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Shadowverse is a free to play class based CCG similar to Heathstone /hsg/ and Gwent /wtc/

>NEWS

NEW EXPANSION "Tempest of the Gods" to be released this March! Start saving rupies:

https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

The GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the following pastebin for details:
http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Old thread: >>169769294
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>new thread
>have to scroll down to see the first post

when will it stop?
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MAKE SAHA FUCKING 10 PP, THIS CARD IS RUNNING RIOT.
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The Aegis faggot is affected by bane right? That's why they printed Zeus.
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> Absolutely none of the new cards change the already existing meta of Daria
Gg cygames.
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>>169781891
8pp would do, it's just ridiculous that they're getting luci heal with 7pp and without the opportunity to subsequently kill luci, and with a free enemy follower destroyed too
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>>169781891
>10 mana 4/4

No, thanks!
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I have 2000 gold from the quests and intro missions
where do I spend them on
also should I not go into arenas just yet
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Gwent player here

Please don't lump our game together with your weebtrash.
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>>169781890
Is better like that i love this op
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>>169781970
>can have a free 13/13 storm that returns to your hand.
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>>169781958
Barely ten cards have been reveled so far, kid.
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>>169781890
Why don't OPs just put everything in a nicely categorized pastebin again?
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>>169781891
You struggling against brickcraft? Just play Luna with Khawy, she eats Rowen for breakfast
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>>169781975
Report the OP and maybe the faggot will stop making shit OPs
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>Barely played SV after Rise of Bahamut was released
>Already new expansion announced
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>>169781958
>wah wah i don't like this deck
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>all these anons thinking that Aegis will be viable
>thinking that Zeus will be viable
>that the Saha Engine will get stronger

Im just gonna play Daria with some new burn/removal/followers when the expansion hits and kill you on turn 6 or 5, like I do now.

Nothing personal, just stating some facts here.
Everyone is getting WAY AHEAD of themselves....
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>>169782042
Three months does seem like a short space of time. Four would be better I think, but these days games tend to die without constant updates.
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>all those aggro decks in T1

Is 2378 Nep the best Nep again?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
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>>169782103
Yes
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>>169781891
>a craft other than haven shouldn't be allowed to heal waaaaaah
Saha is actually a pretty weak card, you should be asking for buffs.
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>>169781973
If you're not sure what exactly you want to play then just save them up until the next expansion hits. You can easily rank up to A with a hodgepodge of whatever you get from free tickets.

Use up all your free arena tickets, see if you're any good. Spend your rupies on runs if you are (average 3 wins per run).
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Your days are numbered shadoweebs

HS gonna have daily reward now.
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>>169782207
>for a very limited time

Forgot that frog poster
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>>169782081
>implying they won't nerf daria indirectly with salamander breath v2 and lion spirit v2.
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>>169782207
>a week login rewards.
LMAO.
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>>169782246
>implying clears matter for Daria
The burn damage is honestly more of a problem than anything else
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>>169782081
Remember when armchair analysts also said Bahamut will be shit because it just helps Seraph?
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>>169782207
>2 free packs and 100 gold for new expansion
nice game
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>>169782024
Because some other autist likes that ugly ass OP, and he goes out of his way to make threads just to post it.
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A moment of silence, please.
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>>169782285
Probably do something like restore 1 per follower destroyed or some shit. Soon you will have wolverine_looking_at_daria.jpg
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>>169782294
I run 1 Bahamut in my Seraph deck.
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>>169782342
He's alright, shut up.
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I wonder if the sahaluci package will be the best for cblood now, that way all their 5+ attack cards will be neutral so they can tutor exclusively for Azazel or Temptress.

Zeus as another strong ward might be better than Bahamut for them since they already have rev to clear board.
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>>169782342
>>169782024
Wrong, if you use pastebin eventualy someone will throw shrek script in OP
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>>169782294
Really the only reason Bahamut became a major force is the meta. If this was DE meta Bahamut would be pretty mediocre, since that was a very D Shift relevant meta. Daria just happens to be super popular right now, and Daria is a deck 100% made to be dismantled by a full board clear.
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>Wrath drake is a 5pp making it unplayable due to tutor pollution
Jesus bozo, take some time off of sucking the bang and a boom roach cock for a second to understand how the deck you fucked with gimmick draw works.

>Vengeancecraft gets a second cheap ward to go with its metal gargoyles
>Doubles as a vengeance popper
Yeeeees

>>169780995
Dragon needed that ward, bane covers the attack issue, and storm doesn't make him a dead play.

>>169781958
>3 copies of stronger breath
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>>169781819
Who the fuck added back hsg and now gwent in the OP? Remove that shit.
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>>169782365
They really need to buff some standard cards.
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>caring about whats in the OP.
autism.
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hot
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>>169782207
>realize that monthly rollover for HS is going to happen and have a few hours, may as well grind from 25 to 20 to get the sleeves for the month
>play a few games, remember how shit the game is and how little control you have over things and how infested it is with RNG
>ranks reset an hour and a half early so I get cock-blocked out with only getting to 22

Yeah nah, I uninstalled that shit.
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>>169782480
It's some discord faggot trying to get back the short OP.
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>>169782424
The 5/10 storm is pretty good too since Control seems to have trouble closing out games without just making the opponent run out of resources.
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>>169782365
Removal killed dragon so hard and even rune ramps better.

>>169782458
Bahamut is still fucking cancer. It's an overstatted card anyone can take that resets momentum and absolutely eviscerated non-cd amulet users forever.
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>>169782548
a boys' haircut
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So after buying DE packs almost exclusively for the entire duration of RoB that's what I got. 2 crafted Dorothy in the first week and 2 extra Neps vialed

Really no point in trying to get the rest right? I mean if I'd ever feel like playing the boring piece of trash that is sword I can just craft Albert.
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it's a dailies take over 2 hours because you can't stop bricking episode
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>>169782584
>and even rune ramps better.
That's really the source of Dragon's woes. Its craft power is utterly worthless now that spellboost is far better than actual PP.

>Bahamut is still fucking cancer.
Yeah, it's not healthy for the game, on that we can agree.
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>>169782649
>no saha

Neutral Ramp will be tier 1.
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Impcraft when?
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>>169782651
Hear hear. Some of those days I just close the game and move on with my life.
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>>169782649
Pretty much.If you want to run neutralcraft take a saha.

>>169782684
What infuriates me is that if you run a thicc dragon deck, it's just absurd how they constantly get their shit shoved in all game.

>>169782731
How much you want to bet one of the blood legos is a bat tempo card?
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>>169782731
cute
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>>169782731
I dreamed fucking a imp yesterday. She kinda looks like
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>>169782693
I lack 2 more Luci anyway so I'll need 5 more legos in total which at that point would be faster to craft than get desu.
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>>169782684
>>169782584

>bahamut bad
t.ptp/elana main
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>>169782771
I want a new playstyle with Blood kinda like how they did with Daria.
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>>169782294
You still run into players who don't read Seraph or Bahamat or both. Some Csword deck got me a Seraph win on their turn yesterday by playing Bahamat.
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>>169782807
Polyphonic/castle arthur's resolve memer actually.
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>>169782731
She's cute but they should stop pushing the shit vengeance mechanic desu.
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>>169782731
This card isn't even bad, man. Not explosively good but just solid.
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>>169782776
>back to **reddit is considered spam
>"cute" is not
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i have heard some anons mentioned a new popular aggro sword deck with lyrial and angel of the word, but neither game-ai nor even gamepress has such a deck

does anybody have the list? just out of curiosity, i personally already use lyrial myself and i wonder how many commanders they pick having 6 neutral followers who are neither officers nor commanders
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>>169782807
I mostly play ramp dragon, actually. Your only path to winning getting to Bahamut is pretty awful, though. That ain't a fun game.
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>>169782807
Take a wild guess what I play
>When you get 3 crystals only for bahamut

>>169782863
>Cheap vengeance ward
>Pops vengeance
>You can then moriana/Axe a righteous devil back out of it
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>>169782863
a 2pp 1/4 ward is too strong without a drawback desu
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>>169782863
>playing shield angel one turn earlier
>bad

Taking two damage for one mana seems perfectly fine. If anything vengeance makes it so you don't always take the two damage. It's strictly fine.
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>>169782895
I think it's some Shadow deck.
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>all this retards thinking that blood will receive good cards

you need to understand the pattern:
>art of a semen demon
>cool effect
>understtated
>shit
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>>169782731
Same artist as Erinyes, right?
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>>169782863
1/4's overstatted for a 2 drop. Somethin's gotta give. Especially since blood has a lot of drain now.
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>>169782882
What's wrong with cute?
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post aggro sword lists anons
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>>169783043
>>169783006
I haven't noticed it was 2pp. Thought it was 3pp like all the other 1/4 wards.
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>>169782895
http://game-ai.jp/24951/

they have 3 commanders, they only tutor albert.
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>>169783043
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>fuck up and miss lethal
>me and my opponent proceed to have a topdeck battle
>we emote spam every turn
That was fun.
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>>169783061
I gonna spoonfeed you. The people that post it are either below of what's considered young or ironically shitting on it. You can figure next hint: keddit
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>>169781819
Tell me about the dragonsong flute, what's so wrong?
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>>169783170
ty

so, it's "midrange"
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halp
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>>169783191
Taking him in dragon is its own punishment.
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I hate this game

I went on to lose this match because I was 1 damage off lethal
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>>169783170
>a guaranteed draw on one if not the most OP legos currently in this game.

Fucking amazing. I only wonder why it took them so long to figure it out. I sure love seeing a turn 5 Albert hitting me for 5 every single fucking time followed by Alwida.
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How can Fafnir even compete?
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>>169783191
>no ward

These things matter really early game.
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>>169783282
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
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>>169783282
Haha I sure do love maymays
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>>169783352
>Now Loading...
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>>169783328
One damage to everything on turn 5 seems a bit underwhelming to be honest.
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>>169783328
Wrath's understatted, can't reduce the enhance cost leaving little to play anything with him, needs crystals, and it pollutes the tutor poor for emissary making him unplayable.
I can drop a fafnir to 6pp and play him with a leviathan
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>>169783282
NE, NE, NANISHITE ASOBUNO?

fucking cunt
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>>169783326
roach was more consistent and could kill faster before the nerfs so there wasn't any reason to play it.
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>>169783434
It's a pendant synergy and momentum swing card. Play a pendant then next turn dragon wing's + wrath to clear the board. then later he's a conflagration that's not as much of a brick
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Play Aggro Shadow. Play with Luna!
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What is your evil deed you did in SV today?
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>>169783516
Or just play something better on 5 and Salamander on 6.
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>>169783690
You can runaway pretty hard with 2 pendants down letting you clear with fanfares and cheap damage
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>>169783690
bullying bloodplayers.


they will never have a good deck
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>facing D Shift
>ramping hard but can't draw any storm creatures
MODS MODS MODS
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>>169783819
Sheeit man, if only you didn't have like, 18 storm followers and 3 cards that tutor them
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>>169783639
Sure if you stop matching me up against fucking healspam decks.
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>>169783854
It's rough when you have to kill them by turn 7, anon
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>>169783690
I never rope, emote, or BM before lethal and always resist the urge to even if others do it to me. I'm a clean player.
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>>169783690
>>169783784
Why do people keep posting this fucking meme girl from this seasonal fotm anime all the time?

