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Mercy Edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

Previous thread: >>169680869
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Asked this before:
>50+ hours played
>No prestiged heroes due to taking forever to settle on a pool of mains and not touching 4v4
>About to prestige my main
Is it a waste to scavenge for a P1 hero? I doubt I'm getting to P3 any time soon.
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>be conqueror
>rarely ever miss a tech gb
>get accused of hacks all the time

A fucking red icon flashes on your screen telling you when to do it. God damn people are retarded
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>>169696636
Yes, its a waste.

Open a few if you absolutely need two, but save most/steel for P3
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nth for I wish this game was cheaper, sale when
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>Disconnected 3 times in the middle of matches in the past 5 minutes
>No bug fixes of any relevance in the new patch
>PK getting buffed

This game is fucking done. I quit
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What even happened to Mercy by the end of the campaign? We know the Warden left the Blackstones to reform the Iron Legion, and he took Holden Cross and the Conqueror bro with him, but no word on Mercy the Peacekeeper. Did she jump ship with the Warden, or did she go down with the ship with Apollyon?
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>>169696723
Fuck off
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>>169696789
No one knows
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>>169696723
this was made and posted first, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>169696723
>>169696723
>>169696723
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>>169696723
>>169696817
>made 19 seconds later
>real
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Whoop de doo. Ran MalwareBytes, Defrags. More Scans and nothing is wrong with system.
What the fuck Ubi. Latest patch broke my game, all this memory leak is making the game unplayable.

Give Help PC Bros
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Reminder to report the thread wars autists
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>>169696817
>>169696723
Kill thine self
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Anyone have a link to VOD of that big tournament that happened like 2 days ago?
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For weapon stats, which are the two best stats to prioritize?
Attack and def or attack and stamina cost?
Nobushi btw
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any tips for fighting conqs as lawman?

all i can ever do is the long arm to flip him and get a light poke in before he turtles again. makes such a boring fight of attrition and i usually end up getting caught with my pants down at some point.
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What is the most beautiful possible duel in this game between 2 equally skilled players?

No gimmicks, just pure skill.
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>>169696789
Isn't Mercy the PK that's in Iron Legion clothing in the cathedral mission? I just assumed it's her.
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Nth for assblasted Pisscucker mains desperately trying to justify their broken lowskill character
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>>169696859
That doesn't even matter, whoever links their thread first wins. There's nothing more to it and only attention whores care
>>169696703
Does leveling accelerate when prestiged or something? I can't wrap my head around these P6s
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>>169696589
It was duel.
Guy was incredible passive too and wouldn't parry so feints weren't doing shit
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So did they ruin guard breaks?
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>>169696861
There's no helping it, anon. You can try reinstalling the fucking thing but it's happening to a lot of people. Shit used to happen only after hours and hours of gameplay but it seems to happen randomly now. Sometimes, one player DCs and the whole game just crashes to desktop too.
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>>169697016
wtf?? i hate this thread now!!!!
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>>169696789
>the observables in each level are about explaining why Apollyon is doing what shes doing and the things she has seen, done, and learned about the three factions
>except in Mercy's level where they're all about how edgy Mercy is
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>>169697067
They reverted them to how they were in the beta, which means babby-mode easy to tech which is a massive mistake.

Honestly any idiot who practices it for 30 seconds straight can tech with ease
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>>169697041
>Does leveling accelerate when prestiged or something?
Remember how leveling from 1-10 was a lot faster than 10-20? That happens again every time you prestige.
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>last stage on vikang story
>that poor nobushi at the end who tries to defend the gate to her village or whatever
>wow, that was kindof a sad statement about how war works and who really gets hurt by the transfer of burdens
>seems like a good end, expect it to be over
>golden meme orochi appears
>shadow clone jutsu, time to find the real one
>except they don't go pop when you hit them, they're literally people with full healthbars dressed up like the boss
>toss all three over the cliff at once like a bunch of bowling pins
>"you are a raider; legendary"
>oh haha, it's that meme. I guess it is kinda funny how he says it, but it seems overblown.
>"you are a raider; legendary"
>"you are a raider; legendary"
>"you are a raider; legendary"
>"you are a raider; legendary"
>strips off his armor
>"I must- defeat you!"
>"I must- defeat you!"
>"I must- defeat you!"
>"I must- defeat you!"
OUTSTANDING
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>>169697020
I would've guessed as much. Every named knight PC abandons Apollyon and joined the Warden. Hell, at the end of the Knight campaign, the Warden directly calls out Mercy that she took an oath like him to protect the peace and execute justice.
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>>169697192
aaaaaaaaaaaaa. Maybe, I've narrowed down my hero pool but I'm still playing four or so regularly.
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>>169696789
Mercy is seen in Iron Legion colors alongside the other Blackstone deserters following the Warden.
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>>169697119
It's happening to me right after 5 minutes, when during matchmaking screen. Then everything just falls apart. :( Too bad I can't get refund anymore since I played it for 100+ hours.
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I actually think people tried starting a thread war because the OP is a PK

pathetic
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Okay, I'm only Rep1 and I started a few days ago, but I went straight to Lawman because plate mail is my jam.

I'm still working on parrying but the block-shove counter is incredible. Unless you're a shugoki you can't pull off shit on me and it eats so little stamina bad guys run themselves ragged trying to get past it.

Why do you guys keep saying he sucks?
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>tfw u feign and they try to parry!!
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>>169697067
Literally all they did was make it so that if you got guardbroken mid-guardbreak animation you can still tech it.
I'm not a big fan of the change but its not nearly as bad as the autists screaming "THEY MADE IT BABBY EASY WAAAAAH" make it out to be.
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>>169697146
honestly it doesn't matter if they're easy or hard to execute at high level play so long as they work
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>>169697146
The people who couldn't be bothered to learn how to tech it pre-patch won't do it now either, it was easy enough already. The game is just filled with bads who want to find any excuse for their shitty plays.
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>peaceshitter keeps spamming lights
>succesfully parry one
>GB into lava
>disconnects
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>>169697329
You can try making a big deal of it though on the Steam forums or something. If the game is literally unplayable, they'll still issue a refund if you make enough noise. Good luck anon, sorry shit went south for you that badly.
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>>169697041
>That doesn't even matter, whoever links their thread first wins.
this thread still wins autismo
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>>169697450

This one has more posts. We can use that one later. Stop spamming, you autist.
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Who's the worst after today? I want to main them.
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Anyone else use Steam Big Picture to try to remap an x360 controller? Pic related completely breaks controller functionality and I don't know why
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>>169697405
This shit happens in every general
>PKIDF
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>>169697141
Mercy only comes across as an assassin who executes Apollyon's will, yet the hero trailer implies she enacts the will of a nondescript order/church while keeping the peace, doing typical assassin stuff and keeping secrets that can "destroy or make legends."

I think Mercy, while capable, isn't a very compelling Peacekeeper. All she is is a fixer.
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dead thread
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>>169697410

Because it doesn't work at high level play. You just get tech'd.
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WHY THE FUCK DID THEY ADD A QUIT TO DESKTOP BUTTON IN THE LOBBY
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who THE FUCK IS HTIS GIUY???

>>169696543
EU:
<Big Guys> @ Silvermoon (Alliance)
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I swear, Swedes are the easiest to trigger when you give them the silent treatment.
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>try to play a quick dominion match for the orders before work
>fucking disconnect 7 times out of 7 different games
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169697521
PK

if you were already playing PK you're bad enough, but if you switch to PK now because buffs that's even lower
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>>169697521
Now that Valkyrie has been buffed into relevancy, Lawbringer can take his rightful place as the weakest character in the game.
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What's the shittiest hero in the game atm? I love being enraged when I play am looking to enhance my experience.
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>>169697205
>strips off his armor
L-lewd.
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>>169697634
degenerate fat blob of shit
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>>169697634
Are you the guy that made the other thread?
Shitting up the thread isn't going to solve your woes.
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Why is there some assblasted downie that's uploading his shit?
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>>169697492
No shit, I'm not disagreeing. I was complaining about the autist trying to derail THIS one
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>>169697548
>>169697490
>>169697368
>>169697364
>>169697305
>>169697291
>>169697234
>>169697229
>>169697139
>>169697016
>>169696817
>>169696723
Nth for buttbothered anon shilling his thread and shitposting so hard he's formed a significant fraction of the posts in this thread
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>>169697747
He's mad his thread got beaten to the punch by a few seconds.
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I'll repost this question, but

Main Warden or Warlord?
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>>169697768
>Anon buttblasted that his special thread wasn't chosen.
>Keeps posting in the thread everyone's at, increasing the post count and thus ensuring that this is the thread being used.
Really makes the neurons blink.
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you try to ruin my thread with your shitty images? I'LL RUIN YOU'RE LIFE!!
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>>169697798
Warlord is a lot more versatile and interesting FWIW.
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>>169697795
>Thread war retardry
I'll never understand this
How underage do you have to be to care about shit like that
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>>169697798
Warden
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>>169697798
warden is OP because of scumbaggery and breaking the game

warlord is OP because he's ridiculously overstatted
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>>169697798
Both are really good for different reasons. Warden if you want to do a little of everything and be oppressive, Warlord if you want to be an unbreakable turtle who forcibly dictates the pace of a match.
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>>169697656
Very good, just as planned.

I am ready to git gud.
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>>169697798
Warlord if you want easy mode
Warden if you want easy mode
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>>169697901
>overstatted
what? he's OP because allblock R2
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>>169697693
It was a tossup between Valkyrie and Lawbringer. Now that Valk was buffed, LB is verifiably the worst character in the game now.
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>>169698008
LB vs Raider, which is the worst?
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>>169697912
I feel like warlord being as good as he is is a sign of a bigger problem of there's no real counter to good defensive play, to the point where high-level play boils down to feint fests.
If we could get some more options for dealing with turtling he'd be fine.
And pls nerf his throw distance because holy shit im tired of being ledged from the middle of the fucking arena.
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>>169697864
>>169697901

Does Warlord have a multitude of viable combos? The only one I'm aware of is the headbutt one but I haven't had the chance to look too much into it right now
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>guard breaks can now be teched by MASHING
Hahahahaha I'm fucking done.
Fuck you, Ubisoft. You have no clue what the fuck you're doing.
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>>169698008
Cool, thanks bud.
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>people getting absolutely assblasted about Conq RAWRAW
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S
warlord
conq
pk

A
warden
shugoki

B
nobushi
roachi
valk **

C
kensei

D
lawbringer
berserker
raider

** predicted after buffs, not confirmed
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>>169698050
Raider at least has a core moveset that sort of works and is able to fill a niche, plus he can reliably use the environment. Lawbringer can't even take full advantage of his own gimmick (being the "parry character").
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>>169698115
That was the case before retard. People had GB macro's long before this patch.
You really don't know the game you play do you.
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so is valkyrie still trash or is she worth checking out now
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>anon makes thread telling lewdkeeper to enjoy their ban
>probably just got banned
like pottery
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>>169697581

Because they have no clue what they're fucking doing. Jesus christ, I've done it 8 times in a row now because my muscle memory is so accustomed to just clicking up and tapping once. It would be fine if they had a confirm button - but the ONE BUTTON THAT DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING LONG-ASS HOLD CONFIRM BUTTON IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.

Jesus fucking christ.
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>Up against 3 players above 90 gear score
>I'm only rep 2 35 Gear score
>2v1 them once and defend the point with my life
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Is it just me or did they change the contrast of color palettes?
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>>169698148
>tfw raider and serker are my fav characters
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>>169698148
this is accurate assuming your order within tiers doesn't matter, except I might bring raider up to kensei tier since he can't be guardbroken off of blocked lights anymore
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The fuck is this? Go fix it
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>>169698181
i'm still here lad
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-- ATTENTION --
-- ATTENTION --
-- ATTENTION --

NOBUSHI BLEED IS STILL BUGGED
YOU CAN SEE IT IN ACTION HERE https://youtu.be/6Kqf3hOAGB8?t=110

THIS IS A DEMONSTRATION OF THE BUG
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yABVhDaaydw
NOBUSHI DOES NOT NEED TO EVEN HIT YOU TO APPLY BLEED
THERE IS NO DEFENDING AGAINST IT

-- ATTENTION --
-- ATTENTION --
-- ATTENTION --
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>>169698148
>PK
>Not S+++
Warden should also be S
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>>169696980

a-answer me!!
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>fighting PK
>he spams lights, zonecancels and GBs 24/7 which I manage to block and deal with
>gain revenge
>use it
>kill PK
>"Wow, what an ass!"

