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Shadowverse is a free to play class based CCG similar to Heathstone /hsg/ and Gwent /wtc/

>NEWS
Game Ai updated their website with a new tier list.

The GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the following pastebin for details:

http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

2/26 UPDATE IS UP: (Goblin mage and Piercing rune nerfs)

https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0074

https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0073

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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>>169769294
>cancer.png

Only pasta can save us now

>Lunas bow to Burglars
>in contact with MILFs and daddies
>possess meme abilities
>control dicks with a lace fringe
>owns skeletons & zombies locally
>direct descendants of Mr. Bones
>will provide Last Gasps for the first meme decks on Mars
>Luna's Mom will be the first transcendental Ara in Shadowverse
>own 99% of trash decks
>first mill deck will be a Luna deck
>both Mommy and Daddy said to have cookie jars, such cookie levels have only existed on Shadowverse deep in the Gourmet Emperor's Kitchen
>ancient weeb scriptures tell of two lolis that will descend upon Rowen and bring an age of underage ara ara~
>they own rocks around the world
>you likely have undead lolis inside you now
>the Lunas are in regular communication with Cygames
>they learned fluent FATHER MOOOTHER in just 1 day
>other crafts entrusted their shitty cards to the Lunas
>there is no dead people in the underworld, only in Luna's vagoo
>Luna is about 13 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base timeline currently accepted by our society
>in reality, Lunas are immortal imoutos existing throughout all time and space
>we dont know their ultimate plans yet
>we hope their meme decks are not too shitty
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>>169769294
>forest not T1

THIS IS NOT OKAY.

YOU GUYS SAID FOREST WOULD ALWAYS BE T1.
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>>169769294
>similar to Heathstone /hsg/ and Gwent /wtc/
You just had to do it.
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I need a sv gf.
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>When the ramp hits just right
>When you t6 Polyphonic
>When your windblast+lizard+sieg his board and drop an ace dragoon
>When you uriel+urd-windblast double face after his themis
Feels good to beat a haven but bad because it breeds seraph/sun satan shitters
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>>169769463
>for the first time on this game history, Forestcraft doesn't have at least one deck in Tier 1

Never thought I see the day.
I honestly believed it was the devs pet class.
Rune seems to hold that title now.
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>similar to Heathstone /hsg/ and Gwent /wtc/

:^)

>>169769463
it will emerge into t1 very soon
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What is this Gwent?

Why do people keep talking about it?
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>>169769463
>>169769684
Forest always was tier 1 after people tinkered enough with it, in a week or max 2 it will be t1 again
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>>169769726
Some Ukrainian Hearthstone knockoff
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>>169769294
Can we delete half this OP please, it's such a pain to look at.
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>>169769463
>Implying they're not
Tier lists are shit. They put saha-luci ramp on there for christ's sake when it's an rng-fest to nut your ramp fast enough.

>>169769806
Can we delete you? You scroll past it and it's gone while it's easier for retarded newfags to stop asking stupid shit.
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How the fuck will this game handle next expansion's powercreep with 20 leader HP?
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>it isn't fair forest gets to have 3 extra copies of roach
>sword get 3 extra copies of albert and doesn't even need to set up anything to deal a shit ton of damage
>only thing that can kill this fucker is levi, dod, and hammer priest
great fucking job otk storm bullshit is still here in the form of bungacraft and yet another class has become trash
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>>169769486
I now regret talking about it in the last thread.
All I wanted was to help a fellow anon that was interested in other games.
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>oh good rune and OTK nerfs
>oh wait, that's a very minor nerfs
Thanks Cygames, now every popular deck rapes my poor sunsatan
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>Playing sword
>Not killing yourself
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>>169769924
>implying Cygames is even trying to balance anything at this point
They're either going to go full Yugioh or just throw away old sets eventually
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>>169769939
If people weren't autistic there would have been no harm in doing so.
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>>169769924
implying this game isn't a cancer heals&wards -verse already
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>>169769978
Which one is better I have no idea, but you are definetively right.
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>>169769939
Just ignore the people talking shit. It's perfectly fine to discuss other card games in a limited fashion in Shadowverse threads.
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>>169769986
More like If the retard who makes the threads wouldn't be such a fucking autist there would be no problem.
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>>169770058
>>169769939
>>169769986
>>169769486
There's no issue on discussing other games.
Even more because people here discuss them while also comparing them to Shadowverse, like mechanics, artwork, costs, etc.
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What if they made a joke expansion like MtG's un-sets?

>When you emote, destroy this follower.
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>>169770126
Wrong, people shitted on the entire thread talking about that shitty game.
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>>169770241
We already got a joke set anon. It's called RoB.
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>trying to take over gwent players
playerbase is tiny and they all are fucking faggots since only idiot will play this shitty game
stop it>>169769294
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>daria is still T1
>midrange sword is somehow T1 now

???
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>>169770249
It wouldn't have carried over if that autist would stop changing the OP all the time.
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>>169770306
You mean DE.
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>>169770306
The joke we all wanted to make. You got there first, anon. I hope the taste of victory is sweet.
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Anyone got the webm with all the stages for seraph?
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>>169770372
Tier Lists are based on the amount of people playing said decks on higher levels of ranked.
Not on powerlevels.
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>>169770372
The list is garbage.

>>169770315
Shut up, Esl-kun.
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Is anyone else really hoping the next expansion will add a neutral or dragon spell card that can do damage to face? I feel like if JO just got one more face card, it could actually be decent.
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>>169770546
No. Stop trying to force this shitty meme
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WHERE IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT

I WAS PROMISED AN ANNOUNCEMENT
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HELP ME. I WANNA GO RIGHT BUT I'VE FUCKING LOST TO STRATAGEM IN ARENA SO MANY TIMES JUST CAUSE THEY FUCKING DREW A SHIT TON OF CARDS ALL OF A SUDDEN
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What do you think about vengeance reducing all damage taken by 1 (cannot be below 1)? So if opponent attacks with 4 damage you take 3 but if they attack with 1 damage multiple times, you take 1 damage each anyway. Too OP?
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heh
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>>169770425
Here you go, just don't fap to it.
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>>169770596
Don't be a retard, go right.
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>>169770601
There's a reason why people run temple defender anon.
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>>169770498
>esl-kun
i have no idea what the fuck does that mean, but you can fuck off back to your shitty gwent/shitstone general and never come back you worthless shitter
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>>169770546
I want more on-curve dragon bodies that are playable and low cost. We need more 1-4 options so we don't just get knocked out of the game immediately. That's the biggest problem Dragon has right now imo. Almost all our vanilla cards were "if in overflow, this is statted properly, if not in overflow this thing will do nothing and die without making a trade" stuff. Same problem Blood had with all those vanilla vengeance cards that are understatted unless in vengeance. It leads to a rigid reliance on ramping quick and storm (and now bahamut), and autoloss if you can't do that.
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>there are people here who got to Masters with only one class
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>>169769684
>I honestly believed it was the devs pet class.
>After they've nerfed practically every tool it has
Their pet classes have always been sword and rune. Just look at the difference in legos. Sword gets Aurelia and Albert while Forest gets stuff like Fairy Princess and Rose Queen who are only good for their slutty bodies.
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>>169770683
Fuck off and learn english.
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>>169770716
>not dusting everything to make 1 deck with 30 legends
It's like you don't even want to live the dream
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>>169770716
>1442 wins and still in AA2
And here i was, thinking i was a shitter for getting to Masters in 1k wins
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>>169770716
Richfag, buy x3 Eidolon. I'll hand you a deck that need to be test.
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>>169770716
1442 wins and you are aa2

if you mained one class you would be a master
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>>169770716
so this is the average /svg/ poster huh
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>>169770828
Also, why did he blank out his name? You can change it at will.
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>>169770716
>1442
>AA2
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>>169769294
See what you did, now we have this pile of trash in our already stacked with faggots general>>169770754
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>>169770716
>Australia
Fake, it's not upside down.
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>>169770754
could you please leave this thread already

not that guy
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>>169770672
What if the effect also applies to reflected damage too? Your bloody mary + bond in vengeance only does 5 damage, bloody mary + claw only does 1+3, etc. Still too op?
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>>169770828
It doesn't mean he is a shitter. Thats just what happens if you use a lot of decks.
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>>169770869

Nah, that's just his rank. I made it to Master in under 10000 wins and I put a hundred games in all the crafts
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How do we balance this card?
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>>169771009
>in under 10000 wins
I think most people did
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>>169770828
Things have slowed since I hit AA2, I've been here more than a week and I'm not even halfway through. Also it is a side effect of using so many decks in ranked. I did max my score last month though.

>>169770835
Richfag? I started 2 months ago and have only bought the Shadow premade.

>>169770869
Possibly but it's more fun this way and I'll be there soon enough.
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>>169770992

Guy who used every deck here, He's a shitter.
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>>169770929
>>169770960
>t.Esl-kun
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>>169771042
Delete it?
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>>169770869
Is that why I'm at like 400 ranked wins but still at A2? I saw someone with like 270 wins and he's already A1 and he uses only 1 deck while I use 3 forces with 4-5 decks.
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>>169771042
Increase the number of board slots to 6.
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>>169771069
>bought
You're already a shitter.
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>>169771187
Dumb poorfag
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>>169771119
>complaining about bad english on website owned by jap
pls go back to your general
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>That card you regretted vialing

what her name /svg/
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>>169771174
gtfo
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>>169771174
That would make the game last so long that all the nips would quit.
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>>169771265
Go back to your hue forum, Esl-kun.
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>almost no Dariafags today
>the new """midrange""" Sword deck is everywhere
What the fuck is going on
What should i play to fuck it over
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>>169771069
What a useless piece of human junk for Eidolon's madness. Get lost, ape.
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Anyone wish this game has more multiplay? Like co-op duel or something. 2v2, alternating turns, face hp adjusted accordingly, etc. A friend got me to play this game but other than that 20 private match achievement once, there's nothing else we can do for score/rank/whatever.
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>>169771150
The more you play a deck in a given meta, the more experience you will have in not playing it, but what your good and bad matchups are, how to mulligan, etc. It is truism that you will do better focusing on one thing. That being said, someone who can play (and has decks for) every craft at AA2 is probably a much more well-rounded player with a better perspective of the meta than someone who ground straight to Master with one deck (probably an aggro netdeck, to make games shorter).
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Why am I still seeing aggro blood in AA1?
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I'm never going to make it huh? You think take 2 is going to be even harder with the new Tempest of the God expansion cards? Bahamut is basically GG no re.
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>>169771359
As a fun extra mode? Sure.
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>>169771379
Aggro is the only viable deck since the meta includes DShift
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>>169770716
I hate to say it but people like you and me, who dont main a craft are in the minority. Honestly I dont understand how they don't get bored with only playing one deck all the time.
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>>169769924

Tempest of Gods New Game Mechanic:

Victory Point System:

To win a match, you must score 2 Victory points(VP).

You earn a VP when:

- Reduce your opponent's defense to 0
- The opponent has to draw a card when there are 0 cards left in his deck
- Win state triggered by card (ex. Seraph)

After a player earns a VP, he keeps his current defense, starts again at 1 pp, and his cards are shuffled back into a new deck and draws a new starting hand and can mulligan.

His opponent keeps his current cards in hand and in play, his current pp, his other cards are reshuffled into a new deck, and his defense is returned to 20.

