>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
New player guides: http://killurselves.com/
Discord: https://www.discord.gg/zVVknxj
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/
>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
Good teams when?
is it true that the whole doge meme thing came from this puppey pic?
trees are not so good with motion you know
what if this is zeus
Why do you dotababs even bother making generals? It's absolutely dead, just once again proof that LoL > Dota in literally every aspect.
Your champs are just edgy gays and your entire game is about farming gold for an hour only to click on towers when the enemy champs are not around.
Are you using blue minimap or basic?
Is there any reason to use basic?
i hate this new VS screen so much, jesus
is this fucking pokemon?
Nagas pic is fucked
>>169692659
i love it
>>169692659
I like it too, it's so anime
>>169692751
its a beta
>>169692659
You can't even see the chat during it. If someone types something in the picking phase it literally disappears forever
>>169692659
I'm pretty sure that was specifically made for esports but somehow they still don't have the technology to put team logos/banners on the empty spaces
>>169693617
>implying that wont be a big ti reveal
>be 3k shitter
>try my darnest hardest to get better but fail
>watch slacks 5k stream
>gets caught out all the time and misses a fuckton of cs
i want to kill myself
what if enchantress could mind control ursa or lycan in doge form with enchant for a couple of secs
>>169695049
You can do the next best thing and enchant their illusions
>>169694796
just main omni (or any other hero) like he did and you will reach 5k
>>169695083
but i want to clap with ursa and give howl to my team with lycan
enchantress needs buffs !
>the anon i gave tips to last thread didnt answer at all
Not sure if he read them at all and if hes gonna do something about it or not
>Hero damage now cancels shrine regen
There, I just fixed shrines. How is this so hard for icefaggot?
>>169695464
is it about pl (best hero)?
Can someone tell me how the fuck is ar1se so consistently amazing on magnus
>>169694796
It's all about the grind
He has 51.93% wr
>>169695591
he only plays magnus and not any other heroes, total garbage on any other heroes. Thats why hes not playing on a pro-level.
shiling pubstars and pros to make their viewers increase is reddit faggotry, so you should leave to reddit.
>>169695591
he basically mains the hero
how hard it is to patiently wait for your team to fight before pressing r
>>169695727
You cant be seriously implying arise paid me to post on 4chan on all places
>>169695512
icefrog hire this man
>>169695764
he means you should not post here anymore, arise
>>169695764
arise go watch your amateur boxing movies, champion of the toilets
>>169695836
>>169695915
measure your words cause i might smash ur head the next time i see you
gee I sure do wonder how long its gonna take for d2g to 'turn' on matumbaman because he's popular now
>>169695591
>>169695727
>>169695836
that said, arise is impressive on magnus. He was the one popularizing turning before rp i think.
>>169696037
arise can you just fucking leave and stop play Dota. You are garbage, get a job and make your romanian parents atleast feel a little bit proud of giving you birth.
what's the best counterpick website
I've been using dotapicker
why is dota so full of bullies
>>169696185
www.git-gud.yourownhead
>>169696185
um excuse me but can you stop shilling your shitty picking website
>>169691874
u fockin wot m8?
Dota 2 community is by far the most open to change out of every major game I can think of.
>>169696882
the starcrumpets and discord posters are nothing but vultures, ignore their """"""""""opinions""""""""""
god d2g sure went to shit
>>169698176
>god 4chan sure went to shit
ftfy
>2017
>still no black dotards
Wtf
>tfw you don't even need to buy wards
>>169693801
>implying it won't be a goypendium stretch goal
>>169698915
who is ritsu
>>169699090
you mean
>tfw you play in 2k
>>169699090
i LOVE the tree
>>169698915
coon
>>169698915
another successful year.
>>169699134
i'm sitting at 5.2k mmr and so long as the enemy team isn't being anal about taking down my trees i usually don't even have to get wards
luckily that happens quite a lot
>>169699130
This is a Loopooer, further proof that dotards are so deprived of the master race they can no longer recognize us
what's your opinion for this guy?
>>169699263
what's your tree build
>Build new rig
>play witcher 3 max settings at ~80 fps
>dotard 2 runs at ~50 fps, the exact same fps it ran on my old laptop while looking like a piece of shit at max settings in comparison
Why the fuck is dota 2 such an unoptimized piece of shit?
>>169699601
Because you didnt wait for ryzen
>>169695464
I'm here
I fell asleep because I was tired
and I didn't know what to respond with.
>pick up dark souls
>take 20 or soemthing hours of pure fun to get to the blacksmith
>my shitty pc spasms and causes me to hit him with my sword
Dota players are destined to not have fun right?
Why does my bad luck carry with me to other games?
Why can't I leave it in dotards 2?
>>169699318
badJerax
Should you max Icarus Dive before Sun Ray? The top phoenix players all do that
>>169699318
quite good really, and he should still improve with more top tier competitive experience
>>169699451
i'm not an authority on treant as I only recently started to play him in ranked but I usually go for the de-facto aggressive orb of venom nature's guise at lvl 1
after that I proceed to getting my arcane boots (though honestly I don't know if you even need given that the +2 mana regen talent takes care of practically all your mana needs) and depending on whether I'm needed as an initiator or whether I can afford to take it slow, I'll get a blink or aghanim's respectively
after that you can just get the big items you want (refresher's orb, octarine, etc) because provided you're diligent in placing eyes of the forest everywhere, you'll be raking in 500+ gold every minute or so
>>169699601
>play witcher 3
Did tortigo or whatever his brazillian name was fuck off these threads already?
>>169699318
dota 2 picking phase
>>169699318
hey why is everyone psoting liquid shitters?
Are they relevant now?
>>169699751
>rpgs are bad
>>169699773
tiago is fucking white. He's from portugal
>>169699318
if he lost 15 kg he would look good
and he also needs to trim just fucking eyebrowns, looks like a fucking forest
>>169699648
>buying state of the art investor bait
nice try, amd, I'll just wait for its value to plummet to the ground like all other components before it.
>>169699914
Who cares what fucking color he is if he acts like a nigger. So did he kill himself already or not
>>169699773
Dont give him attention and he will
>>169699803
I didnt imply that, i implied
>witcher 3
>>169699803
starseries champions m80
>>169699987
>a singleplayer mmo
>good rpg
>>169699773
tortilla is 40 years old and balding, he lives in arab town, portugal.
>>169699987
>witcher 3 is bad now
Man I am so out of touch with you /v/irgin hipsters nowadays, is gamergate also set for some 'retro' resurgence?
>>169699090
treants who rush aghs and tree up the JUNGLERS first should get shot on site
GET EYES IN THE LANES SO YOU OWN THE MAP LITERALLY EVERYTIME YOU USE ULT
one ult = all lanes pushed, instead you go 'lmao team look at me im taking literally ALL the farm away from you guys xxdd'
worst part is when i see treants put eyes in our OWN jungle first, basically vacuuming everything for everyone except the enemy team
>>169699090
wtf are you doing idiot?
You're stealing your teams farm
>>169700103
>based kuro DLF stance
>matu and miracle looking like they wana fuck
>gh looking at his pho.. empty hand
Liquid a cute
>enemy so farmed that shrine doesn't even matter
>>169700396
>dick loving faggot stance
u wot
>>169699601
u bought a shit rig kid
>>169700110
I was so disappointed when I learned that this chick doesn't have a penis
>>169700319
>>169700390
i only put eyes in our own jungle because for about 15 minutes we were being aggressively pushed in
otherwise I always prioritize planting my eyes in the enemy jungle first
>>169700239
>the
>witcher
>3
>>>>>>>>good
>>169700628
though the point about planting eyes in lanes to keep them constantly pushed as opposed to the jungle is a new concept to me-- I'll try it out
>>169700759
isnt every game like this nowadays tho?
https://www.perspectiveapi.com/
let's see how toxic your allchat is /d2g/
>>169700759
>dota
>>>>>>good
>cherrypicked_gif.webm
>>169700932
Doturd is the only exception. And maybe Lords of Shadow
>>169701271
>>169700954
just question marking is more triggering
>>169700112
But is he fat?
>>169700759
looks like dota and darksouls
>>169700954
clearly has flaws
>>169701475
latinos eat shit ton of fast food because it's cheaper than normal food. And he doesn't seem like someone who exercises.
>>169701620
>sentry
>not ward
It's cheaper and lasts longer.
>>169701715
they can be out of stock too
>>169700954
>Kike
>39%
>hitler did nothing wrong
>45%
Nice
>>169701770
everyone knows that the jews are evil
>>169700954
>>169695587
No, it was anon who was on 8 lose stream or something
>>169699652
Oh ok, well i just hope it will help you somehow and that youll improve like so
>>169702150
Things Dota should steal from LoL next:
>All chat mute
>No integrated voice chat
>>169703149
get out
>>169703149
you can mute all chat though
>>169703359
you can also set voice chat volume levels now
effectively enabling muting of all voice comms
>>169702150
fucking Kyle
>tfw you will never play cliffjungle Invoker again
they should have made to roch spots at each end of the river and have him walk back and fourth.
