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:chipmunk: :chipmunk: :cow2: :chipmunk: :chipmunk: edition

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=855

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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>>169622980
>:chipmunk: :chipmunk: :cow2: :chipmunk: :chipmunk:

Don't bull L***co!!
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I want to impregnate a murmillo
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>>169622708
i was in some dailies
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What's the 5 hammer of bows/crossbows?
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>>169623204
pm swaazy
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>>169623473
I don't think there is one but archers have really easy leveling anyway.
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/Bullies/?
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>>169623473
https://tos.neet.tv/items?sockets=4&order=scktd&f=1
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>>169622980
>FP still in the op list
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So, there is this boss with a truckload of HP and hitting me for 4k each spell.

Klapeida, channel 1 on tenet church 1F if anyone care to help me with it
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>>169623473
Feint Barrage
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>>169624829
>No drop data
Is it a new dungeon cube drop?
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>>169625596
What goes there besides the grim reaper? Chapparation?
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>>169626413
Yeah, that second one
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>>169626242
not new
https://tos.neet.tv/items?name=imper&type=THBow&ulvlmin=75&ulvlmax=75&order=cdated&f=1
no idea if it drops
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>>169626492
Is it still there?
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>>169627187
Yes, there is no one here
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Dead game
Dead thread
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>>169628245
>playing tos
Retard!
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>>169623473

chappa crossbow

but you also want to have a bow for flying shit
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reminder sapper3 are the future
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I'm the only one hoping for warlock 3 to be complete trash?
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>>169630342
I hope it doesn't but the class concept doesn't work with the game design so it'll probably suck anyway.

>Let's make a class that functions by using the souls of dead enemies
>But let's make all the end game enemies have a billion HP so the mechanic is mostly pointless
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>>169630228
Get Fwee3 and watch how a single broom trap demolishes 800k hp mobs.
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what do I even spend points in sage other than portal 1 micro dimension 1 blink 1 missile hole 5? are more levels of blink worth it?
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>>169630601
Guys I have the best idea! Lets give you +7 dark attack by standing on the souls!
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>>169630907

>single broom
>not broom + flare shot
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>>169632160
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2e.11315185
other in whatever or keep them
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>>169632160
>>169632380

dimension is ok if you have quickcast on a dps character

it deals 4 hits with a huge base
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>>169630601

maybe they will give a spirit urn to the warlock, like the necro one so you can work with your skills easier

or they will just forget this mechanic and go full dot curses and maybe a super spirit summon
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>>169632651
long cd and overheat
dont think that is even worth using anywhere
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>>169632991
Maybe creatures will summon swarms of weaker little creatures.
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>>169633262
>and no overheat
ops
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today is the last day to claim chocolate rewards?
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>>169636450
No, this is the last week.
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What should I be doing at 250.
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Someone make some ToS gifs.
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>>169637305
or .webms
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Dying sucks. What are some classes that are truly hard to kill?
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>>169637247
Quests
or
StorageGrind

and
100% maps
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>>169637832
a good Cleric
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>>169637529
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>>169637832
Wiz cryo psycho Thaum 3 Runecaster Sage has 1 billion defense and is immune to missiles.

You don't do anything except not die but maybe you can annoy people who don't have miko in PvP once we get changes to allow casting in Giant mode.
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>>169637832
>Dying sucks.
Why? There are like 0 penalties. You don't have to warp to town, you don't lose exp/get negative exp, you don't drop anything can't have stored instead, or anything bad really.
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>>169637832
Anything, literally anything. Just stack defence and mdef and everything will hit you for 1.
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>>169637529
>need to do something like this to explain how you fire arrows with a whip and a guitar
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>>169638578
>guitar
LEWT
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>>169638578
Whip based class when? Games need more beastmaster classes.
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>>169639245
>wanting more erp related items in game
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>>169639245
>beastmaster
>not succubus
Where do you think you are?
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>>169638578