BAM

SUPER FUCKIN' VIABLE

(This also fixes Vengeance) ;)
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>>169771348
but daria is amazing

i went 4:0 doing unranked dailies with it yesterday, vs haven, aggro blood etc
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>>169771379

Something someting tier 1 according to game-ai. Just heal and ward up bro
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>>169771357
>this guy knows how to get (You)s
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>>169771451
It's a shame, there's a lot of variety in this game which makes it fun. One of the reasons Haven is my most played is simply because it has the most decks. I like to play everything.
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Post cards you want to see in the new expansion.
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>>169771538
The best variety the game has is at low ranks, though. There's not much variety to be had if you really want to climb rating in AA. The best experience is probably rerolling and just staying in D with meme decks. Ironically, by the time you have a full collection you'll be in rating hell where you can't have fun.
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>tfw Daria Kaleidoscopes my Reaper

whyyyyyy
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>>169771607
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>>169771679
Then you just push through to Masters and play whatever you like.
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Hey
It's me
Vania
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>>169771783
Most people aren't going to have fun playing random decks in Masters, though, or Masters ELO unranked. It's still far more restricted a meta than the lower ranks.
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>>169771372
Well it's true that once I've tried all the decks (especially with this gbf event) in unranked, guessing what the opponents are going to do (assuming their hand is perfect) and baiting for it is much easier. Still fucking hate using forest though. Also still can't get a feel for the meta on my current 'bracket' to tech the necessary cards though. I'm essentially still 90% netdecking.
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Looks like Haven has a new wincon.
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>>169771830
Okay and?
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>>169771830

You're obviously not a Masters player. Masters is 100% full memes. It is the least restrictive meta by far.
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>>169771806
k
ys
dubcuck
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>>169771857
ARTHAS

PUUURGE
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>>169771857

>badass art

It's going to be shit isn't it.
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>>169771857
Wow control cards for haven
What a shock
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>>169771857
TRANSLATE IT WEEBS
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>>169771857
>another auto wincon
Just what they needed
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>>169771857
>9 mana
Pointless.
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>>169771857
It's say it has cannot be target effect.

t. Moonspeaker

Pretty OP if you ask me.
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Translate it weebs

http://blog.livedoor.jp/shadowv/archives/14379512.html
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> Played 5 games so far today.
> 4 D-Shifts.
> I'm control.

aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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So when is Shadowverse implementing rotations
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>>169772004
ZEUS
E
U
S
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Stay away from Haven, shitters.

>>169771538
You too, heretic casual Cerberus shit.
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>tfw finally got all the wins for the retarded sleeves

Daria is such a boring deck to play jesus christ.

Now I just need to decide if I should waste the vials to build Wolf Bolt or save them and wait for the next expansion.
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>>169771857

>Heavenly Isis
>9PP 8/8 10/10
>cannot be damaged or affected by followers' abilities

Why is this allowed?
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>>169769684
There was this early on in the expansion, though it was more due to lack of exposure than class strength.
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>>169772093
>Isis
Aegis
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>>169772065
Ugh Ignorant!

Just because that guy is holding lightning, doesn't mean he's automatically Zeus, you ignorant assuming shitlord!!!

Check your privilege!
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>>169771857
if its an 8/8 for 9 pp follower then whatever effects it has cant be strong enough for it to be a wincon.
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>>169771857
>>169772093

>Heavenly Aegis

Also, the additional rule text reads like.

For example, if a "destroy" or "banish" effect from a follower won't affect this follower.

Eat shit, Odin.
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No new keywords in TotG. Sad.
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>>169772119
Shut the fuck up
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TRANSLATE IT WEEBS
http://blog.livedoor.jp/shadowv/archives/14379512.html
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>>169772107
I miss the first few days of the expansion when people hadn't figured out the most cutthroat version of Daria, was fun farming it as control
that soon changed
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>>169772093
>>169772171

That's beyond broken. How the hell you destroy it then?
By turn 9 you can't possibly have an evo left to use on that, do you just have to Themis or something like that?
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>>169772093
>Should I play this T9 do nothing
>Or should I win the game by then
It's fucking trash.
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Did meta just become even more cancerous after that "nerf"?
I met daria, Dshift and a shit ton of aggro today
is this the end
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>>169772223
Just Themis it bro
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>>169772004
I WILL BRING DESPAIR
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I suppose it makes sense that an expansion with the name "Gods" in it would favor Havencraft
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>>169772198
"Purple of poison"
Rarity: Silver rare type: Follower class: Dragon cost: 5
Attack power: 4
Fitness: 5
ability:
At the end of your turn, discard a card with the lowest cost from your hand at random. + 2 / + 2.
>more discard
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>>169772223
Shouldn't all the 5pp kill cards work?
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>>169772248
>I met daria, Dshift and a shit ton of aggro today
Sounds like the usual stuff.
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stop this
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>>169772248
Just play Control and hope you aren't matched against DShift.
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>>169772223
dance of death
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>>169772087
what's.wrong.with.spaces?
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>>169772223
This is the promised Daria counter

YES!!!
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So?

I lean towrads right to end games fast
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>>169769935
Albert 5 or 10 face. Roach is up to 20 damage from hand through a full board of wards.
Alberting also means forgoing frontguard/aurelia/etc.
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>>169772306
>they doubled down on discard
It's over
pack it in boys
dragon is officially dead
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God bless Sahaluci, the chemo of RoB
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>>169772093
It says all card effects, not just followers, but I'm not sure if the terminology implies that it just can't be targeted or is entirely unaffected.
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>>169772223
What happens if you give it Guardian Sun?
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>>169772306
CYGAMES
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>>169772354

Nothing, it's just a naming gimmick.
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WE DID IT BOYS

DISCARD WILL BE TIER ONE

SCREENCAP THIS
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>>169770575
>Meme
It can fuck people up man

>>169770596
Don't need to draw if they're dead
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>>169772346
It says it doesn't take damage aside from battle and that it cannot be destroyed by targeted cards, which I assumed goes for spells too.
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>>169772367
>Daria counter
>When you've been dead for four turns
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>>169772306
The deck needs more consistency, not more garbage discard effects.
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>>169772306
>Fitness: 5
Dragon is finally getting some gains
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>>169770716
Shopw me your dankest Arthurian light-Ironwrought fortress commandcraft deck
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>>169772223
There are plenty of hard removal spells like DoD in the game to deal with him. I dont think this card will see much use.
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This might be the worst deck I've 5-0'd with. Man round 5 was intense.

Only Dragon, Rune, Forest, and Haven to go.
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>>169772609
Why do people assume that because I've climbed rank with every deck that I must be playing meme decks?
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>>169772624
Cocytus Is still better.
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>>169771042
It makes 1 more board slot per shadow when full
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>>169772559
Is this porn?

If so, can I have source?
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>>169772654
Because at any given time only like 2-3 crafts are actually worth playing unless you're doing it for fun.
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>>169772654

I think it's more that you're near 1500 wins and you haven't gotten Masters yet that they assume you're playing meme decks. It's better than assuming you're bad.
>>
I started playing in ROB and I'm wondering, was beast dominator ever considered good? I'm assuming they added bloody mary in DE to help bd somewhat? Then they added that 3pp cost card so you don't have to play bd itself? But the 7pp form is still kinda lame though?

I'm asking because I like Jeanne and wish they'd add cards to make her good in the next expac but based on what they did BD (basically nothing?), outlook not looking good.
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>finally playable
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>>169772717
It's from the prisma Illya manga.
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>>169772758
Beast Dominator was always garbage.
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>>169771857
>Cannot be targeted stat boost haven is viable
Oh yes
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>>169772758
It's the same deal as Pluto and Pact of the Nether God. Terrible card on its own, but sort of okay if you get it for free with removal.
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Crystalia Erin
Forest Gold Follower
6PP
4/6
Ward Fanfare: Restore 3 defense to your leader
Enhance (8): Restore 1 evolution point

Unusual Storm
Rune Gold Spell
6PP
Transform all enemy followers into Flaming Rat

Flaming Rat
Follower
1/1
At the start of your turn, deal 1 damage to both leaders

Tristan, Knight of the Round Table
Sword Bronze Follower - Officer
5PP
3/4
Fanfare: Gains "Last Words: Summon Tristan, Knight of the Round Table" if you have a commander in play.

Venomous Violet Dragon
Dragon Silver Follower
5PP
4/5
At the end of your turn, discard one of the lowest-cost cards in your hand. This gets +2/+2

Goblin Zombie
Shadow Bronze Follower
3PP
2/3
At the end of your turn, Necromancy (4): Gets +2/+2

Baphomet
Blood Silver Follower
2PP
2/1
Fanfare: Put a random Blood follower that costs 5 play points or more from your deck into your hand
Enhance (5): Then subtract 3 from its cost.

Goblin Princess
Neutral Silver Follower
5PP
2/1
Fanfare: Summon 2 Goblin
Lastwords: Summon 1 Goblin King

Goblin King
4PP
5/5
Ward

GOBLIN PRINCESS MUTHA FUCKA
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>>169772717
You decide.
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>>169772548
Does that mean revelation should still do damage to it? You can't target "cannot be attacked" and "ambush" but they take damage from aoe?
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>>169772758
>was beast dominator ever considered good
No.
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>>169772732
Why play the game if not for fun?

>>169772732
I'm afraid that climbing during DE with Dragon wasn't very much fun, nor with Haven in RoB. Sure I could just grind aggro but the point is I like a variety of styles.
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>>169772854
me on the right
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>>169772846
>Crystalia Erin
>Forest Gold Follower
>6PP
>4/6
>Ward Fanfare: Restore 3 defense to your leader
>Enhance (8): Restore 1 evolution point
CONTROL FOREST
O
N
T
R
O
L
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>>169772889

Bruh I'm just saying I put in games with all the decks too and I made it to Masters in under 1000. You're pretty bad.
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Goblincraft when?
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>>169772846
>Baphomet
>blood
Fucking disappointed. I was expecting it to be Haven since Belp is Shadow.
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>>169772983
bro you've really hurt my feelings
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>>169772991
Right after the Orccraft
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>>169772846
Goblin Princess adds them to your hand. Not directly summoning them.
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>>169772846

Okay, I was wrong about Baphomet

It reads.

Baphomet
Blood Silver Follower
2PP
2/1
Fanfare: Put a random Blood follower with attack of 5 or more from your deck into your hand
Enhance (5): Then subtract 3 from its cost.

It's ATTACK, not COST
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>>169772093
Because it's a t9 do nothing. Aggro already killed them. Midrange just keeps drawing and dropping some followers when it can tell it's coming. The morde/windblast/hellflame/roach are already fucking your ass
This helps reign control back in because odin/baha was cancer
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>>169772846
>Tristan
>5PP
>3/4
>useless without a commander
Garbage.
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>>169772846
>Tristan, Knight of the Round Table

>Fanfare: Gains "Last Words: Summon Tristan, Knight of the Round Table" if you have a commander in play.

So conditional Mordecai for sword?
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>>169773014

Hey at least you're having fun right ? :^)
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>>169773041
wew, i thought it could tutor lancer
>>
GG
Cygames literally killing their game
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>>169773065
It only works once though.
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>>169773065
Based on the wording it can only trigger once because fanfares only activate when played from hand.
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>>169772846
Really like that Blood card although 5pp for a 2/1 kinda hurt.
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>>169773065
Banner is back boys
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>>169772846
>Flaming Rat
>Follower
>1/1
>At the start of your turn, deal 1 damage to both leaders
Well thats it, they finally added a playable 1 drop, and its neutral. This is basically a quickblader for everyone else.
>Baphomet
>Blood Silver Follower
>2PP
>2/1
>Fanfare: Put a random Blood follower that costs 5 play points or more from your deck into your hand
>Enhance (5): Then subtract 3 from its cost.
Not sure if terrible or possibly gamebreaking. Definitely one of those cards we'll have to see in action.

