/twg/ - Total War General

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>>170052332
ROLLAN

>>170052462
Let's see!

>>170052501
>>170052462
Reroll because I just finished as PRINCE AND EMPEROR

I saw a vision of Gilles Le Breton.
He told me you were a faggot

>>170052462
Might as well

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>>170052462

D A W I
A
W
I

Nth for I miss tomb kangz guy

>>170052462
Muh chivalry

What the fuck happened with Bretonnia?

Did they change designers? How did they suddenly come up with lots of good ideas after the complete trainwreck Welfes were?

>>170052798
>>170052816
Nevermind I don't miss you anymore

>>170052861
>after the complete trainwreck welfes were
u wot

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GOBLINS

>want to fight chaos without using auto resolve
>don't want to have fights with 2+ stacks
Is lightning strike my only option? It's not that I can't handle a fight with ~40 units, but it feels like much more of a slog at that point.

>>170053250
I feel you anon, it's just not enjoyable to manage 40 units

>>170052975
Better off dead.

>>170052975
WE IZ

what's better - steel faith or proper combat?

>>170053806
Steel faith is shit

>>170053806
Proper combat is shit

>>170053825
>>170053998
Helpful as always

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>>170052975
DAWI

>>170052462
dubs the suneater

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>>170052975
Skarsnik did nothing wrong

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>watery harlot

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>>170054446

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why are cities marked as being special for bretonnia but there are no special buildings for brets once you control it?

>dwarves won't leave their mountains to help you in a war, ever
>even after confirming that yes, they have received your war target and will be moving out
>as soon as they're at war with you they're fucking masters of hit and run guerilla warfare

I remember now why I hate these fucking games.

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>>170054446
>insulting ze lady

>>170054878
Dwarfs needs to stew in anger for 30 or 40 turns before they come down from their holds to kick someones shit in.

Name an unit more cost effective than forest goblins spider riders.

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>a 10 hellcannon unit stack

I really wish the Beastmen and the Greenskins were like Bretonnia where each LL has his own faction, is there a mod that does that?

>>170055109

Gothic Warband

>>170054446
>watery harlot
You don't even have to push that button, you've already declared war.

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>>170052332
>Empire campaign on VH/VH.
>First time at these difficulties
>Fuck around in Reiksland camping until I have access to everything
>Shit like 20/20 Skullsmashers on turn 5, poopoo peepee goats and mariensberg being an asshole
>campaign going alright, trying to get on foot enchantress goodside because waifu, maintaining good relationships with other states
>but the elves
>elves harassing the shit out of foot enchantress and everyone else
>brayherds come and they get fucked even more
>rally my men to fuck shit up
>win a few battles, too battered to really push into the forests
>fay enchantress destroyed
>fucking elves
>attempt to rally to get my revenge despite elves crying peace
>then I realize that Varg and Norsca are literally fielding 10+ stacks each
>chaos isn't even here they're just raping shit
>vampire cunts are doing the same
>whatwouldsigmardo
>probably not ally with elves but this is what I do
>slowly push northshits back with help from elves, liberating and vassalizing other empire states
>ally with dwarves to help with vampire counts, they've already fucked the greenskins to death so hard their corpse had a bearded child
>Orion declares fucking war on the dwarves making me choose
>He is poised to completely fuck my ass if I decline
>sorrydwarfbros
>have to abandon vampire cleansing to fortify cities from dwarves
>continue to work with elves to rid the land of northshits
>many turns later, vampire counts are dead, norsca and varg are done, and dwarves are pissed but no longer screaming for my blood
>towards the end of my crusades pull most of my men back to the edge of athel lorien
>raise a 19 tank army under the master of metal, bankrupting myself
>follow orion with my best lord as best I can
>they think I've forgiven
>they think the long months fighting together has made me forget the dwarves lost in a war they started, the human cities razed, the voice of my waifu
>final northshits are purged
>men are in position
>mfw

>>170055185
>Wot m8
Beastmen and greenskins already have 3 different

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>>170054446
>that mewling hag

>>170055293
I meant the lords all have their own tribe and not generic "beastmen" or "greenskin"

>>170055293

Beastmen are not actually separate. While they have three different start positions they are all the same faction, so cannot be played together in coop.

>>170055421

Well there are 3 different orc factions already.

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>>170054878
>Rome2
>Libya is my client state
>tell them to attack what's left of Egypt
>"on it, boss"
>they proceed to march 3 full stacks all the way north to the fucking Black Sea
>they bitchslap some horsefucker army in ponto-caspia
>spend the next 15 years marching back to libya

Thanks guys, I was really threatened by that half-stack of spearmen.
They eventually took aethiopia from Egypt but I had to wait 20 turns and destroy two emergent factions in the process. Fucking client states, man.

