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Old thread: >>169621553

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/

/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules: a.pomf.cat/jzmnvh.jpg)

/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password=/bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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Annalise is the best.
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WHIRLIGIG DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Things that piss you off after losing PVP?
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Join the League.
vermin > blood-cum
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>>169808825
Restocking vials and bullets.
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It seems like reddit will do a revival event. Also one month PS+ costs only 0,99€$, so you could get your twinks out and fuck some reddit fags over.

You could also show up for the fightclub on saturday.
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>>169808825
Visibly hitting the dude 3 times and no damage
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>>169808825
>Fags popping vials every hit and Respect/Beg for Life after a fight (bonus rage for gankers)
>Lead Elixir + Evelyn
>Invading and dying to oponent with few pixels of life few times in a row
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Hello /bbg/. It's been a while, I hope you're all going well
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>>169809739
All is well
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>>169808929
What chalice are the FC's most commonly in? the OP doc mentions 3 or so glyphs
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What makes Micolash such a meme? What is is about him that had such potential to be such a huge in-joke? Micolash is arguably the big bad of the game, head of Mensis, overseeing the ritual that caused the moon to come down and cause rhe beast problem to explode, responsible for kidnapping all those people and melting them down in Yahar'gul, Micolash is the game's main villain, really.

I think one part is the Kos/Kosm dichotomy, it's a perfect thing for a community to latch on to and take sides over for fun, and he introduces this bizarre, seemingly pointless divide. I think also it's that he's so tonally out of left field - a whooping, laughing, howling lunatic talking to himself wearing a cage on his head. And he's just a human, not a beast, or kin or undead Pthumerian, he's just a person.

I honestly love Micolash, he's a fucking great character.
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>>169809960
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>>169810139
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>169809960
Every saturday everyone goes full panic and spams "FC WHERE????????????????". Then some dude writes either Loran, Isz or Phtu and everyone goes there to slap each other.

>>169810139
Did you get that from some facebook BB group?
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>>169810139
Simple. I'm pretty sure he talks to you more than any other NPC. The fact that he endlessly repeats his lines and the VA obviously had a blast recording them makes the meme potential even higher. Then we see the Mensis Cage, which is bizarre even for this game and finally the obvious: Micolash Cage.
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>>169810287
Thanks, better blast through some chalices to get the Isz root then
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>>169810287
Anon, I MADE that facebook BB group and I post there every day
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>>169810158
what does no host blood bullets mean?
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Finally, FINALLY beat all the Old Hunters bosses. All that's left now is the Chalice Dungeons.

When I was like Lv70 I nope'd out of Lower Pthumeru because of the Bell Bitches summoning Spiders who took half my health away with every swipe. Any recommended level for the Depth 3, 4 and 5 dungeons? Should I go NG+, beat that and then do the Chalices?
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>>169810807
>no host blood bullets
You've read that wrong.
The host has to blood bullet in a FC because then you're roughly the same HP as your invader.
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>>169810807
No healing, no vials, rally is okay and if you get a message rated, allow the other person to heal.

If you are the host, as in if you summoned someone else into your world to PVP, hit up on the d-pad to make 5 blood bullets which will then lower your health to the amount theirs is lowered upon being summoned. Summoned opponents only have 70% of their health, making blood bullets removes 30% of yours, so it's fair.
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>>169810751
You bloodbulled before fighting and don't heal so that both fighters have the same health.

>>169810926
Just get mensis gems and power through that bullshit. There is a speedrun and a guide IN THE OP.
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>>169808929
how to you get it for .99?
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>>169812004
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/reward_game/playstationplus-1-month-membership/cid=IP9102-NPIA90006_01-PSPLUSSUBS1MX99C

Just change the en-gb to your country.
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>>169811004
>>169811026
Oh I see, I didn't know the one who joins has less hp
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>>169812192
I can't get it to work for US.
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>>169812659
>https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/reward_game/ps-plus-1-month-membership/cid=IP9101-NPIA90005_01-PLUS1MONTHPACKAG
>9,99$ for one month
>no discount

Burgers btfo holy shit
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>>169808889
>make a strength character
>want him to be a part of the church (fitting with the kirkhammer)
>join the league again

Same happend with my bloodtinge character.
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Okay /bbg/. Need your help on deciding whats next.

So far, I have 3 characters at BL110:
>STR/VIT, both greatswords
>BLD, guns only (also bloodletter)
>SKL/BLD, chicago & bowblade

I have 4 more planned:
>90 ARC broccoli with tonitrus
>STR/ARC wheel and boomhammer
>SKL/ARC BB and BoM
>Quality build for beast claws

Ive never done an arcane dominant build before, or really used the beast claws. Im unsure which build i should do next. I already have my stats worked out for each one and am aware which korean gems i need for each one.
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>>169814074
>chicago
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>>169814074
why 110?
i'd say do a arcane build, hunter tools are fun
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>>169814074
Arcane is funmode, top tier elemental damage, broccoli, hunter tools, it's great
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Why people claim that BB is linear? I mean correct me if I'm wrong but you can just kill CB or BSB, Amelia, go to Forbidden Woods and then go straight to Frontier, right? Thats, like, skipping two gravestones.
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>>169814074
BB and BoM are not good Skl/Arc weapons, no weapon is. Just stick to Skill with them. You could just use Claw on the Strength build. Str/Arc will probably be a bit easier than Pure Arc since you could slot Physical gems on your weapons most of the time. If you want insane Tool damage, go pure Arc. If you want more weapon options, go Str/Arc.
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>>169814596
Its just something I've stuck with since DeS. I dont really know why. I see level 100 as a good cap level but add an extra ten for a sort of bonus thing. I dont know my reasoning behind it really. Autism probably.

>>169814596
So pure arc then?
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>>169814946
Bloodborne is partially linear; It has linear progression in some places but is open-ended in other places. It is linear because Gascan>Amelia>Rom>TOR>Memeolash>Wet nurse are required and always in that same sequence. It is nonlinear because there are hundreds of different things that can be done in between those bosses.
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>>169815370
Oh, forgot Amelia>Shadows>Rom
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>>169815181
I understand that the BB and BoM dont synergise well with arcane, but my builds are roleplay based to a degree. Its a 50 skill 30 Arc build, im just squeezing a few more AR out of it while being able to use most of the hunter tools.

Tbh, this one is an experimental build anyway, ill probably end up scrapping it.
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>>169810139
-Pthumerians bow to Micolash
-In contact with aliens
-Possesses psychic-like abilities
-Controls nightmare with an iron but fair fist
-Owns castles & libraries globally
-Direct descendant of the ancient royal blood line
-Will bankroll the first cities in Loran (Cagegrad will be be the first city)
-Owns 99% of blood ministration sites in Yharnam
-First kin of the cosmos will in all likelihood be Micolash babies
-Said to have 215+ Arcane, such intelligence in Yharnam has only existed deep in the old labyrinth & Byrgenwerth
-Ancient Phtumerian scriptures tell of a man who will descend upon Yharnam and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented meme progress with him
-He owns cage R&D labs around the world
-You likely have eyes inside you right now
-Micolash is in regular communication with the Great ones Kos and Kosm, forwarding the word of the Great Ones to the Healing Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the Rom & Ebrietas (First meeting between the two in over 1000 years) and arranged Ebrietas’ first trip to Upper Cathedral Ward literally a few days later to the Altar of Dispair?
-He learned fluent Awoo in under a week
-Nation states entrust their meme reserves with him. There’s no memes in /bbg/, only the Nightmare of Mensis
-He is about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he is a benevolent memelord.
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What are good vit/end values to go with for the early game until like rom
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>>169815713
Vit; 30-35
End; mostly base, end is usually the last thing i level on most builds
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>>169815713
I usually pump vit to 20-25 before Rom.
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>>169814946
The game has a very clear progression path with branching areas that eventually loop back on each other. I don't think you can actually skip anything.

Central Yharnam leads to Cathedral Ward leads to Old Yharnam, then Hypogean Gaol (optional version of Yahar'gul) which leads back into Old Yharnam.
Also, Cathedral Ward Lecture Hall and Frontier (once you have the tonsil stone), also leads to Hemwick which leads to Cainhurst, dead end. Later on leads to Upper Cathedral Ward.

Woods lead back into Central Yharnam, then to Byrgenwerth which by way of Rom's fight leads back to the Cathedral Ward and Yahar'gul.

Yahar'gul leads back into Lecture Hall and then Mensis is its own area. Also provides key for UCW.

Point is, you have to go forward to go back. I believe Cainhurst and Mensis are the only dead ends which don't lead back somewhere else. It's a connected world for sure, but only half one way.
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>>169815713
20-30 Vit, base End-15. Late game reach 40-50 Vit, End will still be enough at base with a Stamina Rune. If you want more End, don't go over 20.
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Does untricked LHB have phantom range or was I just unlucky to get paired with someone with high latency? I'm willing to admit that I'm fairly new to bb pvp (but not souls in general) and it was pretty daunting to fight against.
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>>169815713
Pump VIT to 30 (bare minimum for any character, 50 preferable) before any other stat. Weapons dont scale well untill higher upgrade levels anyway so theres no point in leveling them early game anyway. Base END is fine but never go over 20, you have runes that do the same job.
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>>169814946
Because when you get over the confusing layouts, most areas are really just a straight line with occasional short side-paths. Even the oh-so-confusing lower Forbidden Woods are literally just a winding path you can follow if you have no interest in exploring.

Non-linear means you can do mandatory elements in an order of your choosing, but in Bloodborne you cannot.

You WILL start in Central Yharnam, you WILL then go to Cathedral Ward, then the only way to proceed is to go to the Forbiden Woods, then Byrgenwerth, then Yahar'gul, then Nightmare of Mensis and Mergo's Loft, done. You cannot skip any of these and every single other area is completely optional.
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>>169815963
A little bit I would say. Just dodge out, let them spam and try to parry. LHB babbies usually just spam the r1s.
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>>169815527
You could slap 20 Arc on a Skill build for Exe gloves, they won't be used for damage though. Just pressure, stagger, setups and what not. It's better to put 25 Str for BB. 25 Arc gets you Tiny Toni and 30 gets you Brew, both are only good at higher Arc. You can go 50/50 Skl/Arc without going over 120 though, you'll just have to live with base End and around 40 Vit which isn't bad.
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>>169815973
What the fuck are you smoking? Do you actually enjoy having every boss fight take fifteen minutes? The higher you pump your scaling stats, the more damage you do, the faster enemies die, the less Vit you need.

Granted, I don't claim to be the pro in this game, but so far I've always pushed my main attacking stat to 25 before I even touch Vitality (unless I play a Noble Scion, fuck that 7 base Vit) and I never felt I was too fragile.
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>>169816147
Makes sense, Thanks. I think ill leave this build to last or untill I've thought it through a bit more.
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>>169816476
Not him but BB Pellets and Papers are enough to compensate for low damage stats. I always pump Vit to 20-30 before damage stats without any problem with damage as long as I upgrade and gem my weapons.
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>>169816476
I start pumping str/skl/arc after i hit 30 vit. Thats usually around cathedral ward/hemwick for me. Then i add onto vit as i need it up to 50. Sorry if i wasnt clear, but chill out a bit mayn.
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>>169817421
Sorry, I had just remembered that "Vitality is not a meme" idiot who had 99 Vit and everything else on starting values

>>169816851
May be just my opinion, but if you're using Pellets to up your damage with the downside being that you take more damage meanwhile, then you might as well just keep the Pellet uneaten and the Vit stat untouched.
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>>169817976
Eh the risk isn't major when most things won't do much damage early game. Plus Pellets are to kill bosses quick, you'll do enough without them.
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>>169817976
>Sorry, I had just remembered that "Vitality is not a meme" idiot who had 99 Vit and everything else on starting values

wot u say about me faget
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>>169818671
END>your faggotry
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>>169818802
become absolutely rekt
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Anyone up for helping me shred defiled doggo?
The Wheel i want is just beyond this flaming faggot and i just cant get him past the 30% mark without getting one-shot by some shit.
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>>169819052
Yeah, what's the password?
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>>169819210
bbgdog, look for Executioner Hawk
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>>169819303
SRRCing
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>>169819425
Holy fuck, thanks dude you're great.
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Just started playing. Does the Bath Messenger in the Hunter's Dream sell infinite amounts of Blood Vials? Or just 20?
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>>169820094
Infinite, naturally.
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>>169820059
Cheers m8
>>169820094
It's infinite, so there's no need to worry about a limited stock.
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>>169820094
20 means you have twenty blood vials currently.
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>>169818671
>>169818802
Have you two ever had a duel? If so, who won and why wasnt it recorded?
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it's funny how most of the people I SRRC with don't even know what SRRC is, and they just assume I am on the exact same floor of the exact same dungeon as them ringing my small resonant bell all day
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>>169820094
Infinite, the price'll go up as you keep playing. you can only carry 20 vials&bullets at a time without runes to increase that amount. the rest goes to the storage box
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Anyone up for frontier Amy?
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>>169820175
>>169820198
>>169820209
>>169820267
Ah, ok then. Thanks.
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>>169820283
Pass?
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>wanna do a cane playthrough
>never used it before
>took me forever to kill the cleric beast because it does 0 damage