>Goblin Princess
>Neutral Silver Follower
>5PP
>2/1
>Fanfare: Summon 2 Goblin
>Lastwords: Summon 1 Goblin King

Gobo princess so automatically best card of set. Neutral leader when?
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>>169773041
>3 pp Mastema
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>>169772846
>>169773065

>Someone who is now able to challenge Mordecai in endless duels.
>>
Notice how none of the revealed cards is random random like in hearthstone.
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>>169772769
>4pp
>5/5
I thought we're into a consensus about this.
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>>169773139
>Well thats it, they finally added a playable 1 drop, and its neutral. This is basically a quickblader for everyone else.
This is only for the Rune spell, it's not a follower like Goblin.
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>>169772306
>Had enough trouble winnnig as dragon in removecraft?
>Unplayable unless you play rites on curve
>Tutoring rites is already too slow
>How about you lose TWO cards and your play
Just tuck dragon in, let it die. I'm really doubting we'll get some not-shit draw for flute memers
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>>169773041
So, Temptress basically. Well, with the actual cards that Cblood uses, that is.
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>>169772846
>>169773041
Blood card looks interesting but clunky, mainly for tutoring Azazel combos but there's probably other uses for it as well
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>>169773161
Only triggers once.
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>>169772846

Sorry for one more correction for Goblin Princess

You put the king into your hand. You only summon 2 Goblin for free.
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>>169773220

>Implying

We've already seen cards make tokens of existing cards.

We just simply don't know whether its a token card like bats and fairies or if it's aggro cancer.
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>>169772846
>they're STILL pushing the discard meme
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>>169773286
Jesus Christ man. I'll look the new cards myself.
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>>169771992
>It's say it has cannot be target effect
can i has targeted ability
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>>169773321
They will never stop until Discard becomes T1.
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>>169773041
Regardless of what card you get, just being able to play a 2/1 and draw a card for 2pp sounds pretty good.
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>>169773298
We DO know that it's only for the Spell as of right now, unless they announce it as a real card later on, because it's not highlighted and is being shown alongside the spell.
I also doubt they would print an Ambling Wraith for everyone.
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>>169773264

The main appeal I'd say is now you can splash Mary even if you only run Dire Bond.

Both pieces are searchable now. In order to avoid pulling cards that you don't want you'd be running neutralcraft were you to use my strat.
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>>169773418
This. Who knows what cards will blood get, maybe a neat 9PP to combo with this reduction ability to get it out T6
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>>169773321
If Rowen was a little girl, I'd say they like bullying dragoncraft
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>>169773153
at turn 6

so strong, so wow

at least looks a shit for aggro blood unless they release an actually good aggro follower with 5 attack
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>>169772846
>the cucky goblin king only shows up long after his daughter is already lost to the enemy
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>>169773458
Mary has 4 attack. >>169773041
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>>169773491
I'm calling MRA on you
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>>169773402
So never?
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>>169773491
maybe rowen is a little girl inside~
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>>169773506
Sounds like a perfect Goblin scum.
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>>169773418
It's the blood version of Maid Leader.
That girl is so useful in sword, I can't imagine the blood version not seeing play.
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>>169773065
Remember that discussion about the round table we had two weeks ago?
ARTHUR HYPE YOU FUCKS.
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What the fuck is going on
Why is there a sudden meta shift
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>>169773041
ONE COST SOUL DEALER
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Forget Goblin Mage. There's a new hotness.

>she alone puts out 3 bodies at a time on turn 5
>atomeme rearing his head out
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>>169773153
>>169773496
Isn't it 2pp mastema? 5pp-3. But that actually makes her a turn 6 drop instead of 5?
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>>169773506
>he just wants to watch
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>>169772654
Because at that play time you should be able to meme like a motherfucker.

>>169772758
Jeanne's okay for a tech card. The problem is Haven needed more spell immune followers along curve, a lot more cheap spell immune followers, some low cost spell immune 1 follower, and some more cheap stat boost cards so they're able to have a pseudo-rush board that trades playing followers for slightly increasing stats and healing through the turns.

>>169772846
>Giving rune another fuck your target immune and last word cards
Tristan's a dead win more card too. You don't have a board and they can always kill the commadner then tristan like they always do. It'll also cause plenty of positioning issues with aoe killing the commander then Tristan dies for good too.

At least forest got more combo for a simalacrum deck.
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>>169772306
Please stop it Cygames. You tried with RoB just give up on the Discard meme. Don't make Dragon waste another expansion again. First we get Flute memes, then Discard memes.
Haven't we suffered enough?
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>>169773527

well fuck, there goes all of the desirable blood cards. A lot of them have 4 health.
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>>169772769
>removing Gobu King in 2017
>first Holy War SR reward card
M-my heart
>>
is there a place to download the new jp voices yet
>>
>New haven Legendary
>Sun storm wil be a thing

Well that was nice of cygames.
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>>169773734
What new JP voices?
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>>169773621
well, she will be able to pull satan... no sexy and icefriends in your deck then

a tutor for satan sounds crazy fun imo

>>169773418
there is no good aggro cards with 5 attack for blood so it's bad for aggro

can be good for control
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>>169773650

>t5 atomy
>good

at that stage you're using Ceridwen, not summoning the actual dude.
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>>169773757
Link to the new cards?
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>>169773687
>You don't have a board and they can always kill the commadner then tristan like they always do. It'll also cause plenty of positioning issues with aoe killing the commander then Tristan dies for good too.
That's not how it works. It's a Fanfare, it will only trigger once. If Tristan is killed, then revived by his Last Words effect, even if you have a commander out at the time, he won't gain his Last Words back again.
It's complete garbage. It's a fucking 5pp 3/4 without a commander out too.
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>>169773812
wait, it apparently doesn't work for neutral craft

welp, nothing special then, a guaranteed sexy, iceblade or mastema are nothing to write home of
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>>169773646
>1pp: Activate Vengeance
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>>169773629
>ARTHUR HYPE YOU FUCKS.

Im not hyped because this Arthur will not be a petit blonde with amazing ass.

Sorry.
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>>169773887
I gonna just Themis it cucks
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>>169773867
It's a bronze card, it's expected to be shit.
Only a select few turn out to be decent at best.
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>>169773826
Scroll up
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>>169773629
We already have aurelia
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>>169773915
On the other hand he won't be a face of a shitty franchise, so it's a decent tradeoff.
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>>169773887
6pp Temptress could be really helpful against D-Shift.
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>>169771423
I'm in the same boat, don't worry.
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>>169773798
for story mode
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>>169773990
Not that shit again
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>>169773041
>blood gets a better dragon emmisary

Why is this allowed?
>>
how to destroy that aegis ?

holy fuck that seems broken
>>
Good cards so far, Y/N?
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>>169773690
You got JO crystal and saha
What else do you need
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CUTE
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>>169774062
Cause blood is shit.
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>>169774059
Just do the v folder thing again.
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I'm ready to themis bro.
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>>169773692
Well, your concept isn't dead in the water, because my CBlood deck has splashed 1x Uriel for quite a while and it's been working amazing. Since I'm running a Mary-Azazel-Bahamut finisher spread, this new tutor should fit right in if I can just find the room for it (which I'm not sure about unless they print some hellishly good midgame cards for Blood in general)
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>>169774103
for android i mean
>>
I wonder what Rowen uses to shave while he's up in the mountains haha
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>>169773041
>Can finally play medusa on t6 with executioner's axe to give her rush
>Tutors rampaging giant for soul dealer vengeancecraft, abyss beast, temptress, or iceblade
>Effect ensures relevance
YES
YES
YES

>>169773816
It's not about any specific turn atomy. It's about being able to consistently play 1 of your 9 Atomemes throughout the game. Another up to 3 cards to vomit out the memer is great and it gives you a cheap ward too.

>>169774062
Because the 1pp reduction from emissary helps a lot with the ramp mechanic and since you can't decline to enhance, unlike emissary it's much harder to use it to revive a dead hand resulting in a dead turn.
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>>169774062
Dunno, 5pp is too much in many match-ups.
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Is this accurate representation of the current meta?
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>tfw you meme just right
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>>169773915
Sucks to be you, at least he won't be part of that shitty anime.
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>>169774181
translate pls weebcuck
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>>169774076
Cute Cerberus sleeves.

>another spend $500 get sleeves promo

Good, that way the plebs won't have them.
>>
>>169772846
>Tristan, Knight of the Round Table
>Sword Bronze Follower - Officer
>5PP
>3/4
>Fanfare: Gains "Last Words: Summon Tristan, Knight of the Round Table" if you have a commander in play.

apparently they want banner to resurrect
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>>169773690
Flute is fine in theory, the only issue is with our draw because it's disadvantaged to take and put rites on the board and we don't have otherwise good draw without roost and urds which is suicide
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>>169774130
Except he's dshift.
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>>169773041
This is perfect for putting out Iceblade Warfiend 1 turn earlier.

It basically gives a huge 5/7 body headache for your opponent, because even if gets rid of it on his next turn, it already did its job on your turn earlier.
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>>169774062
*a worse
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>>169774219
It's trash
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>>169774181
Why a flowchart of all things?

Is a matchup table too hard for the nips to understand?
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>>169774245
Epic.
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>>169774063
Have a board?
Take bane/gaze?
Use your rush/storm shit?

It's bricking their hand all the way up to it and in topdeck country it lacks a a damage effect or rush/storm.
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>>169773041
To expand upon the Azazel concept, running this would signifigantly improve the DShift MU since you can play this turn 5, then curve into Azazel + Diabolic Drain turn 6. Pretty nifty.
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>>169774295
it's basically a mini mordecai unless you have a means to destroy banner
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>>169774334
Daria dshift's the hot new meme
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>>169774382
It doesn't revive repeatedly.
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>>169774382
>Fanfare
Wrong, it only works once.
Also
>5pp
>3/4
>>
>>169774410
oh, the fanfares part

you are right indeed

i hope they will fix it, he is too weak otherwise
>>
Time to beat the dead horse again with a new expansion coming up.

8 new cards is updated here.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

Do we have any announcement of the total number of cards for ToG? Else, I will assume the same size with RoB.
>>
More like Tempest of the Goblins.
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>>169774335
does it destroyed by themis, cocytus, dod, odin ?
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777 Wins caught my eye, what a milestone. Just wish I could get to masters one day.
>>
I just realized that the Lego guy won't work with Guardian Sun because of his can't be affected by effects Tag
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Did I understand the article correctly? Each class will have two legos in this expansion?
>>
>that new Haven lego
We Yu-Gi-Oh! now
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>>169774538
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>>169774538
Sandbagging? Or just retarded?
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>>169774538
8k gold
777 wins
D2


What? Are you sandbagging?
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This is your healer for tonight
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>play dragon. Perfect curve unga swords ennerywhere.
>go dirt rune otk dragon and ptp forest. Never draw petrify.
Fucking hell
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>>169774382
It can't evo trade into full stat defensive followers of the 2nd turn player if you went first
>>
>Goblin Zombie
>3PP for 2/3 and 4/5 late game

I want to use him for Nep.
>>
>>169774484
I dunno if it's cannot be targeted, Liza or if it's an elevated effect that finally deals with aoe/random target bypassing it
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>>169774584
>Suddenly next Expansion has Kaiju equivalent Neutral.