Lizardmen when

TOD did nothing wrong.

>>170054878
>>170055506
I remember that bullshit in R2, but in atilla and tww I've always had good experiences with allies helping out.
Bretonnia camped out near one of my constantly rebelling cities to put down uprisings.

>>170055671
10 months

>>170055506
>>170055703
I just like having vassals and proxy wars, and not worrying about personally defending huge swathes of territory.

But then the AI reminds you that every faction is working against you, whether they're allied to you or at war with you. That these are not dwarves, known for their ale in good times and reliability in war, but lines of code hell bent on shitting down the player's throat at every opportunity. That this is a game and that you are alone.

>>170053806
Steel Faith is alright, since it is just one big mod that includes most of what you want, but I hate a few of the changes. Two examples being I like to play on VH campaign, but VH campaign for Steel Faith makes the Dawi NPC factions even more annoying to deal with, and I don't like how massive garrisons can get at low levels. I personally prefer to stick to Proper Combat.

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Now this is confederating.
Gonna take control over Talabecland, that moved into Ostland and seized their territories. Snow orks burned one province, but Talabcland colonized it back. Meanwhile, one of my lords back home is trying to deal with Crooked Moon Goblins and Beastmen. Beastmen were dumb and got caught out, so their stack is gone for now. The goblins are a more pressing concern. I have many allies though.

>>170055481
Well I meant the Beastmen more than anything >>170055424
But it would be cool if Azhag lead his own faction

>>170054981
kick someones shin* in

How the FUCK do I take on Marienburg with Bretonnia at the start?

>>170055896
I actually have this Celtic client state in the north, I literally shoveled several hundred thousand talents into them and they own most of western Europe north of Raetia et noricum. They do a great job containing the bullshit that is the Germans in this game. Also their campaign colour is red just like mine so it looks like I own the whole of yurop. Proxy wars really are great. Shame I can't do it n Asia minor because everyone there is in this mega-alliance.

>>170056218

It's really simple anon, you just have to git gud

>>170052462
rolling

>>170056347
Not powerful enough to take them on early, and if you leave them they will massively outnumber you

Sounds like a case of 'just use exploits'

>>170056403

This is what I did

>Turn 1, move to Marienburg's border, recruit some swordsmen / spears, build stables
>Turn 2, fuck up the orcs
>Turn 3, move back to the border, recruit more
>Turn 4, ambush at the border
>Turn 5 or 6, Marienburg's army arrives and you ambush them
>Siege, done

Anyone up for some mindless multiplayer fun with meme armies?

Make a room

>>170056540
>>170056403

You can also bee-line across the river and take their minor, then peace them out immediately.

>>170056223
I've had good vassals like those in attila and R2, but god damn these fuckers in warhammer. damn them all.

>3rd turn besieging the enemy dwarves after brutal slugfest outside their city
>getting ready to put the towers up and kill every last one of them
>my "allies" who I got dragged into this war to defend in the first place decide the job's done and make peace
>they never once fought the enemy

>>170056724
Warhammachiavelli played you

>>170056724
I've never had an AI army assist me in the hundreds of hours I've put into this game.

In fact the only time war co-ordination ever works for me is when I send the AI after a weakened force. They go and attack it with a full stack of their strongest soldiers then immediately go back to turtling in their castle.

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I've got to admit. The last battle of Bretonnia is epic as fuck and quite hard too

>>170056724
Yeah, they pull some stupid shit.
>new faction rises from all the rebellions
>client state declares war
>struggles taking a single city
>I, too, declare war and march in
>win the siege
>decide to subjugate them
>this doesn't break the war with the other client state
>they keep fighting and hate me if I sign treaties with either of them

This bullshit should be stopped

Velcome to fair Bretonnia.

>>170056931
Quest battle?

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Rock the... boat?

>>170056985
Yes.
You got to choose between stopping Chaos and stopping the Greenskins after you reach 800+ chivalry. Imo, Greenskin is easier

>>170056724
In my opinion this kind of inconsistency is why a warscore system like 4x games use might be useful.

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Ork hold razed to the ground, never shall they bother the empire again. Too bad it came significant time and effort for Franz. The west is going to shit, and fast. Middenheim will soon be upon us. Im wondering if I should disband the army. Then raise Franz again closer to home. Would that even work?

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>>170057032
>the mice in the wheel

So, if the second game is a standalone game on its own, and you can play it without owning the first one, how are they going to do the Redditrats? What about Skavenblight? Does it mean that every DLC ratfucker LL will start in Lustria?

