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Lore of Metal Edition

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB
To update: META IN FLUX BOYS, DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO THIS DATED GUIDE. PLAY GELT NOW WHILE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>ACTUAL Total War News
Bretonnia and the patch is out.
To get Bretonnia ONE(1) day early(literally right now), sign up to https://dashboard.totalwar.com

Isabella isn't available until tomorrow it seems.

We have battle map creating tools now. Only land battles and only for custom/custom mp games. Siege battles may be a possibility in the future but they're practically covering their ears and screeching at any mention of using modded maps to improve the campaign.
UPDATE: PEOPLE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT ANYWAY AND OUT OF DAMAGE CONTROL CA WILL BE ADDING OFFICIAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING CUSTOM MAPS TO THE CAMPAIGN ALONGSIDE THE BRETONNIA UPDATE

Warhammer is $12: https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly
Not for much longer.

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

NEW
Update Info -- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/191504/bretonnia-update-patch-notes

>Recent
DLC (good goy) -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331

Suggested Mod Pack (You can pick and choose from the list, Suggested by anon):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

Previous Thread: >>169601931
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FOR ZHE LEHDEH
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Worship Khorne
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Xth for Isabella
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Lmao
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17 hours to worship/play as MAH LADY

I CAN'T WAIT!
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REJOICE
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H-here i go
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Why does the UI eat 5-10fps, i have porthole on 2d.

Get sick nasty fps increase when hiding it(hotkey K)
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>>169626081
just play now
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>>169626156
>Grail pilgrims
are they even any good
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>>169626081
Rejoice! For we suffer together for ze Lady.
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EMPIRE 2 W H E N
ANCIENT EMPIRES W H E N
WHY IS HISTORY TW FUCKING DEAD
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>>169625767
fucking sucks they buffed daddy gelt at the same time they released bretonnia. now i have to keep playing him

the lady will have to wait
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>>169625767
ROLLAN!
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>>169625764

AAAAAAAAAH

IT GETS CONSIDERABLY WORSE IF YOU CONTINUE TO BE A FAT PIECE OF SHIT
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>>169626036
link?
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>>169626036
is Denis retarded?
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>>169626573
Lmao wtf dude stop sitting in your settlement and go fight the orcs.
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>>169626573
Alberic de lazy
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>>169626172
cant

its still locked. sadly...
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>>169626573
>nobleman
>is lazy and a fat piece of shit

Makes sense desu
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>>169626573
GO OUT AND CRUSADE ON SOME FOOLS, YOU LAZY ASSHOLE
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>>169626172
I ain't doing that remove the game bullshit
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>>169626758
ok have fun not playing, retard. you can check reddit if you dont believe this thread.
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>>169625767
SUPREME
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P
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M
E
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>>169626371
They have frenzy and very high leadership. They'll hold a line longer than most other infantry and do a lot of damage to unarmored opponents, but any elite unit will eventually get through to them.
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>>169626758
Holy shit. I'd tell you to go to Plebbit but even they're smart enough to figure this out by themselves. Try NeoFAG, fag.
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>>169626573
>Maybe the game is telling me something.
>No that can't be it, clearly it is the game that is at fault.
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>>169626758
You're a fucking moron then. Wait till tomorrow.
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>>169626907
why did this gif make me laugh so much
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just got back from the doc, is this "fix" on leddit legit?
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First 20v20 as bretonnia, was pretty hard
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>>169626529
Roll
pls no dorfs
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Bretonnia izpzi meta

1. Max stack an army (fuck the penalty)
2. start confederation techs
3. Wait for rebellions
4. Auto resolve rebellions, farm XP and chivalry
5. When the event is over, start confederating
6. DON'T CONFEDERATE BEFORE THE EVENT ENDS
7. Kill Marienburg. Fuck those god damn jews.
8. ???
9. Profit!
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So, when playing Alberic you are supposed to travel to far away lands and kill shit?

I get this feeling with his starting position and start on a boat
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>>169627475
>>169627475
yes dummy.
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>>169626529
If I roll a lord I don't own I buy the dlc
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>>169627295
nvm, just loaded wh up and it finally worked

CA are still colossal retards tho, hope they abandon any plans for using TWA again
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>>169627475
You are supposed to go up north and fuck shit up for the snowniggers
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How do i economy with bretonia? I'm sop used to putting walls in every minor settlement for each race but that doesn't seem viable anymore.
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Jesus titty Christ there goes my first attempt at Bretonnia.

>lay siege on Marienburg
>orcs come out to play
>get defeated despite my knights' best efforts
>somehow retreat to THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER
>Marienburg teleports their army to Gorssel
>Orcs raid Couronne
>land back in Couronne
>die a violent death

Merde.
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HES BACK BABY
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>>169627768
The main building chain gives walls anyway so just spam economy buildings. Put the peasants to work.
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New to WH, but not Total War.

Is magic really, REALLY shitty?
I've been playing custom battles for a few days and I'm quite decent at it.
That is, as long as I use a conventional army.
Every time I try to add magic to the mix I end up with a Close Defeat.
And I've tried everything.
I thought that at least the support magic, using regeneration and shit would help, but heeeell no.
Seems like I'm better getting some artillery + infantry instead of a single wizard/whatever.

The only exception seem to be the VC.
Their abilities seem to be the only ones that have a decent impact on the battle.
>>169627295
100%
Guaranteed or your money back
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>>169627889
And people were saying Bret campaign will be easy.
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>>169627889
>Not farming greenskin spawns
>Not letting greenskins fuck Marienburg up
>Not Attacking greenskin settlement while their army is focused elsewhere
>Not saving marienburg from an orc attack
>Not being best bros with Marienburg
DO YOU EVEN KNIGHTLY VOWS?
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wew fucking lad

This was tough.

I know some people have been shitting on the Green Knight but he was absolutely essential here, took out the Red Duke and the other army's general right quick he did.
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>nabbed a code early when they were testing and now I'm stuck waiting until tomorrow because lol technical difficulties

Well, thanks for nothing I guess.
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>>169628124
So a tier 3 minor settlement has walls? That's all I need to know. Unwalled settlements are magnets for any enemy near your territory.
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>>169628231

Also got this fucking trait.

Farm Greenskins for the first 20 turns lad, it helps.
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>>169628124
>The main building chain gives walls anyway
Really honored my chivalry.
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Actually kinda disappointed Alberic doesn't have a trident. Seems like it would've been a nice touch.
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How are you supposed to start out as Bretonnia? Shiet Greenskins and jews barricate themselves and I just can't do anything
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>>169628506
There's already a mod for it
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So I'm impressed by the AI in Warhammer - and this is just on Hard mode. Does VH and Legendary simply give the AI extra buffs? Or does the AI get better as well?

Also, do you guys recommend battle realism mode? I had alot of fun with it in Shogun but it seems a bit well...unrealistic for a game filled with mages and magic and all sorts of technologies - seems to me every faction would have some means of observing the entire battlefield at all times.
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>>169628454
holy shit. i always restart my campaign when i lose a battle, so all my lords will have that trait.
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>>169628303
seems to have just installed without resorting to fuckery
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>>169628303
theres a fix on leddit, idiot
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>tfw your'e about to get culturally enriched by superior green semen spores
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>>169628683
They AI doesnt get any smarter on harder difficulties they just get leadership buffs. And from my experience "realism" mods or any total war just quarters the damage of all your units and makes battles 5x longer. they are always shit.
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>>169628841
Greenskins are all asexual.
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>>169628685
>i always restart my campaign when i lose a battle
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>>169628707

>permanently delete the DLC without deleting the main game then register a new total war access account and then get a new key

Yeah, no, I can wait until tomorrow.
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>>169628938
except for skarsnig, thats a very feminine greenskin.
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>>169628938
not in my headcannon they're not
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>>169628685
>i always restart my campaign when i lose a battle, so all my lords will have that trait.
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>>169628938
There was a book a while ago with implied rape from greenskins, sadly I haven't saved it, maybe someone here knows which one it is.
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>>169628850
Battle realism mode doesn't do anything to damage - it limits your view of the battlefield in a more "realistic" fashion I suppose.
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>>169628683

AI only gets buffs.

Which is why VH Campaign and Normal Battle is the best difficulty.
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>>169629001
It takes one (1) minute if you're not retarded. Are you retarded?
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>>169628643
Goddamn son. Link?
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Is there a consensus on what's generally better for lords in terms of leveling up?
Campaign bonuses, battle bonuses or character stats?
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>>169629180

No, it's 23:27 where I live, and I need to go to bed because I have to work tomorrow.

Nice passive aggressiveness though.
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>>169628146
No its just there's a lot of different variables to magic. You need to know the lore the spell and the target to really get the most use out of it.

You can't just spam magic attacks. You need to know to use certain spells against certain targets. generally armored spells against armored targets. And also try to pin the enemy in place before hitting them with a spell because they can dodge it.

but the same goes to you to.

A lot of unit buffs are also really good.
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>>169628643
>>169629205
>look it up
>it's real
What the fuck, so fast?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873575592
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>>169627889
Watch Legend's playthrough for how to win the first two battles as Brets and conquer Mareinburg & destroy Skullsmashers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7SCU8ROEBg
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>>169629137
>Normal Battle is the best difficulty.

AI can't match up to a human level of strategy,they need artificial bonuses to cover for that. in normal the human player has an unfair advantage.
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>>169629256
It all depends on the lord and what you want to use him for.

Having a lord get attrition reduction and combo him up with a attrition reducing hero is useful if you are going to get rid of norscan scum.
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>>169629329
then why are you complaining if you cant play early anyway? Thanks for answering yes btw.
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Whats generally better? Health, armor, or melee defense?
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>>169627889
I went straight for the greenskin tribe and wrecked them in one battle, then I sacked Grossel and peaced out with Marienburg for some extra cash.

Now I am just confederating stuff.
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>>169628146
Also if you're making an army in custom batttles. its actually best to modify the spells that your wizard brings. each spell has a cost and they're quite expensive, especially since you're limited in your winds of magic so its best to pick which spells you're going to use most often and only bring those and use the rest of the money on infantry.

Cheaper wizards or buying the right abilities is key in understanding multi player, too.
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AGE OF SIGMAR > FANTASY
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>>169626529
roll
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>>169629368
Its more fun to fight 3 units of gobbos than 1 unit of gobbo with +20 leadership. Meaning the veryhard campaign difficulty will spawn more armies, balancing it out.

You could also make it harder for yourself by not skilling the game breaking lord skills like lightning strike or anything that gives units huge melee attack/defence bonuses.
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>>169625767
>tfw
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REMEMBER THOU ART BUT DUST
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>>169629463
Health and armor over melee defense. Go for melee defense if your character has little of it compared to other stats.
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>>169629562
>my lotr fanfiction is better than your lotr fanfiction
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>>169629676
>try Legendary Belegar campaign
>can't tell the difference between normal and legendary gobbos
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>>169628482
Yeah you get walls, but you don't get a good garrison the walls will only slightly delay enemy armies until they build siege equipment.
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Steam says Bretonnia is fixed, but I can't check right now. Anyone who didn't delete the dlc confirm whether it's working or not?
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>>169628685
Why even play battles.

