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Mordhau Edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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First for THE LAW
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>>169854324
I love when Peaceshitters run from me.\

>Five fucking Captchas
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So does Feat Cooldown Reduction reduce how long it takes to get to t4 feats?
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>>169854410
It decreases cooldowns for abilities after you unlock and use them
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Repostin because new thread:
Playing lawbringer against a peacekeeper
Spam shove>blockbreak>side heavy
Idiot cant tech or even just roll away.
Get fan mail.
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Eighth for Teammates are more dangerous then the opposing team
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Who's the best dancer and why is it fem-warden?
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>>169854496
We play again, after that round he says he will be cheap, assume he means light spam. Go conq
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>>169854258
Why does everyone in medieval texts look so blasé about everything?
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>>169854549
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>>169854496
>>169854676
noone cares friend
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>>169854639
Nice parkinsons
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>>169854676
Shove his fucking face in a wall repeatedly, he rage quits.
Emoji because fuck you
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Why do some many honor fags play elimination? The mode was made for ganking and general dickery
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come make furiends

https://discord.gg/m9GAu3Z
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let's have a positive thread!

what's lawbringer's best matchup and why?
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>>169854707
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>>169854707
He's not wrong.
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>trying to learn raider in duels
>every other game is a rep3+ valk

how the fuck am I supposed to beat this cunt
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>>169854842
They usually do it with friends
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Threadly reminder that if you play Orochi or Peacekeeper you are not actually good at the game.
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>Talks shit about PK's doing the same moves over and over
>Does the Shugoki exploit over and over and over and fucking over
Seriously though how do I report this fuckbag? I didn't know for sure he was exploiting until I reviewed the footage.
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>join Knights
>love Lawbringer, get him to R3
>decide to branch out a bit
>try out Nobushi, loads of fun kicking and playing keepaway
>start playing a lot of Kensei because I don't like the temptation of vortex spam
>start playing some Shugoki because he's hilarious
>start playing Orochi because I don't really like the zerker's aesthetic and I cannot into PK at all
>Realize these are all the Weeb classes
Help.
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>>169854892
What made my day is that he switched to roach on the rematch and then rage quit mid execution 4th round.
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>>169854940
I don't disagree but ommiting warlord looks kinda suspicious
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>>169854903
Bop 'em in the head once in a while.
Bait stuff with your unblockable.
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>>169854842
i only play it when i have orders to do
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>>169854335
>using environment in 1v1
>playing fucking roach
>fighting for the fucking samurai in faction war
you are the problem with the game, fucking kill yourself
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>>169854842
Its elim, the bastard child of Duels and dominion. People look for honor in that
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>>169854878
Me, as I always underestimate his long arm range
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what can warlords do if they get a gb?
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UBISOFT

LET ME QUEUE FOR MATCHMAKING WHILE IN DUEL PRACTICE
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>>169854956
pretty sure you select their name on the end-game screen

>>169855073
push you around or overhead heavy
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>>169855007
Nah mang ur good
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>>169854876
does this artist have more for honor art? their style is great
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>>169854956
>peacekeeper
you deserve it desu senpai
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>>169855137
thanks
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>>169854878
Nobushi
Once you're in you're golden.

>>169855064
Like it matters, whats he gonna do, Light overhead you?
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>tfw playing Conqueror for the first time
>already been fucking irritated/mad over the PK infestation
>playing Conq to chill out and exact vengeance
>fight a Rep 3 Warden
>still learning Conq, wind up destroying this guy
>this happens

Post your hate mail and salt.
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>want to play on my rep 10 Lawbringer
>10 levels away from purple gear for warden
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>>169854707
Is this that "kensei is op" retard from the last thread
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>>169854384
You have to admit that move is broken as shit in 4v4
>Get hooked once, you can't get away until the Lawbringer is either interrupted or stops on his own
>Meanwhile his teammates can kill you with literally no risk at all and you can't defend
It's horseshit, especially considering how little stamina it uses
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>>169854483
That's kind of neat but I was hoping it would make getting t3-4 ones quicker than usual. Oh well
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>>169854831
In the end he learned nothing, and refused to learn. I fucking hate peacekeepers.
Was I in the wrong on this?
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>>169855073
Top heavy.
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>>169854956
how's he exploiting?
I've never played Shugoki but it looks like his charge up attack
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>>169855274
I don't know, I like to believe the weebs in the general don't use generic as fuck emblems.
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>>169854324
Weebs fear THE LAW!
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>>169854940
Where's warlord?
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>>169855280
What else is he gonna do, overhead light you?
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>>169855264
All Conq has going for him is his heavy charge though, good luck landing lights against people, and anyone who's not retarded knows you can dodge the shield bash now
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Jesus christ, literally EVERY SINGLE vs AI MATCH is nothing but AFKers. Did somebody make a youtube video or something?

Just have to play with matchmaking off now, assuming it doesn't disconnect me even then
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>>169855280
Meh. I feel like it brings balance(TM). This way they can't spam zone attacks.
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>>169854842
I've only seen this happen when it's a 4 on 1 - they surround you in a gangbang and let you fight them 1 on 1 - butrez every time you down someone and slap your shit if you go for an execute and
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>>169855335
The 1st second of the webm the peacekeeper is hit twice instead of one. That's not supposed to happen.
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>>169855280
you can get ganked in a corner without it though
if anything it's a wonderful balancing factor for dealing with revenge mode gear
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>>169855408

Yeah, I'm finding that out now. Still not sure what all I should be doing, but it's fun. I at least like it aesthetically, and that's going a long way right now.
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>>169855394
I'm not saying he has other moves, just that him being able to throw you back and forth nonstop with no way to escape while his teammates get a free kill is broken as fuck
>>169855442
M8 it's literally a free kill for your team if you catch someone with it once
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Threadly reminder that if you never attack first and only counterattack you have no skill and are killing this game.
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>>169855137
Yeah but I didn't know for sure he was exploiting until the match was over so I'm curious if I can do it after the match
>>169855335
He's attacking twice in one swing. you do it by dropping guard mode and then doing the unblockable during a heavy
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>>169855335
It's a glitched attack that both hits twice and is unblockable/unparriable/undeflectable.

Look closer and you'll note the PK is taking damage before the Shugoki is even done winding up. The weapon doesn't even connect to anything at all for the first hit of damage.
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>>169855539
It's in his class description. "Disabler".
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>>169855039
>he doesn't push people off the ledge
look at this faggot

you can play by whatever made up rules you want, if you go near that ledge you're getting chucked
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>>169855270
>this gif
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>long arm of the law is so fucking slow that a valkryie top attack can hit and cancel you out of it
GOD
FUCKING
DAMN IT
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Can someone post the egg emblem? I just made one and don't like it too much
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>>169855539
You know that you can dodge away from the long-arm-of-the-law spam right?
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>>169854420
Rare hairy japman!
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Anyone on PC want to farm bots 2vsAI overnight? Post your Steam or UPlay

>just want those sweet kensei executions
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>>169854496
what fuckign messenger is that
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itd be really fuckin cool not to get matched against rep 5 108 gs players as a level 3 scrub
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>>169855539
"Why can this class that's designed to control movement control movement of literal cripples who cannot hit the spacebar?"
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>>169855689
you are a no honor faggot. i bet you are a nigger.
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>>169855689
>Average roach thinks hes good
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>>169855862
The tutorial video for Duel mode very clearly says that the environment is fair game and even encourages you to use it to your full advantage.
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>>169854956
>I didn't know for sure he was exploiting until I reviewed the footage.
is this how absent minded peacekeepers can afford to be? You got punched in the face twice and weren't sure if you were hit twice or not? If he didn't have the phantom swing I'd understand not noticing that the parry indicator was gone, I don't use the indicator to parry myself, but getting two clubs for the price of one should be pretty easy to spot.

>>169855335
Unlock your charged heavies and they become unparriable. With proper timing, it'll throw out a phantom swing as you unlock and another as you release the real swing.
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>>169855862
>>169855862
>honor
>in a fucking VIDEO GAME

Jesus christ what a fat nerd

Ledging is fun
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Honest question. I know I'm not actually good at the game and chances are that i will never be but i just want to have fun. The law looks really fun so would he be a good choice for me?
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>>169855862
Tell you what

I think it's dishonorable to watch your teammate get his ass handed to him and risk the match instead of working together to win.

Since honor doesn't mean the same thing to us, I can say that you are an honorless nigger.

>>169855914
I play Shugoki, Kensei, Conq and Warlord
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>>169855862

>be black
>massive weeaboo
>honorable
>until a motherfucker pulls some bitchmade shit

That said using the environment isn't necessarily dishonorable, dude. I personally don't absolutely go for it right away because I want to actually enjoy the fight for longer than a few moments. But I'm not above doing it.

But it's also a fucking video game so quit crying, bitch
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>>169855825
Its xbox one
You can screenshot from the phone app
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>>169855814
pls respond
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>tfw now that i know of the controller 14 frame delay i realize thats why so many of my attacks dont go the way i want them too
>but i dont want to switch to keyboard because i want to actually use this controller for something
>but i want to be good at this game
it fucking hurts
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>>169855786
yours is the same, just make the thing on the lower edge the same color as the oval on the upper part
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>Conq gets a confirmed side heavy off a GB
This is fake news. Don't believe anyone who says this. It can be blocked.
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>>169856006
>and chances are that i will never be
play law war or conq
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>>169856007
Teammates who just sit back and do fuck all in brawls are just awful
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This is ridiculous
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>in queue for 5 mins
>"Very high activity"
>go to brawl vs ai
>"very low activity"
>find someone in 30 sec
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>>169855953
I wasn't sure because (as you said yourself) it is a phantom attack. It's not my responsibility to assume you're going to cheat in order to win at a game.
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>>169856116
Ah, alright.
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How is conqueror considered OP in 1v1? They have NO FEINTS LMAO
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>>169854984
not impossible to be a good crusading samurai
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=== OFFICIAL TIER LIST === 01 MARCH ===
This list is based on high-level play. Feel free to suggest improvements, but please make sure you know what you're talking about.

SSS
>Warlord

S
>Conqueror
>Peacekeeper

A+
>Warden

A
>Shugoki

B
>Orochi
>Nobushi
>Valkyrie*

C
>Kensei**

D+
>Berserker

D
>Raider

F
>Lawbringer

* = With the recent stealth nerf and the tech window increase, Kensei is looking more like C-, however certain players such as Alphastrike6 are demonstrating he is much more viable as you utilise more of his arsenal in creative ways.
** = Recently buffed so still finding its place, leaning towards A.
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>>169856007
>I play Shugoki, Kensei, Conq and Warlord
Then why do you play like a bitch?
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Why is 4v4 Elimination such a salt mine?

I swear to god all I have to do is play warden and constantly light-light, charge cancel into gb, I don't even have to mix it up, and half the other team will scream about how I'm a shitter because they can't roll or tech the obvious fucking GB. I'm fucking cumming.
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>>169856006
Play who you think will be most fun. I'm a Lawman main and I think he's a ton of fun. You're gonna have a hard as hell time against people who know how to fight him though.
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>>169856214
if you can't 1v1 people go to the 4v4 babby modes, shitter
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>>169856334
yeah but it isn't as though you don't feel the hitstun from being punched in the face

if an enemy stand I can't see fucking slugs me it's not like I won't notice it
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>>169856381
fucked up the asterixes, but comment apart from that
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>>169856381
is your Tier list for Duels or for 4v4 as well?
Because PK is the king of Domino and Elimination Imo
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someone teach me warlord rq
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>>169856381
>stream often
>play Kensei
>constantly doing crazy mixups and cancels, dodge attack chains etc.
>literally no one watches my stream
>have to hear about some literally who "innovating" the class

Im only a little mad
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>>169856381
>My main is F ranked because of ubicucks who can't understand that this character is supposed to bring the LAW not the LOL.
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>>169856354
He doesn't need one, bashing them with your shield is the whole game for conq
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>>169856326
>dominion or elim
Needs to find 7 other people

>brawl vs AI
Needs to find 1

Wow rly makes you think
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>>169854335
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>>169856587
>some literally who
well, he beats high level streamers often, maybe if you queued into streamers and beat them often you'd be more popular
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>>169856587
is this where we are supposed to ask what your stream is and you link it
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>>169856517
Would you stop it with the hypotheticals of what you would or wouldn't do? He only got me with it once - and I didn't know what it looked like before. I didn't want to report him unless I knew for sure and that meant getting out of the game and reviewing the footage.

Let me know how to report him or move on man.
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>>169856472
>Why is 4v4 Elimination such a salt mine?
>all I have to do is play warden and constantly light-light, charge cancel into gb.
>shitter because they can't roll or tech the obvious fucking GB

This is bait
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>>169856553
That...I'm ok with that PK kill...
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>>169856381
didn't kensei's dash into overhead cancel get removed?
it looked so smooth
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>>169856451
There's no "like a bitch". I play to win. If you don't like what I do to win then stop me from doing it, I won't find it as effective and I'll stop it in favor of a different tactic that you can then go on to call "cheese" when it beats you.

>>169856514
1v1 is the only 1v1 game mode.
Play 2v2 when you want to play a team mode with gear stats off, play 1v1 when you want a duel.

