Fighting Games General /fgg/

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first for best edgelord gonna be in sfv

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Darkstalkers when?

How do I pick a SFV main?

Keep bouncing around characters

>>169777748
just play savior

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it's getting a little shilly

>>169777749
just stick with one you enjoy.
if you enjoy many roll the dice.

>>169777662
can't we get just one OP pic that is fighting game related

So Kolin is nuttier than squirrel turds.

Seems like she may be fun but I'll probably still be stuck on Bipson.

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>>169777662
Post more of best Skull

Anyone wanna play something on Fightcade?

Any game you like.

>>169777836
>that is fighting game related
Nigga you fucking stupid as fuck.

>>169777748
lilith and rashid make a good couple desu

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>>169777836

That alternative Kollin outfit is pretty neat. Shame about her shit damage output though.

>>169777946
its from a party masher flash game, not rly a fighting game...

Kolin is a huge let down. Her mixups are mostly really slow and telegraphed, she has no neutral or reversal at all and her one strength of getting free oki pressure is really unthreatening because her stubby normals make her frame traps shit. pretty much no 3 normal strings. just unrewarding 1 hit confirms into special that are a nightmare to do on reaction with capcom's delay and netcode. 0/10 would not waifu

>>169777662
Tell me
why does she wear the mask?
and eyepatch?

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>>169778005
More of a fighting game than smash'll ever be nintenbaby. Kill yourself and post best nurse

>>169777991
no, fuck ntr.

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>>169777802
I'm glad I don't play this game.

Please tell me why. Please tell me WHY a character can have a FORWARD MOVING SPECIAL that is plus on block, a +3 Crush counter move, unreactable dash and an xfactor?

>>169778016
good that you think like this, it keeps retards like you away from her.

>>169778042
Bro, she's a surgeon by trade and said trade dictates that she wear a mask to prevent her breath from contaminating people's innards.

>>169778163
Variety is the spice of life.

holy shit, skullgirls looks bad

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>>169778128
you're missing out

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<autistic screeching>

>>169778171
please tell me where im wrong mr silver

>>169778163
Balrog is sick of being shit and wants to reclaim his old position from ST

>>169778163
>FORWARD MOVING SPECIAL that is plus on block
If they removed this alone he would be balanced, I have no idea why they put that in the game.

How do i get better as Bison

>>169778163
I want to travel back in time to show the usf4 players what kind of shit people complain about in the future.

>>169778335
It is dumb. The only thing I can say is that he's a colossal meter whore and always wants at least two bars for his v trigger death combo

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why the fuck did I wake up at 4 am
I bet Ryu never has these problems

SFV is doing some weird shit with its loading times. The transition from stages in Survival mode is almost instant. I'm using a mechanical HDD aswell. The online loadings are definitely fucked somehow.

>>169778849
nigga how new r u

>>169777991
I don't think Cammy would approve..

>>169778849
it has to do with online sessions

>>169778163
Please tell me why. Please tell me WHY a character can have a FORWARD MOVING SPECIAL that is plus on block, combos into Ultra, beats focus absorb, has foot invul, and has a high enough hitbox to catch neutral jumps?

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nice game capcums

>>169778919
>plays Kollin
>uses Cammy costume
WHY

>>169778919
it got stunned because it was doing the recording action, for some reason recorded actions ignore the "no stun" option

happened to me when i was testing anti airs

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*Blocks ur path*

>>169778346
You switch characters.

But really. I don't know. Try watching Tampabison

Someone play me.

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how is this fair

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>>169778315
Black Manta in Injustice 2?

>>169779149
ex move

>>169778919
i mean nobody is going to not block it and it doesnt give you anything more than the oki most other characters get off their specials

>>169779063
just use ex devils reverse every time you have a bar and frame trap people when they block it.

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>>169778919
>projectile oki
she really is budget millia

Is SFV growing or shrinking?

Should I buy another year of PS+ for Kolin?

What can I do on wakeup as Ky?

Split Ciel and crouching dust sometimes works, but nothing seems safe except Ride the Lightning.

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>>169779204
How can anyone shit on Aquaman when he has one of the best villains?

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Why Can't SFV have a big-body Luchadore instead of a mixup master?

