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Otohime is still cute.

>NEWS
GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the pastebin for details.

2/26 UPDATE IS UP: (Goblin mage and Piercing rune nerfs)
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0074

https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0073

GBF Pastebin:
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Official Website:
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>>169629651
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Post witch
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Someone give me a fun deck to play, it doesn't even have to be ultra meta.
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first???
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>>169655729
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>>169655729
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>>169655764
nep
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>>169655617
Move Shadow above Haven and Forest and that sounds about right.
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>>169655729
But is she beautiful, powerful, and nerfed to boot?
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If I was going to craft a single Haven deck right now what would it be?
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why is literally everyone playing shadow now do i need to run 3 odins or something
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>>169655871
Seraph. Always Seraph.
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>>169655729
Can wizards get in on the action?
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87983

sumimasen
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lich leader when
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You can't stop her, you only slow her down.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
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>Enemy Wolf Leader
>uses White Wolf of Eldwood
God dammit
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>>169655764
Discard dragon or JO dragon.
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>>169655941
Thanks vampy-chan
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As Sun Satan, is it worth taking out another 5-7 drop for a third Themis? Garuda's in there for a 7-drop Sacred Plea combo, but maybe it's worth taking out?
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Daily reminder that Cygames has already planned 14 chapters for each of the leaders. In fact, there will also be an additional single campaign where all 7 team up.
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>>169655729
>tfw someone thinks I've disappeared from the meta
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mama...papa.... watch me adventuring with mr.burglar!
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I compiled a korean voice pack for koreaboos.

https://mega.nz/#!YFY2RJDB!4IO4k-9jW_Az5EiF_TXMZw9loqiZ4172exoZ2-fLmec

Patch it the same way to do with japanese voices.
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>>169656132
DELETE
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>>169656132
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>>169655939
>mfw JO dragon becomes tier 0 or tier 1 next expansion
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>>169656157
this isn't starcraft, they have no power here
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>>169656132
DELET THIS
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>>169656132
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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Lads what's the secret to beating Elite II computers if I don't have seraph or daria or D-shift
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>>169656242
Aggro Blood
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>>169656242
Just rush their face down.
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>win 3 with Dragoncraft daily
>can only do JO
>in A3 trials anyway so just do it in ranked
>go 3-0
Memes are a man's greatest ally.
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>>169656242
Play aggro.
I beat them all on my first try with aggro shadow.
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>>169656101
Sun Satan generally doesn't run Garuda nor General, it's much more defensively minded. Take them both out for a third Themis and some Tribunals.
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>>169656101
>Sun Satan
>Vallhallan General and Garuda
Anon what the fuck
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>>169656101
You definitely want 3 Themis as Sun Satan. I would get rid of Garuda. I would also get rid of Valhallan. You can put the Moon in though.
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>>169656132
you can fucking delete this right now or im calling the cops
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>>169656132
fuckin delet this
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>>169656242
Storm haven or aggro blood/shadow
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>>169656242

Wolfbolt worked great for me.
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>>169655929
Is the list from Game AI good to go with?

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.60BfY.60BfY.60BfY.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.60COa.642Eo.642Eo.642Eo.67sNo.67sNo.67sNo.640Xa.640Xa.640Xa.6BjSI.6BjSI.6BjSI.67sO6.67sO6.67sO6.6BgWy.6BgWy.645Pw.645Pw.645Pw.67xlY.67xlY.67xlY.65BUS.65BUS.61KvW.61KvW.61KvW.694Vo
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>>169656025
>tfw he drops it on a board that can't suicide it on anything and you just roach the Wolf's face a bit later
I feel a bit sad as the AI never managed any proper combos on me.

The Thief who apparently got the most reactions just kind of floundered and died in all my matchups. And all of Erika's story, the opponents basically did nothing as I just ran original Aggro Sword.
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Better share the wealth or things is gonna get ugly
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>>169656132
PERISH
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>>169656132

DELETE
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>tfw you know you're going to get bullied
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>>169656132
i hope you die a miserable death you fucking piece of shit
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>there are those with problems beating the burglar
>when I just atomeme my way through all the 3 chapters

Need to show an AI how to do that properly.
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>>169656346
My only experience with Haven was storm, I'm a sucker for clinging to old habits.

>>169656335
>>169656359
Alright. I only have one Satan. Are two Satan's considered too much, or is crafting a second one considered required?
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I want to eat Luna's mom's cake.
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>>169656242
I had good results with Nep.
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Why do people call the dragon pendant JO?
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>>169656657
You need to tell us what deck he's playing. This is very important.
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help
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>>169656132
Over the line.
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>>169656132
DON'T TOUCH LUNA
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Which craft should get a counter spell?
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>>169656704
Do any run Odin?
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>>169656426
Too many questionable card choices. Take a look at this Anon's deck >>169648172
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>>169656774
Balor can be kind of insane in T2
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>>169656687
Second one is important, because although you've got 10 turns to draw it, only having one means you don't have a very good chance of having it. Three is overkill.
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>>169655379
Sadly we don't but we're getting there.

2pp Dwarf perfumer: If an evolved allied follower is in play, choose an enemy follower, it can't attack next turn
2pp Forest of Dreams countdown (2) at the end of your turn, select a random enemy follower, it can't attack until after the end of the opponents turn
3pp Fen sprite fanfare: choose an enemy follower. it can't attack next turn
6pp Grand archer Selwyn. Choose an enemy follower it can't attack next turn
7pp Forest Archelon Fanfare: All enemy followers in play lose the ability to attack next turn if at least 2 other cards were played this turn


2pp Liza, All allied followers can't be damaged by spells and effects until the end of the opponents turn
6pp Athena, Fanfare: None of your other followers can be damaged this turn
8pp Ancient Forest Dragon Fanfare: Give all other allied followers resistance to targeted enemy spells and effects
8pp Archangel Reina Evolve: Evolve all allied followers
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>>169656657
You won right? ;__;
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>>169656826
not rune that's for fucking sure

blood/dragon are more in need of new things so I guess them
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>>169656826
Rune
The damn finger image was already posted.
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Why does Seraph run Beastcall Aria while Sun Satan doesn't?
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Pure virginal maidens:
Eris
May
Unica
Liza
Merlin
Daria

Loyal to their lover:
Isabelle/Kyle
Arisa/Losaria
Erika/Princess
Flame/Glass
Feena/Minigobu
Anne/Grea

Cock-loving, semen-swallowing sluts:
Luna
Vampy
Forte
Cerberus
Olivia
Veight
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>>169656948
t. Burglar
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>>169656846
If they do, they never used it against me.
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>>169656760
it was a wolf bolt that was using feena but didn't cut out one drops completely since they still had may.

>>169656920
n-next time for sure
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>>169656157
disgusting
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>>169657005
>Olivia
>Luna
OVER THE LINE
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>>169656157
>Implying any gooks are on this board
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>elite sword uses castle in the sky

wew
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>>169657005
Unica is used goods run by everyone.
Queen Vampire is devoted to some nobody.
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>>169657005
>pure
>Eris

Dumb slut seraph players you can only choose one.
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>>169656987
only dumb ones run it since it is so weak to a huge portion of the ladder (rune)
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>>169657127
Luna harvests sea men for her adventure!
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gbfgtard here
What exactly happened to lunas parents that led to her "making friends" quirk. Are those skelly's actually her parents?
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>>169657252
>a 2PP 2/1 and 4/4 is weak to a huge portion of the ladder
Explain this one to me.
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>>169657005
Merlin sounds way too sultry to not be familiar with dicks, sorry.
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>>169657345
Her parents were murdered by Joe Chill and she inexplicably gains necromancy powers to become Gothman. In her grief she imprints on some skeletons she raised
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>>169657345
>Are those skelly's actually her parents?
no
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>>169657412
Nah she's trying to have that mature look but in reality she's just a cake.
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>>169657345
They were murdered by a burglar. The apparitions aren't really her parents but shades conjured by Luna.


>>169657412
>short busty female wizard that always hung around the king and a bunch of knights
She's probably had many magical abortions.
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>>169657394
Powercreep. Beastcall into dogma was so powerful back in DE, now it's just decent.
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>>169657502
that's very cute, now I want a cake merlin
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anyone have a dragon deck for the legendaries?
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>>169657345
She's actually Batman.

Actual spoilers.

Her parents were killed by a burglar and refusing to accept their actual deaths and her failure to do anything about it, she's changed the concept of death in her mind as a coping mechanism. She considers her parents still around and dead people as friends.

Her Lotus Dream in the most recent story chapters is her repeatedly killing that one burglar over and over as she saves her parents then has breakfast/cake.
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>>169657345

Only if you want to spoil yourself for the rest of the single campaign.

They are her parents tied to the world thanks to her awakened necromancy when she wished they could stay. Their current state is agonizing enough that they groan to their daughter most of the time. Luna, not knowing better, shut those voices away and make pretend that they actually agree with everything she does.
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>>169657556
It's still really hard to deal with turn 4.
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>>169656750
JO=jack off
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>>169657496
>>169657473
>>169657551
Thanks kind sgvs

>>169657605
>>169657591
All good. I play super casually so I'm not even sure how long it would take me to get there if I didn't ask since the crossover itself doesn't say shit beside translating her lines improperly.
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>>169657571
Just run your typical Ramp core and shove all those in. Minus flute.
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>>169656750
It means Jack Off and it's a parody of this ad
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>>169657726

Good thing for Shadow is that we get this to murder soccermoms and 4/4 tiger with pact.
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>>169657591
>Lotus Dream
her what
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>>169657895
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters
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>>169657005
Veight is pure! You take that back!
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>single campaign has 14 in total
>still 9 chapters for most of the leaders

By right, how long are cygames going to hold us off? Will we only get to have the whole single campaign after 2 years?
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>>169657571
Everything but flute fits in ramp until you got the full list
You can storm ramp
You can OTK disconewt with only golds

Flute forte, olivia and Zirnitra fit in flute dragon spam
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So Eris is the only canonically good guy out of the heroes?
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>tfw forgot to take a screenshot at 500 wins with shadow
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>>169656849
Thanks for the help anon, cant wait to play this cancerous craft.
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>>169658135
Eris is half of the reason this shit started in the first place.
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>>169658135
she is literally the bad guy
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>>169658167
>having to craft 3x silvers
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GIVE ME YOUR BEST JO DRAGON DECK
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>>169658135
>nihilist
>good guy
yeah no

rowen is the ubermensch in the story
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>>169658135

>Eris
>the one who fucked up the whole world
>good guy

What do you think?

Though she sort of saw through her wrongdoings at the end http://pastebin.com/d647Gpzi
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>>169658135

>Eris
>good

Are you playing a different game or something?
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>>169658135
Real Eris is an evil mastermind seeking to destroy the world.

For the early story you were literally playing her evil twin shade which ended up being good due to how evil she was.
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>>169658135
What? Nobody is truly evil in the story.
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>>169658135
Wait what? Isn't Eris the biggest problem?
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>>169658278
>a literal cuck
>ubermensch
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>>169658412
>has a family to protect
>cuck
do you just call anything and anyone a cuck
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Just won with my janky aggro shadowcraft against a Canadian Daria shitter who played 2 Darias on the same turn and flooded his board

lol fuck Daria players
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Anne will be playable soon even if it looks like complete shit now!
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>>169658280

Stop posting your fanfic, and Eris is not Hag!
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>>169658135
Eris's only good for dicking!
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>>169658492
nice blogpost
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>>169658608
Made for thighsex
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>>169658471

>Literally admits he can't protect anyone

I don't know who you're trying to fool here anon.
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>>169655764
Storm Haven
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Craft second Ancient Elf or second Daria?

