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>>170212097
The pass is bbg right?
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>>170211694

Still doesnt work, no matter when I shoot her. Ive given up on parrying, since the windows are so inconsisent for each enemy. I gave up on the FRC Watcher. She just plows through me in the middle of my charged attacks with no remorse. Im just disappointed there wasnt anyone here who could co-op with me through this shit. >>170212341

Its the Ithyl FRC chalice. pw is shaka. Im at the first layer
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>>170212338
>She just plows through me in the middle of my charged attacks with no remorse.
You fucking retard, why are just charging your attacks in front of her knowing that you can easily be oneshot? Why are you complaining that the enemy is not walking right into your charge attacks? You know you can't hyper armor through that shit, right?
Keeper's parry frames are consistent as fuck, how are you having trouble?

*Im just disappointed there wasn't anyone here who could carry me through this shit
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>>170212473
Yes
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>>170212638
Sit back and let me boot up and SRRC in m8, we'll have it done
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>>170212665
To be fair, from my personal experience keeper just walks into my charged r2s
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>>170212934

Alright, Im ringing
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>>170212338
Parry windows for an attack never change.
Where the right point is can have a different feel for each enemy/attack, you just need to experiment until you find that.
Then you can do it consistently because it's the same every time.

If trading with charged attacks is not a viable strategy for an enemy just change tack.

Want to learn the fight? Go in there not to win but to experiment. Feel them out, test some things, see if something consistently works or doesn't work. Get an idea of thresholds and the enemy's reactions in certain circumstances. Then see if you can consistently bait out certain reactions, etc, and if you can use that.

You're not likely to learn much in a frustrated and frenzied state. Go in with a cool and analytical head.

Getting co-op'd through it will essentially mean you learned nothing.
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Ah shit, tell me you got the keeper m8
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>>170213434
>Parry windows for an attack never change.
I don't want to defend that anon, but sometimes the interrupt window does feel ...odd.
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>>170213542

I deed. Thanks for at least coming. Cheers
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What's going on tonight guys? People dying to the Keeper? FFS bbg, get your shit together.
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>>170213640
Glad you got it, sorry about that, got a little paranoid about that fucking fire burst move, always catches me
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>>170211346
Are you the same guy who went nuclear over Loran Darkbeast a couple of months ago?
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Hey fellas, I'm going to stop by hemwick real quick to grab the rune thing if you want to drop by
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>>170214457
Sure thing.
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>>170214457
Oh shit I'm sorry I was sitting by the SRRC the whole time.
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I always beat the Keeper of the Old Lords by smashing her repeatedly with tricked beast cutter's R2s (the second one will usually pancake her), and then knocking her down again just as she gets up with an auger of ebriatas hit, as I regenerate my stamina for another round of beast cutter R2s. I try and keep her on the ground for as much of the fight as possible.

Hitting her with the auger before getting in the rhythm of pancaking her with your weapon is really dangerous. If you don't knock her down because she has amy form of power armor (from an attack or a dodge), she will rush you and slash you to death in two fast hits and you will not be allowed to dodge away, I guess because you got hit during the auger's cooldown.
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>>170215250
No worries, now we are going back to chalices anyways.
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Are you coming Amy arm anon?
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>>170216290
I'm sitting at the SRRC but nothing's happening.
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>>170216290
>>170216409
Turns out simply restarting the search actually helps.
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>doing random SRRC
>get summoned in real quick
>summon in
>boss bar on the bottom of the screen
>boss died seconds before I zoned in
>get vermin and arcane gem
>joy and wave to myself
>zone out

t-thanks
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Can anyone help with the boss on Ailing Loran Layer 2? BL is 97, Pass is pls
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Is anybody coming anymore? Is it over now?
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>>170218036
Yeah, m8. SRRC'ing
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>go into Oedon Tomb and get rekt by Henryk
>go back and Eileen is fighting him
>accidentally kill her during the fight and still get rekt again
>he's still there but he's too hard for me so I decide to come back later
>look up that he disappears after you fight Rom
>come back before Shadows of Yarnham
>he's gone
What the hell? Is he gone forever? I really wanted his set.
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Are you not joining anymore Drako?
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>I've died at least 10 times in a row to Micolash on NG+2
Is there any way to make this shit easier? I wouldn't mind but it always fucking happens in the second phase and having to keep chasing him around and get him to half health before even getting another shot is pissing me off. I tried using a fire paper but it didn't do enough extra damage for me to be able to kill him quickly before he could tentacle me or do the other attack.
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What's a good co-op level for all of NG+?
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beast pellets, have as little insight as possible , use the best arcane def gear you've got.
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>>170219156
Poison him
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Fuck I accidently iniriated the long ass transformation attack when I really didn't want to, I'm so sorry beast claw anon.
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>>170220265
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>>170220185
Well, at least I got them. Just 3 more layers of shit to get through and we will be done here
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>>170219502
I went through all of my poison knives and it didn't do shit so I just looked up a way to cheese it on the wiki that worked pretty damn well, I'll use it for NG+3 too
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>post two memes as an offering to the Good Machine
>actually summon him
He is all seeing
He answers when called upon, for he is sympathetic in nature
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Machine, I have as much of an idea as you do why I saved this masterpiece you so staunchly believe is a pile of shit.
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Fuck me, so many weapons have follow up charged R2s I never knew about, this game surprises me to this day
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I'm sorry beast claw anon, I think I'm done for tonight, it's getting really late for me.
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>>170221490
Yeah, no worries. I was going to call quits soon anyways. It was fun, thanks for dropping by.
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Have a good night, friend.
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Machine, you need the right version, the one with the peg leg.
Goodbye, we love you.
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>>170221850
thanks friendo
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>373 posts
>50 posters
slowly the casuals are being weeded out by the nioh general
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I can do the Defiled Chalice after finishing Ailing Loran, right?
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>>170222396
To be fair, a good amount came from two encounters with the Machine, and a bunch of guys doing co-op. There was also some guy who couldn't kill a Keeper to save his life.
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So I just fell down the Yahar'gul elevator shaft for the first time.

What's the most blood echoes you've ever lost?
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>>170222737
84 mil in an FRC because I was being stupid as fuck
Despite having nothing to do with those echoes anyways, I still felt bad about losing them.
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>>170222737
over a million because i died in a fc then forgot to pick up my echoes again and got invaded and died, then realized id done fucked up
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>>170222672
it makes me sad seeing the amount of posters slowly decrease. i love this general and i hope that there are enough "core" posters who will keep it going no matter what
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>>170213571
some attacks are almost meant to be unparryable, since you need to start shooting before they happen. Like that one in the webm. Plus you are using a slow weapon to parry with. Several other enemies have a quick attack they do up close that really happens too fast to react to with a parry.
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>>170223209
Well, we haven't had to prematurely end one yet. If you look around on /vg/, you'll find generals that take maybe twice as long to renew as we do. I'd like to hope that we keep getting traffic, even if it means bringing in new players. Otherwise, any old members who ran off to Nioh, let's say, will probably be back after its heat dies down. Likely the same after TRC is released for a while.
Besides, if it comes down to it, we can continuously post memes, maybe evolve into puns. We almost turned to dog posting recently.
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>>170223209
What's the average of posters we have per thread? I think last thread was ~100, and hopefully we'll see this thread hit a bit higher.
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>>170223431
i dont play bb too much atm as ive been playing alot of r6 siege, but i still come ere just for the comfy bb feel, i'll always see this general as my home
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>>170222737
maybe a few hundred k. I always spend echoes when I get more than a million just because. I buy bulk expensive stuff like ritual materials, papers etc.
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>>170223486
The threads last a while and people would be posting from there phones which ever changing IPs. I think there are only maybe 30-40 people actually posting here regularly.

