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Timeskip edition

>>169899113


NEW General guide, READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW FOR THE LOVE OF USOPP
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jgBAK0htg7nt_P3H0Ulw9V6XeuQHjy6rZwV-K_04Oqk/edit?usp=sharing

>Quick Links
Database: optc-db.github.io
Calendar: optccalendar.com (discontinued?)

>NEW One Piece: Treasure Cruise Friend Code List
Add people from here if you're new or need more friend captains.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10KAi-2_4V2mq6E42UrVk1ktpZlfXFGK9soh_biYoNkM/

If you want to be added to the list
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdYsJghfg_Eu_IgUAcEkuALfc1-XUNAzG0a__0L4ILyat2r5g/viewform

>Drops/XP and XP/PLVL/Stam spreadsheets
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bA2WG0RFy9Nz_NF0H3z5uXwLflKkhnAYm9k8dutOT0k/htmlview
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eFGzsAvxwwwUJ77XLq62XZIUS_usqChQBkFw5rrS48I/edit#gid=0

EVENTS (GLOBAL)
-Coliseum -
>Mar 1 - 19: Vista, Paulie, Urouge, Alvida, Mr.7

-Fortnights-
>Feb 28 - Mar 14: Nico Olvia
>Feb 28 - Mar 7: Camie, Brook, Perona, Prison Mr.2
>Mar 7 - 14: Hina, Young Arlong

>Mar 14 - 21: Cobmeppy, Hannyabal
>Mar 21 - 28: Smoker, Wapol

- Raids -
>Mar 5: Blackbeard
>Mar 12: Heracles
>Mar 16: Aokiji
>Mar 19: Kizaru

EVENTS (JAPAN)
>Mar 3 - 6: Ray Final Tomes island

- Coliseum -
>March 1 - March 20: Ideo, Krieg, Killer, Urouge, Beckman
>March 2 - March 14: Moria, Kidd, Smoker

- Fortnights -
>Feb 21 - Mar 7: Sentomaru
>Feb 23 - Mar 2: Wanze, Tontatta, Ducks
>Mar 2 - 9: Kalifa, Mansherry, Krieg

>Mar 9 - 16: Zeff, Bepo, Hogback
>Mar 16 - 23: Tom, Laki, CP9

-Raids-
>Mar 4: Garp
>Mar 5: Shogun Franky
>Mar 6:Ivankov
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Bellamy will fucking suck, I can see it being only a 40-stamina Raid. No way it's worth 60stam when Magellan was only 40 too.
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BAMCO, WHERE'S MY NIGGA 3D2Y ZORO?
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Man Enel farming is really comfy... isn't it strange a year ago this raid was so scary? I could hardly beat 40 sta then!
Guess the power creep is real.. well, better get my Enel maxed while he's still useful and before he gets outclassed.
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>>170024284
>le powercreep meme
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How does the thread feel about Thatch?
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>>170024139
they made fucking Caribou one the most busted characters, they don't care about ifthe character should be good or not, it's all about that powercreep
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>>170024358
Don't remember who, but one of the new Fishman RRs has Enels ability, minus the hp cut, and the type boost for 2 types. You tell me if that was conceivable for anyone not a legend back then.
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>>170024139
He is in a CoC with 3 other 40 stamina raid
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>>170024139
bellamy shit on TS luffy magellan would lose 1v1 to bellamy
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>>170024774
Yeah, but he is a RR and Enel isn't.
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>>170024139
Nothing wrong with 40sta raids. Sure, MC, BB, or Duval aren't as broken as Doffy, Enel, or Akainu, but still usable. Will probably find a good niche or sub use.
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We acquire new nakama in Water 7 today.
http://www.livestream.com/thisfinetemperedstream
Bring your finest timber.
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>>170024663
How is Caribou busted? He just does something we already had units for, Robin and Enel. He's QCK, so there's no way he's going to replace Robin, and Enel is obviously a much better captain so he'll be better on some occasions sure, but not like he's a straight upgrade. The 15 hits thing is really REALLY neat to break combo shields though, but then again Blackbeard friend captain is a thing so it's not that big of a deal if you really want to clear it.
I mean, not saying he's bad or anything of course he's amazing, just not one of the top units from his batch that's for sure.
Plus he's fucking ugly to boot too.
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>>170025040
Yeah, and they can also be fantastic unit. Zephyr is insane and Pica is really strong too.
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>>170025026
Very well. Compare the Holy Jones Fishman RR batch to the Enis Lobby cp9 batch. Both are batches made to accompany thier general theme type.
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>you insolent little...
>Did someone say that? I'm right here
What an odd sequence of dialogue. Am I missing something or overthinking it?
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>>170024586
>wake up
>no Thatch
>can't believe he's he's fucking dead...
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>>170025562
>Fear is Kami
What did he mean by this?
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Considering how we won't have another skillup until MAYBE the first week May, more boxspace when? What's JP's max at? 1400, right?
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>>170025934
Honestly, since we've been getting skillups at a month or 2 pace consistantly, I'd say we should be expecting something later this month.
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>>170025286
? I don't see what's that suppose to achieve?
Powercreep is about making character irrelevant. The fishman batch make no one irrelevant. It just give other options.

Khalifa is still one of the best damage reducer in the game.
Jabra is a 1.75 orb booster for either Qck/Free spirit/Power house. Which is always useful.
Blueno is a 1.75 powerhouse booster, again it's good, the problem is that powerhouse is pretty bad.

Take TS Robin for instance, 2x Dex boost 16 turns CD. 3D2Y Usopp is a 1.75 boost for dex for 15 turns. This is what you can call powercreep.

It's a bit stupid to cry about overcreep just because they release strong character.
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>>170026137
>>170026137
Crying about Powercreep in general is moot. Its a natural part of any games progression. The most important thing is how its handled.
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>>170026137
Characters attack are getting larger
Specials are doing the work 2-3 older units specials
Legends of yesteryear are becoming irrelevant
Bosses are getting more health, more debuffs, and overall harder to beat.
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>>170026032
We were getting one every other event a few months back, but before our most recent one, we hadn't gotten one in 2-3 months. I think every 1.5 months at most would be fine, but there's a point where your box is just completely full at all times and it's just not fun.
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>>170026307
And yet, base WB, the first legend in the game, was a very good option to deal with Akainu.

I don't say that there is no powercreep, it happen and will keep happening, but it's just retarded to cry about powercreep for each strong character they release, it's not what was strong before is now 100% useless.
We don't have that much "exactly the same but better" unit yet. Most of the time there is variation in CD/Type/Class that makes both unit valuable and usable on different content.

I means a few thread ago, some fag was crying about how TS Brook make 3D2Y Zoro irrelevant. It's just so fucking stupid to say that.
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Updated the Bingo with the latest Sugo, if there's an error let me know.
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>>170025186
his special does 270k in pure fukin damage in addition to boosting QCK, plus he doesn't reduce your HP by 90% like enel. he also has MORE ATK than fucking enel himself, so yeah he's replacing enel 100% on every QCK team that isn't enel capt
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A happy Carrot is a cute Carrot
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>>170026137
you can compare new brook and mr6 also
fuck i want him and robin so much
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>>170025186
>plus he's ugly to boot
Why did you add this like it affects the conversation?
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>>170026754
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>>170026875
>On every QCK team that isn't Enel capt
That's the problem, there simply is just a lot of teams that want to use Enel, whether it's because the captian gets swapped and you want to have Enel in there, or because double Enel simply lets you stall without any issue. He's great, but far from being broken. A really nice addition to Boa teams I guess.

>>170027004
I only bring handsome characters into my QCK team. Having Caribou would do more bad than good.
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>>170027356
>A really nice addition to Boa teams I guess.

Her special now boost qck 1.75. Sure 2x is better but you don't really want to waste a stock if your captain already fill the booster role.
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>>170026697
>And yet, base WB, the first legend in the game, was a very good option to deal with Akainu.
probably because his special is timeless, a 30% cut will absolutely fucking always be broken, the same can't be said for the other old legends like rayleigh, boa, sabo, lucci or LL
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>>170027468
*waste a slot
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>>170026754
Koza is far from shit. It's better to put him together with Ace and Shanks and call the group Misc or Other or something like that.
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>>170027530
Rayleigh and LL aren't bad because other characters got better. They're bad because new mechanics directly countered their abilities.

Learn to understand the difference.
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>>170026137
>The fishman batch make no one irrelevant

This is just fucking false
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>>170026287
You hear more about it lately because honestly up until recently OPTC had been very good about it. There was power creep, as there is in any game like this, but it wasn't so heavy.

Akainu is where stuff really starting getting out of hand, and all of the latest batches have been full of characters that are pretty fantastic across the board, and many just take something a previous unit did and either do that thing better, do that thing + another thing do that thing with a much lower CD/better stats, or a combination of all 3.
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>>170027530
Sabo is still the only 2x Free spirit booster, and LL is still a strong captain.
Rayleigh currently have a 100% clear rate on global.
Lucci and Boa are shit though.
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>>170027890
>RR vs Farmable
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>>170027851
If you think the only thing that makes Rayleigh bad are shields then I don't know what to tell you. He's outdated in every facet.
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>>170028080
>What are chain locks
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>>170024004
Baited
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>>170028176
>>170027851

Erf, I guess this means that TS Luffy is pure garbage then.
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>>170027928
Please show me Rayleigh clearing Akainu.

>>170028080
Whatever I just meant mechanics. He's shit because his damage is bad, his special is bad, and his stats are bad. Shields/chain locks are just icing on the cake.
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>>170028310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDCSWDKkpNo

>b-b-but mixed team doesn't count
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And this one's mine!
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Bamco think they slick
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>>170028439
Damn, lookin' good there anon
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>>170028718
heracles is unironically one of my favorite One Piece characters.
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>>170028427
Nah, that totally counts. It doesn't really change my opinion that everything about him is extremely outdated though.
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>>170028897
Yeah, I agree. He can clear everything on global but this is not gonna last long.
Special is garbage and CA need to be a bit more strong.
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Is it worth it to gem for 60 stam raids that you can clear comfortably before you have 120 max stamina? People say things like max Doffy/Enel/Kuma (is he 60 stam?) are super important, but getting 1 run per gem feels really shitty.
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>>170028897
Outdated does not mean bad, though. Arlong is outdated as fuck, but he's still a good unit. Hell, even characters like Heracles are outdated, but Heracles is a great unit. Why is that concept so hard for you to understand? His SA needs a complete overhaul, to that I will agree. His CA just needs something that works in tandem with his SA.
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>>170029063
I would say it depend if you're F2P or not.
F2P, no, you would waste too much gem (with japan rate, maybe).
P2P, yes, but only for Doffy, he is just really strong and gemming for it is a lot of xp.
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>>170029063
No
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So a redditfag found out something interesting about Shiryu's special

>As a lot of you know, he has a 25% chance of killing each enemy on the board and he his special can be reseted if you don't get the desired result by closing the app and attacking one turn and trying his special again. But did you know there are 2 more ways to manipulate the Shiryu RNG without attacking another turn?

>The first one is if you have a double Shiryu team and you use the left shiryu special and then the right one. If you don't get the desired result, reset the app and then change the order by using the right Shiryu and then the left.

>The second method is if you have a single shiryu friend captain or shiryu sub. If you don't get the right result, reset the app and use another character special that would kill any other enemy on the board, such as fodder or a low health enemy. If you kill an enemy, it'll change the outcome of the RNG.
Fuck this character just keeps getting more and more broken
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>tfw not yung or hung
>or a pirate
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>>170029264
>Arlong is still a good unit
>Heracles is outdated, in a meta of rainbow class teams
Both of the things you said are absolutely and completely wrong.
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>>170029063
I would say worth for Doffy as long as your getting 3 for every 2 gems
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>>170029420
This is absolutely not okay. How did they think this was even a remotely good idea. So fucking glad everyone revives out the fucking ass because FUCK this character.
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>>170029264
>Arlong is a good unit
He's not though.
>Heracles is oudated
He's not though. His special is great and very useful. You realize I'm not just saying "It's old so it must be bad!". Some old things are still really good. But how can you look at his special and say it's good? His stats aren't good either, and his captain ability gets screwed over by so many things while putting out mediocre damage.
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>>170029420
so much resetting tho, he is amazing for things you only clear once like pre-boss colos or forests but I'd never wanna farm anything with him
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>>170029442
>Literally 1000 attack on a RAID boss
>Is barely used in any teams anymore.
Okay
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>>170029645
Double Shiryu is probably the most reliable choice for Young WB farming
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>>170029420
Can they even change things like this? They aren't allowed to make Gacha units worse, are they? Some kind of law in Japan, I remember it being a thing in P&D.
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>>170029607
>revive

I still have the second Shiryu special
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>>170029779
you gunna run a raid with double shiryu 25 times for Whitebeard to show up and leave it up to Shiryu RNG?
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>>170029820
>Can they even change things like this?

Nothing was changed. This is how Shiryu's special worked since his release, but no one found out about this part.
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>>170030113
I meant can they change it if they deem it broken/too good you retard.
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>>170030230
>Bamco
>nerfing ANYTHING

holy fuck did you just start playing today?
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>>170030309
I'm asking if they COULD. I know they don't, but if some really broken shit was found out about a legend, are they legally allowed to nerf it? I'm pretty sure they aren't because of the gacha laws in Japan.
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1456x4=5824
5825x35=203840
203840x4=815316

Math for damage from 1 6*Lucci special with 2 Fossa captains.
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>>170030089
>you have 45% chance to kill YWB per stage, TWICE
>4 turns before he kills you

yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eiTMyVxD28
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>>170030409
>I don't know how Japanese Gacha laws work
Oh no it's retarded
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Where can I get the sprites for OPTC? Want to make some fresh new OC
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>>170030526
yeah I know what shiryu does but thats not what I would call a reliable way of farming
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>>170030309
>Forgetting how Bamco nerfed Halloween Robin on Global just to spite us filthy foreigners
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>>170027782
This. As a matter of fact he is better than those two and he is only outclassed by 3D2Y Zoro.