No deck preference as of yet.
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Is sahaquiel even good for anything aside from neutral meme decks? Rolled two of her and considering liquify and suicide desu

Also I assume eidolon of madness is core on haven, seems pretty insane
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>>169658630
I would have loved to see the look on his face change from being sure he'd kill me in the next turn or two to realizing he just got beaten by a well-saved DoD and my single copy Phantom Howl in the deck.

Even spammed "What should I do?" on his face for good measure.

Daria players don't deserve -any- respect.
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>>169658881
Saha is powerful in ramp decks. Eidolon is fairly useless outside of memes right now.
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>>169658280
>no orgy scene at the end
2/10 fanfic
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>>169658881

Sahaquiel will be more relevant when they give us more neutral followers with good effect. She's a sleeper card, unlike those that just suck like eidolon.
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>>169658881
Saha is amazing, Eidolon is a meme.
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>>169658963
I wish Eidolon wasn't so easily removed. Dance of Death was a mistake.
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>>169658493
Did you cut off her limbs and attach isaboob's arms to her?
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>>169658858
Second Daria is probably more worthwhile
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>dont have any forest cards outside of AE
>roach otk worked with only AE, but they killed it
how do I get my Yuel sleeves in time now i'm starting to picnic
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Dragon's ramping should let it get evolve sooner as well
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>>169658264

PLEASE RESPOND I WANT TO BE A WIZARD
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My first all-gold pack, too bad the cards themselves aren't great.
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It would've been better if the burglar raped Luna after killing her parents, prove me wrong
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>>169659113
>>169658858

If you craft a Daria, I will lose all respect for you. If you're actually a nigger, then I don't have any already.
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>>169658881
she's good in any control deck with lucifer, i've even seen haven use her.
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>>169659248
nice rudepost...
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>>169655369
it was before the pedo hysteria, also i bet that girl was more mature than most of the modern 18 y.o. ones

the length of childhood is a social thing
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>>169659221
Who's saying he didn't? It gets mighty lonely being a burglar in a dark forest. The rape might have been what solidified Luna's traumatized
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What can beat Ramp Dragon, Seraph, and DShift that isn't aggro?
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>>169659221
pls die
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>>169659214
Butcher is one the best animated cards in the game. A shame that he's useless.
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Post lewd sluts
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>>169659376
>>169659221
Delete this and then kill yourself.
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>>169659221
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>>169659332
>i bet that 9 year old was more mature than most of the modern 18 y.o. ones
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>>169658260
I vialed all my Havencraft cards for the past 6 months to feed the other 6 crafts quicker.

Now im filling up that Haven collections since I have every other meta deck crafted.
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>>169659221
it would've been better if the burglar raped you after killing your parents

now try to prove ME wrong
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>>169659428
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>get to D0
>immediately get bombed by a meme control variant of every class

Why do you have 3 odins at this rank, please kill yourself
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>>169659332
Her brain isn't even fully developed yet you retard
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>>169657551
merlin was a guy
even if he transformet to a girl he likely couldn't conceive... at least if he didn't make the spell to give him that ability
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How can anyone defend Castle in the Sky
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>>169659543
When all you need to do is be a housewife, you don't need a fully developed brain. You can grow into it. It's not rocket science.
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Is sword good again?

Also Post Lists
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>>169659543
>brain
pussy

her pussy likely wasn't fully developed... that's the main reason why back then girls rarely were married before the age of ~12-14 y.o.
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>>169659621
How can anyone assault it when it's all the way up there?
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>>169659428
Lewdna
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no matter how hard you try it's impossible to win with aggro sword.

So many retarded cost effective wards in this game it's ridiculous.
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>>169659467
i bet that girl could hold more responsibility than most of /vg/ anons desu

i mean most of them wouldn't make a good housewife anyway, especially during a major depression
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>>169659724
Use airplanes, missiles, and birds.
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>>169659467
>Implying people don't mature faster in harsh environments
Believe it or not, not every place is so sheltered that they have "safe zones" with photos of puppies and coloring books, for fully grown adults that have had some one disagree with their opinion. There are still places where 10 year olds have to work to actually eat and get shelter.

That being said, anything younger than 13 is too young to be married. 13onwards is perfectly fine, and that's usually around the time the average girl loses her virginity anyway in the West.
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>>169659830
I use Otohime
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>>169659671
>>169659721
I was refering to the comment about her maturity
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>>169659865
Where the fuck are you living where the average 13 year old girl loses their virginity in the west?
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>>169659428
You first.
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>Draconification

Is this the new meme card?
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Why aren't you playing Storm Haven right now?
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>tfw my favourite decks are all control (Nep, Elana, Sun Satan, Seraph, Wolf Bolt)
>tfw can only consistently grind rank in AA2 with Aggro

There's just too many counters out there atm.
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>>169660068
But I am playing it.

Post dick.
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>>169659415
>>169659449
>>169659461
>>169659482
Why are you guys so angry, is canon that Luna would've enjoyed it too.-
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>>169660042
>4pp Silence a morde
>Not using this card
Lmao @ your life
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>>169660097
Mind sharing your Wolf Bolt list?
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>>169659892
Not many 18-year olds have the maturity to be a full-on housewife at their age in this generation of ours.
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Convince me not to buy 1200 crystals.
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>>169660228
do it for her
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>>169659107
Basically.
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>>169660068
I'm playing it with saha gilga, no one see the turn 7 gilgamesh coming.
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>unranked
>opponent just ropes every single turn
>when i kill them on turn 5 they disconnect
I don't understand. Was he hoping I would just forfeit?
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>>169660228
If you support cygames then Shadowverse wont die and youll be stuck in this general forever.
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>>169660181
I don't actually play it in ranked.
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>>169660163
>caring about mordecai
I think you mean Khawy
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>>169657940
His nanopenis may be pure but his butthole has seen more semen than the navy
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>>169660318
That's really scary.
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God damnit, Gobu is so fucking shit now.
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>>169660208
You have no idea what that girl did either tough, you're just assuming shit
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>>169658264
There really isn't because what you choose to pack affects how well you can tutor, control, and burn.
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Banish doesn't activate "last word" right?
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>turn 1 pass
>turn 2 oracle
>turn 3 Dracomancer's rites
>turn 4 aiela
>turn 5 pass
>turn 6 lose

Holy shit how did they get the Elite 2 AI to so perfectly match players bros?
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>>169660540
>no Uriel
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>>169660524
F
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>>169660549
Yes, that's the entire point of banishing.
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>>169658264
Has followers but it can win games consistently
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I want /svg/ to take my 30 year old virginity
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>>169660540
>>169660605
oh wait does Emissary draw it?
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How the fuck do I fix the purple ghost hag?
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>>169660717
Forte is ready and willing!
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You should get an animated emblem if you pull an animated lego
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>>169660717
You rather lose your virginity than to keep your wizard status? Wth is wrong with you.
>>169660739
Yes
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>>169660615
Every time I press F something good happens to my dick.
Didn't say so?
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>>169660717
That is why Arisa exists
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>>169660802
Verify game files.
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>>169660828
A wizard isn't a housewife tho. What's the point?
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>see a swordcraft
>he go second
>lose 90% of the time
Why is this allowed?
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>>169660639
oh ok, I've never seen it yet in a game. But that's probably because I just started
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>>169660717
you're not missing out, just buy an ona
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>>169660717
Shut the fuck up Eris
>>
What to spend 2000 gold on, svg?
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>>169661047
Extra evo point for sword is too important.
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>>169661047
I feel bad that literally 90% of my Sword losses are simply due to Albert at this point.
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>>169660526
I guess you don't know how to read.

What part of "the marriage lasted" didn't you understand?
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>>169658963
>ramp decks

which are relevant right now aside from ramp dragon?

>>169659014
yet right now she's fairly useless I guess?
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>>169659121

OTK still works, its just worse. You'll lose to aggro more often.

I was trying tempo but was meeting so many stupid control decks I decided to try a post nerf build and its at least playable. And its a lot more fun than everything else I was playing.
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>>169661216
>>169661347
Do you use Olivia on Sword? I get memed by 6 evo sword once? Can't even heal through it with Fervour and Lucifer
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>>169661154
A life
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>>169661437
DELETE
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>>169661405
Just ramp dragon. Maybe fun memes in Haven decks since they can run Lucifer/Bahamuts/other high cost medium attack neutrals with some regularity.

Eidolon just straight has no uses since everyone and their mother has removal available at turn 5 and 6 nowadays.
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>>169658264
I JO to trap angels so when I nut Humpty Dumpty, Satan will appear.
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>>169661437
My dick
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>>169661437
SHE IS NOT FOR LEWD
DELETE THIS
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>>169661559
what?
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>>169661348
How does the marriage lasting means she had any maturity at 9? What the fuck are you trying to say? Yeah obviously I'm not surprised she grew up and had kid, that means nothing for her level of maturity when she was 9. Her wedding present was a fucking doll for children.
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>>169661428
>tfw no roach today
>tfw they all try PtP or some meme deck
>tfw they all shit
I hope this never change
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Why do dragonshitters worship a slut? Don't they have any standards?
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crimson sorcery still costs only 1pp, levi is still a 4/4 on evolve.

Fucking fix it already.
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>>169661728
We want to fuck her, seems logical to me.
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>roach
>Daria
>nep
>seraph
>at D0

See ya later faggots
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>>169661595
Angel of the word is a boy, anon.
Also those are my only followers in the deck, save when Satan calls Servant and Rider.
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Pulled a White Wolf. Keep or dust?
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>>169661760
>I hate seeing huge tits on my screen at all times
Spotted the faggot
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>>169661890
Do you need the vials?
>>
Is Dragonsong Flute the objectively worst Leggo in the game?
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>>169657005
It's Erika/Goblin/Horse, mind you.
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>>169661890
Keep it so when you decide to play wolfbolt/wolfcoming/wolfrose, you'll have one already, unless you're like me who pulled 6 of them memewolves.
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Control blood is fun!
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>>169661989
Yeah I'd say so. Might try a White Wolf deck one day but on the fence.
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Is saha/luci dragon t1 or just a meme? I'm at A1 and I have a lot of vials
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>>169662001
Eidolon of Memeness is probably worse
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Check this out, Shadoweebs

We're getting new expansion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAHwjbKQi04
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>>169662030
I agree! Very fun!
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>>169662074
Just vial it, then.
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>>169662086
Sahaluci is rather a tier 1 combo, flexible in most decks.
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>>169662175
This time SV's expansion will come out first.
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>>169662175
The first new card announced
I'm so glad I quit that shit game
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>>169662175
>Hearthstone is so braindead they put the unga into their expansion
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>>169662175
I remember back when I used to like the Discover mechanic, but now I just laud it because the variance in discoverable cards is too large to play around. The Adapt pool of discoverable battlecries seems a bit more of a concise design, but I'm still not quite a fan. I much prefer SV's design philosophy to HS's, even if there's some archetypes and cards in the latter that I do miss.
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>>169662263
You can use it the exact same way as will of the forest, quit bitching
>>
Can someone tell me which deck wins more than 50% of games from AA2-Masters? I own literally every deck except Sword and have tried everything but I'm constantly being countered.
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>>169662026
Are any wolf decks worth playing or are they just memes?
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>>169659014
Eido's getting there