I always thought of some musical rhythmical magic

vulcan arrow is such a lovely skill
newbies thinks of it as a OP dps skill
noobs and pseudos thinks it's a bad skill
good pvplayers knows it's as a good and valuable complementary tool of the clown/gypsy skillset on small pvp parties
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>>169639786
Why not?
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Agility should allow the whole party to sprint if the allies are also Empowered tbqhwumf.
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>Do mission run
>Immediately when done, 3 players run to the far corner, set up a bakarine statue, deploy pavises under it, etc

Is there some new exploit I wasn't informed of?
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>>169643362
Maybe they were just flirting?
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>>169639786
2 player mounts when?
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>>169643829
Motherfucking camel pets
We need this.
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>>169644006
1 hump or 2 humps?
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>>169643829
There needs to be another type of companion that is similar to a homunculus. Some humanoid thing that does basic stuff but isn't actually useless in a fight.
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>>169644358
Why not just make homunculi better? Game could use a Kupole pet though. Although I'm not sure Kupoles can actually do anything either. Maybe some kind of fairy.
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>>169644567
I want to fuck a kupole
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>>169644806
me too, my man, me too
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Is it wrong that I like girls who look like boys?
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>>169645194
No, you can like her all you want while I smack her every night
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>>169645194
Not unless you like futa that look like boys.
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>Going through steam trying to find a game
>See this game and smile because of how I didn't even waste 2 days on it before deciding it was dead
I'm guessing it's simply used as a niche social hangout for mentally ill people?
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>>169646782
Yep. And for people who 'PvP for the sake of PvP' lol.
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>>169646782
>I didn't even ...2 days
fuck off casual
reeeeeeeeeeeee

and
>i know how bad game but i didnt even play it
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>>169646782
I like the combat and rolling characters
The grind is soothing
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>>169647235
>Not being a savvy enough gamer to identify when a game will succeed or not in a glimpse
Sounds like you're the casual here
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>>169647514
>>Not being a savvy enough gamer to identify when a game will succeed or not in a glimpse
Why do you have steam then? You should be savvy enough to know all modern games are shit and you can just pirate older ones. .
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>>169647514
>not playing shitty niche crapgames for thousands hours
No, you are.
Now go back to your CoD or whatever AAA Game is hip nowadays.
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>>169647514
>success
>indicator of good or bad
>cawadoody.jpg
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>>169646782
I actually play this game like my niece play some of hers barbie shit on her phone.

Grind to buy cute outfits and accessories
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>>169647883
That's just being silly. While modern games do often miss the mark they've gotten miles better at skill based games. If you enjoy slow paced stuff with generic storylines you'd love older games but I've had enough of that.
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>>169647938
For games to succeed they have to do something right even if it's just one thing. This game didn't do anything right.
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>>169648227
Old games are significantly harder on average than newer games don't know what you're smoking.
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Why do doomposters even care? Does it bother you that much that some people enjoy a game?
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>>169648227
>they've gotten miles better at skill based games. If you enjoy slow paced stuff with generic storylines you'd love older games but I've had enough of that.
You've got to 18+ to browse this site.
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>>169648739
What do you mean by harder exactly? Figuring out obscure and unexplained mechanics? Trying to piece together the logic of a game with little to no development direction? Difficulty in trying to get yourself to keep playing a clunky mess?