Why even play the campaign.
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>alberics trident gives bonuses to naval shit

fucking CA
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I heard Gelt got something more than just the lore of metal changes
Is he the best wizard there ever was now?
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>>169630145
Why even live.
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>>169630021
It is live
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>>169630021
yea came up for me about 30mins ago.
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>>169629802
I just wanted to butt in and remind everyone that The Last Ringbearer is the best LotR fanfic.
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>check steam
>Bretonnia is available already
WAIT WHAT
I didn't sign up for any meme shit
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>>169630231

The really big thing is that, if you pick him as your faction leader, all your troops in every army will get +10 armor

That's fucking significant
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>>169630443

assume they couldn't fix whatever the fuck with the keys so just opened it up.
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>>169626154
I just woke up and rollan
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Peasants put in some work
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>>169630231
His campaign ability is now +10 armor across the board. That may be the single most powerful ability in the entire game, arguably even better than vanguard deployment for one army.
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>>169628176
>not doing optimal strat
>not taking out greenskins turn 2
>not sieging Marienburg with your depleted army
>not defeating the defenders when they sally out

Do you even chivalry?
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>>169630224
Just wait til the other elves come around. Then the Duc de Bordeleaux can go around with his naval knights and wreck shit.
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>Beastmen manage to completely wipe out Estalia

Now THIS I have never seen before.
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>all these sea based bonuses for alberic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niQoEPGvtHk
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>>169630612
Don't coddle them too much or they might get ideas.
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>>169630612
>Empire "professionals"
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why the fuck do I need 34 gigs to update this fucking game and play bretonia?
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>>169630828
Back before Wood elfs, I have seen how beastmen completely destroy Estallia, Tilea and almost whole Bretonnia
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>>169631040
Because for some updates, steam acts retarded and needs space enough to reinstall the game
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Sorry, Lou, but Karl is and will remain my guy.
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>These Knights Errants helmets

My dick is through the roof
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What is the cheapest way to gift CA my shekels in return for beastiality and elven rape like a good goyim?
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>>169631032
Marienburgers cannot into fighting or farming, only trading, fishing, and sailing. I don't think they even have proper state troops anymore.
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>its a "lance formation bret cavalry punches through the entirety of a zombie unit with ease" charge
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>>169631389
I'm pretty sure steam
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>>169631305
Damn that's sexy.
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>>169630231

+10 armour for all Empire troops. Mapwide.

That's a 33% increase for the average state trooper, and an average of 7.5% reduction in non-AP damage across your entire army.
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>>169626081

>he tolerates non-Italians in Italy
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>>169631592
So there is no bundle or cheap ass russian websites? Oh well, guess I have to bend over for that curcumcised cock...
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>>169631732
You can pirate the dlcs if you have the legit game.
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>>169631667
Italians are pretty non-italian 2bh.
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Please help me guys. Did the reddit fix for the flc.
They show up fine in custom battles, but they dont show up in the grand campaign. Also i crash when i click on Vampire counts
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>>169631947
and that is safe to connect with steam?
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>>169626529
Rollin'
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>>169632015
CreamAPI is not safe u can legitimately get banned, unlikely but still possible
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>>169631278
that is the stupidest fucking bullshit. My SSD is only 64gig as it is! And it warhammer is already 17 gigs, to free up another 34 I've got to remove most of the shit on my fucking drive
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>It turns out the Kislevites were worsjipping Ulric in a bear-suit

Jesus christ. Is there any nation apart from the Empire actually worshiping a god that wasn't another god playing pretend?
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>Gobbo Archers
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>>169632242
you could uninstall and reinstall
or get a better SSD
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>>169631959

Verify game files.
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>>169632203
Alright. Thanks for the help fella(s). Guess there's no way to help it, gotta pay up.
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How the fuck do I beat Mousillon early on as Bordeleaux?
All my peasant trash just rout as soon as they engage them in melee and my archers do jack shit.
The knights are the only ones doing anything.
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So i destroyed french undead, but the game totally locks up if i try to resettle the land. I have to ALT F4 to get out. wat do?
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>>169632267
Norsca :^)
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>>169632451
hammer and memeville
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>>169632267
We don't even know what happened to Sigmar. It's just assumed that he became a god.
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>>169632487

Wait for a hotfix because CA clearly fucked up.
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>>169632267
MYRMIDIA GUIDES US
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>>169632267
Lots of them, up north.
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>>169626529

Rolling for tomorrow, gimme the french.
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>>169632558
mother fucking cunts. i also noticed that the tech for attacking the norse that gives you snow immunity, still rapes your anus
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>>169632267
Chaos Gods are real!
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>>169632740
you get chaos attrition too
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>>169632740
It doesn't protect you from chaos attrition
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Fuck Mousillon and fuck dead people
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>>169632267
Elves. Also Lizardmen.
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>>169632518

He did become a God. The fact of the matter is, whenever somebody does something Sigmar-ish, and calls his name, golden light emanates from them and they get super-strength and endurance.

That's a compelling proof.
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Whoops
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>>169632941
Same goes for the Lady, or any of the other gods that are "playing pretend."
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>>169632491
>>169632657
>>169632846

>Norsca
>a nation

Still want them to be overhauled to be more interesting. Sick to fucking death of dealing with their horse marauder bullshit every game.

They aren't difficult, just really annoying.
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>>169632451
Also what the fuck, I besiege Mousillon, they come out, I kill their entire garrison, and next turn when I want to attack it their garrison is back to full while I lost 75% of my army? What is this absolute bullshit CA?
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>>169632242

I had to move warhammer to my hdd, patch it there, then move it back to the ssd.

Check out steammover, it's a retarded solution, but it works.
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whats the difference between a heroic victory and a decisive victory?
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You guys that can't get Bretonnia to run right are signed up for Total War Access right?
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>>169633105

Yeah, but no-one's pretending to be Sigmar.

There was very definite benefit from Lileath pretending to give a shit about the Brets. She got a meatshield for Athel Loren.
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Marienburg just destroyed the empire, wat to do
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>>169633228
Heroic victory is better than decisive
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>>169633263
>Yeah, but no-one's pretending to be Sigmar.

If we take the End Times as canon, sure. But before that, anything could have taken the name of Sigmar and siphoned off all that sweet belief power from the Empire.
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>>169632941
>>169633105
>>169633263

>mfw Sigmar is just a manifestation of Khorne's aspect of Martial Honor and he doesn't care whether anyone knows it's him or not
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what difficulty does yall play on?
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>>169633408
yes, but how?
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>Be a bretonnian
>throw away all my land and titles to spend years chasing a shitty cup
>finally get it and get to drink elvish goddess piss
>still inferior to some Empire noble who spent a quarter of that time taming a stupid bird-lion
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>>169633528
Very hard/very hard
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>>169631612
You're telling me m8
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will isabella get into my campaign tomorrow if I start a game as vlad?
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>>169633528
Hard
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>>169633536

A Decisive Victory is a Victory in which you have defeated the enemy decisively.

A Heroic Victory is a Victory in which you kicked the shit out of your enemy so hard your name will go down in history books for how hard you kicked the shit out of them in that one particular battle.
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Is that "All Tabletop Lords" mod any good?
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>>169633573

>be a man with magic powers in the empire
>join an order
>make mad dosh easy from people hiring you
>fuck bitches
>literally no requirements other than saying heil sigmar every so often

Not Germany > Not France
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Poor little white boy
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>Destroyed the orcs in Grung Zint at turn 2 and got Blessing of the Lady from razing them (?)
>Took Gorssel a few turns later
>Marienburg sued for peace without ever setting foot outside their jewbor, I accept.
>Skaeling sues for peace as well? I accept.
>Sail my army to Mousillon, declare war and assault it
>A glorious "Pyrrhic Victory"

Now I can choose my opponent freely.
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>>169633528
>>169633663
>playing on anything less than VH/VH

might as well go back to playing memewatch
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>>169633678
The only difference between a Decisive Victory and a Heroic Victory is the balance of power bar. Heroic Victories can only be won when you're massively outnumbered or outclassed.
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>>169633573
How many griffons do you think there are?
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>>169633536

>Decisive Victory
>You win hard

>Heroic Victory
>You win hard when the odds were against you

You can get a decisive victory from smacking a hundred men down with a thousand. You get a Heroic victory for smacking a thousand down with a hundred.
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>>169626036
Only thing I think is hard is to know when an enemy is near your cities. And thats probly only because I've only played about 7h of the game.
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>>169633970

Demigryphs. 1 to 1, a Demigryph Knight is superior to a Grail Knight.
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>>169633902
>not playing VH/N
>actually wanting retarded leadership buffs/debuffs in your battles.
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>no unique trait for beating the red duke in battle

>>169634146
only w/ halberds
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Hey fagbuster, are you working on AOR mods for other factions?
It's not like I like your empire mod or anything, b-baka
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>>>>169634175

>only with commonly available weapon

gee boss
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>>169634281
TWENTY
GOOD
MEN
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>>169634281
what movie?
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>>169634281
It kinda feels like the ones on the left are the norscans and the ones the right is any faction's attrition depleted army.
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High Elves with White lIon LL when.
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>>169633647
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I'M BEGINNING TO THINK ATTACKING GREENSKIN SETTLEMENT OR MARIENBURG EARLY IS A BAD IDEA
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Is Volkmar any good? His campaign bonuses seem so one trick pony. Just spam Flagellants lmao.
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>>169634565
After Dawi Zharr master race
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>>169634775
It seems to me the trick for all three bret starts are to abuse the greenskin invasions to grind up your lords while getting confederation tech
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I need Araby to crusade against 10 minutes ago
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>>169634883
FOR HASHUT.
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>>169634867

That's exactly what he does.

But you know what? When your Flagellants have 50+ damage, plus a charge bonus more commonly associated with heavy cavalry, you stop caring.

I felt more like an unstoppable horde of Chaos playing as Volkmar and his legions off naked rapists than I did playing as actual Chaos.
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>>169634883

Would've been a lot more credable without waifu shit.
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I FOLLOWED THAT FUCKING 'GET BRETONNIA EARLY' GUIDE AND NOW MY FUCKING GAME IS PERMANENTLY DELETED FROM MY ACCOUNT. THANKS A FUCKING LOT. STEAM CUSTOMER SERVICE SAID IT WILL TAKE UP TO 48 HOURS TO PROCESS MY REQUEST TO HAVE IT REACTIVATED. fuck you
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>Grail guardians are fine
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>>169634883
Umm.... what is that horsecock doing between those two fair maidens?
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>>169635130
rickety rekt
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>tfw you're getting tech against attrition in desert and snow

What a wonderful feeling, that was a fucking good idea from CA, the crusading is going swimmingly.
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>>169635232
Well it's not going to suck itself m8
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>>169635130
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>>169635137
>highest tier anti infantry cavalry is strong against shit tier infantry blobs

Gee, no shit.
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>>169635076

Ok, good to know it seems fun in campaign. Maybe I'll shovel out das Geld for the DLC when they start going on sale.
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>>169635130
You have chosen.........poorly
Seriously how
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>>169635130
I TOLD HIM TO RETURN HIS WARHAMMER AND HE DID IT

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>169635382

Seriously, a whole army of unbreakable scumbags who become stronger when they're losing is absolutely bullshit when combined with the Lore of Life.