>to
two*
>>169704484
walking? nah, make him teleport and work just like runes every five minutes even if he is in combat (spawn every 10)
>tfw rosh on 5%hp, teleports and then the enemy team gets it
memes
>>169704215
6.88 map was the comfiest, why did they have to gut the entire map for this shit patch
>>169703512
"sorry i have music"
>buy battle pass
>internet dies less than two weeks later
>roommates never get it fixed
>finally moving to a new place today
i miss dota but i'm afraid to lose
>>169705973
Can't you, like, fix your own internet?
>>169706031
i'm just renting a room
>>169699263
At 4.2k the enemy autist supports will get qblade and gem the second i get aghs
>>169703512
Nah, then people keep using it and I might miss out on stuff. And if I keep it on I risk being cyka'd down by some retard and/or bullied
>>169692659
It looks bad, and most importantly, completely out of place. Dota 2 initially had a really strong aesthetic style but that's gone for good now.
I'm just starting and is the optimal minimap setup to have the colored arrows and press alt whenever you want to see which hero it actually is?
>>169707809
there is absolutely nothing of value to be said over mic that they cant repeated using chat wheel
>>169707943
Exactly. But if people talk instead of using it then I'll miss out. So just remove the darn thing.
>>169703149
Surrender vote and runes.
>>169703512
You've been able to do that for at least 3 years.
>>169708085
This. I miss concede vote from HoN so much.
>>169708181
i dont miss cc@15 spam after fb at all
>>169708252
>>169708252
Should I just keep track of which heroes are which colors then?
/our guy/ forsen is streaming
>>169708181
Did someone say HoN
>>169708565
So I just shouldn't use the minimap then?
>>169708514
alliance should just pick him up tbqhwyf
HoN was fucking garbage I'm glad Dota killed it
>>169708659
It's just a shame Dota didn't understand it was supposed to kill all MOBAs before turning the blade on itself.
>tfw you could change weather effects in wc3 dota
>>169699090
I fucking love when that happens and the enemy team doesnt bother to deward/doesnt have good tree cutters.
when the fuck is the topless mod going to be able to be used again valve you fucking nerds
>>169708920
It also failed quite miserably at killing HoN, since 7.00 tripled its playercount
>>169709157
>going from 1 to 3 concurrent players
did the range on euls use to be much longer?
>>169709157
source?
>unranked match
>plays support and do support things
>won, waiting for someone to say "commend support" on post-game chat
>no one said anything
>disappointed, queue for another game
What does phoenix level 25 talent mean?
>+2 Supernova Hit Count
>>169709420
Completely anecdotal, I had this picture of the playerbase from last year around this time, and now the peak players are around 60k+
>>169710589
people need to land two more attacks to break your egg
>>169710292
>unranked match
who cares
>>169710642
To be honest I'm tempted to try HoN out now that Dota's gone down the shitter.
What's their Meepo analogue like?
Anon i told you to use a condom! Now what do we do?
>>169710980
they dont have one
>>169711076
Do they have bots so I can practice before I start actually playing?
>look at HoN forums
>It's like a /d2g/ thread
>just complaints about Servers, Dead Game Threads, and BRs on NA servers
maybe we should switch games guys, we have a lot in common with HoN
>>169711590
yes
HoN chills get the fuck OUT
reminder to do at least 20 mins of cardio a day dotards!
>>169711750
what's good about it compared to dota
>>169711076
Well that's lame. How's their business model? They've gone through several iterations so I don't know what it's like anymore. Are all the heroes free?
It's like looking into a mirror
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?592342-New-Ranking-System-Ruined-The-Game-(More-Than-It-Already-Was)
>>169711628
HoN players have good mechanics, the same could not be said for dota2 players.
>>169711924
It's not 7.00.
>>169711924
nothing in its current form, at one point it was a truer representation of wc3 dota
if you dislike memefight you will hate hon
>>169711937
f2p with skins
any benefits you received from owning the game originally are moot
>>169712068
>HoN players have good mechanics
then why is ppd the worst mechanical pro since i don't even know who?
>>169712358
1 bad egg in a basket of dozens
>>169712358
n0tail is hontrash and he's the most mechanically skilled player in the scene right now
>>169712358
>ppd has bad mechonics
defensive supports are generally hard to play, just to let you know
>>169712061
Whats the new ranking system there now? Lego legends/sc tiers??
>>169711924
turn rate isnt trash
heroes that are actually fun to play
no shrine garbage
meta isnt locked in stone retard memefight shitbox
>this general
J U S T
this is now a HoN general
all these people shilling for a dead game
>>169711857
Reminder to post 20 pictures of Windrunner every thread!
>>169699703
you get more from maxing sun ray than dive honestly
dive gives you like...damage but nothing more
sun ray scales way better
>>169712716
>>169712716
Someone? Please..
>>169714051
tier system, more like lol
>talking about HoN
>thread is alive
>s-stop talking about a ded gaem!
>thread dies
almonds
sc2 is literally less dead than hon
/scv/ ww@ ?????????
>>169715174
t. excalipoor
>>169712061
writing "heroes of newerth" in twitch and look at the few losers that still play that game is one of the saddest experiences on the internet.
>>169715227
>aui was a literal shit tier sc2 pro
>won a TI
hmmmm really makes you think dotards, really does indeed
>>169714770
Which is surprising when you think about it, because watching a game die should be more interesting than an already dead game.
go make a hon general then nerds, see how that goes
>>169715603
I'd post in it off cd just to make it look more alive so I can make fun of you dotords
>>169715695
the ol' /lolg/ tactics
smart
>>169715695
ok
>>169708181
Yeah I miss people going emoafk and spamming cc, great times
is this forsen guy an actual lol player or
>>169716029
he's a pro HoN player
i have no doubt he'll be back to playing the superior game in a few days
>>169716321
In the old days we'd have some kind of controversy to talk about right now, like players backstabbing each other and getting kicked off teams, or some envy blog about getting scammed. Thanks to reddit though nothing interesting happens anymore. Was there even a player shuffle after the last Major?
>>169716029
Worse, a former MemeStone player
>>169716981
>doto ooga reddit booga
>>169716981
coL
prodota
vgJ
all need to open qualify for kiev
>Have keybinds for leveling abilities/stats pre 7.00
>Fucking hate control clicking to level shit
>Now too comfortable with it to go back
Icefrog is playing 5D backgammon, holy shit. Is there an easier way to level talents though?
>>169717793
>>169718317
Yeah I know they patched it back in, but now I'm used to CTRL and actually find it faster than before.
>>169718957
they added ability to keystroke talents
>game is going well
>we start falling off
>notice jugg built Bfury deso and daedalus
>>169705179
or have him clearly walk into a cave that you cna't go in
>>169720659
m8 you should be able to go in the two caves, two caves one rosh for mindgames and if you fuck up your timing you get punished
>>169720290
Why the fuck do people build Bfury on jugg? he farms plenty fast already.
>>169720290
Well, the shame is, it doesn't sound good on paper.
I could get behind Bfury, AC and Deso. Or Bfury, AC and Mjollnir.
Tripple Rightclick just sounds bad on a melee hero that gets kited.
>>169721762
so he can farm faster
>>169721762
FREE splash on omni
HoN>Dota
Smite>HoN
>>169722356
is there some kind of quickbuy function in HoN
tell me there is, the shop is driving me fucking mental
>>169721762
On the old map, it was possible to clear the entire jungle with Brown Boots, Bfury and Yasha. Maybe stack the last camp.
It also solves his regen problems for mana(mostly).
Since then you got:
1. Crit on quelling(!)
2. Quelling on Bfury(!)
Here is the thing: Mjollnir gives you more DPS and farm speed, since it scales against the BAT unlike most heroes.
It also gives you more bonus attacks during Omnislash, since you need more than 350 attackspeed to attack for each Slash.
>>169722615
jug is just a shitty master yee
>>169722710
Is that because Yee's spin is a skillshot, or for some other reason?
>>169722710
you are a shitty master yee
>>169722615
>mjollnir...gives you bonus attacks during omni slash
spotted the ruse
Lyralei is my GF!
>>169723270
Good job posting the picture where she looks like a cracwkhore!
>>169723557
stop bullying gingers!
>>169696882
They also know when to stand up for themselves.
>>169723180
isnt that right tho? more attacks =/= more jumps
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Juggernaut
>>169723180
Hes right tho, you can still aa during omni
>>169721762
Relic from when you had to farm on carry heroes, and not just get 1 fighting item and 5man all the towers
>csgo > dotards 2
also is rtc curating zai's music?
WHY DO PEOPLE GET SHADOW BLADE FIRST OVER BLINK?!
WHO IS TEACHING THESE PEOPLE THAT SHADOW BLADE IS BETTER THAN BLINK IN ANY SITUATION?
HOW INSTANT INITIATION EVER WORSE THAN JUST GOING INVIS?
>>169725665
if they're against a PA a silver edge can be worth it
>>169725665
But anon, blink dagger is 2,1k and literally gives zero (0) stats, meanwhile ultimate orb costs the same and gives you FREE +10 to EACH stat.
How is this even a contest?
>>169725831
Then you just get MKB instead of breaking evasion for like 3 seconds, if you disable her crit your blademail will do less damage
>lol really cool of you to buy courier ^__^ <3
>glhf
>15 minutes later
>*sells items spams sentries and screams in russian
Arcana Legion not even once.
>>169725665
SHES MY WIFE ILL BUILD HER HOW I WANT TO!