At least post better girls if you really have to.
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>>169783639
Luna is so fucking sexy she should be illegal
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>put 3 followers on board, one of them having a nasty lastwords

So what class can benefit from this? That undercosted 5/5 ward just seem so gravy.
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Someone give me a cheap elf list I can use to get my sleeves with.
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>>169783876
ayyy, just ramp and shapeshifters bro :^)
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Tasukete
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>>169783690
I'll rope every turn and alt-f4 in the end if I'm losing.
I wouldn't bother if the game had chat and I could tell them to kill themselves, but I've got to do with what I have.
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>>169783462
uh, May doesn't say that?
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>>169783923
Because she's literally Satan
And there's a pretty good Satan card in SV
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>>169783930
you need to give at least the basic information.

what gold and legos
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>>169783936
Honestly I'd trade ramp for spellboost on dragon in an instant. We max at 10, meanwhile they use 30 mana worth of cards in a turn.
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>>169783923m
Memegirl of the season, same with shit like Umaru, Hestia etc
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>>169783928
tempo forest, atomemes, non-nep last word shadowcraft
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>>169783938
Help with what? Just do the quest.
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>>169783989

The basic information is

>A cheap elf list.
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>>169783980
I know that. But at some point it gets fucking old.
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>>169784026
What's the cheapest working elf deck out there
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>These Legendaries are sure to form the core of new deck types, opening up more possibilities for deck builders than ever before.
Have we made fun of Cygames phrasing yet?
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>>169784021
Holy shit, I just realized. That's a 5-cost last word for nepnep. That's crazy for 2578.
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>>169784050
anon i want to help you.

pls help me to help u
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I hope the new expansion improves the meta. I fucking hated using roach and daria decks. Ptp forest and dshift made me enjoy the game.
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>>169783992
>tfw we'll never get gain max pp, remove max pp, spend pp from next turn, retain x unspent pp mechanics to deal with ramp punching you in the dick after you already filled up and couldn't nut because everyone is gushing removal+stall

>>169783930
A bucket of bleach

>>169784050
If he doesn't know what legos and golds you fucking have he doesn't know what he can work with
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>>169784114
>dshift made me enjoy the game.

Fucking kys. Just go back to hsg
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>>169784114
>I hate Daria and Roach.
>PTP WAS FUN!
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>>169784114
Sounds to me like it's gonna speed up the game.
Are you gonna wait till turn 10 for a 5/10 bane ward storm bullshit?
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>>169784114
>Ptp forest and dshift made me enjoy the game.
kys
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>>169784050
Default
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>>169784095
>>169784145
He just wants a cheap elf deck. That's the only information you need.
Every fucking time someone asks for a deck it's "POST LEGOS AND GOLDS XDD". Nigga if he cared about showing them to you he'd have already done so. Just post a deck or don't reply, he can choose himself if that's cheap enough for him or not.
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>>169784114
>Know what I liked playing? Free win cancer. I really hated when I had to fight for 10% of my games...
Just jerk off faggot.
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>Goblin princess
>Zeus
>tfw Neutralcraft is becoming even better
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>>169784160
>speed up the game even more than it's already is

You want to see consistent turn 4 wins now?
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>>169784114
>Ptp forest and dshift made me enjoy the game.
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>>169784145

If only there was a mechanic in the game that allowed you to make cards from some sort of substance.

>>169784095

Literally any cheap list that is effective.
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>>169783926
She is cute too boot!
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>>169784209
There fucking isn't one. You will not compete with a gold/legoless forest deck. The only wins you'll get are from sandbaggers, lobotomized mouthbreathers, and people who bricked so hard they were mistaken for the grand wall of china. It's a matter of raw power.
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Poor Otomeme more mass removals.
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>>169783476
Alberto is more consistent actually (12 storm cards plus strong board presense). But Alberto has trouble closing games vs decks with heal and strong removals.
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>>169784285
Otomeme is the Daria of DE
The more she suffers, the better
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>>169784239
>>169783938
just craft the fucking roach
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>>169784321
That was Elana.
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>>169784239
I dunno fampai, you got motherfucking 26k vials sitting around? Cause that's the entry fee to forest.
Your wallet has to be this thicc to ride the elf cock.
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>Go against a Dragon player in AA rank who loses himself the game by playing lightning behemoths
I actually had no idea this card even existed.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

Since we are going to have 104 cards and 2 legendaries for each craft, I suppose it will be distributed 13 cards per craft. We will assume it's 2 Gold for now until they show us a 3rd Gold for one class.
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>>169784229
No, I wanna see cygames get their shit together or this is gonna be hearthstone 2.0 with anime tiddies.
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>>169784321

Storm haven was the Daria of DE. It's like everyone forgot 3rd turn Hallowed on Aria into Baldie
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>>169784374
It already is, anon.
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>2 legendaries for each class
Oh boy. I guess they can print one meme and one meta card this way, but that change is scary. SV is F2P-friendly, I want it to stay that way.
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>>169784350
Animated behemoths are the tits and you can put some pretty crazy pressure turn after turn with emissary, cavalier, Leviathan, behemoth, queen serpent, neptune, grea, and simalazcrums.
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>>169784419
its not that hard to get legendaries to be honest.
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>zeus
>storm bane ward 5/10
>saha's new boyfriend
Gangbang doujins with luci, satan, baha and zeus when?
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>>169784323
Roach is pretty bad without Ancient Elf to re-stack the hand while protecting you, to be honest.
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>>169784323

Thank you.

>>169784343
Yes. But I'm not looking for some long term use or anything. I'm just going to grind out what I need for this quest and then never touch that knife eared fuck ever again.
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>>169784050
No one cares about elf. Most /svg/ are shitters who cant play elf.
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>>169784470
tan lin is the ancient elf of the deck
anon this is justa budget deck
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>Score: 1000
>Upcoming Card Pack Ticket x1
What
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>>169784468
I'm not kidding, I didn't get a single legendary in February, and I do my missions everyday. I don't lack legendaries because I whaled a bit and I have the daily deal, but still.
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>>169784469
poor saha, she can never get a man to stay.
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>>169784321
When will Daria get her punishment?
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>>169784419
It's always f2p friendly. You have ~20k vials worth of cards and you're going to have about 25k worth in the next xpak which is enough to build a playset of most decks. You can make a single deck pretty fast if you're not particularly concerned about being able to play meme decks or lower tier decks. We'll see if cygames avoided printing more OP auto-includes like soccer mom.

>>169784478
Then maybe you should post your motherfucking legos+golds so we can fucking salvage something. Enjoy learning all about the bug.
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This went 0-3. Fuck.
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>>169784339
>>169784413
Midrange Sword was the true cancer of DE and had above 50% winrates against every other deck in the game, DE Haven was annoying to play against, their decks were cheap, so they were a very common matchup in shitter brackets, but they had NOTHING on midsword
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>you get along with a goblin princess
>she brings you to introduce to her mum

What now?
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>>169784558
When Tempest comes out, you'll be able to open it.
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>>169784602
>How do you want your dead draws
>Just 0-5 me mac

>>169784643
I spark the holy promethium I haul with me
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>>169784620
Isn't midrange deck coming back to life now?
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>>169782843
They were going to lose so they just play bahamut. Kind of like if you are losing as blood you just kill yourself with wolf or dire bond.
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>>169784602
>2 monika
>floral
>2 blitz
>Frontguard, fangblade and aurelia

Maybe you're just bad.
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>>169784679
I think it's just a fade.
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>>169784602
>9 1pp/2pp cards
>of those only 7 followers
rly makes u think
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>>169784643
If this is what normal goblin females look like, does that mean Erika is Gobu's mother?
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>>169784643

>Goblin Mage will turn green when she gets old

How horrifying.
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>>169784597

You wanna see em? Here they are.

Not pictured is Satan and Bahamut obviously.
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>>169784516
Tam Lin doesn't re-stack the hand though, which is the crucial part.
And I get that it's budget. All I am really getting at here is more or less just that telling someone to spend 2400 vials on Roaches for a deck that sucks without an additional investment of 10 000 vials will probably do them more harm than good.
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>>169784643
Maybe this set. Lots of goblins this set for some reason. Expecting the other neutral legend to be the goblin god or something.

>>169784802
>goblin females get green as they get older
Screaming.
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Crystalia Erin looks really solid. 4/6 ward heal 3 for 6 pp or 6/8 rush ward heal 3 for 8 PP. Better Fairy Beast if your opponent doesn't have DoD.
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>>169784643
She's still pretty cute to be honest.
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>>169784902
Fairy Beast got powercreeped hard. That's another crazy Ward for Forest. If they print a good wincon for a Control Forest, it's CForest time. I can't wait.
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6pp enemy followers only aoe polymorph that adds burn is exactly what rune shitters lacked, right?
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>>169784812
Plug in the wind god at least and hope you run over them in time

>>169784858
They have to learn some time
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Cerb, Sharon, RoB hero and friends are capturing the souls of underworld escapee sinners right now. What're you up to, anon?
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>turn 1 Skull Beast
>turn 2 Spartoi Soldier
>both get killed
>turn 3 goblin zombie
>turn 3 4/5

It's a really steep curve, but hey, a 4/5 on turn 4 for Shadow!
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>>169785004
Imagining a threesome with Charon and Cerberus
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>>169784984
Fairy beast often heals 6-8 against me though.
They do, it's wolf queen with a roach burst finisher
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>>169785004
WHERE ARE MY FUCKING CHARON SLEEVES FUCKING CYGAMES.

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>169784984
Cforest would be a control deck that can consistently win against Dshift. I hope the legends will have synergy with Wolf.
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>>169785056
Fairybeast doesn't have ward though so the damage that Erin prevents by taking damage comes into consideration too. Though you could still get burned down so calling it powercreep seems too farfetched.
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>>169784984
Tia, elder treant, Eirin, and demonic simalacrums is your win con
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>>169784990
>They have to learn some time
Sure. But simply building a Blessed Fairy Dancer deck or something would still give them a comparable deck yet with none of the investment.

I wouldn't recommend someone crafting 3 roaches unless they actually want to play Elf.
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>>169785004
Not playing a shit game that's for sure.
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>>169784986
Its basically winter caprice + burn damage. I don't think any rune deck will run it. Winter caprice is never used.
>>
Anyone having problems with the new patch in iOS? I can't seem to connect to the game
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>>169785132
I think healing and ward can be seen as more or less the same in the early game, however at 5/6 cost healing and ward are really different in terms of what they save you from
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>>169785174
I was having problems and re-isntalled the game
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>>169785154
You can't always reroll out of your win x forest dailies and roach is future proof.

>>169785161
It's gotten some play as a board nerf/last word or effect clearer.
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Anyone can concede?

71474
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>"Use me, gobu..."
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>>169785161
Doesn't winter caprice do your followers too? This only does enemy followers and up to 5 damage is pretty big.
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>>169785095
If you think wards stop dshift tell that to my frontguard + aurelia + gelt ward combo getting destroyed by triple dshift on turn 7
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Fuck you, Satan.
Astaroth was the only card I needed last turn to win.
Next turn it was the only card which would make me lose. And of course I got it the next turn.
Fucking cancer.
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>>169785220

interasdin. Alright thanks anon
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>>169785274
Roach and Liza destroy Dshift.
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>>169785250
>Transform each follower into a Snowman.
Yes. It was basically only used to reduce incoming damage and to fuck with effect/last word shit though
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>>169785056
You heal less but you develop a Ward. Sometimes Fairy Beast isn't playable since it doesn't save you even with a big ass heal.

I don't know about wolf queen but I'd like to, the card is fun.
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>>169784902
>Crystalia Erin
Erin! Erin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WbDYqudxs8
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>>169784643
>Gobu will grow up into this
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>>169785227
Gobu is made for bullying, then consoling to make her think you were just joking, and then bullying relentlessly again
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>>169785310
Fiery embrace 0pp ;^)
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>>169785284
Servant should be removed.
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>>169781819
>STORM
>BANE
>WARD
YOU NAME IT
>>
anyone else hating that the next expansion is coming so early.
I would have liked building up my collection more before having to invest into new packs.
hope this doesnt end up like HS were you always get stressed out having to craft all the top tier cards to be able to play good decks
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>>169785224
Thanks.
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>>169785284
Shoulda charged your crystal bro

>>169785383
Learn to arena shitter
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Netdecked "midrange" sword carried me to masters, doesn't even feel like I did much
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>>169785383

>only main Shadow
>new expansion comes
>always have vials for the new cards

It's never been a problem for me.
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>>169785383
desu i have complet collection of all cards so is cool for me early expansions.