There are no older games that were the same quality as skill based games we have now like the mobas, csgo, battlerite, duelyst, and so on.
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>>169648998
Those games you've listed all derive their difficulty from the fact that you're playing against a human and not an AI. Game design itself is simpler and in a lot of games the AI has intentionally been dumbed down over the years; compare FFT's AI which typically makes the best move it has available to FFTA's AI that will shoot arrows at your unit with 100% chance to evade arrows all day.
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>there are people unironically falling for his bait and giving him the coveted (You)s
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Dade
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>>169648998
>Figuring out obscure and unexplained mechanics? Trying to piece together the logic of a game with little to no development direction? Difficulty in trying to get yourself to keep playing a clunky mess?
Yeah, those are the things I love about ToS alright.
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>11 mithril ore

K
I
M
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>>169653520
Remember when that shit was kind of rare?
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>>169654161
I member.
Spend hours farming them in tenet church.
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Let me finish doing my dungeon grinds before maint fucking game. Why the hell am I getting instance full with like 1k people on the server? how fucking broken is the system?
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>>169656784
Sucks to be you, i just did my last for today.
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>>169656784
we have a theory that IMC starts bringing down non-essential servers before the actual maintenance window
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whens the meatup
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>maintenance
What is this bullshit.... how am i supposed to get my third gilt helmet with a 4 hours maintenance?
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http://steamcharts.com/app/372000
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>>169658716

fap for 4 hours
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>>169659581
I want to cum inside an anon
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Feel when it's finally that time of the week when I can stop playing this game and play a real dress up game for a few hours. I hope there's some nice new silly hats on Mabinogi.
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>>169659684
You can cum inside my boypussy
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>>169659684
I want an anon to cum inside me!
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>>169658991
>Almost at a 19% drop
>Was 17% yesterday

Lets see if it can hit 30% by the end of the week
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>she still goes to the meet up even though her crush quit
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Ded meat up
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>>169632160
After missile hole and 1 in everything, I went with 5 micro dimension for piercing mdef and saved the rest to see what rank 9 has. You could make an argument for blink, but I rarely do things where the image is useful. They all suck, really.
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Annyeong
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Anyone kind enough to upload their English languageData folder?
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>>169662979
>>169663760
>>169661463
>still giving shits about that
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>>169663760
Got there last second, almost databased without my favorite TOSG!
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>>169663237

blink works like kino's teleport, it has some uses. not sure lv Lv 1 will cut

the thing is, lv 1 blink + the attributes are okay already for the bait

on this webm, physical link + teleport to dodge the door and speed up the mission, but you alone can tp in and awake the boss
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>>169664046
Now we know to remove cute from the OP list.
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>>169664470
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>>169664470
>hating cute
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>>169665238
She is probably angery because she was rejected from that guild because she is not cute.
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>>169661463
kys
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>>169658991
Why we play this?
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Regarding the steamchart numbers.

You guys must consider the Brazilians.
We had summer vacation in December/January + holidays so this explain the growth (silute was almost alive as the first months, lol). Today is the last Carnival day, at Wednesday everyone will be fully committed to their job/schools so I think we'll continue to bleed a little bit more until we reach a stable number for a month or two.
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>>169670678
The chart is descending at the same rate it always was. Last month rose because people got their resets and exp event, then those people left and the degrade continued as normal. The problrm is IMC still feels like they shouldn't advertise, which is somewhat true, but they still need to just fucking advertise already to counteract all the negative reviews.
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>>169670678
>We had summer vacation in December/January
Does all of Brazil get summer vacation or just the part below the equator?
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>>169661771
who are they?
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>>169672268
As if it would counteract negative reviews instead of provoking more of them. They don't really have anything to lose by waiting. How do you expect them to advertise without spending money on it, anyway?
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>>169672802
>They don't really have anything to lose by waiting.
Except players

>As if it would counteract negative reviews instead of provoking more of them.
It wouldn't because more people would come and try it out instead of the occasional person coming across it and seeing the reviews and not wanting to play.
Some people who played before might come back and try it again too. Most people left during the really early release when the game barely ran and the game is objectively better than it was then.
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>>169672503

anon, 95% of the country is below the equator. but yeah, the whole country gets summer vacation in january/december and winter's on june/july. the north has a different time zone (1/2 hours) but they follow our calendar.
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Place your bets on whether or not they fix the "discounted" hairstyle prices.
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>>169669584

