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Nobunaga edition

Latest Patch Notes
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Patches

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

>What should I do with the armour/weapons I don't want/use?
Purple/Blue = Disassemble (Then use the blue mats to forge a purple if you have enough)
Yellow/White = Sell or you can give it to the kodamas for amrita and the odd free item.

>What does the summoning candle do?
It returns your guardian spirit to you when you die along with the amrita you collected.

>Should I use soul match?
Honestly, no, not unless you have basically finished the game and have a weapon with some really great stats. As you progress you will get a steady flow of new weapons and armour that is better than what you have. Don't waste your money on soul matching until later.

>Why do people keep mentioning "smithing texts"?
Bosses tend to drop pieces of their armour and weapons when you defeat them. Very rarely they will drop a smithing text which allows you to forge their armour/weapon.

>Which clan should I join? (clan unlocked through progression)
Whichever one has a bonus that you think will benefit your build the most.

Beta guide that could still be useful : http://pastebin.com/VEHby7kd

list of smithing texts:
http://pastebin.com/iDcwJWuy
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Last thread died because you assholes didn't make a new thread in time.
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tome best
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Tome is a jew
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>>169771449
delet now
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>>169771326
So? As long as a new thread is made it doesn't matter.
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what do you guys unlock through tome

i've maxed out sell price markup and upper level limit and the barber is unlocked


i haven't got to ng+ yet tho, is it worth doing anything else?
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>>169771630
You're going to get enough points to do everything bro so it doesn't matter.
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>>169771671

>You're going to get enough points to do everything bro so it doesn't matter.

should be the tagline of the game desu
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>>169771630
Focused on markup and forging, then when I got muramasa back went straight into soul matching + reforging
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>>169771854
It really should. The amrita per level caps at 10 million and even a shitty build can get 30million per run from Demon King while upper tier builds can get 130million per run.
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I really, really don't want the multiplayer to turn into fucking waifu wars because some immature sweatmonster wanted to jerk off to Fuku's ass while he played. I just know that 90% of people in PvP will be playing as Okatsu or Ginchiyo and that will be absolutely insufferable. I am more annoyed at the devs for making these designs though, like why couldn't Ginchiyo be wearing armor that wasn't form fitting, and why can't she just wear a helmet.
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>>169772313
what?
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>>169771274
All other weapons besides axes are non true jap cucks. Pls leave my general.
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I really, really don't want the multiplayer to turn into fucking husbando wars because some immature fujoshit wanted to jerk off to Kelley's abs while she played. I just know that 90% of people in PvP will be playing as Hanzo or Matsunaga and that will be absolutely insufferable. I am more annoyed at the devs for making these designs though, like why couldn't Matsunaga be wearing armor that wasn't form fitting, and why can't he just wear a helmet.
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>>169772046
Let me see if I understood that correctly, at a certain point each level is just 10 million amrita and it stays like that until you max out at 750?
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>>169772432
>implying you wouldn't jerk off to kelley
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>>169772518
Yes. It's somewhere between 200 and 225 that it hard caps but once you hit that range it stays at 10 million per level up all the way to 750.
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Hey anons, I made a colored version of that one image of best girl, enjoy!
Masturbate to it
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>>169772851
N I C E
I
C
E
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>>169772851
i'm gonna fuku Fuku
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>>169772851
that's not tome
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>>169772837
I see. In other news, just forged my first 160.
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>>169773073
the hard cap is 250
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>>169773073
same first try actually. I very odd turn of luck since I seem to have none.
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Where's the best place to farm Divine Iga? Or should I just try to forge my set since I have the smithing text already?
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>>169772851
I thought Fuku's hair was slight more silver/grey?
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Where do you get the plans for the Tatenashi set?
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>>169773569
Forge it. Become the patient zero.
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>>169773682
Looking at screenshots it seems to be just as black as most other characters hair, I think it's simply the graphics fooling you.
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>>169772851
>I made the worst picture of the best girl even worse
Good job anon.
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>>169773569
Ng+ hanzo
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>>169774392
faggot
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>4 pieces of Tatenashi
>Raging Bull chest
>Gozutenno's Axe in off slot
>Ravenwing Rifle
>Warrior of the West bow
>Yasakani Magatama
>Todo clan

Is that the tankiest you can possibly be and still have B agility?
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>>169772851
Here's a challenge for you: draw Saoirse

I see many pixiv artists shying away from her because her design is so complicated.
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I've hit the Tome grind, how do I make money?
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>Weakness: Off

the fuck does that mean? They don't have a weakness?
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>>169774853
Maybe. You get how much weigh x/max x with 99 stamina and 99 strength?

I'm actually surprised you managed to fit tatenashi in b agility. Shits heeeavy.
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>>169774993
He's not an artist.
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>>169774994
Request from Ginchyo

Speedrun to the 3 possible chest locations, fight nothing. Get ~110k per run, takes 30 seconds if the closest chest spawn, 1 min 30 if the furthest.
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>>169775034
Yes, you only need 96 Stamina to boot.
>shit's heavy

That's why you don't wear the chest, like half the weight of any set is in the chest.
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>>169775154
Makes a lot of sense.
Can you go lower tho?
If you ended up in 35% or something maybe you can improve it.
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>>169775102
Is that even a lot?
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>>169775296
For the amount of time it takes, sure.
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>>169775296
110k every minute is the fastest gold farming method in the game right now. Nothing else is even close.

It also gives you a free accessory every run, which is good for farming a Yasakani Magatama if you don't have one yet.
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>>169775296
another good one is farming two kings if you can do it fast. you get about 10k less gold but you also have a good chance of getting divines so that kinda offsets it. I switch between the two that way I don't get to board. also it lets you farm up the divines you need.
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>>169775491
>>169775506
Alright thanks, it just didn't seem like much compared to what I had but I've only just started forging.
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>>169775601
Doing Two Kings fast requires having a good weapon already, and when you first start farming in NG+ your weapon will be pretty shit.
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>>169774993
>tfw too busy drawing commissioned titanfall2 fet art to make fuku/mothgirl(male)/SEER-shuh art
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>>169775506
alternatively, The Demon's Daughter takes the same amount of time and gives 160k. each run will cost you 1 rifle round though, but that's offset by the drops from the 1 enemy you have to kill, and the accessory mission reward
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>>169775776
>being this much of an attention whore
>not linking your art
Ya blew it.
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>>169775723
true but I started doing it at around +4 weapon and I was able to clear it semi fast. It wasn't as fast as I can now but it wasn't to bad.
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>>169774995
Means their weakness is getting Off'd. Try it.
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>>169775776
Well, you WAS paid.
Just make a nice piece so you can get money again.
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>>169775824
You could always go to /tfg/booru or something. Also i'm 99.9% commission at this point and everyone seems to hoard that shit so I can't actually link my recent stuff. I'd go to the booru and link relevant shit myself but i'm phoneposting from work and without ad-block the sites damn near unworkable.
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>>169775953
>can't figure out how to install ad block on a phone browser
Did you figure out how to open a bank account by yourself or did you have help?
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>>169775868
>was
I GET paid to make shit likea comic about a robot phasing out of a dimension into a fat cloaked pilot who thought just because she was invisible no one would hear her chubby ass being out of breathe from a single wallrun. Also some fag wanted a dragqueen grapple pilot but like i mentioned earlier he's in that 99.9% that hoards it so it'll never see the light of day.
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>>169776071
Its an Iphone. I could crack it but when it inevitably breaks I won't get any cheap support from apple to fix it.
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>Bridge of Bones
>What I think was the last wave
>Biwa spawns
>Seeing all those revenant spots start lighting up
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>>169776103
Well, who can argue with money?
Let the guy and his... Waifu? Oc? Dunno
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HEY YOU'RE NOT THE ONE WHO'S AT FAULT HERE
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>>169776393
Do you not have SotC or beyblade?
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>>169776453
I realize i worded that wrong. I GET paid when its done. I want that money i gotta put the work in. Any other way my procrastination kicks in and my clientele suffers.
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>>169776560
Oh, I beat them

But it was still an oh shit moment when I realized how crafty KT was with the placement and knowing how many revenants would pop up on the bridge
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>doing some yokai realm coop
>guy doesn't greet
>starts to have a hard time at the first enemy
>flashy iai
>both rush boss
>he starts to be an edgelord
>gestures mid fight
>basically leave all the damage to me
>boss has a sliver of health
>coop bar not full
>he dies
>I'm just on top of his grave
>revives by himself
>instantly dies again
>mission fail
>rush boss
Fucking edgelords
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nioh desperately needs updates
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what scales damage bonus (less armour)? i imagine its not having something equipped but there's so many shit translations in this game its probably the complete opposite
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>>169776662
That makes sense. But its also easy to be scammed and the guy take the "unfinished" piece and not pay, saying he doesn't like it.
Ever considered asking 50% or 33% before?
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>>169776860
the less armor the more damage, might mean empty slots.
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>>169776774
this is why i only do random encounters
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>>169776792
We hear complaints that 2kat attacks deal subpar damage outside skills in cases as early as midgame and to address this we're upping the damage to the 1kat standard. To offset this we're increasing Ki usage and weight of heavy armor 3 fold so as to prevent the Master Swordsman set from becoming to powerful.

-KT.
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>>169776881
Nah. I finish it, get paid, hand it over. Last i heard i'm known for making shit exactly the way they want it instead of doing the usual "anything goes so long as its not in this laundry list of subjects I won't draw cause it triggers me." That most drawfags apparently do.
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>>169776860
why don't you test it out?
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>>169777101
I constantly consider it as getting paid now is better than latwr but i WILL just take that money, go play nioh for a few days, draw for a few hours, then shelf it for more nioh.
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>>169776987
I usually do too.
But I wanted the free bangasa ribs.
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>>169777157

I did a bit. Not really sure how. Weapon attack stayed the same with just the gloves equipped and with all armor equipped. I guess i have to attack something to actually see? I dont have any heavier armor to test it properly right now to see if its weight based.
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>>169777101
So you're basically not a faggot.
Great.
Because I know what you're talking about.
Welp, you can charge extraaaa. Just kidding, its risky to up prices like that.
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>>169777101
usually you get paid first
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So what's a good softcap on Magic if you're not using the elemental shots or talismans? All I use are the buffs/debuffs/heals, and all I know is most of them become better with more onmyo power. Right now I'm at 60 Magic.
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>>169777685
I know. But if i get pais first i will absolutely procrastinate to the point i will actually forget about it. Its basically the plague of my life.
>>169777550
I used to. I've hit a happy medium now though that ensures i get to eat and stay in school and but low enough that people still comeback.
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>>169777782
20 for mystic art.
30 for max capacity.
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>It's a heavy armor, low stance spear, sloth, elixer, buff user revenant episode
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>>169777806
Paid*. Damn tiny phone screens.
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>>169772432
Wait, you can unlock Hisahide as a skin?
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where's the best place to get higher + weapons? all i keep getting is +4
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Would anybody be willing to help rush me through the Evil in the Ether Twilight mission? I hated this level the first time I played it and it's killing me mentally with how expansive a stage it is.

We can skip enemies/Kodama/chests if you'd like, or the opposite; it's up to you.

Password is 8008 if you like boobies.
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What's equipment weight max do you have with 99 stam 99 str?
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>>169779325
Happily. Joining now.