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>tfw stealing points from kolins in ranked

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>>169779313
In every meaning of the word.

>>169779438
tfw too distracted by the ass to give a fuck

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>>169779394
Because lmao he's only good in water Watermeign suuxxx.

>>169778849
it's not even loading until the screen flashes white

artificial wait timer so ps4 is never slower than the world's fastest PC

god damn it takes forever for the rematch button to appear

>>169779370
against legit setups you are forced to block, or just have system mechanics ie blitz, burst, dead angle, backdash, ib, fd, fd jump, fuzzy mash and guard. ciel and 2d are not real, VT can get low profiled, rtl is -22

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Choose your laura

there's no reason not to buffer specials/super off kolin's sweep cause it only cancels on hit

easiest OS in the game

>>169778128
>crapcummers keep bashing nrs faces when they praise THIS

>>169779625
all of them

>>169779394
Because south park made fun of it.

>>169779716
it's clearly a moveswap with misplaced facial animations

>>169779716
Cammy looks like a woman in the face there. NRS is certainly trying but BOY did their women have some powerful man jaws

>>169779625
they're all shit because its laura but if I had to pick: brown/black or white/red

>>169779463
why does GG always looks like shit from up close?

Does Kolin's EX counter work on all attacks regardless or high/mid/low?

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>>169779781
Family Guy too
https://youtu.be/wD7bq62tc4w

>>169779946
nah. Diff ex's are lp+mp low lp+hp mid mp+hp high

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>>169779946
no, lp+mp for low, lp+hp for mid, mp+hp for high

>>169779534
Fair enough, it felt like I was forced to block, I just thought there might be another option. I wish his dp had a couple of i-frames on startup, but that's the scrub in me talking

I'm still getting to grips with the systems, but I'm having more fun learning a shoot in this game than I have with anyone in any other fighter.

Is Elphelt hard to pick up? She feels really fun.

>>169779919
Looks fine, what do you see that's bad?

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>>169779919
Because you're blind.

>>169779919
Here is your (you)

holy shit, guilty gear looks bad

>>169779919
It actually only looks like shit from far away because of how busy the designs are but whatever

>>169780165
Which fighting game looks good then, in your opinion?

>>169780023
Where do I get this mod

SFV hit a peak of 4k players today.

That's 3k players that just log in, download the new character, play for 15 minutes and then drop the game and wait for the next character.

>>169779686
>cancelable sweep

kusoge

>>169780195
melee

>>169780228
and the servers shit their pants

if youre still playing SFV and 3s in 2017, i dont know what to tell you, you're making some bad decisions my man

where does ky place on tier list? i wanted to play millia and wasnt getting anywhere but tried ky and he seems really easy and good damage

does kolin's v skill counter everything?

>losing to a retard that DPs after he does a blockstring that leaves him negative
i want to murder these braindead fucks

>>169780036
his DP does have invul but use H version over S for that. and there can still be holes in people's pressure that you can take advantage with things like 5f moves (dipper, 5K, 2K/2P), DP plus the options i mentioned earlier. and you can RC DP as long as it doesn't whiff or if it's not too late of a cancel. i think elphelt is on the easier side of characters to pick up but increasingly hard to maximize

>>169780301
high mid to high i think, he has never been a bad character in xrd

>>169780339
no projectiles/grabs

>>169780374
why are you losing to it tho

>>169780264
Funny how capcom claimed they fixed the netcode and servers when it was just people leaving to lessen the strain.

>>169780264
Crapcom still haven't fixed their second-rate servers despite being so mocked all over the place for their complete failure of launch week. These people don't deserve the SF IP. It's a fucking crime these hacks are in charge of SF now.

>>169780394

alright, is there any info on nerfs/buffs for rev 2?

i just want to play the highest reward for least effort like daigo said to

>>169780439
That's how they fixed it. By being so shit that people just left. Vóila, we solved the problem of overburdened servers!

>>169780374
out fucking unga'd

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Don't speak to me or my bear ever again.

>>169780374
if he's braindead what does that make you

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>Alex can't do Yami Drop anymore
That is bullshit Capcom!