The bots don't let you duel in 2v2, it's obviously intended for you to work as a team.
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>>169856326
What's your NAT? Mine is green, I have 45 hours in, and ive never once had to wait longer than 90 seconds even for a 4v4 mode match
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>>169856721
that's the stealth nerf
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>>169856472
>baby's first warden fight
Enjoy getting shat on by players who know what they're doing.
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>when even the bots afk dominion
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>>169856756
>The bots don't let you duel in 2v2, it's obviously intended for you to work as a team.
the bots just run to the closest person, and depending on spawn areas it could be the other player

thats it
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>>169854707
my one regret playing on ps quadra is the lack of sweet sweet tears
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>>169856663
>queued into streamers
I have no clue what this means
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Reminder that after the buff Valkyrie is disgustingly broken OP and SSSSSSSSSSS++++++ tier
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>>169856841
No, if one beats your teammate it will join the fight against you.
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>>169856381
In what way is the Warlord better than the Warden or Peacekeeper.
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>>169856381
>I'm calling my opinion official"

LOL how fucking dumb are you man
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>>169856901
... because its programmed to fight anyone whos close to them

do you not know how ai works?
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>>169856914
back to dominion buddy
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>>169856587
just guessing, but you should tell people to watch your stream to start out
the stumbling in viewers usually click on the top few streams on the list so you gotta be active in getting the couple hundred before you get a passive gain
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>>169856706
You say the words - but do you understand it? Do you believe it?
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>>169856756
>There's no "like a bitch".
>I play to win.
>If you don't like what I do to win then stop me from doing it
>go on to call "cheese" when it beats you.
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>>169856940
So the game mode clearly intends for you to fight the nearest person.
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>>169856863
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>>169856451
t. Pisscucker or Orocuck main
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>>169856281
Why? AFK players are doing you a favor since they can't steal your order kills. Who would want to play PvAI otherwise?
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>>169854324
THE LAW can break dance
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>>169856381
Why is conqueror so high up?
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>>169856914
>peacekeeper
better turtling and broken headbutt, if you want an in depth look at it watch the recent final of the 1v1 tournament

>warden
lol

>>169856934
why do you think its wrong?
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>>169857028
bots in fps games wall and aimbot, i guess players are supposed to do that too
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>>169856953
yeah I dunno. I can't even convince a single person I know in real life to watch. Would anyone mind if I advertised here?
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>>169857020
>someone wants to win the game
>lmao tryhard edgelord faggot it's only a game i play for fun rofl
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>>169856965
Not those! Only the first one...
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fixed this meme
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did the make wardens fucking suck or something? I've lost the last 4 duels in a row. I have an 80% win rate. I feel like im slow as fuck now and my attacks barely do anything
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>>169856863
This, valk was balanced before the buff. Players just wanted the same powerhouse pokes as the BROKEN pisskeeper.
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>>169856841
Bro if you want to play two 1v1s that are totally seperate on different parts of the map why are you playing 2v2
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>>169857102
>robots aimbot
you don't say
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>>169857175
yep, and i guess since they do it it's what players are supposed to do as well, right?
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>>169857090
unpunishable shield bash, if you've fought a really good conqueror you're stuck with a turtling conqueror with no way to punish him while he tries to pick a shield bash which you can't counter unless you guess exactly when he does it
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>>169857126
Very well my child
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>>169857139
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>>169857037
>Say hes a bitch for playin roach
>SUPER ROCHI
Read before you post
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>>169856514
Nice conclusion cunt
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>>169857161
>>169856863
Reminder that these two don't know how to side dodge

Reminder that the warden mixup and warlord headbutt are better tools than anything in her kit

Not saying she's not dope now, but she's nowhere near PK and warlord
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>>169857264
its literally what you said
>if im losing my 1v1 and my teammate doesn't help me, he's a cunt
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Valkyrie is NOT beatable without hacking.
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how the fuck do I beat assassin cunts who just dance around me?
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>>169857227
Yeah, the ones where they have time to react are fine...Though that grab lung is pretty crazy.
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>>169856863
nah not broken, but definitely at least shugoki-tier. warden has better vortex and she doesn't compare to peacekeeper/conq/warlord.
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>*gently headbutts u from behind*

baa! >:3
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>>169857096
I don't think it's wrong. I actually agree with it 100%. It's just not "official" and calling it official is arrogant and makes you look autistic as fuck, son
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I just buried my pet lizard /fhg/

can I get some (You)s? its been a rough day
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>>169857123
Read what you're posting.
No really, you're going full retard
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>>169857406
>arrogant
fair enough
>autistic
no need for buzzwords
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>uses revenge in duel
Lmao instantly alt-f4. Enjoy your free win dude. I don't play people who need to use the "press this button to win" mechanic.
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>>169856381
there's no reason for SSS without SS tier

Conq should only be A+ at best since PK can R1 him out of his bash. He's good because he has a better matchup against warlord than PK but the whole "conq beats PK cause allblock" is a meme. Conq stands a chance because he has allblock, he doesn't hard counter her like warlord who can confirm from it.

Raider beats lawbringer in a fight, but I don't think he's any better against the rest of the cast, they may as well be in the same tier. Just let zerker be D and raider be F or F+, he's definitely closer to lawbringer's league than raider's.

I'm also pretty sure you mixed up your asterisks and didn't mention if you're counting the shugo bug as OK or not

>stealth
are you seriously making a tier list with gear modes taken into account? (possibly why you overrated conq imo)

>>169857028
>>169857102
>worrying about intent either way as far as personal decision making goes
I can understand avoiding literal exploit useage but if you intend to have duels there's a duel mode literally right there
Complaining about ganks in 2v2 is like walking into a gay bar and complaining about homoerotica when there was an all-hetero strip club across the street
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>>169857163
because in 2s i dont have to worry about an automatic loss if i run into a bad matchup (PK)
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>>169857391

>*gently hugs u from behind*

*crack*
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>>169857364
no no no they DON'T have time to react because they had no idea I was coming. Stealth Feat removes me from the radar and HUD. Those are MURDERS not FIGHTS
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>>169857143
The patch didn't affect wardens at all, you're just having a shitty night, or you're finally getting marched with people who know how to play against warden
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>>169857205
You're confusing behavior and the mechanism through which the behavior is achieved.

>Bots attack nearest player:script tells them to run toward and engage the nearest player
for honor
>Bots attack nearest player:script tells them where to run toward and shoot the nearest player
quake
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>>169857221
What does he get off of shield bash?
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>>169857427
post pics of lizard
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>>169857427
Rip scalebro
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I'm on console so I don't have the patch yet how unstoppable does it make the Valkyrie because I main Valkyrie and I don't intend to stop just because Ubisoft can't into balance.
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>>169857427
(You)'ll be ok

what kind of lizard was it
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>>169856756
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>>169857427
same senpai
I think one of my professors is dead and last thread someone mentioned that danny devito is going to die in my lifetime
(You)
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>>169857112
it's your life, you decide where to go to hawk your stream, might wanna do some research to see where its not a bannable offense.

if tru3ta1ent can do it, I'm confident that literally anyone else with persistence can pull it off
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>>169855928
>its in the game! that means its honorabru!
kys

>>169856007
>>169856214
if you do a 2v1 in brawl after you win vs your opponent, you are a fag. you should sit back and watch until your teammate dies before you actually try to fight again.
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>>169857427
sorry to hear that anon.
he's in valhalla now feasting with dragons no doubt.
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>>169857427
Hey man, everything dies, it's ok.

Your lizard wouldn't want you to be sad that your lifespan far exceeds his.
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>>169857427
I'm sorry man that fucking sucks. Peace be with your lizardbro
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>>169857427

what kind of lizard was it, bud? old age take it?
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>>169857427
I'm sorry for your loss
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>all these afker's in Dominion

Literal fucking cancer, this entire game.
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>>169857640
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>>169857550
>instead of learning how to win, I'll try and find a teammate who already knows how to win
yeah that'll take you a long way

>>169857640
epic dude but I already said what classes I play

>>169857658
Stop making up rules, or rather keep making them because they make it easier for me but don't expect me to know or follow them.
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>>169857497
>instantly alt-f4. Enjoy your free win dude
you gave him much more
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>>169857143
No changes have been made to Warden nor are they planned.

You're just playing poorly.
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>>169857774
there is no "learning how to block a PK" as a shugoki or lawbringer since its literally, in the literal sense of the word, impossible
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>>169857575
A light and another shield bash

Rinse and repeat
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>>169857737
If anything it just means that reps aren't an indicator of skill, so it's ultimately inconsequential
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>>169857227
pks grab isn't too bad. It's the fact that it tracks you on backdashes that steams my dumplings
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>>169857774
>>169857640
average roaches, super edgy weebs that think they are cool master assassins
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>>169857853
That's literally not true
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>>169857353
i beat tru3ta1ent on stream with a berserker
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>>169857927
those twos guard stances literally cannot keep up with her attacks, they are too slow
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>>169857927
Yes it literally is if you try to change direction twice in a row.

8 frames for first change, then 28 frames for a second.
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OK, so i'm a type of player who enjoys parrying and punishing with GB attacks a lot, i've been playing LB and he's been fun, but i'm curious, can I play Orochi with this style of play, obviously attacking more but still mostly focusing on parrying?
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>everyone just spams dodge
How do I play against cowards?
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>>169857901
As a PK I've been GB by most classes on the backdash. I think Valk's is particularly long too.

I know for sure that the sprinting GB that PK has is a special move and it does have a long range.

Also IDK if other classes have this but I've been doing the Heavy attack into GB a lot and I'm loving it.

You don't hit cancel - just Heavy and then GB its wonderful.
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>>169857520
>there's no reason for SSS without SS tier
fair but i like the look of SSS

>Conq should only be A+
he's a better matchup against warlord, worse against peace keeper
peacekeeper is a better matchup against conqueror, worse against warlord
since you agreed that warlord is SS, by that logic peacekeeper should be the one going down a tier, however since peacekeeper shits on generally anyone she is obviously an S, and conq remains in that position even though he is slightly countered by pk because hes better against warlord

>Just let zerker be D and raider be F or F+, he's definitely closer to lawbringer's league than zerkers.
thats a fair suggestion

>asterisks
yeah i messed them up, i mentioned in first reply

>bug
i'm disregarding all bugs, including zone bugs, the kensei unblockable bug and the shugoki bug

>>>stealth
you misunderstood what i meant by stealth. he was stealth nerfed, meaning that ubisoft didn't announce they were nerfing him.
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>>169858031
find a ledge
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>>169857227
>being a enviornment abusing, dishonorable piece of shit
>peacecucker
not surprised
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>mfw somehow decent with LB in duels and absolutely garbage in 4v4
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>>169858031
Don't attack. There is no reason to attack in this game
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>>169858024
yep, or you can deflect for about 2 bars of damage
orochi's damage is so filthy just about any punish you do will be agonising
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>>169857447
you are mad because someone else is trying to win the game.

that's what i posted.
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>>169857774
>being this assblasted and defensive
It's clearly killing you inside because you know your "wins" weren't earned and no one views you as a legitimate player.
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>>169857737
kek why do people care so much? Im sure reddit is having a fit over this, but I can't understand why anons would care about bot dominion matches
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>>169858031
if they dont have attacks out of dodge, guardbreak

if they do, parry
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>>169858107
How long have you been in this general man
I play to win
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>>169858107
>enviornment abusing
not him but how is using the environment for what its meant to be used for abusing it
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come on son

come on my dude

why you gotta do me like that
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>>169854984
Play Kensei, he's the most honorable character
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>>169858165
It's just so fucking annoying to see some gaggling cunt running in circles, leeching off other players.

He's the literal fucking communist of this game and deserves to be bludgeoned to death with a sock full of doorknobs.
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>>169858159
I am mad because you have no respect.
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Why do people say LB is bad ?
I am pretty new to the game though
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>>169858107
>REEE PLAY BY MY RULES
"no"

>>169858161
I love these tears, there's still no difference between a "legit" win and a "cheesed" win
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I instantly quit against people who use the following:

R1 spam
GB spam
Parry spam
Dodge spam
Enviro kills
Turtling
OP classes

Sorry but if you need gimmicks to beat me I'll instantly quit.
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>>169856381
First tier list ive seen that i agree with
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>>169858287
your girl respects this dick after i kick you off a cliff, fag
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>>169858225
>>169858220
>>169858107
I don't like being tossed into Envirokills, same as most people, but it's part of the game
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>honorbait gets posted
>people actually bite
where do you think we are
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>>169858145
>deflect for 2 bars of damage
mind explaining?
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>>169858321
>tears
You're the one raging through the thread trying to justify cowardly ezwin tactics. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be replying to all of us. Unless you're baiting, in which case you're automatically autistic.
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Does anyone have the original screenshot of Lewdkeeper and that one guy?
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>>169858220
theres no reason why that shugoki grab should have missed
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>>169858159
>>169858378
>>169856756
>>169857774
>>169858321
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>>169858378
>girl
Jokes on you, I'm gay!
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>>169858340
So you stopped playing the game just like me?
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>>169857427
Demo?
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>>169858451
>long hair
>peacekeeper
>long hair
no
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>>169858302
He literally has no tools to initiate whatsoever. His specialty moves are either unsafe to perform or don't actually confirm anything for him. All he has are arguably better options off of a parry. Except those options are easily countered unless you parry a light attack, are easily countered under all circumstances if the opponent has a debuff resist helmet, and it's harder to parry things in the first place because he changes guard positions up to 4x slower than other characters.
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>>169858451
this one?
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>>169858302
Incoming pasta on why law is bad.

In the case of who is the worst, why does anyone even attempt to compare anything to lawbringer?
EVERY class has confirmation damage or combos that deal at LEAST a heavy hit worth of damage. Lawbringer has NOTHING besides a light attack off long arm.

Parry ? Only leads into light slap or GB. Everything else can be blocked/parried.
Parry > Top heavy unblockable? They can literally take 1 step to the side and it misses because it takes too long for it to land and they recover fast enough
Shove? Combos into literally nothing. You can tech the GB and parry any attack he throws out
Parry > Light slap? Does fuck all damage and they can just heal it off
GB > Heavy? Only way to confirm a heavy amount of damage and the combo ends there.
Shove > Literally ANYTHING can be countered

Not to mention his attacks are so slow they can be reactively parried extremely easily. His combo moves rely on throwing heavy attacks into the chain so basically it goes
>Light bonk> parried
And that's the end of the combo.
Or
>Shove > attempt heavy > parried/blocked
And that's the end of the combo.
Or
>Shove > attempt long arm > just dodged back or side step
And that's the end of that non-existant combo.

Please stop trying to say anyone is as bad as lawbringer. He has no combos that aren't fuck all slow because of heavy attacks being a major part of them, and has no confirmation damage off any of his unique moves.


Also image related is everything law can do. NEW TECH is a glitch that lets you deal 5 damage after a shove but requires frame perfect timing and unlocking your camera.
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Man, Darksouls has more honor then this game.
Not to mention you can actually beat ganks in dark souls
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>>169858442
>y-you wouldn't be replying if you weren't mad
I love to see the reasoning behind all the retarded limitations you guys put on yourselves, it's laughable.