I know it probably wouldn't happen, but imagine the boost the playerbase would get if it was PS+ game. That would see tons of players coming in for months.
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>>170223582
I backed off on BB for a while, mostly because I love the game. If I kept playing, I'd start to hate it. But every time I try playing something else, I miss BB more and more.
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/bbg/ is like a cozy log cabin or a dimly lit pub, i love it
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>>170223987
It helps that we're all on the same platform, so we don't have the usual masturbation contests over PS4 vs PC. We don't have to sift through the lore of three or four games to have a discussion, and we can't argue about one game in the series over another.
We're much smaller than average, but we're also self-sustaining. We got by and can keep getting by.
And on the subject of cozy, post Setz.
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>>170224317
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>>170222737
16 million. I currently have 85 million on me right now and I'm bound to lose it sooner or later
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Is bloodborne a metaphor for childbirth?
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>>170224317
sweet kosm, image if bb got porte to pc out of nowhere...
imagine the shitposting
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>>170224559
imagine*
not image
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>>170224559
If that happened, we'd probably all jump ship, need to make a general specifically for PS4. That "PCuck" guy over in /dsg/ would have a field day, though.
Fortunately, it won't. Sony has this one, not Bamco.
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I really wish From and Sony would still support Bloodborne with patches and shit. The game should run at a steady 30fps on the PS4 pro, at the very least
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>>170224691
we'd get a whole new set of tripfags
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>>170224559
The shitstorm would be twice the magnitude of the Tsar Bomba
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>>170224934
Could Meme Machine take them on? We'd pin our collective hopes on a guy who identifies as a pretty princess obsessed with BB memes.
They wouldn't know what hit them.
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>>170224870
i wish that too friendo
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>>170224870
It really gets me that SRRC will never be fixed.
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>>170225392
theres literally nothing wrong with srrc
:^)
:^)
:^)


:^)
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>>170224870
atleast they didnt leave it with game breaking bugs and shit really
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Anyone want to beat up Rom with me?

BL35
I'm standing next to the burgerworth lantern
PW is bbg
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>>170225392
>tfw story dungeons will never be invadable
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finally killed queen yarnham, boy that was a long fucking "sidequest", i'm never doing chalice dungeons ever again.

also, most difficult chalice bosses (4me): Pthumerian Descendant (cursed)>Amy>Big Fire Doggo>Pyro Skelington
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>>170226612
>basically the whole cast of the cursed dungeons.
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>can't sneak crit/visceral them
>ebin back kick so you can't dodge behind for more than one hit
>can chase fast as fuck
>attacks extremely fast

:^) amazing

I don't know what i hate more these guys or FRC witches
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does hibiki still cuck people or has he faded away?
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>>170226837
They spook me the fuck out
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>>170226612
Congrats, you just finished babby's first CD's. Now you can join the big bois in FRC, unless you're too scared?
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>SRRCing into LHB/Hunter Axe hosts wearing default garb
>almost always get fucked up by Rom
I sure do love SRRC
>>170226612
HMPH is a fucking nightmare I tell you.
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>>170226612
Wait till you meet an FRC Undead Giant
Ball and chain spin2win variants are pure hell. Or, cannon pointblank explosion ones. Hell, double sickle infinite combos too why not
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>Keep hearing theories from people saying that Laurence is the Headless Bloodletting Beast in the waking world
But wait.
I thought chalice dungeons weren't in the waking world? And Laurence turned into a Cleric Beast anyways?
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>>170227458
>>170227237
>>170227091
i accept the challenge, it's the "cursed and defiled root chalice" one with all offerings, right?
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>>170227629
All offerings, so (F)etid, (R)otted, and (C)ursed. FRC Isz, Lower Loran, and Ihyll, basically.
Give it a shot. May all the red spiders, NPC hunters, Undead Giants, Hemwick Witches, and HMPHs treat you well
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>>170226837
They are easy. Bait their jump attack (preferably) or their scratch and dodge it sideways & forwards into them, then just start hitting them and don't stop til they're dead. You will stun lock them before they can turn to face you, just like with a scourge beast.
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>>170227629
Nah, pick out any Depth 5 root dungeon and use all rites. That'll grant you passage to glyphs you can create free from online (if you've got PS+ that is). You can just create your own too, but you'll need the materials.
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>>170225748

Offer is still up.
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>>170227778
>make said ritual
>enter first "optional path"
>the first thing i see are bath messagers
is cthulhu trying to tell me something? is this a warning?
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>>170227629
Yes. Those other anons are wrong. You can access depth-5 FRC glyphs just by making a depth-4 cursed and defiled root dungeon with all the rites. You must have the correct depth 5 root chalice in your inventory, though.
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>>170228138
Better stock up, hoontah
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>>170228178
just killed one of those butchers but he had a red aura and was guarding an uncanny wheel, what do the red auras mean?
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>>170228410
That hes got a big dick.
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>>170227606
Chalice dungeons are literally underneath Byrgenwerth
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>>170228410
Red auras mean the enemy is stronger, but the gems they drop are of a higher rating. It's +1 to the rating pool, which in a depth 5 is normally 15-17. But now, it's 16-18 thanks to the red aura.
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So I'm trying to farm blood stone chunks prior to Rom on my BL4 character. Are gargoyles in Cainhurst my only option? I've been at it for an hour and haven't seen anything more than double shards.
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>>170228410
That's from the "fetid" rite. The red fetid aura means the enemy does a lot more damage and has more health than they would normally, but drops gems up to rating 18 (some can be really rare and useful)
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>>170228716
Chalice dungeon bosses can drop blood chunks too, so you can try that.
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>>170227778
fuck man, the huters just wreck me in 3 hits
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>>170228937
and red auras in one hit.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>170228716
You should be able to have 1 weapon at +9 before Rom as long as you've picked up the ones in Frontier, Cainhurst, Hunter's Nightmare and the one in Woods. I've gotten a Chunk from Lower Hintertomb Brainsucker before.
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>>170228937
>>170229171
They don't fuck around anymore. At least their AI is still wonky
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>>170227778
>May all the red spiders, NPC hunters, Undead Giants, Hemwick Witches, and HMPHs treat you well
You forgot the Mad Ones, other than that, pretty accurate. Hemwick Witches make me fucking livid.
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best dungeon to farm chunks?
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>>170229582
ptwrx6tb
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>>170229582
What build are you making?

If you ever need to farm the layer one bosses FRC for good gems, do it there. To get a full weapons worth of say 27.2 physical gems you will probably have to do 100 runs or so of those bosses. 1 chunk per run.
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>>170229728
my build is already done, i just want to use more weapons ( i'm 50/50 str/skill)
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After taking a break and playing Nioh for like a month, I gotta say, I'm looking forward to settling back into Bloodborne. I missed you guys, it's good to be back.

Except the Vilebloods, you can all get purged
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>that one boss you destroy but others have trouble with
What's their name bbg
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>>170229895
do you already have your good 27.2% gems farmed? You could just try farming good blunt/thrust gems from the undead giant bosses, by the time you get a few decent ones you'll have a heap of chunks.

those fights are aids though
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>>170229939
See, guys? It's like I said, those we lost to Nioh would eventually come back to us.
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>>170230026
Witch of hemwick
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>>170230026
Ball/Chain Giants, easiest out of the 3. 2kat is the worse tbqh, Cannon is okay but that one floor shot attack sucks.
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>>170230209
what
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>>170230209
Who has trouble with the Witch of Hemwick outside of an FRC dungeon? The road there, with all those Huntsmen and their rifles, is more dangerous.
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>>170230213
I just hate with the chain giant, one of his attacks if you are in the wrong spot you cannot iframe through it since he swings, then all his balls swing right after. if you are badly positioned you are dead in frc. 2kat has a much more predictable moveset and nothing he does is unavoidable. the way he reads inputs and resets instantly can be irritating though. I fucking hate both fights either way.
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I think I just hit the jackpot.