Am I gonna regret this? Does it scale well or should I just switch weapons
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>>169820472
/bbg/
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>>169820534
with slashes, right?
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>>169820534
iirc the '/' doesnt work
or has /bbg/ lied to me
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>>169820493
Cane is for style. Its good for chipping away at multiple enemies at once but yeah... Overall its pretty shit.
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>>169820678
>>169820698
No slashes.
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>>169820740
The only thing really that impressive is how wide reaching the transformed mode is, despite not reaching that far forwards.
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>>169820493
You're doing it wrong.
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>>169820248
I bare no ill will towards the original meme master, but we did co-op once, I believe
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>>169821047
>tfw you will never see endurance man and vitality man face off
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>>169820493
It has a bit of a rougher start than the other starters but it's not too bad. Pretty fun weapon imo, does well in both PvE and PvP.
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why do you guys still play this 2 year old game and how is the general still alive? the game can be beaten in an afternoon and pvp has always been dead because of the dumb bell maiden thing. I don't understand
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>>169820793
I've been sitting at the lamp for a while now I guess I missed out.
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>accidentally kill simon on my first playthrough
>have to kill him now for his weapon
I'll never get this niggas dialogue

also killing amelia took forever without levelling my damage stats
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>>169821416
great post
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>>169821416
Ask /ddg/ or /ksg/.
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>>169821416
Because we somehow have to justify buying an otherwise $400 paperweight.
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>>169821646
Naw i'm still waiting
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>>169821416
it's just a prank haha
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>>169821416
Dungeons, Co-op and PvP aren't dead as long as you ring in the right areas. Even Demon's and Dark Souls on PS3 still has a bit of activity.
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>>169821779
I guess I'm underleveled or something? Are there even BL restrictions with a pass? It's weird I've been sitting by the lamp for solid 15 minutes.
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>>169821993
There isn't BL restrictions for pass. You sure your password is just "bbg" and its set to worldwide?
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>>169822052
I'll try and reload.
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>>169821416
Because it's fun
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>>169810139
He's the BANE of Bloodborne
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>>169822052
>>169822326
I dunno what I'm doing wrong here, mate, everything seems to be set right and it's not like there are a lot lamps here.
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>>169821657
nvm I think I was accidentally using my unupgraded saw spear
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>>169824616
Stop spamming images or at least dump some new stuff.
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Is 15 skill too little for a Chikage build or will I be spending most of my time in 2h mode?
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>>169824943
untricked is shit, tricked is godly. most of your pve will be l1 and tr1
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>>169824921
Have you considered making an imgur album like the one in the OP just for Bloodborne memes?
Its what i tried to tell lucy when he kept dumping BB webms into /dsg/, put them somewhere together and put the link either in the OP or in a Pastebin
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>>169825142
>>169824921
Then just upload that shit to a mega and drop a link. https://mega.nz/#F!B5EnHJTQ!wdRHKFlVct9GBU5hKWZ3Aw

I'm a tripfag too so I can reply for some ebin circlejerk tripfag /vg/ action ekks dee
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>>169825308
let me touch your trip :^)

anyway, thats it from me, might do a imgur thing like >>169825220 suggested.

I love you all very much :^) sometimes you post the memes and sometimes the memes post you
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cant delete my posts apparently. oh well, im outski
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>>169825838
ebin
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Is BL 38 too low for Frontier invasions? Everyone seem to deal a buttload of damage to me and I dish out around 100 damage per hit even though my weapon is +6 and has +18% gems.
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>>169814074
My most played builds:
1. 99 ARC
2. STR/ARC
3. SKL

9999. SKL/BLT
99999999999. STR
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>>169826783
I usually run BL58 with Mensis gems.
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>>169826783
Yes, invasion ranges are wide and most people are around 50-70 at Frontier. Both Mergo's and Frontier usually has 80-120 PvPers. If you wanted to Twink go to Burgertown or Woods, maybe DLC areas too.
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>>169823158
>>169822052
Add some numbers, ive accidentally connected to a random using bbg as a password.
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>>169826938
>>169827043
Yeah, I should've guessed. Did manage to score some kills, but people are just straight stronger and better since it probably haven't even been a month since I started playing.
>If you wanted to Twink
I dunno, I just wanted to have some fun with a more or less equally leveled and equipped opponent. I tried ringing at the woods a couple of times but found noone.
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>>169827363
If you want duels you'll wanna get better gems and level higher, most times opponents will be using CD gems at 80-120. Burgertown is always active for Twinks, lots of ganks to run into and it won't be hard to find the Host due to how small the area is. You won't really find duels as Twink though.
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Fucking Defiled Amygdala AAAAAA
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>>169821416
Because if this game dies, I die.
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>>169825070
Is untricked Chikage really as bad as everyone says? I never upgraded one, but when I tried it the untricked moveset was pretty much the same of the katanas from DeS and DaS.
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>>169830672
it isnt actively bad, it just doesnt have anything going for it over any other weapon, low damage, stagger, speed, range
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>amygdalan arm
>great one's own arm
>shit for str/arc or arc
>whirlygig
>some technological mumbo-jumbo
>4th best arc scaling in the game
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>>169830672
It's not great, not worth investing points into untricked mode when tricked is superior in every way. Plus you aren't really locked out of guns when tricked since it's so easy to untrick.
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>>169808825
Imagine being the Gherman in that dream and having to be all like "damn, the doll, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both my boss form and the real me." when all he really wants to do is hunt another beast in Yharnam. Like seriously imagine having to be Gherman and not only sit in his wheelchair while the doll flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her crackmarks and porcelain skin, and just sit there, night after night, hunt after hunt, while she perfected that bow. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude all the hunters tell her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, THE DOLL LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of white- hairs and hunters and later alleged Vilebloods for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Cathedral Ward. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the paleblood that's breaking out on her chipped forehead as she tilts it confusedly at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to be cursed to sit there and revel in her "plain (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with hunters in the previous months. And then the Moon Presence calls for another hunt, and you know you could kill every single person in this dream before the great ones could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gherman. You're not going to lose your other leg over this. Just bear it. Hide your eyes and bear it.
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>>169831419
Split damage can be a bitch
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>>169831487
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>>169831487
NOOOOO! NOT MY DOLL
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>tfw almost beating Orphan first ever try
holy shit holy shit holy shit

Extremely tense and exciting. Would have been able to make a claim very few have been able to do. Nowhere as near as hard as Maria, either. Also, any tips for general Street Shark combat? I can cheese the one above the well, but having to fight the one within fair and square is tough. Already planning on using shaman bones once the other joins the fray.
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Someone come help me speedrun story loran before i go to bed plz.

Pass is: hoont
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>>169832761
Ailing or Lower?
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>>169832819
Ailing. Ive just realised im missing one ritual blood 4 for the right. Where can i get one again?
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Gonna replay this game soon. How do I best do a Bloodtinge run?
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>>169833146
If you've already picked all the Ritual Blood 4 loot, you can try farming the Snatcher at the pre-boss bonus area of Lower Pthumeru layer 3. It's right before the ladder.
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>>169833293
Thanks, ill give that guy a try. Ill post again when im ringing in Ailing loran. Still need to grab all the loot from the treasure rooms though, just wanna get it done as quick as possible.
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>>169833192
Upgrade strength and Saw Cleaver until you can get Chikage
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>>169833192
pick any starter, get saw spear, go 14/15 and go through to hemwick as normal, by the time you get the cainhurst summon you should be at 20vit 14/15 and the rest in blt so you can hit hard with bone ashed repeating pistol. kill logarius (i did this 2nd try with the above stats and a +5 spear and +6 repeater) sell crown knight set to affford chikage, get it to +7 with dlc items, kill simon for bow, do dlc and get bloddletter. then go full korean and farm offshapes for 15 hours
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Anyone else chuckle when you first saw how tiny the Blood Letter was? Imaging Bador killing people with it untransformed maked me laugh.
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>>169833762
It's just a normal mace
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>>169833293
>>169833503
Nvm, i found one in a chest behind a secret wall. Ringing now.

If you know the layout then ill follow you, i get lost pretty easy in these dungeons despite doing them a million times. Also, ignore trash mobs if possible.
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>>169833825
I mean I only ever saw its transformed version before I got the DLC. I didn't realize it looked like that.
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>>169833943
Sure, m8.
I only 100% know the layout for layer 1, though. It has been a while since I've been through the story chalices again.
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>>169833678
why would you upgrade str on a blt build?
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>>169834127
Gatling of course
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>>169834213
ive never felt like gatling is worth the investment, the damage is pretty low compared to bowblade and you will be two handing all of your weapons most of the time
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>>169834127
Gatling, Bloodletter, Cannons Loch Shield
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>>169834528
Bloodtinge builds don't have much variety compared to all the other builds, in my opinion not going str/blt is a bit of a waste since you don't get to use three of the most unique blt weapons (gatling, cannon, church cannon) and the untricked bloodletter (not a very strong weapon, but you can do nice combo with it + the tricked form).
Pure blt is fine if you just want to one-shot everything with the Chikage, but boring otherwise.
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Eileen is my favorite NPC. She's just a heroic character with no strings attached.
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>>169835220
sauce?
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Where do you get the 21% bloodtinge gem from the story mode?
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>>169835220
Is it bad i saved this?

>sex-starved-beast
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>>169834892
>>169834552
this is my tried and true blt build, great damage, can use most hunter tools, and has good survivability, going for cannon would have to remove one of these aspects
>>169836016
iirc its under the brain of mensis
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>>169836016
Mergo's past the Winter Lanterns. You could also farm them for Phys droplets, they'll fit in any shape.
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>>169836118
>>169836135
Ah thanks I couldn't remember
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>>169836135
Wait so winter lanterns are the best enemy to farm phys droplets?
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Can you kill Eileen while she's on the steps and get the badge? I really don't want to get unzipped on by Crowsteel
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>>169836332
yes, but no rune for you
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>>169836297
Main game yes. DLC Lanterns are better by a bit (19% vs 22.3%). Best Phys gems will always be in FRC CD's.
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>>169836421
good enough
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>>169836451
I got the DLC and i just got to the fishing hamlet so i guess time to farm. All of them in the fishing hamlet or just a specific section?
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>>169836332
you can, but you dont get hoontah rune and you should feel bad about doing it. he drops blood rapture 3 which is great for frc chalices
>>169836297
yup, they drop cursed phys droplets, 17%frontier, 19%mensis, 22%dlc
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>>169836534
There's only 2, they both can drop 22.3% Phys droplets along with Adepts and other stuff that can go a bit higher.
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>>169836332
Nigga just charged R2 with the tricked hunter axe
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Big thanks Segalt. Really appreciate it. Sorry if i wasnt really pulling my weight, im saving my chunks for the lost variants of my weapons. Goodnight!
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>make it quick with a single shot
>"You can't go on like this..."
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>>169837192
No worries, man. You did perfectly fine.
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>>169836118
You'll use your bullets for gunspam, imo arc is not worth it on blt.
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>>169835220
Oh, good hunter...
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>>169837364
im not a gunspam shitter, i use bullets for the bow, augur parries when tricked, and for the choir bell to cancel bloodletter transform
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>>169837512
is there more?
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Consider the following:

I am aiming for the lost variants of the Bowblade and Chicago, both with the 31% BSB gems, as my main weapons.

But i also want to use the Rakuyo occasionally (3x 27.2%) because im a massive Maria fag.

Do i put my last 10 levels in Bloodtinge or Skill? I cant decide!
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>>169835220
Fucking sauce.
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>>169838252
Unfortunately
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>>169838252
https://exhentai.org/g/1003083/e4afa6659d/
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>>169838281
>20 vit
remake build with 10 and go 40/50
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>>169838456
>vit
You mean END m8. In which case no because im using specific runes and need to be able to 2 charged R2s with tricked bowblade and still dodge out.