Remember to bully PK players with environmentals, revenge, and any other mean of bullying possible. They like it anyways.
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>>169698143
>Conq RAWRAW

the what?
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>>169697864
>>169697872
>>169697901
>>169697912
>>169697931

Thanks everyone for their answers, I'll play a bit of both (currently level 10 on both of them) and decide later tonight. Think I'm leaning towards Warlord for now
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cool. patch the game, launches, but doesn't let me play. well done.
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>>169698282
at least your shitposting arm has been severed

>>169698312
that's only with sharpen blade
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>>169698338
>He doesn't know about Gordon Ramsay's voice acting contract with Ubi.
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>>169698327
all warden has is his vortex
pk can get fucked by warlord/conq (see tournaments)
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>>169698367
Lmao the fuck happened there? Try restarting the game.
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>>169698379
did you even watch the videos? also, even if it was its still a bug. who gives a fuck if the blade is sharpened if it doesnt touch you. why should it cause bleed.
you fucking nobushi main
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>>169698148
Raider is a tier below anyone else. LB can do pretty much everything Raider can better
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>>169698312
>>169698379
woah actually I stand corrected, holy shit
I thought you were just talking about bleeding through guard
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>>169698148
This is pretty accurate, especially for the high tiers.
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>>169698476
Except for cancel into light, which is actually useful against slow blockers
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>>169698278
its day 1 of round 2 calm down
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Welp time to drop this game till they buff law and raider instead of working on top tiers like fucking pk. Complete retards working on the game.
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>>169698581
ok
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I've been using two upper ones of the removable backpaddles in For Honor. First time I've used them in a video game since they felt kinda useless. Mapped left to A (dodge) and right to X(GB). Gotta say, that it improved reaction time on a gamepad significantly.

Too bad its controller software as well as the Ubisoft's gamepad controls are shit, so I can't remap the actual A or X buttons to something else now that I'm using them less.
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>>169698338
conq's emote spam
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>>169698428
>pk can get fucked by warlord/conq (see tournaments)

But the PKs were reigning supreme.
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>>169698581
>Purposely play the worst classes in the game
>Get mad when they don't buff them first patch

Never let anyone tell you you aren't a fucking retard
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>>169698618
Download xbox accessories from the Windows store. Should let you map everything.
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>>169698618
Are you on PC? You can use Steam Big Picture to remap, even if you didn't buy For Honor via Steam.

If you're on the Bone you have only yourself to blame.
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>>169698332
PK here, can confirm. Ledge me daddy
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Did they work on the Conq flail's idle animation? It often bugged out for me but not anymore
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>patch didn't fix this

great, any aliens here?
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>>169698367
same thing happen to me.. you downloaded 2gb instead of 4gb
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daily reminder that damascus is the only acceptable rep 3 blade
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>>169698671
I disagree with the other anon about conq hard countering pk, but the last match of the tourney was litteraly a guy just allblocking every attack then responding with an R2 since PK has no unblockables aside from a techable guardbreak
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>>169698839
>Literally the only blade noticeably shorter than standard length

Enjoy your manlet sword.
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>>169697550
>teching an unblockable shove
I don't follow. It's not a GB and it's not stanced so you can't parry it. It's technically dodgeable but it goes off pretty fast. What do you mean, you can tech it?
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>>169698713
he has every right to be unhappy that a full price game isn't being competently balanced.

a class that was already powerful is being made OP while only one of several under-performing characters is getting changes
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>>169698886
If you think LB's shove is fast you should see warlord's headbutt. It's a lucky occasion where I can react to that shit.
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>>169697368
>tfw no reverse harem jutsu cast on you
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>>169698739
It lets you map only things to a different button at least the last time I checked. Only another generic gamepad button. Keybinds or such are not allowed.

>>169698753
Yeah I'm on the PC. I know that's a possibility at least.
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WE
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>>169698148
>Conq makes an incredible jump from B tier to S tier
Shield bash whiners I swear
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>>169698581
>working on top tiers like fucking pk
To be fair, Peacekeeper's kidney stab bleed bug was a necessary fix. One of her moves wasn't working correctly and actively cutting its output by more than half. I can live with that bugfix. I think it's that extra quality-of-life buff she got (extended range so she can now confirm a light off a parry) that just threw people over the top and got them exceptionally mad at her.
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>>169699021
It's not just shield bash, Anon. Conq is a secret tech gold mine.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1honJ-Q34RgixdUdjufWHR9h5ivr2L741iksfipsvDyA/edit#
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>>169699012
Why do Shugoki get the cool masks and Kensei just gets some gimp masks
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>>169698827
Win 10 brawls against AI, not joking
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>>169698618
How good is the XB1 Elite controller compared to the X360 controller, anyway?
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anyone with a good afk-farming script?
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>PK GB into triple stab does 1 1/2 bars now
>PK GB into double stab wall toss jumping heavy-light combo does 2 bars now
Personally would have liked if it was 2 bars triple stab and 3 bars wall combo but im a PK shitter.

Also for my custom controls uPlay friends back up your ini before you update. It overwrote mine and now i have to remember how to do my buttons again.
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What should I spec my blade into?
>Atk
>Def
>Stam
They're all important.
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>>169697410
because up until recently there was no way to follow it with damage, and only just a few days ago was it found out that you can unlock then light after a shove

even if his blocks are rewarding though, he has slow block, which means blocking a PK requires getting a read for a simple R1, whereas warlord can just block on all three sides then R2

warlord can also completely drain a vanguard's stamina when he parrys a heavy, and in the process get an R1 and R2, whereas lawman doesn't get anything extra compared to any other character unless he parrys a light

>>169698886
I think he means the grab that people usually throw out after shoving
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>>169698312
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yABVhDaaydw
>B-b-b-but bleed is balanced!!
Fuck all of you.
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>>169699012
WE WUZ JAPANESE SPIRIT DEMONS N SHIET
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>>169699012
ARE NUMBER ONE
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>>169699391
For what it's worth, only 2 of the 12 heroes can naturally and reliably apply bleed (Valkyrie can bleed too, but she requires a not-deflect to do it).
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Maybe I'm lucky but I don't notice an absurd amount of PKs and Orochi in any mode
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>>169699348
>shove to grab
But I'm not even rep2 and I know that doesn't work. You shove into a light to poke, force a block and drain their stamina. Then when they're out you start throwing them around. Knock 'em down, overhead into the stun, Long Arm into another knockdown, free side heavy, mix up chain.
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>>169699490
>comes in 3rd place on round 1
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>>169698839
>not our lord and saviour Garian
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>>169699084
>Gimp masks
First of all, fuck you.
Second of all, Shugoki's mask is just an oni mask, while Kensei's mask is a ceremonial faceguard.
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>>169699334
It is alright the way it is now considering the super quick zonecancel and quick stab combos. PKs are one of my favourite things to duel as a Warden, right next to Kensei and other Wardens. A lop of pressure and anticipation for that perfect parry that opens things up.
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I really wish they'd let you reroll 1-2 quests per thing, I want to wash my hands of skirmish forever now that it's not intruding on elimination matchmaking anymore.
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So, is ganking on Elimination allowed?
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>Be Raider
>Do duel for mission
>Get matched up against a rep 3 french orochi
>"Good luck have fun"
>Flat me out on 3-0 because I fucked up
>Meet him again in another match
>"Good luck have fun!"
>2-0 his ass with feint and DOUWAT'EL!
>He start to sperg out saying I play like a bitch and that he can do it too
>Just ledge his ass this time
>Bursts into baguettes in chat

The thing is, I'm actually a bitch because I hate making people mad in games.
Duel is not for me.
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is valkutie worth playing now
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>>169699619
>haha jokes on you we got an extra salvage crate from daddy
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>>169699490
Did that artist ever do any more? I know she did all four Samurai classes, plus the Warden and Lawbringer.
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>>169699159
It's a bit heavier, has magnetically swappable hats and dpad and allows you to lock the LT/RT halfway instead of needing to do the full motion. In addition it has two swappable button configuration modes. Other than those it's pretty much a nice quality standard XB1 controller.
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>>169699550
Its techable but safe against most characters, so people throw it out a fair bit
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>>169699780
I've not yet heard any first impressions on post-buff Valk, so I can't say.

>>169699784
The faction war still matters. It's not just bonus crates at the end of the round, but it's keeping track of the round winners. Whoever wins the most rounds wins the season and gets exclusive rewards.
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repostan question from old thread

So what are all of lawbringers actual hitconfirms again (aside from wall stuff)? Fill me in if I'm missing something or wrong:

1) guardbreak into side heavy
2) heavy parry into (1) (or a light?)
3) light parry into ad mortem or a running attack
4) shove then unlock into light
5) block into (4)
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>wow PK is OP only shitters play her
>wow Warden is OP only shitters play him
>wow Conq is OP only shitters play him
>wow Warlord is OP only shitters play him
>wow Shugoki is ezmode only shitters play him
>wow Noobushi is ezmode only shitters play her
>wow Orochi is for edgy teenagers only faggots play him
>wow berserker's infinite chain is ezmode for spammers
>wow Valk is already OP why is she getting buffed
Is this general just full of Kensei, Raider and Lawbringer "I blame my loss on OP characters" shitters?
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>>169699780
>>169698175
this
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Why did they make countering guard breaks even easier with this patch? At this point, guard breaks are almost completely worthless.
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>>169699971
>The faction war still matters

It never mattered
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>>169700001
So close
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>>169699941
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>>169699984
Kensei's actually pretty good at dealing with nobushis. Not too bad against wardens either if you block the right way.
The only two classes he really seems to struggle against are warlord and conq.
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>they fucked Berserker over even more by introducing a bug against Valkyrie

It sure is fun that you can't deflect-parry Valk's dashing overhead because it doesn't actually put them in the true guard-break stage where you can toss them around if need be, you just get left standing there. Ubisoft in charge of testing shit as usual.

oh boy, this is gonna be a lot of fun
why did i pick this fucking character
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>>169700194
Yeah, it's become a more prominent problem after the patch. More and more people seem to be getting it with less time played.
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>>169699984
Kensei main here. I don't complain about my losses much because I know those games are on me. Kensei can be strong if you apply yourself. I believe Kensei doesn't have any strictly bad matchup; he stands a chance against everyone.

>>169700049
People really wanted the open beta guard break back, so they got it back. Plus, be honest: would you trust tightly-timed guard breaks with this sort of connectivity?
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>>169699780
she already was ok, now is a bit more ok than before
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>>169699972
correct
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Actual tier list
PK: PK
S: Warden
A: Warlord, Shoguki, Orochi
B: Nobushi, Conqueror
C: Kensei, Lawbringer, Valkyrie
D: Raider, Berserker
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>>169699984
yes
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gonna post this til im not proud any more
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>>169700218
Man, what the actual fuck? They fix the side dodge light attack being blocked and leading to a free gb but introduce some bullshit like this? Come the fuck on. Does it only happen with Valks though?
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>>169700247
fuck wrong one
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>>169699776
The french are a cancer upon online gaming, though not as much as brazilians, russians or filipinos. Sadly, I'm forced to play with them.
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>tried elimination out for the first time yesterday
>entire team drops out in the queue leaving me only with bots
>on top of that I'm a lawbringer
>as expected the bots get fucking wiped within minutes leaving only me vs all 4 of them, expecting to get ganked
>surprisingly they take me on one at a time, probably out of pity
>manage to take down three of them without healing
>died to the last hero who was a valkyrie
God damn this game has some cool moments sometimes.
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>>169700376

I don't know, I haven't played anything after that webm. Birthday dinner. I'll report back when I get back and play some more.
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>>169696543
A stealth mission where you can't actually break stealth since the whole army is partying.

This gives you unlimited time to focus on targets and learn how to fight different heros as keeper (what I think the entire solo game should be about). Add onto that the fact that Mercy trashes said army on her own showing how the heros you play as are worth entire squads makes this my favorite mission in the whole game.
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if I use KB+M, approximatley how cucked will I get?
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>all the people who joined the vikings because they won the first round

Absolute bullshit
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>>169700350
>lawbringer in c when he has less options then raider
???????????????????????????????????????
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>>169699776
For honor is the new xbox live/dota allstars of online games right now, a complete salt mine.
People are going to get mad at you even if you kill them with nothing but Kensei zone attacks.
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>>169700194
Been crying over here and game is legit unplayable. Tried everything, malware bytes, defrag, updating everything, reinstalling game, disabling anti-virus.

The patch fucked my game up.
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>>169700071
It always will and you're a no-fun fuddy duddy faggot if you think otherwise.
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>>169700293
>Plus, be honest: would you trust tightly-timed guard breaks with this sort of connectivity?
I'd certainly prefer them over counter guard breaks being so easy that the guard break mechanic might as well not exist.