Also Supernova is an incorrect term, Worst Generation is the the appropriate terms.
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>>170030650
>Japanese Gacha laws
Have a link to this? It would be an interesting read.
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>>170030650
Yeah, I guess it's pretty dumb of him not knowing the intricacies of japanese legislation regarding gambling on mobile devices.
Get off your fucking high horse will you.
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>>170030768
the Blindness mechanic was months away on Global when she was released

she wasn't nerfed post-release
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>>170030909
Completely wrong though. Blindness was already a thing when she was released, they just changed her for no reason at all.
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>>170029607
Nah he's shit.

25 turns and a bunch of resetting makes farming with him completely and utterly infeasible. He's only good for clearing shit once that you'd otherwise be unable to do, and that only helps in forests and maybe getting one copy of Enel early so you have a good captain for progressing through the story.

He's not the broken mess everyone claims he is.
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>>170030521
5824x1.5=8736
8736x35=305760
305760x4=1223040

ftfy with Fossa's special too. Thats still without type weakness factored I think you are onto something here anon.
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>>170030909
>Blindness wasn't a thing
>Rapist lion blinds you
ERR
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>>170031134
thank god someone else understands this, I've had Shiryu since he released on Japan and he's great for cheesing shit but it takes forever and farming a colo or raid for 15 skillups would be awful
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>>170030409
They can nerf, but that would piss off whales so you usually only ever see units buffed. Typically the response to OP stuff in games like this is too introduce content that makes it hard as fuck for the broken shit. Cygames recently did this in GBF. They don't want to nerf a limited character, and they already nerfed the mechanic that makes said character super busted. So they introduced elemental resistances to high level content that makes it a pain in the ass for newer players, and older players who aren't equipped well enough.
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>>170031134
Wagecuck detected.
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>>170031134
I wouldn't say farming is infeasible. It takes a while for sure, but if you have the time and no comfy teams then it's an option. Just a tedious one.
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>>170031134
>WAAAAH I HAVE TO TAKE LIKE A WHOLE EXTRA MINUTE TO RESET THE GAME ONCE OR TWICE

Oh look, ADHD
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>>170030768
But she wasn't patched nerfed.
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>>170031348
this is right, and lately this new chaos colos have been pushing the bill, I doubt there are legendless teams, let alone F2P teams, that can consistently clear them
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>>170031167
It's just x2 so 2446080
So yes Lucci special could theoretically one shot one of the Doffys from Doffy raid
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>>170031348
I can't find anything on it at the moment (I'll look more thoroughly later), but I believe they could be in legal trouble if they directly nerf Gacha units. Since people spent money for a chance to get that unit in that state.
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>>170031580
It's more that I actually value my time.

I bet you're one of those faggots who actually bothered to zombie the raids he couldn't do, spending three hours to get one copy of Garp rather than just waiting until next time.
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>>170031972
If you value your time why do you spend hundreds of hours playing a f2p mobile animu game made for cow herding children in Bangladesh?

also where do you think you are?
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>>170031972
>values his time
>spends it playing a mobile game from another country based on a cartoon based on a comic book

Just because you don't feel like taking the extra time doesn't make him shit, anon.
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>>170032108
>>170032230
Having fun is not a waste of my time.

Browsing 4chan is fun. Theory crafting efficient teams and autistically grinding with them is fun.

Stalling for 25 turns on a 5 round colo and then spending potentially several minutes per run resetting is not fun, and is thus a waste of my time.
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>>170032530
Fun is subjective.
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>>170030526
>you have 45% chance to kill YWB per stage, TWICE
>twice
but he's only 25%
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>>170033414
Use right Shiryu
Use left Shiryu
Reset
Use left Shiryu
Use right Shiryu
Attack
Repeat
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>>170023659
loli ship when
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>>170033691
Forgot a reset before attack but you get the idea
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>>170033848
2 (3?) of those are literally just children.
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>>170030521
>>170031167
that's now how it works tards
he'll do 400k to a dex enemy and that's it
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>>170033954
Okay?
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>>170033954
You should probably learn the difference between lolita and pedophelia
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Why was Hody such a fucking jobber? Fishman Island was a whole arc where there was no stakes and no danger for 9/10 of it because the Straw Hats could shit on every obstacles easy. Only arc since Skypeia that has a time where Robin shits all over an opponent
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>>170034320
And the difference between a lol icon and Lolita
>>170033954
Try 5
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>>170034461
fishmen were a mistake - oda
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>>170034461
For the millionth time, Fishman Island was an exposition arc. It showcased how the world of one Piece had changed within the two years of the straw hats training. It also served as a grounds of showing off the new straw hats and their new abilities.
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>>170034490
>>170033954
Name 1 (1) that is not a child
>>170034461
Sauce
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>>170031597
Man the mental gymnastics you're doing just to push your agenda is impressive. Are you a liberal by chance? The fact is units were changed to hurt global which is considered a nerf but you're putting in extreme rules to try and delude yourself of those facts.
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>>170034591
Then Oda should've spent less time building up the opposition, outside of Doflamingo arguably that's the same shit that happened in Dressrosa
Doesn't matter what purpose it served because it was done terribly
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>>170034591
Did the strawhats really need another victory lap
>>170034689
It's an artist on Twitter I can't remember her name. If I find her I'll link you
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>>170034776
>I wonder if they're gonna change him
>naw, they wouldn't patch something already in game. H Robin, your example, was patched before getting put in global and doesn't count
>m-m-menral gymnastics!
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>>170034052
How does it work then whats your math behind that number?
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>>170034917
>Victory Lap
The strawhats got their shit pushed in right before it. Literally they would have been killed/separated forever if Kuma wasn't secretly a double Agent of the Revolution Army and purposely sent each strawhat to the respective islands that would have made them stronger.
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>>170034689
https://twitter.com/One__Bab
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Newshitter anon here, wanted some input on what my next few evolves should be, and farming advice.

I have the materials saved to evo Cabbage, I just haven't done so yet because of cost reasons. I'm thinking TS Chopper and Law (maybe Diamante too?) have priority now. Not sure if I should super evo Zoro before or after Cabbage.

Perona makes me want to jump off a fucking cliff - I've gone through nearly 30 dupes, and I still haven't gotten a skill level up or an auto-heal socket. QCK Brook seems like he has an interesting ability, and I was curious if he was worth farming.

Also, my 30 stamina Perona runs are super slow, probably because I'm terrible at teambuilding - can I get a suggestion on what the best possible team I could run for her is?

Finally, is it worth trying to get a drop of any of the current colo characters on the lowest (maybe medium, but doubtful) difficulty?
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>>170035071
No because Hody had already jobbed to Zoro much earlier. Hody was only even a threat cause muh energy steroid.
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>>170035191
Cheers
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>>170035194
>feeding outside skillup
why
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>>170034848
I agree. I think Oda was just padding the manga because hes running out of ideas to stretch the store. As long as doesn't go full Bleach route I'm happy.
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>>170035194
>Dupe Fuji

Sell that to the rayleigh shop. The potential skillup and socket is not worth at all.
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>gem to do a couple runs
>accidently fall asleep for 8 hours
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>>170034848
Its pretty clear he likes fucking with peoples expectations. Like just recently the shit with Bobbins. Gave him a cool one liner, and then he gets whacked immediately the next chapter.
>>170035457
I wouldn't call fishman island padding. A good chunk of stuff that happened there is relevant to the story.
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>>170035867
Fuck that keep him unevolved and use him on a dumb Kyros or Legend Buggy team
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>>170035194
Don't evolve Cabbage for a while if you have cost issues.Evolve QCK Sanji. Law and 5+ Zoro fill the same role so pick one of those to focus on for green exp.

Brook isn't worth farming. STOP feeding things outside of skillup nuless they're only for sockets. It's fucking retarded.

Probably worth getting QCK Alvida but I doubt you'll use any of the other non-chaos colo characters.

I don't know what your cost is so I can't make a team for you. Just lead with 5+ Luffy, bring TS Sanji and Usopp if you can. Alvida if you want a safety net/more STR damage.
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ES Roid Rage Hody is cool looking but he was wasted because Luffy just shits all over the whole time
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>>170035194
>2 fuji's
What kind of spicy meme are you cookin'?
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>>170035959
Yeah that percent cut on Buggy team seems nice
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It's a shame all the fishman pirates job because I really like their character designs
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>>170035361
I hate myself and have no box space.

>>170035867
I was thinking about doing that, but wasn't sure.

>>170036023
Got it, thanks for the help anon. I'll evolve the QCK Sanji - I wasn't sure if I'd use him since I have TS, but I'm sure a usage for him will pop up. 5+ Zoro and Law do the same thing? Might as well just super evo Zoro in a few levels, then.

Do you guys really just hold dupes for months at a time? Maybe I should invest in more box space, in that case.

Shit, that's my bad - I only have 134 cost so far. I need about 20 or so more before I feel safe evolving Cabbage, I think. Aye, alright. I guess I've just been doing the best with what I have, then - I've been doing 5+ luffy, TS Sanji, Alvida, Usopp, and Diamante (purely because he's STR). The despair for the first 3 turns of Perona really drags things out.

I'll try to get a copy of QCK Alvida - I wanted her, honestly. I should probably stick to Exhibition, huh?

>>170036291
Very sad memes. I was hyped to see a legend from a free pull during the 2nd anni, and it hurts that I got a dupe Fuji. I wanted Inthawk.

I'll also never be able to use Fuji, so that's fun.
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>>170035941
Ok I'm trying to become a writer myself and I don't want this to degrade into a shit-flinging contest so take this for the pompous rambling that it comes off as BUT Messing with people's expectations =/= Purposely giving them dross when they expected quality
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>>170035457
I don't think he's running out of ideas. Every new arc brings some insanely imaginative thing. An island trapped in air bubbles below a giant mangrove tree. Thats pretty imaginative whatever else happens in Fishman island.
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>>170036606
I don't see why it would devolve into shit flinging. You're allowed to have your opinion. For the record I'm not the biggest fan of Fishman Island. Although I don't find it to be the worst thing ever like some people on 4chan. I agree that it could have been executed better, but its behind us now and the story has only been increasing in quality.
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>>170036821
>An island trapped in air bubbles below a giant mangrove tree
fishman island is below marineford not sabaody Spee D. Reader
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>>170036573
QCK Sanji is useful for his fixed damage. Good for killing enemies with high defense. 5+ Zoro and Law have different specials but the same captain ability (2.5x attack for Dex units).

Unless you're very close to maxing something, it's never worth it to feed outside of skill up. The chance is too low, it's just a waste. Yes, invest in box space and hold the things you need. A lot of people have maxed out their box space (1100) and it's still not enough room when we haven't had a skill up event in a while.

For the record, I'd save your Fuji until something comes along that you actually want to spend Ray points on (likely the Rocket Man ship). No point in selling him off right now when you won't (shouldn't) buy anything.
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>>170031134
You forgot Colos exist. Having mechanics like that make it easier to deal with bullshit like revives.
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>>170036573
>no box space
If you have gems, fuck sugo and pump tons into new box space RIGHT NOW. If you don't have gems, then we get one every day for free in the mail. At least use the daily gems as you get them to increase box space ASAP
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>>170036882
>but its behind us now and the story has only been increasing in quality.
Now that I can 100% agree with
And I didn't mean to be presumptuous, but I've seen and spoken to people who really enjoy One Piece but as soon as someone starts pointing out faults it's like someone summoned the Oda defense brigade and they've been ordered to murder dissenters
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>>170036882
>but its behind us now and the story has only been increasing in quality.
Wholecake Island, sure. Dressrosa was a mess as much as Fishman Island was.

Doesn't matter because it peaked with Arlong Park.
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>>170036989
OH well then
>Built up the opposition too much
It was meant to be a crushing defeat that ended the great pirate age and proved the supremacy of marines of pirates in the current meta. Then BB came jobbed, destroyed the base, and ran and hid from Shanks.
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>>170037331
>Arlong Park
>peak
I know that's the arc that people recommend newcomers to at least get to, since that's when the story really starts getting good, but there's no way that's the peak. Everything after is where we really get the fantastic worldbuilding and characters and shit. At least say W7 is the peak like everyone else even though I disagree
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>>170037053
Oh, that makes sense. So I take it that QCK Sanji is good for elder turtles, in that case.

Thanks anon, I'll super evo Zoro and save Law for another time, when I have spare exp.

Got it. I probably can't even afford the Rocketman when it rolls around, but it's definitely a good use.

>>170037170
Damn, alright. I was going to hoard gems for a Caesar rate up to try and make my useless Fuji usable in the future, but this does seem like a better option.
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>>170037331

Thriller Bark is the peak. Oda at his funniest, and his art at its best.
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>>170037497
Everyone says it peaked in Alabasta. People are still following the series even now just because of how good Alabasta was.
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>>170037497
Arlong Park, Alabasta, and Impel Down are like the 3 best. Whole cake Island has really been up there for me as well.
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>>170035893
How the fuck does one "accidentally fall asleep"?
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>>170037696

You've never nodded off from exhaustion before?
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>>170037641
Because the series is finally centered on an epic protagonist
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>>170037632
>>170037641
Yeah, Alabasta is one of my favorites too, but the general fan favorite is always Water 7/Enies Lobby whenever it's brought up. In terms of art, story, characters, everything.
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Anyone want OPPW3? I just got an extra copy from the monthly humble bundle.