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>>169785383
I'm still winning with polyphonic ramp. There were always be some raw power creep cards like nep or albert but for the most part you'll be able to make do with tech choices and good plays
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New discard dragon card is scary as fuck, if you evolve it, that's a 8/9 for 5. That's Atomeme-tier danger level.
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Do you people ever craft meme cards, or do you just happen to pull them?
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>>169785497
Dies to removal. ;)
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>>169785449
>all cards

Whale? 1k+?
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>Have a good amount of health
>He has a tiny 2 attach follower I can't clear
>The only card that could kill me is Astaroth's Reckoning

>It's the fucking top deck

CUNT
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>>169785497

End of turn, chap.
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>>169785497
>>169785558
It seriously doesn't do much against Shadow for example that dragon has the most trouble with anyway.
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>>169784643
I'd be her king.
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>>169785559
only the one time deal.

i'm playing this game since the release
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>>169785576
5/5 ward for 4 has some questions for you, fag.
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>>169785595
do you play arena or how is this possible?
lucky packs?
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>>169785497
If only people had ample cheap hard removal in virtually every single deck with an approximately 85% chance of having it or at least a cheaper damage removal to use with an evo trade....

>>169785521
Pull. I don't have the collection for it.
I'm getting really close to crafting flute, zirnitra and wym spires though.
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>>169785571
It doesn't matter, that's a 6/7 on T5, it can answer and survive almost anything played on T4 or even T5. Goblinmount Demon is the only card able to survive 6 damage.

It can still threaten 8 damage next turn, it has to be answered.
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>>169785595
Daily deal every day...so around 250usd? I spend around 130 and i only have around 70% doing the daily deal since november.
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>>169785521
I only craft meme decks if only a few golds are needed. I don't think anyone here is crafting Skullfane for fun unless they have a bunch of vials for some reason.
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>>169785646
lucky packs is a thing for me

and yes some arena per week
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>>169785646
Going 4/5-0 in arena really makes a difference in your weekly vials gain

>>169785660
Dragon doesn't have the draw to deal. Most of its answer cards are cheap which are what you're discarding. and once you're in topdeck country you're dead
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Blood is dead
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>>169785646
Dunno mate, haven't dropped a dime and have everything besides Rune stuff because fuck Rune and I've only played for 4 months.
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>>169785730

>1/4 ward is bad

Kindly off yourself.
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>>169785676
One time deal only 5usd
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>>169785639
How infuriated would the king be to come home to his royal chambers only to find his queen riding some human?
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>>169785730
That card is meant for bloody mary combos. Turn 7 bloody mary + ward. Turn 8 blood mary + dire bond, turn 9 bloody mary + soul dealer or 2 of these wards. Gg no re.
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>>169785435
Also is this ok? Think I could do better if I haven't played haven
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>>169785730
overstatted as fuck
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>>169785789
He could probably kill 5 of them without an issue to be honest.
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>>169785730
>utterly rapes Elf
>this somehow kills the Blood
No, not really.
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>>169785821
Master in 700-800 wins is average. I did 775. That's alright.
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anyone have the rob art of heavenly aegis? I cant find it.
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>>169785567
>Have lethal

>He drops the second Khawy + Soul Conversion

FUCK CUNTS

ALL THIS SHIT FROM HAND

BULLSHIT
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>>169785730
If only Blood had a flood behomoth to turn that chip damage into real kill
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>>169785764

>for 2 life points
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>>169785846
Killing his wife's boytoys?
I'd suspect some pretty serious marital struggles looming.
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>>169785890
>2/1 2pp storm is bad cuz it deals 2 dmg to u :ddd
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> It's a "Draw no Odins against Shadowcraft" game.
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>>169785821
I have 753 and I'm still in AA1. You're fine.
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>>169785890
Have you ever played a card game before? Phyrexian mana? Life tap? Does using life as resource not make any sense to you?
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>>169785890
>saves you from at least 2 damage anyway
>you still get to hit the enemy and hide other followers behind the ward
Nah it's shit
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>>169785967
are you me?
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>>169785890
>pay 2 health for a card which can't be properly taken care of in one turn
Damn... that card sure is unplayable...
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>>169786010
Turn 2 Imp is gonna be suffering.
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>>169786000
Did you try to meme with Dirt decks for a while?
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>>169785335
gobu is an elf retard

the goblins just kidnapped her and raise her as one of their own
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>>169786059
i pretty much do everything in ranked even JO dragon
>>
So are they gonna do something about the extreme advantage of going second in take two?
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>>169785993
I play poker ;^)
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I wanna get my sleeves guys
pic = neutral + forest (all, bronze to legendary)
Vials = 0 (that's the problem)
send help ;_;
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>>169785227

Nerfs can't keep me away from the Gobu team.
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>open single pack that I got from T2
>1 Lego, 3 Silvers 1 of which is animated

My luck is way too good at card packs
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>>169786137
>not cutting your fingers every time you make a mistake
>>
>>169785890

>play it turn 2
>play healing angel turn 3

Stupid chinese cartoonposter.
>>
>>169785383
Dunno how you end up like that. I've been playing since Steam release, have spent less than 10€ and have close to 90% of the cards in the game.
Many of the missing ones are trash golds I vialed like Furiae. Also including cards where I only have 2 copies like Satan, it's not like there's any deck than runs 3 anyways. Got 3k rupies and 5k vials in the bank for next expansion.

End of brag.
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>>169786079
I hope they also rape her ass.
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>>169786163
here >>169784323

do the changes that you feel
>>
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE 1/4 WARD?
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>turn 4 Atomy
Uh, shadowbabs?
>>
Goblin Princess looks like a good nep nep card for the newest 2578 meme
>>
>Want to save gold for next expansion
>Literally can't play the game since last patch because it crashes literally every 30 sec

THANK YOU CYGAMES!
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>>169786408
is on mobile? you should reinstall desu
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>>169786370

>turn 4

Pffft.
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>>169786289
>5k vital

Lmao.
>not 20k+

Should have save those piercing rune and feena boi.
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>>169786437
Yea yea I already reinstalled and cleared cache at least 50 times, I'm not retarded, still not working.
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>>169784365
Please use alt+26
→ looks much better than ->
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>>169786368
That or rite of exorcism.
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>>169786370
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>>169786289
I must be unlucky with the packs. I also started with the steam release, play arena when i get a free ticket and bought 2 times the 500 crystal pack when it was on sale. i never opened good legendarys like daria, tia, albert and so on and had to craft them myself.
I don't like to vial bad legendarys even if I don't use them, you enver know if they could end up being good.
so ye this expansion coming this early makes me nervous.
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>>169786485
hope you can do fine
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>>169786296
Vials = 0
>do the changes that you feel
I feel nothing. I'm dead inside
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>>169786485
Its buggy on my tablet nexus 7, i can play on it but it randomly close the game when im playing. Not sure if its because its rooted or not. My other phone s7 work fine though.
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>>169786368

Literally any 3pp card that deals damage from Shadow + a attack from a suicide follower

Double blazing breath because Dragon loves to meme apparently
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Is this where I stop?
This doesn't seem like a fun thing to do in the current cancer meta.
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>>169786581
>i have to netdeck 100% or i cant play

Just use Cynthia you cuck.
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>>169786720
Once you hit trial you can't derank 50000 at all so its pointless since you are going to be playing master players regardless.
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>That wording on Haevenly Aegis
There has to be some mistake
It's literally Progenitus
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>>169786289
Personally I went on a 60 pack no lego streak after opening all my free packs in my first week of playing back at steam release.
I could never keep up with my legos and DE is the first expansion where I'm somewhat satisfied with my pulls.
I also didn't know about rerolls before it was too late

I crafted 2 Cerb, 1 Otohime, 1 Luci, 1 Odin 1 Lotf, 2 Dorothy and 2 Neps.
>>
>>169786794
It's slow and doesn't have a Nephtys to pull it out
>>
>>169786396

>actually can get the based 4PP 5/5 ward

The problem is she has to contest with both Cerb and GMD. Definitely goes well with coco & mimi buff, though.
>>
>>169786597
I unrooted my phone and it still crashes immediately. I'm pissed
>>
>>169786845
>DE

meant RoB
>>
>>169783328
Wait, wtf? I can't believe Cygames is actually putting this out.

There's no reason to ever use this guy now. He's totally useless.
>>
>>169783275
yes
>>
>>169786794
No it's not

As far as we know it's literally unanswerable and unaffected by anything, whereas Progenitus dies to normal mass removal

It's like how a small child would design an "unkillable" card
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>>169787017
2 more stats for 2 more PP :^).

Seriously though I wish that at some point they'd remove completely obsolete cards from the game but I know it's never going to happen.
>>
>be playing dshift on mobile
>turn 2
>crashes
Guess it means cygames doesn't want me to play the game at all
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>>169786721
>>
>Heavenly Aegis
>9PP 8/8 10/10
>any damage this follower receive becomes 0
>unaffected by other cards' effect
What the fuck dude?
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>>169787017
Glacial doesn't hit allies.
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>>169786845
>i craft otohime

I'm so sorry.
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>>169787191
LITERALLY UNKILLABLE
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>>169787191
A slightly better mordecai because haven has to always 1up shadow.
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>>169787191
I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE
>>
>>169787124
It costs fucking 9 and the only thing it does is be big and unkillable, the one thing this game does right is make expensive shit actually worth using.
>>
>>169787191
dshift kills you on turn 8
seraph kills you on turn 9
nep... attacks with morde on turn 9
everyone else can bahamut it
>>
Anyone have a good Reaper list?
>>
>>169786289
I have been playing just over two months now and I'm Masters and have most achieves and almost every card I want. I only bought 1 premade. Game is way too generous.
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>>169787124
>Progenitus dies to normal mass removal
>:^)
But seriously if what you say is true, then it's actually stronger than Prog, except for the reshuffle on death, but you can run more than 1 so who cares.
It is ungodly slow though so it won't see play if it doesn't synergise with Sun.
>>
>>169787362
>everyone else can bahamut it

Read again.
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>>169787362
Except baha doesn't kill it.
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>>169787362
>bahamut it
Try reading mate.
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>>169787362
>everyone else can bahamut it
>unaffected by other cards' effect
LITERALLY UNKILLABLE
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>>169787148
>2 more stats for 2 more PP :^).

Learn to count, dumbo

>>169787214
>Glacial doesn't hit allies.

Say that again you fucking retard bitch

I always secretly wish I could personally kill any idiot that talks to me.
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>>169787424
It works with sun, hope you like a undying ward.
>>
>>169787442
>>169787447
>>169787451
>>169787432
it does

so does themis because they are board clears they don't target it specifically
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>>169787214
He does
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>draw 2 legendaries in 3 packs
>Fifth Alberto and Fourth Atomeme
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>>169787424
>it won't see play IN THE CURRENT META
fixed.

I like when people speculate this based on what's playable now and not what is going to come. We don't know 90% of the new cards still and as far as we know, we can get a new non seraph non amulet Control Haven or something. It just adds more options.
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>>169787528
Aegis doesn't talk about targeting.

>unaffected by other cards' effect
>unaffected by other cards' effect
>unaffected by other cards' effect
I'll repeat myself
LITERALLY UNKILLABLE
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>>169787528
Doesn't say target anywhere in the card.
It's just straight up complete immunity to anything.
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>>169787524
Has that been confirmed?
The wording implies it can't be affected by ally effects either like Valhalla or Sun.
If it were it's an autowin against everything that's not Seraph if you can get it out, and with the stall Haven has, it's possible.
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<Aberrant Lightning>
Rarity: Gold
Type: Spell
Class: Runecraft
6 mana
Transform all enemy followers into Scorched Rats.
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>>169787528
Mate, it doesn't have hexproof.
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>>169787574
Except the bottom text says bane might be able to kill him
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>>169787528
Never said targeted effects. It said card effects.
It themis could kill it then it could get ward from Sun Guardian.
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>>169787528
Unaffected by card effect =/= cannot be targeted. It's a legendary for a reason.
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>>169787540
I don't have a single Cancerbert, so I'm stuck only being able to do Sword quests in T2.
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>Make a bullshit Haven legendary, Seraph, in DE
>"Just use this expensive Neutral legendary, Odin, bro"

>Make a bullshit Haven legendary, Aegis, in ToG
>"Just use this expensive Neutral legendary, Zeus, bro"

Hmm.