Balancing a game around online connections is fucking stupid.
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>>169700536
>tripfag

you need to leave
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>>169700542
>PK shitter, roaches and Wardens with a Viking emblem

Get the fuck out of my faction, cheese dicks.
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>>169700573
Lawbringer has decent lockdown, although this patch probably killed it. Raider's main gimmick is nullified by any idiot who can parry which is a lot easier than teching was.
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>>169700531
That'd be cool but out of place.
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>>169700350
>conq below orochi
????????????????????????????????
i feel like you're just a shitter.
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>>169700269
Thing is, my game starts eating up ram after being opened for 30 seconds in the menu.
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>>169700531
>learning PK
more like PKys
That stands for Please Kill You're Self
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>>169700293
>he stands a chance against everyone.
You clearly haven't fought a good warlord or conq then. I can fight toe-to-toe with wardens but I can't for the life of me fight either of those two if they know how to tech.
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>>169700716
>You're
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>>169700643
Leave me alone, I'm from another board, another general.
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>>169700636
The trick, like most things in fighting games, is to catch them off-guard. You can't tech what you can't see coming.
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>>169700536
>tripcuck redditor
Into the filter you go
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>>169700734
Same here. I can barely even block Conq's attacks for some reason. They just intimidate me more than any other hero.
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Am I the only one who finds all that headgear on top of your helmet really gay?
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>>169700536
KB is equal to a remapped controller and objectively superior if you play nobushi
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>>169700801
PDNSTYN
Please Do Not Show That Your New
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>be Knight
>main Conq since forever since Warden felt too generic, PK was too edgy, and I don't like to play top tiers
>Conq is suddenly considered top tier
Guess I'm changing factions
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>>169700734
>>169700874

fucking conq shits man

i can't get shit on them at all as lb. i can occasionally get a long arm to light poke off before they turtle again. ree
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Post em

White means "I dont know"
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I can't even tell how often I accidentally quitted to desktop
Can't it at least confirm twice or something
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Rate, hate, masturbate.
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>>169700492
To valhal you go my man
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>>169700623
There is no solution for it then, nice we can wait for a hotfix i guess.
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>>169701030

>lb is a bad matchup vs literally everyone

o-one day they'll buff him, and i'll show you all.
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>>169700813
This is not your safe space :^)
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>>169701030
What makes PK weak against warlord but not against conq?
I'm genuinely curious. I thought they both used the allblock to counter her.
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>>169699780
Shit hardly changed. Her lights and combos are still slow as fuck, she got no range, the sweep does no damage and knocks them back too far for a proper punish and she hits like a wet noodle. Yes, shes got better recovery but that's it.
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>>169698148
>people are starting to awaken to the conq master race
fuck, my special hipster class
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>>169701030
LB main detected
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>>169701217
I dont think conq is bad but he doesnt have a hitconfirm off of allblock like lord
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>>169700874
They shouldn't, they can't feint in the slightest and their attacks beg for parries. Just keep an eye out for the unblockable and punish accordingly
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>>169700995
I'm switching to Vikings after the season whenever the fuck that is (does anybody know when the fuck that is)
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>>169701030
You might as well paint that whole chart white because clearly you have no clue.
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>>169701295

he's really not wrong though. i mean i guess lb's are pretty decent against roaches.
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>>169701162
well in exchange they rock dominion cause they just spend their time fishing for opportunities to throw people off ledges or into hazards.

there's nothing i hate more than lawbringers in dominion.
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I main Valkyrie but want to try another hybrid so which is more fun weeb waifu or LAW man?
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>>169701021
The problem is the best option right now against defensive play is to bait out a parry with feinting.
The flaw of that aside, no conqueror in his damn mind is ever going to fall for a feint when he can just block it.

>>169701030
I don't agree with your Kensei matchups.
From experience he can punish nobushi hard and shugoki lights are parryable, which for Kensei means ez win.
He can also toe-to-toe with warden too if you play patient.
Warlord and conq are correct tho, and I don't know about valkyrie since I haven't fought her post buff.
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>>169701290
Trying to do AI executions in 4v4 as conq is suffering. Fucking PKs killsteal you each time.
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So is there undiscovered gear for above Rep 10 and stuff?
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Is the patch out on consoles yet?
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>>169701432
>tries to censor name
nice try Pitix
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>>169699647
The face guards are the coolest part about kensei imho
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>>169701312
I guess that's the issue for me, I can't reliably parry Conqs and, so far, I've always made the mistake of going for a heavy if I do manage a parry. They always manage to block those in time. Chipping away at them seems to be the only thing that works.
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>>169701432
Misery
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>>169700883
Depend which, Kensei got some really nice one, but I really hate those for the Warden
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>>169700734
I can see why. A large chunk of Kensei's overall gameplan revolves around his chains, and shieldbearers stop chains dead with their superior block against lights. His chain attacks are good when they can get through, and he has exceptional range, but he doesn't have any significant standalone attacks that let him do things like get around shields.
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>>169701406

>roach or PK shitter detected

i love spearing your assholes when you get down to 25% and think you can run from me.
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>>169701484
Thanks man
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>>169701451
no the highest rank of shit is upgraded purple gear, in terms of visuals maybe? but i highly doubt it
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>>169701432
PK shitting on everything you're trying to enjoy.
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>>169701446

I went through that exact thing just now
>My heavy is not enough to kill an enemy in critical state
>One more hit to go
>Bot rushes in and murders him
Oh well I could take my time because I had to do 3 matches anyway for another order
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>>169701470
No
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>>169701317
Seasons last 10 weeks (5 two-week rounds). You'll have to wait two months to change factions during the between-season downtime if you don't want to forefit your end-of-season rewards.
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>>169701492
>Those masks.
I suppose we should be grateful we only get some weird red faces then.

>>169701524
Kensei is also reliant on parrying when he can't get in chains, and no decent conq is ever going to get parried except when they're already wailing on you.
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I still dont have a main despite putting 50 hours in the game already, so i need some help to decide

i mostly played conqueror (the most), berserker, kensei and shugoki (dont like him)

Who of them all has the most depth and highest skill ceiling? I mostly want a character thats good in duels but not thrash in other modes either
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>>169701443
No the best way to stop blocking is Kara cancel and the best way to stop parrying is feints
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>>169701660
Thought as much, just didn't know the timeframe. Anyway thanks.
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>>169701551
>when you get down to 25%

implying i'd ever get down that far vs a LB pleb
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>>169701030
>No blue value for relatively even matchups
Information like what you're providing isn't fully accurate.
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>>169701551
warden main.
have fun throwing people off cliffs, that's cool.
but don't cry if you have disadvantages in other aspects of the game. you can't rock everything.
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>>169701524
Blocked lights stop chains on pretty much everyone I believe. blocked heavies on the other hand can only stop chains if your opponent has superior block.
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>>169698148
how the fuck is conq so high
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>>169701716
....so feinting.
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>>169701470
No. PC got the patch first; XB1 and PS4 have to wait for certification before they get it.
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>>169701658
how is it possible that ippiki is a meme in 3 whole generals
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>>169701432
Memory Leaks :)
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>>169701830
No Kara canceling is different from feinting
Kara canceling is when you literally cancel one attack with another while with feinting you feint and then you do another move. You can do both in for honor.
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>>169701887
Well this fuck managed to become the meme.
DSP for honor playthrough when.
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>>169701887
Lawbringers are good at making shitty players rage
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>>169698278
Console kiddies are all weebs and kangs, literally nothing can be done.
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>suddenly fps drops after update
Thanks Ubi
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>>169701886
>xb1 and PS4 have to wait for certification before they get it
What does this even mean? Does it mean it's coming soon or in months?
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>>169701818
Because shitters can't manage to dodge to the side away from shield bash so they cry nerf. Conq is nowhere near as good as Warlord.
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>>169701973
>Cancel one attack with another.
Why isn't it called animation cancel then? I'm confused.
Kensei doesn't have any cancels he can do out of neutral though, to the best of my knowledge.
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>>169701496
Just gotta learn their attacks, mang
Chipping away at a Conq isn't very effective and they will outlast you by a good mile if they're laying on guaranteed lights off their bashes
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>>169702117
i am pretty sure the only legit cancels he can do (outside of feinting) is with his overhead
it's intended to be a cancel into the side heavy combo finisher, but you can cancel it into whatever the fuck you want bar a standard overhead light/heavy
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>>169702009
He already did one, he can't block at all and always tries to parry.
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>>169702117
Most casuals think they are a glitch and they are not on the move list you'll have to try and find some with your character. There's a big difference tho. It's the same thing as the 'indicator bug' you've been hearing about
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>>169702092
Any downloadable patch that is developed for a console must go through independent certification by Sony and/or Microsoft to ensure it won't break the console or anything malicious. Typically, this tacks on not more than a week or so of processing time. Many devs opt to hold onto PC patches, even if they're ready to go, so they can release simultaneously with the console patches once they pass cert.
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im not quite on board with the whole LB loses every 1v1 match ever shit. It feels like this game is pretty matchup based, and the guys who do legitimately blow LB up seem to be the shieldbearers (too much is on the LB to dodge and punish or just read the shit out of them), against literally every assassin I have no fear at all.

Nobushi, which a lot of people have stated is a bad matchup feels like the best one, since she is so easily bullied by block > shove, PK can admittedly be tough provided shes feinting her ass off and whiffing lights, but again another very easy to bully character if they ever make contact. Orochis tend to leave after I beat them a single round but my winrate against them is really consistent.

Of everyone, Shugoki gives me by far the most trouble due to how his super armor works (you have to trade a hit to get rid of armor almost every time), though I haven't had a chance to fight many strong Shugokis.

But hey that's my 2 cents, and I know posting my winrate isn't going to convince anyone (lord knows I spent a lot of that just wailing on scrubs).
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Man, Conq players are either the most boring defensive cunts or just people that wanna have fun
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>>169702305
I see so you think it'll be a week before consoles get patch?
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So is the patch live?
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I'm guessing domino vs ai is the best way to get good xp
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>>169701696
help
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>>169702330
PK and Shugoki seem to be the bane of my existence as Law
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>almost rep 7 lawman
>still no darosh helmet

kill me
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>>169702330
>>169702524
actually once i realised that just doing a single shove removes his hyperarmor shugoki became pretty trivial
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>>169702494
Kensei and berserker have the most depth but you might not be as successful with them for a while in comparison to conq
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>>169702415
Hard to say.
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>fight against Orochi bot called FarFromDry
Even the bots are sluts
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>>169697583
That's a good fuckin wowg meme right there
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>Valkyrie main before buff
>Now everything I'm doing is a tripping slaughterfest
I'm fucking loving this.
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>>169702618
the issue is after a shove removes the super armor its on you to be aggressive to ensure he doesnt get it back, which IMO is a bad situation to be in, he doesnt have anything quick to bog a Shugoki down, and almost all trades will be in Shugokis favor regardless.

So it feels pretty hard, it's not unwinnable but it's definitely much harder than Nobushi.
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Would you turn off combat UI in a ranked mode?

I feel like it wouldn't matter that much at higher levels but the huge flashing indicators are distracting.
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>top light 18
>side light 15
>dodge light 18
>side heavy 25
>top heavy 35
>jump thrust 25 and counts as a heavy for execution
>l+l+l combo 18, 25, 30
>l+l+h 18, 25, 35
>cut recovery time on everything by 30%
>increase stamina pool by 30%
>double the window on bleed stabs
>leg sweep does 15 dmg
>leg sweep no longer knocks target back
>knocked down targets take 20% more damage
>range on lights increased to 3m
>range on heavies increased to 4m
>jump-thrust range increased to 6m
That's what i would've done to fix the Valk. Not this chicken shit -100ms here and 5 points of damage there. Ubisoft are literally taking the smallest steps possible trying to fix the character and it didn't change fuck all.
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>>169701696
>>169702494

Of your listed characters, Conqueror is the best. Especially now that they patched the light attack GB shit.
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>>169702778
No, you can turn it off yourself if you want
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>>169702758
Played her a few times and haven't been following, can her sweep still be avoided? My bread and butter combo has been GB, heavy overhead, GB again, sweep, heavy overhead again.