Just got a chalice dungeon with a bath messenger before the first boss that gives both Lost and Uncanny for

Beasthunter Saif
Beast cutter
Church Pick
Holy Moonlight Sword
Bowblade
Rakuyo
Boom Hammer
Whirligig Saw
Bloodletter
Amygdalan Arm
and Parasite

Give me a minute and I'll post the code
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>>170230026
BSB and ROM

They're punks
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>>170230026
Loran Darkbeast is a punk bitch.
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>>170230517
Eh I don't know, Ball/Chain is easily done flawlessly. I usually bait a hook swing, dodge and get 1-2 hits and back off. When he does the slam that's another 1-2 hits. Every other chain swing is easily dodgable, but I can see it being a problem for other people. 2kat can have pretty long combos and rarely has any openings, at least in my experience. The fights can take a while. Abhorrent is another lots of people have trouble with, I absolutely love fighting him.
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>>170230535
Ok this this dungeon also has a Lost Blade of Mercy before the first lantern AND a Ring of Betrothal in the boss hallway, before the first boss.

Glyph code: pxy26gk3
FRC Cursed Pthumeru Ihyll
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wow nightmare of mensis are you fucking kidding me right now
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Could old woman be realistically tough like Eileen in real life?
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>>170233690
>eileen
>female
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Could somebody post the sliders for Maria, or even just a decent looking female hunter? I don't want to waste any more time trying to make this thing look even remotely human, so please spoonfeed me a good face.
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>>170234105
http://imgur.com/a/ptTAG
http://imgur.com/a/WUZOK
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>>170226612
I just beat her too, I think the chalice dungeons were pretty easy for me because I didn't even start them until NG+. Level 4 was definitely the worst though, I probably spent 3 hours on that one alone and then went through all of the last one in an hour, killing all the bosses on my first try except for the headless beast.

They weren't nearly as bad and boring as I had heard but there's no way I'd pay for PS Plus to experience more of them
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>>170234439
chalice is cool but the reason people say they are boring is because they are neccesary for pvp builds. running through depth 1-3 is boring as fuck with no challenge once you've done it the first time. even the cursed pthumerian and depth 5 isz/loran are boring because you can rush through.

I still enjoy spelunking is new root chalices I make, but I hate running through on a new character to get there.
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>>170234312
That'll do. Thanks.
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>SRRC
>I'm level 107
>get a layer 2 depth 1 pthumer
>leave immediately who the fuck summons for this shit at this level

>next one is a foetid depth 2 pthumer root
>what the fug are these people doing

>next one is depth 5 pthumer queen final fight
>boss does hunters rally
>I laugh out loud and sure enough host dies to the second attack

I should make a webm of all the times people die after doing hunters rally. Also my faith in SRRC was saved when I finally got summoned to cursed amy and we beat her first go. I rarely see that.
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>>170236713
Why is doing hunter's rally a shitter thing to do?
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>>170236864
it's just funny because it's such an enthusiastic/optimistic emote and the only time I see it is right before people get shit on.

patrician emotes

- wave upon being summoned, host does not deserve a bow yet
- if host performs well they get a bow
- if not, conviction
- substitute all of these for make contact if you are a squid person
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>>170235312
I mean it's nice to have some extra content despite not having PS Plus considering I played Demon's and Dark on PS3 without being connected to wifi but the chalice dungeons are just not fun, they're nothing but grindfests
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Can you savescum to make open root chalices? I don't want to farm mats. Could I make a root frc dungeon, make it open, then wipe the save and navigate back to that dungeon using glyphs, or does it get deleted from the server?
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>>170238373
No.
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>>170238249
eh it depends on what you are doing. I think they are fun the first time through to the queen, but without online shennaigans it's not as good. The same can be said for the main game though. I couldn't imagine playing offline being anywhere near as fun.

I would honestly pay for chalice dlc. bring a whole new bunch of enemies in, a bunch of new chalice type varieties. Maybe even stuff like speedrun timers. The main story of BB has plenty of content with the old hunters now and i'm really happy with it.

Not that we'll ever get more dlc mind you.
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>>170238535
so it gets deleted when you revert the save? how could the servers know that?
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>>170233690
Old women can be pretty damn tough when it comes to endurance, but not as much in terms of strength. Since in BB universe everyone is high on magic blood with many properties, I say why not. I always assumed it makes people stronger, although I don't think it's ever stated.
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>>170218363
Henryk gone if u already fight rom IRC, There should be his body around the area wearing yellow clothes

is there any tips fighting the shadow of yharnem
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>>170238826
you can actually. Just write down the glyph and make it open before savescumming.
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>>170233690
Who knows how old she actually is. She could be 30-40, or she could be 70. She just says she's "old".
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>>170239590
Keep parrying and visceraling the one with the two swords, then kill the flame caster, then kill the one with the flamesprayer because he hardly does anything once the other two are dead
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>>170239870
okay, thanks m8
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>>170239928
They kicked my ass half a dozen times in a row the first time I fought them but once you know their moves they're easy as fuck. I went through NG+2 and 3 in the last few days and both times I didn't even use half of my vials fighting them. If you keep visceralling the one with the swords, the flamesprayer one won't be able to hit you, if you just keep circling around that big grave to the right when you walk through the boss door the flame caster will hardly be able to hit you, and if you leave the flamesprayer guy for last and get him into a corner he is completely defensless. Also, make sure to only attack the sword one if you can help it because they'll transform once the total equivalent damage done would equal one of them being dead, meaning if you get 2 of them down to half health they'll all transform at the same time.
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>>170230026

Any DLC boss barring Laurence and Orphan of Kosm
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>>170230026
Orphan. Never had trouble with him.
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What exactly are the hunter tools required for the trophy? I can't tell if I'm counting wrong or what, I read that there are 10 but I already have seven and if I'm not mistaken the only ones I'm missing are the choir bell and the messenger's gift, what's the last one?

I already have:
old hunter bone
tiny tonitrus
empty phantasm shell
augur of ebrietas
a call beyond
beast roar
executioner's gloves
monocular
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>>170239741
Yeah I thought so. I'm gonna bank up a whole bunch of frc to run through tonight.
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>>170174810
If you let her die normally, by using too many sedatives, she goes out and gets herself killed getting more. She's extracting it from her dead husband in the graveyard outside of cathedral ward.
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>>170240957
Accursed Brew m8
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>>170241014
Wouldn't that be awfully tedious?
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>>170241270
backing up, deleting and restoring a save is actually pretty quick to do. much faster than trying to manually farm the mats for each root dungeon. in the time you farm the insight to buy mats/collect them from chalice you could easily savescum 10. I have enough material right now to make 2 root frc depth 5 dungeons, so each savescum gets me two brand new glyphs.