>Been a fan of Gorfang Rotgut for the past 20ish years
>Neglected to fuck since 4th edition
>Finally gets mentioned again in Fantasy during end times
>He's killed off screen and then they kill the franchise
>Find out he appears in TW:W
>Not a proper character at all

Stop making me want DLC.

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>>170052462
roll

>>170058408
>Rotgut was killed.
>Skarsnik was forgotten.
GW deserves to collapse.

>>170058042
Damn, now I want to see the Doomwheel in TW.

>>170058756
>There will never be another skarsnik book

why even live

>>170058260
Maybe there will be one that starts in Skavenblight, available as DLC only for the first part.

>>170057763
Pretty sure disbanded lords can't be recruited again for a few turns.

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Go home Vlad
you're drunk

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>>170058408

Give me a quick rundown on Gorfang Rotgut

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>Fortified city with large garrison and army
>Attack the idiot lord with 1 unit sitting outside
>The reinforcements from the city come from behind
>Box them in and slaughter them

Makes me feel kind of unchivalrous tho

Is it just me or do Bretonnian wall towers in sieges hurt like fuck?

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First attempt for Bretonnia on Legendary

>>170059995
they do fucking work, praise the lady they exist

>tfw in the dow3 beta

It's not so bad, ask me anything.

>>170060083
how much like the 1st is it? any of the second stay or did they go full blown back to their roots?

>>170060161

It's pretty similar to the 1st expansions (elites dominate standard units), my problem is that I'm still playing it like the second so I find myself with 5 squads most of the time, when I should be having a lot more

the only game mode in the game has objectives that resemble a moba, destroy the turret and enemy power core, but other than that it's an rts, some heroes have moba like skillshots

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what are the comfiest battle maps

>>170060553
Those are some nice houses. Bretonnians are so lucky.

Did they fix magic scaling on ultra size?

>>170060553
That looks cute.

Reminds me of that one tabletop adventure map. Wonder if you could set up a 'Godzilla' style map, where your forces fight over, through and around a tiny city?

>Destroy Marienburg's gates with Trebuchets
>Flood knights in through the wall
>Drown the walls in peasants

FOR ZE LADY

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>>170052975
Wut about 'em.

How do you feel about floppy hats?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=849918459

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>close victory

>>170061341
Oooh, almost had it. Have to be quicker than that.

I think that the Errantry Crusade final mission should have included an option to kill the vampires. Also, a final option to do all three in sequence, first orcs, then vampires, then chaos.

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>>170061592

>tfw no final mission with a resurgent Mousillon where you fight The Red Duke or Malloublade against endless stacks of Undead

how the fuck do you start as casteronne. shit tier units with 0 leadership. ALL nearby provinces are just full flags sitting in massivly walled castles / impenetrable trees (which you cant take control of even if you beat them). You cant confederate the other bretts until ur strong enough, but u cant support sufficient strength on ur shitty starting economy

>>170052462
rolling

>>170061650
That would've been great, although a lot easier to get to compared to the chaos/orc errantry wars.

>>170052462
miniatures are gay

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>>170061650
>Mallobaude arises in Mousillon in an event that takes the province from you
>Spawns six full armies of elite undead to protect his town.
>They do not cross the border at first.
>But after twenty turns, another six full armies will spawn, and twelve armies will ravage Bretonnia.
>You must answer the challenge in twenty turns and go to the quest marker
>There, your army, and Mallobaude's twenty elite blood dragon units will face off in a final joust.
>No peasants, knights only, no flanking, just slapping into head on charges at each other until it's over.

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>>170061783

>you will never unite the lands of Bretonnia and lead the charge into the gigantic legions of undead

;_;

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>'ow many layers of cunnin' iz ya on rite now, Grimgor?

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>>170061973

>Defensive Alliance with Greenskins

Now I've seen everything

>>170062038
They are strength rank 1 and 2 and I'm afraid of pushing into the badlands now.

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God dammit Artois

>>170061927
Pegasus seems like the most impractical beast to ride into battle.

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>>170061927
Tomb kings crusade when?

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>Bretonnia get +5 faction wide public order bonus whenever they confederate

CA hate the Empire, don't they?

AWAKEN
MY
DAWIS

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>>170062315

I love you.

>>170061973
>So cunnin' yer enemies ally with da stunties just to krump ya

You really is Mork 'imself

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Currently playing on legendary

Rate my progress laddites

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>>170062198
This version is better desu

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Human Legendary Lords.

Fuck, Marry, Kill?

Fay Enchantress doesn't apply.