>>169780467
all we have are location tests, no finalized notes, ky should still be fine, just a different and probably nerfed 6h

>>169780436
for attacking when he was negative
it's my fault for thinking i was playing against someone with a brain

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>>169779313
she doesnt even ichiban like millia
worst girl desu

>>169780685
No you're supposed to blame the netcode.

>>169779985
aquaman has always been kind of shitty. his powers are like, to live in the water? and swim really fast? and there's dolphin i guess? during a time when people were growing up with stuff like venom and spawn.

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>>169780729
>building a new pc and reading about air flow
>find out people use pantyhose as a ghetto air filter
ichi....ban?

>>169780195
3s

>face platinum balrog
>know he's going to unga like the gorilla he is
>dp on wakeup constantly, 90% hit
>fag ragequits when he was about to lose 3 games in a row
toppest kek

>>169780729
Aww they got the stink clouds and everything.

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>>169780873
>tfw you safejump someone 4 times in a row and punish their dumb shit every time

>>169780394
Thank you, you've been very helpful

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>>169781014
Ride the Lighting™

>>169780873
>>169780953
dudes, nice!

https://clips.twitch tv/RamshackleLazyBatterySSSsss

B-b-but /fgg/ told me Kolin is low tier...

>>169780607
To be fair that was pretty dumb looking. You are supposed to get the backdrop after hitting the opponent with hp.Flash Chop. The Yami Drop was kind of breaking this aspect.

>>169781609
>>>/letsplay/

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>>169780764
His powers are also retard strength and a magic hand that he doesn't have anymore.

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>>169778315
>Old Jam was hot
>Old Dizzy was hot
>Old Baiken was hot

Are they intentionally ruining their characters, or is it a bi-product of moving to 3D/UE?

Now they're all same faced and wide.

https://twitter.com/KIWorldCup/status/836714762075521026
>ultradavid is going to ruin another event with is boring commentary

>>169781635
>hameko
>one of the biggest Japanese tech monsters along with INO_VS
>letsplay

You fucked up there.

is KI worth downloading

>>169781698
Remember that time he was rooting for Phenome to win against a Brit because he wanted an EU nation to win over Brexit?

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>>169781685
>cured autism
Wait what?

>>169781686
16:9 fucking shit up

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WARNING: HIGH LEVEL BALROG PLAY ON DISPLAY
AVERT THY EYES
*distant ape screeches*

>>169777662
Help. How do I consistently perform EWGF? I have no console, there's no place to get any, and I can only practice at the local arcade.

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This character is too much fun. It's gonna suck when people get used to her dumb shit though.

>>169781721
You clearly are not playing anything, streamboar.

>>169781915
Get PPSSPP, download Tekken 6, get the Tekken 7 mod and practice EWGFs and Tekken 7 bnbs at your heart's content.

Fifty fucking european dollaroos

Goobers defend this.

How do balrog mains sleep at night? Fucking disgusting human beings.

>>169781925
Keep going for memes, shithead.

Don't talk to me ever again, bitch. You already fooled yourself by calling hameko a "letsplay". You have no right to talk with any other human being in this general.

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>>169781842
Black Manta faked having autism to make Aurthur look like a jackass who beats up on autistic people.

Apparently any and every reason Manta has for hating him is fabricated.

Hate at first sight?

>>169782003
What are you tallking about senpai?

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>>169781853
What the fuck was the Balrog even trying to do there? It genuinely looks like his controller broke or something. How is that guy even Rank 3 in the world

>>169781831

Norway isn't in the EU lmao.

>>169781986
>Tekken 7 mod
What the hell? They modded T7 into T6 now?

>>169781986
I'd like to practice with a stick, thank you. That's the only community around here really.

>>169782152
Yes, that's how desperate Tekkenfags have gotten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ZZ9lnSBws

>>169781773
Of course.

>>169782146
That's the funny part.

>>169781831
>Norway
>EU nation
Pick one.

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>>169781853
name 1 (one) higher iq character than sfv balrog

you just can't

>>169782076
Fuck off retard. Fuck off with your spam of what randoms did on stream
Just fuck off.

>>169779404
El dragons fun. His buff nerf cycle is a riot but currently he sits at meh.

>>169782315
Don't talk to me.