Guardian Sun Aegis is going to be "so much fun".
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don't tell me elite 2 bots don't cheat, lol

two aurelias in one turn, not like it helped her though

also funnily, i haven't known that the enhanced albert died if he killed khawy even though he didn't take damage the first turn

imo elite 1 erika is more scary
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>>169787574
>>169787615
>>169787591
>>169787620
>>169787629
it's just a beefy aurelia
you guys are fucking morons
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>>169787610
<Scorched Rat>
Type: Follower
1/1
At the start of your turn, deal 1 damage to both leaders.
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>>169787545
Aegis is a pretty nice control wincon, live until you can drop it then proceed to punch the other guy to death with it.
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>>169787504

completely obsolete
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>>169787504
1 more attack
1 more defense

2 stats, are YOU retarded?
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>>169787191
T2 gets even more fucking random I WIN cards...
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>>169787617
>Except the bottom text says bane might be able to kill him
What the fuck?
Bottom text is just giving an example that destruction and banish isn't effective to it.
Unaffected to all other card effects mean it's just immune to everything, including bane, banish, destroys that targets and that doesn't, basically literally everything.
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>>169787659
>guardian sun aegis
>unaffected by other cards' effect
What does it mean?
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>>169787610
Why isn't this a Bloodcraft card? I really don't get it.

At least Baphomet is sexy.
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>>169787659
I liked Darksteel Colossus and this is basically the same thing so I'm on board.
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>>169787676
Screencap this retard
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>>169787749
Read the text in the yellow box, silly
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>>169787659
>Make a bullshit Rune legendary, Daria, in RoB
>print no cards to counter it
Be fucking glad counters exist at all you dumbass
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>>169787808
I am screencapping you in fact

even Necrosin can deal with this trash card
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>>169786370
>bringing an atomy to a tyrant fight
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>>169787659
Honestly we can't be sure that it's even affected by bane at all. It is a card effect after all.
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>>169787191
>drop it with Guardian Sun
>instawin
This can't be correct.
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Okay, half you guys can't even read fucking cards, holy shit.
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>>169787808
Almost forgot. Thanks bro.
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>>169787757
Because its actually good. Bloodcraft isn't allowed to have good cards.
But we can't have the deck they shilled for months to be the deck for brainless idiots to faecroll to masters with suddenly have counterplays, so they promptly give Daria something to remove all those pesky wards.
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Are you ready to pray to the heavens next expansion?
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screencap all bullshit in this thread.


My turn : blood will be """""""""""""""good"""""""""""""
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>>169787823
>unaffected by other cards' effect
>bane might be able to kill it
What the fuck Cygames? It isn't unaffected by other cards' effect, are these people retarded or something?
Just wait for it to actually released for proper rulings.
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Isn't Aegis better wincon than Seraph since you don't need adding trash cards like Prism Priestess, Healing Prayer and Sister? You don't lose to Dirt and Odin too.
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I bet only 20 cards in total see play
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>>169787730
No, when you say 2 more stats, it means for example, a 4/4 becoming 6/6

Only a fucking retard would think that equates to 4 more stats

Don't fucking try to bullshit your way out of being stupid

You're done, niggertits
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>>169787757
>At least Baphomet is sexy

dem cute pigtails <3
i think he is a tsundere

btw, baphomet was derived from corruptem muhammad, so it's like, not very politically correct :3
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this heavenly aegis card would be amazing against dshift, weren't for its cost
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>Aegis
>Can't be AFFECTED by OTHER cards

So from this we can speculate the following
>Only Aegis can kill Aegis potentially
>You can't buff Aegis other than evolve
>Sun doesn't work with it
>Bane might work as it's not a card, but it is an effect
>Transform effects like Lily or Petrify don't work either
Anything I'm missing?
Hope we get official wording on it
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>>169787859
You're right it isn't.
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>look up dragoncraft decks
>find ramp decks without storm creatures
>"favorable matchup against daria"
>it still loses to random daria face damage, because spells
Why do people even bother trying to beat Daria with taunts and nonsense like imprisoned dragon, when you literally have the same winrate as if you went full ramp & storm? You sacrifice winrate against other control decks, and will still lose half the time to Daria anyway. Seems like a waste to me.
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>>169787883
I never stopped praying.
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What made them think Zeus was worth 10PP compared to Bahamut or Satan?
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>>169787879
Blood does have good cards though. It wasn't even three months ago that the entire thread bitched about a 1/3.
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>>169787942
if all cards see play this means everything was powercreeped.


stop saying bullshit crybb
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>>169787939
Aegis is slow, it takes 2~3 turns for it to win, Seraph wins on the turn after you play it regardless of board-state.
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>>169787359
Then it's either too slow for the meta or it's good enough to end games in a completely unfun and uninteractive way. Top tier threats should be hard to answer, but if you make them literally unanswerable then you end up with DShift. Apparently Cygames actually prefers DShift to drawn out control games and decided to add more of that experience to the game.
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>>169787842
My dick exists to counter your mum

Hah!
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>>169787935

The rule text has nothing about the bane able to kill it. It could be just some inept writer doing the writings.

Else, it's a shield and spear talk if bane can kill it yet destroy can't.
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>>169786845
>Personally I went on a 60 pack no lego streak
80+ here, going for 100+ before the next set comes out.
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>>169787998
>It wasn't even three months ago that the entire thread bitched about a 1/3.
>/svg/ being retards means Blood has good cards
Kek
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>>169787996
You fucks cried about baha being shit before release, just shut up and wait for actually smart people to tell you what to think.
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>>169787978
Saha ramp have tons of healing effects and effective ways to clear board + godly trade with luci + saha.

>>169787998
>bitched about a 1/3.
this is why blood is don't have good cards no one care about this shitcraft
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>>169788020

Seraph requires you to build your deck with cooldown reducing cards, though.
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>>169787918
>How to design a Bloodcraft card 101
>take slutty, half naked demon from Shingeki no Bahamut
>copy paste it in a Shadowverse card portrait
>give it a cool/overpowered effect
>BUT WITH A TWIST!
>you have to be in vengeance to use it, otherwise you take X damage (X can vary from 2 up to 10)
>voila, the Bloodcraft card is ready to ship
>now you can go back to designing more broken shit for Rune and Haven
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>>169788091
It is shit. Too easy dealt with at the stage of the game.
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>>169787939
Seraph is an autowin on turn 9 if you get the cards
Aegis will take a few turns to win you the game

If he does work with Sun then it's fucking retarded and is an autowin against everything except AWC like Seraph.
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>>169787973
Aegis vs Aegis is an immovable wall meats unstoppable object. They'll just deal 0 damage to each other.
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>>169788103
>clear board
>oh look more spells hitting your face
>you're dead anyway
Saha/Luci is only really good against traditional aggro decks that have to actually do damage with creatures, it's pretty irrelevant against Daria
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>>169787996
>compared to Satan
Bahamut I could undeerstand if you're completly retarded, but in what reality is Zeus even comparable to Satan? Its a completly different kind of card.
And Zeus is disgustingly strong, he's gonna be the final nail in the coffin to make the DragonRamp Saha the new meta cancer unless the meta speeds up even more.
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>>169788157
Yeah but it says OTHER cards.
Aegis is the same cars as Aegis.
So Aegis can kill Aegis.
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>>169787978
>full ramp & storm
A lot less consistent, what are you going to do when you failed to get some Oracle or Fervor? Might as well stall.
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>>169788103
Are you typing like a retard because you have no arguement? The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
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>>169788149
There are people bitching about the 2pp 1 4 ward, this remember me about other 2pp overstatted card

>>169788184
you should play the game to understand the deck
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>haven gets another thing that's not affected by themis only this time it can actually hit back

Epic, simply epic Cygames. Everyone should really just themis it, bruh.
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u jelly, cunnybabs?

not only will we get a brand new expansion with DOUBLE the amount of legendaries that precious ones had, no no no, we also get a FREE hero portrait and 100 gold, 100 dust and 2 packs worth of LOG-IN REWARDS

meanwhile u guys are getting jewed by new content releases every month LOL
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Just played against a Havencraft with Garuda, Tribunal and Sunlight. Looked interesting, is there some idea behind it?
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How the FUCK is a 6/4 2pp fair????
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>>169788021
>wanting games to go long
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>>169788020
But you need to commit slot for 9 bad cards in your deck for Seraph. You don't need to do that for Aegis.
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>>169788270
I'm high AA and have most of my games played on dragoncraft, my personal experience is that the ramp decks that don't use storm are far more inconsistent
inb4 "lol ur bad"
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>>169788278
yes the second worst craft don't need good cards
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>>169788296
>2 packs

wow
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>>169788157
They're both the same card technically
Though from a coding (and design) perspective this makes sense.

>>169788114
Aegis is a turn 9 do nothing and Haven can't accelerate to that like Ramp can to afford to drop Satan.
The reason SunSatan works is because that turn 10 you still erect a ward and actually enable Servants to become very strong cards instead of dead draws.

The only scenario you can afford to drop Aegis is if you're covered with wards or stuff like Tribunals disrupting their plays, and even after that it's just a beefier Morde that can't be Odin'd, so it's a doomclock that can be slowed down by wards and heals.
>Can't be affected by other cards' effects
Is ward an effect, can it just ignore wards?
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>>169788331
>I'm high AA
>high AA
>AA
>high
Hahahahahaha
No wonder there are so many idiotic shitters here who offer their completly unfounded opinions when they actually think AA-anything is "high" in a game where every moron can faceroll to Masters in a month.
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>>169788249
It also says all damage taken is reduced to 0, but then it should ignore that cards effect. But then it should negate the negation of the damage negation.
It's a never ending chain. Really interesting desu.
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>>169788296
>literally autistic dinos
I don't have any skin in the game, but my god Hearthstone art is awful. They make fun of Shadowverse's weeb art, but at least weeb art is drawn by adults, Hearthstone looks like the scribblings of a 5 year old.
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>>169788330
?
Healing Prayer and Hallowed Dogma aren't bad and can be used on any of your other Amulets
The only arguable thing is the bitchmade 3/2 follower that lowers countdown by 1 I forgot her name and you only really take her for consistency sake, and also not 3 of them
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>>169788296
HS doesn't have login rewards?
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>>169788296
how can people who are above 3 years old play hearthstone?

don't they feel ashamed?
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>>169788331
>my personal experience is that the ramp decks that don't use storm are far more inconsistent
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>>169788296
>2 FREE packs
HOT
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
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>>169788341
>second worst craft

That's not blood or even dragon though. Also it was strong as fuck in DE and can easily become strong again so no need to play the victim.
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>>169788389

It has to deal with wards, but you can just themis away a board if that's a problem.

>implying they won't bring new removal to the game for ToG

And then there's bahamut too.
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>>169788324
>latham
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>>169788331
>AA
>means anything
lol
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>>169788397
Do you have a mental disorder?
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>>169788492
Aegis shrugs off Bahamut.
We still have to see what other cards are released.
Odin was released in the same set as Seraph after all.
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>>169788327
>30hp and 67 armor
jesus fucking christ how horrifying
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>>169788296
Literally looks like some Pixar kids film tie-in lmao.
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>>169788296
2 (two) FREE packs? Godamn what price do you have to pay to compensate for that later? Did they half the lego drop rates or reduce the number of cards in each pack to balance it out?
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>>169787670
Yup. Elite 2 is shit in general. At least Elite 1 Erika tries to rush you down, and always has a good curve to do it pretty much.
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>>169788397
Not anymore
Apparently you lose 200pts if you lose to someone way lower rank than you.
The grind is slowly approaching SFV tier
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>>169788568

What I mean is that you can Bahamut and attack with Aegis, since it doesn't die and respawn like Mordecai.