>>170062136
>confederate with Artois and Lyon in one turn
>go from 12 to 68 pesant units

hmmm

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>>170062563

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Post music to smite the unholy by

https://youtu.be/k0QNJAbolNE

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>>170063000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyDKezDLGTM

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>>170063000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73WWpKyuWL4

>>170052462
rollin

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>>170063000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePRZC_OulYc

Outta my way, vampire fucking shits!

>>170063000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE23Gqnlnc

For fighting in Bretonnia in general.

>>170052462
roe

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What to do with emperial distrust? Is it even possible to confederate with them? Im playing a bretonnia campaign atm.

>>170063401
Doesn't Imperial Distrust just mean they distrust the Empire? Shouldn't matter much to you in that case.

>>170062198
Araby crusade when?

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>>170052332
See guys! Legend is in touch with the memes that the young people like. Bet this campaign will be entertaining for the followers of Kek!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ZJAtPRmaI

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Historically accurate S3 when

>>170063601
Never, rule of cool sells games, if you still don't believe that, you haven't followed total war.

>>170063570

This guy is so fucking greedy it wouldn't surprise me if he's trying to bank on the kids that follow sargon/arch

>>170063601
Sauce?

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>>170063648
I know, but one can only speculate

>>170063721
Ballad: Namonaki Koi no Uta

It's a weird movie with some time travel involved.

>>170063741
Shogun 2 is too highly rated and too recent for CA to consider another Shogun, possibly forever. And i am of that belief as well, you can never get 100% realism but the game is still fucking great.

Now Medieval, that one still stands without a modern equivalent.

>>170063673
Legend? Greedy?

We talking about the same guy? He's humble as fuck man.

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>>170063839

>>170061341
Nice work making use of those Knights of the Realm there, 'friend'.

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>>170062358
y-you too.

>>170062207
They're right to do so T B H

post deep and complex diplomacy conversations

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>>170063810
Medieval 3 with M2's moddability would be nice.

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>>170063995

>>170064040
>grand dutchy
>dutchy
w-what

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bretty cool

I like how it explains how you get the traits now.

>>170063995
Karak Norn once said to me 'Speak at me in your horrid tongue, if you must'. I was playing as the Dwarfs.

>>170064016
Any new TW game with M2's modability would be awesome.

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>>170063995

>>170064075
It's a stupid misspelling the modder did and never fixed it.

I had to fix it myself.

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>>170063995

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>>170063995

I could go for some pike and shot for the next TW, desu. Late 1500s into the 30 years war.

>>170063443
Thought it meant distrust against the confederator. They seem more willing now suddenly. Thanks

>>170062038
It happens pretty often if you, as a player, do not ally with either.

>>170064213
>having to pay for childcare

>>170064239
Wouldn't mind this, but it should show the evolution of warfare from the Late Medieval, through the Renaissance and into the Early Industrial. Maybe 1450-1700 to fill in the gap between the end of Med 2 and the beginning of Empire.

That way you could play Rome 2, Attila, Medieval 2, Renaissance: Total War, Empire and then Napoleon all in sequence.

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>>170064093
Yeah. Then I can make my Empire Earth Total War dream mod come true. Like Thera but with historical rosters

>>170064348
>the evolution of warfare

This is likely, considering how CA have gone on record saying they're not really interested in depicting a static period where warfare didn't change or advance much. Hence why there'll never be anything like a Bronze Age: Total War.

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>>170064239
You and me both anon. I'd fucking love an early modern TW. So much scope for a game and mini campaigns like English Civil War, 30 Years War and even up to Spanish War of Succession.

>>170064239
Been playing Pike and Shot: Campaigns for a bit, could definitely go for a TW incarnation.

>>170064470
It's kinda funny that they could actually push the series way into the late 1800s. Napoleonic tactics were still in use then, it'd just be way deadlier.

The thing about the pike and shot era is that the diffrence between the various tactics that arose around that time made way more of a diffrence on the battlefield than the slight changes in 1800. People like Maurice of Orange, Gustavus Adolphus, and tactics like the spanish tercio made such a huge diffrence.

>>170064127
>W-we don't want peace with you, baka. We just want you to fight something else, ok? Hmph!

Tsundere Varg?

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>>170063995

>>170064449
The recent alpha last week for Arena had Napoleonic Lancers in its loading screen, so that webm may be a reality in the future.

Dose zoggin' stunties to da east haf taken valayas sorrow from me. How do I stomp dem when dey haf so much armor.

>>170064449
what comercial?