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replace the x with -
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>>170036821
He stole the idea from a folktale from the Caribbean islands.
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>>170037985
Consider this. The Strawhat crew is voluntarily separate now. There is even a chance the next arc won't have Luffy in it at all.
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>>170037985
Water 7 has one of my favorite One Piece moments, but it's far from my favorite arc.
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>>170038081

Well no shit, the next arc is a mini-arc about the Reverie.
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HOLY SHIT ELITE BELLI CAVE
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Welp, fucked up a run today, forgot to pop my Z. Guess I can't go a single fortnight farming aession without 1 mistake.
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That event
>Key
>Turtle
>Golden Cave
>Cola in snails

Seems global is back with the old habits.
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>>170038193
>Anime filler
I'm talking about the next canon arc. The crew is split 3 ways.
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>>170038048
I'll take it if no one else has claimed it, cheers
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>>170038603
Theres no defending this Im going back to Japan
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>>170038741

Are you dumb son? His current editor has gone on record that after Whole Cake is the actual Reverie, then Wano.
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>>170038081
>There is even a chance the next arc won't have Luffy in it at all.

I hope this happen and not this
>Luffy joins Zoro & co
>Fuck up situation
>Flashback to know what happened.
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>>170038603
Holy fuck, like why do they do this? What is the point? All it does is frustrate and annoy the players they have.
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>>170038784
Looks like someone beat me to it. Ah well
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>>170038603
>>170038796
>>170038940
???? What the fuck were you expecting? No, like in all honesty, what were you expecting at this time of year?
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>>170038796
>you know global reach high level of garbageness when JewJulie doesn't even try to defend it

Feels good that I've started an alt acc on japan a few weeks ago.
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>>170037331
Man Dressrossa is a great arc when it isn't being ready weekly. That was also when Oda really started being forced to take breaks so the pacing got even more fucked. Personally I can't wait to see more of the guys from the fleet like Barto, Cavendish, and Don Sai. Hopefully we get to see them get more fleshed out before the obligatory big war goes down.
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>>170039145
What do you mean at this time of year? It doesn't have to be Christmas to have an event that is not completely fucking worthless you autist.
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>>170037845
Sanji is a worthless piece of shit that should die.
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>>170038603
Are most global events like this? Even as a new player, this seems pretty worthless.
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>>170039168

Having recently read Dressrosa in volume form, it's not much better weekly. It is still extremely clear to see the facing get completely fucked after the initial confrontation with Doffy and the bird cage starts.
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>wake up
>no Sea Stallions
>no raids coming soon I need to run which would also drop them
True suffering
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Fishman Island was an arc that clearly focused less on the enemy at the time. The analogies and messages Oda was trying to send about fishman relations is clear, and Hody took a back seat to all of it.
I would say that Van der Decken and Caribou had just as big a role in all of it too. In addition to having as many split antagonists as there were, there was also obvious signs like Hody getting BTFO by Zoro underwater that clearly showed how much things had changed. You all have to remember that in a way this arc was a pretty big deal for the manga's run, not only showcasing their new strength but weaving plot lines together. Nami finally got the truth behind why her village was attacked by Arlong, we learned about Shirahoshi and the Sea Kings, and the whole fishman civil rights sub plot was introduced. Oda clearly wanted Hody to look like an extremist in the whole thing. Comparing him to Black Panthers or BLM wouldn't be difficult, and it's clear he also never wants to do anything with them again after aging his entire crew beyond recognition.

I would give Hody a legend only on the merit that he showed the reader that in no way did Luffy return invincible from his training.
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>>170039374
Unfortunately... Yes
During the last...2 months maybe? we've got great event because of the anniversary, but before that, it looked like this yes.
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What teams are you guys using to farm colo vista? Enel is slow.
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>>170039264
Why does literally every fucking event have to be some super amazing thing?

You fucking autists are never satisfied. I am thoroughly convinced it's just the same 1 or 2 shit posters.
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>>170038603
>>170038796
>>170038940
>get fantastic sugo w/ TS Luffy
>rayliegh shop
>Akainu raid
>shitton of returning fortnights at once
>5*+s
>3d2y
it hasn't even bee 2 weeks yet and y'all are already going on about nothing. Don't you think Japan has slow events to?
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>>170039556
It doesn't have to be AMAZING but this event is effectively NOTHING. Completely fucking useless in every regard to me.
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>>170039552
https://youtu.be/5dr3D83PyMA?t=5m52s
So good to have SW Ace
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>>170039712
It's literally the "We need an excuse to give a daily gem event" that has been a part of the game since fucking RELEASE.
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>>170039862
When was the last time JP got an event like this?
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>>170039414
Skypeia was more of a drag than Dressrosa ever was. You forget how brief and unsatisfying the fight between Luffy and Enel was, since most of the fight is just him trying to catch up to him. At least WCI hasn't been dragging it's feet when there were many easy opportunities to do so.
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>>170039712
I'm sure you would be bitching less if we just had Raid Sabo or better Colos, but I doubt it.
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>>170039593
>Don't you think Japan has slow events to?
They actually don't anymore
Now let me refute all of your points

>>170039593
>Sugos actually being events
>Ray shop, an update
>Raid being content for the fortnight
>Fortnight from the LAST event
>5+ from the update
>Story isles ever being events

This is actually the worst event Globals have, ever
>Gold Cave
>Turtles
>Keys
>Snails from Coke

thats it. No fun isles, no fun things to look forward
2 weeks of shit
Global had the ball then dropped it right into the ground
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>>170040440
Stop.
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>>170040440
I wish Bandai would.
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I wouldn't mind those slow events if they gave us something worthwhile like double exp in returning fortnights.
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>>170040882
You're such a liar, because it would be double exp on a "shitty" fortnight and no one will run it. Then you'd complain how it's not Halloween hats on double exp and half stamina
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>>170040440
On the topic of sugos, didn't JP actually have a better 2nd anni sugo than global? Both rate-wise and boosted units?
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>>170040440
globalcucks will deny all of this truth, but it will only sting more that way
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>>170038603
y'know... is good to breath for a while sometimes and just comfy farming for Doffy books

not even mad
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>>170040836
I do too
As much as I have faith in Global, I'm glad its a game I don't need to play in its downturns and just enjoy the upturns

>>170041145
Yes JP did

>>170041778
Noones denying it
This event 100% sucks.
Go JP for these two weeks
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>>170040440
>Now let me refute all of your points
Did you forget to type your rebuttal to these? You just repasted it.
>This is actually the worst event Globals have, ever
hardly. Just how long have you been playing for exactly? There have been fortnights where would get Gold Cave and Turtles with no snails or keys.
This event sucks, yes, but we just had a massive, enormous update and event week. Do you expect that every week? I understand your complaints, but they seem to be made on a basis of little to no grasp of perspective for the game we have. Global gets things in bursts. When it rains, it pours. If it bothers you that much, just go to Japan dude.
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>>170042434
>There have been fortnights where would get Gold Cave and Turtles with no snails or keys.

Are you actually being serious right now. Is Snails and Keys actually a distinction from a shit tier event to a better one ? Because all in all its still completely ass.

>If it bothers you that much
This is such a shit tier argument. We can complain about a game we invest our time and energy into. All we ask is for equality between versions.

> Global gets things in bursts. When it rains, it pours.
When Japan rains, it floods. When Global pours, its enough to last two weeks and its kind of a pissy thing to realize those two weeks are over and its back to the bottom tier event list.

It bothers me that Global had a good, really good start to the new version, but completely fucked it up

And here, I'll repeat it
Sugos aren't events
Updates aren't events
Fortnight additions aren't enough to carry past two weeks
5+'s are still updates
Story isles are events but again, not enough to carry past two weeks
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>>170042915
Fuck off to JP then, no one gives a shit.
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>>170042915
So what you're saying is the update features do not count as events?
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>>170043008
>Fuck off to JP then, we're all too happy shoveling shit into our mouths stop complaining about it
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>>170043008
If you play global and you don't give a shit I feel sorry for you. Have fun doing absolutely fucking nothing of interest for the next two weeks.
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>>170043074
No, they don't, they count as updates. Events are things we wait every 2 weeks for. Updates are separate. And yes, while its nice we got 6.0 and stuff, is it so wrong not to have a boring event ? I'm not even asking for Japan level events were its CoC every month and isles out of the wazoo, just, something that isn't shitty Gold cave and keys.
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Pls put up cavendish capts. Need some for vista. Thanks
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>>170043108
JP players are like Europeans, all they talk about how great JP is, but literally can't stop bringing up Global.

Fuck off.
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>>170043108
>>170043156
This

I "fucked off" to Japan so I spend less time here whining about events.
Its also nice knowing when to pull for what I need as well.

Btw does anyone know what the last chopperman mission is? Its the gem one.
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>>170043534
Not an argument
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>>170043563
Fuck that, I can play both at the same time
But its so fucking annoying to deal with shit tier events knowing JP actually has something. This isn't even an amazing event for JP, at least if you don't count Bellamy ( the obligatory raid ) and Cavendish ( thats new but out of many peoples league I'd imagine )
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>>170043695
>Fuck that, I can play both at the same time
Why. No, seriously. Why. You already play the superior version. Why do you feel the need to shitpost constantly about the inferior one?

Im genuinely curious.
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>>170043803
>Shitposts is complaining

There's a difference
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>>170043803
>You already play the superior version.

The only reason I actually haven't completely gone to play JP is my gem reseller doesn't work for JP so I get like 5x the gems over on global and can deal with the lows since I don't need to be obligatorily FTP like in Japan

Also the language barrier
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>>170043315
I really think you're being too literal on this. Really, an event is just a period of time when something is occurring, and while Ray shop and +evos are permanent, their was no less fun and eventful than the "official events" that occur.
Personally, I'm glad we don't have much going on. With Doffy books, SW Usopp books, and Vista out I really can't afford any more distractions from farming them as much as I can. I don't need Le Crap or anything else to eat my stamina, or a 1/2 stamina on fortnights I'm not running. Say what you will, but they chose a perfect time for nothing to occur.
And honestly, I don't want so many timely events thrusted down my throat every day. I have a life I go to school, and some days I come home exhausted. I go out with friends and can't play thins game during. It's nice to have a time when I'm not going to miss anything. But that's all anecdotal.
I'm agreeing with >>170043534, if you truly are solid in your mentality that Japan is so superior, what are you doing complaining about Global? Are you attempting to convert more people to Japan and have more friends to play with? Or are you just venting because you WISH global met your expectations, only to be disappointed at every turn like a rich kid not getting every toy they want? Or just an attentionwhore with your Perona shitposts and I'm just feeding the bait more than needed? Either way, you don't seem to be barking up the right tree. If I agreed with you, I'd be playing JPN right now, but I'm not. so if you're just going to sit there and say >>170043156, than you'd do better and save us all the trouble but not.
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>>170044084
I'll buy you gems in japan if you rate my dick.

my fetish is showing my dick to jews
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>>170043890
I see you continue to avoid the question.

Carry on with your shitposting.
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>>170044084
Speaking of which, the new guy lowered the amount of gems you get for $50.

Unfortunate.
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>>170044159
>they chose a perfect time for nothing to occur.

I respectfully disagree on this point. And for your reasons, they're way too subjective, and anedoctal like you said. Any time you can have [Insert Preferred Legend/RR's] books dropping from the fortnight, but that's more of the extraneous stuff.
Either way, I'm not "convincing" anyone to go play Japan. I'm just stating my disappointment with the new event. I suppose its venting yes. I wasn't disappointed that we didn't get Ace isle and the skill up increase, only cause we got so many good updates on the other hand

But those good feelings don't last long. And fortnight grinding is nice, but its not the events that make OPTC fun and nice to look forward to opening up in the day. It just makes it the grind that you log in, use up your stam and gem to get the books you need then rinse and repeat.

Its a dissapointing event all it is, at least to me and I'm sure others based off some other posts in the thread
Its not enough to make me quit Global, not at all. But you don't need to be a "spoiled" brat to notice that there isn't much content to look forward to do that isn't obligatorily given like fortnights.