You can beat the Vampire Counts in matches of attrition.
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>>169635130
I know its false flagging(becose nobody can fuked up so hard)
But still funny
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>>169634867
Volkmar all decked out is a fucking beast. Trampling everything on his pimping altar with massive buff abilities and bound spells not requesting any wind of magic.
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ALBERIC WHAT THE FUCK

I SAVED YOU FROM MOUSILLON AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME

IF I TAKE NEGATIVE CHIVALRY FROM THIS I SWEAR TO THE LADY
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>>169635130
I absolutely refuse to believe someone can possibly be this stupid.
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Hell yeah! Marienburg is mine!
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>>169625767
I haven't played since November so I guess now that Bretonnia and Wood Elves have both been released it's time to play Chaos Warriors for the tenth time
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>My favourite factions in the game are Chaos and beastmen
>hate horde gameplay
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>>169636042

But Chaos Warriors are not fun Anon.
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>>169631667
Reminder that Rome invented multiculturalism and ruled the world
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>>169626529
>Dawi have 4 lords and 2 factions
>Vampire Cunts have 5 lords with 2 factions
>Greenskinz have 4 lords with 3 factions
>Bretonnia gets 3 Lords across 3 factions

>Empire has 3 lords but only 1 faction

Final DLC is for The Empire isn't it?
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DEVIL FISH.
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>>169632451
>>169633174
What makes you think they would make Mousillon easy to beat early game? They are literally the only undead province at the start surrounded by Bretonnia on all sides. Gotta make them strong or it'd pointless to have them around.
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>>169636208

Knife ears were the last pay for DLC, Old Friend is the lost FLC. Next is the expansion, Empire is confirmed for never ever having a second faction.
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Opinions on Bret so far?
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>>169636380
Yet another leap in quality. Every new piece of content makes me more hopeful for the future of the game.
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>>169636380
Better than some paid DLC
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>>169636380
fucking shit
all im doing is standing garrisoned in my capital while making alliances with everyone around me because no one is hostile
took out some greenskins to the southeast and that was it
literal "end turn simulator"
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>>169636380
Absolutely chivalric
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>>169636380
They smell like shit.
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>>169635130
The guide on reddit? Are you serious? I was about to try the same thing. I'll just wait until tomorrow, thanks.
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>>169636380
Pretty hyped, having a blast so far. Its really nice having stronger neighbors to tree nazi to keep that bitch in check.
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>Grizzled veteran who burnt down half of athel loren and defeated Grimgor head on dies heroically while crippling three chaos stacks
>Everyone in the army loved him so much none of them fled
Post music to honour the lives sacrificed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NH8mxmypo
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>>169636380
Big hopes for next faction going to be good too, and hopes for Empire and Chaos re done
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Thanks for fighting me at Gorssel Emil, now Marienburg is defenceless.
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>>169636380

Fun! My first attempt at sieging Marienburg was disastrous, but my 2nd attempt was really good, and I claimed it.

I had my peasant core with 6 siege towers come in and do a straight forward attack. I recruited a bunch of men-at-arms and they were able to defeat the shitty spearmen up top, so later on I was able to come down the ramparts early and flank the force I was fighting down on the ground.

My artillery chipped away at their ranged in the center, and earlier on destroyeda wall in the far right where I used my knights to flank. Pegasus Knights were used to sweep away any ranged infantry.
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>>169636380
The best faction in the game,

>Powerful and diverse unit roster
>Unique campaign mechanics that actually have thought into them
>Detailed perk system
>Multiple choices on how to beat the game (two unique crusades)
>Green knight mechanic
>Huge building chain, with various ways to effect economy and supporting chains.

Honestly its kinda sad how lame everyone else is compared to them, but hopefully it just means good things for the future.
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>>169635137
>406 kills

Damn nigga.
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So I get penalties if I declare war on Bretonnian factions as Bretonnia? One thing I've enjoyed doing so far up till now has been taking everyone by force of arms rather than using diplomacy to get others to join. Seems like you can't really do that though with Bretonnia.
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>>169636147
That's like your opinion, man
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>>169636670
Worked for me
He is not serious
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>>169636857
zat is dishonourableu my brazher! Also it's a good system since there's not really much of a reason for most good factions to fight. In the case of the Welves it makes sense if only because treemen and elves don't like each other.
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>>169635130
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>>169636602
Confederate and/or go crusading.
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>turn 40 or so
>mousillon got baited by a small army and left their keep
>lightning strike attack by my Louen captures their city and the Red Duke himself is caught out in the countryside
>My second army races to catch him, barely wary from the fighting and eventually they meet
>after his forces have been crushed the Red Duke is the last standing
>with 10hp
>after catching him, Chilroy Beastscourge decides to deliver the final blow
>with all the men at his back he runs down the hill, for a good minute or so at full speed
>his armor clanks and shines a glimmers beautifully as his rapid advance kicks up the very ground beneath his feet
>as he closes in, sensing his impending duel, he knows that all he needs is that one final touch, and he and he alone will be held as one of the most chivalrous and legendary lords
>by his blade alone the Red Duke would have been killed and Mousillon saved from the vampiric threat
>by his heroic acts he would be granted a blessing by the lady herself, elevated among the highest ranks of men within the kingdom

>then this happens

holy fuck my sides smart thinking CA
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>>169635071
>fan book

Why not post Kislev while you're at it?
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>>169626529
Fuck it
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This is a thing
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>>169637410
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>>169637410
Kek that was pretty good. The webm is like a silly warhammer side-story.
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>>169636380
One of the best faction so far imo.

>Really feel like Bretonnia
>A fresh faction with a new kind of gameplay
>Fucking awesome unit models (especially knight errants and reliquae)
>Louencoeur and the Fay are amazing LLs, and Generic of Bordeleaux could be pretty cool if they can make him more unique
>The updated rooster is lore-friendly and really helps the Bretonnia

Better than paid DLCs (Chaos and Beastmen) and most likely better than knife-eared fucking shits.
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Ramirez the Green Knight
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Can someone make a redo of the sweaty man with the towel dabbing his forehead in brettonian knight fashion with some text like "By the Lady" on the side? Thanks here's a corgi husky mix.
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>>169637589
It's a thing which can happen even when you hold no settlements by the ocean
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https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/27/total-war-warhammers-campaign-map-is-an-unreadable-irritant/

CA is fucking finished.
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>>169636747
>empire needs to be redone

Empire just needs a second start, Chaos needs it's fucking mechanics to actually work
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How is it that brets have never figured out that they worship an elf?
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>>169637589
Black Ark spotted, fire the hype
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>Bretonnia is great
>but now most of the older factions feel like half-assed shit
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>be hungry
>eat dinner
>just makes my stomach growl louder

Fuck you stomach, I'm not a fucking ogre.
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>>169637880
>RPS
kek i do hope you people don't read this garbage
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>>169628841
>cuckposting
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>>169637410
Kek, what the fuck just happened?
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>>169638027
No refunds

At least you'll feel like you got your money's worth from the second game
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>>169637932

Because they're literally brainwashed.

>totally ok with some of their kids just vanishing into thin air after the Enchantress visits them
>peasants totally ok with a 90% tax rate
>live in a practical Arcadia compared to the rest of the human world, but completely waste it because they refuse to embrace any technology more advanced than a shovel
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>>169638040
Speaking of which, what do you want to see about the best fucking faction in Warhammer, lads? Mercenary mechanic? Food management coming back?
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>>169637539
The Chaos Dwarf fanbook is pretty decent, mostly because it's an expansion to an existing army list (Legion of Azgorh) based on a faction with a well-established lore and playstyle.

The other fan books suffer from being too cluttered with redundant units and unimaginative knockoffs of historical units. The chaos dorf one is 60% Legion of Azgorh, 20% 4th ed Chorf stuff and 20% OC that actually fits the army.

>Units get to carry around petrified sorcerers which provide buffs.
>Sorcerer-Prophets get to ride palanquins and Altars of Hashut drawn by slaves.
>Sorcerers-in-training as a spellcasting support unit.
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>>169637880
>Losing track of your armies is about the most basic thing which could go wrong in a game about setting up battles, and yet in TW: Warhammer it happens irritatingly often.


More like never.
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>>169638198

A way for them to be relevant without being completely fucked over by anti-large units.
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>>169638051
red duke overcasted a spell and it backfired, causing enough damage to kill him
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>>169638027
>youre just never satisfied are you?
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>>169638346
Are they not on tabletop?
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>>169637880
That guy's either a fuckwit, or just going for clickbait. How anyone can be so fucking stupid to "lose" track of enemy armies when every army has a gigantic flag (larger than terrain features, so they can't get "hidden by mountains" like he claims) on their back. As for the supposed confusion over what terrain is and isn't impassible, you get a gigantic yellow circle when you click on an army. If you're not a chucklefuck, you will notice that this goes across the terrain feature that looks like a ford, and thus work out that that place is a ford.

Given it's RPS, I'm inclined to think clickbait.
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Whats the basic path as Brettonia? Started as Louencour, and turn 2 I wiped out that Orc faction that was south of Marienburg, and now I'm just sitting on my ass waiting for some decrees to be signed so I can confederate and get money.
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That was fun.
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>>169638027
The Empire will forever be the love of my life.
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oh my

>+10% speed/charge to all cav units
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>>169638727
>That on top of the buffs he can get.

jesus, sanic fast heavy cavalry
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Fuck. Should I do it? I already took Marienburg and Gorrsel is all they have.
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>>169638646
Take Marienburg for that sweet cash or make nice with your other neighbors. Get into a fight with the secessionists if you get bored
Wood Elves just declared war on my ally Bordeleaux in my campaign so you may want to be prepared for that
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>>169638049
>nodd gugboasting

:-DDDDDDDD
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>>169638646
Go after Marienburg. You want that port, and you want to get there before the Empire does.

If you're lucky, they may go fuck about attacking Artois or something, allowing you to grab Marienburg itself while it's relatively undefended.
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I am enjoying Bretonnia. Are you REJOICING yet?
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>>169636380
Based
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>>169638887
>>169638646
Also sooner is better than later since no garrison and they don't build up.

Two siege weapons in your army means their defenses are trash. Just stay in on portion of the wall. Put peasants in front, Use trebs to knock down the important towers and then move up and either knock holes in the wall or open the gate (move up for better accuracy, don't get within their small arms or artillery fire however.)

And then hit their defending infantry through the breach. And then archers. And then glorious charge to their center. Should be doable. don't even need to delay. hit them before they can recruit to much or maybe if they get distracted with another army. And before the garrison becomes too big.
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does brits come out tonight at 12 am
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>>169638509
I have one of the old army books for Ogre Kingdoms at home but I don't know because I'm not at home
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>>169638346
>lead belchers fire like grape shot

that's all they'll need against most.
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>>169637589
Will they add ships in this game
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Abhorash>any Knight of Bretonnia
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>>169638303
>legion of azgorh
>AoShit

Like I said

>fanbook
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>>169626154
rollin
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>>169639340
>not in the game

wew
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>>169639179

>brits

Bretonnia are basically all France.

Even in the old Arturian Myth, the Lady of the Lake was in France, and basically guilt tripped Arthur in accepting Lancelot, even through he was a terrible Frenchman because she gave him Excalibur.
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>>169638198
Anyway here's my idea:

>One of the type of lord you can recruit is a Maneater (warlord or something)
>In his skills, you may choose one faction in the world. When a specific faction is chosen, it locks out all the other ones
>If, for example you chose Dwarfs, the Maneater would have increased armor and leadership (they're known to take the fighting styles and the gear of the people they met) and give a slight diplomatic bonus with dwarfs factions
>On top of that, he could be hired by dwarfs to fight battles, basically the client giving his army a target like you would set in military alliance
>When the mission's done, you get a reward, be it gold, experience, diplomatic bonus, etc...