You're like the bronzes who cry about fireball spam
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>>169858439
he gets to use an unblockable attack after his deflect that does about 2 bars of damage, it's absolutely filthy

(deflect is using the dodge instead of heavy attack when the attack is about to hit)
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>>169858626
yes sir. thank you.
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>>169858654
ganks are easier to beat in this game than souls, at least in 4v4 because of bullshit revenge gear
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>>169858302
>>169858598
Also, I forgot that he runs out of stamina after ~3-4 actions and is slow in every sense of the word.
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>>169858660
oh I see, what's the input for the unblockable?
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>>169858458
He was too close when he started it
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How do you avoid getting meme'd on in
Apollyon staircase fight on realistic?
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>valkyrie bullies you in the corner with no stamina

YAMEROOOOO!!!!
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>no guarantee's off of parries
>most projected heavies in the game
>least tools in arsenal

How do we fix Raider guys?
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>>169858654
>you can beat ganks in dark souls
>but not in this

do you even KNOW what revenge mode is
when someone has good gear it's actually detrimental to team up on them because they'll half shot you every time they sneeze the instant it procs, if your ally so happens to graze them
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>>169858754
it usually tracks and hits everything except dashes/dodges, which he didnt do
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>>169858759
Keep those two poison bombs from earlier in the level
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>>169858657
I don't expect anyone to follow any limitations. Sure, you beat me within the rules of the game. You increased your arbitrary win %. But when I duel people I actually try to test my skill against theirs, not inflate a meaningless number. If you beat me using your totally legit tactics, yeah, you won, congrats, I can't complain. But I won't respect you as a player and won't regard your win as legitimate or earned.
>w-well I don't care what you think!
Then why are you replying?
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>>169858032
I think it might be a game wide exploit, if i can call it that. I think almost any characters GB will track you if you try to backdash
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>>169858754
[insert webm of shugo turning 45 degrees to grab someone that tried to dodge]
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>>169856587
friendly suggestion
streambig.net
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>>169858735
i have no idea, i don't play him myself, but it's probably heavy attack immediately after the deflect

his damage is just beefy all around, really, especially with his (double overhead light) > guard break/zone attack mixup
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>>169858759
keep parrying the entire apolly fight is parrying
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>>169858759

Focus on deflecting or dash attacking and use second wind often. distance to give your shit time to get off cooldown. It's pretty tedious.
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>>169858795
Maybe he should of said possible to beat ganks without bullshit

This dude used revenge and won each round despite his entire team dying each round and our team all being alive:
>>169858245
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>>169858712
Ehhh, any AoE attacks are instantly negated by a single block, not to mention ganks can put you in an unblockable unCGBable situation where you soak hits.

>>169858795
thats ONLY if you build Revenge, then youre pretty useless outside of revenge. Plus you need to play nearly perfect and get lucky to survive them
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>>169858839
>when I duel people I actually try to test my skill against theirs
So you think positioning and guard breaking or shoving at a crucial time with very high risk doesn't take skill?
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>>169858864
As far as I can tell, GB only checks range at the start of the animation. If you're in range then you'll connect the GB attempt. If they're dodging then you'll get pulled along with them.

GB is supposed to counter dodging, and it would do a pretty shit job of that if you could just dodge GB's.
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>>169858759
MOST IMPORTANT PART IS PATIENCE
for the 1st and 3rd part, if your feats are on cooldown just RP as Orochi and run away from her in a circle, kiting along the edges of the room


1st part make sure you kill the first, doesn't have to be asap

2nd part parry lol

3rd part kite when needed and dodge the catapults
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Stop deploying war assets against the knights.

I'm sick of your discriminating and biased deploys
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>>169858276
Why are you playing bot dom matches anyway? Mosy quests are just for kills, so it should effect you anyway. If anything it helps since you dont have to fight other people for kills and executions

>>169858839
*tips fedora
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>>169858773
>no guarantee off parry
Light attack.
Grab them > Start run > Either throw them off a cliff, run them into a wall for top heavy, or they land on the ground for an unblockable heavy
>Most projected heavies in the game
Lawbringer's heavies are in fact slower than his in every direction except if he grabs you.
>least tools
Soft feint into head bonk that stuns fast as fuck
Zone is a top feint that is fast, but not as fast as warden or orochi zone
Unblockable, feint, unblockable again instantly
Unblockable grab that cannot be teched, but can be side stepped, carrying you across the map off a ledge, into a wall, or just dropping them on the ground for a free unblockable heavy
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Guys I need help. I'm seriously about to quit. I literally cannot deal with dodge spam. I can deal with GB, I can parry, I can do all that no problem. But I CAN NOT deal with dodge spamming assassins who just wait for me to attack then punish me. It isn't fair.
>just GB!
They wait until I'm in the attack animation so I can't even cancel into GB. Or it's a Pisskeeper who's attacks are so fast she just slaps me out of GB before I get to her.

I can't deal with this and it's every fucking match that some assassincuck just spams dodge. There needs to be a better hard counter to dodging.
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>>169859057
kill the two reinforcements first*
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>>169858839
>But I won't respect you as a player and won't regard your win as legitimate or earned.

lol
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>>169859129
>They wait until I'm in the attack animation
Feint you fool!
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>>169858768
>getting cornered in the first place
You have no one to blame but yourself.
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>>169859129
but you can cancel into GB
you really just gotta get good (or quit)
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>>169859113
>resorts to le hat joke after getting BTFO
I should have expected this
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>>169859129
Feint your attack and wait for them to counter attack so you can light parry.
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>>169859129
Zone attacks
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>>169859129
Feint heavies to bait them into dodging, then GB. Or just wait from them to initiate first.
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>>169858882
This looks like an autistic amount of hard work
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>check patch
>no Kensei nerfs
>heartily chuckle as I realize my uninstall was the way to go
lmao

and just like all the other times, the Kensei mains will come to his defense and say it was rightful of him not being nerfed

Fucking cancerous fags.
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>>169858974
>thats ONLY if you build Revenge
with revenge gear it takes 2 blocks, or even getting hit twice

thats it
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>>169859221
>>169859238
Not every character has feints.

You're telling me I need to play a certain character to counter one of the most prevalent tactics in the game? Bravo, Ubi.
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>>169859025
>Using aimbots or anything that makes the game babyeasy is skill guys!
>CGB me 6 times? Whoops you missed the 7th, off the ledge you go!
>I am truly the better player.
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>>169859316
parry

this kills the kensei
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>>169859316
>i'm right
>anyone evidence saying I'm wrong is not valid

if only your deflects were this good in game, you would have a problem with Kensei
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>>169859028
Lol wait no. A GuardBreak should be an option against a defensive player, not a fatjap grab. There is far too much emphasis on GBs in this game
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>>169859316

what did the mean kensei do to you today, anon?

don't worry, i'm a shugoker, you can tell me.
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>>169859358
>standing near the ledge after SIX ATTEMPTS
But it's my fault you fell off, right?
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>>169859316
There is honestly nothing wrong with kensei.

t.no main
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>>169859326
jeeze laweez what character are you playing then

Conq can't feint but he's the hardest for me to beat as an orochi
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>>169859372
>falling for the bait

>>169859326
>Not every character has feints.
every character has their own way to deal with it, i think it's a git gud issue
kensei main here, before you assume i'm a pisskeeper main
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>>169859326
if you're playing conq just enter full block stance, that's his way of feinting
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>>169859298
unless you luck into fame or new game hype, you gotta put effort into it

dunno what >>169858882 is but if you gotta pull all the stops if you really want to make something out of a dream
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>>169859238
What was wrong with the second clip? He feinted the zone attack and was already in the correct guard before starting it.
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>>169859485
Conq lol. That's literally his biggest weakness. I have no option against an assassin who just waits for me to swing then dodge attacks. I have no clue what to do about it.
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>>169859372
>>169859387
>>169859438
>>169859445
Man, KIDF sure is out in force today
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>>169859568
Defend what, you didn't even say what ne needed nerfed
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>>169859554
That isn't even close to Conq's biggest weakness.

His biggest weakness is not being able to secure a kill off a parry on a minimum health enemy because his heavy deals under 25 damage.
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>169859125
Grab isnt guaranteed after parry, you throw them to far away. The light isnt guaranteed either they have time to block

Against people who know raider they will hold guard up so if u feint the heavy the block is available. Then if u dont feint the heavy they just parry you

Unblockable feint unblockable puts u 100% out of stamina so if they dodge it u get punished hard
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>>169859358
Anon, have you seen the maps? There are ledges, fire, spikes, holes everywhere. 80% of the game is being next to an environmental hazard, and most of them kill you with a single CGB mess up
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>>169859529
Nothing really wrong with it - but this fucker blocked me every time unless he was attacking - and then he started feinting to block more.
Pissed me the hell off
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>>169859628
whos bright idea was that
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>>169857427
Sorry for your loss
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>>169859615
If I need to tell you then youre just a retard.
Let me tell ya, mr. Retard.

KENSEI DO TOO BIG DAMAGE

HE TOO BIG RANGE

HE TOO MUCH FAST

Did you get that, fuckface?

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>169859554
>mains the class that passively kills combos
>has trouble with assassins
wath
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>>169859358
meant for
>>169859441
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>>169857078
how?
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>>169859636
This is such a weak excuse, there are duel spots on every 1v1 map
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>>169859554
>I'm close to quitting because my hard-counter kills me
Try something else then.
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>>169859719
Are you alright?
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>>169859129
I said a few threads back that iframes would kill this game. Le dark souls roll or BB dash should not make you immune

>>169859246
kek
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>>169857865

I dunno I heavy people all the time after shield bashing
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>>169859719
His heavies don't even do that much more damage than like Orochi.

Range is offset by some of the slowest lights, just poke.

Too fast? Hes real fucking slow for a vanguard, even raider has taps.
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>>169859751
Okay, I'll just go stand by there while you hug the ledge until the game servers are shut down
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>>169859719
How bad are you?

You're getting tilted by probably the most mediocre character in the game. He's not bad, he's just way outshined by others. Kensei is as average as average can be, and you're bitching about it.
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>tfw you get someone that was running away reviving nerds
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>>169859358
>missing any gbs
>taking fights next to ledges if you're shit at teching
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>>169859751
Just stand far far away from all hazards if you're gonna be a bitch about it
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>>169859756
The only other class I really enjoy playing is Berserker and he's shit-tier right now in this bullshit defensive parry meta.

>>169859725
Because they don't even do combos. They just wait around like idiots refusing to attack so I try to attack first and they dodge attack me. This "don't attack first" meta is garbage.
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>>169859827
>I'm too impatient to prove my point
If they don't come over why don't you just taunt them in the chat? Every time someone has tried to do it to me they'll charge after an "afraid?"
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>>169859756
Fighting games shouldn't have hard counters, this isn't league.

>>169859857
I like how catapult is faster and does more damage then the T2 arrows storm Nobushi gets.
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>>169859878
>>169859827
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>>169857161
Pre-buff Valkyrie had a 36% winrate in duels. That was far below the acceptable margin.
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>>169859326
>having difficulty against assassins with fucking conqueror
Wow.
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>>169856759
yellow. I opened all the ports and still yellow.
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>>169859928
You're playing a character who can't parry.
Learn to deal with it or play something else! Conq is considered High Tier this is your fault
Also
>Mad that T4 feat is better than T2 feat
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>>169859928
most fighting games have hard counters
>3s
>chun vs everyone but yun
>sf4
>sagat vs gief
>guile vs bison
>sf5
>gief vs akuma
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>>169859719
You forgot

HE IS TOO PREDICTABLE

HE IS EASY PARRYABLE
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I-I just want to parry with Lawbringer

My mind says parry but i just can't get the timing down with my hands+slow guard change.
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>>169859920
The hypocrisy in this post is hilarious considering you use ledges in duels.
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>>169860051
please stop replying to the kensei baiter, you're only making him want to do it more
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>>169860097
>I have a 90% life lead
>he runs to the ledge
No, I don't use the ledge in that scenario. It's risky and not the best way to win. If he has a 90% life lead I will definitely try to work him toward the ledge, if he's not smart enough to hold the advantage then I don't feel bad about attempting to revert his lead to a 50/50.
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>>169860212
"Afraid?"
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>>169860007
Please teach me your wise ways o all-knowing senpai. If it's so simple to beat an assassin who refuses to attack first, teach me how.

Reminder that assassins are the hard counter to heavies.
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>>169860061
>do great with lawbringer
>all of a sudden for the past week i have been total shit
>lost all ability to parry, and even block
>its gotten to the point where i have almost punched my wall because of this
i just fucking cant do it anymore
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FUCK LEWDBRINGER GAHHH
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>>169860338
right now assassisn hard counter anyone
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>>169859737
I've got skill.
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>>169860338
shield bash + gbs
keeps using them and light pokes until you force aggression
be patient since you're playing the fucking turtle class
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>>169860338
What do heavies even counter?
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>>169860320
"Why, are you?"
*taunts*
I'm not going to give up the ghost that easily, I'm just saying that most people will, and you damn well might after the retort.
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our guy
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are those champion boosts worth purchasing with steel? thinking about grabbing one for the weekend. Does it make a big enough difference?
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>>169860407
>They dodge shield bash because you're glowing like a Vegas sign and do as they please
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>>169858458
>>169858754
>>169858805
>>169858876
shugoki is fucking broken
he is my highest level character and his shit just doesn't work ALOT of the time.

ive had to hit down and X THREE times before he would do a grab, the other two just him whiffing gaurd breaks. his demon's charage apperently only works if you run straight into soemone who isn't moving, because i hit people in the back and just slide next to them.

and i FUCKING LOVE how the ONLY way to gaurentee a demon grab is to throw them into the wall first, but you are liable to deplete their stamina on the wall hit so they fall down, and OBVIOUSLY you can't grab anyone on the the ground, that wouldn't be fair :^)
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>>169860432
I stomp orrochis pretty often as a heavy though. It seems like conquer and shugoki are good at killing heavies.
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>>169860460
>the two then sit until the servers are shut down.
Thanks for proving my point.
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What are the rules for winning dominion.

