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Crusader

>What's new?
Large UI overhaul imminent, Indev video sometime this week
>WoW Event; Play Warcraft hero with friends for free mounts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/
>Lucio and Valentine's day stuff has been released
https://youtu.be/MRlkCiPVmII [Embed] [Embed]
>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed] [Embed]

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20564324
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581814
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581815
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/3KTsPR2oeSE [Embed] [Embed]

>Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you Nova Skin memers?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki
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1st for forever Diamond 3
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Make a drink themed after a hero
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>>169812653
I take Li-Li.

It's green tea.

Woah, am I good or what?
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>>169812435
IS IT THAT FUCKING DIFFICULT TO LINK THE PREVIOUS THREAD
>>169625638
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>guy just sitting at DK waiting to jump in
>as he watches the entire team die because he won't help with the actual team fight

why do these people exist

seriously go back to fucking WoW
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How good i lucio when playing with qm shitters? (i only play qm) is he any good?
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Can I get some advice for Xul talents?
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>>169812904
Settle down autismo
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>>169812774
dorito flavored root beer with a hint of feet
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>>169813075
Standard builds vs solo split build
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>>169813740
That's Chen tho.
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>>169813529
NO YOU SETTLE DOWN
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>>169812653
Sulfuras Smash
1 part Absolute Peppar
1 part Fireball whiskey
1 part Chinese snake wine
1 part Moonshine
Serve lit on fire.
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>IT'S RETARD TEAM COMP TIME!
n-no matchmaker please NO
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Lightlord Ragnaros when?
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>>169814185
The Jaina
Basically a mojito but with Blue Curaco instead of rum. Add a dash of Creme de Menthe for an extra cool.
Serve alongside a list of all your crushed hopes and dreams and a picture of the bully who pushed your head into the toilet with his face shooped onto Garrosh's body.
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>>169814263
>abathur on your team
Sorry for your loss.
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Rate my hero selection
>mfw 400 games in hots
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>>169812653
The Uther:
Take one bottle of fine Scotch. Must be aged at least 25 years.
Pour into chilled rocks glass.
Serve.
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>>169813760
solo split Xul also uses mages; better defense in case they gank you
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>>169812653
The Valla
1pt Vodka
3pt Black Sambucca
Shaken and served with rocks and garnished with lemon
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>>169813760
Yeah, for the most part.

Skeletons for solo, also consider the backlash damage and amplify for dueling.
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>>169812653
Zeratul
Green Absynth
Blueberry juice
Irish cream for the "cloud" effect

Lightly stir
Optional: add a dash of sallac
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>>169814630
Level up that Lucio.
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What would be the second skin for Kel'Thuzad?
Necromancer or Archmage?
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>>169815103
Probably neither because the base model will be a lich.
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>>169815103
Vanilla would be his undead lich form
Master skin would be Kirin Tor KT
Purchasable skin would be the WC3 KT you linked
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>>169815103
How do you know it's Kel'Thuzad?
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>>169815103
Ethereal
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>>169815152
true
so everything else would be a legendary skin, because new animations etc.
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>>169814573
we won with 36 core integrity, they got zero altars and only once stole boss from us
It was a joke game nobody had any damage, once we focued zuljin they were fucked and had to run which was no good because good luck running from lucio powered team
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>>169812653
The Gul'dank
Pour:
1 part Midori Melon Liqueur
1 part Hypnotiq
1 part Smirnoff Sours Green Apple
1 part Absinthe
into tall glass
Stir
Top off glass with Mountain Dew.
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wow wall riding with lucio is a massive chore, he gets stuck constantly
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>when you get to play a full bruiser mura build
>bruiser as fuck
>zoning half their backline on your own while being unkillable
>when you get a give em the ax procc running
>literally smacking the living shit out of everything
>some poor soul tries to stand up to you
>mop the floor with them
>some tank tries to be cheeky and stand in front of you
>slap them to death instead
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>>169815496
Mountain Dew + Absinthe
>FTFY
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>>169812653
Valeera:
-one part pure methanol
-one part bleach
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>>169812653
too slow
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>>169812653

Terra Nova
- One cocktail glass with clear, cold, flavored vodka of choice,
- Chase with a shot of room-temp 151 for both.
- Smack your head on the ground.
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You probably make some animal flavored drink (Lili?Chen?) out of this, considering that animals get drunk from the marula fruit.
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I'm so getting tired being matched daily vs the same fucking 5 man stack. It's been 5 days in a row, same fucking enemy, 5 solo vs 5 stack. And worst, 2 consecutive games vs the same group. What the fuck blizzard?
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Stimpack:

Ingredients:1 cl Bols Blue1 cl Safari Liqueur1 cl Vodka
Directions: Shake all ingredients and pour into a shot glass.
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>>169816885
What region?
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>>169816885
dedgame
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>its a team blows their whole load on Protected Varian episode
I'm not sure if the Warbringer changes were really a nerf outside Master League.
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>>169818838
no one in lower leagues played Warbringer anyway
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Today i'll prove that Personal Adjustment -40 is a real thing. Next match will be deciding if this is a 10th loss streak or it breaks the curse
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>>169818838
I tried a game where i swapped warbringer for the immune during parry talent yesterday and it actually worked out pretty well. Sucks not being able to charge as often but i feel like i can go ham on an enemy with no regard now. Atleast until both parries are on cooldown.
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>>169819436
you and me both

im playing mostly support and some warrior and my teammates keep doing questionable plays which end up fucking me


whats the point of having Diamond MMR if you're going to be ranked with fucking bronze decision making?
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>>169819735
Playing support is a huge mistake, no matter what you do, you always get to see people go in solo, ignore objectives, get ganked, start flaming and when things are looking a little bright then someone DCs
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>>169819842
I'm not sure whether I agree with you. Auriel is the reason I climbed so quickly but I rarely support anymore now.. hmm
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>>169819842
>Playing support is a huge mistake


Should i be maining assassins for victories?
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>>169820292
Low ranks play Xul or Zagara
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>>169820393
>diamond mmr
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>>169812653
The illidan

Cum in a glass, let sit 10,000 years, drink it see if you're prepared
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>>169820853
Well, are you?
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>>169812653

Tyrande Whisperwind

Elune's Chase

1 oz Cenarion Spirits
3/4 oz Moonglow
3/4 oz Darnassian apple juice
3/4 oz Melon Juice Schnapps
Garnish with a leaf from the top of Teldrassil's highest branches

I'll let you guess why I chose MELON juice
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>>169819436
And this is how a 10th Loss streak look like. -40 Personal Adjustment from it
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>>169822018
stop playing that shitty hero
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We need more dragons in the game and I'm not talking about dragons in there "human" form (Chromies guise is a gnome, but you get what I mean).
Deathwing, Alexstrasza, Ysera and so on in there dragon from.
Scaling shouldn't be the problem, just look at Sgt. Hammer
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>>169822118
Ill never play Support again in Hero League thats what ill do
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>>169821525
cause it restores mana?
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>>169822271
>Scaling shouldn't be the problem, just look at Sgt. Hammer
Or Azmodan. Or Ragnaros.

I'd play the shit out of Deathwing but I NEVER want to see his shit human form in HotS, EVER
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>>169822271
If anything the only likelihood is that they would be in their guise and take on dragon form when they ult. Any other concepts for Deathwing or Alexstrasza are delusions


>>169822465
good guess! being a priestess of the moon and firing sentinels all day really puts the oo in oom
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>>169822660
just look at League
it's working there
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>>169816037
give em w0t 4
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>>169822621
and than we're just getting /taunt as the only glimpse of the dragon
>justlikechromie.jpg
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>>169823045

boop
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>>169823298
Boop.
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>>169823045

But that's a created character, they can make the dragon 20 feet or whatever that is. Deathwing is like 100 feet. A midget in a tiny tank is one thing, it's not too much of a stretch. Deathwing would be destroyed as a result of scaling this severe.
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why dont people play arthas more
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>>169823450
look at >>169822621
Ragnaros and Azmodan are working just fine
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>>169823045
The problem with Hots is they have to take characters that already exist and copy the looks from the blizzard universe, rather than creating interesting new characters. HotS is just an ad game for other blizzard product.

I do wish they had more creative freedom, but people scream and shout when characters like Lunara or Brightwing are introduced because they didn't exist in the blizzard universe before.
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>>169823634
weak off-tank.
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>>169823634
Arthas into melee comps
Anub into caster comps
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>>169823045
they had to cheat a little with the fact that he's ethereal below "waist" so he looks proper without having ridiculous long hitbox.
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>>169822271
Malygos or Kalecgos with an aura that increases teams spell damage would be amazing
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>>169823760

But you notice that Rag gets closer to his actual size when he uses his trait. They did that for a reason because obviously it's what the character actually represents.

Similarly, if we get a scaled down Deathwing, he will absolutely have some sort of map-rending ability, and, will turn into what his size ought to be to do so.
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>>169816037
>when you do the same thing with Arthas 3 games later
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>>169824456
just chop off his tail :^)
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>lose 2 games because outplayed
>lose 10 because outdrafted since every fucking time there's a retard on our team who can't draft in masters
>lose another 2 because there's retards who go shit builds
>bronztrosity
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>diamond division.
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>>169827910
>Zagara on cursed hollow
lmao
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Jesus christ I am still stuck in master as a crusader. Can someone advise me on skills and gems?
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>>169828285
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>>169828285
If you're only level 60 just drop down to expert and get to 70. Monster scaling can be weird leveling up, especially in the range you're in right now. Once you hit 61 craft as much new gear for yourself as you can and it should last you to 70 just fine.
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>>169828573
What about gems? I replaced all of my diamond ones with strength ones before and it seemed to do almost nothing to my damage, so I just put the diamond ones back.
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>>169828915
Keep the best ruby you have in the helm for xp bonus, other than that it really doesn't make too much difference. Item level is probably a bigger factor for you right now
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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20753505247#post-1
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>>169829143
Haha you wasted time reading this, fag.
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>>169828263
We actually have won.
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>>169829172
>Lying by omission
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>>169829172
>qm
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>>169829204
:^)
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>>169824767
>Deathwing as a warrior with a fuckload of health, armor, and a firebreath for minion waves, but his single target damage has no real burst
>One ultimate is some super-tank mode ult where he's stupidly hard to kill and causes a big explosion when the armor/shield breaks
>The other ult he channels before flying into the air in full dragon mode for a few seconds, everyone can only see his massive shadow as he rains down death and destruction and rends the very ground, barely passable damage, great visibility, some of his abilities apply slow effects due to earth shattering effects
>Then the level 20 Cataclysm talent makes the duration longer, and all of his abilities in dragon mode break the ground making impassable terrain or damaging terrain
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is medivh fun if i solo qm?
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>>169830358
fuck no
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>>169828285
>>169828573
>>169828915
>diablo shitters
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>>169830176

print it!
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>Li-Ming is Medium
>Kael'thas is Easy
>Brightwing is Hard
>Murky is Hard
>Sgt. Hammer is Hard
>Tyrande is Medium
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>>169828263
Zagara is a good pick there. Not on the map but in this draft.
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How accurate is this?
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>>169833576
>all random talents from different rows

I don't think you understand how this meme works anon.
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>>169833736
How do memes work?
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>>169834184
Well specifically that one is a comparison of the various items, from worst to best. Hence the increased brain activity/power. If the items are unrelated, it's kind of pointless.
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>>169831459
>murky is hard
>valeera is hard
Pressing cheapshot is truly a difficult task.
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>>169834559
All melee assassins are kinda hard.
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>>169834559
>only use cs

You just prove she's too hard for you anon.
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>>169831459
The ratings are probably random. Illidan is rated medium and murky is hard, so they are saying murky is harder to play than Illidan. Murky really should be easy
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>>169834734
I mean there's nothing to really press. Ambush is only good against squishy assassins and only really works if you go full ambush build which is generally not a good idea. Garrote build can work but it's not super good, disables the enemy with a minor amount more damage but they can still move.