Answer question plz.
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>>169835220
Still waiting in source.
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>>169838781
40/20/14/40/45/8 gets you 117 with good guns and skill, plus lets you have bloodletter
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>>169838335
oh damn
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>>169838281
>31% BSB gems
What?
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>>169839154
how do i get past the sad panda? i forot
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>>169838281
BSB doesn't drop 31.5% Circles, it's the Shotgun Watchers you're gonna want to farm. If you really wanna use Rakuyo, put it into Skill. Would've been better if you went with either 15/50 or 50/50 Skilltinge. If you're willing to drop Rakuyo, put it into Blt.
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you

cant

parry

Winter

Lanterns

you cant. Its impossible. i shoot them at the START of their animation, in the MIDDLE of their animation and right as they are about to get it to me. Fuck From and fuck this game for making the most MADDENINGLY inconsistent parry windows
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>>169836118
That's another good build that adds good variety to Bloodtinge, but I already have a 25str/50arc build with all the tools so I'd rather use the big guns instead.
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>>169839397
you

can

git

gud
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>>169839397
??? the parry window on lanterns is massive, it starts as soon as the hands start to move inwards and lasts a few frames after the grab misses
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>>169835220
FUCK I DIDNT SAVE IT
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>>169839505
Why is Yamamura naked? And why is Henryk smoking?
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>>169839856
ill start a doll thread on aco
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>>169839867
They're playing mah-jong, a gambling game
Yamamura is probably naked because he lost a bet
Henryk is smoking because he's a rugged old man
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>>169839312
it's a shitty process and I don't remember much about it since I did it years ago

it had something to do with making a account for their shitty web game and playing it to get verified or some shit
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>>169840049
Strip mah-jong does sound like something the League would do. Ultimate loser has to eat whatever Madaras' snake vomits later that night. And yeah, I could see Henryk smoking.
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>>169839856
>>169840007
>>>/aco/1228246
mods pls be kind it just a link and i want more lewds
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>>169840007
not that anon, but thanks, i got it now.
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>>169840007
Time to fucking fap.
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anybody wanna blow through Defiled Chalice Dungeon with me?

pw is shaka
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>>169841242
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should I stop at 98 on my first character?

i'm interested in trying to go through the CDs and get platinum, but stopping that early seems like it could make it all a lot harder.
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>>169842338
if you have a good build then 98 is fine, all of my frc spelunk builds are 98, but if you didnt really have a build in mind when you started or just put points all over the place then go as high as you want because the build wouldnt have been good for pvp/coop anyway
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>>169842338
You could easily do CD's at that level, even lower without a problem as long as you're min/maxxed. 98 is mainly for PvP purposes, so if you don't care about that then go higher. If your stats are fucked then going higher will help.
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>>169841765
Still ringing?
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>>169842675

Idk, my online is all fucked up. Does that "Your membership is about to expire, there is a problem with your billing into" message only appear when you need to renew your PS+?
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>>169843086
I guess it you are sent a notification whenever PS+ is about to expire, if you have auto-renew disabled.
Might want to double check the card you're using to pay for the subscription.
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>>169842618
>>169842623
I'm doing a HMS build and I think I did good on my stats

I just beat wet nurse and was about to start CDs since I haven't done them at all yet.
also not sure what gems to use, i've heard nourishing a lot but i have no idea where to get them.
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>>169843526

got it figured out. Ringing at Layer 1 bell
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>>169843741
Your stats are good, you could choose to stay at 98. Nourishings are farmed once you've finished the story dungeons and have created an FRC root. Once you have, you're gonna want to search glyphs online (stuff in the OP) so you can create them and farm enemies/bosses for gems.

Nourishing Radials are from Gargoyles/Rom, Triangles and Wanings are from Amygdala. Most choose Gargoyles over Rom since it's easier to farm and not much weaker. As for farming Amy, you've got the right stats to gem up a Fire Stake Driver to 3-shot Amy. You're gonna need to farm 2 Cold Abyssals and a 27.2% Fire Triangle or Hotdog Abyssal for it though. Or just spam gloves and jump cheese.
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>>169831419
A severed baby arm is a severed baby arm.
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>i really dislike dark souls 3
>beat it two times and have like 5 failed characters i didnt play for more than a few hours
>my friend really likes dark souls 3
>advises i give it another shot
>k, sure, why not, been meaning to anyway seeing as how so many people enjoy it. maybe i just got bad luck with it
>been playing a lot of bloodborne lately, decide to just equip a weapon with quickstepping as its special ability and play it like a shitty version of bloodborne, mostly because of how so many of the lategame enemies are fast and strong as shit and it seems like the best strategy
>1 hour in i realize "wow this game really IS just a shitty version of bloodborne."
>remove disc
>play bloodborne instead
i dont have any fucking words for this.
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>randomly invade at cainhurst and have this happen
https://youtu.be/fDui3uvTByc
fucking died laughing
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>>169845096
At least you didn't preorder it digitally 8 hours before it was released like my retard ass did
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>>169846976
Everything in that video is supreme shittery
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Thanks for the help Segalt. Hopefully I at least somewhat contributed
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Give it to me straight...am I a shit?
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>>169847710
Yeah, I pre-ordered it months prior. At least I got a keychain out of the deal.
Last time I pre-order anything.
>>169848103
What weapons are you using? Full character sheet would be useful.
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>>169848063
It was great fun, anon. Don't worry about it.
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Arc-fag here, how to I beat the Kosm?
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>>169848235
Moonlight sword, saw cleaver, and whirligig mostly
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Jrsus christ thesr fish trolls guys. All i want is thr rakujo man
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How's Beast Cutter as a late/end-game ARC weapon? The perpetual D in arcane scaling puts me off a bit, but it's got a fun moveset and I'm assuming that arcane scaling gems will offset that.
Can basically anything work as an ARC weapon assuming you have the right gems?
>>169848484
Well, you could do to move a few points from END into VIT. I'm also not sure what you need the 25 ARC for unless you just want a few hunter tools to use. It's not as bad as my first build.
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>>169848919
Thanks man

Was hoping to use a few tools since this is my first play through and I want to do an arc build next
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I wish BB would come to pc just so dataminers could explain how the fuck the hyper armor system works in this game
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>>169849093
As a general rule for builds, 20 END is usually fine, and you'll want to hit 50 VIT for the health hardcap. Shit will wreck you in NG+ or multiplayer.
Depending on your weapon you may not even need the 20 END, but I find that it's nice to have so that you can get a few extra dodges in a tight situation.
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>it an Ebrietas Lasers Still Hit Me Even Though Im Behind Her episode

Time to put this shit game away for the night
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Does anyone have a loot table for the Winter Lanterns in the Hamlet?
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>>169848919
Any converted weapon is good since Cold Abyssals exist, which increase Arc scaling. Cuttah is fun and worth converting.
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>want to do cosplay run of yamamura, henryk, and younger madaras with two of my friends
>decide to be yamamura cause I'm a giant fucking weaboo
>have to beat logarius AND ludwig just to get my stuff
Does anyone have any sick tips for low level ludwig/logarius?
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>>169848103
Your stats are pretty fucked but still salvageable without going over 120. Something like 40/24/50/15/9/25 at 113 is decent. Any spare points should either go into Vit or Skill.
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>>169850493
thanks man

im so happy i didnt completely fuck the pooch
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>>169850153
Thanks. I really didn't pay any mind to chalice dungeons or gems aside from physical +27s in my first few runs, but now that I'm doing an ARC build and kinda need to do that to get crazy strong, I'm having more of an open mind to it. All this gem shit can get confusing as fuck tho.
>>169850469
Summon a friend for Ludwig and have one of you use the Pizza Cutter L2 on him, especially useful in phase 2. His AI can't handle it and you can cancel him out of his charge attacks 2-4 times in a single L2 hold, depending on your stamina.
This breaks the horse.
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>>169850469
Assuming you're gonna stick to around 14 Skill for Chicago, you can use a +9 Saw for both of them. BB Pellets and Papers will be enough to carry you. If you need more damage, dip into a few CD's, Lower Pthumeru 2nd Layer "Lumpy" guarding the lever drops cursed Radials going up to 20.6%. Mainly pump Vit, should be around 30 for both. Logi is easy to parry, Ludwig will need to be learned.
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What is Chalice Ebrietas' problem?

Her charge kills me in one shot her lazy swipes can kill me in one shot and even when I dodge her charge, if I'm not far enough it will still kill me in one go.

I know she drops a Blood Rock and I want it, what do I do?
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>>169808929
im down was planning on getting an arc build done next
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>>169851351
That all sounds more like a "you" problem, buddy.
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>>169851351
Fight unlocked. It makes it way easier to dodge that charge. As for the swipes, you just have to get the timing down. They're easy to dodge, and you can just sprint out of range even. Bait the headslams and then punish.
Also, how low is your VIT that you get oneshot by her swipes? Could be the counterhit if you're panic dodging, but still.
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>>169849867
Nigga ll you have to do is a pick a direction and run and they can't hit you

You wouldn't believe how many bosses can be foiled by just running in one direction around them
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>>169851351
Bait head slams, watch out for the charge and swipes. With 40 Vit you should be able to survive the charge, maybe even with a bit less. The Rock isn't guaranteed, it's a small chance of dropping. You could also hug the right side (her left). She'll keep moving so you'll wanna move with her while getting a few hits in. Sometimes it's better to take the charge without evading since running and dodging will make you take more damage if it hits.
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>>169849905
>2 winter lanterns

;_; why the blood rock in the opposite room was not this hard to get wtf
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FOR THE LOVE OF KOSM WHAT THE FUCK DO THE HAMLET LANTERNS DROP I NEED NOURISHING GEMS NOW
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>>169852309
For me

Silver bullets and some ok gems
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>>169852309
Phys normally, you won't get any Nourishings from them. Get to spelunking m8
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geez, no offense given, but those stats are all over the place, can you explain your reasoning for that spread? i run almost exclusively BL160 builds, but i keep them a little more "consistent", like i have a STR/ARC, a STR/BT, a SKL/BT, a SKL/ARC, and a STR/SKL
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>>169851759
It probably is a Me problem.

My own mistakes getting hit by her swipes? Fine, I'll hold that but her charge is still nuts.

>>169851832
20 Vit and 20 End for this spear run, I had 25 Vit for a previous Saw Cleaver run.
I prefer to stay under 100 overall but after this I'm debating on bumping it up to 25.

>Fight unlocked
So treat her like Loran Darkbeast?
That's going to be weird to get used to but I'll try it.

Most of the specific swipes I think I've got the timing on it's just one specific one she does (repeatedly) while you're hanging around her back.

>>169852060
>The Rock isn't guaranteed.
Oh. well then fuck this I'll just buy one at the Shop, get the second one at the Village and save her and Loran Darkbeast for last.

Back to Laurence I go.
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>>169854761
>160
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>>169854825
>Most of the specific swipes I think I've got the timing on it's just one specific one she does (repeatedly) while you're hanging around her back.
I've honestly found her far more difficult if you attempt to stick to her sides. By staying in front of her, you can whack away at her head and eventually she'll fall over for a visceral attack.
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>>169854761
>i run almost exclusively BL160 builds
for what purpose
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>>169854761
>160
You have some explaining to do
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>>169848392
With converted weapons. Fire works best, and bolt is okay, but he's resistant to arc damage.
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>>169854825
>20 Vit
No shit you're getting one-shotted. You're gonna want at least 40, which is more than possible without going over 100.
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>>169849905
afaik the drop table is the same for all lanterns, pebbles, qsb, phys droplets in almost equal amounts
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>>169852309
why would you think they dropped nourishing gems in the first place?
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>>169854953
>>169855269
>>169855290
>copy paste reddit post for the free (yous)
BASED REDDIT (don't ask me why I was on there)
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>>169855079
I'll try front next time.
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If you're looking to go spelunking in a comfy Loran, you might try upbrb4tw. Every floor is quite large, most of the rooms are dark and none of them are unreasonably difficult. Nice atmosphere and a metric fuckton of ritual mats.
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which build is the objective best for pve
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>>169857257
arc
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>>169857257
ARC
R
C
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>by some twist of fate I keep invading the ladder at cainhurst while im just doing random sinister ringing on my run to the boss
>every match me and the host/phantoms get into these retarded ladder duels where we are trying to plunge eachother or dick around gaining ground
>this time i just beast roared the host down as soon as he climbed up and plunged him to death
somebody help me ive become the biggest faggot in cainhurst right now and cant stop
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>>169857257
arcane based builds, because you can take advantage of elemental weaknesses with a big arsenal of dedicated boss killers and other weapons
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>>169857257
Either Arc or 50/50 Quality.
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>>169857257
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>>169840049
this
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>>169857318
>>169857320
>>169857409
Which weapons do I use for arcane builds
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>>169857608
all of them, with 15 skill, 25 str and 50 arc you can use any weapon you want with the right gems
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>>169857608
Anything you can convert and Parasite. Tonitrus, Boomhammer, Holy Moonlight Sword and Wheel too if you go Str/Arc.
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>>169857608
any weapon that isn't burial blade, blade of mercy, beast claws, or amygdalan arm, as long as you have a little STR and a little SKL to equip them
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>>169857608
You can use basically any weapon assuming you get the gems for it in chalice dungeons, scaling be damned.
Ludwig's is a good if you want to spend a few points early game to use it because it has very high ARC scaling.
Faggots will try to shit on you for using a 'meme weapon' (in a game that only had like 14 weapons at launch) but who cares.
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>>169857704
Not every weapon, stuff like Chicago, Bowblade and BoM will either be shit or unusable on that build. You only need 14 Skill too if you ignore Rakuyo, which requires 20.
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>>169857816
>>169857749
>>169857728
>>169857704
If I meet the requirements for ludwigs holy blade can I just put the rest into arcane?
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>>169858213
Yes
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>>169858213
Yeah, ARC is all that matters, but you actually need to get blood gems that will convert the damage from physical into ARC, fire, or bolt.
Where do you get those? Check the blood gem guides in the OP.
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>>169858331
>>169858291
thanks
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>>169858437
>falling for the Arc meme
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>>169858437
np m8 have fun playing the only badass mage type in the series except for maybe pyro in das3
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>>169858437
Good luck m8, Arc builds will require spending lots of time in CD's for them gems. Follow the Arc guide in the OP if you don't know about it already, it'll cover most of the basics.
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>>169858927
The problem with them is they require a lot more grinding, harder to obtain gems, and don't offer benefits to make up for it. None of the tools offer enough to surpass a pure str build, which is also much easier and faster to farm for.
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>>169838335
my fucking dick
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>>169838335
i like you
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It's well-established what both sides think of the Cainhursts, Executioners, and League, but what's the take on the HoH? A bunch of lunatics dressing like crows, or the tired and harried babysitters of the hunters to make sure they don't hurt themselves or each other too much?
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>finally beat Gherman on my beast-claws character
>sit down and enjoy a moment of victory
>Forgot I consumed three cords this time
>cutscene
>Wiggly tentacle thing tries to give my character a blowjob again
>Dick too strong, triggers the bossfight
>Nope.avi
>TFW gunning down the moon presence with a minigun, while constantly stabbing myself for bullets and spamming blood vials
I think the only more satisfying way to beat that thing is to use the Kos Parasite's transformed L2 to beat him.