What do you think?
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>>169639340
Abhorash and Gilles are bros. So anyone who Gilles agrees with can probably stay.

That's only really grail knights though. All other knights have to prove their shit.
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>>169639340

Except Abhorash pledged fealty to a knight of Bretonnia.
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>>169636602
Reddot spotted

Which reminds me, reddit will probably be as retarded as this guy and whine to CA to get them to make it not unchivalrous to conquer other bretonnians, thus ruining the faction like they did with wood elves.
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>>169639416
Yeah I know I mis typed it, how are people playing them and will they be coming tonight?
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>>169639340
>He helped fund the construction of la Maisontaal Abbey in Bretonnia in order to repay a debt to Gilles le Breton (The Green Knight).
>It is implied that during the destruction of the world during the End Times Abhorash was fighting alongside the returned Gilles in Bretonnia.

That's actually pretty based
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>>169639379
>Legion of Azgorh
>AoS

Hey, that's my meme you thieving git!
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>take Marienburg by turn 14
>Emil just walks in and takes Couronne
Do you just sign a peace treaty with him or...?
>>
>Karl Franz
>Emperor of the Largest nation of Men in the Old World
>Incredible statesman, winning even the reluctant aid of the Wood Elves
>0 unique abilities
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Oi, sorry to crash the 'tonia bandwagon, I have a question though:
is the gore dlc worth the 2 eurodosh? Is it just the visual effects?
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>>169639590
Who's Emil?
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>>169639543
What did they do with elves anyway, they made each other fight?
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>>169639416
>the old arthurian myth
>taking the french fanfiction of king arthur seriously

>>169639428
I think it's a good idea and hope that because Chorfs and Ogres will be the last factions released (besides the Daemons, who will be the very last released) that they'll be extra polished

Sucks for the chaos warriors I guess
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>>169639650
Its just visual effects. You'll rarely even see them unless you regularly get up close and personal with the camera
>>169639665
The lord of Marienburg's starting army
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>>169639650
Yes. It's bullshit you have to pay for it, but it's worth it. It adds some special effects besides blood, too. Makes battles look a lot better.
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>>169639590
That's pretty akward. You should continue the fight.

>>169639665
Leader of Marienburg
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>Artois vassalizes marienburg

Well
Now this was unexpected
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>>169639650
It's just visual effects m8

I'm not paying for it and its the only DLC I don't have. Honestly, I think it looks like shit.
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So are there more new units then what they showed us? what the unit list?
Are they more fun then the empire? the empire sucks you have to deal with everything right in the middle.
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>>169639590
You don't lose Couronne in the first place, anon.
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>>169639702
Elves were supposed to be "glass cannons" meaning you have to not be retarded and let your units get into slogs with the enemy because elves are about hitting hard and running away- skirmishing

Redditors, being subhuman retards, complained because they sucked too hard at the welf playstyle

So CA buffed them and for 3 months the Tree Reich rampaged across the map
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>>169639428
Sounds fine by me.
Really, Ogre Kingdoms should be the faction that has the incentive to go and fight as many different nations as possible, so that's a pretty good way to go about it.
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How does war coordination work?
Will your allies immediately send an army towards the targeted destination or will they send one AFTER you attacked?
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>>169639861
Obviously. I mean, do you even attack Marienburg at the start of the campaign?
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What the fuck Leonardo how are you rank 1???
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>>169639582
edgy manlets won't be in game anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Still

>fanbook+AoS

Tippity top kek
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>>169640027
>passive

Well there's your problem
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>>169640040
t. Skreek
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>>169639954
you allies gather up a force and send it after the target. Its usually one army and sometimes they're successful sometimes they aren't sometimes they react immediately sometimes they wait to gather forces but then attacks. Sometimes they get slaughtered by another threat before they even get there.
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>>169639954

They'll basically attack the place whenever they feel strong enough to do so.

As the Empire, I generally let the Dorfs murder the south of Norsca while I take the top half.
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>>169640027
Undoubtedly the worst ninja turtle
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>>169639552
>It is implied that during the destruction of the world during the End Times Abhorash was fighting alongside the returned Gilles in Bretonnia
Vlad literally says that they went for a last stand together.
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>be at peace, for that is all I ever want

Damn it Karl, there's Vampires in your front yard and a Chaos invasion to beat, you can't be sounding all sad like this.

I don't know much about the lore outside of the wiki, some army books and this game, is Karl Franz a genuinely good guy? Or is he the same like other humans in this setting: fight amongst each other constantly, but unite temporarily when there is some world ending threat to face.
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>>169639965
Yes, but I waited until I had a bigger garrison and a small second army holding the fort before doing so.
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>>169640127
>>169640143
fuck
sat here for 2 turns after defeating the red duke's full army, recovering and watching as another two undead armies recovered in the south. I keep waiting for my allies to show up but now the 2 armies are at full strength and I might have to back my ass up
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>>169626154
Rolll
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Is there a /twg/ approved power rankings of the LL's? If not, can we make one.
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>>169640307
He's a stand-up, straight-backed dude.
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Is anyone else getting an unusually high amount of shitty events?

In the past ten turns I've gotten -25 Leadership for all cavalry, -8 control for all provinces, -10% replenishment rates AND -35 growth in all provinces.
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>>169640226
I just pulled that from the guy's wiki. I know fuck all about Warhammer lore.
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>>169634565
The White Lion guy is a legendary hero, not a lord.
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>>169640418
>elder god tier
Belegar Ironhammer

>literal garbage tier
Skarsnik
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>>169640418

Even if there was it would have been thrown into complete disarray by the patch.

It's not even technically, officially out yet, people aren't at all sure how good shit is comparatively right now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKSfdo9DT8

EXEC_PHANTASMAGORIA/. might actually be the best song in the series.

I'm not a huge fan of Lyner, but he did his job pretty well.

Also, does no-one else find it sort of funny that the canonical love interests of literally every game was the thousand+ year old reyvateils who typically joined in the second half of the game, as opposed to the younger ones who were with the protag from the start?
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>>169639428
>Quest Battle with allies where you switch sides mid battle
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>50 turns in
>my main army gets wiped out by a WE doomstack led by Tree Goebbels

Aaaaaaaaand there goes my save
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>>169640582
Haha yeah man, hilarious
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>>169640418
There's no tier list, but the strongest LL in the game by far is Mannfred von Carstein.
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>>169639884

Except that they were also utter shit before the buff
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>>169640585
>it's Shogun 2 all over again
Shogun 2 should have introduced a 'change allegiance midbattle" mechanics
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>>169640582

Woah, wrong thread.

>>169640418

In campaign, or in multiplayer?

Because Archaon is still probably the strongest Legendary Lord, he just feels underwhelming because the Chaos Campaign is frustrating in a way other campaigns aren't.
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>>169640549
nigger what?
Skarsnik is one of the strongest lords in the game
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>>169634193
yeah, I am.
Bretonnia soon once I finish downloading the update.
Dwarfs are ready but I need lore info on which karaks have best specialty troops like rangers or thunderers.
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>>169640027
Ranks fluctuate a lot at the start. All the other strong factions probably have wounded armies at the momemt. That's why it is risky to colonize with your only big army. Your strength ranking will go down and that will increase the chances of "hostile" AI attacking you.
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>North decree gives immunity to snow
>but not to chaos

Its fucking nothing
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>>169640772

Shogun 1 and Medieval 1 actually allowed you to do this. I never used it, but it was there.
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>>169640418
I'd like to. I get some weird autistic pleasure from tier lists, even though I'm not a min-maxer at all and I usually don't give a shit if my character is the strongest.

Can we all agree Mannfred and Kholek are in the highest tier?
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>>169640856
I've never even seen snow attrition affect anyone other than beastmen wandering through there
Are half of the factions just naturally immune to it or something?
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>>169640856
>expects crusading in the far north to be a cakewalk

The lady is disappointed in you, for you lack strength of will
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Hey, anyone got that image macro of Archeon close-up, inverted? So the Eye of Sheridan looks like a goofy smile?
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>>169640996

There's snow attrition in the mountains above the Dwarf starting location, but Dwarfs themselves are immune to it
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>>169640772
I really wish this was a mechanic in Shogun 2. Use an agent to convince an enemy army or unit to change allegiance mid battle with an activation button.

It happened several times in the Sengoku period.
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>>169641027
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>>169639884

Troop strength have no impact on an army success chance on the campaign.

Its all about numbers and armour, hence why Vampires tend to go big but have nothing but skeletons
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>>169641027
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>>169636684
RIP in peace Sir Shrek.

F
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>use first green knight charge when lyonesse unexpectedly attacks me
>build up a bunch of chivalry after
>have enough to declare war on parravon and take their city w/ the help of the green knight the turn before he disappears

DEVILISH
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Goddamn, trying to keep a Bretonnian infantry line from crumbling in 10 seconds without having Grail Reliquae is fucking suffering. Playing on VH is not making it any easier too.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>169641208
>>169641326
Thank you Anons!
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>>169641617
She wants the L.
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I almost had his last lord two, like 200 health.
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what are the chances of getting new empire of man factions?

for free
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Is there any mod that makes lords/army leaders stay dead either forever or for an extended period of time (sort of like wc3 had it)?

Killing a leader only to have him at my doorstep again 5 turns later is fucking annoying
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>>169626529
>dorfs blue
>not gold
>bretonnia piss yellow
>not blue
The fuck?
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>>169641931
85%
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>>169641931
After the Old Friend, there isn't going to be any more dlc until the expansion iirc.
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>>169626529
roll
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>>169642034
We still have one left
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>>169639884
So elves don't kill everything now? empire was getting fucked
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>>169642127
just kidding
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>>169641998
>>169642034
I just want hummie sub factions since the brets get 3. I can understand if Estalia and Tilea are paid but hopefully middenheim and the others get release free..or just cheap
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> All these screenshots of Mousillon getting btfo

Guys this skeleton genocide is getting out of hand. Skeletons are people too.
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>>169642320
>Skeletons are people too.
I wonder who might be behind this post.
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Just how powerful is the Green Knight? Seems like a lot of hullabaloo around one temporary hero unit.
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>>169642176
The one left is the Old Friend. That's it.
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>>169642320
Stop Skeleton cruelty

END THE RIDE
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>>169642430
he's shit

>>169642432
the old friend is the vampire bitch
confirmed by Her Grace herself
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Ha ha ha ha...

No.

Playing in VH/VH for the first time. Interesting.
Also, WE are not confederating, but they still declare war at random just because fuck you and fuck everything that is not covered in moss
>>169641931
I'd pay for that.
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>>169642307
Middenland and Averland would be good because of their established lords, although I don't see how they intend to get access to wizards without Altdorf.
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>>169626529
roll
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>>169642563

Isabella is the free lord after Bretonnia on there. The Old Friend is still unknown. Stop trying to 'troll' people.
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>>169642430

He's Ethereal and has decent HP and defensive stats, so he can tie up most units for ages and rack up a good kill count.

