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VyKangz Edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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>>169967521
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First for I'm gay
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Third for the servers are down again.
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L B
IS MY
B F
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>>169967631
good for you mate
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>Streamers on twitch that say they're top 1%

How do I check what I am? I have an 84% winrate in duels and elims
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>>169967498
how the fuck does orochi lose 0-3 to a raider
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>>169967731
they are full of shit
also winrate means jack shit, its broken
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>>169967626
>that filename
>tfw lone conq
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>>169967783
by playing dominion all day
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just played a team of 4 peacekeepers

that's a first. Sounded like cats fighting
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>>169967826
I love that one because you can tell I've been smacking her in the face with taps all round. All those twitch guards to try and cover top.
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>>169967731
The PvP stat tracker in the OP
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>>169967731

fhtracker.com

But it literally means nothing. You can be shit, like me, and still be top 1% in stuff. It just looks really good as clickbait on a stream title, lo and behold, the retards flock to them.
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Who /not necessarily bad but unable to match a high level of play/ here?

Doesn't help that I main LB.
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>>169967879
can you stop posting this in every second thread?
you used revenge for a free heavy and then zone a guy who didn't even attempt the parry
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>>169967986
>be decent at the game
>make a stream named "high level duels for honor top %1 [character name]"
>whats that spell? LOADSEMONE, probly
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>>169967986
What's the stat that 'matters' here?
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is this good
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>>169967731
https://fhtracker.com/

those twitch streamers are all liars though, they just say it to get views anon
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>>169968175
literally none of them
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>>169967986
>pretty sure this means literally no one plays raider.

>That or all these fucking peacekeepers I'm fighting are literal gods.
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>>169968063
Gonna post it in the next one just to piss you off.

Would you rather I posted one of me spamming random directions with a PK?
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I've got about 20 hours logged on this so far, all on controller. I'm pretty shit at changing attack direction on the fly so thought I'd give m+kb a go as it seems direction changes would be more intuitive with a mouse (and I'm used to m+kb more than a controller). Holy shit how do you play like this?! I'm experiencing high levels of anal devestation and think I'll just settle with the controller. Movement just feels so clunky. Can you play with keyboard at high level?
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>>169968383
what are you finding clunky? you can tweak mouse sensitivity which may help
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>>169968285
>FHTR SCORE
>5,316
>top 5%
what is this bullshit stat?
i have a kensei
FHTR SCORE
329
- Top 1%
random numbers or what
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Let's roll which character I'm going to play to rep 3 next.

8 decides.
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>>169968736
Lawman.
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>>169968625
Perhaps it's taking into account all of the ~100 000 players from beta as well
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>>169968736
THE LAW
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>>169968480
Well the mouse is a bit sensitive but can get used to it I think, movement just feels slow and hard to react to other players. Guess it's partly just muscle memory on the controller that's making it feel superior.
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>>169968736

Peacekeeper
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>>169968808
GOD WILLS IT
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>>169968808
THE LAW WON.
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>>169968383

It will feel like that for awhile until you get used to it.

What another anon said is true, try messing with sensitivity. Find a zone for how much you want to move the mouse for each movement.

The space you have available also matters, if you have to reposition your mouse your guard may change.

Personally I use about 1 inch movements to change guard on a 2 foot diagonal mousepad.

OR, you can bind it to buttons. I toyed with having guard be on the movement keys and it worked but wasn't my thing
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>>169968808
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>>169968808
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>>169968861
Holy shit, does everyone in Asia use the same make-up?
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Anybody know how matchmaking works in this game?

I want to try out all the characters but I don't want to end up only fighting rep3+ people who have mastered a character because I spent all my time getting everyone to rep 1
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>male berserker does the scooby doo sound when he falls off the ledge
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I HURT MYSELF TODAY
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>>169968861
Thanks. So you do alright with m+kb then? Have you tried a controller for comparison?
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>warlords complaining about conqs playing defensive
spare me
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>>169968967
I think it takes every level into account because I don't get matched with low level people when I play my non rep characters.
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>One more day of work away from Drinkan, Bonkan as Conq, and Law Bringan

Should I put some rubber bands on my controller for the time being? I don't want to be banned.
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BRINGIN' THE LAW

BRINGIN' THE LAW
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>>169969021
>anybody complaining about anyone else playing defensive
This is defence: the game, for fuck's sake.
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>>169968861
>>169969003
Also, do you hold down a button for guard mode or use lock on?
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>no 3v3 mode
>no 5v5 mode
>no 6v6 mode
>no 16v16 mode
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>get rep 7 with Berserker
>try out warden
>its like playing the witcher

While yes, he could've parried/blocked, still. That top light, when it's actually used in the intended way, does so much damage for free. That's the sort of thing that Berserker could use, like, a counter-hit that actually uses the axes like they're supposed to be used, and hook into weapons/shields and pull them away while slashing at them. Otherwise it makes no sense for them to even bring 2 weapons into the fight.

It's too bad people keep quitting before even loading in, because they think I'm gonna take them to vortex city where the grass is green and the combos are shitty.
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>go up against a valk
>jump overhead
>side stab
>leg sweep
>overhead heavy
>if I try to play defensively I get shield bashed into legsweep into heavy
How to not die against valk.
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>>169969130
>using top attacks against warden at all
It's like they want to be ded.
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what did i do to piss him off?
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>>169969136
feint, parry, gb, wall throws, dash attacks
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Can we just take the kangz' stronghold, they don't deserve that tower.
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>>169969219
he is angry because he choked hard
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>>169969136
When you see the leg sweep just backdash. It's hard to react for the first few times but then you get used to it.
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>>169969246

REMOVE PAGAN

REMOVE WEEB
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>Fighting someone 1v1 in elimination
>Fucking them up
>Nearly kill them when suddenly they get revenge and two shot me
Revenge gained by injury should not be a fucking armor stat, it literally rewards you for not blocking
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>>169968808
never forgetti
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>>169969282
Isn't it guaranteed to connect in case you get light poked after the patch? At least that's what some people claim.
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>>169968998
>Sheep that jumped ship joined kanga
>Caused their overall performance to suffer

Sweden's fate was decided long ago
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>>169969282
After getting light poked I can't seemto dodge it, so it's aguranteed heavy.
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>People are pushing really hard for 1v1 eSports

Another game I like. Ruined.
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>>169969345
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remember to kill a pk day to keep the cancer away
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>>169969403
As it stands the ONLY modes in this game that work on a competitive level are duels and elimination.

The latter will need a lot of touching up, but it's much better than brawl, skirmish and dominion.
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>>169969403
>the game has 1v1 mode and is heavily focused around separate 1v1s even in group modes
>WOW! STOP PUSHING FOR BALANCE! MUH FUN!
It's not fucking FUN to play when some heroes have objective advantages over other heroes.
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Valk is such broken horseshit now. There's fucking nothing you can do to get out of her sweep.
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Guys, how do I live as a loser?

I tried my best but still lost every match.

Shoved whenever I could, feinted constantly, flipped when I remembered to, did everything optimal when my thumb didn't slip, took spacing into account, tried to bait dodges out for GBs, abused quick lights, took environment and wall bounces into account (apparently impale riposte is not guaranteed and LB HAS to throw forward to get anything off wallbounce), blocked as best as I could (god forbid I try to parry with how rough my game runs and LB's stance change speed), played as reactionary as possible and I still lost every time.

Should I try again on a day off? I'm tired, that's a good excuse.
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>>169969487
>elim
>buffs
>competitive

just because you like shit game modes doesnt make them "competitive"
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>>169969487
Elimination is the single worst game mode in the entire game. The fact that you're putting it on the same level as Duels means you don't have a clue.
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god damn guard breaks are literally my fucking bane
at least i fucked an almost 4th rep roach
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What gear stats do I get on THE LAW?
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>>169969087
>>169969003

I use toggle for lock on. Went that way with controller as well.

I actually started with m+kb, then went to controller, then back to mouse. I got good/quick enough to use it for gb counter without having to rebind, but it is still quicker on keyboard.

Some other things are just much much easier on keyboard than the controller. Nobushi hidden stance on controller likes to be tempermental, and doing things with characters who can go into full defense are sometimes a bit more challenging.

On kb I just hold a button for that and don't have to worry about a twitch on the stick taking me out of it

Really it was when I started learning nobushi I ditched the controller. But your mileage may vary, and rebinding is a thing to make some things easier.
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>>169969484
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>2 players are AFK'ing in dominion
>the bot is called RubberBand

Pottery
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>>169969487
I don't care about those modes. It's more that the community is going to make the devs focus a game differently.

>>169969493
It's more the fact they're going to shift focus to balancing the game around 1v1 rather than 4v4. Duel shitters keep complaining LB and Raider suck when they're fucking broken in 4v4.
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>>169969484
Damn, that damage on the top light counter.
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>>169969172

Sadly, you're sort of forced to use it as a berserker. Although, he did it a bit recklessly since he had seen I countered his tops a few times before.
I don't blame him though. Most people tend to just throw lights for the sole purpose of getting in to shoulder bash. I barely even use the shoulder bash, honestly, just to give people a little bit of hope that there are non-vortex spamming Wardens out there. Even if I don't main the guy, I feel sorry for them. Just yesterday I had 18 people leave in the loading screen alone, because they saw I was playing Warden. I feel sorry for the Warden mains that have to deal with this all day long.
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>>169969484
Peacekeeper is one of Nobushi's hardest matchups (besides that fat fuck that everyone hates fighting) but jesus christ does it feel good when you just read them like a book and parry their lights and take them down.

>>169969545
You can side-step it or backstep away.

Unless you mean when you are out of stamina, in which case yeah she just chains that on you and takes away like 60%+ of your health with nothing you can do about it.
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>>169969547
stop playing for a while, day or two
then analyse your mistakes, and focus on fundamental things like blocking parrying cgb

how much fps do you have?
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>>169969547

play conq you shitter
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>>169969307
>Round 1 was just there to wake up the sleeping beast within the nights
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>>169969592
>toggle for lock on
Wait, is that an in-game option?
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>>169969549
>>169969556
This game has an odd playerbase full of people who q up for 4's -get shit on - and then complain that nobody will fight them "1v1"

Honestly if a player has never gotten into a premade vs premade 4's game then they are missing out on the best part of this game. With both teams having full 108 it's even better. Not only to you have to be a better duelist, you have to target switch, disable, stall, manage revenge, position and spike better. You have to know what move combos with other heroes so you don't break their combos, or team stagger. It's actually fairly deep once you get into it.

The fact you hate it so much makes me believe you're a FGC reject.
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>tfw tried shrekgoku for the first time
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>>169969615
>Duel shitters keep complaining LB and Raider suck when they're fucking broken in 4v4.
Alright, I'll bite. HOW exactly are they broken in 4v4s? What do they add to the team that other heroes cannot?
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>>169969403

Why? Why would that change a single thing for you? Of course they're pushing for eSports, because there's a ridiculous amount of money in that. R6S, while very successful, is not very big as an e-sport because it's very slow and methodical for being a shooter. So they're trying to get the fighting game audience, even if I would be very hard-pressed to call For Honor a fighting game.
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>>169969726
all of those things also happen in dom but it doesn't have buffs

your entire argument didn't even mention the one thing i said
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>>169969549
>>169969556
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>>169969657
Got every CGB and most blocks.

Raiders and Kensei had good feints and I don't know how you'd parry valk lights consistently (maybe when it's not 3 am).

Benchmarks give 60-70 on medium and lower, but things still feel choppy even on low -- can't tell if that's the LB or my head or what.
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i didn't know they actually existed
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>>169969784
Raiders stuns, on-demand unblockable, and scoop are pretty great in 2v2 and 4v4. He's still not the best but he becomes a lot better Lawbringers shove is amazing and his scoop his a death-sentence, like Shugoki's hug but easier to land and safer to try.

This is why 2v2 is really fun though, a lot more of the cast becomes viable and desired than 1v1.
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>prestige 4 Nobushi with ilvl 108
>for the entire match she does nothing but the sprinting attack
It's like I'm PvPing in DS3 against a katanafag. Except in FH I have a 100% parry chance against it.
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>>169969484

>implying i'm gonna get close to that nerd
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I've got Champion status but never brought any or received any notification of having any, how is this possible?

Only two days and twenty two hours left though.
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>top player on the website tracker just farms nerds in dominion all day with 108 gear level
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>>169969984
Same thing. Was it like a free patch giveaway or something?
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>>169969784
Raider has access to the best disable in the game. His grab attack lets him turn a fight in your team's favor by shutting down the highest level there. If you max out throw distance you carry them VERY far to the point where they won't have enough time to get back. On top of that bear trap can be placed at ladders allowing you to disable enemies for some points and battlecry guarantees a capture on B.

As for LB, I'm not sure why /fhg/ gets so triggered over this - he is a broken support with max sprint speed and revive speed. He negates any stamina regeneration gear, can revive people without interruption and doubles their health and on top of that he gets stacking damage reduction for each parry he lands.
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>>169968808
>>169968736 here,

Looks like Divine Will has chosen my path.