I'm doing this just because I like running new dungeons too, not for any real reason.
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>>170240957
Uh, there's only 9 in the main game dude (DLC Tools don't count). Monocular isn't one, you're just missing the gift and bell.
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>>170241263
I haven't bought the DLC yet, I'm waiting for it to go on sale again
>>170241661
That explains that, thanks. Getting the last weapon I was missing was so easy I was hoping it would be similarly fast for the tools, but I'll just go through the game again and make sure to stock up on sedatives to get those last two.
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>play over the weekend
>struggle to get summoned
>playing today, monday afternoon
>summons nonstop
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>>170243340
I think psn was having a meltdown this weekend. People were having troubles getting summoned in the fc despite there being people there.
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>farming for bolt gems
>bolt attack up 23.1% + attack vs kin up 11%

das it mang
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>>170243703
Why would you farm for 23.1%?
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>>170243802
radial bolt what do you want from me +11% vs kin is awesome
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>>170244375
you can get more dommag by having 2 cold scaling radials and then an abhorrent beast waning iirc
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>>170245013
cold abyssal is only +5 more AR than the radial bolt
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>>170243340
>>170243402
Isn't there like some back to Lordran thing going on for BB?
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>mfw just discovered root dungeons can have hidden rooms

great now I have to hit every wall I see
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>>170229648
I tried to get in this thing but I guess I was too low level? what are the requirements to join
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>>170245346
Was it an obvious fake wall or hidden in plain sight?

And my question can Praal be parried?
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Any reason to not have 99 insight, besides the beasthood and frenzy resistance?

Is there a list to what changes when you have 99 insight?
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it wasn't obvious, but it was in the same type of room you normally see hidden walls anyway.
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Anyone want to help me finish off the last of the story dungeons? I've not played for nearly a week and im on some new meds so i might be a bit crap. Ill be on shortly.
>BL110
>Password: hoont
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>>170245846
Level doesn't affect anything besides multiplayer ranges. It's an FRC Isz root glyph, so if you don't got Isz root and haven't made an FRC root once then that's why you can't open it.
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>>170245854
Paarl can't be parried, same with most giant bosses like Cleric, Amelia and Blood-letting Beast. You can do viscerals on them, you just gotta break their faces to do it.
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>>170245938
there arnt, and people have always been triggered by the fact there arnt
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>>170245854
Ive managed a visceral attack on him a number of times, but i couldnt tell you for sure what the trigger is. At a guess i think you have to do enough damage to his head.
You definately cant parry him in the usual sense though.
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>>170245938
After 40 insight you can see Amygdala's pre-bloodmoon. I'm told the music in the dream changes at 50. Nothing happens at 99.
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>>170245251
well it's a reddit event so I'm just planning on getting tons of invasions. The event doesn't start until this weekend afaik
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>>170245938
the reason to not have 99 insight is that you can't get more insight. you filled your wallet basically. go buy some chunks or rocks
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>>170246473
battack certain spots on bosses to break them and that will usually get a visceral.

after you break a part is is immune to being broken again for a little while. so break another part next.


>>170246664
never buy chunks ever. they cost way too much insight.
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>>170247072
>being so poor on insight you have to optimize each point spent
more eyes anon, you need 'em
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>>170246197
Anyone?
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>>170247672
i can help just let me get ready
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>>170247204
fuck off church choir ladies. chunks are 4 lunks

cusred, or the level 5 pthumerian? I have cursed complete so i'll summon faster there, otherwise i'll SRRC.
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>>170246197
>>170247672
ringing at SRRC now with hoont
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>>170248363
>>170248081
Okay, ringing now. Sorry i was just in the dream.
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>>170248746
Ive been ringing for a while now, checked my password and made sure its on worldwide. Im not getting anything.
Would it be worthwhile rebooting my PS4?
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>summon in
>some guy called mohommed
>clear some of the dungeon
>he stops
>send me friend request
>profile is in arabic
>send me a photo of us standing together
>sends me a sticker
>dies to bloodsuckers

rip muslim friend


>>170249261
>>170248746
im ringing now too
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Well i guess something isnt working today. Ive restarted both my ps4 and my router and still nothing. Sorry for wasting your time guys. Guess ill go on by myself.
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>>170249831
try one more time, i'm going right not at srrc with hoont as password
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>>170250042
actually hold up I just got summoned again
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Any reason I shouldn't kill Gehrman and teleport out before going on to do some chalice stuff?
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>>170243340
try forwarding your ports for PSN and BB on your PS4's IP address in your router
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>>170250104
Ive noticed the fog gate keeps appearing at the entrance to the dungeon but then it vanishes. That means somethings happening but why cant you get through?
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>>170200437

lel
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>>170250139
Because you forgot to eat the cords?

Also no, the Dream is much nicer after you kill Gherman. The red moon thing they added in was a nice touch.
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>>170250139
Also I just recently decided to run the chalices in NG+, and it's a million times easier if you're a physical build. You just buy all the misc chalice materials like bastards of Loran etc. You only need to pick up the sages hair and all that rubbish in Isz Layer 3 when you get there.

You just need to channel all your blood echoes into Ritual Blood (5) and all your insight for the chalice materials. You can go from Pthumeru 1 - 3 Straight into Defiled, then into Ihyll, then to Isz and make a CRF Isz.

All without diverting to Loran for bastards, or farming Blood (5) for endless periods of time in Loran. Once you have the Yharnam stone you can buy blood (4) for Loran too, so you don't even have to re farm that shit.

Really smooths out the chalice grind. Once you get past Lower Pthumeru you spend most of your time running around killing bosses rather than hunting for Ritual Blood and other materials. The only thing you need to be careful of is having enough red jelly for Ihyll and remembering to get the Living String before going to NG+.
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after work today, the orphan is dying. I almost had him last night on 3 separate occasions but he pulled some bullshit and one shot killed me each time. I finally gave up after my connection went awry and kicked me to the main screen, probably the game telling me stop and regroup. I'm using my saif+9, dodging with that and getting fast hits in seems to be working well. my axe+10, while devastating is a little slow and it gets me killed. even with the kinhunters gem (23%) doesn't seem to do much for me.

I know of all the tactics against, but is there anything else he's weak against?
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>>170252542
He isnt kin. That gem does fuck all.

Also, when phase 2 starts, fight him in the water.
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>>170230535
Doesn't 8i29rqz3 already do this?
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>>170252680
I thought he was? isn't kos a great one? and that gem, the placement suggests it's for help against him. alright then I'll get rid of that gem and save it for NG+
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>>170252931
adding to this, I do fight him in the water. I know it's benefits but it doesn't seem to be beneficial enough. it's funny cause I actually dodge better in his second phase and he leaves himself more open, but he's so fucking brutal man, you're not perfect with everything you do you're getting punished hard for it.
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>>170252931
Youd think so wouldnt you? You are right in what you are saying but his enemy type isnt listed as "kin" so that gem isnt going to have any effect unfortunately.

Also, i wouldnt recommend fighting Kos in NG+ if you are already struggling with him. He is nigh-on impossible on later game cycles without FRC gems.
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>>170252931
Kinhunter gems are probably some of the most useless gems in my opinion.
There are only 8 or so enemies who classify as Kin. And most of those are bosses, or shit-tier mobs(ayymissaries)

>>170253192
>Shitstralife has OoK as Kin
I dont know what i expected
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>>170252931
Kos is a Great One, and Orphan is her child, that makes him also a Great One and not kin.