I never asked for this.
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>Unusual Storm
>Rune Gold Spell
>6PP
>Transform all enemy followers into Flaming Rat

>Flaming Rat
>Follower
>1/1
>At the start of your turn, deal 1 damage to both leaders

sounds crazy fun
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>woke up
>new cards
>a fucking 2/1 that summons two 1/2's and a 5/5 ward when it dies

TOO SLOW BUT THE VALUE.
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Could we have this card in SV as a 6 or 7 cost?

Dragonification is already basically a Kaiju. So the card could work like this:

Disturbed Dragon Sleep
Dragoncraft 7 cost spell
Destroy all followers then summon a Dragon to both player's fields. Evolve any Dragons you control. At the start of your next turn add one "Kaiju Dragon" to your hand

Kaiju Dragon
Dragoncraft 5cost Follower 5/5
If your opponent controls a Dragon change this card's cost to 0
Fanfare: If your opponent controls a Dragon Evolve this card.
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>>169774825
Puts the 5/5 in your hand
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>>169774617
>>169774619
>>169774626
Obviously sandbagging you tards
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>>169774905
Seem good for PtP or discard dragon since dragon needs ward.
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Guys
Think
Cancer bigger than Daria
Is coming
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>>169774538
>>169774617
>>169774626
>>169774619
Lets keep those yous coming
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>>169774825

>Goblin Princess is the neutral otomeme

Screencap this now.
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>>169772846
im liking the 6 mana temptress vampires and 2 mana mastemas. god, i love bloodcraft
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>>169775119
You still have to sacrifice a turn to do it, a 2/1 on t5 isn't going somewhere good. Worse if it doesn't get full evo value
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>Class with the most removal gets the stickiest follower in the game
Why is this allowed?
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>>169775084
Just why? What's the point in doing that?
Are you just collecting stuff?
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Oh shit guys, it's -THAT PAST- !

What did she mean by this?
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>>169775061
scorched rat rune!

you turn all enemy followers to 1/1 scorched rats, don't kill them and proceed to hit face with your followers while the rats damage both leaders by 1 point
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>>169774909
To do it that long though, damn.

>>169775171
Probably just plays to have a 100% collection.
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>>169775178
apparently she showed her panties to somebody before she met princess or something
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So like, it is possible that Heavenly Aegis cannot be destroyed, banished, transformed or damage.

Start panicking.
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>>169775061
The job is to identify it as soon as possible and crush it. Crystalia Erin looks good, Baphomet could be annoying. Even Tristan seems fucking annoying. From what I've played from Zombie Buccaneer in T2 is that people will be less likely to kill him if he'll just spawn something with the same stats again so I've had people easily misplay and just ignore him for some reason.
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>>169775171
It's fun.
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>>169775268
If by "panties" you mean "penis", then yes
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>>169772846
>Baphomet
>Blood Silver Follower
>2PP
>2/1
>Fanfare: Put a random Blood follower that costs 5 play points or more from your deck into your hand
>Enhance (5): Then subtract 3 from its cost.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/shadowv/archives/14379512.html

This site says 5 attack or more
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>>169775178
Maybe that fan-art with her and the horse was alot more true than we thought
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>>169775360

Yes, I got it wrong. I put up an actual list here. >>169774462
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>>169775167
t9 do nothing, can't use anything with it
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>>169775338
implying having a penis prevents one from wearing and showing off panties

btw iirc the princess told about erika's "sword" in length in the last chapter of the story
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>>169775156
shit, i wasn't even paying attention to the enhance keyword. mastema is a waste to pull then. would rather just play her. card looks like a waste with blood's current cards now. really weak turn 5
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Epic, simply epic.
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>>169775281
So is dragon the only class that can kill big fellower with no problem? H-HEAAAR
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>・レジェンドが各リーダー2枚ずつ収録

Each class getting 2 legendaries? Why no one talking about this?
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>>169775493

Really? What's the total amount of cards then? I need to update that part.
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>>169775493
This is terrible, it only makes specific legos harder to pull.
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So only bane can kill Heavenly Aegis, right?
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>>169775493
>Hearthstone devs announce that every class will get two legendaries
>Shadowverse's devs announce the same
Can these fucking gooks stop ripping off a superior game already?
>>
Haven is getting a 8/8 morde that is way more terrifying (Not getting destroyed by Themis, so can still attack).

All for only one additional PP.

Why is this allowed?
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>>169775537
http://blog.livedoor.jp/shadowv/archives/14379512.html
It's on the blog. No new keywords and each class getting 2 class legendaries for ToG.
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>>169775429
It may works against some slow decks. He is a pretty useful tutor even without the enhance effect anyway.
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>>169775493
Great, now I will have to craft the legendaries I want.

THANKS AGAIN CYGAMES.
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>>169775587
If only there was some other way.
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>>169774076
>can't play the capture the soul event with Cerb and Charon
Suffering
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>>169775628
THE MASKETTA MAN?
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>>169775628
the fire rises
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she looks pregnant...

also gobu is so much cuter... tfw she is not usable anymore

>>169775429
it's certainly not for aggro blood unless they release a blood analogue of forte
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>3 servants of darkness in a row
t-thanks
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>>169775628

No, bane is considered an effect, and any effect from other cards won't work. Banish, transform, destroy. None of that works.
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>>169775628
Doesn't get affected by effects so no
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Why does Rune has another boardwipe that can fuck up Mordecai and last words? Why is this fair?
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>>169775493
Thanks Cygames
I can't wait for good decks to cost 100 000 vial to make
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just entangle their aegis :^)
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>Burn some budget aggro sword nerds evo out
>Have an imprisoned dragon socked away
>Drag his hand dry
>He topdecks the albert
>But it's not enough
Bummer dude

>>169775290
Tristan has janky stats and pp cost.
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>>169775832
Just unusual storm it bro.
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>>169775587
>joined late so I'm still missing a few standard/DE legendaries
>still buying RoB packs
>14 new legendaries soon
I'm never catching up am I?
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>>169775869
>implying that'll happen
Decks have never been cheaper than they are now.
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>heavenly aegis

I finally can stop playing trash like Satan in control haven. Apocalypse deck failed me a lot of times. I hope Elana is the other haven legendary.
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>>169775870

>can't be affected by any cards
>ANY cards

It's pretty much a Haven Satan.
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>>169775429
seems incredible for control blood. a weak turn 5 can be made up for by playing a turn 6 temptress.

also enables azazel + mary as a combo for all the sahaluci decks that spam healing. could also do a 1 mana soul dealer for mary combos instead.
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>>169775493
PULL THROUGH CYGAMES
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>>169775431
I don't know my cancer hag sprites, how'd it turn out?

>>169775493
Single lego in DE/RoB was kind of ick.
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>>169775869
this

>>169775916
>excluding changes to attack or defense

>ENTANGLING VINES
>Effect: Give an enemy follower -10/-0 until the end of the turn.
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>>169775431
underrated post
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>>169775908
Are you fucking serious
Ceck out any dragon ramp deck
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>>169775951
>that helmet

Did imperal dragoon got cucked?

"Let's take back what was originally ours".
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>>169775994
It doesn't do shit though. You still can't kill him and his attack will return at the end of your turn.
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>>169775957
I won
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>>169775994

>reduces it down to 0/10
>it gets back to 10/10 on their turn

Now what?
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>>169776084
Ramp Dragon is the exception, obviously. We have shit like Aggro Blood that is incredibly cheap now.
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>>169775657
true, but i find my problem with control blood is my hand getting too full. since i play the laura combo im just waiting until i can azazel safely. maybe baphomet will be better in a more midrangey style of deck.

>>169775925
wow, didn't even consider mary comboes. azazel + mary would probably be more consistent and doesn't get cockblocked by wards fuck shadowcraft
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>>169775587
>I'm impatient, so less cards is better
Anyone who actually thinks this is deranged
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>>169775893
When did you start? I started during Steam release and am only 56/126 for a full set of all legos so far. Then again, I've only played to complete dailies for most of the time and only ran T2 off tickets. I've been vialing all my animateds, too.

Not sure I'll ever catch up unless I spend money or git gud at T2 and grind rupies like mad.
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reading this thread i realized one thing

i certainly should buy garuda leader, it will be a good preparation to the next expansion :3

>>169776110
you can kill the leader

also what about pegasus elf, it reduces atgtack to 1 permanently

wait, it's a forest card again :^)
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>>169776089
They can share, anon. Plus Mars has her own RoB events, therefore she can officially trademark that helmet
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>>169775925
You're not memeing hard enough, you can use Laura the same turn as him and even fit in a Razory Claw for a perfect 10 damage lethal if you have an evo point.

Could just use Olivia on t9 too I guess.
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>>169775638
Heaven forbid one thing can do something in destroy/banish craft at the same time people are already turns into the >9 face from hand combos.

>>169775832
How is an 8pp 5/5, 5/5 immortal body, destroy strongest opposing follower, heal for their attack, and a misc effect twice in a row without even costing an evo point fucking fair faggot? t.zirnitra t. Erasmus t.mythril golem t.Jeanne t. orb dragon t. incandescent dragon t. fafnir t. olivia t.grea t.furiae t.pluto t.Reina t. Anne
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>>169776161
Some legos are worthless, so you're not really missing anything.
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>>169772846
When will Cygames make a new Blood archetype? I'm sick of aggro and control.
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I tried Control Blood due to Kripp playing it. This shits like as strong as Face Dragon down here in Begin0.
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>>169776224

>pegasus elf
>reduces attack

What does this forestfucker mean by that?
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>>169775747
That art is basically image related, cat in the baseball bat decks better be a thing
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>>169776248
Yeah, I've pretty much got all the ones used in T1/T2 decks, but it'd be nice to have them all for completion.
>>
>haven gets a better mordecai
How is this fair?
>>
>>169776110
>>169776120
You can crash your board into it without losing them and if you have two wards up he'll probably die trying to attack it.
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>>169776151
It's not less cards, you retard. If they are keeping the same number of cards in this expansions as the others, they are just using up slots that would be given to Golds, Bronzes or Silvers for Legendaries, making cards harder to acquire. It's only justifiable if they significantly increase the amount of cards in the set, what I doubt will happen.
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>>169775493
Since this guy seems to be the cover neutral for this expansion and theres 2 legendaries per class, I'm half expecting the rest of the Olympians to make it in, if not having some of them be at least gold like Athena.
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>>169776315
9 cost and can't be tutored by nep
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>>169776315
Shadow shitters are the worst scum

>>169776356
It sure would be nice if you could have a board in removalcraft
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>>169776316
Why would you crash your board against it? Do you have brain damage?
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>>169776161
Shortly after RoB.
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>>169776316

How will it die when it cannot be damaged in the first place?
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>>169776262
Hey, you forgot about Midrange :^)
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>>169775893
Aggro blood is not good
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>turn 5 Baphomet > turn 6 Mary/Soul Dealer combo
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y/n

please dont make me reroll another 20 hours holy fucking jesus

also what archetype should I craft? should I wait a few days for the expansion details?
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>>169776276
aww

well, use the vines and kill the hag meantime then

also i wonder if "can't attack" effect work on him
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>>169776356
Athena (and Hades) is already in.
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Why doesn't Sword run Dragonewt Charlotte? Just came across it in T2, seems like a solid card.
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>>169775493
They'll pretty much just turn what otherwise would've been strong golds/silvers (like Khawy or Fangblade) into legos. They are just making cards harder to pull.
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>>169774214
>No whale sleeves for the west
Truly suffering
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>>169776574
because there are better wards if you want to ward and better storms if you want to storm
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WAAAAI
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>>169776520
Anon that's a bunch of legendaries but...