>>169726062
never ever trust people who use emoticons
they turn to hostilities at the drop of a hat
>>169726207
You mean you're her wife, right?
>>169725665
@purgegamers
>play support
>get most assists
>play safalane carry
>still highest assists
the support life choose me
>>169725665
Because people are greedy. The LC is greedy because going shadow blade means she has a slightly higher chance of winning the 1 skillpoint duel solo vs the enemy safelane carry, because she isn't going to do something stupid like rely on her teammates for damage.
Shadow blade also counts on the enemy being extremely greedy. Lower chance of dedicated supports in a game, lower chance of any supports spamming sentries and dust becuase muh aghanims, lower chance of cores having DUST WHEN THEY FUCKING SHOULD WTF, WHAT IF THE SUPPORT GETS KILLED, NOW YOU HAVE NO DETECTION VS WEAVER/LC. YOU HAVE 9 SLOTS YOU CUNTFUCK STORM SPIRIT, THE THIRD DUSTLESS GANK ISN'T GOING TO GO ANY DIFFERENTLY.
Silver edge is near mandatory vs obnoxious passives though, like PA. That's preferably after you have blink and a decent chunk of duel damage from enemy supports.
>>169722615
i was thinking about this, people usually go yasha, manta and then maelstorm
but going maelstorm first and then yasha manta into mjollnir is probably faster
maelstrom just needs to be fucking nerfed actually is great on any hero and it's one of the strongest "first itens" you could get due to how much it speeds up your farm
>>169726518
shes my mommy too!
>>169722615
The only time you need battlefury on jugg now is Vs PL or Meepo, maybe CK as well, and I guess brood, and possibly naga
>valve will never allow us to know what they put in these 100/150mb updates
>tfw it's probably cosmetics
It's too bad nothing else remotely exciting has happened in my games recently, just misery and MMR loss
>>169729004
Also I'm pretty sure I got 4 crits in a row there
>>169729004
didn´t deny the ranged creep
2/10
>tfw you haven't played in months
>tfw you reinstall, queue for a game, hit accept, go take a shit and by the time you get back to the computer you've been randomed Lycan
>take him top lane as dire but apparently that's not how you play the game anymore so you walk your furry ass down to bot lane
>4stack of portugese shitters mad as fuck, mute them all
>proceed to farm my ass off and push towers and rax, winning us the game
>talk shit
I fucking hate dota
>>169729267
he got the cs and didn't deny because no one would be there to get xp
>>169692138
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAH
>>169729463
I thought to kill the enemy creep at the last second so I wouldn't risk wasting an omni on it
>>169729443
you should just be glad you were given the doggy of knocking doors and winning games
>>169729004
what settings do you use
i want more fps
>>169729595
>actually laughing at the way somebody looks
what are you 12?
>>169729740
Settings in Dota? or for Webms?
>>169729832
in dota, i mean
>>169725665
Because heroes that have instant escapes exist. Usually Blink is the better choice but if you're playing against something like Ember Spirit/Slark SB is the better choice.
whenever i use hurricane pike on enemy i imagine everything in slow motion as i we both slowly pushed away from each other then i imagine myself holding 2 magnum with 2 bullets each as i shoot the enemy with my normal attacks
pls dont call me nerd
>>169729832
gib ffmpeg webm settings
>>169729969
How? shadow blade takes time to get your duel off, blink is instant, the enemy should have no time to react to blink duel
>>169729949
I'm just glad the CPU performance issues seem to have been fixed, only thing I have turned up is textures
>>169730290
I just use webm for retards
either 1280x720 1000-1500 kbps for short clips
or 960x540 with lower bit rate for longer clips
>>169730315
maybe you duel out of invis instead of attacking
>>169730315
because of the casttime, you are invisible until the casttime ends, at least I think that's how it works
>>169730787
Still takes you a few seconds to get there after turning invis, with blink you just get within 1200 units and they're dueled and done
>>169729759
t. loda
You have 5750 mmr. You want to win 10 games in a row but you can only play the same offlane hero 10 times. Which hero do you pick?
>>169730748
uuuhhh dotards?
>>169731135
>>169731080
3k bracket?
>>169730906
>>169729969
actually this ^ guy said everything
also you're more likely to be under enemy's vision with blink dagger cause no one randomly puts sentry together with a ward, except for dewarding purpose.
why can't Valve make good cosmetics?
>>169731375
4k
>>169731482
I LOVE TA!
h-hey guys.. p-pick me.. I'm good, promise..
>>169731265
we need something relevant to talk about
>>169731651
>More than one point in windrun early.
>Itemizing for one point in focus fire.
>No powershot.
>That entire build when you know you're facing a centaur in lane and want to kill him.
Where do you find these kinds of people.
>>169732396
What if we talk about the game?
>785k peak
JESUS.
>>169733317
doomposters and gameshitters really need to go, they're making the conversation about the actual game sounds irrelevant (lololol 2017 and still playing DEAD game DEAD thread).
Is magnus the white man's offlaner?
>>169733901
Today, all the sub 18 peruvian kids are sying goodbye to Summer vacations
>>169734304
>tfw can't queue in the afternoons
although they probably all skip school anyways
>>169699318
He seems like a nice guy. I like new liquid
>>169734752
why does matu seem like a complete mess of a human being and an alpha at the same time? Is this just what being finnish is all about?
>>169734752
with finns you win
>>169700103
They don't call him matumba for nothing
>>169734942
Yes
I swear to FUCKING GOD if I see ANOTHER FUCKING WEEB in this thread FROM HERE ON it's going to be 1939 all over again
>>169735191
I am a weeb. EE strim when
>>169699652I just took a look at your dotabuff since it was till open in my browser and i forgot about it, good job in your last game
>>169735191
Anime makes you better at dota
>>169735191
something bothering you, friend?
>>169734752
same person?
>>169735453
>>169735372
>>169735354
hey friends, perhaps we can talk about anime in my new anime friendly club house :^)
>>169735462
yes
>tfw there's a tornado in my area right now and I need to evacuate
goodbye dotards
if i don't comeback, just know that I always loved you
>>169735560
>>169735453
>>169735372
>>169735354
well that is the wrong image :^)))))))))))))
>>169735570
how does he do it
>>169735605
k.. keep me posted
>It's a people doesn't keep paused the game when you go to the bathroom episode
>>169735721
is this the gulag?
>>169735605
May Gustav protect you
>>169735605
You will be fine anon, i know it!
What if Bulldog, Loda and Akke team up again and Alliance wins TI7?
>>169736425
but where is the captain?
>>169736425
I can't imagine a better indicator for how braindead the game has become if Loda won something of relevance in 2017
>>169736425
Bulba will win TI before that happens
>say i'm going to commend someone
>dont
Anime is for gays
>>169713467
look like 40 y/o crack whore
where is the WR drinking wine gif?
>>169736956
>say I'll buy wards
>don't
>had a dream that singsing was streaming
>wake up
>no stream
>>169737886
singsing's gf (bf)?
>>169738223
adelaide
>>169736813
Don't you miss the cocky tweets that start coming when Loda wins something?
>>169738896
why is this in reverse?
>>169738896
why is this in reverse?
>>169739048
it's the resident member of association_uzbekistan:
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/146629043
>blade mail can now be used while stunned/disabled
fixed
>>169739298
fuck off axe
>used to like dota
>only come to /d2g/ to shit post
hey gulag, i keep asking every time, but status on:
1)heroes
2)teams
3)players
4)streams
5)meta gaymes
>>169739576
HoN>Dota
>>169739576
>to shit post
you must be really special to think what you are doing to all 100 people that come here is shit posting.
>>169739639
I've been playing HoN for the last year inplace of dota, i actually enjoyed it more since no one all talks shit, everygame is 50/50 to win and every hero is just like i remember from the old days ;~;
>>169739857
based frogposters
>75 U N I Q U E P O S T E R S
>dota, and thus d2g, has finally died
Kalle?
>textposters
Post some exquisite dotard memes
>>169740629
Always knew he was a faggot.
That picture of his "girlfriend" from the true sight doc? Only 1 picture he shows all the time. The same picture.
Nigga made a pact with his friend at the carnival to take a couple picture and pretend when he gets famous for dota.
>>169740726
>>169740726
>>169740829
>>169740726
>>169740726
>>169740726
does anyone have that SK comic where he talks about existing for 15 minutes and getting his Blink?
Guess who
>>169741361
jakiro
>>169741361
phoenixbloodseeker
>>169740726
>>169740726
>>169741461
>>169741534
>>169741792
But that's viable you moron
>>169741792
wtf i love jugg now
>>169741792
looks really fuckingfun, to bad this game is so shit you'll get lowprio for attempting it
>>169740829
Yea no, that nigga gay.