Hit him with a unit or two of magic weapon units, and watch him melt.
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>>169642320
>the jackbooted peasant hordes of Bourdeleaux cross the border into the fair lands of Mousillon
#WeAreAllSkeletonsNow
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So are they coming out sometime tonight or tomorrow?
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Is there anything more satisfying than watching your knights of the realm in lance formation absolutely bowl over a bunch of zombies?
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>>169642993
Who? Brets are out already.
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>>169642376
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>>169642726
Check Grace's twitter, you'll see I'm right
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>best TW faction of all time is a free faction for the best TW game of all time
Still not forgiving you for Chaos though
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>>169643358
link her twitter
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Anyone know if AI unit composition mods still work? Playing against 12 pistoleers is out of the question.
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>>169643660
Just fill them with arrows.
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>>169633573
Grail knights are seriously underpowered, considering that they're canonically capable of taking a canonball to the stomach and still fight on.

I lost half a unit against goddamn Empire Spearmen. They didn't even have shields.
>>
So do we think DLC wave 2 is going to start immediately, or are we going to have to wait for the expansion first then get the next DLC wave?
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>>169643780
Expansion first
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>>169643562
huh? they added a new faction to rome?
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>>169643849
>best race soon
HNNNNNNG
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>>169643038
Watching them bowl over everything.
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>>169634775
My experience as main faction on Normal:
Greenskin rebels can't take your capital, so you can easily recruit up for one round, then run to JewBurg before they get their economy going, starve them out, and then run over to rape the orks to death before returning to smash the rebellion at home.
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>>169640543

>the white lion guy

What guy are you refering to? I'm not familar with table top I just liked them greatly in warhammer online.
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>>169643358
Grace confirmed on Reddit that the Old Friend isn't Isabella
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>>169643780
let them work on a good amount of content , fuck dlc. it sometimes works and you get good content but sometimes it doesn't and it can be overpriced.
the Minotaur and chaos feel unfinished. more so chaos the worst faction in the game right now. All they are are a end game. I hope they add something better then times.
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is this new?
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Are they hard or are they more easy then the empire?
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>>169641983
anyone?
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>>169644657
yes
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>get code for bretonnians 5 hours ago
>still haven't played the game
>too busy shitposting and reading jap comics
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>>169643970

>soon

I'm kinda new to the total war scene but surely it'll not be till near xmas or even next year before we see the next game?
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>>169638843

If you were any other faction, yeah

But treaties as Brettonia are SERIOUS BUSINESS

If you don't conquer them now you aren't going to be able to for about twenty turns without massive penalties
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>>169626529
roll roll roll llor
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>>169645018
That's soon I guess
Soon-ish
Either way we oughta start getting some info in the coming months
>>
fug
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>>169645150

I hope so, I'm a sucker for early info, I'm highly interested in lizardmen, helves and delves, hope they're still on the table for the first expansion but that tweet did say the leak was outdated..
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>One of the knights shoved me into the mud! I am not worthy...

Made me laugh
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>>169634420

>movie

You can't be serious
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Am I doing it wrong when I expand south and conquer other Breton kingdoms?should I be exlandiing east? I dont know how vassals or confederations work nobody ever wants to be mine
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>>169645150
Christmasis 10 months off and is soon.... That's how fast life goes in your 20's. I need to get away from my computer
>>
I'm a bit annoyed by the DLC shitty policy. Other than the obvious jewesh move, I'm scared that by the time all the dlc have been out there will be another chapter of the game, so after spending 100% for all the DLCs the new and improved warhams comes out, and here again DLCs and DLCs.

I sincerely don't even mind that much spending 20$ every one or two months, but sure as hell I don't want to waste them
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>>169626529
Lolran
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>>169645454
If the campaign map is going to get combined it's not going to be wasted
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>>169627301
>All knights dead
>Trebuchet nearly dead
>Damsel heavily injured
>Only peasants survived

Disgusting
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>>169645454
>>169645573
This, they said they intend for the expansions to build up on one another.
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After Warhammer's autoresolvefest, it's good to play some good old Attila and enjoy the meatgrinder on legendary.
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>>169645018
There has been a separate team working on the expansion since launch, I doubt its coming at the end of the year
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>>169645637
A couple of knights survived
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WHAT THE DICKHUMPING FUCK DO YOU DO AS BRETTONIA

>kill orcs immediately
>give cuntlicking happy merchants time to build their doomstack

>immediately besiege happy merchants
>lose anyway because cavalry are trash in sieges and autoresolve already super-favours the merchants even on turn 1
>on top of that, weird event fucks your public order for not instagibbing the orcs
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Kekking heartily

Based Franz
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Tryna confederate with the other bretonnian groups and its still on red even though the relations are super green

bug or is there something i need to do? Im pretty much stronger than them
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>>169645454
Its an EXPANSION not a chapter

God damn how underage are people seriously, no one seems to remember how expansions work
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>>169645389
they are pretty muscular for a bunch of underfed peasants
>>
So is Empire easier now that welfs aren't as insane?
>>
How the fuck do you even make more knights of the blazing sun? I can't find them anywhere on the building list.
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>>169645729
If you're quick enough you can siege marienburg long enough to cause attrition, take it once things are in your favor, and return home before the greenskin rebels build too far out of control
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>>169645729
You're attacking the wrong Orcs, just sit in your base and smack the rebel Orcs for free money and chivalry until the event is over while researching the confederation techs then steamroll out of Bretonia.
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>>169643970
I wonder, if lizards will be able to build cities.

Restore old cities? Build portal spawners? How else their recruitment gonna work. They should add some kind of veterancy system for them.
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>>169642320
Makes me wish they'd made mousillon a faction too so I can take the helm and show these filthy elf worshippers what for
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>>169645868
>>169645647
>>169645573
Calm down, I didn't know about the expansion, I've seen some folks here talking about something and I tought It was a totally new game. Is the expansion going to cost more money tho?

Anyway my argument is more generic, after they have released ALL the dlcs, expansion and shit, considering how popular the game was, how much time until a sequel? And when it's out again, 60$ for the base game, 20 every 2 months for a faction etc.
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>>169636202

Reminder that tolerance and multiculturalism are not the same thing.
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>>169645729
Here's how I did it:
Recruit for one turn, then immediately attack Happy Merchants, siege until their garrison is at 1/10th health, then holocaust them all by bashing in the gate and punching a hole in the wall somewhere away from it.
Peasants go in the gate, knights storm through the wall and flank the defenders.

You'll lose nobody, so you can just rush home, kill the rebellion there after it's attacked your capital, then run to the ork settlement on the hill.
>>
I'M TRYING BROS
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>>169646051
You have to build a special building in Talabacland.

It's dumb.
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>>169626529
wooo
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>>169645791
I think it may have to do with chivalry.
Relations were at max green for me, then I gathered some more chivalry through greenskin genocide, suddenly I could confederate.
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Someone post a good Alberic pic
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>>169646418

Ah. Got it, thanks anon
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>>169646549
You can only recruit them locally in Talab as well btw, gotta do global for everywhere else.
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>>169645414
>implying i watch tv
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>>169645389
are those dead birds hanging from their belts?
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>have to use raiding stance to avoid mountain attrition
>get pic related

FUCK
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>>169640806
>Doing mods other modders already did but better

Why?
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>>169641782
Let be known to all that King Louen Leoncours dick is shaped weird.
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>>169646645

Noted, Appreciate the heads up.
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>>169646671

>tv

Are you looking to become a target for a Crusade, sir?
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How do you counter marauder horsemen spam with Vampire Counts? They have no range units, and fell bats are the only thing fast enough to catch up with them. I guess I could just have half of my stacks be fell bats, but I feel like there has to be a better way.
>>
If I use the southern realms expansion mods by cataph but dont play as any of the southern realms, does the ai still use the new units? and do they use them effectively?
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>this is what passes as a """"""""damsel"""""""" damsel in bretonnia
>>
Who the fuck do I fight first as Leon?

Marienburg has a full stack and isn't moving from his cities.
Ditto with the nearby Orcs
Neighbour to the south isn't allowing me military access so I can't fight the vamps.
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>>169646260
Fucking hell anon go educate yourself before you post about this shit

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War:_WARHAMMER_Future_Content_Blog
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>>169646862
Doggos, Bats, Blood Knights.
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>>169646862

I usually just have Manny hit them with Wind of Death and then they all run away screaming for Khorne

Failing that, use doggies
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>>169646418
I actually like that. It gives incentive to take over those areas so you can recruit the special knight chapters.

Here's hoping they add more
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So I tried some grand skirmish test battle with 4v4 ai ofc

>my side
brets, emprah,dorfs, wutelgis

>enemy
4x vc , they all had necromancers

I got pretty much fuckd up, I was the one standing and holding my ground with greatswords, archlector and druids. Bretonnias almost immidiately got anally fisted with white flags, welves did some nice job by sniping them but they couldnt outmatch neverending waves of zombies. Dorfs finally hold their ground nicely but once brets and welves died they got overrun from all sides.

Whats the moral? Never trust an french and elf.
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>>169646926
They're picked for their innate magical talent, not for their looks.
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>>169646990

>using Blood Knights on marauder scum

They should refuse to follow your orders on principle and then attack you for even suggesting they waste their time on such unworthy foes
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>>169647045
depends on what you brought because I guarantee you that some units like Dryads and Treekin will never die to zombies.
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>>169646940
Even if the shitty autoresolve tells you the contrary if you attack the Greenskins you destroy them, they have very shit units and it's not a siege battle.

Still I think It would be better to concentrate on Hamburger, annihilating the orcs doesn't give you that much of an advantage escept for the public order
>>
>>169644332
>he uses reddit
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>>169646260
1. There wont be a sequel
2. Total cost of the game is going to be about $360 assuming you buy everything day 1
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>>169646846
is game of thrones not TV?
>>
>>169645443
>10 months
>fast

I also feel "old" but in perspective to feel old in your 20s is like when you were 10 and were thinking "wow I've lived a WHOOOOOOOLE decade" and believed yourself to be accomplished.
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>have over 200 rep with multiple Bret factions
>Low chance of Confederating

Why?
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>>169647356
got to research the techs to confed.
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>>169647217
If you buy everything day 1/preorder then it should only be 316 dollars because 10% off and the Chaos DLC being free with preorder.
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>>169647346
I remember being a kid in the summer and those 3 months out of school felt like forever.

I'd kill to enjoy 3 months like that again.
>>
NO EVIL WILL TAINT THE LANDS BEQUEATHED UNTO ME.
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>>169647401
He said that he has low chances, without the skills I think you have no chances at all. Anyway as someone said it could be you Chivalry, don't know exactly
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>>169647257

>watching your entertainment on a television in the Year of Our Lady 2017

There is this thing called a 'computer' machine

Perchance one day you shall become acquainted with it, knave
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world playig this game right now.
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>>169647401
They're stubborn even with the tech
Alberic sits on his little beach and laughs at you while the Red Duke fucks up his neighbors
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>>169647561
i dont watch tv shows, pleb.
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>Make peace with wissenland
>Same turn they do this
Do they just want to be genocided?
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>>169647356
>>169647401
>tfw too smart to play the game correctly
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>>169647582
>that blob on the left
For good reason, Attila was fun when you couldn't spend every moment going
>Why am I not playing TWW instead?