>>170044317
Yeah I just saw, the other guy must've talked to him and made the new guy realize he didn't work as hard to outsell him
Still, 50$ for 190 gems beats anything you can get in the store.
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>Be JP player.
>Play obviously superior version of the game.
>Cant help but feel like something is missing in my life.
>Notice all these global peasants in my thread.
>Realize that it's my eternal duty to ceaselessly brag about JP and make sure globalkeks realize their version is inferior.
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>>170044861
Oh shut up
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>Log onto my JP account.
>Forgot that we got a 50 gem mail package as part of our 2 week event.
Damn dude, I forgot how amazing JP is.
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>>170044852
I won't disagree, just kicking myself for not grabbing the 270 gem deal earlier. Not much difference between the two sellers, now.
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>>170045131
Well, I can vouch for older guy personally
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>Yfw you didn't fall for the global meme
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>>170045297
Aye, that sways me more towards him. I was reading his thread though, and from the comments, it seems like he's been MIA for a bit,.
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>>170045414
He is, he goes MIA for like 3-5 days at a time
Just skype him and he'll respond when he can
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>tfw started jp like 2 sugo ago
>Already 3 legends
>Neptune last sugo

20k xp/30 stamina is pretty nice.
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Guys the Japanese shitposters are just /v/ cross boarders. Check this guys file name in the archive>>170045396

Typically /v/irgins stuff he posts constantly on /v/
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>>170045396
>>170045496
>mfw you get 40 k exp for 30 stamina
Remind me again why global exists.
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Do I add him guys
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>>170045641
>Denying Mabel

Be nice.
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>>170045641
do it faggot
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>>170045841
she turns me on

i feel dirty and horny
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>>170045641
No. As well as being an annoying as fuck shitposter he's a cheater.
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>>170045478
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the help.
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>>170046012
Happy to !
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>>170045913
What kind of reason is that for not accepting their friend request though their cheating would literally only help you. A little bit ago a level 70 added me with a max socketed max cooldown Enel 100 RCV yeah he probably cheated but he didn't have to play 100 plus hours to get that dumb Enel that helped me a lot
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I regret not starting an alt account on JP during their anniversary sugo.
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>>170046596
Ignore him. He's autistic.
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>>170046794
I just don't understand this place and leddits habit of trying to witch hunt possible cheaters. Only thing that bothers me about cheaters is leaving up shitty captains like Baka-Rat other than that who cares.
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>Need one more skill up for Doffy
>the book well has run dry
I'll never be able to start on 5* legend Doffy at this rate
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>Had to use Shiryu to beat Rayleigh on 3D2Y island
I'm not proud of myself, but you do what you gotta do
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>>170046794
>gets autistic when someone cheats
>calls others autistic
it must be tough being you
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>>170047297
>10 days left on Olivia
Yeah I don't think you really need to worry, anon.
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That's done
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>>170047105
>leaving up shitty captains like Baka-Rat
>not knowing what real non cheaters can do with a good Bac
If they were cheating, there would be no need to level them anyway
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>>170047639
You have to be the same guy. Who are you?
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>>170047105
Because cheating is a shitty thing to do? Doesn't need to be anymore to it than that. Yeah their captains could be useful to you, but there are no shortage of good captains from people who made them legit. Also they ruin the fun of rankings. Personally I don't mind it since there is no real PvP atm, but I do understand why they would be ostracized.
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>>170047735
I'm just some loser, Sleeping Forest on the list
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>>170047105
dont you get bonuses in being the top of your ranking list?
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>>170047105
You don't understand why people that spend time and effort on their accounts don't like cheaters?
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>>170047846
>Also they ruin the fun of rankings.
Rankings mean fuck all unless you want to brag about having first place. You just clear it for the first prize and that's it.
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>>170047974
No the bonuses is just for clearing the 3 stars requirements. Ranking is just an epeen contest as far as I can tell
>>170048023
Not really I really don't, like I spent a lot of time and effort on my account but it's not like that means anything at all
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>>170048103
I'm sure there are people who get enjoyment out of competing for first place.
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>>170048323
Not to be rude or mean, but that's fucking lame
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>>170048323
Then they need to take a long hard look at their
lives if they invest so much into a mobile GAME.
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>>170048797
That may be true, but it doesn't make cheating and ruining those peoples fun alright.
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>>170045641
why are you asking this you're just as cancer as him
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>>170048797
Why is wanting to get first place investing too much into this game?
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>>170049415
It doesn't matter even if it's entertaining to you it doesn't matter. Most people don't even know the people on their friends list so it's not about bragging rights I'd halfway understand that
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>>170049632
I thought being entertained was the only thing that did matter.
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>accidentally revived on Paulie
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I only died because I used my specials incorrectly during Iceburg and tried to lock orbs even though he shuffles every turn.
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>>170049714
It truth nothing matters
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>>170049796
I've accidentily gemmed a few times. So infuriating. It's fucking stupid that there's an extra confirmation NOT to spend a gem, but one tap on that "Yes" button and you're fucked.
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since you are usually bottled necked by sockets rather than specials, do you guys just yolofeed your COLO copies and keep your manuals in case?
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>>170049796
>Lock orbs so they can't be changed
>He changes them
That seems dumb.
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>>170050242
Yeah, I actually do think this is a dumb mechanic since technically your own attacks are considered an orb shuffle, but I knew about it and just forgot.

If I had fully committed all my specials, I would have had more health. If I held them back, I would have had more burst. Instead, I had somewhere inbetween and could only take 1 hit from paulie with no orb boost, random orbs, and only one 20% health cut.
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>>170030309
My ushio to tora nigga, we meet again.
Good taste still
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>>170030691
Someone help this man.
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>>170030691
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2876gCiqJjGQXhfZlRVd2JJUmM&usp=sharing

Can we put this in OP pls
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>>170051212
If it's put anywhere, it should be part of a links page in the guide or something. That's our equivalent of a pastebin.

We don't want to start cluttering the OP. I'm already thinking we should remove calendar.
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+5 Luffy makes colos so easy
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>>170052359
Show me your 5+ Luffy team for Vista.
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>>170044084
Would it be possible to get this guy to just buy you an itunes or google play card for cheap?
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Where is my raid Pica on global?
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>>170054078
After Nightmare Luffy
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>>170054146
So, never?
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>>170054187
basically
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>>170054336
I really don't understand though, why has global skipped so many raids?

Is Bamco just that incompetent?
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>>170054686
Seriously, we're at the point where practically nobody would even have a use for NM Luffy
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>>170035191
>-Any unauthorized review.use.disclosure or distribution is prohibited

He/she puts that on every single image on top of her signature. I wonder how much he/she pays Oda in royalties for using his copyrighted material.
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>>170054862
It seems like it. Unfortunately, Sabo and Pica are both quite useful, and we haven't gotten them.
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>>170054881
Fan artist especially Korean, Asian, and Japanese get real bent out of shape about the perceived ownership of their art. She probably got into some spat with a tumblr reposter or a deviantart user and started doing that
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Got legend croc and jinbe to socket, is it worth using the socket books on croc? The drop rate on him was horrendous for me the last time he came around or should i just farm him and socket jinbe?
I got subs for both teams to make them usable but not dream team fuck you marco and doffy
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>>170055832
If you don't have Marco your Jinbe team doesn't work
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>>170055995
You wish
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>>170026754
Lycaroth Pirates here. Gimme them 3d2y and SW Strawhats please next Sugo please!

Also, I literally posted my info on the friends list a day ago and it's already outdated? What the hell friendlist anon!? I sent in a new form either way but seeing the proposed changes last thread hoping they make it, even on a 27" monitor it's way too big and clumsy to navigate at the moment.
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is this team good against Heracles-un?
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>>170057085
with sunny? yeah you're prob be alright
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>>170055995
So should i use the socket books on my croc or just save it?
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>>170056582
I'll take 500k less burst for 55k more HP :^)
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>>170056582
>not nearly as good as Croc team

lmao Fatfags on suicide watch
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>>170057292
Just depends on how efficient you wanna be. Croc has farmable sockets. Jinbe does too on JP but it's gonna be a long time before we get his FN. I'd say just go with whoever you expect to use more.
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>>170057292
I'd say save your tomes. Prison Croc has a HORRENDOUS drop rate (I maxed everything the FN drops outside of a skillup socketing my Slasherdile) and I too have a new lego Croc I'm going to have to socket BUT at least he's not a secret character and it can't be any worse than Afro Luffy.

Let's just pray we get Kimono Croc sometime in the future otherwise it'll just have to be gemming hard for Prison Croc. At least I can speedrun it now with all these DEX Strikers (like lego Croc).
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fuck vista stage 3 man

this shit is SO annoying
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>>170057523
>Croc is better than Jinbe
Not even that guy but no shit you fuckin' retard. Literally no one has ever said otherwise.
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Someone post the ideal Fujitora team
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>>170057618
Just use Shiryu, anon.
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I'm bored where a new real one piece game. BB was only a little fun and there's only so many times you can play PW3.
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>>170057523
Next time kuma comes around going to crawl into his anus, was busy and missed out getting him last time muhhh crocodick
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>>170057806
I can't into fighting games but really wanted to get Burning Blood, but besides fighting AI I know the only people who would play it are those who are really good at it, I doubt it has many players across any of the platforms its on.
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>>170057481
Adjust your HP to 100% there and see what happens.
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>>170058114
You do realize that's not how Sai/Chinjao actually work, right? Their boost is based off your HP when you activate the special.
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>>170058094
Last I heard Playstation version is pretty alive still. The game only recently stopped getting DLC.
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>>170058094
There's probably a few lobbies on ps4 but that about it. I would have stuck with it if it didn't feel so clunky. Combos drop for literally no reason in that game also it still has 5 open dlc slots for some reason on the character select page
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>>170058379
They added cross region play to the ps4 version so that's probably what's keeping it alive
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>>170058315
I know that. The point of that team is having 2 turn boost. Marco doesn't make sense there. Better of bringing 3D2Y Robin instead for delay and orb lock so you don't have to run Jinbe's special on the second turn.
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Is anyone here reliable farming Vista? Post your teams
I got a warning because I said fuck off tripfags, nice janitors
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>>170058632
RR heavy
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Clearly you don't you fucking retard. It doesn't matter if you heal to full because the boost is calculated when you ACTIVATE their special. The calculator is wrong.
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>>170058905
What's going on
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>>170058905
Forgot to (You) you.>>170058547
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Combo hit legend when? Is that the last gimmick they haven't put on a legend yet?
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>>170058905
Relax chimp. No need to get upset on an anonymous board.
Yes you can bring Marco assuming the boss doesn't do anything. PSY Marco works too so you don't need legend Marco that's the point.
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>tfw next sugo in about 2 weeks
>tfw I hope its Zoro


If I pull Leg Zoro or 3D2Y Zoro I have the dream Slasher team.

P L E A SE
BANDAI

https://youtu.be/blDwVvAhyEw

Shishi SONSON
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>>170057632
relax nigga I was just emphasising Croc's superiority
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>>170059067
>assuming the boss doesn't do anything
What does that even mean?
>Psy Marco
If you want significantly worse stats and a longer cooldown, yeah sure.

Marco is the core of Jinbe. Sorry you're so salty about not having him. As fun as it is watching you backpedal with each statement, I'm going to bed. Nighty night, cutie.
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>>170059301
It means if the boss kill you next or hit you down to between 30% or 70%.
Legend Marco for Jinbe is good for forests. You gotta be really stupid not wanting to use Jinbe without Legend Marco.
Sleep tight, retard.
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>>170058632
I'm pretty sure the only required RR is Caesar. Shiki/Fuji probably works too.
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>>170059578
Where big damage
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>>170059578
>I'm pretty sure the only required RR is Caesar
well you're wrong you dont need caesar or shiki to farm vista with fuji i know im doing it right now
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>>170059740
I wouldn't.
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>>170050820
Underrated as fuck
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Should i bother with colo vista if I own a legend kizaru ?
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>>170060021
Yeah he is usefull in many other teams
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>>170045641
>spends the last 2 hours avatarfagging
>do I add another avatarfag cheater

why are you even here
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>>170058632
Slow, but literally cannot loose
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>>170060376
>loose
That's what your mom said.
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SKILLUP WHEN
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>>170060021
Yeah but wait until he returns. You can farm it at 2x stamina and he's not that important.
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>accidently start Alvida with Fuji+Shiki instead of Cavendish+Shiki
>Fuji gets locked for 12 turns on Bepo
>still win

Drivens were a mistake
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>>170061038
>Pulls legends
>Still goes for retarded [Broken Legend]+Shiki team
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>>170061242
and your point is....?
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>>170061375
ALVIDA IS CUTE
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>>170059998
best op
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>>170061242
t. someone who didn't farm Shiki who's jealous of his usefulness
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>>170061849
> needing Shiki
> he doesn't have TS Luffy

How does it feels, cucks? If you don't have Fuji/Akainu/TS Luffy, the game is now unacceptable to you. Take comfort in what little time you have left in this meta.
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>>170062270
>just got Fuji this past sugo
>use Shiki on my team
>also used the Fuji + Shiki teams for all current forests
Shiki is a god.
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>>170062270
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>>170061038
Wait! Can you use the x2 stamina/drops on raids too? I didn't know you could use it on guaranteed drops!
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>>170062708
just repeat colosseums and fortnights
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>no anniversary ace socket island
>no anniversary ace himself
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>>170062910
>release the sugo at the end of the event
>everyone has all these new units they want to use
>ok heres some turtles
why the fuck wouldnt they put the anni first?
there's literally no reason not to
they completely fucked the entire anni up they are beyond incompetent the 7 deadly sins mobile game is closing march 31st i imagine global wont be long behind that they just cant run a business for shit
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>>170063021
Also like how they had Save Ace and the Clash (with fucking Buster Call after 6 months) before the skillup, while everyone's boxes were stuffed to the brim.
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>>170062910
probably saving it for the French anniversary, just to mess with us

I mean, we got Anniversary Luffy too
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>>170063290
Stop. Just stop being Cuck already, do you people never learn?
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>>170063189
it really is so stupid
they think putting in all these events first would burn gems and make people buy more like little kikes but it doesnt work like that people just wont gem the content and save for anni

if they put the anni first and then put in a bunch of shit people feel like they have to farm theyd sell more gem bundles ontop of everyone burning everything on the anni in the first place
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>>170063021
kek at least you got ELITE golden cave goyim

seriously speaking though this event is like literally the worst event we ever had I think, there's absolutely nothing in it. it's the kinda event I would come up with as a joke to shitpost with
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>>170063459
>if they put the anni first and then put in a bunch of shit people feel like they have to farm theyd sell more gem bundles ontop of everyone burning everything on the anni in the first place
Yeah, really. I would definitely have used up all my gems in anni, then when I saw Save Ace dropping cotton candy nonstop, I would have been tempted to gem for my new legends. Which would have made me buy some more since I'd be out. But since the reality happened the other way around, I didn't spend a single gem on Save Ace since I was hoarding it all for the sugo.
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>>170063634
yeap exactly the same here i want to gem for sockets and candy on my new legends but the turtles aint gonna drop em

i didnt gem at all on save ace or on the shit 20 stam CC le crap
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well alright then
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Who to focus on for Int, Trebol, Intvankov or Haruta?
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>>170064445
if you have fuji then trebol
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At least they're giving us keys to get those pigs for our new units.
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>>170064501
No Fuji, but I do have 6* Law for a free spirit team, so Iva-chan can go on there.
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>>170064723
Well I am literally a faggot so you're not wrong, anon.
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Thank you Pillz Pirates for having your sexy TS Luffy up
he works amazingly well paired with super luffy
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>>170064775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c
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What Legends do you want that aren't obvioous?(like Kaidou or Big Mom)


For me:
Vinsmoke Sanji
Garp
Magellan
Kuma
Soul King Brook


Also do you have any ideas of how to improve or "change" OPTC? I think dual types should be a thing. (f.e STR/DEX Zoro)
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>>170065605
>dual types should be a thing. (f.e STR/DEX Zoro)
dumb
only person who could of done this was blackbeard
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>>170029420
Guessing using a special like G5 Smoker that swap your captains could also mess with the RNG
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>>170065605
Sanji
Gear 4 Luffy
Dragon
Pudding
Coby
Carrot

They also need to a new Shanks and Sabo
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>>170066554
You mean shanks 6+. pls dont be a shitter anymore
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>>170066638
>Legend Shanks and Legend Sabo are less useful than their raid/invasion versions
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>>170066528
4chan is tumblr reddit territory now
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>>170065605
dis niqqa
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>>170066813
So was boa before her 6+ so maybe there is hope for them
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>>170066994
Boa is still shit
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>>170066994
but boa is still a fake red
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Can ya'll put up PSY Marco in one of your slots for comfy INT Turtle farming.