>>169741792
which position did he play him? mid or safelane?
that looks amazing
>>169742309
safe
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3027333810
>play ranked
>dude suddenly disconnects after 6 minutes
>we wait 2 minutes then continues
>he gets an abandon
>we lost 25 mmr
wow what a great game you have there
>our LC keeps crying about not having any vision
>literally one of those players that thinks wards are only useful if you see the enemy in them like 80% of the time, has no understanding of reading the map
>last fight of the game
>100%
>pure
>fucking
>vision on the enemy
>lc has a dd
>jumps in
>duels the fucking 4k~ hp pudge
>doesn't kill him
>we get raped by invoker
how DFOES THSI SHIT HAPPEN
>>169742442
you're so massively shit at dota you get queued with mouthbreathers this stupid
>storm literally killing the internet on the east coast
fuck you god
>>169742613
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/d0/Ss_laugh_06.mp3
>>169742442
>alch mid vs ta
>daytime
>ping ta has a haste rune
>alch walks uphill
>ta attacks him until he dies
>alch starts spamming NEED WARDS and buys wards for the rest of the game
look at me i'm a gulagian *is retarded*
http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/3000-669/DOTA-2-The-Comic-Collection-HC
shhiiiieeeettt lads
>mfw arguing with someone then suddenly muting him when you are losing
can't lose if you can't see their reply
>>169743765
you're weak
>>169743765
you already lost by playing dota :^)
STEAM IS DOWN
DOTARDS HELP
WHAT DO I DO
>>169744345
I've been playingSTALKER Call of Miseryand haven't touched steam in days
Any other 5k+ MMR CK players here?
Between Echo Sabre, Armlet, and Maelstrom, I don't really know which item to go.
>>169744443
ring of repick and if you reach late game then buy urn of abandon
>>169744059
woah, who's the cute anime girl?
>>169742427
>guy on the other team gets an abandon
>lol ez +25 mmr
>our carry and only physical damage disconnects every 15 seconds 10 minutes into the game
>i'm playing undying against meepo and slark
JUST
>>169745125
>buy ghost scepter and force staff
What seems to be the problem?
>>169744443
Purge says it's armlet
i'm staying at school over spring break and i ordered a pizza two days ago
should i do it again tonight or not eat anything at all
>>169745247
>keep is mad about me raping him in lane and he mana leaks me whenever i'm on his screen
>somehow forcestaff and ghost scepter can let a undying carry against slark+meepo
just not dying isn't enough
>no gangplank
doturds?
>>169746509
https://clyp.it/hdyeg1ur
>>169746596
kunkka wish he was half as good as gangplank
>>169746765
cringe
>>169746831
THIS IS NOT AXE
>posters: 82
>>169744443
off by one
>>169737553
STOP MAKING FUN OF MY WIFE!i dont have that one
>>169737553
this one?
>>169740726
>>169739857
You're not wrong, I think you won this argument.
>literally billions of offtopic images in this thread
>janny cunt deletes mine only
Oh wow...
>>169748494
its because no one cares about you browsing the lag, what happens when you listen to music or anything else that happens in your shit life.
>>169748767
But that doesn't mean you have to delete them though.
I don't have the archive feature, so I forget what I posted if you eliminate my posts...
>no esports in sight
What hero should I play if
I hate my life
Always lose MMR
Have to first pick
Dissapointed my parents
>>169748494
>mfw I got banned last week for describing the physical features of a dota hero
>>169749139
"In the magnetic and ether touched lands of the far south a perpetual storm rages. In this strange, barren land, only an isolated tribe of nomads know to exist. These nomads worship the very nether storms that plague the land, and born out of this bizarre energy and intense faith, a chaotic god emerges. Sensing the calamity of the approaching battle of the ancients, the infant deity imbues his most trusted prophet with avataric powers and sends him to quell the forces of order and good that impede his growth. Wielding the ether touched powers of lightning, magnetism, and the ability to reverberate an exact duplicate of himself into being, Arc Warden is a force to be reckoned with."
>>169749160
u better not be having impure thoughts about my wife!
>>169749139
The post-reporter hero XD
>>169749139
Antimage
Legion Commander
Monkey King
Rubick
Weaver
>>169692416
>>169695464
>>169710292
>>169723692
>>169730183
>>169731657
>>169735354
>>169735605
>>169736232
>>169737054
>>169737886
>>169738276
>>169747981
>>169748494
Imagine what fucking her eye socket would feel like
>>169750307
like fucking a cloud or an angel!
>>169750471
just tp out
I've always wanted to be Tresdin's squire. I always enjoy fantasizing about entering the fountain with her after a long battle and slowly removing her armor, starting at the helmet and making my way down to her boots. The embarrassment I feel doing this in front of other female heroes only adds to the allure of the situation. She sits down on a stool and commands me to kneel down and remove her boots one at a time. "Is that a boner?" Rylai says. Akasha licks her lips, Rylai giggles, and Shendelzare glares at me. I try to cover it up out of embarrassment, but Tresdin kicks my hands away. "You haven't finished yet." I don't understand because I had already removed her armor, but after she gives me a look I realize that she wants me to remove her shoes as well. I take off her shoes and reveal her gorgeous feet, surprisingly soft despite her being a strong warrior, and extremely sweaty. "Lick the sweat off my feet, squire," she commands me. I hesitate for a moment and look over to the other girls. They all start giggling at me and whispering. Then I feel Tresdin's foot forced into my mouth with the other one covering my nose. The smell and taste of her sweaty feet causes my raging boner to grow even more. "Alright, squire, stand up and remove your clothes." Although embarrassed, I take all my clothes off. Suddenly I feel my position swapped with that of Shendelzare. Now I'm lying beneath Akasha and Rylai, who had both taken their boots off, and were pressing their feet against my member. "No," Tresdin said, "He's mine." She runs over and gets on top of me. It's only now that I realize that she's holding Aghanim's Scepter, and I understand that nobody will be able to interfere with us. Her technique gets more and more intense until I am unable to hold back. I cum inside her pussy with the force of a hundred megacreeps. She gets off of me, and as I lay there quivering in pleasure she gets dressed and begins to chuckle. "Only 9 inches? Pathetic."
Playing against heroes like Meepo and Timbersaw makes me wanna gouge my eyes out.
>>169749139
this bastard
>>169750106
wait can janitor actually see the poster's ip or what.
>>169751869
no shit you think 4 chans mods and janitors just let in all this traffic without any means to actually moderate it?
>>169751869
I can see your IP right now you little bitch
I want to be assassinated by Mortred. But this wouldn't be an ordinary assassination. I fantasize about her falling in love with me right before she's supposed to kill me. The thought of being killed by my true love turns me on so much that I pop a chubby in the middle of the assassination attempt. Mortred blushes and drops her weapon. She walks over to me and puts her hand right on my groin, rubbing it up and down. "Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?" She whispers into my ear. I don't even speak french but I understand her intent and nod my head. She kneels down and unzips my dick, revealing a throbbing hot meat rod. She wraps her hand around it, and at first I object because there's no lube, but then I realize that she maxed out blur. Using her blurriness as lube, she gives me the best handjob of my life. Then, she suddenly uses phantom strike to stroke my dick even faster. As she gets more and more intense, her PRNG starts increasing more and more as well, until finally, at the moment of climax, she delivers a critical strike to my dick, and I die from sheer pleasure. In my final moments, Mortred stands over my quivering body and says, "It is an honor to be chosen for death."
>>169692138
Friendly Reminder that if anyone picks any of the following in professional play you should bet against them:
>Windrunner
>Gyrocopter
>Phantom Lancer
>Tinker
>Sven
>>169742403
this is the fucking best
>>169752385
l-lewd
I have a confession to make. I dream every night about Mirana and Luna. You just know that they're passionate lovers that will do anything for each other. I imagine that Mirana is quiet and shy and Luna is fierce and outgoing, but in bed they always swap roles. Mirana is secretly the dominant partner, and Luna is a submissive slut. Every night I dream that Mirana ties Luna up tightly and uses one of her arrow heads to tear neat holes in her spandex. Then she forces Luna to take off her shoes with nothing but her mouth and worship her perfect feet, one in her mouth and the other rubbing Luna's pink pussy. Then she switches off and makes Luna taste her own juices while the other continues rubbing Luna into a pure ecstatic orgasm. Then Mirana flips Luna over and fucks her raw with a strap-on while Nova and Sagan fuck her in the mouth and booty-hole. Luna orgasms over and over and lets out screams and moans of joy, until everyone cums one last time in unison.
Every day I come on here and see people talking about "Semen Demons" and asking me who she is. Well, for me, it's Queen of Pain. I've always fantasized about Akasha's beautiful perfect ass. I wish I could've been the original king that summoned her. I can hardly even imagine the things she'd do. Maybe she'd tie me up and take off her stuffy red boots and force me to smell the aroma. Then, while I'm distracted, she'd give me a hard kick in the balls. "Aw, does that hurt?" She'd say to me even though the act already made me orgasm. Then she'd kiss me and use the aphrodesiacs in her saliva to make me hard again, only to kick me in the balls again. When she'd finally had enough, she'd shove me over and press her sweet ass against my face while shoving beads down my urethra. "How do you like this?" She'd ask me, and I'd reply with muffled groans. Because of a special ring she put around my cock I wouldn't even be able to cum until she allowed me to, until the sensations grew to be so strong that I'd writhe around in ecstasy. Every second she presses her ass against my face harder and harder and strokes my dick harder and harder until finally she rips the beads out and my manmilk spills everywhere.
is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.