>>169782315
>randoms
lmo

>>169779394
Formerly autistic black man who swims who's constant reminding of aquaman sons death turned out not to be autism but pure hatred and malice.

>>169781924
she's always gonna be a bad mu for gorillas including guile

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reminder that blocking low is for scrubs

What's Kolin's wakeup reversal?

>>169782449
She doesn't have one
Good luck!

>>169782448
see me in a2 right now, rudeposter. what's your FC

>>169782631
i don't play kusoge

>>169782448
You checky fuck
https://youtu.be/_WFLUhSym80

>>169782449
EX vanity has invincibility on the 3rd frame iirc

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post best nurse

>>169782676
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kolin frame data when

>>169779149
Because she needs a move that just says no to vertical air approaches.
Her whole kit is good pokes but she has a weak area above her.

What's the difference between Kolin's v skill and her command counters?

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Kolin has by far the easiest trials, goddamn.

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>>169782827
>those sniffs on the right

>>169782125
target combo into v trigger. his tc is cr.mk twice so it looks dumb like that when it whiffs.

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>>169782864
I can't complete them.

Why is SFV so good bros? Can you imagine the level of play we'll get to by 2020!?

Thank you, Capcom so much! #riseup

Is Ibuki the most unpopular character in SFV or what? I don't think I've ever played against an Ibuki player online.

>>169782864
Only one I skipped was the step into air chain
Fucking hate that shit. I'll do it later

>>169782948
There is no point whatsoever in playing her unless you hate fun and winning. And since SFV wasn't made to be fun, nobody picks her since they just want to win.

>>169782862
Other than V-Skill dealing damage outside of countering I don't know.

>>169782864
Trial 10 was embarrassingly easy and I am pretty retarded.

>>169782904
You can barely see her hands tho

>>169782923
dumb type moon poster

>>169782864
They're easy but they're definitely not as easy as Zangief/Alex/Birdie trials.

>>169783026
I can't believe one of zangief's is jump hk, sweep

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>>169783024
Do not bully my King. She was NOT made for such degeneracy

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>when the unga is juuuuuuuust right

>>169783107
i want seiba to touch my saber

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>>169783173
That is not permissible

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>>169783107
Yeah nah

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>>169782923
You can still be a background dancer.

Also, after completing the story mode, I suddenly really want Gill for SFV. I also hope they won't add that Taylor guy as the third playable army guy - nothing to him aside the fact he's black, which Balrog already is.

>>169780729
I want Hotaru in DOA so bad.

/ps4g/ is having some autist rant on and on about stuff so I came here

is Kolin fun?

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Kek

>>169784072
From what I've gleamed she has interesting gimmicks but no damage

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ah yes, im ready to play some sfv rn

>>169782125
Ryu's hitbox extends forward during his fireball startup frames, he was hoping to catch that extended hitbox and cancel into v trigger before the fireball came out.

>>169784072
Kill yourself, sonygger.

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>>169784216
stay mad kiddo

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Stop playing Urien

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>>169784319
no

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How the fuck is everyone using her mid and low parries?
If you're fishing for something it's much more safe to just crush counter with your stupid ass +70 buttons everyone has and if you're baiting a reversal or something you still get way more out of crush counter, they're just so goddamn unsafe.

Maybe in neutral game but in this shit game only urien has long as fuck buttons.

post kolin

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Will Kolin have the same fate as Akuma online?

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>>169784319
G I L L W H E N
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>>169784456
Anyone else find Akuma's bnb pretty hard on a pad?

>>169784319
This looks dope as fuck, why did was the story art so much hit and miss

Why gill in particular?

>>169784727
Maybe he plays in a special role in things to come

I love Gill and Urien so I hope

I hate SFV so much why do I keep playing oh God someone free me of these shackles

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I saw a dream that I played TTT2 against Aris in an online tournament.

>>169779625
I dont like her bonita costume.
Battle, summer and christmas are all better.

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>tfw reach a new league
>tfw ranked anxiety
>tfw have to stop playing in fear of losing points

>>169784727
Kolin's personal story art is surprisingly great.

>>169780559
heihachi looking fucking shitty there

>>169784456
I'm fine with that, seeing ashow Akuma is sleeper top tier.