Does people still playing this shit? is just plain sad
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>>169634830
Hoplite fanart is amazing.
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Servers are up
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>>169639983
>there are people in this thread that know and appreciate the subtleties of Clown/Gipsy PvP

Mah nigger.
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Is spear throw a multi-hit?
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>>169674835
Nice hitbox noob class kys
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>>169676042

nigga, bursting a 40k hp paladin with a fiber locked'd lex'd fire arrow VA right after tarot's chariot card breaks their shield is the reason video games were made
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So I decided to try out jToS. Any premium VPN suggestions? (Yes, I don't want to deal with unstable free shit.)
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>>169674940
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand they didn't.
Pretty much the safest bet in the world.
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>>169678123
Fuck off lolipan
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>>169678123

>tree of marijuana

such a cancerous place, but this gif made me kek hard
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>>169678346
Why would you think I'd be playing jTOS?

>>169677843
People often ask me about playing Clown and I tell them they need to learn what each card does. Apparently, it's too hard for most people.

>Breaking shield with The Chariot

Absolutely orgasmic.
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>>169675126
We have fun
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>>169679069

Haha, I remember that some later versions of those simplistic effect GRF (to help reduce fps lag) had the card's art changed for a white one with the effect written (like, literally written COMA AND CURSE instead of the Death's card art, for example).

But a lot of people still don't know how to get all the benefits from it. It was a RNG skill but that kind of RNG were YOU built your luck and setup'd stuff based on what it brings to you.
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>>169675126
but I like things that you don't like
like your mom, I still enjoy fucking her
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>>169679684
It's upsetting how people think Coma is the only worthwhile thing you can get from Tarot Cards. The one I like the most is The Devil, it completely disables people and they don't even notice most of the time. The High Priestess is really good too because it Dispells everything, including skills that normally can't be Dispelled. You can do some nice things with it, like cause Stalkers to lose the skill they've copied, remove the nasty Soul Linker buffs, and make people waste EDP.
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>>169679895

Yeah, scoring a priest on that soul linked stalker (immune to dispell) followed by a quick musical strike/throw arrow/dissonance to fuck with their copied skill, kek.

The Wheel of Fortune was the most dangerous card, scoring double effects could cause some WTF? deaths that no one expected.
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>>169679141
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>>169681484
Why Gab is so shit?
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>gooks get fem archer smart casual in their medal shop

it's not fair
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>>169681675
Gabu is best girl
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>>169682061
It's well known that we are treated like shit.
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>>169682061
>>169682868
we'll also get them and others in medals, but later ofc
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Futureproof is recruiting.

Message Cats, Jennz, or Healmage in game for an invite.
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>>169683483
yo that pizza looks bangin yo
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>>169683626
it is a pizza from better times
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>Put down ein
>Cleric with full sp takes it
>Say it was for one of those guys who are running out of SP
>He keeps fucking taking it
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>>169683784
Just to fucc wid u muh nig
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>>169683784
>giving a shit about randoms in your party
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>>169683784
People don't see safety zone on the floor, you think they notice your Ein?
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I saw some class balance things on the news. When are these going to be implemented
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>>169685125
>Implement
>iToS
pick one
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>>169685156
Glad to see things haven't changed
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>>169685125
Soonâ„¢
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>>169685230
We will be under Nexon soon though
http://venturebeat.com/2017/02/26/nexon-invests-in-south-korean-pc-and-mobile-developer-imc-games/
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>>169685327
Good to be honest
Nexon may be evil but at least has experience
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>>169685327

iTOS will finally be closed and we'll all migrate to mobile
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Whoa, ToS general still going strong

