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>>169898467
>Bunched up against the guy with the Left Eye:

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILER): https://my.mixtape.moe/ldkpad.webm

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.
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>>169950003
>The stickler here is that Yuria's dialogue implies that Elfriede willingly abandoned her principles as a sister of the Sable Church, out of kindness towards something else.
That kind of ties into the Corvians and the painted world actually.

>Friede fails to usrup the fire and burns away in a firelinking event
>Resurrects as an Ashen One
>Feels like a fucking failure, a forlorn soul if you will
>Drawn into the painted world, meets with the corvians, decides to abandon the Sable Church to protect them.
>The story of Ashes of Ariandal occurs.
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>TFW the way of white circlet actually represents the white sun of usurpation >>169949992

>TFW the sword of avowal, a relic from the ringed city, is a ceremonial blade portraying the way of white circlet

>TFW way of white was the official religion of the city of the dark pygmys

>TFW dark wraiths and way of white are linked

>TFW it's all about to be explained
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from the /v/ drawthreads
my favourite boss
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>>169950905
>tfw you die to Wolnir
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>>169950885
>TFW dark wraiths and way of white are linked

>tfw when the darkwraiths and path of dragon covenants used to be one and the same.

>>169950905
Hit me up with some lore on this guy. Is he Yhorm's father? The ruler of the Profane Capitol?
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>>169950905

Does it bother anyone else that you can't skip him? On my first playthrough, looking at the goblet I said to myself "This is definitely a trap" and decided to just walk past, only to find the door is locked and there's no other way round.
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>>169950974
>dying to any of the gimmick bosses in DaS3

neck yourself my man
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>>169950905
Based drawfags, where would these boards be without them?

>>169951215
There's no lore whatsoever on Wolnir outside of being the conqueror of Carthus, unless you want to take his line as the one who destroyed all the crowns of lords and made them one as the one who conquered Drangleic at some point after the events of II.
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>>169951215

way of white, dragon covenant, way of white, and dark moon (through velka) all used to be linked into the same church
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>>169950974
The first time dying to most bosses is understandable.

Dying beyond the first time against Wolnir would be pretty retarded. Especially in another NG cycle where he only aggros after you pick up the tome; you can literally walk up to one of his arms from the outside and get a free bracelet kill before the fight even starts.
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>>169951371
It's always due to getting greedy and having him lunge forward when I expected the final bracelet to shatter.
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>>169950905
Excellent design.
Terrible boss battle.
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>>169951367

dark wraith*

fuck
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>>169950713
If she was drawn into the painting then she didn't exactly have much choice but to abandon the church. Things don't normally get to leave the painting after coming there. Player character and Sulyvahn are exceptions because you're both OC mary sues.

Rather, she probably self-imposed exile and fled the church upon becoming unkindled because it made her very existence a contradiction to the values of the religion she founded. Being someone who finds a sense of fulfillment in leading and protecting the weak and no longer having anyone to protect meant she had no purpose in life, and so found herself in the painting.
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>>169950885

tfw you get the sword of avowal as a useable weapon in the DLC2
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>>169951596
>Things don't normally get to leave the painting after coming there.
Ah, but is that an inability to do so, or simply the fact that those normally drawn into it simply don't HAVE a reason to leave?
Back in DS1 leaving it was as simple as jumping off a cliff.
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>>169950885
>TFW it's all about to be explained
>Memezaki ever giving a satisfactory explanation in a Dark Souls game
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>>169951735
>generic quality SS with broadsword moveset
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>>169950905
Damn anon that's some shit taste
Cool design though, it's kinda funny how they had hype trailer shots of Wolnir and Yhorm despite being complete trash.
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>>169943758
>painstakingly follow an appearance guide from here
>match up an interesting tattoo and hair with it
>then feel I have to restrict myself to open-face headgear

I know them feels.
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>>169951834
>Back in DS1 leaving it was as simple as jumping off a cliff.
Only if Priscy gave you permission
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>>169952016
Did you have to specifically talk to her before jumping off transported you back? Because you could also come back if she was dead.

Who knows.
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>>169951596
>Being someone who finds a sense of fulfillment in leading and protecting the weak and no longer having anyone to protect meant she had no purpose in life
Oh yeah, shes doing a lot of that in the painted world isn't she?
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>>169952154
If you aggrod her the drop became death until she was dead.
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>>169951596
Unkindled can use bonfires to warp. Friede herself tells you this about the bonfire in the chapel when she asks you to leave.

If anything, DaS1 is the aberration, but that's also partly due to bonfire warping not being a universal mechanic at the time. You also couldn't warp out of Seath's prison, presumably because it's been set as a trap.
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>>169952205
She's protecting them from fire.
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>>169952205

>game about the futility and foolishness of refusing to let go
>hurr why is everything going bad
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BIG TRC LEAKS INCOMING. BRACE YOURSELF>>>

[aldia]
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>>169952789
>aldia
Your not fooling anyone.
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>>169946951
Always nice when invasions take a different direction like that.
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>>169951834
>>169952016
>>169952154
>>169952252

I thought Priscilla was as much of a steward of the painted world as she is a prisoner. She doesn't want to leave herself, and clearly knows how to leave.

She probably acts as judge of who can and can't stay in the world as well as preventing the prisoners chucked there from leaving, which might explain why you find Xanthous King, Jeremiah's corpse propped up on the bench after you kill his dark spirit. He probably tried to make a break for it and the jump to leave didn't work for him.

I guess the painting guardians outside are there to gank her if she were to change her mind.

>>169952789
terrible attempt. -2/10
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What's the difference between the Heide Lance and Heide Greatlance? Just different numbers?
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>>169952789
I neeed new info, when will we be able CE the new items? I cant wait any longer to use new shit
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>always managing to kill the 3 doggos and chunk down Gravetender just fine
>get my ass handed to me numerous times when I try to focus down the Gravetender while he runs like a pussy and the Greatwolf reams me

Any specific tips? I've tried using those pillars as cover to split them up, but it doesn't work very well since I always spend too much time trying to find the Gravetender while the Greatwolf is distracted, and he keeps dodging my attacks for me to do enough damage to him. I've always managed to get him down to one or two more swings before the two of them double-ream me.
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>bloodborne introduced the two phase
>dark souls 3 brought in the 3 phase
>the ringed city is bring in 3 phase with variations depending on how you finished the second phase

fuck memeyizaki
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>>169952427
>>game about the futility and foolishness of refusing to let go
I know you're right, but condemning hanging on to the past is silly when the only alternative is oblivion.
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>>169954309
Greatlance leans more towards lightning damage and is stronger on a faith-focused build. Lance is more of a hybrid weapon and weaker for buffs but much more stamina-efficient
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>tfw bored waiting in line for switch
Do you think From will actually port a souls game to this thing?
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>>169954672

everything ends anon, even you. you can only hang on for so long
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>>169954638
It should be noted that BB's two-phase fight still had one health bar, and the fight went into phase two when half of it was gone. That's nothing new; there's more pomp and circumstance for Ludwig, but it's really just another boss getting mean at low health.
It's only Ds3 that pulls that goes full retard and pulls out a second (or third) health bar out of it's ass. Because lying to the player about how much of the fight is left in a game all about resource management is just great.
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>>169953017
You're pretty much correct, as far as DkS3 characterizes her. Her mythos and legacy is of a mother figure who accepts the forlorn and a guardian and keeper of the peace who murders people who stir shit. It's what Elfreide emulates, and what her items make direct reference to, as well as those of the Corvians.
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>>169954914
Well with a few optimizations it could probably handle King's Field.
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>>169954638
Which bosses do 3 phase?
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>>169954974
And I'll hang on for as long as I can, like any sane man would.

>>169954779
So just different numbers. Lame.
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>>169955150
Friede and Ariandel
Batwing Demon / Demon Prince
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>>169955150
Sister Freide.
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>>169954638
How does phase 3 differ if you kill Demon from Below?
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>>169954638
DaS1 and 2 both had two-phase bosses
DaS3 has 3-phase bosses in its main game.
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>>169955019
>It's only Ds3 that pulls that goes full retard and pulls out a second (or third) health bar

>Lothric Princes
>Nameless King I guess, but it's super obvious you'll have to kill his giant bird and then him
>...
I literally can't think of any other boss that pulls out a second healthbar, and who pulls out a third? Haven't played Ariandel yet.

>>169955231
>>169955397
Okay, so that's one more boss (not counting the DLC boss that isn't even out yet because that's dumb), for a total of 2.5 bosses with multiple healthbars.

Also lets not forget that multiple healthbar bosses have been in since DeS, and DaS had the first two-phase fight. Why are you all bitching only now?
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>>169955405
The Demon Prince's gimmick changes depending on which demon survives phase 2.
If the DfB becomes the prince, he constantly summons floating chaos that orbits him and fires at you. If the CB becomes the prince, he has the laser from the trailer instead
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>>169954638

every boss in ringed city has 3 phases

in fact, the final boss has 6 phases, because of its nature of fighting 2 bosses simultaneously.
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>>169955425
>DaS3 has 3-phase bosses in its main game.
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>>169955628
NK has 3 phases.
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>>169954914
From has stated they've tested Dark Souls' performance to a level they thought was acceptable
Like PS3 Blighttown with two phantoms summoned was apparently
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>>169955689
What is his 3rd phase? The lightning based attacks that start appearing in his moves?
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>>169955689
Nigga can you count
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>>169955689
Are u on pc?
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>>169955534
>DaS had the first two-phase fight

demon's souls had two multi-phase fights, maneater and flamelurker. technically flamelurker has like, 4 phases.
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>>169955765
Yes.
He's starts using them about 60% of the way into his healthbar and always 'begins' his final phase with the big thunder slam.

Yhorm also has 3 phases, by the way. You just never notice unless you bother fighting him without stomruler.
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>>169955864
>Yhorm also has 3 phases

I killed yhorm legit and never saw a 3rd phase.
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>>169955983
It's a pretty small change. He gains two new combo extensions that he only uses if you stay in front of him instead of going between his legs.

The 3 hit combo can loop the last two hits continuously as long as you keep rolling backwards. I mean that in the literal sense, I've gotten him up to 11 reps.
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Hey guys, I recently realized that I havent seen many peoples summon signs much at all anymore. I finally died to my first boss, the Pontiff, and kept dying so I looked around and waited for a sign but couldnt find any.
Killed the pontiff finally after I got the timing right, but the summon signs, am I too high level for the area to summon anyone? I just leveled to 17 after I killed the pontiff.
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>>169954621
Welp, the attempt after that post was the one. Apparently the trick is to keep circling the pillars and just look for an opportunity where the Gravetender is caught switching weapons or trying to cast through the pillars.

As it turns out, the Greatwolf was no challenge at all, literally almost all of its attacks could be blocked with a medium shield, if not easily rolled out of the way because of obvious telegraphs. The second phase didn't even last that long because I managed to stagger it shortly after and riposte it down to requiring just one more attack.

Now I'm starting to see why everybody says this DLC sucks, the boss fight was trivialized by just spacing the mobs in the first phase, and then slowly whittling down the Gravetender in the second phase until it's just the Greatwolf left.
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>>169956286
>SL17 in Irithyll
Most people are at least SL45-50 by the time they get to Pontiff.
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>>169956098
yea and you can get the dark soul by consuming 999,999,999 humanities, killing the lv.1000 True Chosen Undead invader in the abyss in dark souls 1 as a sl1, import the save to dark souls 3, fast travel to the abyss, kill the furtive pygmy without dying or drinking estus
fucking dumb PCuck, kill yourself
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>Give the Shrine Handmaid the shit-covered remnants of some obliterated hollow
>Gracious. Passing fine ash thou givest.
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>>169956514
Undead love poo because they can't go poop anymore
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>>169955405

2bats is more of a 2.5 fight rather than a full on 3 like Friede
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>>169956508
What the actual fuck anon
What did he say that had anything at all to do with cheating?
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>>169956608
>phase = healthbar
You're an idiot.
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>>169956654

I consider the health bar to be the Phase, yes.

A change of moveset means little.
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>>169956740
>A change of moveset means little.
It means a change in phase.
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>>169956645
when did i say anything about cheating?
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>>169956654
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>>169955861
Ah right thanks I never played DeS, just seen a lot of it, cultural osmosis and all that.

Still begs the question of why people are acting like this is a new and/or bad thing. I personally love all the multiple phase fights in core DaS3.
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>>169956645
He's saying you're lying through your teeth with an incredibly specific detail that people won't be able to replicate.

Honestly I don't think that's a third phase at all, it's probably a combo that's there in his second phase but again, is so hard to replicate people don't see it.
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I don't suppose anyone on PC would be willing to drop me the sunless armor set? I wanted to do a Sirris cosplay run and it always feels sacrilegious to kill the character I'm cosplaying for their gear. An estoc and the sunless talisman would be nice, but unnecessary.
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>>169957598
Let me check if I have it on any of my previous characters
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>>169957598
I could scum it for you. Where do you want to meet?
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>>169957720
Ok, thank you kindly.

>>169957804
What is skumming?
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>>169956456
So Im under leveled? I thought you just level up after every boss fight.
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>>169956591
If they don't poop then does that mean they all do it in the butt now? Gross.
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>>169957885
Backup my save file, give you the stuff, and restore my save so I don't lose it.