Blogposting aside, I hadn't put anything into BLT so I didn't expect to get more than a few comedic moments out of it, not to shred his health bar. Does BMA affect the entire time the fire button is held down or just the first bullet?
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>>169862764
BMA is useless on the Gat, only applies to the first bullet. Scaling isn't great either, so it won't be a huge difference from 5 to 50 Blt.
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Can't i just parry the shit out of Orphan of the Kosm like i did with Maria. Wanna get this dlc done with
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>>169837512
>not bloomers
She had one job.
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>>169862979
Yes. Runes that give health/bullets are buffed for the first phase too.
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>run two FRCs with my Beckoning Bell ringing every layer
>Only summon three different players
Feels bad, man.

It is midnight on a workday, though.
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>>169860775
This has no right to be as arousing as it is.
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I have 80.1 million blood echoes on me right now
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>>169863483
I don't understand why it's as sexy as it is, it's just the two of them exchanging blood. Maybe it's the look on their faces, the hand holding, I don't know. Considering the context behind the two of them, this sort of thing would never happen
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>>169863285
I just run blood rupture and spam bloodbullets.
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what does it mean when you set the multiplayer matching regions to "local " instead of "worldwide"? How big are the local regions, I mean? Like is all of Japan one big local region? And all of the east coast / west coast USA (or maybe the whole of the USA?)

Or are the regions much smaller?
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>>169815609
where i can read more about this bloodborne theories, this is the fucking game of the decade
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Doin' a kind of fucked up playthrough atm. Clinic lamp only, you can only fast travel if you smoke weed or complete one dungeon. I finally killed BLB w some inisght I got some from Iosefka bc I was getting frustrated so I haven't done any chalices yet.

On top of that I'm not putting any points in VIT, STR, or SKILL, and minimal in endurance. Blades of Mercy and Hunter's shotgun atm (though I'm so tempted to go touch the altar, I already beat her). If anyone wants to help I guess Im going to hcl
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>>169866431
where do I subscribe to your blog
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do both versions of ludwigs holy blade scale of arcane?
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>>169870585
If you convert it, then yes.
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>>169870585
-There are three versions of every weapon
-Every version of every weapon is only differentiated by the gem slot shapes; scaling, damage, etc. is identical
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>>169872120
Gems and stats?
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>>169866431
>not taking a hit each time you acquire insight
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>>169857728
Isn't Boon Hammer better on str builds?
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>>169872764
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>>169866431
>>169873167
Dude
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>>169862937
>it won't be a huge difference from 5 to 50 Blt
Not true at all
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What's the drop rate for those 21.5% ATK gems from Amygdala for HMS?

I want to make a beam-focused HMS character but don't want to go insane while farming.
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>>169874493
I don't know, but it took me an hour and a half to farm for two good nourishings.
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>>169874493
Depends on your luck, really. Sometimes you'll get a good abyssal immediately, but other times you'll be farming for a while.
If you're not picky over the secondary effect or the curse, not too long.
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>>169874882
>>169879276
Okay, that sounds manageable. Thank you.
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>>169879403
It's still a pain in the ass, don't get me wrong
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Wake up pussies
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>>169882335
Can't
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is the forest before hemwick charnel lane the best place to farm bullets?
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>>169883041
Good spot, but the Byrgenwerth lecture hall isn't bad either
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Guys what should I upgrade next?

I have 30 skill, 30 vit, 13 endurance. Strength, arcane or blood?

Im using the saw blade. Its my first blind playthrough. Killed the moon spider thingy
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What are the best kind of gems for amy arm? Best imprints?
Also any general tips on that weapon? Gimmicks, combos?
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>>169887123
I would imaging just ATK up, since it would boost both of the damage types. Also, the charged tricked R2 looks really cool and could probably catch someone if they try to attack without knowing about the swipes.
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>>169887123
Heavy abyssals, full str, use tricked mode against multiple enemies and opponents in pvp, untricked for single enemies and bosses with a lot of poise
Keep pressing R2 in tricked mode for an extended charge attack
Regula tricked R2 can be cancelled
Absolutely ignore the arcane scaling, forget about nourishing and atk gems
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>>169884872
45/50 vitality is a must
If you're going for skill, get it to 50
End is good at 13-20
str can be ignored
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>>169887473
Why is vit that high a must??
My next boss is The One Reborn, and so far 30 vig has gotten me far enough

Am I gonna get one shotted later on?
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>>169887635
Yes, specifically in chalice dungeons and by the DLC bosses
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Isnt chalice dungeons only rng bosses, of earlier defeated ones? Im not really interessted in that. I just wanna beat every "unique boss"

Do you have any recommedations for other skill weapons? I have only used the saw spear currently. I kinda wanna try Ludwigs Holy blade
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>>169887324
>ATK up
>>169887409
>Heavy abyssals, full str
getting mixed signals here lads
Also I've noticed that untricked has some more or less solid hyperarmour at least more so than other weapons, is that true or my eyes are just playing tricks on me? Might be useful in peeveepee as well?
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>>169887904
Meant for
>>169887698
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>>169887926
To be fair I've never actually used Amy Arm, I was just going on the fact that the ARC isn't terrible like BB or BoM, but those R2s are legit as fuck my man
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>>169887926
Amygdalan Arm will always have shit arcane scaling no matter how much you focus you put on it, but the str scaling is pretty good by itself, so you might as well maximize that.
The untricked form does have some hyper armor, but its range is so short you will never catch anyone with it. The tricked form on the other hand is hard to predict and has great R2s and dash attacks, so use that in pvp.

>>169887904
Some dungeons count as "story" dungeons, they're pre-made and feature all the unique dungeon bosses (except for two) + some that you met earlier. At the end of the story dungeons there's a final boss that's fun as fuck to fight, very unique. Beating it gives you a trophy too if you're going for the plat.
There are also randomized dungeons, but those are just for fun + farming optimal equipment.
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>>169887904
There's a bunch of unique chalice bosses. Yharnam, bloodletting beast, hot dog, the undead giants, pthumerian descendant, pthumerian elder. The abhorrent beast is almost unique.
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Can anyone give me some pointers on how to defeat the Bloodletting Beast? The one in Lower Pthumeru, I mean.

I've beaten the whole game and DLC, but that piece of shit just won't die. The whole standing-between-the-legs thing doesn't work so well when it either moves away like a spastic squirrel or grabs me and then squeezes half my health out of me.
Should I just try to out-damage it with a serrated fire weapon or is there another trick I should know other than practice and git gud?
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>>169889654
Be a fag and use poison knives.
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>>169889654
Never lock on and stick to its right leg.
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>>169888227
Not him but I've been using both Amy arm and Kirkhammer, using the tricked arm when I need range and the Kirkhammer when I need big burst damage. It's been working pretty well, would recommend.
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>>169889620
You forgot the Merciless Watchers ;)
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>>169889752
>>169889761
Thanks, I'll try both
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>>169890138
They're a shitty boss, I'd rather have the rolling fat guy
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>>169890856
Of course they're a shit boss. To me, they're the epitome of how fucking lazy these chalice dungeons get. Some of the bosses are cool, but then you have a whole dungeon of generic mooks and generic rooms and for a boss you get YET MORE generic mooks.
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>>169892001
They should have used Shadow of Yharnam instead
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>>169872120
Fuck the beckoner just standing there motionless at the end
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>>169892267
Who are also reused as random mooks in lower chalice dungeons (and Nightmare of Mensis), so that wouldn't have changed a thing
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>>169892369
The difference in quality would be huge.
Besides, they're in Mensis and in the dungeons because it fits thematically.
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>>169892353
>watching a boss you struggled with for hours get fucking obliterated with a Visceral clearly doesn't deserve any gawking
come on, man. If you need to beckon help for fucking Gascoigne, then you're obviously new as fuck and seeing THAT should shock you
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>>169892369
>Who are also reused as random mooks in lower chalice dungeons

I have NEVER met a Shadow of Yharnam in as a mob in dungeons, what the fuck?
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>>169892551
Root only
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>>169892509
No, I agree, I just thought it looked funny is all, I'd love to know what was going though the beckoner's head when you killed Gascan in three hits
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>>169892606
Guess I'll have to keep rolling chalices then, damn, never knew they showed up
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So I drew yamamura from memory and then pulled up the concept art
r8
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Anyone wanna help a lonely ayy beat up that jerk Orphan? I'm ringing by the lamp with the pass "space". Level 65.
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>>169894321
lel
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>>169894459
Yo still need a hand, anon?
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>>169894321
>green
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>>169895265
Yeah! I'll be right here if you wanna help.
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>>169895367
I'll be there ASAP, booting up right now, lighthouse hut lamp yeah?
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>>169895415
Yep, see you there!
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>>169895415
Thank you! I really appreciate your help buddy.
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>>169895942
Glad to help! I wasn't sure if it was your first time or not, so I tried to tell you to hit the black smoke on Kos' corpse. I always point just in case.
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Is the difference between 25 and 50 arc a big deal for the HMS?

Stat Calculators imply it's only 45 damage, but online sources say it's a big deal. I've only used the thing on Arc builds for the lasers, and I wanted a 98-100 that used it.
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Would I be a faggot if I were to ring for merciless watchers? I've already defeated them several times on higher layers although this is still my 1st playthrough.
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>>169897854
You are a faggot and will forever be one.
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Fuck me, lads, I think Living Failures might have the best theme in the game
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>>169897854
You would be a faggot regatdless of ringing or not.
But you'd probably waste insight and you don't want to a beastly idiot, right?
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>>169895324
I mean the armor piece is green ingame so I thought it was on the art
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ded
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>>169901995
So find a way to bring it back
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cmon /bbg/ don't be ded

Pls don't bully me for using the untricked chikage, I was new to it
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So, /bbg/, tell me:

>Favorite boss
>Favorite piece of music
>favorite weapon
>favorite piece of armor
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>>169902967
No bullying for the untricked Chikage, it's not nearly as awful as people say (for PvE), but, why the hell do you play in German? The German translation is fucking awful and it's literally two clicks through the menus and you're playing in glorious English.

Ernsthaft, die Übersetzung ist der letzte Dreck
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>>169901995
>>169902967
Middle of the week is always slow, lads, calm yourselves.
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>>169903037
>boss
Gascoigne, hands down. Such a fun fight, gorgeous arena, great introduction to the speed and aggression of the game, great character.

>music
It's a toss up between Gascoigne's theme and Living Failures. Gascan's gets me pumped, Failures has that build to the cosmic crescendo. Gscoigne is my favourite base game, Failures my favourite DLC.

>weapon
I love my trusty Axe, but the Amy Arm is just so much fun, I wish I got to use it more.