Ok i am brand new to toal war/strat games so can someone tell me what the fuck i am doing wrong. i started a game and picked the vampire guys because they seemed cool and i like being able to summon the dead etc. but it seems like i go, fight one time, come back and then the enemy has a huge army and the only way i can fight them is by building an army so big it puts me in bankruptcy. i keep on losing and starting again but i can figure it out. i know im a retard but i never play these types of games.

>>170064621
>>170064621
they've been there and back senpai, fots was lethal to the extreme and awesome

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>>170064803
Holy fuck.

No way

>>170064819
Battle of Evony: Return of the King. It makes me a little distraught that such a shit game can generate enough revenue to fund such a high budget commercial.

I mean, holy fuck it's got Fan BingBing in it.

>>170064817
learn english first, dumb orcposter

How do you guys do sieges with Wood Elves? Auto-resolve?

>peasant economy
damn, this shit is gonna make a fall of brettonia campaign, where I play as peasants only, incredibly hard, still gonna do it though, just need to start as the fay and grab tech that gives more peasants

>>170064929
Yoo'z a rude git

>>170064817
Wit yer choppa, ya dumb git!

What's some good lategame army compositions for dorfs? I've heard some people phase out the thunderers, but so far they haven't let my down.

>>170065008
Offensive or defensive?

Reminder that westernization is hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9SIVzjZhlk

>>170064817
Git sum of dem trolls an' gobbo ruck lobbas. I 'eard squigs also make nice work outta 'em.

>>170065102
Is that the guy from the Last Samurai?

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>>170063570
Yes this looks awesome, will have to watch it!

Praise Kek XD

>>170064803

>Napoleonic lancers
>Against ancient and medieval cavalry

unfair desu

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So i took Marienburg as Louen and gassed the happy merchants, i don't want it to have an imperial name, give me an appropriate bretonnian name for it.

>>170065260
In what sense do you mean? Wouldn't the lancers be at a massive disadvantage?

>>170065043
I'm a hundred turns in and my armies are still almost half quarrellers. Except for the armies I've gotten from factions that confederated with me. Those are usually almost half bolt throwers for some reason.

>>170065260
No idea how they're going to balance that, it's good to know it's still being considered though.

>>170065286
Marionbourg

>>170065063
Offensive.

I have a hard time doing them without any artillery, and end up sieging until attrition whittles down the enemy to a point where I can get an easy auto-resolve victory.

>>170065324
Download the better army compositions mod, that will stop this.

>>170065286
Mariénville

>>170064921

>have guns and bayonets
>throw rocks at each other

>>170065303
They would, time doesn't suddenly add lethality, the main point of lancers in the napoleonic time was that you could mobilize them reasonably fast and in great numbers during the levee en masse.

>>170065351
Typically I'll take the walls and then put my archers on them and rain hell down on whatever is left.

>>170063790
Thanks
>>170063741
Is this the same movie?

>>170065303

Are you out of your mind, lancers would have used much larger and powerful horses, they would have been phisycally stronger, their job was literally to hunt down other cavalry too.

Especially under napoleon when they had phisycal requirements, they would have towered over older cavalry

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>>170052462
Steel Faith update when? Ze Lady calls out to me

>>170065445
tommrow

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>>170065102
Holy fuck saved.

That's the box art for FoTS isn't it

>even my Japanese is mediocre

Fuck, my sides

>>170065389
i don't think those were rocks, judging by the explosions.

>>170065431
Also, their lances would just deal more damage from sheer stats than medieval lances. That's how it works in real life.

>>170065260
>>170065327
Maybe make Napoleonic era lancers cheaper and with larger unit sizes to show the ease of conscription and recruitment as time passes. Their weaponry would allow them to at least match medieval and classical cavalry in offense but the only thing they would lack is armor.

Thera balanced this out quite well.


>>170065414
No, not the same. Ballad is set in Japan.
The other one I posted is some Korean tv series set during the Imjin War

>>170065109
It'z only turn 11 or sumfin', I dun haf that fancy stuff yet.

I choppad 'em good tho, pansy gitz.

>>170065518

If real life was an RPG, the lancers would have much better stats in STR and STA

>>170061341
>1200 kills on louen and the green knight

fug

>>170065561
>>170065327
>>170065260
>>170065303
How do you think Line Infantry would be balanced?

>>170065609
using vidya gaem logic:
lancers are strong and faster but with lower hp, relies on initial impact to deal damage
medieval cav is slower but has more hp, deals steady damage overtime

>>170065609

I think it's fascinating how we have evolved not only technologically but also biologically in such a little period of time.

Talking about the western world obviously, there are parts in asia and africa where people are still as small and weak as they were a thousand years ago, we would tower over our ancestors.