Ad Mortem, Inimicus. Non superstes!
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>>169969705
It is, for controller and keyboard. I kind of like holding it though, seems quicker to respond when you need to unlock and roll away. Again, probably just something to get use to.
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>>169969984
>>169970013
I think it might be from last weekends server downtime
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How to fix the ganking in 4 vs 4 settings.

Create a tag mode in an arena setting. Matches are 1 vs 1 but you have team mates on the side at standby so it's still 4 vs 4 but with 1 vs 1 action. You can only tag in and out once per duel, first team to 4 kills wins.

I'm surprised this hasn't been done yet, plenty of other games have done this mode.
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>>169969973
>>not tomahawk missle
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>>169969973
>gear enabled modes
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>slow as a shugo
>bad parry followups
>average damage
>even first-timers know a gb is coming after the shove

Is there any reason to play the Law?
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>>169969864
put everything on low 60-70 is good though
take a break
youll get the hang of parrying, just dont overstress yourself and rest properly
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>>169970175
>she still doesn't have 108 gear
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>>169969587
pls
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>>169970175
>Playing a "DON'T GANK ME" mode
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>>169970224
Just have to upgrade all purps to max gear to 108?
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>>169970183
Not playing the LAW is a violation of the LAW.
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Needs more Femzerker
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>>169970175

I don't mind them. I've top-scored against people with GR108 as sub-GR10, because outside of revenge and debuff resistance in it's current buggy state doesn't make too much of a difference. But I don't judge if you feel badly about them. I can understand why. I'm just a very patient person.
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So I've level up my kensei and nobushi to r3 and geared them out. I lose desire to play them tho after hitting r3 since really nothing to grind for I guess.

So the q is, what should I level up over the weekend???
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>>169970242
+ Throw Distance, - Revenge Mode Attack
+ Revenge Gain by Defense, - Revenge Mode Defense
+ Defense, - Stamina Cost Reduction
+ Revive Speed, - Block Damage Resistance
+ Sprint Speed, - Execution Health Regen
+ Exhaustion Recovery, - Revenge Mode Duration

SOURCE: I play with three 108 friends in dominion and we have 90% winrate
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HELP IM GETTING BORED WHAT DO I DO???
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>>169970145
BECAUSE THAT'S GAY AS FUCK
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>>169970382
You take a break, dip.
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>>169970347
>+ Throw Distance, - Revenge Mode Attack
>+ Revenge Gain by Defense, - Revenge Mode Defense
>+ Exhaustion Recovery, - Revenge Mode Duration
This is bait.
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>>169970205
Thanks anon, will do.

I'd just been looking forward to the game for months and am disconcerted to see my winrate below 50% and that the game doesn't seem to run as perfectly for me as it did in beta (or I'm going fucking insane and forgetting shit). It feels like winning is everything in these kinds of games, though I seem to have made some nice friends in duels.
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>>169970183
do you like thinking you're a victim?
do you like turtling all match long?
do you like seeing your opponents bored to tears?
do you enjoy being annoying in general? then the lawbringer is the character for you

basically the same reason you want to play conq
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>>169970436
Throw Distance does increase the distance at which you impale someone actually.
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>>169970183
Become the Bombringer
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>>169970427
I already did for like 2 days, and i tried playing another character, but why would i when i have to farm a single character to 108 like some autist my guy...
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>>169970224
but i do it's still shit
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>>169970439
there are also bugs and memory leaks
so it will run better i bet after the fixes
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Would it be possible to make LAW look like Judge Dredd?
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>swedish people

Why do they talk so fucking much? Every game there's a swedish flag, you're bound to have salty swedes everywhere.
Insert cuck joke here.
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>>169970486
Even if it does, the increase is negligible, because impale has already decent range and tracking.
Negative revenge mode defense actually increases the damage you take in revenge mode.
And exhaustion recovery speed has been tested to have virtually no negative effects at minimum.
Unfortunately all the revenge relevant stats on gear really are the only ones that make any significant difference.
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>>169970590
I guess you can use le angry face with some black-red color scheme.
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>>169970242
Revive Speed + Sprint Speed + Revenge Stats
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>>169970620
Tell Mohammed to pipe down. That usually gets their goat.
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>he doesnt use checkerboard
Explain yourself
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Guys, is the patch out for consoles yet? I need that Beserker block fix before I keep playing.
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>>169970521
fuck that shit, if you're tired of farming, stop doing it, play modes without stats, 1 vs1 or 2 vs 2
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>>169970814
>using any helm decoration on Warden ever
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>>169970814
I use a combination of the stripes and just the two solid color pattern with the red white n blue color.

All I need now is the eagle ornaments
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Which graphic settings determine how your emblem looks on your armor? I see some here that look great, yet when I put my emblem on my armor it's hardly visible, looks see through.
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>>169970965
>he doesnt recognize the Faraam helm
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>>169970814
>he plays warden
Explain yourself
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>>169970937

I dont know why i cant into other character, i "main" PK, but my fundamentals suck since i just do random shit as PK and still win... I got a feeling she is not the best character to start playing the game as desu senpai...
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>>169970995
Not just warden homo
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>>169971046
did I told you to stop playing your main? NO I DIDN'T now go and have fun, or you're doing it wrong
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>>169970814
I like cosplay.
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>>169970992
Wrong game, numbnuts.
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>>169970486
But does throw distance effect the amount that you knock someone back with conq running charge?
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>conq obviously tries to bash you off
>they get thrown off instead
>they comment something like "wow honor??" or "ok noob"
>as if their plan wasn't fucking obvious, and they're now the innocent party in all of this

Same thing with Warlords who suddenly get so confused that you don't want to fight them anywhere remotely close to a ledge or a hazard, especially that bridge on the Jungle map or whatever it's called.
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>>169971253
>top right corner
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>>169971253
People who don't expect you to do GB in a situation like this are fucking idiots.

But then again that particular part of that map is retarded, and you can't even fight WITH MUH HONOR there, as there are ledges everywhere.
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>>169971074
I-I guess i just need to git good and have fun while doing so, so who do i play my guy??
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>>169971072
You have redeemed yourself, good.

I shall let you live.
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>>169971253
How do you GB after a dodge? I thought you get the shoulder charge instead.
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>>169971401
Release the lock button.
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>>169971253
>tfw you know a shugoki/warlord/conq/law/raider is going for the push and you try to nibly sidestep them like you've done a million times
>tracking decides to work this time and they track through the dodge sending you off the cliff even though you knew their plan the whole time
>predict their plan and try to outsmart them but fail due to things beyond your control
Is there a worse feel than outsmarting someone and losing anyway
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>>169971371
try playing 1 vs 1
if you fail, try playing 1 vs 1 AI mode
if you fail, try training against lvl 1 bot, then increase difficulty from there, lvl 3 bot is better than most players tough
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>>169971401
Wait for your dodge recovery to finish and you can GB like normal.
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>>169970345
Either Lawbringer or Shugoki
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>>169971459
Thx but is playing PK a good character to start as, since i feel like Warden/Kensei will give me a better understanding of "fundamentals"?
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>>169971476
Wouldn't that give your opponent enough time to recover as well and tech your GB?
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>>169971552
find the character that fits your playstile, mine was orochi
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are servers down for someone else?
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>trying to afk farm
>but the shitty servers akbar the lobby everytime someone leaves
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>>169971552
also the fundamental is to be good at parying, start with the lvl 1 bot and parry until it becomes something natural
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>>169971572
>>169971632

Aight thanks my guy!
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>>169971552
>is playing PK a good character to start as

Not really, she'll teach you a bunch of bad habits because of how safe she is to play currently.
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>>169971614
isn't better to afk farm on AI matches without matchmaking?
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>>169970879
Anyone know?
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>>169971614
Serves you right for afk farming.
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>pick conq
they get salty over shieldbash
>pick warden
salt over shoulderbash
>pick pk
fuck pk spam
>pick berzerker
lol spammer!
>nobushi
range shitter


It goes on and on, you just cant win against this salt.
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lmao wtf
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>>169972260
You don't generate much salt if you're LB.
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>>169971632
conq7 here, i don't think i've parried once so far (except unblockables)
but i've also not fallen for a single feint ever
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>>169972304

Judging by what they said on stream, where they said that "on friday we'll have an event." odds are, this is what they meant.
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>>169970287
yes, upgrade all item slots with purple item level 18
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>>169972363
want to fucking bet?

>ledge killing everyone
>constant long arm flips
>law vortex

everyone hates me
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>>169972304
D E U S V U L T
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>>169971848
There's a difference between matchmaking on and off AFK farming. When matchmaking is off, the game will not automatically count down the start the next match. The player has to manually select.

AFK farmers are such lazy nigger fucktoys that they won't even start their next match, instead opting to plague the AI game mode to abuse the automatic round start system in the Matchmaking: On queue.
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>>169972260
>pick beserker
>lol spammer

I get this shit all the time, and what the fuck do they want from me? I throw in plenty of feints and mixups, and sometimes even a zone attack after a heavy feint. If I just repeatedly do lights, I make sure to throw tops also, and not just side to sides, and ffs if you deflect with him,
>LOL BROKEN NO SKILL CLASS
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>>169972425
but I can make an autohotkey script for clicking the hero and mashing space a few times to start the round, what's the most efficient mode to farm money afk without matchmaking?
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>>169971848
You get more exp and steel in regular matches. But I guess I should just stick to bots if it will stop the lobbies from crashing

>>169971848
fuk u
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>>169970647
>exhaustion recovery is useless
can someone back this up??
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>>169972363
>>169972483
everyone gets so salty over every other class

god damn

I blame p2p
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post extremely informative matchup guides
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>>169972260

Look, the game's an unbalanced mess right now so fuck the salt and play what you want.

Either you'll be fucked and bitch (like I find myself getting angry) because you're playing something you're not happy with just to avoid being 'the cancer', or you'll suck it up and just play what's fun for you.

This goes for any fighting game. Play what you find fun and git gud at it. People are always going to complain about something. It's harder advice to follow because yeah, some of us want to succeed using what we perceive to be our own hard-learned skill without relying on crutches or top tiers.

But sometimes that may mean playing what you don't want. So fuck it; at the end of the day, it's your time being spent. Don't waste it.
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>>169972494
Dom gives you 20steel and 150 exp. Pretty trash, but your lobbies won't explode on you
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>>169972752
I don't think any lobby crashes when you're playing with matchmaking off, does it?
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>>169972571
+6% recovery yime needed if at minimum.
-44% recovery needed if at maximum
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I have no idea how I'm able to post here when I did nothing to get past my huge lockdown, but fuck it. Just thought I'd let you guys know I'm going to tone it down on here. I like talking with you guys and pissing off mods isn't going to help that.

Anyhow, how many unique pieces of Epic gear does Peacekeeper have? I can only ever seem to find her unique shortsword and dagger. I haven't seen anything else. Is that all it is for every character, just their weapons?
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>No femzerker porn
>No valk porn

fucking dropped
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>>169972867
i've been minimizing debuff resist this whole time, how much of a difference will it be if i get debuff resist to like 80% of max?
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>>169972882
Only weapons, 1 unique for every part, 3 total.
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>>169972810
No they don't.

And if you're going to bot, alone or as a parasite for others, just be prepared to have ubi fuck your ass eventually.
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>>169972946
Damn, I was hoping for some unique hats or something. Oh well I like my current one, makes PK look like she's giggling.
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>>169972304
>Kangz losing after traitors joined them
>Round 1 was just a test to show us the sheep
>Majority of Kangz are leddit
>A/pol/lyon was right again
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>>169972882
BAN EVASION?

6 MONTHS IN THE CUBE, SCUM
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Raider's "heheheh" Axe is the ONLY passable looking high level weapon.
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>>169972704
>raider
>good again PK
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>>169972990
That's the thing I literally haven't intentionally ban evaded. I posted on the Overwatch general forgetting I was banned and the post went through, so fuck knows what happened. Please don't get mad at me, like I said I'm toning it down.

>>169972704
How on Earth is PK a bad matchup against Raider?
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>>169965494
Do it.
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hi i didn't buy this game after the open beta because of the turtling meta

have they fixed the turtling meta

have they made GBs worth using unconfirmed

have they buffed every character to warden's levels

i expect the answer is no to everything but im an optimist
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>>169973027
>>169973057
it's a professional guide anons
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Is there a consensus on class ratings?