You know what, you'll be fine champ

Go get em...
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>Playing Sun Satan opponent is Sword
>Try to mulligan assuming it's the typical net deck every Sword retard plays
>I guess exactly what cards he's going to play with 100% accuracy
>Die on turn 5 anyway because I got godawful draws
I hate aggro players so much playing against them is a coin flip there's no skill involved whatsoever
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>>169776520
I mean its a good draw, but we cant tell you if you should keep it if you dont tell us what you want to play.
>>
>>169776421
>>169776408
Nobody's given a clear translation but even if it has target immune + liza with a new effect with immunity to follower destroy/banish effects you'd still be able to board it. If it's just basically fanfare immunity you can still removal it or roots it, board it and drop wards.
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>ramp opponent playing satan when i'm still on turn 5
How is that fair
>>
>>169776682
commas

use them

>playing sun satan
>playing sun satan opponent
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>>169774869
No one wants to chime in?
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>>169776520
If there's nothing specific you want to paly that's a great draw. Just fucking take it and play dude. You get 1-2 legos a week

>>169776574
Fuck 4 attack and 8pp
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>>169776723

>drop wards
>hag just themis and slam your face with a 10/10

Nice wards you have there.
>>
>>169776723
all damage dealt to this card becomes 0
this follower is not affected by the abilities of other cards except for those that target atk/hp
>>
>got aggro atomemed in ranked AA2
>lost
I don't know whether to laugh or rage
>>
>>169776757
They built their deck to do that pretty low % of the time. The rest of the time they are at a distinct disadvantage, or autolose. If you wonder why satan is fine, just play any non-Haven version of it sometime and you'll soon see why it isn't top tier.
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>>169776520
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 1400 gold total
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

>>169776682
And I hate playing against your faggy ward spam into apoc. It's a two-way street
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>>169776661
TELL ME

>>169776686
>>169776817
i have nothing specific i really want to play, I want to play mill but I heard you guys dont have mill here
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>>169776568
pluto, themis... even windgod
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>>169776757
That it's a sub-5% nut draw?

>>169776863
I guess? I don't really see a problem with it. The games are too fast.
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>turn 3 bone chimera
>they ignore it because a single 1/1 is obviously a lesser threat than two 1/1's
>turn 4 Urd

Love this card so much
>they panic
>turn 5 wind god
>they don't even know where they went wrong
>>
>>169776927
This isn't a tier 1 deck by any means, but you can play Earth Rune. Which uses Pascal for a board of buff walls and either overwhelm using them or controlling til 10 for that Satan drop.

It's not that great, but it's a pretty fun time.
>>
>>169777036

Yet you hear someone complaining about a 5/5 that is much weaker.
>>
>>169776356
Zeus 10pp rush 10/10 fanfare negate all follower effects in play effect:Negate effects of followers put into play.

Yes no shadowbabs?
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>>169776682
aggro always for braindead farm shitters and this meta is the worst
But i hate Dshift even more
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>>169776927
Rerolling is honestly a waste of time unless you already know what you want to play or you are going to 100% be F2P, so don't worry about it. You get a lot of ways to open packs for free anyways.

Play the story mode of each craft, figure which playstyle you like the most, look up the popular lists for it, and go from there. Tia, Tsubaki, Odin, Daria, and Satan are all good right now, but who knows how the expansion will change it.

No direct mill, but you can make a few decks mill themselves. :^)
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>>169776863
bane/duza's gaze should probably work, it's not an ability and doesn't need any damage
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>>169777201
This is honestly what makes Shadowverse so painful. The meta can never improve, because everything that isn't FACE IS THE PLACE will autolose to D Shift, and Cygames is 100% okay with this.
>>
>>169775716

What's this event for?
>>
>Baphomet
>most relevant blood cards are at 4 attack

So except from Temptress, Azazel and Arthas, who else can we use this card with?
>>
>>169777201
>>169777278
Play midrange.
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>>169776337
>harder

It's the same rate you retard. Just harder to get 3 of the same type but thats better then getting 4+ of a single type since 1k vital is worthless then getting another lego.
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>>169774454
He's only a bronze.
>>
>>169777278
Agree with this. At least Seraph you have Odin, which isn't easy or fun to counter but at least it's possible. DShift has no counter except not to play control.
>>
>>169777201
using wards (or worse - heals) and removals on curve to grind the enemy or to be able to drop your wincon is more braindead and more cancerous than any aggro and even daria
>>
>>169777245
Gaze probably won't work because it's Medusa's ability.
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>>169777314
Iceblade
Soul Dealer
>>
>>169777278
>>169777374
It's a sad reality, but the main target for this game are students and salary men who play on the train or on breaks.
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>>169777349
>mid-range
>when Daria exists
You should take that stand-up comedian act on the road, anon. You could make a living.
>>
>>169777314
mastermind

>>169777360
yurius too
>>
>>169776520
Meme aside I wouldn't vital dragon flute or alexander because the new expansion might make it useable.
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>this is a 2PP 2/1

I question cygames' decision at times.
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>>169777465
Which benefits DShift how?
>>
>>169777497
Alexander is fucking dead because Khawy is a thing
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>>169777520
That cygames isn't interested in competitive players, only appealing to as many people as possible. Mainly students and salarymen.
>>
>>169776224
Head back right to reddit
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>>169777497
This. Even Soul Dealer is starting to look like he could become useful, you never know.
>>
>>169776927
You got some puppers with a gimpy leg but you'll be fine. You got odin and satan for everything. You can run a flute memer deck if you drew uriel's. Wolf's a very flexible forest card and tia's core. Pascale lets you run some budget dirt rune. Tsubaki's pure value in royal

>>169777161
The meta and everybody's card libraries are too thin to deal with plain morde's let alone nep basically fixing morde's only flaw. There's also the problem that only forest can stop his ability to attack next turn and doing so kills them anyway. The turns after they're also able to urd more out. I mean look at this shit

Everybody can take an odin but that isn't fetched like morde is
Haven/rune can transform/banish/conditionally banish it
Forest can take lily but that's more often than not a tech choice that can't bear a morde storm
Dragon can turn him into a dragon but it's a dead card more often than not in every other matchup and they don't have enough to bear with 3 nep, 2 morde
>>
Is it safe to vial Zirnitra?
>>
>>169777559
having a single card that a card is bad against doesn't make that card dead
>>
>>169777314
I already said earlier that it's perfect for Iceblade Warfiend because putting it down 1 turn earlier is a HUGE advantage.
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>>169777141
>Earth Rune
>fun
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>>169777641
Pretty much, seems like she'd benefit from a retroactive buff to make her fanfare an enhance effect.

That said I have 3 and I'm not liquefying them
>>
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv291918783

best SV streamer is live boys.
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>>169777641
ye
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>>169776356
Too many Olympians in RoB to fit in one expansion and also expecting other gods
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>>169777314
Mastema. I'm wondering how useful the enhance for Baphomet will even be since it'll be hard to play him on curve against aggro unless you want to be run over.
>>
>we're literally back in the DE meta.
GOOD LORD.
>>
>>169777497
Flute's fine, it always just needed non-gimmick draw and more competitive low-cost followers while it's trying to draw/uriel the flute out.

Alex is always dead because he doesn't have and can't get the health to hit more than 2 curve followers While being expensive as dicks. It's still fine to play until he gets his better cards.
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>>169776089
>gave his helmet to his gf to wear
>got cucked

pshaw
or possibly it was she who gave it to him
>>
>>169777661
Warfiend is solid but it's not really a swing card you know. Good stats with rush, but the effect only draws you a card. I guess it keeps you from burning out in the long run but it's no game changer on the turn you play it. Cblood doesn't need any more tempo cards and I don't see a midrange variant existing anytime soon.
>>
So that new haven legendary is completely unremovable from the board when it's played, right? Still haven't seen that clarified.
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>>169777672
>When the conjuring force golem protection hits just right

>>169777739
What was the DE meta?
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>>169776089
They're not that similar.
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>>169777739
I've seen no Elanas today so close, but no cigar
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>6PP 4/6 ward

I don't think Forest will use her.
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>>169777852
It's not immune to spells or damage from followers, only their effects.

DoD that nigga

I might be wrong though I didn't read it carefully
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>>169777497
dunno about flute but it is hard imagine alexander usable

also the next expansion is in a whole month
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>>169777857
Aggro Sword/Blood.
A LITTLE Aggro Shadow, I assume Aggro Shadow is the Nep deck though?
D Shift.
Elana/Seraph.
I'm not sure if OTK was that popular back then.
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>>169777504
>the average knight can kill this
>the average knight can't kill a goblin

???
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>>169777857
>What was the DE meta?

Bishop and Elf everywhere. We'll never actually go back to DE because Midrange Royal is dead though.
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>>169777857
lots of haven, sword and forest and then Dshift shitters. The only difference now is that we still have daria fags that will not let the deck go.
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>>169777920
literally a better tia and fairy beast at once
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>>169778009
Don't have children.
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Guys can I make a nep deck with only 2 neps? also it'll be nice to have a reference so post dick pls.
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Anyone else excited for neutral memes?
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what counters this new unga albert deck
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>>169778063
It's not ideal, but you can make a budget version. By not ideal, I mean like playing Aggro without 3x Cerb in that you'd never do it and expect the same results, rather than playing Seraph with only 2x Seraph in that some people do it and think its better.
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>>169777882
I just beat one. He quitted after i Bahamuted his board.
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>>169778097
Ramp Dragon
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>>169778056
have you hit your head as a baby, by any chance?
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>Reduces all damages towards this follower to 0
>This follower cannot be affected other cards' effect (Except for stat changing effect)
>(For example, this follower won't be affected by "Destroy" or "Banish" effect)

There you have it. Now start panicking about hagfag getting a better Morde.
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>>169778097
turn 8 ward

praying
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>new expansion is once again a bunch of random-ass cards with reused art and no coherent story, theme or design philosophy
>this time there's not even a new mechanic
Remember when people thought this game would be better than Hearthstone? Just compare this shit to the new HS expansion, lmfao. Absolute night and day in terms of professionalism.
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>>169777810
>but the effect only draws you a card

A card you can play on the same turn if you draw a 1-2 pp one because you put down a 5/7 rush for -4-pp
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>>169778076
God no. There's nothing more cancerous than neutral cards. If I wanted to play pirate stone against piratestone I'd be playing that instead.

>>169777882
Killed one with polyphonic ramp last thread
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>>169778146
LMAO WHAT
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>>169778097
>new
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>>169778146
So.... How do you get rid of it? Do non targeted effects work? Like themis or necroassassin?
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>>169778146
>play it
>die to roach immediately
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My bride.
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>>169776927
If you like mill you might like OTK dragon and discard dragon or a mix of both ( e.g dragoons in otk)
You mill yourself and nuke his face, its fun.
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>>169778146
So it really is immune to Bane as well?