>armour
Yahar'gul garb. Perfect tattered spooky apparel. Looks good as a rotten Executioner garb, looks good on Arc characters, just great stuff.
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>>169903037
>Gehrman. Great atmosphere, not too hard, not too easy, just fun
>Hail the Nightmare
>Rakuyo, Saw Cleaver and Burial Blade
>Bone Ash Gauntlets
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>>169902967
im so bored
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>>169903265
Mein Englisch ist nicht das beste, aber ich werds mal ausprobieren
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>>169904757
>not improving your english with videogames

You're doing it wrong.
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>>169904887
this
I may be socially retarded but at least I know my 英語
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>>169903037
Vicar Amelia, because until that point you had the goal of getting to the church. Only to find out what you might have only suspected before: the church is the REASON people are becoming beasts.

Whatever the music is when you have enough insight and come to the hunter's dream. Sounds like a fixed version of that song the Winter Lanterns sing, which would make them looking like the plain doll really poignant.

Logarius wheel because it's ridiculous but also wonderfully clunky, Beast Claws because of the implications of willingly becoming a beast, and Rifle Spear because it's just a fun weapon.

Choir set, because it looks super comfy.
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>>169903037
>Boss
Difficult one, i kinda want to say Cleric Beast. That music and opening are amazing especially for a boss so early in the game
>Music
Ludwig's theme, the phase transition being the best part
>Weapon
HLMS for the trick/untrick attacks. The Saw twins get a mention for their beatiful and brutal simplicity
>Armor
Male Yarnham Hunter Chestpiece
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So when do I get my plat theme code? I got an email congratulating me on it but no code in sight

Was it a timed thing?
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Hey /bbg/ would anyone mind helping me with Laurence?
Ringing at the Hunter's Nightmare lamp, password: league
(due warning I just re-played DS2 so my dodge-timings are fucked)
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>>169906550
Might take a few days to come in, you got the congrats email so you've probably set your account to receive emails from Sony
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>>169906843
I'm level 40 but I will come and die in first few seconds of the fight.
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>>169906843
On my way famygdala
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>>169906843
W-why wont it let me find you, it's been 5 minutes already. ;_;
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What is the "Maria Pizza Girl" thing I keep hearing about?
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>>169907480
PUFFY
VULVA
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>>169907650
Okay, yes, you have good taste. But I really want to know the mystery behind this phrase.
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>>169907480
Pizza Cutter, it wrecks hunters and especially her.
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>>169907438
>>169907061
Thank you very much!
Whichever one of you that was
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>>169907931
Not me, I'm still standing at the lamp searching like a retard.
I don't know why won't it work, I've got the pass and global search on.
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>>169907931
Glad to help m8, that went pretty painlessly!
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>>169907760
The Whirligig Saw resembles a giant pizza cutter, the tricked L2 attack absolutely wrecks NPC hunter and humanoid enemies, Maria is sort of seen as an overly edgy character with bloodfire waves out of her katana weapon and shit, so it's kind of funny to see such a seriously presented character beaten so easily with what's kind of a funny looking weapon.

/bbg/ has many subtle layers of memery.
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Holy shit, I hate this fucking undead giant
It sucked a shitload when I was fighting him with a rifle spear, but now I'm fighting him with weapons that are slow as shit and I can get ONE hit in between his attacks
So it takes fucking forever
This isn't fun this just sucks
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>>169903037
Gehrman, the general aesthetic is really nice, especially with the arena.

I never noticed any of the themes because my TV is kind of quiet and I'm usually concentrating alot, but Darkbeasts is really nice.

Either Amy Arm or Stake driver since they both have the best R2s in the game

Bucket
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Can anyone help me with Logarius, BL 54, pw: bbg22
Ringing at the fog
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>>169910171
On my way dude
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>>169908779
>>169907889
Ah, alright. Yeah Maria was so laughably edgy I felt good about shoving my augur down her throat for most of the fight. Fucking anime bullshit blood magic.
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>>169910335
Thanks
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>>169909891
Which one are you fighting?
Also yeah Undead Giant has to be my least favourite boss in the game.
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>>169910758
>3rd bogdanoff

Grant me sides

Glad to helo m8
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>Bullying NG BSB with +7 Flamesprayer on ARC build
Get fucked you toxic cunt
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>>169910775
Ball and chain one
BL 60, 30 VIT and 42 STR
I've beaten him on two other characters, but I was really overleveled on my rifle spear character and my Arc character could just spam spells and not have to deal with his bullshit

I'll probably just summon for it, all I want are the beast claws anyway
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Why is Djura attacking me? I came from Paarl's lamp and came immediately to him?
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>>169912062
He can tell you're a faggot.
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>>169911472
Ball and Chain is the most bullshit one yeah, followed by fist, with cannon being the easiest.
Even if you try to double dodge the ball and the chain it seems like you'll get hit most of the time anyways by the absurd range of the chains
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>>169912062
Did you injure any enemies in any way on the way there? Deal any damage at all?
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>>169912150
Well I was going to stab him in the back after getting his emote but he's not supposed to know that.

>>169912190
Nope I ran past the 3 fire-averse shits and came up the ladder to the right that comes out the shortcut near his ladder.
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>>169908097
It's probably on my end.
Thank you for the attempt, and I'm sorry for wasting your time like that.
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>>169912289
Nah, it happened to me yesterday with someone else as well.
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>>169912241
What about the Scourge Beasts right outside the big door from the Graveyard?
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>>169912403
I didn't attack anything at all after the lamp but I did go back to the dream after killing Paarl. Was I not supposed to do that?
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>>169912241
Could be that one of the beasts somewhere in the area accidentally walked into a fire pit, or fell off a ledge and took a pixel of damage.
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BB2 when?
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>>169912470
That might have been it. Otherwise, an enemy somewhere might have taken a sliver of damage, which counts on your part.
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>>169912163
>Run to end of the arena
>Tricked Bowblade R2
>Run to the other end of the arena
>Tricked Bowblade R2
rinse and repeat until he's dead. If you're sure about your timing you can poke his zyst weakspot with a melee hit for massive damage
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>Madaras is a Hungarian surname

Learn something new every day
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>>169913328
Doesn't the name Henryk have Polish roots?
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>>169913563
Iosefka is polish too.
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>>169913196
>Pure STR build
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>>169913328
>>169913563
>>169913785
I think Yharnam is generally situated somewhere in Eastern not-Europe. Also explains Gascoigne being a foreigner.
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>>1169914810
Not!Eastern Europe: now with British accents!
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>>169914810
And Gascoigne is an Irish surname, I believe
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>>169914981
British accents just sound right also Japanese racism.

>>169915059
Gascoigne is a French name, originating in the Gascony region of France. It's a name found a lot in England, too, way moreso than Ireland. There was one Irish family with the Gascoigne name (tehcnically Oliver-Gascoigne) that's somewhat prominent, but they got that name via inheritance rather than lineage and were also land-owning Anglo-Irish. Also, Gascoigne doesn't resemble an Irish name in any way, t. Irish person.
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>>169915521
I actually didn't know that about the surname. Interesting.
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I got my PS4 today with Bloodborne and it's really fun.

Although I'm not sure on stat distribution.I started with toasty origins and so far equalized VIT, END STR and SKI since they all seem useful for the beginning.
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>>169915521
Thank you for your insight.
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>>169915739
END shouldn't be raised past 15 or maybe 20.
VIT, STR, and SKL are all important, but most weapons lean towards either STR or SKL. 50/25 or 25/50 are good endgoals. 40-50 is a good goal for VIT. Arc and BLT aren't that useful if you're not running a dedicated build for them, so probably just ignore them on this run.
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>BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP
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>>169915668
>>169915776
Gascoigne's voice actor is Irish, though his accent isn't very strong. I think he voiced some fuck in DS2 where his accent was much stronger, the ladder fucker.
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>>169916160
Stop
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>>169916034
Thanks for your advice.
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>>169916245
Laddersmith Giligan!
Love that dude.
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>>169916297
Not him, but your first time round, don't worry too much about stats, just get a feel for the game, next time round you'll know what to expect so you can build for stuff. Arc can be a stat because it allows access to the games spells, some of which have good basic utility functions for crowd control or knocking back enemies.
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>>169916271
>PRRRRRFFFFFFFFF
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>>169916620
>Oh no! I'm inexplicably inflating again!
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>>169916271
>he doesn't sexualize watchers
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>>169916441
Yeah, this is true. Not only that, but level limits are only self imposed, to make matchmaking easier. The only true level cap is all stats at 99.
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>>169916620
This? Stop it too
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>>169916995
>sexualizing watchers
>not sexualizing gascoigne's daughter getting pumped with pig semen
Your insight is low.
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>>169903037
>boss
Ludwig and Maria. Looking forward to these two every time.
>music
Living Failures theme
>weapon
Burial Blade
>armor
I change my preference in armor often, truth be told. Liking Gehrman's clothes and Tomb Prospector Garb right now
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>>169903037
>Favorite boss
Orphan of Kos
>Favorite piece of music
Orphan of Kos phase 1
>favorite weapon
Burial Blade
>favorite piece of armor
Yharnam Hunter Set
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How come I can't summon any of the two NPCs for the Shadows fight?
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>>169918826
Do you have the Impurity rune equipped?
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>>169919006
Ah damn I forgot. Guess I'm soloing them again
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>>169918826
You're not in the League
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Can someone help me with chalice ebby? Pass is bbg.
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>>169919350
Sure, I'm SRRCing in
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Anyone have that blt build from the Lucifer guy?
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>>169919442
Thanks my dude
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>>169920025
Cheers m8
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>>169919995
Only he would. Why would you need it? Blt is fairly easy to make; minimum stats for weapons, sufficient Vit and End, dump everything else in Blt
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>>169919995
It's shit, why would you want it? Military Vet, 14/15/50 Str/Skl/Blt and you're good. 28/30 Str for big guns if you plan on going above 98.
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I'm about to give it to Rom and I haven't accepted any blood from Arianna so she's still stuck at that part of the dialogue for me. That's not an issue for later on with her child, right?
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>>169919995
>Pick Noble Scion
>put levels into Vit until your health bar doesn't look like you're trudging through a cursed dungeon, then dump into Blt and a bit into either Str or Skl, depending on whether you want the Bloodletter/Gatling or Chikage/Bowblade
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>>169921591
Shouldn't be, no
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>>169921591
Nope. And even if it were, it's entirely possible to get three cords without killing Arianna (unless you want the Tier 2 Oedon Writhe rune, in which case you need to waste a potential cord)
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>>169920338
>>169921042
I was just unsure if it was worth it leveling str and skl beyond the minimum required for the chikage and bloodletter.
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>>169921846
Not worth it at all. Get the minimum. You would only boost Str to wield the larger firearms.
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>>169921846
Well, if you want to use the Gatling or the Cannon, you're gonna need a fucking huge Str stat, but Chicago/Bloodletter only need bare minimum, you'll never use their untricked states anyway
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>>169921846
It really isnt unless you're running BL120+ for some weird reason.
15 Skl is for the bowblade
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>>169921846
For Chikage no, Bloodletter alone not really but the added Str for big guns is okay. If you don't wanna use em, then stick to 14/15 Str/Skl.
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>>169922257
Very fast bug man frenzying at incredible hihg speed
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>>169921938
>>169921987
>>169921992
>>169922030
I assume that the untricked bowblade scales off skill, making it only useful for the arrows?
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>>169922257
>ami-go
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>>169922398
For pure Blt yes, it's great at cheesiness most bosses.
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>>169922257
Why does your character look so short
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>>169922626
*cheesing
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>>169922692
the only size slider I moved was the head size one
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>want to listen to the comfy fire effects in the Hunter's Dream
>constant weeping from bloodstains absolutely fucking everywhere
>it's just chicagos and bloodletters just running around dying
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>>169922692
Charred hunter legs are baggy and kinda broad.
The cloaked version of the hunter set also makes you look shorter.
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>>169923642
>it's just chicagos and bloodletters just running around dying

theyre bloodstians are EVERYWHERE
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>>169923642
Is it me or wailing becomes louder when on high insight?
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>>169923856
Wheels too
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>>169922558
Would it be possible to make a BB edit of this? Maybe a Mensis scholar or a hunter?
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>>169808586
posting my shitty meme
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>>169924015
:^)
im sorry i could actually do something, lets hope some drawfag picks up the idea
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>>169924790
Hopefully the same guy who made this work of art.
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>>169924015
ill do my best anon