I'm sorry if I make an absolute fool of myself, I'm competent but not great at the game. I did just beat it solo myself without dying though, so hopefully I won't disappoint you.
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>>169779598

Omg thank you. :DS
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>want to unlock Omi
>need to clear entire Tokai and Sekigahara
>lazy
>yokai realm people keep dodging
>when they do play, it's a red demon shitter that dies and fails the mission
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>>169779725
sorry that wheelmonk done fucked me up
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>>169779598
Yeah...I apologize for falling off that edge the second time. I reacted late to the bats. Fuck me.
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Can someone drop Dragon Visitors Kabuto for me?
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>>169779375
55.8

The maximum weight you can have and still have B agility is 39.1

That's the exact weight of 4 pieces of Tatenashi plus the Raging Bull chest.
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Anyone able to tell me the optimal rolls on the individual armour pieces?
Maybe for katana too, but it's not my priority since it's just meant to be a side to my main and used more for the set bonus.
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>>169779927
Thank you!
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>>169780378
killed that boss good
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can you inherit attack on all armor pieces?
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>Close Combat Attack (Status Enhancement): D-
does anyone know how strong this is and whether it stacks?
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>>169781558
yes
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>>169779010
+5 is the max, just do the highest lv main missions and you'll get plenty
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Does anybody happen to have inheritable CtA Stamina or Strength at A?
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Guys I just took screenshots of all spirits maxed.
So whoever wants to compare before levelling or something, here it is:
http://imgur.com/a/q0bu4
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>>169781747
you missed one
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>Full Iga Ninja Set
>40 Dex
>Ninja Guardian Spirit

>Kunais hit for 300 damage

What the fuck? I've seen people hit for 1k with their kunais. What the fuck do i do? I doubt going for 99 Dex is going to add more than another 100 damage to that
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>Read that Evil In the Ether is good for farming divine Tatenashi
>Rush to and run through it despite being massively undergeared
>Kill everything
>One piece of Tatenashi
>It's yellow
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>>169781837
22 spirits
22 images saves
22 uploaded
You sure? Everything seems right here.
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>>169782225
I got full divine tatenashi from revenants.
Try isle of demons and bridge of bones
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>>169781907
Optimise Titles, Omnyo has Item support Mystic Art, get Shuriken buffs.

Also, they might've been at a much higher point than you are now.
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Is it more worthwhile to just keep dumping divines into one of these weapons until I get the change to attack that I want or is it easier to savescum, make a new katana and dump a bunch of divines into it, and if I don't get change to attack, reload, repeat?

or maybe I should just wait until I find an inheritable change to attack stamina A?

...does anyone have one they could revenant drop? I have plenty of things I can drop in return for the trouble.
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>>169782230
where's moth?
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>>169782837
Flew away to never be seen again
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What are tell tale signs that your host when you Torii is an absolutely fucking useless host?

I'd like to nominate the following;
>Has Kato as their Spirit AFTER region 1, more so in NG+
>Unironic High Stance, High Weight, Axe babby
>FIRST SHRINE on a non-twilight
>FIRST MISSION (FOUR TIMES, TODAY.)
>Kodama Helmet (The actual one)
>Red Memeon
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>>169783283
>Unironic High Stance, High Weight, Axe babby
How do you know when he's unironic and when unironic?
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>>169783283
>full warrior of the west or full red demon
>doesnt bow
>using a spear
i would say suzaku but it's impossible to fuck up when using it.
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>>169783283
all my summons have been katana users
maybe 80% red memeon

>tfw i'm a kato axe baby
get on my level
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>>169783419
>He thinks there's anything it's impossible for a host to fuck up
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>>169783385
When I see them slow roll away from Hino's screams.

>>169783484
>all my summons have been katana users
Considering that they have the best support, doesn't really suprise me.
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>>169783484
kato is underrated
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>>169782656
>Optimise titles

But you can only do that once. Also i spent all my points on things that benefit me in combat, so i put points into Ninjutsu Power whenever it came up.

Also the Onmyo mystic arts are for buff duration and self buff cast speed, what are you talking about?

I'm in NG+
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>>169783649
>that kodama who is literally 2 feet away from the shrine
>still needs directions
kodama are fucking stupid
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can you yokai realm twilight missions
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>>169784324
should be able to harvest kodama like bioshock desu

>>169784392
pretty sure
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>>169782556
Th-thanks
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>>169784256
Read onmyo mystic arts again.
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>>169783256
DELET THIS... ;_;
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What would the best spirit be for killing orochi without getting hit?
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isn't suzaku bit too strong compared to the other spirits?
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>>169784438
Free divine fragments.
Try isle of demons.
Usually there's axe guys in the corner.
First shrine, look at it, 180 degrees turn, go right.
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>>169784512
infinite living weapon and spam soul stones
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>>169784392
tried it with a friend last night, we couldn't get it to work for some reason
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>>169784526
suzaku is actually kind of bad, the only good things about it are amrita gain and living weapon on death
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Where can I expect to start seeing revenants with +1, +2, +3 etc gear?
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>>169784651
You have to both have done it at least once regardless of difficulty to yokai realm anything
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>>169784707
Revenants don't drop + gears
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>>169784758
oh

thanks
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>>169784738
oh, well that explains it

it's a bit counterintuitive when it's the one mode where both players get the mission progress but both players need to have it completed prior to the coop session..
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>>169784873
If you complete it in NG, then it's counted as "completed" in NG+ so if you just complete every single mission in NG, then you and a friend can NG+ everything and both get the completion.
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>>169784438
>>169784548
I just got this on NG+ Isle of Demons. Left side of the rock there an axe revenant with, I think peacock guardian. He is wearing Benkei hood. Hizayoroi also dropped but it's not in the pic.
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good place to farm high level revenants?
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>>169785369
i find whatever the current twilight mission is has the most high lv people
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>>169785369
inheritance or the 2nd mission where everyone trades gear
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>>169785484
>the 2nd mission where everyone trades gear

which mission is that?
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>>169785561
the first level in the alpha and beta
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>>169785619
Just say Isle of Demons, dude
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Why the fuck do you not gain familiarity when doing coop
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>divine 150 Sakon's spear with transferrable CtA (Body) A
neat
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>>16978459
Where the hell do you get enough spirit stones to do that shit
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>revenant with Dragon visitor
>doesn't do kabuto
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>>169786049
put the body onto a red demon or honda spear, they have better skills with the -1 set bonus accessory
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>>169786207
what
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>mfw Kingo
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>>169786434
you have no face?
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>>169786464
Yeah. The backstab damage is so high
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>get to sekigahara region in NG+
>feel really weak
where's the best place to farm amrita before demon king?
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>>169786265
Drop. Sorry I'm phone posting while playing the game.
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>beat Oda+Yuki on ng+ after 3 tries
>get Sozasa Monji smithing text after first time beating them
>neat.jpg
>requires Gargantuan tail bone
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>>169786706
At Sekigahara your gear average should be at least +4.
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>>169787036
You can easily kill Skelly on NG+ without stabbing crystals, Anon.
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>>169787036
Oh come the fuck on
mr skeltal is super easy
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>>169787036
and?

spider legs and centipede fangs take way longer
and done even get me started on hydra scales
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>>169787109
>>169787137
Not everyone has a "spam2win" ability you assholes.
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>>169787036
>he doesn't have to farm spiderfu legs
You have no right to complain.
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>>169787179
it's easier to just farm set pieces, why bother forging?
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>>169787182
Every weapon has that, fuccboi
And you don't even need that, just stab the crystal that purifies the upper part where the head ends up when skelly falls down and you have a LW ready everytime you need to wail on him
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>tank Salon armor axe revenant 400+
>uses sloth on me
At least thanks for the axe, just need to get rid of that less armor bonus. Do the revenants not drop the 160 gear? I farmed a bunch of 500+ revenants and none did.
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>>169787226
reduced stat requirements

it's really pissing me off that there isn't a smithing text for tatenashi because 17 str is a pretty big investment for builds that don't use str
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>>169787384
yeah but you can max out every stat anyway, it takes 6 hours of amrita farming to go from 250 to 750.
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>>169787456
99 in every stat is boring as shit
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>>169787456
where the fuck do you farm to get amrita that fast
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>>169787057
Is it necessary to upgrade your armor? Everything hits you like a truck
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>>169781704
+5 the max to drop? so to +10 you gotta rely on upgrading the upgrades to upgrade yours?
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>>169783513
why is your ki usage so high? do you not use your ugyo anyo bonuses?
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>>169787867
Demon King Revealed obviously.

>>169788062
Unless you want everything to 1 hit kill you then yes.
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>Way of the strong
>Realize I have to go through the Umibozu nightmare again
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>>169788062
i beat ng+ with all +0 gear so no
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>>169788519
Suzaku talismans fuck up them blob faggots and the boss itself like a hot knife through butter.

Even without the onmyo buffs.

Finally given up on sloth and carnage unless I really gotta cheese shit desu
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>>169788207
*+6 is the most that can drop
But yes, further than that you need to soul match
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>>169788519
>pick suzaku
>use guardian spirit ability in it's face
>it's dead in like 5 seconds
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>>169788062
>>169787057
beat all bosses up to saika with +0 armor, no issues, but i do have 40 body and medium/ heavy armor
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>>169788519
You don't HAVE to
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Do I need to use divine fragments in order to have a shot at 160 gear?

Or can I just keep making demon horn Chain Sickles regardless of quality?
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>>169788934
you don't
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I'm sorry I was looking down on Yasakani Magatama before, but now I see it. I can have different 2 pieces set bonus on all of my 4 weapons.
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>suzaku
>guardian talisman
>sloth+weakness+carnage
>strong weapon and 99 main stat

i wonder where i would be in the game if i didn't have all this shit that allows me to advance without actually getting very good at the game..
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>>169790269
I was like you, too. Until I discovered Axe.
Beyblading is life.
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>>169790243
wait, does your off hand weapons count towards set bonuses?
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>>169790269
Would be the exact same, but would take a little more time due to a couple avoidable deaths.
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>>169790269
>suzaku
>guardian talisman
>sloth+weakness+carnage
>strong weapon and 99 main stat
literally me
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>>169790437
Of course
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>>169790437
yes, it's easy to test with set bonuses that add ki or health.
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I don't know whst the fuck I'm doing. I pumped everything into heart and body and have yet to go into jutsu and the other spell shit because I don't know what's viable against bosses or not. All my skilld are in the sword category and I feel I did something wrong , I don't do shit to bosses and get 2 shot by everything. Now I'm stuck at the lightning dog thing which is the third boss and it's driving me absolutely nuts that I can't minmax because I lack the knowledge of the meta. My weapons are shit too, I am so close to just stop playing this character and maybe just stop playing alltogether.
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>>169790243

Best sets worth using with the Yasakani Magatama if I already have 4 Kingos on? Going for back damage obvs.
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>>169790549
>>169790563
well shit, i thought about it when i started the game and i thought it'd be too good so i just assumed it doesn't work
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Would any kind soul assist me in slaying the infamous umi-bozu?