Cheapshot is just all around the best ability to use, disables the enemy so they can't do anything, lines them up for an easy burst, works in teamfights, fucks them up so your team can gangbang them.
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I miss D bro
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>>169812653
The Zeratul

S'uk
Dash
Salok
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>169828468
Why does no one make an SFM clip starring her?
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Jesus Christ, non-shit OP come back pls I'm sorry for everything I said I want you back
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>>169837036
I too want to see her geting bred by her horse
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>>169812653
The Maiev
Place you order
Wait.
Wait some more.
Keep Waiting.
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How do you counter Lucio + triple frontline?
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Why is Sylv such a slut for humans?
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>>169838330
>maiev will never rape you for 1000 years
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>>169838489
>only 1000
You some kind of sissy
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>>169838563
whoops meant 10k
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>>169838397
All the Windrunners have been involved with humans

Sylvanas with Nathanos
Alleria with Turalyon
Vereesa with Rhonin

It's just her corrupted line
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>>169838397
BIG
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>>169838915
WET
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>>169839023
TONGUE
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>>169838817
>>169838915
>still no aggressive dominant muscular and cute femorc hero to cuck everyone else along with Sonya
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>tfw 2 day winstreak getting mmr back up
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>Entire game Aba on the other team just keeps teleporting top and trying to take down a wall with his locust.
>Keep killing him because I'm rotating to get camps anyways.
>Has died 8 times and his team is down 5 levels.
>We are taking down his core and he finally takes down are wall.

Does this actually work?
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>>169839219
They will probably give Sonya a fem orc skin, there aren't any named female orcs other than Thrall's wife who is only relevant because she is Thrall's property
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>>169839236
>end s2 with 3.4k mmr in hl
>2.9k now
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>>169839584
>does abathur work
No, not really.
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>>169839767
>>169839584
Sorry I meant to say he was trying to take down are second keep. Like he was teleporting by the top camp.
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>>169839640
mmr dump at end of start season m8
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>doorbell rings
>afk for literally 30 seconds
>ally F2P Valeera already reports me for being afk while having 6 deaths

laffing @ people like this
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>>169840248
There were lots of game inbetween. Have a negative winrate this season. Really it's mostly 50% and what keeps me down is 10 losses I got on a single day playing on the weekends.
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TIGHT

HUMAN

BOIPUSS
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>>169840620
At least post someone who is in the game.
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>>169829172
It's crazy to me that ask these people are just whining about Quack Match and not, you know, Hoe League
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>>169833576
It's supposed to compare all like items, as you're only going to make one choice.
It was funny to think of how your brain size would increase as you built this lineup of talents but you messed the order
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Who's ready for their new husbando?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI
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>mewn makes 200-300 dollars a day whining like a baby about a dead moba game
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>>169842407
It's mostly from like one or two whales who are actually in love with him
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>>169842564
>gets 400 dollars from "that guy"
>donation message is nonsensical
>"haha thanks for the donation dude"
I will never understand how donating hundreds of dollars to a guy who makes more money than you playing video games, all for a "haha thanks dude" is worth it
>its my money back the fuck off?!
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>>169842407
>>169842564
>>169843018
>people are watching that retard shitter
>people are donating to that retard shitter
explain
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i want kerrigan to stab me to death with her wings
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>>169843245
idk aren't there only like four streamers

I know people who throw money at hots in every way possible to "support" the game

small indie company
also blizzard game with no gifting
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What skin would you love to see?

For me, it's a femorc Sonya
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>>169842268

>HotS start screen
>remastered Alexi music plays
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>>169843771
Space empress Tyrande, also beach party tyrande
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>>169843771
Vengeful Gladiator Sonya
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>>169843771
I want this so badly.
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>>169843771
Undead Rogue Valeera
SC1 Siege Tank or Infested Sgt Hammer
Star Princess Tyrande
King Leoric when he was alive
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>>169843771
School themed skins

Bookworm Jaina
Cheerleader Li-ming
Jock Varian
Goth Sylvanas
Professor Tyrande
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>>169844415
>Undead Rogue Valeera
We might get Maeiv Valeera
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>>169843771
White Rabbit Tracer
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>forced 50
>elo hell exists
>it's impossible to climb solo
good one hotsg
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>>169844428
>Cheerleader Li-ming
MUH

The professor should be Medivh.
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>>169843771
Classic Artanis
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>>169845007
>it's impossible to climb solo

That's something gold players say

>IS NOT MY FAULT IM ALWAYS PAIRED WITH BADDIES
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>>169845041
He can be a professor too, but I want Tyrande as the professor, she can have glasses and for her arrow she shoots those chalkboard pointer sticks wearing one of those cute tight business suits with the skirt.
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>>169845007
Only shitters say that, I've climbed from silver to plat in one season and ive stayed in plat since season 1.
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>>169843771
Fel-Corrupted Ragnaros
Zerg(ish) Anub'arak
Diablo 3 Diablo maybe next indev video... at Blizzcon they said it's nearly done
JUST SOMETHING for TLV
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ITT the hero you want the most who has absolutely no chance of ever getting in.
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>>169843771
Moon Priestess Maiev
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>>169846128
HelThuzad
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>>169845962
>JUST SOMETHING for TLV

Warcraft 2 Goblin Sapper unit, Olaf with the explosives instead of a shield, Baleog throwing dynamites and Eric can keep his slingshot cos it looks goblin enough already.

>>169844976
White Rabbit Chromie would be better considering she's always saying 'Im late!' and already is small like a bunny, bonus points if its just Chromie in a bunny suit or a playboy bunny leotard with bunny ears.
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>>169846442
instant purchase for TLV
can't get better than this
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>>169843771
Bridal Zagara and Groom Anub
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>>169846128
Edmund Duke in a Battlecruiser.
I could settle for not a Battlecruiser though.

Maybe he's a crotchety old guy smoking a cigar and wielding a shotgun while wearing power armour but sitting on a motorised rocking chair while a Battlecruiser silhouette is permanently shadowing him.

Heroics are the obvious Yamato Gun firing an AoE nuke, and the second would be Duke beaming up to the Battlecruiser to take more direct control and then 3 tiny Scourge shadows flying into view and blowing up the Battlecruiser sending it crashing into the battlefield in a straight line while Duke screams like an Academy, stunning and damaging enemies in his path.
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>>169846128
proper dragon >>169822271
don't care which one
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>>169828285
nothing matters aside from your weapon until 70. only takes a little bit of thought to work out what to do after that between 1h/2h synergies.

and like the other guy said drop down because you are just fucking yourself grinding because the drops don't get better evenly with difficulty (while exp goes so you basically outlevel the content with no upgrades). if you aren't blowing through elites in <10 seconds you're doing it wrong.
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>>169846885
I'm still extremely salty that they created boring Hammer instead of using FUCKING DUKE as the Siege Tank hero.

Also, the same goes for Kur'dran and Falstad.
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>>169843771
Disco Medivh
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>>169846128
>>169847075
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>hover nova in hero league
>team mates get salty and tell me not to play nova
>I play something else
>we lose

>hove nova in hero league
team mates get salty and tell me not to play nova
>I play nova
>we win

every single time
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>>169847075
Duke's voice actor is dead, would it even be Duke if some random person is voicing them? I mean they replaced him as Zeartul because Zeratul was still an important character, but Duke there would be no point.
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>>169847379
I don't think it would be too hard to find a voice actor that's good enough to imitate the original one in a believable way
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>>169847075
Duke in a siege tank would've been rad.

>>169847379
>Duke's voice actor is dead
Damn, I never knew.
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>>169847480
See you say that, but no matter who they find you'll still bitch about them because it doesn't sound as good as the original. It always happens.
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>>169847750
However bad it is, it would definitely have been better than Hammer. Yuck.
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why does brawl fucking exist

who the fuck enjoys this shit

>BUH ONE TOUSAN GOLD

you can literally just make something else that isn't complete garbage give 1000 gold
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>>169848004
It was supposed to be custom games that let you set the rules, but they are fucking retards and did this instead so they could release the same 5 brawls over and over again.
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>>169843974
I would say that nothing can top love goddess but honestly either of those two might
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>>169843771
Bikini Li Ming, bikini Jaina, bikini Valeera, bikini Sylvanas, bikini Chromie
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What's wrong with hammer?
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>>169850202

>not li li

gay?
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>>169850536
In regards to her design or abilities?
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>>169850681
I may be a degenerate, but at least i'm not a furry.
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>>169849950
The greek theme really does it for me, tyrande is perfection

>dat sideboob
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>>169850692
For whatever reason she's not liked, and I'm called a hammerfag for playing her
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>>169850681

I'd slather my tongue all over Li Li's wet little cunny, and just plunge my average dick into her because it'd be the only person that'd think my dick is big
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>>169851754
Cause hammer is such a lame and gay hero. Hurr i sit in a bush in turret mode with huge range so i can blast towers. Uh oh now i'm garbage when team fights start happening. MEME ROCKET CIRCLING THE MAP LOL.

She's just stupid, i hate seeing a hammer on either team.
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>>169850903
she's literally spilling out of that dress

thank god this game is not popular or the sjw's would have a field day with those GG's
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So, Friday.

Do we get a hero reveal, or the loot system/Ui overhaul, or both?

Taking bets
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>>169814185
you forgot columbian firewater
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>>169852152

what's the loot system and UI overhaul
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>>169851992
You have no idea how a hammer works, do you? I bet you get shitstomped by the enemy hammer every time and never fight with your own hammer properly. A defended hammer is one of the most powerful characters you can bring to a teamfight.
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>>169852240

Something promised at Blizzcon and hasn't come to fruition yet.
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>major gazlowe build
Why is this so fun holy shit
>NONE ARE PERMITTED WITHIN MY BORDERS, THIS IS A PRIVATE DOMICILE
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Good a time as any to post the official tier list

Undisputed Goddess Tier
Tyrande (Love Goddess), Kerrigan (Succubus),

Barely Not Goddess Tier
Jaina (Master), Nova (Novazon), Sonya (Super),

Almost Perfect Tier
Sylvanas (High Elf), Valeera (Demon Hunter), Li-Ming (Star Princess), Valla (Deputy),

Cute Lesbian Tier

Tracer

Beautiful (With Abnormalities) Tier
Chromie (Genie), Luanra, Zagara (Desert Queen), Auriel (Demonic)

Seems Good (But I'd Like To See More Before Making A Judgement Call) Tier
Johanna (Centurion), Morales (Love Doctor)

Average (With a Cute Face) Tier
Hammer

Built Like A Man (Saved From Dumpster Tier Due To Pretty Face and Nice Rack) Tier
Zarya (Thunder Guard)
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>>169852152
They said we are getting a hero reveal Friday.
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>>169851992
I pick napalm instead of the giant bullet, and I will try to position myself from where the enemy team came in fights so that I can ambush them if they try to fall back with the first stealth perk keeping em hidden. No bushes required.
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>>169852152
Its a huge event so my bet is on

>Duriel & Stukov reveal
>New UI/Loot system
>New skins and whatever the loot rewards are
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>>169852612
>duriel & stukov reveal
>not human stukov and infested stukov reveal
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>38:51 brawl

Fucking christ why doesn't backing heal you? Every time you wipe them you're almost dead, can't push core, and can't heal either. What a fucking piece of shit game.
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>>169852758
Human stukov will be a stupid fucking rare or epic skin
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You can't win BHB without teamfighting. It just isn't possible, right? One Xul kept avoiding teamfighting, which worked for a while, we were up two levels.