im not the guy that made this >>169924902
but ill try
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>>169924024
I've always wondered, is OoK's weapon supposed to be a lump of placenta with a blade attached to it? And why the fuck cant we get it?
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>>169925379
It's your effort that matters. If I need to pay in memes, have one of my favorites
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>>169925674
thanks that will do it on its way
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>>169925609
Yep, it's pretty much just a placenta or some other freakish alien organ. We can't get it because it would be too icky.
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>>169925674
>ywn be a ritekeeper
>you will never smoke dank milkweed and hang around the ladder while occasionally blasting newfags off the ladder with firebolts
y live
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>>169926996
I swear they're smoking weed down there. The rest of the Pthumerians are on meth or something
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>>169926996
>ywn go on midnight raids chasing around newfags for shits and giggles with that screeching bastard Andrew WK
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>>169927252
Yharnamites literally drink blood instead of alcohol because it's more intoxicating. Shit's straight up addictive.
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>>169927383
They don't drink it, they inject it in the right leg
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so, all those fuckaz on the chalice dungeons are pthumerians or just the "pthumerian [something]" bosses? i always interpreted the regular mobs as slaves, likely from different races judging by their appearence.
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>>169927537
They're all pthumerians, only pthumerians and pthumerian descendants become ghosts and zombies after death
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>>169925674
its gonna take me a little while so if this thread caps it'll be in the next general
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>>169927702
What about vilecucks then?
And Logarius?
And Yahar'gul snatchers?
And those weird anti-gravity zombies during micolash fight?
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>>169927765
Thank you!
>>169927845
Vilecucks are still human, not pure Pthumerian. Cainhursts are moreover bastardized Pthumerians, still limited by being human.
Logarius, I have no idea what he is.
The Snatchers, something seems to be off. Their proportions don't correlate with height:weight ratios normally seen in Pthumerians.
The zombies, I always assumed those to be a Mensis-exclusive creation.
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>>169927845
>What about vilecucks then?
As I said, pthumerian descendants also become ghosts and zombies.
>And Logarius?
Possessed by Onryo.
>And Yahar'gul snatchers?
Pthumerians, also found in the dungeons.
>And those weird anti-gravity zombies during micolash fight?
Marionettes, you can even see the strings. They're not really alive.
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>>169927482
Is this why people thought beast blood crept up the right leg, why the Old Hunter Trousers had a bound right leg? Related somehow?
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>>169928025
>Their proportions don't correlate with height:weight ratios normally seen in Pthumerians
>long arms
>grayish skin
>very tall
>very skinny
>dressed in robes
They're 200% pthumerians, like everyone else in the Mensis ritual except for Micolash and the hunters. They even have bell maidens which are explicitly referred to as pthumerians.
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>>169927845
vilebloods = humans mutated by the "corrupt blood"
logarius = superzombie, possibly mutated and controlled by the crown
yahar'gul lads = undead pthumerians or humans mutated by byrgenworth
and those meat puppets with micolash are nightmare creatures
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>>169927482
Regardless, they consume it
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>>169928186
I get that they're Pthumerians, I don't doubt that. Pthumerians of their size are usually obese, like the Watchers. It's probably nothing, though
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>>169928130
I might be wrong, but doesn't undead giant also have a huge lump on one of his legs that, when popped, deals massive damage to him?
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>>169928268
Don't forget HMPH, mad ones and dungeon warriors, they're also very tall and not fat
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Don't pthumerians and the regular "undead" have a different kind of resistances though?
Its fairly straightforward with kin and beasts, but I have no idea when it comes to zombies.
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>>169928503
All the undead have the same set of resistances except for watchers
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>Doing chalice stoned
>go into an extra room after a boss
>forget i need to go back and spend 10 minutes looking for where to go
Don't do the weed
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>>169928298
Their lumps can be in different areas

HOT HEADCANON INCOMING

I think undead giants are constructs of flesh that are animated by a certain type of blood, and that blood lives and reproduces in their pimple. The real 'life' of an undead is their blood, not their flesh- imagine the blood like a parasitic slime that's driving a meat puppet.

When it comes to undead I think they're all cases of
1. Great One Meddling-
ghosts, nightmare shit. Cainhurst, the Hunter's Nightmare, possibly Chalices. The reason they're weak to arcane is because arcane is the wrath of a Great One, so arcane basically is you getting a Great One to do something you don't quite understand but is better at opposing other Great One shenanigans than your mortal shit

2. They're not actually 'undead' they're just 'alive' solely due to blood that has made them so fucking hard to kill that they don't even need organs- Darkbeasts, zombie peasants, etc.

That's why bleeding things out is so important- you need to drain them of blood/destroy their blood-producing bone marrow or they'll survive anything.
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Why do I seem so over-leveled? I'm at Shadow of Yharnam right now and level 55(plus I'm carrying like 80k blood echoes). Most posts I've seen are below 50 or even 40. I haven't really done any grinding and only did the one story chalice so far. I did start over after I accidentally fucked up the Eileen quest and lost a LOT fewer blood echoes since I had a better feel for the game. Is that all it is?
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>>169929046
I dunno, I always think I'm fucking up when I'm stoned but manage to do just fine. Don't even get lost(for the most part). Also there are times when everything seems to slow down i.e. bullet time and I laugh at how telegraphed everything feels. Pretty schweet, mang.

then again sometimes everything starts to feel too real and I get spooped out of my mind so ymmv
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I really fucking hate how vials are finite. Nothing worse than wasting vials and then dying to a boss fight and then you have no echoes and no vials
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>>169930924
I too remember being a scrub on my first playthrough. Now I think limited vials was a good design choice that made the early parts of the game much more atmospheric and threatening for new players, forcing them to develop some skill rather than giving them a free pass to just mash their face against Gascoigne until they got lucky.

Don't worry, soon enough you can go to Ailing Loran and farm a room full of beasts in like 2 minutes and buy 50 blood vials and never worry about them again.
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Does anyone want to bully one reborn with me? Pass is bbg.
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>>169932650
At the lamp, or the fog?
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>>169932710
at the fug
:--D
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>>169932650
count me in
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>>169932848
Nice, I'm ringing.
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Wew, that was fast. Thanks Seg.
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>>169933387
Good stuff, m8
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>tfw haven't been able to connect to anybody for co-op today
fucking why
All my other consoles connect just fine
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>>169931463
This is my second and I actually remember being just as strapped for vials as I am now at this exact point because of the fucking bloody crow fight. This time I conserved a ton of vials up until this point by knowing how the game works but this time I'm working with 14/15 str/skill and Logarius ate up the remainder of my vials before I finally killed him.

Is there a way to see my real weapon attack power if I trick the chikage/bowblade?
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>>169934567
Check the Blood damage while in your weapon inventory. The player menu/level up screen only shows your Phys damage for them. You could also check in the bench when slotting gems.
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Fuck, I'm just having a ton of problems with lower pthumerian in general. Luckily, I remembered that I don't actually have to BEAT it if I just want to skip to ailing Loran for the beast claws.
Too bad I still have to beat Ludwig and Laurence if I want to use them well
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>>169889654
Don't lock on. Use a weapon with a wide horizontal attack. Hang out just out side of his leg.
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Is it worth it fucking around with the Beast Claw on a 50-25 STR/SKL build? I already have it up to +7, and the tricked moveset is fun. Also, how much better does the Beast Embrace rune make it?
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>>169938986
The rune makes it worse.
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>>169938986
People often say Beast's Embrace makes it worse, but it's still fun, and the transformed L2 gives you a free beast roar. REEEE mode is funmode.
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>>169929953
Nah 55 is fine for where you are, if a bit on the high end
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>>169938986
50/25 is optimal for Claw, so why not. With Rune is better for PvE, without is better for PvP.
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>think Im going to /v/
>accidentally go to /y/
>see they have a Soulsborne Thread

I wish I hadnt
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>>169924015
>>169925674
>>169928025
DONE

please like it literally took me all day
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This laurence fight sure is bullshit
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>>169942650
very quality
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>>169942985
thnk you it was fun to make

i learned a mouse is horrible for making these lol
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If I don't care about pvp, is there any reason I should stop leveling?
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>>169943364
Co-op level ranges
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>>169940581
>>169939327
Why exactly would it make it worse?
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>>169943398
What level is good for that?
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>>169942650
Good work famygdala
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>>169944001
80-120+. If it's for early levels, 24+.
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>tfw Nier coming out next week

looks like its time for a BBBreak
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>>169946171
>tfw Zelda comes out tomorrow
I'm 100% certain I'm going to play it for an hour or two and jump right back into BB
I tried the Nier demo, but the combat feels so weightless. It wasn't particularly fun to me, but I hope you enjoy it, man.
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Who's the best character and why is it is micolash
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>>169945675
thanks hoonter i tried my best
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>>169946648
Meme supreme, best dialogue, most dialogue, a little tonally different to the rest of the cosmic horror and nightmares and monsters as he runs around whooping and laughing like an asshole, very distinctive design with the cage, revealed unto us the name of Kosm, is also basically the main villain of the game.
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>>169946648
I like to think there's a zombie Micolash running around Yharhar now
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>>169942650
This is the anon who requested it, it looks amazing! What we may lack in quantity, we more than make up for in quality, have another meme.
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gatling gun
>can't parry
>can't use bone marrow ash
>does pretty mediocre damage per QS bullet
>can't burst finish bosses like a BMA'd cannon shot can

what's the point of it? Its "sustained damage" is piss poor.
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Any tips for Kosm? Nigga is relentless.
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>>169951365
It's a Gatling Gun. That's the point.
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>>169951512
He's susceptible to backstabs when he does that leaping attack in phase 1. You can also parry him through both phases, though.
Lure him to the water. It's a bigger area to fight in and you'll have an easier time dodging the bolt attack on phase 2.
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>>169951365
It's basically a pvp only weapon meant to keep pressure on your enemy, or as a finisher if they only have a pixel of hp left.
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>>169832520
Well, I have tried one method. It's kinda time consuming, but it's worked.
>Kill all Winter Lanterns below the elevator shortcut
>Go back around, kill all enemies near the well
>Get the first street shark down to half
>Make sure he's on the opposite side of the ladder when he's below half, so he has to run back over to where the other one drops down
>Go all the way back around to where the Winter Lanterns were
>Long weapon (Beast Cutter) or projectiles

I know there are much better ways to tackle these guys, but it was NG++ and I was curious and tired.
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>get the parry
>still get hit by the placenta
Fuck this shit is annoying
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>>169856674
This gives me life. That fucker deserves that.
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What do I do with beast claws? I finally grabbed them on my Str character and am considering replacing my amy arm with them (amy arm is kinda one dimensional desu), but I'm not sure what to do to make them super effective. I don't have the rune yet.
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>>169950914
thnk you! I was worried youd miss it this general im really glad you like it!

Thats my favourite Micolash meme so ill gladly take it
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>>169953142
Physical gems. With 50/25 Str/Skl a Heavy and 2 27.2% gems is optimal. I don't see the reason for replacing Amy Arm, both are pretty different. Claw has better DPS so it's better for PvE I suppose, Amy Arm is mostly for PvP.
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>>169953142
On vanilla remember to use that jump attack, it's basically your best move if you can land it consistently enough.
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>>169950914
forgot the music it came with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9YouPyEtg

(its in the background and if you stare at the picture long enough you can hear it)
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>>169953498
I'm replacing the amy arm because I'd rather use kirkhammer in my alternate slot, spamming the charged R2 has kinda gotten boring
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>>169953690
>>169953498
Also should I build more END? I'm currently at base but Beast Claws seems like one of the more stamina draining weapons.
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>>169943704
IIRC, the main problem is that it makes them slower.
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>>169954639
If you've got points to spare sure. No more than 20 End.
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>>169944951
was this made by neural-style from a screenshot or is it actual human-made art?
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I just had the most epic boss fight with Laurence ever, and as a summon too. The beckoner and I saved eachother from death multiple times. Laurence and I killed eachother at the end; him smashing me with his dying breath as I hit him with a charged HMLS beam as the violin solo played. I knew I would die but I didn't care because so would he. That music is so good; sometimes it seems like it syncs up with Laurence's timing on his moves, and with when your counterattacks would/should be
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Heh heh heh hah hah heh...Oh you, is it? Look at this! Thanks to you, I’ve done it! Well? Isn’t it wonderful?
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Mother Brain has to be the creepiest encounter in this game. I didn't even want to hit it. I'd compare it to that feeling you get when you see a big ass bug and you're too scared to even hit it.
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>>169962842
You're gonna have to if you ever plan on doing Ihyll my man
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>come back after over a year break
>summons still instant

feels good. The only thing that could kill this games population is bloodborne 2.
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>>169963819
>bloodborne 2

From Soft says they dont want to do a sequel but i wouldn't be surprised if there were one in a few years
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Can I get some help on NG++ Orphan of Kos? I'm tired as fuck but I refuse to sleep until he's dead. I'm outside the fog gate and the password is fistme
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>>169964206
will i be able to help you if i havent beat him on new game?

like i have a boss fog wall too
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>>169964252
Yeah you should be able too
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>>169964297
ok ill get in give me a sec

>im DR_ACULA
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>>169964340
>>169964206
well i died pretty quick
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>>169964297
still need help?
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>>169964781
No worries mate thanks for trying
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>>169964928
Yeah sure I still got some fight left in me
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>>169965009
direct hit with the lighting bolt kek
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>>169964928
>>169965009
Damn almost
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>>169965482
You up for another go?
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>>169965486
Fuck
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>>169966074
i send my emotional support
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sorry mate i have to go good luck with kos
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>>169966780
Hell yeah I managed to finish him. Thanks for the help man
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>spend all day playing Battlefield 4
>/bbg/ looks like it was actually not as cancerous as it's been the last few days
You fags would do that.
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Any tips on dodging/quickstepping?