I will clean any dirty dishes in your sink as reward.
Pic is steak
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>>169790678
you could add 4 of warrior of the west for +10% damage
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>>169790269
>way of the strong
>fight first hino-enma
>not use a build that trivializes the game
>take more than 7 tries

reality checks are suffering
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>>169790642
its best not to worry about builds much that early in the game. stats dont really matter as much here and reincarnation books are plentiful. if you are going for a 1kat build i would suggest first getting enough body/skill/stamina/strength to wear whatever armor you like at B or better agility and then get your spirit up high enough to unlock the passives on your favorite spirit animal. after that pump heart to 99. skill to 50 would come next then strength to 33 followed again with skill to 99.
>>
thanks to the anon yesterday who mentioned using backwave>tempest>final blow>iai

all revenants die like flies now
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>>169790678
I have tranquil, yatagarasu, wotw and gozu
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>>169775779
Can you get the yakasani magatama from demon's daughter?
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>>169790774
yeah alright

NG or NG+
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>>169790957

>not just using the wind bird guardian and constantly knocking them down for killing strikes
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>>169791174
NG
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>>169790957
oh that was me

you're welcome m8
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>>169790957
>> not just one shotting them with iai as they spawn
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more boss duo missions when?
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>>169791260
set a secret word and I'll be right there
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>>169790957
i one hit revenants with living weapon before they get a chance to do anything, they can't even block if you attack quick enough.
>>
Do summoned players show with disguise?
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>>169791346
Add me on psn if you want and we can party up on mic, I could use a few tips against this boss.

Otherwise secret word is BUTTFA
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>>169791419
yes
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>>169791442
That's cool. What about refashion?
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>>169791428
I don't have a mic because I'm your typical mic-shy yuro, but all you need to remember is to watch out for that big old core being opened up like goatse so you don't get hit by the death beam

also be aware how much room you have on the platform because falling off will kill you more than the beam

I'll be right there
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>>169791548
yep, tested with a friend awhile back.
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>>169791563
I did it senpai, please don't hate me
One more try?
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>>169791809
shit happens man, I'll try as many times as it takes, I've got fuck all else to do today
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>>169791857
<3 sweet I'm already summoning so whenever you're ready boss
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So my 2kat has
>Familiarity Bonus Damage A+
>Water +21
>[Inherited] CtA Skill A+
>Something something Ki reduction
>Break

Is it possible for me to reforge the Break into Close Combat Damage?
I've tried reforging now hundreds of times, but I just seem to not get it
Am I just unlucky, or is it not possible?
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>>169792020
IIRC f a m bonus and CC damage are in the same pool, so no.
>>
Why isnt there an option to hide your helmet on your Willy?
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>>169792020
You can't because CCD and Familiarity are in the same pool.
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>>169792253
but there is, did you even look for it
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>>169792253
but there is
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>>169792209
FUCK
Then I have to get rid of the Senpai BD since I recalled an anon saying here it only gives you like +15% increase, while CCD can give you up to 20%
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>>169792253
Are you blind?
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>>169791857
Thanks boss, you the real mvp
Also that throwing cards/money emote cracked me the fuck up.
You should add me
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>>169792374
no problem m8

I recommend you go back at some point and try him again solo, co-op is fun and all but you'll never get better that way
>>
Could someone explain to me how the fuck people farm two kings NG+ for gear? I'm literally hitting these faggots for AT MOST 4k damage.
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>>169792687
Daiba-Washi
Stack Guardian spirit talismans
I can destroy them in less than a minute that way, it's hilarious
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>>169792687
this is how i do it
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>>169792601
I have beat most bosses on my own, and umi I've gotten pretty low three or so times solo but couldn't quite finish it. Youre right though, ill definitely go back and solo her.
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>>169792932
yeah umibozu is the first big speedbump in the game, but once you figure it out the only thing that'll ever kill you in that fight is underestimating how much space you've got to move around
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Ty based god
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how do i transfer luck on a headpiece onto another piece of armor?
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>>169792805
>>169792792
No, when I say I do at most 4k, I mean critical. I couldn't take them down with 20 guardian talismans doing my shit damage. What's preventing me from doing high crit damage?
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>>169793345
The luck has to inheritable (|>|). Then you have to max familiarity with said inheritable piece.
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>>169793304
>farming for days with almost 250 luck
>>
Good Fox Kabuto at NG+ Isle of Demons, one of the three revenants to the left of the starting shrine on the shore.
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>>169793402
Make sure to get kusa tree final blow up.
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>>169793304
>Feeling sure that an even fiercer battle lay ahead, I left that place.
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>>169793628
>tfw I have 5 without trying
(^:
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>>169793627
found out why it wasn't working

i raised familiarity with the wrong piece of headgear
back to farming revenants i guess
>>
can you have multiple willies and manage the saves like in souls games?
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>>169793743
kek
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>>169793731
got one too
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>>169793779
yes, but there was a bug that can overrite your save so back up your main save in case.
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>>169793738
Alright I'm out.
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>lv614 revenant
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can someone join Kuroda and test how strong the
>Close Combat Attack (Status Enhancement): D-
and whether stacking multiple effects increases the buff.
i don't want to lose my +20% living weapon damage just to test it
>>
>fextralife

i guess there's no decent wiki site up yet? does anyone have a liste of all the set bonuses?
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>>169793628
Same boat here famalama. Feels bad man.
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>>169794260
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Set+Bonuses
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>>169794260
>muh fextralife

This isn't soulsgen, fuck off.
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>>169794260
pretty ironic that you shit on fextralife when it's the only wiki that DOES have set bonuses
fucking moron

it's like when someone links to rebbit because they have hard data on how damage is calculated and there's always that one guy that refuses to look at it
>>
>>169794310
>>169793628
you guys are full of shit
>>
>>169794260
see
>>169776572
>>
Been playing light armor bad magic 1kat since the start (4th region now) and I'm bored out of my fucking mind.

I wanna switch over to just heavy armor and axe tank.
Do I just respecc into strength and stamina with a bunch of HP?

also: where do I see my level?
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>>169794395
that reddit tier css made by a 12 year old just pisses me off

>>169794393
thanks, i went to a specific sets own page and found out it was empty lel xD


also;

wikidot > fextrashit
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>>169794724
>literally a 'set bonuses' tab under armor that you were too retarded to find
>muh wikidot, despite the fact that they CLEARLY lack the info that you're using wikidot to check
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HOLY SHIT
I was thinking of getting the smithing text for the Master Swordsman's 2kat, and thought I could just try and farm him for an hour or two

I got it after one try, I shit you not. It just happened, holy fuck
>>
>>169792209
>>169792261
Is there a list of what shares a pool online somewhere?
>>
>>169794724
Nobody gives a fuck about your autism. If it bothers you make your own version and keep the garbage memes in your soulsgen containment board where they belong.
>>
Can the Yasakani Magatama come with things like treasure sense? Kind of want that for if I run levels properly.
>>
>>169793402
Do you have Sword of Execution?
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Send help. How the fuck do I beat The Two Kings mission?
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>>169795032
already explained in this very thread
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>>169795032
honda is passive and only rarely throws boulders

just drag shiggy away and fight him normally
then honda is an easy 1v1
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>>169794485
Fuck off nigger. It literally won't drop with like 200 luck. I've been trying for 2.5 hours.
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>>169793731
>mfw I can't find it
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>>169793304
>>169793628
>>169794310
Got one today from doing my first ever co-op and I didn't even get to kill anybody because it ended just when I arrived.

>>169795032
Shoot Honda in the face in the beginning and then go spearfall Shiggy's ass.
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>>169794985
yes
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>>169794871
>>169794974
it's all good, i don't mind using a shit site because i know someone makes a decent one sooner or later

also what's this hostility about souls and memes, why do you bring that shit to nioh general?
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>>169795189
and 10 cups every time?
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>>169795350
Fuck, guess I'll keep farming Trails of the Master until I get a Magatama with it even though I already have 2.
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>>169795449
>using cups for that shit
lmao
>>
>>169795391
>, why do you bring that shit to nioh general?

Nigger fuck off. You're the one that started with the garbage memes. Don't act like a prissy little bitch if you're too sensitive to be treated like one.
>>
>>169795449
i did at the start
but it's completely unsustainable, do you have any idea how many runs i've done?
>>
So does everyone save inheritable +attack gloves and transfer them to all other armor pieces?
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>>169795552
5 attack pieces is like 100 damage max
which is barely 8% on like a +4 weapon, let alone +10

elemental damage reduction, elixer heal, run speed, ki reduction are all way better
>>
>>169795449
>cups
What're you, retarded?
>>
Any good way to farm divine + ranged weapon?
Shiggy rarely drops it.
>>
>>169795708
increases the chance of divine items, what's retarded about that?
>>
Kingo meme
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>>169795745
Way of the Ninja has a guaranteed Divine Ranged when you beat it, it's easy enough to where you can probably do about 15 in an hour.
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>>169795812
>He doesn't know.
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>>169795882
Toally forgot about dojo mission.
Cheers mate.
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>>169795525
>call a shit site shit
>it's somehow a "meme" that literally gets to people

damn this forum sometimes
>>
>>169795287
same :(
>>
>>169796026
>this forum
Straight outta reddit huh?
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>>169795189
>200 luck
Try 350
>>
>>169795964
can you stop posting this picture, it's not as good as you think?
>>
>>169795868
Did somebody make a video about Kingo build or something because now all the revenants have that.
>>
>>169796152
I never see any Kingo memers

I only see Suzaku and Red Demon meme
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>>169795812
>0 cups
>Farm 3 revs
>Ave. ~6 drops

>10 Cups
>Farm 5 revs
>Ave. ~5 drops.

Yeah, it's totally worth it anon.

>>169796026
I feel you anon, it's become a real life sitcom between the cucks, redditfags and autists.

>>169796205
That's because Kingo's don't die :^)
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>>169793731
Hahaha. Fuck I found the guy with only the helmet and a sword and he only dropped ochako.
>>
What is that last shrine option and how do you unlock it?
>>
>>169796248
cups don't affect revenants
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>>169796318
Get to NG+.
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>>169796318
Beat the game.
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>>169796147
>Stop posting this picture
>this picture
>this

You didn't post a picture.

Or did you mean to say "that picture"?
>>
>>169796318
Enhance Guardian Spirit? Beat the game.
It's really disappointing, the buffs are miniscule
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>they said 160's are harder to get
>get one in 30 forges

kek
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>>169796408
this
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>>169796347
Oh, really?

I would have never though of that, weird that it doesn't affect the main source of getting divines. Maybe I shouldn't use Ochoko cups then.
>>
>>169796429
spider is like +25 luck

but the rest are shit
>>
>>169796553
You still didn't post anything.
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>>169796590
man you are retarded
>>
>>169796618
im buffing my bat for maximum kingo memeing
>>
Any anons need help?
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>>169796590
How iwll you get + gear, anon?
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>>169796728

>Being this fucking dense.

Early retirement man, consider it.
>>
>>169796835
the discussion was about farming yasakani magatamas
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>>169796685
i'm just keeping you occupied, cuckface
>>
>>169796550
Do you have to use divine fragments to get them, or can you just use regular smithing materials?
>>
So when you get smithing text for armor you can craft the entire armor set, but does the same go for weapons or does each one have an individual smithing text?
>>
>>169797325
Weapons have individual texts.
>>
Nobody got inheritable CTA stamina to share?
>>
>>169796146
Do you have an inheritable luck armor piece you could drop for me? That's the one thing I don't have to stack luck.
>>
>>169796961
>Have a full mental breakdown every time an image is posted.
>I-I'm j-just keeping y-you o-occupied

Who hurt you, anon.
>>
>>169797369
I want one too senpai.
>>
Anyone want inheritable close combat +20%? With familiarity
>>
For Kingo meme should you go full skill or full heart
>>
>>169797571
lol did i hit a nerve here

also, forgot your pic, gaylord
>>
>>169797670
heart
1kat scales mainly with heart
>>
>>169797670
for 1kat/ 2kat or kuri, go with whatever the main stat is for that weapon and also get an A+ cta for that stat
>>
>>169797651
Sounds good. Yes please, isle of demons ng+?
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>>169797798
Not the image guy, I'm just pointing out how retarded you sound.