THE FUTURE

>>169785085
ON YOUR KNEES

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>>169785085
>that ex air parry
>ON YOUR KNEES

I want to use kolin just for that voice line

kolin is fun as fuck
sfv, the best fighting game ever, just keeps getting better and better

thank you based woshige

>>169784727
He probably has more time to draw this shit now but he kinda still has to make it look like the previous stuff so that its not all mega inconsistent.

>>169782948
I see her relatively often around super/ultra plat range in europe.

>>169785016
>>169784727
its amazing what devs can do when they dont rush shit for muh esports

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MIRAI
IRAI
RAI
AI

tfw you have more fun in xrd training room than you do playing real people on sfv

tfw you have more fun watching sfv streams than playing gooby gear

Kolin is just Gills personal Onahole desu

tfw you have fun playing games you like and hope other anons have fun playing the games they like even if it's not a game you particularly enjoy that much

is broski losing it

Jesus the shilling is obnoxious.

>>169784397
didn't they switch out the panties in this outfit for bike shorts

>>169785570
End yourself to stop it

tfw too low iq for zato or johnny
tfw really wanny play zato or johnny

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>Gill takes off his robes

>>169785693
Johnny shouldn't be that hard.

tfw future

>>169785693
Johnny is not high iq just high execution. Grind him out.

>>169785693
>execution is IQ related

>>169785865
Well yes thats why Low IQ people play motion characters

Easier execution

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>>169785749

>>169785972
Charge is easier though, less inputs.

>>169785570
i know i wish the goobers would gtfo

Are Kolin counters like usf4 gouken where each parry had a hitbox in a certain level or like parries in every other single game (eg. axl, geese) where low counter only catches low attcks and high counter high attacks?

>>169785972
Charge characters in general are easier. For every venom there are 10 balrogs.

>>169785570

Play SFV it's literally the best fighting game ever

>>169786038
lp is low parry, mp is mid, hp is high parry (jump in n shiet)

im not sure how ex works

>>169786038

high only catches high
mid only catches mid
low only catches low

>>169782864
Birdie is the easiest trial imo
Trials in 5 overall are piss easy, the only one I had problems with was one of nash were you cad to cancel b.mk into the srk move.

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>Cucking Gill by beating Kolin as Urien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TRdx2tbUFI

MICK DA GAWD

https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/836912484317540352

I wonder if any of the other new character will be original or will they all be storymode rejects.

Is 2017 the best year for fighting games ever?

SFV S2, GG Xrd Rev2, Injustice, Tekken 7, For Honor, KoF XIV PC, USFII, Arms, Marvel Infinite, BB switch, etc.

>>169786519
I think there will be some original new characters.

>>169786537
>sfv
kys

tfw you sip lean and listen to ugk while you play fighting games

>>169786537
> KoF XIV PC
citation needed.

>>169786537
Depends how good mahvel is

>>169786479
REV2 IS FINISHED

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Kolin feels like an early build Decapre but Motion

>>169786537
Casual comic book and superhero movie audience will carry fighting games in 2017.

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>>169786537
How about a good fighting game?

>>169786479
>40 dollars for an HD super turbo

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>>169786537
Tfw I haven't been genuinely excited for a new fighting game release since SFV

>>169786701
;)

>>169786479
I wonder how far they could go with palette swaping and minor sprite modding:
Violent Ken
Evil Ryu
Decapre
Shadow Lady Chun-li
Mecha Zangief
Nash

>>169786730
ಠ_ಠ

>>169786702
Don't even pretend like you wouldn't gobble it up if it wasn't a switch exclusive. I bet you gonna buy marvel 3 for more than 1 system, too.

i wanna play kof but the sniffs are all pixalted and shit
and i dont own a ps4

>>169786784
More like how far would people tolerate it

>>169786784
Violent Ken is so funny because Ken himself is barely anything more than a palette swap.

>>169786537
sfv is the only game you mentioned that isn't complete and utter shit

>>169786479
why wouldnt they take out rng stun and damage
that would make that game 100% more lit

>>169786814
i wouldn't pay more than 10 dollarydoos for it if it were on steam

and even that would be a waste because sfv is better, so i'd just play that instead

>>169786702
b-b-but think about the first person mode shooting gallery with sf4 ryu assets waggling your controller at sf5 enemies
Surely that's worth 40 dollarydoos

>>169786974
They already changed throwbreaks which gives all the OGs a heartattack. You have to tread carefully with old autists like melee fanatics.