Where do you want the sign, and what pass?
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Wew

The last thread was the biggest shitshow I've seen in a while
Is it always that autistic when it comes to lore?
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>>169958038
Highwall and password is dsg. Feel free to kill me after for tongues and souls.
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>>169957885
>>169958114
Well since that Anon also was kind to offer my copies won't be needed I think. Good luck Anon.
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so according to PCucks
>Dark Souls 1 is not open world designed
>bosses have apparently 10 more phases than they actually have
>Oceiros is Seathe
>Pontiff Dogs are literally unkillable
>and various other asspulling stupid lore shit
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>>169958114
Don't need that shit, going to be scumming afterward anyways.

Sign is down. Don't have Estoc though since I have to pick up Greirat's Ashes at Archives still.
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>>169958217
What the fuck are they talking about?

t. PCuck
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>>169958309
Some ps4babby from /v/ who keeps trying to start console wars. Expect some nonsensical follow-up post consisting of some combination of "pcuck," "pcancer," and "ps4thealphas" shortly afterward.
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>>169958245
Thank you kindly sir/madam!

>>169958213
Thanks. I could use an estoc if you don't mind dropping one, but I can live without it for a bit. Same password/bonfire. If I see nothing after 10 minutes I just wait for my own later on.
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>>169958079
Yes, always.
Lorefags thrive on making things up in their head and then stubbornly whining and restating their side of a disagreement until the discussion dies down.

They aren't actually interested in advancing an argument in favour of their position. They just want to tell you the story they made up. Their lore "interpretation" is basically just fanfiction they lack the self-esteem to post in the appropriate place and dump here under the guise of an argument instead. They're just terribly afraid that nobody will pay attention to their ideas unless they make it into a faux-debate or shitpost with it.
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>>169958453
>strawman
how about you actually discuss the topic kid instead of shitposting?
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>>169958543
>>169958543
>>169958543
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>>169958473
The sign is down
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>>169958784
Blessings of the moon upon you stranger
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>>169958650
>tfw someone saved my dumb asspost
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>>169958543
Now sounds like the perfect time to tell you guys all about my theory about how Yhorm is the actual Firstborn and the Nameless King is actually Gwyn's GRANDSON!
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>>169959061
You know what, I'm actually kinda curious as to why you might think that, if you're not being facetious.
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>>169958543
Please don't accurately describe me like this.

The reality is though that when I come up with a lore theory, I shitpost the opposing side of it until someone dutifully intervenes and counters with their own shitposting, adding to my lorefodder until the theory is plausible enough to post to reddit. I can think of at least 3 theories that started here that crawled onto reddit because of this, and I've only been in these threads starting at the very end of DS1. Can't imagine how much shit Vaati stole and put in a neetbux vid.

The problem is what >>169958650 highlights. Doesn't matter -what- you're saying, people either don't care, think you're retarded for caring about the lore, or say you're retarded because they'd rather shitpost than actually discuss anything. You used to be able to just rile people up into finding evidence for you, but now it's just "le ur so dumb i cant believe u think that xD"
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>>169951371
>he's never died because Wolnir randomly swung his hand forward and brought you into the insta kill zone on the travel arc backwards
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>>169957001
Ah fuck, anon, I'm a retard. Sorry 'bout the misunderstanding.

>>169958079
It's always terribly autistic, everywhere. Some people love to go on the weirdest tangents and some people think theories are wrong for just being theories.
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>>169959168
I'm about 95% being facetious, but the last 5% are actually derived from me at one point noticing a couple things regarding known information on Yhorm that kind of reminded me of the figure of the firstborn.
I actually forgot what those points were though. It's really for the best.
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>>169959253
>used to be able to rile people into finding evidence for you

That existed before everyone was already immensely pissed off by people making total dogshit up and saying "prove me wrong". Good job. You ruined your own thing.
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>>169959253
>it was all me all along
You're just delusional, mate.
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>>169959620
wat

I think you read my post wrong

I wasn't in last thread, just was saying that's his post hit home

>>169959537
edgy
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>>169959253
On mobile[/spoiler[

DaS3 Knight, Ricard's Rapier, Blossom Kite Shield, Profaned Sun, Ring of Fapping to your waifu, Abyss Watchers, Yurt, Lothric Knights, Archstone of the Small King, Sunlight Warriors
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>>169951371
On my first playthrough there was a fight where he did nothing but crawl forward until my back was to the wall, then did the fog spit. It's rare, but sometimes he just kills you and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>169959740
Fog-spit has blindspots by his armbands. There's no failure-state for that fight that isn't you just being bad at videogames.
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>>169959740
Wolnir is also quite a bit harder if he decides to summon help straight away.
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>>169959484
That would have been pretty cool, though I much more enjoy my headcanon that Yhorm is the son of Wolnir.
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Anyone have tips on dealing with dogs in the dlc?
they just keep spinning around me outside my range and draining me of all my resources.
Using an ultra gs.
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>>169959832
Anyone fighting him for the first time has no reason to assume that would be the case with such an attack.
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>>169959832
There is? It sure doesn't fucking look like there is. Prove it.
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>>169959976
git gud

The wolf packs only attack if you get too close or attack one of them. Just walk around them in a wide berth and they'll leave you alone
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>>169960061
Peer-review involves testing things for yourself, anon. The fog-breath is a conical attack originating from his head. It doesn't hit behind him or to his immediate sides up close, and there's gaps between the coverage of his passive body-fog and the coverage of the fog breath as a result.

Or just refuse to believe it and continue being bad. No skin off my nose either way.
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>he's not wearing the archdeacon set while flipping around with the Farron memesword

Lmaoing at ur lyfe
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>>169959832
I'd sure have liked to have known this before. I've gone through the game what must be ten times, and I felt fucking embarrassed the first time I died to NK, yet at NG+++ when Wolnir just decides I'm dead, I just kinda shrug my shoulders because it's an RNG clusterfuck.
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>>169959976
If you have a +3 greatbow and put on Sword and Hawk Rings, you can one-shot them with a headshot before they aggro. May or may not require the WA for extra damage boost.

Otherwise, try to get close enough to one for it to attack, block with your shield, and then 2-shot it.

If you're fucked and dealing with the entire pack, just keep doing rolling attacks. Roll into them as they attack, and hit with sword while they recover. They should be stunned long enough for a follow-up R1 to finish the job.
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>>169959976
Smash the slightly bigger, darker one in each group. He's the only one that can howl, and thus call for help.
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>>169960164
>he didn't name his character the Flippin' Faith
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>>169960061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKRtKxKYJ8
There are a few times where he's breathing the fog, but it doesn't hit the players who are either near the armbands or are in one of the blind spots.
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>>169960350
>implying

Because you are correct
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>>169960487
>can't rename your characters
FROM PLEASE, YOU ONLY GAVE US TEN SLOTS
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Oh shit

The Loyce head armor is real
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>Use composite bow for co-op
>Boss won't drop aggro and keeps trying to kill me because I filled his body with arrows

Why the fuck did nobody tell me about how much fun this stupid weapon is?
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>>169960714
>not knowing what jousting gear is
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>>169960714
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Hello there.
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>>169961407
Your cosplay is missing the high ground
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>>169961407
Are you keeping Force equipped just for the pun? Because Emit Force would probably fit better
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>>169961407
hi
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>>169961407

i hate sand
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>>169958217

>Dark Souls 1 is not open world designed

And what's supposed to be wrong with that statement?
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>>169960448
Well, what do you know? Useful.
Thanks for giving an actual answer.
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>>169961494
I wait until my enemy has low health to run up a flight of stairs and welcome gesture

Sadly, no one has seemed to care so far
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>>169961853
Has any of them tried spinning yet?
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>>169961407
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE FIRE IS EVIL
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>>169961407
>>169961853
nice
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OK, let's do another one of these things.
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>your first attempt at a boss with a new build ends with him killing you at less than 5% health and each subsequent one gets worse and worse
This happens WAY too often.
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>>169962127
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>tfw no 3v3 tourneys
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>>169962223
I don't get that too often but it is annoying that my other builds in DS3 at least feel like I'm going through the game with a gimped melee quality build until I'm like SL 80+ and the other stuff starts to actually perform.
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>>169961904
No, they either run and heal or pace me 5 feet away and L1 spam the moment i start gesturing

Force and Emit Force are pretty fun once you learn how to hit people, though.

Would you consider Wrath of the Gods to break the cosplay?
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>SL 46 +6 weapon
>pre-pontiff Irithyll
>never getting invaded even with a dried finger on

Is this just a dead area compared to post-pontiff for invasions?
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>>169962397
If Wrath in 3 keeps the same effect from 1 as being just a powerful shockwave, I don't see why it would
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>>169958217
>Dark Souls 1 is not open world designed
Nonlinear and interconnected doesn't mean it's open world.
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>games have the Zweihander
>you can't use the cross guard and hilt as weapons
>you cant Mordhau enemies to death

Fromsoft what the fuck? Learn your German school of swordsmanship technique
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>>169962623
>using an entire Zweihander for mordhau
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>>169962623
>dark souls
>realistic
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>>169962623
It's a computer RPG, not a HEMA simulation.
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>>169962691
You can if you have proper rings
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>>169962623
What reason do I have to use mordhau when my zweihander is reinforced to godlike quality and I have superhuman strength
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>>169962623
>stance wa is literally halfswording
>both hands still glued to the hilt
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Goddamnit Lightning Stake is fun as hell to use on bosses.
It wasn't good against Dragonslayer Armor, but Pontiff, Aldrich, Oceiros, Gundyr and the Princes all make for really interesting fights. It's definitely the most fun I've been having with miracles across all three games.

Is Lightning Stake the best it get for close range damage, or does Sunlight Spear outclasses it? I'd expect it not to, seeing as it also can be used at range, but who knows.
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>>169960964
I spent hours drawing my character in D&D once. He wore a frogmouth helmet. My fucking DM starts talking about penalties to sight and shit. God, that pissed me off. D&D ain't fucking simulationist.

Anyway, I love frogmouth helms.
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>>169963663
Sunlight Spear does more damage at point blank but Stake consumes less, is better for baits, and has an after shock affect in case you miss the first half
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>>169963663
>has 2k souls
>hasn't picked up bloodstain
Don't tell me you don't know about the shortcut.
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>>169962127
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>pontiff
>not the best
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>>169963745
Huh, that's unexpected, but I didn't take into account that it could cost more. Thank you for the information Anon!

>>169963770
...actually now that you mention it, I have no idea whatsoever where those souls might have come from.

Although I did get a Darkmoon summon right before entering the boss room for one of the attempts, but I'm fairly sure it wasn't before this last one. But nothing else could have done it.
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>>169963663
too bad faith is shit in pvp
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>>169962127
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>>169963663
>I'd expect it not to, seeing as it also can be used at range
true, but at range it deals heavily reduced damage, it's basically a point blank spell as well. it's weird how all that "dragon hunting gear", including DS weapons, spells and some lothric knight weapons are terrible for long range. did they wait for the dragons to honorably come down to within range or something?
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>>169962127
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>>169964102
>liking pointy shoes: the outfit
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>>169963934
Literally Pinwheel, if Pinhweel had an ego and were capable of killing anything except a player whose controller broke as soon as he fell into the coffin.
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>>169963962
IIRC Sunlight Spear is flat out the most damaging spell but uses a lot of FP and has less opportune timing than Stake

That was also true in 1 as far as I remember, but replace FP with low casts and 2 slots.
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>>169964138
It's the best looking armor set in DS3 desu
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>>169964223
pointy shoes
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>>169962127
>Every single soulsborne game

Fucking stop this.
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>>169964129
>favorite armor set
>favorite weapon
Havel will know of this heresy
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>>169963884
Hot fucking damn Forlorn was fashionable.

When Forlorn got name dropped in the AoA trailer, I furiously masturbated. Miyazaki cucked me good.

Really wish it'd darken out your face with the shadow effect the forlorn have, though. At least if you equip the whole set.
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>>169964149
could pinwheel powerstance greatweapons?
did he get the best ass in the region?
>>169964257
do you really not know what sabbatons are?
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>>169964309
Nice try, I have a Hornet Ring
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>>169964138

The knight set? Really?
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>>169964425
>did he get the best ass in the region?
Depends, how bony do you like them?
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>reaching the end of my RtD run as a hexblade
Why the hell did I never do this until now? It's Dark Orb: The Game for most of it, but once you get a decent dark weapon to buff and the more fun hexes it's really fun.
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>>169962127
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>>169954638
Maria had 3 phases. DS3 fails to innovate at every point ;)
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>>169962127
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>>169964882
There is also celestial emissary, but most people kill him too quickly. The Shadows of Yharnam are also 3 phases, no head, snake head, snake summons. Rom is technically 3 phases. Blood Starved beast is also 3 phases, no poison, poison aura, lingering poison aura. I'm sure there is more that I'm not remembering.
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>>169964836
>salamander
what the fuck man, you were heading for a 9/10.
what's the symbol of the CoC supposed to be anyway?
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>>169965198
An arduous path
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JUST R8 MY SHIT UP, SENPAI
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>>169965130
disgusting absolute shit taste
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>>169965381
Bleeding/10
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>>169964836
Do you like the flame salamanders because of how broken they are or just the visual design?
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>>169965130
>set
>ring
>npc
>area
>covenant
disgusting

>>169965381
disgusting
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>Ds III gets Shiva the Desceased armor
>doesnt get Sir Allone's armor

From what the fuck
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>>169965514
I wish we had more straight swords as simple and cool looking as the fume sword.
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>>169964836
>that NPC picture
disgusting
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What's the meta pvp build in DKS3?
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>>169965625
Is there even a single instance among the dark souls titles where boss armor from one game showed up in another?
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>>169965514
>invade some poor sod
>mage fag
>backstabbu
>point down
>dies to hollow BSS spam
>firesurge her dead body
I usually don't blogspot but I wanted to say I'm off to a great start
>>169965592
Thank you. I wonder if I should add some chest armor
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I want to make a build focused around darkmoon blade. 60 faith and yorshkas chime seems a must, but how should I split the rest of my levels?