Nice melt down though.
>>
>>169797161
regular. Also, don't look at the lv number of the weapon when forging, you can look at the attack of the weapon. Just better to not strain your eyes since the level number is so small (unless you have a 60+ inch screen or something)

Might still need to craft stuff with demon horns to get. I crafted hakujin kusa, same thing I did for my 320 on other char before nerf
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>>169796590
FOOLISH SAMOORAI
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>>169798034
Arright, going for a swim behind spawn. Ive never done this before but i assume i equip only the sword?
>>
>>169798154
dont bully kelley
>>
>>169798208
I imagine the drop chance of it will be higher than when wearing full armor.
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>>169798208
Wear full armor.
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>>169798105
atleast i made you stop posting that pic
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why is there so little fan art?
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>>169798630
>He doesn't know.
>>
>>169798208
Was that the Hoshi-kiri Tachi? If so thanks.
>>
I wish they had localized the weapon names I can't fucking recognize any of these by name
>>
>>169798291
>>169798380
Alright i died next to the crate over on the beach. Guardian spirit is bunny. Do i have to pick up my grave for it to register?
>>
>2 Yasakani Magatama in 10 minutes
None of them have what I want though god damn
>>
>Saika fight
>Hot Spring mission immediately after

My sides
>>
>>169798208
>Ive never done this before but i assume i equip only the sword?
>>169798380
>I imagine the drop chance of it will be higher than when wearing full armor.
Nope, on summon the rng determines the slots that will drop, slows with gear in them don't weigh heavier, so if you wear just a weapon you'll just get nothing if it doesn't roll a weapon slot.
>>
>>169798992
is it possible for them not to have set bonus effects?

if i finally got one without it i'd probably drop the game
>>
>>169798863
>>169798958

Yep that was it, np
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>>169798958
Got both your rev drops and swords from both. Thank you!
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>>169798992
I fucking hate how people get them so easily but it is taking me hours. Many wasted hours I could be actually enjoying the game.
>>
>>169799075
All the 4 Yasakani I've gotten so far have had the set bonus down, so I'm absolutely sure it's a guaranteed effect on the Yasakani.
Problem is, I just want treasrue sense.

>>169799168
I don't even have that much luck specced, It's like, +190 luck or something on the status screen after the Luck talisman.
>>
>Twilight Way of the Strong Watcher in the Darkness
>mfw those Saika Mercs during the Magoichi battle
TWO FUCKING CANNONEERS SPAWN WHEN HE'S AT LOW HP. FUCKING FUCK.
>>
>>169799229
Wtf. I literally have +210 and I'm using the luck talisman before I pick it up. I haven't gotten one after 2 hours.
>>
>>169799119
No problem friendo.

Also why are these captchas fucking annoying
Is it because im on ps4?
>>
how much toughness do you gain from going 150>160 for armor? whether by the armor or the toughness stat. I'm so close to 200 that it's annoying me to the point I'm willing to get 160 armor.
>>
>>169799229
>treasure sense

why though?
>>
>>169799229
The fuck you want treasure sense for.
>>
>>169799076
>>169799119
Shit, I don't see it. Should I reload mission or something?
>>
>>169799378
I got my first Yasakani yesterday from just farming gold on Ginchiyo's request, then farming for an hour or so on Trail yielded my second. Some time under an hour later my 3rd, then 10 minutes later the 4th.

RNG is a finicky bitch.

>>169799564
>>169799607
I like going through levels knowing where shit is, and I don't tend to rush on my first time through. I haven't done many of the Twilight missions yet, or the Way of the Strong missions. So I figured I may as well.
>>
>>169799715
When you clear all revs go to shrine, click on summon visitor but don't summon and back out to see if more revs popped up. Someone said there a 5min refresh for revs no matter where you at though.
>>
I'm currently running a ton of boosts to Skill Damage, Skill Break, and Skill Ki Reduction and I can spam whirlwind (into Sign of Cross) until anything dies. However, I hardly EVER see any Revenants running Master Swordsman or Genius Strategist sets. It's all just Kingos, Red Demon shitters, and ShigeDiggys.

>Decide I want to get a green set of Tatenashi
>Apparently there's no smithing text for it?
>Fine, people in /niohg/ are saying fight revenants on the bridge
>Not a single revenant drops any Tatenashi

Does Honda drop that shit? Am I better off just murdering him over and over?

Also, I'm currently at about the +3 stage of Divine Weapons. I don't know how to get them much higher than that. Do I just forge Divines until I get lucky and land, like, 7 of them that are higher than +3? For some reason, I thought you could fuse equal-level ones and figured this would be way, way easier.

Are there any Kusarigama with set bonuses? Any Hand Cannons with set bonuses? Seems like a really poor design decision if not, given that Yasakani Magatama breaks this shit wide open.

I've been toying with builds and also think a Paralysis build with the Hino Enma bonus damage to Paralyzed enemies could be really, really strong. Set up for grapples all day n shit. Anyone else building that?

TLDR:
>How Do I get +10 Divines?
>Best way to get Tatenashi?
>Any set bonuses for KG or Cannon?
>Any other cool builds to try?
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>>169799715
Gonna die next to the crate again
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>>169799924
I've gotten all of my tatenashi from revenants. Now too I'm currently killing revenants on isle of demons ng+ there's been a couple of revs with tatenashi.
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>>169800064
Would you be willing to drop the pants? Only piece in missing of tatenashi.
>>
>level 86
>rec level is 111
>getting 3-shot by weenie skeleton men

Should I levelup somewhere before continuing? Side mission is 107 and that's wrecking my ass, too.
>>
What's the best Amrita farm?

I'm currently staying at level 120 just so Revenants are considered 'harder' and drop me better gear. Does your relative level to a revenant also change the glory gained?

I'm also building high Spirit because I really love using LIVING WEAPON. It reminds me a lot of Onimusha.
>>
is there something special about tatenashi gear?
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>>169800362
Yes, you gain more glory based on how hard it rates the difficulty to you.
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>>169800262
I'll go drown on the beach right from where you start the mission. I have an axe and spider guardian.
>>169800378
Well it's the heaviest set in the game and there's equipment weight damage bonus A on the set. Not that it's very much damage. It's also the best looking armor.
>>
>>169800362
>staying at level 120 just so Revenants are considered 'harder' and drop me better gear
Is there actual proof for this?
>>
>>169800507
really?
if i make myself level 1 and die in coop will I lose all my amrita?
>>
>>169800000
Thanks a bunch man.
>>
>>169800598
I've read that they more 'difficulty swords' are beneath a revenant, the higher their drop rate is for gear.

No clue if true, though, but relative level DOES seem to affect glory.
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>>169800598
sounds like a tinfoil hat theory to me

i've killed few lv750 revenants and they all dropped "shit" gear, because those players have every single of their gear pieces reforged to the best rolls and those reforges do not carry over to revenants
>>
can you roll attack on gloves that already have increased atk + def for a specific weapon type
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>>169800550
You mean isle of demons NG+ correct? Thanks famalama
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>>169800942
Yeah
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>>169800598
Seems to be the case, from what I've tested.
Go beat a '1 sword' Revenant--I usually get a single item or two.
When I beat a 5-sword Revenant, I get tons of loot.
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>>169800915
nope, they share the same pool
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>>169800907
The gear itself is the same, you just have a better chance of getting more of it.
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>>169800614
>really?
He's full of shit, I just backed up my save, used a book to reset to level 1, went into NG+ demon castle and killed some level 300 revenants and I was getting the exact same amount as when I was 240.

Glory is determined by revenant level, not by player level.
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>>169800000
I got it this time, thank you anon.
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>>169801027
>tfw only the dev revs have five swords
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>>169801275
Not true, I just beat a level 750 5-sword rev on Isle of D.
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>>169800987
I accidentally blasted you off the edge with genbu :/
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>Used over 6 million gold, and over 300 divine fragments
>Still no CCD 20%
I can't inherit it either because my weapon already has inherited CtA X A+, which I want to keep
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>Just beat a revenant who dropped FULL Tatenashi for me

Thanks, OrigamiCrane.
You're a cool bro.
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>>169801642
Just got him too. Got those pants :)
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>>169801642
fuck you, i've been trying to get that set for ages
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anyone need CTA A+ for dex weapon? gonna start playing soon and could leave a rev
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>>169801642
>>169801705
>>169801775
Can someone gimme a quick rundown on Tatenashi?
What makes it so good?
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>>169801642
>>169801705
No problem.
>>169801775
I left my revenant on the beach in Isle of Demons NG+
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>>169801898
Ya what makes it better than Obsidian set?
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>>169801898
gives a ton of defense
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I had 3mil amrita when I ended a mission in yokai realm with a friend, when we started the next one it said I have 0. Is this a bug or something? Did I really just lose 3 million?
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Is there any way to 'reset' the revenants in an area?
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I just drowned on isle of demons near the start with full tatenashi, negro samurai axe with A stamina, f a m bonus A, skill ki reduction, guard reduction, wind, and final blow damage. Sakons spear also with f a m A, body A, guard ki reduction, cc ki reduction, lightning, cc ki damage.

Hope this helps some anons out. I think it'll only drop the axe, but let me know if anyone wants the spear. Pic related
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fun fact, tatenashi can be translated as "can't get it up"
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>>169801898
Lots of defense, good set bonuses, s'bout it.

>>169801828
Leave one on Isle of Demons, I'll take it. It'd be nice to have.
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>Doing two kings nioh in yokai realm because I'm tired of trying to farm them solo
>Get summoned to help this guy
>Everything works fine
>We take out spearchuk
>Take muneshige down to 10%
>All of a sudden muneshige goes turbo nigger, literally teleports around the map so fast that you can't see him move and one-shots both of us (On separate sides of the map) simultaneously.

What the actual fuck just happened?
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>>169801898
The 5 piece set bonus gives like 30% elemental damage reduction and 13% damage reduction plus 2 piece set bonus gives 2.6% damage reduction. I'm sitting at 48% damage reduction and 37% elemental damage reduction right now
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>>169802114
Are these skills reforged?
I don't think you get the reforged skills.
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>>169802179
Culprit of bad connection.
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>>169802042
the amrita you gain when summoned with someone gets transferred over to your character after you clear a mission
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>>169799721
Is Ginchiyo gold farming viable without the move speed buffs? + gold earned doesn't affect the mission rewards does it?
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>>169802114
Damn your revenant was bitch to kill.
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>>169802114
What username/spirit?

I'd love that spear.
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I've no fucking clue how soul matching works
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>>169802114
TaeBongKim?
If so, thanks, 'cus I just got a great set from him.
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>>169802246
Aw you don't? Yeah they are. Shit.
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>>169802523
If we got the same guy, yeah. It took knocking him down 4 times straight. I normally Final Attack revenants for about 5000, but I was only getting 2000 on him.
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is todo the best clan?
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What's there to do once you beat the game?