Would Homecoming work?
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>>169778232

>Sun Guardian

Nice roach you have there.
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>>169778232
>reduces all damage to this follower to 0.
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>>169778232
>die to roach
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>>169777980
>Bishop and elf
>Not elf and royal with D.Shift
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>>169778172
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>>169778172
I absolutely agree! Not to mention that Hearthstone has no cancerous shit like:
-Haven
-Daria
-DShift
-Rune in general
-Rhinoroaches
-Salty cucks disconnecting after the loss
-Turn 6 lethals (fuck you Aggro Shadow)
-Half-naked cartoon children in card art
-3 copies of one legendary in a deck, i mean, what the fuck?

Hearthstone has:
-Less aggro
-More deck diversity
-More class diversity
-More (and better) singleplayer content
-Better waifus (pandas anyone?)
-Stories to tell your friends
-More epic memes!
-An actual future ahead of it instead of being a quick mobage cashgrab which is going to die in a few months like Shadowverse

Also Hearthstone's original dub voice is in English so weaboos can fuck off and kill themselves

Anyway i'm enjoying it a lot more than i did with Shadowverse. Check it out.
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>>169778216
reduce it's attack to 1
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>>169778263
Bane, Necroassassin, Themis, Homecoming and killing it with another minion all work
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>>169778295
>Dinosaurs expansion.
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>>169778235

If the Goblins are like this, why are Lucius and Co. hunting/exterminating them? It seems like they're just misunderstood
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Will Blood ever be playable again?
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>>169778271
anon, you die, not the follower

that guy will bury your body or something
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>>169778146
So... It's a seraph that takes another turn?

There isn't enough reasonable draw in the game for cheap ward spam to ever be viable too not to mention white paladin needing an evo.
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>>169778146
Woodkin curse?
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>>169778146
odin and baha getting indirectly nerfed
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>>169778146
>it's another "better not lose tempo against haven with infinite removal even once or else you lose" episode
have fun control friends
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Is that new midrange sword with Tsubaki, Lyrial, and Angel effective?
>>
Will transform effects like clay golem or snowman work on it?
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Stop playing Nep
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>>169778350
>anyone playing Woodkin Curse.
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>>169778264
it's immune to the effects of other cards other than stat changes

that includes guardian sun
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>>169778146
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>>169778232
It's a sun guardian win con dude.

>>169778146
What exactly does it say for cannot be affected by other cards effect. Is it literally others or is it fanfare/follower effect basically.
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Ramp Dragon will only get stronger with new neutrals and class related cards.

I might have to vial my Daria deck to fund this.
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>>169778336
they hunt down thle male goblins, kidnap female ones and sell them on the slave markets
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>>169778437
Do not fall for the ramp meme. It's awful. And Cygames is printing discard cards, so you probably won't see much support for it.
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>>169778437
Fuck off Ledouche.
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>>169778427
>What exactly does it say for cannot be affected by other cards effect. Is it literally others or is it fanfare/follower effect basically.

100% This. The way he translated it, it seems inconsistent as fuck as to what can hit it and what can't
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>>169778198
>>169778216
>>169778232
>>169778263
>>169778307
>>169778328
>>169778350
>>169778373
>>169778391

You guys can't even read nipponese, anon could have made all that shit up. Wait till we hear it from Cygames USA.
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>>169778371
it will be for a week or so

then people will learn how to play against it / tech DoDs and wards
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>>169778307
So... the unplayable Kaguya?
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>>169778474
>printing

Yeah I just walked up to the press and grabbed 200 copies of Vampy, guna masturbate hard when I get home.
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>>169778425
What you gonna do next to deal one damage?
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every time i read a new dragon card and see "discard" in the text i die a little inside because i know that the card might as well not even exist.
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>>169778475
delete.
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>>169778343
Literally never because they wasted the xpak card on a tutor ramp for fucking blood instead of what it needed

>>169778381
>not playing forest spirit
Takes 0 damage sadly so it doesn't matter
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>Since it cannot be damaged nor destroyed nor destroyed, it has a steep cost similar to Mordecai the Duelist. Its only disadvantage is not able to interact with the board without an evolution point, but it should be fatal for the opponent if it's played along with Guardian Sun. While it cannot be destroyed or banished, perhaps it can be dealt with Bane followers like from Lord of the Flies?

Damn, this magazine is confusing enough.
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>>169778446
What, really?

Then humans are actually the villains!
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>>169778550
owl guardian is good
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>>169778491
It's real
Even the text at the box says it's supposed to be a haven Mordecai
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>>169778548
smash a fairy into it prob who knows, gotta see the rest of the cards which come with the expac
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>>169778567
Looks like Odin will be must have for every decks now.
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>>169778350
>>169778425
and? it doesn't matter how many defense it has if you can't reduce it to 0

consider entangled vines
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>>169778491
i can read japanese

it takes 0 damage from anything ever
it ignores the affects of all other cards that would affect it other than stat changes
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>>169778592
N-no
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What happens if the flaming rats kill both leaders? Would the rune player win since it happens at the start of the enemy's turn?
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>>169778604

>smash fairy into it
>take 0 damage

What do?
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>>169778371
It's alright. It seems to be pretty bad if you go first though unless you make some changes to the deck, especially in a mirror match. It's pretty weak against Dorothy decks too.
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>>169778627
Cant banish it
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>>169778627
it's immune to banish
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>>169778329
Hey you little faggot, he might be shitposting, but don't you talk shit about dinosaurs.
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>>169778627
>Turn 10 do nothing will be broken
Is this a joke?
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>>169778494
Hm. It looked kind of questionable from first glance, but I'll give it a go.
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>>169778667
Fucking weeaboo
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Why does Haven get the ultimate meme immune follower when meme immunity is Dragon's thing?
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When's the new expansion coming out?

I might have to start saving e-shekels.
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>>169778437
Daria is futureproof, don't vial it.

The only ramp cards you really need are 2-3 breath of the salamander and optionally 2 wyvern cavalier. You can use anything you drew for the rest because that's the ramp engine. Ramp up and play strong cards earlier then either convert that momentum into VALUE like polyphonic or use it to kill like genesis

>>169778550
Fucking christ when will we get some normie draw or at least more when discarded cards.

>>169778692
Active player takes damage first. So whoever hit end turn loses.

>>169778756
>More turn count caps on the game
Jesus fucking christ kikegames what the fuck.
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>>169778783
>meme immunity is Dragon's thing
noble fangs, maniyu...
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>>169778756

>turn 10 do nothing

It's a turn 9 satan that starts knocking at your face starting turn 10
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Could Dirt Rune players pls give advice on my deck? Off-screen: 2x Satan

I have a lot of 2x followers which has me worried for consistency, but I'm not sure what to remove to put more copies in.
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>>169778785
End of march. It's 3 months per xpak. You should save up starting now to have 4,000 sheckles and the 10 launch packs for ~6 legos to use on launch

>>169778783
Dragon has cannot be attacked
Haven's main schtick is cannot be targeted followers which is bypassed by fucking everything.
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>>169778890
Why not just stitch a jpgtogether so it doesn't look like shit?
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>>169778427
>>169778483

It's just how it's worded. "Cannot be affected by other cards' effect"
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Will Dirt every get good card draw?
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>>169778890
get rid of 1x satan and replace it with another petrification
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>>169778991
There's a big risk of not drawing a win con then, is that really such a good idea?

And why Petrification as the extra necessary card? Why not an extra Veteran or Remi and Rami? Just curious, not criticising.
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>>169778891
>End of march
No more opening packs then.

And I still don't have Cerb, Odin or Bahamut.
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>>169778981
Yeah Rune needs some more card draw and some more good cards, it's a poor underpowered class no one plays and Cygames need to fix this!
Fucking retard
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>>169779080
Post main deck
What other decks do you play

How much do you care about playing each of these in the next 2 months:
* Playing other competitive decks
* Playing t3 decks for fun
* Playing meme decks for fun

Post legs+golds
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>>169778981
if you're not satisfied with fate's hand, i'm sure most every other control deck would be more than happy to take it
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>>169779037
Why would you not have a third 3pp odin? If you want a wincon, you can put some fate's hands in to draw satan easier
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>>169779037
Petrification is arguably the best single removal in the game since it can get rid of anything including Seraph for only 3 cost.
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What's the best time to play ranked? I guess that Japanese evening where master players are most active isn't really a good idea.
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>>169779037
It's 3pp fuck their shit
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>>169779291
the start of an expansion when people haven't figured out the optimal decks
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Does anybody feel that Cygame devs loves hags and oversized tits or something?

Mainly about Rune and Haven
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>>169779350
>It's a turn later seraph you can ward flood
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>>169777672
Making your opponent have the least fun possible is fun
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>>169779393
>implying you aren't going to just get themis'd bro
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>>169779317
>>169779283
>>169779239
And the best thing to remove for it is Satan? And there's nothing else worth removing or putting in?
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>run deck without bahamut for once
>3 back to back ptp forests when i've seen maybe 1 in the past month and a half
very interesting matchmaking
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>>169779324
Can attest to this, Darias in the first day were a LOT less effective than now. It seems like the major change was them realizing they could just kill you with chip and burn from hand.
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>>169779393

>play wards
>themis
>heavenly aegis not destroyed and resummoned like morde, therefore can attack
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>>169779350
japs love big tits
>>
I'm pretty happy I can play my Nepu deck in ranked now, I was getting bored of playing aggro Necro.
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So its a future expansion pack?
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>>169779520
That's life senpai. Put pressure so he already spent them
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>>169779393
>ward floor

you can kill the hag
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>>169778567
>you can bane it
There's a counterplay at least I guess.
>>
> Destroy all copies of a card in the field, deck, hand that his effect targets
How does this Zeus sound?
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>>169779819
Voices of Resentment for Nep
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>>169778567
Literally this but
>can't be destroyed, can attack on evolve
Unless Haven players stick Olivia into their decks, nobody is gonna use that new leggo. Skullfane-tier.
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>>169779913
Nepnep wins again.
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>>169779942
Forgot the pic
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>>169779942
But Sun guardian already runs Olivia.

Seems really fucking dumb desu. A ward that cannot be damaged or destroyed, what the fuck were they thinking. I always wanted a Sun Guardian Mordecai to fuck around with but it wasn't to further the cancer spread of Haven.

I think someone is translating wrong
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>>169779169
>>Post main deck
Seraph

>What other decks do you play
Poorfag Dirtrune, Daria, Satan Forest

I just reached Masters with good old Seraph, mainly want to get some ranking points for the new sleeves and emblems without shit winrate

Legs and golds:
https://i.imgur.com/SxQDBQS.png
https://i.imgur.com/weqtCGE.png
https://i.imgur.com/R0xeHNQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/S7JEFD3.png
https://i.imgur.com/qDN6AJR.png
https://i.imgur.com/Dnb9XOR.png
https://i.imgur.com/j6kSfEn.png
https://i.imgur.com/xd1htjG.png
https://i.imgur.com/d5KmIoO.png
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Fucking fuck this RNG fiesta.
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>>169778567
>>169779942
>can attack on evolve

is this supposed to mean that it can't attack at all unless evolved like imprisoned dragon?
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>>169779942
imagine it works with guardian sun
>>
>Upcoming Card Pack Ticket
Exciting!
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>>169780060
it can't be affected by anything other than stat changes, this means it can't gain ward
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>>169780060
Its just a big wall that does nothing, anon. I'm sure Bahamut wipes it in no time.
>>
is this upcoming card pack a bug
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>>169769294
>check out aggro sword
>it goes to an amazon site

what memery is this?
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>>169780121
So what's its purpose then?
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>>169780073
Yes.
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>>169780229
>what's the purpose of a 10/10 that can't be killed
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>>169779705
I suspect, no free 10 packs on release anymore...
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>>169780303
>expecting 100 free packs on release everytime.
Jesus.
>>
>aggro sword T1
>midrange sword T1
It's like we're in DE all over again.