It's a lategame beatstick.
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>>169788568
He means turn 9 aegis into turn 10 bahamut to clear wards.
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don't bully dinos they are cool
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>>169787670
Khawy is destroy effect not deal damage so it's understandable.
>>
>Crystalia Erin
>Erin
Going by the naming conventions of the other Elfs and Crystalias, isn't it much more likely that it should be Elin?
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>>169788654
Please be sarcastic, I can't this much shittery.
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>>169788662
>>169788671
Right, my bad.
As far as I see the only answer to Aegis we have at the moment is Timeless Witch, and even then you need to put her behind some wards so that you delay Aegis more than 1 turn.
But even then Themis/Bahamut will fuck you over.
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>>169788701
*dabs*
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>>169788331
>I'm high AA
howtospotaliar.jpg
>my personal experience is that the ramp decks that don't use storm are far more inconsistent
Your experience is probably shit.
Storm cards run in Saha Ramp are either Forte or Genesis, any other is trash. Genesis is more useful since it can survive after attacking threats and has higher attack, Forte is literally does 5/7 damage then die to removal/ward or you yourself die. Both bring incosistencies to the deck.
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>turn 10 Satan with wolf in hand m
>turn 11 play wolf then smash to face

What happens then? Wolf's effect won't trigger?
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>>169787670
>""""Elite"""" AI

He didn't even fucking trade into an obvious lethal with his Otohimeme
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>>169788773
what does "adapt" mean?
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>>169788773
>Dinosaurs
>adapting
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>>169788839
You Adapt to the shit meta
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>>169788731
"ri" is basically "li" in moon.
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>>169788839
It takes $5 from your wallet
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>>169787670
It does, but sometimes it bricks.
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>>169788825
elite 1 erika is good though

still the best bot imo

albeit rose queen arisa is scary too
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>>169788731
L and R in jap are the samr
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>you must be lying
>and AA means nothing
>oh master also means nothing either
>the best players in the game are literally the same as D players

I'm honestly not sure if this is just really advanced trolling. Do people really believe all these contradicting things?
>>
>>169788905
>>169788939
And yet Erin and Elin are two different names.
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>>169788839
From what I know, there's 9 possible buffs and you're presented with 3 of them at r a n d o m. Shit like +3 attack or getting a keyword like stealth or taunt.
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>>169787191
>What is this VG tier of powercreep?
We're going shit real fast.
>>
>>169788772
Changing the atk/def of the card works on Aegis. There might be a new card introduced in the set that will be able to debuff Aegis. Maybe the 2nd legendary neutral?

At the moment, the best card to "deal" with Aegis is Kaguya's amulet.
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>>169788327
I dont play hearthstone, what happen when you run out of cards?
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>>169788773

>RNG 3 out of 10 buffs

Lovely.
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>>169789085
You take damage based on how many times you've tried to draw "empty" cards. So 1, then 2, etc. If someone forces you to draw a bunch of cards with none left it can cause you to die real quick, but it's nothing like SV's instant death.
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>>169789085
The game keeps going and you keep taking damage equal to the card draws you weren't able to do.
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>>169788989
Being AA or low Master means nothing. Being high Master means something, it's that simple.
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>>169788989
>>169788331
Samefag.
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>>169788773
Is just a new word for RNG
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>>169788989
Masters means jack shit because even an idiot can grind to get to it
t: idiot Masters player
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>>169789167
But master is just a monthly score, so essentially you're saying, "The only good people in the game are those who are actively grinding rating RIGHT NOW in masters." I don't even necessarily disagree with this assumption (in fact I've said as much before), but then there are people who say masters has more meme decks than AA. Needless to say, there's some pretty big contradictions there.
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>>169788989
Ranks literally means nothing since you can just lie about it.
You being retarded means you're a low ranked shitter though.
>>
26 packs no leggos kill me
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>>169788296
we get 2 legends too though I think
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>>169789026
You're right about Kaguya, sadly all other debuff cards are temporary effects like Vines or pointless like Woodland/Pegasus

Here's something that came to my mind.
If you have Aegis and let's say Garuda on the board and you kill Khawy, does Khawy whiff on Aegis, or just target Garuda instead?

I'll have to make more webms like pic once this comes out, hopefully I'll get Aegis to get testing.
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Are we getting a new mechanic in ToG?
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>>169789167
>farming with daria all day for the rewards and e-penis means something
>>
If we use real arguments instead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
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>>169788823
I imagine it'd pull Astaroth's Reckoning because that's the highest cost card in the Apocalypse deck.
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>>169789260
Stop buying packs and save for the new expansion
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>>169786480
I just blew 15k on making a fun Sun & Moon Haven deck and rather save rupies than vials for the new expansion. Also was saving rupies to buy the 7 leader pack since I might as well at this point.

>>169786504
Arena is really the answer, I remember having literally all bronze and silver DE cards and a good selection of golds/legos from grinding during that one month were you got DE cards from arena.

>>169786845
I also found about rerolling too late. My pull was pretty meh, Tsubaki, Skullfane, Atomeme, 2 Fafnirs, Odin and a Beast Dom iirc. From playing other RNG drop games I just decided to go with it and spend the time others spent on rerolling just playing the game.
I crafted a shit ton; 1 AE. 2 Aurelias, 2 Cerb, 1 Tia, 2 Albertos, 2 Tsubaki, 3 Otohime , 3 Queen Vamp. 2 Moon, 2 Matriarch, 1 Odin, 1 Wolf, 2 Daria, 2 Satan.

>>169787408
Yeah, also hit Masters after 2 months, got two prebuilts just for deck variety later.
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>>169789150
>>169789151
But how will the game continue if there is no card to draw from? So if your fellowers die and you have no card in hand you can't do anything but slowly die?
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>>169789340
t. D rank.
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>>169789318
we don't know yet
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>>169789239
People in AA are less likely to meme since they can drop ranks and have a lot to lose. Low Masters will be more likely to meme since they don't have anything to lose.

I'd take seriously someone that hit top 1-2k master at the end of a season. It doesn't have to be this season in particular.
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>>169789318
no
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>>169789318
>>169789378

There will be no new mechanic. It's good though since they haven't done much for Clash yet.
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>>169789352
If both players are out of cards and have no creatures, whoever was at lower health will generally die first. That's why there's strategy about approaching 0 cards in Hearthstone. You tend to see players hold onto a few cards as it approaches the end (if it does), and there's a mind game of trying to get the other guy to overcommitt without dying yourself, and so on.
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elite 2 haven would be scary if it was a seraph with an ideal curve, with all the cooldown cards on lvl 9, with all the removals, a lot of healing etc

also i wonder if the new players even have achievements for defeating elite 1 bots, for some reason i think those will be gone in some time in the future if not already
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>>169789352
>So if your fellowers die and you have no card in hand you can't do anything but slowly die?
yes we just wait the death.

this is why hearthstone don't have wincon everything is just grind decks that take more than 20 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yADlhYicZC4
>>
>mfw animated Zeus
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>>169789318
>>169789383
We don't.
>http://blog.livedoor.jp/shadowv/archives/14379512.html
神々の騒嵐パックの特徴としては
・レジェンドが各リーダー2枚ずつ収録
・新規キーワード能力の追加はなし
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>>169789434
I don't have a problem with the lack of Clashes. It's an annoying mechanic on Veight too.
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>>169789318
No new keywords.
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>>169789346
I was going to, then I told myself I'd buy until I get one leggo. And here I am.
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>dragon gets another ugly reptile instead of a busty oneesan
Why is this allowed?
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>>169789290
>If you have Aegis and let's say Garuda on the board and you kill Khawy, does Khawy whiff on Aegis, or just target Garuda instead?
No idea actually, we'll have to wait till the actual card comes out to see.
>>169787191
Just Bane it bro.
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>>169789480
Blood has no good cards though.
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>>169789526
It could be a busty oneesan in hiding?
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>>169789395
You realize that most of us don't have enough free time available to grind out the games needed to reach top 1k right? I've beaten at least 50 people from the top 100 on ladder in DE/RoB, who are you to say that I'm worse than them at this game?
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>>169789526
bros before hoes
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>>169789526
Dragon has always been the "cool dragons & no girls allowed" class and it should stay that way
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>>169789290
>If you have Aegis and let's say Garuda on the board and you kill Khawy, does Khawy whiff on Aegis, or just target Garuda instead?
That's a good question. Another question is how random killing like Necroass/Lurching Corpse works. Can it whiff on Aegis too?

I'm hoping Khawy will kill Garuda 100% of the time. Not that I like Khawy or Necroass/Lurching, I just hate RNG with a passion.
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>>169789527
>Just Bane it bro.
>unaffected by other cards' effect
What does it mean?
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>>169789609
well memed
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>>169789526
If you squint really hard it looks like an anime girl.
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>>169789526
This is making made.

Quetz beed to be lucoa
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>>169782408
imo it's usually worse than the third seraph
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>>169789609
While I support this agenda 100%, is Forte an honorary dicks or something?
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>>169789628
>>unaffected by other cards' effect
Doesn't that just mean it's unaffected by Guardian Sun or Elena and the likes
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>>169789679
dorks don't count
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I hope shadow and dirt finally get an actual win condition in this expansion.
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>>169789661

Lucoa is fucking disgusting
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>>169789239
>but then there are people who say masters has more meme decks than AA. Needless to say, there's some pretty big contradictions there.
Whats the contradiction here? people who are actually good at the game try out many different kinds of decks to stay up-to-date on the meta.
This is self-explanatory.
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Time to shine
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>>169789689
That's just your wishful thinking desu.
Why should it be selective with it's card effects?
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>>169789771
You are disgusting
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Some of you guys are alright so don't go into unranked right now. I'm sick of albert faggots so I'm going to farm them with Daria.
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>>169789771
Don't be racist against mexican snakes.
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>>169789826
kys dubcuck
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>>169789826
Dubcuck.
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>>169789689
No, it means it's unaffected by literally all other cards' effect; bane, banish, destroy, any effect by follower, spell or amulet isn't effective to it, literally invincible.
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>>169789892
How would you get past it then? Are you retarded?
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>>169789872
>>169789880
>not using jap voices on steam and dub on phone

fags
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>>169789582
I don't discard an opinion of a non-1k master. If you don't spout stupid shit, I don't care about your rank. A AA/low Master player can be good at the game, since it's more about meta knowledge than actual skill.


Now, if you wanna prove that you mean business, you better not tell that you're """high AA"""" or a random sub 5k MP at the end of season, because anyone can achieve that, and you'll be laughed at for sure.
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>>169789892
that's your, incorrect, interpretation, man
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>>169789771
Fucking cow.
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>>169789628
from
>>169778567
>Since it cannot be damaged nor destroyed nor destroyed, it has a steep cost similar to Mordecai the Duelist. Its only disadvantage is not able to interact with the board without an evolution point, but it should be fatal for the opponent if it's played along with Guardian Sun. While it cannot be destroyed or banished, perhaps it can be dealt with Bane followers like from Lord of the Flies?
That's just a """"hint"""" for now and not actual confirmation tho.
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Why does Aegis have high HP if it takes 0 damage? Really makes you think...
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>>169789835

>3D Lucoa

You're only making things worse
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>>169789957
>but it should be fatal for the opponent if it's played along with Guardian Sun


That doesn't make any sense if it really works like we think it works.
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>>169789979
Aesthetics
If it were an 8/1 it'd give the impression that the godly being is actually very brittle and can crumble if anything goes wrong
As an 8/8 it gives the impression that it really is invincible
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>>169789957
I refuse to believe Guardian Sun works on Aegis. An unkillable 8/8 is fine in my book, an unkillable 8/8 ward is not.
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>>169789005
Would have been more interesting if adapt was like, you could slap a follower on it with 1 more cost and it would add its stats and abilities to it and so on...
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>>169789931
>"you need to play the deck to understand"
>give a brief description of my rating and that I spent most of my time ranking up playing that deck
>"LOL KYS FAGGOT WHY ARE YOU BRAGGING"
>???
Lesson learned, never ever reply seriously to someone in /svg/
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>>169789916
>How would you get past it then?
You don't. You prevent it from being summoned or go for the kill immediately.
>Are you retarded?
No, but you probably are.
>>169789934
Sure, EoP.