I was thinking with faith that high I may as well slap on sacred oath and/or great lightning spear/Lightning stake.

Note I'm a pve guy so I don't particularly care for effectiveness in arena/duel but rather getting the most out of this as I can.
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>>169965743
Well theres Biggs and Wedge
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>>169965743
>what is smoughs armor
>what is artorias armor
geee, dunno
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>>169965816
>>169965830
Well shit, I keep forgetting that those sets even appear in DS3.
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Why didn't they treat buffing elemental weapons the same as they did in DS2 for DS3?

Being able to buff an infused weapon with the same element makes the infusions actually useful rather than slapping raw and lightning blade or whatever buff on instead.
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>>169965657
Honestly, everything in that image is stuff I wish was in 3.
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>>169965885
I don't know, Artorias and Ornstein's sets are pretty common fodder
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>>169966037
I never see anyone wearing them. Not even exaggerating, like 75% of the people I encounter in co-op and invasions are wearing fallen knight.
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>>169965198
CoC is the PVE difficulty covenant. I was never huge about the online aspect of the games, I mostly just get my rewards and bail.
>>169965579
Yeah I just like salamanders, I had a pet gecko once. I figure the flame salamanders would make a pretty good mount if you could tame one. Basilisks comes in close second though.
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Choose 1 boss from each game that shows its combat system working well.

DeS
The Penetrator
DS1
4 kings
DS2
Smelter
Ds3
Champion Gundyr
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>>169966140
Artorias and Ornstein's sets are endgame sets. You can get fallen knight in 20 minutes and 2 bosses if you're half-decent. It looks kind of edgy too, so that probably plays a role. I wore it for a while on my first character, now I wear firekeeper until I get the Black Hand armor.
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>>169966226
Penetrator
Artorias
Fume Knight
Abyss Watchers
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>>169966226
>DSI
Belfry Gargoyles

>Dark Souls 2
Fume Knight

>Dark Souls 3
Pontiff Sulyvahn
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what do people like about the Sir Alonne boss fight?
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>>169966431
clean floors
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>>169966226
>Penetrator
you mean the boss you stunlock to death with most of the weapons in the game?
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>>169966431
The location is beautiful, the music is good, the boss itself has a nice design and its attack patterns are satisfying to dodge through.

It's just a very well crafted setpiece boss battle that's soiled by the level that precedes it
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>>169966431
I like it because it has great music, great visuals and Alonne himself is a very aggressive boss that will punish you pretty hard if you fuck up and have to heal. Also the commit sudoku part if you kill him flawlessly is a nice touch.
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Is the whole Ds2 revisit thing over already? I'm back to no summons. Or is 600k to high for iron keep?
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>>169966578
Try drangleic castle
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>>169966535
Am I seeing it wrong, or are you headbutting the boss to death?
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>>169966226
>4 kings
>dps grind


???
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>>169962127
How anybody can choose a different covenant besides the only one that ever worked flawlessly is beyond me.
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>>169966642
yes
unarmed / fist shove (kick) is a headbutt in DeS
kicks in DeS applied status effects and buff damage of your right hand weapon
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>>169966642
das2babbies everyone
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>>169965743
Beyond Ornstein, Smough and Artorias as mentioned, there is also Havel's (also technically Alva and Mirrah sets too, since the gank squad is technically a boss).
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>>169966626
I haven't even killed an old one yet.

>>169966642
DeS is a wonderful game.
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>>169966908
It's not boss armor though, you dork. That's like saying prisoner's tatters are boss armor because the congregation's crawlers wear them
>>169966985
>600k
>no great souls yet
What the fuck are you doing? Did you save the big 4 for last?
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>>169967207
Basically, yeah. They've got nothing I need yet.
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>>169966735
Viable both on a fast rolling build or a havel monster.

Enough openings to be able to use slow ranged magic attacks and heavy hitting ultra weapons.

But not enough that with a fast weapon the fight becomes trivialised.

This is in contrast with say gwyn who if you fight without cheesing can be tricky to find time to cast spells in. Again yes I'm aware that dark bead destroys him but that's not the point.
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>>169965794
Someone pls.
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>>169967574
Just get sunlight spear, stake, and lightning storm and you're set. Sacred oath is fine but for pve you would be just as good saving a slot and using deep protection. Your other points should be invested in whatever the scaling is for your weapon of choice and health
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Is Bamco going to release the DLC early on Xbone or to streamniggers again? It's practically tradition now.
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>>169967574
I'd say just enough str and dex to get a raw weapon you like and 40 vig, with the rest in vit, end, and att to levels you're comfortable with
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>>169966804

It was the only covenant that was worth being part of in DS1. Which isn't saying much, but never has there been such a clear winner.
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>>169968340
Dmb was good too, but only for the buff. Buy 99 orbs from kaathe, kill 3 million crows, get 80 ears to gwyndolin, invade/duel with full power dmb
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>the penetrator
>ceaseless discharge

Who else we got?
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>>169968613
Sadly enough, those are the nicknames for my dick and ass.
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>>169962623
>>169962623
HEMAfaggots please leave

>>169965381
I forgot how cozy the Painted World's lighting was.
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>>169968485
>Dmb good
it didnt work because invaders didnt sit idle in their own world but were constantly invading.

the perfect souls pvp system would've been reds having the DS1 invasion system and blues invading either the world of a sinner, who sins simply by killing a host, or invade the world of an innocent host who is already being invaded by a sinner.
obviously from soft never managed to do this and gave us the garbage we got in DS2.
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>>169964836
>>169965198
>>169966212
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Would this basic bitch faith build work okay?
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>>169967693
They didn't release it early on steam.

Streamers who had pre release copies of the game, press copies basically could access the dlc early presumably for promotional reasons.

Which is different to the xbone thing which was available to everyone.
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What do you guys think Sulyvahn said to Gwyndolin right before he fed him to Aldrich?
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>>169969586
goodnight sweet prince
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>>169969225

If they hadn't done the cracked red eyes/SM thing in DS2 the blood bros/blueberry rivalry would've been alive, chaotic and perfect.
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>>169969586

if i can't have that boipucci no one can
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>>169969225
did you read the post or nah?
>>169969351
>fai
>work
lmao. btw, you need a talisman for the lightning, for the hyperarmor
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>>169969351

Should work fine but I'd consider a faster melee weapon. Darkmoon blade and other buffs don't have a percentage damage increase, it's a flat one defined by your spell buff stat, therefore you get more bang for your buff with weapons that can do high levels of burst damage, for example the sellsword twinblades, as their weapon art allows for 4 hits in quick succession, all of which have their damage increased by the buff. The R1-L2-R2 pseudo combo of some spears (partizan) are also good
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>>169969819
How well would a straight sword like the lothric knight or sunlight straight sword do with darkmoom blade? I'm hoping that 1 handed the speed will be enough to warrant dkmb.
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>>169962127
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>>169969351
ah yes the faith build with enough FP to cast a miracle twice
very effective
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>Darkwraiths on NG++
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>>169962623
>in a game where people dualwield scythes THIS is your issue
lmao
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>>169970408
>Shrine of Amana on NG+
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>Aldrich turned into sludge from overeating

Memezaki what the fuck
>>
>>169954638
There were bosses with second phases in all of the games, and Bloodborne already had 3-phase bossfights like BSB.

Although I dunno if DeS really had proper second phases for bosses since the only one I can really think of are Storm King, Maneaters and Dragon God.

But DaS1 had bosses that gain new attacks in the second phase like Artorias and Manus.
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>>169971042
Even in the base game O&S is a two phase fight.
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>>169955019
>it's only DS3 that pulls a second or third healthbar out of it's ass
Witch of Hemwick.
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>>169970858
>poison arrows
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>>169971210

Is that weapon the soul-stealing thing? I don't think I ever even picked it up.
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>>169966431
he's cool, his arena is cool, and his moveset is fun, what more can you really ask for out of a boss?
besides a preceding level that isn't fucking terrible
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>>169966226
DeS :
Allant

DaS : Gwyn

DaS2 : Pursuer

DaS3 : Champ

Bloodborne : Orphan
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>>169971397
Needle of Eternal Agony
>10 phys / 50 magic base damage
>0 scaling, as in actually nothing
>cannot be upgraded
>cannot be buffed unlike geri's stiletto, which is a vastly superior version of it
>is a rapier
>entire point of the weapon is that it gives you souls on hit
>it gives you 20
>it is the ONLY use for the maneater soul, a boss many struggle with

It is the absolute worst
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Are the Loyce knights the biggest bros or what?
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>~25 days till TRC
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>>169971210
>talking shit about fluted

nigga u best square up
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>>169971642
I'd argue the drake knights are pretty chill. Even if you try and kill or hell even succeed in killing the ancient dragon they don't attack.
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>>169969795
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>>169971730
fluted is the worst
worst poster knight
dumbest helm
worst proportions
gaping seams into nothing on the back
lowest textures
dullest and drabbest colors, no reflections, no shine
looks nothing like the CG cutscene

yet it's fellated constantly simply because it was the first thing babbs saw of Souls
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>>169971815
>wog
>impossible to midroll through
lucy please leave
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>>169970978
It's better than DaS2's result from over eating.
>>
>>169971815

oh c'mon man, the worst souls MLGS is the DeS one. it's just a claymore that phases through shields in that game.
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>>169972182
And, don't forget
>less AR than a katana
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>>169972182
1) i really like the clay
2) 2 butchered the mlgs imo
3) i haven't played des
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>>169972182
I'd argue that the DaS3 one is simply because of the missed opportunity. Weapon arts were MADE for MLGS beams, but instead they still consume durability and you just get a copypasted set from another weapon instead. Such a missed opportunity.

DeS was boring, but it also had low expectations.
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>>169972096
i had totally forgotten about ol covy until you mentioned him tbqh
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>>169951223
He felt like an optional boss fight, yeah.
>>
Just purchased DaS3 and SotFS this week on PC, had a crash at Road of Sacrifices after killing a corvian.

Game's been running at a seemless 60fps with no problems up to this point, so I don't think it's performance related. Are there a lot of instances of this around that area of the game, or is this a "works fine for me :^)" kind of thing...
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>>169972589
Dark Souls has some really screwy optimization at points. My game typically runs at about 60 fps, depending on the area, but I've got some crashes at times, and I drop frames like mad if I'm doing any online stuff. Same thing in DaS2, oddly, which runs at 60fps at all times otherwise. Even odder is the fact that I can summon and be summoned, despite the frame drops, but I've never been invaded - every invader immediately leaves, not sure why.
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>>169962127
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>>169965701

SL120 quality, 40 each in your Vig/End/Str/Dex stats.
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>>169965701
>>169972738
125 is the meta, with the extra points typically going into Vig.
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>beat the dancer after Vordt
>can't beat Crystal Sage
Well this is new.
>>
>>169972738
>>169972808
>going above 80

You and your "builds" disgust me.
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>>169972939
>80

anri's sword meta?
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>>169972939
>going above 50 to 55
Shitter.

125, exactly, is for 1v1 meta duels. 50 to 55 (or lower) is for invading. Level 80 is a crappy meme.
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>>169973037
>leveling up at all
wow what a casul
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>>169972939
>80
Ah the 27 vitmeme Quality meta
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>>169973121
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>>169973314
>hunter and knight rings when you're already at 40/40
Not even meming you Lucy: why?
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>>169973314
>not going 35/35 and putting the extra 10 into vit
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>>169973374
Oh the ironing
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>>169973314
your point?
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>>169973540
There is zero reason to use anything other than Quality at level 80, which is beautifully ironic since 80 memers constantly used the "get away from quality builds" argument as their main defense of their meme meta.
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>>169973616
at lower levels, mages can max their damage. they'll be frags, but will be able to instagib anyone. increasing the levels only allows the mage to get more hp, maybe a backup weapon, it doesn't help them kill shit better. at lower level, single stat builds have all their shit softcapped while quality has to choose between maximizing damage and dying in 3 hits
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>>169973792
At 125 you can play an effective pyro without severely gimping your damage or leaving yourself in one shot territory.
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>>169973792
Wich is why i liked the idea of the 100 meta, it was a bit of an in-between with casters hitting softcaps while having to sacrifice HP but without going sub-27 Vit. Meanwhile single-stat melee builds and quality would hit sofcaps but it isnt in the hybrid luck/faith territory yet
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>>169973886
yeah, yeah, go ahead and post your 2 spell, 3 weapon """pyromancer"""
pyro can be effective in other levels too because pyro is fucking strong and doesn't have to rely on oneshotting
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>finally decide to run a proper polearm character
>tentatively rolling quality, grab the Lucerne, and then RHH and swapping between the two to figure out which one I like more

On the one hand, RHH's thrusts are quicker and more forgiving, but on the other hand I fucking love the Lucerne's moveset and looks, even though I'm having trouble learning to avoid trades. I'm probably going to end up working with both off and on, but aside from the obvious Gundy and Burger King halberds, is there a better halberd/spear I should hold out for? Already got the Lothric longspear, but honestly I'm not feeling it.
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>>169974358
Just you wait for Gundyrs halberd
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>>169974358
I hear RHH's perseverance makes it rather OP, but I'm a dexfag so I can't confirm it myself.
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>>169974358
>avoid trades
why? is that a HA thing? because iirc the Lucerne relies on counter hits. can't you use more armor? you have leo, right?
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>>169974358
BK Glaive has good damage but its the poster boy for passive glaive shittery. Gundyr's is better in that regard+if you can hit with the WA you get some good damage

>>169974495
Against shitters yes, a good player will block or parry since most people just pop perseverance and R1 away
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If from wanted to encourage build variety why didn't they add an infusion that adds physical damage that scales with your int and/or faith? Or alternatively have stuff like lightning infusions remove nearly all the physical and instead have a much bigger lightning damage?