But then it came time to fight and it seemed as though we had nothing we could do. It was Varian, Anub, Lucio, Kael and Falstad. I felt so helpless.
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>>169846128
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>>169852994
Fuck that desu, I want a vice admiral Alexei Stukov commandeering his battlefleet
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>>169853752
It's not going to happen.
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>>169853392

If your composition has no teamfight value, you're in for a bad time regardless of map or skill level.

Meme push teams work below gold, but you will always feel like your fights are a massacre without a well composed team comp, with clear counterplay. Heroes that are "good on the map" do not necessarily mean they are always good picks, people just don't get that.
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Why is every Leoric so fucking useless?

And why the fuck did I come back to this game. I hate the playerbase.
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>>169854668
Because you're a faggot.
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>>169854748
>tfw prefer the models of morrowind to the potatoheads of oblivion

might go back and play both while waiting for this patch/update/teaser, desu
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>>169854429
No fucking shit
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>>169854668

Lucio is literally BEST. And you hate the game because you're bad at it obviously. You blame "retard teammates" as you refuse to body soak on Abathur and only play QM or insta-pick shit heroes like Azmodan because "lol stupid team imma carry u by not helping ever" kind of players that don't deserve to have opinions.
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>have difficulties in getting interested in the game due to pure valeera and varian
>try out leoric
>it's vs valeera, nova, samuro and varian
>get point and clicked by varian's taunt and valeera
>die
>repeat this but with my team
Between this and League, I'm not sure what's more frustrating.
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>>169823450
Aurelion is bigger than PLANETS
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>>169823450
When they put Deathwing in, he will BE the map.
The lanes will be paths up and down his spine and if there's too much teamfighting on one lane, he'll roll to that side, dumping off anyone who doesn't stick themselves down.
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>>169855115

This game is VERY unforgiving because of the length of matches. You have to be on top of your positioning and what you can get away with at all times or you fucking lose or die constantly. In League, you have an hour to fuck up and get OP items and shit and whichever team wins is the one with less retards on it that can farm a few fucking items in an hour. In HotS, if two friendly heroes dies at 8 minutes you can lose to a YOLO Core rush if you don't defend properly. At least if you lose it usually isn't after 40 minutes of RAT strats and bullshit, you just fucking lose and queue again and it doesn't waste your time.
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>>169855101
>Lucio
>Never mentioned Lucio
Typical cumrag making wild assumptions and using them as a basis for shitty accusations.
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>>169855115
>play a few dozen games of URF
>suddenly have the patience to tolerate literally anything else

ty rito

no idea why this mode is hyped honestly


>>169823450
>deathwing is 100 feet
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>>169855296
I'd be down with that, what would the minions be?
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>>169855613
Tentacles and toxic bloods, just like the spine encounter in Dragon Soul
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>>169855690
Oh and those elementals that go nuclear if they absorb stacks of the bloods.
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>>169846128
Diablo II's Paladin
Diablo II's Barbarian
All the PCs from Diablo II
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>>169855690

Which race or what creature built his armor again?
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>>169839832
That's usually called backdoor i belive friendo, it's kind of a meme
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>>169855613
Dragon fleas
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>>169855960
Wasn't it enslaved dwarves or goblins or something like that?
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>>169856151
Goblins.
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>>169854469
Yeah, we got hosed. I thought we had a good comp too, Zarya, Artanis, Xul, Gul'dan and Malf, but we got completely crushed in every teamfight.

I appreciate the advice. I need to be more mindful with my picks. My only win tonight ended up being a 32 minute game on Mines of all things, as Tassadar picked into Valeera. I ended up dying to her a billion times anyway until Level 20 Archon.
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>Tfw all of your favorites are either just shit heroes who underperform when compared to like 8 other heroes, or are flat out so easily counterpicked, picking them is pointless in almost every situation.

i hate these devs
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>>169857527
>really like Lunara
>it feels like there's always a better pick

Or maybe I'm just Bronze.

>>169856026
Goblins, as I recall. Something about the Twilight's Hammer, too.
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>>169855772
How would you differentiate the kits of the Paladin and D2 Barb from the Crusader and D3 Barb? Someone posted a really neat paladin concept a while ago, but I'd like to see your ideas too.
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>>169855772
>Diablo II's Barbarian

That'd be great, make him into a support/specialist with abilities based on Warcries

Q-Battle Cry: Gives allies Evasion for 2 seconds
W-Find Potion: Gives allies a Regeneration orb
E-War Cry: Stuns enemy heroes in a conic area
R1- Grim Ward: Places an indestructible ward that reduces enemy armor, takedowns empower it but this bonus is lost upon death.
R2-Battle Command: Increases ability damage done by allies by 10% for each ally affected by it.
D-Howler: Has 25 physical armor, can activate it to gain 50 physical armor for 5 seconds.
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>have vikings
>ask everyone to group because we have vikings
>retards then proceed to spread to different lanes
>say "we won't win if we can't play with vikings"
>autistic vikings player thinks I'm cricizing him despite not doing so
>groups his vikings and feeds them face first into Li-Ming on purpose to throw
>johanna was a bot

QM is suffering
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>>169855115
>play sgt hammer in qm
>it's vs 4 assassins
hahaha
fun game
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>Play Murky in QM
>Make them eat my shit and suck my fish dick

Serves them right for bullying Murky for so long.
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>>169858631
>least deaths in the team is the specialist
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>>169858298
Or just make him an alternate skin for Sonya.
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Holy fuck lucio is so fun. It's literallly ole playing him in overwatch.
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>>169857527
Besides tanks a lot of my favorites are specialists..
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>>169858631
>2 you outrange
>another you can knockback instantly
>another that should have little ability to escape.
something like boe you would have destroyed them because thrall might actually figure out all he has to do is stand next to you to win.

you post should be
>play a more strategic character
>they can't do anything to stop us until at least ten if we mindlessly group 5 or use a more proper 4-1
>team runs around like retards, as usual, wasting early advantages.
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>>169858298
I like the shoutiness theme you're going for, but knowing Blizzard, they'd find some way to meme it up with some sort of Fus Roh Da reference.
And if they don't, the underage shitfucks playing the game will.
>>
Why don't they have more interconnected shit? Imagine if you had to hit 70 in a d3 season to unlock a unique mount/profile pic for hots/WoW and they did that every season?
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>>169860569
>Why don't they have more interconnected shit? Imagine if you had to hit 70 in a d3
Because no one plays that terrible fucking game.

Literally a dead game, and rightfully so. The next event is probably going to be hearthstone related.
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>>169846128
Daggoth
>>
>win 10 out of 11 games
>followed by 12 game loss streak
>demoted back to d4

I really don't understand how some of these people end up in diamond. Especially after blizzard said they were decreasing the population.

I'd say 75% of my games are draft throws with no CC, because none of these players know how to draft. Even after being told how retarded they are.
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>>169864168
Back when the season started there was a like n10 GM who didn't know how to play at all and he was in every fucking stream until people catch up in points and he was demoted to nothing.

The point is you can be carried by your team.
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>>169858013
There's a lot of combinations and you don't even have to use what's actually viable because you can just make it viable. Like someone said I think it would be completely reasonable for them to make the alt genders their own heroes
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>>169861165
Like sc2 and hots? Both continue to get content out the ass. Diablo is one of their core franchises they could easily rehabilitate if they stopped fucking around with garbage like overwatch. They are probably just trying to figure out how to implement a cash shop.
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>>169838330
people joke around about waifu and shit on the net

but I would genuinely love to fuck maiev (or any other hot as fuck nelf tbqh) for the rest of my life. not memeing at all. i'd instantly fuck a hot nelf.
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>>169864865
They already tried a real cash auction house and it was a complete fucking failure
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>>169865986
He probably meant cash shop for Overwatch, but it already sells loot boxes, so I don't know what he's going on about.
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>>169866224
Still waiting on loot boxes for HotS
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>>169866405
Unless they're going to get me the real skins, I don't even care.
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>>169852612
There will be only one hero revealed on friday. The schedule shows 10 minutes for reveal nd another 20 minutes for panel about him/her on sunday. That's barely enough time.

They don't want to show too much ahead, that's why In-Dev videos haven't had two heroes in them for a while. This way you can hype twice as frequently. Prepare for this year's Blizzcon to only show one hero too.
>>
bampo
>>
I really wish Blackthorne was in hots
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>all these 7k and 10k heroes i want
>only got 10k
fufufufu
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>>169871427
I don't think I ever fell below 60k gold in the last 10 months, and I own 90% of heroes in game, never spending IRL cash.
How are you so poor?
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>>169871573
He has a life and doesn't spend 12 hours a day playing the damn game?
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>>169871573
>>169871641
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>>169871641
>log on twice a week
>clear dailies (often in beginner AI)
>sometimes brawl
>have over a hundred thousand
>and the majority of heroes

It really doesn't take much.

also; finally being able to buy skins with wow gold.
WHEW
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>>169871573
shit anon I've been playing pretty regularly since beta Iquit for a few months around the time tracer chromie medivh came out since I played murky mostly and they made me ragequit I hope you fucks are enjoying him now especially how much everyone shit on me when they saw me playing him and I only have a total of around 300k gold earned and only have about half the cast 4 master skins and a few gold mounts and well over 1k games
how many matches do you have?
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>>169871946
Around 3k games, been playing since late alpha.
As anon >>169871902 said, it doesn't take much on daily basis, but you have to play the game without brakes, log in twice-thice a week and play a few games.

Then again, people yesterday were bitching on OW reddit about rank decay if you don't play at least 7 games a week, claiming they barely have time for 2-3, so maybe I'm just a loser with no life and every other person on the planet can't handle finding 2 hours a week of free time.
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>>169871573
I started playing this game a month ago and it's the first MOBA I've ever played
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>>169872316
Ah, well then don't throw yourself at 10k heroes immidiately. 2 and 4k heroes are plenty fine.
Alternatively, I hate to be a Blizzshill, but there is a bundle with ALL 2k heroes for like 5 bucks, it's a ridiculously great deal if you are completely new.
Have fun anon, I hope you stay...forever
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>>169872316
Oh, then that's normal and completely fine. Gold is mostly just from sticking around, not necessarily playing a lot or being good.

>dailies
>brawl
>event (200 per win, or something)

That's the bulk of your income. There's also grinding Vs. AI on Hammer/Sylvanas with a stim for, like, 40-50 a win, but that's all tedious and gross.

>>169872447
Seconding this. I'm the biggest jew around but they did have some bundle was that a pretty okay value if you're fresh.
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>>169872283
the game left alpha less than 800 days ago
at 3k games that averages almost 4 games a day every day which is around 2 hours a day give or take if you arent playing against bots which isnt really playing the game
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>>169872590
That sounds about right. My routine is playing 2-3 games an evening, then every other saturday or so I'd get sucked in a friend's 5-man party and waste the day playing between 8 and 13 games.
And I do play a lot more vs AI than I'd prefer, when I wan't to just clear quests; like when I come back from a trip or didn't have time for evening games for a few days.
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>5000 games played
>literally 90% Vs. AI

help why do they include afk training games in the counter, I want to hide my shame
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>portrait reward is peak rank
>not ending rank
>bronze is more difficult than diamond

ahhh
>>
Is solo tank as Varian possible?
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>>169872956
Fuck that shit Anon. Let everybody know that you're a Grand Master AI player
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>>169872956
could be worse. im 99% ai. solo.
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>>169872956
>>169873846
There are people in this game that play since alpha and never did a match against non-AI opponents.
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>>169839219
>Johanna orc skin confirmed
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>>169873290
yes
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>>169851863
>person
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>>169873290
Possible, but seems to work best if the enemy team is melee-heavy.
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>start yestarday at d2
>good streak of decent teammates
>+10 personal adjustment
>enter shitters
>about to get demoted to d5
>-20 personal adjustment
Good game you've got here Blizz. So glad I'm forced to pair up with feeding shitters. I swear to god 90% of the diamond playerbase have 0 game knowledge.