Funny how fextra lists him and Amygdala as kin when you can open up their individual pages right there and see that kin bonus doesn't apply to them.
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>Realize i've never cheked the frontier winter lanterns for their droplets
>"Maybe i can get a bit of a headstart over these central pthu 13.5%'s"
>Droplet; 11% phys, 7.8 Atk down
Okay then, not worth the effort at all
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>>170252814
Yes, it's right in the main level too, not far away from the lantern. Don't have to pull a lever or anything, and it's a Pthumeru 1 chalice IIRC so anyone who has beaten the first chalice can get to it.
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>>170253192
>>170253249
>>170253331
that's odd as shit but there are a lot of weird things in the universe of bloodborne. and I honestly don't think I'll be playing through it solo again, I believe I've gotten every item available so I'm gonna treat like just another area for now. I'll probably help somebody with bosses or maybe even co-op a level, but yeah fuck playing the entire thing again. I'm starting to get deeper into the dungeons too and I'm hoping to get better gems and loot soon
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>>170253249
one radial 27.7% kin + 14 Bolt kinhunter gem on a fully nourished (21.5% ATK UP) tonitrus makes it a kin annihilator the likes of which you've never seen. Living failures, Ebriatas and Rom are toast
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>>170254185
I dont like going through the game solo anymore either. Done it enough times already but Ive always prefered online play. Feels more like "the hunt" should if you know what i mean.
I also have no friends :(
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>>170253451
Lower Pthu layer 2 watcher guarding the lever drops cursed gems up to 24% as I've discovered, although 18% ones are more often.
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>>170254990
Well that probably made no sense.

*feels more like "the hunt" should and makes the game a lot less lonely if you know what i mean.
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>>170255014
Huh, neat.
I just settled with farming the lower pthu layer 1 boss for a set of 17,5%'s for now to get me a bit into the DLC for those delicious chunks
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>>170255320
just farm the mensis lanterns if you can't kill ludwig and maria
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>>170252323
>grinding for materials
>when there's a guide in the OP telling you how to get through all of the story chalices with barely any grind
lmao you are stupid
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wow I just killed by the fucking *bell ringing woman* in a FRC coop because she randomly decided to do her super damaging AOE bell-ring attack (I thought only spider maidens could do that bullshit) while I was sprinting up to her to kill her but it just KO'd me from 900HP before I could hit her, and right before I died it a sinister bell was discovered so my host probably got killed by the invader. I'm /so/ good
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>>170254990
I still have plenty of interest in the game, overlooking the possible spike in difficulty that supposedly happens I still want to play now that I know what I'm doing and have so much experience. I feel you though, having another hunter with you would add a fun dynamic and it wouldn't such a fucking nightmare
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>>170187112

Root chalice dungeons are procedurally generated dungeons used solely to farm rare items.

Absolutely nothing you may get from Depth 5 cursed/defiled/rotted root dungeons is necessary to destroy everything else in the game and get your platinum. In fact, these very dungeons, depending on what bosses are placed in them, may be one of the two hardest challenges in Bloodborne (and the second one, the shark giant fuck cave, can be cheesed).
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>>170255473
I would if i wasnt still at Rom in the story, i figured after doing the story 4 times in quick succession on different characters i'd leave that one on the backburner while i did chalices and DLC on my latest one
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do you guys listen to music when you play bloodborne
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>>170255586
just run through yahargul after killing rom and you're in mensis
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>>170256483
No, that ruins the immersion for me.
I'd maybe consider doing it while PvPing, but meh.
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>>170256483
chthe'ilist, grave miasma and septicflesh
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>>170256675
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Anyone know if I need to collect all weapons on a single character for the trophy or if I can do it across more than one?
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>>170258318
Single character

>>170256809
yes
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>>170256809
>Killing Valtr
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>>170256483
Never when replaying the main game, but I listen to podcasts when doing chalices.
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>>170256675
>septicflesh

Good lad
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Was there a reason why Iosefka seemingly did not remember you despite being a patient at her own clinic?
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>>170260480
That's not Iosefka anon
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>>170260480
She didn't treat you.
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>start a new character
>get to Rom and then to Research Hall
>get an urge to remake the character's appearance a little
God damn it, why do I care so much about character's faces in games like this.
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>>170260480
She is dead, and replaced by an imposter from the church.
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>>170261019
>>170260625
I meant, before the imposter. >>170260650 makes sense though.
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Is it a good idea to use beast pellets with weapons like the arm, which have a small, negligible amount of arc damage? Or is it unreasonable?
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>>170262071
arm is mostly a strength weapon so yes it's fine.
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>>170256675
protip: add Inquisition to that list
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What exactly does "attack against open foes mean"?
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>>170265373
makes your counter-hits hit harder.
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>>170265373
I guess pancaked enemies?
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>>170265373
Basically Leo Ring
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When should I stop upgrading arcane if im going for a kos parasite build?
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>>170266373
50, 80 or 99
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>>170266373
50
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>>170266696
Fuck long way to go, what should I pair arcane with Dex or str?
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>>170266818
Vit
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hey guys about to ask a potentially stupid question here.

if i look up a chalice dungeon by glyph and it says i dont match the requirements for it how do i find out what the requirements are?
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>>170266881
So if you have the glyph you probably know the chalice type and if its FRC or not.
Are you in possession of said root chalice? have you ever made that FRC?
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>>170266881
Collect all the root chalices, make a depth 5 FRC chalice. You now meet the requirements for every chalice.
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>>170266818
there's no need to pair it with anything unless you want to specifically build for hmls. try getting 50vit, and the rest of your levels are for stat requirements for weapons you want to convert to arcane/elemental damage.
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>>170267072
Thanks
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>>170267020
>>170266993

i think i have only one root chalice, i think.

i hate to admit but the whole chalice dungeon system is rather confusing to me.
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So was the Scourge a result of the Hamlets curse? Or is it just a result of failing to ascend?
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Is there any reason to go to hintertomb at all?
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>>170267692
The Scourge a side effect of using the Old Blood. That's it. It's believed that the vermin which writhe inside of it are the actual things which cause the symptoms, but regardless, Old Blood creates beasts.

The Hamlet's curse was for Hunters who went mad from the hunt to end up in an ironic hell.
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>>170267219
Don't over complicate it. Basically, just beat BSB and Ebrietas to get their respective chalices. Go through the one you get from BSB and keep going through the non-root ones you get from completing the one before. Then when you can't progress further, switch to the one from Brie before eventually switching back.

Once you have beaten Queen Yarnham, just make a depth 5 Isz Root chalice with all 3 of the optional modifiers (fetid, rotted, cursed).

Then you are done.

>>170268090
Only if you want the Armor Set.
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>>170268090
Madman's Set, essential arcfag attire
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>>170268253
hey lucy
hey
Kanna is better than Tohru
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>>170268342
I know.
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>>170268530
Good for you.
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>>170268991
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What's up with that one cave area between the forest and the clinic with the poison and the giants?
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>>170268253

okay thank you, i will try my best!
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>>170270375
It's thought to be linked with the Fake Doctor and whatever hijinks she has planned.
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Redpill me on pure bloodtinge. Is it doable?
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>>170271701
It's kinda weak early on and I wasn't a big fan of the chikage but the bloodletter is amazing. I only wish you got it earlier.
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>>170271701
Using this build has the added effect of letting you use the Axe to great effect early on.
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What's the best kind of build for using the Saif and the cane.
It looks like another Skill-Arc build to me but I just wanna know what everyone else thinks.
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>>170272796
Why would it be ARC? They're pure SKL weapons.
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>>170273005
Ahh, I misread the normal version of the cane's gems. I thought it had Waning as the starting gem slot.
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What's the arc breakup point
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>>170229728
>100 runs for three 27.2% phys gems
More like 10-15 runs. And they will drop 0 or 2 chunks just as often as they will drop 1 chunk.
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>>170267020
You can actually just make a depth 4 FRC cursed and defiled root chalice of you want to save on depth-5 ritual materials
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>>170266818
Having ~25 STR to go with your 50 arc allows you to use boom hammer, HMLS, wheel, and tonitrus much more effectively than if you just had like 12 STR. This makes nourishing gems much more effective
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>>170274318
How do you mean exactly? Weapons scale to 50, tools scale all the way to 99.
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>>170273184
Why should the cane's starting gem sockets have any bearing on what your build will be?
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Wait why does Old Yharnam doesn't get Bloodmoon sky after killing Yhorm?
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>>170276414
Because you didnt use the stormruler