>>169659467
Kids used to be hardened motherfuckers. They had to learn fast, work hard, and they weren't coddled. There were 10 year olds that worked in the steel mills harder than you've ever worked your whole life.
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>>169662339
WotF doesn't split among your own followers and neither has a guaranteed 15 damage. Not some fun story to tell your friends.
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why do all the spells in this game do nothing but draw cards or kill shit
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Need a concede please, if you are doing the achievement just pass and let me kill you. 57088
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>>169662339

Will of the Forest doesn't hit your own minions.
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>>169661517
Midsword don't run olivia, they aim to close the game with turn 9 albert.
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>>169661437
enjoy prison scumbag
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>>169662468
>>169662507
No one is going to fucking play it when they have a board
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>>169662263
What's Overload?
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>>169662510
>No gay sex with hats on tab
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>>169662501
thanks gandalf
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>>169662608
Next turn, you lose x amount of pp points to spend or basically the overload amount. You get the pp points back at the end of your turn.
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>>169662175
>Summon 7 minions, get 40 hp
Why do people play that game again?
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>>169661437
what was the original image?
can someone post it on another site?
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>>169662608
It locks mana crystals the next turn. So you get a more powerful card for less upfront mana cost but have to pay it off the next turn.
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>>169662732
It's the c91 luna doujin cover, not hard to find on sadpanda.
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>>169662424
Wolfwhatever tend to have synergy with otk roach.
Homecoming if everyone and their mothers are playing wards
Silverbolt if you want to kill faster.
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>>169662175
>That Quest card

Holy shit that's sound fun. Maybe I am gonna play Hearthstone after all.
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I haven't played SV since a week or two after RoB came out, has anything changed since then?
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I'm buying 12 packs instead of 24 with crystals wish me luck!
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>>169663196
New story chapters, some cards got nerfed, SF leaders soon.
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What beats Nep and DShift?
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>>169663224
d-don't
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>>169663196
>week
Try 6 months
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>>169663196
the game is the worst its ever been and has one month left to live before everyone gives up on it completely
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>>169659621
In what sense? It's basically 10 face as early as t7.

>>169660042
>Ensures your cheap cards are always relevant
>Yoinks khawy/morde/Leonidas out of the way
>Yoinks any ward out of the way if it blocked lethal
>Combines with Wyvern cavalier in a dead hand for a 2pp filler
>Can drop any fattie's defense into trade range and/or dropping a high atk followers attack into range where you can survive crashing followers into it
>Tells Kaguya to fuck off
>Undoes the damage of getting snowman/golem'd
>"Heals" anything that survives a trade
>Turns dat mf boss ivory dragon/fire lizard into a real mf
It's pretty situational, but if you have some added draw/cycle from say, ivory dragons, it's pretty slick. Like a more defensive Urd desu

>>169660068
Didn't draft it and i'm sure as fuck not crafting it
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>>169662263
It's never going to make it into constructed so save your worrying. If anything it's a shaman rare that isn't helping aggro out, which is a good thing.
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>>169662175
implying i have the money to start playing hearthstone
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>>169662175
>new expansions keyword is literally a random effect

You can't make this shit up
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>>169663354
Kill yourself, shitposter.
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>>169663259
> Some cards got nerfed.
Oh my, any patch notes?

>>169663354
Even if this were true, what the fuck else would I play.
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>>169663310
I only bought 3 for the immediate gratification, I only got meme in the sky.
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>>169663196
Piercing Rune and Goblin Mage got nerfed, you missed the rise and fall of Aggro-Combo Roach and its 70% wr
New story chapters happened for Elf, Sword, and Shadow, more coming soon
Street Fighter collab soon
Ramp Dragon went through many revisions and eventually slipped into tier 1 alongside Daria
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>>169663224
WEBM, cuckboy.
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will control blood ever be good
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>>169660097
>tfw my favourite decks are all aggro
>tfw had to grind AA with control
what the fuck happened to the meta during the last month
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>>169663554
its ok right now since gobu got nerfed
make sure to run bahamut and mary first and foremost
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>>169663554
no
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>>169663589
There are so many decks now, and it seems that no matter what I queue I'm coming up against a counter. Every time I try to control I'm pounded by DShift, but I never face DShift when I aggro. It's bullshit, I just want to get the rest of the way to Masters with any remote level of consistency.
>>
building nep at the moment, should I craft 3 neps or 2 is fine?
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>>169663731
you're playing a deck built entirely around one card, what do you think
>>
>>169662175
>Playing walletstone

>>169662424
Wolf's a win con tutor.

>>169662494
There's bounce spells
Transform spells
Buff/drain stats spells
Gain a turn
Summon stuff(s)
Heal
Give special abilities like rush/gaze/bane/last word
Tutor
Gain pp

There's lot a lot of other shit to be able to do man
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What if Tower in the Sky were an commander?
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>>169662396
Any top tier deck could get you to Master, you just need to git gud.
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>>169658704
Gee bill, why don't you have a seat, post your deck and we have a little chat about "balance"

>>169663876
Too strong at its cost for popping commander effects when there's little amulet removal that's even playable let alone taken.
Banner and light each have a reason for why they are their way.
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>>169664087
>le git gud meme

There are almost no in-game decisions to be made in this game. I'm either just unlucky or choosing the wrong decks.
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>>169660228
It's your money and you're an adult.

Buying a premade is generally a better use of your money as it gets you specific cards at a fraction of the value. 500 crystals is only 20 packs and that's barely even a lego if you're lucky.

If you do buy crystals, use the 1 pack for 50 crystals daily deal to stretch it. Bear in mind, it's 1 lego every ~13 packs and 1 gold ~3 so don't exactly expect fucking anything but disappointment from your 24 packs.
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>>169664204
Post a replay of one of your games and I'll point out the numerous misplays you made.
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>>169664302
Actually 20 packs is 3 legos if you're lucky, 2 if you're not. But you're right, premades are better value and come with exclusive sleeves/art/emblems.
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>>169664204
Yeah, you won't get better with that attitude.
>>
>>169664359
>>169664367
I don't need to get better, I'm literally as good at this game as I can be considering how few choices there are in-game.
>>
BREATH OF THE SALAMANDER NERFS FUCKING WHEN

The only card saving this shit class
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>>169661047
You aren't able to stall momentum effectively and value more than an evo point and card? How is that not clear?
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>>169664469
Enjoy your current rank, I guess.
>>
>>169664469

>just netdeck bro
>just play on curve bro

Just kill you'reself bro
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>>169663554
Will D.Shift get nerfed? Will every class stop having an easy 1 or 2 cards 10+ damage combo from hand? There's your answer.
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>>169664762
>Will D.Shift get nerfed?
It just did?
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>>169664469
Oh gee then I guess the 30 thousand or so people above you are just hacking. Poor anon.
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>>169664365
>>169664302
500 crystals is only 10 packs. Or 5 packs all in 1 day.
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>>169661047
At this point why do people bitch about albert's turn 9 double strike.

Roach does 14 damage easily at turn 7-8 and this is just counting ONE roach + bounce
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>>169664837
Or they got there when the meta was more stable, or they had better luck.
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>>169664797
running piercing rune in dshift is rather suboptimal cardslot value, anon-chan
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>>169664797
That slight nerf was for Daria, DShift is still as bullshit as ever. We seriously need some sort of disruption from hand because just wards aren't enough to stop lategame retarded face rape.
>>
>>169664861

Because there are shitters who cannot ward up against that albert play telegraphed from miles away. So it's better to just whine it out.
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Anyone got a good neutral deck? I'm trying to make one but they're pretty meh
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>>169661154
If you want cards for a deck, draw those, otherwise sit on it for the xpak

>>169661728
>Consort with strange beasts
>Standards

>>169662001
Flute is great, its problem is the class doesn't have the engine to power it. Uriel and the added overflow effects have helped
>>
>>169664762
There's no point in playing control when at anytime you can run into an 80/20 match up. I play strictly aggro these days.
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>>169664861
>Roach does 14 damage easily at turn 7-8 and this is just counting ONE roach + bounce

That is predicated on playing four cards prior, two of which must cost 0 mana. While also having those 2 cards in hand.


Albert is one card + EP. That's it. It's a consistency issue and roach's just got nerfed too.
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>>169664954
post your dshift deck, o wise one
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>>169665018

>Flute is great

It literally melts your Sala Breath.

Just let it die, forever.
>>
Hey guys, I need a concede please.

52263
>>
>>169665172

>not pressuring sword hard enough that they still have one EP left

It's just proves how shitty some are in this game.
>>
>>169662818
oh shit, I didn't realize that got uploaded
I was so used to people just brainlessly uploading samples from pixiv that I just passively ignored anything that had "c91" in the title
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>>169664491
Just Liza/Shrine maiden it bro :^)

>>169664861
He's immune to damage meaning he's a lethal threat+ward kill on the board for lethal next turn unless you still have a ward/removal 5 turns after they went live. He's basically a better in every way genesis dragon that can also board clear.

Roach gets more damage if it drew snipes instead of faeries

>>169665328
Aurelia/Jeno/Tsubaki are pests. And that's before removal

>>169665242
If only there was something you could do about it. Something that would also kill things that weren't tokens.
>>
>>169665328
It's still a lower hurdle to clear. Plus Albert is still a wincon in topdeck mode where as roach isn't.

You are comparing two different things. Albert is effectively a one card combo.
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>>169664861
What >>169665172 said.

Sword goes first, gets out Quickblader and curves out perfectly. He whittles me down a bit even if I manage proper defensive play until I can reverse on turn 4 with evolve.

Then he smashes me in my face for 5 with Albert and then has another Albert without having even used maid leader or anything.

>>169665328
Hard when they have stuff like Jeno, Tsubaki, Charlotte, and Fangblade on the curve up to him.
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>>169665290
Thanks Morde-bro!

Thanks too, Aurelia-bro!
>>
>That one card that just pisses you off when the opponent plays it.

What's it's name /svg/?
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>>169665570
Never seen people play charlotte with frontguard and Fangblade being a thing
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>>169658493
cant wait anon.
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>>169665661
The best card in the game aka ancient elf.
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>>169665661
this little shit right here
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>>169665661
Nepthys. It's such a disgusting do-everything for 8pp that doesn't even cost an evo.
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>>169665661
Levi
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>>169665215
I spent a ton of time and thought into figuring out why stuff is good and why stuff is bad in my list (did the same for seraph, love the control-combo archetype). do the same if you want to win, scrublord.
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>>169665570
>Charlotte
I'm sorry, but you mean this Charlotte?
What rank are you anon?
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>>169665661
Levi, easily. Having to hear that old fuck's voice a million times every day for two months was awful.
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>>169665760
Except when it doesn't draw Mord it's complete shit
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what is wrong with grea's toe
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Just played what I was assume was a Dshift since they had Merlin, but they were using dirt cards as well like Calamitous. Odd as hell.
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>Maid Leader
>Only Target is Alberto
>Turn 5 fiesta

I love you sword.
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Is it just me or the fucking drop rate for imperial dragoon higher than any legendary. I have pulled mother fucking 7 of these, give me something else already.
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>>169665838
Some pure Dirt lists run 1x Merlin to accelerate their Fate's Hands, but if they were running stuff like Insight and Sorcery Cache as well, I don't know what sort of hybrid meme you were dealing with.
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>>169665935
Cygames are really trying to make Discard dragon a thing
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>>169665935
ive only pulled 1 dragoon, but ive pulled 5 matriarchs
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>>169665805
It's guaranteed to draw Morde unless you fucked up your deckbuilding you fuck.
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>be me new
>be choosing dragoncraft coz cool
>planned to get forte(leader)
>played
>having ass kicked
>le days passed
>is now kicking ass(from my pov)
>can you guys help me get stronker
>deck code is hdzi
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>>169666073
holy shit you need to go back
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>>169665838
all 3 rune archetypes are hybridizable
daria dshift is just the most widely known one since those are the 2 "real" archetypes, but if you watch the tournament placings autistically, you see daria dirt and dshift dirt pop up very occasionally
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What's with all this sword cancer on ladder? Literally faced 4 in a row in AA1.
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>>169666073
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>>169666073
reddit pls leave
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>>169665661
Khawi reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>169666156
Roach OTK died -> more of the decks Elf beat -> more Albert Midsword to counter those decks

Just the motivation I needed to play more CBlood!
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>>169665667
>>169665786
She's an offensive play that can also be used to stall against Roach whereas Fangblade can't.