I just won a game even though 2 or 3 of the enemies were still alive. Can someone explain?
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>>169860338
>assassins are the hard counter to heavies
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everytime i move he runs away

Its down to 2 minutes left and hes still just sitting there spinning in circles throwing flower petals everywhere

this is a rep 6 roach

i alt tabbed to go do something else since he wouldnt participate and then i get kicked for inactivity. Welp.
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>final 2 bosses are wardens
>they're the most unfun and worst bosses in the campaign
Really gets my noggin joggin.
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>>169855039
>being this mad
He bought the game you dumb nigger. Dont tell him what faction to join you turbo autist. This post is the reason /fhg/ is filled with cancer.
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>>169859316
>>169859445
Bait
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>>169860607
>switch stance and swing AND hit before you can even change stance
>literally just spam light mix up until dead
>literally CAN'T dodge out of the way, or parry
how the fuck are those cancerous shits not counters to heavies?
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>>169860526
only worth it if you plan to powerlevel a character

it returns 0 (zero) steel

that said if you were attempting to play the other day when the servers were fucked, ubi is giving you and the rest of us champion status this weekend so hold off
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>Dispensing the LAW
>Mowwing down dozens of mooks at a time at B for my daily order.
>A conqueror approaches. The filthy lawbreaker.
>He does his usual "Lol perfect defense" thing
>Then he throws a light attack
>THIS IS MY CHANCE
>Parry that shit
>AD MORTEM IMMICUS!
>he parries it...
The fuck was that shit? Debuff hat stripping law's only confirmed damage higher than 10 away from him?
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>>169858041
>he's a better matchup against warlord
He has a better matchup against warlord than peacekeeper does, but that's mostly due to the fact that peacekeeper has a really bad one. Conq is still only even against lord at best.

To my understanding, S and SS or A and A+ etc only exist to distinguish matchups within the tier. To the rest of the class, SS and S should be more or less the same, as should A and A+ (hence why I suggested letting raider be F+, but still in LB's tier). I think that from the eyes of the rest of the cast, WL and PK are better than Conq and Ward; this is what warrants an S/A distinction rather than a +/- sort of distinction.
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>>169860621
>"why are you so mad, lol"
>leave
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>>169860621
>cancer lawbringer
>come here cancer boy!
>lmao
>playing lawbringer hahaha

What the fuck man
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>>169860683
>Bounce off of Conq because shield
>Bounce off of Warlord because shield
>Shugoki has his dick tickled while he trades a hit with you
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>>169860372
Dunning-Kruger effect bud. Sounds like you're in the trough, which is good news really.
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>>169860578
That doesn't actually happen though if you try it.

I guarantee they'll come to you before the time limit expires, patience is a virtue
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>>169860683
you honestly sound like a total retard
if you can't even fucking use BLOCK as the BLOCKING CLASS you should just uninstall
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>>169860564

>they fall over as my hug winds up

A SPECIAL KIND OF HELL
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>>169860790
>trading with shugoki has an assasin
nigga assassin attacks (and wardens double light) break his armor instantly before his attack will connect
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>>169860885
Alright. Post a webm of people doing it. It's easy, I assume
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>>169860780
You're in luck son
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>>169860943
not him but I know PK has that doublestab which should work

I don't think standing R1s do
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>>169860943
why would i have a webm of an orochi doing top light to a shugoki, its not a special circumstance
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>>169858031

If they're not attacking, GB them. I had no idea they couldn't counter it during a dodge, so I've been using it liberally lately.
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>>169860885
Rep 4 Shugoki here, you're completely wrong.
It's generally how to beat assassins, let them trade into a light + headbutt then back away for your armor to return
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>>169860857
Shugoki isn't a tank as the other heavies are as in defensively. He is more grab offensive character
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>>169860662
>Conqueror's are cancer
>Conqueror bots are cancer

really makes me think
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>>169861017
Then it shouldn't be difficult, right?
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>>169860497
Shady! I know you from /dbdg/, I made you rage quit by teabagging you in an exit gate. On two seperate occasions! Lol! Not surprised you play PK. Do you DC when you get ledged? ;)
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>>169860979
i'd report him and attach those pics
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>>169860790
this
>>169860885
you are fucking stupid, i never have my hyper armor up as shugoki becuase any fucking instant poke from a nigger assassin breaks it.
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>>169860857
>shugoki
>blocking class
he, lawbringer, raider and nobushi have the worst blocks in the game
if he was a blocking class why does he have hyperarmor and a comeback-attack that requires taking damage for maximum output? He's a fatty, not a blocker.
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>>169861049
im a rep 5 and im completely right, stop fighting bots
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>skirmish for an order
>ungeared
>enemy team has 2 people above 90, they all stay in a group of 4, spam environmental/cheese shit the whole time
The highest gear level on my team was 5, why the fuck is the matchmaking so bad
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>>169860695
ubi said that punish time reduction on parry was a bug and that they're looking to fix it
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>>169860979
kek
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>>169861196
Alright prove it, fuckboy.
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>>169860864
>you bleed out as you grab them
this has happened TWICE
so fucking mad both times. once vs a noobushi, and again vs a fucking peacekeeper.

they were on my FUCKING SHOULDER and then i just die and they fall to the ground unhurt.

its literal aids.

>>169860943
>>169861008
ive had a fucking peacekeeper kill me with that dobule stab shit, he knocked me out of a critical grab WITH hyper armor
>>
What the fuck does FHTR mean in the PVP stat tracker??
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>>169861172
Maybe you should try not being awful at shugoki
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>>169860943
>>169861085
>>169861296
are you the guy who can't dodge shugokis charge, too? lmao holy shit dude
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>>169861239
>why the fuck is the matchmaking so bad
because there isnt any
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>>169861187
>>169861051

how about you retards read before posting? nobody mentioned Shugoki he was talking about Conq >>169859326>>169860007
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>>169861383
the conversation evolved to include all heavies
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>>169861318
>This entire post
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Did lawbringer get buffed or are people just better at him?
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is there ANY class that doesnt incite rage every time you win? pic related was a PK who didnt like my valk vortex
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>>169861383
someone used the word "heavies"
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>>169861493
No. People hate losing.
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>>169860943
Rep 5 shugoki here, you literally can not block peacekeepers follow up light, its a 33/33/33% chance you guess where its coming from, you can't reaction block it its humanely impossible.

Shugoki memes every other assassin, I think zerker dies in three heavys lmao.
Orochi is just agressive warden.

You're completely at peacekeeper mercy until she runs out of stam if she breaks hyper armor, can't even block then light and headbutt
On some level valk as well.
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>>169861493
well, im lawbringer, so everyone pretty much feels shame when they lose.
>>
Why does femWarden go "AWOOOOOOOOOOOO" when she goes into Revenge Mode.
>>
kek just finished eating and was about to play again until I saw this little nugget. Why do cucks take the bot matches so seriously?
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>>169861493
valk confirmed balanced hero
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>>169860790
>Shugoki has his dick tickled while he trades a hit with you
all you have to do is guard break him and his shield goes down. It doesn't even have to be a successful guard break; if he techs it his shield still goes down. Once his shield is down he takes extra damage.
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>>169861493
fighting games and card games online get me salty

card games because people can take forever for their turn and im staring at a comp screen instead of a person

fighting games I can't explain, I just get angry when I lose for no reason, I never say shit though since I know I must've done something wrong to lose
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>>169861491
Lawbringer arguably got nerfed since a lot of his damage came from exploiting shitters' inability to tech GB's and GB's are 10x easier to tech now.

The people who still play him are masochists who refuse to let go and just get refined in the crucible of misery.
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>>169861582
he was talking about trading not blocking
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>>169861458
>Twenty precent of this post
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>>169861663
last one and ill stop spamming the thread.
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>>169861458
assassins are fucking cancer that require zero skill.

>>169861582
pretty sure orochi spamming lights is just as bad as peacecucker
>until peacecuck runs out of stamina
so she can just dodge back 4 times or sprint backwards until her stamina regens and you can't do anything about it because she is twice as fast as you? man, so fair.
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feels good being able to beat any class with ease
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>>169861318

>break roachie back for them health gains
>his partner is just light attack spamming my back while goki is doing his roaring animation

I think i'd trade the enemy not being able to be hit during back breaker in return for goki not being able to be hit during back break too. They should enter their own invulnerability phase during that. But then i guess he'd lose a lot of 4v4 utility if that were the case.
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>>169861619
>censor your stupid name
>but not your stupid name in chat

Should change it to YoSoyPendejo.
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>>169861805
fuck off valk shitter
you retards are almost as bad as PKs ever since the patch
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>>169860804
>Sounds like you're in the trough, which is good news really.
I hope so. Im legit developing anger problems, and whats worse is that i can feel the slow. I can tell that im reacting half a second late
every
time
I know i can parry that
but
i
cant
even
move
my
guard
there
help
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>>169861619
oh and you will never guess what emblem he has
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>>169861781
trading involves having hyper armor, hes saying how piss easy it is to remove with peacekeeper

peacekeeper is literally shugokis hard counter, if you struggle with him as a PK you should honestly just kill yourself
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>>169857078
How?
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>>169861769
i get really salty in fighting games when i lose because i fuck up an input, which happens a lot for me. when i was learning valk i kept pulling back on the right stick instead of the left to do the sweep and it caused me to lose a few games. got really salty over it
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>>169861663
I hope he knows that you don't need to land a single hit to get to the last attack in the combo unless the combo sheet says you have to land it
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What the fuck does FHTR mean in the PVP Tracker.

Also Post mains.
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>>169854956
YouTube deserve it dirtbag
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>>169861831
>pretty sure orochi spamming lights is just as bad as peacecucker
nah, his sides are very slow. You can basically expect them to always be attacking from the top, and the sides are easy enough to parry even if you don't expect them
>>
>>169861864
Should we tell 'em?
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>>169860979
gods work anon
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>>169861986
he actually changed the lawbringer matchup, I think he knows
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>>169861673
>even if you counter gaurd break, it still breaks hyper armor
this has to be a bug, it can't be intentional. because that is fucking retarded.
and even if its a bug, it will never get fixed cause shugoki isn't a popular character (AKA. spam lights to win assassin)

>>169861885
again, shugoki isn't popular enough, balance and bug fixes NEVER EVER
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>>169861967
Did you not click the question mark button next to that phrase?
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>>169861929
I have amazing skill
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>>169861985
orochi has the top-light zone attack 50/50-if-you-have-slow-reactions.

zone attacks in general are REALLY irritating to deal with, purely because they sometimes flash the wrong direction on startup
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>>169861926
jesus christ do you not understand what trading is? you're supposed to be hit and lose your armor, time it right and you can hit her with a light + headbutt and back off for your armor to return

I main shugoki and i have just as much trouble dealing with PK as everyone else, she doesn't counter him as much as she counters anyone
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>>169854956
lol that bug is inconsistent, but i hardly ever use lights because they are shit, that unblockable is great though.
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>>169859074
I only deploy against the vikings.

Their assault has gone unpunished for too long.
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>bots have a 100% Guard Break tech rate when they are out of Stamina

What's the point of this shit?
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>>169862076
If it's a bug, then still all you need is a guard break. All his combos are only two hits and his heavies are slow, so it's easy to tell when he's stuck in recovery after a hit; then you guard break. With orochi I'll do a double overhead then a zone attack and that's two bars off a shugoki.
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>>169861929
I just realized that I am doing the animation of the abyss watcher watcher weapon art spin move.

>>169861967
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>>169862172
do you not understand that you should never have armor up against a peacekeeper?
>back off
>against a peacekeeper
uhh
>i main shugoki
clearly not
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>>169862254
to make you get better? don't play against bots if you want to exploit fuckups
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>>169861967
I went with the "basic edgelord bitch 15000 combo pack" instead of salvage packs.

Don't regret a thing.
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>>169862290
How is a bot having a 100% tech rate going to make me better?
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>>169862274
thats a good emblem, but it would probably look better with the actual reichsadler looking bird you get from the knight campaign (i think)
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>>169862368
because some guard breaks are untechable you fucking retard
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>>169862141
I know, but he won't be able to spam it if you're expecting it and just guarding top. You guard top, and that forces him to either guard break or use his slow sides. The zone is hard to see coming, but you can't spam that without losing all your stamina. Also it always comes from the right, but it feints left really quickly
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>>169862254
the guys I watch bait parries from out of stam people since they want to push them away for regen time
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>>169862285
so you're just shitposting at this point right? surely nobody is this much of a shitter
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>>169862256
youre playing against bad shugos. Good shugos unlock in neutral and do charge/gb/sprinting heavy mixups to get in, they dont poke with heavies. if a shugo is ever "stuck in recovery" they done fucked up
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>>169862368
basically what he >>169862396 said, gbs done immediately after a parry or during an opponents dash are untechable. I suspect the ones that are done at the start of a heavy attack are too, but I haven't tested it too much.
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>>169862486
here's the thing

if you parry you can't immediately gb because assassins can just dodge backwards

how the fuck do you deal with that?
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>>169862421
so you're just shitposting at this point right? surely nobody is this much of a shitter
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>>169861986
>>169862035
tell me what
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>>169862401
it feints the direction youre holding when you GB. its caused by hitting light attack a frame before heavy attack, so the game thinks youre light attacking in the direction you hold before realizing youre actually zone attacking. This is made worse by lag interpolation
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>>169862172
yeah, but he needs to actually defend himself after getting that first trade, otherwise his armor won't come back. Against a shugoki that lets you pressure, a PK can just accept a bad trade to remove the hyperarmor then go ham to compensate without ever letting him get it back. Shugoki's only safe way to deal with her is to grab and golf swing when she strikes his armor for distance, so that he has enough distance to flee till his armor is back. This goes double for him now that his running attack got nerfed, which really damaged his neutral game.
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>>169862463
Sure, but I'm not gonna start writing a wall of text about all the possible feint combos and stuff. Basic idea is wait for the right moment for a guard break. Improvise from there
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Is this game actually worth the $60 at this point on PS4?
I need a game that I can just sink endless amounts of time into so I can game without getting bored too quickly. I don't have much expendable income these days so I need to get the most out of every game I buy.
Nioh ended being a bit of a bust in that regard.
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>>169862463
What? sprinting heavy is hard as shit to land
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>>169862595
if you want to see a character's matchups you look at the row not the column, that's why averages are on the right
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>click anywhere that isn't a button
>buy steel page opens
Fuck off ubisoft
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>>169862463
those aren't as effective against assassins because dodge + attack counters both the charge and grab options, so you'd have to charge, stop in front of them, and parry the side attack
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>>169862389
This one?
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>>169862595
You're looking at it wrong, that's the matchup for every other class fighting against raider.