New to the general so I don't know, but I'm getting better at Raider and I'm really starting to feel outclassed by most other characters. If they fuck up and don't know how to parry I win easily but a good player is really difficult for me to stand up against.
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>>169973103
nothing changed
I was thinking this the other day, If I only deffend I only expose myself to a GB which I can counter

if I attack I expose myself to a parry, which can't do anything against it
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>>169972982
>Kangz are now getting fucked by the shitheads who ditched weebs after ditching Knights
>They've already sacrificed season rewards and will inevitably join whoever wins round 2
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>>169972704

I'm not sure if I actually ever lost against a Noobushi with my Raider.
Fuck, how pro AM I?
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what do if orochi uses GB and spams light attacks. i play warden and kensei mostly
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>>169973168
The general consensus is that Raider is the WORST character in the game. Even lower than Lawbringer. His only combat options are running tackle and overhead dash light into another light while the opponent is dazed. His unblockable zone is trash past the gutter levels.
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>>169973123
>Zerker and LB in B tier for 1v1s
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>>169973123
>Tfw raider main
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>>169973183
well shit

i mean eventually the general playerbase has to get good enough to realize the staggering issues the game has at higher skill levels... right??

i like everything about this game except the high level gameplay and if they could just fix it i'd buy like 3 copies
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>>169973168
Hang in there breh, Ubi acknowledged that he needs a buff. Going by what Ubi means by buffing, that means with the next patch he will deal 100 damage per swing and gets guaranteed top heavies off GBs
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>>169973123
>Nobushi
>S tier duelist

Why? Because people don't know how to close the gap, or it's harder to punish after a parry?
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thoughts?
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Post only the freshest goldbringers (gold only)
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>>169973123
>Conqueror
>not good in 1v1s

Yep, the guy that wrote this is absolutely retarded.
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Post muscle bitches
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>>169973123

>Orochi in S tier
>Warlord is A tier
>Warlord not being SSS+ tier

Whoever made that tier list is a fucking idiot.
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>>169973359
I think some people are pussies and will demonize just about anything because it's easier than calming their tits down to see how foolish they're acting.
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>>169973057
>Please don't get mad at me

honestly that was so cute im not anymore

see you around buddy
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>>169973304
I have felt your struggles, anon.
We must rise up as rightful Kangz and reclaim our throne at the top of the tier lists.
All who oppose us shall feel the wrath of our might.
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>>169973359
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Has anyone managed to make the Samurai Jack flag-sigil-thing yet?
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>>169973304
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>>169973238
>>169973345
Guess i'll stick with him for the time being and hope for a buff soon, thanks for the info m8s

my only real worry was breaking into the upper tiers of matchmaking and losing to all the good players because of a weak class
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>>169971569
Probably, I'm not too sure. But,

>expecting a conq to be able to react to their failed shield bash that they for sure thought would connect

Conqs think with their shields, not their heads
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>>169973439
D-don't tease me.

>>169973345
Ubiosft have said they're gonna buff him? Damn, what have I missed in the few days I was gone? Any planned changes for Lawbringer?
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>>169973403
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>>169973584
>Ubiosft have said they're gonna buff him? Damn, what have I missed in the few days I was gone? Any planned changes for Lawbringer?
They said in the dev stream that Raider and Lawman are a bit too weak at the moment.
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Are 1v1 tournaments still a warlord headbutt, shugoki run strat, conq cheese shitfest?
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>>169973597
>FOTM
>Edgy
Oh boi
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Which fat man should i main now? Shugoki or kensei
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>>169973359
Pretty comfy
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>>169972882
>Lewdkeeper is back
and now we wait for the writefags to come back and bestow their fapfics
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>>169973359
What even is alt-right and how is it connected to the crusades.
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>>169973447
>>169973481
She's just so fun but if I go against anyone who have half a brain he just crumble.
Have to feint like a motherfucker and poke them to death with lights.
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>>169973776
alt-right is a hipster movement among conservative kids who think nazi jokes are funny
>>
So how do you play Nobushi? I feel like I can't attack because it's so telegraphed, and trying to keep range is hard against most people.
>>
Should every move have a counter?
Should two really good players be able to parry/dodge/block each other until one makes a mistake with every hero combination?
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>>169973742
I'm gonna have to keep my unbridled faggotry to the Knight Discord if I want to post here.
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>>169968197
Psssshhhhhh...

Nah, that's just the level tracker. Level and prestige says nothing about skills.
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>FromSoft releases DkS3 DLC1,gets decent attention
>For Honor comes out, bashing FromSoft into the abyss relevance wise
>Game is already dying though
>It will be dead by the end of march, which is when DkS3 DLC2 comes out
>FromSoft back on top again, also announcing their new game
Hah... well played...
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>playing nobushi
>block orochi top light
>switch guard to right before he even starts zone attack
>I can't switch guard fast enough even if I start it before he starts zone
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>>169973186
If you switch during round 1 you only miss out on round 1 rewards
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>>169974054
Hah... well meme'd...

Like the PvP community in Das For Honor will always have a playerbase.
>>
is the raider side heavy to top stun a bug?
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>>169974169
No it's a move in the movelist.
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>>169974054
I really hope that the DLC does take back all of the soulsfags so they can stop crying about queer 'honor' rules.
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>>169974164
At least Souls players can actually play their game without getting disconnected
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are superior block counters worth it?
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>>169970992
Players can't access the Faraam helm though, it's secret forbidden cosmetics like Daubeny's wings or Holden's arms.
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>>169974231
True. But I also enjoy the lag in DaS PvP!
>>
>>169973776
>>169973860
the alt-right doesn't exist, it's literally just a boogieman term created by SJWs to label anybody who leans any more center or right or anybody who dared support not-hillary to discredit them without actually having to form an argument, neo-nazis have been around ever since the end of WWII and they're always just far-right,
>>
>>169973359
Christianity is associated with the Right and an easy punching bag for the media since Judaism and Islam are sacred cows they dare not touch.
>>
who's the better viking waifu? femzerker or valk?
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>>169974054
>ds3 dlc2 come out
>from on top again for a good week before it goes back to irrelevance
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>>169974054
For Honor and DaS are going for completely different audiences bub.

The only reason DaSfags flocked to it is because they were absolutely sick of the god awful souls PvP, and it is still trash and always will be trash. Even if the game announced is Bloodborne 2 its still going to have garbage PvP and shit covenants because those are the two things Fromsoft is never going to get right in any game.
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>>169973728
why is your bed covered in bloodstains anon
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>>169974391
fluids from the valk facesitting.
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>>169973359
Autistic communists trying to victimize themselves in an attempt to make themselves feel morally obligated and superior in ruining the fun of anyone they disagree with.

Also, clickbait article from a sandy cunt with a worthless degree at a dead-end job.
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>>169974323
Wait what, how did he not give you a free heavy because of low stamina?
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>>169974235

Not sure about Valk over a parry, but Warden's overhead is insane. Hits harder than the heavy you'd get off the parry, so definitely better to go for.
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>>169974442
Assassins are bugged when exhausted.
Spam guard directions when thrown and you won't fall down.
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>>169974442
Assassins can avoid knockdowns via a glitch related to their unique guard mechanics.
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>>169974235
Warden's Crushing Counterstrike is worth it if you're sure it's an actual attack and not a feint into some fuckery.
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>>169973712
You're easily impressed
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why is conq so good in 1v1s?

I never play or play against him
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>>169974546
>>169974547
Okay, I'm mad. I'm really mad.
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>>169970814
but I do
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>>169974587
He is the turtle master and it is damn annoying.
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>>169971097
very good
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>>169974646
>turtle master
>anything but warlord

Conqs may be stupid, but they have nothing on Warlord.
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>>169974442
>>169974546
>>169974547

has there been any confirmation on if they can use said behavior to avoid splatting on walls as well? i had a hammerthrow into a wall earlier tonight that was HIGHLY SUSPECT when it didn't splat him.
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>>169974587
Because he has perfect blocking with near instant stance swapping meaning you have two options,

1. Use unblockables
2. Wait for him to use his near-instant recovery retard charge and hope to god it whiffs the 40% of the time it doesn't want to magnet to your cock so femconq can fuck you into the dirt like the maggot you are
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>>169974317
this
>>
How do I get in and slam Nobushi's boipussy? The range on parries is too long.
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>>169974804

Sidestep her attacks. Play a class that has a dashing grab.
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>>169974804
depends on who you are playing.

walking slowly at her while guarding is pretty easy.

side dodges will dodge pretty much anything she can throw your way, if you have a side-dodge attack it's really easy to get hits on her the second she uses anything you can just side-dodge attack and it's guarenteed to hit.
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>>169974683
They are both unenjoyable to fight against. I prefer fighting a light spamming PK over a passive fuck who hides behind his shield for several minutes.
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>>169974804
I try to play patient and step around a bunch out at range. See if I can get them to try a sideslash and parry it so I can get a safe dash in.
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>>169974804
wat class?
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>>169974869
>sidestep her attacks
>doesn't put me any closer
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>>169974914
Yes it does.
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>>169974914

While she's recovering you can hit her. Or you can gain ground.
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just parry it lol
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>>169975103
PEACEKEEPER PLAYERS WILL DEFEND THIS
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>>169967521
What is MMR decided by? Win rate? Prestige level? Both?
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th faction war system is super primitive but honestly it will be pretty fun to watch it when season ends and exclusive cometics are on the line
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>>169975103
Is this lag? or can PKs actually attack that fast
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>>169975207
There should have been special tiles with unique maps.
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>>169975207
>exclusive cometics
>in the end everyone just get 3-2-1 chests
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Holy shit guys, what's with the massive Samurai and Knight push?
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>>169975275
THis was for the first round, at the end of the season the Viking players (who will win the whole thing) will get a bunch of exclusive cosmetics.

Hope you like big strong viking bulls!
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>People actually believe that the Faction War is anything but Ubi rolling a dice
>They believe that in game that can't even keep a single match running properly, it would be possible to correctly record every single match outcome and deployed war assets
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>>169975439
>not also using a skull tattoo and skull on a skull on a skull on your crest
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>>169975375
SAVAGES WILL BE EXTERMINATED
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>>169975375
Vikings are chilling because we know we have another week+ before the war is relevant again, which is when we will just destroy both fronts simultaneously. Again. VALHALLA!
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im betting the samurai fucks will attack the southen front like what they did last time
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>>169975439
nothing cosmetic thats in the game right now would make it worth any effort so they better make something better
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>>169975243
it's a bit of lag hiding the animations but her zone and left light are almost too fast to react to for the 4 fastest stance-switchers
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are the servers down for anyone else?
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>>169975846
That's their natural state
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>>169975556
This is bait
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>>169975846
Just keep trying and you will get in.
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>LEGENDARY can't get a heavy off of a GB and on a wall stun he can only get the heavy if he isnt too close
Does Ubi really wonder why this guy is bad?
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>>169975971
i was playing fine on my 2nd account, but it's not joining on my main account.
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>make a passing comment about how they overbuffed Valkyrie and that her combos are too good now
>every single person in the game immediately calls me a scrub
haha nice community we got here
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I have it on good authority that whichever faction wins the first season's war will have their shittiest class buffed.
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>>169976083
Lawbringers need buffs more than anyone else.
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>>169976083
Who gets buffed if the weebs win? All their classes are decent to strong.
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>>169976003
You think Ubisoft knows anything about balance? Look at Siege for a perfect example of where this game is going. Siege has made nothing but negligible changes over the past year and done nothing but throw balance out the window and people say that game has "improved" greatly. Meanwhile, the netcode is still shit, characters like Ash and Jager have gotten buffed multiple times, and they've done nothing but add broken DLC characters to nerf them months later.
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>>169976083
Or the loser faction because the winning faction is evidently good and beloved enough.
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anyone got any tips for a new kensei?
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>>169974423
but crusaders wouldnt sully themselves with used up savage cunts
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>>169976141
A small buff to all of them, since they're by far the most actually balanced faction.
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>>169976083
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>>169976138
Law needs slight buffs and the top characters all need serious nerfs.
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>>169976154
feint_warderns_fuck_bitches.png
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>>169976220
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>>169976154
All you can do is be annoying with feints and you are already doing that, so
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>>169976154
you already feint your UBs so thats good (you can feint without pressing e if you attack with another side heavy).

i find that landing the second strike is easier if you use a light attack

dont forget that almost everything you do builds up combo
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>>169976154
The unblockable into side heavy feint catches most people out.
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>>169976293
It also gives you SA, so it won't be interrupted by a light tap.
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How do you guys generally practice combos and such? Just go and wail on a bot until you can't get it wrong?
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>>169976146
>You think Ubisoft knows anything about balance? Look at Siege for a perfect example of where this game is going. Siege has made nothing but negligible changes over the past year
>putting a 500 hp shield on tachanka
>nerfing BB's 800 hp shield to 2 60 hp shields
>taking away capitaos grenades and nerfing his gun (since he had the highest pickrate)
>Giving IQ grenades,reducing glazs recoil, and increasing his fire rate (since they were two of the worst operators)
>Shields users can now absorb most of a nitrocell as long as they are facing the explosion
>Hibana is added to the game so now killing the thermite isnt an almost guaranteed way to win certain objectives
>negligible
You could just tell me you never fucking play the game
In terms of Ubishit Siege is actually a huge sucess, a year later and it has more people playing it than at launch. For Honor should be aiming to be another Siege
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>fighting 4rep peacekeeper with 108 gear
>my teammate drops in and feeding her revenge and dies
>i try as hard as i can, but she gets revenge on 10% hp
>pk types in chat to me LMAO DUDE YOU JUST NEED TO GIT GUD YOU CAN COUNTER EVERYTHING I DO
Yeah, for sure, i need to block and parry every single light and zone-cancel. I mean, like, i did it to 90% of them, but it doesnt matter when you literally getting killed in 2 hits of those.
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generally i really dont believe in leaving but i think im just gonna have to start fuckin abandoning every single time i see a warden over prestige 2
even when i win its just such a huge waste of time and isnt remotely fun at all
who the fuck has fun literally just vortexing ad nauseum
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>>169976003
Also I see a flash when I carry into wall stun people then hit them with a light, do people get fucking hyper armor if they get hit with his wallstun?
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>>169976246
thanks my kenseibro
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>>169976371
6 frames
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>>169976361
>a year later and it has more people playing it than at launch

seriously?
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>Shugoki keeps insisting on fighting me as PK

For what purpose
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>>169976371
I think PK should be buffed again

They still sometimes lose 1v4, it can't be intended design
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Are the servers down AGAIN?
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>>169976361
>putting a shield on Tachanka
He's still terrible and still has the lowest pickrate.
>nerfing Blackbeard's shield
Yeah after he was broken in Season 2 and still super solid in Season 3
>taking away Cap's grenades and nerfing Para
His pickrate was high because of Pro League, because he was just a better Ash at that point.
>Giving IQ grenades, buffing Glaz's rifle
IQ and Glaz weren't underpicked because they didn't have frags and because their guns weren't good, it was because their abilities are borderline useless.
>shield users now absorb nitro
Yeah, and they're still garbage because they "rebalanced" the body damage.
>Hibana is now added to the game, which means Thermite...
lol no, Thermite and Hibana are interchangable depending on whether an objective has more critical walls or more critical hatches.