This game doesnt even put me on tilt. I've just accepted the fact that there's nothing I can do to convince these people not to pick shit comps or engage 5v3.
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>>169871902
If you buy a wow token with gold how much bnet currency does it convert to?
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>>169872956
I feel you.
I get embarassed whenever people from /hotsg/ add me.
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>>169874928
85-90k to $15, I think.

>>169875048
I could've sworn that at one point Vs. AI (or at least Training) matches weren't counted. Am I crazy? Ahhh.
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>>169874231
Shit, that'd make me play Johanna.
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>>169872447
I got all the heroes in that bundle already, but I was thinking about buying the conqueror bundle that has Butcher and a 30day stimpack. The game is already free and it's only like 15-20 yurodollars so why not desu

>>169872581
Yeah I've played every brawl up until now, most of my games are AI games though since I'm not very good yet. And there's only like 10 gold per match in that

None of the bundles have the heroes that I really want though ;_>;
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>>169874928
depends on if you're euro or not, its super expensive on eu, p cheap on us
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>>169846128
blizzard don't like tauren enough
(huln an baine could do the shit)
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>>169875225
>85k-90k
lucky you ,i bought mine for 165k
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>>169846128
Blightcaller
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>>169830176
he could scorch bushes rendering them useless for cover
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>>169846128

>tfw druid never
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>>169878240
>azmodan
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>>169879678
What's that got to do with the Druid?
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Full parry varian + colossal faggot smash is pretty fun
>sonya leap duoq
>lo'gosh goy skin
finally i can complete my dream of screaming with my barbarian gf
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>>169846128
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>>169880550
The image of a barbarian couple marauding together is pretty cute, honestly.
>the couple the slays together stays together.
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anyone wanna do the wow mount run in QM/VS AI? im veteran hots player, silenced, EU

Medieval#21104

no leftists
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>>169881039
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Most fun hero for solo qm?
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>>169881039
W-what are you silenced for?
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>>169881496
Nova
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>>169881496
>0 sustain unless talented
>makes people think they can solo you
Push lanes all day.
Click e on anyone who gets close to you. W+executioner=dead enemy team.
Skeleton mages.
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>>169882136
one of the top 5 brain dead characters in a brain dead game

i can see why i would appeal to someone on hotsg
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>>169882209
Queuing into QM with him is actually pretty difficult sometimes.
If the matchup is wonky (which it will be 50%+ of the time) you'll have a difficult time getting into the fight without dying.
I'd recommend him because it teach anyone, even diamond or above players, some fucking patience. And not patience like "wait for the right moment to gank" patience, the kind of patience where you have to stand around helplessly for ten seconds before getting 2 attacks in and then either committing to the fight though you're incredibly likely to die or run away.
His laning is also pretty difficult since his trait is useless against hard pushers like Rag.
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>>169882417
Earlygame against ranged makes me want to kill myself really, and nobody in my team wants to swap lanes
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>>169882560
Just need to poke with q and stay under towers
His trait makes it so that your lane doesn't get pushed too hard and only engaging when your d is up will help preserve your health so that you don't have to hearth twice before the first objective.
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>>169882136

>executioner

Dont listen to bronze
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>>169884402
I'm almost always low on mana, so taking scythe cooldown has never been something I wanted.
The vulnerable on bone prison only helps during ganks, otherwise no one really jumps on the guy you bone in teamfights.
Executioner procs off your e and has insane synergy with your w, it also triggers multiple times during a teamfight, typically netting more damage than vulnerable.

The trait talent is never that good, even if you take the otehr trait talents.
it just doesn't do much that late into the game, it's fine on Tomb though..
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>>169867285
where is all this info?
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Guys the new heroes are Stukov a specialist and Rohana a support
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>>169885565
proof chicken. jpeg
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>Stukov gets released
>another Starcraft specialist that influences battle from afar
>chances of getting Mengsk drop 1000%
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>>169885565
>rohana
my dick
Selendis and Vorazun when
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>People actually want a nobody Starcraft hero instead of KelThuzad an actual lich
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>>169886192
Kel'Thuzad is definitely coming this year. As is Velen, Rock N Roll, Maiev, Mekkatorque, Miora, D.Va, Malthael, Aidan. These are all coming 2017, it's a given
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>>169886192
Never ever

Maiev when ;-;
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>>169886418
Hearthstone gets her before we do..
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>>169886418
The last thing we need is another samuro hard counter.
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>>169886654
>before we do
>he thinks we're still getting a Zeratul skin
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>>169886741
You mean a Valeera skin
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>>169886934
Valeera doesn't have blink you fool.
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>>169887034
What the fuck are you faggots even talking about?
Stop taking away the hype from Stukov.
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>>169887034
Zertatul does tho
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>>169885269
Friday: New Hero Reveal 18:00 - 18:10 (CET)

Sunday: Panel about the new hero, with Claudio Gentilini 19:00-19:20 (CET)
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>>169887394
Wtf i love poles now
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>>169818838

Has there been any leaks about who the next hero is?
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>>169887585
Terokk on a raptor
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>>169887585
Proenix,twitter guy said that "you may have seen him in a video/promotional image
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>>169887642
it's obama
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>>169887394
>splitting it into two days with a day inbetween
Faggots
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>>169887783
We already have Anub'arak obama
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Kel'thuzad when
Maiev when
Tichondrius when
Mannoroth when
Grom when
Cairne/Baine when
Archimonde/Kil'jaeden when
Vashj when
Old gods when
Azshara when
Liadrin when
Yrel when
Mountain giant when
Shandris when
Alchemist when
Dragons when
Moira or old guyThaurissian when
Anduin when
Velen when
Paletress or Whitemane when
Broll when
Ner'zhul ele shaman when
Mekkatorque when
Vol'jin (useless fuck) when
Garrosh when
Alleria when
Cyadea when
Mephisto when
Baal when
Lesser evils still missing when
Imperius when
Java or Spearzon when
Adria when
genderbent d3 heroes when, I need that femmonk
Butterfly girl when
Flayer when
Assassin when
Vorazun when
Mengsk #1 and #2 when
Duke when
Warfield when
Stukov when
Selendis when
Rohana when
Izsha when
Firebat when
Fenix when
Duran/Narud when
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>>169847146
This
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Do you need to do a promotion match to go up divisions or is it only for leagues?
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>>169887968
>Butterfly girl when
Stop right there faggot.
Not only was Maghda a shit boss fight with a shit voice actor and shit lines, she was a shitty plot device with dumbass minions.
Her singular redeeming feature is her aesthetics.
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>>169888432
Every single fucking time the bar fills.
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>>169887968
>Kel'thuzad when
Soon, according to leak
>Mengsk #2
...why? Hopefully never
>Stukov
Tomorrow
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>>169889267
that's dumb as fuck
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How would Stukov even play?
He looks like a greymane type hero
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>>169889280
>soon
"In the works" for Blizzard could mean any time in the next four years.
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>>169889409
All the heroes mentioned earlier in the post were literally next 4 heroes released. If KT wasn't going to be finished soon, he'd mention other heroes that were at this point in the works too, but at more advanced stage, like Lucio and Stukov
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Kel'Thuzad is cool and all but I don't get why he's the top request

Then again I can't come up with anything better so thats probably why. I don't get the Maiev memery though
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>>169890154
He's a popular figure in WC3 lore and a 2x raidboss in WoW including being the hardest raid boss of the original game
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>>169890228
Meh i think c'thun was tougher assuming you're not breezing by with naxx gear
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>>169890154
Not to mention plebs like me who haven't played him as a raid boss got to experience him via Hearthstone
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>>169889280
>according to the leak
The leak is no longer accurate, they specifically threw in a bunch of garbage to spite it.
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>>169890154
I didn't get Maiev too, didn't care for her much lore-wise.

But one day during a talk with a friend there came up a kit for her; a stealth sorta' Anub'arak warrior, with low (for a warrior) HP but high mobility with blinks and good CC

And now I want her and I know it'll never be, but maybe some senpai at Blizz will notice.
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>>169890304
C'thun was mathmatically impossible when released although after the fix he was still extremely hard, but yeah with equal levels of gear Kel'thuzad was more difficult and the last boss of the game
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>>169890958
Well maybe your're right, i only did it with well geared people and some nasty shamans
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>mfw Harrison Jones is the next hero
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>>169885565
>tfw if you take me on a ruse cruise
I"M TRUSTING YOU HERE SENPAI
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>>169885894
>Keep getting Starcraft specialists that influence things from afar
>It becomes a legitimate strat to have 5 heroes behind the walls spamming spells
>tfw
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>>169891910
>>169885894
No chance Stukov's gonna be next Abathur. He'll be more like Gazlowe/Xul/Zagara. Never really inside the proper fight, but always at the outskirts and throwing shit.

Mengsk will come, sooner than Kel'thuzad
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post yfw Stukov has 35% winrate on release
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>>169892185
>people claiming KT never ever
>79% winrate on release
>tfw
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>people think Stukov is going to be unique and not some Alarak abomination
>q does x damage
>w increases damage or does aoe damage/skillshot
>e is some sort of blink/flash ability that has a gimmick
>r 1 = massive damage
>r 2 = useless albeit fun ult
>>
what's the most believable way to throw games ?
I want that bronze portrait but my mmr seed is in diamond this season
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>>169892517
Q throw corrosive spit deals damage and lowers armor by 10
W summon batch of infested, work like anub beetles last 15 second
E throw acid vat slowing people in the puddle and light damage
D channel 2 seconds to Infest building, friendly forts gain 2nd health bar, get disabled but spawn 4 infested every 5 seconds, enemy firts just get disabled for half the time
R1 fuckhuge cooler ultralisk than kerrigan
R2 fuckhuge flying battleship that infests all structures for it's duration and drops infested everywhere, very small damage similar to Hyperion to enemy units in range
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>>169893339
pick off meta and play overly aggressive
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>>169893339
misfiring displacment spells like booping people into your team as lucio or never healing as malf to "save mana for W"

hyper aggression and fearless tanks also can bait your team in
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>>169892517
I don't want unique mechanics, I just want him for the looks.
I want him to be generic chill in lane and throw summons specialist.
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>>169895972
So you want a Zagara skin?
Fuck that shit.
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Can I get a complete list of the spells which interrupt channeling?

Need it for E.T.C play.
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>>169898198
Any Silence, Stun or displacement
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>tfw lucio in your team picks the shit ulti
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Would you want this meme in the game?

I wouldn't even mind if they gave him a serious kit
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>>169898924
Butcher skin
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>>169890154
He's one of the most important Warcraft characters that they haven't added yet. It also doesn't help that around two or so years ago, they showed off a HotS model for him at Blizzcon, so a ton of people got hyped for him and are still running off that hype today.
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>>169885565
>>169885894
>>169887206
>>169889280
>>169892185
Where are you all getting Stukov from? I thought an actual dev leaked a few days ago that the next hero is a Protoss?
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>>169843771
Beach Boy Kael'thas.
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>>169855498
Problem with URF is it was a fun meme mode when it was first released, but now everyone just plays the same 10-12 OP champs to faceroll games, and whoever cheeses the hardest wins.
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>its another qm teamcomp episode
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Alarak Q, W
Anub Q, E, R1
Raynor Q
Cho R1, R2 Q if Gall gives unstoppable
Falstad R1
Valla R1
Kael'thas E
Sylvanas R1, R2
Muradin Q
Thrall R1
Johanna W with D, R1, R2
Dehaka Q, R1
Sonya Q
Uther R1, R2 with E
Malf R1
Tychus W, (D)elete
Hammer E 1 think
Good Gazlowes E, R1
Brightwing W, R1
Zeratul super well placed R1
Ragnaros R1
Tyrande E
Medivh R1, R2
Auriel E, potentially Q
Morales E
Lucio Q
Chen R1
Kerrigan W, E
Diablo R1, Hellgate at 20
Tyrael R1, R2 if he's good
Artanis E
Zagara R1
Butcher E, R1
Guldan R1
Illidan R1
Zarya R1, R2
Garden Terror Q

Also preemptive stuns during the startup, most cleansers, high ranged damage you didn't catch will fuck you up.