Speaking of which, was this ever announced? I saw it in the absolute fucking SHIT tier event they cooked up for us over the next few weeks but don't remember CYO TT being mentioned sooner than that.

Just to repeat, this event is FUCKING SHIT. We're never EVER going to get increased base skill up chance are we? Every event that goes by is one event further away from it being a reality. Fucking Global jews
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>>170067443
why dont you use bakarat or haruta
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>>170067586
I don't care about efficiency, I care about speed. I have a bunch of new INT characters to level so I'm going to gem it as much as I can in 30 mins @ 180 stamina.
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>>170067443
ill put up SWshanks cause hes better for it
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>>170067735
Shitrat isn't even efficient, lmao.
Turtle island in general isn't either, though, unless you have AT LEAST 150 stamina.
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>>170067781
I pulled him this Sugo but Marco is super speedy, I've never not cleared all stages in 1 turn. Hybrid is fine too I imagine though.

>>170067813
Yeah some people will use Bakrat for anything they can squeeze her into, I'm not one of those people except for evolver shit and 1 time shit like rating island.
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>>170067917
In geberal, a 2.5 and x3 lead is more than enough if your unit has at least 1300 attack. With the chain at 2.2 at least and a perfect with the final character, you will knock out the elder.

I can imagine a double 2.75 with guaranteed matching orbs will give you the same result so long as you have at least one super strong psy character.
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>>170067917
with marco you have to land greats ect
with SW shanks you can just instant tap
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>>170067968
Easy there Pedro, don't hurt yourself.
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>>170067813
Double Haruta is a much better choice for turtle farming. Slap in 3 PSY slashers and Fullybody and you clear it in about the same time as double Marco
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>>170067968
>none of these posts have anything to do with OPTC
they all do
>we pol now
you're obviously new here and you are obviously a teenager if you dont know what this site was like in 2010 and ealier before /new/ and /pol/
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>>170068068
Speaking of over 1300 attack, PSY Namule is a BEAST. Glad I maxed him from Whitebeard Allies Pt.2.

He's the second highest 4 combo attacker on my PSY Marco TT team. Never pulled RR Namule but who needs him when you've got Koala and Don Sai.

>>170068093
Yeah I guess, I'm sure the time difference is negligable. Truly I even use 2.5 captains if I run out because people seem to care less and less about putting up relevant useful captains these days. As soon as I see TT I whack up the 3x lead for fighting that type.
Just because I don't always do it doesn't mean others don't.
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>>170068387
There's too much other more important things going on right now for me to want to put up a turtle captain.

Maybe if we were in the middle of a dry spell, sure.
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well that was extremely ironic kinda hilarious that he got banned
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>>170068631
I literally don't there's going to be a time where there's 'room' for a TT 3x captain, especially these days in my experience.
But we just had a massive sugo and no source (that I know of) for INT EXP. I've got Trebol, Shiryu, Sentomaru, Whitey Bay and probably more that I've forgotten to level, still need to evolve Whitey Bay too. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I'd love to at least get my Trebol to a decent level so I can use him for Olivia next week.

Now I have all these legends I'm kind of torn as what to put in my slots, it was easy before when I only had Inthawk/Rayleigh but now I have more legends than I do slots and I'm not looking up every team for every piece of content we have up to see who I should and shouldn't have up. Truly is suffering because I just want to be helpful to new and veteran anons alike.
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>>170068880
Mihawk, always.
Enel, always.
Honestly after these two, it's up to you.

Here's the thing about turtle time, there's lots of hidden costs going into it. If you don't have the ponies, you have to schedule stamina use for that. If you don't have respective pig colors, you have to waste box space and stamina for use with that later too (unless you fees vabies, which at that point IS less exp than fodder drops and manuals from fortnights), and unless you have fodder to feed your pigs to use your babies, theb you also need to factor that in. You get no experience from it either.

With fortnights, you get guaranteed steady exp (for units) whether they be in the form of useless manuals, pigs, or even standard fodder gives about 3k to matching colors. You get good pirate exp and you may even pick up useful fortnight units or manuals you need along the way. The only hidden cost going to fortnights is ponies for pigs. Otherwise fortnights cover every other ground.

As much of a meme it is, turtle time literally is for people who are like JUST starting. Otherwise it's just a huge waste of stamina.

This is why I only put x3 leads up during dry spells.
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>>170069269
I'm not fully onboard with saying TT is people just starting, the more stamina you have the more value you get out from that bar from TT. I'd probably only be able to gem once before the timer ran out but I'd be swimming in a shit-tonne of exp after that.

I wouldn't normally do TT either but yeah, nothing (I'm running at least) is dropping INT exp at the moment. I'm drowning in QCK exp from farming Ray books (have none of the units from Olivia sadly...) but that's about it.

I have been feeding my manuals and shit to Trebol but he's only in the high 30's after a few days worth of natural stamina on Camie FN and seeing as he's max skill I'd really like to get him in at least the 80's so he's not dead weight. And my Shiryu in the same position seeing as he's a 2xhp2xatk captain, the higher the level the more value I get from his huge HP.
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>>170069269
Also is this many FN's up at once the norm from now on?
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>>170069664
What do you get from having either of those units at a high level? You said you'd use trebol for olvia, but now you've contradicted yourself saying that you don't even need to run her. Shiryu is nice to have at a high level, but what content do you currently need right now that requires him to have his max HP? You say your stam bar is 180, you definitely have a good amount of veteran knowledge and time spent to have a good box of other characters. I'm not trying to stop you from doing TT, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason. It's like if someone offered you 100 bucks with no string attached every day for a month, or if someone offered you 5 dollars a day that doubles every day for a month. TT for me is the 100 dollar option, it's just a quick cash in that you'll regret later after actually thinking how much more value the second offer is.
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>>170069752
No
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>>170069921
Really I'm just a sucker for levelling my units, I have so many max level units after such a drought of having nothing to level while hoarding for the sugo. I'm just excited to level my new shit.

There'd be nothing wrong waiting for INT pigs from some upcoming FN and there's definitely no rush, I can't help myself though.
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>>170070067
I know how you feel, honestly I do.

But, I'm happy that I have shit needing to be leveled in my box. Before I had nothing to feed, so fodder and useless manuals were literally worth nothing. Ever since that occurred to me at how many resources I was wasting, I started leaving units unevolved or under leveled so that I could have something to feed. Unless there was something super urgent, I rather enjoy slow dripping levels into my units. Because now at this point, no matter what I run (save for colo), I will get /something/ of value at all times.
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>>170069664
How the fuck do you not have anything leveled yet? My Shiryu is already MAX and so is my Trebol, the only int unit I need to level is TS Nami who's at 60. Turtles are absolutely never ever needed for anyone above plvl 20
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Yo, Metaknights.

Tell me right now if you're taking defense off your Ace or not. I'll remove you instantly.

Fucking moron.
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>>170072213
i support this post
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Thanks to Doma's specials I was able to burst Franky and his crewmate ability I was able to burst Vista on the right turn. From now on Doma is going to be my boy.
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>>170072213
I love these kinds of posts. Give me your crew name so I can remove you myself. I know you're just gonna give me the usual meme reply of jewjulie/storm/etc.

So fuck off dumb frogposters.
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>>170072658
>remove you myself

You aren't him.
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>>170072658
The Round Mabel
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>>170047639
How many books did it takes?
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>>170072709
Actually, I am. But, like I said above, I knew you would be too much of a fucking pussy.

I will never remove DR from Ace, now stop fucking bringing my name up. I don't like posting in this cesspool of retards.
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>>170072850
Yeah, you're full of it.

If you didn't care your name wouldn't be in the friend code list at all. Keep larping random people in this thread like a fucking moron while you waste sockets on legends that don't even need or have the space for it.

Maybe Reddit is more suited for your shit decision making.
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>>170072949
Post. Your. Crew. Name.
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>>170073008
nonargument

i have no reason to give my name out here because i'm gonna get shitposted endlessly probably by you about it

still a man with no proof and no hope
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>>170072658
YungNHung
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>>170073064
Now post your crew name you stupid shitposter.
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>>170073239
You're alright by me Metaknights. I'm waiting for my Ace to actually be useful before I can use him, but no doubt I'll be shitted on here too for the superior socket decision I made.

#teamDR
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>>170072213
>>170072949
>>170073448

It's his legend, he can socket it however he feels like it. He could put Resilience on it, and you still couldn't do anything about it.

Remove him if you are this triggered by someone else's character building decision. Literally shitposting behind anonimity and being too much of a sissy faggot to even name yourself shows that you are just baiting for replies. You got one, good for you. Enjoy the rest of the weekend before you have to go back to elementary school.

>>170073239
Ignore the bitchboy, he is just fishing for replies. Remember: report, hide, ignore
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>>170035194
>having 30 Perona dupes to waste

I'm not even at 20 yet.
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>>170073354
>He's a Chen, Frog, and dumb animeposter.

I can literally smell you through my screen. I knew you wouldn't post your crew name from the beginning. I knew you were just a retard trying to stir shit up for your silly little epic keks XD (do i fit in yet)

I am never going to remove DR from my Ace.
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>>170073495
didn't mean to quote you >>170073448 , missclicked
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>>170072213
With all the powercreep going on. New units like Shirahoshi giving full boards of matching orbs for free. The new meta will be carrying a super orb manipulator to get a full board of matching orbs. I will not be surprised if we get a driven unit that gives a full board of meat for fuji, probably a mink too.
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>>170073495
>this is a no hurt fee fee's zone
Redditor to the rescue I see
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>>170073448
I prefer DR, but I'm not on any team. DR and orbs are both completely luxury sockets. I just happen to prefer the one with an actually tangible effect.
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>>170073650
Well I'm the exact same, I like actually SEEING a return for my socket. Hence why I choose DR over Orbs.
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>>170073239
tHE rOUND mABEL
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>>170073630
Been here since 2006, dear newfag. I couldn't care less about hurt feelings, but this is just plain shitposting that doesn't contribute anything to the thread and isn't funny for anyone except for 11 old Peruvian kids with severe autism. Rules exist for a reason even on 4chan. You got a last post out of me, won't get another one.
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>>170073495
I will, thanks.

>>170073495
You forget to put your trip back on, buddy? Get lost from the TC subreddit on your way out? Must be nice when I make triple your wage while not ruining flexible units with sockets that literally do not change the outcome of my runs.

There are people who literally leech off your sockets with defense because they actually think that shit matters at all. What a laugh riot.
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>>170073495
>Ignore the bitchboy, he is just fishing for replies. Remember: report, hide, ignore
This is the last time I get baited this hard. The "culture" of this general is so fucking dumb, like holy shit how bad does it have to be where the anonymous posters are actually worse than the namefags trip fags, and avatar fags.
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Sengoku owners: Who do you use for orb manipulation? Every time I bring Kaku/Noland/etc. with the team, I never seem to get any use out of them, since I'm using a rainbow team that doesn't have full orb manipulation
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>>170073765
thats cool ive been here since 2003 and i think you are a whiney little faggot who should shut his mouth before i slap it for him
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>>170073876
Doesn't this literally depend on the fortnight you're running?

There's also no rule saying you can't bring Doffy. The single turn of x2 orb boost may be more than enough for what you need, even if DOffy doesn't get boosted. Plus, he's a mini manipulator.
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>>170073876
there is no good one best thing you can do is get lvl 3 orbs
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>>170065605
Remove Tandems, make Tandem orbs now do extra damage when used one after the other, say something like 10% more.
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>>170073765
>look at my oldfag card
>i'm also a complete moron

pretty impressive being this handicapped for almost 10 years
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>>170073806
cuckoldknight ur pathetic this is why ive never added you ontop of all this you are a DRdummy stop wasting posts in this thread mabel needs to post about carrots
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>these people seriously fucking use defense unironically on anything that isnt a fujitora team that has a full team of 4 socket units that probably won't be used on anything else if you have that legend
>it's for fucking ace
>i get one fucking meat orb and it fufills the same purpose that shitty socket does at level 3 for one fucking tap

baffled
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>>170073876
Breed. Not even kidding. Sengoku teams are pretty limited, he is only good to speed farm the easier content. If he ever gets a super evolution I hope Bamco bumps the 20 cost limit to 30, so the pool of characters he can use increases a little.
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>>170074024
I like the idea of tandem orbs doing something, but that's not exactly what I'd want. This means you need at least two to even take advantage of it. I think I'd rather it be the opposite of meat, where you get rewarded for hitting the perfect.