Also, the game is a success because they had like 6 free weekends and shoved it down everyone's throat.
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>>169976371
she will get nerfed eventually in the meantime have this
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>>169976560
I got in after 5 tries

Best things is I wanted to play the fucking campaign
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>>169975950
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Can Warlord Players come up with a more creative strategy than spamming headbutt + light?
Would make the game fun for everyone (including them)
Who's idea was it to include free dmg vs heavies?
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>>169976154
impressive stuff
anyone got any more webms of kensai? trying to learn him but im a retard
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>>169976597
thank you
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>>169976683
does playing super defensive count as a more creative strategy?
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>>169976514
It's what one chart said, granted it was during a free weekend IIRC but even barring free weekends it's still populated, and considering that it was a game tons of people said it would be dead in a month its amazing. Is it perfect? Of fucking course not it's a ubisoft game, but it is definitely a diamond in the rough. I believe For honor is the same, it has its problems right now but if Ubisoft supports it a little decently then it will be a prosperous game. They had the chance to learn from Siege's mistakes, now they need to use it to grow.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVgSnCATLfI

Is this sufficiently showing for a bug report? Is there anything I should fix?
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>>169976560
It wouldn't be a ubisoft game otherwise.
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>tfw I don't like my emblem
>tfw it violates the rule of tincture
>tfw it's still better than 90% of the crap I see
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>>169976825
The rule of what now?
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anyone else encounter this bug?
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does anyone know if the conqueror has any other helmet?
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>>169976586
>Yeah, and they're still garbage because they "rebalanced" the body damage.
Yeah man 29% pick rate is "garbage"
Also like how you are whining about Ash when she is tied for 3rd highest pickrate
>nerfing Blackbeard's shield
>Yeah after he was broken in Season 2 and still super solid in Season 3
Yeah that's still not fucking "negligible" though it completely changes how he has to play, instead of being fucking invincible while window peeking he can only save himself from a couple shots now
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>>169976887
No metal on metal (silver/white and gold/yellow), no color on color (red, blue, green, black)
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>>169976959
I am fucking glad this was blurred out because that was filthy as fuck
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>>169976887
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>>169976779
>Next time on LAWBRINGER
>Can the buddy cop duo survive a fall into a bottomless pit?
>Find out on the next episode of LAWBRINGER.
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>>169976959
>bug
It's Warden's vortex-vision.
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>>169976996
There's another bucket helm with a cheese grater visor
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>>169977070
don't you mean the default one?
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Ubisoft really needs to look into skill brackets. I feel dirty and I keep getting matches like this.
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>>169977109
you should feel dirty for playing a peacekeeper you cancerous no skill fuck

1v1 me you cunt
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>>169977096
No, the default one has a normal greathelm visor. The cheese grater holes visor is a higher rarity version of it.

The male level 3 conq bit wears it.
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>>169977109
Stop playing a PK.
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>>169977005
>>169977027
What a dumb rule
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>>169977109
2v2 mm is fucking retardedlly broken
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>>169977109
>throwing him away before the third stab because he saw a streamer doing it

the combo only works if you throw them into a wall you dumbass
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>>169977179
It keeps your CoA from blending into a blurry mess at a distance, among other practical benefits at the time.
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>>169977159
>>169977171
Peacekeeper is adorable so never.

>>169977213
I always throw away out of habit, I don't watch faggot streamers. I may a cock sucking faggot but I'm not that gay.
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>>169977272
is it possible to slow walk with kb+m or do you use a controller?
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>>169977272
>PK
No you're pretty gay
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>>169977308
I don't watch streamers so on the gay scale I'm not at the maximum.

>>169977307
I use a controller.
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>>169977307
hold X
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>>169977272
1v1 me right fucking now
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>>169977364
Why exactly?
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>>169977027
Is this okay?
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>>169977392
What do you think?
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>>169977392
>Gold on blue with gold frame
Perfectly fine.
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>>169977391
so i can post webms proving you to be a peaceshitter
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>>169977483
Fuck you, we're actually loyalist. You're the heretics.
>>169977486
Thanks, m90.
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>>169977483
>thousand sons
>heretics
someone hasn't done their homework
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>>169977027
what about this
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>>169976996
>>169977096
>>169977070
>>169977169
by far the best helmet
took me to rep7 and ~50k steel to get one
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>>169977628
>tfw got that cheese grater bucket and the default looking bucket helmet from my first 2 boxes
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>Peacekeeper jump attack and warlord headbutt home in their target for up to 45 fucking °
>I have to perfectly center mass hit an enemy to grab him as Raider, and even then it can still fucking miss
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>>169977494
Well okay dude if you want to

Uplay: Lewdkeeper
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>>169977625
>gold rivets on gold plating
>metal on metal
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>>169977667
>Raider Run grab

You have no idea how infuriating that thing is to try and land.

Even when your opponent is running straight AT you, you can still slip and slide right past them and get hit in the back with a combo.
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>>169967521
>ask /fhg/ which assassin to play
>they say Berserker
>try it out
>she's fun as fuck
>deletes 80% of an enemy's HP off of one out of stamina GB
>extremely rewarding feint and bait play

Thanks for the advise, after 10 prestige level across other characters I finally found my favourite one.
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>>169977663
yeah but now i feel like i've earned it, while you don't get to cry tears of joy
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>>169977793
Well if it makes you feel better, I didn't get any unique cosmetics.
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Why do Wardens have a counter attack ability and the conquer doesn't, what in the fucking world.
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>>169972882
This reminds me of that picture where the crazy prostitute becomes a better person over time while talking to the viewer
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>>169977902
Can we take their stronghold?
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>>169977942
from what I've heard you have to capture all the territories bordering their stronghold first
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>>169977628
oh yeah i have that one, it's the second helmet
i see it used often but i don't get the appeal :^/
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>PK is for lewds
protect our PKs from fat weeb shitters
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What is with all these fucking berserkers out of sudden
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I'm participating in a small local tournament tomorrow.

Should I use Warden, PK, Warlord or Conqueror? I picked those 4 out early because I'm a tier whore and got good with all of them.
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>>169978121
bug got fixed
i for one want to play a fast character whos not cancer
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-03-for-honor-ubisoft-answers-the-big-questions

Talks about balance and making game less defensive
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>>169978025
it's not rape if it's PK tho
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Could a Lawbringer tell me what are his usual combos ?
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>>169978025
>Two Western Women Fight Off a Large Asian Male During Rape Attempt

Why are obese people so disgusting?
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>>169978140
Warlord should give you the best results; if people are shoddy PK will shit on them.

Sure wish I could LAUNCH THE FUCKING GAME
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>>169978025
Conq gains renown:
>by assisting or saving Heroes
You saved PK here, but nothing shows in the log.
What the hell is a save then?
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>>169978176
>The intention was to make a fighting game
"fh is not a fighting game" tards btfo
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Are stronghold events normally at a certain time? I haven't seen one yet.
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>>169978257
Because being fat is a sin.
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>>169978254
Top light poke.
Occasional GB attempt to test how well opponent can actually tech.
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>dash should cost a smal amount of stamina (less than light attack), but the cost increases with every consecutive dash
>can no longer dash while exhausted
What do you think?
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>>169978280
I think it's manually controlled by the devs.
In Warrior's Den stream on 28th Feb they said
>we will push the event order by the end of the week
youtu.be/ywiqxjE9rQI?t=1h15m39s
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>>169978140
PK is for people who want an unfair fight and are willing to play warlord roulette

Warlord for if you want to spank PKs
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>>169978268
a revive i think
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>>169978417
The fact that being out of stamina doesn't hurt your defensive capabilities is fucking ridiculous. The only way to put pressure on someone that's out of stamina is to throw an unblockable at them, but that's still dodgeable.
At the very least they could disable dashing while exhausted.
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Do you have to buy an ornament to remove valkyries horns?
Tfw viking bots dont have horns
Also does the lawbringer have any greathelms?
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>>169978176
This makes me happy. Good news, good news!
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please KEK us
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Is the law worth investing time into? he looks pretty fun.

t faggot assassin player
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>>169978440
warlord is literally warden/valk-tier levels of broken
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>>169978796
>Also does the lawbringer have any greathelms?
I fucking wish but I think they didnt add any because then 3 knight classes would have greathelm permutations for their customization
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>>169978984
Not before he gets a fix. Don't let any lawposters tell you otherwise.
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>>169978795
yeah thats what i think as well. also i hate pk dashing across the map in two seconds so i think that should be hindered as well
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>>169979015
at least valk has to press some buttons in correct order to be useful

warden/warlard/pk are effortless
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>>169978960
How is that show? Never watched it. It is badass or is it another LGBT black vikings cuckfest?
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>>169979130
It's more of the latter.

Twisting historical facts to suit a hollywood agenda while also perverting history with outright falsehoods.
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>>169979130
it's good tbqh
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>>169979015
Actually, he is above all the classes, with Conq and PK being the closest to him. Below them are Warden, Shugoki and after the buffs - possibly Valk. This is judging by the tournament meta which is the higher tier of play currently observable.
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>>169978795
>GB someone out of stamina
>They can GBC instantly as though they weren't
Game favors defense so heavily.
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>>169978984
Not until they fix him properly
But his battleshouts are awesome and you get a massive boner when you manage to pop that perfect counter
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>>169979162
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>>169979184
Could you tell an exemple ?
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>>169979162
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>>169979162
>>169979228
>>169979230
I'm so shit with Conqueror but good ones always wreck me.
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>>169979198
conq is mid-bottom tier currently, people in tournaments being too bad to avoid his "vortex" dont change the character's capabilities
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>>169979278
You should sign up and win a tournament if you are such a tough guy.
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>>169979187
1st season is good
2nd is ok
3rd is bad
4.1 is bad
4.2 is good, by all the good characters died so there is no point watching any more.
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>>169978176
>All that talk of making empty stamina incredibly punishing

Fantastic.

>tfw Wardens always scare the shit out of you to the point where you make really stupid mistakes
>tfw fight was too long so even with cutting it in half the quality is garbage
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>>169979278
>being this bad
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>>169979130
>another LGBT black vikings

You're just spouting memes at this point, with zero actual substance to it.

Is it historically accurate? No, not by a long shot. Unless the vikings in Vikings are time-traveling lads stuck in an LSD dream.

Is it historically authentic? Sort of, to an extent. Like, their outfits are not accurate in the slightest, but the sets are amazing and very authentic. The visuals of the show are great and sometimes really trippy. The music is great. If you can enjoy something for what it is, rather than nitpick the faults for not being historically accurate, and swapping people around in history to better fit the narrative, then it's pretty good.
That's sort of what I had to do, to get into the show. I had to stop thinking about 'hey, that's not historically accurate' or 'that's like, 100 years wrong, dude.' and just enjoy it for what it is.
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>>169979230
>>169979230
ou shit you edited my webms! have some you's my dude
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>>169979230
Poor little roach.
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>>169979302
considering all the "best" tournament players are getting banned for abusing the broken shit in the game currently anybody could win against the leftovers in the "scene" easily
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>>169979308
>empty stamina incredibly punishing
RIP, Law.
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>>169979304
season 2 was the best

fuck off
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>>169974337

Valk
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>>169979369
no u
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>>169979338
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>>169979360
Do it, then, free money for you.
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Why do berserker complain about their class?
Very fast lights in all directions, heavies that are almost as flash so they make amazing feints, very good damage from a lot of setups, and the only useful deflects out of all assassins. Orochis on the other hand are incredibly predictable since they have to spam tops and zones (which are unsafe as fuck compared to berserker lights) yet they're somehow thought as better than berserker. I'm a LB main but it really activates my almonds when vikangz have such an inferiority complex that they believe every single one of their classes is trash. Raider is the only one I consider weak.
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>>169979523
no way to open anyone who just blocks, same problem with kensei
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>>169978176
>For example, the stat that lowers the debuffs you have actually allows you to counter a guardbreak in a situation where you should not be able to counter a guardbreak, which is a bug. This will be fixed really soon. To bad for us, we didn't see it.