I really hope the next historical game is on par or better than TWW.
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>>169647561
>tfw too peasant for a computer
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>biding my time, waiting for Mousillon to expose himself
>negative trait 'Procrastinator'
>-20 Chivalry, -10 Campaign Movement Range, +5 enemy action success chance

Will this ever go away? What the fuck.
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>>169647678
I dunno. Nothing grips me in Warhams. I gave it a good shot as well, I have almost 70 hours in it.
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How does everyone feel about Vlad and Izzy telling Manny to go suck on a Nurgling and starting their own faction with blackjack and hookers?
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So with the new map editing tools for the campaign is there going to be a way to bundle maps and release them as a pack?

Downloading individual maps is going to wreck my mod number.
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>>169647797
>nothing grips me
>70 hours
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>peasant limit stays at 10 regardless of number of settlements owned
who thought this was a good idea?
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>>169647757

It goes away after a few turns actively pursuing an enemy army

Gobbos work great for that

>>169647896

Yeah that's getting patched super hard
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>>169647896
Your game is bugged mate, it increases by 2 per settlement taken
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>>169647582
Don't worry, historybro, we're in this together.

Recently started a SPQR campaign for the new EB2 version.
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>>169647832
Vlad-daddy, we love you!
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>>169647851
People kept saying I didn't give it a chance, so I booted it up again.
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>>169628841
DELET THIS
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GOD DAMNIT I THOUGHT THEY FIXED THIS SHIT
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>>169647582
I play Attila from time to time
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>>169647832

But then who gets Konrad?
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>>169648216
Vlad of course, Konrad would never bow to baldy.
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>>169626036
>modern video game reviewers
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>>169648216
Vlad

Konrad is a daddy's boy, Manfred is the bratty rebel that needs dad's firm hand of beating to get knocked on his ass and back into place
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>>169648503
choke me daddy <3
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So the bret faction has all the tabletop models? Why did they make this free faction more complete then fucking minotars and was anything missing from elves?
chaos we all know was just some gimmick for the map.
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>>169648601
wat
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>just started a campaign
>wood elves haven't confederated everything already
>they haven't left their forest at fucking all
FINALLY, NO MORE TREE HITLER
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>>169648210
Do WRE legendary
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>>169648216

Nagash
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>>169648128
>not playing the dorf campaign just to hear them shout "KAZUKHAN KAZUKHIT-HA!" each time you win
>not playing the empire so you can enjoy having to force march from one end of reikland to the other every five turns to defend from yet another threat
>not playing chaos and using your hellcannnons to bombard the enemy with hellfire
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>>169648637
DURTHU
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G O B L I N S
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Is it hard for brett in the campaign? Who do you fight in the beginning?or most of the game?
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Someone show Prophetess of Lady.
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>>169648627
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>>169648675
Titus couldn't keep it together at the thought of that.
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MEANWHILE IN MIDDENHEIM
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>>169629340
it's a
>modder adds his own face even though all we wanted was the fucking reskinned weapon
episode
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>>169648986
There's a version without the face, just using the vanilla helmet
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>>169648602
brettonia had a tiny tabletop roster
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Why do I get that stupid greenskin event as Fay Enchantress when there are no greenskins around me at all?

It's not like I can just march through bretonnia to get the ones near Louen because everyone refuses to grant me military access despite me being literally the avatar of their god.
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>>169648820
by the lady
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>>169647832

Pretty sure Vlad has no need for hookers, anon

He has his waifu back
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>>169648820
Who
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>>169646787
>>169648202
>raider
>likes greenskins

Oim startin' to like dis humie'! 'Ez a proppa git!
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Understanders of strategy, am I really that screwed?
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>>169649224
>>169649137
But she has a penis that's not very damsel-like...
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>Trying to take Marienburg turn 2 with basic Bretonnian infantry
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>>169649297
That depends entirely on how feminine the penis is.
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>>169649262

Nah, you should be fine

The auto-resolve just goes full-retard sometimes
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>>169649191
>implying the hookers are for vlad
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>>169625767
>tfw you will never be the Fay Enchantress's foot servant, gently worshipping them all day.

Is...Is it meant to hurt this much?
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>>169649262
Just make sure you ram your lances deep into their archer's rectums as fast as possible and it'll go swimmingly.

Auto-resolve vastly overvalues ranged units most of the time.
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Uhh, this doesn't look like Athel Loren at all
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I'm having a harder time getting stable with the Fey Enchantress campaign than I am with any of the campaigns listed as "Hard" to start.

What the hell are you supposed to do early game? You're pitted against the Wood Elves immediately, but attacking their homeland is suicide because every one of their buildings is a capitol with 5 million reinforcements and you're stuck with ass peasant units until you expand and build more income.
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>>169649705
That is definitely Athel Loren
Dont belief elf lies, its actually a shithole
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Forgive me my lady, for I have sinned

I hope I can get rid of "likes greenskins" as well
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>>169649528
Kill yourself
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>>169649764
Defend and stomp rebels and grow fat on Orc loot. The Wood Elves has been fixed so they are not so aggressive and eventually they will ask for peace. Then you can go ahead and confederate or stomp shit once the rebel event has ended.
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>"He may not have loved me the most; that honour, I am certain, went to Isabella, but he certainly loved me the longest"

>Mannfred von Carstein

What did Manny mean by this?
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>Severely misjudge how powerful elf horse archers and durthu are
>Stack gets wiped out because they couldn't retreat across the river
>All their casualties are recovered before their next turn
This genocide is going to be harder than anticipated
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>>169626036
Honestly I agree, the mountain Dwarf starting area is especially a fucking mess.

Also what the fuck is with the ass‐long loading times?
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>>169649974
I tried playing passive to stabilize my order, but ended up getting the procrastinator trait which gave me negatives in a ton of important stats.

On another run I waged war with the beastmen since they always raid me on like turn 2. They ended up going for a swim in my harbor. Tried sailing out to fight them, but they can land anywhere while I'm stuck landing in my port, so it ended up being an infinite chase that made me want to scream.
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>>169650028
What the fuck...
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>>169647979
I just confederated 2 bretonnian factions and it stayed at 10
:(
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Has anyone noticed that animations render at like 15fps in fuck huge battles? Or was it just my PC?
my game FPS was at around 30 but animations looked choppy as fuck
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>>169650434
No, don't sit inside your city. Stay outside and chase the beastmen out or stomp rebels. A small force in your port is sufficient to prevent a raid and you should be able to catch them with your mainforce if they stray anywhere close to your castle.
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is there a way to get units in a squad or whatever to move in your own custom set formation
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>>169626529
rooooooooolllllllllaaaaaaannnnnnnn
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>>169650213
I find wood elves to be the hardest AI race to play against
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>>169650880

Yes

Set them up however you please, then select all and hold ALT while moving them and they'll stay in formation
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Use the silver mirror reflect the smell of the rotting mousilon corpses
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>you can only recruit two more units per settlement taken or you get hugely buttfucked

>tfw you want to expand but the limit don't allow you to besiege anything.

I started to just wander around the world, killing shit then sailing back.

This definitely don't feel bretonnia, more like how wood elves should play
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are the new maps in yet?
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>>169651729
Play the game and find out
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Did they add new sounds to the game or am I imagining?
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>>169650028
>>169650453
Its implies that Mannfred was made vampire long before Isabella, he is possibly even from Lahmia as Vlad himself.
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>>169652157

Sound design got tweaked as part of the update, yes
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>>169651545
You have to tech up to knights as fast as possible
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>>169647832

I just imagine Vlad and Izzy having fancy parties with all the other cool vampires

And little Manny's face is pressed up against the bottom of the window looking in from the cold
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>>169636380
fucking amazing
the update in general has been good
>improved Gelt
>Wood elves no longer Nazi Germany
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Does the Green Knight last a limited amount of turns or is it until he dies?
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>>169652647

15 turns, broseph

Make good use of him
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jesus this was one of the hardest fights of my life
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>>169652818

>capturing undead

For what purpose?
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>>169626529
rollin rollin rollin
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>>169652902
>Not wanting to keep the Red Duke in a cage
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>play dwarfs
>conquer half the continent without any resistance
>play Empire
>don't follow some strict guide on how to take the south in my first few turns and now I'm having barbed cocks shoved into me from every direction and having orifices made to accommodate every one
S-Summon the elector counts
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>Can't have ranged units with more than five leadership because lolchivalry
>Can't have more than three melee units in each army because lolchivalry
>Can't have guns at all because lolchivalry
>Can't raid to avoid attrition because lolchivalry
>Can't sack shitholes for money because lolchivalry
>Can't defend your lands for too long because lolchivalry
>Can't break treaties because lolchivalry

Fuck this shit, sickass flying cavalry just aren't worth the hassle. I'm gonna go back to being a smelly Empire barbarian. At least there I'm allowed to wear shoes indoors without my entire nation plummetting into anarchy because I wasn't polite enough.
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>>169653221
laughable you ever thought you were pure of heart enough for based bretonnia
>>
What self-respecting adult would actually play as the Dwarves?
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>>169653354
Beats me, every trve vnderstander I ever met was a vampire.
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>>169650880

ctrl G after you set the formation
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>>169653354

>questioning the way of the Dawi

That's going in the book
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>>169653354
Fight me irl.
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>>169650880
If you ctrl g with them selected they'll be locked in formation so you position them however you want. Or you can select the units and hold alt and drag them with left click.
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>confederate w/ louen
>check his traits
>
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> Playing as based Fay enchanteresse
> Ally myself with Bordeleaux
> Bordeleaux is attacked by the treacherous and unchivalrious of Bastonne
> Jump to the defense of my faithfull ally
> - 200 to chivalry for "declaring" war on my fellow bretonnians

How is it unchivalrious to help your ally against a greedy bastard ? I could have understand if my ally was the one initiating the war but he is defending.
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>>169653720

>Likes greenskins
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>>169653720

LOL
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>>169653720
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>>169653354
THORGRIN

GET THE BOOK
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>>169653720
>Yoo want me ta do wot wiv my choppa?
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>>169653061
> Keeping captive vampire anywhere near you

It's like you want to die slowly and painfully tortured by one of the most cruel creature in the world when he escape.
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>>169653951

>Getting your liege-lord's name wrong

That's getting your name written thrice in the book for good measure.
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Are custom campaign maps out yet or do we have to wait until tomorrow?
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>>169644248
Korhil. He was the only elf in the entire tabletop game with a native strength higher than 3.
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>>169653083
The Dwarf campaign will become significantly more difficult with the addition of the Skaven

I question it even being playable once Chorfs get added to the mix with Ogres being a wildcard army
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Did they do some crazy buff for ungors?