It means he loses to just about everyone.
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>>169862606
Didn't know that, I assumed the feint was a feature not a bug
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is valkyrie any better? i can't seem to play with her right. people just dodge my shield crushes, and she is impossible to play against bots because even level 2 bots will aimbot you and the only way to kill them is cheesing them with chip damage after obvious shit that no real player would do.
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>>169860979
REPORT TO THE LAW
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Why can't I fucking gb after a blocked heavy or light when they get knocked back?

I never know when I should gb so I end up gb when they swing
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>>169862639
I'd say yes
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Fuck armor, I deflect swords with my ANGER
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>>169862545
if they do that I use the quick love tap the Lawbringer has to at least confirm damage, and start a chain, and mix up the heavies of the light, heavy heavy combo with feints to try to catch a parry attempt with a parry of my own or zone attacks to get some damage on dashes.
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>>169862802
yeah. like I said I'm pretty sure its in the knight campaign
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>>169862805
yeah maybe if ubi was competent theyd put zone attack on an actual button thats not being used for anything useful (COUGH L1 COUGH) instead of r1 r2 combo
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>>169862396
and how does that apply to bots who have a 100% tech rate when they're out of stamina and they don't attack to initiate a parry you fucking moron?
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>>169862861
it's an autistic mechanic built in to force you to only gb after parries
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>>169861896
???? she didn't even get that much better
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>>169862876
Is the PC community still dying?
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>>169862934
id prefer guard break be moved to l1 and zone attack to square or something
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>>169861087
>still spazzing out about how i denied you 5k points twice

anyway i was playing pk as a joke. was running duels with that guy for about a half hour and was just messing around letting him kill me as pk
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>>169862898
Real talk revenge should not be in 1v1 or 2v2
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Is the patch seriously not out on consoles yet? If I get fucking GBd with no option to tech after another block, and thrown into a fucking insta kill vacuum by a guy who hasnt landed a single hit the whole fight, I'm seriously done with this shit. Holy fuck.
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>>169862938
Dodge a heavy, guard break on recovery. Or guard break when they dodge
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>>169863025
What the fuck is up with guardbreak lunges?
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>>169863014
LOL, I don't need 10k bloodpoints, I just love reminding you of how mad I made you!!!11!! It's funny to me that I made you mad. :p

C u on the battlefield my fellow honorable warrior XD
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>tfw have literally never gb countered on purpose
>tfw can't even do it in training
How are you supposed to react to this 1/3 of a second window?
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>>169863167
you guardbreak when they contact you
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>>169863167
You just get used to it. Practice against a lvl 3 PK in custom match and you'll get used to it after not too long. Seems hard at first but becomes second nature
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Is there a reason why thy caution sign lies over mine holiest of warriors?
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>>169863136
GB's are intended to counter dodging.
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>>169863167
After the patch you can literally start mashing GB when you see them start their attempt and you'll counter
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>>169863217
It means your inventory is getting full.
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>>169862838
dont use shield crush except sparingly as a mixup tool. your basic gameplan is to whiff a light, then hit a light (your 2nd light is very fast similar to PK) and combo to sweep for a free overhead heavy that combos into a 2nd light which combos into sweep, rinse repeat.

when they start dodging your sweep, replace it with a GB for the 50/50 mixup similar to warden.

remember, any time you land a heavy you can follow it with light->sweep/gb->heavy->light->sweep/gb. its the core of playing valk.
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>Met cool Nobushi while playing duels, he beat me fair and square
>We team up and we go into 2v2
>Literally every single enemy ragequits after getting buttblasted, complaining about "guardbreak spam" and other silly stuff, never seen shit like this on duels
>Playing another 2v2, my new friend crashes on the last round of a close game and we lose
>Ready game without thinking, get a bot teammate against the same guys
>Win by playing super patiently with bot friend
>Go back to duel
>Get matched against rep 8 and hand his ass to him
So much salt in such a short timeframe, someone stop the Conqueror, he is a mad man
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>>169863217
your warden inventory's close to getting full
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>>169863213
>>169863167
Also, get familiar with when different characters tend to guard break. Don't just completely forget about guard breaking and expect your reflexes to kick in when the icon pops up. You can react much quicker when you expect it to come.
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WHY DOES IT SEEM LIKE BOTS FUCKING TELEPORT FORWARD TO GRAB ME? AND WHEN I GB IT ALWAYS FUCKING WHIFFS
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>>169863136
>play shugoki
>sometimes can gb from a decent distance, like normal
> other times he just throws his arms up, you have to be face fucking them to hit
> meanwhile assassins fly across the map to gaurdbreak from 50 miles away
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>>169863025
Agree for 1v1, but 2v2 it's needed in case of ganks.
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holy shit. it's been weeks since this game came out. why the fuck don't the servers work still? gotta wait 30 seconds after each match because my stats won't send, what a bunch of fucking bullshit. disconnects out the ass, even in fucking duel mode. fuck this waste of money, i gave it plenty of time to get its shit together
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>>169863217

It means BACK THE FUCK OFF!?!?!?!?
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>>169863493
Look at this yellow NAT peasant
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>>169863265
>>169863338

appreciate it, fellow christians.

also what the hell is going on here.

CEASE THIS WEEBS.

I SAID CEASE!
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I'm not special snowflake that always wants to play the.least popular characters. I started playing shugoki, but.now.he.is.getting.main.stream should I switch to Valkerie?
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>>169854842
Because For Honor doesn't have a rotating 1v1 team mode, or any kind of lobby. Elim is the closest you can get to 1v1 team matches, even if it's not really that.
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>>169863710
tfw all ports forwarded and still yellow NAT
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>>169863727
>mfw knights stronghold is gonna get touched again
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>>169857427
rip
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>>169863742
Shugoki has been popular for a while now.
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>>169859719

Kensei is well-rounded but isn't ridiculous at all. He's not great, he's not awful, he's just right in the middle and about as honest as you can get.

He's enjoyable to play as and enjoyable to play against.

>former Kensei main, currently on an adventure to learn the rest of the cast before I allow myself to return to maximum samurai comfort
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>>169863742
Valk just got buffed so everyone is going to play her. I dont see many Raiders though, you could take that up.
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>>169863727

I know of no reason
why the week 1 treason
should ever be forgot
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>>169863727
I really think there is a bug where war assets are only distributed against Knights if left unattended between matches
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>>169861673

Wait what, seriously? GB breaks the armor, because that's been my biggest issue with Shugoki?
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>>169863727
we're pretty out numbered, we gotta play more than their most dedicated players and that technically impossible since someones gonna be pulling the 24/7 not to mention that has to apply to every knight
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>>169863781
Touched? How are the knights going to be touched? And where?
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Did they seriously remove the player count in this last update?
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>>169863854
>vangaurds
Get that pleb shit out of here those classes are so boring
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>>169863742
Either Berserk of Lawbringer, the ultimate hipster classes
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>>169863926
I just rocked your world
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are there rewards for completing story mode on each difficulty or just the hardest
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So... when will the ps4 receive the new patch?
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>>169864108
who knows; whenever sony approves of the patch. All patches have to be approved for consoles by the companies
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>play Conque
>vs peacecuck or roach
>spam light infinite chain change ups
> they can't deal with their own cancer
> complain after they lose
>mfw
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>>169864000
>ultimate hipster classes
>not kensei
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I just got my first blue quality weapon and it has huge defense on it, but at a hefty loss of a attack. What does does the defense stat do on a weapon? I don't recall taking any damage from blocking attacks, unless against a conqueror with a feat. Is defense a weapon stat I should be looking for if it's high enough? I was mostly looking for attack since I'm playing shugoki right now, but I never find any high attack ones.
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>>169864000
Femzerker is the only assassin I will play
.
.

.

I like her girlcock :3
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>>169863781
you can touch me any time smug anime poster

just kidding fuck off
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>>169864251
this
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>>169863948
On their dicks
By Nobushi
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>>169864406
how many manslaves will she take before she is stopped

we're running out of lawbringers and mwardens
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>>169864251
>>169864364
I see so many kenseis in everything but duel
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>>169864473
She'll never be satisfied!
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Please don't play Kensei
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>Server issues locked one of my baseline colors, even though it was still selected
>If I switch off of it, I can't go back to select it again
It's the little things that drive me up the wall.
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>>169864586
lies
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>>169864708
>I can't fucking select "Storm"
I'm mad.
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Had a 70%+ w/r on valk in duels before patch, about to play her tomorrow, will I crush everyone?
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>>169861967
basic bitch status right now, do conqs get some more pot helmets or is the default the only one
also should i save my funbucks until i hit higher prestiges, i dont care about stats only looking baller
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Why in the fuck is nobody carrying sheathes or scabbards? Everyone's freeballing their swords and daggers and axes all over the place. The Orochi basically sheathes his blade through his hand when he's idle. I get the whole "you only throw away your scabbard when you're prepared to die" mentality, but show a little respect for the weapons.
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>>169864929
yeah that bugged me a lot every time illidan would sheathe his sword with gravity, same with apollyon
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>>169864929

Probably because in the middle of combat, scabbards get in the way. Scabbards are good for carrying it when you don't plan to use it but it's a waste of time to unsheathe it. Just holding it at your side is a similar thing, but doesn't get in the way or make it hard to unsheathe it.

The weapon is basically at the ready at all times rather than in a case.
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>>169864929
>'sheathe' noises constantly happen in the campaign
>no one ever even has one when the noises happen
I think they just make the sounds with their mouths, and everyone is too into it to make fun of the others
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As a Rep 2 Conq I'm starting to notice that its literally impossible for us to make an opening that doesn't involve Shield Bash which understandably, becomes a nuisance over the course of a duel. I've been trying to be somewhat offensive this whole time but as I'm starting to fight higher rep players I get my shit parried and half my bar drops after a flurry of feints and sidesteps I can't keep up with. I really don't want to become a turtle but its slowly becoming my only option.
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>>169864929
you didn't put a sword in a scabbard unless you were travelling
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>>169864738
>I require your strongest potions
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>>169864919
>also should i save my funbucks until i hit higher prestiges, i dont care about stats only looking baller

Rep 3 is when you start getting purple gear, which is both the flashiest and has the best stats. So, yes. Get to rep 3, buy a bunch of crates and packs then.
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>>169864919
Rep 3 is when you start getting purple gear in your "guaranteed higher" slots from the scavenger crates.

Rep 4+ starts improving the odds that purples show up in the regular slots.
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>>169865172

conq is probably the worst dueling class in the game. your whole gimmick is that you need to telegraph your next move by five seconds to do any damage at all.
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>>169865507
mmmmmmmmmmm no
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>>169864350
>thinking we care about the consent of some baka knights
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>>169865567

sorry.
yes.
all I have to do vs any conq is get a one poke life lead and that's it.
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>"peacekeeper actually got nerfed"
>"she's bottom five in the game"
>"AoE isn't broken"
>"she's the worst assassin by far"
>"just block lol"
>"gear isn't OP you just suck"

All from one fucking PK. I don't understand how people can use that bitch and not feel like a massive scumbag.
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why do kenseis attacks go through my top guard

its always kensei
>>
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>>169865172
Welcome to why Conq isn't really OP as retards like to state
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>>169865973

I play whatever's fun. PK is one I find fun, LB is another I find fun. I don't care if people think I abuse an OP character if I play something like that.
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>>169865507
>Conq one of the best classes in tournaments
>one of the worst dueling classes
bwahahaha. You're precious.
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>>169864694
>very few players use him at high level
>dumbass scrubs falling for unblockables or just being retarded against him
>devs cite high win %
>remove a key mixup as a 'bug'
>/fhg/ claims he got buffed
>just decide to start playing Berserker because things will get better for them eventually

It's a struggle.
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>>169861909
>Gears not op
You have to be a massive fucking retard to actually believe this. I'm literally trapped using my PK in 4v4 because it's my highest rep and I have gear to compete. If I switch to my rep 1 Conq I get fucking stomped by fags with revenge gear
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What happens if your base territory gets attacked?
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>>169866369
i see more kenseis the more i play actually
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>>169866369
my 2 cents for why it was removed was because you could only do it on right dash, which is wonky
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>>169866497
nothing, it can't be attacked
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>>169863025
It definitely needs to stay for 2v2s. It's not often, but occasionally I run into fags who immediately try double teaming every single round
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post slutty symbols

yes I main PK
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My god they need to release 4v4 modes without gear. I'm really tired of fighting an entire team of raidbosses as a rep 1 LB
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>>169866369
>Can beat rep 8 Kenseis easily just by blocking and parrying
>Struggle against random ass Orochis and Peacekeepers because hit indicators show up by the time i'm already being hit
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>>169864108
3 weeks if you're lucky. Same with xbone
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>>169858340
>Parry spam
>gimmick

I'm honestly flabbergasted and have no idea how to respond
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>>169866497
If you look closely there is the event label on the map is right underneath your base, so it would probably trigger the event orders
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>>169866880

Half that shit sounds like he's whining about Dark Souls in all honesty. He sounds bad.
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>>169866719
It is a grwat way to get better at the game and become god.
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>>169866719
If I was Ubi I would just disable Revenge gear for 4v4 until they balance it.

I have literally not played a 4v4 mode game in 4 days because I'm so fucking sick and tired of running into Revenge stacked subhuman filth.
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>>169861967
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>bitching about revenge gear this hard

My highest ilvl is 40.

No matter what hero I play, I still reliably fuck revenge gear. Git gud.
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>>169858269
Just stop forcing this please. There's been an influx of new kenseis, trying to look honorable while being salty shitters and giving the true bushido followers a bad name
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>>169866529
To be fair, after the developers had "no comment" on Warden, it's pretty safe to assume they're okay with the Vanguards being pretty powerful and want them at a certain level. With respect to Kensei's bug, it wasn't detrimental to the game and played well with the rest of the kit, so well in fact that everyone assumed it to be intentional. It would be nice if it got grandfathered back in.
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>>169866923
I ain't getting better I'm just fishing for ledge kills since if I parry>hit they just activate their non stop revenge time of fuckery.
Sure, I could parry those attacks too and repeat this but that means I need to go through a dozen more revenges and it only takes one hit from them to decimate my HP pool.