It doesnt though? weird, probably a dev oversight. i mean, who goes back to Old Yharnam at that point
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>>170276607
>i mean, who goes back to Old Yharnam at that point
I went to yahargul and accidently dropped to Paarls arena.
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>>170230026
Gehrman. As much as I love this fight, I think it's ridiculously easy. His attacks are heavily telegraphed and extremely punishable.
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>>170277474
On my way.
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>want to keep playing bb
>don't want to deal with all the chalice dungeon shit
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>>170268090
>Madman set
>Lower Hintertombs have Lost and Uncanny DLC-weapons on sale

That's pretty much it. And the final boss of Lower Hintertombs is pretty cool.
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>>170276414
>>170276607
The Blood Moon is localized directly over Yharnam and Yahar'gul. The Blood Moon was over Old Yharnam before, that's why it's full og beasts now and locked up.
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>>170278315
Thanks but I beat her myself now
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>>170278352
same but you get to a point when you need good gems

just power through the mandatorys and use glyphs my man
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Gesture Survey.
What gesture or gestures do you:
>greet somebody with?
>say farewell or end a session with?
>win a PVP match with?
And feel free to put others that don't necessarily pertain to any of the questions above.
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Would anyone be willing to help with Queen Yharnham?

Pass is bbgqueen
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>>170278942
But wait, bloodmoon rises when you're at burgertown, yet after the cutscene it's not even there.
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>>170280905
>Greet
Respect
>Farewell
League Oath
>Win
Hunter's Salutation
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>>170281017
Yeah man
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>>170280905
>greet
Wave. Looks goofy and friendly, sometimes I'll use a church bow. If using Beast's Embrace, L2, as everyone should.

>farewell
Joy and Wave, maybe crush a vermin?

>PVP
Usually just a bow
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>>170280905
>wave, or make contact if I'm feeling saucy
>vermin crush and a good old league heil
>respect or approval
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>>170280905
wave/oath
as above
joy if it was close/ bow if i won convincingly/brush of dust if they are using a shitter build/ make contact if they are broccoli
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>>170281160
>Wave
I always internally panic when using it because I feel like it lasts just slightly too long, and the host is already walking away as I wait for the gesture to end
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>>170281065
Well, strictly speaking, you're not in Bob's Burgers, you're in Moonside Lake which is an entirely different zone, and is a bit of a mystery as to where it actually exists or what it even is. It looms colossally right over us there, seemingly overwhelming us, but then we wake up just outside Yahar'gul. Also it's in Cathedral Ward, I forgot.
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>>170281395
Is the moonside lake another nightmare realm or similair?
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>>170281153
Thanks for the help man, it was the last thing for the plat too
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>>170280905
>greet somebody with?
Joy.
>say farewell or end a session with?
Joy.
>host pulled a lever
Joy.
>host opened a chest
Joy.
>host killed a dangerous mob
Joy.
>host is opening the door
Joy.
>mid bossfight
TAKE A WILD GUESS BUDDY
>win a PVP match with?
Crush vermin or make contact.
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What is considered better, add physical atk or open foes?
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>>170280905
>greet somebody with
League oath ok my Str Character and Curtsy on my broccoli one.
>say farewell or end a session with
Wave
>win a PVP match with?
Joy
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>>170281836
Cheers, m8
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>>170281467
That's what I'm guessing. You can see the moon in some really weird places. The Hunter's Dream is by all rights the lowest layer of the Nightmare, yet there's a moon in the sky with the Hunter's Nightmare, Hamlet, Frontier and Mensis all above it. Space is weird there, so it's fine, NO idea where Moonside Lake would b, though, since it physically doesn't resemble any orher Nightmare locations, it's like some weird liminal space. It could quite literally be the veil hiding the ritual from us, Rom just powers it.
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>>170282163
>tiny flat numbers or another scaling percentage?
gee i wonder
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>>170282163
Finestrike is great for PvP, Tempering is better all-around
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>>170282245
With my Str Character*

Also
>addition to winning a PvP match
Spamming gun on his corpse if the guy spammed guns or heal or lured mobs.
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>>170280905
>greet somebody with?
Wave/Make Contact
>say farewell or end a session with
Approval/Wave/Deep Respect
>win a PVP match with?
Deep Respect or Vermin Crush.
All of these are Make Contact if they are an ayy.
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>>170280905
>greet somebody with?
Wave unless I'm helping someone with my League character, when I do League Oath
>say farewell or end a session with?
Wave or League Oath
>win a PVP match with
No gesture, I just stand still
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I'm reading the wiki now and is there a reason not to use Fool physical gems? I never see them mentioned here so I assume the wiki is wrong on something.
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>>170223209
This is actually my first time in the general because I just started playing the game this week.
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>>170283263
they are always going to be weaker than an equivalent phys percentage gem
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>>170283289
I've also started playing less than a month ago and as far as I can tell there is a constant stream of new posters.
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Does anyone have any subtle Bloodborne papes?
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>>170283263
Too situational, also a bitch to farm.
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>>170283263
Maybe because you're almost never at exactly full HP unless you're using Blood Vials willy-nilly in which case you're so bad at the game that a shitty little Fool gem won't help you?
I mean, if you're doing Cursed Chalice Dungeons where your HP is so low almost any attack is a one-hit kill, knock yourself out.
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>>170283449
>>170283541
>>170283561
Yeah I'm a Fool, I managed to completely ignore the special requirement part. What about this >>170282418 though, are the counterhit windows in this game long enough to really capitalize on that? Does rollcatching/hitting them while they're firing a gun/using a tool also count?
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>>170283847
>Does rollcatching/hitting them while they're firing a gun/using a tool also count?
Yes. In fact, there's already a damage bonus of, I think, 40% for hitting someone during these windows, which is the reason bodging a dodge against, say, Ludwig, can kill you but doing nothing leaves you with a sliver of health. Those Finestrike gems simply add onto that +40% bonus, in which case you can inflict massive damage on those R1 spammers and dodgy squirrels
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>>170284109
Sounds intredasting, +40% seems like a whole lot, where can I get them? I checked the pastebin but didn't see anything regarding them, though I might just be a sorry fool
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>>170280905
>greet
throw a pebble
>farewell
wave
>win a pvp
americlap
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>>170284382
The best come from Watchers in Ihyll and Isz, so choose any FRC Ihyll/Isz glyph you want.
Good luck, though. The drop rate is incredibly low.
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>>170284425
>greet
>throw a pebble
nice
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>>170284425
>greet somebody with?
Church bow(female)
>say farewell or end a session with?
Point forward (at player), then Madras Whistle
>win a PVP match with?
Kos Parasite L2
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I went to the moonside lake after I killed Gehrman because I assumed the bloodmoon would have been visible there too and it may be would have caused the ocean to turn a red color like a sea of blood, but nah nothing changes.