What's endgame like now? What's changed?
Which class is the machine gun of numbers for huge DPS?
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>>169687307
yeah.............
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>>169687307
Been dead for a long time now son. Doppel, fencers and pyrolinkers are the big dick dps's going around. Pyrolinker/doppel for actual content. Fencer's are mainly just very strong against bosses.
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Oh....
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Until what level is the level 90 dungeon worth doing, in terms of EXP?
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>>169689264
until around 100
just do 2 or 3 runs and then keep going
don't wait for queue, just quest if you can't get in instantly
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I'm barb3dopp3 and thinking about using a stat reset to go full DEX because I keep hearing it being memed for swordsman. Is this the right thing to do? What about even a little STR, like 100?
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tell me about krivis
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>>169693117
Early game they are really good dps / support
Throw some attributes in heal and zaibas and get a 5 hammer and you'll carry pretty much every group while leveling
Late game they mostly become melstis slaves
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>>169693330
how would you build a melstis krivis for ET? is krivis diev good or is it a meme?
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>>169687307
lol
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>>169685156
why not both?

>>169685992
nope, it will be like maple story
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>>169683483
Dad. if i join, will you help me level?
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>>169690386
Does this apply from all subsequent dungeons after it?
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>>169693460
I don't have that much experience with kriv, I pretty much stopped playing mine after I got tao and didn't really enjoy it.
Miko is the new hot meme though and being built in to almost every cleric build.
Something like cleric2,priest1,miko,kriv3,tao would probably get you a spot in a lot of ET groups because priest, miko and melstis are all very useful things to have.

Kriv diev isn't that great for ET because a lot of groups would want a miko, and that miko will probably already either have aus or melstis, I mean unless you were rolling with a miko priest 3 or something but that seems unlikely.
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>>169693460
Krivis3Priest1OracleTao
Krivis3Priest2Tao

Everyrhing else Krivis3 isn't ET
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>>169696173
Krivis3 and miko are actually pretty awkard together
You have pretty much nothing to clap/swep and you can't kagura
It's bad in that build
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That was my last Soul Crystal.
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>>169696735
what does oracle add to the build?
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>>169696735
It's Krivis3Priest1LiterallyEverythingElse1Tao, Oracle is not that special.
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>>169699775
One circle wonder,prophecy and counterspell
>>169700707
Yes, but Priest2 or Oracle are the best option there
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>>169700761
Miko, Druid or even PD all works
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>>169700851
>Druid1
You have nothing but Carnivory5, it's shit
>Miko
You can't Kagura and Meltis
Most likely you have a Diev3MikoPD in party too
>PD
Oracle or Priest are better for the Krivis3 role in party
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>>169701229
>Carnivory5
Which is good for 1 rank.

>>169701229
>You can't Kagura and Meltis
No but you get Hayama.

>Oracle or Priest are better for the Krivis3 role in party
The role of Krivis3 in a party is to keep channeling Meltsis.
Only priest2 revive is somewhat useful but still worse than Aursine, prophecy is worse than Bloodletting since it has a number of uses.

These ranks give you damage, so you don't have to completely rely on Stormcall + Zaibas.
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Why do people like Enchant Lightning so much? From the description +600 damage at best doesn't sound so amazing, even with Sacra+Blessing+Enchant Fire+Cafrisun you at best manage 2400 autos. Yeah you can use with Storm Calling but even then.

Am I understanding something wrong?
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>>169701229
>Oracle
Does literally nothing in solmiki. Are you retarded, all you need is melstis. A couple dispellers could be useful in floor 27, but that's about it and if anything the PD could always just use bloodletting.

Priest 2 sounds useful, but again, melstis. Who gives a shit.

Miko on the other hand gives you the filler damage and utility to carry the build in general progression and dailies, which is actually useful. Oh and what happens when there's already a melstis at blut? You can do Kagura instead of going afk. What happens in ET when the diev only has clap 3? You can stack your clap. Having sweeping all for yourself when your tao charms and basically all your skills are ground spells is also a bonus.