>Also, as more people are getting gear and optimising it, we have some stacking of values that were not intended, especially on the Revenge, that now are becoming too powerful. We always wanted the stats to not replace the skill. With Revenge, we're getting to the point where, actually, when I'm an Orochi and I'm blocking two attacks and I'm getting my Revenge full, maybe the stat is a little bit OP. So yes, definitely there is rebalancing we need to do on some stats. We're currently looking at that,
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servers down for anyone else?
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>>169979523
Because no one decent is going to let them do the infinite chain gimmick, especially in this turtle meta
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>>169979596
maintenance
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what
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>>169979362
i had people just give up when they lost stam, it is punishing as shit
though PKs being able to dodge back faster than i can run is absurd
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>>169979523
>>169979572
This. I main Kensei and Berserk now, and it's incredibly difficult to open someone semi-competent.

You need to really step up you game to be good. But you're more than probably a scrub so you wouldn't know that.
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>>169979523
>roaches zone is unsafe
what?
both his lights and zone are safe, so safe, that if countered by warden's top counter they recover in time to parry the said counter
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>>169978176
The fact that the dude acknowledged the typical problems give me some hope that the game won't die in a year.
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>>169979632
nani?
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>>169979632

Its just a visual bug. It can happen several times a match, but it gives you the normal amount.
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>>169979635
he didn't even try to dodge

why do you guys post webms against complete noobs?
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>>169979401
Guess I'll prestige Valk then.
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>>169979705
Dash conq Shield bash is undodgeable last I heard. Only their heavy attack > bash can be dodged.
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>>169978176
>We would still have the same problems on a dedicated server
>When you're far away from the server you would have the same problems
No fucking shit, Ubisoft. Have you never dealt with servers before? These retards act like they've never heard of ping before.
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>>169979748
of course it's dodgeable lmao

it's only undodgeable once if you get bashed against a wall
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>>169979729
you can get a ginger hair for valk, there is no contest
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>>169979748
But I just dodged it in a duel. Weird.
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>>169979705
getting them to try a dodge is basicly a free GB for me, which is even better
i was waiting for him to dodge, anyone would have
but
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Knight(not deus vult fags) = Samurai > Vikangs > D-D-deus vult!!

you literally cannot argue with this
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>>169979770
i wish they just reduced the in-built delay, 100ms is way too big
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>>169978176
>Nerfing revenge gear
Thank fucking christ.
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>>169979401
can you scale symbols on 1 axis only?
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>>169979846
>knights = samurai
UNACCEPTABRU
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>>169979846
D E U S V U L T
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V
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>>169979523

Primarily because if you sit there and do nothing, and don't react to the feints until you know they're committing to that hit, a Berserker has no way into someone's guard, simply because all their attacks are so slow. They would honestly be just fine if they had just something like the headbutt, or an unblockable that just forces the enemy to do something. For being an 'assassin' and a 'harasser' they have no way of doing either. For whatever reason, people play Orochi as a super offensive character when he's a counter-attacker, while Berserker is supposed to be the full offense, but is stuck playing in a reactionary manner.

In the case of Warlord, he can literally just trade you to death. Unless you hit him with a combo top-heavy, he will outdamage you every single hit, and win if he only uses heavy attacks and absorb your hits with the super armor.
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>>169979842
it's not even a 50/50 you have plenty of time to see the animation after the dash
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>>169979670
>a year
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>>169979015
Yeah, but he has fair fights against conqs and wardens. PK has an advantage in those matchups but a disadvantage against lord. You're gambling for an advantage by playing her.
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>>169979995
It's Ubishit, they're guaranteed to at least try to milk the game until first season pass/DLC, so yeah, a year.
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>>169979308
>Warden striking as he's getting parried
This shit is infuriating
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Just noticed my selected color scheme is now marked as locked after the patch. I'm scared to change it.

Also
>a scheme I want is locked behind prestige lvl ~20 or so
HELP
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>>169980046
>has fair fights against conq
>only thing conq can do is parry into a gb heavy
I havent played warden so I've got no idea how the matchup is
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>>169980114
Conq can still bash
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>>169980082
Same exact thing. White/Blue scheme on Warden is locked now, and it requires "rep 0 level 1", so it's definitely Ubishit's fuckup.
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>Conq can get i-frames on shieldbash

should be hotfixed tbqh, it's completely broken
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>>169980046
yeah agaisnt someone good you have to start sprinting towards them and see if they dodge, if they don't you shieldbash, if they do, its a GB
but for most people, dodgebash/GB is enough to get them flustered
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>>169980146
and any warlord can headbutt and get priority
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>>169980190
warlord gets punished hard for getting his headbutt dodged, conq doesn't
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>>169980190
Not on reaction like how PK can with R1s
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>>169980170

If you reset appearance, you'll fix it.
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>playing as valk
>duel vs PK
>proceed to win 3-0
>opponent quits just after the victory choir starts, but before results screen

Is this rage? or is there a point to what he's doing?
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>>169980235
if you dodge you can GB or a light even without a dedicated move.
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>>169980235
you cant dodge the headbutt if you're doing conq's shouldercharge like in the situation I'm discussing though
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>>169980245
Is there a fix for the recently unlocked icon not disappearing? Every time I log on the game tells me my Raider has unlocked a level 0 paint scheme.
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>>169980245
What if I'll lose it instead?
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>>169980274
Rage. Most PKs rely on the fact that they can fart and win a 1 v 1. Probably pissed him off that he couldn't get an easy win.
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>>169979523
And orochi does?
The incredibly fast lights are bound to hit at some point. If people get hit by warden lights regularly, which only come from one direction, why can't berserker do the same when they come from every direction? A couple of feints and they'll have trouble keeping up with the guard direction unless they have an allblock but those characters are currently OP as fuck so it's useless to think about their matchup with anyone.

>>169979601
The infinite chain is really not needed.

>>169979669
I was strictly speaking about their zone. Almost no one's regular lights are unsafe now that the game is patched. You could be right about the zone being safe, but even if we admit this, only being able to use tops and zones is really predictable, especially since zones don't flow very well with lights and feinted heavies. Berserker lights and feinted heavies come as fast as they do in neutral (or faster if you chain) in pretty much any situation.

>>169979654
Kensei might have that problem but if you don't have at least a little bit less trouble with berserker I think the issue might be with you.
But please, continue attacking my character rather than my argument.

>>169979963
Side lights are 15f@30fps which is the same as wardens' top. Top is only slightly slower. The zone is 15f and like all zones can fuck with the indicator. This isn't slow at all compared to the rest of the cast.
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>Ubisoft servers arent online
t-thanks For Honor

also
if I buy the Mythic outfit for 15k do I get it for all of my knights/weebs/kangz characters?

I ask cause I have seen 2 people with the Knight mythic on multiple characters and Viking characters in duels. I had a hard time believing they bought the outfit 3/4 times.
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>>169980190
heh, no, no they don't
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>>169980421
No, just for that character
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>>169980421
>do I get it for all of my knights/weebs/kangz characters?
It's one per character, you sweet naive child.
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>In queue for skirmish for 5 minutes +
Fucking christ what did they break this time
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>>169978176

>We want to buff up the Lawbringer and the Raider a bit.
>Yes, we are looking at putting a penalty on quitting.
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>>169980535
There's maintenance they literally put an ingame notification right on the screen
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>>169980235
anyone with a dodge-attack will fuck conqs shit UP for shieldbashing
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>>169969484
>PK attacks Warden from top 4 times in a row
Jesus I almost want to try playing PK just to be the only non-shitter
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>>169980616
>full block
lol
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>>169969484
Do not bully Peacekeeper!
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>3 v 0 a rep 18 conq as a level 16 kensei due to him having keyboard issues
Sorry bro, but I need them wins
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>>169969484
>PK constantly uses top attacks

why are you posting webm's of terrible players?
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As a warden main I kind of want the vortex to be reworked because I'd honestly rather use my sword more often. Generally speaking, I don't like how little some characters use their weapons. GB is essential after a parry, and I don't think it should be. Let us get as much damage from a parry into heavy as we get from parry into GB.
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>>169980598
That's over with my man
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>>169978176
I'm glad they don't even think of removing revenge, just nerfing revenge gear.
Revenge is absolutely necessary when you get ganked and (when you think of a scenario where revenge gear is nerfed) it's their own fault that you are even able to use it because they spammed attacks at you.
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>>169969484
im doin my part
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>there are people in this general RIGHT NOW who don't think wardlord is the most broken hero
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>Warden with bleed resist feat is immune to fire
kek, nice coding ubisoft
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Can I play any class that won't make people call me a no-skill noob when I win? So far I've tried Kensei (lol nice range fgt), Conqueror (lol nice shield fgt), and Zerker (OP chain fgt)
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>>169980882
The problem with default revenge is even if you can block and CGB everything, you have absolutely no chance against characters with unblockables such a shugoki, warlord, raider, conq, law, etc. You can parry some if you're good and can micromanage everyone else's hits at the same time, but a lot of them are things you have to dodge and that's punished. Even counter guard breaking has a period of time where you can be hit.
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>>169981009
Maybe you should just stop fighting like a faggot.
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Nobushi smells like poor quality tea.
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>>169973447
why would you do this :(
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>>169973359
Fake news from the Lugenpresse.
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>>169969484
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>>169980897
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>>169980989
>Debuff Res maxed helmet
>doesn't do shit against PK bleeds
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>>169980489
You know it was a fair assumption considering that meant those people must have spent at least 45k steel on those outfits.
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>>169981108
But I try to vary my playstyle a lot, I don't go for environmental kills etc.
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>>169981104
So, what can LEGENDARY get out of a GB?
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>>169981148
peacekeeper smells like muslim cum and hot topic incense
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>>169981314
unblockable
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>>169981314
Zone attack. If you throw them into a wall from a distance, a side heavy.
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going for a wild ride
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>>169981314
he can spin people 'round
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>>169981341
Please do not bully Peacekeepers.
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Is this where I put my plays that took no skill?
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>>169978176
>>169980558
>putting penalties for leaving
>While PK's a massive tumor right now
>Retards think this is good
Fuck y'all.
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>>169981343
>>169981360
Is it actually faster/does less damage than a side heavy?
>>169981424
I've noticed that. I admit it's pretty fun, but does it do anything else as opposed to a normal throw? Like, drain their stamina or something.
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If you ever needed any proof that LewdKeeper is a reddit tier meme, heres some autist who copied his name and spams this garbage in chat
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What are your item builds?

I'm a warden with revenge gain on defense and revenge attack damage, and revenge duration. Fun 2v1ing shitters on their home point and pushing people on the ground with MISERUM following with top heavy instagib
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All of a sudden every puts Warlord above Warden and some even drop down to A instead of S.

Yet nobody can explain why. Are they just parroting what Galahad has been saying?
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>>169981681
I'm attempting a Warlord revenge build. See what I can do with it and practice parrying.
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>>169981681
I go for looks and I don't care about items. I have +attack on a sword and stamina regen, I think.
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>>169981575

You can stop being a little bitch any time. PKs are only on the 3rd place of classes that give me the most trouble. And even against the 1st (Warlord) I get as many wins as losses
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>>169981768

Since when were people not putting Warlord at the top. There are answers for everything Warden has. There is no answer for Lightning McHeadbutt.
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Oshit
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>vicucks currently the least played faction at 6 am PST
>magically managing to defend their stronghold's adjacent territories
if ubisoft didnt want us to actually capture each other's strongholds why did they even put them on the map
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>>169981586
Raider can't do anything else besides lights, Zone deals the most damage. And his spin is there only if you want to normal throw people forward to secure a side heavy or something. The carry guarantees only a light.
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>>169981575
>admitting that he leaves games solely because a PK is in them
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When should I scavenge gear? At rep 3?
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I fucking tried, i did. If pk knows the bug she can never be guard broken. From now on i am leaving every single PK game unironically

>>169981768
who?
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>>169981863
As in both heroes being S tier and now for no reason people are dropping Warden to A.

Warlord is 50/50 and dodgable. Does the same shit every time.

>>169981951
The 1v1 Lawbringer that was ruining everyone for awhile. He streams on twitch.
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>>169981883
>Vicucks
memelord detected

also, all those players fighting/botting/afking auto-deploying assets, and not many territories to spread them over means concentrated defense. Think about it anon.
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>Go to play duel
>very high activity
>game matches me with a bot
???
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>>169981951
And what bug is this? I encountered it too but thought it was just a lag thing.
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>>169982057
assassin thing and their unique guard system
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>>169982086
So what is it?
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Warlords belong in the dumpster
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>>169982139
If you change guards a lot of times when you've been thrown, you won't fall down if you're out of stamina
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>mfw I started to get the hang of the lawbringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNwqVUyqqTY
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>>169982178
That's not what we were talking about. Did you even look at the webm? The issue is that PK can tech GBs after being parried.
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>>169982142
*headbutts behind you*
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Can someone PLEASE make a webm with THE EXACT MOMENT when I should GB. The fact that it was counter-intuitive on release, and I adapted, but then they "changed it to beta state" is infuriating.
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>>169982353
go to advanced tutorial you mong
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>>169981630
Perfection will always bring imitators.
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>>169982251
same thing
for some reason it ends the status effect
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>>169981924
>>169981840
At least every other character's attacks can be blocked.