That is, of course, assuming that they don't immediately run to gank moment they realize they're not getting a hit in.
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>>169867023

People in 108 gear that are tailored to revenge gain/power are way more powerful than someone without it. That's the problem. When someone can get revenge within 2 or 3 hits, they're almost always going to have it. You have to outplay the fuck out of them.
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have people figured out how to fucking make the mouse work properly yet? i fuck up like 90% of parries because the game does not read my fucking mouse inputs and I can see it on fraps videos.
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>>169867082
What bug?
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>>169867180
You could chain a right overhead into a top heavy. It allowed Kensei to get a small punish and then a mixup when dodging things like shoulder.
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>>169866991
I'm not a weeb and I like this. Nice.
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>>169867159
Right. Which is fine. It's totally doable. Anybody can get revenge armor, so if you don't have it like I don't, sucks to suck. Better play smart.
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>>169863025
>>169866684
Yes, that weeb bitch lying behind us in that clip was 2v1'in earlier in the fight, the warlord just didn't respect that I'd offblocked her a few times and wasn't ready for a revenge lightup.
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>>169867394
t. pk who only attacks people from behind and runs after spamming
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>>169867159
Enviro kill locations are tailor made to fucking these kinds of people since they just spam attacks. Ezpz. Git gud.

>>169867450
Actually a Warden/Conq/Law guy
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>>169867023
Revenge gear gives people an unfair advantage against people without it, and everyone playing a new character in 4 does not have it.
>Get revenge in 5 blocks
>It lasts for fucking ever because of the duration boost
>They can two shot you because of revenge attack boost
>They are unkillable during revenge thanks to the revenge defense boost
>If you manage to survive their revenge it means nothing because they'll get it again in 5 blocks
Revenge gear is broken beyond belief, there's no defending it. You should not be getting revenge in 5 fucking blocks in 1v1 fights
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>Duel
>Opponent tries to BG me next to a cliff
>CGB push him off a cliff
>"WOW!"
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>>169867504
how will environmental kills help when they have permanent hyper armor in revenge and dont stop attacking, meaning you can't grab them
>>
Can you tech the shove attacks, like Warden's shoulder bash or Lawbringer's shove?
>>
>some characters wear less armor than others
>everyone still takes the same damage

really makes u hmm
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>>169867565
No, dodge them
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>>169867394
>Anybody can get revenge armor
You literally can't try out new characters in 4v4 modes because you can't get decent gear until after rep 3, and without gear to compete people with revenge have a massive advantage on you
>>
>There's no retaliation for Vikangs winning first round.
>Literally everyone is pushing the knights shit in and it's not fair because we only play the weekend.
>The game is rigged for Vikings/weebs to win every round.

Th-thanks I guess.
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>>169867504
>plays 2/3 the best classes in the game
>tells people to just get environmental kills
Ah, yes, you're one of /those/ players.
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whats are stats that are good for kensei's heroic gear?
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>>169867294
>right overhead
A what?
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>>169867676

If it wasn't clear enough from the people raging about it in the thread right now, Revenge gear is the end game. Anything that has the word "Revenge" in it should be prioritized.
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>>169867670
The last day or two of the turn is the only thing that matters since we know reaching someones stronghold does nothing. Don't worry about it anon, we'll comeback when it matters
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>>169867615
Play against AI.
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>>169867651
http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2007/09/25/game-theory-tuesdays-i-challenge-you-to-a-truel/
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>>169867670
>warden
>best class

No, it's just that he's so basic that if you're a trash player you'll be extra trash. People who main him have to get really excellent with core mechanics since that's all he has. He's not overpowered or even close to best class.
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>catapult bridges
>submerged spikes than can be raised to defend against a naval strike
holy shit, was siege machinery actually this nuts?
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>>169867916
Assuming that you're not pretending to be retarded who's best to you?
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>>169858340
Anon-kun try harder
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>>169867945
Peacekeeper/warlord/conq
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>>169867758
ok but what about the sword? im using attack>def>stam, but im wondering if other stats or combos are good?
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>>169867924
Not even close. For sieging you just had really siege towers, ladders, catapults and rams.
However if I recall the most common method was just starving them out.
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>>169868014
Stamina is definitely the best in my opinion, because running out of stamina is a death sentence most of the time
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>>169859912
>Why don't people attack me first when I don't bother to attack first?
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>>169867779
>Dude just exclude yourself from certain modes against players, it's totally not a broken feature of the game preventing you from playing with them
There's no defending this
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he walks among us
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Did they do something to counter guard break? It seems like everyone can just do it with ease now. Lawbringer is basically even more useless.
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>>169859887
>fishing
>the second person was already running that direction
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>>169868147
I already explained how to counter the gear. You're still bitching because you're bad. That's not my fault or my problem.
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>>169867554
at that point it's just a parry into grab, the real problem is when they actually spam feint to psych you out to land 3 good heavy hits in a revenge
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>>169866163
Something like half of Kensei's unblockables come from the top-down.

Read the movesets.
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i get matched up against people so much better than me, and when i play vs ai they are always level 2 and kick my ass. what should i be doing? i beat the sp on hard mode but bots in mp don't play anything like bots in singleplayer and i feel like i have to relearn everything because sp bots fell for stuff like feints and were obviously programmed to do so

what hero should i be playing if i'm literally worse than level 2 bots and my queuing takes 5 minutes because there's nobody in my low skill tier
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When do I open all my crates? at rep 3? Heard thats when you get top tier/end game gear
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>>169868219
It's not a matter of being bad, it's the gear giving people an unfair advantage against new players, people trying new characters, or people who don't have time to play enough to get to rep 3

Devs have already said they're looking into revenge gear and how they can balance it
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>>169868232
they arent unblockables
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>>169868260
Anyone that will force you to play defensively.
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Is counter GBing as piss easy as people were worried it would be now?
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>>169868181
as long as he doesn't sperg out at every little thing in the game i'm fine with it
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>>169868219
No, no you didn't. Your counter wouldn't work.
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>>169868262
aye
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>>169868181
Is... Is that...

The first of the book of the damned?

The one who did not cheat? The one who bathed in blood?

Is it he?
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>>169868262
Rep 3 is when you start getting the good shit. Don't open your boxes until then.
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>>169868219
playing against ai isnt a counter to revenge gear my man
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is there a way to kill someone in this game without them sending you hatemail like the complete faggot they are?

if given half the chance, they'd ledge me all day long. but do it to them and they send a message? only nerds set up their own imaginary rules and get indignant when others dont follow them

could be the worst community ever in a game
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>>169868332
Not really.
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>>169868332
You can pretty much counter GB by button mashing now.
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>>169868352
It works for me every fucking game. Are you retarded? You get an easy parry and then throw into an enviro kill. Jesus Christ, you shitters are so God damn whiny.
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>>169868463
>could be the worst community ever in a game
Is this your first time playing a multiplayer video game?
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>>169868463
This game requires some skill to be good at, so it generates so much fucking salt when people lose because it shows they aren't good. Getting mad over ledging is understandable, but sending hatemail over it is retarded, especially when they put themselves in a position where it's ledge or be ledged
>Load into a duel against a Conq
>We're on the tower map, top of the tower
>He comes to the center of the map where ledges are everywhere
>It's fucking conq, he gets in one shield bash and I'm going over the ledge
>Throw him off just to be safe
>WOW WOW WOW WOW
Like nigga, step away from the ledge and I won't do it to you
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>>169868463
I love the salt messages though. They're so goddamn funny.
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>>169868564
>Get an easy parry
Non retards with revenge will just feint, then GB you and throw you, getting a free heavy when you fall down
>Throw into an enviro kill
You're entire fucking "counter" is dependent on them being right to a fucking ledge
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>>169868367
if youre asking about a certain tripfag then yes yes he does
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>>169868678
>not playing smart and near enviro spots

Again, you're bad.
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>>169868717
sounds like you're a shitter who relies on revenge to be effective, then cited something someone did to you once as a counter
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>>169868181
.....what?
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>>169868717
You're retarded. Please explain to me why someone with any common sense would follow you to a ledge. And you didn't comment at all on being feinted at and GB
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>>169868564
>you get an easy parry and throw them into an environmental
It's cute when shitters try to pretend to know what they're doing.
What you're suggesting is boiling down to they'll die if they're retarded; in which case their revenge doesn't matter. A good player doesn't just immediately pop revenge, he uses it as a defensive tool since it will know down your opponent which lets them do 80% of your HP bar. I'm sure you camp on ledges the entire game or get <rep1 people with revenge to chase you long enough to reach one and thus are the advice master.

Like Nigga Just Run Away Like How Is Revenge Even Real?
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>>169868757
Again, my highest ilvl is 40 on Warden.
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>>169868717
You're """counter""" still relies on the person you are playing against to be bad you dipshit.
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>>169868709
He's not a tripfag, as far as I remember.

I rather like the chap, in fact.
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>>169868717
Incoming
>I was only pretending to be retarded thanks for the (yous) kids
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This is my favorite domination map by far.

Had to fight a team of 3 orochi and a warden, just kept baiting out a dash attack, then parried them, and off the cliff they go! They ended up losing 1334 (so close) to 1020 with me going 7-0 700 points. Good times.

>"ass"
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>>169868884

Ippiki? Dude was an autist and sperg'd out on multiple occasions.
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>>169868932
I was only pretending to be retarded, thanks for the (You)s kids.
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>>169858647
>>169858302
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>>169868967
I mean, yeah.

So do the rest of us, he just has a name to put to it.

He taught me how to play DS1 pvp, he's good in my book.
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>>169868576
no, god no. the hatemail would be fun for the first few dozen but every fuckin message is just saying i'm a bad player or dishonorable or abusing something

if i'm being honest the combat is too tense to have so many map hazards in the duel maps. people get all tense and then just blast off if you ledge them.

i had funny ones from dark souls with people telling me to fall in a wood chipper, be in a "sandy hook type event" etc but these are just "trash lol" and emojis
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>>169859253
>>169859262
>be Lawman
>feint against a PK
>my stance change is too slow to block the side attack after a dodge
Feels sad, man.
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>>169868884
>>169868967
>>169869073
when i said tripfag i honestly thought we were talking about Lucy
i only started coming to /dsg/ in 2015
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Should I learn Lawbringer next for a good 2v2 character or pick up some Raider for infinite feinting?

>>169868967
IF IPPIKI IS HERE 1V1 ME RIGHT NOW
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Any SEA fags on ps4?
How is the connection?
The Division was really frustrating and nearly unplayable
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>>169869191
Most versatile weapon!
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>>169867651
Because the other two factions fucking hate you for being a DEUS VULT DEUS VULT JERUSALEM DEUS VULT shitter since you won open beta.
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>>169869230
>Should I learn Lawbringer next for a good 2v2 character or pick up some Raider for infinite feinting?
>GOOD
>lawbringer
>raider
Both are trash, Raider is probably more usable than lawbringer because as LB I run into stalemates a shitload where its just me shoving someone over and over again unable to do anything because they don't swing.
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>>169869319
Lawbringer is probably one of the best characters in 2v2 man.

Raider is pretty bad yeah but he's really fun and satisfying.
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>>169857391
need me more of this cutie
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>>169869237
Any body from SEA
Pls reply
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>>169869372
You cant be serious.


Please, im begging you.


PLEASE tell me you arent this delusional.
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>>169869372
>Lawbringer is probably one of the best characters in 2v2 man.
How did you come to this conclusion? Lawbringer is weak as fuck in duels because he legitimately cannot initiate; he's carried by gear in 4v4's.
What, is your entire meta of LB in 2v2's ignore opponent and charge the guy focusing your teammate off a ledge?
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>>169869297
C'mmon man, we are not all like that. It is just a small group of knights ruining it for the rest of the knights.
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>>169869521
If you aren't then you are welcome to go join the weebs or kangz. We don't want you.
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>>169869209
Lucy is an insignificant gnat, slapped at and splatted upon the unceremonious fat gut of dsg.

I honestly forgot he existed until just now.
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>>169869625
>unoriginal
>unoriginal
>unoriginal
>and a swastika that looks absolutely fucking abhorrently shit
better bait than kensei-poster/10
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>>169869625
No, you don't understand you thick headed meme spouter. The knights doesn't want YOUR kind. But you are too dense to see it, like all the other deus vult dogs.
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>>169869661
Oh he's definitely still shitposting it up in there
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>>169869785
>wow so balnace
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>>169869394
>Valk's arms pushing forward her bust

hnnnng
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>>169869427
>>169869480
He has some of the most consistent, best control in the game. Have you played him much in it? Yeah he's not great in duels but he's an absolute beast at opening people up Shove is hard to make work in a 1v1 but it's guarenteed opening for your teammate, and your scoop is an absolute death sentence.
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>>169869785
>Dude fuck you for following up a parry
I have trouble landing parries and even I know this is retarded
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>>169869765
>unoriginal
>unoriginal
>unoriginal
I wasn't trying to be original, they are two real knightly orders and the actual American Battle of Nations flag.
>and a swastika that looks absolutely fucking abhorrently shit
Now I know you are baiting, because it is the best fucking swastika anyone has ever made in this editor.
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>>169869857
wow, that would be great if people didn't play 2v2s like two duels.
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Anyone in yurop wants to do some brawls today?
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>>169869857
>Have you played him much in it?
Yes.
>your scoop is an absolute death sentence.
If you can land it. Literally anyone works when you're ganking another player, don't cite Lawbringer as being good if you're just going to gank since other people bring better utility to the table. Everything you've said sounds like Conq is up your alley.
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>>169869857
>shove
>in 2v2
But first you'd have to defeat your opponent to gank together with your teammate.
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>>169869785
whater is cold??
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go to bed kensei shitter
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>>169869924
That's the best part, you don't have to play 2v2 like two duels! You can pick how to play it and everyone else has to deal with you.

>>169869958
Conqueror is pretty good too yeah.