All the groups in Orsha and Klaipeda to clear 40F have had c2 krivis 3 priest miko tao for that slot, so you know just maybe oracle doesn't matter in the slightest.
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>>169702661
It also gives better sinergy with Storm Calling.
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>>169702661
>Yeah you can use with Storm Calling but even then
It's x5 damage.
Five times your normal damage.
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>Why do people like Enchant Lightning so much?
Pyros are one of the meta DPS and to them 500 damage is actually a lot due to the agny multiplier and absurd multihits.

Many farming pyro builds end with enchanter for that reason.
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okay, let's go with c2 priest krivis3 miko tao, how would the point distribution look like? what would be the best order to level with?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411333i2h.1a2a345561.4f65.1121354355.2545
I got some points left cause I don't know what to pick up, can you guys help me?
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>>169703204
I'm going Wiz1>Link2>Pyro2>Thaum2>Sage purely for farming 315 mats. Should I go Enchanter instead at r8?
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411333i2h.1a243a5561.13233f4f65.1121354355.15213445.14556185
full or high con is best for pure support melstis slut

swap safety zone and cure if you prefer a more dps-ish route and go INT

>>169704715
For purely farming mats enchanter will kill groups faster, but missile hole from sage is still fairly good against magic mobs and probably better for dailies since those are filled with bosses where duped firebals are great.
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>>169702661
Enchant lightning is vague as fuck, the description and what some people say makes it sound like it only works with basic and physical/missile attacks but people always talk about it like it works on fireball too?

Does it just add 500 lightning damage on your property screen or is it weird somehow?
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>>169705216
Physical attacks gets changed to lightning, magical stay the same even if they are neutral like Magic Missile.
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>>169705216
It literally adds 500~600 damage to your property damage in character info.

The description does mention something about physical attacks becoming lightning property however but never paid much attention to it.
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>>169705737
So you can multiply physical damage with stormcalling and not magical, but if you use enchant lightning with fireball fireball will still do +500 damage per tick?
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>>169705931
Yes.
Well that +500 will get multiplied by Agny and your attribute, so it becomes pretty big.
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If you use pass on a Druid and he double casts Chortasmata, where does the carnivory/sterea troph target? Both grass zones or closest one or what?
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>>169706443
Also can Diev 3 Druid 3s get ET parties or does nobody really want them?
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>>169706660
it could replace diev3 miko PD2
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The hasta cloth set is looking really nice to me.
Do I really benefit that much from plate as a cleric, it's just more defense which can be made up from gems and transcending.
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>>169706660
>does nobody really want them?
That, but just because they crash people.
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>>169706660
Druids get ET party only if they are a core part of a group of people
They also most likely going to crash other party members and ruin the run
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>>169707092
>>169707081
Fucking hell why are the good classes all boring "use one or two skills" bullshit I just wanna fuck shit up as an awoo and have monster skills too.
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>>169707212
Create your own group of awoos
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>>169707092
Stonehenge doesn't crash anymore.
Unless you're playing in a dead server that's months behind everyone else hahaha
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>>169708327
>Stonehenge doesn't crash anymore.
Yeah, say that to my saalus cube.
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>>169692264

2:1 dex str
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>>169709818
200-300 STR won't do piss in the late game
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>>169709818
>>169710265

Damnit, here we go. So to STR or no STR? Personally some STR seems good, given the crit damage increase and synergy of STR with some of the swordsman skills.
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>>169711073
FULL
DEX
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>>169711073
Stats get more points the more you invest in them and STR does almost nothing once you start transcending. The only class that uses strength at all is Wugushi.
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>>169711438
>Stats get more points the more you invest in them
This is absolutely irrelevant. The difference between maxing one skill and spreading between two is like 20 stat points at 330. Twenty stat points is literally nothing in this game. Twenty CON is less than 2k HP. It's 20 accuracy or crit rate. It's shit.
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>>169711438
>The only class that uses strength at all is Wugushi.
You meant Rogue.
Wugushi go dex anyway since they need to spec in dex heavy class like Musk, Cannon or Mergen later.
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>>169711745
The difference is 20, so if you put all in dex you have 40 crit rate vs. 20 damage.
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Returning faggot here.