This is one thing DS2 did so much better. Plus being able to buff a weapon with the same element it's infused with means we'd have lightning infusion with lightning blade or chaos with carthus flame arc rather than just raw with buff.
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Do you ever get a host so stupid you just wanna disconnect? I swear to god, I had to call this one multiple times just to push levers, he kept rushing into enemies, took 7 times to learn he didn't have to roll into the stairs and jump to get the crossbow. I even gave him a seed when an invader got into the world and he didn't just not use it, but even aggroed the gargoyle in the area. By then I just gave up and stayed to watch him die.
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>>169974692
>trying to make people seed invaders

You sound like a gigantic faggot.
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>>169974520
just hitting road of sacrifices, anon. I haven't played 3 (or souls in general) in months.
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>>169974692
I've never tried helping people go through a level but in terms of boss co-op I saw a lot of funny shit while helping people with Yhorm.
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Best Staff at 40 INT in DS3?
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Is the damage output decent for Gundyrs Halberd with just 40 strength and minimum dex?
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Which area gives you conniptions?
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>>169974740
I normally wouldn't do that to an invader, but
1.- This host was an idiot
2.- I wasn't fighting and he still hid himself behind an enemy instead of fighting the host 1 vs 1.
>>169974773
What kind of stuff. I swear if I didn't need the souls I'd just leave my sign on boss doors, but going through the level gives way more souls.
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>>169974802
I think its Heretic Staff
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So what are the chances FROM will pull a SotFS on DaS3 after the last dlc comes out? Will you be a good cuck and pay for it again?
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>>169974828
It is, don't listen to quality memers.
>>169974910
Correct
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>>169974990
0. They aren't gonna do it. The fire fades is my proof. It's just a bundle. They wouldn't go DS3, dlc 1 and 2, bundle then second bundle.
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>>169974859
Nothing that special, just people that couldn't seem to dodge any of his attacks. Or just hosts that would run in and get destroyed when they really could just sit back and watch the two stormruler wielding phantoms annihilate Yhorm.
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>>169975125
What if fire fades adds extra content, not found outside of the bundle?
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>>169974831
That whole area full of milwood knights when I'm hitting the dlc at SL 50 or something.
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>>169975140
>run to stormruler and point down
>yell HEY repeatedly
>host just dodging around yhorn smacking his toes
>watch as he gets fucking destroyed

Some people really make me wonder how they managed to live until this point in their lives.
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>Glaives and greatswords still have hyperarmor
Just fuck my balance up senpai
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>>169974990
for the millionth time
sotfs was a rerelease for dx11/ps4/xbone
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>>169975140
>>169975219
That's exactly how I felt, maybe they just had phantoms do everything for them all the way through.
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>>169974910
>>169975091
Thanks magic friends.
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>>169975173
SOTFS was a completely different situation anon. Trust me, they aren't going to do it.

If you still don't believe me wait a month after the ringed city releases and you'll see whether they add anything or not.
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>>169965794
How are you gonna get darkmoon blade in the first place?
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>>169975371
Already have it.
>>169967692
>>169967762
Hmm cool.
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>>169975437
Did you farm silver knights or get it from blue summons?
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>>169973986
>2 spell
You don't even play the game, do you?
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>>169975547
2 spells. CBV and GCFO. because for some reason you thought that if you only have 2 spells, you should have both of those
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>>169975479
Both. I had the power of /dsg/s shitposting fuelling me.

I need to get it on a second new character so I'm thinking I'll hang around undead settlement at sl20ish with a +1 weapon. Most people are roughly that stage sfter reaching emma and getting way of blue so I should have better chances than the attempt at sl120.

Plus watchdogs seem plentiful. I always get invaded by one. They all suck for some reason.
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>>169975676
Like I said, you don't even play the game. You aren't locked into spell choices like you are with stats. You can literally swap spells at any bonfire.
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>>169975747
yeah, but you have to go to the bonfire for that. meaning you can't swap spells while dueling.
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>>169975676
Anon I beg you, pls stop proving Luci right here, he shouldn't ever be right
Black serpent and fire surge are also mandatory, black flame and iron flesh are arguably useful, and you can make both fire whip and boulder heave work
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>>169975829
>luci
>right
fuck off luci. read the posts next time
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>>169975829
>Luci
>L capitalized

Put your trip back on you pathetic samefag
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>>169975803
No shit, Sherlock. The point is you can swap to whatever is most effective in the current meta. There are more than just two slots in that build too. The two that I list in the build were only chosen as examples since they were both considered OP at the time and are all you really need for PvE.
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>ever responding to the resident tripfag shitposter
I will never understand this.
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>>169975730
I've been hanging around undead settlement, woods, and the cathedral of the deep for the past few days on a lvl 20-30 character and the summon rates are still terrible
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>>169975940
No, the point is that your "pyromancer" is not a pyromancer and you have literally no idea what you're doing
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>>169975949
Calling me a shit poster won't magically make you right and me wrong. I have been around since DeS and been using a trip since basically DaS1's launch. I have been wrong once in that time.

>>169976035
>starts as pyromancy
>can use any pyromancies
>40/40 int and fai
>pyro boosting rings

>not a pyro
KEK
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>>169975991
Trying to get a Pale Tongue early for Leonhardt is literal pain.

>Failed to connect to instance. Could not invade

thanks miya again
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>he thinks everyone without a trip is the same person
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>>169976137
Just rush to the Demon area in the settlement m8, takes minutes.
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>>169969795
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>>169976134
>uses more weapons than spells
>pyro
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>>169976278
>He doesn't know that Pyros are basically the Red Mages of the game.
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Daily reminder TRC will need to add 50 weapons to catch up to SotFS
It won't
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So I got a question now that I've fought Champion Gundyr and Nameless King

I noticed they both use the exact same Stomp attack, only NK's is electric.

Call me paranoid or looking for things that aren't there, but knowing Miziyaki, does this mean anything? Them sharing the exact same attack in every little detail seems a bit noticeable now that I think about it.
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>>169976253
Where the fuck is it again? It's been ages since I played this game.
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>>169976427
DaS2 had like 10 weapons. Everything else was basically just a carbon copy of another weapon just with better stats.
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>>169976409
>he doesn't realise he has no idea what he's talking about
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>>169976465
Sounds more like reused assets to me

Hell the Kang reminds me of Gundyr. Just strip the armor for some. Gay ass robe
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>>169976427
Yeah, I really want every weapon to have 3 identical versions that are found later in the game and are better in every single way.
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>>169976476
Elevator with onion, roll before going completely up and you'll find the area. The tongue is in one of the hanging corpses after the demon. next to the building.
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>>169970005

I rate the lothric knight straight sword personally, but use it to take advantage of its crit modifier and thrusting attacks (leo+hornet) more than any buff. In any case it's fast with okay range and a good moveset
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>>169976640
That area, thanks, I remember now. I was wondering why Settlement was feeling very short this playthrough.
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So why does every ugs uses the same WA?
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Why the fuck do straight swords swing practically as fast as daggers, only dealing far more damage, have more range and deal more poise damage?

what the fuck Miyazaki?
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>>169976716
It' s my fave area just cause of the large club, I'm a bit of a hammer bitch.
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>>169976780
Don't forget they've been nerfed numerous times
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>>169976780
daggers are only for quistepping and crits
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>>169976780
I wouldn't be surprised if the framework for straight swords is copied directly from bloodbornes saw cleaver.
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>>169976771
Astora UGS has that charge move?

>>169976834
Hammers have always been underrated IMO, except in two but that was mostly Mace/Crafstman's Hammer.

I'm currently maining Bandit Knife. It's surprisingly fun if you don't get caught up in R1 spam so you get hit.
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>>169976916
Say that to my invisible corvian greatknife
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>>169977019
cgk is basically a shortsword though, isn't it?
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>>169976987
Maybe I should try something with a dagger next time. I've already done my stereotype builds and I'm finishing my enemy builds, but I haven't used a dagger so far in any.
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>>169976771
Every weapon class has like 75% of the exact same WA's with an exception with a WA spread across another weapon class and at least one with some actual unique WA.
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>5 games in
>still a max of 10 characters

WHY.
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>>169976409
Of DaS1, yes.
Of DaS3, no.
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>>169977134
Because people that even make more than one character are in an extremely small minority among the vast number of people that play these games.
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>>169977062
>poison infused
Why?
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>>169976780
>Why the fuck do straight swords swing practically as fast as daggers
Straight swords are the slowest 'fast' weapon class, and as a result they're easy to react to, outspace, or enforce trades with. Just because weapon classes like UGS or CGS are unusably slow in comparison doesn't mean there isn't a gulf between straight swords or curved swords, or curved swords and daggers.
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>>169976780
>weapons historically designed for dueling
>good for dueling
really fires up the neurons
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>>169977062
Bleed Bandit knife is pretty fucking funny.

If you can stand sorcery, this is what I'm building toward at the moment:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/149878

It's fun so far, though sorc is a nasty start. Had a few silly deaths to stuff.
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>>169977184
Infested Barbarian cosplay, that's why I have boulder heave and Dung pies too.
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>>169977286
So why isn't the rapier the best weapon in every souls game by this retarded logic
straight swords aren't just good for dueling in 3, they're the best at everything.
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>>169977359
Rapier is one of the best weapons in every souls game.
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>>169977157
>he doesn't know what a Red Mage is either
I am not even surprised at this point.
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>>169977290
2 Of my stereotypes were sorcerers, M'lady and Some of u are ok. So I can more than stand it.
In order those builds were: Sorcery, Pyromancy, Faith, Bleed, Tank, Scythes + Dark Sorcery, Animal Weapons + Dragon Stones & Dark hand + Dark Pyromancy.
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>>169977359
pretty sure the estoc is. which by the way works more like a rapier than a rapier does
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So I just picked up an ice rapier in crown of the ivory king and uh, someone tell me this weapon isn't as good as it appears to be because it's amazingly good.

The range for one is that of a long sword and is it me or does the second r1 do more damage than the first by a fair amount?
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>>169977062
Why not cosplay a DS2 Forest Guardian with a dagger, Obscuring Ring, and Hidden Body?
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>>169977515
This, I still don't get it why estoc, which is pretty much a dull long arming sword with a point has a slashing attack, but rapier doesn't.
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>>169977571
That was actually gonna be my last enemy cosplay, I wanted to move on since even tho I enjoyed them, they weren't as creative as my stereotype ones, and I wanna go back to doing something like that, idk what the theme will be yet tho.
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>>169976780
>practically as fast as daggers

You're reaching really, really hard there.

Stance is also garbage compared to quickstep or blindside, and daggers have crit multipliers across the board.

They also weigh less, and make for better single stat weapons, but that means less these days.

You're a plonker if you think the Corvian Greatknife isn't super good.
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>>169977928
bandit knife stronk
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>>169977359
>So why isn't the rapier the best weapon in every souls game
it is
estoc even more so
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>>169977928
>Corvian Greatknife
this thing is amazing

I'm surprised hardly anyone uses it
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How do you fashion souls with Swordspear? I find anything that isn't Dragonscale, Dragonslayer, or Sunset armor clashes too much, and most of that gear is too heavy for knight base vit even with RoF. Certain robes look nice but I need phys and slash resist
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>>169979091
>Certain robes look nice but I need phys and slash resist
% resistances aren't that important, go for it. better yet post some ss and be judged
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>>169979091
Wear a mix of Archdeacon and Favor sets.
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>only gain 5%-15% damage resistance with the heaviest armor in DaS3
is this the same in the previous souls entries?
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>>169950152
is there a guideline for when to powerstance with regards to the weapon's upgrade level? if I have a +8 weapon and a +4 of the same weapon, would I be better off 1-handing the +8? This is for DS2 if it matters.
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REEEE WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T FROM MAKE AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS YOU YO FIGHT A BOSS AGAIN, AFTER COMPLETING THE WHOLE GAME.


In all seriousness thought, why? If I want to fight Sully again, because I thought it was a fun fight, why the fuck do I have to make a new character every time?? They could easily just have made your character scale down for each individual fight or some shit.
Yes it doesn't take a lot of time to speed run though areas, but I still feel like they could have done us this fucking service, with the last game.
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>>169979915
>NG cycles
>white soapstone
anon wot r u doing
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>>169977452
Why the fuck do you always post your shitty cosplays/builds in EVERY FUCKING THREAD

We get it you are one of those fucking autsists who likes to cosplay, now fuck off
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>>169979893
also, if I have specific weapons in mind for powerstancing, should I try to upgrade them relatively evenly or should I max one out first while keeping the other at the previous tier (+10 and a +7, +7 and a +4, etc)?
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>>169980000
But anon I want to fight them alone, not with some host. It makes the fights too easy, and not the same at all.