there are some things in this game that I thought were obviously included, but they aren't. kind of disappointing but whatever it makes up for it in other ways.
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>>170286365
I mean to be fair, who would actually go back to moonside lake. Its a boss arena with no way out besides teleporting by lamp. There's also zero reason to go back there. I guess its just developers not bothering with it if no-one is going to go back there
Still a shame though, would've made for some nice visuals
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>>170286365
>>170286791
I don't know, I think there's precedence for the moon not being there. It works fucking weird in the first place, plus Moonside Lake is also a big weird mystery area that doesn't quite fit in with the others. We see it there, but my opinion is it passed through there, or from there, into the waking world.
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>sitting in front of failures door waiting to get summoned
>hear bradors bell start ringing several times really far apart
I don't know why the fuck I'm so spooked by that bell
Is this what simon felt like?
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>>170287154
I kinda feel like the surface of Moonside Lake where we fight Rom is a membrane between two worlds: ours and cosmos. After all, MicoMicoNi did mention a grand lake of mud, and deep sea rune says something about great volumes of water serving as a bulwark guarding the eldritch truth (the Bloodmoon).
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>>170287563
I would have liked it if he started invading before you picked up the key, but the key was in a hidden place instead of right at the end of the DLC.
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>>170280905
This is going to out me as a massive scrub but how do you gesture without opening the little menu thing?
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>>170288225
L M A O
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>>170288225
You hold down X and then flail your controller like you're a Loonie Toons character.

Took me a while to figure out, too.
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>>170288225
When you open the gesture menu each slot has a movement depicted under it
Press and hold the x button, then execute that movement to do the associated gesture
>All those times trying to skip dialogue only for my character to gesture because i shake my controller slightly while mashing x
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Am I right in the assumption that using Beast Blood Pellets in PvP rewards you for being good and punishes for being bad while also forcing you to be more agressive yet control yourself and avoid getting parried? I see no real downsides to using it, seems like a pretty fun way of gitting gud.
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>>170288687
>Sitting down cross-legged in front of poor Simon as though you're watching his last moments with rapt attention
That makes Simon's death even sadder than it already is
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>>170288739
Simple: There's no need to use them in PvP. Unless you're undergemmed, a couple solid hits will kill the opponent with or without Pellets, so there's no need to chance it.
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Complete BB (and Souls) noob. What level should I be around before fighting father Gascoigne, and should I fight the boss on the bridge behind the werewolves first?
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>>170289028
B-but with pellets I'd kill them even faster!
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Oh, Machine, when will you learn?
Your love of that Memento comic is astounding.
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>>170289176
you should be able to kill the bridge boss without levelling up, and you should collect enough echoes to level a few times between killing that and gascoigne. most kill him at around level 18 first run
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Guess who that other anon was, the one who suggested it?
It was me.
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A good day, indeed
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>>170287701
Yeah, that seems about right. A liminal space, it's the actual veil.
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>>170289176
The key to beating cleric beast for a noob, IMO, is not getting distracted/intimidated by its size. Basically treat it like a scourge beast(werewolf) with an especially large health bar.
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>>170289950
I really adore the duality of the Vileblood/Executioner conflict.
Even their builds are the opposite: strarc vs sklblt.
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>>170289950
>filename
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Well, tonight I start my pure arc build.
Wish me luck guys.

Anybody want to play through the whole game with me by any chance?
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Does anyone want to kill chalice rom with me?
Pass: bbg
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>>170291062
Sure, I'm on my way now.
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is a call beyond worth it? is it nearly as devastating as I'm assuming?
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>>170291297
Absolutely but it can only be used sparingly, like the cannon
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>>170291297
PvE; yes, but the damage only really becomes worth it's cost as 70+ ARC.
PvP; no, the tracking is terrible and the missles have such a heavy knockdown that you cannot chain successive shots. Waste of bullets, while leaving you very vulnerable.
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>>170289176
fight the cleric beast first, you'll die and be able to level up for the first time. like the other anon said treat him like a werewolf, stay behind him and dodge towards whatever side the attack is coming from. also, start practicing your visceral attacks in preparation for Gascoigne because it will be a life saver for you. he's hard as fuck and you're gonna have trouble with him because he is the fastest enemy you first encounter, and he can kill you in 3-4 hits.
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>>170291297
its pointless at 50 arc but great at 99 arc. stopping between 50 and 99 arc is for silly sausages so unless youre going 99 arc then theres no reason to use it
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>>170291195
Is SRRC being slow again?
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>>170289176

Gascoigne tips: Hid behind the gravestones to the right spam him with long distance attacks while you are locked on. When he goes full AWOO just run away from him and spam his ass with molotov cocktails when he is done attacking
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>>170291534
>>170291865
my arcane is 27. how many fucking blood echoes does it take to level up that high? damn, I want to upgrade my skill and vitality too.
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>>170292075
Yeah.
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>>170291816
Great. I already fought and died against the cleric beast once so I did unlock leveling. Since then I've been skiddish about trying again and I've just been farming all the normal monsters to slowly level up and buy items.
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>>170291865
>is for silly sausages
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>Nonstop Nioh for a month
>Go back to Bloodborne now that I'm done
>Load into the dream

This is going to take some readjustment. 60FPS spoiled me, this feels like slow motion.
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>>170291816
>>170292158
Dont forget to use the music box once he hits phase two.
Do NOT use it in phase one, he'll just get pissed off and transform earlier.
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>>170292176
I'm going to restart my PS4. Give me a second
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>>170291865
2000+ dmg with a single shot is never pointless.
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>>170292194
>I've just been farming all the normal monsters to slowly level up and buy items.
Everyone's going to tell you this already but please don't. It's frankly better to just look up guides/videos if you HAVE to. All leveling up does is give you a bigger buffer for fucking up, and frankly the game already gives you a pretty fair margin. I say this as a total scrub who uses 20 vials on every new boss.

If you're overleveled, you won't actually learn how to play the game properly and won't get the satisfaction of mastering the mechanics. Even if you "cheat" by looking up optimal strategies, you'll still learn SOMETHING. Being overleveled just lets you keep using the same noob tactics.
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>>170292398
>2000+ damage that costs 7 bullets and upwards of 70 points of investment to work
>while builds that only invest 50 points can also hit this damage by emptying an uninvested stamina bar
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>>170292637
Emptying your stamina bar is more risky than firing ACB.
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>>170292757
>entering an undodgeable state and using 7 whole bullets is more risky than hitting the attack button
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>>170292839
It is because ACB can be fired from a safe distance.
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I'm ringing again if anyone wants to help me kill chalice rom
Pass: bbg
and rush the beast claws if anyone is up for it. This is the beast claw anon from earlier
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>>170292265
Didn't bother me none coming back from DS2. It was like coming home.
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>>170292265
won't take long to readjust but it's extremely jarring at first
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>>170292912
retard or troll detected
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>>170293547
>entering an undodgeable state near the enemy is safer than entering an undodgeable state far from the enemy
Yes, there's definitely a retard in this thread.
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>>170293038
Beast Claw, you said? Ringing now.
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>>170292265
Is Nioh worth it? Target has a buy two get one free thing going on right now and I'm having a tough time picking a third game. My biggest concern is that it's basically BB minus story/atmosphere. I enjoy BB enough(much more than I thought I would) but without that going for it I dunno if I'd pay more than 20-30.
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beat amygdala in the defiled chalice first try :^)
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>>170293746
by the time you cast it the enemy will have closed the gap
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>one shot
>by chalice rom
I am of shame
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>>170293896
Get good at positioning.
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Sorry moonlit Jameson. I guess for today I'm a complete shitter.
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>>170293761
That's basically it but you could argue it has better and deeper combat, and the whole Japan thing if you're into that. I enjoyed it for those aspects and got a good 80h out of it.
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>>170294257
Don't worry, I'll make sure to see you through it.
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>>170293761
More complicated combat (not necessarily better), zero atmosphere.
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what level is optimal for the DLC??
So far ive been around 75 and have stemrolled all 4 bosses, (havent met Orphan yet).