Way of the strong seems kind of pointless
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>use warrior of the meme armor
>havent changed it since beating shiggy, except when i obtain higher defense pieces, but still warrior of the west.
>just beat okatsu
I seriously feel like i should have different armor by now. What did you guys use around this time?
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>>169802887
This one, right?
>>169802665
Jesus took the same amount of knocking him down for me too.
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>>169802980
Armor depends on your build.

There's no reason not to use set armors.
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>>169802517
I'd say it's still viable since I spent some time just running through at 70% encumbrance with only 9.9% dash buffs on the legs and foot armour. Having Gyoukuto and speed talisman really helps though. Also yeah, I'm pretty sure gold buffs don't affect the end mission reward.
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>>169802972
become op as fuck and help people with coop or stop playing and wait for the dlc
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>>169802972
Have fun? I'm doing all the WotS mission with yokai realm because I enjoy it.
Also not that much time left before Nier 2 and Persona 5 arrives so squeezing out as much as I possibly can.
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>>169802661
>Put in two items
>Item 1 is the one you want to upgrade
>Item 2 is the one you want to get rid of in order to upgrade Item 1.
>Item 1 will lose all familiarity on it.
>Item 2 will disappear completely.
>If Item 2 is higher level, Item 1 goes up to its level
>If Item 2 has MAX familiarity AND an inheritable skill that doesn't overlap with any skills on Item 1, Item 1 will 'inherit' that skill.
>Soul Forging the same piece of gear more than once gets insanely expensive
>Soul Forging across many levels costs a ton of money, too.

Now, when you're making Divines:
>Soul Forging cost doesn't increase each time like before
>Soul Forging between the SAME TYPE of gear lowers the cost by a bit
>Soul Forging between the SAME NAME gear lowers the cost a ton
>If you Soul Forge with an item 2 with MORE divine levels, your Item 1 will gain 1 Divine Level, up to a max of +10.

Aaand that's about it. I also just realized I wrote 'soul forging' instead of 'soul matching'. Huh.
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>>169802549
Genbu spirit.
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>>169803147
What does divine level do

also is it possible to get more skill than just the one interchangeable one
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>>169802767
Ever got a weapon of high rarity without skill from a revenant?
That's what happens.
I'll try to drop your stuff and will give a better answer.
Isle of demons, right?
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>>169802887
What guardian spirit did he have? I've got genbu the turtle.
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>>169802980
Whatever heavy armor I had lying around, I eventually settled to kaido then obsidian.
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What the hell do I do with all the glory?
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>>169803706
Ochoko cups and kappa shells.
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>>169803706
kappa shells
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>>169803245
Divine Level is just like getting 10 extra levels on your gear over the maximum. The higher level your weapon, the better EVERYTHING on it can get, and it's something to work towards.

You can only ever inherit the interchangeable skill. For this reason, it's probably not worth it to even consider using any gear that doesn't have a full set of skills on it. When forging gear, try to forge one that has a full set of skills or 1 short of a full set, but no inheritable skill so you can fill that empty slot with one.

All in all, Soul Matching is a way to hold on to really clutch pieces of gear you find early on, but it's prohibitively expensive and really only becomes a major mechanic in post game.

I'd suggest maybe soul matching every 10 or 20 levels for gear you like, but crossing a level gap higher than that costs so much it's not really worth it and crossing one lower than that is pretty much a waste.
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>>169803752
>>169803762
Not him but what do kappa shells do
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>>169803706
transformations
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Would familiarity dmg bonus A+ be better than CC damage +20%?
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>>169803350
>>169803189

Dark Spirit Ty is a Genbu-spirit user I've been getting some Tatenashi from. No clue if it is you, but if so, thanks guy.
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>Trying to get purple kingo armor on NG
>Farm the centipede for about 30 mins
>All armor that i crafted with the drops are all white and yellow
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>>169803865
Not that anon but got all transformations and gestures and have 200k glory just sitting.
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>>169803861
Sake
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>>169803861
make amrita farming sake
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>>169804010
That's me senpai. Hope my revenant uses the protection talisman I have equipped lol.
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>>169802114
Id love that spear too did you drown in NG or NG+?
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>Start the game
>One of my boons is a Prayer Beads with +50 Luck, CtD (spirit), and Stealth for Yokai

I have yet to find a better accessory other than Yasakani Magatama.

In fact, I've yet to find an accessory with more than 20 Luck on it.
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How does damage bonus (less armor) work?
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>>169804048
>>169804056
How long does the buff last?
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>>169804179
NG+
unfortunately some of the effects (all the good ones) are reforged which someone said don't get traded. I did die with it once though.
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Hey guys, I've yet to finish the game yet..I know, salarycuck and familycuck in the way...

Anyone can tell me the diff between NG and NG+? Can I jump straight into NG+ right after finishing the game?

Should I even bother doing side quest in game right now and power up, or just straight try to finish the main quest and go into NG/NG+?
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>>169804323
quite a while, you need it if you don't want to spend forever grinding to reach 750
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I ended up giving up on the Yasakani with treasure sense roll. Any case, anyone interested in any of these two weapons? CtA Skill is because I'm using a 2kat main build. The second effect on the 2kat is Close Combat Attack Ki Reduction.
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>>169804174
Are you the same guy who was talking about dropping that good spear earlier in the thread? I'd like that spear.

And thanks! I just kinda Daibi-Washi hosed you, but I'll challenge you again for a real fight in a second.
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>>169801634
Another 6 million and 300 fragments wasted.
The closest Ive been was 15.7%. Im starting to think that 20% might be a myth ;_;
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>>169804349
I think it either bugs out or the weapon reverts to original forged/dropped skills.
Trying to drop your to be 100% sure, but your rev is holding them tight. 2 kills already.
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>>169804449
you can roll different sense effects on helmets if you're that desperate for one
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>>169803895
no CC damage 20 is slightly better though the end difrence is like 0.5% atleast from my testing with axe in multiple stances
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>>169804570
I already have enemy sense on the helmet. I don't exactly need treasure sense but it's really nice for me to have.
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>>169804508
it's 20% at max familiarity
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>>169804508
Just wondering does the effect grow with familiarity.
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>>169804672
I have max familiarity
Im just very unlucky
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>>169804428
Do all the sidequests. They will often net you permanent Skill items (the hair drops) as a first-completion reward.

NG+ boosts all the enemies (they hit harder and have more health), adds more enemies, and rewards better gear. Notably, you start getting green gear (divine) and can get that all the way to level 150 and upgrade it to get a special 10 extra levels.

Everything carries over, including Kodama found, so just play the NG thoroughly, then move to NG+ at your own leisure.

One fun thing to do is, once you beat NG, use the book to respec and make a completely different build to play NG+ on.
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>>169804764
i have a 15% (20 with max) CCD inherit spear. gonna drown in isle of demons start with Hi-nezumi so good luck with that
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Damn I just realised that Ken sama died in prologue
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Quick question, when doing inheriting for weapons the finished form tab only has lower stat values because the weapon isn't at max senpai, right?
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>>169804508
Just get famalam bonus A+. It gives the same attack boost as CCD 20% at max famalam and much easier to obtain.
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>>169804349
Man, I think your grave cycled. Can you refresh it, please?
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>>169805051
>It gives the same attack boost as CCD 20%
Are you sure? Do you have proof?
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New nioh player here, I feel like my dps sucks majorly compared to other players, I always have to take my time and chip away at big mobs (bosses take aaaages) but I just summoned a player in and he just steamrolled through my level like it was nothing, 3-shotting everything.

Am I missing something important about damage? I'm playing with swords and keep my weapons up to date, upgrading every ~10 levels.

Also, is there any point in keeping your weapons with max familiarity?
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>Cleaning up titles
>Finally finish
>Check them out
>See this
>Remember that one retard braging how he beat hino-enma "The hardest boss in the game"

Was she really that much of a casual filter?
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>>169805205
You probably summoned a 100+ level player.
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>>169803064
Maybe I just have to get used to running the mission and figure out where exactly the charm spawn points are. If anyone is wanting a tanuki helmet, I'm dropping my revenant in ginchiyo's request on the hill to the left of the shrine. Clan Furuta and Gyokuto gs.
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>>169805175
Someone post the webm for this anon.
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>>169805314

There's no level ranges like Souls?

Also, is there info about skill softcaps and such? atm im pumping my points in Skill and Heart
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>>169805205
Weapons at max familiarity have superior stats. All their little percentages and attack multipliers turn blue and increase.
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>>169805205
>I just summoned a player in and he just steamrolled through my level like it was nothin
end game player helping you for glory
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>>169805582
>There's no level ranges like Souls?
No.
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>>169805582
Nope, a lvl 150 with full out +10 to everything can get summoned into NG.
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>>169804831
Thanks for the input! What levels do most people finish NG in average? I'm at the point where it takes me forever to level up now, and the level requirement (I'm at the Oni region already) is around 115ish.. (I think I'm at level 107).
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>>169805678
>lvl 150
Meant 750.
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>>169805719
you are overleveled
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>>169805319
Make sure you have treasure sense so you can take a look at the minimap to quickly know whether the chest you need is there.

From the starting point, run up towards the shrine in the middle. Check to see if there's a chest on the right side.
If not, continue to the stone doors behind the shrine where the Youkai is. Open it, and you generally have to tank a hit from him. Drop down the two ladders and if there's no chest in front of the pillar where the Nurikabe is, emote the Nurikabe to get past quickly. I usually go for negative>neutral whistle because I rarely see a positive emote Nurikabe there. Go past the Nurikabe, then run up the stairs to the last chest on the left side.

That's basically how you speed run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XMllYEbDiE
It's basically what this guy does, but I use the Nurikabe to get a shortcut and kill if I don't succeed.
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Man I'm really kind of irritated that I can't get 100.0 for smithing texts. I've got everything in the pastebin (except tatenashi since we don't know if it drops) and the himo mask since it's not listed but I don't know what else to try farming now.
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>>169805816
Seriously? What level were you when you finish NG?

I'm by no means an expert or a good player, so maybe I do need to be overleveled to git gud.
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>>169805719
Don't bother staying around the level missions are. If you find you've got too much excess Amrita, that's okay--you can spend it in NG+ to upgrade your guardian spirits.

I completed the NG at level 100.

Overlevelling isn't really an issue, though, since the game has such low softcaps on all the stats.
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>mfw I want to get all the "5 Greatest Swords" to +10 with +A Heart Scaling

This is hell.
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How do you all farm the bathhouse
magatama? I just got there, pick the corpse and branch out if I dont get it but I have seen webms here of people resetting the item spawn with the shrine but I cannot do it.
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>>169806115
Why?
Literally for what fucking purpose.

Also, you don't really get a right to complain about your autism.
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>>169805969
Time to be the first one to find the missing ones m8, I'm collecting the smithing texts too and I'm never stopping until I find the last one
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>>169806392
Pick up the item, if its not what you want, quit game and load.
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>>169806401
>Why?
They're objectively stronger than most other swords. They boast better parry/break stats and usually have marginally higher attack than most. They're meant to be "better" than swords that are part of armor combos. Having a complete set would mean I have the best sword for each element.
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>>169806392
From starting point you go directly to the room with the corpse and check what loot it has. If no Magatama, go to the shrine and pray (making sure you didn't pray to it at the beginning). Then go back to the corpse and check, if nothing good again then take the non-accessory item and go back to the shrine. Check the corpse again and if nothing, fragment/branch out then try again.
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>>169806517
thats not how it works anon
>roll item 3 times
>branch out
>go again
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>>169804460
I'll drop the spear for you. Sorry I was reforging my armor, stopped paying attention to the thread. You might not get all the effects since its reforged. I heard that's a thing unfortunately. But go to Isle of Demons NG+ and I'll drown by the boat.
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>>169805841
That clears things up pretty well. Thanks anon.
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>>169805064
Yeah I'm heading there now.
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>>169805969
Do you have texts from all the mystic art bosses? Do you have the digital deluxe edition texts?
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>>169806548
and let's not forget how fucking stylish they are. They're the most unrealistic and fantastic of any of the swords.
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>>169804449
>only 14 water at max familiarity
Holy shit, that's bad.
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>>169806758
Got it, thanks. And yeah, it only has the forged bonuses, it seems.
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REAL QUESTION:

What's the best way to get a ton of Nikawa Glue?