Nice get btw
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>>169979893
yes, powerstancing rarely is better than just 2handing your weapon. even if both the weapons are at the same upgrade levels. certain weapons unlock special moves when powerstanced (like majestic greatsword) or can bypass a certain weakness of the weapon, like helixadon. it can also show the "true" moveset of a weapon, like with any fist weapons and most prominently bonefist.
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>>169979915
they literally did though. it's called higher ng cycles. only, instead of downscaling you, they upscale the bosses, which is effectively the same thing
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>>169980157
Bosses get stronger when host summons tho. I agree it's not the same as fighting solo but still
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>>169979893
Make a strength build that can powerstance demon greathammers
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>>169979915
>>169979915
CHEAT

ENGINE

Resetting a boss doesn't even trip the detection.
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>>169980575
>they literally did though
But they didnt you retard, and its not at all the same as what I requested in the post, so fuck off
>You still have to run through the mandatory areas instead of just being able to fight any boss any time.
You can only fight them one time solo, in each cycle, unless you die on purpose and reset the fight.
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DaS2 > DeS > DaS1=BB > DaS3
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>>169980575
Let me tell you fuckboy, fighting bosses on NG+7 at arbitrarily high SL is not even remotely the same thing as fighting them on your original run.
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>>169981072
Remember anon, pacman eats the GREATER quantity.
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>>169981072
>mfw reading this list
But hey, that's just like your opinion man.
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>>169981073
then don't level to sl700? i really don't see your point, you can reach max level before vordt if you want to be an autist about it
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>>169981637
>then don't level to sl700? i really don't see your point, you can reach max level before vordt if you want to be an autist about it

Not him, but then your whole fucking arguement falls to the ground then

>jump into new game cycles, if you want to kill a boss again
>not the same shit at fighting them on a normal ng cycle
>b-but then dont level up and go into a new game cycle

What the fuck are we supossed to do then
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>>169950905
Too bad he's a gimmick boss that can be finished in 10 seconds.
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>>169981940
>stutterposting
that only makes you look like a faggot, son. if you want to fight the bosses again, you can simply go to higher ngs. souls has this thing where you are allowed to set your own difficulty by leveling or not. if you think later ngs are too easy because you have leveled up a bunch, you can simply not level up. noone is forcing you to level up and with no soul memory, you don't fuck yourself over by not using every last soul you have
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>>169981940
cheat engine
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>>169950905
i just can't get the idea that you're actually shrinking to fight a tiny wolnir inside the skull chalice out of my head
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Why do people gank in the Aldrich Faithful area? I just don't get it, must be such a huge waste of time since you get nothing but a pittance of souls per kill.
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>>169982461
>he thinks pvp/ganking/invading is about souls
u new?
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>playing pyro in DS3
>realize that raw ASS + flame arc outdamages any weapon with Chaos infusion and buffs are so cheap this time around that there's no reason to not use it
I'm sure that there are Assassin's Creed games with more weapon variety than this....
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>>169961524
You idiot, you got it wrong.
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>>169982576
Just wait till you hit 40/40 and use a Dark-infused Longsword
Flame Arc is just a waste of a spell slot at that point
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>>169982550
So what is it then? Feeling superior to someone because you beat them in a 2v1? I just don't get it, seems like a waste of time to me. If I wanted to feel awesome and powerful I'd go play Assassin's Creed or some shit.
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>>169982893
it's making people mad.
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>>169982576
>not succumbing to the meta and using onyx blade
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>>169982893
Babe, you get covenant rewards for killing hosts as an Aldrich Faithful. It's the same as Farron Watchdogs at Farron Keep.
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>>169982893
Some people have this power trip thing where they honestly believe themselves to be superior because they beat a single red with their 2 friends/Beat a lone host with an invader buddy. Just accept it and move on. The constant stream of invaders is why i just rush to Londo to be honest. Dont feel like getting invaded every time i set foot out of the bonfire room when i cant get invaded anywhere else because people are too busy being autistic in the 1v1 Arena
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>>169982893
I do it to make people mad enough to shitpost on a Mongolian shadow puppet symposium.
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Is the stone armour set good enough? Considering I killed andre?
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>>169982990
>>169983175
>>169983237
Eh, it doesn't even make me mad any more, it just seems like such a waste of time.

I can go and spout some shit on /v/ that makes people mad and get instant reactions I can see. Why don't they go to whatever forum and do that, instead of trying to make people mad in a game where a) people are used to deaths/ganking and b) you can't even see their reactions?

>>169983167
Wut. I'm talking about Hosts ganking Aldrichs.
>dat reading comprehension tho
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>>169983306
>Killed Andre
WHY
Also, there's another smith below Firelink in New Londo
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>>169983306
it has high defences and can be a lot of help if you also want to kill oswald
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>>169965130
>>169970278
Good tastes in spells, wish it wasn't so shit in 3.
>>169964129
Do you know the sacred flame combo?
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>>169983397
>kill oswald
What could you possibly gain?
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>>169983408
>Do you know the sacred flame combo?
Which one?
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>>169983397
I already killed Oswald.

>>169983372
Okay, but the armour he sells can be upgraded with twinkling right?
All I can use is twinkling titanite.
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Redpill me on backstabs /dsg/, why some people seem to be able to connect them so easily in DKS3, whereas I have so much difficulty getting them right on pvp?
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>>169982893
>>169983325
Unless you're invading at high soul levels, 90% of the 'ganks' you're encountering are people that want 2v2 or 3v3 pvp in an uncontrolled environment. Next time you invade a group in Farron Keep or Anor Londo go run off until another phantom comes, you'll have a lot more fun.
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>>169983476
baiting anons like >>169983372
dude's been at it for a week and retards STILL fall for it.
see >>169983537
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>>169983484
There's more than one? I only know of lightning stake into SF.
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>>169983306
Why the fuck did you killed Andre? I thought it was common knowledge that attacking NPCs, especially blacksmiths, in souls games was counterproductive
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>>169983325
>>dat reading comprehension tho
You literally just asked "why do people gank in the area?" Given that 9 times out of 10 the ganking is being done by the 2 or 3 invaders, I assumed that's what you meant.

Inversely, hosts and phantoms gank because being killed by invaders when you're trying to progress an area where you're already outnumbered by deacons, giants, silver knights, and crocodogs is a pain in the ass.
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>>169982576
Dark weapons are better. I use a dark handaxe.
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I bet you'all faggots don't even kill Patches
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>>169983734
CRAAAWWWLIIING IIINNN MYYY SKIIIIINN
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>>169983771
Which time?
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>On SL 165 character meant for 100% run in Catacombs
>Get invaded somehow
>A fucking DARKMOON gets summoned somehow
>Dorkmoon dies in 2 seconds
>He spams point down
>Proceed to completely wreck the invader, dont get hit a single time and run him out of estus
>Duel bow

I honestly was expecting a much higher caliber of player at this soul level, maybe most good players just stay at 120 or some shit? Because this guy was using an UGS and playing like a fucking subhuman.
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>>169983810
There's quite a few katanafags in this thread that would make better use of that autism. What's edgy about a handaxe?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oIi8a07Ac
>>169983771
patches is a true bro. only butthurt casuals who can't take a joke kill him
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>>169983771
>Murdering an innocent man
Why?
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>>169983623
>>169983476
>>169983372
instead of asking me why i killed andre and oswald, just give me advice please.
Is the stone armour set good in the lategame or do I replace it?

>>169983579
well faggot you've been insulting me all week and now I'm level 62 with a black knights sword so no need for me to restart
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I need some help with the Flamelurker boss in Demon's Souls.

I have a +6 Boardsword, and a +5 Winged Spear. I only do 85dmg per hit in this fucker. I would love to be able to do more damage to him. Currently SL 31, so swapping to a magic char isn't gonna happen. I don't have near enough STR to wield the flame-res shield.

Perhaps there's a magic-based melee weapon somewhere I'm missing? I just wish I could do more than this chip damage to him.
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>>169983991
>>169984005
>russian scam artist
>innocent
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Lülülü Loide!
http://www.lachschon.de/forum/post/show/1104055/
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>>169984039
Why the fuck should they tell you anything when you don't even have the decency to answer them? Use google you piece of shit and fuck off.
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>>169984039
Its decent enough

>>169984067
The crescent falchion from 4-1?
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>>169984039
First, why did you kill Andre and Oswald? I bet you killed Laurentius and Domhnall, too.
The set offers great physical and elemental resistance, and poise, but gets outclassed after Anor Londo, and can't be upgraded.
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>>169984039
I did help you the first 2 times you asked. If you're still asking you're either retarded beyond help or just b8ing
>>169984116
>he can't take a joke
i guess you really needed those 200 souls you lost. poor thing, how will you ever recover?
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>>169983975
I was cracking wise at your choice of dark weapons. Handaxes are bro tier
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>>169984172
>The crescent falchion

is that a magic-based weapon? I see that it causes bleeding, but unsure about any magic properties.
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>>169984213
Hes been posting this in nearly every thread for a week+, its baitposting at this point.
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>>169984257
Ah i confused Crescent path with Moon path, i dunno if there's a weapon with that path already on it as treasure unfortunately.
Crescent is the MP regen path, apologies
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>>169984257
>>169984427
After going to the wiki, turns out there's a Moon Shortsword+1 in 3-2. Hope that helps
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>>169984254
it's just an infusion, m8. the optimal infusion for pyromancers to be exact
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Someone stole that hex dude's find.

https://youtu.be/0GQrpgnFTmM?t=196
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>>169984401
Why are the Shaded Woods so fucking ugly? They do not belong in a 2014 game.
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>>169984554
That's been part of the standard speedrun route for months now, it's old news
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>>169984067
Fuck, this boss feels more difficult than it should be. He saps stamina, breaks guard fully, slashes fast, moves fast, and now I'm seeing the earliest weapon to use against him isn't found til 3-2? Do you HAVE to be a mage to fight him? This chip damage is for the birds.
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>>169983563
No, I'm talking about the people who camp spawn locations and rush you as soon as you spawn. They don't want group fights, they just want to run your ass down.

>>169983657
No, ganking is traditionally a host and 1 or 2 phantoms. Invaders can't really form organised teams to gang up on one player because of the random nature of invasions.
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>>169984897

no, you just have to be gud.

if you're really having trouble just clear out everything else first so you'll at least have a level advantage.
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>>169983657
>>169985058
Also
>hosts and phantoms gank because being killed by invaders...

Lol, you've clearly not invaded much. I'm talking about the proper gankers, the ones who sit there with a seeded/empty world, who run you down as you spawn in.
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>>169984229
>its just a prank bro!
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>>169983771
Patches did nothing wrong.
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>>169985292
exactly. he even gives you humanity, which is the only thing you may lose if you were human in the first place, provided you're actually dumb enough to fall for it and die
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>>169985178
It's very hard for them to camp every location if you use obscuring, slumbering and cat before you enter the world.
With rolls, it's very hard to get spawn killed since most of them aren't against walls
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>>169984213
>>169984172
okay. Since I can only make use of twinkling titanite, is there any armour in anor londo that outclasses it and can be upgraded by twinkling?
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>>169984897
Remember, you can do the worlds in any order.
There's a magic falchion in 4-1, and on the cliff in 1-1 where the dragons are is a greatshield that has ~80% flame defense. If you've gotten him yet, I think Patches sells some magic resin too.
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>>169982893
Having fun with the outdoor pvp system.
Making the game feel more dangerous for people playing with ember on.
Farming covenant items.
Impromptu pvp is one of the reasons I love this series.
If you want a fair match where the better player wins you are better off playing a real fighting game.
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>>169985760
>Since I can only make use of twinkling titanite
Other people sell regular titanite, about 3 others in fact
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>>169985801
I have that falchion from 4-1, I'm still only doing 85 damage. That shield requires 22STR, and I have 14. Would take time to grind another 8 levels just for the shield. I'll check patches for the resin, perhaps that will help some.
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>>169985598
>take up 3 ring slots
>just to avoid something that happens maybe 40% of invasions

Eh, I'm not really complaining about ganks, I just thought it'd be an interesting topic of discussion.

>>169985995
Running someone down in a 2v1 or 3v1 scenario isn't really having fun with the PvP system. Unless they're testing phantom ranges...

>those other points
I don't think you understood my post at all.
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>>169985997
then I can only upgrade to +5. That's not good enough for lategame
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>>169986618
A gajillion vendors sell large shards and chunks drop from like 4 enemy types
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>>169986723
I killed andre so I can't go +15.
Only twinkling
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Why are twinks called twinks in this series?
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>>169987175
because they're gay
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>>169986579
Swapping 3 rings takes only 10 seconds or so anyway
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>>169987175
Exact origin is unclear, but it's mostly a holdover from WoW where it meant the same thing
Basically >>169987261
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Feels bad being late to the party. 25 days until the community finally dies out. I wish I was here since the beggining.
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28th March when?
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>>169987491
>beginning
fix'd
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>>169987175
"twink" is an MMO term that refers to a character who has acquired the best possible gear available for their level and character type. The term spread to other RPGs since it's a pretty common concept.

Sometimes, like in korean MMOs, it's a pejorative to express bitterness over someone's dumb luck or willingness to pay exorbitant amounts of real-world money to get ahead, and endgame twinks form a sort of privileged class of best-geared players (which matters in games that are completely about stats).