I honestly don't even know how to play her outside of poking without the GBs, and given they're easy as hell to tech now I'm clueless.
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>>169702767
yeah everything youre saying is completely right but it still makes a fuckin HUGE difference to thinking you have to actually land a hit
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>Be conq
>Throw bot against a wall and do shieldbash thing
>Dodges
Yeah no.
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>>169702831
>That's what i would've done to fix the Valk
>literally make her the strongest character in the game over one patch

yeah, it's a good thing you're not actually in charge of this
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>versing conqueror 2:2
>the narrow weeb stage comes up
>he tries to GB me 4 times, I tech him 4 times
>I GB him once and throw him off stage
>chat: wow rly dude?
>chat: no honor
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>>169699343
Attack and stamina.
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>>169702831
Apparently Valk was a grade A shit wrecker who made Peacekeeper looks like a Lawbringer who just bought the game before she was nerfed, so maybe baby steps are best.
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>>169703004
She's still got the 120hp which is one h+h combo from the zerker and she's in crit health range.
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I'm willing to draw some funny for honor memes, but have no ideas. Post requests, i will try to deliver.
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Please do not play Kensei.
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>main conq
>want to try warden
>only get matched against prestige 2+ now
>never gonna git gud w/ warden now
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>>169703154
Post PK getting bullied and loving it
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>>169703196
>git gud
>with wardne

Literally the most braindead class in the game. You do not need to put any effort into it.
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>play dominion
>have to run around chasing people after they get hit once
gg
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>>169701076
>chainmail shirt
I like.

>one of those circlet helmets
Don't like.

>actual rawhide bracelets
I like

>dirty bone axe handles with golden filigree axe heads
Don't like.
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>>169703109
All the assassins (and assassin hybrids) have 120hp. Which isn't that much lower than other characters.

>>169703102
Nah, she was a grade A shit wrecker because people in tech test 2 were generally shit players. Basically no one ever dodged the leg sweep and bitched about it. Still got a bunch of footage from playing valk in tech test 2, she was mostly fine back then.
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>>169703154
Orochi dashing behind Warlord whispering "psst, nothing personnel kid", behind Orochi is PK doing the same thing.
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>>169703036
it's a meme to act like you didn't deserve it

it gets people buttmad even from winning

a master tactic
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>>169703180
Nice ornament, did you mom make that for you lmao
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>>169702330
Just attempt a GB against shugoki. It shreds the hyper armor even if they tech it.
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>Game is half dead already

Is it gonna be okay g-guys?
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>>169703180
Why not? :(
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>>169702330
Pretty much this. I main lawman and shugoki gives me more trouble than anything else, everyone else is a bullyfest.

Until his parry is buffed he's not a parry class, but with the shove he doesn't need to be.
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>>169702116
>Conq is nowhere near as good as Warlord.
>he doesn't know about the special untechable gb abuse
conq is 95% as good as a warlord
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Is it just me or it's very hard to kara cancel a top light into zone on warden (compared to left side into zone)? I don't play warden, I'm just trying out characters because I'm bored with my main.
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How the fuck do you fight competent warlords?

The headbutt costing no stamina & being nonpunishable even if you manage to dodge it is fucking dumb.
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>>169703442
4gb patch dropped a few hours ago, plenty of people have shit internet and are still downloading it
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>>169702778
I think the game would be more fun if the indicator was removed for everyone, but they'd have to change the attack animations on some heroes, like valkyrie or orochi, since it's not really clear which direction they attack from, especially with light attacks.
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Is this game dying?

It's got mixed reviews on steam and fell from 60k during the beta to about 20-24k players

alot of the playerbase complaining that they can't play the game due to frequent disconnects and p2p.
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>>169703520
I would agree, however it'll be about five minutes before cheats add those back in.
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>>169702778
No, not unless they change attack animations for the Orochi. Half his shit consists of diagonal swings that you can't tell if they're coming from top or side.
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>>169703496
>4gb patch dropped a few hours ago

That's weird, muh steam only downloaded 2 or so gigs
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>>169703520
I'd be even more of a shitter, good God
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>>169703481
just say feint you god damned negro, this isn't sf4
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>>169703352
Assassin-tier HP and damage barely above a Conquerors with CC that a blind child could step out of and the speed and range of snail. They didn't nerf her, they raped her with a spiked monster cock.
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>>169703440
Yea I'm well aware of that, it's just the issue of us both standing there after and me feinting my ass off to get him to do something then he just regenerates super armor by doing nothing.

It feels like his playstyle is contrary to LB and that's what makes the matchup difficult, which IMO is a good thing.
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>Shamelessly joining Elimination with Rep0 and level 1 gear
>Surrounded by rep3 and above
Blame Ubisoft my dudes
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>>169703676
except you cant feint lights and kara cancel is literally a 1:1 comparison
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>>169696980
Not much you can do against a turtling conq but if you're ever against one that's spamming shield bash you can interrupt it with block>shove which I usually combo into long arm because they're probably out of stam at that point.
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Do different characters have different guard breaking speeds because i swear i'm starting my animation faster than them
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>>169699079
IDK if i missed something, but to simplify it as fuck, you just (superior) block/parry (hold instead of click to not mess up) guard break for a guaranted heavy into bash into a light or a infinite heavy ->shield bash combo if they hit a wall?
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>>169702778
fuck no, it would be just another thing that even further buffs characters like Peacekeeper.
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>>169703676
You dum dum, i'm not talking about feinting.
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>>169703608
For the people visiting these threads the problems lie in the blatant problems with character balance, I think.
I for one wouldn't recommend FH to any newcomers as it is.
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>>169700216
>The only two classes he really seems to struggle against are warlord and conq.
this is because his post GB game is pretty shit

the only way he could EVER finish up the round is if there is a wall near by to do enough damage to close out the round
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>>169700813
Then take the trip off
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>>169703004
They did make her the strongest character in the game
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>>169703817
Not the first anon but 'Kara cancel' is confusing as fuck to hear and is way harder to say than 'feint'.

That's what it is, anyway. You're winding up for a BIG, HEAVY, MASSIVE attack and then not really, boop! It's a feint. Call it what it is.
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>>169696636
Honestly, you're better off waiting for P4 or P5 to get more purple gear per box.
Don't bother scavenging until P3— _minimum_.
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>>169703979
No we're talking about pressing light then heavy to do a zone instead of pressing both at the same time. There's no big heavy, we're talking lights. That's a kara cancel.
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>>169703979
No, you're confusing things further because then people will read that shit and be like BUT I THAUGHT U CANT FEINT LIGHTS then you gotta explain; SHIET NIGGA ITS NOT A REAL FEINT JUST A CANCELLED LIGHT INTO A ZONE ATTACK, followed by WELL Y U CALL IT A FEINT THEN

just use the fucking term kara everyone knows it, it dates back decades before fucking SF4 and it's generally common knowledge and even if it's not it's very easily explained regardless
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This felt so damn good, i fucking hate pk's.
She just spammed light at me in the last 3 rounds, and because i'm bad she just chain cc'd me to death.

I know i'm shit ;^)
On youtube because the webm would be fucking huge.
https://youtu.be/3OSpXLS6-7k
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>>169702778
The game is designed to have the "Art of Battle" UI in place. Harada (Tekken producer) even mentions it in his interview with Jason how it's so important to be able to have those indicators and see what's coming so you don't have to do shit like learn specific animations and whatnot. Plus, everyone who played through the campaign on realistic mode will tell you to fuck off with that. Sure, you can read most animations and tell what's coming, but some animations are ambiguous and can mess you up, the most egregious offender being the Orochi. That's to say nothing of guard breaks.
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>>169698245
I wanted to play Lawbringer throughout the beta.
Now I feel your pain.
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>>169703979
it's not a feint tho

ESPECIALLY when feinting has a dedicated button already and is performed in a completely different way and doesn't fuck with the indicator in the same way and is completely different

what i'm saying is that yor dum
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>>169704148
>Doing better than you
>Fucking runs and RQs
The fuck
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>>169697798
They're both braindead easy characters. If you want a top-tier character that has at least some semblance of a learning curve try Nobushi.

t. Warden main
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I need a break from Ken sama

1-3 Valkyrie
4-6 Raider
7-9 Lawbringer
0 Shugoki
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so since LB will probably never be good

who should I start to main, warden or conq.
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>>169704148
He quit because you BLOCKED? What a bitch.
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>start doing well with conq
>people leaving left and right
>mfw
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>>169698148
Move PK to B, A, or B+; switch warden to S.
Orochi might be a B, and Valkyrie's quite likely to be at least an A now.
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>>169704148
>he beat you before
>you're on low compared to her full
>didn't run off to get buffs
>salt

have you considered he just had to leave to game?
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>>169703608
I'm barely playing it anymore, mostly just chilling in AI dominion and doing daily orders. Every duel/fight is boiling down to parry/dodge turtling and each class spamming their 1 usable combo respectively. And yeah, horrible p2p matchmaking only adds to frustration. Winning a match? Too bad that guy from the losing team decided to rage quit and guess what? He was also a host! No xp for you, no rewards for you and for the added bonus game can freeze in host migration process so get ready to alt f4 that bitch.
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>>169704291
You gonna trip them the fuck out, anon
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>>169704316
PKIDF leave.
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>>169704346
It's probably more likely he had to leave, but imma still feel good that it might have been a ragequit.
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>>169704316
>Move PK to B, A, or B+
no
>switch warden to S.
no
>Orochi might be a B
i agree, that's why he's a B
>Valkyrie's quite likely to be at least an A now.
i agree so far, i'll update the list in a few days when i have a better feel
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>>169704291
Not 7-9
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>>169698148
Warden is by a huge margin the best character and he will be even after buffs. He belongs in nothing lower than the highest tier and even that might not be high enough.
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does feinting end zerker's infinite-chain status?
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>>169704147
>>169704125
Where the fuck does Kara cancel come from anyway
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>>169704316
PK please go and stay go.
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>>169702831
You weren't here during the tech test, when Valkyrie was legit god tier and blew out everyone with her massive toolkit and bonkers damage, to the point where they had to nerf her on day one of the test before ultimately removing her and the devs formally apologizing for her. She came back in live, but it's clear she was overnerfed, so now she's got a few buffs to make her competitive but not as strong as she was in the tech test.
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>>169704437
why has a warden not reached even the quarter finals of any tournament
the only thing he has going for him is his vortex, which is resettable

i can personally parry his top light and zone attacks and don't even consider myself to be good, that's the only opener he has apart from shoulder bash, which is easily avoided by any mid-tier player
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>>169704473
japanese for empty or some shit like that

since you don't hit them with what you cancel from
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>>169696543
>Mercy edition

Impressive!
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>>169704519
I wasn't what?
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>>169698848
>allblocking every attack then responding with an R2 since PK has no unblockables aside from a techable guardbreak.

Why didn't the PK just Heavy feint into guard break then?
Or are feints techable during all block as well?
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>>169703831
I don't know the exact differences, but Zerker by far GBs the quickest.
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>>169703154
Do we seriously not have a Costanza meme yet?
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>>169704473
It comes from fighting games, a lot of people were introduced to it in 3s as a lot of shit needed it (kara throws being a prime example), though they have existed in games much prior (notably SNK properties are programmed to have them in intentionally).

It is a japanese word for "empty", as in you cancel the move before its "active" frames, which is the common conception of cancelling from normal moves.

hopefully that is as concise an answer I can give you without confusing things further
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>>169698753
Question: Can I map zone attack to a single fucking button? Seems ridiculous that chat commands/emotes have their own buttons, but I have to hit LB+LT maybe 3-4 times on occasion to do a fucking zone.
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So they did nothing to lawbringer show some love Ubi
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>>169702016
>what is a guard break cancel
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>>169704437
t. PKs and warlords
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>>169702330
I'm with you, pal, LB feels fine, though maybe it's just my matchmaking giving good fights. If these nerds just dodge my UBs I'd be proper fucked
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>>169704778
>shitty players
What's the problem here.
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So there's winged 2 ornament for warden , but I can't find winged 1
do you know where it is ?
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>>169704546
>why has a warden not reached even the quarter finals of any tournament
Because everyone plays Warden, which means everyone knows how to fight Warden. When you're at the top of the mountain and everyone is playing as you, people start figuring out how to deal with you.
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>>169703636
Holy shit, this. Fighting them on realistic was a goddamn nightmare since they're all over the place with their swings.
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>>169704917
>warden is the best because everyone knows how to beat him
alright
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Is this fucking "Quit to desktop" option after a match new or some shit? It happened 3 times now that muscle memory made me quit the game.
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>>169705087
Yup, and it's wrecking my shit too.
IT TAKES TOO FUCKING LONG TO BOOT
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Reminder that Daubeny is NOT a coward .
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So should I open crates at rep 3
or would I get better loot farther down the line?
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>>169701076
>wearing stockins and suspender belt to battle

I though this game wont go for unrealistic sexy armors...
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>>169696543
>Valk now has a combo off of a parry that deals 55 damage

Almost half the health of an enemy gone in one parry. You can do jackshit about it. Looks pretty badass.
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>>169705173
i think around rep 3 you start getting purples which are functionally the best items in the game, so yea feel free to do it, you can just keep playing and farm purples (is what i did) free of charge if you would like to save them for another character
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>side-dodge light is supposed to hit from the opposite side to the way you dodge as Nobushi
>it isn't currently
is this a bug, something to do with lag, or what?
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>>169705268

When will Valks stop being stupid though? They all spam their spin2win during ganking in skirmish and don't realize their teammates fall over too
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>>169704546
Against a >>good<< Warden you have to block left by default because you can't reaction-block his zone, then you have to be able to switch to top block at a moment's notice to catch his top lights.