>>170065043
Archaon has just showed up, but I'm usually gangbanging everything into submission with three armies full of thunderers, longbeards, bomb miners and cannons, but I'm still wondering if I should start going for some composition of Ironbreakers, Quarrelers and Drakes or something.

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>>170065609
I wonder how they'd fare in Skill and Morale.

Lancers aren't nobility but how would their training be compared to that of medieval knights'?

>>170065693
They'd absolutely dominate at mid-range but from afar they get fucked by Cretan Archers and in melee they get fucked by everyone else except cavalry.

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My enemies are many, my equals are none

In the shade of living trees they said Athel Loren could never be conquered

In the land of vampires and necromancers, they said Sylvania could never be humbled

In the realm of chaos and snow, they said Norsca could never be tamed

Now they say nothing, they fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in chivalry and death

I say, I am Louen Leoncoeur! I am King of Brettonia!

>>170065693
War bows would fuck up line infantry
>Longer range than line inf
>More in a unit
>can fire over things
>line inf wear NO armour

>>170065806

>In the shade of living trees they said Athel Loren could never be conquered

What's the point of attacking the Wood Elves anyway

>>170065806
I was waiting for someone to post this. The same voice actor also did Napoleon in a recent BBC series as well. Funny as hell.

>>170065782
That's less evolution and more nourishment. Turns out eating shittily as a kid affects your growth adversly.

>>170065806
>>170057032
Burn it!

TO MARIENBURG
34 MILES

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>>170065842
They worship Khorne and insult ze Lady.

>>170065806
REJOICE

>>170065798
>Lancers aren't nobility but how would their training be compared to that of medieval knights'?

They were full time soldiers propelled by the ideals of the revolution (in case of french ones) they would have done pretty good.

Remember this is the time of romanticism and nationalism, people fought for something greater, a knight would have fought for his self interest in the war since he was nobility and had prospects of riches if he won, so that's also pretty good motivation, but he draws a line when it comes to risk your life, remember the napoleonic era was when people started spouting the dulce et decorum thing, basically it's noble to die for your country.

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Kek

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Can you bring your own reinforcements when using lightning strike? Cus the AI seem to do that all the fucking time.

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>>170065478
Don't you dare be lying to me

>>170065967
I always thought lightning strike forces a 1v1.

>>170065936
>playing Total War

>>170065967
only if they are from a garrison force, which is bs because it allows the ai to use lightning strike while besieged and cut off a besieging army from its reinforcements while still getting to bring some of their own

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>>170065842

>What's the point of attacking the Wood Elves anyway

>>170066050

Nazi Elves are a thing of the past

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Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Games Workshop, which, as much as I admire, I do quibble with. Warhammer Fantasy had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Games Workshop can say that Karl Franz became emperor and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But GW doesn’t ask the question: What was Franz's tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these Chaos Warriors? By the end of the war, Archaon is gone but all of the Chosen aren’t gone – they’re in the Chaos Wastes. Did Karl Franz pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby Chosen, in their little chaos cradles?

>>170066095

>tfw dawi holocaust denier

>>170066132

Aren't you dead yet?

>>170066050
Beastman King must pay.

>>170066095
You wish. Chaos invasion triggers their pre-Bret bloodlust.

>>170066132
>Did Karl Franz pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby Chosen, in their little chaos cradles?

I mean, its warhammer, of course genocide was the solution.

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*blocks your path*

>>170066261

Something is being raised in my pants.

>Go around the north as chaos fucking up all the nord shits and awakening tribes to get Sigvald unlocked
>Empire and bretonnia razing all sorts of shit before I can get to it

Does this mean it will be literally impossible to get Sigvald now?

I have awoken 3 and I cant seem to see any that will be able to be awoken.

>>170066353
>Implying Sigvald is good

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>AI Buildings and Recruitment is still not updated

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>>170066132
>if the king was a good man, the land would prosper
>The Empire
>prospering

dude lmao

>>170066373

Why would I give a shit about what's good in a single player game? I just want to have fun and do his quests.

>>170066384
It's also ironic that he'd say that since LotR and the setting in general has several good kings ruling over shitty lands, and shitty kings ruling over well-off lands.

>>170066409
Break an alliance with one of the tribes and destroy it. Then awake it

>>170066132
>Did he maintain a standing army?

Again, yes he did

>>170052462
bless me sigmar

>>170063000
more like music for the eternal night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzMAwJ6OhI4

>>170052462
gimme something good

Should I genocide the Dawi?

>>170066678
Do you want to get rekt?

>>170066650
>Louen
I am ok with this.