>>169789957
It says it's unaffected by other cards' effect, if it turns out that it can be affected by Bane, then it's Cygames being retarded.
>but it should be fatal for the opponent if it's played along with Guardian Sun
We even has a hint that they're being retarded here.
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>>169790056

That's why Zeus is here, Bane/Storm and ward

Dragon will be the chemo
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>>169790019
Why isn't there more fat fetish art of this show?
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>>169790104
Forbidden Treant does that already.
It also sees no play whatsoever despite the flexibility.
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>>169789345
>highest cost Forestcraft card
Not sure about that. But anyway, if the new expac would introduce new cards for control forest, I'll consider making Satan forest with a 0 cost silver bolt as a finisher.
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>>169789449
>i think those will be gone in some time in the future if not already

You're a fucking retard. You think Cygames is going to remove something that helps out new players?

Shut up bitch.
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>>169790158
Then what fucking effects is it unaffected by if it isn't actually unaffected by anything.
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>play this 2/1 on turn 5
>play sexy on turn 6, your only blood follower with attack more than 4

Will this save blood control?
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satan cat
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>>169790214
I have a positive win rate with Aggro Wolf in AA3. I actually grinded a few hundred rank with it yesterday, was great.

https://www.webmshare.com/1wddL
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>>169790192
Could you post the card here so I can see? I can't seem to find it in Google.
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>>169788823

Nothing. The doge only fetches forest card.
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>>169790323
Blood will never have good cards

N E V E R
E
V
E
R

read this >>169788149
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>>169790278
>7 damage
>wasting an evolution on a card that's going back to your hand
It's still a pretty good face damage or removal though.
Making Saha Ramp wasn't a mistake.
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>>169790323
I think it's going to be a meme.
Playing a 2/1 on turn 5 is a massive tempo loss even if you could recover 5 hp with sexy on the next turn.
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>>169790383
That's because I cocked up the name
My bad
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>>169790323
>blood
>good

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>169790369
>wards, wolfs, homecoming, silver bolts
>aggro
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>>169790430
7>5 so there!
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Who do you guys think this character is?

Looks like at least a Gold, if not a Lege, to me
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>>169790430
desu you guys should stop saying shit.
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>>169790432
Oh I see I mistaked the evolve for the basic form my mistake
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>>169790157
you are literally told that you are retarded by the whole thread

maybe its time to stop typing
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Elena just wrecked my Nepnep shit.
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>>169790514
>Raven
Loki most likely
If so a Neutral Lego
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>>169790323
you basically pass the turn 5
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>>169790502
Sorry I meant Wolf Bolt, I don't know why I said aggro.
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>blood will have a good Control deck


>>169790514
Is he Loki?
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>>169790565
Elana has always been strong this set.
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>>169790430
Still 2 atk point higher though, I'll probably still use him, I only run 1 anyway.
Dragon need another reliable ramp card though, Aiela or whoever she is, is too slow. We need an actually good ward too.

>>169790525
>whole thread
You're the retarded one, mate.
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I hope the two legendaries per craft thing is just a special quirk for this set and not a new standard for all future sets to come.

If it's just for this set then it's fairly understandable. Having all the pantheon cards being legendary kind of makes sense.
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New dragon is okay but too expensive
New ward for bloodcraft that deals damage to him; Nice meme
>play a card to protect yourself
>deals damage to you
Epic
Zeus is underwhelming with a boring effect

So why should I be hyped?
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>>169790632
>blood will never have a good deck

FTFY
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>>169790632
>>169790575
No. This is Loki.
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>>169790449
Oh, well that's not how I thought adapt could work. Maybe I did a bad job describing it.

Say you put out that Verdant Longneck for 5.
Next turn you slap a 6 cost follower on top of it and it adds it's stats and abilities to the Longneck's so its 5+X/4+X plus all abilities.
The turn after, you can then slap a 7 cost follower on it and now it's 5+X+Y/5+x+Y and so on.

If your opponent casts a spell or something that destroys a follower, it only destroys the latest follower you slapped onto it.

I dunno how good this would be in HS, but it seems like a fun idea to me
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>>169790723
don't know this is a CG i'm fine with this cards.
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>>169782002
>>169782419
samefag
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>>169790680
it's what I'm hoping for personally, 2 legos per craft per expac is too much

>>169790723
because there are only 3 cards out?
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>>169790723
Blood will never have good cards.
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>>169790730
>dragon will never have a good deck

FTFTFY
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>>169790137
I was just giving a neutral answer to >>169788989, chill.

Are you this guy?
>>169788331
SahaLuci is best against Daria, you can't exactly afford to play Forte/Genesis most of the time unless Daria is out of cards. But sometimes Forte/Genesis can be good against other control decks to pressure them.
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What is the worst class?
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>>169790680
If this is ToG's quirk, and new leaders was DE's quirk, what was RoB's quirk?
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>>169790880
>blooddragonshadowforestswordruneshadowhavanrune will never have good cards
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>>169790949
>what was RoB's quirk?
Enhance?
Clash too I guess.
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>>169790932
At the moment, Blood. 2nd worst is Haven.
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>>169790949
Enhance.
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>>169790932
Blood. It will never have good cards.
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>>169791028
>>169790997
Enhance and Clash? Didn't DE bring any new mechanics to the table?
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>>169789171
Yes and? I wish this board had ids. I wasn't trying to "hide" my identity, far from it. Congrats, you found me out with my posts that were intentionally referring to each other in a way making it clear I was the same person. Jesus christ...
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>>169791047
Refresh Evo Orbs maybe?
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>>169790514
Cu Chulainn, albeit a different art from his RoB card
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>>169790680
If anything, TotG doesn't need a new quirk

We need more clash cards as RoB had only a handful of them. Good Clash effects will encourage players not to make Solitaire decks
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>>169791047
"if another evolved follower is in play" effects I think.
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>>169791170
I think you mean encourage more aggro.
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>>169789526
They already got best girl last expansion.
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>>169791125
It's jp whale sleeves
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>>169791125
News at eleven
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Cygames please deliver Levin sisters for this expansion.
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>>169791170
On the contrary. Clash effect will encourage removal and as less trades as possible.
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>>169791206
It's too bad nothing ever came of her.
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>>169791206
>steel panty
What a slut
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>>169787854

tell me about your tyrant
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>>169791296
She's useful in face decks.
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>>169791274
Cygames can always put out some new followers whose Clash can also get triggered if they're hit by a spell.
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>>169791170
>>169791274
We need more rush cards for more interactive board play.
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>GameAI: Midsword is Tier1
What the hell is this shit about
Midsword is still bad and the deck they have up on their site is awful
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>>169791604
Agreed. Sword needs more cheap removal for easier turn 9 Albert Evolves.
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>>169791604
Hmm more followers that have both Rush and Clash would be the perfect solution.
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Medusa's effect should be Clash.
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>>169791743
say that to 10% of my ladder
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>>169791795
No. What we really need are cards with rush, clash and the Medusa effect.
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>>169791776
I never said anything about sword. Stop choking on dick and read properly before you reply.
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>>169791909
I hate that they had all these followers with the effect 'whenever this follower attacks' but then they just invented clash. They should have gone back and made clash work for all those cards too.
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>>169791972
Did Cygames ever make any buff for any cards?
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>>169791909
I would clash Medusa with my penis. And i would not turn to stone because i would be already rock hard, haha!
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>>169791972
The former works on face, the latter only when followers attack each other. They're fine this way.
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What the fuck is going on
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>>169791909
>should be clash
fuck no
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I want Aegis + Guardian Sun to work for that Rose Queen meta.
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do you often outlast the opponent when he plays satan, /svg/?

>outlasting satan with dirt by playing timeless + conjure guardian 3 turns in a row while wrecking him with ptp.
EAT SHIT SATAN, EAT SHIT.
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>>169791945
You also didn't say anything about any other class.
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>>169792065
He fucked up his recording software.
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>>169792171
I once got Dis'ed thrice and still come out on top with Bahamut + Razory Claw.
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>>169790157
>unaffected
PLEASE fuck off with this shit back to ygo you retard.
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>>169792181
Sword already has good amount of rush cards, so obviously I meant give the other classes more rush cards. I shouldn't be having to explain this.
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>>169792171
Just Bahamut and apocalypse deck is too slow to react.
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>>169792171
Not very often, no. Did fatigue him once in T2, though. Probably my crowning achievement in this game.
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>>169792249
LITERALLY UNKILLABLE

I hate Haven, but if I unpack this card, I'll play it. ToG fucking when
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>>169790435
Remember you can still evolve the goat to a 4 2, which should at least even out the tempo loss to some degree.
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>>169792407
>Play albert turn 5
>Blood plays a 2/1
>I get to hit you once more for 5
Sure man, really helps.
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>>169792249
No, you fuck off retard.
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Anyone have a cheap shadowdeck with no reapers?
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>>169792383
Just for being blood the card is not allowed to be good
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>>169792252
>so obviously I meant give the other classes more rush cards.
You didn't say that though. You can pretend you meant other classes and call me a retard all you want to you literally said you hope they give classes more rush cards.
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>>169792539
Do you have cerb? just add another vanilla 2pp
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>>169792482
Just because it costs 5, doesn't mean you play it on the 5th turn just like you don't play demonic strike on turn 4 like a retard.
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>>169792590
>i have to write everything out in detail for people who can't read between the lines
Use your brain sometime.
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>>169792539
>no reapers

Why would you do this?
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So is this new Angel Sword Aggro everywhere right now?
I'm trying to think up what decks would counter it.
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>>169792813
I've had success with Aggro Shadow against it.
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Ok. Aegis is one big follower.
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>>169792383
Health is just another resource, idiot. This is basically just the control version of the wolf.
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>>169792986
With that kind of stats and effect it should have 10pp. Even Zeus isn't that strong.
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>>169792986
For you.
>>
>see new cards
>dragon gets a brazen demoness discard version.
>shes useless because 5000 removals
Rip violet dragon you will forever be useless.
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>>169792749
>People have to read my mind when I say something in a broad sense and know that I meant there was some exceptions to my statement
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>>169792813
this shit?
>>
I guess Zeus can replace Genesis dragons in some ramp dragon decks.

Where else would it fit?
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>>169793047
zeus by himself is kinda underwhelming, need to use sahaq to show his true potential
>>
Hey guys, what happens if Cygames changes the rules for card creation so that you can only create a copy of a card if you already have a copy of it?
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>>169793047
Zeus has a big butt and can do things from the word go, he's basically Charlotte on steroids.
>>
27036
concede pls
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>>169793197
This would actually be cool.

people would need to stick with the game give to them
>>
>>169793082
>class obviously got good rush support this expansion
>obviously I must mean they should get more rush support next expansion too because that would be balanced right?
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>>169793079
>Rip violet dragon you will forever be useless.
Ramp. Ramp.
8/9 drop on turn 4.
>useless
Implying.
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>>169792383
2 self damage is nothing when you get 1/4 ward at 2 PP that barely anything can kill till evolve turn, control blood heals for over fucking 40 hp per game anyway.
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>>169793197
Their headquarters burns down.
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>>169793229
thanks dragonbro
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>>169792986
Can any of you weebs translate this guy?
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>>169792813
Csword is unbeatable
Most of forest decks are impossible to outvalue
Cblood is unbeatable most of the time
Dragon is hard if they go first and ramp t2
Daria with good opener (turn 5 daria) is unbeatable
Any aggro deck that vommits minnions on curve first 5 turns is unbeatable (eg blood and shadow)
>>
I can't believe Silver Bolt is a card that exists
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>>169793289
well when you say it like that.
make discard great.
I want to rain down the dragoon pain.
Give a follower that does. Last word: put a dragomancer rites on the field.
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>>169793289
People really underestimate the card. It can steal games by itself, it's really scary. It's like they never lost to Atomeme.
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>>169793090
Seems like it
I only encountered one but apparently it's everywhere.
I'm thinking a deck needs wards to survive the storms, board clears to survive the flood and heals to survive the pings/storms lategame.