Sometimes I like to think about Lina and Rylai's sibling rivalry. I think about it a lot actually. Where does it come from? I've come to the conclusion that Lina and Rylai were both in love with the same person at one point. They fought over him a lot, and eventually they decided to settle the matter once and for all. They pushed him over and pulled his pants down, revealing his throbbing 10 inch penis. Then they held a contest. Whoever could satisfy him better with their feet would get to have him. Was it going to be Lina's soft, hot feet, or Rylai's petite, cold feet? They took turns rubbing his towering member, Lina's hot feet thawing and Rylai's cold feet cooling it back down, until eventually they began fighting again. Now both feet were on him. The icy-hot double footjob was too much--he exploded and covered their feet with hot, sticky manmilk. Since both of them made him cum, they couldn't tell who the winner was, and they once again erupted into a fierce battle.
>be 4.5k
>we have offlane centuar
>he is flaming other people for not initiating
>he blinks and stomps, and uses ult to run away
make this stop
>>169752601
this is the best one
Visage is the best hero in the game
fite me.
Which's the right way to use this?
>>169753869
His birds die to fucking everything
>>169753457
here's something to polish your copypasta
>>169754447
they fucking killed visage in 7.0
it's like EVERYONE played him and decided to make him weaker
christ fuck valve is truly retardedm, fucking killing UNDERPLAYED heroes instead of slark and shit
im so mad i cant even
>>169754621
>slark
???
>>169754431
There is non. Is a high risk item. If you pick it at a wrong time it will delay your items.
>>169753869
if your purpose is to feed the entire enemy team, yeah it´s the best one.
>>169754431
Do not buy it to get more gold.
>play rubi
>verse luna
>luna uses ult, kills nobody
>i steal eclipse, kill luna and dazzle
rubi is gonna get nerfed so bad.
>>169755049
if you die you must be 1k
it's a literal "stay back and nuke" hero
>he's not watching the king of earth verbally eviscerate his enemies right now
Shaking my head, desu desu fampai-chan
>>169754696
>hero doesn't particularly need items to do well until late game
>buy midas
Not hard.
Why is max mana leak force staff kotl against strength cores soo much fun?
>>169754497
s-sauce..? anon
>type POO IN LOO in universe stream
>permanently banned
>mfw
LMAO this poo in loo thing is a verified meme now
>>169756950
>type nigger in starladder_en strim
>permanently banned
Why?
>>169758064
racist against Slavs
>>169752601
i want to kiss POTM!
post sluts
Hey guys I have a small Dota 2 YouTube channel and I just uploaded highlights from my Road to 5K Stream. Not trying to make money because all my videos have copyright strikes but if you want to check any of my videos out I'm trying to grow my channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAJmx-yATTzcI5p-BUMEDoA
>>169760090
>>169760090
>tfw you will never open a bottle of shaken mountain dew all over winranger's face and tummy
why even liver
>>169760090
I NEED THIS SAUCE IN MY LIFE
Literally unironically non-figuratively ded
Holy shit icefraud really shat up the game with 7.00
>>169735605
i am back home dotards
i have survived the tornado
>>169761752
wow, who's the qt mate?
>>169761752
HEY
quit posting my pictures you mongoloid
>>169762339
they aren't your pictures, avatarfagging shitskin
don't ever reply to me again
dead
>>169761752
good job strange girl
what item do you build on Dark Seer to make use of the 120 DMG talent he gets at lvl15? he has terrible AGI gain so AC or Mjolnir?
Post moments you are ashamed of
>playing safelane carry
>have to ward, contest last hits with my own teammate, control lane aggro, harass and pull the lane to prevent the offlaner from getting xp
>the support is just sitting there using his nukes to farm and auto attacking creeps
>ask him to stop
>he just ignores me and keeps "supporting"
>decided I don't want to go through this shit
>type "I hope you can carry us" and leave the lane for the jungle
>apparently that he understands and just goes afk
>gets an abandon
I'm not proud, but I'm glad it ended fast
>>169763192
echo sabre with an orb of venom
This is what happens to white women when they sleep with muslims, Bamboe has a lot to answer for...
>>169763528
>playing jungle lc
>rush agh no boots
>die a lot and get carried
>duel the 30 bloodstone stormspirit when he's at 30% hp and the entire team is hitting him
>enemy team jumps my team but everybody keeps hitting storm dealing no damage
>entire team wipes and storm survivesnot ashamed
>>169763729
BETWEEN THE ______
>Alchemist can now give aghs to the enemy.
Useless but lets him screw over LC's.
>>169760536
sfm
>posters: 98
>>169762513
Get the fuck out of my general you piece of shit.
>>169764343
New: Alchemist can now gift aghs to the enemy team
If a hero on either team ever receives two instances of alch gifted aghs, they negate each other, providing no bonuses and preventing that hero from ever benefitting from Aghs (even in their own inventory) for the rest of the game
>>169764609
i love drow ranger's face its really nice here!
Maelstrom and Hotd are pretty nice together and give good stats + dominated creep utility.
Costs a bit less the BF but however gives good dps on heroes. Camp clear it's weaker but BF is more for carries that can have the mobiltiy to abuse it's passive.
>>169766331
Not camp but minion wave clear.
>win ranked game
>lose 2 mmr
great game
>>169765381
looks like a slut to me
why do people keep playing this shit game?
>>169700592
who dat?
>>169766531
DELETE THIS!
>>169766643
It's easy to make people mad in this game
>>169766446
Pics or didn't happen.
>>169766531
>Ice/Dark
There;s nothing Dark about her at all! She's a fucking radiant hero
I hate AM, but damned if he isn't effective, hit level 25 by like 30 minutes or something, my BH was still level 14
There is also no better feeling then the enemy carry using abyssal on herself due to AM Aghs, shit is too broken
>>169766643
BecauseIs fun
Also I've been waiting forever for Ember to be op again, now I get +25 mmr every time I pick it, just yesterday I picked Ember into Viper because why the fuck not, turns out Viper was a shitter who had no idea what his hero was supossed to do and started rotating at 2 minutes in, meanwhile I freefarmed the mid lane and got bottle+veil+maelstrom at 18 minutes.
Also peruvians in my bracket don't know how to deal with Ember and just run away scared and let me do whatever the fuck I want or try to outplay me (spoiler: you beat Ember by picking a tanky hero).
Yeah, I'm not gonna stop playing now.
>>169767010
>these graphics
fucking shit skins shitting up the general again with their wooden PCs
>>169766978
>Drow Ranger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drow_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)
>>169767176
Why would I play on anything but low with high textures and 100% render scale? gotta maximize my fps
>>169767149
Honestly the same for me but the way the offlane meta for some time is I can finally pick Slardar or Centaur. I just really like those guys.
169767274
>is not able to get above 120 fps with high textures
mc fucking kill yourself my main dude.
>>169767246
Human and the Dota 2 Drows aren't the same at all.
>>169767395
I have an FX 8 core at 4.2ghz and a 480, I'd rather my GPU do little to no work and produce very little heat/power draw
Ryzen needs to hurry the fuck up
169767485
>AMD CPU or anything really.
Listen to >>169767395
>play in a cafe
>bring snacks
>play dotes
>in middle of the game, 5 enemy dead and i got hungry
>we pushed and i looked for my snack without looking
>accidentally held someone's hand beside me
>mfw
>>169767436
Next you're gonna tell me Lina the Slayer is not based on the anime character.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Inverse.
>>169767710
Anon the drow of Dota 2 share nothing with the Drow of DnD. Only name
>>169767621
Wha-what are you doing m-mr. Dotard?!
>>169767747
I wanted to prove you wrong but turn's out she isn't even an actual Drow lore-wise.
>Drow Ranger's given name is Traxex--a name well suited to the short, trollish, rather repulsive Drow people. But Traxex herself is not a Drow. Her parents were travelers in a caravan set upon by bandits, whose noisy slaughter of innocents roused the ire of the quiet Drow people. After the battle settled, the Drow discovered a small girl-child hiding in the ruined wagons, and agreed she could not be abandoned. Even as child, Traxex showed herself naturally adept at the arts they prized: Stealth, silence, subtlety. In spirit, if not in physique, she might have been a Drow changeling, returned to her proper home. But as she grew, she towered above her family and came to think of herself as ugly. After all, her features were smooth and symmetrical, entirely devoid of warts and coarse whiskers. Estranged from her adopted tribe, she withdrew to live alone in the woods. Lost travelers who find their way from the forest sometimes speak of an impossibly beautiful Ranger who peered at them from deep among the trees, then vanished like a dream before they could approach. Lithe and stealthy, icy hot, she moves like mist in silence. That whispering you hear is her frozen arrows finding an enemy's heart.
>>169767621
>i looked for my snack without looking
what
>>169767553
AMD was offering me i7 like multi-threaded performance at $100, why wouldn't I take it?
now they're offering me 6900K like performance at $329
>>169767621
Honest question here, is it common to go to internet caffes to play vidya? Here in beanerland all the caffes have 10-years old computers that can barely play a youtube video while playing solitary (because there's a high chance the computer runs on Windows XP or Vista if it's new enough).
>>169767990
Hence this post>>169767436
>>169768024
>buying 100 dollar CPU's.
Are you poor?
>>169768130
i only do it when im out for something like im too far away from home.
although, some people do it casually.
but yeah, its good if you found a right one. most of cafes have speedy internet that you can even stream, download, torrent movies etc while playing dota.