Have I leveled too high?
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>>170294625
65+, you just got good I suppose. Orphan won't be as forgiving probably.
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>>170294747
Funny enough though, Ive lost way more times to the undead giant in the chalice because of his fucking "le ebin 1 shot kill move" any other boss in the dlc

Fucking gimmicky shit
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If anyone is still tagging along the journey on getting me the beast claw, wait by SRRC. I'm going to run my ass off and get the ritual mats and get into ailing loran
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>>170294096
lel, youre actually a moron :(
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>>170293761
I'd say Nioh is worth it, yes. The ki recovery system takes a bit of time to get used to, but after that it feels bretty gud. Also 1600s Japanese history, which is kind of neat.

There only being five weapons is a bit of a bummer, but with all of them having three different movesets- and customizable movesets, to an extent- makes it less painful.
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>>170294965

>undead Chalice Giant

jesus fuck that dude. Me and another guy co-oped him last night and that shithead killed me five times in a row just jumping at me as i opened the door. I eventually learned to roll forward
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>>170293761
>>170295025
I'm considering getting it as well, because I've played the demos and enjoyed it immensely but from what I've seen the enemy variety is really low, so I'm kind of hesitating.
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>>170295096
I was too overleveled when I met his first version, so he wasnt really that hard. His second version is fucking shit
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>>170294965
Ball/Chain Giant? You gotta take your time with him, he's honestly the easiest type. If it's 2kat then yeah he can be annoying, the jump attack really punishes straying too far off and vialing.
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>>170295316
At least the jump is easy to punish, as there are no followups.
The ballchain one likes to mixup between smashing instantly with a club after a spin and not doing so, so you have to be really careful and only punish him once he does the club followup, which makes it a fucking test of faith.
He's so fucking boring, really. At least the one with two hooks is faster and can actually jump, which makes the fight more dynamic.
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Sack faggots won't drop ritual blood 4 :^(
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>>170296217
keep trying
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>Get invaded for the first time on my blind playthrough, right before Mergos Wet Nurse
>I proceed to destroy him twice in the fight
>he gives up and bells out
He was using a big wheel weapon and the axe.
Is most invasions like this? He had too heal up twice and then gave up and cancelled the invasion. Or is the wheel thing just a meme weapon??
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>>170296272
Try the watchers guarding the lever, they drop it as well.
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>>170296275
He sounds like a shitter

You're lucky it wasn't a chikagay user who'd just unzip you for a million health and you'd wonder what the point was
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>>170296217
I farmed for 4 hours to get fuck all. If you don't have any from them yet, just go through Lower Pthumeru.
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>>170296441
Is there an arena or something is this game?
And what do you get out of invading? Dont you just lose insight on ringing it?
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>>170296275
Wheel is okay, hits hard with the right setup like any other weapon (tricked dash r1s with Flat Arcane gems are devestating). You just met a shitty player
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>>170295096
Glad I'm not the only one. Worst thing imo is he basically punishes you constantly, whether you're close(fucking sweeping attacks) or far. Hit-and-run seems to be the only thing that works and it's tedious as fuck, plus when a fight drags on like that you've less of a margin for error.

>killed me five times in a row just jumping at me as i opened the door
seriously m8?
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Anyone want to spelunk a Lower Loran FRC? Pass is bbgloran if anyone's interested, I'll be beckoning in the first hallway.
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>>170296556
No arena, people pvp at Frontier and Mergo's before Wet Nurse. There's fight clubs every Saturday here too. Mostly everyone has FRC gems so if you want to join it's ideal you get some better gems after finishing Chalice Dungeons. You gain Insight from killing players, nothing is lost if you die. With the Corruption Rune you get dregs too, when popped they give another Insight.
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Beast claw anon here, finally got all the mats but have to go somewhere for a sec. sorry about making you guys wait if anyone was waiting.
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>>170296892
I'm sorry Jameson, I'm super rusty.

Beckoning again.
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>>170297803
No problem man, I ain't judgin.
>>
I am a Living Failure
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>>170296556
Yes and no. We have private chalices for fight clubs.

In the main game, the Nightmare Frontier and Nightmare of Mensis are the only places in the game where you can be naturally invaded (it has those bell maidens), in other places you need have to spawned one by ringing your beckoning bell for co-op.

As for invading, people do it for fun, or for covenant items like blood dregs and vermin and stuff.
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Holy shit I just finished Ludwig and Maria and both fights were awesome.

To be honest I havent liked playing this game a lot, compared to Dark Souls 3 - but these two bosses where super cool. Marias moveset is really well made. And the whole atmosphere vs Ludwig is great, especially when he enters his second phase, the cutscene got me hyped as fuck. None of the bosses in this game has really gotten me hyped (other than these two), ive felt most of them were really annoying and like a chore. But damn I love these two.
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>>170298263
>vermin
You get vermin for invading?
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>>170298494
...Do you not? I could have sworn you did.
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>>170298363
Bosses make the DLC truly great. Love both of them, and Orphan too.

>TFW using an underleveled BLT character and Maria gave me more trouble than Ludwig
It was great, I wish there weren't so many ways to cheese her on proper builds
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>>170299213
Do you want to find out in one of the FC chalices?
;^)[/spoiled]
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DLC levels with NG+ correct? i havent got it yet but i feel like when i do im gunna take it on in like new game +2
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First chalice hotdog gave me a triangle instead of a radial.

>just fuck my ARC build up senpai
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Can someone explain me the lore of Ludwig and Maria?

Whats the deal with Ludwig becoming a horse?
Why does Maria attack us, even though she lets us go?
>>
Anybody wanna fuck around in the last two layers of a FRC Ithyl dungeon? pw is shaka
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Does anyone want to run through ailing loran?
Pass: bbg
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>>170300749
>Whats the deal with Ludwig becoming a horse?
He became a beast like most hunters
>Why does Maria attack us
To protect the secret
>even though she lets us go
Go where?
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>>170300749
Church members turned into the most horrible beasts. Ludwig's connections with the Church, and thus, the blood, drove him to take a more monstrous form when he inevitably turned.

Maria is trying to warn you to leave dead bodies be, foreshadowing to the dead corpse of Kos hidden deep within the fishing hamlet.
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God dammit I'm sorry Jameson. I used a blood vial and the tiny movement triggered an arrow trap.

Beckoning again.
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>>170302871
No worries. I'm callin it karma fer ya lil cannon prank ya cheeky goob.
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ho lee fuck. I just beat OoK for the first time ever, on like my 8th try. I may have already been Level 98 but I dont even give a shit. Wow. I am so jacked up right now. Just time his swings while you are locked on and dodge. Wow wow wow
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>>170302987
>Fully charged Stake R2
>Only 1400 damage

I'm a little upset.
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NEW THRED WEN?
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>>170303337
I'm making it
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>>170303337
NEW THREAD:
>>170303518
>>170303518
>>170303518
>>170303518
>>170303518
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Well, it's been a fun ride, Jameson. No layer four, but I did get an abyssal with attack down. I'm off to eat for now, might make another dungeon when I get back.
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>>170300749
He was the most noble of hunters, but he resisted the scourge for so long that, when he finally popped, he popped real bad. The worst anyone has ever changed.

Maria, she killed herself out of grief for the Hamlet massacre and guards its secret. We straight up kill her forever.
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>>170304008
Right on, bud. Thanks for hosting!
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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