Pissshitters fucking hang your fucking selves
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How should I play against someone that only plays defensive. they dont attack and all they do is parry and guard break. Its the worst matchup for me because I like to play offensive but there really is nothing you can do against something playing full defense except hope they fall for a feint.
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Did i finish the game ?
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>>169981437
>lawbro just brings wrestlemania to that roach
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This seems fair
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>>169982575
Do you have to upgrade to get max gearscore?
Should I upgrade items level 13 or wait until every drop is like level 15 or above?
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>>169982575
>not even Prestige 30 yet
Lmao
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>>169982518

I don't get you people.
If you can't block PK, then why the fuck do you keep trying it? What's the fucking point? Adapt to the situation and get out of her range because he range is her weakness and it truly is a serious weakness of her. You have to be in tongue kiss range for her to be even able to hit you. Roll backwards and wait for her to do her meme dash attack to counter it or counter whatever opener they try. If they just refuse to attack then mock them with emotes until they cry.
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>>169982745
yep, we're not literally trapped in spawn by the peacekeeper and raider. 2 hits give them revenge and 1 hit from revenge takes me down to 1 bar of health.

Fun
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>>169982849
>her range is her weakness
She's literally the best character at closing gaps, engaging and disengaging, you fucking mongrel.

5m long dashes fool
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>>169982749
You have to upgrade purple gear to get max gearscore
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>>169983007

Nigga her dash attacks are what you are waiting for. It's easy as fuck to parry or sidestep attack if you play a class that can do this.
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>>169982849
Mate don't even try to reason with these people. They've never played a fighting game in any competitive sense before and have their wins handed to them by games these days. They wouldn't know what skill is if it came up to they are bit them in the ass.
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>>169983204
Are you claiming PK takes more skill than the rest?
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>>169983204
>PK
>>>>>SKILL
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>>169983112
who said anything about her dash attacks?
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>>169983112
No semi competent PK is going to use it unless there's a really, really good reason to like a wall stagger or your opponent is just shit. It's the same reason decent assassins don't use side dash attacks in neutral or decent valks don't use the jump attack.
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>>169983253

How is your reading comprehension THAT bad? He was talking about countering the PK, not playing her.
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>>169983204
>t. peaceshitter main
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>>169983204
t. PK main or allblock user
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>>169983330
I honestly can't tell if you're retarded or just pretending. I really hope English is your second language.
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>>169983280

The guy he was replying too, obviously.

>"5m long dashes fool"
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>>169983204
>>169983330
>sent from my prestige 108 gearscore PK
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>level 1 orochi
>parries ever attack I use
>check his account
>17 games played in total

E a s y a n t i - c h e a t
i s
s o g o o d
t h a n k s u b i s o f t
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>Didn't cancel my zone fast enough because I'm retarded
>Get parried
>Go from half health to dead

I'm not mad, just letting you guys know never to let a Valkyrie parry you into low stamina because you will be fucked raw.

Literally tore my pants open where she ravaged me.
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>>169983330
>you need a fuckload of skill to win against a braindead broken character
Anyone with two neurons would switch over to the cancer hero. Why work so hard to have fun in a videogame when you can just skip that? Fighting PKs shouldn't be a fucking chore.

nice balancing
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>>169983253
>>169983278

Yes it takes skill to beat good players with her. Sorry if you aren't on that spectrum of skill but you should learn to play against her instead of crying here about it. Literally side step or just parry her shit.

>>169983368
>>169983371
>>169983460
Mained her in beta but switched to Valk on release. I know how strong she is but she is still beatable.
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>>169983204

I guess the usual ubisoft game player didn't expect a game of theirs to take skill.

>>169983280

You mean you wouldn't know what to do if all they did was following you with dashes?
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>>169983469
>there are AHK scripts that can auto-block and parry everything
>they even work on PS4
Feels bad my dog.
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>>169982575
>ruski
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>>169983403

That's rich. Here, i'll hold your hand through this one sweet heart. You see, the context of the discussion was how to counter PK with the original post talking about ways of countering her. Then an anon replied telling him not to bother as the people on this general lack the basic skills to deal and cry when they aren't handed wins. Then you, fuckwit that you are, somehow tried to twist this into a statement about PK requiring skill, because you're a complete fucking mongol that can't read a simple reply chain and pick up on contextual clues.
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GLOBAL EVENT IN 30 MINS
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>>169983529
No one says PK is unbeatable. The problem is that you need more skill to beat a PK than to play one.

A single mistake can cost you the entire duel vs a PK.
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>>169983469
Or he could be someone who, y'know, played the betas a lot?
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>>169967521
=== OFFICIAL TIER LIST === 01 MARCH ===
This list is based on high-level play. Feel free to suggest improvements, but please make sure you know what you're talking about.

SS
>Warlord

S
>Peacekeeper
>Conqueror

A+
>Warden

A
>Shugoki

B
>Orochi
>Nobushi
>Valkyrie*

C
>Kensei**

D
>Berserker

F+
>Raider

F
>Lawbringer

* = Recently buffed so still finding its place, leaning towards A.
** = With the recent stealth nerf and the tech window increase, Kensei is looking more like C-, however certain players such as Alphastrike6 are demonstrating he is much more viable as you utilise more of his arsenal in creative ways.

This list:
>is based around 1v1s.
>doesn't take any bugs into consideration.
>doesn't take gear into consideration.
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>>169982407
Advanced tutorial is incorrect. You can't counter GB when the shield icon flashes but before you get grabbed.
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>>169983406
are you retarded or just pretending?
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>>169983460

>Say that it takes skill to beat PK
>YOU MUST BE A PK PLAYER

Think for two entire seconds before shit posting with green text and shitty reaction images.
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>>169983529
"just parry it lol"
"just don't get hit"
literally your average pk main
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>>169973378

Goldbringer reporting in.
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>>169983480
>PK zonecancer
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>>169983659

>Ask where dash attacks were brought up
>Quotes that post that talks about dashing, engaging and disengaging
>'WOW U STOOPID'

I'm sorry things like reading and grasping context are a bit beyond you.
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>>169983617
>hasn't been updated in days
Deprecated
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>>169967986
i don't know how they get their stats but i'm really bad and listed as top 8%

what is this nonsense
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>>169983750
Fucking nice.
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>>169983480
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>>169983751
>Complaining about something you can counter by just blocking right

Warden's overhead combined with his zone makes defense a guessing game against him. PK's attacks are fucking predictable.
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>>169983609
+10 ubipoints
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Is there anything more satisfying than beating a PK main by the skin of your teeth?

Even knowing the guy was always doing the same thing: light, zone, GB, it was a close fucking call.
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>>169983750
that's just dingy brass you're not fooling me
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FFS STOP ATTACKING THE KANGS

THE SAMURAI ARE DOING THE SAME OLD TRICK LIKE LAST TIME, THEY'RE ATTACKING OUR SOUTHEN FRONT
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>wake up on xbone
>vikings pushed this far back

Holy fuck

S E N D H E L P
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>>169983617
good list overall but i would bring berserker and kensei into the same tier.
from what i have fought:
nobushi and valk are tied together for me
nobushi has damage while valk has her combos
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>>169983753
He said dashes, not dash attacks.

You can do a lot more than just dash attack.
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>>169983608

Well yeah but most people are like "I refuse to not just stand there and get hit by her, NERF PLZ" or ragequit the second they see a PK instead of just learning how to beat them. In terms of difficulty they are on par with Valks for me now.
Valk makes me even more upset when I fail to dodge the sweep. It's fucking cyberbullying.
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>>169983849
>he still bothers deploying assets
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>>169983529
>Yes it takes skill to beat good players with her.

No, it takes average play to beat good players with Peaceshitter. Don't kid yourself.
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>>169983686
>t. exposed butthurt PK main
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>>169983812
Ah are you Coork's friend?

That game was a little annoying because one of my team mates was fucking brain dead and went 0/4. Like carrying a hefty turd.
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>>169983753
you weren't pretending were you?

point me to the sentence where the dash attacks were mentioned
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What's a good Lawbringer buff that wouldn't make him overpowered?

I think something similar to Shugoki's stance or at least a couple hyper armor startup attacks would help get combos going as right now they're too slow and you just get slapped by faster attacks to stop them.

I don't think he should get more stamina, nor do I think any class should. I think stamina is where it needs to be at. Actions while out of stamina such as dodging and guard change, on the other hand, need to be much slower and allow heavy chip damage as penalty for not managing it.
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>>169983950
no, that was the game where you went 0-2 and then spent 5 minutes running around the map trying to get revenge until we caught you and 0-3'd you
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>>169983816
>he says that with a straight face
for one pk zone is twice as fast as wardens and is + on block
her 1st light is as fast as warden's overhead, but can come from any direction
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>>169983892

Actually he said dashing and engaging. Seeing as the context was how PK could outrange opponents via dashing and engaging, the only relevant attack here is dash attacking. Otherwise she's not outranging anything is she?
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>>169984001
I think you're confused, I went 4-3 in that game.
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"upcoming global event"... ?
check your orders
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>>169984001
kek peaceshitters living up to their name
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>>169983840

You caught me.

To be fair I will probably use exclusively black iron when I get it in memory of Iron Tarkus.
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>>169983820
Did the beta stat reset erase your memories too? I mean yeah it could be cheating, but I could parryshit since day 1 after launch

Unless the roach parried every single attack that is. Thats cheating alright
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>>169984001
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>>169982849
Definitely this. 99% of shitters I play against just attack a character whose description is literally "counter-attacker"
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>>169984001
>>169984043

Also I wasn't running to get revenge, I was running to revive my team mates. The only competent player on my team was the Nobushi.
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>playing against a defensive Lawbringer who is psychic to my feints and has perfect gbc

True horror. One wrong move and all of your stamina is gone in a flurry of shoves, side heavies and long arms.
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>>169983608

So then out play her... Like fuck does everything have to be handed to you? Is it not ok to have to work for your wins? I struggle in some matchups in a lot of fighting games like Falco vs Marth or Jam vs Ky, BUT I practiced and overcame those matchups and have a decent winrate against them.

Literally just get better at your hero, play at YOUR pace, not PKs pace. When she plays at a slower pace she is more open to getting caught. It's what's so great about this defensive meta, you can sit back and let someone come to you and react off of that.

>>169983749
That is literally the basics of every fighting game ever you fucking dense idiot.
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>>169969383
>>169969245
You can dodge it to the side even after being light poked. Back dodges only work after a whiff or shield bash, but side dodge works every time, any character.

The -only- situation where a valk sweep can't be sidedodged is if you fall down from being thrown when running out of stamina and she does it as you get up.

Any other situation you can dodge it to the side, even as a heavy.

t. Shugoki main
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>>169984134
and grandpa moans
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>>169984129
>>169984043
are you really pretending you remember a random game from last week? i have a shadowplay, there wasn't even a nobushi on your team lmao
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>>169984160
>t. peaceshitter
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>>169984040
>dash grab
>dash, wait, the attack
>dash, zone
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What the fuck do I do vs nobushi as valk. I can parry 90% of their shit but all I get is the jumping leap attack since theyre too far for GB
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>>169983926
>meticulously deploy assets in all the right places last round
>doesn't make any difference
>get 3rd place and receive 1 box
>first place gets 3 boxes

yeah i'm done paying attention to that shit. it's a "pick arbitrarily and maybe get lucky" game.
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Alright so I vsed a pro kensei player. Did something I've never seen any other player do. So Kenseis have this thing where they can guard a direction while dodging. He would dodge towards me and block whatever attack I would do and instaGB me afterwards and get free damage. This apparently works since the blocking animation doesn't trigger when he blocks while dodging. Pretty sure the two other vanguard characters can do this too, maybe some others.

Just letting ya cunts know this pro technique I found out today.
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Ive been playing warlord since the game started without any knowledge of game style before hand have been maining him since lolvikings. If hes ss tier am i a piece o shit for playing him
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>>169984207
Typical fucking reply by a typical shitter so. Fuck off to dominion
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>>169984196
Then I guess it's a game I don't remember. I'm not calling you a liar, it's just the game I played with you and Coork that I remember on that burning town map was with the Nobushi. I remember calling my 0/4 team mate out and to stop playing with his dick.
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>>169984253
Typical fucking reply by a typical peaceshitter. Git gud.
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>>169984224
if you parry her light you get a free overhead heavy
other than that, you can you outspeed her attacks, your dodge attack is fastest in the game, use that
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>>169984059
Could you parry Peacekeeper lights and zerker mix-ups every time without fail on day one?