While people stopped using her, I don't see why people didn't tech her in more for that purpose considering the roach meta. Potential finisher, more face damage than Fangblade, and protects against Roaches if needed as well as other Storm shenanigans.
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>>169666156
>AA1
>sword
>cancer

I'm not suprised shitters call anything they don't like cancer.
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>>169665769
>>169665798

Washiwa
Washiwa
WASHIWA
WAKAIKOROWAKAIKOROOBOEDASUWAI
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84161 Can I get a concede?
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Can someone explain to me why this card is silver and not at least gold?
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>>169666358
>SWORD
>EVER NOT CANCER
If Daria didn't exist, aggro storm sword would be literally unbeatable.
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>TFW just started game and want to play dragon
>After a favorable start getting a bahamut and forte in my initial packs, get absolutely no good dragon rares or legendaries whatsoever, or even neutrals that I can ramp
>I have just gotten my THIRD daria from packs

Do I just accept my appointed fate as a dariashitter and craft Levis now? Even without OLD AS DIRT, my rune list shits all over every other deck I have the cards to make just because of the triple daria.

I just wanted to meme
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>>169662594
Yup, just like Themis and Bahamut have never been used when the player had anything on their board either.
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>>169666381
Why is skullfane Legendary and not silver?

Why is beast dominator not silver?

Why is gobu bronze?

Why isn't mordecai a legendary?
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>>169666347

>implying

You're shameless waifu cannot kill a follower while hitting face.
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>>169665935
I've gotten 6 Eidolon, one of which is even animated.
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>>169666381
bec unlike Aurelia, he is conditional

oh wait...
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>>169666489
just liquify your darias and spend all on a meme deck
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>>169665935
I got 7 Eidolon of Memes and literally got my one (1) Imperial off of the Free 7 Packs
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>>169666460
It gets beat by any good control deck with decent wards or heals or board clears

It gets shit on by khawy and death's breath.
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>>169666527
Atleast you got an animated one. I pulled 7 non-animated fucking dragoons. I really hope discard dragon gets something good next pack so I can finally use the dragoons...
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I like Arisa's new voice better

It's gentle and cute.
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>>169666673
>>169666527
>>169665935
>all those people complaining about free legendaries

Fuck YOU all, i wish i could get even a shitty one when i open a RoB pack
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>>169666685
Except if they draw 3 alberts. You're retarded bro, how's C0?
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>>169665935
i've got 7 Darias and one of them animated fuck this gay ass game
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>>169666381
He has no need to be. Plenty of bronze/silver that get their merit out there.
>Floral flurry
>when the gobu gets tough, the feena gets gobu
>Dragon "When I grow up I wanna be a levi" Warrior

stay under the radar, khawy.
You really last word my mordecais.
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>>169665661
I'm surprised nobody said Kaleido.
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>>169666936
kys dubcuck
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>>169666521
It doesn't need to, the fact Fangblade can do both is his strongest point, but sometimes you just need Albert for the finisher and Charlotte can stall whereas Fangblade can't.

Charlotte can still be used defensively even hitting face since she's a ward. Whether she needs to hit a face is dependent on the Albert lethal.

Fangblade's weakness is that he doesn't protect against Roaches to the face very well.
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So glad this was before the mulligan and not after
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>>169665805
Unless you're a literal retard who doesn't read descriptions or you decide you don't care and you're running a 2/3/4/7/8 spread you're fine
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>>169666489
>>169666830
>>169666936
Kys
Dub
Cuck
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>>169666830
but it's not what im used to
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>>169665661
Lotta people gonna defend her cause she's a meme, but this little shit rubs me the wrong way.
<---
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>>169667118
What roaches nigga? It's all nep, sword and dragon in masters at least for me
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>>169667186
Stay mad, okay?
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>>169666518
Mordecai is a trash card without Nep you gigantic dummy
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>>169667212
I wish she would rub me the right way
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>>169665820
Not sticking to anatomy based art or at least using a pose doll

>>169665935
I got 5 Bloody mary's. The RNG just works in mysterious ways

>>169666073
Illegal immigrants git out reeeeee. Stay in your containment
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Alright, /svg/, after playing it for a bit I admit - I like this game of yours more than Hearthstone.

1. More free stuff
2. Not as p4deck as HS.
3. Actual decision making and a solid learning curve are present while in HS the correct play is obvious 99% of the time.
4. Not related to HS but still - there's always an opponent to have a match against unlike other card games with good mechanics but without a solid playerbase.

Joined too late into the season though and spent some time to learn shit, gonna climb some ranks in March.
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Nep sleeve when
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It's funny as fuck
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>>169665661
WITH A hurr AND A durr
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>>169665935
I pulled 4 Dragoons and 0 Alberts. Thanks Cygames
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https://my.mixtape.moe/xppurm.webm
Never concede, never surrender, because your opponent may make retarded plays.
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>>169663306
Aggro

If you can't beat them by turn 8 you deserve to lose fampai
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>>169666347
She can't kill a lot of shit, she can get killed by a trade and change or just the change after she fails to clear the way. 4 attack is just ass so much.
Whereas fangblade clears the way and burns

>>169666381
He filled a desperately needed role in shadow and was made silver so people actualyl had it.
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>>169667449
What aggro is viable now? Just Shadow?
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>>169666489

Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 1400 gold total
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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Is running 2 illusion hares a wise decision?
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>>169667334
At least you're not playing Dshift.
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>>169667186
Kys Weebcuck
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>>169667186
>weebcucks
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>>169667595
Running that card is not a wise decision at all.
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>tfw deafcuck
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>>169667535
Sword, shadow if you're lucky

Blood can also but it bricks the hardest.
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>>169667535
I would say both aggro sword and aggro shadow is very viable

aggro blood only somewhat - as you tend to actually help your opponent in aggro mirrors
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>it's a daria goes second and no matter what you do they will just completely outdraw you episode

How did cygames take a look at runecraft, see that 100% of all runecraft decks run x3 Levi and then think to themselves "you know what, I bet the problem is Piercing Rune."

I mean for fucks sake, it's a more flexible(except against... shadow) priest of the cudgel for 2 PP.
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>>169667334
>daria
no
stop
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>people odin my Leondias Resolve

I just wanna have fun you fucks
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Is Elana Seraph good again since Roach is dead?
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>>169667731
I find Shadow bricks the hardest because it's so reliant on two cards.
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>>169667186
KYS Weebcuck
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>>169667468
And Fangblade does jackshit against a bird ready to be popped or any storm from hand like Albert.

They're different cards with different uses and ward has an extremely important one.
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>>169667807
There's still aggro blood, buddy
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>>169667763
kikegames doesn't want to nerf golds if it can help it
they only nerfed homecoming because it was a tossup between homecoming and roach/AF/PTP
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>>169666489
If you've actually played ccg's before and you like playing ramp, then you can just liquefy whatever and chug on.

Otherwise just play whatever you want. If you have a deck like your daria it's easier than running a budget but you can still budget.
You'll get about 1200 vials a week from dailies. A little more the less interested you are in playing X. Just work your way to it while tinkering on your 6 dailies decks. you need to learn matchups and get practice anyway

>>169667728
>My sound is garbled distorted trash only for shadowverse

>>169667763
Just board clear and ward bro :^)
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>>169667807
Dragon is more popular now, so I'd say Elana is actually worse off
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>>169667334
>rune
actually, hearthstone is much better you should go and get ready for ungoro.
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>>169667728
how can you play the game if you cant see????
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to go even further beyond
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>>169667728

Same here my friend. Does it count if I'm using a cochlear implant?
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>mfw that Luna new chapters
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>>169667334
>3. Actual decision making and a solid learning curve are present
>Plays Daria

Do you actually believe this?
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>>169667334
>Daria
>Learning
>Decision making
Are you 8?
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>>169667812
Sword actually bricks harder for me because you need to have the right amount of commanders and officers. Not to mention if the opponent clears the field/heals/wards up it's auto concede while Shadow can still finish games thanks to burn.
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>>169668064

Don't worry, anon. The pain went away at chapter 14.
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To the anon who said Azazel was underrated last night, I've been playing with the single copy I have and I agree.

He's been fantastic against haven, dragon, and dshift. I've stolen a few matches already because they don't expect the burst.
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So I just noticed I have 3 animated JO crystals.
Anyone have a fun JO list?
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This fucking faggot ass game has an algorithm to make you win and lose after certain matches
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>>169668064
wtf is happening to that bird
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>>169668064
>Robber killing intensifies
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>>169668208
It's more that just the majority of the playerbase are retarded bandwagoners that don't understand anything their netdeck doesn't spoonfeed them,

>>169668252
>>169660692
It's more of an archetype than a specific deck. Different choices affect how it plays out.

>>169668268
Post your last 50 game record
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How much of a coin toss is the game right now?
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>>169668207
How long do you think it took for the pain to go away when the burglar put his cock inside her?
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>Can't get royal in T2
>Impossible to netdecks in constructed
I sure do love losing to the 5th daria in a row in unranked
this event is so fun
RoB is so good
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>>169668064
You wonder sometimes how similar animals are to humans. That reminds me of the webm people post of the lioness and her clearly crippled and dying cub.
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>>169668396
>SEAnigger gets what it deserves
laffin
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>>169668157
We get it cuck, you don't have a Daria deck. Get over it.
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are people still running goblin mage in aggro shadow or is she ded
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>>169668453
????
I'm an American
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>>169668506
if you were running gobu in aggro shadow, you need to play a different game
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>>169668469

>he legitimately thinks daria takes effort or any form of learning

The only "learning" required is not to play into mass removal and not to flood the board directly after a daria.
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>>169668157

>daria is the only deck in this game

You are going to ignore Nep the ever changing deck, right?
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>>169668646
Again, cuckold, we understand. You don't need to try and show off.
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>>169668469
>Dariashitters getting defensive cause they spent all their vials and/or can't play any other deck that isn't autopilot.
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>SFV collab

What the fuck were they thinking
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>>169668721
The guy he's replying to has almost all his games as Daria and presumably that's the only deck he's played in a ranked capacity.