>>169768024
>$100 cpu
>for dota episode 2
hey guys im from sea 3.1k mmr.
im currently sitting at 4.2k right now after i moved to us.
i dont know if i improved or us is just quite different
Why don't people combo kotl with slardar more often
With max chakra, you can crush them again just as the first stun wears off. It's like having a refresher ravage at level 7
>>169768818
US West specifically and i mostly play tb slardar slark
>>169768858
>Implying Kotl pickers will give you managa.
>Implying he won't just spam Illuminate and fuck up the lane equilibrium.
>Impliying he won't still blame you for having shit farm despite having a babysitter.
>>169768818
wtf i love sea now
>>169766531
but is she the sluttiest doter?
is saying wew ironic?
>>169768818
SEA is objectively the hardest region to climb in
>>169768595
I do video editing and other productivity stuff
could also stream dota 2 at 720p 60fps no problem
PA is such a polarizing hero.
either she's dogshit because she doesn't crit at all or she gets a few lucky crits that turn the tide of the entire game
>>169768349
>torrent movies
holy fuck i am so glad I am not a 3rd world shit skin with brown skin that is poor as fuck with brown skin.
>>169767621
>net cafe has dotards 2
didn't know it was that popular
Can I get the basic gestalt on CK this patch?
>having to play dota with non whites
4K SEA > 5K EU > 6K NA
>>169771312
3K SA > 4K SEA > 5K EU > 9K NA
fixed
169771626
>south american brown skin thinks he and his lame country are relevant
ou do not even get a proper (You
>>169766814
>>169770948
Buy 2-3 of the following items depending on the game.
HotD
Echo Sabre
Armlet
Solar Crest
Then fight whenever your ultimate is up.
CK feels pretty stronk this patch but he still has the same problems as before.
>>169773061
same problem?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5ws0g7/ii_was_robbed_of_my_17_mmr_solo_q_mmr_counted/
>>169773076
what are those? im new and I hate chaos knight late game
>>169769410
DROW IS CUTE AND PURE! SHE IS NOT A SLUT! DELETE ALL OF UR BAD POSTS ABOUT MY WIFE RIGHT NOW!
HELLO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>169763192
echo sabre, daedelus, desolator
make it stop
>a 4k team tries to trilane
>first bloo-double kil-TRIPLE KILL
Guess the offlaner
>>169774579
axe, timber, techies
>>169774579
>hear this
>it was our sand king
>he's now level 5 and went 2-0-3
>download replay just to see what happened
>>169775007
i-is that a jojo reference?
>>169775193
>>169773197
no, i actually lost mmr. i didn't gain party mmr. i lost 2 solo mmr
>>169773235
>what are those? im new and I hate chaos knight late game
He can't farm worth a shit. He doesn't have a reliable farm accelrant or a way to indefinitely/or stay long sustain himself in a lane.
Also NEEDS attack speed to make his illustions worth a shit.
>>169774226
>original counters gets stopped by bkb
>ez to play and requires teamwork to stop
Im surprised its not higher
slardar and centaur offlane, how do I deal with this as solo support? should I just abandon the lane, tell the carry to farm jungle and leech lane and then help other lanes?
how do I deal with a slardar and centaur dual offlane as solo support? should I abandon lane and get the carry to farm jungle (maybe help by stacking) and then going to (lets say) help trilane bot?
Picture this, slarder AND centaur dual offlane as a support.
What do?
DOTARDS, have you ever came across a centaur and slardar offlane whilst being a support? Really stumped as to how I should approach this
if i'm a centaur or slardar in the offlane, what should i do?
>>169776609
>>169776785
>>169776884
>>169776968
What the fuck has changed since about a month ago? Why is it so fucking hard to get a win in the 4k bracket now? I was up to 3900MMR a month ago, now I'm back down to 3700, why is this game pure torture?
Hey guys im deaf, can someone tell me what does centaur ult sound like?
>aggressive as fuck abaddon shows up to my safe lane and starts smacking my carry
>try to zone him out
>he smacks me
>kills us both
How do I counter this?
>>169777164
I can barely manage to break even right now
as a carry player, me and my support face a centaur and slardar dual lane, a single tear comes from my eye as i inevitably see him dead on my fucking screen while he feeds firstblood, how should i act under these circumstances
>>169777658
kill yourself
>>169777658
build fighting items and get ready to rumblequit and download dark souls it's 20x more fun
>>169696185
i was braindead using dotapicker yesterday, it suggested lycan against bloodseeker
>>169776480
>stay near T2
>>169777208
it's like slardar's but louder
>>169777164
your skills are at 3700 mmr level
Monkey King is so shit.
>>169751753
>Timbersaw
Why is he even a thing? He's either batshit useless or extremely dominating in the lane he's in
>>169779623
He honestly needs a buff. He just doesn't win games, but you sure do have fun using timberchain like a maniac.
our girl ruru and some chink legends starring in this retarded doter movie
tinyurl dot com zwo28zh
>>169779824
He's pretty good as is
Any more and he'll hit a level were they will nerf him to pretty bad level.
>>169779623
glad you realized some heroes counter others and there is no 'best hero'
When is singsing going to reveal his team?
>>169781246
when you post feet
>>169781379
wtf
>>169781503
kill yourself you stupid avatarfag
Is Bulldog the european Mason?
The magic is dead, I guess. I don't know if it was Valve's fault, Icefrog's fault or if DoTA's time has just passed. Whatever the case, this game is dying and I can't think of a single thing that would save it.
I thought that the whole custom games thing would at least delay the inevitable like it did for WC3, but thanks to the way Valve designed it I don't see that happening.
Many a wasted hour in this, sad to see it in this state.
>>169727328
just read the changes on dota wiki
>>169782662
>Whatever the case, this game is dying and I can't think of a single thing that would save it.
Rollback to patches between 6.60 and 6.80
>>169782662
more heroes. duh.
>>169782662
>I can't think of a single thing that would save it.
dumb doomposter
>>169782662
bringing back mods and I'm serious about it.
>no hats mode
>naked waifus mode
>anime mod
>warcraft dota heroes skin mod
>>169781503
can i at least pat your head?
>>169783276
o-okay
Goodmorning Dota 2, I have to draft a CV and I'm kind of nervous
>>169783990
Good morning. I suggest you skip drafting that CV and play dota instead.
>>169783990
i wish you the best mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRhn0qqQsY
Who /teamliquid/ here?
WE SMART
WE FRIENDLY
WE LOYAL
WE SG ESPORTS FINNA TAKE YO QUALIFIER SPOT
>dead game
>>169783254
if i could hide pa's cloak i would instantly buy the arcana
>>169782662
>doomposting
WHAT IS THIS? 2014?
>>169782662
>I got bored
>that means EVERYONE IS BORED
Children as young as 6 don't even do that anymore
>>169782662
it's because HoN is better
>>169785320
>HoN poster woke up
>>169785320
Based pinoy
from a deep-cut notch
the red sap flows
>almost a day
>still 500 replies
JUST
>>169785256
No it just means plebshits aren't bored, have fun with your hero brawler filled with nothing but 14 year old south americans like yourself.
this game is so terrible
redpill me on anti-mage
>>169786018
>>169786496
>>169786770
>>169787053
>this dedicated doomposter
>>169786496
we're so fucking dead lads
d2g - scv 2.0
>>169787369
i'm not a doomposter
i just wanted to post treant's first blood line
>>169787457
ummm first of all /scv/ is very much alive
>>169787369
I'm not a doomposter or whatever you call those faggots, I'm just sad that we are like 3-5 months left before we turn into csgo tier general(5 days=650 post)
>>169787457
My fellow starcumps. It is time for us to emerge from the shadows. Our infiltration is complete.
POST KPOP
>d2g knows that their time is short and cs:go is growing / csgog is goodd2g
>>169787627
>valve still cares more about dota than csgo
its not fair bros
>ppd quits dota
>dota dies
it is just the natural order of things
>>169787627
FPS games will always be shit compared to Dota
>>169787982
where did ppd = the mastermind meme came from? yeah sure he can pull on some good drafts but remember Pugna and Nyx?
>>169787982
Did ppd quit dota?
I wouldn't be surprised if more and more pros started quitting, to be honest, especially those that have won before.
Fact is, the game now is a shadow of what it once was.
>>169787982
>ppd was the first one smart enough to get out from the dying game
>PPD quit dota
No he didn't. RTZ, the TRUE mastermind, backstabbed him out of existence. Literally a reprogrammed Team Secret assassin that went against its controller.
>>169788509
LD was the first one to get out from this dying game and he's now conquering other games then PPD followed suit.
>>169788774
like what? smash? lmao
>>169788609
>`backstabbed` into being CEO of your company
rmyt
>>169788847
>like smash
you're underestimating our jew
>>169789181
>he's moved onto the goodesport
based
>>169788315
Where ever other meme comes from. Some dick has photoshop and pushes his shitty meme on reddit or 4chan. You can make a meme too if you werent so brain dead.
>>169788435
yeah, he moved to gwent.
>sven guide doesn't suggest buying daedalus
how did this trash get voted to 90%
>>169790709
>daedalus
stay 2k
>>169791453
daedalus is the heart and soul of sven
it's like not building orchid on clinkz
>>169791612
lmao
Can anyone give me some HoN tips?
>>169791878
Learn how to speak the native languages of pinoys
>>169723180
>>169726863
Maelstrom still has the issue where its shit on most melee heroes, because you need regen to jungle.