>>169869968
You can fight in a big fucking pile actually, you don't have to split off into groups.
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>>169869919
>I wasn't trying to be original
That wasn't my point. Its the REASON that you use them is fucking retarded.
>best swastika
Hitler would've gassed you if he knew how much bloody messy diseased shit you were spewing onto the swastika.
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>>169869785
>>169869884
I really wish GB wouldn't be the cornerstone of combat in this game.
Parry? You can do a confirmed light counter OR a confirmed GB into a heavy. Can't we just omit the overused GB step in this chain and just get a confirmed heavy riposte after a parry?
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>>169870048
delete this lawbringer is pure and shouldnt be near that fucking disgusting harlot
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>>169870048
Yeah, except LB is equally weak in gangbangs as he is in duels. He doesn't have any qualities that would make him "one of the best characters in 2v2".
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>>169870139
Agreed, it seems weird that there's only one thing you can do after a parry, but it still makes you go through the motions.
Maybe it's to prevent Parry into GB while you're exhausted? Even then it's dumb.
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>>169870048
>law can never punish a conq shield bash like this because conq recovers before law has to wait long enough to GB him instead of shove
>>
>decide to play warden despite all the buzz about him being cancer
>decide to abstain from spamming top pokes and zone attacks
>every fucking attack gets parried that isn't a top light, leading to me being guardbroken, etc
>feinting devolves into both parties just spamming feints till the other gives up

Why can't he be viable without being cancer?
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holy shit you can parry wardens counter attack top light thing
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>>169870139
>OR a confirmed GB into a heavy
Only certain characters can get a confirmed heavy off GB, but it's still nonsense
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>>169870086
>That wasn't my point. Its the REASON that you use them is fucking retarded.
I wanted to use things that fit the theme, not try to be the first guy to post a Lambda or something.
>best swastika
It is kys
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>>169870269
Okay, so here's the first step on how to fix LB. You listening, Ubi? Okay, pay attention now, because this might be a hard concept to grasp for your game designer. Let LB cancel his shove into GB just like Warden, Valk and every fucking other hero in the game can.
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>>169870320

He's not really cancer. People just whine that the only thing good about him is actually good, and his shoulder bash into light or cancel into grab is just a guessing game that you can't reliably punish.

It's really not the worst thing in this game to fight.
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>>169870334
Why wouldn't you be able to?
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Holy shit, why didn't you guys tell me Kensei was this good? I might have to join the weebs next season.
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>>169870390
Still literally no reason to dodge it
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>>169870353
What? Is there any single character in the game that DOESN'T get a confirmed heavy off a GB in any shape of form?
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that's it im swearing off this game until ubisoft fix whatever the hell is dropping me from a game every single day.
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jesus christ revenge builds are broken, also I saw this weeb where 90% of her attacks were unblockable, is there a reason for this?
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Guys I have to stop playing Warlord. I was considering Berseker for a little bit, what have you boys had fun with?
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>>169870460
dunno about other classes but if they've specced for debuff resist then LB can't get a side heavy off a GB
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>>169870460

I think raider has to go for his zone attack, his heavy is too slow. I THINK PK also has a too slow heavy but I can't be sure. Most people don't have a confirmed upper heavy.
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>>169870413
Well, people who play him and only use those two attacks are scumbags. It's a low-risk playstyle with high rewards and low skill investment.
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>>169870460
PK doesn't get a confirmed heavy, nor does Conq
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>>169870510
Lawbringer
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>>169870556
Sure you weren't just slow on the input? I've heard people being able to tech out of a GB after a parry with enough debuff res (although yet to witness it myself). But I'm pretty sure as long as your GB isn't countered, your side heavy is confirmed.
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>>169870415
i have never seen anyone do it before
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>>169854687
There was literally nothing to be happy about back then.
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>>169870269
Actually Law's dodge and shove may have been enough to get him over the edge there, so Law could punish that pretty well.

>>169870214
It's not a gangbang it's everyone fighting at once !

webm not really related to topic at hand but some mad happened just now and gave me a chuckle.
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>>169870570

They only use those attacks because they're the only ones that aren't easily punished, for the most part. If I have the chance to I will definitely use other attacks, but those are the only ones that are safe to use.

It's not terribly hard to hold your guard to your left, and you have more than enough time if you have decent reflexes to block the enhanced upper. I find the PK and Orochi zone attacks way more frustrating to deal with.
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How the fuck do I AFK farm on the computer?
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>>169870712
Maybe, but if there is no ledge, lawbringer can never punish a conq shield bash spamming or a warlord headbutting, or a valk shield bash, or warden vortex wiffing.

It's so bad...
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>>169870720
>How the fuck do I AFK farm on the computer?

You don't. Because I've been saving clips of everyone I catch doing it and sending in video evidence to Ubi. It's a perma-bannable offense.

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>169870764
A lot of the cast can't. Resetting to neutral isn't so bad though. Just make the best of it, if it bothers you so much switch to a main that can. I suggest Nobushi, she's really fun.
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>>169870723
Poor Little White Knights
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>>169870798
> not just disabling matchmaking
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>>169870798

If they're doing it in vs. AI, who gives a shit?
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>>169870798
1) its not perma bannable, or even temp bannable
2) why the fuck are you playing dominion vs ai in the first place? play against players you baby
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>>169870810
Actually basically everyone but law can. Just side step and GB.
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So if you're facing a Walord who knows how to CGB and parry Unblockables, is there any way to win?
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>>169870856
It's easy exp, but straight up cheating is fucking annoying. Fuck off.
>>169870843
Fuck off.
>>169870852
Me.
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>>169870489
Hahahahaha how the fuck are disconnecting issues real Hahaha nigga just get better internet like nigga just port forward.
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>>169868332
It was easy before
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>>169870896

AFKing isn't cheating, it's more akin to griefing. But in vs. AI it doesn't really matter. The only reason to play dominion vs. AI is for an order. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.
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>>169870870
Even if they know how to tech GB it doesn't mean they will be able to do that EVERY single time. All you can do is hope they'll screw up somehow at some point.
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Are there starred heroic armour pieces or is it just the weapons?
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>>169870964
>AFKing isn't cheating
It is when by AFKing you get exp and high level items which make your character stronger in combat.
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>>169857865
You can't light because it doesn't chain the bash. You meant heavy > shield bash > heavy > etc
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>Its a "I have to solo the entire enemy team as a new character" kinda episode

I still don't understand what part of capture the objective people are unable to grasp. 1v1's just get so boring after a while but fuck me this is even worse
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I don't think riptide should have that long a recovery. I understand it's defensive and we shouldn't make it too strong but it's one of the more daring moves out there. You can only reliably use it against a heavy, and those are almost always a feint.
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>>169870996
Just weapons, won't be surprised if starred armor is added though
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>>169871067

Except that'll happen either way. It's also definitely exploiting the lack of a kick feature more than anything else.

I don't do it, I also very rarely play anything other than 1v1 or 2v2 so I don't need gear much, but I never cared when I do my orders.
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>playing berserker, have him at rep 1 from orders
>face rep 4 conq
>literally only spams shield charges
>style on him but lose a round, 3-1
>demands rematch
>does shield bash spam again but follows it up with unavoidable lights when he lands it
>only thing he fucking does
>ledges me as final kill
>"Good Fight!"
>leaves immediately in post-game lobby

Must be a sad existence
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>>169871094
question, what's the point of doing that top light parry when you could just parry and gb for a heavy?
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Green nat, 60 down 6 up speeds, and I can't get anything but dominion and duel to save my life.

And both of those take 5 minutes to match. I can't do my other orders. I have only played like 2 elim matches since launch, but it says high population. What the fuck?
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>>169871094

>slaughtering orochis that spam up lights with that counter move as warden

so fucking satisfying
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>>169871251
cant berzerker sidedodge attack to beat it
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>>169871094
nice crest
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>>169871279
It does more damage than a heavy
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Does AI farming effect your win loss ratio? I'd love the extra steel, but I don't know if I want to have awful stats after
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>>169858647
You know this is a lie. Law gets a side heavy off GB, raider cant even do that
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>>169871279
they could counter the gb. Or they could go out of range when you parry them. Also that particular attack doe massive damage.

I still don't understand that shit. some characters knockback a mile away and others hardly move when parried
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>>169871094

Is that femwarden or am I just imagining the ponytail? It's also not blonde.
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>>169871279
The top light counter does a lot more damage I believe.
But you're right, I could have had the execution if I used a heavy for bonus style points.
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>>169867589
No they don't; you're an idiot.
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>>169871372
Has to do with weapon length.
I for the life of me do not know how to punish nobushi, LB, or kensei after parrying as LB.
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>>169871346
>>169871380
what really
how does a light do more damage than a heavy
ok ill keep that in mind
>>169871372
you cant cgb a parry gb
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>>169871086
It's even worse playing against a coordinated team when you have random retards
>Load into dominion
>Enemy team all has perfect gear
>They clearly are communicating, they have two people at the center point with grunts and one at each side point just guarding it the entire match
>My team is fucking retards who only focus on the center leaving me alone to try taking the sides, everytime I take one and try to get the other it's just retaken right away
I want premade teams to only be able to fight premade teams
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>>169871363
How many people are going to come at me with this fucking stupid ass argument.

Yes, you do not get a normal side heavy off a GB. What you DO get, is the running charge carrying them across the map off a ledge, or into a wall for a top heavy, or just throw them on the ground for a side unblockable heavy.

You don't get it right away, but you DO get a heavy.
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>>169871372

They couldn't counter the GB after a parry. The range is definitely a consideration, though I find if you time it right you will get it even if they are pretty far away against anyone except Nobushi.
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>>169867589
Different characters have different amounts of health. A Nobushi absolutely cannot take the same level of punishment as a Shugoki.
>>
HOW TO FIX FOR HONOR IN THREE STEPS

1. Remove all assassin classes for major rebalancing. As it stands at the moment, they're all either OP (Peacekeeper) or worthless (Berserker).

2. Removal of all gear stats for immediate rebalancing.

3. Non-shit servers and no P2P.

There, I just saved your shitty game Ubisoft.
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>>169871418
with nobushi as LB you parry a light and do the heavy riposte, it's a guaranteed hit, like the only class it works on
>>
how do you do that thing as orochi after you gb where you flip behind them
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>>169871490

If you parry a light as LB you get a guaranteed unblockable overhead. Otherwise, it's more reliable to go for a GB or an instant light smack in the fast to start a combo.
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>>169871379
It's femwarden. It's blonde too, It's probably just the lighting making it look weird.

>>169871418
I think you can do a side heavy without GB after the parry but I could be wrong.

>>169871428
It's a special move. It only does that much damage when used as a top parry.
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>>169871489
>Remove all assassin classes for major rebalancing.
>Slutkeeper
>OP

>Pic related
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>>169871251

Side dodge it dude
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>>169871489
Just because Bers isn't a broken cheese machine doesn't mean he's worthless. He's just fine.
The game should nerf the current OP heroes, and slightly tune the others. The combat should be more about fundamentals than exploiting broken combos.
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>>169871489
1. PK needs balance, orochi doesn't need to confirm another 2 lights off the running slash attack, and berserker can feint literally everything into a GB or another attack in the other direction. Berserker also has the single strongest top heavy in the game by far.

2. Revenge gear is fucking gay. I agree.

3. Agree on the shitty servers. Do not add servers for actual game clients. This will quadruple the latency between clients in just a 1v1.
1 -> 2 -> 1
into
1 -> Server -> 2 -> Server -> 1

P2P is the best system to minimize latency. And because of how fast attacks in this game can be, you need as quick of a connection as you can get between clients. It's just there is no penalty for leavers and they don't have a subnet mask system to protect your IP from malicious people or to verify connection quality between clients. They also don't seem to have a good failsafe system if the main host leaves and the entire connection system falls apart.

>>169871574
PK is OP. This is bait. Do not reply further.
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Trying to get into peacekeeper for LB is fucking me up

I have no clue how to dodge
Is it dodge into attacks ala Dark souls, dodge away or only dodge back? I very rarely see the anim where she slides under the attack and "Parries it"
Help me git gud /fhg/
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>>169871690
Dodge into attacks on the parry timing for a Deflect.

Also, stop playing assassins.
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>>169871690

You need to dodge at the right moment (like a parry) in the direction of the attack to get a deflect, where she gets a guaranteed heavy and a light attack/bleed. Otherwise if it's timed wrong but you still dodge, you can usually get a side heavy.

Basically, dodge into the direction the attack is coming from.
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Can you only get the top unblockable if you parry a top attack?
I've been trying to move and get it off PK side lights but I can't
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>>169871574
>the only classes that have a chance at beating her at equal skill are classes that literally don't need to think about their guard direction.
>this in turn makes them too good versus the rest.
PKIDF woke up already?
>>
So can any high level femkensei players tell me if the helms get better or is fuuma the only ok one?
So many have literally the mans face, i just want a decent waifu
>>
>>169871681
Sorry, meant double latency. Also I don't know much about berserkers besides the fact that they can just feint everything into existence and get a GB, throw you into a wall, then light attack into top heavy to delete 3 bars of health from you. I haven't played the character, and usually when I fight them I stay away from walls and bait out their dash attacks and get easy parries into AD MORTEM to delete half of their HP.
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>>169871815
I hate to say it but femroaches make better waifus than femseis.
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>>169871843
Infinite bullying potential
>>
Can't fucking deal with this stupid game anymore, if I could take a refund I would of if I had known how much cancer would spread that is revenge gear, you just get shit head after shit head trash talking over and over
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>>169871778
A light parry will let you get LB's top heavy off.
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>>169871778

>>169858647
This image here is everything lawbringer can do.