You can't attack top because of crushing counterstrike and you can't switch your guard right for more than a few seconds because you'll eat a zone especially if your character has slow stance change. You also can't get hit by a light ever because it combos into a shoulder bash and if you try to dodge a shoulder bash then a good Warden will see it and react to it by canceling into a guard break which you can't tech because you just got out of a dodge animation. If you choose not to dodge it then you get hit by it and that combos into another light.

No other character covers so many options while having so many good options of his own. Hell, no other character even comes close. If you post a webm or a gif of you parrying his zone on reaction I will happily eat my words.

Also

>tournament results matter in a game that hasn't even been out for a month

Lmao

>>169704801
t. Warden main since the beta
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>>169705158
I'll be honest the singleplayer campaign was great if only for the viking chapter and all the memes it brought.
Fuck the actual story part though.
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>>169705372
Valks are sheep! SHEEEEP!

They will always be stupid.
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>>169705372
I do it on purpose
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Quick, Four Shogukis have encircled you in a compass and are alternating between unblockables. Survive.
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>>169696543
>CLASS GUIDES IN OP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr
Wow I didn't know PK could "softfeignt" from a heavy into a GB. That shit is going to be funny as fuck
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>>169705409
i wish there was more stuff like the horse chase

also i thought there was 10 missions to each faction, so when i saw there was only 6 i assumed the last 4 for each would be you as apollyon just going in and wrecking all these punk asses

i was disappointed

also i really did enjoy apollyon as a character, she was cool as fuck
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What to do? Happened in-between match lobby, won't go away.
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>>169705540
Alt+F4 :^)
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>>169705409
The story had that weird ubisoft flare for semi-legit story with comedy thrown in to offset it, same kind of writing as the later AC games
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>>169704907
Heeeeeeeeeeey niggers
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>>169705374
>if you try to dodge a shoulder bash then a good Warden will see it and react to it by canceling into a guard break
you can't react to dodges on the shoulder, you either GB cancel immediately to catch the dodge, or the shoulder releases and misses them

it's a 1/3 chance to hit, 1/4 vs side dash attack characters
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>>169705568
alt + f4
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>>169705540
that's my fetish
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>>169705350
I think the side dodge heavy works this way.
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>>169705374
>Against a >>good<< Warden you have to block left by default because you can't reaction-block his zone,
yea you can, if you block it you also get free gb
>You can't attack top because of crushing counterstrike
parriable (hard to do so, but people already doing it)
>You also can't get hit by a light ever because it combos into a shoulder bash and if you try to dodge a shoulder bash then a good Warden will see it and react to it by canceling into a guard break which you can't tech because you just got out of a dodge animation. If you choose not to dodge it then you get hit by it and that combos into another light.
roll to reset
>If you post a webm or a gif of you parrying his zone on reaction I will happily eat my words.
you dont need to parry zone since its a free gb if blocked, you just need to parry top light
>tournament results matter in a game that hasn't even been out for a month
you should enter and win with warden
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>get the same amount of XP and steel from versus AI dominion as you do from versus players dominion

I don't understand, why would anyone tolerate the gear and lag shitfest that is versus players dominion when you don't actually get any extra rewards for doing so?

>versus AI servers crash less than versus player servers because less people are likely to ragequit against bots
>bots still pose a challenge and you can practice 1v1-4
>fast, enjoyable games where you don't have to worry about gear score autism

Really, the only reason to go into PvP dominion is for contract orders.
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>>169705158
He is solaire
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>>169705568
yea its happening just in idle menu screen as well...
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>>169705637
can you get banned for afking? I told a LB nig who just kept stealing last hits to fuck off, then it happened. Don't really want to waste the time put into this >AI DOMINION
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>>169705551
>No fighting against Apollyon as the warden, cross, or orochi with unique dialogue for each of them.
Honestly I just want comfy adventures with Cross, Ayu, and the Jarl. Shenanigans, comedy, some romance. Could be goo shit.
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>>169705374
>If you post a webm or a gif of you parrying his zone on reaction I will happily eat my words.
this count or no
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>>169705764
>stealing last hits
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>>169705087
>be winning a 4v4
>error
Come the fuck on ubisoft. As if finding a match wasn't hard already.
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>>169705862
>Fighting someone, they're gonna die from poison
>lawnigger flies on by every time, sitting just a bit off waiting until the last 10-5% to hit
It's p. rude
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>>169705635
That Roach shouldn't Side dash attack until the shoulder bash is coming. That's how a PK can escape the vortex anyway
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>>169705862
He's talking about the dominion order for massive slaughter of innocent footsoldiers.
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>>169705691
Same reason you'd play 4v4 elimination, to share in victory with your team, cheering on the strangers you meet as they clutch it or go out swinging. There's not much sense of accomplishment wailing on a computer when you can fight another player to a close finish
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>>169701030
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Anyone else getting a increase in laggy games since the update?
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>>169705585
it will probably be a reward, most likely somehow related to the faction war, just like hopefully the ornaments from singleplayer that arent customizable will be
just my guess tho
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>>169705972
he isnt and even if he were there is no stealing last hits on something that dies in one hit
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>>169706006
Yeah, here
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I've got 15k steel, I'm really considering using it for a dumb mythic outfit for either zerker, ken-sama or warlord but I'm being indecisive, I pretty much play all of them equally, what do.
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>>169706006
it's been happening more and more recently

like hammering on the dodge button and nothing happens
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>>169705691
>bots still pose a challenge
kek
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>>169705970
the warden counter to side dash attacks is to cancel shoulder and parry the attack, it's pretty absurd
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Daily Reminder.
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>>169705995
I think PK has an Advantage over Warden but has a disadvantage from Zerker
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>>169705995
>Valk with that much red

lol not anymore nig
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Rep 6 shoulders are a bit underwhelming. Just the same ol' shoulders as before, only with studs on them this time.
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>>169706282
Yeah, that's from before the buff.
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>>169706192
Well, level 3 bots certainly aren't the type you can just braindead spam attacks against, unlike new players you get to stop with your 108 gearscore.
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>>169705962
>puts a dot on them and then runs the fuck away
>gets mad when someone actually kills the enemy instead of toying around with them
Oh so you're cancer. Fuck off.
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>>169705995
>tfw everyone shitting on LB

Either I'm doing great, matchmaking is pairing me against idiots or this is some kind of meme; I can play LB without much issue, just need to practice the combos.
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>>169706169
Fuck yes, this too
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How do some people dodge my "infinite" wall bashing combo as conq? What am I fucking up
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Did they actually add in new music with the patch?
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>>169706230
>Implying I'm reading all of this from a transparent knigger poster
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>>169706403
yea they said they were to the faceoff screen and shit
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>>169706163
>hoard until you decide
>make a decisiton
>realize you already have 30k steel and can afford all of them
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>>169705995
As raider and nobushi main this is really accurate.
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>>169706415
>graphs are reading.
nigga i could post the whole spreadsheet if you want.
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>>169706218
I'll worry about it when I see a Warden who can pull that off
Besides at this point I'd probably go from neutral into Zone cancel into light which cancels a shoulder bash or gb anyway
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>>169706163
save for new characters
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>>169705350
No, sidestep light does the crouching bleed while not doing much of a sidestep. It's the sidestep heavy that swings from the opposite side.
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>>169706169
it's really great when you randomly get 2s of input delay
>>169706357
>and runs away
Still fighting them, trying to kill them, but maybe they're blocking.
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>>169706361
LB generally seal clubs shitters who can't tech guard breaks.
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>>169703154
this but with lawbringer or raider. or orochi doing his charge-up stance or whatever more appropriate >>169700643
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>>169705540
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>>169705651
Stop acknowledging those people. Thread after thread its the same discussion, with people compiling information and almost writing whole guides on how to beat the class. Then another idiot rolls out the day after and things start over.

Leave them, let them learn how to play against a Warden, he is the mid-tier retard check, the first one being Orochi. Once they refine their fundamentals and start thinking about possible solution they will progress over.

I main a fucking Lawbringer. If I can deal with Wardens, so can you. Plenty of classes have even extra tools for the encounter, such as the Raider top light stun, the assassins + kensei + valk side dash + attack, etc.

Saying that the Reason Warden is not winning tournaments because the game is a month old is also ignorant as hell. A bunch of the people in those tournaments have been playing since the tech alphas. The main tool of the Warden is his vortex mixup, and if the opponent knows how to deal with that, its all over.
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>>169706545
I already have the good goy edition, no reason to.
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>>169706661
i'm quite new here, but that's sound advice. thanks very much.
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>>169706602
Lawbringer is most appropriate given his molasses-speed heavies
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Valk is waaaay too fast for her damage. Why did they even buff her, she was alright.
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>>169697928
Who draws these?
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>>169706549
hrm, weird. Does it swing from the way you dodge, and not what way you were guarding??
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>PK is not op
>PK is fine

well there you go, I have never touched pk before
went to duels in mid to high mmr
there are some of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZmKkVlgbpw&feature=youtu.be

I literally only spammed lights and zone
just mashing buttons

lost only 2 games
one vs a good valk
other vs berserk from enviromentals

I should have lost every single duel
this is borderline retarded
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>>169697594
sorry for the late reply
>pilums were deisgned to get stuck in shields
I agree on this matter
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>>169706715
i thought that gave you all of the mythic outfits?
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>>169701774
Its not innacurate, its imprecise

You could just as easialy stated that one green is not nessecairaly equal to another, and that using numbers would be superior

>>169701295
Why? Because I overrated or underrated him? I played conq in beta and havent touched him since.
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>GB now much easier to tech with the new babbymode patch
>free GB when Conq light is blocked now patched out
Peaceshitters about to be screaming for Conq nerfs lmao
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>>169706307
what do you expect from vikings?
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>>169706851
>mid to high mmr

you are aware there's no matchmaking right
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Why is a balance patch so big?
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>>169706169
>>169706116
For me it's attacks sometimes not even having animations or all a getting instantly guardbroken
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Threadly reminder Peaceshitter is low effort garbage and is the equivalent of plugging in a controller for your girlfriend on a fighting game and turning auto-combo mode on for her.
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Holy fuck whats with the servers
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>>169696543
Why am I getting "failed to synchronise cloud saves"? Are the servers dead?
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>>169706810
>She was alright

God no she wasn't, she was barely a step above the bottom rung where LB and Raider are stuck.
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>>169706925
t. low mmr shitter
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>>169706925
there is tho
why i have to wait for 5-10 minutes for a match when it says "all skill levels"?
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>>169706851
>I won duels against people who can;t parry a single PK light or PK zone

Wow! Good job, anon! Surely PK must get a nerf now!

That's BS and you know it. In fact, PK, and all other assassins, should get a passive where she deals 20% of her damage through the block of the enemy so that people cant just block all the attacks and have to parry them instead. Then we wont watch the snoozefest that are PK vs Warlord or Conq games in 1 v 1 tournaments where the Shieldfag just stands there blocking for 5 minutes fishing for an enviro kill.
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>>169707029
Now she's op though. She's way too fast for how much damage she dishes out and how defensive she can be. She literally has the best of all worlds and no weaknesses.
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>>169701295
>>169706917
Whoops, read LB as conq since thats what the other replies were talking about

I acually think LB is an overall better character than raider since his negative matchups are less negative, but I do think raider has an advantage against LB specifically.
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>>169706925
>queue for match
>player skill range one of the search conditions

That is MMR, autist.
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>>169706895
It gives you fancy outfits for the upcoming guys, but not the current ones unfortunately.
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>>169707026
Looks like it
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>>169707121
LB is pretty much a better Raider
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>>169707070
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>>169707070
keehu?