For every hero that don't need jungle regen, its insane.
Meanwhile on every single ranged hero? Best fucking item, unless you need a active spell item to do shit.
At the least the item doesn't scale well, unless the hero has a native crit.
>>169725665
Low mmr = No sentries & observers = free ganking
High MMR = Sentries and Wards = enemies will countergank you, or bait duel into saves
Here is the thing: Purge is right about lategame pickoffs with Shadowblade. But its far more valueable to Blink Duel 90% of the game and then get a late Shadowblade if you need to do that. Or Smoke into Ward into Blink Into Duel. In Theory.
>>169790709
Why build Daeedalus when you can build BloodThorn
>waiting for the thread to reach 730 so I can make a new thread instead of that tripfaggot
>596 replies
I'm sorry bros I think I can't make it till 730 replies, I'm really sleepy.
how old were you when you grew out of CLQ?
>>169777546
Ward his jungle
>>169792097
Lets see:
-Thorn gives you attackspeed, which means it gives you more damage increase than Daed ever gives you, since it scales against itself twice
-Solves the mana issues for all heroes except like Ogre
-The active is insane. 1.3 crit, disables truestrike? SILENCE? ~40% uptime?
-If you have several crits, you also roll for them on each hit. So the active gives you a extra roll on your Thorns crit, your Daed, your native crit.
And because PRNG is a thing, this means if you attack a Thorned enemy, you get more crits as well.
Do there even exist a hero which you could build Daedlus on now? Even for Ember its questionable
Whens the last time youve seen a MoM
>>169793087
i just saw mine
>>169793087
I've just seen yours lamo
>>169793087
A sniper built one, but he never activated it, because he realized he can't use ultimate to end chases with it on.
3 weeks ago?
>>169793087
that shit is so bad on everything. turns out not being able to use skills makes you a melee creep.
Normally I'm the nice and mature 30+ year old Dota 2 player. But I was grumpy and came home from work 11:00AM this morning (19:16/7PM were I live in Europe right now) after a 10 hour nighshift, only to do a Dota 2 game and realize my entire team was russian.
Proceeded to flame, trashtalk and be a toxic asshole for the whole game, which is out of character for me normally. This due to many factors like me being tired mentally, zero communication, and them all speaking russian.
At the end of the game, one of them politely tells me "This is Russian server :)".
I checked... and for some reason my game search had switched to autoserver. Felt like the biggest asshole in history. That the russian guy that told me I was playing on a russian server was polite to me after 50 minutes of abuse didn't make it better.
I was literally sitting there by my desk facepalming with both hands for like a minute.
>>169793852
Its not bad.
But it means you need to use all your skills, and then MOM.
But even then: There is a good chance you have a a active with only 4-5 cooldowns once you MOM, and being a melee creep is no fun.
Its even worse if you use it to farm, and get jumped on.
>>169793081
daedelus doesnt require the hero to use an active to receive the full benefit
that alone keeps it relevant
>>169794045
>literally copypasting plebbit
hello doturdos
when are the qualifiers starting?
>>169768024
the new AMD stuff looks really dope
>>169794242
The thing is: Most of the benefit of Thorn doesn't come from the active.
+60 damage, +85 for Int heroes
+Attackspeed(!)
+Crit
+Gazilion mana, and ability to regen it
Thats insane. Daed doesn't give that much damage in the long term
And you get the active on top of that.
>>169794045
Yeah, autoserver also brought me in russia. Gave me ebin player with 4k games and 700(!) abandons. My good boy points did not werk for some reason.
>>169794668
>+60 damage, +85 for Int heroes
daed is 76 damage for all heroes
>+Attackspeed(!)
30AS barely more than power treads
>+Crit
20% chance 175% crit vs 30% chance 230% isnt even a contest
>+Gazilion mana, and ability to regen it
only relevant for int as no one rushes bloodthorn
daedalus completely outclasses this as a damage item, the active is completely unreliable
Singsing is streaming dotards!
>>169795089
>30AS barely more than power treads
If this was a game where slots or attackspeed was common, it wouldn't be a issue.
Your goal on attackspeed is to breach 300, and maybe land on 320 or 340. If possible.
30 attackspeed on your damage item slot is a lot. Even more so, because stat items don't give you more than +25 at most.
>only relevant for int
A lot of Dota heroes have nukes. Free mana means you can start camp/wave by nuking, instead of conserve mana. It means you can spam spells in teamfights, and don't have to fountain/shire to get it back
And the extra farm adds up.
>daedalus completely outclasses this as a damage item
Daedlus is 135% if PRNG works in your favor. It got nerfed from a 2.8x crit to currently a 2.3x. Its not a lot.
>some of u are ok
What did he mean by this?
>>169795589
>>169783701
>>169781503
>>169781246
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/86/Snip_spawn_07.mp3
>>169795718
r9k meme, dead like its creator
>>169748201
HER BOOBS IS WET
SHE WANT THE D
>>169795880
Take the shot
New hero :
Qioutii , The Innocent
Int, Meele
Skill 1 : Guidance
Instantly calls an ally that lasts for a certain duration. If an ally's HP drops below 1 or the duration ends, the ally is returned to its last position. Cannot use guidance if an ally is too close.
Passive component increases your damage for every ally nearby.
Attack Damage bonus : 10/15/20/25
Spell Damage bonus : 30/35/40/45
Damage per second bonus (Pure) : 8
Max nearby ally bonus : 5
Uncastable Range : 1200
Castable Range : Global
Cooldown : 40/37/34/31
Skill 2 : Aromatherapy
Surrounds an area with soothing smell. All enemies who enter the area are disarmed.
Aromatherapy Radius : 225/275/325/375
Duration : 2.5/3/3.5/4
Cooldown : 12/11/10/9
Skill 3 : Amusement
Acts playfully towards the target expecting no revenge increasing your damage dealt. If you are attacked by the target you are attacking, this ability is disabled for 2.5 seconds.
Damage amplifier : 25%/30%/35%/40%
Skill 4 : Candyfication
Qioutii expresses her anger towards the enemy's chaotic actions by sending a pinkish beam dealing damage per second.
If the target dies while being buffed by this ability, Qioutii steals dead enemy's passive ability that last proc for a certain time.
Damage per second : 100
Duration : 4/5.5/7
Passive steal duration : 22
Cooldown : 70/55/40
>>169795883
WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THAT THOUGH?
Why is that Adelaide Avatarfag still not permabanned, fucking mods
>>169796137
mass shooters dude, some of u are ok but dont go to school tomorrow
>>169795648
>Your goal on attackspeed is to breach 300, and maybe land on 320 or 340. If possible.
this is next to impossible without 7 slots
10% of you total AS goal is not "a lot" its 10%
>free mana means you can start camp/wave by nuking, instead of conserve mana.
any non-int hero would have already dealt with mana issues if they were a problem with earlier items, waiting for bloodthorn so you can nuke camps is very inefficient
>PRNG works in your favor
the non-active crit from bloodthorn is also subject to prng so this is moot
>>169796414
You say that now, but if he appeared in front of you, you'd fuck his bp till it's raw.
>>169796462
>this is next to impossible without 7 slots
With 2 Agi gain, you get 100 + 50. 3 agi gain is +75 attackspeed. So you need 140-160 attackspeed, ideally.
AC is +55, Mjollnir is +80, Moonshard is +120(!), Butterfly is +65, Silver Edge is +45, Manta is +41, SNY is +32
Getting 140-160 attackspeed from 2-3 slots is reasonable.
>>169796517
t. adelaide
>>169796948
so you're now telling me its "easy" to get attack speed. why would i care about another 30.
>>169797448
Because slots isn't free. There is a reason you only see Moonshard on heroes like Tiny, even if something like a Juggernaut would benefit more from a Moonshard Rush after getting some HP items.
>>169795589
i think its due time you post tummy adelaide
>>169797528
actually you never see moonshard at all unless its to activate it
trying to reach this AS goal is not a priority in any build, so reality is 7 slots is about when you can expect to reach it
>>169797729
>alch
>sniper
>void
>lcnightstalker
>unique players per month was at ~13.9 million at end of 6.88
>now at 13.266 million
dotards?
So when do the GOOD teams play?
>>169798442
Real niggas like me stopped playing when 7.00 hit, That shit is hot garbage.
>>169798619
>he is a ''real nigga''
>>169798885
They didn't call me O.G TimberGod for nothing.
>>169796129
>Int, Melee
Trash it
>>169798935
You're right, they didnt call you og timbergod
Nobody did
>coming back to dota 2 after several years of playingleaguesince i want more of a challenge
>remember the glory days of farm-and-forget AM and quota NP
>but most of all, i remember MoM sven
>hyped to try it out
>build it on him in the first bot match i play
>can't activate my ult or warcry since apparently it silences you now
>it's basically just dogshit now
>tfw you will never again make the enemy team shit your pants as they hear https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/52/Sven_ability_godstrength_01.mp3 as you burst out of the jungle, swathed in purple and red auras with your armlet, MoM, warcry, and ult activated
FeelsBadManAt least tell me Sven is still viable, for fuck's sake.
>>169704215
Wait how did he get up there?
>>169799986
Sven is only good when playing against jugg (straight counter) and amazing against illusion heroes.
situationally relevant.