Maybe I forgot a few, but these can reliably interrupt your channeling without having to enter your range/get the stun off anyway
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>>169898924
Map objective. Elwyn/Duskwood map.
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>>169859805
I don't even play Overwatch, but I'm having so much fucking fun with HotS Lucio that I might have to.
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>>169846128
Any Karazhan boss would be ok by me.
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wew
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>>169901415
Attunmen with his mount would be fun, like Kled from LoL
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How's that pile of gold coming along, /hotsg/?
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>>169901415
>Shade of Aran
>Flamewreath ult where enemies within range are hit with huge dot if they move
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>>169901940
I have like 90k right now and a shitload of battlenet balanece because of the wow token.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>169902561
what is this?
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>>169902594
Its from their facebook
related to the announcement tomorrow
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>>169902561
>>169902594
it's a pylon warping in

Karax basically confirmed
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>>169901940
112k

HL did it for me since I only care to play a few heroes (meme heroes that don't get nerfed) I don't care to buy more heroes since they're not meme-tier and/or meta--which just gets nerfed, pick/ban 24/7 anyway.
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>>169902561

Selendis
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>>169902680
So is a protoss after all.
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>>169903032
i wish
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>>169902561
Hahahahahahaha stukovfags btfo
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>>169900996
Fuck, I forgot Stitches Hook.
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>>169903689
>implying stukov won't be a second surprise reveal at the end
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>>169903884
>double hero reveal

I hope so.
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>>169902561
>Boring ass Karax.

They couldn't even choose a good Protoss to release.
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>>169902561
wew another tassadar
>>
It's a Probe i bet
>spawn buildings which constantly spawn units to push lanes
>spawn pylons to grant mana regen
>call in mothership ultimate
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>>169905171
I'd love that. Gimme more Gaz/Azmo/Aba meme heroes.
>>
>>169902561
>no maive
ded gaem
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>>169905171

Basic Campfire hero when?
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>>169905680
We already have rag
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>>169905768
Oh yeah, you can use Lil' Rag as a cooking fire.
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I'm starting to feel like ranked mode is nothing less than a torture chamber simulator for all but the best players.

>>Their team has a balanced comp with frontline, support, dps
>>Your team has first pick zeratul, 2 specialists, dehaka solo tank and lucio

"This is fine, I'll just keep queueing, bad drafts happen. Forced 50 is just a myth anyway"

>>Lose 3 games in a row
>>"I'll keep playing, can't get any worse"
>>Lose 5 more games
>>"Fine, I'll just play until I win one"
>>Lose another 4

Why is it like this?
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>>169906927
I honestly don't understand how anyone can enjoy hl in this game.
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>>169902561
>>
Guys, is there anyone who got out of gold hell and what hero did you use?

I got most luck with Alarak but sometimes I'm forced to last od 2nd before last pick and have to heal or tank which is auto loose since my team keeps solo diving like headless chickens.
>>
Who ever this new hero is he better way, "You need additional pylons."
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>>169902561
Excitement level: 0
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>>169902561
>>
Drawfag Request:

Stukov, Kel'thuzad and Maiev either sitting in a bar or at the dugout players bench.
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>>169902561
>it's not Kel'thuzad
>it's another shitty protoss support
lmao
>>
>Lucio
>Karax

Maybe we should go back to Warcraft assassins.
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>>169909776
Most likely specialist that counters meme splitpushing.

Like, more than Ragnaros anyway, that one's strength is countering a single stron push
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>>169902561

Please, be literally ANY protoss but Karax. That garbage character was nothing but literally dwarf protoss. NOTHING MORE. Give us Selendis, Vorazun or Rohana. A female protoss would be really neat, but more than anyone else, give us Fenix, he was the most requested character for a whole goddamn year.
>>
>Karax confirmed
>can finally build a full Protoss team

Inferior lifeforms swerve.
>>
>>169906927
I have 120 wins, 90 losses and I went up from Gold 5 to Gold 3. Even when you're doing fine, it still sucks.
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>>169910507
If he was Dwarf Protoss he would actually be a good character. Instead he's more like CSI Protoss.

>Our one Starcraft character this year is going to be Karax.

So fucking stupid.
>>
>>169910507
There's nothing Fenix or Vorazun would add to the game.

Everything they wanted for Fenix was implemented in both Artanis and Leoric. There's no mechanic left for him. We already have a Protoss Templar.

Vorazun would just be Zeratul 2.0 feat. memedashing all over the place while invulnerable.
Selendis does nothing but slurp Amoncock.
>but m-muh waifus
No.
>but m-muh diversity, still no femproto-
Not an argument.

Karax atleast has a niche as phasesmith, focusing on buildings, which translates nicely into a HotS specialist. No Purifier beam though, little sad about that.
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>>169911254
See your limiting yourself to named characters. We could have had an Adept or something.
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>>169911254
I just want a fucking dragoon, is that so hard?
>>
>>169911710
Just put Selendis as an adept, why couldn't she be one? She's barely developed anyway, but she'd look genuinely cool in adpet armor. Plus, full protoss team could've used ranged assassin. But I guess they're getting a specialist.
>>
So what was up with that spanish twitter post from two days ago? Some Blizz guy answered that we could've already seen the new hero in some other teaser picture *wink wink*. But there were only Stukov eggs, where could've possibly been Karax?
>>
>>169903884
>>169903954
>more starcraft heroes announced during a random event than during the starcraft themed event
that would be so depressing yet so hilarious
>>
>>169912196
Maybe they were supposed to release this gif earlier. Who knows.
>>
PROBE HERO
>>
How fucking bad is the average player when i can literally go every game double up to 7 times more siege damage and experience than other teammates, double or triple XP contribution, somewat high hero damage, literally taking EVERY BUILDING and several objectives, yet they sperg out, manage to die 4v3 in their favor with literally all 4 of them dying to 3 people... and then they blame me.

Cancerous game
>>
NEWSFLASH: No one cares about characters added because of what they "add". We care because they are characters from previous games we've grown attached to. Karax is a boring as fuck character. Chromie is a boring as fuck character. Li Li is boring. No one actually likes Lúcio.

We DO like Fenix, Grommash, Kel'Thuzad, Malthael, Maiev etc
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>>169902561
"My war has been one of design."
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>>169912953
I don't like Maiev, but I'd rather have her than Karax. At least her and Illidan's interactions might be amusing.
>>
>>169913051
He better be well fucking designed mechanically! This fat faggot cost us Stukov, at least make him fun to play. Two beta characters with dreadlocks instead of chill yet badass russian.
>>
starcrafters sell this hero to me
who is this lorax guy and what does he do
>>
Maybe we're getting both Stukov and Karax.

With them both we could finally have a full Protoss and a full Zerg team. We still need two more Terrans for the full Terran team.
>>
>>169913221
Wait, Rastafarian man of many voodoos and psionics was announced? Nice, always liked Tosh. Why would you call him a beta though? He's black, that makes him the alpha cucker in every room by default.
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>>169913358
He's a phasesmith (architect), he builds things that buff/spawn guys.
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>>169913358
>>
>>169913358

Blizzard felt the protoss needed a dwarf on the Spear of Adun, so he is that. NOTHING MORE. Most boring character of the whole game.
>>
>>169913704
Karax. Not Tosh.
>>
>>169913525
>Raynor
>Tychus
>Morales
>Hammer
>Nova
We have 5 already. No tank, but you can use Rexxar or Muradin if you have the proper skins.
>>
>>169913951
Forgot about Morales and Hammer. Still, Swann when?
>>
>>169913802
Sound unbiased as fuck lol
>>
>>169913051
How does a protoss even grow a neckbeard?
>>
>>169913358
He is pretty much space gazlowe
>>
>>169913848
But you said dreadlocks. The fuck is your problem? Their nerve links look nothing like that.
>>
Rohana pls...
why even hope...
>>
>>169906927
How can anyone believe forced 50 is a myth?
Every time you win, the game puts you against higher mmr opponents until you start losing, then it starts notching your mmr down respectively. competitive multiplayer games have had this for years.
>>
>>169914285
With lots of care and love.
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>>169909681
Seconded.
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>>169914090

Play the goddamn game. There is literally nothing unique about him. Dwarf Protoss.

>>169914494

My glorious slut protoss waifu. Wish for her so much.
>>
>>169909681
So sad...
[spoilers]It'll take some time but I'll do it! Now I hope Stukov doesn't get announced...[/spoilers]
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If this Karax dude can spawn protoss dudes and all that shit. I'm all up for that. I love the theme of spawning an army, kind of like Azmodan.
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>>169913951
>no tank
>Hammer
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>>169915142
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>>169915142
She drives a siege tank, not a main battle tank.
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>>169915136
Most likely he'll warp in buildings; cannons and shield generators.
If he gets any units, it'll be heavy machinery like maybe a Collossus will be his ult.
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>>169915136
He makes machines and takes control of them.

That's his gimmick in the SC2.
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>most boring protoss there is
nice game blizztards
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>>169915626
>>169915650
Not bad if that's so.
>mfw spawning some heavy machinery to fuck shit up

If Monstrosity from Abathur was useful enough, it'd be my ult to go for. I love Monstrosity.
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>>169915626
Karax has a few CoOp abilities that could find use.
Like, Artanis got Purifier Beam, which is one of Karax calldown abilities.
Other stuff that would work are Solar Lance, which is a sweeping multiple use laser, and Chrono Wave, which speeds production up, but could be translated into either CD reduction for his team, or some meme "all friendly minions have 200% attack speed, movement speed and spawn 200% faster for X seconds" to laugh at bronzies failing to respond properly. Shit because it'd give waaay to much EXP to the enemy team.
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>a spaniard twitter that works with blizzard (?) announced: 'Explicitly has not been shown, but maybe you have seen hidden in some video or promotional image.' regarding the new hero
>Karax was never teased or shown in promotional image
>IEM scheduled the exclusive announcement and mentioned that it'll be 20 minutes long
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>>169916140
just have it so that minions spawned by this effect give 25% exp what could go wrong
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It's a huge fucking update incoming, you guys are retarded to think they'll only release one new hero
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>>169916359
Two heroes annoucement
Revamped lvling system
Loot thing
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>>169916526
No they are also announcing the changes they said would be coming at blizzcon.
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>>169916359
>tease stukov
>release lucio

I feel like they're cheating, desu

>>169916526
>huge update

Looking forward to this the most, though.
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Just watch, they're going to rework Leoric.
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How do you guys keep going when you get 5 games in a row with team mates that are blatantly clueless about heroes they go against, always out of position every fight and always seem to think it is smart to solo push a lane post lvl 20?

To me this seems to be the worst part of the game, proper matches are so few and far in between all the 1 sided ones that you just dont get the feel of progressing when you get same type of people in low gold that you do in low diamond.
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>>169916897
Yes please. My friend loves playing as a spoopy skeleton, but QM players never pick tanks or high health heroes, so he hardly ever gets to shit on someone. Please increase his viability in other matchups!
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>>169916526
Doubful, it's probably a few new skins, the new hero and then maybe some rework reveals. Shouldn't expect more than a new indev with a talk about their new hero though.
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>>169916897
I fucking love Leoric. I wouldn't mind this.
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>>169916897
wasn't it even confirmed that leoric would be reworked around march
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>>169917329
>pick leoric on quick meme the other day
>chogall on the other team
>mfw

>>169917454
As long as they keep spectral leach.
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>>169917238
Ignore everyone, try your best, if you're still losing then you're not trying hard enough. Improve your play and disregard everyone else.
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>>169917329
The way QM matchmaking works, Leoric will always have at least one other warrior to harass. Though that warrior may end up being Rexxar or Anub.
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>>169917480
They didn't give a date, but they said they were going to give him a rework after they nerfed his not entomb ult in december or something.
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Blizzard is Ass Mad about the leaks. So now it's all up in the air. It's going to be a wild ride this year.
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>>169917560
Or Muradin, who always jumps out.
Or Varians who never take Tank in the first place, especially since the other specs got buffed.
Real talk though, while it's cool against tanks, it really only needs low mobility frontline heroes to shine. You counter tanks, but the ability works the same against everyone. And it works only if you hit, and they don't escape.
No one fucking plays these heroes in QM.
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>>169917896
>169917896
ok
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>>169917560
Maybe I just suck but in my experience Leoric sucks when he's the only tank and the enemy team is 4 assassins plus a tank because he just cant stay in the front long enough to survive or peel. He is awesome in a more balanced match up but in QM he just gets shit on.