>>169707124
t. massive retard that doesn't understand that skill range is worthless because he's at the bottom
Want to log into my account for some sick nasty 20 minute queues? Meanwhile I hop on my friend's and get duels within 10 seconds
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>>169707030
>>169707124


there is literally no matchmaking. It's there for later purposes, when they implement ranked.
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>>169706817
some amputee who gets triggered by people having legs
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>>169705540
I would just parry them all

Besides, my Storm Rush (ストームラッシュ) is at the edge of human reaction speed. None of them ever stood a chance
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Stop spamming that the game is dying
Because it's not you fucking nigger
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>>169707121
Everyone who knows how to switch stances got an advantage over LB. Switched to conq not long ago - parrying niggas left and right now, with LB it was a damn struggle
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>>169707070
>PKshitter bitching about shield classes
>wanting the strongest class in the game to get an absurdly broken buff
Holy shit pisscuck mains are the worst cancer of this game. "My class is hands-down the best but needs a 20% block piece buff so it can be even more undisputedly broken." Piss off faggot.
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>Just reached Rep 6 as Lawman
>Still +70% winrate
You guys said he would fall to irrelevancy once you hit high lvl players, when that is going to happen? I'm scared
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>>169706532
that's what happens in >>169705635
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>>169707070
>I won duels against people who can;t parry a single PK light or PK zone

Are you retarded? That's the point, dumbfuck. You're barely ever going to manage to parry a PK light.

What the fuck is this autism?
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Is Warden still cancer? Literally the only reason I went knight faction tbqhwyf
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>>169707291
>once you hit high lvl players
maybe when you get past having a shitty win rate
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>>169707236

The game IS dying though.

Every game is dying, once something comes to life, death is just an inevitability.
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So what should i do next fhg? Learn conqueror or work on getting my nobushi to prestige 3?
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>>169705551
Apollyon is as one-note as villains come. She wants people to "recognize what they are" by instigating war everywhere. Every time you see her, she's never not talking about her sheep and wolves schtick. She values cutthroats and people who betray her or stand up to her, and she literally thinks peace is stupid. She only gets as far as she does because she's absurdly powerful. Even when the Orochi finally kills her, she's convinced she won because she got the global war she wanted.
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>>169707291
70% winrate in what, 4v4s?
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>>169707291
>70%
>high win rate
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>>169707360
Nietzsche pls go
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Anyone got the other Orochi parts? How do they look?
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>>169705862
>be Shugoki
>1v1'ing enemy Warden
>I'm losing
>Beat him down to 2 bars, he gets me to critical hp
>I know the zone attack is coming, I can feel it
>Here it comes
>PARRIED
>throw into wall and pick him up in bear hug
>about to break his spine after a hard won fight
>suddenly out of fucking nowhere my PK teammate with damage buff comes and kills both me and the enemy with a heavy attack
>doesn't even bother to revive me, just runs away immediately

fucking cunt
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>>169698148
>conq
>S
The fuck are you smoking, he is good but nowhere near S. High B tier to low A tier seems more like it.
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>>169707498
t. retard
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>love nobushi's character design and aesthetics
>zones people out by attacking, in a game where attacking is inherently risky

feels bad
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>>169707291
LB isn't as bad as lawfag memeers want you to believe
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>>169707265
>hands down the best
Lol since when? The "best classes" are the two fags, Conq and Warlord, who can sit on their ass all round and block everything, until they decide to go for a free hit with a headbutt or a sidedash + shieldbash iframe attack with Conq. Tournaments for this game are a joke because of that. Assassins are bad right now and need a buff that lets them counter tanks. So if they deal damage through block, it would force the tanks to actually play the game or die to chip damage.

>>169707305
>you will rarely manage to parry a PK light
If you are bad, sire. Watch the pro scene. The most yawnworthy gamestyle which is "LUL I just never attack!" wins all the time with PK players having to do fucking miracles to get the tanks to crack and open up.
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>>169707418
Go outside
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>>169707539
The one that made the list , yeah
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>>169707030
>>169707036
>>169707124

>people are this desperate to think they're super duper high mmr

I'm sitting at around 600 duels done, with a 85% winrate and I still face utter shitters, and good people. I assume it's simply there until they add Ranked, as they said they would. Because right now, from what I can tell, it's the fucking wild west.
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>>169707498
t. wood league pro
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>>169702116
>>169707618
ok anon
What do you do after dodging shield bash?
Enlighten me.
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>>169707430
>>169707450
Yes, currently at 82% on duels but there I also play Warden
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>>169707291
>70%
Come by again when you reach 90 and we can talk.
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>>169707539
t. assblasted assassincuck
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>>169707426
i dont care, every fight scene she had was pretty well choreographed and then she would pop off a one-liner

good enough for me
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>>169707360
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>>169707498
if you honestly believe this and aren't trolling, you must have either never faced even a decent conq or you main conq and you suck
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>>169707178
He cant cancel into light, which is a really useful tool against slow blockers, such as LB himself. Against anyone who has quick block anyway, yeah, I'd say it doesnt make a difference so LB is better.

The problem with the chart is that it doesnt show you that a lot of raider's reds are like -2 when lawbringers reds are only -1, which causes him to look worse.
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>>169707561
he doesn't do a single thing better than anyone else
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>>169706851
you're such a fucking butthurt bitch it's unreal
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>>169707026
also getting it
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Does Nobushi have any of those special skin items like Warlord/Warden?

Also, what kind of stats for the Blade? Focus Attack/stam/def, or something else?
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>>169707070
you must parry the first attack. if you block it, she will be positive enough to the point that trying to parry her next light shortens the parry window a bit, putting you at a disadvantage.

if she hits you, next one is unavoidable if you are a heavy. if the second hit of her chain hits, you cant parry the first hit of her next chain, since the hitstun will make the parry window completely pass you by, such as trying to parry a warden top heavy out of a grab. you just need to block.

her light attack spam is her biggest strength, since other assassins share her long dash
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anyone else still have strict NAT? I'm fairly certain it's not on my end. Can't find any matches either
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>>169707587
>Conq is the best class in the game
>complaining about shield classes when you clearly use THE cancer class of the game
Holy fucking Christ lmao begging you to get good
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>>169707484
You dont get to main Orochi around here
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>>169706849
Correct. If she step-slashes to her left, she swings towards her left, meaning you have to block left instead of right (the direction she's stepping). Nobushi and Kensei are the only heroes who sidestep-slash like that.
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>>169707587
As a PK main, fuck off. We really don't need a buff at all.
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>>169707938
*unzips katana* what did you just say about me?
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>>169707426
Apollyon did win though. Her enemies killed her.
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>>169707919
>haha, get good man! Shield classes are fine!
>all those high-tier tournament players are shit too btw I am the best haha!

Nice try Conqcuck.

>>169707889
>what is allblock
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>>169707587
Chip damage through block would either be OP or pointless, nowhere inbetween. Either you do less than a warlord R2 through shield and he accepts the trade and plays same as normal, or you do so much damage that blocking with any character becomes tottaly pointless. What we need is something unique, like a way to keep people in allblock stance from teching a grab.
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>>169707884
all classes have special skin items.
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>>169708074
>every single class has it
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>>169707587
both of them are directly countered by shugoki, with his superarmor. with him the headbutt/bash are absorbed into a free grab.

with conq specifically, opening with his light unto a bash will trade/get interrupted by shugokis light, which isnt good since he has the possibility to heal during the fight.

if you are dueling a god conq or warden and want to switch characters, use shugoki.
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>>169707587
>Watch the pro scene.

There is no fucking "pro scene" you mouthbreather. There's literally just retards who sign up to play in a tournament and then they play. That's it. Whoopdeeshit.
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the fuck? is that patch on pc seriously 4gb large?
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>>169707587
PK light is the most difficult to parry

Call it easy, call it hard, doesnt matter; its the hardest and least likely, objectively
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>>169708074
>PKuck main trying to talk shit on any class
I'm fucking dying here lmao
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>>169705995
Is that a loss?
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So I'm wondering which class to play. I like how the conqueror and warden look, and nobushi can be fun too but her customization options look like fucking trash
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>>169708074
all block is limited to 2 classes. thinking peacekeeper needs a buff because there are 2 classes geared for countering characters who can faceroll light attacks is not responsible
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>>169707334
Nah, people are bitching about the Peacekeeper nowadays. Warden is not the most egregious character in the game.
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>>169708192
You should sign up and win one, then : ^ )
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I'm getting huge fps drops since the patch, is it just me ?
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>>169707587
>a single tournament held by a bunch of Redditors and Twitch faggots = an established pro scene that should be the basis of all meta discussion
Please just stop posting Pisscucker
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>>169703274
bullying is bad and you should feel bad
also that's not a funny meme at all
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>>169708348

I could sign up, sure. Win one? Doubtful. Point is, just because it's touted as a "TOURNAMENT" that's about bottom of the barrel as it gets, when they literally have to get a caster that's gotten fired 3 times previously because of his toxic behavior since he's the only one who's willing to scrape the bottom that far, I doubt you get to call it a pro-scene.
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>>169707360
Damn.......really fires up the neurons
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>>169707668
I swing my katana to the side
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>>169708404
the first hello is a henlo, you STINKY SLUT
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So is the patch out? I never got an update for it. Ps4 btw.
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>Duel against zerker as conq
This was absolote fucking cancer. I teched like 50 guardbreaks and otherwise guardbreaks were also my only way to deal damage in return. In all 3 rounds we both got revenge.
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>>169708628
just for pc right now
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>>169707303
The Roach Dash attack is much easier to see than the PK dash attack
Again I'll worry about it when I met a Warden I don't instantly fuck
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is there a vod of the pinkhaired faggot chimping out in the tournament finals yesterday?
I'd love to see it.
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>>169708072
The Orochi killing Apollyon was a self-fulfilling validation of her beliefs. You would've had to imprison her and let her die of old age in order to defeat her philosophy.
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>>169707587
Get a load of this Peaceshitter actually defending himself

You're playing the casual masher class, get over it
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>>169708192
i guess he was trying to say watch the high level players. yeah youre right since no one gets paid to play this game, but dont call him a mouthbreather, simply correcting him is enough.

yeah yeah this is 4chan we can be edgy here. but dont fish for (you)s or arguments.
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>>169696543
>billion Pisskeepers in 1 v 1 today
I literally leave in the match startup screen. Not dealing with another one of >>169706851
those today. Not worth the stress trying to parry their lights while they are just spamming buttons at me.
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>>169708740
search for dmbrandon on twitch
there should be a vod
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Why the fuck is Uplay suddenly unable to sync cloud saves? Restarting it doesn't fix it.

Will I lose anything if I skip syncing?
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What did he mean by this ?
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>>169708684
>play a hyper defensive character that gets parries off blocks
>wow stop trying to GB me
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>>169708684
hes pretty easy to parry, because unlike peacekeeper, blocking a light doesnt make it harder to parry the next light. dont be afraid to go for a parry when hes pressuring you
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>>169707587
If you fuck up parrying the first PK light, you're just plain screwed with how fast she can chain them. That's not including a random zone that you literally cannot block during a light string because you're too busy following the indicator. You can block (or maybe even parry if you get a good read) the zone from neutral, but good luck punishing it. It's free. I don't even get why she gets so much damage from lights. Isn't her whole gimmick the huge punish on GB? Why does she get to be the best outside of that too?