Because fuck getting all these different gloves to +999 Familiarity just so I can kit my whole gear set out with +Attack or Unlimited Nin/Ohmyo
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>>169806115
I'd be happy just to have the full set in Divine. I can't find them anywhere.
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I've got a Hoshi-kiri Tachi (nigger samurai set katana) with inheritable 20% close combat damage (found it, not reforged). It has no element, but does anyone want it? I'm at Isle of Demons, let me know if you want me to drop it.
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>>169807576
I'm just trying to track down a Juzumaru
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>>169807558
i'm wondering this too, so far i haven't been able to find a spot to farm it. Sometimes tome has it as a special find though.
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>>169806548
>objectively stronger
(No)
>>169807106
>stylish they are
What is refashion?
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>>169807643
>(nigger samurai set katana)
have some god damned respect when you talk about the OG yasuke
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>>169807558
you can farm some missions in way of the strong or play missions with human enemies, the big humans drop them
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>>169807329
I was considering trying to get something else but I can't be fucked trying to go through reroll hell again on a new craft to fix shit up for a katana I won't use that often.
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>>169807750
>>169807558
If I recall correctly, theres a mission which gives Nikawa Glue as a reward
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>>169807558
Buy it from Tome.

>he doesn't check Tome's stock after every successful mission
I have shitloads of hamaya arrows, roaring gun ammo and explosive rounds, not to mention whetstones and glue from simply checking her stop often.

>>169807773
Refashion is for pleb.

And they are objectively stronger. Go do a comparison. Their base stats are better than other swords by a small margin.
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>>169806658
>He doesn't know.

Oh boy.
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>>169807750
I think the best way is to just max Tomoe's special finds and just keep farming quick dojo missions and checking back each time (I'm trying to get the Iga Ninja smith texts, for instance).

Otherwise, my previous farm for it (and killing humans with various weapons) is the shrine right before you fight Mitsunari Ishida on NG. There are about 12 bandits there and horn-blowers that make them all come to you. The samurai-type enemies drop them from time to time. Stack luck, human item drop, etc.
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>>169807886
>Refashion is for pleb.
Just because you have autism, doesn't mean the function doesn't exist.
>And they are objectively stronger.
*Subjectively
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>>169808068
>*Subjectively
nothing subjective about numbers kiddo. It's got better numbers.

They're the strongest.
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Does your toughness increase if you go from 150>160 armor? Really need to know
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>>169808171
Just check the stats, man.
Toughness is a stat on armor.
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>>169808110
>nothing subjective about numbers kiddo.

So global warming objectively isn't real because this winter Texas had real record low temperature numbers. Okay.
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>>169808306
>Deflecting with this bullshit

Your analogy isn't even functional anon. You're presenting a flawed understanding of the phenomenon and then condemning the idea because it doesn't match up with your pleb understanding of it.
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>>169808306
Holy shit, not even that guy but you need to seriously kill yourself for having such retarded logic
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>>169808264
I don't have a 160 to check. Asking if I should attempt it if you gain toughness, whether the stat increases or whatever, does it increase is what I'm asking?
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>>169808306
Global warming is objectively fake as fuck
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>>169808387
>>169808450

My analogy is that numbers YOU experience are not the representation of the overarching whole. But your bitch ass can only scream logical fallacies so you can't comprehend this.

JUST BECAUSE YOUR WEAPON IS BETTER THAN THE SHIT YOU GOT UP TO THAT WHOLE DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE OBJECTIVELY BETTER YOU IGNORANT FUCKING NIGGER.
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>>169808306
>MUH GLOBAL WARMING
what does that have to do with damage statistics on fictional nippon steel from a video game
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>>169808547
>>169808547
>JUST BECAUSE YOUR WEAPON IS BETTER THAN THE SHIT YOU GOT UP TO THAT
I can compare it to a divine level 150 of pretty much any other other type of katana and the stats are usually superior.
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>>169808613
see >>169808547
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>>169808547
Oh shit it's this guy again
>>
Don't reply to underage bait. Please.
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>Do youkai realm and help a guy through umi-bozu
>Get 200ish glory
>Do random encounters
>Help another guy with umibozu
>Get 500 glory
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>>169808662
>I can compare
So its objective... based on your subjective experience?

So its subjective?

Is this really so hard for you retards to understand? Its not objective if its your experience, this isn't rocket science this is gradeschool common sense. Jesus fuck is this American education?
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>>169808882
>based on your subjective experience?
My numbers aren't subjective. They're the same numbers that any of you experience.
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>>169808945
>My numbers aren't subjective. They're the same numbers that any of you experience.
You're not arguing a mathematical formula, you're arguing the damage value on YOUR weapon, not on mine, not on any of the other faggots in here, you're arguing the damage difference that you percieve through gameplay. So its subjective.

Every weapon I found is better than the 5 swords, does that mean 5 swords are objectively garbage? No it means I haven't found any good 5 swords.

Come on dude, at this point you have to be pretending to be a fucking retard, nobody is this brain damaged.
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>>169808875
your second partner was more glorious
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>>169808875
Random gives more Glory, while Coop gives more Amrita in my experience
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>>169807872
>NG+ The Ocean Roars Again

Fuckin
No thanks.
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It'd be nice if Nioh had something like the Hater mechanic in Let It Die, where you can keep track of how many players your Revenant has killed and possibly get rewards for it.
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>>169809268
how many does it give?
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>>169809623
Why? Everyone would just have 0.

I mean serously, how many times did you die to revenants?
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>>169809678
>I mean serously, how many times did you die to revenants?

hahaha yeah
>>
>see people here farming shit
>100+ luck, sometimes 150+
>go farm a better yasakani
>check my casual luck
>200+
>I didn't even try. Not even in Furuta
Anyway, my actual real luck is terrible.
So not even 1000 luck would help
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>>169809678
>Everyone would just have 0
You know this isn't true. You can't possibly be part of this game's community and still think there aren't idiots who have died to revenants.
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>First time I fight Amygdala I die just before killing him because I get gibbed by the lasers and crystals
>Second time I gib him in 20 seconds

Well, that was a weird one. Beat the game I guess. Time to lose the rest of my life getting Divines
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>>169809816
Google hyperbole, it'll make your life easier in the future.

And yeah, I'm sure there are people that die to everything, but revenants are objectively the dumbest AI in the game that's the easiest to exploit and bully. Overall I doubt enough players die to them to justify the existence of a system which rewards it.
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>>169810050
Maybe you should fuck back off to soulsgen. ^___^
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Goodness lads.
The Adamantine axe skill + Steel Talisman + Rejuvenation Talisman + 50% damage reduction + 33% spirit protection + 359 toughness + 1800 defense (could be higher, armor is only +5 average) + 3270 life (kinda low I know but only level 160 with 10 body, 47 stamina) =

I'M UN-FUCKING-KILLABLE

I can literally stand there and let max level katana revenants whack on me and my life bar just refills before they can even make a dent in me. Its absolutely ridiculous. I can just let them drain their entire ki bar then low stance poke them with the axe into a one shot grapple. Shit's hilarious.
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>>169810228
I wouldn't be so sure. Your perspective is one of someone who's competent at the game, and I doubt that represents the majority.
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>>169809757
>thinks 200 is good

lmao
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I've got weapons with inheritable CtA Body, Heart and Dexterity, all A at zero familiarity. Anybody want?
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>>169810724
defense is overrated, you'll never deal as much damage as with a katana because sword of execution is op as fuck.
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>>169811047
Dex pls. Isle of demon way of strong.
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>>169811263
Grave should be right in front of the little gravestone next to the starting shrine. Good luck, m80.
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>>169811218
You can be extremely tanky. I don't think you realize how hard to kill you can become. But yeah, sword of execution is the best way probably to just kill things and do absurd damage. Can't argue with that.
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>50k final blow to shiggy and subaru
So damn good.
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>>169810890
200 is actually good yes.
If you consider I don't have any specialized gear, buffs, clans or living weapon amplified luck.
I could easily double that. Maybe triple.
But that would take effort. And I'm too lazy for it.
Its working pretty well and with minimum effort.
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>>169811497
Red memeon with Saoirse that die by poison?
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>>169811943
Goodness, no. Naked with Good Fox kabuto and kusanari that died by bandit.
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How many people kept playing into NG+? Higher monster health / damage never appealed to me but i want to keep playing Nioh.
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>>169812048
I guess yours haven't showed up yet.
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>>169812187
Different loot.
Occasionally enemy placement also differs.
Free coop(if you do every mission on ng)
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>>169812187
I didn't expect to find any appeal in New Grind Plus, but here I am on the Isle of Demons beach farming revenants for divine fragments and somehow enjoying it.
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>>169812268
You could try branching out and going back in. That's gotten specific revenants to show up for me before.

It can just take a while sometimes though.
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>>169812048
I found you, but I didn't got the fox kabuto.
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>>169804508
15% becomes 20% at full familiarity. Just so you know.
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>>169812187
I usually dont enjoy it either, but with Nioh its different
160+ hours, with Platinum, and I still enjoy it
I just like grinding for better gear, and cooping with other people
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>>169812187
>Higher monster health / damage

well that's always the case with ng+, but once you start leveling and really upgrading your gear, ng+ is actually a lot easier and smoother experience than ng

then you also get to the best part of the game, which is the constant effort to make your willy as good as possible
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>>169812048
Got it along with your fox kabuto
Cheers mate.
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>>169812692
You're welcome, lad. Make good use of it.

>>169812616
Sorry about that. Keep trying, I'm hanging around for a while.
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>>169812692
>>169812802
dang both times I checked it wasn't there, and now back at work.

Oh well, on the last mission hub anyway... gotta get to NG
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Thanks for all the dudes that put their fox helmet on Isle of Demons NG+.
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>>169812616
If it helps, I'm another anon, and I just offed myself on the other side of the shrine from the grave, in that little corner of rocks, wearing the fox helm and an inheritable dex kusa
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>>169813086
You were using the kingo set? Because I just killed a random revenant and he had the fox kabuto.
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>>169813224
It could have been me. My tag is Questing_Moo. I got a Fox kabuto from a different random revenant, and another from the guy offering his dex weapon
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>>169809268
that gives 1 and can be completed in under 2min
samurai from sawayama gives 3 and takes maybe 4min you could also wear the gloves while doing these so you can max a pair while getting glue
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Is there a particular kind of weapon that's more likely to come out as a +1 when you forge it? I just burned through 200 divine shards trying to make +1 axes because they're the cheapest to forge and didn't get a single one.
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>>169813398
Then it wasn't you, this had his name in caps and a random number.
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does anyone have the helmet guide?
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>>169814361
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Is the equipment weight damage bonus on the Tatenashi set a hidden buff? I don't see any change in my attack when I put on the require number of pieces
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what's the highest +X level weapon/armor that can drop?

i thought +5 was the highest but i just got +6 from shiggy & honda
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>>169814848
+6
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Do all weapons of the same type have the same reach?
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>>169815993
Maybe some weapons have different icons for a reason, I haven't bothered to test if it's true
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if i hide headgear is it hidden for everyone else too?
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>>169816637
I hadn't even noticed that there're different icons. It would be nice to know what they mean.
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>try to get CC ki reduction 20%
>the max I managed to forge is 11.9%
Fuck, I've been reforging this shit for days.
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What could my sword use to make it better?
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>>169817026
Do you really need parry? but looking at those special effects it seems is forged according to your play style so just be yourself
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>>169817026
I don't know what parry is tied to, but you could do better on that.