In other games, like pvp-focused MMOs and multiplayer RPGs like dark souls, it's mainly used to indicate a player that has used in-game gear to best circumvent the game's built in matchmaking limitations that normally prevent players from fighting if there's too large of disparity in numerical strength. Since most of these games use character level to limit matchmaking, you can circumvent it and still maintain an overwhelming numerical advantage over your target by twinking.

In dark souls it originally meant any character that had been minmaxed to use the strongest things possible at a low-level (and thus have maximum advantage) but anymore it just refers to any low-level pvp character because the automatic assumption is that you're minmaxed enough to be advantaged over your target, or else have such an overwhelming skill advantage that stats don't even matter.
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Will TRC be shit?
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>>169987716
No.
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do people still coop the achievement for the all rings achievement in ds3, or has that been patched out?

I'd like some help with it on pc, if somebody wouldn't mind
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>>169981637
You've gotten it completely backwards. Before you even finish NG+, you'll be well past the point where you've softcapped everything of relevance. If you keep playing successive NG+ cycles like some kind of dipshit to get the chance to slowly re-fight each boss in sequential order, you'll pretty quickly find that they become shitfests of taking a trillion years to kill, because your damage doesn't keep up with them.

You already hit 40/40 and +10 on your first run, so when you hit NG+7, every boss becomes an absolutely ludicrous damage sponge, and rips through your 2k health instantly. You only go through multiple NG+ cycles for +2 rings and boring challenge runs, not for actual fun.
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>>169987716
Yes.
Short and linear with mediocre gear.

It's been structured deliberately in a way that makes it seem deceptively long to cover over the actual lack of content and is aggressively linear, even relative to normal souls level design.

It will get points for having more bosses than AoA and people will sperg for a few days over some weapons that are kinda neat in-concept but lose interest after realizing the execution is terrible and they aren't fun or interesting to use, nor effective compared to main-game stuff.
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>>169987175
I always thought it was because you packed a punch in such a low leveled character. Like how actual twinks can .
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>>169987175
>>169987629
In DaS it originally meant someone who'd used the Bottomless Box glitch to take max upgraded armour and weapons over to a brand new character. Man that glitch was fun.
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>be me
>playing dead souls on xdead 360
>get up to Nito
>would like someone else's help to distract Nito while I killed skele's
>spend an hour looking for summon signs
>find one on the path to paladin leeroy
>glorious.png
>summon him
>instant black separation crystal
>find another one a couple minutes later
>he also instant bsc'd
>message him "fine be an asshole"
>replies with "waiting for a friend, that's why I was hidden jagoff"
>hidden
>literally on the path to Nito
>tell him so, he replies with "protip: summon signs not at the bonfire are meant for other people to team up"
>Reply "Not true"
who's the autistic one here? I would understand waiting for friends but you should really put it down where your friend can summon you to help clear instead of waiting, or you can just help someone else real quick. Also I wouldn't have been so upset in the first place if I wasn't playing on deadbox360 and it was so hard to find people to summon.
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>>169987629
so it's like smurfs in dota 2
or like pures in runescape?
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>>169988117
I loved it solely for purposes of doing themed/gimmick/cosplay runs from Firelink Shrine, instead of taking most of the game to get them together.
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Does anyone use the Farron Ring (reduced skill FP consumption)?

I tend to use it with katanas since they're quite reliant on the WA and I only have base attunement. It kinda feels like a wasted slot though.
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>>169988131
being a smurf is more of an experience thing but yeah
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>>169988123
>people are only supposed to summon signs they don't know if they're at the bonfire, it's the rules

He sounds pretty fucking autistic.
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>>169988123
Do you not have passwords on Xbox?
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It's pretty funny that they called the twink ring in dark souls 2 "agape ring".
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>>169988240
Yeah exactly, all the events old /dsg/ did and that... PtD edition really was a dark time for /dsg/.
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>>169988405
>DS1
>passwords
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>>169988405
No, that's not a thing in DS1
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>>169988436
PC was a mistake
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>>169987803
you mean people dropping the rings for other players? you can still do that
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>>169988123
>summon signs not at the bonfire are meant for other people to team up
that's completely made up. if the sign was somehow hidden it would make sense, but that's an entirely different thing
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>>169988458
Oops im an idiot. For some reason I read wolnir instead of nito.
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>>169988131
>so it's like smurfs in dota 2

Not really. Smurfs in Doto are simply more skilled than others at the MMR of the account they're boosting, you can't get a material advantage over other players.

Twinking in Souls is purely a material/equipment advantage regardless of player skill. It varies in effectiveness depending on the game, but DaS3 is the most balanced in terms of anti-twinking since Str/Dex/Fai/Int requirements will keep most end-game stuff out of the hands of low-level characters, un-upgradable armor means you can't get a defense advantage via trading (as opposed to running a +5 Giant Set in Undead Burg in DaS1), and factoring weapon level into matchmaking does the same for weapons.
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>>169988562
yes.
I was hoping somebody would drop me the remaining ones i need.
but i can understand if people dont wanna.
its just such an annoying achievement to go for but one of the last few i need
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>>169988687
which ones you need?
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>>169988684
There's still twinking in 3, but it mostly comes down to using specific pieces of gear that are disproportionately powerful for that stage of the game and making sure your character is properly specialized (offering a slight numerical advantage over an unspecialized pve-player)

That means shit like Cr8's axe, pchain, poison, raw ASS (though this is the new guidebaby crutch so every pve-player uses it, too) and probably most notably the hornet ring.
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>>169988436
>>169988540
how come? you can still get any item you want from asylum
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>>169988893
PC

Was

A mistake
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>>169988893
What, CE? We're talking about on console, kiddo.
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>>169988956
>correlation=causation
>>169988958
>consoles
>mattering
have fun with your whole 3 people
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>>169988540
Dont start a console war please
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>>169987958
You're being awfully pessimistic
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>>169989035
But the PC version literally was a mistake.

>removed BB glitch
>turned /dsg/ to shit
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>>169989127
If he's right, he won't be disappointed
If he's wrong, he'll be pleasantly surprised
He only has to gain from taking a realistically negative attitude towards new content prior to having the chance to experience it.
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>>169989021
>being this new

I suppose you don't remember the Taurus Demon threads constantly swamping page 0 of /v/, do you?

>>169989035
You can't make me.
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>>169989164
You think they wouldn't have removed the glitch sooner or later anyway?
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>>169989317
Literally a mistake.
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What is the point of hacking and invading others? What kind of a twisted soul finds it amusing to invade others and break all of their equipments? What is the purpose of halting someones progress that they worked so hard for? People can be such dicks desu
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Any recommendations for fun weapons on a pyro build? Ive been playing with stats on mugen, but I kind of gave up after seeing the numbers on what I thought would be good. Guess Ill just take suggestions at face value and let that dictate str/dex

also would crystal magic weapon even be worth the attunement slot at 40int?
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Huh. Got sully on my first try

God damn the FUGS kicks ass
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>>169989878
In today's episode, anon discovers that some people are cunts.
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>>169990143
A strong UGS will honestly trivialize the game. most bosses/enemies just can't handle charged R2s.

My dedicated FUGS character steamrolled Friede in about a minute because you can just completely shut her down with HA knockdowns
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>>169986579
Yeah, sorry.
I didn't read your post properly.
Nevermind that then.
They're just kids wasting time for a few laughs.
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>>169989878
it's a good change of pace from super serious fighting all the time, does the body a whole lot of good
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>>169987857
Just roll a new character.
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>>169990293
I noticed

Sully really cant handle the Wa on the FUGS
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>>169990078
Raw ASS
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>>169987857
How do people beat bosses that have undodgeable attacks?
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Man I hate invading in the Parish at SL1. Its nothing but counter twinks and its really slow. The other day I got ganked by a guy with a NG+7 Lautric at least 3 times in a row
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>>169990293
>>169990443

UGS also makes you duck under his attacks when you attack a lot of the time.
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>>169962127
>>
>want to do a SL1 run and use the dark hand
>realize right after killing Vordt that you can't even get that weapon on SL1

What's another good weapon for a SL1 run?
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>>169991281
What's an SL1 run?
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>>169991332
Playing through the game on SL1 without leveling.

In DaS1 it was as a pyromancer, in DaS3 it's as deprived. Not sure what class started on SL1 in DaS2.
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>>169991281
Oh yeah...I mean I guess you could do a SL5 run.

Can someone drop dork hand?
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First time play Dark Souls and I'm playing Dark Souls 3 currently. Any advice or tips guys?
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I've never played a Souls game for a second time, not even NG+.
The first playthrough always felt great because it was new and unexplored.
But every time I think about doing a second playthrough, I always feel like "nah, then you gotta do this and that again". And most importantly, somehow the gloomy, miserable atmosphere in the games becomes a real turnoff after the first run for me. I'm actually feeling a little anxiety when thinking about going through all the doom n gloom again.

anyone else whos like that too?
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>>169991539
Stop right now and go play the first one.
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>>169991567
Yeah I think the same way.
It's only good the first time.
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>>169991539
Choose master key for your gift.
Don't attack neutral NPCs. Max endurance.
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>>169991539
Don't start a series with the most recent game
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>>169991734
>DaS3
This thread really needs to brush up on their reading comprehension.
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>>169991539
Take it slow, be perceptive of your suroundings. It'll feel twice as rewarding to find a solution to a difficult part all by yourself.
Just use the gear you think is/looks fun, and have fun in general.
Talk to everyone, it pays of to check back on NPC's once in a while for new items/dialogue
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>>169992224
>>169991623
is it really bad playing the 3rd one?
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>>169992358
There's some references and some 'references' to DS1&2 lore stuff.
Its not that bad to play 3 first in my opinion but it pays to at least play the other 2 some time, be it now or after 3.
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>>169991539
Stop and go play the first one
Make sure to get at least 40 resistance
The gold knight is your only ally, kill everyone else, they're traitors
dex is unviable, so stick to str weapons
the game doesn't get that good until the second half
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>>169992358
The game's are connected, anon. The third game assumes you're familiar with the first, and references characters/events from it without explaining them for a newcomer.
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>>169991539
Don't listen to >>169992224
Souls series aren't exactly narrative heavy so it really doesn't matter.

DaS3 is a pretty easy entry point into the series. I guess learn dodging, there are some people who still don't understand that the dodge is front-loaded with I-frames and is incredibly useful in avoiding damage, in DaS3 it's even better than blocking. other than that probably just avoid this thread, explore, take your time getting comfortable with the game and all.
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>>169992337
Will do. Never thought I'd suck so hard at a game till i played this. Fuck, i'm not used to controls like this. I'll keep this all in mind.

>>169992443
Ahh fair enough.
I'll deffo play them all at some point.
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>>169992358
Not either of those guys, but it's harder to go backwards due to the improvements subsequent games make. Also 3 has a lot of references to 1, so it'd probably be more impactful to play 1 first.
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>>169991476
Deprived, but it had it so much worse, mainly because of agi
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>>169983552
Seriously
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>>169950152
>Get told about how great Silverblack sickle is
>finally get to undead crypt and farm it
>uprade to +10 and infuse with dark
>does less damage than a battle axe infused with dark
Wtf m8s
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>finally kill sullyvahn on my no level up character
>having all these souls on me the whole time for when I finally decide to level is constantly having my adrenaline pumping
>its actually making me better at the game
Wew lad, everyone should do a SL1 playthrough.
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>>169993495
why don't you upgrade your weapons and armour?
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Is there a legit way to deal with the wyvern's fire at Lothric Castle? I'm SL20 so rolling across the courtyard means death.
I could probably kill them with 198 arrows but surely there's a way to get across without taking so much damage? Just trying to get the Knight's Ring early.
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>>169993713
Not him, but that requires Titanite, and there's only so much shit you can buy from merchants. You get a lot of souls, anon.

>>169993769
Same way you deal with every other wyvern?
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>>169993769
Anon if you know enough about the game to know where to find the rind, surely you also know that the dragons at the castle "die" as soon as you force their Pus of Man to come out?

I killed them with arrows in my first playthrough too, but that's entirely unecessary.
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>>169993769
roll off the bridge to the left and follow that path
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>>169993713
Ive got a +3 raw weapon and thats still servicable even this late in the game.
Im going to pvp in high wall with 400k souls and make whatever laggy new player who manages to kill me a very happy bitch.
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What's these guy's deal
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>>169994001
>Same way you deal with every other wyvern?
Arrows? From really expected players to either take a fucking ton of damage, or ping them with a faggy bow for 20 minutes?
Is there literally no other way to progress?

>>169994179
>surely you also know that the dragons at the castle "die" as soon as you force their Pus of Man to come out?
Yes, but you have to reach the other side of the courtyard before you encounter the first Glob of Infinite Reach. D-don't you?
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http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls3/mods/143/?
Unofficial patch got updated.
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>>169988795
fuck me, nevermind, didnt realize you need all the ng+ ones as well. im at 60/107
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>>169994309
>can't invade or even kite a host to the RoS Corvian Funhouse
Horrible, horrible game design.
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>>169994310
Oh, that's right, you still have to cross a short section of the courtyard to reach it
Weird. I'm pretty sure it's doable with such a low SL, considering I have also done with a roughly SL20 and I don't tend to level HP at all until way late in the game.
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who the fuck is that samurai ass dude at the cemetery of ash. He keeps fucking me up
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Anyone here /xbox360/ dark souls still? I need help with Nito and I can't find any summon signs
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>>169994606
A massive weeb, is what he is.
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>>169994309
Forlorn undead with no place to call home. The storytellers come and proselytize the Painted World as a haven of salvation from their miserable existences and they worship it, patiently waiting to find their way inside. Their worship gradually transforms them into crow-people because the Painted World itself has some magical affinity to the Goddess associated with crows ("Mother of the Forlorn" that Gael prays to), whose blessings gradually twist their followers into crow-people.