Why are you bringing nep into this.
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My wife Feena is so cute
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>>169667793
>tfw the other dragonbro blow up my field with three JO crystals on it with bahamut
No cool, bro. NOT cool.
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>>169668757
>Non-Daria cucks jumping in when they see their comrades getting BTFO
Fixed.
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>>169668407
All animals, which include us humans, have feeling anon.
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>No Nep, Kawaii or Morde
>Make deck based around killing my creatures anyway and just play pretending I'm going to drop a Nep
>It works
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>>169668974
If you're going to JO in front of him you can't expect him not to fuck you.
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>>169668374
0

You can put in value cards to take away evo advantage and make the most of your hand

Bulks, heal, removal and board clear sucks away his draw

Your draw and hand neutral keeps your hand alive

Curve and card choices help avoid dead draws and get full pp use

Good play choices and matchup knowledge helps you seize and maintain momentum throughout so you can nut
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>>169668897
>tfw she'll never blow you away
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>>169668897
but that's my wife???
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This game is so much more fun when you don't netdeck.
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>>169668469
Still down a conjuring force, some rimewind/caprice, a dragonbond mage and other bits sadly. Also don't have enough for a decent dirt list so I gotta slum it out with daria when I can't reroll out of rune dailies. Spellboost and vomit is a pretty low bar dude.
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>We're back boys!!!
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>>169669443
What's budget aggro forest? I want a new forest deck but I don't got any Cynthias
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does anyone have a dirt rune decklist that doesn't suck?
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>>169669489
I also win with aggro decks when I get luckier than my opponent
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>>169669416
Back off???
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>>169668407
animals are very different from humans in how they perceive the world

try to imagine it - almost all animals don't recognize themselves as a separate entity i.e. they don't have self-consciousness whatsoever; also almost all animals don't understand how things are connected to each other i.e. they don't understand causality (obviously they often act as if they understood it, but it's either an instinct or a complicated trial and error acquired conditioned reflex)

but then, they have feeeelings, that's true. emotions are a pretty primitive mechanism and apparently you can have them even if you don't have a "self"
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>score rewards reset tomorrow night
who /sleeveless/ here
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This is your daily reminder

>Lunas bow to Burglars
>in contact with MILFs and daddies
>possess meme abilities
>control dicks with a lace fringe
>owns skeletons & zombies locally
>direct descendants of Mr. Bones
>will provide Last Gasps for the first meme decks on Mars
>Luna's Mom will be the first transcendental Ara in Shadowverse
>own 99% of trash decks
>first mill deck will be a Luna deck
>both Mommy and Daddy said to have cookie jars, such cookie levels have only existed on Shadowverse deep in the Gourmet Emperor's Kitchen
>ancient weeb scriptures tell of two lolis that will descend upon Rowen and bring an age of underage ara ara~
>they own rocks around the world
>you likely have undead lolis inside you now
>the Lunas are in regular communication with Cygames
>they learned fluent FATHER MOOOTHER in just 1 day
>other crafts entrusted their shitty cards to the Lunas
>there is no dead people in the underworld, only in Luna's vagoo
>Luna is about 13 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base timeline currently accepted by our society
>in reality, Lunas are immortal imoutos existing throughout all time and space
>we dont know their ultimate plans yet
>we hope their meme decks are not too shitty
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>>169668621
Guaranteed double reaper was pretty fun.

>>169668790
That they do it all the time in granblue and I guess the idolmaster sleeves were well recieved enough to go forward?

>>169669513
Asked a guy for help with dailies with the trash I had
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>>169669712
Man you only needed to get like 4-5 ranked wins a day to get it.
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>>169669443
That's cool, nothing wrong with wanting to play a different deck than what's popular. At least you don't complain about the players that use it instead of the people that put it in the game. Good luck.
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>>169669712
I literally hadn't played for the entire month until the event.

Decided after like halfway through the event to grind in ranked instead of unranked and got 4k.
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>>169669440
So when you stay in low ranks? Or I guess the alternative is getting to Master with netdecks and then just memeing like everyone else. But NO FUN ALLOWED if you want to climb ranks.
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>>169669652
>aggro deck

What did he meme by this?
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>Not playing Daria AND D-Shift
It's like you hate winning.
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>>169669894
How is storm haven not an aggro deck?
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So will the next prebuilt decks be rob x tog?
Seems likely
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>>169669675
how did you get this picture of my wife
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>>169669914

>playing either

It's like you hate yourself.
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>>169669914
Somebody with a 18 win streak in masters posted this spicy deck on Game-AI recently
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>>169669754
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>>169669864
>playing ranked

Why do you hate fun?
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>>169670134
Extra awards, anon. You might as well get points if you're going to play the game. Unless all you do is play take two.
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>>169670034
It's fucking useless senpai, if you draw Daria and DShift in the same hand then the Daria is bum.
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>>169669754
luna's mom has her cake always ready to be tasted
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>>169669948
how is storm haven an aggro deck? just because it deals face damage? its matchup spread against aggro and control decks fits the pattern of midrange decks, as does the amount of face damage it "typically" pushes during the first 4 turns. daria is a midrange deck for the same reason
you can't just call every deck with a T6 goldfish aggro
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>When you go all in on the double Dire Bond on turns 3 and 4 and don't care about burning your cards

Some match-ups you don't care what resources you lose as long as you always have a full hand of them.

Fucking ramp dragon, man...
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>>169670317
That's like saying storm/face sword isn't aggro
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>>169670034
Is this a new concede witch deck? With extra spicy bricks?
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>>169670384
I kinda wanna try it out, but it looks too high IQ for me.
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Need concede

75420
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>>169670383
storm have is midrange because it's pretty slow at the beginning

it doesn't have a million of storm followers on turns 1-3 like sword
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>>169669985
She gave them to me because she's my wife
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>>169670283
Nope, you get your Daria to 0 and D-Shift to playable cost (preferrably with Sorcery Cache) then combo them on the same turn. Won quite a bit with that.
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Oh, intern-kun, why are you such a troll?
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>Manage to play Atomeme on T2
>opponent Odin's it (fuck Dragon)
>play Ceridwen and evolve her thinking it will bring back my memes.
>it summons a Bone Chimera
>MFW I realize what I've done
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>>169665735
I'm here now, so everything will be okay! 'Cause I'm the best there is!
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>>169670525
Ah I see. And without the Flame Destroyers you have no higher a chance of bricking. But don't you struggle for face damage in the DShift turns sometimes?
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>>169670628
>not playing it on turn 3
Step it up anon, your lordship deserves better
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>>169669801
I don't care that they play it, I am irked when they're not self-aware of what it is though.
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>finally got to trials section for A0

Holy fuck finally.

Of the last 10 matches, there was 1 control blood, 1 control sword, 1 nep shadow, 3 Seraph and 4 Daria.

This meta is fucking awful.

At least for the final win against the nep shadow I got to back-to-back turns with a roach for 7 to their face to close on turn 6.
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>>169670628

Please don't make us shadow players look bad.
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>>169670628
I once saw a turn 2 Atomy and shit myself.

But that was during DE and I had Ancient Elf in hand, so it ended up becoming an embarrassingly easy win for me. GungHo hates Shadow.
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>>169670667
>WHAT
>WHAT
>WHAT
>HankHillRowen.PNG
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>>169670738
Good luck, anon!
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>>169670034
Brick fucking city of a solitaire
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>>169670738
Enjoy A climb it's even worse, then after that you're stuck in the trench that is AA
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>>169670469
Thank you Vampy-chan
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>>169670384
>Opponent with that deck manages to use a D.Shift
>Not enough board to kill me
>I win next turn with my own combo
It's a meme, stick to regular default dorothy
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Anyone else having trouble with the End Turn button recently? If I press too much to the right of the button it doesn't register now.
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What are you anon's going to do with your sheckles from elite ai 2? buy Bahamut packs or save them for Tempest?
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>opponent plays phoenix roost on turn 4

What do you do?
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>>169670738

>play forest with a roach lethal
>complain about the meta

I need to find an image of an amputated elf for this.
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>>169670738
>B3 meta
Just wait until you get to AA, the tryharding reaches levels previously unimagined
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>double silver bolt
WOW SO GREAT
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>>169670628
Every fucking time man
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>>169670490
*storm haven is
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>>169670710
If you were one of the other posts, I'm sorry you feel that way. Daria requires just as much knowledge of matchups as any other deck. Even a Daria godhand can be beaten if the player doesn't know what they're doing, and as a Daria player, I know from experience. To claim that my loss was simply due to my luck and not my mistake is an insult.
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>>169670874
satan
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>>169670874
start putting down my Neps, Khawys and Mordecais like they're going out of style
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>>169670874
If he started 2nd, I'm playing Bahamut to cuck him out of his Roost.
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>>169670789
it's her evolved flavor text :3
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>>169670873
I'm saving rupees for Tempest, trying to keep my willpower up. It's kind of hard when I want to snatch up some legendaries I dusted in the past. Speaking of which... what is the absolute worst dust decision you guys have made in this game? Or just the decision you regret the most? For me it's definitely a tie between dusting all my Satans right at the end of DE (because I thought it would never be a thing again), and dusting 3 Sahaqs that I pulled at the start of RoB because at the time they seemed godawful.
I still think she's not really good and am skeptical about the whole Sahaq/Lucifer thing (I think it's WAY too situational overall), but I can't argue with the results some people are getting with it. So that's like 10K dust I'll never get back.
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>>169670873
Buy Street Fighter leaders
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>>169670952
Yeah, because it's such a broken pile of bullshit it comes to that moreso than anyone else.
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>>169670874
Odin it. Then next turn put down my phoenix roost.
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>>169671069

>buy

That's the correct word, anon, but wrong currency.
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>>169671069
>sfv leaders
>rupies
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>>169670908

Better than having 70% of your matches be against either Daria or a flavor of Seraph, Elena or Elena Seraph.

>>169670879
Deal with it, nerd.
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>>169670874
Play Bahamut
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>>169670923
>Do very little to have 9 cards in hands on turn 8
>Do nothing on turn 9
>Do nothing on turn 10

>All to hit for 18

Why are you complaining?
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>>169671092
>>169670874
It's already reduced the cost of the card in your hand. That's why cost reduced roost into your own bahamut to baha early isn't a thing. Because they still have a hand of half off cards. It doesn't revert when you destroy the roost.
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>>169671158
>Elena

To what do you refer?
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>>169671084
That's right, Daria is so bullshit that's it wasn't even the most dominant deck before the nerf.
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>>169671158

>169 wins with 20k

You're right. You can definitely do better. What a shitter.
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>>169671040
Don't think I've made a bad decision yet, everything seems to have panned out in such a way that I havn't dusted any cards relevant to the meta decks that I play at least
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>deck builder now tells you what cards you're missing after entering a deck code, how many vials it'll take to build the rest of the deck and can autobuy the rest of the cards instead of doing it one by one
b a s e d
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Mating press Daria !!!!!!
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>>169671240
>someone is legitimately defending Daria
Jesus christ humanity you just had to decline even further didn't you?
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>Break lego dry streak with soul dealer
T-thanks.
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>>169671178
I Odin it and then put down mine next turn to send a message. Telling him nah bitch, mine is more dominant and better.
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>>169671345
>no argument
Dismissed.
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Does anyone have the webm of the Satan JO crystal combo?
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>>169671432
If you genuinely believe anyone needs a rational argument against Daria at this point you're either completely new to the game, or have amnesia. This has already been discussed to death, everyone acknowledges she's a broken card, and that the meta revolving around her has sent player numbers into freefall. Even Cygames has faced the music, and in record time.
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What are the chances Discard Dragon is actually gonna be tier 2 atleast in the next expansion?
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>>169671345

Not him, but it's currently the cheapest competitive deck.