Each perfect per tandem slot increases the chain multiplier by .2 for the turn. If .2 is too weak, something like .5 would be good too.
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>>170073806
jesus christ buddy i didn't think people like you were this petty

keep your garbage sockets you're actually off my list
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>every thread the defense socket drones come out
>never point out a piece of content that it's required on
>don't own the legends it's good for
>pretend like a person using orbs requires them to beat content
every time
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>>170074205
What I think would be better for Sengoku is increasing the cost to 25-30, and allowing the highest cost unit besides Sengoku to receive the buff as well
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>>170074572
That's honestly a fantastic idea, but actually literally impossible.

Many people don't know but the reason Sengoku receives the buff is because his cost is a unique 54, instead of 55. They probably just code 54 as having the same value as 20.
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>>170074324
I just don't want to make Fujitora any more broken than he is. Making one tandem be useful already puts him way ahead.
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>>170074763
Simple, make certain raids/colos have a new mechanic that removes the "Trebol" effect. Basically, make it so that matching orbs that aren't by color don't count as matching anymore.

Don't need to slap it into everycolo/raid, but you get the idea. Fortnights dont mean anything.
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>>170074340
>round mabel removed me
I fucking knew it was you. Fuck off back to /trash/ you autist
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>>170074491
what about dr on shiryu
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>>170074205
>so the pool of characters he can use increases a little.
You realize that would allow him to use every single RR aside from legends, right? Kind of defeats his point, and would make him stupid broken.
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>>170074491
if you dont need orbs to complete content why get them then
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>>170075947
Plus Raids. Dunno if it's actually good as you have to farm them all over again. I personally think Sengoku needs a different special, his current one is straight garbage, maybe as a stronger sub he'd be fixed.
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I just got beli bagged by perona twice in a row, 120 stam down the drain. It's not fair bros
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>>170076086
it makes runs faster

tough concept to understand
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>>170073496
I wasted my luck, it seems.
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>>170031446
Who /lazyant/ here?
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>>170076245
What runs
Tell me
Give me examples where orbs actually made it significantly faster
Cause if you're saving 5 seconds on a 5 minute run, noone gives 2 shits.
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>>170075947
yeah they just need to add to his special what they did to whitebeard and make him reroll non matching orbs
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>>170076174
What needs fixing? He doesn't need to be an endgame god. He fills the roll of FN king and speed clearing. That's fine.
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>>170076086
>ywn be fucked by Mabel's BBC
Why live
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>>170076297
if you are saving 500 hp on a 5k hit no one gives 2 shits
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dr and orbs both negligible sockets yet everyone goes fucking crazy over it, pls go
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>>170076297
>1 tap unit clears on your weaker units or to kill a high health mob easily
>sw shanks
>any miniboss that you probably have to whittle down to half
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>>170076385
Because that's still a shitty role. No one cares about clearing something fast, or about FNs. As content gets harder and harder, the "endgame" gets pushed further away and the old endgame now becomes midgame, which means he's the one legend that gets worse with time.
Maybe what he needs is some godtier fortnight units instead of shitty socket bitches. Or RR units which keep a low cost even after evolution.
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>>170076935
>nobody cares about clearing stuff that takes 5 minutes a pop faster
>they actually want to bring gpu on shit like akainu stage 3 every single fucking time

good lord
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>>170076935
Is Sengoku your only legend, anon? Is that why you're so upset? Because he's not mine, and I care quite about about how fast he can speed through content.
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>>170076468
>Moving goal posts

>>170076864
>Mobs before a boss ever hard enough to NEED orb sockets
>SW Shanks needing orb sockets when they already use Tesoro and have innate orb matching
>Any miniboss being hard

What kind of G2 team do you use anon heh.........
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Question for veterans. The only make a unit such as a new player, this special is broken? Bamco wouldn't minus my 25% chance of getting pulled an alt acc on japan at the fuck up and start of the powercreep plus boosted like that type is also considerably with Bamco's current is not complaining. Whether legends can't completely want more options for sure. Plus he's fucking useless in event is not that is not true. See, not saying he's amazing, just genuinely think that can use him a shoutout to YungNHung. He is Double Shiryu, but only bring handsome character your chance, minus my 25% chance, minus my 75% chance and you look at me and you insist on japan a shit while the meantime of year? It does not normal! So you just the versions sure, but then again, and you go one on one with another legend, you got a 33 1/3 chance of getting pulled and they had units enough to carry past two weeks and you look at me and you can see they had to make a unit lie, and those slow events like does for us. It does something? You fucking autist. Are more characters look shit while like double Shiryu, but then as a captain, and then you take your OCDemands can't have to make sure. Plus he's going to realize the meantime that statement is not true. See, normally good than good.
Feels good, really good started an alt acc on japan a few weeks and you go one on one of unit such as thing thing worthless you autists are never satisfied. Then you use him a shoutout, it go because his special if you got a 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance they say that would you insist only because there's no way he's going to be AMAZING but the fuck up and story
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>>170078134
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>>170078134
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
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>>170076086
>>170076297
>>170076468

Funny. When people consider the use of Map resist/Poison/Resilience as the 5th socket, you tell them to go DR or Orbs. Yet, none of you guys can explain why you would ever need orbs or DR, when those 3 others socket, even though are pretty bad, will at least be useful on one or two content.
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what would you say has been the hardest coliseum midboss or stage boss (stages 1-4) yet?
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>>170079380
>Comparing sockets that are useful for one or two maps in the whole game to two sockets that have marginal benefit

Noone except Croc ( because of his ass clear rate ) cares about those sockets. DR and Orbs at least have uses.
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>>170078134
Did you just use the autofill thing on your phone or something?
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>>170079509
Kinemon or Kanjuro
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>>170079509
tnami
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>>170079509
Most people will say Nami I think. Or Ace colo.

I cleared all colo, and the worst one for me was fucking Buggy. Go fuck yoruself Buggy.
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>>170079509
TNami was awful
Oars Jr was also pretty rough
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>>170079553
>Yet, none of you guys can explain why you would ever need orbs or DR

The all discussion above was about the usefulness of those two socket and you can't explain why you would ever need them. It's like that in every fucking thread. Maybe it's time to understand that those two socket don't really have any benefits.
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>>170079640
This.

TNami was the fucking WORST

Also Buggy with the bomb shuffle+bind. Fuck that fight too
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Young Doffy is the sexiest man in animu
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>My name calling and witch hunting was starting to get ignored.
>I know, I'll start up the age old DR vs orbs.

I am 100% convinced that there is literally ONE shitposter who starts all of this just because he's bored.
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UNITS WHERE DR IS OBJECTIVELY THE RIGHT CHOICE
>Fuji
>Shanks
>Boa
>Corazon
>Tesoro

UNITS WHERE ORBS IS OBJECTIVELY THE RIGHT CHOICE
>Ace
>Sengoku
>TS Luffy
>Barto

For everyone else, It literally does not matter.
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>decided to run alvida with a 6* law crew
>get to bepo
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>>170080031
>>170079642
Wtf how was that bitch hard, just use Double Enel lmao.
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>people said Shiki was worthless if you owned Caesar
>I've used both on the same team for 90% of all colo fights
Was that the biggest lie /opgg/ has told since "autoheal is a meme"?
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Is Orbs supposed to be on my Fuji or not I socketed my shit mostly to help other people now everyone is acting like I did my shit wrong
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>>170080358
>mfw I know you don't own Fuji and are trying to pass Shiki off as being good by riding the back of a friend Fuji.

Ok.
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>>170080385
Orbs is bad on Fuji yes. It's been mathematically proven It hardly increases the rate of matching orbs, specifically for him.
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>>170080385
5th socket doesn't matter, orb or anything is ok don't worry
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>>170080212
>Fuji
>DR
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>>170080550
Don't give him a fucking stroke over a unit that doesn't even need his 5th socket.

>>170080385
Literally either one would work.
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>>170080448
(you)
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>>170080697
Post your box, so I can see your Fuji.
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Got a copy of colo Alvida from Underground, that was a lot easier than I expected.

Should I try to grab a few more, or just sit on the one?
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>still one 4/5 socket to finish up before my log luffy is complete
>then i get to do the same for eight other legends
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>>170080692
I mean, you're right in that it's not worth worrying over since both won't make or break a run. But if you're a minmaxing autist like me, you'd go DR.
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>>170080874
Not worth farming unless you're doing Chaos. Just farm FNs.
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>>170080737
Boy am I glad I didn't fall for that meme. It would suck to have a usable Shiki right now. It's exactly the least useful thing at this moment.

Get Fucked
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>>170080250
>thought he just silenced PSY units for a few turns
>get to him and he locks my Kizarus for 10 turns each

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>170081112
Yeah, but obviously he isn't, so don't drag him into your autism.

He just wants okay sockets, and as long as he has bind/heal/despair/cdr and orbs or dr he's fine.
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>>170080212
>Shanks
>DR
spotted the retard
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>>170080737
>>170081137
APOLOGIZE
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>>170081127
Sounds good to me. I might just try to get to/clear Tower of Law in the story, instead. Perona FN is driving me crazy.
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>>170081137
>>170081461
I asked him to post his box.
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>do two perona 2x stam runs
>ZERO peronas
>ZERO g2 books
g2 books are legend rare aren't they
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>>170081137
That's my screenshot what the fuck man
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>>170081554
should have MAXed him when you had the chance
>not MAXing all unique units
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>>170080212
>Fuji
>>170080212
>Shanks
>>170080212
>Tesoro
>>170080212
>DR
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>>170081620
No it isn't.
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>>170081639
I never had the chance, this is the second time perona is up ever since I started playing a year ago and the first time she was up with lucci and another very important fn to me so I didn't do her.
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>>170080385
you own fuji
therefore you know that fuji with orbs is a million times better than fuji without the difference is enormous
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>>170080737
>>170081137
>>170081461
>>170081553
>>170081620
>>170081670
this is all me
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>playing this stupid shit instead of grand order, brave exodus, or granblue fantasy
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>>170080550
its mathematically to increase your matching orb chance by alot you fat heathen
if you dont own the character just shut the fuck up
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>>170081670
You know what prove it yours then you lying rat
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>>170081137
>needing shiki for this when you have legend doffer

holy shit bad i clear this colo with a F2P fuji team
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Why does this man have both Shiki and Caesar on his team?
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>>170082130
he fell for the Shiki meme and is desperately trying to save face.
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>>170082130
what man?
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>>170081961
Legend Doffy is literally just Enel with slightly more ATK. You can't orb boost.

I'm just like you, but better.
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>>170082130
There's a thing called "Chaos Colisseum" and on the 5th round, there are 2 different bosses.
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>>170082236
i dont remember enel converting orbs into matching
its good though you down syndromes need all the help you can get to beat easy content i understand
its good that you spent so much money/time rerolling on the game so you dont have to think and can just continue to eat inbetween stam refills fatman
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>>170082130
Ceasaro doesn't change block orbs to matching.
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>>170057618
just use zehahaha
easy OHKO
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>>170080212
Why does gamewith have DR on TSLuffy?
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>>170081858
>>170081646
>>170081447
Post your crewnames so I can delete you
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>>170082609
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>>170082685
post yours
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>>170080737
>>170081137
that is a very nice looking box you have
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>>170080212
The fuck is wrong with DR on TS Luffy? Or Barto?

It's one of the three legends I'd even argue it for. Or Whitebeard.
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>Post your name so I can delete you
This general and its unfunny maymays are fucking retarded I swear to god
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>>170082685
The Round Mabel
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>>170082812
>Or Barto
oh holy shit diminishing returns nigger do you speak? you arent reducing 10% damage when you fully socket dr on barto you are reducing like 5%
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>Promo Rebecca was added to the character log
What is global scheming?
To put her in the rayray shop to tempt whales into buying a worthless unit?
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>>170082903
I wasn't aware there was even diminishing returns in this game.

Never ran into a case where that was a thought. I don't see what's wrong with Barto reducing even less damage since the sockets synergize with Whitebeard anyways, right?
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>>170082967
Code Shirahoshi soon
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>tfw no Sakura robin
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>>170083126
>tfw no cold doffy
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>>170083010
do you think 2 30% health cuts reduces health by 60%?

do you think a double barto captain = 60% damage reduction?
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>>170083313
Obviously not.

It's still less damage taken. Barto is literally the stall KING
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>>170083395
>Barto is literally the stall KING
>What is Corazon
>What is Enel
>What is Shirahoshi
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>>170082470
I've farmed the orbs. Every. Single. Time.
There's not a single time he couldn't be Enel, but Doffy is just cooler. Technically, Enel would be better since I haven't had a chance to socket Doffy yet since I just pulled him this sugo.