Could you tell when the enemy was gonna feint a heavy and then parry their attack after the feint on day one?
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>>169984267
i don't know who Coork is my dude
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>>169984224
deflect(dash counter or whatever it's called)
heavy > bash cancel
poke with lights till dead
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>>169984253
>Fuck off to dominion
I'm not him, but I do play a lot of dominion.
What do you mean by this?
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>>169984048
Woo! 1 free 500 steel box! Can hardly wait!
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>>169983642
use it for practice you retard
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>>169984224
Parry and go for you guaranteed damage, might not be much but neither is hers.

Git gud at dodging the sweep i.e.
>>169984165 and punish. The sweep is extremely punishable
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>>169984310
Ah well shit, I guess you spanked my ass in a public match.
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>>169984298
Yeee
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>>169984334
>thinks about the rewards rather than the fun
Modern gamer.
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>>169984289
I literally said above I played her in beta and moved onto Valk on release. Stop being this shit.

>>169984323
I see it as the casual mode of the game where as 1v1 and 2v2 are more for skill based fighting. Not saying there isn't skill in dominion but with gear and feats, it seems very shitty.
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>>169983617
>PK not top
>raider not at bottom
>conq better than warden

100% retard
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>>169984245
No, I'm in the exact same boat, I picked up Warlord in open beta with no knowledge of previous betas because I love sword and board characters. It just turned out he's really good. People just want an excuse to complain. Doesn't help that the majority of people in these threads are Lawbringer memers and Lawbringer is terrible in 1v1s. Just play who you like, it's a game, it literally does not matter.
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>>169984210

Are we listing things that don't outrange stuff? Here let me blow your mind: the opponent also has a dash and can stay out of range of all that very easily. Only the dash attack is fast enough to outrange anything without allowing the other guy to just step away.
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>>169984449
He was being sarcastic you dumb nigger
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>>169984450
>goes from OP class to OP class
>is proud of being no skill scrub
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>>169982251
thats not a pk bug
i had that happen yesterday parrying a conq
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>>169984451
You're just not good.

I hate warden and he's definitely broken but the sign of an average-skill player and a high-skill player is that the latter A. Gets matchmaked against actually good conqs and B. Knows how to handle a warden.

Conq is definitely better than warden, you just aren't good enough to see that yet. Give it time
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>>169984518
No you werent
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>>169983617
And by "high level play" do you mean a a few shitty, small tournaments? Were you fucks not alive when MvC2 came out? That is a classic case of tier lists changing dramatically when people figure shit out, this game isn't even a month old.
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>>169984356
>GB mechanics are completely wrong in advanced tutorial
>use it for practice
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>>169984449
The event is literally you just playing a specific mode enough times. It's nothing new added to the game. You can play the same content right now. I am excited neither for the event, nor for the rewards.
>>
>High debuff resistance allows you to tech some otherwise untechable guardbreaks if you have it high enough

True?
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>>169984527
Valk was far from OP on release you special boy. You might want to go and get some skill if you are just going to cry OP here.
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What are the chances of ZERKER getting buffed?
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>>169984503
My original point was that PKs dash OUTRANGES everyone else's. What's the use of dashing if she can stay on your face all match?
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>>169984630
>peaceshitter talking about skill
top lel
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>>169984578
FH has nowhere near the depth actual fighting games have.
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I lowered the size of the dead zones on my control and while it's made my blocking faster I feel like I'm now worse at parrying? Does that make any sense? Or am I just having an off day and blaming it on the new config
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>>169984550
>can't explain why just lol you're not good because you don't agree with me

warden main detected
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>>169967521
>Berserker does 70 damage (almost 3 bars) off of one knockdown

Is this legit, or is it a bug? Thats 60%-ish life for most classes.
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>>169984705
what's the point in explaining it to you when you will say:
"i beat conq all the time, git gud"

get to the higher level before talking about tier lists
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>>169984609
holy shit you really are mental. the description is off but the bot still spams gb on you, just use that for practice
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>>169984651

If she's dashing in empty and only following up with zones or GBs then it's pretty easy to dash away or even just walk backwards to make her whiff. Who is slow they're worried about dash GB?
>>
MAN I SURE DO LOVE PLAYING WARLORD.

POST MAINS
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>>169984648
Right now - none to our knowledge. LB and Raider are the ones getting buffs, Warlords and Conqs the ones getting nerfs.
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>>169984792
its called a combo
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>>169984858
No.
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>>169984858
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>>169984705
>warden main detected
If only. I main kensei and zerker, my warden is level 2, haven't played him since launch say
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>>169984796
You have to be 18 to post here.

You can counter tutorial bot right when GB icon flashes. You can't counter both human and bots players like that in a regular game. Educate yourself before talking shit.
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>>169984792
it is legit
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>>169984795
>im psychic and can tell what you're going to say so i wont even bother to explain something so obvious
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>>169984858
WE
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>>169984807
>pk
>whiff GB
Pure gamble.
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>>169984858
I do too anon, I find him very fun because I like that he can both turtle and push offensively. I will continue to play Warlord even after he is nerfed, but people will probably still complain.
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>>169984893
have you heard about the latest patch?
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>>169984629
BAD NEWS: Yes it's 100% true
GOOD NEWS: Devs have confirmed that this is unintentional, they consider it an exploit and it will be fixed in the next patch
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>>169984919
yup, thanks for understanding
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>>169984965
No. What does the last patch do?
>>
>duel against a level 10 pk
>win as lvl 2 warlord
>hr cleary spent alot of money on this game

Tfw i can feel his anger from here holy fucking shit
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>>169984868
Its not much of a combo or a mixup of any description, the enemy can not do anything about it if they are on the ground. I guess you just shouldn't attack at all against berserker and just punish his attacks instead, because if you get parried you are fucked.
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>>169984893
Not him but practice mode isnt online. Even bots in online matches have a different timing. You gotta do it sooner.
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>>169985007
just because you play a lot, doesn't mean you are good

w0w
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>>169985003
Go educate yourself before talking shit.
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>>169985037
its a combo and its in the move list
you only fall down if youre out of stamina
welcome to the game
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>>169985003
Changes GB timings. Go look up the patch notes dummy

It's already out on PC, console poors are still waiting for daddy to approve of it so it'll be a while
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>>169985091
>asks a question
>lol educate yourself retard

b-but that's what he's trying to do
>>
>Event starts
>Bugs out
>Matchmaking is broken now
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伝 説
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>People telling LB/Raider they need to stop ledge killing

Why would you tell a class to not play to their strengths? If they're not using their CC moves to environmental kill you they're playing at a heavy disadvantage and might as well just pick Warden or something. Half their fucking kit (At least in LBs case) is dedicated to moving you around, with an environmental kill being the best possible reward.

I don't understand this mentality at all, it's like saying that a Dhalsim player has "no honor" because he's playing to his characters strength by correctly spacing you and stopping you from getting in with his fireballs and his normals.
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>>169972483
If they're falling for zerker's spam they can be salty all they fucking want, they're just fucking bad
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>>169984858
>I SURE DO LOVE PLAYING WARLORD
Same.
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>>169985261
People will complain about A N Y T H I N G that makes them lose. If they 100% got rid of all environmental kills people would still complain.
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>>169985261
ledging removes the fight
aka the actual gameplay of the game
ledging is a mistake and only for casual team modes
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>>169969219
>3 zones in a row
sign of a baby, really
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>>169977243
Most of us aren't making coats of arms. We're mostly making memes.
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>>169971137
seconding this.
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How is it possible, that zerkers 30f attacks are easier to parry than wardens, orochis, warlords, or pks 30f attacks
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>>169985526
You kidding? Nigger if this was real life why the fuck are you fighting near a ledge like you retarded yes im going to kick u off lmao get outa here with tgat weak ass shit
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>>169985616
they're not, warden/orochi lights are only fast if they're from top, warlord/zerk are only fast from sides, and all of pk's are fast
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>>169984956
This. Also his side lights are far more broken than the headbutt.
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>>169970183
>Lawbringer frequently referred to as the most underpowered hero
>Lawbringers everywhere
All those people who like to believe they are more 'pro' if they play an under-tier char.
Are you one of those?
if not, then play whatever is most fun
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>>169985641
cause its not real life and im not fighting to survive, im fighting for fun
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>>169985470
daniel pls go
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>>169985945
U have to do both here dood sorry thats life
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>>169985693
they are for me
i can consistently parry a berserker, compared to getting caught by all those other ones
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>>169985928
Lawbringer is fun in dominion
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>>169985928
i just love his design and love polearms as a weapon, i knew from playing him he was weak when the game first launched, but stuck with him, and ill continue to play him till hes buffed, then ill play him even more and not suffer from the struggle of 1v1s and not being allowed to make mistakes and only really having the fundamentals to rely on.
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>>169981437
I will never not love this clip.
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>>169985928
hes simply the best looking\sounding character and i love him.
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>>169985560
Why are you Parrying them? You would've landed your first GB attempt on a block.

Just showing off for no reason?
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>>169985945
Well the characters in the game are not fighting for fun, go play Smash or something
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>>169986281
No hell complain about getting ledged there too pffffttt
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>>169986142
>best sounding character
>HYOOOOOOOOO
>HUOOOOOOOOO
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>>169986403
fuck off lawbringer is the coolest
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>>169986403
NO SUPERSTES
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>>169986403
Dumb Simpsons poster
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>>169986281
funny that you remember smash, and dont remember 90% of actual fighting games that don't have instakill throws
>>
>zerker swings slower than the other assassins and has one predictable combo

Who designed this fucking character? Why are the vikings character excluding warlord such utter garbage?
>>
Man peacekeepers seem kind of busted
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>>169986535
>Finally it allows all regions, all skill levels just to get a match
I have never got into a match UNLESS it was "all region" and "all skill levels".
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whycome conqueror has such a girly voice?

Do you think she gets bullied about it despite being big and strong?
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>>169986529
zerker can feint heavy into light, and its super fast. Also dodgeblock stun is good if you can get the timing down.

And calling valk garbage... you need to l2p son.
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>>169986142
>>169986403
Peacekeeper is the best sounding character. Everything that comes out of her mouth is cute/sexual.
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some Warlord just gave me valuable constructive criticism
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>>169986615
>language: your language
>locked at all times
>language is region locked, cant even choose english
t-thanks ubisoft
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>>169986521
>smash is the only fighting game with ringouts
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Legit spat my drink on my screen cause of that
I headbutt spammed him a little
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>>169983984
Guard change speed standardized across all characters.

Shove confirms into light attack.

Parry>"make way" gets bug fixed to send out a fast zone attack like it's supposed to instead of the glacial standard zone attack.

Hyper armor on long arm of the law.

His "parry > x" moves confirm on parries. Not just light parries.

Light riposte starts a chain.
>>
>>169986751
>what is reading
>>
>>169986712
Did you thank him and promise to take his advice to heart?
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>>169986197
bad habit of mine to try to parry things instead of blocking them
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>>169970242
>Max feat cooldown reduction, attack, and revenge mode attack
>use the three Bomb feats the Law has for some reason
>>
>>169986836

i told him "git gud shitter" and quit to world map before he could splerge out a reply
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>>169986804
>Shove confirms into light attack
>LB is now unsafe to attack even with lights because he can punish off a block, not just parry

Why do people love the idea of a defensive meta so much? Cancer.
>>
>>169986804
>shove confirms into light attack
when ppl are complaining about warlord headbutt?
not a good idea mate
>>
>>169986687
>valk
>good
Now I know you have a shit opinion
>>
>>169986941
the shove is much easier to dodge, though. I'd be totally fine with that buff as someone who never plays LB
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>tfw enemy team misunderstimates my shitter powers and decides to be honorable in a 3v1 situation
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>>169986657
why does her rock penis trigger me so much
>>
>>169987232
she's certainly not top tier but she isn't trash anymore either
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>>169987267
you cant dodge the shove after block can you
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>>169987289
Nice.
>>
STILL nothing about the memory leak?
How fucking long can it take? They are not exactly a small studio.
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>>169987467
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>>169986712
Man fighting a valk as a zerker is a nightmare at least for me... she is so quick I get a nose bleed just trying to focus enough to avoid her attacks
>>
Y-yellow NAT?
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>>169984881
fresh
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>>169979162
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So what is this double steel meme? Is it already on for all modes or only for dominion? Or will it be enabled when the global event is done?
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>>169987973
the amount of steel we get for -completing orders- is doubled for the weekend.

But that's it, it only affects steel gained from completing orders, not all steel gained from matches
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Does the Warlord get any chainmail armor cosmetics at rep 3?