His talent tree does need a rework, its boring as shit.
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>>169917896
What leaks? People are now assuming some karax guy cause of a gif blizzard posted on their own facebook.
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>>169918537
We got leaks and were somewhat certain of the order they release stuff.

They recently confirmed they may have little room to shuffle around hero releases since a lot of work needs to get put in, but they DID for the Lucio release.
Now they did again for Karax.

They mad about the leaks, bro.
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>>169917896
This.
Same thing in Overwatch; people knew for a long while they'll get Doomfist, so they pulled a literal who out of their asses just to fuck with people.
NOTHING we expect is gonna get released. All guesses are futile.
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>>169916359
I was wrong. Karax was actually teased in a promotional image.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20048821/celebrate-iem-katowice-at-a-european-community-gathering-27-02-2016
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>>169919127
Welp. Karax confirmed. Time to construct additional pylons.
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>>169919127
Hah, who would have thought?
I don't really follow esports news, no shit I didn't catch that one.
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>>169919332
No one catch it because they only posted that particular picture in the sc2 blog.
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>>169919332
more like nobody looks at SC2 to find clues to HotS heroes.
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>>169919127
>Pylons
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>>169919514
>>169919458
Cheeky cunts.
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>>169919127
Typical Blizzard, Im still hoping for at least a Stukov reveal with a release after this chunky protoss.
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>pick warrior
>constantly bodyblocked by own team
>constantly left after I join a fight
>get yelled at when i don't try to 2v2 a Morales and Zul'jin
>get yelled at when I have the most deaths because I kept trying to do objective while everyone did a 360 and went for camps

How am I supposed to read these people.
They dance around the edge of a fight for 40 seconds then decide to fuck off the moment I commit.
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>>169919854
>>constantly left after I join a fight
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>>169919854
Find people that aren't shit, keep playing with those.
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>>169919127
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WHO CARES ABOUT THESE NO NAME FAGGOT HEROES? Game should be renamed to "sidekicks of the storms"
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>>169920217
>sidekicks of the storm
>ask for stuff like stukov and kz

pottery
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>>169919127
>>169919795
So they release him a year after they showed his model? Shit, I guess we should get Stukov in three years if all we have for now is infested eggs
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>>169920449
Stukov will become the new Kel'thuzad.
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Okay his combat-getup looks pretty decent

Still something that wasn't worth hyping up. I don't mind obscure stuff every now and then, just don't hype it up like its something it isn't.
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>>169921629
You should see his walking animation in the story mode. He does this weird waddle/ skip hybrid thing.
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>>169921865
More like the retro mickey mouse skiddadle
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>>169922225
That's actually a pretty good way to describe it.
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>>169921629
Anon that's not battle equipment
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>>169919127
shit

god damn it

why
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>>169922681
eeeh whatever, you know what I mean
I guess thats how he's gonna ingame, not the variant without helmet
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>>169922681
Better than what Tassadar is wearing. Given, Tassadar has shields and can D-Shift.
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>tfw Dr. Boom never
>Stukov never
>Kel'Thuzad never

I don't want another fucking Protoss.
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>>169923005
Well I do, I love each of their kits.
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When?
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>>169922827
That's his co-op splash screen, everyone got battle poses for that.

In reality he's a fat protoss with a shitty beard, that is smaller than everyone else.Though if I remember right he didn't have any auto attacks in SC2 and had little machines following him around that attacked. That could be interesting.
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>>169919127
Heroes of the Storm: Legacy of the Void
what a shitty hero
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>>169923005
>starcraft heroes
I hate it.
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Servers died?
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>>169919127
Dr. octopus protoss is a pretty stupid reveal, hyping up literally nothing. Hopefully there is something else
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>>169920298
I don't though. I fucking hate those """(((heroes)))"""". I want my Kelthuzad and Fenix. Fuck, I'll even take Baal at this point.
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>>169923713
Those were both Sidekicks as well.
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>when you get stopped during Butcher's unstoppable for the first time
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I want Imperius, even though he only ever got mooked on, his design was pretty rad.
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>>169923918
This charge is bugged right now.
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>>169923918
>when you're playing The Butcher against at least one good player but their teammates are too scared and you just beat the Li-Ming, Valla or whatever to death practically 1v1 all game

almost feels bad desu

was playing a bunch of unranked games with friends and bumped into a few other premades doing the same
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>duo queue
>start losing
welp. rip mmr
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>>169858013
>paladin
>offensive support or warrior
>auras trait and/or aura mastery talents
>can only have 1 aura at once from multiple available/unlockeable(talent) options
>holy bolt, smite, blessed hammer, holy shield
>ults fist of the heavens, sacrifice, charge, or some aura gimmick

>barbarian
fuck I dont know where the fuck should I begin I'll just say shouts and leaps
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>>169923918
>tfw Butcher keeps charging me as Tassadar and I D-Shift away every time

When will they learn?
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>raynor is literally the easiest and most brain dead hero in the game
>his talent setup is the most obvious one out of every hero, just go pure auto attack in every row except 16 where there's no good auto attack buffs so just get the Q stun
>despite him being the easiest most braindead hero with the easiest and obvious talent setup, people still fuck it up
>THEY STILL PICK THE WRONG TALENTS
Can anyone explain this to me? How can people be so retarded? I don't play raynor much, he's strong but i just enjoy other people more. I usually only play him if i have a starcraft daily. When i do play him though i crush shit, i wreck the game. You just right click someone, buff yourself with W and watch them melt. No effort or skill required at all, could not be easier. Yet the vast majority of raynors i get on my team or i see on the enemy team pick the wrong talents. They'll get a couple of auto attack talents and then a bunch of shit Q talents or something stupid like that. It honestly blows my mind everytime i see it happen. It's just so fucking obvious what to pick, he's not even a "pick talents based on comp/map" type hero, you just go the same build 100% of the time.

It actually pisses me off seeing some retard who has the cowboy skin for him just pick nonsensical talents and then play like shit when i can play him and just right click something and be top damage and siege.
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>>169924118
>when you queue Butcher and end up vs a brightwing who saves its polymorph for you everytime or the enemy team isn't stupid and moves away from you when you brand them and you get melted constantly
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>>169923979
He's a pissed off angel with a spear, feat. Diablo™'s iconic© angelic© look©.

Not much you can fuck up with that, they all look pretty cool.
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>>169923805
>he thinks there are single antagonists and protagonists in the Blizzard games

how pleb are you? the aesthetic of these great stories is that there are no single pov heroes that are more important than one or the other. they all come with their own struggles and visions.
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>>169924226
If we do get a new paladin character, I want it to be Tirion, representing Ret.
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>>169924385
>Can anyone explain this to me? How can people be so retarded?
Because only retarded people pick Raynor, he is not bugged anymore anon he is useless.
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>>169924616
No I mean in the story. Those characters were legit nothing but sidekicks. Fenix had the honor of being the sidekick for multiple people.
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>>169924527
Brand needs a buff, even with the talent for movespeed people can still just walk away out of auto attack range.

I think brand needs the 20% movespeed built in by default, then make the talent increase healing to 100% (like it does now) and buff the movespeed from 20% to 40%.

That's my opinion anyway, i'm sick of branding people and i only get 1 hit off if i'm lucky cause they just walk away, especially since lucio is in everygame now and just makes the problem even worse.
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>>169925045
need my click to win button
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>>169923979
I kinda want Ithereal, honestly. It'd be neat to see how his literal "teleports behind you, unsheathes angelic runeblade" fighting style translates to a game.
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>>169924630
Was talking about diablo 2 paladin but
>Tirion, representing Ret.
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>>169924385
An easy to understand kit doesn't mean the champ is easy to play, you still have to position yourself properly and shit
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>>169917405
This. It'll be business as usual. MAYBE one small extra thing.
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>>169925343
Similar to Shadow Assault Zeratul and Horadric Reforging + Angelic Justice Tyrael?
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>>169924630
I'd want Maraad.
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Smoke Bomb is such a shitty crutch ultimate

Luckily Valeera still kinda sucks. Thank goodness, she's so annoying to deal with
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>>169925815
I haven't really played either of those all that much. Are they anything like this? https://youtu.be/_q2htBs_enA?t=1m21s
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>>169925885
That's definitely the right answer
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>>169925161
I don't think it's out the question. Butcher is not even that strong of a hero, he's good but nothing crazy. He doesn't even really become useful until you finish your quest which tends to take a while. I'm not complaining about branding someone then being stunned or they blink away or whatever. But it's annoying get ontop of someone and branding them (which requires you to be closer than melee range), then them being able to just move away from you without stunning you or blinking or anything, even when you hit them with a cleave they can still just walk away. Kind of stupid. Butcher is pretty damn squishy of a hero too, he needs that self heal.
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>>169926124
Valeera is for people who can't play Zeratul.
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>>169926330
But Valeera is harder than Zeratul
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>>169926124
Why does that look like it was drawn by a political cartoonist?

Someone label the various things with Horde/Alliance politics stuff.
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>>169824223
This guy right here

I've been doing this for a lot of my drafts and counter picking an off-tank. I go Arthas, Anub, and Dehaka almost every draft now
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Where the fuck is the Overmind?
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>>169926124
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>people unironically think the next hero is Kraxus and not Selendis

Laffin at u
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>>169926378
That is completely false. Valeera is easy, just cheapshot someone out of position, or cheapshot a squishy in a team fight and go to town, hope your team helps cause you'll barely kill the one guy you opened on.

Zeratul is harder to play, especially with timing your blinks in then back out in time, and he is a stronger assassin.
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>>169926673
Like the hivemind from WH40k
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>>169926835
you're gonna get probed
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>>169926906
Silver: the post
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>>169926254
Zeratul teleports to his AA targets with each attack for 4 seconds or so.
He also has blink on a 8 second CD. He can also blink toward the last target he attacked. He can also blink towards any target he has thrown his Spike on.
He's a high damage STEALTH assassin.

There's nothing more "nothing personnel" than this guy, gameplay wise.

Tyrael with the aforementioned talents can throw a sword and teleport to it every 6 seconds, while whacking stuff at the speed of sound. Fairly mobile, but not as teleporty as Zeratul. More angelic though.
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>>169927083
You do make an excellent point, desu.

>>169926673
>the hundreds if not thousands of potential Heroes
>another protoss
whee
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>>169927223
>>169927083
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>>169927553
That's not degenerate.

I want to fuck Li-Li up her pooper until she can't clench her sphincter quite right anymore, leading to her leaking a little bit if she moves excessively. I suggest diapers, and although she's a bit disgusted and abashed at the suggestion, she learns to appreciate their comfiness quite quickly.
What she doesn't know is that I fish every discarded diaper out of the trash and keep a personal archive of them, which I frequently just put on my head to experience the aroma from that one time we ate a Li-Li's Feet dish and she got constipated, or the aroma from that time when I laced her Tea with some laxatives.