Allblock from shieldbearers is necessary to deal with her bullshit, but in turn it fucks with regular classes who don't have the tools PK has.
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>>169708704
Fuck. Is there an eta when it's gonna be out for consolefags?
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>>169696543
r8 my teammate from last game
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>>169708835

That means the login servers and/or the cloud servers are down. Here we go again with the waiting, I suppose.
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So how does Guard Break teching feel after the patch.
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>>169708835
It worked after a while for me.
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>>169709004
The same, all they changed is if you started a gb right after your opponent did, you're not locked out of teching.
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Anyone else sometimes get stuck in the match loading screen?
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Why is a balance patch so fucking big? 4 gigs?
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>>169708867
>smiley faces
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Which character is the best at initiating the fight? I'm tired of having turtle matches.
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>>169708823
he does for honor? cool. hes a dick but he is good at speeches

at what time in the vod does happen approx?
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>>169709102
That sounds like you're allowed to mash the button as soon as you see the enemy start a GB attempt.
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>>169708972
what the fuck is that emblem supposed to be even, I see it all the time.
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>>169709120
Wow man you are so cool
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>>169709156
have no idea
towards the end
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>>169709197
and you're a fucking child, do one mate
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>peacekeeper can time a sidestep to attempt to deflect a shugoki light, and will still dodge and punish the attack if it turns out to be a heavy with that same timing
>double poke pops armor and immediately stuns for safety
>her fake light into zone completely screws shugoki since he's a slow blocker
>peacekeeper is litteraly built to fuck
fat men

Now that I think about it, if PK were nerfed, shuggyduggy might see more tournament play, and since hes allegedly got a good matchup against allblockers that means PK will actually have to play fewer bad matchups.
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>get guardbroken and attacked at the same time
Whats happening ?
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>>169709140
Warden probably. Warlord, Conqueror, and Peacekeeper are also good at sneaking in hits reliably.
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>fighting a raider (LEGENDARY)
>beat him clean in the first round
>he tosses me off in the first few seconds of the second round
>he leaves before the third round starts
but I wasn't even mad dude
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>tfw prefer the keyboard controls for actually moving and vastly prefer 1 key press for shit like hidden stance and everything else
>Times better/quicker at reacting for stance switches on a controller stick

I hate it so much.
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>>169709196
It's the emblem of the Uchiha clan from Naruto. They want to be edgelords from the most basic bitch anime/manga.
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Is there like a pastebin of all the voice lines and their translations?
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>>169709251
>indented the middle of the last line
>not "shuugiduugi"
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>>169707070
>katanas are underpowered in d20
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>>169709173
Effectively, yes.
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>>169709246
>bitches about smiley faces
>"mate"
>calls other people children

Right, you are either autistic or really stupid. In either case there is no reason to talk with you any further. Just wanted to point out how pathetic you are.
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>>169700536
filtered
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>>169709313
>fighting berserker on dominion
>raider comes from behind and ganks me
>respond
>fighting berserker again
>raider comes out to gank me again
>berseker steps back
>throw raider off a cliff
>continue fighting berserker
>raider spams wow! in the comments
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>>169708835
Any progress you make today will likely not show until the next time the saves sync up. That and option settings. So, as long as you're not some sperg who only cares about gear, steel, and big numbers, you're good to go. Just got back from a duel marathon. Only a couple of "recovering gameplay state" hiccups. Game's running perfect otherwise.
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>>169698106
He has two running options which 2x more than the rest.
His heavy running attack can be linked into his mix up/combo, again, unlike the rest.
His running shield push, if held can be prolonged so you can push him ove the ledge.

The headbut thing, you probably seen mid combat....The combo, again, starts from dodge heavy, headbutt, guaranteed light stab.

He does heavy-light, light-heavy combos. You can start the light-heavy to prod defenses. If you think you have health to spare you can "trade" blows with your heavies. Does wonders for execution. Since heavy is uninterruptible on start up, so its his dodge heavy for closing distances. On unrelated note so is the berserker variant.
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>>169709549
bit of a pathetic and autistic response
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>>169709196
Sasuke shit from Naruto
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>spent 16k steel on Nobushi
She's worth it.
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>>169709419
>>169709720
Well that explains it. I wonder what it is about this game that attracts all the narutofags, I've seen the emblem a lot.
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>>169709761
>U FOCKIN W8, ANIKI
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>>169709549
>getting assblasted that your Reddit-tier behavior was called out
You really don't belong here chump.
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>>169709819
If you aren't using the emblem ironically and playing roach ironically you are an actual-weeb
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>get prestige 1
>start getting matched against prestige 2 and 3 who actually mop the floor with me
Welp
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one fucking thing i gotta say about warlord

>me shugoki, revenge build
>them warlord, revenge build
>both activate revenge
>my charged heavies only do 1 bar of health

holy shit he is tanky with revenge
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>>169709853
Think it'd be cool as one of those overlay'd pings that when they click it to view the bigger picture it'd turn into the second mask.
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>>169709761
I want to learn her, but I've been getting my shit kicked in. The idea seems to be that she has to maintain space and use whatever sorts of dodges and kicks to control that space, but her attacks feel slow, and people still manage to close in on me.
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How the fuck do I secure kills as Warlord? I know about the running heavy, the dash into headbutt, the zone attack for range, but I can't catch these fuckers as soon as they decide to just sprint away.
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Is Kensei really as bad as people say he is?
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why are peacekeepers so fucking mad all the time? lmao
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>>169709543
What a disaster.
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>>169709761
I spent 15 on Conq's costume, 7k on Shugoki's sit execution and I'm planning on spending another 5k on Conq's wind up execution and then 5k on Kensei's gut slice
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>>169708870
Nigger I have no idea what you are talking about I'm level 5
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>>169710030
she honestly feels like she's pretty much control; reacting to people and poking when she can, Hidden Stancing shite like unblockables.

As for the picture, anything to change?
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>>169709549
Fick dich
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Anybody else having a problem with ''Failed to synchronize cloud saves'' while trying to open the game?
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>>169710109
Wouldn't you be mad if you lost to a player playing an objectively worse class than you, with 80 lower gear score than you, with 3 prestige less experience than you, all the meanwhile you're playing one of the best heroes in the game?
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>>169710109
based weeb blowing out PKs
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>>169710267
please delete this image
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>>169710061
I get the feeling Warlord is designed just to outlast his opponent. You can't cut him down, but he'll cut you down eventually.

>>169710071
No. Kensei is right in the middle of the pack and is more dependent on player skill than most every other character. He stands a good chance against the entire roster, and even against his worse matchups (Conqueror and Warlord), he can still pull out a win, but you have to work for it. If you're good, Kensei is great; if you're shit, Kensei will struggle.
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>>169710109
Every Pisscucker is a sweaty powergaming neet tryhard who expects a win and throws an autistic fit if they don't. That's why they pick the best class.
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>>169708823
was kingrichard streaming this as well?
no idea if he even has a stream, but I wanna see his reaction.
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>>169699780
A bit better but nothing groundbreaking.
I like the shield crush into light combo though, gives a bit more flavor to the playstyle and it makes her less predictable, something she really suffered from despite being a mix-up/combo based character.

>>169700218
>>169700376
Probably a bug with how the new lunge+light chain works.
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>>169710267
>>169710323
No, Makoto is bae.

A dead character that will never be in a good Street Fighter game again, but bae.
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>>169710184
I would switch out the revenge gains with the revenge attack/defense, you'll often get it just as quickly since youre getting whole chuncks of revenge meter at a time.
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>>169710127
I've spent probably 20,000 steel on Shugoki so far scavenging and buying the pit viper outfit like an idiot.

Still wanna get that sit executuion
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>>169696543
Fuck viability tier lists. Post respectability tier lists. Which players do you respect the most? I will start:

>Most Respectable tier:
Lawbringer, Kensei

>Still cool dudes tier:
Valk, Conq, Raider

>Neutra tierl:
Berzerker, Nobushi

>Not respectable tier:
Shugoki. Warlord

>Scum of the Earth tier:
Warden, Pisskeeper, Roaches
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>>169710127
>5k on Kensei's gut slice

>gut slice
>when you can get the most painful looking execute with the spine blade one

That one makes me actually cringe. It looks so fucking nasty.
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>>169708963
Depends on long certification takes.
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>>169710184
i know people say debuff duration makes you recover faster from getting parried and stuff, but i dont believe that since a debuff by definition shouldnt reduce what i guess is cc, and ive never seen any videos demonstrating this.

to me a debuff is something that reduces a certain stat. attack, defense, or health, something that can be tuned. i think stun time from a parry isnt a stat, since its the same for everyone.

unless you have proof that debuff duration reduced the time you are stunned from a hit or parry, id change that to revenge mode duration.

and if you do have that proof show it to me since i would end up changing my build too.

keep in mind nobushi cant always be grabbed after a parry since her range
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I really really really want Ayu's mask and helmet. Is there really no way to get them?
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>>169710184
Revenge mode duration i think it's more reliable than debuff resistence
Also, Revenge mode attack could be a little better than revenge gain by injury since the time where you will need revenge is usually when you are getting ganked, and you will not get that much time to attack during those situations.
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>>169709540
>katanas were one handed weapons in NWN
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>>169710551
Both of Kensei's buyable executions are pretty nasty. One disembowels you, and the other sticks his nodachi directly down your neck. Those are both way more impactful than "stab on the ground" and "iaido decapitate."
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>>169710501
it's one of the best executions in the game

>>169710551
I think the spine cut is generic, gut slice has a lot of weight to it. Definitely going to get wind up first, but I only have 1500 steel right now
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>>169704473
its a stupid name for attack canceling

>>169704721
>that is a concise as answer I can give you without confusing things further

ooh ooh pick me, i'll make it confusing
specifically, it's canceling a basic attack before it lands into a special attack, usually with a directional change up to ensure it connects

i've always called it attack canceling but that's because i'm from the guilty gear crowd and its always just been called that
in that series of games it's possible with most characters to attack cancel into specials, overdrives (not recommended you need that tension gauge for other shit) and command throws/grabs, and then there's the fucking mess of jump canceling attacks and a bunch of other shit i've forgotten how to do

FH is literally babby tier compared to the goddamn convoluted shit i used to play
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>>169710424
she belongs on /s/, not here
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>>169710650
>germany & france
>turkish

Wow, xhamster are retarded, aren't they?
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>>169705268
What's the combo?
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>>169709140
Anything with an unparriable unblockable or pisskeeper.
Please don't become another pisskeeper
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>>169710650
>Koreans and Chinese both want to fuck Japanese
Ain't that some shit.
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>>169710824
they probably have a lot of "german" turkish users searching for turkish shit
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>failed to sync
FUUUUCK YOU UBI
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>>169710650
>Germany
>Turkish
The Germans really are the biggest cuckolds on the planet aren't they?
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>>169710735

I cheese like a motherfucker as shugo so I can't wait to get it
>>169710650
>all these countries wanting to fuck Nip woman
>Germany
>France
>Canada
>all looking for shitskins
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>>169710735
>I think the spine cut is generic, gut slice has a lot of weight to it. Definitely going to get wind up first, but I only have 1500 steel right now

I think it's less the act itself, it's the fact that he looks at the blade when it's stuck there and realizes that it's stuck - so he pushes down harder. It just looks a bit too realistic the way he does it.
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>>169710903
they are tsundere as fuck
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>>169710109
kek everytime i see shit like this, especially warlord/pisskeeper players losing
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>>169702330
As a LB i have difficulty against anyone who can GBC.

How do you damage without being able to GB?

All his attacks are so slow and easily dodged/blocked/parried.
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>>169710896
>unparriable unblockable
I'm pretty sure there's not a single direct attack in the game that can't be parried.
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>>169710650
>Worse Korea wanting to fuck Japan
I call bullshit
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>>169710071
He is good and perfectly viable but they nerfed him in todays patch a bit so I dont feel like playing him anymore
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>>169710650
>immigration not a bad thing.
Xhamster, roaches aren't germans
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>there are people who genuinely think Valkyrie or FemRaider are attractive
Is there anything more disgusting and degenerate than musclefags?
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>>169710650
>murica, stralya, worst korea, thai ladyboys, kthooeys and chinks all want to subjugate japs
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>>169708754
You're unfamiliar with Justin Trudeau.
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>>169710927
That's what I was implying, yes.

Well over a million shitskin subhumans searching pornography of their shitskin kind, and the jews making porn interpret this as "HURR MULTIKULTI AM GUD" as usual.
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>>169711007
Top light or parrys
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>>169711042
Deflects
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>>169711118
Incoming "fuck off /pol/" triggered betamale cuckolds
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I sort of want to go full autist and try to get mAx reputation with Lawbringer.

I was tempted to play more warden after hitting rep 10 but maybe there will be more rewards at some point?
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>>169710502
This is just a tier list from the worst classes to the best.
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>>169710551
>>169710715

The japs were brutal almost savage like very different from how people picture samurai
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Post end decides who I'll take to prestige 3.

0/1 - Raider
2 - Berserker
3 - Warlord
4 - Warden
5 - Kensei
6 - Lawbringer
7 - Orochi
8 - Conqueror
9 - Shugoki
Dubs - Pissmaker
Trips - Valkyr
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>>169710842
Parry - grab - headbutt - they are out of stamina and fall - 2 lights - sweep legs - heavy.

Most classes have 120-130 HP so thats nearly half their HP off of 1 parry. One of the best if not the best parry punishes in the game.

Unless you manage to get someone off of stamina with a Berserker parry, toss them to the ground, then do side heavy + top heavy before they get up. But Valk one guarantees full stamina drain while Zerker parry doesn't, so its more consistent.
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>pick a class
>/fhg/ says it's OP
>pick a different one
>opponent says it's OP
What am I supposed to do?

Also wish there was a random pick button.
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Shugoki is the best in the game still. Do you even unparryable double hit with hyper armor?

Lawbringer isn't too bad either at high level anymore since the shove unlock light is free damage and stamina drain.