I want to know if I should commit to this class and it's leather belts.
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>>169988160
It's furshit all the way, sorry.
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>>169988142
Where did you see that ?
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>>169987362
they changed chain by 100ms

If you think that magically made her better you're fucking retarded
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>>169979162
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>>169988142
Fucking kikes.
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>first event order
>it's Dominion

no
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>>169986721
if language is region locked

and if language never goes as far as "all languages"

what the fuck does it even mean when matchmaking switches to "all regions"
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>>169986923
>shove is the worst charge in the game because it confirms into fucking nothing
>propose to change that
>freak the fuck out

Shove on block may need to slow down, but as things stand LB would be a stronger character if he didn't have shove weighing him down. Then he could at least sidestep attacks and guard break while the opponent is vulnerable instead of having that input wasted on sidestep into gb-oh-wait-thats-a-shove into fucking nothing.
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>>169988259
>changed chain by 100ms
hahaha what a dumb boy you are. Here are the changes they made to valkyrie:

Pouncing Thrust & Hunter's Strike damage increased from 12 dmg to 17 dmg
Pouncing Thrust & Hunter's Strike can link into Light Chain faster: from 400 ms – 900 ms to 200 ms – 500 ms
Light Attacks recoveries reduced by 100 ms
Light Attack Miss Recovery 900 ms to 800 ms
Light Attack Hit Recovery 700 ms to 600 ms
Light Attack Interrupt Block Recovery 800 ms to 700 ms
Light Attack Regular Block Recovery 700 ms to 600 ms.

Light Chain second Attack Startup reduced by 100 ms, recoveries reduced by 100ms
Light Chain second Attack Startup 600 ms to 500 ms
Light Chain second Attack Miss Recovery 800 ms to 700 ms
Light Chain second Attack Hit Recovery 600 to 500 ms
Light Chain second Attack Interrupt Block Recovery 700 ms to 600 ms
Light Chain second Attack Regular Block Recovery 600 ms to 500 ms

Shield Crush can now be chained into Light Chain
After 400 ms into Hit Recovery
After 500 ms into Miss Recovery

Hunter's Rush Recoveries shortened by 200 ms
Miss recovery 1000 ms to 800 ms
Hit recovery 800 ms to 600 ms
Interrupt Block recovery 900 ms to 700 ms
Regular Block recovery 800 ms to 600 ms

Do you feel dumb now? They did a hell of a lot more than "changing chain by 100ms."

Remember, if you're a consolepoor you don't have the patch yet so if she doesn't seem better that's why
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>Event is just fucking Dominion
>Reward is just 1000 steel and ONE BOX
>BOTH OF WHICH YOU CAN GET IN 2 DAYS OF DAILIES
Can we all finally agree that faction war is just a fucking meme?
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Is there any fix for the crash right when the match ends?
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>>169988821
works fine on my end check your hardware :^)
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>>169973359
Is the phrase even in the game?
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>>169988617
>Pouncing Thrust & Hunter's Strike damage increased from 12 dmg to 17 dmg
>Pouncing Thrust & Hunter's Strike can link into Light Chain faster: from 400 ms – 900 ms to 200 ms – 500 ms

This is the real buff here. Her second light attack comes out so fast that it beats out most every other light attack. So you can whiff the first Hunters Strike, get the second and carry into a sweep.

The rest of the buffs are just QoL shit she needed. Her grab recovery is still shit and I have a feeling that's because you could shield crush into grab at one stage so they made her grab super laggy and when they removed it, they just never fixed her grab recovery.
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>>169988871
lol no, but it won't stop brainwashed commies from throwing a bitch fit about it.
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>>169988442
i dont know
maybe some versions have multiple?
russian version has russian and chinese
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>VALKYRIE CAN CANCEL HER SHIELD BASH INTO A FORWARD DASH

FUCK
OFF
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>literally no counterplay to a defensive PK

ebin
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>>169988745
>getting something for free which would normally take 2 days of "work" is bad
would you complain too if your boss at work paid you an extra salary equal to 2 days?
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>>169989191
Be Warden and spam overhead/zone. She can't react fast enough.
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>>169988886
When could you shield crush into grab? that first private test when she was broken?

I'm fine with it being removed, but would it fucking kill them to remove it from her movelist? Everyone who's tried to main valkyrie has wasted time trying to get the timing down before giving up, googling, and realizing it's impossible
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>>169989195
It's so bland and useless they might as well just give us the rewards.

The only explanation I can find for it is that they want people to gather data about broken gear stats in dominion.
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>>169989173
you're talking about the one where she has to hop back, right? what's wrong with that

>>169989195
if it was in recompence for refusing to pay me for a full day of work the week before for no good reason? Yeah, i'd probably complain
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Can someone explain the benefits of throwing someone into a wall instead of simply using a heavy after a guardbreak? I understand the positioning aspect of it but what are the other benefits?
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Daily reminder you'll never be better than your oponent, you either used a cheezy mechanic or there was some technical difficulty on their end.
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>>169989428
mate, not everyone autistically min-maxes in every game and expects MAXIMUM PAYOUT OR BUST

some people are content with logging on, seeing that there's an event running for playing Dominion, think something along the lines of "alright, I'll do my part" and just play.

is that so hard to understand?
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>>169989336
Back in alpha yes. I spent a good hour at release trying to get the timing down but it's just not possible.

I fully believe that is why her grab recovery is so shit because of how easy it was to use out of SC

>>169989496
Throwing them into a wall is a 100% garunteed heavy attack. Some heavy attacks are blockable for certain heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tvp5ca_FCw

Watch and see which ones are block able.
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>>169989496
not every heavy is guaranteed
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>6th game in a row the game kicks me out right as the match ends so I don't get any xp or rewards
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why would this happen
i was already doin the block animation too
is this some network shit?
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When do orders reset? I only have 2 left from yesterday, havent gotten any for today yet
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>>169989496
Some heavies can't be landed if you only guardbreak, like the Warden's Overhead Heavy, since they recover too fast.

If they're thrown against a wall, they're stunned for long enough that you can land said heavies.
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>>169989607
kensei is OP
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>>169989496
depending on the character, you can get various guaranteed actions after a wallsplat that are not guaranteed after a GB.

For example, kensei gets a guaranteed top unblockable after a wallsplat, which can be blocked after a normal GB or throw. Shugoki gets a guaranteed bearhug after a wallsplat, which will do much more damage than the guaranteed heavy he gets out of a normal GB. many characters who only get a guaranteed side heavy out of a GB get a guaranteed top heavy (more damage) out of a wallsplat, etc etc etc
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>>169989441
>Dodge to the side thinking you're gonna get charged
>LOL FORWARD DASH GUARDBREAK WHILE UR DODGING

Busted
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>>169989619
There is literally a timer in game my man you only have to look
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>>169989574
If they want to make something special out of it, they could've at least made some kind of new mode for it, like a castle siege mode or something.

I mean if you're gonna make an event with is basically what you've been doing since you bought the game, why even fucking have it?
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>>169989619
it says when they reset on the orders screen, use your eyes man, there's a timer
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>>169989441
where does it say anything about the event being recompensation for the server outage?
the double steel on orders and the 3 day champ status are recompensation, the event is just a regular thing

I'm not whiteknighting, but people are expecting too much when it comes to boni and rewards in games
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>do a skirmish vs ai because lol if you want 300 steel play our shitty mode
>need 5 executions
>get somewhere around 10
>end game
>whole game didnt count
>no xp, no progress on order
ubisoft
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I've been dueling Valkyries lately and their combos are insane, after a headbutt or shield crush, they can sweep, light > sweep, or GB, it's really cool to fight against.

>>169989496
gives you any heavy you want

example: Warden can get a side heavy off of a GB(30 dmg), but if he throws them into a wall, he gets a top heavy(40 dmg), assuming you didn't take forever to swap your guard + the wall wasn't at point blank
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>someone threatened to kill me if he saw me in person

Jesus is this game that serious?
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How to do those quick pokes as kensei. i fought one that did side step followed by quickpoke. i don't think it was a norm sidestep attack
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>>169989773
Just dodge
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>>169989773
You can dodge every sweep and punish her.
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>>169989786
You're playing PK, aren't you? PK is the only character I can see getting this tier of salt.
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>>169989675
>>169989441
Not him but is there anything you can do besides getting out of range ASAP as she does it? It's shoulder-charge tier but with 484867m of range.

What about the sweep after 2hits? Can you roll out of it like you can with the warden vortex?
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>>169989607
Kensei over head attacks are broken
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>>169989704
see >>169989749

especially in regard to a fucking ubisoft game.
what did you expect, a fullblown holiday event like blizzard does it in WoW?
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>play kensei in dominion
>face team cancer (Warlord/conqueror/PK)
>the shittalk is real
>get ledge at the very start of the game
>alrightythen.jpeg
>sit on A and proceed to destroy them the whole game, you can feel that they're frustrated as they're keep coming 2vs1
>finally 1v1 the Jarl, he gets so salty that he DC and crash the game

Worth it. Is there a better feeling ?
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>>169989675
haha you're dumb.

>he tricked me it's busted!
wew

It is so easy to side dodge her shield bash on reaction, wait until she starts it ya dummy, don't side dodge when she hops back
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>>169989607
This happens to me a lot too against kensei and less often against other characters. The worst is when you guard the first hit but the second magically goes through. What the fuck? This cost me so many matches.
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>>169989675
i'd put money on this being the same nerd who thinks kensei is broken

>>169989863
don't roll out of the sweep, side-dodge it. takes some practice but once you get the timing down you'll do it every time. I side dodge her sweep all the time as fucking shugoki. the ONLY time you can't dodge valkyrie sweep is if she does it while you're getting up after you run out of stamina and get thrown to the grownd.

In every other situation it can be side dodged. it can be back dodged or rolled out of if she does it out of a whiff or the shield bash, but if she hits with a light first you have to side dodge. Timing is tighter but you'll iframe right through it, and be right next to her for an extremely, extremely easy punish

this, basically: >>169984165
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>>169989863
shoulder charge tier? you can literally mash the dodge button while holding left or right when she starts the sweep and it works to dodge it every time with iframes, and you'll be an inch away from her for a GB or punish attack. Works for me every time as lawman and conq so I imagine it would be even easier for other chars, especially those with side dash attacks
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>>169990176
I don't think I have a good enough reaction speed to dodge it when I see it. I know she can cancel the charge into GB, and she can follow the two pokes with a GB too instead of a sweep and since I'm slow in the head I get caught preemptively dodging.

If anyone playing valk is willing to improve my muscle memory I'd be grateful.
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>>169990324
She can cancel the charge into GB and get you while you dodge, this is that guessing game which gets me.
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>>169989863
how is it as bad as the shoulder bash?

the bash is so bad because the two solutions to the 50/50 counter eachother: if you think it's gonna be a grab and you try to CGB, you'll get bashed if you're wrong. If you think it's gonna be a bash and you dodge, you'll get hit by the untechable GB. only thing that beats both is rolling away which kills half your stamina.

Valk's shieldbash can't be cancelld into a GB, so a side dash will sort it every time unless she's up in your face enough to get you with a forward dash.

Honeslty I usually just guard up and let her do her thing without dodging. If she does the attack out of it, I parry. If she GB's I counter GB. and if she hits me with the bash and sweeps, I just dodge the sweep to the side and GB her.
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>>169990538
How is valk any different?
Either she bash or she cancel into grab and with the latency you have to do it quite early, possibly before she releases the charging stance.

The sweep is the same. Either she does a sweep or she does a grab. At least with the vortex you can roll away from it.
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>>169990412
>I know she can cancel the charge into GB

you're wrong, though. She can't cancel the charge into a guardbreak. Not once the charge has begun. When she's in crouched shield up mode she can do a forward dash into GB, yeah, but that's easy to just outrange or CGB if it hits. Once she actually begins the shield charge, it can't be cancelled into anything.

>>169990516
again, I don't know what you're talking about, she can't cancel into a GB while she's doing the bash! She can cancel into a dash GB after she jumps back and is in allblock stance, which again is easy to just avoid or CGB. Once she actually charges you there's no cancelling
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all these nerds who think valk is better than warden now lmao

if i can fuck her up as LB you should be able to fuck her up as roachi or whatever cancer you main
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>>169990740
The actual bashing part is really fast and it takes me that long to figure out if it's a dash or a bash. I'm slow as fuck.
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How do you punish PK?
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>>169990859
I mean, you're admitting it's a problem with you so I don't know what to say. I can't help you if your reactions are that fucking slow, sorry m8. The shield bash is all glowy, the dash into GB just isn't.


this sounds like a you problem, not a game problem
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>>169990950
you wait for her to get nerfed
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>>169991064
Yes I'm admiting I'm slow. This is why my initial post was asking if I can back away from it like I can with warden's vortex. I main zoning characters in fighting games because the distance gives me enough buffer to counteract my stupid.
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>>169990950
You don't, you have to rely on them making a mistake because she was designed by fucking retards for retards.

You basically pray that they actually fall for a feint, but people that have played this game and become one with the shitty cheese meta will almost never parry you because standing still doing nothing is the most effective way to play.
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>>169990841
>fuck her up as LB
yeah maybe if you're playing against a bad valk player
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>>169988360
>go play the game's main mode guys

how is this any kind of "event" anyway
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>>169991221
yes, like warden's vortex it can be rolled away from. certainly not the optimal way to deal with it, but it will work if you've got the stamina for it

>>169991461
if you git gud at dodging the sweeps you can fuck up valk as a n y o n e

>>169991831
this is what happens when they decide to shit out an event as an apology but don't want to spend any time or energy coming up with something actually interesting
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