>>170052462
I will not blight my soul!

>>170066802
Karl...

>>170066132
WFRP answers literally all of those questions.

>>170059487
Skarsniks neighbor who occasionally does teamups.

His most defining moment being attacking a dwarf hold, kidnapping most of the kings family to take back home as slaves and leaving his son nailed to his fathers throne, alive, but shaved and with an orcish picture of Rotguy tattooed on his head and some trauma to go with it.

Rotgut and Morglum Necksnapper were way cooler than Grimgor, never understood why such a boring character got all the limelight.

>>170066725
No, I'm the Orcs

>>170067267
Well then get fucked, urk. Every wrong will be put right.

I never realized how dumb Archaon's tabletop model would look rendered in a game with those horns

>>170062207

Dwarfs get negative confederating effects too.

>good enough relations to confederate
>doing so harms relations with other factions and public order

This will continue to make absolutely no sense to me. The cooldown before being able to confederate also makes no fucking sense either. Just artificial difficulty bullshit.

>>170067368
Well dwarfs have always priced autonomy. So has the imperial provinces I guess.

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How do you guys use the Green Knight? I'm 60 turns in on VH and I still haven't used him. I might wait for the Chaos invasion to really kick in.

>>170067482
he's actually best at the start,when magic is scarce

>>170067368
>>170067447

Doesn't negative relations make more sense given that each state is in direct competition with the others? One state being absorbed into another makes them more powerful and tips the balance of power against the rest, harming relations.

Is Bretonnia supposed to be united under King Louen?

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Will we ever gonna find out whose the old friend?!!!!????!!

Reminder that the DLC team is separate from the main game team so the expansion factions will be as shitty as the first 4 factions when compared to Bretonnia

>>170067019
I wish he had gotten Gorbad Ironclaw.

Who is the biggest slut in Total Warhammer

>AI never sallies out to attack you during a siege

>>170067921
Skarsnik.

>>170067763
End of the month

>>170054868
What do you mean? There are 3 unique buildings for each bret faction's capital. Couronne Jousting Grounds, Manaan Port and some other gay magic shit for the enchantress.

>>170067921
Hell Cannon

>>170067773

Counterpoint, the DLC team made the Warriors of Chaos.

Also they've said on numerous occasions that the enormous success of Warhammer and it's DLC has allowed them to greatly expand the scope of future content.

>shitty as the first 4

Dwarfs, Vampires were actually pretty good from the get-go. Greenskins got a lot better after Skarsnik and the Empire will be eternal trash so there's no helping that.

>>170066038
I just had the opposite experience.
>besieged by 3 doomstacks of chaos and norsca.
>have army A inside Carcasonne
>have army B right next to it as close as possible
>chaos attacks army B
>army B gets no reinforcements, neither garrison nor nearby army
ebola

Is it worth taking Gorssel from Marienburg if I don't plan to expand in that direction or should I just fortify Marienburg and deal with having no edicts?

>>170066132
>What was Franz's tax policy?
On/Off

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>>170067941
>saying this when an integral part of Louen's campaign is getting Marienburg to sally out

>>170068175
is that winnable on very hard?

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>>170068121

>>170068236
Uh, probably. There's only so much that basic swordsmen can do.
It was easy on normal battle difficulty anyway.

>>170068236
What does campaign difficulty have to do with battle difficulty? Or are you one of these madmen who plays battle difficulty on anything but normal?

What exactly does fire damage do when the target doesn't have fire resistance or weakness? Extra damage? Morale debuff like from that Bright wizard spell? Damage over time? And does it count as physical?

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>>170067763
>>170067998

Depends on what it is really. CA says every team is now on to the sequel now but that doesn't quite jive with the SteamDB information. So it's possible they have something in the works, but again no one really knows.

The reveal of Isabella was a huge unexpected curve-ball so anyone pretending to know is full of shit. But I'd say within the month we might know.

>>170068593
what if it's that old guy

a new legendary wizard for every faction, with all new skills and maybe even spells

>>170068593
so we still have two last FLC ?

>>170068524

Not the guy you're responding to but I think campaign difficulty gives them an unnatural boost to their leadership. Or it's the battle difficulty, I can't remember.

>>170068593
>Old Friend flc
>Bretonnia vs Vampire Cunts dlc
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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>>170068593

Gonna call it right now, it'll be a tie in with the sequel. Nothing huge but it'll be related some how.

>there's people in this thread who play their total wars on anything other than Legendary/Legendary difficulty
Surrounded by plebs

>>170068669

Isabella was one of them, CA confirmed this. Old Friend is the only remaining FDLC left.