>bats somehow T1 again
wat

>aggro shadow T1
lol

Who the fuck makes those lists?
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>>169780343
>not expecting free packs on release
Get out of here.
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>>169780229
A fancy card to be vial'd.
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>>169780276
>what's thje purpose of doing nothing on turn 9
To lose the game, of course.
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>>169780073

It is just figurative speaking. It cannot attack the moment it's played because it doesn't have Rush just like Mordecai.
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>>169780343
100 packs? It's ungrateful people are asking for 1000 packs. They can't just give 10000 packs away for free like that!
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How many rupies do you usually set aside for a new expansion? I've got 5000~ now which is how much I spent on RoB. I would spend any excess from now on on existing packs, but with there being 2 legendaries per craft (?) with TotG I feel like its best to save every last bit.
>>
Okay, I think I figured out the new Haven legendary. Cygames hated how control v control games could drag on longer than the normal 3 minutes, so they added DShift-esque unstoppable wincons to more classes. It won't be vulnerable to Bane or anything else because it's meant to be a time limit- race it or concede and requeue.

It's possible I'm wrong, but at least if I turn out to be right we can all agree Shadowverse is dead.
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>>169780438
>"le everything has to do something on the same turn its played or its bad :DD" meme
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>>169779913
Madam lich, andras, soul glutton, soul grinder too
Dragon has Masamune whatever
Blood has medusa, gaze, cobra
Sword has fangblade who's bane rush
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>>169780276
It can't gain ward and it's useless without evolove. Did you just drop that? Here's your Albert to face. Have a nice match.
>>
CARDS

https://shadowverse.jp/sp/cardpack/tempestofthegods/
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>>169780481
By turn 9 Haven already won the match with Seraph. Nothing will change for Haven.
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Please match me privately and concede
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>>169780454
>bane, ward, storm 5/10 10pp

I hope it's fake. It's fucking trash.
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>>169780524
>1/4 blood

This is gonna go great.
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>>169780524
>Fanfare: Deal 1 damage to all other followers
>Enhance 8: Deal 3 damage to all other followers instead
>>
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>>169780303
so, that ticket just disappears or something?
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>>169780481
Name one other card that does nothing and takes up your entire turn that's good. Putting up a ward counts as doing something.
>>
>living in japan
>all the japanese friends at school play this instead of heartshtone

okay I think i'm forced to start this
I will need some unbiased opinions from you guys
I only watched my friends play this, and this game looks aggro as FUCK, even control decks don't last that long and most matches are decided early
is this true?

Also from watching my friend, the game seems imbalanced as FUCK, how does this game do in terms of balance

>inb4 hearthstone isn't balanced retard
I know, I hardly play that game but it's the only card game I played before
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>>169780638
Seraph
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>>169780589
It's actually really nice and versatile for Saha package.
>>
>>169780618
Not even bad, man.
>>
what does zeus do?
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>>169780617
Ward
Fanfare: If you're not in Vengence, your leader takes 2 damage.
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>>169780625
>Zeus
>nothing like Eramus effect
Into the trash it... Fuck Cygames
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So it has storm?
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>>169780589
if it is real, it wouldn't be awful since saha exists to cheat him out for board clearing or face damage.
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>Mastema sleeves and emblem are the lower tier ranked rewards this time while Masamune is the higher tier ranked reward

Maybe I can actually rest easy for March...Masamune doesnt feel like good sleeves for Dragon if anything

>>169780524
Zeus: 10 PP, 5/10 with Storm, Bane and Ward

Oh my god, that is T2 value
>>
>>169780713
>two legos for each class.
wew lad.
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>>169780693
Fucking Saha's butt behind Lucifer's back.
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>>169780589
>fake
it's literally on the official page
>>169780524
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>>169780589
Bahamut really redefined what's acceptable at 10pp though. Most 10pp legendaries are gonna be trash after him.
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>>169780618
h-has anyone seen otohime lately? i'm really worried about her
>>
>>169780376
It's based off Japanese Master players and tournament go-ers.

>>169780632
They aren't stupid. I'm sure any tickets you gain from rewards will just accumulate until the expansion is out.
>>
>>169780625

Poor Andras. He cannot even compare.
>>
Let me tell you what will happen for Control Blood next expansion. Blood will be able to OTK at Turn 10. Here is the combo :

Turn 5 at least, play Baphomet enhanced to fetch Azazel, and reduce its cost by 3.

Turn 10, here you go.
- Play Azazel 5-cost. You'll both be at 10 HP.
- Play Demon Commander Laura for 3-cost, Azazel now has Storm.
-Evolve Azazel and play Keen Enchantment for 2-cost, Azazel is now 11/9. You're dead.
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>>169780632
Yeah pretty much.
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>>169780641
First piece of advice, start associating with non-B shitters.
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>>169780589
not worth 10pp.
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Which one is less shitty? I didn't pull any lucifers so saha is useless too.
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>>169780548
hana kana is a bad girl who doesn't even bother to wear panties!
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>>169780618
>Fafnir is unplayable now, so here's a better version
Eh, it's okay, and acceptable because it's silver, but still not sure I'd run it in a real deck, 8pp is a busy place
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Guys please. The English site also updated.
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>>169780835
At least Fafnir's an 8/10, this guy is still a 4/4 on turn 8.
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>>169780803
Works with Razory Claw too. That's probably smarter than keen enchantment.
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>>169780808
I mean he isn't high rank I think, but he has all meta decks (The elf aggro, witch one, dragon control which is like OTK desu)

Witch deck looks retarded though, how does it get -mana cost on every card for every spell you play?
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>Sahaquiel gets a better gilgamesh to smack face with

Ramp dragon just keeps getting better.
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>>169780813
Stratagem is less bad than I thought. Saha obviously depends on your other picks.
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>>169780713
STD has 318 cards
DE has 109
RoB has 105
and TOG apparently has 104

so less non-legos than ever before
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>Zeus is literally another Ramp Card to fuck over everyone with Saha.
Fuck off, SAHA IS BECOMING MORE BROKEN.
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I swear this game is giving me my Mordecais and Neps in my starting hand on purpose.
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>>169780867
Yeah, but you have more room to fit in a 4/4
Fafnir isn't in decks anymore because he overlaps too much with Bahamut, you don't need another 9 drop, at least this guy can be a 4 drop body
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67719
Please concede
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Someone ID this guy.
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>>169780803
surely you will have all that stuff on hands right when you need it
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>>169780879
Only certain cards reduce their cost with each spell played while the card is in the hand at the time of spell resolution.
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>>169780743
Why not just grab them for collector's sake? I only log on to complete dailies and I have no problems reaching 12000 every season.
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>>169780917
Still, Zeus has to compete with Bahamut and heck, Genesis Dragon for Ramp

I cant really quite tell whats going to happen in a new meta, so I probably wont judge
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Is it normal for expansion packs to come out when less than a few months have passed?
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Zeus should be:

Ward
Rush or Bane
Target a enemy follower for 7 damage every turn
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>Still don't get all the Gold and Legend from RoB
>New expansion already on the way.
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>>169781028
It's been 3 months.
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>>169780949
i-it's my first time playing this game what do I do, do I just match up with you and end turn forever?
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>>169780898
>>169780841
>>169780835
>>169780803
>>169780768
>>169780713
>>169780708
>>169780704
>>169780693
>>169780625
>>169780618
>>169780589
>>169780682
>>169780709
>>169780524
>>169780917
Why should I play Zeus or Bahamut instead of IMPERIAL DRAGOON on my soon to be Tier 1 Discard Dragon Deck?

You guys are totally over hyping those garbage turn 10 cards, when I can OTK with Dragoon on turn 9 or 7.
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>>169780983
Well, theres always that I guess

Last season, I didnt notice I had gotten Feena's sleeves and emblems while not moving much in AA1

>>169781028
It's actually almost 3 months already, Bahamut was in December.
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>>169781028
Shadowverse releases expansions every three months. It's been two months since the last one.
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Why stop at 2 legos
Why not just make 10 legos
20
100!
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>>169780995

>compete with genesis
>2 damage less for two useful abilities

Zeus will be good for Ramp.
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>>169781075
YY shitter
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>>169781075
If you reliably OTK'd on 7 with Dragoon, discard dragon wouldn't have such terrible winrates
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>>169780771
8pp to clear a 6pp board isn't that good. This guy at least has the decency to leave the turtle alive, unless you spend an evo point.
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>>169781061
Once we're in a game, you go to the options tab in the upper left corner and choose quit. But since you're new you probably haven't done all the private match quests yet, so if you want to do that just play nothing and I'll kill you.
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>Blood getting a better snake priestess

H-hurray for blood control¿
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>Haven got nothing this patch and still manages to be a tier 1 deck
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>>169781226
Haven will always be relevant because of great Banish and Board clear and Seraph.
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>>169781210

if vengeance isn't active you damage your leader by 2
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>>169781095
Eh, generally Ramp Dragon's curve is a bit heavy on the top

So card competition is inevitable, given how aggro and midrange is always going to stay relevant, thats something to consider about
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>>169781226
>Mufasa
>Tribunal
>nothing
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You weebcucks will eat it up anyway no matter how much they ruin the game
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>>169780641
First : This game is really generous the packs are the same cost of HS but they give more than 48 packs FREE to everyone, you also can re roll( read the OP) and have a perfect start.
They just made a patch giving more 2,8k of free golds and you still can have more 1,4k + 2,0k.
You literally can make two (2) tier 1 decks days 1 even if you don't re roll so you should give a try.
Second: The legendary pull rate is 1,5% almost 1 lego each 9 packss and you can have 3 of the same in the deck so even if there are 40 cards SV is more about consistency
>Balance
All crafts ( classes ) have more than 10% of representation and everything has a good matchup against something elsethe unique unfair and shit deck is d-shift which roll over control but lose to anything agressive so 50% of winrate to all classes is pretty common.
>fast
This game is fast because is suppose to be a mobile game and Control decks have real win condition just take a look at seraph card, is pretty common to aggro decks end win at t6 or lose but there are Control vs Control that end at 10.
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>zeus is shit

Do you guys forget about Saha?
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Who is this mystery man? I assumed it's Odin but I'm not sure.
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>>169781226

>tribunal and lion
>nothing

Why lying?
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>>169781298
back to hsg shitter.
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>>169781291
but if you play it turn 2, it kills their 2 drop and absorbs 4 damage.
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>>169780618
>Fafnir being cucked by a silver card

As if it wasn't bad enough he was shit on by a better Dragon and a lion in another class.
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>>169781202
Anon-chan sugoi. You're very nice.
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>>169781210
Blood got all the good shit in this pack. Baphomet is the most promising card for the nips also right now.
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>playing vampy aggro on ladder at A0
>oh hey it's d-shift
>they play summon snow while I have a Yurius on the field
>they evolve one to kill yurius because they can't kill the 3/4 evolved cursebrand instead
>I swing lethal the next turn off of a really shitty hand at the start