Of the decks I have they all seem to miss 1 or 2 of those elements, but Saha Ramp or CSword seem to fit the bill the most.

>>169793474
Then why did you guys shit up a storm as if it's everywhere yesterday?
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>>169793474
So evertyhing is unbeatable?
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Why do people think storm haven is bad?
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>>169793568
Because Dorothy exists.
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>>169793250
>Please read my brain
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>>169793568
I'm high AA so my personal opnion worth more than actual gamepaly
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>>169793568
Like other midrange/tempo decks, it got fucked by daria.
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>>169793568
Is Storm Haven meant to be played like an aggro deck or a midrange deck?
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>300 points from rank up
>start getting matched exclusively against counters and mirrors
>get shitty fucking brick hands
>mulligan fucks you in the ass
>rng fucks you in the ass giving you useless draws and never top decks anything remotely valueable
>meanwhile the other player is blessed by gods with perfect curve
>miss lethals by 1 hp
>lose 1000 points since yesterday

Yeah, fuck this. I'm in AA0 forever
>>
Anyone got a link to the revealed cards? Besides on main site.
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>>169793662
>reading the meta and understanding balance concerns means you have to read people's brain
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>>169793654
>>169793675
>post PR nerf
>using Daria
>>
I think they just introduced an anti rope feature to the game.

I had an urgent matter to take care of and when I came back, the turn was already ending like 5 seconds after it started.

Cool.
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>>169793465
Try reading the thread.
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>>169793689
I know that feel.
I have been jumping between AA1 and AA2 for about 300 games.
I dont want to play a shitty unga deck or boring t1 deck.
>>
I thought it was 1 expansion every 3 months?

Why is Tempest being released so soon?
>>
I've grown tired of fps games and fast-paced stuff.
I want a slow and smart game - mindgames and stuff like that.

Is Shadowverse better than hearthstone? The cucks at /hgs/ told me that it's too late to start playing and I should wait for Gwent.
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>>169793758
How new are you?
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>>169791909
How would you even kill her?
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can you idiots please stop using vampy when you play control blood?
it fucks up my mulligan
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>>169793840
>Is Shadowverse better than hearthstone?
Yes.
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>>169793840
Its easier to get a good deck. But right now the game is dominated by aggro shit.
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>>169793840
It's not. It's very F2P-friendly, unlike kikestone.
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>>169793829
Because we got RoB at the start of January, ToG will probably available at the end of March.
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>>169793843
This isn't new? Weird because I've roped Dshift before and nothing of the sort happened.

So it's just against AFK then.
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>>169793840
read this.>>169781313
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>>169793904
>But right now the game is dominated by aggro shit.
No, it's not.
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>>169793904
>aggro
>good
B0? all my games end at t12
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>>169793550
no it fucks up all elfs, seraph and dshift
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>>169793904
>the game is dominated by aggro shit
your D rank experiences don't account for the entirety of the game my man
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>>169793840
>The cucks at /hgs/ told me that it's too late to start playing
it's never too late when you can reroll and get a t1 deck
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>>169793904
Daria isn't really aggro shit any good control deck with a good board clear will shit on it, Haven with Lion or Themis will make mince meat out of a Daria board.

Early spellboost minions like clarke will pose a problem though but you just need to survive until turn 6 which is doable.
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>>169793873
No
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>>169793754
>daria literally still 1st spot in tier 1 on game-ai after meta shift
bab?
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>>169793289
>8/9 drop on turn 4.
>follow up with Ace Dragoons
It will be a fun card.
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>have a cool idea for a new Cblood deck with axe+RD
>too tired to think about the deck
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I lost my first match just now to the piercing rune nerf since it happened, that took a while. 1pp after waifu cast, a hand with blademage + pierce for lethal but can't cast it after evolving waifu and hence not getting the blademage for 0.
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>>169792813
>>169793090
That's a midrange deck not an aggro deck. Even the game ai page says it's midrange.
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>>169792383
This card is super good for Blood, Forest always used to shit on Blood. You often want to take some early damage so you can get your midgame tempo plays with vengeance. Often you find yourself healing at full health anyway.
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>>169794194
>yurius
how dare you use the 2pp bronze 1/3 overstatted follower with an effect so overpowered it should've been a legendary

how many darias did you rape today
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>>169794359
None. I'm waiting for Blood to be good.
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>>169794318
It literally doesn't do anything to 2/2 cards.
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>>169793840
Hearthstone suffers from heavy RNG, too aggressive early game, and not newbie friendly at all.

I guess it's harder to get all the cards now than it was last year, seeing as there's soon 3 expansion to the game already, but it's certainly doable.
You get a shit ton of packs and gold right away from just being new, and that's excluding the single player rewards and the practice rewards. You can also re-roll with a phone I believe, so you can get a good start on your collection.
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>>169794413
>I'm waiting for Blood to be good.
I'm sorry.
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>>169794413
If he played Nep, would that trigger 13 damgae?
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>>169794143
>keep Daria's board clear all game
>still lose because 30 damage from hand with Crimson Sorceries, piercing runes, Demonic strikes and Blade Mages
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>>169794498
15 damage.
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Top 100 Face Dragon from last season
https://twitter.com/SANA4149/status/836865774929211392
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>>169794413
>foul tempest
Problem?
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>>169792986
We Yugioh now.
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>>169794498
>5 * 3 dmg
>+ revive mordekai for another 3
>13
Yes exactly 13 dmg anon
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>>169794317
It's a pretty aggressive mid-range deck though. But yeah I just tried it out, and the angels works well when playing defensively against aggressive 1 1s.
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>>169794520

Oh shit you're right, for some reason I thought Nep would only trigger one even though it makes no sense. Fucking nice.
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>>169794538
And there won't be enough shadows or PP for Death breath. If you khawy though, I can still Odin him or just Mary + Dire Bond
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>>169794520
I like how shit like cuckgel banish gets priority over "when a followers evolves" effects yet in this situation the effect from Yurias activates before the potential removal effect of Balor/Kamura.
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>>169781891
People were calling her useless except for cute butt and liquify-tier for much of the first month
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>>169793840
>too late
never too late. considering some new players have more leggos then i do
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>B ranks complaining about a fucking 9 mana beatstick
>No mention of 6 mana unconditional mass petrification
Shadow is dead, this isn't banish, so you can't tech le graveyard shift man.

They just gave fucking Daria an unconditional Calamitous that works regardless of HP. Not even a board full of immune sabers can protect you from Daria now. As for D.Shift, I'd love to see your "just ward bro" now. I'd cut my fucking left testicle on live air if they print an even remotely good counter to D.Shift, as in an actual counter card, not "just play aggro bro ;)))".
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>>169794670
Because Cuckgel's effect is happen because of his evolve, while "when a follower evolves" effect only happen after the evolve. Last Words take the last priority in Yurius's case.
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>>169794523
why did people start using the angel card that deals 1 dmg?
it's also in the midrange sword deck
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Does shadowverse ever do any sale events? Other than the 50 crystal daily deals?
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>>169781958
Up until the eve of release people were going on about how none of the RoB cards would dethrone broken Elana meta
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When are the new cards coming ?
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>>169794718
yeah Daria is gonna put that card in to counter shadow that is super strong against it
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>>169794718
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>169794776
Yes, we had a sale for Christmas and one for new year.
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>>169794776
They had one during new year.
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Any new sword cards? Plz?
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>>169794870
Tristan
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>It is not about luck
>literally every draft is like this
>half of average lego rate

What does it feel like to be a lucky person?
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>>169794783
a lot of these people lack self-awareness

he was probably one of the people saying that about elana before the expansion came out, also saying that bahamut would be unplayable because of haven's amulets, being a 10pp and dying to dod
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>>169794850
>>169794858
Do Nips celebrate Easter? I want a new sale
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>>169794718
>daria running calamitous
>daria running sigils

Are you literally beginner rank?
There was a time Dshift used to run 1 sigil and 1 calamitous but those days are over.
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>>169794848
6 mana gold objectively better Calamitous Curse that doesn't require earth sigil, doesn't banish, but "transforms", and works regardless of the follower's defense. It also turns followers on board into burn. It's a fucking AoE DoD that ignores hexproof and last word.
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>>169794910
Nothing in the thread about it. Any art and info?
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>>169794970
No its not running them, the issue now Daria and D-Shift HAVE a Calamitious they can actually run to negate all those pesky wards.
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>Cerb is a 5 mana do nothing 3/3

4pp Cerb buff when?
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>>169794952
Idea was probably because Elana Seraph was the most played variant. The thought process was probably that by the time Bahamut comes out Seraph should be on field so therefore Bahamut is useless.
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>>169794759
Yeah I don't get it evolve deal 1 damage seems pretty weak to me.

Angel of the word does the same thing on fanfare.
In comparison Haven has cudgel which banishes a 3 health minion and lion that deals 2 to all opponents followers as well as sledgehammer that just destroys any target.

Are other classes so starved for good evolve effects?
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Give me 1 (one) reason why Stratagem shouldn't cost 2
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Time to pray for earth rite to get some love this time.
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>>169794848
I think he means the new card that turns everyone into flaming rats.

If anything it would only help Dshit and Dirt more.
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>>169795041
mordecai for banner
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>>169795041
tristan
4 3
fanfare : if you have a commander summon tristan
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>>169795041
Tristan, Knight of the Round Table
Sword Bronze Follower - Officer
5PP
3/4
Fanfare: Gains "Last Words: Summon Tristan, Knight of the Round Table" if you have a commander in play.
Joey card when?
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>>169794970
That's the thing you fucking retard. This new spell doesn't require sigils, removes literally any fucking follower/ward/board state in the game, and has burn attached to it for good measure. You fucking D ranks think this won't be a staple in every fucking Daria?
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>>169795065
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>>169794523
>Griffon Knight
Why? With face dragon you already have very limited amount of cards on your hand and then you discard those?
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>>169795175
I'm serious senpai.

>playing aggro shadow
>have control of the tempo and the board due to lost of 1pp and 2pp followers
>turn 5 hits, i drop cerb
>literally do nothing else except hit with followers already on the board
>they take control of the board coz the tempo has inevitably shifted in their favour after what is almost a skipped turn
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>Lost to an emote spamming Elana Haven.
>RANK LOST
Fucking kill me.
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>>169789451
>13 min match just to lose on RNG in the end
This is beyond me
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>>169795159
it might be. If there's even a Daria left after the expansion.
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I wish arena had some sort of based match making. The game mode would be so much better.
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>>169794718
>9 mana invincible beatstick
>in a craft with amazing wards, healing and removal
What could possibly go wrong?
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>>169795264
more like
>drop cerb
>have 11dmg from hand ready to go
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>>169795119
Think about this rationally for a second. Why in god's green earth would anyone pick a cumbersome, slow mechanic like earthrite, over spellboost, the objectively best class mechanic in the game? Dirt isn't even the premier removal or ward deck anymore. Khawy.deck is better for wards, and all Rune decks just got a better AoE removal than Themis and Calamitous combined, without having to run the shitty slow earthrite package.
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CAGLIOSTRO CARD WHERE?
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>>169795152
He's alright. I hope we get more of the Knights from Arthurian legend though.