-I- am degenerate. Don't group these fucks in with me, you're making light of my obsession here.
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>>169926313
lamb to the slaughter
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>>169926313
You know what Butcher has in Diablo 3?

Ancient Spear. An ability that works like Stitches' Hook, he will use it whenever you kite him a lot.

Imagine the Butcher with a hook instead of a charge.

Imagine Stitches with an engage and more damage from his AAs than from his pitiable farts.
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>>169928409
I always thought it was a little odd that the Butcher wasn't a Stitches skin.
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>>169928178
Well yeah but that's a pretty hefty cooldown. You can engage on someone every 10 seconds or so. Can only hit them with a post every minute and a half.
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>>169929167
Too slow and outscaled by jade, die to renolock and freeze mage
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>>169929167
because we're getting xanax next and you'll love it
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>>169929167
Wrong thread buddy.
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I have a support build for karazim but want a build for when I just want to dick around in qp and do damage with him. Know any?
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>>169928858
there's a reason it's on a long cooldown
while hitting a branded target, butcher is overpowered
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>>169930091
Iron Fists
Earth Ally
Blinding Speed
Whatever ult
Whatever at 13
Way of a 100 fists
I take SS at 20 but are all good imo so take whatever is best for the situation.

Thats my only Khara build and it tops heals most of the time.
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>when misha with kt support and morales heals holds beacon on her own against 4 for however long it takes to go from 20% to 100% on braxis
Is there ANYTHING she can't do?!
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Nazeebo is so comfy to play with. Even when you're not doing great, you're doing just fine. You can never suck with Naz.
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if you forgot>!!!!
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>>169932164
Move far away from Rexxar
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>>169932341
>fell behind in voodoo stacks
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>>169932352
So what is the new brawl?
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>>169932575
They're bffs, ofc they're always together
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>>169932712
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581818
Enjoy!
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>>169932712
mage wars!!!
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>>169932615
>game always ends before i can get 150 stacks

every time
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>>169932757
>>169932879
Oh it's the Nazeebo wars with some chumps scattered in again
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>>169932712
Shitty mage wars again. At least two games are enough.
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>>169932879
>Except Medivh
buncha pussies
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>>169932879
>Nazeebo

Have they at least disabled that one talent of his?
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im glad blizz reduced the QM time without sacrificing the quality of the matches
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I CAN'T wait to see all these fags who complain about Karax, to eat there opinions when they see How fun hes kit will be. It happens everytime, happened with greymane as well. First they hate the hero beacause its a "Nobody" than get fucked.
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>>169933620
yeah just like with artanis

right

haha fun heroes I love protoss
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>>169933294
which one?
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>>169933742
Its not about protoss its a bout popularity you faggot. My point was that heroes that not that popular get shittied on by 4chan, but they cant realise that blizzard wouldnt put a characters in the game instead of kheltuzad and all this $$$$ Characters if they wouldn't have a fun kit. And before you start "than where is kelthuzad? XDXD" you can see that they announced popular heroes, even if it is not your favourite, like varian. They cant put in everyone. But the game needs more diverse heroes (ability wise)
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>>169934001
>starcraft gazlowe
>instead of deathwing
>or kel'thuzad

game deserves to be dead desu
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>hunted memes
>never win the meme
>still won with a retarded diablo

its amazing what can happen if people starts to listen
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>>169934001
Uh, no, the real reason they put Karax into the game is promotion. Karax is LoV character AND a commander in coop missions in SC2. They are pushing and forcing coop missions as hell since 2015. It looks obvious that they think new players will know him better than Kel'thuzad. And they're right. As always, Blizzard is just aiming for the most brainless audience, that is to say casuals, and for their shekels. It has nothing to do with fun.

Doesn't mean Karax wont be fun to play though. All I'm saying is that your argument is flawed.
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>still no gifting

I know hots only exists to promote your other games but pls
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>>169921629
i'm tired of these pony tail aliens that i have no ideia who it is
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>>169902561
It's Rohana's tele. She can tele herself or an ally
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Though Karax is looking to be the one we're getting tomorrow, reminder that the anon who said Lucio will be the next hero a few days before Lucio's announcement stated that a Probe hero is in the works.

The Probe hero, so far, centers around "warping things onto the battlefield" and "looks to be shaping up to be a pretty crazy hero".

From the way he spoke about it, sounds like it's in the early stages. But yeah, this whole Karax thing reminded me of that, not sure how many of you remember or saw that guy's post.
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>>169935007
Dunno if I was blizz I would translate that concept to Karax, I doubt anyone want to play a probe.
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>>169935231
>I doubt anyone want to play a probe
I do, fucker.
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>>169935007
Wow, that would be SO MUCH better than shit Karax. I want that right now.

I don't believe it will happen though.
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>>169935307
You're a faget.
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>>169935231
Speak for yourself.

I detest most Starcraft stuff but I'd love a probe/drone Hero.
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I'm not upset or anything, but was I the one at fault for losing this match? Illidan kept blaming me when I told him to back off from forcing teamfights since we were like level 8 vs level 11. He went 'orly?' when I told him about the level differences.

Also, Xul is a pain in the ass to versus for the 2 lanes. I thought Azmo would be fine. At least I learnt from that.
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>>169935509
>8 deaths illidan
>uther
>fabuloso
>that meme comp vs a good comp

It was everyone fault.
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>>169935509
>8 Deaths
>XP: 1,718
The quintessential Illidan picture.
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>>169935231
Go fuck yourself tbqh familia.

I'd much rather a Probe than Karax--not memeing at all.
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>>169937005
>not memeing at all
>but I want a meme

really activate my almonds
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>>169935509
>sieging
>not blood
deserved to lose
>uther
instaloss

>>169937075
context, retard.
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>>169935625
>8 deaths illidan

I dont see anything wrong here desu
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>>169937210
t. illidan
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>>169937292
what? that reply doesn't even make sense
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>>169935509
>>169935658
>tfw no illidan version of pic related
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>Lucio's who use their boop practically on CD
>to knock enemy hero to safety
>for the third time
>they don't even realize they're doing it


As if Auriel wasn't enough.
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psh.. get hunted kiddo..
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>>169919127
I hope his trait is to get killed at the start of the match and be replaced with fenix
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>>169939070
>fenix
you mean resurrected as a lich?
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>>169932958
Jaina is the best pick in that brawl.
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>Valeeras Cloak causes Stitches hook not to hit

Is Bllizzard actively killing stitches at this point?
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>>169933620
I don't hate him because he's a nobody.
I hate him because's he's boring and bland as fuck and Starcraft has so many other nice characters left. Hell there's 4 important Protoss more interesting than him.
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>>169939748
He has been dead for a while now, Anon.
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>>169939748
>Pick cos for hook

kek you should win that game easily.
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>>169934438
>diablo solo frontline
>against greymane, sonya and varian
>surprised he doesn't do well
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>>169939070
>tfw we'll get talandar before fenix
>tfw if we get fenix it will robotshit and not dragoon
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I've never been a StarCraft fan, but I enjoy the Zerg characters the most.

Are there any notable Zerg characters that SHOULD be in HotS?
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>>169940328
Only Izsha and Stukov. Minor ones are the oldest of the primal zerg, the overmind, one of those giant larva things controlling a brood in sc1 and maybe individual zerg units. Can't think of any else named or important ones.

Zerglings, Ultralisks, Hydralisks, Mutalisks and Roaches are already in the game so that limits options.
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>>169940328
Stukov and the Overmind.
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>>169940328
The Overmind
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real match history when
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>>169940596
>Izsha
terrifying
especially because she has the same voice as Aigis from Persona 3 which doesn't fit at all
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>>169939819
It is just preferation. I like karax and his design and I really wanted him in the game. I always imagined him as pylon his trait and he can build buildings around his pylon
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>>169933004
I now want to play a 10-Medivh mage war.
It would take 4 hours because no one would die.
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>>169940596
Wow, what a faggot. The Overmind and Cerebrates are literally the most important zergs there are with Kerrigan. Only Zurvan is comparable to them in importance, but Zurvan is new to SC2 and not very charismatic, while the Overmind and Cerebrates are. Also, for your information, Cerebrates are not giant larvae, they're giant brains, unlike you apparently.
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>what should the master skin be
>I dunno just add more shit to it lol
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>>169942046
99% of the master skins.
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>>169942130
You probably mean 100%. That's the very concept of a master skin, after all.
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>>169942185
Dunno Guldan master skin is not like that and Valeera master skin as a wow armor.
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>>169887394
Polish must be one of the most disgusting written languages in the world.
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>>169942185
Not really. A few master skins are actual upgrades over the normal skin, or a flavored skin in theme of the character. Such as Valla or Valeera.

99% of master skins though are just ugly as fuck, just random shit thrown on that looks ridiculous, bulky, out of place, and just disgusting. Complete waste of gold.
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>>169942185
>he doesn't know about chen, muradin, etc and jaina master skins
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>>169942715
Chenn master skin is the same with the ugliest hat ever created.
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>>169942185
>vikings
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>>169935007
>When you were expecting probe and you got a another warcraft orc.
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>>169942185
>>169942130
You guys are sort of right, some of them flat out make alterations to their design, like covering up entire bodyparts and their face and whatnot. I mean yeah, you could sort of amake the argument it's just adding shit, but for example, I actually LOVE Leoric's face, and his master skin falt out covers it up. Or Sylvanas' Master covering her midriff and a lot of her arms with her shoulderpads and whatnot. It, to me, is an odd choice for what should be an "upgrade" to sort of remove small aspects of their default clothing and shit.
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>>169942942
>blizzard hints stukov with zerg eggs
>we get lucio
>blizzard hints protoss with that teaser
>release warcraft hero

I'd beleive it.
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>>169942609
Even though Tassadar's master skin is just extra shit, I'm quite partial to it for some reason.
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>>169943023
I fucking love blizzard some times.
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>>169942862
the hat looks good ingame and it changes his barrel ult you pleb
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>>169942609
>>169942715
>>169942904
Uh, I didn't mean 100% master skins are ugly. I meant that 100% master skins are just the base skin with something added on it. As you said yourself, "a flavored skin in theme of the character" or "an upgrade over the normal skin". Whether the result is good or bad is entirely a matter of taste. The fact, though, is that master skins are nothing else than an improved base skin, or, in other words, just a base skin with shit added on it. It 100% applies to your examples: Valla, Chen, Muradin, Jaina, Vikings...
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I just want poo poo pant marathon stitches skin so I can choose poo-poo and gtg fast.
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>>169943023
>They announce a new hero leveling system, tease a "Loot" tab
>We get clans
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>>169943157
>ttaktaktaktaktaktaktakTAKTAKTAKTAKTATKATAKTATKATKATKAKTKATKAKTKATKAKTKAKTAKTKAKTKATKAKTKATKTAKTAKTtaktaktaktaktaktaktakt

Goddamn asians need to chill the fuck out.
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>>169935509

the hatred of 10,000 years of virginity and unemployment.
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>>169943000
the problem is that the characters normal designs are already so iconic that its sort of what you would expect from a master skin to begin wtih and blizzard being blizzard adheres to the old "put BIGGER spikes on it" design philosophy
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>>169940328
Not really
There's some notable ones like stukov izsha and the overmind ( and the other cerebrates ) that had an actual personality but that's about it
They would just need to give some iconic ability like plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, infested terran's suicide bombing or structure infestation to someone of those

And also give ultralisk to zagara so she can be the hero that she's supposed to be
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>>169812435

Having played all sorts of Mobas, Hots is really fun and has a surprising amount of depth.