Some newcomers have to Enjoy Shadowverse, after all. :^)
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>>169671175
They are able to generate a lot of faeries and have good odds of being able to have a wolf to fetch a bolt and net the kill. An AE or the tia play can get the dmg it needs to get lethal range.

>>169671240
You say that like it matters when they were and still are head and shoulders above the others by it being able to vomit and recharge vastly more pp per turn than anyone else/kill from hand or bounce wards and cause horrific damage from hand/kill from hand.. The only reason it wasn't the best was because roach could simply fetch and kill from hand without having to deal with such inconveniences like having board with board clears rampant or burning face enough.

>>169671345
What do you expect from a dumb kid?
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>>169671491
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>>169671547
I honestly can't tell if the team truly believes Daria is an okay deck. Thinking the Piercing Rune nerf does shit, advertising it everywhere- they really don't know how broken it is, or do they not care?
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>>169671532
Doesn't address my post.
>That's right, Daria is so bullshit that's it wasn't even the most dominant deck before the nerf.
Better luck next time.
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>>169671536
About 75%? It only needed some non-gimmick draw and some more on-discard/when discard stuff to round out. Basically meat for its skeleton. Ditto with Flute spire
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>>169671573
How come his first Phoenix Roost costs 0?
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>>169671621
>Roach was worse than Daria
>therefore Daria isn't broken

That's your argument. You're a fucking retard.
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>>169671547
>tfw no Isabelle wife
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Otohime+Aurelia vs Albert+Tsubaki for T2? I'm leaning right for topdeck potential.
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>>169671621

>easily ramps up the number of rune players that you see boobs for every other games
>has a heavy presence in tournaments
>then you have to guess whether it is dshift, daria or the black sheep of the family dirt rune

Really spellboosts my gazers.
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>>169671674
Emissary, cav+cav which is some pretty hard threading the needle
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>>169671568
I say it like it matters because it does. What measures the dominance of a deck is how often it wins, and how often it's played. Daria is not the deck that wins the most. And while rune was the most played craft, I don't know the percentages of how much it was played compared to Dshift or dirt. There are no tournament awards for "most followers played in one turn," "most damage from hand," etc.
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>>169671573
Holllly shit.
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98993

need a concede
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>>169671825
They don't balance the game off of tournaments, though. If they did, everyone would be saying right now: "Wow, Dragoncraft is T1 by a landslide!"
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>>169671825
Uh yes, it does and there's weeks of game statistics that prove that the two decks are head and shoulders above the rest.
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>>169671573
that was SPICY
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>>169671617

I think everyone of us has come across it at least once now. You killing their board only for daria to bring another batch back while burning your face off.

I suppose we have to blame the playtesters for the sloppy work, or they just play cards in a vacuum (eg: RoB only deck)
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>>169671621

Define "dominant."

Daria was by far and away the most played deck in the game. It's still by far and away the most played deck in the game.

Roach having a higher winrate across the field didn't really matter, because shitters would be shit or mediocre at best with it while Daria has little to no discrimination to how "good" its pilot is.
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>>169671693
Why would I define a deck that wins less as more broken than a deck that wins more?

>>169671787
>the deck is bad because many people play it
Wrong.
>the deck is bad because it creates a new archetype that players have to plan around
I agree, but this is more of a problem in SV because of a lack of sideboard. This problem won't go away unless you make all deck archetypes within a craft basically identical.
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Just started playing this week. Made a Dragoncraft deck since it seemed like 50% of the free cards I pulled were dragons.

Is Dragoncraft considered OP as fuck or something? Trying to play ranked matches and people keep conceding on their first turn.
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>>169671960
Or maybe they were trying to push Rune into cancer tier on purpose.
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>>169672001
>A new archetype
Oh fuck off it's just minions making minions cheaper until you play a minion that draws five minions and makes THEM all cheaper too.

That's not an archetype that's just bullshit.
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>>169671573

how is this balanced
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>>169672001
>Why would I define a deck that wins less as more broken than a deck that wins more?
Moving the goalposts. Your argument was that because Roach had a higher win rate than Daria, Daria wasn't broken, NOT that Daria was worse than Roach.
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>>169671573
This is a true combo deck. Eat shit elf faggots.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/ydmbdm.webm
>It's probably dshift, no wait it's dirt, nope it's daria
What a roller coaster of a ride it was.
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>>169671617
I suspect it's the latter. Two possible viewpoints: the cynical low level, "Who cares? This easy deck looks sexy and attracts bad players to the game", or the high level, "Sure it's broken but we are putting out a new set every 3 months, in the long run this won't even be a blip". They seem most sensitive to statistics (they used overall stats to defend D Shift from nerfs forever, and to say that T1/T2 win ratios are fine), and stats showed that Runecraft was out of control. My guess is that is the only reason they did anything in the short term, the pure statistical avalanche of Rune.
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>>169671861
update: 40892

still need it pls help
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>>169671825
Also, its playrate is approximately, 4x the dshifters and x8 the dirt runers with a higher winrate pretty consistently in the weekly stat drop. The winrates for roach and daria are generally about even as well with wolf techs generally pulling ahead with their consistency agaisnt counter attempts
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>>169672058
they're probably sandbagging, i.e. losing on purpose so they stay low rank
dragon is considered kinda meh
maybe figure out what you do wanna play then reroll if you still can?
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>>169672090
Everyone craft this tier 0 deck RIGHT now.
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>>169672000
My bad.

It's not my concern how often Daria is played. I only care about how good the deck is. By dominant, I only mean how likely the deck is to win.

>Daria has little to no discrimination to how "good" its pilot is.
Wrong.
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>>169672108
*Roach was worse than Daria
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>>169671621
>that's it wasn't even the most dominant deck before the nerf.
But that's wrong. It had a worse winrate than roach because everyone way trying to counter it because it was the most dominant. If Daria didn't exist midrange decks with multiple wards would destroy roach's winrate.
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>>169672058
Dragon is the designated meme class.
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>>169672141
I pulled Bahamut and Satan. I don't think I'm rerolling.
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does control blood make me a bad person?
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>>169672240
No, you're playing the thinking man's deck. Only JO Dragon takes more skill.
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>>169671825
And the statistics of times played and winrate which are pulled from shadowlog
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/news
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>>169672001

Aside from it being cheap vial-wise, it is most played because it can just cheat out win with how spellboost work by bringing out overstatted followers on turns they are not meant to be, sometimes in a large number. That doesn't include their core legendary able to draw into 5 cards after they have emptied their hands.

PR's nerf was supposed to stop this, but the deck can still do crazy things if they manage to keep one or two superman.
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>>169672108
I have no idea what you're talking about. Please explain if you expect me to continue.
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>>169672230
You can pull those + way more when you re-roll.
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>>169672240
Yes the official list of cancer decks are
#1 Daria
#2 D.Shift
#3 Control Blood
#4 Dirt Rune
#5 Any deck that can win by turn 4
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>>169672230
Have fun trying to get the 13 other legos needed to make the deck viable.
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>>169671861
>>169672135
Thanks, spook-san.
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>>169672230
Bahamut and Satan are both neutral cards you baka
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>>169672230
are those the only two significant legendaries you got? because unless they cut all the free packs for some reason you should probably have more good shit

bahamut is good and satan's not bad, but just those two is hardly instant-keep imo
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>>169672350
Not my problem if you can't remember your own posts less than 20 minutes after making them. Perhaps you should re-read them.
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>>169672417
>I can't explain myself
Dismissed.
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>>169671158
what's that pic supposed to imply?

i hit a0 with 169 wins, it's less than you (you have 169 while being on trials i.e. you will get a0 with at least 170-171 wins) and i mainly played blood and shadow, asked out of curiosity and was told it was about average too

meantime you exploited the best deck in the game with... average results?
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>>169672491

He is a shitter. That's all to it.
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>>169672482
>I can't go back a few posts to see what the fuck I was saying

May as well have posted a smug anime girl face while you were at it.
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>>169672365
I don't mind facing control blood at all, on any deck. Dunno why people would find it cancerous. It's a control deck, a very weak archetype in the current state of the game, with holes and weaknesses you can drive a bus through. If a control deck is going to be called cancerous, it would be Haven.
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>>169671617
As mtg players, I think they probably do and figure, you can play to win and accept your loss or you can have those wards, heals, and board clear/removals

>>169672058
No, they're sandbagging so they don't have to deal with the cancerous meta.

Dragon's meh. A good deck with strong draws is pretty powerful when it gets its ramp off. It's not all that good if it doesn't and worse if it can't nut by the time that pp advantage is spent because their gimmick is irrelevant while everyone else's (except blood) is still in play. We're probably not gonna get some decent non-gimmick draw next xpak so non-ramp will still be hurting at hand size.
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>>169665935
I don't know anon.I've unpacked like 7 albert, 6 matriarch, and 6 wolf from 150+ packs and not a single daria and imperial kaiba.
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>>169672565
Yeah, vampy is truly a shit.
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>>169672568
Glad you took the time to respond with that instead of something of actual value.

Again, dismissed.
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>>169672482
>replying with "Dismissed" every time someone rips apart your arguments
This is why other boards have IDs, so we can ignore morons like you
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>>169671787
>No mention of the memebond force dragons
Really fiery fate's my dragon board
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>>169672602

The problem here is that those wards, heals and board removals are usually too slow to do a thing against Daria.

If they are mtg players, they should know better about Affinity and how that warped the standard when it's available.
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>>169672674
I'd be willing to continue the discussion if you explain what you mean, since that other poster evidently doesn't want to.
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Can someone list all the cards that can be used to counter Mordecai?
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>>169672602
>No, they're sandbagging so they don't have to deal with the cancerous meta.

Is there a certain rank past which you don't want to hit or something? As a new player things are still going pretty smoothly for me with my non-netdecked shadow deck, but I'm not looking forward to unlimited Daria works in the higher ranks.
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>Have 2 DoDs in my deck and no other high mana cost spells
>Draw both of them 3 games in a row in my starting hand
???
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So, the GBF had a series of 4 daily rewards, ending with olivia sleeves. Is that it for event-related daily rewards? Nothing new for the next 2 weeks apart from finishing up the "win 9 times with each class" missions?
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>>169672602
>as mtg players
I have to call bullshit on this one, sorry. MTG has blocking, interrupts, and a plethora of other complicating factors. Shadowverse is Hearthstone with Evolution. If we were talking about Eternal, maybe that would be alright thinking to have.
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>>169672181
After 2 months of people determined tooth and nail to claw daria down regardless of how much it hurt their other matchups, it's still at >50% winrates. That's how good it is.
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>>169672709

Sahaluci? Thing is it actually works if you ramp right in time, the problem is that you need to have both romeo and juliet in your hand. Big fat dragon, a demon and a horse-riding dude don't cut it.
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>>169672365
>tfw 4 7/7 guardian golems
Really insights your topdeck prayers
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Will Tempest give Magisa the buffs she deserves?
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Can someone post that new Midsword list with the angels and stuff? I saw it here before but forgot to save it.
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>>169672797
I agree that it's a better than average deck. But if it wasn't Daria, it would be something else. If there are decks that perform <50%, there must be decks that perform >50%. My guess for a possible reason why is that they didn't actually play the decks that do counter Daria, such as roach, dragon, and haven.
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>App crashes on my phone so much I can't even get past the daily reward screen
>Massive slowdowns and lag on the Steam version

GREAT UPDATE
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>>169672928
Are you talking about this one?

http://game-ai.jp/24951/
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>>169672365
>Control Blood
>Literally a deck that loses to everything except aggro
>Cancer
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>>169672726
Yeah pretty much.