Arthur when?
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>>169795457
>drop cerb
>opponent instantly wards up

thanks senpai
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>>169795083
You have Teena as the neutral Dragon Warrior
The reason people use Lyrial is if you can hit face with her on an evo turn it's 5 damage, or 1 damage to ping off something crucial.
It's not Levi retarded so it seems underwhelming, but it's still more than most other cards get.
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>>169795418
>Still automatically loses to D.Shift
>Meanwhile the CURRENT best deck gets an AoE DoD that plays around last words for the same cost
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>>169795495
*DoD'd
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>>169794936
When you get to pick satan and olivia together.
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>>169795469
We already have Arthurian Light
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>>169795453
If you need a decent 3 drop follower, take the right pack. Otherwise I'd take the two situational cards on the left desu. Valkyrie's Spear is a 100% dead draw unless you happen to have a lot of Neutral followers (Like..X>4-5)
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>>169794448
More like 2/2s don't do shit to it. If you actually played Control Blood you would know how "meh" turn 2 normally is.
If you go first Vampiric Kiss is literally useless, even if they played a 1 drop you are wasting the heal.
If you play your own 2/2 Vampy / Unica, it gets fucked by Slyvan Justice / WSS. This is a 2 drop that can answer 1 drops going first without dying to removal.
If they drop their own 2/2 you can play your Vampiric Kiss for actual value or heal back up with Healing Angel.
Most of it applies going second, even though it's slightly less miserable.

tl;dr unconditional 2 drop that answers 1 drops, doesn't get fucked by removal and probably prevents more damage than you take from the fanfare
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>>169795495
Yeah nothing need ward in this game

>>169795469
We already have Arthurian light but i think that cygames can create a proper arthur like D-shift was for Daria
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>>169795152
Just what Sword needed. An infinitely floating 3/4 at turn 6.
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>>169795453
NEVER take spear
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>>169795418
N-nothing. Heaven i-is the w-worst class right now because we've forced literally everyone to run Odin with our cancer.
Also Dshift, look at muh Dshift. Seraph is a honest deck. :^)
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>>169795619
>complaining about shit this slow
You people have no fucking clue what makes a card good. Future none control Sword decks won't run a single card that doesn't have storm or rush.
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>>169793090
What the hell is the purpose of this deck?
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>>169795659
t.unga
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>>169795584
the reason people use lyria is because she can be combo'd with another 2pp/3pp card (depending on whether you went first or second)
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>5th retard aggro blood deck by nips in a row

what the fuck is wrong with them
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>>169795264
>they take control of the board coz the tempo has inevitably shifted in their favour after what is almost a skipped turn

Irrelevant, assuming you've been able to go face for most of those previous turns. You might have lethal next turn with Cerb's dogs. You might not even need Howl. Evolved mummy + Cerb dogs = 8 damage. If you run voices, same thing. Then you might have further burn damage in Demonic Strike or DoD.

You don't need to keep control of the board.
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>>169795619
>infinitely

Only once.
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>>169795036
It also damages your face as well
Meaning you can't use it when you're low on health unless you have Timeless out.

You also didn't mentioned how it clogs their board
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>>169795619
>infinitely
It just works once. Which honestly makes the card pretty shit since it's a 5PP 3/4.
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>>169794718
>>169795585
>mass petrification
>take 10 face damage the next turn if you use it against aggro
>5 from the rats and 5 from their effect
>if you use it against 1 fat control follower you just spent 6pp to do what petrification can do at 3pp
Yea I don't think it'll be a good card.
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>>169795716
Nep actually. My only sin is not wanting to brick my deck running Odin to deal with your fucking shit.
I respect Sun Guardian players because at least they don't rely on an opponent having a specific card to counter them but Seraph whores can go impale themselves oh her sword.
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>>169795808
there's just no room for it in any of the rune archetypes

>Daria makes the board her bitch, she has no use of clears
>Dirt has Calamitous Curse
>Solitaire is 2 turns away from winning by that point
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>>169795756
Yeah I know how it works senpai, I know it's about doing face damage in the first 5 turns and then bursting with cerb+howl turn 6. But just looking at Cerb as a card, she is a literal 5pp 3/3 do nothing. If her dogs were free I'd understand, but they cost mana too so she's actually a 7pp 3/3 with 4 damage worth of spells. That makes her about as good as Levi, but 4 mana higher cost.
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>>169795585
It only really fucks over Shadow.
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>>169795808
>>169795778
You do realize people have the CHOICE to play a card or not each turn, right? Why the fuck would you play it when you have a board, or against aggro? Daria either won or lost to aggro by turn 6, this card is completely a none factor in that match up. A single fat follower is never an issue for Daria to remove, or have you forgotton DoD exists? Fucking retards, I swear. Themis is shit too right? I mean it wipes your own board xddd
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>>169795742
No one likes playing Blood. People are just trying to get their Vampy emblems.
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>>169795716
You just like throwing around retarded words don't you?
Aggro does relatively ok against Seraph. Better than control at the very least.
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Can I get a concede please?
92497
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>>169795992
>don't play the card unless to win more
>it's literally a win more card that bricks your hand
Good job there.
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>>169795946
Cerberus is a pretty solid and good card. Admittedly she is merely "solid", which is why the comparison to Levi fails, Levi is hilariously degenerate. Yes with 4PP cost Cerb would be on par with Levi, but then it'd also be extremly degenerate.
And this game doesn't need more Levis.
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>>169795763
Oh. It's kinda shit then.
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Kinda feel like my Amelia's are doing much. What are possible replacements? She is 2x in my Csword deck.
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>>169795992
Sure go ahead, put BOTH DoD and that shit into your deck and brick please.
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>take any take2 class
>shitty cards, bad draws, get shit on by scrubs, le funny Khawy always on time

>take sword
>go 4 or 5 wins every time

They really have to fix take 2
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>>169795992
It's one-sided removal
And most decks will try for you not to have a board, especially if you're Daria

It's a strong card, hell it even answers Aurelias, Lizas and whatever untargetable bullshit Haven can vomit out, but I don't see Daria running it, bricks the hand and they have enough burn as is.
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>>169796140
3x Floral and Jeno are your 4 drops for all sword decks.
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cannunga win is cheat
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>>169796260
>people suddenly recommending floral when just a week ago they were unironically greentexting about her because she's a "tempo loss" :^)

Just shows you how much anyone actually knows.
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>>169795929
Dirt can be both screwed over and saved by the fact that Calamitous consumes a sygil.
On one part it frees up your board, on the other it might consume the only sygil you have that you need.
This is also unconditional as well, with the caveat of dealing substantial burn to both parties.
Of course this also leaves behind a bunch of tokens, whereas calamitous removes them from the game, denying shadows in the process.

I think which one will be run will depend on the meta really
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>>169796419
the meta change kiddo gobu was nerffed
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>>169796038
I think blood is the most fun class, just the vengeance mechanic is a little weak since you can be burnt down from 10 hp pretty fast in later turns.
I don't regret making control blood at all even though it's not top tier but it's alot of fun to play.
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>>169796260
Already got em, friendo.

Any other suggestions? Deck works fine it's just when I draw her, she's just "alright".
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>>169796419
piercing rune is no more
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>>169796467
Floral wasn't bad because of Gobbu "kiddo".
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>>169794635
Why do you think the shadow player needs to follow up with Death's Breath against blood control? He could just play a Hell's Unleasher or pass. If the blood player goes for the Mary+Bond combo, Nep just eats Mary and heals back 4 life. Odin can only kill a Morde. Imagine following up with another Morde to evol-kill Odin.
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>>169796419
Literally no one said she was a tempo loss. She's a tempo gain just that she's slow. You can't use her other followers until the next turn. That doesn't make her bad though just restricted in certain areas where you want to be able to fight for board control on the immediate turn you play her.
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>>169796512
Get rid of bellringer and put in unico.
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>>169795796
5PP airquote "6/8" is kinda good.
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>>169796559
desu gobbu nerd affected sword because you don't need 100% wards t7 anymore
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>>169796525
See this makes no fucking sense either. Literally anything you drop on turn 4 can be cleared with Levi+PR

>>169796613
I'm only repeating what people said when I said the same. Aurelia is "slow" too because you can't use her dude until the next turn either but then they throw the b-but floral needs evo point so she's a tempo loss if you play her outside of turn 4.
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>>169796512
More 2 drops holy shit, 3x Veteran Lancer are a must, cut the dingdongs. Healing Angels, fewer 4 drops, I personally would rather cut Florals than Amelias but that's personal preference. Bahamut / Fangslayer are also choices for top end.

This has some good pointers for control sword; http://sv.bagoum.com/analysis/deck-sheep-csword-2-1 it's obviously for pre-nerf tournament play and not >CURRENT MONTH ladder, but the thought process is worth looking into
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The new Haven legendary is very reminiscent of a card I had designed as an alternative to Frontguard General for Control Sword.

~Swordcraft Legendary~ 7 PP Follower - Commander 3/3
Reduce all damage that would be dealt to this follower to 0. This follower cannot be removed from the field by card effects.
Evolved: 4/4 If this is the only follower you control, ~ gains ward until the beginning of your next turn.

Thoughts? I designed it as a super grindy control card that either finishes them slowly or guarantees you a turn so you can follow-up with Cyclone Blade, Alexander, etc.
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>>169796740
Bellringer has helped me much more. I've messed with both and digging, especially early is good for sword.
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>>169796260
Floral is bad. She does nothing without evo and sword has better evo targets.
Amelia is the best 4 drop currently in csword.
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2578 Nepu.

Meme or dream?
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>>169796890
There it is, the "does nothing without evolve" argument.
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>>169796781
Aurelia actually has a ward though, or are you talking about amelia? Amelia's gelt is free if you run into aggro which gives you a free ward instantly and you can still play amelia + gelt for 6pp off curve.
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>>169796887
bellringer can't clear fairies

cut amelia and odin

add fangbladers and vetern lancers

you might wanna fit a cyclone blade in there as well
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>>169796885
>nigh-invincible ward at turn 7 for an evolve point
Anon...
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I know this doesn't make sense.

but if cyclo become a officer?
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>>169796939
A broken dream slowly turning into meme.
With the literal overnight surface of aggro sword 2378 is probably better now.
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Are we ever going to get a preorder deck thing like HS? I want to buy in bulk for a discount
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>>169797061
You're right that doesn't make sense.
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>>169796939
>2578
What 5 drop?
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>>169797061
But it needs a body to work.
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>>169796890
Floral is good, you're weird.

Been playing sword since the game came out, and strictly sword besides storymode and take two.

Amelia is honestly only okay.
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>>169796992
Yeah I meant Amelia. She is better against aggro, but now she isn't used when 3 aggro decks are suddenly T1, ironically.
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>>169797090
just get a daily deal and treat it like a subscription
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>>169797097
Cerb and Goblinmount
Might try it.
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>>169796939
I honestly don't understanding why does people insisting on having only 4 values for folowers in Nep-Nep decks. It's just stupid.
What will happen if you'll draw all you Khawys and Mordes before turn 8? Nep will have to destroy 3 folowers? It's just dumb.
Proper Nep deck have to have 5 values for the folowers like 2-3-4-7-8 or 2-3-6-7-8 and so on.
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>open 4 packs
>4 legos
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>>169797056
The ward lasts for one turn only but I agree that this card is overall pushed.
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>b-but fate's hand is good, it doesn't clog your hand
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new thread?
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>>169797204
You're not completely omitting 3s though. You still play Soul Hunt and Pact.
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>>169797204
>what is consistency?
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>>169797301
But that's an okay hand, though having 2 Darias isn't much fun. You'll probably draw something before turn 4 and be able to play a turn 5 Daria.
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>>169797178
I still use amelia over floral in my csword deck.
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>>169796169
This. as if daria memers doesnt brick often enough now they have to add in a 6PP spell for more bricking chance.
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>>169797405
>>169797405
>>169797405

Bread
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>>169797301
>craig and clarke in hand
Oh boohoo you piece of shit
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>>169797204
Drawing all 3 morde or khawy is going to happend a lot less that you getting cucked becuase you bring 5 values.
On top of that there is going to be times where you are kinda forced to drop nep with 1-2 followers on board which would make 5 values even more inconsistent.
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>>169797204
Why run 3 Darias if you have a chance to draw all 3?
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need a concede 25236
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>>169797204
And then you play your "proper" Nep deck against a fuck huge guy at 8 and don't draw Kamura.
Good job.

You drawing all your shit is so extremely rare that you'd probably won't even get to draw Nep if you draw all you stuff instead.
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>>169797435
Fate's hand are dead draw, on top of that another Daria. His deck overall power dropped by 77%>
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>>169796939

2578 doesn't fall flat completely when dealing with DShift and Seraph since it actually has pressure from cerb and howl.
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