I'm enjoying it.
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>>169944254

Most frustrating part of this game is your team. If you can get over yhe fact that you will lose the game sometimes and its out of your control then it's great.
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>>169943672
how about westerners get good instead dumb white piggu
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>>169944676
Yeah, well, we've got bigger dicks, that's my only retort. I'm also a spic, so it's naturally greased and pre-lubed.
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>>169945747
>pre-lubed.
Are you gay?
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>>169945841
No man, because it's so damn greasy. Only con being when it's too hot outside I've essentially got a heated grill in my pants.
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>>169942942
Peon Hero when?
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Is there a channel for the event mount, or Vs. AI farm? Not having the best of luck in General.
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>>169942042
Blizzard legally can't use cerebrates anymore.
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>>169945995
They honestly should. If they're okay with putting in meme heroes from the beginning like Murky and ETC, then they should be okay with making a funny meme peon hero. They could put meme text on all the abilities like they do with Murky. Just shit like Q is a chop with an axe that says "for chopping trees, other thing are good too!" and his passive is something like "work work work" which gives him a speed boost whenever he does an axe attack or some shit.
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>>169946442
>Blizzard legally can't use cerebrates anymore.
>blizzard legally cant use grom anymore
>blizzard legally cant use furion anymore

IT KEEPS HAPPENING BRO
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>>169946105
lfg
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>>169946442
Yea, I know. It doesn't change the fact the Cerebrates are great.

>>169946531
what? Why can't they use Furion or Grom?
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>>169947140
>what? Why can't they use Furion or Grom?
It's a joke.
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>>169947140
Trademark stuff, that's why Furion is Malfurion now and Grom is Grommash, Grom was just a nickname but they cant use it.

>>169947208
No is not a joke.
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>>169947220
Fucking trademarks. It sounds absurd to be able to have the exclusive ownership a six-letters name. I want to make this world burn.
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>>169947220
Isn't "Furion" Malfurion in the WC3 campaign and just a DoTA meme?
I'd like to see a source for them not being able to use Grom too.
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>>169947447
Technically "Malfurion" appeared in Frozen Throne, and that's when "Furion" disappeared. So I guess there was a lawsuit between ROC and TFT.
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>>169947560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO6Pe_XoNoc
>Nigga what?
It's Malfurion
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>>169946442
WHAT

How? Why?

They could still be optional traits for the Overmind, like Kharazim's trait but more options.
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>>169947638
They may have changed it in a patch, but I know for sure it originally was just Furion.
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>>169947638
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>>169948047
People close to him would call him just furion, Tyrande would call him Mal
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>>169947638
>>169948447
Actually both of you are right, Furion was like a nickname but for legal reasons they can't use it anymore.
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>>169947638
Huh, I dunno what is the mission in this video, it doesn't look like the official campain; however, it for sure is from TFT, not ROC. Look at 41:46 for example: there's a rune. Runes were added with TFT. QED.
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>>169948520
>>169948482
It wasn't just a nickname in ROC. The screenshot here >>169948447 shows very clearly that it was his main, official name. I personally heard "Malfurion" for the first time ever in TFT and was very surprised, I remember that very well, as well as seeing his new stag mount.
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>>169948719
>>169947638
Indeed, it's a non-official, fan-made campain from TFT (after all, custom campains couldn't even exist in ROC).
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/malfurions-quest.249325/
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>>169949209
ANON BTFO
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>>169949209
>Discussion in 'Map Development' started by Turnro, Mar 12, 2014.
>2014
>2014
>2014
:^)
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>>169933905
I think it's the 75 Spell Resist in exchange for taking more damage from AAs one.
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>>169952176
Yes, however it's 50, not 75.

>>169933294
They have disabled it. There are only two options at level 13.
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>no proper buff/debuff tracker (used to be in beta, but was removed)
>can't click on other units and view their stats
>armor isn't tracked anywhere on the UI (only icons next to nameplates during temporary armor gains)
>collision size isn't measured or shown anywhere
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>>169945995
>not just one peon, it's 10 peons functioning as a single unit
>can make a building that give passive buffs to allies
>another building that spawns extra minions for 1 minute. extra minions grant no exp
>can also build a tower. Functions like the existing towers, but only temporary
>Passive occasionally has one break off to farm a tree that pops up for lumber. Lumber makes his buildings last longer.

Not sure what his ults would be tho.
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>>169952536
The circle under your character is collision size.
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>>169952393
>They have disabled it. There are only two options at level 13.
How nice of them to not point it out anywhere
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>>169953049

I meant more like as a value, so it's easier to compare heroes and understand the significance of how "big" a hero is.
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>>169952620
>Level 20 Talent makes buildings permanent
come on blizz
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>>169953658
They should just be permanent as default, just limit them to one or two
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>>169939689
>Jaina
>good in mage brawl
Please, she's one of the worst picks compared to Guldan, KT, Medivh, Chromie, etc.

More Jainas on the enemy team mean an easier win.
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FUN AND CUTE?
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Will tomorrow announcement save the game?
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>>169957341
nothing can save this game
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Now that Karax is all, but confirmed could this be the next spoiled list from Axoltol (who has since gone Anon since reddit found out about him?)

The only reason I think this one might be legit is because Axoltol always formats his posts very oddly and seems to know the names of OC characters (in this case Alaj as the D1 Mage) long before they're announced.
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>>169958776
>L. Vashj
>Tosh
>Imperius
Yes please.
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>>169812435
Is there a site for looking at player stats?
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>>169958776
I want to believe
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>>169958776
I hate all of those, so it'll probably be right.
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>>169957341
>announcing a nobody protoss
no
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>>169959460
It's linked in the OP.

hotslogs.com
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>>169947701
Some obscure company got all huffnpuff when Blizz 'stole' their idea for a hivemind race. It's why cerebrates are never mentioned or used anymore in SC2. Which really sucks because I imagine they would have made one a co-op commander at least if they could still use them.
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>>169958776
He spoiled Mengsk before so Im betting on him, stukov or a diablo from that list as next hero.

I thought the D1 Sorc became the Summoner in D2, its gonna be weird having him there.
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>>169958776
>Baal with a global ENOUGH

I can only get so hard anon
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>quick match
>they have valeera
>you have no healers, tanks, and every hero is squishy garbage

E P I C GAME MODE
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>>169958776
>Lei Shen
>Tosh
>Vashj
>Bael
>D1 Sorcerer
>Spider bitch

Dope
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>>169959949
>HOTS
>tease Stukov
>release Lucio

>OVERWATCH
>tease DOOMFIST
>release some OC robot

point is they Tease one thing and do something else so no point in guessing
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>>169958776
Shit, I stop caring about HotS for like three weeks and I miss leakanon saying some shit. Did he say anything else aside from this?

Also, I'm so very fond of the possibility of Leakanon being Browder, just because I fucking love the guy, and he'd be in a perfect spot to leak shit, all he needs to do is ask what's up and say some shit here, and everyone else is non the wiser, because WHY would Browder ever do that?
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>>169962823
"Stukov, Velen, Arcturus, D.Va, Aiden, Rock N Roll, Kel'Thuzad.

You /ready/?"
was his first post
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>>169963810
>Velen

I don't even like anything Alliance, and that's exciting. I'd love to see a Draenei in HotS.
>>
>Newish
>Not level cap, 31
>three of my allies are 40
>So are three enemies
>Our other ally is level 6
Why
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>>169964559
Because people make twink accounts to fuck around on without worrying about the MMR on their main account.
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>>169964620
Absolutely this, and also this game doesn't use any sort of "legit" matchmaking system. It's a bit more lax in it's rules.
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Why aren't you playing the King of Ottermode Abs this very moment?
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>>169964005
But they need cute Draenei, not wrinkly old faggots.
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>>169966518
whenever i played him i wish i was valla or tychus. not to mention i hate the fact that his axes has a fixed diameter
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>>169966518
Zul'jin and Gul'dan are my favorite Assassins. However, Zul'jin is so fucking easily countered it's hard to justify taking him in most cases.
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>>169933620

He better get the reclaimation thing that can be used as a gimmick against machines to temporarily take control of them, targets like gazlowes robot and his turrets or even sgt hammer.
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>>169967932
>wish I was tychus
Not anymore bruv
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>>169957341
Can the dead, be ressurrected?
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>>169966518
>predictable
>already has been massacred in w3 lore

You serious?
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>>169970184

But he has those abs though.
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>>169966518
>that back
>ottermode

might as well call him a faggot
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>>169969962
You should ask Auriel
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>>169948853
Mal is sort of like a title, but becomes an official part of the name. Actual languages irl do this, I forget what it's called
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>>169972001
Bullshit, his name was Malfurion when he was a babby
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Is there a stream to watch the announcement?
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>>169972294
It's supposed to be live on blizzheroes twitch
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>>169973624
what time west coast us?
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>>169973861
6pm cet
12am est
9am pst
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>>169887394
stream starts soon
announcement is in a little less than 6 hours >>169887394
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>>169973861
stream is up boi
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>>169942042
>starcraft 1
Never ever and you know it.
Tassadar was the exception.
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>live near the polish border
>think about going to HGC this weekend
>its in the bumfuck nowhere part of poland
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so qm is even more of a meme now since you get no support teams vs perfect ones and you're still forced to eat shit for 20 mins

amazing
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>>169975132
>manages to last 20 minutes with a shit comp vs a good comp
Two possibilities:
1. Their comp isn't that good and yourcomp isn't that shit.
2. Your enemies are FUCKING awful to not end games like that fast, meaning you lost to shitters, making you super shitters.
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>ANZ is on the same level as NA
Can't make this up
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>>169975535
Misfits is EU m80
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>>169975665
Misfits is winning hard. Khaldor said in scrims yesterday ANZ was even with NA.
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>>169975295
>towers of doom
>never get a tower nor a boss
>17 minutes

Really made me think anon
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>>169975714
I'm sceptic about their matchup vs dignitas, but they're fucked vs fnatic
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brawl idea:every hero starts at level 1 with all of their talents, including both ults
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When will pros stop picking Falstad?
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>>169975964
I disagree. I think Misfits is the strongest altough it obviously will be very though against the other europeans, especially Fnatic.
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>>169975983
when blizzard realizes how popular he is in tournaments and nerf him for no reason

Just like with tychus
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>>169975714
>misfits is winning
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>>169975983
you mean sylvanas.
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>>169976048
Watch the next 2 games. I'm from the future.
Kerri and Sylv are out of meta for a reason
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>>169976086
Pros don't pick Sylvanas usually. Misfits went for a pubstomp comp.
>>
even esport teams have shills nowadays
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>>169976243
Yes, shill for EU here.
>>
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>>169976281
how much do you get paid? do you have any specific future goals in mind for your career? how did you find yourself in this position?
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>>169958776
>>169963810

Damn, all this is missing is Blackthorne and Mekkatorque
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>>169976169
>usually
no this is one of her meme maps people won't drop. not pubstomp at all.
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>>169976382
& Malthael
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>>169976372
I'm doing it for >free and >fun.
I just like e-sports and the eu temas and bullying na is great.

>>169976387
She doesn't get picked anymore. No effective dmg, no real teamfight use except for her ult but that isn't enough. Kerri+Sylv is a super early game steamroll comp. They were going for a less than 10m win.
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>>169976464
load up some proxy and answer my questions when your manager isn't looking and i'm sure no one will ever know
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>>169976556
I-I'm home anon... Don't be silly.
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>>169976571
remember that i have cast the curse of corean humiliation upon you

if you do not repent the day of judgment, which is fast approaching, will fall upon you with its full wrath
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>>169976897
I do not scare. EU top 2 are better than Black right now and are even in reach of L5
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>>169976980
MVP black is shit tho, never recovered from losing Rich
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that Tychus position baka, Misfits way too cocky

>>169977049
Exactly and right now there isn't anybody else in kr except those 2
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new thread?
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>>169978250
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>>169978250
I think it's time to just put it out of its misery
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>>169979045
Nah, not with upcoming announcements
fuck it, nobody can complain when no one else steps up. Give me a sec
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>>169979493
>>169979493
>>169979493

NEW THREAD


fucking lol, that thumbnail
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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