>>169672783
You can be matched up to your rank +/-2 so C if you already left D is kind of the last chance to dodge serious tryhardsville if you want to be able to play memes without being mauled for it. Since your rank influences yoru unranked matchups it's not even like you can do into Dailysville anyway.

>>169672791
We got packs when one of their mtg pros won a tourney

>>169672872
token Conjuring force feat. off curve/topdeck dragonbond mage and a socked embrace/fate's with 1-2 drops for getting the durr's out
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>>169673131
I didn't mean that they aren't MTG players, but that we can make some comparison to MTG. Shadowverse just isn't similar at all to it, mechanically.
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>>169656242
Had best results with Storm Haven (out of Daria, aBlood and aShadow).
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>>169655729
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>5 legos (3 lucifer, 1 sasq, 1 forte) off playing the super expensive meme dragon deck.

I have enough dust to craft 2 more, suppose I should get forte and the other sasq and work from there.
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>>169672940
Are you seriously not aware of the shortcomings of a deck that achieves 8 dmg for 4pp, 11dmg for 5pp, ramps 0-12pp from a 3 drop when the others are 2:1, 3:1, 3+evo:1, 6:2, 0 cost draw which bypasses the traditional failure of draw, 0 cost followers that bypass the traditional failure of having to play removal or other cards, and a cheap-0 cost hand replacement which also ramps said cards right into 0 cost/cheap territory? And this is all in a deck infested with hand neutral cards which tie-in to spellboosting. cont.
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>>169671573
how long did you fish for this
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>>169673296
Had the exact same experience. I tried with aggro blood, and I was fucked when I got to Daria. Tried storm haven afterward and won on my first try. After that I tried storm haven every time aggro blood didn't work and I won them all.
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>>169672940
* Up to 15 0 cost follower cards in a 40 card deck
* Up to 6 0 cost draw positive draws
* Up to 12 cheap neutral draw cards allowing it to fully utilize its pp on curve, have its spellboosts in hand to keep the combo going and have an obscene amount of removal allowing you to trade it for unprecedented value and tempo
* Up to 3 0 cost removal
* Up to 3 tutor spellboost pseudo-ward and get 1-4+ spellboosts to your whole hand while surrounded by the board of 0 cost followers resulting in getting fucked hard no matter what you do be it removal, trade or (trying) to face race
* Dhift hybrid means you're always facing lethal basically the entire game
* Removal cards out the ass so when you drop followers to force him to evolve, you just remove his repeatedly until he can't nut and you're still sitting on 2-3 if you want to. (you wont but still)
* Has up to 48 burn damage
* Has 7 dmg for 3pp (eat shit dragon warrior), 8dmg for 4pp, 11dmg for 5pp
* Numerous board clears which combo with many, many, many other cards allowing them to clear an entire board, fill their own board, and draw ~3-9 cards 3 to 4 times in a row thanks to the power of their draw engine
* Has ~12-18 cards that will get rid of the big bad cannot be targetted boogeyman without even needing to trade followers which you would think they'd be able to serve their purpose as a counter to rune/dragon but you'd be wrong. Plus it doesn't even matter anyway because rune will out-burn anyway
* Has the absolute easiest time removing Morde/Khawy/Elana/Seraph/etc. and even a resolve if Ben Brode forbid they're not dead yet
It's just too interconnected with a mechanic that's too good.

Rune is infuckingsane
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>>169673005
Yup, that's the one. Thanks, fampai.
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>>169673068
>tfw still lose against aggro if no answer/healing by turn 4


Just
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>>169673439
happens every other game bro
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>>169673381
All that matters is the win-loss ratio. If you're claiming that this deck is actually extremely overpowered compared to roach, dragon, or haven, show me the evidence to back it up. Daria has been steadily declining in wins while its counters have been rising. As I said, I don't care about prevalence, I care about wins vs. losses, because wins that's what determines the power of the deck.
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>>169673470

If anything, I like how Daria can nonchalantly throw that Crimson Sorcery at your face going second, because he has more coming that he doesn't need to keep one for strategic removal.
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>>169672997
I'm not having this problem. Maybe try reinstalling?
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>>169673005
This deck looks like average, what makes it so good?
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>>169672997
Delete your cache or so I heard.
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>>169673662
I already posted the list of analytics for all the weeks of RoB Shadowlog entries and Daria is out of control.
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>Play dragon
>Play against 3 nep decks
>Lose against 3 nep decks
>Quit game
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>>169673724
Tsubaki
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>when its time to ramp up and JO with your bro
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>>169673837
But Forte is a girl (female).
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>>169673837
What does JO stand for?
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>>169673662

Not him, but do you have any ideas why people are running counters against it? Clearly it's not so weak that it can be preyed upon, right?

>running counters that can still lose to the nutdraw
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On a scale of 1-10, how broken would this card be if discard dragon had this at 3pp and all previous cards with discard effect from RoB/DE/Standard changed from "discard lowest PP card" to "choose any card to discard"?
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>>169673926
See >>169657873
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>>169673895
you can be a girl and still have a penis, shitlord
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>>169673984
>3pp for net +1 card
Late game that's great. It's trash on curve though. Almost unplayable.
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That Daria D-Shift deck is pretty fun
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>>169673662
Let me put it another way, Daria won more games last week than roach was played with a positive winrate across the board agaisnt everything except otk roach which was virtually even still after SEVEN weeks of people trying to chemo it out.

>>169673820
Just ramp up and draconify/Odin or kill them before t8 bro :^)
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>>169673470
Are you sure you're not confusing Daria with Dshift or rune? I'm not sure why you're complaining that rune has multiple viable archetypes, other than my previous problem, that it makes matches into a guessing game. And again, see my other post, where I ask for how often Daria wins. It doesn't matter how many "crazy" plays you can pull off when you don't win the match.

>>169673789
Daria: 53.7%
Roach: 53.5%
Aggro sword: 55.4%
Elana seraph: 54.8%
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>>169674043
With dragonmancer rite it draws 5 cards.
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>>169674063
Kill yourself
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>>169673984
You are like a little baby
Watch this
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>>169674095
Which is why I said it's fine late game but trash on curve. Dragon needs consistent card draw/card draw with stuff attached, not burst card draw.
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>>169673984

Why would you use that to begin with?
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>>169674043
It would be good on curve if the add more cards that trigger effect when discarded.
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>have crappy cards
>new story ai feels like playing against those bs yugioh ai with 3 raegeki and 3 dark holes all the time
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>>169674162
this is the reason I still run low-power cards like sudden shock in vintage. Fuck I love magic
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>>169674075
Again, I don't understand why you're bringing up how many games were played. Neither roach nor Daria are niche decks. They're both good, it's not a problem with sample size.

>>169673953
I'm okay with this because I'd prefer a metagame that isn't just rock paper scissors. It's boring to load up a game and see a huge favorable matchup either for or against you. Of course, the problem with Daria is that it's often reliant on luck to get a good draw. Which just makes me think the deck is worse, not better.
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>>169673984
That card is broken because there're way too many bullshit you can do with discarded card since they have a graveyard, which Discard Dragon have no way to interact with discarded cards.
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>>169673984
>>169674162

I rather have this in dragon.
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>>169674167
>curve

Just ramp up. How do you think saha ramp actually works. The card draw is not the the only benefit it allows you to choose exactly what card you want to discard. One of the biggest problem with discard dragon is that if you have a 2pp card and have salamander breath or any enchance card, it has a chance to discard it even though you are at 8pp which is dumb. Same thing with dragon emmisary, if you get call of the coytus its enchance effect still activates at 8pp. I guess they are trying to prevent the power creep of neutral cards from dragon.

>>169674203
Graceful carity allows you to pick the card you want to discard. This alone makes it better.
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>>169673984
>discard two Trail of Lights
>draw 5 cards
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>>169674447
We have cards that spellboost twice, why can't Dragon have cards that ramp twice?
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>>169674447
>assuming mana is temp - turn 3 Draconic Fervor
Yes please.
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>climb to AA1 with horrific meme decks
>these no longer work due to how solidified the meta is
What should I do, /svg/? The game keeps giving me ranked missions.
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>>169674503
Ramp is a permanent spellboost basically. Magic lets you ramp like crazy but you can actually kill the ramp creatures.
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>>169674540
It doesn't heal or draw cards. Should be fine :^)
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>>169674597
Build a cheap aggro blood deck and hope for the best
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>>169674091
Includes tech choices. after 7 weeks of people breaking their balsl to try and stop them, the only thing better is roach with both of them being heads and shoulders above the rest of the decks.

Aggro and elana/seraph have preferred matchup carrying their ratio if you look at what they actually win against. This is also 7 weeks into people trying to counter the roach/daria cancer that have 31% of the game's played between them 12.69/18.72 respectively.
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>>169674609
What ramp the creatures so much?
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>>169674609
Also, not to mention that the color of ramp in Magic typically doesn't have access to much removal, much less a board wipe attached to a creature with more than half your life in power.
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>>169674492
I like how the person design erika uniform thoughts went like
>yea maid uniform are nice but need to have a boob window to showcase the chest
>long skirt are nice, mini skirt are nice too, let's have both
>add frills, some steel armor and there we have it, a battle maid
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>>169674597
Netdeck
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>>169674725
Erika honestly looks like she was designed by someone having a seizure. Which is weird when everyone else is so coherent.
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Nothing feels better than banishing a Mordecai with Blackened Scripture
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>>169674771
Wasting vials on decks that could easily be trash in about a month doesn't seem like a great idea.
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>>169674725
It's what I would make my battle maids wear. Also nopan.
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Reminder that Luna's lewdness is inherited
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>>169674816
Bane should bane things. Y/N
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>>169674914
BANE?
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>mess up the order in killing yurius so I take one damage i didnt have to
>it ends up mattering
fuck
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>>169659428
>>169660036
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Is Erika a psycho?
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>>169674816
There's a better one:
Banishing Nep, Liches and Mordecai with a Calamitous
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>>169674890
Netdeck something you have cards for?
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>>169674503
The pp cap is a bigger issue than not having ramp twice. Dragon needs a way to expand its map pp, even it it's only half value, to use next turn pp, to spend max pp orbs. to retain partial/x unspent pp orbs.