The ones on the road of sacrifices were undead prepared in the Settlement and then sent off to be fed to Aldrich but didn't make it there because, as you can see, the road is fucked. With no home to return to and no destination to reach, they just stayed on the road and wallowed in abject misery until stories of the Painted World found their ears.
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>>169994310
>ping them with a faggy bow for 20 minutes?
Yes, precisely. Have fun.
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>>169994262
Thats not how PvP soul gain works anon, they get a set amount depending on your level.
So jack shit because you havent leveled
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>>169988285
I use it with the anime wolf sword so I can flip and shit everywhere.
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At what weapon upgrade level should I stop if I want to do some SL60 aldrich pvp? Most people usually have +6 weapons at that point in the game, right?
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>>169995361
4 or 5.
You want to be low enough that you swing under the +9 twinks hanging out there. Weapon matchmaking always prioritizes the upper limit of your raneg when invading, so as long as there's faggots level ~70 with +9 weapons hanging around, you'll face them and nothing but them.

If you want to actually catch pve-ers, keep your weapon on the low end
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>>169995613
Thanks, that's exactly what I was worried about.
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ds1 first timer here
Can someone explain if I run faster if the wear the havels ring while wearing stone armour?
also I want to know if I should upgrade my medium shield or level up my str to over 30 so I can equip the heavy ones?
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>>169995883
If you talk to the blacksmith in the parish he can upgrade your movement speed.
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>>169995883
Running speed is affected by your equip burden, but only in breakpoints.
If X/Y = 0-25% of Y, then you fastroll and have the normal sprint
If X/Y = 25-50% of Y, then you midroll (slightly more recovery and slightly fewer iframes) and have the normal sprint
If X/Y = 50-100% of Y, then you fatroll (longest recovery, fewest iframes) and have a slower sprint
Over 100% and you lose the ability to roll or sprint at all.
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>>169994674
I feel so bad for you, anon.
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>>169996193
okay. I'm at 51% so I'm just over the area.
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>>169994674
you don't need help with anyone
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>>169994674
You will likely won't find help. But with a divine weapon it's a must to kill the skeletons, normal sized ones. Steer to the right to avoid the giants, once the field it's free from skeletons fighting nito it's easier.
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>there are still some falls that cat ring doesn't save you from
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>>169996704
Yeah I left Nito for last and it sucks because I'm too over leveled to find anyone. I don't even get summoned, I tried all yesterday
>>169996965
While that is true, it makes the fight a lot easier with someone to distract Nito
>>169996980
Yeah I have a divine weapon to use, it's just that I always get turned around and I back up into the giant skeletons
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>>169997089
It doesn't make you immune to fall damage, only to non-lethal instances of it.

It's a distinction that I never had a chance to learn except when it take to the Painted World and I tried jumping off the bridge to the frozen lake below.

Why won't you let us have any fun From?
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What are some helmets?
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>>169997089
That ring is a fucking godsend for Aldrich invasions. So many places to jump from that look okay but cause huge damage, and they fall for it every time.
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Could someone post the full-heal WebM of Pontiff's Left eye? I need it for something.
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>>169997649
It's literally the fucking OP you mong
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>>169997240
>not doing spook quitouts

LOL
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>>169997713
Oh
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>>169997262
Elite knight helm = Fluted helm = Knight helm (ds3) > Cathedral Knight Helm > Faraam helm >>>> Alva helm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any helm with a raised visor
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>>169995883
If you like heavy shields:
Get the Greatshield of Artorias. Just trust me on that one.

Otherwise choose shields you like the design of best.
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>>169998085
Now THAT is a shield.
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>>169995613
So thats why every FC I randomly joined there everyone had insane weapons that did way more damage than my +6.
Is that fun for them?
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>>169998367
They can't tell you're +6, guy.
Pontiff's is the designated endgame duel area. Don't put your RSS down if you're not ready to face endgame players
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>>169998454
>RSS

He's a purplefag
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>tfw no berserk souls game

It seems to me that the souls games, excluding Memeborne, generally have plain, boring movesets with only a handful of exceptions. I believe this is primarily due to the fact that there are several weapons that are virtually identical in design to one another. This, in addition to the fact that there are almost 1000 total weaponslot items throughout all four games, it's kinda hard to make them not feel "samey".

BB only had about 40 weapons, but each one of them, barring a couple of exceptions, (that make perfect sense lore-wise), is completely unique.

A Soulslike Berserk game where you're limited to only the weapons that Guts used, or Dragonslayer, would have some absolutely fantastic gameplay.
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>>169998725
Berserk is kinda shit, guy. Get over your crappy japanese comic book, the author clearly has already
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So I saved Onion man from the well, and have patches as a merchant.
Sent Greirat out, Went through Irithyll, found onion man and his soup, and Im at sully. After I kill sully, will greirat count as saved from onion man? Or because patches is alive Id need to talk to him to save greirat?
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>>169998794
little did you know, i too, have given up on ever seeing berserk finish in my lifetime

it's an extremely appealing universe but only to a fairly small circle of people. makes perfect sense if you don't like it, lad

you'd have to come up with a pretty convincing argument if you honestly don't think that a souls game with extremely-well done ultras wouldn't be S+++ hot shit you'd never be able to put down.
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>>169998816
It will work with Siegward as long as you didn't go to dungeon.
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>END gives flat Lightning defense
>STR gives flat Fire defense
Fuck Memezaki
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>>169998816
If Siegward is in the Irithyll kitchen by the time Greirat is sent there and you defeat a boss, he'll save Greirat as long as you don't go into Irithyll dungeon.

That said, I don't know if the fact that you've actually talked to him while he was in said kitchen automatically causes his quest to move to the "Dungeon" phase and he no longer counts as being in Irithyll for the purposes of saving Greirat. Either way you can no longer rely on Patches, since for Patches to save him he needs to still have Siegward's armor in his inventory. I just recommend you beat a boss as quickly as possible and see if Greirat is saved or not.
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>>169999013
The guiding memelight in BB was a fantastically done Greatsword, though its up to you if youd considered its transformed version an UGS.
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>>169961407
hey there cutie
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>>169958650
>that millwood + hypermode headshot post
is it bad that I've already done that and do it to fight club hosts
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>>169999176
>referring to it as "flat defense"

It's better understood as being damage threshold, similarly to how armor, and by extension, damage calculation, in Fallout 4 works.

When you reach a certain amount of defense relative to the damage you take, that damage is reduced by a static amount. This is where people think it's "flat defense".

The specific amounts are virtually unknown, but I can give an example. It isn't exact, but it is similar. I'm also going to ignore absorption, for the sake of simplicity.

>If you have 100 defense, and take 100 damage, the threshold has been met and you will take no less or additional damage.
>100 defense, 125 damage. Threshold has been broken and you take 10% additional damage, for a total of 137.
>100 defense, 50 damage. The damage received is significantly under the threshold. You take 50% less for a total of 25.
>100 defense, 200 damage. The damage received has significantly pierced the threshold. You take 50% additional damage, for a total of 300.

tl;dr: low damage is punished by lower damage, higher damage is rewarded by higher damage

really puts the emphasis on weaknesses
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>>169961407
Wait until the DLC at least so you can get that literal lightsaber sword
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>>170000329
when it's activated though, you're forced to edgelord-walk, just like friede's
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>>170000251
Issue is basically all lightning damage in the game is fucked because everyone uses end and most fire damage is fucked because quality builds.
Also defenses are too high in general, there are no weaknesses, with 40 end youre going from good lightning defense to great.
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>>170000251
So here's a really stupid question but that I can't rightly find the answer to by myself. What are the advantages of adopting a multi-layered system like this, plus absorption on top and whatnot, rather than just a flat "[x] armor piece absorbs [y]% of [z] damage type" sort of deal?
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>>170000607
>katana users
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>>170000468
although it doesn't really matter, since lightning damage is heavily affected by defense or absorption either way.

In fact, if people didn't get lightning defense, they'd be considered "weak" to it.

Sunlight spear already trades for 900 damage with a clutch ring, 800 without it. That is a lot of damage and it ignores any damage threshold anyway. Weaker sources of lightning are affected, sure, but those lower-damage sources are more utilitarian than damaging.

>>170000646
At extremely high souls levels on very high NG+ cycles in previous games, everything one-shots you, or close to it.

With 200 defense and high absorption, the chance of getting one-shotted by anything short of a lethal fall is literally nil; damage goes through absoprtion first, before it's affected by defense. You get increasing returns on tankiness the higher you go.

I don't have any hard evidence, but my theory is that some player attacks can "pierce", or rather, ignore, absorption to an extent, which is why it isn't very powerful in PvP, but absoprtion remains extremely powerful in PvE.
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>>170000856
all according to keikaku
keikaku means "plan" in japanase
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>>170001038
>trusting visuals
>in lag souls
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>>170001003
isn't heavily affected by defense***

>>170001038
echo effect of clientside games. he hit you on his screen, so it counts.
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How the fuck am I supposed to kill these skellys in the graveyard? My Halberd does like 24 damage a hit
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>>170001160
Especially since hes clearly moving towards the position behind him.
>170000000
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>>170001283
Simple, you don't go to the graveyard. The bell is in the opposite direction.

Also, the skeletons are weak to blunt damage, two-hand a mace and crush them.
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>>170001283
Skellies are a mid-game enemy in ds. Not that you can't power your way through, I did that my first time.
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>>170001283
You don't, dummy. Only people who can reasonably go into the graveyard at the start of the game without being experienced players are people who have strike damage-type weapons. Like maces and the like.
Go in the other direction.
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So is the increased damage taken by Prisoner's Chains worth it at SL60-70?
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>>170001565

Yes. I've used it myself at that level and the increased stats are well worth the extra damage, which really isn't noticeable until, well, somewhere past that. I don't know the exactl level where it's not worth it, but I do that the higher you go, the less useful it is.
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>>170001565
Sure, if you subtract around 30-40 levels.

Prisoner's Chain is only useful for twinking at low SL. It is otherwise not a very good ring.
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>>170001565
no

slap on a life ring+3 and manage your stamina
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Peak co-op is boss battles with just you and competent host
Helping retard shitters complete the build up level beforehand is the worst, well that or ganking, both PvE and PVP
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>>170002264
>Get summoned into someones world as a DMB
>Invader is never found
>You're just walking along with the incompetent host as they noobtrudge their way through a level.
>Stick it out anyway for a chance at an ear
Its like being stuck at the mall with your autistic brother.
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>>170002264
If a host were competent, they wouldn't need to summon you. Most hosts are, unfortunately, shitters who would just as easily die to mobs.
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>>170002264
I agree. Farming sunlight medals at the Soul of Cinder fight was a lot of fun.

Never was a friend of doing the levels with other players especially DaS3 where every enemy gets staggered by a single R1.
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>>169999176
Why does END even exist?
HP and stamina are mutually obligatory stats. Nobody ever wants more of one without the other unless they're doing a challenge run where they deliberately cripple one stat. There's no reason to have those two stats affected by separate attributes.

Shit should be broken down like this:
Vigor - increase HP, stamina and poison resistance
Vitality - increase equip load and physical defense
Attunement - adds attunement slots, increases FP, increases cast speed, adds and increases innate FP regen
STR - meet str requirements, increase damage from str scaling, physical defense (proportional to vit) and fire defense
DEX - meet dex requirements, increase damage from dex scaling and reduces falling damage
INT - meet int requirements, increase damage from int scaling, increase magic defense
FTH - meet fth requirements, increase damage from faith scaling, increase physical defense, increase dark defense
LCK - increase item find, increase bleed and poison buildup, increase bleed and curse resistance, increase lightning defense.

FP should passively regen when ATT is 12 or higher, and that regen rate should increase with ATT.
Blessed should not-suck, but also the regen should have an innate FTH requirement to activate and increase with FTH (requiring an investment to reach the effectiveness it now gets for free)
Cast speed should be tied to ATT instead of DEX because most casters don't have any need for DEX
No stat should provide defense against frost because the entire point of frost is that it appears in low quantities, can't be boosted but is also difficult to resist.
Natural lightning defense should not be easily accessible considering the entire gimmick behind lightning is that it's the lowest-damage element but also the hardest to stack resistance against. Luck also has the irony in that a lucky person is less likely to be struck by lightning.
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Decided to level my level 80 faith build up to 120 but I lost over 1m souls whilst farming for DMB. What's a fast method to farm souls?
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>>170002614
I did the game without summoning but I've most certainly been summoned to world's with hosts that were far better than me
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>>170002708
Co-op. Co-op constantly.
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Which infusion is better in dark souls 2 SotFS? I currently have a fire greatsowrd +10 but i guess lightning is better since i see everyone with lightning weapons.
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>>170002614
>>170002798
Yeah, I usually summon people on my 3rd+ playthrough to help people farm souls/medals.
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>>170002708
The three Winged Knights at the base of Prince Lothric's Outrageously Long Staircase.
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Can I change my appearance and stats 5 times each?
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>>170002953
Are you a faith build?
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>>169997936
Can anyone show me how cathedral knight helm looks with sunless armour? I bet you can see the neck and I bet it looks huge.
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>>170002981
That, I get brought into NG+ and on a fair bit too, which is always fun, again if the host is good it's great
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>>170002679
>fth
>increase physical defense

Found the cleric shitter
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>>170003006
no, it all shares the same counter
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>>170003294
Two reasons:
One, faith is a crutch stat for first playthroughs and it just makes sense to give it something that would benefit people who get hit a lot.