>when you pudge so hard your teammates tip you without even noticing you dont own a battlepass
Im downloading r6 siege so I can handle//satisfy my competitive nature and not play a dying game.
Wish me luck lads.
>>169794526
sauce!
Do people ever build Necrobook on Meepo?
>Sk feeding death after death
>Mid dusa has gone the epik 0 damage build
>the rest of us are talking to each other about how bad these guys are
>sk feeds another death
>"lmao fuck!! sorry lol"
>game is pretty much lost because of them
>sk and dusa are queued together
>Sk is 800 mmr below average of team
Literally why do i have to deal party queue's, let alone average shifts like this. This is fucking garbage
>>169801840
its just a game
>>169801529
i make eulscepter on it
>>169801952
yeah you're right. Why would i like to play with evenly matched teams?
>>169797729
The problem is that if you get a Basher, getting 300-400 attackspeed amplifies the disable of the basher.
Even more so because PRNG means there is a sweetspot even if you get (un)lucky.
>>169799986
You are a patch too late, Sven was viable for like 3 patches straight, but now that Ancient stacking got nerfed he isn't that good anymore. Should still be ok in Pubs though
>game gets better and playerbase gets bigger
>d2g gets more dead
explain this atheists
>>169803337
looks like 136 posters to me
>>169803337
4chan is dying
all the generals i visit follow the same trend
>>169788082
Dota died one year ago. The 9 month gap between the patches is what killed the game. It used to be okay for DotA because people were playing for fun back then and didn't care about the competitive scene that much. But now that Dota is somewhat big it is killing the game for the average player.
7.00 got some stuff right but for the bigger part feels rushed. The problematic heroes from 6.88 are still as overpowered, it is just that they aren't part of the competitive "meta" (yet/again) so people think they are weak.
And it seems like we will get another 9 months without a major patch changes but minor talent meme ones.
So yeah, it was fun once but this isn't the case anymore.
>>169803707
is it me or /mu/ is dead as fuuuuuuck
>>169804386
>The problematic heroes from 6.88 are still as overpowered
illusion based siegeing has completely changed
>>169804386
Dota has been dying for the past 4 years to you retards. Just because you don't like it anymore doesn't make it dead. Look at the numbers; or maybe you just redefined the word "dead" to your convinience?
>>169804587
my favorite thing lately is to ask them to name alive gaems and watch them squirm
>>169803337
>playerbase gets bigger
any proof of that outside of sources provided by valve?
they could easily fake it to give players false sense of security.
>>169804790
overwatch
league
heartstone
cs:go
also *tips*
>>169805103
hearthstone is an alive game to you are you retarded
>>169804587
>L-look at the numbers, it isn't d-dead!
Yeah, everybody is looking at them and they are less than how it was before the 7.00 patch. Are you one of these people who believe people stopped playing because the game started running like shit because I will have to shatter your dreams and tell you it runs significantly better on shit machines but worse on good ones.
>b-but numbers
You are either a valve fan or you are a viewer only if you don't get that the huge gap between the patches shooed people away. 7.00 was hyped to hell and back and it turned to be a shitty gimmick patch that was rushed.
Dota, the RTS game, died years ago, what you are playing now is Dota, shitty brawler, and if you enjoy it good for you.
>>169804790
Online games with passionate developers.
>>169805103
dota is a bigger game than everyone of those except for league, which we will never know the true player base since it is never published.
saying they are "alive" games means dota is equally alive
>>169805103
>implying valve would ever give a shit about that
Nigger they don't even advertise Dota outside of China. Have you ever seen a single dota ad on the internet?
>>169805313
>Dota, the RTS game, died years ago, what you are playing now is Dota, shitty brawler, and if you enjoy it good for you.
So you didn't redefine the word dead, instead you prefered to redefine Dota. That's cool, that proves me right either way.
>>169805313
I have a shit machine and it runs worse than before, I get 15-20 fps in teamfights and it's the reason I don't play right now
>>169805339
>dota is a bigger game than everyone of those except for league
>>169805690
dotards only watch when there's esports on
>>169805690
>cs:go is bigger than dota
HoN > Dota
>>169805690
so are you saying cs:go is bigger than league? lol
>>169805776
cs go doesnt have bots farming accounts and low prio
>>169805854
>cs go doesnt have bots farming accounts
>>169805854
>>169804386
>The problematic heroes from 6.88 are still as overpowered
Because its part of their core strength that makes them problematic.
I.E Luna's glaives as a siege/anti blink tool
The main thing killing the game is:
1. Performance degrades from patch, since 90% of Russia/Peru/non Adults is on toasters
2. Patch being really bad and essentially "killing" a lot of custom games, for no reason at all. Even at basic shit like the Team UI not scaling to custom games by default
3. Nothing has been done to make custom games healthy either. Its still just a few popular maps and "Dota, but different".
So the custom map scene is essentially dead, and has never really been alive, because "top 10 popular" isn't a server browse mode
>>169805854
Farming what exactly? You get the sholder piece of some random shitty set like once every 100 games.
>>169806032
Custom games are just another feature valve added and then forgot about. Like local chat and guilds
>>169805905
>>169806027
>weebs and r9k out of arguments
hmmm
>>169806272
>You: the sky is green
>Someone: >the sky is green
>You: LOL OUT OF ARGUMENTS?
>>169806272
more like your statement is simply not true and if you were serious you are actually retarded
>>169806219
Local chat wouldn't be so bad if the regions auto merged due to low population.
Guilds are a dead end feature anyhow. It was a dead end feature even for most games.
battlecup is one of the most compelling features added to dota2 since inception and it is never talked about
we finally have an avenue for amateur to professional transition
>>169807017
yeah but it goes against the "dota is dying" narrative so we dont talk about it on here
>>169807017
It's usually some pros shitstack that wins though.
>>169807167
if an amateur group cant progress past the legacy pros then wtf are they going to do at a lan, regardless is way more opportunity than going either the pubstar or becoming a crony route
the pro scene isnt going anywhere while valve puts out multimillion dollar lans
>Someone picks techies
>They start mining our own jungle first
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
>>169700954
Seems fine to me
this general is dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXFNYMkqS78
>>169808519
And yet normies like you are still here
>>169807476
refer to this image lad
https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1488325610854.jpg
I haven't had any reports in like 2 months.
What the fuck is this?
Can't even report retards that feed couriers and intentionally chrono their own teams.
>>169809210
>waste all reports on fake reports
>complain about no reports
sounds ok to me
try again in another life
W H Ythe fuck is this thread still alive
there is literally nothing wrong with playing dota on 1440p
1080p bois get btfo
when a russian comes to your lane you say "idi nahui russkya sobaka"
dumb tards of the 2
>>169808758
Refer to this image lad
https://exhentai.org/s/ab3ce4ea61/882640-98
>>169809947
heros of the new earth
>>169807476
>mine camp
>hit level 2 from camp or almost level 2
>go to lane and blast off some poor nigger for half his hp
I don't see the problem.
>>169809947let's derail until new thread
let it die
>>169809985
>piss drinking
really dude
>>169805419
Why should I redefine anything when you are on keen on Valve's cool aid.
>>169810279
spotted the pleb
This is the Sweden Trump supporters don't want you to see
>>169810053
Do mines block spawns?
hi guys im new to this general and just wondering why nobody is actually talking about starcraft lol
you dotards play like gayyou all suck
http://steamcommunity.com/id/lolmikes
add my steam for dota games
>>169810383
>everyone "Man" is a skeleton that balds
Hold shit stop the gene pool.
>>169810436
EE is the heir to the mouthbreathing bonjwa technique
>>169810383
is it normal to carry your wife's children like that in sweden
>>169809585
you better be talking about 3440x1440 otherwise youre a poorfag
>>169810383
me on the bottom
>>169810383
having kelly monkies pictures in your pc should be illegal, you should be put on a list
hey my dude, can i sleep to you?because you're so bed
>>169810395
They haven't for years.
What's the best hero to do the 250s slow quest? I already got it 2 stars and I can't be arsed to come up short again so I need something fool proof.
>>169810647
take some legal frosty flaked girl action to cleanse your palette
>>169810740
Viper you tard.
>>169810650
im still confident that im funny
>>169810527
yeah, every man should be american sized
don't post please thank you
>>169810784
>soe
fucking millenials
>>169810809
Oh right. Man I'm such a tard.
>>169810740
Viper or Veno
>>169810350
Not an argument
>dies in mid
WE NEED WARDS
NOOB I USE COURIER
BLABLABLABLABABLABLA
come MID i throw, THIS TEAM
new thread hype ! ! !
big fat ____
post your favourite player and lets round out this shit show of a thread
>>169811082
what animal is this?
>>169810740
did with axe
just cast battle hunger on the support
guaranteed 10s every cast
where's my new thread? if u guys don't manage to make one im gonna revive a dead meme
>>169811168
captain puppan of course
>>169811168
>>169811168
name a better mid I dare you
>>169811373
when did he demote himself?
>>169800210
Iron branch trick. Walk next to the cliff, fence yourself in with 3 of them. Click on cliff you want to get to and plant the last branch on your hero portrait. It plants inside you and displaces your hero on the cliff. Same trick for getting out of disruptors thunder dome
Who's the best offlane pub player?