It doesn't matter which direction you parry it from, it just depends if you parry a light attack or a heavy attack.
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>ask guy how to beat PK
>block & cancel GB

How do I block her as a conq quick enough? I can't get any real chains going because assassins can just side step everything.
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>>169871681
The running slash is incredibly risky. It has absolutely no iframe so he has to predict the right move or you'll just stagger him out of it, and it's so long it can't counter most lights (you will be able to block).
I agree about zerk though. People complaining about him being shit don't know how dangerous he can be once he starts feinting and stops being greedy. If you only block to avoid being baited, you'll never be able to punish him. You're forced to play his game unless you have range advantage like kensei or you're just so far above everyone, like warlord.
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>>169871939
Wow thanks for not answering my question

>>169871970
Thanks.
I've been getting the charge a lot and I'm not sure why
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>>169872250

Charge is a side heavy off a parry.
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>>169870510
Dude Warlord needs to be gassed imo

>Oh I will play 100% passive
>Block everything because muh guard change
>If an attack is about to go in just full guard
>oh a guardbreak is coming shame I didn't move from this spot

Using a kensei against this fuck is like using a fucking paper towel to stop a flood, fuck off Warlords.
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>>169872056
You've got a full block stance into meme mixups what are you whining about
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>>169872250
I think there might be a communication issue here.

It does not matter which direction their attack comes from that you parry, it only matters if you parry a light or a heavy.

If you then do a heavy from the top right after you parry a light, you will get the AD MORTEM. If you do a heavy from either side right after you parry a light, you will start a charge.

I hope this clears things up.
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>>169872362
main problem is just that nothing he does costs any reasonable amount of stamina and he has one of the fastest guard-switches in the game.
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>>169872362
>Dude armoured heavies lmao
WHY DOES LAWBRINGER NOT HAVE THIS
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>>169872250
Yes you can use LB's overhead if you parry a side attack.
>>169872417
youre misunderstanding the question
>>
anyone have any success with fixing yellow nat

literally fucking routed through 2 routers to the modem, kill me
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>>169872570
>kill me

You answered your own question
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>>169872474
Or when playing 4v4 for muh beautiful xp you come across the 108 Warlord who just sits in his ball until revenge procs and UHOH WHATS THAT MY ZONE ATTACK KILLS YOU IN ONE HIT WOWOWOWOW fucking fuck my life.

>>169872512
>Dude lmao I don't get it
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>>169872512
Lawbringer has literally nothing while Warlord has basically everything, that's more or less what I covered in this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bomIviLWNuM

it's really odd that no one on their balance team saw anything like this where 2 characters are both classed as "counter attacker" with completely different kits
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>>169872516
He asked if he could only get ad mortem off if he parries a top light. He didn't know why he was getting charges a lot. Had to clear it up.I understood just fine
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>>169870048
>You can pick how to play it and everyone else has to deal with you.
>Try to 2v2
>teammate backs off and watches me get 2v1d.
>"Lol that's what you get"
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>>169872570
Have you tried opening your ports?

I have a different problem where I've opened my ports on xbone, got nat to go green, but my xbox resets itself to moderate for some retarded reason. So basically I need to do a hard reset on the entire console every time I play to get green nat
>>
>>169871640
>Knights prepare for Faction War round 2
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>>169872570
UPnP works fine with my router, so I don't need to forward any ports manually. I just whitelisted the game's executable in my antivirus firewall settings to get the green one.
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>>169872631
Because you didn't set up static IP correctly, shitter.
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>>169872614
the fact that headbutt > headsplitter leap is an infinite combo in revenge is really stupid
>>
I still dig the idea that Lawbringer should be able to execute with his lights as well as his heavy. Matches his archtype and rotation and gives him an angle over other classes.
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>>169871308
>>169871607
yeah i got lazy/tired/didn't react fast enough

my point was that it was lame because i faced another conq who did the exact same shit. conq is so braindead i wish he was better
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>>169872626
i usually tell them to go back to dark souls and they extremely mad because it's always 100% true lol

in fact this exact thing happened in >>169870712 that I posted a round or two from then. still won of course.

the best though is when people call you a stupid pussy who can't 1v1, so next round you square up and just fucking destroy them. i've never NOT had anyone ragequit on me after that.
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>it's a PK with uchiha symbol episode
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>>169872685
Executions? Really? Out of all LB's issues you actually thought this was the most pressing one?
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>>169864206
Max I've ever gotten with conscript attrition was 3 hits, teach me
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>>169872659
I had no idea I needed to do that man
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>>169870048
One of the best things to do in 2v1 engagements is just sit back and occasionally throw out unblockables
>>
>no stags in emblem creator

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WON'T THE EXPAND THIS THERE AREN'T ENOUGH LAYERS NOR KNIGHTLY SYMBOLS FUCK
>>
>do a heavy attack versus a bot
>right when it's about to hit, cancel and guard break
>he actually started a light attack already
>he started a light attack despite me about to hit him with a heavy attack
>he was anticipating a feint gb
>he is level 2

how am i supposed to get better against bots when they don't play like humans
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>>169872835
Yeah that, or guardbreak/any special control moves you have.

Just got a ragequit from me REVIVING MY FUCKING TEAMMATE btw holy shit people are pathetic.
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>>169872793
Spin the right stick randomly and mash R1.
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>>169872876
Yeah , you can also get hit during guard break tech animation so locking someone down by spamming guard break is actually a totally legitimate strategy
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>>169872875
This applies to any PvP game that has bots really.
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>>169872940
but i played against a human and he was a rep 4 warden and after he beat me 0-3 he said 'go back to bots'

but the bots are actually better than he was so idk i mean i beat the singleplayer but the bots there don't even act like multiplayer bots

maybe i'm just retarded nvm
>>
Just had my first rage-quitting roach of the day.

>playing brawl
>teammate is a roach
>first round no problem clean sweep
>second round he dies
>spams wow! then quits

Wonderful.
>>
>>169872793
Yeah dawg. The way your router works is it dynamically assigns IP addresses to devices as they connect. Port forwarding forwards to a specific local IP - so your device needs to have the same IP.
>>
>>169872729
What is with all the Uchiha clan nerds? There is at least one in every 5 games.
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>>169872985
>live in a third world country
>have to buy the region locked version
>all quick chat is translated
>don't have a "wow!"
Which buttons is it bound to in the Eigo version?
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warlord scum throws me off and all around cheeses me two rounds in a row, start ass fucking him 3 rounds in a row and he quits as I choke his ass out

Nice
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>>169873024
I don't fucking know. I had no idea there were so many degenerates watching/reading this garbage. The absolute worst is when they put it on a knight/viking shield. It's a really bad normie meme at this point and they're doing it because they saw some streamer or teammate doing it.
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>counter gb no problem against bots
>can't do it at all in PVP unless i press it before they even gb, which then counters

What is my problem? I hate not being able to do it reliably against people. I've practiced for hours against level 3 bots and do fine there. Please help.
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>>169872875
Bots always cheat. Always. Have you ever used the unblockable attack feat against bots? Suddenly they can parry almost every single attack even though they weren't earlier in the fight
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>>169873197
how do u beat him as conq
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>weeb with a naruto emblem
>playing a peaceshitter covered in asscreed symbols

Have I just found cancer in its purest form?
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>>169873270
triple distilled at least
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>duel
>nobushi vs me, berserker
>die 2/3 rounds from bleed but kill her first
>win 3-0
>say Good Fight! with quick chat

i mean i thought it was good, it was almost like one of those chinese cartoons
>>
>>169873250
>i press it before they even gb, which then counters
That's not a counter, that's just two GBs clashing. Before the last patch, you'd just get GBed instead.
You have to counter after the enemy GB connects, but before you're stunned.
Oh, and in case you get GBed after a parry, you can't counter it, because you're still recovering from getting parried. Unless you stack enough debuff res gear, or so they say.
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>>169873250
The timing is different for different characters. I'm used to medium speed GBs so I get caught by assassin and warlord GBs quite a lot.
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>>169872639
they arent doing very well so far

being pushed in all day until weekend
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>>169873415
They're hiding their power

Heed my words, fear the knights
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>>169872995
I'll set that up then, fix this issue once and for all
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>>169873256

Out cheese him, just force people into walls and spam your smash/heavy it also helps if you mix it up with random lights.
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>>169873415
Knights probably gave up trying. I know I did.
Plus it's annoying to deploy your assets in a specific spot after every match. I'd rather you gathered a bunch of asset as you play, which can then be distributed as you wish. It would turn into something similar to bidding on ebay but at least it'd be more involved and interactive than this mobile game-tier garbage.
>>
>>169873374
Thanks I didn't know well enough after post-parry recovery. Somebody said dodging also triggers this, not sure if it's true, though.

I understand that it's countering after their body touches mine but before the stun, I get there are different timings, but I cannot reliably do it against players, whereas I can against AI.
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>>169873584
It literally only takes 10 seconds. Don't be a lazy cunt who chose to fail his faction.
>>
>>169873701
>10 seconds
youre a slow cunt arent ya
>>
>>169855862

History is written by victors, not by those who are honorable, to be melodramatic about it.
>>
>>169873734
sometimes it takes longer if your faction isnt fighting in the zone the mode youre playing is in
>>
>>169873024
I think it's because Sacriel (streamer guy) started using it? Thats where I first saw it at least and now every other PK is using it as well
>>
>>169873584
There's also no point deploying assets until the end of the round anyway.

At this point I only deploy manually on the volcano.
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>>169873197
These people are the fucking worst. Characters should never have been built around cheap instant kills
>Warlord in literally any mode, but especially duels/brawls immediately run for the nearest ledge and wait for you to come to them
>They'll literally sit near the ledge taunting for MINUTES straight if you don't go to them
I've literally had a the final round of a duel 2-2 with a walord camping a bridge waiting for me. The faggot let the round time out and we tied because the faggot refused to leave his precious ledge and I wasn't going to risk getting ledged
>>
>>169866959
Revenge should be reworked.

1v1 fights should give no revenge charge, 1v2 should give small amounts and 1v3-4 huge amounts
>>
>>169873939
in custom 1v1 and 2v2 there is a tickbox for revenge
i feel like they just forgot to take it off on default profile
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>>169873749
This isnt history.
Its a game.
Have some class Sun Tzu
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>>169873749
reported every single ledger for griefing
>>
>report emote spammers for griefing
>report peaceshitters for cheating

Always fun.
>>
>>169873939
>Revenge should be reworked
I feel like it's a tricky situation, on one hand revenge in its current state is too strong, on the other without it 2v1ing would become even more rampant. I think it would be better if they toned down the damage but added in some CC/GB protection for it.
>>
>>169874141
just make it so it doesn't accumulate in 1v1, and only does if you're outnumbered
maybe people would stop being shits then
>>
>>169874013

The point here is, "honor" means nothing. Especially has nothing to do with ledges. A knight would probably laugh at you if you said that to him, if there was any of them around still. Would probably go something like
>"I doth not bethink yond mine own code of chivalry hast writ lett'rs about not throwing a strange foe down a ledge"
>>
Can you parry attacks from someone you're not locked onto?
>>
>>169873774
fuck it. it's a pointless chore and gives very little feedback or satisfaction. i stopped manually doing it one day after release. i plop them around when it's near the end, but otherwise, no. it does absolutely nothing for me. sorry, knights.
>>
>fighting warlord
>he either headbutts which forces you to dodge sideways with a very tight timing or hit him with a light attack as early as possible
>or he goes for the GB so if you dash you're fucked

Do I just need to spam light attack at these assholes or something?
>>
>>169874212
As long as you locked onto someone else, yes.
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>>169874212
Yes
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>>169874224
Pointless!?
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>>169874141
Its not revenge that's busted it's the gear.
It also shouldnt build in 1v1 though, that's so retarded.

Just make it so that you're invincible during GB tech animations and such. I'd like to see some kind of change so that you can't fuck someone up really easily by putting your teammate on one side and using the opposite side's attack but I'm not sure how.
Also new thread when
>>
>>169873749
>I play to win
I don't really get this mentality. Obviously winning feels good, but this isn't my endgame. I want to get better, I want to have a solution to everything and know that I didn't just get lucky. I'm not saying I don't go for environmentals if I get the chance, because they'd probably do the same. My point is that you mostly care about the short term enjoyment, which will lose it's effect quite fast. Winning and being the best are two very different things, and the former doesn't necessarily bring the latter. If you win you're only the best in that one match, but if you're the very best you've probably lost, made mistakes and learnt quite a lot to get there.

It's like learning an art. If you're only in it to make pretty pictures but don't like the long, tedious process, you'll never make it.
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>>169874197
Are you playing PK or Nobushi? I feel like the only time I get revenge in a duel is against them and I'm 108 revenge gear. But I do agree it shouldn't accumulate in 1v1 situations, they should also disable in duels too.
>>
>>169874275
i literally let over a million war assets fly in round one and i'm not kidding. burned out on manual placement as well as the game in general, but my lack of contribution in r2-5 will always be offset by the fuckin million assets i produced for you nerds and you couldn't even win
>>
>>169874387
>>169874387
>>169874387

Migrate whenever

>>169874387
>>169874387
>>169874387
>>
>>169874293
Do you mind explaining the current complaints people have with revenge gear, is it in 1v1 situations only?
>>
>>169874293
Oh and unparryable unblockables in 2v1 are borderline broken
>>
>>169874236
Spam lights, get superior blocked, and die.
There's just no beating competent warlords.
>>
>>169874210
The point is, loosen up your tight vagina and have some fun. The game isn't life or death.
>>
>>169874397
with purple revenge gear you get revenge in 2-5 blocks and 1 to 2 shot people

peacekeeper can one shot zone attack, which is either THE fastest or one of the fastest moves in the game
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>>169874449
no
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>>169874294

I don't think you are wrong in the slightest. I personally drag people away from a ledge if they're close to one, because I prefer gameplay. I just think people wrongfully start screeching autistically about honor, as if that's a thing. People are always going to be playing for the wins, complaining about honor is moot.
>>
>>169874397
It gets to a point where some players willingly put themselves in 1v2+ situations to get revenge, which only takes 2 or so hits to activate with maxed gear. Not all classes can take advantage of that, but some are notorious for having broken moves and infinites with revenge on. PK's zone coupled with lights, conq's bash (knockdown in revenge) into heavy, warlord's heabutt (knockdown in revenge) into headsplitter.

Revenge gear coupled with debuff res making you unpunishable turns the game into something really stupid.
>>
>>169874449
>loosen up your tight vagina
thats like saying "shrink your big dick and have some fun"
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>>169872626
Neck thyself.
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>>169872626
also enjoy reports
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>>169874135
You realize those reports do nothing right? No one will be banned for cheating without actually cheating. And emote spamming is a part of the game
>>
>>169859074
shut the fuck up retard
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