Two, faith is a really inefficient stat, the objectively worst of the 4 offensive stats. Strength is bad and overly reliant on trading so it gets physical defense. Faith is bad and overly reliant on trading so it ought to get physical defense, too.
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>>169997936
Drakeblood is best by far
>Putting a great helm that high
Poor taste tbqh
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>>170002679

>VIG
>increasing poison resistance

Good job making it even more useless.
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>>170003782
Poison's problem is the damage, not the buildup. It's currently so trivially easy to poison someone that having the resistance more accessible wouldn't have much impact. Rather, making poison resistance more accessible means that poison damage could reasonably be improved without breaking game balance.
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>>170002953
depends entirely on your build.
Fire scaling is a combo of int and faith together.
Magic scaling is pure int
Lightning scaling is pure faith
Dark scaling scales with the the lowest of the 2 stat
So if you leveled the shit out of int, you should use a magic infusion. If you leveled the shit out of faith, you should use a lightning infusion.
However I recommend you put your big boy pants on and stop using magic shit.
>>170003782
if you made poison act like it did in II then that stat would actually be useful
but for some reason they made it shit again, shoulda done slow/fast poison like in BB
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>>170003046
Not really, 8FTH 40STR, i can max faith but does the buff compensates it?
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>>170002679
Why does VIG exists? HP and stamina are pretty much obligatory stats so they should scale only with level.
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>>170004154
So that shitters have yet another crutch.
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>>170004154
So theres a choice between heavier armor and more stamina instead of end game being havel ninjas.
Main issue is heavier armor is shit compared to most medium sets
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>>170004098
>big boy pants
Most weapons have a higher AR with infusions in ds2, greatsword can reach 700 AR with any of the four infusions, what are you, patches?
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Okay this is what im feeling so far:

At the dawn of fire the pygmies found the flame and claimed flaming souls

The most powerful of these flaming souls belonged to gwyn, witch of izalith, and nito.

A unique soul was found, by the furtive pygmy, but he did not know it yet. The pygmy found what was the smallest burning soul, but what it lacked in size it had in incandescence, being a bright white soul. The pygmy was not a lord, but became the god of forethought and of creation for birthing mankind. He became a king when gwyn moved his people to the surface.

The pygmy became a lord when the fire began to fade, and he became the first hollow.
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>>170004112
Do you want to change your character to a faith build?
Faith with Lightning infusion and buffed is bretty good
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>>170004290
> what are you, patches?
Essentially, fuck magic in all it's forms. Pure casting is already casual enough.
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>>170004154
Mainly because the choice between increasing your dump stats vs your actually engaging stats is a meaningful one: a more survivable character that can roll/take actions more frequently vs one that can use more weapons/spells more effectively but is less survivable.

The choice between one dump stat or another is not really a meaningful one.
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>>170004314
>Gwyn is a pygmy
You're retarded.
Do yourself a favour and google the word "pygmy"
Make sure your google is set to english instead of whatever guttural slug language you speak natively.
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>>170004523
In 3 a faith knight is straight up worse than a straight up knight build until fairly high levels
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>>170004523
Lightning Stake proves you wrong, and also a humongous faggot.
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>>170004051

You're right. That would make a lot more sense.
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>>170004535
Except HP is a purely defensive thing while end can actually increase your damage more than damage stats s separating them has a point.
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>>170004740
The game rarely if ever gives you such a large opening against an enemy to actually dump all of your stamina on them, or to the point where your ability to DPS a target is gated by your maximum stamina.

Rather, a larger stamina bar just makes stamina easier to manage. It means there's less risk of being empty after attacking and thus unable to evade. That's the primary gating stamina applies: it limits your ability to block and evade. The fact that attacking shares that resource has little impact on gameplay beyond the fact that it leaves less stamina left over to block and evade. You never think "oh gee I can't attack into this opening because I don't have enough stamina to swing my weapon." You think "oh gee I can't attack into this opening because I don't have enough stamina to roll after I swing my weapon"

It's primarily a defensive stat and primarily a stat that makes the game easier to play for those who struggle to effectively manage the game's combat mechanics --just like HP.
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>>170004708
I'm aware, I would feel bad for magic users but I really don't care now considering how strong magic has always been. The only real problem is how linear the game is and how all the good aka OP as shit spells are put right at the end of the game with no way to get to them early.
>>170004727
>the only good faith spell in 3 is somehow proof that magic isn't for casuals
???
the other dudes argument made more sense
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I can't do it /dsg/. I can't let her go.
I'll continue to wear her in NG+.
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>>170005050
>>170004523
If you're talking about PvP duels then casters are pretty shit. A decent player can just dodge your spells all day long until you run out of juice.

As someone who has a high level INT and quality build for dueling, I can assure you that pure quality is much stronger and requires far less skill and strategy
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>>170005024
>The game rarely if ever gives you such a large opening against an enemy to actually dump all of your stamina on them, or to the point where your ability to DPS a target is gated by your maximum stamina.

How to tell anon has only ever used his weaponfu
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What is up with the phantom range in this game? This is so dumb desu
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>>170005050
Faith was good for a couple things in 1, was at its best at the start of 2, before being made fucking awful and then shit again
Sorcery is the main one that shitters use to get through the game
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>>170005418
That's not phantom range. That's just very bad lag.
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>>170005050
>one of the best faith spells is a melee range-only option that is harder to use effectively than a good deal of weapon classes
Yep, glad we can see eye to eye, then.
Similarly in 2, if you try doing a cleric run you'll be gimping yourself for most of the game. And in 1's cleric at this point is basically "Divine Mace: The Game" after Belfry Gargoyles.

But by all means, do pretend that wearing your Havel set and swinging your Ultra Greatsword of Instant Staggering is that much more challenging.
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>>170005406
ok u rite but also 3v3 with sorcery is so fun you can't fucking see straight
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>>170004520
STR/FTH templar style, also i noticed that everyone but hollows aren't weak to fire
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how fucking rude
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>>170005554
DaS3 lag is so better than this. DaS2 lag seems so one sided and only benefits the laggy person.
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>>170005406
>If you're talking about PvP
I'm not, but pure casters aren't that terrible in PvP in 2. Certainly better than they are in 3. It's spellswords who get the best of both words and it's why most high level arena builds look like christmas trees.
>>170005492
faith was the main crutch of shitter lord DSP himself, even after it's nerf it was still strong enough to carry shitters, spellswording shitters at least
Also it isn't sorcery it's pyromancy, sorcery is a close second in II but pyros can cheese through all 3 games
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>>170005683
pss is shit though.
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>>170005706

DaS2 is very prone to desyncs like that.
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>>170005575
>havel mode
How's the 9th grade?
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>>170005854
and /dsg/ says DaS2 pvp is better
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>>170005731
I've been playing as sorcerer in 3 and it has been piss easy
Faith was used by the shitter, and it was nerfed, dark is much more powerful than straight FTH after, they took away lightning spear casts and made them weaker too
FTH was nerfed like fuck
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>>170005683
That malformed grackle couldn't have chosen a worse spot to set up shop unless she decided to move to the bottom of Iron Passage.
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Is there anyone out there willing to gift a Firelink set?
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>>170004685

Compared to the giants retard. Every lord soul becomes a dark soul when the flame of it goes out.

The furtive pygmy was the first one to go dark, and he became a dark lord. Just like how nito became the gravelord from being the first to die.
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>>170005943
>ever believing opinion of /dsg/ contrarians
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Faith infusions:

Blessed - The impact on base damage and physical scaling is greatly reduced (more overall damage) and faith scaling is increased. This becomes the primary faith-based infusion. HP regen only activates if faith is >15 and begins at half effectivness. The regen increases with faith to max at the current HP regen value only at 30fth. When faith is >15, dealing damage triggers the regen effect, which then remains active for 10 seconds and can be freely refreshed as long as you hit things. Blessed shields can have their regen triggered by any source of damage but weapons can only trigger the regen if either the weapon itself deals damage or if a miracle is cast.

All weapons with faith requirements (eg. Morne's, Yorshka's, etc.) have these same effects innately. Sun princess Ring now also only activates its regen after the wearer damages an enemy

Lightning - Lightning weapons lose a little bit of base damage and scaling but do not gain innate lightning damage or faith scaling. Instead, they gain an effect that triggers on the same rules as the Pontiff's Left Eye and adds a large flat amount of non-scaling bonus lightning damage for 30 seconds when triggered. When near to active dragon-based enemies (sneks, wyverns, King of the Storm, etc) this lightning damage automatically activates and remains active as long as the dragonoid enemy is nearby.

The change to blessed solidifies faith's gimmick of having access to physical damage as a casting spec, kills blessed cestus and forces faith builds to remain active in pvp if they want to keep their regen up, rather than just passively waiting for it to save them. With Blessed not-shit, the terribad lightning infusion instead changes to be an infusion any build can use to access lightning damage, but only contextually. It aligns more closely with DaS1's concept of the lightning infusion, but the context-gating means that it can't be used for twinking or abused in pvp in general.
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>>170006013
>I've been playing as sorcerer in 3 and it has been piss easy
I wouldn't know I've never bothered, I just heard people on release complaining about it
also lets not forget that dark was most likely nerfed harder than faith ever was
>>170005575
>he thinks magic shitters are somehow incapable of wearing havels just like every regular shitter
have you not seen what the average das2 character looks like?
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>>170006364
booting up my nintendo switch
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>parry
>accidentally roll out
>remember its not DaS3 and riposte opponent
Why did they remove this on DaS3? Changing your whole armor set before riposting your opponent was one of the fun part of parrying in DaS2 desu
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Is a luck build with the shortsword in the cellar relatively in the beginning of the game still possible or did they nerf it?
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>>170007321
Given how much slower DaS2's combat is compared to the other games, it would be ripe for so much abuse. I don't think anyone would want someone to be able to hardswap to Hornet and Yhorm's and pull out an offhand Morion after seppuku-ing down to <20% with Bloodlust, and then do the riposte.
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>>169998085
but are heavy shields better for new timers or not?
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>>170007321
Hornet Ring. Though they could have just made it so Hornet Ring causes auto-ripostes so they could keep the longer stun animation.
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>>170007610
Greatshields are fucking retarded in the first two games, you can cockblock so much shit so long as they're properly upgraded.
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>>170005024
>The game rarely if ever gives you such a large opening against an enemy to actually dump all of your stamina on them, or to the point where your ability to DPS a target is gated by your maximum stamina.
That really depends on your weapon. If you use anything fast it's very common. Even against some bosses
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>>170007607
Agreed but the parry riposte window is so small if you accidentally roll out you cant riposte your opponent back. I am not saying as to make it that slow as DaS2 but a little bit slower would have been better.
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>>170006504
speaking of which, are they porting any souls to it?
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>>170007321
You can do that in the other games too, there's that riposite into giant dad thing
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>>170007995
>if you screw up and roll away you get punished
What an issue...
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Give me 1 reason not to level up vitality
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>>170008351
Its only direct benefit is greater access to poise which only benefits certain weapons and only in certain weapon matchups
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>>170008351
You don't need vitality to wear a cute dress
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>>170006029
Dude, it's her house. She can't afford anything better. Some of us just have to make do with living in the projects.
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>>170008351
Heavy armor is a meme.
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>>170008508
Well she could come to Majula. It's not like Shalquoir is doing much living in a building all by herself.
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>>170008583
>>>/tv/
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>>170008101
I should have mentioned that i meant DaS3 specifically my bad.
>>170008256
My complain is the stun animation being rather small compared to the previous souls games. If you don't time it perfect you can miss quickswap weapon riposte too.
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>>170008351
it has negative synergy with robflynn
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>>170008673
isn't /sp/ the official blacked board?
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>>170008814
It's pretty much every normalfag board to be honest.
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oh shit

False King Allant voiced Father Ariandel
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>>170008351
Well in DS2 I have all of 4 vitality and I'm wearing half the forlorn set with 4 equipped weapons and I'm still barely hitting 50% weight. So it's kind of a meme.
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>>170009108
MUH SOUL LEVAIL
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>flynn's ring in DaS3
I get that it was awfully strong in DaS2, but this is overkill.
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>>170009108
that's impossible. allant is a video game character and doesn't exist in the real world
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>>170009530
not with that attitude
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>>170009209
>was doing a build where I headshot FC hosts with hypermode + dragon buff, had base stats in everything but str
>"oh shit, flynns ring would be perfect for this"
>check the stats for it on wiki
>mfw
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>>170009108
>Peter Marinker
Really? Source.
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>>170005418
She was attacking your spirit body
>not opening the pineal eye and defending your second self
smdh
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>>170009662
Can't find anything Tbh

its just the Allant sounds a lot like Ariandel to me

hell, they even have the same accent
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>People who attack shalqoir
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>>170010501
>people who care
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>>170010501

>people who give a shit about animals
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>>170010312
>they sound alike
Opinion discarded.
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