It feels like a lot of enemies have some tracking on them. I feel bad about being able to reliably dodge those brick brute attacks.
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>>169967478
don't dodge when they wind up their attacks. Try to dodge through the hitbox from where it came from
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>>169966974
no probs!

im the guy that died 4 seconds into the fight from a while back
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>>169967478
be kinda lazy with the dodging. The more antsy you are, the more likely you are to dodge early and get caught right as you finish dodging, making you take 40% more damage from a counter-hit.

Also, dodge sideways and backwards from enemies that lunge at you such as dogs, and you will lunge back at them with tracking if you press R1 after the dodge. This doesn't happen if you dodge forwards and press R1.
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>>169967478
>Any tips on dodging/quickstepping?
>I feel bad about being able to reliably dodge those brick brute attacks.
wat.

To answer your question though:
-Don't panic dodge. You're never as safe as dashing makes you feel, and getting hit in the frames going in or coming out of a dash incurs a counter hit damage penalty.

-Try and dash into and through attacks.

-Most enemies should be (somewhat counter-intuitively) dodged into, letting the dash carry you behind them, rather than dodged away from. Dodging perpendicularly is usually a good idea as well.
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ahh kos
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>>169967478
Most enemies have very little tracking, but use lateral swings
Only use lock on when you're fighting small enemies, it's useless against most large ones
Sometimes you have to dodge at the last second depending on the attack, since if you dodge too early delayed attacks will hit you anyway
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How does blood addling work? If you invade with the sinister bell you are blood addled right and will summon people as invaders if they have the hunter rune equipped. but if they kill you once do you lose your blood addled status, or do you have to be killed as many times as you have killed other people?
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>>169967005
/bbg/ hasn't been cancerous since 2016.
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>>169972782
I think your blood addling increases as you kill NPCs or hosts, not just by invading
Getting killed by a Hunter of Hunters will reset your status
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scree
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Any recommendation? I'm going to grinding until level 40/45 before fight the Blood starved beast. Main weapon is kirkhammer and rifle spear
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>>169975369
you know people beat this game without weapons and leveling up. You never need to grind in souls games
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I've been doing mini challenges, just make root 5 FRC chalices and complete them 100% without going back to the dream or dying. It's good because all my weapons have durability curses, so I have to manage that. I ring the beckoning bell at the very start too, then keep bell maidens alive for potential PvP. The fucking witches and their instantly summoned sickle guys though holy fuck. Almost every summon I get just gets ass pounded by them since they probably aren't expecting a root FRC dungeon.
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>>169975416
yeah well, it's not like i'm gonna fighting any boss with any level, it's kind become a habit after years of JRPG
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>>169975416
>mfw I beat demons souls by leveling mainly strength and faith but used a quality winged spear the entire time

yes it's possible to do, doesn't mean it's fun to do starting out
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>>169975369
>grinding until level 40/45 before fight the Blood starved beast
I mean, it's only my first playthrough but I was bl38 at Paarl and felt like I was cheating, got him on my 2nd try.
Don't cheapen your experience like that.
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>>169975489
Your levels mean very little during the entirety of the main game, it's practically impossible to be under-leveled and your primary source of damage are the weapon upgrades and papers, not character level.

I mean, you're free to play the game however you like but you really really don't need to grind in BB. So just take care not to ruin your own experience with needless waste of time.
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>>169955756
its an edit of this
>>169975489
grinding will ruin the game by taking out any challenge or reward
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>>169975489
Your build right now is perfectly fine.

>>169975513
this duders build isn't completely shit, actually I'd say it's very good. He really doesn't need to grind at this point, or ever
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>>169975608
>>169975640
>>169975668
Thanks man, i keep thinkin maybe my level is so low that sometime i keep dying, guesst i start upgrade the weapon then.
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>>169975771
most of the deaths in this game is because you screwed up one way or the other. either you aggroed too many enemies, you fucked up a dodge, or were just caught off-guard. it's very rare that you die because of you being too low level. just keep on playing and you'll get a good hang of it
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>>169975837
I'll do just that then, thanks again pal
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>>169975369
>level 40/45 before fight the Blood starved beast.
don't
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what's a good reitherpallasch build?
i'm having lots of fun using reiter + evelyn on a 30SKL/30BLT build

i try to conserve ammo and only use the tricked form + fire/bolt paper to deal with some enemies, the evelyn i use with bone ash marrow for bosses
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>>169976534
50/10 Skl/Blt. The bullets don't scale well and the base damage is high enough to deal decent damage at base Blt, plus it's affected by 3 gems instead of just 1.
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>>169975369
[SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEARGHHHHHHHH]
snnnnniiiiiiffffffffffff...ah Kosm....sssnnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiffffffff....quite toxic indeed...is that....dare I say....sssssssnniff...slow poison I smell?......sniff sniff....hmmm...yes...enough to make a man sick....sniff....quite beastly yes very much so .....ssssssssssssssnnnnnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiffffff....dear oh dear...and also....a hint of....sniff....pungent blood cocktail.....
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>>169976454
>>169975837
Except for deaths resulting from the BSB's grab attack, where one failed dodge can end a battle that went perfectly up to that point. If you grind Vit in order to survive that bullshit attack, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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>>169977385
No that's still not okay. Use the time you'd have spent grinding to learn the fight better. Or hold forward-right or forward-left and stay up in his shit and never get hit.
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>>169977385
at one point you simply have to git gud. bsb has one of the most stupid and exploitable AIs in the game. once you "get" him you will think he's one of the easiest bosses in the game
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>>169977385
Tip: always dodge to the left (BSB's right), it doesn't have the best tracking in the world. At least that's how I got it on my 1st playthrough, took me only 3 tries to get it right.
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>>169977385
Except you deserve death if you get caught by that easily telegraphed attack. BSB is piss easy to take down under a minute using the items picked up along the way. Pellets, Papers, even Pungent Cocktails to keep him distracted. Hell you could just stick to the left like glue to avoid every attack.
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>>169977385
When leveling you should level in this order:

>20 Vit
>Up to 20 End (stop sooner if your build uses less, obviously)
>30 vit
>weapon requirements
>scaling stats
>Vit to max for your build

By the time you get to BSB, you should have more than enough Vit to survive a hit. The grab should only hit you if you dodge back.

Never dodge back. You should be dodging forward and a bit to the side. You should be trying take his side or back. That is the entire point of what this fight is trying to teach you about the game.
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>>169977702
>End second
Eh, unless you start Scion(fucking 8 end jesus) you really dont need to level End until the very end of a build. By the time you'd want more you almost or already have the first anti-clock rune to improve it.

I'd go
>25/30 Vit
>Primary/Only attack stat 25
>(Secondary attack stat 25)
>Vit to build max
>Attack stats to build max
>End to build max

Arc is slightly different with the second step being a fuckload of Arc and then rounding out the Vit from 25/30
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>>169978104
End early on is more helpful because it lets you take more actions during the time in the game where you are without stamina runes.
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>>169978223
Most of the origins start with ~12-ish end wich is plenty, unless you want to do 5 attacks in a row uninterrupted you can manage easily.
Like i said there are a few exceptions like Scion
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>>169978223
Exactly. at the beginning of the game you can stunlock most things, so a few points in End can make the difference between you killing that Large Huntsmen and you being forced to step back to let your stamina recover (and potentially being killing doing it)
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>>169978332
This.

I also tend to favor stamina hungry weapons as well (e.g. LHB, Whirly, Rakuyo).
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>tfw the untricked form was the real guiding moonlight all along
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>>169978472
Find the untricked version far too slow considering it's a one-handed weapon. I mean sure it does decent damage that way, but hitting something with both the R2's sword strike and the magic beam for almost 1000 damage just never gets old.
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>>169978472
>watch a streamer do a minimum level run with HMLS (base stats to wield it and nothing else)
>he just uses BBP and spams the untricked thrust
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Any tips for not falling asleep on undead giant?
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>>169979021
attack the weak spots for massive damage
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>>169979021
Keep in mind he can cancel the wind down of his animations and that he reads inputs.
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>>169980014
That only happens if you play for a long time
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>after playing Dark Souls, was overwhelmed how fast Bloodborne combat is
>Bloodborne combat is sluggish as hell compared to Nioh

I can't get into it anymore. Nioh looks, plays and runs infinitely better than Bloodborne. When is that performance enhancing BB patch coming out that people are beta testing?
>>
>>169981949
Go home >>169925660
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>>169980014
>try to heal in a boss fight
>punish
>dodge backwards
>punish
Every boss does it, I'm sure.
>>
>>169981949
you get used to it again after half an hour but yeah the difference in performance is quite jarring
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>>169981949
I'm hesistating to buy Nioh because as far as I'm concerned the enemy variety is pretty shit.
I've played the beta and enjoyed it a lot, but whenever I tuned in to watch a couple of buddies play it, I see the same enemies I fought in the demo, sometimes with different elemental damage.
It puts me a bit off, is it as bad as I think it might be?
>>
>>169982458
the enemy variety is pretty bad, if that's a major issue for you you'll probably be put off by it
>>
>Quick search for sinister bell for the first time
>Gud times ahead
>Spawn next to beckoner and his friend
>Get LHB spammed to death on spawn in tiny room
Yeah okay, not what i was expecting.
>>
What haplens if I put flat arcane gems on a Chikage?
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>>169983029
It happens.
>>169983576
I can't imagine it would be very beneficial, but you could try it.
>>
I am so glad Bloodborne has an active community.
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Would you have preferred Patches if he were a regular hunter and not pic related?
>>169984073
We love you too
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Anyone want to beat up the cleric beast with me?

bl10
pw is bbg
I'm right outside the boss area
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>>169984623
Booting up my ps4.
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>>169977051
Dude, What?
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>>169984738
Thanks friend!
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>>169985043
Cheers, bud.
nice rp name
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>>169977513
Pardon me, How do you fuse fire element to our weapon?
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>>169985279
Seek the chalice, seek the hotdog.
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>>169985210
Thanks!

Doing Amelia next if anyone wants to help.

bl10
pw is bbg
I'm outside the boss door
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>>169983576
It will have bad split damage
>>
>Get summoned to the Father Gascoigne area
>Assumed the beckoner is near the fog gate
>He's actually fighting the Cleric Beast
>Gotta run my ass over there with elevator not activated

I never did a lot of co-op during my first playthrough, but damn. It manages to be more convenient, yet, more troublesome than Dark Souls.

Nonetheless, I managed to get summoned about four times; helping me level up my new character.
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>>169981949
>tfw your game can't stand on its own
>need to shill in better games' threads to survive
Being a NIOHgger is suffering
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>>169984309
Patches the spider is my favorite Patches
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>>169981949
But it's actually not, it's just feels lighter and floatier and lacks the heft and visceral nature of Bloodborne's combat. Nioh combat is overwhelmingly unsatisfying, favouring raw speed over feel, with hits feeling like they just pass through enemies instead of truly connecting. The sound and visual design of the combat is piss poor in Nioh.
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Still need help with Amelia...