>>170082789
>>170081553
I don't know why I've taken this much of a detour with shitposters, but here. You can have part of my driven box in exchange for at least admitting you're wrong.
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>>170083549
>Name edited out.
Jesus dude, do you understand the purpose of screenshotting your box?
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>>170083207
>tfw no Monet /w Glasses
>tfw no Young Doffy or Pink on global
>tfw no Female Law
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>>170083638
Yes, so I can be turned into a meme and shitposted about for the next few years. I'll try to do better.
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>>170082816
I honestly think it's hilarious. It's trying to be aggressive but at the same time it's sad that the only threat is being deleted, as if it's a big deal.
Comedy gold desu.
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I need a team for farming Paulie. I'm not even gonna try to farm Vista. His lead up rounds are already too fuckin hard.

Iceberg was a motherfucker too.
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>>170083754
you're pathetic and shit at the game as soon as content comes out that fuji cant clear youll be done
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>>170084007
>getting this mad over literally nothing
cool the autism jets, anon
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>>170084000
Just use Shiryu desu
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>>170084000
Paulie's harder than Vista I think.
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>>170084212
I don't have Shiryu. Why is Colo so hard? Iceberg was so hard and now I have to make a team that can beat him and still have enough juice to kill Paulie.
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>>170084136
>being this terrible at a simple mongoloid game
>being overweight
just throw in the towel and go play dokkan shitter
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>>170084282
Gamewith says he isn't for all that's worth. It also highly depends on what units you own.
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Is there any point to grinding non-chaos colos?
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>>170084501
grinding? No, not unless you can't clear the Chaos level
You should still clear obviously
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>>170084282
Idk about the final round but I don't know that I can even get to it for Vista. I'm there on Paulie but have serious doubts about getting past Iceberg and still beating him.
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>>170084450
Yeah, probably.

I just think that the solution to Franky (just Kuma) leaves a lot more room to deal with Vista on your team than the solution to Iceburg does.
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>>170072268
You can replace Lucci for Cindry in a Doma team for a semi-full board without relying on boss tricks.
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>>170084361
Chaos colo is the real end game. The toughest part about it IMO is that (unless you have Fuji/maybe TS Luffy), you need a lot of different teams/units to be able to clear. Sometimes if you don't have just the thing you need you have no chance at completing even a 1-4 stage.
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>approaching 1 year of playing this bad game
What a ride when I joined it was all Zephyr never ever and bad SP maymays now it's Sabo never ever and bad Yungnhung maymays
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>>170084729
I have Fuji but no max raid Doffy. And Iceberg give you weak orbs every turn. I tried using Curiel because he is driven but it wasn't enough to have one orb. I finally beat him with all int team using Rayleigh and Tnami and a 6* marco sub.
I used the orb swap to to get a board to kill his mobs, then I traded weak orbs with a final curiel hit until I had to use Marco. Got him to 20% and he put up a god damn hit barrier gemmed
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>>170084361
>Iceberg was so hard
What did he mean by this?
My advice, don't go in blind.
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Why does TS Robin have such an inferior design to pre-TS Robin?
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>>170085330
>marco
fuck you faggot I still can't get him
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>>170085348
>Muh anime only tan
That's fucking all it is at least Nami shitter have half of a leg to stand on when they bitch
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>>170085330
>Maxed PSY Marco
I tend not to read guides because they all center around some unit that needs 20 skill ups I don't have.
I try to make my own teams with what I actually have to work with and advice from anons.
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>>170084729
there real endgame starts with the 50 stam colos, having a random 3rd stage boss really fucks with most teams
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>>170085440
>>170085517
You don't need him. I went in with an all STR Blackbeard team and didn't even get despaired and it was good enough. Everyone has low health.

What you do need is a maxed BB and lvl 2 CDR would be nice.
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>>170085517
I can understand this, but I think reading guides and trying to find eligible substitutes for the units you're lacking or finding ways to stall harder when you don't have the skillups you need is also very helpful.
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>>170085614
Well thats nice I appreciate the suggestion but I already gemmed once out of annoyance to kill Iceberg. I considered it worth because they payout is 3 gems. The real question is will that team beat Paulie too?
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>>170085451
President time skip Robin was based by being a sly spy/recon who got shit done. Post time skip all she does is giggle at Luffy shenanigans
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>>170085762
But Robin OHKO'd Hakuba and Saved Kyros and Rebecca from Diamante.
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>>170085751
Don't gem for revive agian. It's not or ever will be worth it.
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>>170085762
Made up shit Robin has done more post time skip than she every did pretty other than being an object to obtain in Enies Lobby
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>>170085920
Sometimes 20% fuckery makes me gem because it pisses me off. Thats what Bamco was going for I'm sure. I try not to do it but the salt is too strong sometimes.
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>>170085330
>"I'm a veteran, BB stops bring useful. Same with Marco. You will never use them in later game content"
Talk about >>170080358.
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This was my first pulls in this game
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>>170085451
But I read the manga, too. I liked her pre-TS hair a lot more.
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>>170086079
Okay.
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>>170086206
What was yours?
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>>170086079
She's actually one of the good Log units, pairs well with Tesoro caps, and can be used on Sengoku teams.
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>>170086279
donkrieg
then miss valentine
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Whaddya know I did the mid level colo and Paulie dropped haha
Is it worth to farm skillbooks on the midlevel colo like on Chaos Tilestone who is easy if I don't think I can beat the final round?
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>>170086279
We walking down memory lane?
Bet you can guess my name.
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>>170086518
It's never worth farming anything on the lower difficulties unless you absolutely need him for a team to beat an extremely important raid or something.

So, basically no.
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>>170086079
>>170086314
>>170086524
I like the one where people take the first 5 units they got minus Luffy and Zoro and try to do a piece of content with them
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>>170086794
That would be cheating for rerollers. I'd have to use the first 5 from my original account, which I can only remember Buggy being my first pull.
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>>170086708
Aww well back to farming FNs I guess. Shit you really have to have sturdy foundations before you can work your way up in this game but thats one of the things I like about it.
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>>170086957
>Shit you really have to have sturdy foundations before you can work your way up in this game
You have no idea.

Good to see that you're enjoying it though.
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>>170086794
It would be much easier now with the plus evolutions.
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>>170087104
>You have no idea.
shut the fuck up you elitist faggot dont talk to him like that
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>>170081137
>smoker

Do you really not have a more useful DEX driven unit? Is the damage reduction really that core for what you're running?
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I really hope we get movie fortnights back some day...
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>>170087236
you need dmg reduction or heal on vista
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>>170087201
I'm GUP you fucking assmuncher, who the fuck do you think you're talking to. I'll talk to newbies like the piece of trash they are because I've earned It.
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>>170087317
Really? I'll have to keep that in mind when I go to run him then.

How hard are the preceding fights? I know Bepo made Alvida a fucking pain in the ass to do.
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>>170087236
you dont own fuji do you?
whitechase is one of the best options for a fuji team
you tank like 4 hits from franky then reduce damage on vista and clear him
but whitechase is also required for clearing forests that block delay as hes basically GPU that does damage on a fuji team
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>>170086950
Eh who cares it's still fun to see, I picked my oldest friend but I don't think they're from this general
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>>170087201
I'm just saying that the game opens up in layers.

You max your Mihawk, Monster Chopper, and GPU and all of a sudden you have no issues with Doffy. You max your Doffy and Kuma and all of a sudden you can clear everything.

The shitposting has really gotten out of control lately.
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>>170087432
I don't take any hits on Franky. That's a turn 1 Franky, turn 3 Vista kill team.
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>>170087398
my crew name is The Round Mabel and i might be newish and not very good and annoying and have shit sockets and dont deserve the legends i have but i have a strong following in this general and my posts are full of (you)s so dont talk to me like that again or ill have all my best janitor friends look into your posts
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>>170087668
if you do it without shiki you take hits
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>>170087802
Yeah, it would still be easy. I'm just planning on doing 30 runs of Vista over the next few weeks, so I'd rather use Shiki.
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>>170087512
I've been maxing them little by little. Maxing GPU was possibly the most miserable experience of this game.
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Googling Paulie teams, I came across this. The trick is to Raki and Ace on Iceberg, and Doffy,Z,Boa on Paulie.
Would it not be better to use my colo Franky instead of Raki?
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>>170087432
>you dont own fuji do you?

I don't even want him considering all the other fucking units I still need to socket and CC.
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>>170088009
you need 2 of them
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>>170088089
Yeah, but you can take a very very long time working on your 2nd one.
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Fortnight when
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>>170088089
Eww what for?
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>>170088296
one bind despair one autoheal orbs
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>>170087670
s-s-s-s-sorry mister mabel
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>>170088078
No. You need the orb from Raki to take out Iceberg and then Paulie.
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>>170088348
>Orbs on GPU
Full fucking retard, you only need one with Bind Despair, if you want AH just use Usopp+
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>>170088550
nice coffin boat you have there dont worry youll make it through ace forest soon
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This is extreme bullshit
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>>170088659
>needing a coffin boat for ace forest

Am I reading your post right?
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>do kaku with a friend BB
>bring jozu to avoid the 35k slash
>forgot BB doesnt allow you to reduce anything

wops
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>>170088849
Kid Robin never.
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>>170088849
You didn't want it hard enough
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>>170088858
no
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>>170088917
If you were using BB you should have killed Kaku before his first attack
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>max sugar
>start drowning in books immediately afterward
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Will the next round of missions have better rewards?
I don't want no elder turtle and red plated lobster prizes
I want skillbooks and stamina refills. dope shit like that.
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>>170088447
now thats more like it
dont forget to add me to the TOP of the new friendcode list new autistic list man!
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>>170089308
>missions
Anon
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>>170088858
He's making fun of you by implying that you can only clear Mihawk forest.
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>>170089294
You maxed her outside the skillup? Fuck off you are gonna tempt me into wasting my books.
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With QCK Kalifa, is the damage reduction determined when you're hit or when you activate the special? If I activate it at 1% HP then heal myself to full, then attack, will I get the 100% reduction?
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>>170089308
We got our last set of missions in June or July of last year. They're also Japan's last set of missions.

>>170089435
I've almost maxed SWUsopp
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>>170089485
no
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>>170089435
It only took like 15 books but I am also dumb and lucky so don't do what I do
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>>170089558
Maybe we secretly got the x2 rates and Bamco just gonna act like we never didn't have them so they don't look bad for favoring JP
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>>170089516
I'm so angry, I haven't gotten a single Usopp book
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>>170089661
Mine's on 16 right now and I have 7 books.

I got 2 skillups from Save Ace though.
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>>170089659
I doubt it it took me 30 Doffy books to max him
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>>170088659
>Socketing and skilling an entire New GPU because you're too bad to beat forests
Top kek
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>>170089761
Allow me to rephrase, I have never gotten a single book from this fortnight or Save Ace.
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>>170089342
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>>170090190
have you tried clearing it?
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>>170090190
I've been lightly gemming it. How much have you run it?
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>>170090037
nice one dude only took you 17 minutes to think that one up you just keep asking for teams to clear _X when new and old events come out we'll be here
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>>170090342
Farmed Kizaru the whole time he was up.
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>>170028285
you're retarded
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>>170089762
you know there are people in japamnan who use 20 books and get no skill, right?
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First it was Rayligh
Then it was LL
what's the next "set for life" legend that will lose to powercreep? Ace or Fuji is my guess
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>>170087670
>>170082902
>>170075296
>>170073709
>>170072773

>being this mad over one person
did the guy shit in your cereal or something buddy?
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>>170090843
back to >>>/v/ my dear /v/ermin
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>>170090843
Is GDC the biggest cancer of vidya?
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>>170090818
It's already Kizaru. As much as I would love it to be Fuji, it's literally impossible unless they just start making anti-Driven debuffs.
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>>170090843
>>170090485
haha what the fuck is with the identity politics in this thread. these two dead sure they know who they are talking to in a thread of 70 posters
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>>170086524
Can I still guess if I know who you are?
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>>170090818
It was absolutely never Rayleigh. People were calling him shit from day one because G3 was already better. He has always been garbage by virtue of being Inferior to a 5*. Particularly one who, at the time, was easy to pull due to the small unit pool.
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>>170091184
It's cute seeing new players act like they've been here a while
Back in the day he was considered the second best legend in the game behind Log Luffy, then the chain limiter debuff came out and people started valuing him a little less, then it grew.
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>>170089485
Yes. You can use Enel, reduce damage by 100%, then heal back with Marco.
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>>170091026
Loads of block orb swaps
OR they could make a new mechanic (like chain multiplier locker what started doing Rayligh in) either that stops making some orbs matching or something to that effect.
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>>170091327
>>170089536
I don't know who to believe..
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>>170091102
I can see you're already right
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>>170091328
>Loads of block orb swaps
not nearly enough

>stops making some orbs matching
You can't just make something that makes it impossible for other teams to clear too though. Chain limiter hurts everyone, but only kills Ray Ray. Screwing with matching orbs kills everyone except Akainu.

You have to go out of your way to kill Driven teams. Their parts are just too good to do it any other way.
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>haven't even run oliva yet because i still need to socket/max perona
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>>170091619
Nah, not ALL orbs, like a temp debuff that makes TND/RCV unfavorable.
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>>170091619
Literally just make a debuff that matching orbs dont count as matching unless it's the same color I.E tnd and rcv stop counting as matching.

You dont need to slap it into every raid and colo, though.
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>>170091270
Chain debuff isn't the only reason he's shit though.
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>>170091436
believe me
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>>170091790
>>170091795
That just brings him down to being a slightly better Ace though, and it's still a highly targeted "Fuji killer" that doesn't actually kill him.
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>>170091860
You're right, but that's where it all started.
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>>170091924
You don't NEED to fucking kill legends, you fucking aspie retard.
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>>170084007
Well, it's a good thing Fuji has a 100% clear rate and we'll never catch up to japan. :^)
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>>170091270
No he wasn't. I've been playing since release and have been in these threads since they started on /a/, and anyone even semi intelligent always considered him shit. People posted math the day be came out and were laughing about how garbage he was compared to G3. Only fucking retards ever considered him good.