>>169787115
i was gonna add "you gotta be careful though, the old purist might throw a fit and break a hip" to my post

Why do Australians have such terrible taste in fighting games? By that I mean why is Street Fighter V the only game that anyone plays?

>>169787291
deported criminals

>>169779149
Because she is a shit character.

>>169787329
But American anime tournaments are full of black people.

>>169787291
i wonder who is behind this post

>>169787291
They're one of the 3 countries outside of Asia that have T7 cabs

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>>169787291
>>169787407

>>169785016
yeah, that was unexpected, shit was nice.

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Holy fuck Guile was a beta in Kolins story

>Excuse me, I am looking for my friend
>Kolin whispers something he can't hear
>Y-you too ill just leave

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Someone explain me why shit like balrog, urien and laura are allowed but they have to nerf alex 1 frame link backdrop after blocked slash.

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>>169786537
>SFV S2
Already confirmed trash

>Rev2
Paid patch.

>Injustice 2
Might be fun for the story, but nobody plays NRS games for the long haul.

>Tekken 7
EARLY 2017

>For Honor
Would rather play Dark Souls PvP

>KoF14 PC
citation needed

>Switch shit
Switch shit.

>Marvel Infinite
It's Marvel and it's by nu-Capcom.

It seems they took out in this patch the Alex thing where a throw after a blocked H flash beat 3f
Why
Also whens proper balance changes? I suppose before FR that kicks off cpt right?

>>169787683
Can you please not reply to me? I'm scared I'll catch your retardation by reading your garbage.

imagine playing a braindead top tier SSSSSSSSS character like urien and losing ever

>>169787792
Cammy, Guile, Laura and Balrog are better than him though

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>>169787683
>EARLY 2017
Only 93 days left my dude

>but nobody plays NRS games for the long haul.
http://steamcharts.com/app/237110
http://steamcharts.com/app/307780
http://steamcharts.com/app/242700

>>169787846
Call me when after going through all the bullshit buttons and + on every fucking move, after you start to win the game, those characters can take 75% of your health with one reset that's easily done and super safe to do.

>>169787792
How salty are you lmao? Most fighting games have top tiers that are much more oppressively superior to the cast than him.

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>>169787651

Will persona 5 get a fighting game aswell? They better bring that shit to PC just like they're doing with the main game aswell.

>>169787981
Yeah and most fighting games are fun.

>>169788065
They are, just learn the fucking match up. Why do SFV players have to complain about EVERYTHING? "Boo hoo Chun Li top tier S1!", lmao try dealing with her in ST or 3S.

>>169787981
>Most fighting games have top tiers that are much more oppressively superior to the cast than him.
Only capcom games and melee really.

FUCK URIEN

FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGER CHARACTER

NOW IM LOSING ALL MY RANK GAMES BECAUSE OF ONE FUCKING URIEN PIECE OF SHIT

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March 1st is chunlis birthday. Post some chunners.

>>169788197
BlazBlue always has really oppressive top tiers too.

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>>169788231

>>169788197
Yeah, no.

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>>169788231
Chun-Li is an old hag, Kolin is the new hotness.

>>169788358
whats with the fat ugly arab nose

>>169788197
>goobers are this clueless about the whole fighting game genre and even their own games

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>>169788231

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>>169788321

>>169787651
How useful was it, really? I mean it was cool and all but I'd rather my character was legit good instead of relying on retarded gimmicks

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>>169788425

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>>169788358
post more cute blondes please

>>169787651
Because it was dumb and clearly unintentional.

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>>169788403

AHHHHHHHHH


FUCK URIEN FUCK THIS GAME

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>>169788660

>>169788231
>>169788539
>>169788660
please stop im trying not to jerk off

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>>169788231

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>>169788803

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>>169788879

>>169788683
GO TO PRACTICE MODE STOP CRYING

>>169788683
Just play him.