I had lone ungors getting trampled by my grail knights that didn't break before they hit 11 remaining men, and that's even on normal
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>>169653720
>likes greenskins
>perverted
I'm not gonna lie, this is literally me after looking at pornographic illustrations by artist "inCase"
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>>169653354
Sure sounds like someone with needlessly long legs and bad penmanship.
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>>169653782
I told you guys dumb shit like this would happen but you didn't listen
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Who /twg/?
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>>169654363
Greenskins!
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>>169654075
>implying every dwarf does not hold their own pocket book that they can submit to their local leader, who adds it to the community book of grudges which gets merged into the main book
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>Alberic and Lyonsse literally impossible to confederate at this point
>400+ chivalry and 200 rep with both

nice game
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>>169654198

> Dickgirls

Such disgusting corruption has no hold on me.
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>>169653720
>confederate with anyone
>all their lords have been ruined with god awful skill picks
>you inherit three stacks full of shit like gobbo archers
>the stacks are full meme and not at all balanced armies
>settlements all have the absolute most useless buildings built to the highest level possible
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>>169654363
Chaos.
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so what is the recommended battle difficulty? Very hard seems like a fucking chore when enemy AI doesn't even use different tactics and are just given ridiculous buffs.
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>>169653354
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>>169654363
how many troops involved in these battles?
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>>169654092
The second
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>>169654363
Chaos is THE grand enemy. We shall met them with honor and righteousness. Let those cowardly stunted dwarflings fight the greenskin tide.
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>>169654116

Well correct me if I'm wrong but other than green knight I don't think there's a single character from table top that's a hero unit. They're all just RNG as far as I know so hopefully he'll be a lord.
>>
>pick chaos
>have to march all the way over to the farthest part of the chaos wastes

fug
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>>169654363

Skaven better be added as an option later on in the expansion
>>
>Decide to try empire again
>pick volkmar
>make an army comprised of flagallents, xbowmen and mortars with a few reiksgaurd
>Not lost a fight yet, constantly against undead but flags refuse to break so fear and terror is worthless

Man this guy is great.
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>>169653354
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>>169655048
People in this general have no idea how to use flagellants and write them off as shit.

Turns out they're incredibly strong.
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>>169654984
forgot pic

>>169655000
>grand campaign objective is to march your army to a swamp in estalia

lame
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>>169655131

I think it's just the tier system where the game unfortunately has this "use this to replace this" syndrome, However the only real upgrade is fucking greatswords and they take forever to get so may as well use flags right?
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>>169655131
They are only good at holding the enemy, they kill really slowly. You should only have one or two in key positions.

You can literally mass any unit and win though.
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>>169654984
>>169655171
You can teleport, anon.
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>>169655297
Yeah no. Every time I get the flank off with Flags they annihilate shit. And far faster than Spearmen/swordsmen do.
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>>169654875
There were lots of character heros, from the DE book:
>Kouran, Captain of Black Guard
>Tulllaris, Captain of Executioners
>Shadowblade, Master Assasin
>Mallus Darkblade i think
All with special rules
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>>169655404
Spearmen and swordsmen are only for holding the enemy too, with the benefit of not melting to missile fire (as quickly as flaggellents). Missile troops and cavalry are the units that do all the killing for empire.
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>>169654185
>every man is dead
>valiant defeat
>not crushing defeat

What the fuck?
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>>169655453

Oh i think you mis understood anon I mean that're hero units IN TWW atm.
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>>169654116
So does that mean he was a Swole Elf?
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>>169655715
He's a muscle elf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjJb6DMlJ1Y
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>>169655769

Does he come with the white lion pet? I thought that was a big deal with them, that they always had a big ass white lion pet.
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>>169655661
siege battle so no chance of escape + outnumbered +killed a shit ton of the other guys
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Disgusting.
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>Wurrzag's magic attacks are given to arrer boyz
Neat
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>>169655992
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>>169654363

>Two typos in that textbox alone

I bet the peasants did this.
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>>169647896
>I have an allergy to latex
>literally the second it comes to contact with my face, skin around my eyes starts to swole and eyes tear up like motherfucker

That fucking picture. Just looking at it kinda triggered a mild reaction. Fuck.
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>>169655891
In tabletop, the white lions are either worn or used to pull chariots. Using them as a WoW-style pet was an invention of the 2008 mmorpg Age of Reckoning.
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>>169656137

Ah that's unfortunate, still they're pretty bad ass.
>>
>want to go help protect the empire from various threats after consolidating brettonia
>enemy armies constantly do whatever it takes to be just out of range of my forces

Worst thing about warhammer t b h, its nearly impossible to get offensive field battles late-game
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>>169654116
Doesn't every Elf champion have strength 4??
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>>169656137
Storm of Magic had rules to use them as a monster unit
>>
What's the best Total War and why is it Napoleon?
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>>169656396
>Play campaign
>First three battles you play
>Over the course of three hours you fight maybe one or two more battles
>Everything is so lopsided in one direction or the other than you can just automate it
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>likes greenskins
>orcsbane

uh
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>>169656137
>AoR is dead

Fug, I remember I was an Ironbreaker, a Bright Wizard and a Witch Hunter

Good shit.
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>>169656619
He likes fighting them, I guess?
>>
I'm not sure I'm doing Bretonnia right

The peasants die way too quickly for me to swing around the back with my knights and everything just turns into a chaotic blob
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>>169656619
>his special weapon is a trident
>his model doesn't have a trident

REEEEE PATCH THIS CA YOU FUCKS
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>>169656539
The Napoleonic wars had the most stylish motherfuckers.
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>>169656719

My best mate and I have a memory of playing a warrior priest (me) and a sword master in pvp and there was one of the maps that could be spawn camped pretty hard.

We sat outside of it with him as my def target and myself as his guard target and just killed their entire team because they came one on one every time. It happend all night too, even in the earlier levels on gates of ekrund.

I loved White lion and black guard more than any other class but that day could not be topped for me.
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>>169656398
Well I'm full of shit. You're right.
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>>169655398
Not to the Errantry War, just did it.
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>>169656619
the fuck is wrong with his helmet.
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>tfw Vlad leaves you and you're just left with literally the worst lord in the game and some guy riding around in a zombie train
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>>169657070
wut about the capturable fortresses?

Also you reminded me that I never seriously played any of the destruction guys past the first few levels.

Why the fuck did EA close this down? I hope that shit company goes bankrupt already.

>meanwhile TORtanic is still sinking
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>>169657445
Vlad will be back to put a boot up Manfred's ass for sitting on his daddy's throne
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>>169657482
returnofreckoning
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>>169656719

I still miss my black orc.
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When will we get another game with avatar campaign?

Attila wouldve been perfect for it. You're a warlord, ect ect
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>>169656798
Make sure you get a smithy for shields.
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>>169657482

What about the fortresses? I don't remember doing much of the open world stuff, too much "sitting around doing fuck all till something happens"
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>Can only move about three inches per turn on the campaign map unless you're in the march stance that fucks you in the ass.

Why is this allowed?
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>>169657638
>skaven were made playable back in 2010

nani? But why no tomb keks?
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>>169657874

I don't think the skaven are fully playable, it's just some crap event thing in one area.
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>>169657732
The fortresses were the best part though? I remember them constantly being scenes of ebin battles back in 2008.
>>
Has anyone ever successfully used guerilla deployment?

It seems pointless. Especially when battle are over within 5 minutes.
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>>169657947
It's amazing how EA completely fucked this game up, cannibalized it to redistribute its resources to TOR and then proceeded to fuck THAT game up

It's like they hate success, but that would imply that they're competent enough to succeed in the first place
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>>169657112

Yes you can, you probably didn't have your army selected or were in the wrong stance.
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>its a "belegars crusades against the empire from his foster home in the vaults have allowed the crooked moon to survive for far longer than they should have" campaign

I wish grey mountain watch gave immunity to mt. attrition so I could go skullfuck those gobbos without having to spend a billion turns getting there
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>>169652559
So how bad did the elves get nerfed? why did they go crazy so much?
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>Age of Reckoning is dead
>MMOs nowadays are either korean grindan F2P shit or shit you have to treat like a job like EVE
>Warhammer Fantasy will never get the good RPG it deserved, it'll never have its Baldur's Gate
>Age of Shitmar is here

At least Warhammer Fantasy went out with a bang. Total War: Warhammer is the most fun I've had in gaming in a long time.
>>
So you cant make green knights as far as the roster goes?
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>>169656396

Late game turns into such a slog because every fucking battle is a siege. At least the minor settlements shouldn't be allowed to have walls. Just have the max level defence upgrade increase the garrison further than it does now (so the autoresolve result is the same) and take away the walls. I want to be able to use my big expensive cavalry for more than just mopping up afterwards.
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>>169656861
Literally a mod for that posted itt
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>>169658458
Anon pls, no feels.
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>>169658508

Minor settlements don't have walls.
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GROOOODGE
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>>169658508
Break down the walls somewhere and send cav to take the center
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>>169658676

They do when upgraded. Which, in the late game, they will be. Every single one.
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>>169658458
yeah but now CA will have a unlimited budget to do anything. finally make a civ like total war or a gundam total
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>>169658458
>went out with bang
>two more expansions with boatload of dlc
it's not over yet
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>>169654467
Yeah but the shortstack cumgoblins
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>>169658960
L-LEWD
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>>169656396
Threadly Reminder that successful Ambush stance (70% on forest tiles usually) makes enemy AI completely forget your army exists, and they'll usually stay in range of your next main move or just waltz right over you
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Post big victories!
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>>169659160
How unchivalrous
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>>169658695
How do these guys resist missiles again?
>>
>>169658816
Not him but I thought he meant everything else.
but this one game put fantasy table top back on the map and made it more famous I bet.

but yeah I can't wait for the "weird" races that are the ones I actually care about, so far we got the basic races. when rats and lizardmen and fucking mummies appear this map is gonna be nuts. It's gonna be the most complex total war ever if they add EVERYTHING which I bet they will because its making ca and gamesjewshop and sega money. so much money they hand out free shit.
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>>169659348
sheer force of anger along
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>>169659348
Arrows get stuck in the mohawk
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I was really hoping tha CA to model the reliquae after this. Yes there 2 people in it but having it just look like one unit hero looks dumb as fuck.
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>patch drops
>play empire
>no sign of tree hitler anywhere
>bretonnia owns the entirety of bretonnias land

Shit anons I like what I'm seeing. (I main wood elves but god damn their aggresion needed sorted)
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>>169658960
I WANT TO FUCK A GOBLIN.
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>ywn be a grail knight
>ywn ejaculate between the lady's massive human tits
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>Dropping foot of gork on handgunners in a siege
100 kills on the spot
It's wonderful
>>
Ok, I can never play a defensive siege in Warham. AI just siege my castles until the turns run out. WTF?
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REIKSGUARD! KNIGHTS!
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How's that Bretonnia campaign going, /twg/?

Here's mine
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>>169626529
wow look at all that dlc to play factions lmao
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>>169659650
Pushing it a little hard buddy, are you trying to convince even yourself that your "Lady" isn't a sneaky elven wench?
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I finally confederated Bordelaux and united Bretonnia, and it only took the literal End Times to do it, lol.
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>>169659749
I think the AI knows it will shit the bed if it goes against those long range machine gun towers in Warhammer sieges. Worst sieges in any Total War, imo.
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>>169626529

what if I roll 100?
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>>169660762
well there is no doubt about that; CA jobbed the shit out of siege battles
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>>169659749
They'll only start the siege in earnest when they have N siege towers, where {2 < N < infinity}
Get the mod which makes siege equipment build faster
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What factors into a heroic victory?