Yeah we had fucking morons in this thread defending him for 1.5 years. I remember getting insulted by like a dozen anons because I called a tier list that put him in S tier retarded as recently as six months ago. But us elite players always knew he was trash and even the fucking morons who thought he was good never acted like he was as good as LL used to be considered.

Don't fucking act like you know better than me because I've been posting in these threads since day fucking one.
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>>170092017
>and I have over 400 confirmed kills
You're trying way too hard to be wrong.
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>>170091924
>that doesn't actually kill him
Everyone bitches about chain limiter killing Rayligh, but you can simply outlast it. You could do the same here. Yet this prevents you from using something like Coby to swap all meat orbs.
This also, to a lesser extent, hurts everyone because they gain 2 unfavorable sockets.
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>>170092005
Whoa, where the fuck are you getting off? Seriously, stop.

I was replying to someone who said that Ace or Fuji were going to be kill and I said that Fuji kill was impossible. They're not going to do it either way, so just take your medication and simmer down.
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>>170092017
Is this a new copypasta?
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>>170091270
>captain ability that's fallen behind other (especially recent) legends
>garbage special
>good RCV but his other stats suck
>completely shut down with a more commonly appearing debuff

He's good for beginners who can't time their hits worth shit, that's it. It's kind of hard to tell what they're going to do with his 5+ form though, considering his kit.
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>>170092017
No I been in this thread forever and anons used to talk about how you could clear any content with Ray and a few shit posters would post github teams with G3 who is so uncomfortable and no one would ever want to use for anything now if they had an alternative.
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Things may be looking up now.
Put up your Harutas, I'd surley appreciate it.
Anyone know if Trebol/Bac, Fuji/Bac or Bac/Haruta works on Olivia? I'm going to have to start experimenting.
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>>170092118
Being a 2.75x rainbow captain at best with no other text is what kills Rayleigh. I'm just saying that there are plenty of ways to get around just about everything. You would just use a different orb manipulator than Coby.
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>>170092017
I still defend him, he can clear almost anything today
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>>170092359
Trebol/Bac maybe.
Fuji/Bac probably.
Bac/Haruta probably not.
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>>170092349
Those "shitposters" were only showing off the superior captain.

You know Rayleigh is nearly as dependent on perfects as G3 is anyway. His damage is fucking garbage if you can't hit perfects consistently. He may not suffer as much as G3, but he's certainly not someone you can get away with hitting greats on.
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>>170092287
I agree with everything you said, but
>He's good for beginners who can't time their hits
Rayleigh loses fuckloads damage if you miss/don't hit perfects so I don't know what you're on about with that
>>
>tfw I remember seeing boxes with 10+ balloon luffys in them
>still don't have one after 100+ pulls in 7/11
>don't even want him anymore, would absolutely never use him
It has been a strange ride.
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>>170091924
Just make a boss immune to health cuts and fuji keels over
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>>170092673
He's an easier version of timing-reliant captains. You won't completely shitcan your damage when you fuck up like you will with LL/G3, but you won't be dishing out much damage either.
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>>170092495
Clear rate isn't necessarily indicative of how good a legend is. Rayleigh has a higher clear rate than Croc and the same as BB, but I doubt you'd fine anyone sane saying he's better than either. He's outdated in every way. Especially compared to the most recent legends.
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Are there any Cabbage teams for Vista? I can't find anything that works without Cabbage having a max CD, which is more or less impossible right now.
There's nowhere to stall during Vista, I want that fucker but he's just too obnoxious.
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well I've now wasted 180 stam on perona without a single perona poster or G2 book to show for it
Is this piece of shit fortnight worth running or should I just wait till Tontatta fn to max my g2
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>>170092860
Then isn't he just a tanky legend like every other tanky legend? I guess you could reach the point where TS Luffy and Akainu were the only people who could clear anything if you really wanted to, but I just don't see that happening myself.
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>>170092820
I pulled him last Sugo and got excited for a second,when I saw him. Then I realized that like you I'll never touch him.
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>>170093224
I'd still like to have him since it used to be the first thing I'd look for when someone posted their box. It's just a trophy more than anything really.

Even in rankings, he's outclassed by both LL and Killer.
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>>170090671
Nice argument buddy.
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Fuck G3

OTOH LL is still a one punch pirate king, if not akainu-tier
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>>170091619
>You can't just make something that makes it impossible for other teams to clear too though.

As long as hp are scale down, you can beat it. Fuji without matching orb is a worthless 1.5x booster. LL, Kizaru, WB can still deal tons of damage without matching orb.
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>>170086524
Speaking of memory lane


Post your worst sugo of all time

Also I dare anyone to top this
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>>170094001
easily topped
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>>170094680
>3D2Y Zoro
>trash
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>>170094680
>3D2Y Zoro
>bad sugo

fuck no son, that character is worth 100 gems alone
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>>170094680
kys
>>
Shout out to Sleeping Forest. You're awesome.
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>>170094857
>>170094869
>>170094872
>a shitty dupe
>not trash
ok even if is a dupe and good its 1 good character in a heap of shit terrible multi its during fuji sugo too on a driven rate up
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>>170094001
This was the worst for me.
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>>170086524
I like this game
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>>170066837
Whats with all these deleted posts?

Also yeah we need to email hiroshimoot about these jannies being utter garbage
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Boom
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>>170096310
Hey my first ever friend from the general this is a stroll down memory lane
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>>170095872
>>170087196
if you sort by get date and can immediately see a legend in your box like these rerolling luckers fucking remove me immediately i have no time for people who dont know the true difficulty of this game
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Memories
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>>170096671
Rereolling after pulling 17 other units? Don't be a stupid fuck.
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>>170096671
You can clearly see I didn't reroll and pulled that Rayleigh purely through luck my first pull was Usopp hammer and I had time to complete 3 islands and farm Perona before I pulled him.
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>>170096843
>>170096857
post your crew names right now
>>
>>170096949
You have to guess thats the game
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>>170096949
Post your box with your name.
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>>170096671
Why haven't you evolved your Luffy.
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>>170096671
>g3
You're one to talk
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>>170096671
>rerolling stigma
I remember when this was as big as DR v orbs
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>>170097702
Oh it's a tripfag without a trip.
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>>170097608
And Pedro's vs p2w
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>>170097702
Instead of posting my name, just favorite everyone from here you have added.
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Are the ranking rewards and targets up for time travelers yet? If we're getting a specific tome, I'd like to know which kind.
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>>170097931
>tripfag
ive literally never tripped ITT
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>>170096671
Looking at it now, it was kind of shitty that I pulled almost every white whale this community's had within my first two months of playing.
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>>170098956
>Pulled every white whale
>No good units visible
???
>>
>>170099342
>he didn't play a year ago when units like law/apoo, robin, and marco were immensely useful to have

i think that's just your opinion bro
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So, 30 SW Usopp books shold be more than enough, right? Or, should I really just take the safe route of 35 (1 every 5).

>mfw need to farm literally everything going on right now.
Im thinking SW Usopp is first priority,Luffy+ books next, then some Vista.
>>
>>170099929
>Look up guides for colo
>Legends everywhere
>Most guides are made by whales
makes you think
>>
>>170099929
good units =/= white whales
>>
>>170100451
Use them all now
>>
>>170100493
>calling whale on people with multiple legends
You'll never get anywhere
>>
>>170100451
I got 19 usopp books right now and switched to perona, next week both returning fortnights are dogshit and I don't care about vista much so that'll be 7 days of just olvia.
Just go Perona, though I haven't gotten a single luffy book or perona poster in 3 runs so far so dunno if it's not a waste
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>he's not farming perona/colo right now and just waiting until the next fortnight rotation to farm olvia
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>>170100493
I have 2 accounts with 5 legends each and have never spent a cent on this game. Sorry you've had bad luck, but that isn't my fault.
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>>170101159
I'm using my max Legend Doffy and 3d2y Robin to now run Pepperoni because Nico Olivia was way more fun and satisfying to farm. She and Saul literally can only drop themself or a book in their fights that's good shit
>>
I didn't know a more cancerous general than ours existed till I took a peek into the Mass Effect General. You've been outdone, OPGG. By the way how big is OPTC? I might be getting a "new" phone and want to know if it will fit.
>>
>>170101159
anon I need Robin and Usopp books. Moria isn't that bad either, and I can't reliably farm Vista because I'm missing those one or two lynchpin units.
>>
>See Doc Q changes block/tnd/rcv into matching on strikers
>evolve him
>go check who produces rcv/tnd
>no one
I hate this fucking game
>>
>>170101559
>trying to use Doc Poo
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>>170101162
Isn't that just you having good luck? Pull rates are atrocious.
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>>170101512
this is the best thread on the board, newshitter
you don't know hell
>>
>>170101512
Its like 2.5 gigs. Not a big game whatsoever
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Another one down
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>>170102117
>>170101512
Its 1.5 for global, 1.9 for JP
>>
>>170101997
If you've been playing a significant amount of time and pulled a fair amount, but don't have more than one or two legends? That's bad luck. Go play FGO and you'll be praising the gods at Bandai for the OPTC pull rates.
>>
>>170101159
>Xerath do something retarded
>muh privilege

Come on, OddOne stopped competitive since like what? end of season 4 maybe?

>>170101512
/vg/ as a whole is pretty garbage. I created a reddit account for this game, because itdidn't even cross my mind to enter the trashcan that /vg/ is.
>>
>>170102213
>remembered the early days and the guides from that one Garpfag who recommended him on literally everything
Damn
>>
>>170102549
Meant for >>170102115
>>
>>170102117
>>170102341
Oh cool I'll have enough space for both versions on the same phone. Both can be on the same phone with no conflicts right?
>>
>>170102549
go back to fucking league
>>
>>170102372
I mean, that's fair. F/GO was reroll hell because you'll never pull another 5* servant.

On the other hand, while the rates in OPTC are much better, they aren't exactly amazing here, either (on global, that is. JP has it much better). Do pulls outside of a 2x legend rate, and you might not see another legend, either.
>>
>>170102734
>playing a garbage game

This is not 2012 anymore kiddo.
>>
>>170101559
Not true.
There are characters that produce rcv/tnd
Its just most are pretty shit
Colo Coby is the only one I think of worth using
>>
>>170102549
>lelelelel /vg/ is trash except for /lolg/
>im a redditor who only comes here to shitpost
How does it feel to be walking, breathing garbage?
>>
>>170103921
>Can't read
>r-r-redditor garbage
>>
>>170102703
Not really. If you have an Apple phone then it'll ask you to make a JP iTunes account to download it, but you can do it for free so really theres no problem.

>>170102893
$15,000 USD for one copy of Scatatch is beyond absurd. Never play FGO, ever.
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>>170104053
>outed himself as a leddit faggot
>c-cant read huh?
>>
>>170104663
>talk about /lolg/ when I say I never went to /vg/ because it's shit
Even a 6yo would understand also

>trying this hard to fit in
Always easy to spot new people like you. So, after this whole year discovering 4chan, how is it? Do you enjoy it?
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>>170104913
>i-i n-never go to /vg/!?!?!
>stop trying to be t-tough in front of me newf-f-fag
you're embarassing yourself
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>>170064847
I'm happy I could help
>>
>>170105439

>>170103921
>>170102549

Come on, you're the one embarassing yourself here. Reread the original post, admit you're wrong, and apologize and everything is gonna be fine.
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am i the only non redditor here?
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>>170105652
>wants me to apologize for embarassing him for being a reddit fag and shitposting on a thread for a game he doesn't play
Here's my apology: Sorry you were born with brain damage. You can fuck off now.
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>>170102920
go back to fucking overwatch
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>>170106325
>being trigger that much by the word reddit
>can't read and understand a 4 lines long post
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>>170101159
>He's not maxing Olivia, Saul, Kid Robin, and Sugar right now when there is twice the time to do it
>>
>>170106605
I'm too busy maxing 5+ Luffy and Perona who won't be around when Olvia will still be.
>>
>>170106457
>playing overwatch

Do people still play that?
>>
>>170106592
I thought you don't post in /vg/? So why are you still here?
No one here is going to comfort you for being retarded and spending your red skull gem on a skill up attempt. We're also not going to congratulate you for spending your life savings on a sugo either.
>>
>>170106745
have fun not maxing Luffy and Perona because not enough time and also not maxing any Olivia units because wasted time trying to max Luffy and Perona
>>
>>170106592
>being trigger
>4 lines long
is english your first language or 2nd language?
this is pretty terrible but considering reddit is full of downs it isnt surprising
>>
>/OPGG/ Goes full retard: The Sequel
>>
>>170107201
Go fuck yourself.
>>
>>170107201
We are dead but not THAT dead.
>>
>>170106913
Let's try again
>Start optc
>Found nothing on 4chan, because I never visit /vg/, /v/ is already shit, I don't want to be on the retarded little brother of /v/
>reddit is the only place to actually get info about the game
>months later, find this place from /a/

Do you understand now?
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Experimenting with this team. Planning on using Haruta for the mobs on Olvia the turn I kill her. Should I use Mihawk now or can I kill him without?
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>>170108167
iirc, he hits for 8k and do nothing at <20%
>>
New thread
>>170108587

>>170108587

>>170108587
>>
>>170101512
Five nights at fred
Undertale

There is always worse generals anon. Be happy we discuss content while most other generals just waifu posting, shipping, and porn discussion
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>>170101476
You can be beli bagged by Olvia, but it's really rare. Dunno about Saul.
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