Tournament results would be wildly different if they didn't ban the high level tech.
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>>169711305
kensei is honest
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>>169711256
imagine being the most versatile out of all versatiles anon
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>>169711343
God why can't the femzerker ingame dress like this? I hate the t-shirt for all her chestpieces
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>>169711343
>Shad
Anon-kun pls
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>>169711042
if you block a peacepeeker light, her next light is harder to parry since you are stunned long enough that it cuts into the parry time. just like how you cant parry a warden grab into top heavy but you can block it.

if her first light attack hits, dont even try to parry since you will have a tough enough time switching stances to block it, heavies cant even switch stance fast enough.

thats why people bitch about her. if you dont parry the first attack coming from her, she doesnt have much to lose from attacking again, since if you try to light attack back, hers will win, grabs wont work, parries are less reliable, and if you try to block its a guessing game as to which way she will go, since human reaction time can only go to far and you only have 1/3rd to 1/4 of a second to react to the attack.

allblockers are good against her though
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>>169710478
Hrm, you might be right. Shame I upgraded some of those bits then, eh?
>>169710607
I've been told it also helps with Bleeds/etc; not entirely sure. Not noticing a huge difference in terms of GB recovery/etc, but I've not played too many rounds since.
>>169710679
For what I was told, You want Duration to be low so you can get healed/knock people down with revenge, do a lot of damage, and then have it re-trigger.
You're almost certainly right on the Injury bit though, should switch to Attack. Shame I maxed the thing already, but that's my bad.
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>>169711421
Shit's cold up in Valkenheim.
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>>169711269
>conq so low if we look at it that way, literally S tier class in tournaments
>Orochi better than Warlord and Conq
>Warden better than Warlord and Conq

Wrong.
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>>169711224
>anon flips over pointless "fap for breast cancer"-tier porn statistics
>"everyone else is triggered, I'm calling it!"

Litteraly "please give me a (you)": the post. Here it is.
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>>169711062
korea doesnt have a porn industry, neither does china. japan is the only place they can look to to find women that look like them
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>>169710773
She belongs everywhere she can be appreciated anon.
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>>169711343
Can you actually do all that without draining your own stamina?
Also, can't they just dodge the sweep or are they still recovering from the fall?
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>>169711190
Seems like it. I just downloaded the patch and then shitty Uplay tried to "synchronize your saves to the cloud" over and over and failed. I clicked skip and it launches the game but I can't get on because the servers can't be reached. Pretty much a repeat of what had happened just a few days ago. wew
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Im on vacation what became of the faction war
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>>169710502
>shugoki not respectable tier

I mean I went from Shugoki to Conq main and I gotta say being a conq main feels a lot more scummy than before. At least you're forced to hyper armor a lot of moves with shugoki, with conq you literally just turtle.
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what do I do against PKs that just wait for me to attack then do their invincible side dodge attacks?
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>>169711304

Well, back then, everyone was a fucking savage. It's just that it's mostly not worth putting into the history books, since it was so commonplace.
I mean, just look at an excerpt from a book written about The Jacquerie in 1358.

>"peasants killed a knight, put him on a spit, and roasted him with his wife and children looking on. After ten or twelve of them raped the lady, they wished to force feed them the roasted flesh of their father and husband and made them then die by a miserable death".

People are fucking savages. No doubt a lot of vile shit like this happened everywhere during those days - albeit maybe not too often examples like above. But still. People are insane.
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>>169711392
>unparriable double hit
>"""high level"""
>"""tech"""
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>>169696543
>"We're sorry, our servers are shit. You get no rewards and the 5 executions in skirmish vs AI didn't count for your order. Please play skirmish vs AI again."

holy shit why
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>>169711356
Pick your favorite based on their look, personality, and playstyle. Ignore every suggestion about balance or fairness, the game will be regularly updated anyways and what is good now may be shit in the future.

>>169711668
Vikangz won the first round.
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>>169711356

People in game are retards.

I had a PK and Warlord shittalk me for playing an OP class like Kensei.

If you beat someone, your class is just OP
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>>169711668
Vikings won round one, but not by much; they won three scavenger crates. Knights took second and got two crates.
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>>169711513
So why does raideeeeeer go around nekkid? Does his legendarnessity keep him warm?
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Is there a resource showing all of the purple gear you can find? I don't want to put my steel into upgrading something to 18 only to find something way more rad later on
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>>169704771
The least they could have done is made his side unblockable hit dodges to the left and right, still gives the player the chance to dodge back (which good laws will force enemies into a corner so they can't) or to parry it (which is even easier than parrying raider's unblockable) but noooooOOOOOOOOooo ubisoft has no love for lawbringer mains
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>>169711529
>trying to shoehorn the "Conq is top tier" meme
Please stop trying to deflect criticism from Brokenkeeper
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>>169711529
>Conq
>Good
m8..
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>>169711392
>exploiting a bug
>high level
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>>169711746
Feint, but PK is so easy that they're still effective unlike all of the other side dodge attacks.

It's generally a free parry if Orochi/Kensei/Berserker/Nobushi bite the bait, but a PK is still fast as fuck and hard to even block.
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>>169711392
thats a bug. i do not unparrable double hit with a SUPERARMOR with shugoki because i do not want to learn a bad habit that will be patched.
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>>169711746
You wait for them to attack. Defensive play is infinitely superior right now.
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>>169711668
End of round 1? Literally nothing, you get a number of boxes depending on your factions place, 1st place got 3 boxes, 2nd got 2 boxes etc.
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>>169711746
You feint to bait their dodge.
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>>169711607
They can't dodge the sweep off of the parry combo. They can dodge it if you get them to the ground with the shieldbash, though. You will be low on stamina after you do it all, but you can perform it without being fully drained.

>>169711672
A ton of Shugokis fish for ledge and hugkills all the time. Their attempts usually fail miserably, but its the mentality that counts. No respect for them from me.
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>>169710184
>he fell for the debuff resistance meme
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Holy hell. I play Conq because I think he looks badass and it's fun to mash people with a flail, I don't even turtle with him.

But now I'm going to exclusively play a turtle Conq because it makes assassincucks fly into an impotent nerdrage that they can't just R1 spam for an easymode win. Top laffs
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>It's a 100% passive reactive opponent
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Is parry even useful as an Assassin, as a dodge alternative?
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>>169711895
>>169711910

>he is at the finals of every single tournament these days purely by chance, he isn't good!

Anons, pls. Don't be like peacekeepers. Conq is absolutely a top tier character right now with his iframe sideadash shieldbash tech.

Even if you want to claim that people in tournaments aren't good, they are the highest tier of players we have right now so we can not judge off of anything else.
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Is there any way to change control settings for my xbox pad on PC? Want to move GB button to Left Bumper.
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>>169712229
destroys enemy stamina and a free grab is a free grab
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>>169698839
Reminder that that's pattern welded, not Damascus.
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>>169712184
He's objectively less of a turtle than warlord, and can bash more frequently. You don't need to worry about turtling conatantly if it isn't your thing.
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>>169711802
>beat him with Conq
>"fucking cheese faggot stop spinning that infinite"
>ask him to play me again
>pick Kensei
>he picks his main (rep 2 shugoki)
>trash him 3-0
>"you think you're hot shit huh?"
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>>169711507
well if you want it to deal with bleeds, thats your preference. revenge duration is pretty noticeable though.

i like the duration because it lets you revenge, kill someone, and still have time to get an attack on the guy 1v1ing your teammate near you.

i main shugoki too though so its different for him. he can kill 3 people with one charged heavy since it does like 90% of a non-heavy/vanguard with one swing.

its also good because if you are fighting someone who just waits for your revenge to run out, then they will have to wait a good while longer.

its all preference though since the retrigger thing is a good point
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>>169711190
>>169711656

jk got a dialog window bitching about servers and then I just hit A to skip past it without reading the whole thing

Lo and behold now I'm able to play and am doing duels
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>>169712309
Unless you want to change INI files, you'll have to use Steam as a workaround.
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>>169697010
As a Berserker main I'd say a Berserker and either a warden or a Kensei, those are usually really fun and test my skills
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new thread up lads
>>169712182
>>169712182
>>169712182
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>>169712359
>playing shugoki
what a fuckin loser
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>>169712359
Any story behind that webm?
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>>169711843
im waiting to upgrade, theres 30 rep levels, and your gear level turns gold after leveling all 6 items to lvl 18? makes me think that there is gold gear much later down the line. 18 seems like a weird cutoff level for gear, and having a gold gear level just for upgrading all of your purple gear seems fishy.
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>>169712303
Can you link me some vids of godly top-level conqs winning without turtling? I like the aesthetic and I think the morning star is sick as fuck but, like, they can't even follow a guardbreak with a heavy or feint. They seem weak.
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>playing conk in duels
>found a neat trick where you hold down sprint but wiggle back and forth to look like you're just walking
>proceed to flame tackle a warden once i'm in range
>"haven't seen that bug before"
>found out it also works if you just stand still but have the sprint button depressed for at least a little bit
>do it again
>gets me the round win
>explain what i'm doing
>"sounds like a bug"
>. . .
>"reporting you just to be safe"
>he proceeds to leave mid match
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>>169698150
>LB can't effectively use the environment

What.
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>>169712303
once shugokis bug is fixed, he will be used a lot more. people are afraid of it happening accidentally so they arent using him
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>>169712182
>>169712182
>>169712182
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>>169712303
His shieldbash spam is cheese
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question for the people who watched the tournament finals yesterday:
why did the warlord almost always use Block and Stab (light attack after successful allblock) instead of Board and Blade (heavy attack out of allblock)?
Isnt Board and Blade confirmed? I main Warlord and I always use Board and Blade, it never fails after blocking the enemy in allblock.
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>>169712641
>bug
>reportable

sounds like cancerous idiotic moba players invading this game too
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>>169712863
you're a scrub
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>>169712989
too slow
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>>169712008
Shugoki players aren't typically tryhards going for that kinda strategy, they just think it's hilarious. And their other options are limited

t. Shugoki main
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>>169713007
>>169712761
I use the The shugo double hit bug, it's not you can't just dodge out of the way of it most of the time.

Dumb devs need to fix it before they try to give me a bann
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>>169709968
They stack def so you do fuckall for damage even outside of revenge. If he also stacks debuff res, you're in for an hour long of chipping through random pokes since you can't punish him.
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>>169712228
>Its a warlord that can tech GB
I don't know why people complain about PK and warden, at least they actually do shit and fight.
Warlord just waits for you to move and then pushes your shit in because there's no reliable way to get in.
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>>169712468
>>169712842

We're not even at 750 yet, fucking calm down.
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>>169713219
can you dodge out if it?
as I said, vs. the ppl I play against, it always hits.
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>Decide to go full conq
>See the 25 takedowns in Duels order
>Duels as conq all take forever because I get matched with experienced players only
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>>169714365
>Go some cheese class for the first 20 or so takedowns.
>Switch to conq for the last few.
>Ez exp.
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>>169704148
What was that persons name?
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Is there any class in the game that elicits more spite and salt than Shugoki?

I mean, what's more infuriating than getting bodied by a fat fuck?
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>>169714937
The only thing that bother me with Shugoki is my own retardry
The lardass is incredibly telegraphed in everything he do and yet I still far for it like a downie.

It's kinda like the Warlord, I can see his attack coming from a mile away and I fuck up the parry timing.
I'm too used to roaches and pacemakers
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>>169710392
>french guy whining in chat.
Wherever they are, they must also surrender.
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what the fuck is happening to the weebs
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>>169704410
>>169704490
>>169704416
Keep getting stomped, kiddies. I'll keep playing Conq and Shugoki, and I'll enjoy smashing those big, mean PKs into the ground for you.
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>patch comes out
>quit to desktop and quit to world map swapped spots
>fucking exit game almost every time I want to find others to play with

Ubi, do you make it a company aspiration to just fuck shit up every day?
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>>169714937
I feel much more rage when I lose to a lighter class; they can pull off some retarded shit because of their quick recoveries. I love bathing in salt by backbreaking scrubs as lardass, though.
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>>169710061
>>169710335
You get a top heavy off guard break, dudes.
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>>169718353
Kensei's top heavy unblockable chain ender comes off a guardbreak-throw, and it's not guaranteed unless it's a wallsplat.
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>>169709761
Is there no heroic version of the standard mask/hat? These are fucking ugly.
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>>169718551
just use steel to change tje apearance
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>>169718803
I mostly just interested if there's an even better version. Got the rare one right now.
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>tfw you destroy people 3vs1 with Warlord.
Its almost like im Lord of War.
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Well fuck it. I'm gonna main warden. You did it ubishit, I'm done with lawbringer. I have 0 faith you will make any meaningful buffs to him.
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>>169711885
I've gotten people when they've dodged to the side with it lot of times but I definitely would like it too hit more times than not
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>>169720391
Git gud.
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>>169718532
Pretty sure he's talking about Warlord, not Kensei.
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>>169720391
You missed the dev stream today, ye of little faith. Lawbringer (and Raider) is next in line for buffs.
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