Get fukkin rekt, d-shitter.
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>>169780068
Don't vial your animated rares, the draft rate is too low

x1 Flute if you don't want to meme
x1 soul dealer Vengeancecraft is ass
x1 Beast dominator Vengeancecraft is ass
x1 fairy princess, dead play and better alternatives
x2 Skullfam unless you'll meme with count haven
x1 golem
x1 Jeanne
x1 (maybe) Atomy If you don't want to meme
x1 (maybe) Rose queen If you don't want to meme
x1 (maybe) Dragoon If you don't want to meme
8,000-11,000 vials


x2 Front Lines
x3 Hare If you don't want to meme in count havencraft
x2 Simalacrum if you don't want to meme in forest/dragon with evo cards
x1 Gemstaff
x1 Madam lich, hardly have a board, she's 6 shadows, and costly to use with stuff that shits out ghosts and stuff that cost shadows
x2 Teena, your class specific is better unless you want to tech her for clearing goblinmounts
x1 Petal fencer, if elf tempo swings back you can just recraft to lionel combo
x3 Deathmist is a meme that needs too many pendants to work and dies to everything
x1 Phantom dragon's a dead 4-drop and your alt cards are better
x1 Lucius is meh in removalcraft if you aren't gonna run him in JO dragon
x1 Gemstones if you don't want forest tempo
x1 Non-animated conjuring force if you don't want to conj meme
x2 titania's if you don't want forest tempo
cont
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>>169780713
2 useful legendary for sword and 2 trash shit for blood.


anyone want to make a bet?
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>>169781332
>it kills their 2 drop
wut
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>>169781350
Thank you for your help.
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>>169781383
>>169780068
x1 Non-animated Arthurian light if you don't want to castle arthur's resolve or ironwrought-light command craft
x2 Non-animated pheonix roost, you have to nut draw too hard for the roost meme kill
x1 Angel crusher, needs rites and dies to removal anyway. Keep if you disco dragon ptp
x2 Athena, you don't have a living tempo board to gain from her
x1 Arcane enlightenment, powercreeped by daria
x1 wyrm spire if you don't want to ramp it to keep your dead draw's relevant
x1 non-animated laelia. t6 do-nothing that gets wrecked
x2 Dragonbond mage if you're not going to run a conjuring force list
x2 Chorus of prayer if you're not going to run count havencraft
x1 Polyphonic roar if you're going to run storm dragon since you got genesis/forte
35 golds for ~8,750

So there's 4-5 legos. I recommend odin or bahamut since you get standard packs from arena.

>>169780618
I can feel the JO flowing through me

>>169780867
Flexible
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>>169780813
At least you can use Charllotte
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What happens when Seraph faces Daria?
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>>169781439
>I can feel the JO flowing through me
>JO
>using followers
>ever
you are weak
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>>169781391
Both blood cards are very good so far, I'm betting that bloods control legendary will be insane to compensate for its shit win rate this expansion. They're already giving it a win condition + tutor and another early game taunt.
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2 leggos per craft, they are surely getting greedy
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>>169781316
Even without Saha he's good.
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>>169781450
Daria wins unless Seraph gets early 2 Themsis and Cudgel in hand.
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> Zeus has bane
> All class have access to bane now
AEGIS COUNTER IS BANE GUYS
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I'm already disappointed in Zeus desu. I also don't like all those fucking neutral overstated cards popping left and right. RoB got Feena and now we get Goblin princes.
Feels like soon all decks would lose their Identity and just play the Saha package because it's so much fucking value.
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Why bother playing Forte when you can Saha + Zeus? RIP
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>>169781313
is there no way to counter the seraph deck other than killing him? I saw him play against it once but it seemed pretty gay

Is it possible to play a mega anti-fun control build that goes on 20+ turns
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>>169781479
well they did 1 in RoB so.................?
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>>169781450
Tribunal, Pray, Themis, Themis, Seraph, Tribunal
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>>169781460
Your zeal blinds you brother

>>169781479
1 lego was shit t. Alexander, flute, pascale , matriarch, eidolon, dragoon
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>>169781506
>goblin princess
>overstated

You alright? That card is shit and won't see any play outside arena.
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>>169781450
I generally win against darias

t. Seraph player
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>>169781529
now again in a coherent english
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>>169781506
I warned you shitposters. I am officially your oracle.
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>>169781562

Not him, but any deck that wants an instant board can use her.
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>>169781317
Cu Chulainn, or in Queen Medb's naming scheme Cu Hoolin

Possible commander or leggo for sword
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>>169781578
Whenever I play Seraph against Daria I go second and they flood the board turn 4, leading to them doing a whole turn or two of damage against me even if I draw Lion Spirit.
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>>169781496
But Seraph has a positive winrate against Daria and Sledgehammer > Cudgel against Daria
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>>169781429
Is it for an achievement?
I'm doing the storymode atm...
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>>169781529
You can have grindy games that go to fatigue but the 10pp cards have strong effects that can end games if they aren't answered.

If the opponent does have answers though the game can last a long time.
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Will JO dragon get anything?
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>le old as dirt man xp
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>>169781529
>is there no way to counter the seraph deck other than killing him?
You can use Odin and Petrification it.
>Is it possible to play a mega anti-fun control build that goes on 20+ turns
the unique deck that can make it is Cblood and Seraph or Sun Satan.
Is better use haven as a new player since is the cheapest and because of themis Haven will never be irrelevant.
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New Zeus card has storm, bane and ward.
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>>169781695
lol.
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>>169781529
Play rune for more banish/transform
Field enough burn to send him packing
Burn his board and soul

>>169781506
>Soon
They already have gotten well out of control It's pretty sick when neutral blood is better than blood.
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>>169781606
I can't english
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>>169781645
I'm really exicited for any neutral spell or spell cards for dragon
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>>169781695
it's shit, bahamut is better in every way.
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i'm glad i crafted 2 sahas and a lucifer the other day, looks like the neutral package will only get stronger.
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>>169781157
It only has bad winrate because of unga bunga shitter don't know how to play the thinking's man deck. Same goes for control blood.
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>>169781628
Yes, there is an achievement for playing a Private Match without conceding. You can do it 20 times, but it has to be against different players.
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>>169772846
>Crystalia Erin
Erin! Erin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WbDYqudxs8
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>>169781316
>Hoo boy I used Saha to kill one minion or do 5 damage to face
Sorry but in most situations when you do Saha + Zeus, Zeus is just acting as a Lucifer without the heal, or a Gilgamesh
The 10 spot is already way too crowded for ramp, Zeus would have to do something far more interesting
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>>169781645
That silver fafnir apparently.
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>>169781695
What did Old Zeus have?
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>>169780618
I can see myself using this, especially if Aggro Bats or Forest gets uppity again at the start of next expansion. Salami Breath not giving you a way to contest the board afterwards has always kind of hurt.
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Cyjewmes wants to make money with all these legendaries, especially with Zeus.
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>>169781819
>>169781819
>>169781819
New thread
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>>169781746
Is this what Dragon has come to? Needing neutrals to save its ass rather than just having good Dragon cards?
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>>169773321
>5PP
>Evolve
>Discard

>8/9
>5PP
Could be pretty good desu. But what Discard really needs to work are more cards with effects upon being discarded.
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>>169781838

>740

Fuck you.
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>>169780589
>More saha neutralcraft cancer
T-Thanks....
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>>169781825
Why, he's not even good?
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>>169781825
>they just gave 2,8k of gold
???

>>169781856
Only dragon can JO and Saha Ramp early
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>>169781752
Didn't know Baha had Ward and Storm.
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>>169781752
think about the dshift matchup, anon.

that face damage matters when you're sending him out with sahaquiel and if he uses removal on your earlier followers then he'll lose a large amount of his damage if he has to send them into zeus.
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Need a concede please

54216
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>Wrath drake is a 5pp making it unplayable due to tutor pollution
Jesus bozo, take some time off of sucking the bang and a boom roach cock for a second to understand how the deck you fucked with gimmick draw works.

>Vengeancecraft gets a second cheap ward to go with its metal gargoyles
>Doubles as a vengeance popper
Yeeeees
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>>169781895
People love to use Saha and her emblem. Zeus only elevate its value.
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>>169781439
>So there's 4-5 legos. I recommend odin or bahamut since you get standard packs from arena.
Thanks anon.

I suppose two bahas are enough?
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>>169780693
Sahabutt sends out mega-gilgamesh to face or kill something problematic
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>>169781913
Control decks benefit of Saha rather than it do with their own cards.
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Zeus is literally irrelevant because genesis dragon is better. Nice "meta-shifting" lego you got there, Cygames.
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>>169782120
Sure? It'll do it.
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Anyone got aggro sword lists to share?
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>>169782221
Genesis dragon doesn't have ward and isn't neutral.
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>>169782495
>Dragon still has no tier 1 deck
>Ramp dragon has been on the verge of being T1 for a long time
>Lol have some discard memes and cyanide gas Rowen
>Here's a neutral legendary for all the other control oriented decks out there but you can suck our collective company deck Rowen
>thank you kikegames
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>>169782640
>10 cards out of 100+ revealed
>Already crying
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>>169782687
It's hard to be particularly optimistic when the first hype reveal is yet another shitty Discard follower.

Man I love ramping into these Discard cards so I can discard my OTK discard cards faster.

>>169782640
collective company dick* obviously
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>>169781167
>That pic
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>>169781226
haven's cancer from DE can carry it to 2018 easily
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>>169782813
>5pp discard 1 card for 8/9
>Muh OTK
Maybe you should try looking outside the box
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>>169782640
Dragon that ramps is t1
Storm ramp's t2
Flute's decent draw away from t2
Neutral bahamut was so disgusting
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>>169782640
>Dragon is bad and doesn't get love because it has to abuse neutral cards that everyone has access to
I'm getting really tired of this meme now. Dragon is the #1 target for those neutrals because it can ramp and use them to their full potential. They were printed for Dragon to begin with. There's a good reason any Control Deck that tried to play neutralcraft gets shit on by Dragon.

Often imitated, never duplicated
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>>169783246
But as already established, we already have Genesis Dragon that does the same thing and does more damage while at it.

It's not like we need the bane when we already run Bahamuts and Odins. Ward's an okay addition I guess but it's just gonna get removed anyway.
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>>169783246
If anything, I found it hilarious that Bahamut, the most famous dragon of RoB, is neutral but not dragoncraft. But then in practice Bahamut is almost always used by Dragoncraft anyway
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>>169783384
Genesis Dragon doesn't have synergy with Sahaquiel. Ward is a huge deal, you can push for damage while setting up a Ward. It can prevent any Storm damage while being proactive and aggressive. It can be a very defensive play as well, it's a 10/10 Ward that can kill a follower instantly after all. Genesis Dragon can't even compete, Zeus is very versatile. You can even say that Zeus powercreeped Genesis.

>>169783420
Pretty much. Bahamut being Neutral doesn't break the game. If anything, it brings more diversity and fun to the game. Sure, other crafts can enjoy the card, but they can't make T6-T7 Bahamut plays like Dragon can. Bahamut was made for Dragon and printed as Neutral because why the fuck not.
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>>169777296
>ayy Google translate
Rage of Bahamut
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>>169780081
Your mom is an upcoming Slut Ticket
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