>>169674609
Consider the best case scenario, a t2 oracle gets you 7pp over a game and it goes downhill from there with 5/6 from aiela, 4 from fervor, and it goes down with each additional ramp. At first glace this is well okay sure but you have to spend pp to make up the lost momentum playing it cost you. This is further ravaged by simply not being able to spend all your pp depending on your draws leaving it just a waste. It's nice to t6 satan and shit but that's threading the rngesus needle

Rune gets well over 30pp of ramp a game. Even if you adjust it down to stat appropriate pp it's still far above dragon's ramp.
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>>169674910
It's just breakfast in the jp script though.
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>>169675009

No, she's a chicken who is afraid of someone finding out her past since she will be tried for it. So she will kill anyone who knows the truth, even the princess.
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>>169674664
The most well-known ramp card in Magic was a 1/1 creature for 1 PP that could make one mana per turn. In addition to that, you had other cards that could let you put more lands into play, which worked out much more like dragon oracle. This doesn't even touch upon the shenanigans you could get up to with these cards though.
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Elf twins Forestcraft leader when?!?!?!
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>>169675009
No, she's just constantly trying to suppress her nymphomaniacal tendencies.
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>>169674725
And I just noticed, 3 belts on each of her arms
>>169674890
More decks don't cost too much to netdeck, except saha ramp. Vials are easy to come by anyway.
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>>169674890
Crafting core leader golds adds a lot of power. There's also a lot of good future-proof cards to use.
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>>169675113
>Doing this during breakfast

LEWD
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>>169675210
I know you're shitting on her outfit but I think it's hot as fuck and don't care how ridiculous it looks
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You're fucking dead kiddo
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>>169675263
Rush isn't very good, though. That's just a bunch of removal bait. Flute is a Take Two meme.
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>>169675140
So basically, if you got all three of these out at once, you'd get 9 mana per turn and each additional one would be an extra 3 mana?

And if you don't get the combo immediately, you'd essentially triple the mana the turn you completed the set?
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>>169675145
>elf twins
>literally not twins
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everytime Unica dies I get really sad
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>>169675145
right is a qt
i need some oppai elf leader tho
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>>169674332
That's a common problem with combo deck. The answer is usually fix your deck or accept that with great nut draw comes great patience. t. meme ramper
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>>169675263
>Khawy
>ZOMBIE WALL
>Nep
>Mordecai
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>>169675367
It happens a lot
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>>169675367
Unica is flat!
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>>169675327
And I misread and didn't see the "instead of one".
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https://my.mixtape.moe/szfmhw.wav
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SHADOWVERSE ANIME WHEN!
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>>169675076
I don't have enough cards for any meta decks. Missing Alberts, Darias, Ancient Elf, Fortes, roaches, Cerberus, Seraphs, Merlins, etc. The cards have not been kind to me, which is why I'm forced to run memes like storm haven or Satan.

>>169675210
Disagreed. I've been hoarding vials for weeks and I don't even have enough to make two legendaries.

>>169675220
You never know when cards will fall out of the meta. Lord of the Flies was quite good prior to RoB, but now he might as well be a joke. Same can be said for Otohime.
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Who /madeit/?
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>>169675326
It's cheap "removal" that floods the board for massive face next turn. Not to mention, as long as he has 1 open slot he can keep crashing them into wards as long as he has a hand leaving the other 3 to face for 12-20 face. There's not a lot of AoE/bounce/target that can take out half/full boards of 3's
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>>169675326
>>169675390
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>>169675468
>Rage of Bahamut got an anime in 2014
>Granblue Fantasy got an anime in 2017
>Shadowverse will get an anime in 2020 (?)
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What are people using to climb to Masters from high AA with atm? I've hit a rut, have been stuck at the same point in AA2 for a few days.
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>>169675327
works more like this
he drops one of them per turn and uses the mana to cast spells that tutor out the other copies
turn 3 he has all of them and plays a game-winning threat on turn 3 (google karn liberated, turn3 karn is the signature move of this deck)
this is fairly weak ramping in magic overall, but its the best in certain formats like modern and pauper where the bullshit isn't legal
the REAL bullshit when it comes to ramping is stuff like cloudpost and mishra's workshop
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>>169675550
>A0
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>>169675562
you and me both
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>>169675521
Otomemes has come back now that the meta has stabilized. It'll always be gimpy agaisnt haven.
Was lord of the value ever considered core and not just an alright until you had better?
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I like nep but keep srtuggling in AA1.

I don't want to drop it yet so anyone have any good list I can try?
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>>169675550
Khawy is still there. How the fuck did that even happen?
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>>169675327
Yes. On turn 3 you could cast the guy on the left, which was a discard or removal every single turn until he was removed. And if you stall long enough with him, you get the guy on the right. In a new game on turn 1. And you thought Bahamut was bad.
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>>169675562
>>169675629
All of us.
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>>169675682
If I had to guess, it'd be involving the 8-12ish face per turn he'd be eating barring not getting a dragon counsel or fervor to keep going.
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>>169675629
>>169675770
I been between 41,500 and 43,000 for a week now. I have tried over a dozen different decks in that time.
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>>169675682
He conceded because I had enough damage on board to kill Khawi and his face
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>>169675547
>There's not a lot of AoE/bounce/target that can take out half/full boards of 3's
Themis, Revelation, Conflagration, Tempest, etc
You are right that it is a problem for aggro or tempo decks, but at 8 mana having a bunch of 3 health guys would make me nervous as a control player
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Holy shit this was close
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>>169675873
Who was responsible for convincing everyone that Zirmemetra was a thing?
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>>169675893
I dunno, but this was in t2
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>>169675807
Yes, same here.

Last night I tried playing Nep and faced D-shit/Havencraft 5 times in a row. If I switch to another Controle deck I get shit on by Satan.

Its weird. I can't get poast this no matter what I play.
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>>169675810
I haven't seen conflagration outside of a JO memer in ages, you can out-attrition blood while trying to line up a 1-turn kill without popping vengeance or at least he's in forte range, he probably already played his tempest and even if he didn't you have more to use than him. Haven's already gonna bend you over regardless.
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>>169675893
There was that list from game-ai, seen it only once on unranked.
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>>169675971
Meant to quote >>169675797


I'm going to bed. My brain ain't working no more.
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>>169675521
>Disagreed. I've been hoarding vials for weeks and I don't even have enough to make two legendaries.
I don't get it though.

Have you done your 20 private games for 2000 gold? Have you done the elite AI battles? Have you done the new elite2 AI battles? Do you do your dailies every day?

You get so fucking much free shit in SV. I've been playing for a few weeks and I could already craft a Saha Ramp list if I just vialed the shittier non-meta legendaries I have.
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>>169675893
>13+12+4 = 29
Be t2 bruh

It's not but you can do from pretty crazy shit with Neptune+queen serpent, Zirnitra, grea, demonic simalacrums, and Olivia. Haven and cblood are the only ones with the board clear to keep up and often it's not for long.
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Make a new thread with best waifu OP
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>>169675807
What about the Khawy's effect. That Shadow player is stupid?
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>>169676073
>>169675993
I only asked because I've seen it in ranked at AA
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>>169675263
Makes me want to tech a Reina
I hate that wyrm spire takes a board slot so much.
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>>169675971
>>169676047
Yeah no matter what I play I get my counter at least 2/3s of the time. Aggro ends up being against ward and heal decks and control ends up being against DShift. Fuckinga wful.
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>>169676059
Oh, I've been playing for quite a while. Since a bit before the start of RoB.

The initial deck I focused on was control blood, and that didn't work out so great in RoB. So most of my starting vials were for nothing.
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>>169675629
>>169675562
>>169675674
>>169675770
>>169675797
Why you just don't play Daria?

Pic related is a little old, Im already AA3 because I grinded like 6k points yesterday for the sleeves.
The nerfs literally made this deck better because there's not elfs decks at all, you only play versus slow control decks or mirror match.
I think I will reach Master this or the next week, basically I just login and go at least 6 win streak every time.

Protips:
-Don't use any of these shitty decks with meme cards like Fate's Hand or several Angelic Snipes
-Don't missplay
-Mulligan correctly
-Don't start switching decks like a retard, there's nothing better for ranked, just stick with it
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>>169676235
>quite a while
>since a bit before the start of RoB

Steam shitters everyone
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>>169676134
He only had two health left, so even after healing it would only take two dragons to kill him
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>>169676284
Because I only have 2 Darias. What would you say is a non-meme Daria?
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>>169676315
I said that because he assumed I was a beginner. A few months is quite a while compared to that.
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Is dragonsong flute ever gonna be a good card or have a deck built around it? I have one animated and I'm tempted to liquefy it.
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>>169676334
rip shadowbaby
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>>169676284
Link your dick and tell me your mulligan priorities
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>>169676174
It's basically worse than alternatives. If you ramp her sure fine, but otherwise, there's a problem having an evo that late. If you did ramp her, you could have ramped better cards that can actually win con.5/5's in an awkward place with later game wards/evos which leaves them vulnerable to weak cards/damage removal. Meanwhile, nep is dropping 2 5/5's without needing an evo, kills 1-2 followers, and heals itself. Roach is killing you. Sword has killed or is about to kill you since you're wide open next turn. Blood already killed you. Haven assblasts your board with hard removal making it for nothing. Rune has an orgy of options. Other ramps just baha your board or saha luci the damage and a dragon away
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>>169676284
You HAVE to go back
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I think I've seen more Ethicas today than in the past 4 months, what gives?
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>>169676495
>>169676495

NEW THREAD
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Is control forest even possible?
I slapped one and it seems I don't have a wincon.
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>>169676371
Yeah. Uriel tutors it. You can reliably overflow t5 and sometimes t4. It's basically waiting on some more high value low drops so you're fine until you get it. And more non-gimmick draw that's actually affordable so it can keep the hand alive.

>>169676527
Ramp up and blow your load. It's another 3 chances to nut.
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>>169676371
It'll always be bad since Dragon is just a class made around ramping to get big guys. I had two animated and liquefied both without any regrets.
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>>169676569
Nope. Forest cards are actually terrible, they're only ever viable due to roaches or ptp. Satan is your best bet but good luck drawing him with how shit their draw is.
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>>169676569
No. Others are better. It's getting there though.
Having to survive playing harvest festival/lionel hurts it.
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>>169676569
The closest thing you'll get to control are PtP and Silver Bolt with Wolf. PtP is alright, Wolf seems kinda suspect.
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>>169676631
>>169676741
>>169676771
Fuck, forest seem to have lots of nice removals and control cards in paper. I wish the upcoming expansion gives them a nice control friendly legendary and golds.

I've tried to run a wolfbolt, but it felt to be an alternate wincon for otkroach.
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>>169659248
lol.
Epic.. I love racism and bad posting. That's so funny dude. Maga!!!!!
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>>169677043
t.nigger
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>>169677043
>Replying to a post from 4,5 hours ago with "ironic" shitposting reeking of butthurt
Lmaooo
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>>169655764
Tyrant.
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Why does Seraph exist? You can't effectively kill Seraph unless you have an Odin in hand on turn 8 or you have an OTK on turn 8. The ways you can stall and heal yourself up with Havencraft are too numerous to count. Sun only makes things worse too.
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>>169677105
>>169677212
Nice bros. See you at the frat party later! Can't wait to beat up a *reads smudged print on palm* Ningro.
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>>169677458
because they realized haven didn't have a way to win games, other than a 10pp neutral card
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>>169677535
Why would anyone seriously reply to a post from 5 hours ago just to be butthurt about racism on fucking 4chins of all places?

See you at Reddit later. I'm not coming though.
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>>169677667
racism is ok, got it nigga
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>>169677802
Fuck off nigger. Nigger nigger nigger.
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>>169678304
this sounds like it's coming from a literal 9 year old
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>tfw Runeslut played two Dshift and still lose because my Satan wall is too thick
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Stupid haven player starts emoting over and over after playing Seraph hoping that I would concede, then disconnects when he can't win.

When will they learn?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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