Anyone able to help?
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>>169990206
I've got a BL52 character in the middle of a run. I don't know how bad the downscaling will be, though. Still want to give it a shot?
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>>169990637
I'm willing to accept anyone's help lol. I'm outside the boss door.
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>>169990732
ringadinging
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>>169990819
Make sure your pw is set to bbg
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>>169991017
Yeah, it is
You bought the emblem right? I think that interferes with bell summoning.
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>>169991118
Does it? Don't tell me I have to run all through old yarn-ham and kill crazy poison beast
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>>169991238
I remember there being some confusion around summoning for Amelia. Something about the Hunter Chief Emblem and opening a specific gate
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>>169991502
I opened the gate using the Hunter Chief Emblem, but I thought that's all you needed to do. Is there more to it?
>>
Does the game have any actually good continuous hp recovery gems outside of that one you get early on to counteract the Chikage draining?
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>>169992008
You need to open all 3 gates in Ward to ring for Amelia iirc
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>>169992008
The rest of the gates too?
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>>169992049
Pretty sure the Max you can get is Hp recover 5 from the Ritual Masters in Depth 5 chalices
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>>169992092
All the gates are open and I was able to ring just fine, and I could summon the Old Hunter in the area. Maybe it was just bad server connections?
>>
>>169992210
Maybe
I reset my console ten minutes ago and was able to connect to randoms. I'm not sure what's going on now
>>
>>169992331
I rang my bell again in the area if you want to try again.
>>
>>169992458
I've had my bell ringing with the password for a bit, but it looks like we still haven't connected.
>>
>>169992635
I'm just going to drop the password and see if I can get anyone at this point. I've never had such an issue when summoning someone.
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>in the middle of an intense co-op session against Laurence
>hear the door bell ring
>can't leave the game
>eventually stops
>later found out it was the AC worker coming to fix the ducts
welp, time to pay $200 for a new appointment
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Guys, I just cant do it.

I just can't not use the Cleaver/Spear. I've gone through so many NG+ cycles spamming them that when I try to go a new build, I can't make it to NG+ when making a new character.
>>
>>169942650
That's brilliant work anon.
Gd job.
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>>169925674
>Find Cursed Dungeon with 5 of these fuckers sitting around a statue elevator in the room linking lantern and boss corridor.
>Kill self
>>
>>169993330
force yourself to use a new weapon for a number of bosses. you will eventually get used to it

>>169993290
you're stupid
>>
>>169993290
I hope you realize that was stupid and won't do something like that again. There's nothing that important in a co-op session.
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>>169993330
You will do yourself a favor if you get over it. Almost all BB weapons are great when you get used to them, and a lot of them require time for that.
Just stick Saw Spear and Cleaver in the storage and forget about them.
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No such thing as too low level.

THere are people(person?) who have gone up to NG+7 and done all bosses at SL4.
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>>169983921
>>169987069
Thanks, but it's not that bad actually with an pretty early %phys +flat arcane gem.
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>>169993591
thanks m8
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>gascoigne has his full boss moveset and animations when you summon him
Jesus Christ I wasn't expecting that.
Also, why are ng+ cospoor co-op runs the best runs in the game?
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Guys help, our substitute calculus teacher is making horse noises and shooting lightbeams at us.
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>>169997629
Today is Friday, so the campus food court is probably serving pizza. You know what to do, anon.
Grab a pizza cutter and start cutting.
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How do I kill pic related? I always die to the arcane beam he throws in the third phase.
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Don't forget to come to fight club on saturday
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>>169985561
>>169993247
I assume you already killed Amelia but if you still down for some early chalices or other stuff I'm here.
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>>169998326
If it's Bribri, just run when (she) shoots beams. Bait headslams and wack at it.
>>
Why does everyone say that the solo in the Laurence ost is done by a violin? Because it's a cello.
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>>170002558
Literally never seen someone call it a violin
>>
>>170002654
Someone actually did in this thread
>>
>>170002732
I'm not one for reading blogposts. Thank you for ruining my track record
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>>169992049
three +5 pulsing gems in your weapon and one in your gun makes you regen 20 HP/sec (maybe its every two seconds)

>>170002654
because somebody else called in a violin solo
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>>170002558
Because noone cares you go to music school faggot.
>>
>random Mensis ringing for 20 minutes and nothing
>suddenly 2 ganks in a row
Today is a good day to carry lead elixirs and wreck shit
>>
How does killing the Blood Starved Beast magically open a door to the Church Workshop Tower?
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>>170008446
im more upset that he just gives you a chalice instead of a new weapon or some armor
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>>170008625
A chalice that leads to new weapons and armor?
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>>170004449
Looks like someone thought it was a violin
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>>169998890
Now that I'm actually gemmed and leveled, I'll be sure to be there.
>>
So could I just stay at ~BL43 and put +8% to +9% phys brainsucker gems with +65 to +72 flat arc on Logarius' wheel, and tricked it would destroy everyone in one hit in random pvp?

Do any other weapons hit many times per attack like that? Whirligig saw maybe?

Are brainsucker gems better than nourishing gems at low level play?
>>
>knock patches down
>try to get the item
>he still pushes me down
fukken cunt

what actually is it and do I have to kill him in the lecture halls to be able to get it?
>>
>>170010423
>implying a violin is not just a different kind of guitar
dumb musicfag
>>
>>170011191
Does he knock you down again if you go back to the top?
>>
>>170008894
.....ok you got me
>>
>>170011212
>implying that they're the same thing
Uncultured swine
>>
Hey guys, newbie here. Are there any pvp weapons or itmes that are not prohibited but that people frown upon?
>>
>>170012931
I mean, gun spamming and using vials after every hit is pretty gay but I can't think of other things outside of standard DS fair (attacking while bowing, etc.)
>>
>>170012931
Two-handed Logarius' Wheel dash R1, only the biggest incompetent pussies hate it though
Evelyn spam can be annoying, but it can also get you killed
Rakuyo spin attack is annoying in general and difficult to counter
>>
Jesus Christ, why the fuck is Laurence so god damn hard? And where are all the cooperators at?
>>
>>170013616
Gotta watch out for the delayed attacks, especially on those swipe combos he does. That's what I see most people die to during co-op. They panic dodge and are caught in the counter of the delay.
>>
>>170013734
This and also the spin attacks.
The attack that makes him fall on the ground also kills all my hosts, he only does it when you take something like 25% of his health.
>>
>>170014219
Yeah, it's that combo that always manages to get me. You have practically no room for error on that one or you're screwed, and he can wind into it really fast, so I attempt to play really reservedly, but the longer the fight takes, the more opportunities he has to use it, and he's got a crazy amount of health. Curiously I have no trouble with that fall down attack, pretty much my only grievance with him is that combo
>>
>>170014587
The swipe combos hurt like crap, yeah. I usually try to dodge into them lazily to avoid going in too early, but getting the timing wrong is easily fatal. I think people try to panic dodge out immediately after they get hit once by a swipe, only to get countered by the second incoming one.
Tough cause the tracking and range of those swipes are crazy, so you're often not safe just successfully dodging a single swipe to get behind him. He'll usually rotate and snag you again.
>>
>>170012931
People often can't stand fighting against Chikages because users always spam the same fucking attack
>>
>>170016856
It's more that 90% of the dudes with Cheesecake are shit with it, only use it because it's a Katana and end up spamming their evelyn because they can't hit shit with the unzip.
>>
> can't just sit at a lantern to refill your vials/billets, have to do TWO loading screens, or else waste bold marks
> consequently, also the only game where you're throttled in supplies and need to periodically use the lantern to resupply
I even enjoy that last part, it makes it more interesting to have a limited number of highly valuable supplies as opposed to carrying 999 arrows everywhere, but letting us rest at lamps as warp lamp to lamp would cut down on so much loading
>>
>>170018786
Bloodborne's basically a spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, vials instead of grass, few checkpoints in a level - one at the beginning, one after a boss. There's only a few instances (Cainhurst, Yahar'gul, Mensis, Hunter's Nightmare and Fishing Hamlet) where there's just a lantern in the level with no boss.
>>
>>170019497
Cainhurst has a second lantern?
>>
>>170019623
Three lanterns. The one at the entrance, the second after defeating Logarius, and the third in Annalise's chamber.
>>
>>170019690
The other places you mentioned had lanterns that were not at a boss while Cainhurst only had the starting one. The Annalise one was just superfluous desu, not sure why they added that one.
>>
>>170019978
I believe it's just for ease of access because she's a covenant leader. I don't know if it counts, but it's an example of a lantern not at the beginning or after a boss, there's already Logarius' lantern.
>>
>>170013616
In his cleric beast form, he's got a ton of random unexpected attacks that he just pulls out of his ass once per fight, if that. And most of them have similar startups. So many of his attacks seem the same until suddenly they're not and they kill you. Like I just got killed by him while helping in NG+ because he was doing the windup like his very first move (where he smashes his exploding fist into the ground), only he didn't delay at all and he immediately fell on me and killed me for ~1100 damage, even with the charred gear.

Other times he will be attacking the host mid swing and will turn around 180 degrees and do a swipe at me followed by some random underhanded thrusting-punch attack before leaping into the air backwards randomly and landing on the host. Then he's got those stumbling, lunging combos that have as much range as Bloodletting beast's big punch by the time of the final swipe, and are delayed a different amount for every swing.

IMO Laurence's first form is harder to figure out than his second
>>
>>170020248
I thought you listed those as examples for extra lamps that were put there for gameplay/level design reasons
>>
Anyone mind helping a nigga out with Laurence?
>>
>>170020763
What BL you at my dude?
>>
>>170020313
Laurence's second form is only hard the first times you fight him, then you figure out that it's entirely designed for killing players who dodge backwards or laterally, you learn that running in circles is the best way to avoid his attacks and kill him easily. At least that's my experience.
The first phase is always difficult for me, but fun as fuck.
>>
>>170020394
Yeah, those are just examples of rare lanterns with no attached boss, because the areas are so large and I guess they couldn't figure out any shortcuts without bullshit. Demon's wasn't so reasonable about it.
>>
>>170021098
>Demon's wasn't so reasonable about it.
?
>>
>>170020763
whats the password
>>
>>170020885
I've still got to practice against Laurence. His first phase can just fuck me up if I don't watch my timing. I don't co-op him at all for that reason. I'm sure I'd die and waste the host's time. He just hits like a fucking truck
>>
>>170020836
93, NG
I'll set the password to laurence, all lower case
>>
>>170021604
Where you ringing at senpai
>>
Got that help and finished Laurence
You glorious person you, my nigga/10
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>>170022187
nice, got 'im

I made that holy moonlight sword specifically for Laurence and other beast bosses such as Beast Possessed Soul. It's got a reject HP-drain 21.5% nourishing abyssal, a 27% beasthunter gem and a 19.3% nourishing gargoyle gem with 5.4% open foes. It does like 3800 damage on the charged R2 + R2 followup to him
>>
>>170022357
Good work, excellent my man
>>
>>170021304
You got two lanterns - one at the beginning, one after a boss, that's it. Everything else was shortcuts of varying degrees of usefulness.
>>
Can i help people in NG+ if im still in NG and vise versa?
>>
>>170023396
Yes
>>
>>170023396
Yep. I've been dragged into faggots with minmaxed characters running on their seventh new game.
>>
>>170023489
I always wondered, does difficulty keep going up after NG+7?
>>
>>170026384
No idea. My +10 Beast claws barely tickled the crows outside of the Cleric Beast boss fight before they swarmed me and killed me in two seconds. Why is it that, in Bloodborne, the most terrifying things are dogs and birds?
>>
>>170026498
Dogs have always been and will always be absolute nightmares, they're fast, they stagger and they're small, you either need precise or wide ass swings to hit them they often come in pairs. The fucking crows can be ridiculous, straight up stunlock you with the leaping attack that takes off a fair chunk of HP.

Actually, speaking of dogs and crows, what's the deal with the switched head ones in Mensis? What actual reason is there for them to be there other than being weird?
>>
>>170026384
It doesn't
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>>170027093
Micolash was bored.
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>>170027093
They're just creatures that exist in the nightmares, like the armored children, boulder-throwing giants, human-headed spiders and crawling monsters that drop blood stones.
Not everything that comes from the nightmare world is a great one or kin.
>>
I need help for Laurence too, somebody willing to meet at the fog
>>
>>170028542
Sure thing m8, lemme load up
>>
>>170028612
alright pass will be bb3. thanks in advance
>>
>>170028801
We going again, dude?
>>
I'm here til we get him, anon
>>
goddamn, thank you anon. I'm forever grateful
>>
>>170031439
He's honestly the reason I got PS+, I'm glad to help kill him any day.
>>
I want to get the HLMS a bit early. Does anybody feel like lending a hand against Ludwig? I'm BL54, and the password is bbg
Ringing at the fog if anybody is interested
>>
>>170031798
Absolutely, on my way
>>
>>170031798
>bl54
>ludwig
>early
lafin at ur lyfe
>>
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>>170031930
Is there any way we could have or weekly FC in an non-chalice area this time? I have always wanted an FC to take place in that little pond with the lightbugs in Forbidden Woods.
>>
>>170031930
That went really smoothly, thanks my guy
>>
>>170032154
>a bit early
>a bit
>somewhat; to some extent.
>synonyms: s: somewhat, fairly, slightly, rather, quite, a little, moderately
>>
>>170032476
>bl54
>a bit
bl54 is at least 50 levels too high for the dlc
>>
Someone pls
>>
new thread?
>>
>>170033442
Only because you asked so nicely anon

NEW THREAD

>>170033651
>>170033651
>>170033651
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