>>170068921
then whats the second highlighted thing ? cause isabella is on that list

>>170068905
artificial difficulty isn't fun

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Those achievements that say for example "Conquer X cities as Vampire Counts" would I also be able to get them if I played as Von Carstein?

>>170068524
>he doesn't play on legendary

>>170069003
Babby difficulty isn't fun
Why even play if there's no challenge

>>170068905
The idea of a single unit of Swordsman almost completely routing Reiksguard Does not entice me to play on such artificial difficulties.

>>170069003
It's not even that bad. People massively exaggerate the legendary bonuses for some reason.

As Crooked Moon, should I abandon my starting settlements when storming to Eight Peaks? My provinces are too divided to protect them all efficiently

>>170069039
>not playing as Manny

>>170068593
My hopes:
- Middenheim + Averheim as new startpos for Empire, with Boris and Marius LL
- new units for Empire, including Cult of Ulric roster
- new Greenskins LL and updated roster

Anyone have the Attila roll pic? Im going through old threads but Im on the 3rd on and no sign of it. Only the warhammer roll pic.

>>170068996

Another paid DLC possibly.

>>170069158
This, Mannfred is objectively the best Lord.

>>170069128
Chaos already fights to the death on normal difficulty. The buffs and debuffs aren't the right way to increase difficulty - more chaos stacks is.

Now that my vanilla run is over, I can mod it to acceptable difficulty. Buffed orcs too.

>>170069158
The von Carsteins have much better starting bonuses and units. Also I can just get Manny via confederation later on.

>>170069197
Never mind of course its only a few pages down from when I gave up...

>>170069039
I think so. I played as unlocked Mousillon before Bretonnia update, and i'm sure that i kept getting vampire achievements.

>>170069039
They should. Crooked Moon gets all Greenskin achievements now at least.

>>170069128

Try fighting dwarves as orcs on legendary and then say that.

>>170069128
t. has never played on Legendary

Greenskins buff when? It's boring to see that fucking ginormous dorf blob in every campaign

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>>170065806

http://puu (dott) sh/utbz2/59b5ffde06.webm

>>170069362
Been there, done that.

>>170069406
t. Needs to git gud

Age of Sigmar game fucking when

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>>170069567
CA here - AoS will be the third expansion and will permanently disable the two other campaigns.

>>170052462
I'm bored

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How in the fuck do I play beastmen?

starting outmy units are so shit aside from my bonus units, and nigges camp in their settlements with full stacks of rape. I'm suppose to be the rapists!

>>170069745

Disband the second army you get, take its units first obviously, then look for vulnerable towns and destroy them, once you get minotaurs you can probably start rolling into the enemys bases
those things ruin gates and front lines.

>>170069158
>Manlet worst Cukcstein

>>170069642

genius

>>170069910
At least he isn't Konrad

>>170069745
Run around and poo on small settlements to get that growth going. Focus on getting Minotaurs and Cygors quickly.

muh Lady

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>>170069837
So just run around with Khazrak then?

>>170070009
I'm trying but the Estaliacucks and tileaniggers just camp their settlements even when I set up an ambush or raid.

>>170069745
Build a poop computer
Establish internet connection
Search for the nippon image macro forum
Look for the video game general board
Ask for advice on the dedicated Total Warhammer thread

>>170069185

>Empire vs. Greenskins

This is really the only possible option. Both are missing a lot of stuff and Empire desperately needs an alternate start and some Legendary Lords that are actually interesting to play. Who are we kidding though it's just going to be more Vampires.

>>170070084

Yep, Khaz is pretty neat. Rush minotaurs as fast as you can they change everything, a single gorebull for their auras would be ideal too. Though you can always go for two if you want both sets of auras.

>>170069642
>Bretonnia gets squatted AGAIN

>>170069362
my second campaign was legendary orcs and I won that easily, and that was before sneaky stabbas and squigs were added, its probably even easier now

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>>170070196
Why do vampires get so much focus?
>1 new unit FLC
>1 new subfaction F:C
>2 free LL's lmao
>DLC pack

>>170070168
>it's just going to be more Vampires
Good, they could use more interesting units and a different start.

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>>170070315
CA knows that the undead are always the best faction.

>>170070315

Don't forget that Old Friend will also probably something Vampire related.

>try MP for a few battles
>get completely shat on every single time

I got too fucking used to pausing the game while issuing orders, back to campaigns I go

>Accidentally move Leon onto water after winning a battle
>This wastes two turns worth of movement points

Fuck sake, now I'll have to go back and fight it again

>>170070378
Krell IS an old friend, after all.