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Whens alpha costume

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Why don't fighting games display frame data in-game? It seems pretty dated having to memorize frame data when the game can simply just display frame advantage/disadvantage in regular gameplay.

>>169789002
>>169789106
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR NASH IS SHIT NOW


FUCK

>>169788683
DAAAAAAAAAA
TAKE THIS
AEGUS REFLECTUR

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More fighting games should have vocal tracks.

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>>169788231
play chunny

>>169789273
All games by developers that take the players serious do. MKX shows framedata, KI and Skullgirls show hitboxes.
Everything else is toys for kids.

i thought you guys said sfv wasnt dead, ive been in queue for a match for 5+ mins now

that popular "buff don't nerf" video is making me mad

how the fuck does removing invincible DPs from 4 top tier characters make the game less exciting? or rather, how the fuck does letting cammy sit on an invincible wakeup while storing meter for one hit into CA for 50% damage make for a more exciting game? or how does letting her DP on wakeup and cancel into CA for either big damage or a get out of jail free card if the opponent blocks more exciting? ryu can do the same thing with DP into CA, you can barely punish it. necalli not needing to use meter EVER lets him sit on a CA every fucking round and cr.mk into CA - tell me how that is more exciting?

the dp nerf is good and there is no logical argument that can refute that fact.

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AHHHHHHHH LOST 1K POINTS IN AN HOUR WHAT THE FUCK

>>169789379
No shes only for fapping

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Most balance complaints would be fixed if people just played the character they think is the strongest.
This would let the devs see a trend and would jumpstart the search for tech against the strong characters.

>>169789418
What if you have every character a defensive option instead of taking it away from the few that do have it?

>>169789273
>regular gameplay
Like, all the time?

>>169789595
I meant in actual versus battles and not just training mode. A simple indicator that displays the frames negative/positive after a block/hit.

>>169789549
then every character will be able to safely store meter for that one hit into CA for retarded damage. that is not good, if you want to reversal, you should either VR or spend a bar for it.

it's boring if every round ends with a CA. SF4 giving you an ultra every round was even dumber.

>goobers say anti-airs are strong in goober gear
>joniosan stream right now, nage versus some piss rank sol
>literally just aggressive jumping beans battle

goobers can't be serious

>>169789707
SHOCHINCHU

>>169789680
Why not give characters more useful ways to spend meter then?

>>169789549
it's not a coincidence that the 4 characters with a DP were ALL top tier in S1: Ryu, Ken, Necalli and Cammy. In a game where the wake up can be so oppressive, they had an unfair advantage over the rest of the cast. So, the nerf made game way more balanced. If the other characters are given defensive options then it those 4 could have their DP back. That ain't happening though.

>>169789756
you can NEVER jump in GG you will get hit for 90% damage stop lying GG has a crazy complex methodical neutral game

>>169789756
GG players are just as delusional, their game is an endless dash, jump and mashfest too. Japanese GG is godlike to watch,but lets not pretend the game has actual neutral and footsies.

>>169789756
anti airs can be strong at the same time that jumps can be strong
there's a high risk high reward on them because if you get anti aired you will eat a shitload of damage even meterless

compared to sf games you will eat peanuts if you get anti aired (unless a character can juggle into a super) but a successful jump in is incredibly damaging

>>169789284
BOO HOO HOO I CANT FUCKING ADAPT
jesus just stop acting like a woman

>>169789756
What's it with capcucks and their obsession with jumps?

>>169790187
What is it with Capcom and their obsession to make anti-airs worthless?

>alex got nerfed
L M A O

remember when daigo "washed up drunk" umehara played gooby gear xturd for like a week and was able to take ogawa to the limit

sad!

Laura is so fucking strong right now, holy shit

>>169789756
>I watched a stream
Play games

>>169790187
Neutral isn't allowed to be more than two guys throwing fireballs until one decides to jump in.

>>169789549
SFV doesn't have options to fight DPs like safe jumps. There was a reason people would land retarded amounts of them even in high level play
Hell, people think EX headbutt is good. That shit is slower than all versions of ST boxers headbutt, but it still works because you don't have the tools to nullify it
So in context, meterless DPs were way too fucking good, despite losing more than 30% if you missed one.