There seems to be a lot of variables but I dont know which ones are actually important
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>>169660796
that's dubs
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>>169659348
They hold their axes above them forming a metal wall that blocks arrows
>sounds like bullshit
>is actually historically accurate method of blocking ranged fire
>pikemen were basically immune to arrows yet for some reason TW ignores this
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>>169660926
Inflicting massive casualties on an enemy many times your number while taking very few of your own.
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That peasant quote.
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>>169626529

KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR
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>>169660762
they're not even hard.
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>>169656798
I charge with my cav first, then retreat, then send in the infantry

Then send in the cav again but on the sides

Bret infantry is absolutely fucking garbage, but their cav can hold their own and pull out without risk
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>>169661134
Better than 40k
>MY FACE IS MY SHIELD
>METAL BOXES, LOOK, METAAALL BOOOXXEESSS
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>>169661134
>they don't even have shields
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>>169661119
So spamming magic, arrows and artillery while the green knight tanks, got it
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>>169661446
thats the joke
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I love Bretonnia.
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>>169661395

I am a huge fan that volkmar says the faith quote.
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>>169660189
I would play if it didn't boil down to having to deal with chaos.
I wish they just get rid of it, its a really shitty end game that I hate.
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>>169660762
>the one time the ai attacks a walled settlement
>towers are bugged and do not fire at all
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Grail guardians are pretty good
almost 700 kills
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>>169659749
I had Grimgor go full retard and attack me without any siege equipment just because he had three lords with 20 stacks.
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>>169658458
>We will never get an RPG where you go from rat catcher with small but vicious dog companion to witch hunter.
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>>169662109
If we ever got a gritty witch hunter RPG my dick might just break off.
>>
Playing a coop campaign for w/ friend

Most riveting thing to happen in 40 turns was i killed the 1 base vampire lords

Fucking riveting dlc. Hopefully the choas element is more interesting
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>>169652818
Try just 1000 Bretonnians versus 4200 Undead.

Thats what I just spent the last 1/2 hour doing.
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>>169659163
>778 kills on non RoR Reiksguard

how
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>>169662334
Yeah Tell me about it.
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>Trait: Devoted of the Goddess
>Caster: Skill selections have made this character a highly effective spellcaster
On my Damsel, not sure what this adds
I'd post a screenshot but my PC is apparently fucking retarded
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>>169626154
Let's roll!
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>>169659163
>that Reiksguard kill count
The fuck were they doing
>>
>>169662208
TW is one of the few series thats actually worse with a friend

The AI cant even beat one player, let alone two working together
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>>169652902
It's even better as Greenskin
>eat captives
>>
>Marienburg now most hated faction in the game
>Mousillon now the whipping boy of the west
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>>169662439
It's just like "sneaky" or "dark wizard" for greenskins and chaos
No bonus, just an aesthetic title
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>>169662714
>Marienburg, wealthiest and most hated city
>Marienburg
>burg
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>>169662714
>>169662823

>Dwarves now getting their shit pushed in by Greenskins
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>>169662496
>working together with your friend
>not fucking him over in game then fucking his mouth IRL
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>>169662346
are you blind or just stupid? VC stack their armies with a ton of zombies. Getting a ton of kills vs a VC army means fuck all.
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>Red Duke goes to siege a city with an army guarding it
>Observe the situation before fighting
>Decide to decline attack and fight it out when I'm done with everything else
>Army loses the blessing of the lady
FUCK
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What is an opener for Bretonnia? I just hit Marienberg on turn 2 and got my shit pushed in as Leoncoeur
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>>169663820
Turn 1 move to the edge of your territory and recruit more peasants. Turn 2 fight greenskins. Turn 3 go back and get more peasants, than seige out Not Amsterdam with a full stack, they won't attack you back.
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>line of Battle Pilgrims with Reliquae behind
>Red Duke's skellies crumble before the Pilgrims rout

Pilgrims confirmed more stubborn and fanatic than undead

shame I lost anyway
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Combining Grail Knights and Grail Guardians together is probably the strongest tactic Bretonnia has to offer.

The obvious tactic with the Guardians is to whip them around and hit the enemy in the back, but usually when this happens they will send cavalry to intercept me, so I have the Knights ride with them and fight off an approaching cavalry.

The Guardians make short work of any infantry that wants to intercept.
>>
So my game preloaded Bretonnia and now Im stuck at the boot screen. Any help, bros?
>>
>>169648216

Konrad had a Necromantic Stroke I don't know if it's possible to recover from that.

It'd be funny as fuck if they brought him back as a Unique Varghulf though.
>>
>540 kills with Louen
>Cant cap the results screen
God damnit
Vampire numbers are fun
>>
>>169665101
I just furiously mash print screen and I can usually use that to get an image to make in paint or whatever.
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>>169656396
>>169658508

protip: this is actually what happened in like 1500-1700.

There was a period almost 100 years in European military history where the Battle of Breitenfeld was the ONLY really significant battle between two field armies. Everything else was a siege because it was practically impossible to force an enemy field force to give battle if it didn't want to.

This is pretty much what Renaissance: Total War would look like.
>>
>>169664153
I lost my 10:1 odds battle of an all cav force versus skeleton spearmen but god damn if they didn't look good doing it. It was 700 vs 7000 btw. on legendary difficulty. was fucking stupid. (lost that campaign due to a stupid move.
>>
Green Knight is insanely OP. I miscalculated my strength and fought a siege battle where I was heavily outnumbered. Like 1000ish units to 3000ish. I made it to the gate and sent him in first with some shock cavalry backup. Buffed everyone with my enchantress and damsel and due to the gate bottleneck I was able to kill the entire enemy army. Most of my troops were down to a few units by the end of it, but the Green Knight still had around 80% HP.
>>
>>169646357
>>169645729
Theres another way of doing it I found, cuts it really close though.

Turn 1 go to border and recruit.

Turn 2 wipe the orc camp. Recruit a lord at home and draft some more plebs.

Turn 3 Siege Marienburg, recruit another round of units from your other lord.

Turn 4 move other lord down, assault marienburg. The fight is rough but you have enough units to claim the walls and then trebuchet the inside defenders down.
>>
>playing as pathetic facial hair man
>instead of best enchanters
heh enjoy your slow replenishment rate,expensive ass knights and shit farming output
>>
I'm new to the game and I think I have the general hang of it, except for using cavalry.

Once I flank and get a good charge off with knights, am I supposed to keep them in a sustained fight or just keep breaking off with them so they can re-initiate charges?
>>
>>169666062
if the enemy is wavering(flag is flashing white) then keep,else cycle them
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>>169666062
Depends on the situation. It's generally safe to keep them in vs units they can overpower
>>
So I didn't sign up to total war access but its letting me play as Brettonia? Why? Have they just opened it up to everyone?
>>
>>169666062
Depends on the type, but cavalry is always better charging in so cycle them out and in. But you need to pin the enemy unit try to charge from multiple angles at once it'll do a massive moral shock and can cause a chain rout.
>>
>>169626529
Le roll
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>>169632451
>How the fuck do I beat Mousillon early on as Bordeleaux?

Keep your lords/paladins in the front lines with the peasants. Yes keep them on foot. Have a mixed line, with Shield + Sword/Polarm Peasants and back them up with a line of battle pilgrims who charge in once the melee starts.
Have archers in the back to focus down characters/fire at other threats.

Have a large contingent of Knights of the Realm + Peasant Yomen + Knights Errant flank around. Have a mounted Paladin leading them.
Hammer and anvil them to death once the enemy is engaged in combat with the peasants.

Watch as your knights in Lance formation throw whole units of skelebones into the air.

>Profit
>>
>Be Bordelaux
>get quest to remove vampires
>Vampires are 2 20 stacks of almost entirely skeleton spearmen who refuse to leave their castle

Spent almost 40 minutes trying to clear it with an army only to lose with 18 grave guard left after they finally chopped through the Green Knight

then I realized I had left my paladin deployed in a province and could've totally won it with the extra damage from him
>>
>>169626529
been looking for a new campaign, rollan
>>
>>169626529
How do you fags afford these dlc?
>>
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>>169667795
>he thinks people are paying for the dlc
>>
>>169667795
I bought it all with neetbux, got the game for 12 dollars so it was whatever
>>
>>169667795
Literally just skip out on a few lunches.
>>
>>169634659
wait wait wait. Where is this guy in the game?
>>
>>169626529
Rolling for some grudge bearin'
>>
>>169667795
I saved all my Good Boy points, which mommy lets me trade in for Steam gift cards as long as my room is clean and I stay quiet when she has company over. Pretty sweet deal, tbch.
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>>169668218
Nice. Happy hunting
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>>169626529
Roll
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>eliminate greenskins as clan angband
>realize i need them alive to complete leader quests that i never did

well i hope they werent useful anyways
>>
>>169667795
Buy ingredients from store and make your own food instead of eating take out
>>
>>169626529
kek be kind
>>
>>169667795
>buy game last may and get chaos warriors 4 free
>buy each dlc as it comes out
>not fucking 15 so 20 bucks isn't a huge fucking deal for me
>>
>>169668568
nevermind it looks like i can rape another orc tribe i nstead.

also what dwarf hero is best at assasinating
>>
new thread when?
>>
>>169669231
Make it yourself if you're so fucking concerned goddamn
>>
>>169668925
Thanes are your best bet
I dont think any dorf hero is particularly good at it though
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>>169661826
Goddamn how? Can any of you post videos of huge battles that result in heroic victories where you are outnumbered and playing either empire of Brettonia? I just can't win these huge battles when it's me against three other armies.
>>
>>169669546
You see the zombies? I don't think they can even roll high enough to do any damage to grail knights.
>>
>>169669383
>Announce Bretonnia will be released in February back in November
>completely fuck everything up

CA's incompetence is impressive
>>
>>169626529
Rorran
>>
So,which one?
>>
Is the game good?
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>she's literally the embodiment of the lady!
>people reject my fucking trade deals

Fuck you.
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>>169670512
Greenskins
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>>169670573
Which game? This is a general for a series.
>>
>>169670512
Kayos
>>
>>169670573
gg
>>
>>169667795
Not be a disgusting poorfag/child?
>>
>>169668259
> tbch
to be cuckly honest ?
>>
>>169653221
the whole point of the faction is that it forces you to play a different way. The problem is when you have 4 factions that let you basically play the same way.
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So... what must the suicide rate in Bret lands be?
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Alberic of Bordeleaux here, taking questions
>>
Which Bret leader does /twg/ recommend?
>>
>>169671310
Why wont you confederate you aquatic fuck
>>
>>169671310
Where's your trident

post feet
>>
>>169671407
>>169671407
>>169671407

Hurry up.
>>
>>169630358
Last Ring Bearer is dogshit.
>>
>>169671284
Probably not as high as one would think. Ignorance is absolute bliss anon.
>>
I need to piss
>>
>>169671310
where's the rest of your hat?
>>
>>169626529
Roll
>>
>>169667795
Don't buy them all at once, 10-20$ doesn't seem so bad when you only pay it once a in a few months.

Also drawing porn for dosh has helped
>>
>>169671284
Pretty low honestly. The Bret propaganda game is on point.

Plus it helps the only real threats are Green Skin or Beastmen Hordes and sometimes a Norscan raid.
>>
>>169667463
I used Lyonne, and Artois as fodder, tricked them into attacking 5 20 stacks at Mousillion and dying for me. Then cleaned up the remaining 3 stacks myself.
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>>169671310

Which is better, trade or chivalry?
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Legendary Knight Ramirez

it's the southern realm mod again isn't it
>>
>>169673394
I went trade first because in order to confederate you must be strong in your own right. That means military which is dependent on trade/economy. Besides chivalry tech only takes 6 turns per confed.
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