Also, +15 fire damange? Can't that be higher?
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>>169783283
What's wrong with high stance axe?
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>>169783283
i honestly don't care, i just play the game
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>>169817489
Also what's wrong with Kato? An extremely useful spirit for melee.
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>>169811218
>defense is overrated
The literal sea of graves from light armor players says otherwise.
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>>169817286
Not the same anon but
>Also, +15 fire damange? Can't that be higher?
I've never seen a weapon with more than base +14 of any element. What can it go up to?
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>>169815993
I tested axes and hammers, they both seem to have the same hotboxes and swing speed. Hammers have higher Break while Axes have higher damage.
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>>169818185
+15 and with max familiarity it goes up to +20
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>>169818185
I have base water +16 on my Ishida Masamune.
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>tfw
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>>169818734
respec? I've been thinking about doing it... but it's so many points to spend again
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>>169818734
w0w nice, leet gamr
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Do I have to beat some bosses and the like at least three times so I can hear all the dialogue and get the Amrita memories?
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>>169819870
Yes, co-op counts as well
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>>169819870
Alright thanks
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>>169819401
>>169818734
>w0w nice, leet gamr
>leet
>133715107 amrita
>1337
Z0MG!!!!11
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>>169817026
>Parry +13
its shit
>Fire +15
get +21, or else get that shit out of my face
>Killing Strike Damage +17.1%
meh, I guess?
>Mid Attack Break +16.6%
Good
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Yo faggots. Right now I'm running with 1kat and spear with half warrior of the west and half red demon. Thinking about ditch the spear and go on full 1kat samurai. Any tips?
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>>169820469
haze, tempest and backwave

learn them and win 1kat
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>>169820580
>Haze
wtf man, I'm suck at parrying shits.
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>>169819401
>>169820197
mad?
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>>169820691
that's unfortunate

1kat starts getting interesting when you start working in the counters
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>>169820691
Haze is way easier to do than backwave or tempest
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>>169821154
>>169821176
Dont understand how Tempest work, you just keep on bashing the shits out of your enemies guard? And what about stats? All in Heart?
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If you guys keep playing this you won't be able to replay it ever again from playing it so much, take it easy
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>>169821359
>Dont understand how Tempest work
As soon as you break your enemy's guard, you immediately hit L1 to slam them to the ground.
Backwave works in conjunction with it; you time your block in mid-stance so you guard just before they hit you, which knocks them off-balance. Then you immediately hit L1 again to trigger Tempest.

It sounds complicated, but once you start getting the hang of it, humanoid enemies and revenants start melting away.

>All in Heart?
Yes.
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>>169821359
It used to work like that in the beta and alpha, but now it just doesn't. I think I read somewhere you need to hit your own guard button when your attack connects with their guard
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>Way of the Strong Umi-Bozu
why

whyyyy

I won but I never want to do it again
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Do we have a ranking of least to most useful Guardian Spirit summons? Izuna seems fucking useless.
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>>169821760
>>169821713
>>169821359
to be perfectly honest you shouldn't ever be worrying about using tempest without backwave, the two are made to work together
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>>169822083

Depends entirely on what you are using them for.
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>>169821961
>mfw people don't seem to realise most of them have 20 or so fire amulets built up by that point
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>>169822083
most useful:
daiba
suzaku
atlas
genbu
paired raiken
shit:
izuna
usura
tengen (while not using living weapon)
hinezumi
kara-jishi
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>>169822284
The summon talismans, not passive effects. Should have stated more clearly.
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>farming that bath house magatama
>finally get it after 2 hours
>it has shitty effects but its okay I will reforge it
>you cant reforge accessories

My god. I dont want to go back.
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>>169822436
You are absolutely wrong about the lion.
The buff lasts for eternity and its pretty dang strong.
The guardian spirit talisman is garbage, except if you really want to electrify someone with an unreliable method.

And itokuri needs to be mentioned in useful. Farm buddies forever.
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Why are you guys spending so much time farming? It doesn't mean anything for this game
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>>169822180
Why even bother when you can just Haze 2 them and get a free final blow anyway
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>>169822689
he was asking about summons so i presume he meant the guardian spirit abilities. that's what my list is for.
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>>169822793
>w-w-why are you guys playing the game!!!
>s-stop having fun!!!
(you)
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>>169822484
Diaba Washi
Suzaku
Atlas Bear
Enko
Saoirse
Paired Raiken
Fuseshi

Are all good.
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>tfw finally beat oda + yuki onna fight
fuck that fight had me ripping NY hair out
now I can move on to way of the strong for the sweet sweet grind
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>>169822947
I tried Way of the Strong, levels were hardly different at all. Just spongy.
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>tfw you realize paralysis is utter garbage
I spent a lot of resources and time for my setup as well
>Hino-Enma helmet which gives +60% increased dmg against paralyzed enemies
>+21 paralysis on weapon
>Max level Itokuri
>even using Hemlock Broth
I can hardly ever proc it (literally impossible against humanoid enemies)
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>>169822484
Oh. The spirit talismans?
In my opinion:
Daiba-washi for sweeping humans
Raiken for soft stunning an area
Enko and Genbu do both a lot of damage and knock up
Tanuki is absolutely funny and also throw people at the ground
Shinka gives you hyper armor for days
Suzaku does decent damage, applies fire and melts Umi-bozu. In aoe.
Saoirse gives you divination and Pleiades.
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>>169823054
Ok, thanks for sharing your opinion, anon :-)
Now fuck off
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>>169822959
>fishtits
What does hers do?

>>169823003
I was disappointed with 2kangs and cloned kelleys / red eyes white prime minister.
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>>169823214
Levels were hardly different though, that's a fact.
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>>169822793
Because its fun to grow stronger.
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>>169823054
So just leave until DLC comes out? All this general will be talking about until then is the sickly sweet grind.
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>>169822793
Preparing for either PvP, that challenge/boss rush DLC, or the paid DLC
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>>169822927
Yeah. He worded weirdly.
I goofed.
Anyway, I agree with your list a lot then.
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>>169823346
is boss rush dlc confirmed?
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>>169823486
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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So why can William use the weird disguise magic Kelley can in the final mission?
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>>169823871
Because he stabbed the snake and it became his but it turns out it's weak as shit and can only disguise.
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tfw tome gives you a 160
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>>169824102
Well that sucks.
I wanted a cool snake.
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Holy shit she changed clothes! she looks so cute now!
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>>169822436
If you're running ninjutus, based batbro is all you'll ever need. 15% unlimited ninjutsu is nothing to scoff at
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>>169824261
Remember to talk to her and you'll eventually get the chance to compliment her clothes.
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>>169824225
Considering the only cool thing the snake did was summon orochi after having a billion fucking amrita? The snake was never cool.
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>>169824390
Are naruto supplies useful / fun?
I went omnyo and its good but i have 3x respec books.
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>summon revenant
>red memon armor
>first thing it does is sloth me

I shouldn't be surprised any more
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>>169824463
Dude I don't care, I just wanted a red snake. You could summon it and make it drain health / amrita in a bite.
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>>169824657
>go to a boss with some other guy
>he throws sloth and uses million other talismans
Every single time.
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>>169824758
>went omnyo
>never used sloth
Debate me shintoists.
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>>169824696
But that was all Kelley.
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>>169824887
I just wanted a cool snake spirit anon.
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>>169825082
Snake spirits are never cool. This is your punishment for even thinking they were ever cool.
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>>169824551
They get considerably harder to use properly in NG+, but yes
Kunai stagger everything, and between bombs/status shuriken/groundfire traps you'll be constantly poisoning enemies and setting them on fire
Ninjutsu turns you into batman, and you can prep yourself for almost any situation, and never die thanks to quick-change scrolls

I'm going to be depressed when I try something other than naruto shit, because it has more options than any other build
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>>169824463
I dunno man, it kind of stole someone else's guardian spirit
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>>169825208
I own foxes and snakes and birds. I think they're cool.
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>>169825208
Mizuchi the water dragon, means water snake.
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>>169825437
Kelley did that though.
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>>169825627
Alright, we're done here
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>>169825260
I kinda wanna use Yatagarasu or whatever and be a huge projectile fag. I can see it being rough on bosses though.
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>>169784256
>But you can only do that once
They patched in an item called "Koan Manual" that lets you redo your prestige points. Its piss cheap at the teahouse.
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>>169784438
Too bad once you get tatenashi, you never die again.
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>>169826323
can someone drop tatenashi please?
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>>169825781
Frugality, stock up on unlimited ammo skills, then dump points into the skills that boost firearm damage

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'd recommend waiting a few runthroughs to try it
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>>169826596
I just wish the gameplay was better for bows / guns.
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is there any way to delete patches?
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>>169826484
Nah, you never die again
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Going full throttle on an Onmyo build, had two questions somebody can hopefully answer;

Can +Onmyo Power be rolled/inherited on any piece of armor or is it locked to the Onmyo Mage armors elusively.

How does CtA Magic stack up against CtA Onmyo Power? I imagine they're both in the same trait pool but I don't know which would net more damage assuming I'm stacking both as high as possible.

Bonus question; Genbu or Hi-Nezumi?
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>>169825260
Magic has a lot of options too, especially if you go very high into it with genbu and stack onmyo magic power on your prestige points. I am sitting at 70 magic, and almost 600 onmyo magic power. This means I can inflict a status with 2 element shots on big yokai, and on bosses in 3 sometimes. I have 9 of each, and 25% unlimited onmyo just by rolling it on my armor, so its pretty hard to run out. Plus I have the guardian talisman to inflict water so it makes the second element easier.
With 70 magic you have enough points to invest in most of the magic passives, which are all very good, and also have lots of options. I went mainly for tanking/healing, but I have lots of projectiles, kekkai, and even extraction and sloth for bullying enemies.
Basically I can become unkillable with a combination of buffs including "the adamantine" axe skill. I just inflict discord, then run in and basically 2-3 shot everything.
Of course I could also play like a glass cannon or abuse the living weapon gauge talismans to have it available more often. I can also go full co-op mode with the element shots and healing, providing discord setup and health to my partner.
The only downside is that 70+ magic doesn't give you too much wiggle room on other stats, especially if you're doing a heavy armor tank. I'm basically locked into just leveling stamina and magic to 99 eventually. Not that I mind.
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>>169827050
if you have a physical copy but you have to remain completely disconnected from the internet and uninstall your current game
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>>169827079
even if you fall in water?
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>>169827202
see my rundown of my build here
>>169827227

I use genbu, but I also have stacked unlimited onmyo on my armor. I don't know about the dual katana, still trying to get a divine one. I heard it scales the melee damage off onmyo magic power, which would be pretty cool. I've never personally seen a CtA magic (stat), but I haven't been trying to roll it either. I went for the axe/tank path because I only really need magic and stamina for this build, and I can invest heavily in both without hurting by neglecting the other stats.
I've got 10 body/heart, 50 stamina, 30 strength, base skill and dex, 70 magic, and 22 spirit for genbu. I'm sitting around level 165. Feels pretty powerful. Onmyo is good, even as a primary stat. Expect to level a secondary stat though, unless you want to try and forge a CtA magic A yourself, in which case track me down and drop it for me PLEASE. Maybe spirit would be a good one because there's katanas that scale A with spirit everywhere, and it improves your living weapon and guardian talisman.
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What is the strongest Kusarigama?
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>>169827729
Forgot to say, I don't have an answer to your other two questions, sorry. I've never seen a rolled +onmyo power, and I don't have a CtA magic to test against the onmyo power duals.
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what things influence the drop rate of smithing texts?
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>tfw Im finally strong enough to run a efficient crit suzaku build
Getting over hundred million amrita per run is pretty fun
Now I just need to stock up on kappa shells and spirit stones
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>>169828059

material drop rate

kodama blessing of the hunter
<species> item drop rate


not sure about luck but probably
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Is there a more all around based spirit bro than Daiba?
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Just finished the 4th region, the fuck was with the bosses? Toad was pretty easy, ogress was really easy and just had lot of hp. Then came the shit castle stage and I was pretty hyped for 2 bosses.

First try honda does is rape my shithole and I'm starting to think that this boss will be tough. Then I noticed the fucking crystals in the room and thought that you had to break them as his hp regenerated. After 3rd crystal he insta dies and I am left with the biggest blue ball feeling ever.

Still girl boss left and I usually like humanoid bosses the most, should be good right. What a fucking shit show. It felt like fighting a revenant with a boss hp bar.

Still enjoying the game though, but holy fuck the bosses dropped in quality and difficulty. Someone told me they get easier as the game goes on so I'm pretty unhyped for the rest of them. Is there any really cool fight coming up or is it all downhill from here?
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>>169829214
Oda and his gf.

Also you get to 1v1 me Toyota faggot and later him and Moneyshiggy at the same time.
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>>169829438

Are the 1v1s from side missions?
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>>169829214
Saika, Mitsunari, Shima Sakon, Yagau, and Oda are all pretty good
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Eyyyyyy I just beat the game again in NG+
Now what?
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what's the requirement to forge 160 weapons? just clear a 320 mission?
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>>169829641

Nice, good to hear
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>>169829586
Yes.
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>>169823324

Offers you two buffs and nails a pretty good area in front of you with water damage - seems to apply the water debuff pretty easily. Two buffs are clairvoyance, marks everything on your radar for a good few minutes, and I think amrita on hit for a shorter period of time.
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>>169829643
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Does close combat atk damage also counts for grabs?
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how many highest quality kozanes is this faggot going to drop jesus christ
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This pretty good for farming Amrita in Demon King Revealed right? Just dropped while farming gold on A Request from Ginchiyo.
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>tfw when take 0 dmg
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>>169832104

>that feel when when

dumb toadposter
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>run about 10 320 missions
>nothing but +4 stuff
how the hell are you supposed to get up to +10? or am i supposed to be doing 320 twilight missions or something?
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>>169782736
Late reply I know, but which change to attack do you want? I have a Atagi Sudumane (if thats how you spell it) with CtA Heart at A+ as its inheritable trait.
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>>169832742
Dumb ass
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>>169832742
+4x2 = +5
+4x4 = +6
+4x8 = +7
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>>169831740
Holy fuck im jelly
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>>169814752
Yes
With the full tatenashi set, it's about a 12% damage increase.
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>>169834665
Alright, thanks
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Seriously, does inheritable change to attack stamina even exist? Should I just keep reforging and hope I get lucky? Don't see it happening on 2kat.
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>Made it to the 5th region in NG
>Every Revenent still have Red Demon and West armor

Why is it so hard to find a decent set of Kingo Armor?
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>Only just now found out the game has a talent tree half way through the game while looking for a leave mission button
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>>169837895
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>>169832930
I need stamina A, which no one seems to have

I have skill, body, heart, dex, strength A
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>Sawayama castle

I'm spooked and lost at the same time
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>>169837334

I've been playing through again and wanting to make some Kingo's but the centipede fangs are a real put off. 35% chance of exotic and you can't buy fangs for glory either. So that's probably why.
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>tfw thought salt was a joke item because it didn't do any damage to the yokai

>didn't realize till 10 hours in that it damages their ki
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>>169838570
Just wait until NG+ and make Kingos with the 85% chance
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>>169838659
dispels yokai field as well
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>>169838442
It is a pretty annoying level even after learning the full layout. Spawning into someone else's castle always throws me off.
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Damn Saoirse is pretty useless unless you decide to go full on farming with all onmyo talismans, gold armor and sake.
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>>169840515
She's the only spirit that can bypass the cooldown and has the tri-buff effect.

For pure farming you're better off with infinite Suzaku.
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>>169840691
tri-buff effect?
>>
>Want to finish way of the strong
>Realize I have shit luck and don't understand stats or what they do
Can you make it through without min maxing I'm in green legendary strargiest set with Kusanagi with +a in spirirt with 35 spirirt. Its AR is 841 only level 132
>>
>>169840806
lv doesn't matter
it isn't that hard
>>
>>169840798
Her guardian spirit attack/talisman gives you three buffs. Amrita per hit, amrita up in general, and one more that I can't remember what it does at the moment.
>>
Guys, I think the general populace finally made it to Ogress because that's all I'm being summoned for.
>>
>mfw I finally find a Munechika Minazuki
>It's divine
>But no inheritable slot

So.... is this just straight up worse? Will it accept inheritable skills upon soul match?
>>
>>169841584
Yes
>>
>>169841584
yes, if you max the familiarity of the gear with the inheritable stat
>>
>>169841584
what's so good about the munechika minazuki anyway
>>
>>169841768
okay good.

Now if only inheritable heart scaling A wasn't rare as fuck.

>>169841830
5 Great Swords: Lightning Edition.
>>
>>169841885
oh I can help you out there, I have like six weapons with inheritable heart A

want me to drop my revenant in isle of demons ng+
>>
>>169842075
Oh yes please.
>>
>>169841885
>5 Great Swords
What is this epik new meme?
>>
>>169842241
There's a set of 5 swords in the game

They're based on a real life set of swords and they're all:

>Pretty as fuck
>Elemental
>Slightly stronger than other swords
>>
>>169842417
How do I get them?
>>
>>169842584
Mostly rare drops. You can get the wind in divine rarity as a guaranteed reward for an NG+ mission though
>>
>>169842232
my grave should show up near the shrine

good luck
>>
>>169842670
Thanks buddy.
>>
>>169842946
you got it?
>>
Is there a particular level anyone would recommend sticking to? I've been leveling the fuck out of heart for more damage, I figure it doesn't matter for now since no PvP
>>
>>169843309
It doesn't really matter. You'll get enough points to do everything.
>>
>>169843103
Nah. Tanukis. Not swords.
>>
>>169843496
fuck you RNG

my guy has weapons with that skill on him so your chances are good
>>
>>169843753
>>169843496
has two weapons*
>>
>>169814461
>can't refashion other helmets to look like these helmets
>have shitty armor bonuses
>can hardly see them on the revenants they come from
What's the point???
>>
>tfw Ive pretty much forged over a thousand Mino-Den Dual Uchigatana and still no lvl 160
You got to be shitting me
Ive spent almost 3 days now trying to get one
Am I doing something wrong?
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>>169843869
>>169843753
So I'm not sure how to say this anon... Not only is this not Heart Scaling, it's not inheritable.
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>>169843923
You did the 320 mission?
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>>169844095
The one where you kill the thousand eye guy? Yeah
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>>169843923
>tfw got mine after third try
use divine frags
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>>169844087
oh

shit

I didn't read that one properly, my bad, the other sword he's carrying has the inheritible heart scaling so keep trying if you can
>>
>>169844306
No worries, I will.
>>
They fixed the bath house exp glitch right? I cant get the head to get stuck anymore.
>>
>>169844595
Yeah they did
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Can you get the rest of their bowls or is this the only one?
>>
>>169844917
Just that one I'm afraid
>>
so what's better to stack when farming smithing texts? item drop rate or luck?
>>
>>169845504
None of those apply to it.
>>
>>169845504

just get material drop rate kodama blessing while wearing a kodama bowl and go ham m8
>>
With how much luck do you all farm the magatama? I have 152 and this is taking forever.
>>
>>169845668
So they can't be influenced at all? It's just pure luck?
>>
Should I stop leveling at 150? I know level affects revenant drops but all I really need now is higher + gear and more points in my build would help some.
>>
>>169845784
230 and still dont have one
>>
>>169845784
I had 250 when farming for one. Took me 50 times to branch out with 3 attempts for each branch at bathhouse.
Ironically posting sad post on here and got the drop next time I did it.
>>
>>169845668
does killing the boss in ng+ instead of ng provide better chances at smithing texts?
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Posting proof that Smithing Texts drop as purple material bags.

Use Hunter's Blessing Kodama buff, lads.
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>>169846648
Anon, are you stupid? Item bags look the same.
>>
>>169847026
Anon, are you stupid? That's proof that material drop effects can and will work.
>>
>>169847026
Some anons were convinced that you got Smithing Texts automatically on the death of a boss.

And I imagine that Material Drop Rate+ is a better Kodama Blessing to use than any of the other ones if you're going for Smithing Texts.
>>
>>169846636
well shit just got not one but 2 texts that I've been try to get for days in one run. cool
>>
>>169846648
Nice
>>
>>169847113
It doesn't you dumbshit. Text aren't materials. They're registered as key items. They aren't affected by anything but human item drop and luck.

>>169847207
They're key items, not materials.
>>
>>169847321
Okay shitposter.
>>
>>169847321
Sounds like you're in denial for not knowing this.
>>
>>169847407
>>169847505
>they seriously don't know
It's not funny being retarded anymore guys. You need to actually start looking at the menus when key item text prompts pop up.
>>
>>169846648
When you get a smithing text it's stored in your key materials tab, Anon. Sad truth but it stays there until you give it to Tome.
>>
>>169847717
Unless post proof than nope.
>>
>>169847113
>multiple fucking tests proving Luck and anything but Equipment Drop Rate+ do all of jackshit smithing texts since day 1
>multiple menu prompts showing its a fucking KEY ITEM and thus now effected by ANYTHING outside Equipment Drop Rate+
>n-no! T-the bag g-guys...!
>>
>>169848078
They don't even realize that every single key item that drops in the game drops as a purple bag too. The only time you don't see a purple bag drop for a key item is when it's handed to you directly from an NPC.

It's pretty fucking retarded and I wouldn't be surprised if the people insisting it's materials are from reddit.
>>
>>169848607
>>169848607
>>169848607
>>169848607
Move
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>>169818029
S-shut up n-nerd.

Once I get my body maxed out, I'll focus on strength and carry weight to be the fast rolling tank I always wanted to be.
>>
>>169828149
>100 million

Teach me your ways, I'm only hitting 60-75 million on Demon King revealed
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