I've been playing as a FUCKING ARCHER back in early 2016. I have a shitload of physical attack items (hats etc.). I want to try something DIFFERENT, but − at the same time − I FUCKING HATE all ground-targeting skills (e.g. multishot) because I prefer using a gamepad. What's my options besides killing myself by sticking a cactus in my ass? Should I just sell my things and go for something INT-based? Or maybe there's some interesting physical cleric builds right now? I just want to level up (mostly soloing) and wreck shit w/o relying on other faggots too much.
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>>169712534
Actually no, that was assuming two non-STR/INT stats because STR and INT get extra scaling.

If you go full DEX your total stat points would be 522. If you go 2:1 DEX/STR your total stat points would be 605.
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>>169713161
Make a swordie in that case. Fencer, Doppel, Catagoon, Hopgoon, etc.
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>>169713691
Well I already thought about that, but can a swordsman really wreck shit like, let's say, fletcher did back then?
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>>169714245
Fencer has the highest single target DPS among swordies, so it's the best choice agains bosses, but doesn't really fit in ET/Solmiki parties. Catagoon was really buffed and now does well in PvE and it's great in PvP. Doppel is expensive as fuck and its performance is party dependent. Hopgoon is the cheapest of those builds and performs well even when playing solo. R7 is pure suffering, but you'll shine when you become Dragoon2.
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>>169715081
>fencer
>better at blut/nuaele/ET bosses than doppel
Nope

And those are the only bosses that actually matter, so why is fencer the best choice against bosses? I mean, if you're solo sure but generally you don't do any of the relevant content solo.

Besides, Fencer isn't even considered competition if they don't have at least a lolopanther rapier.
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>>169708327
Yes, Druid3 doesn't crash anymore ehehe
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>>169715426
Doppel beast Fencer on bossing only when whaled
Fencer on single target require lot less silvers, also name one Fencer with lolopanther rapier
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>>169715081
>Fencer has the highest single target DPS among swordies
Fencers get shit on by doppels any day on the bosses that matter. Multiply that by at least a factor of 10 in aoe scenarios like ET.
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>>169715757
>Doppel beast Fencer on bossing only when whaled

If you are not considering endgame/whaling then might as well just use a pyro then since it will be stronger than a fencer with even less investment.
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>>169716194
Pyro needs to be whaled even to deal more than 1s damage on r8 world bosses, retard.
Plus pyro on contested bosses is shit.
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Been a while since I've been on here. What happened to chastising every monk in existence? Did everyone get bored or are they not THAT bad anymore?
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>>169716373
It's ok for missions, which is what you're gonna be doing since you want to separate yourself from endgame and whaling.
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>>169717252
>for missions
lol who gives a fuck.
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>>169717161
Monkos are extinct.
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>>169716373
>r8 world bosses
Who cares, those are literally one fletcher/fencer doing all the damage and 4 leechers in a party.
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>>169717698
>not doppel
uuuuuh...
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>>169717662
impressive... bullied them into extinction.
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Atleast we try to get that fucking box
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>>169719413
>5 players
Lol
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>>169719413
Is coffee still active?
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>>169719640
the other guild had 6 players but better roster, thats our GvG issue
that was also the actual Top PvP guild in Fedimian
>>169719716
yes
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>>169719824
>Top PvP Guild
>6 players
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>>169719964
It's a comfy server, we are going to get our box now with most tryhards going away
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>>169719824
I'd want to go back but I'm afraid
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>>169719964
>Fedimian
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>>169719824
>Insanity
>top PvP guild
i laughed
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>>169720347
>but I'm afraid
Of what?
We won't eat you.
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>>169720596
I kind of dissapeared last time
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>>169720891
Like 90% of the people now back in did.
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>>169719640
This time we were 8!
We still lost though
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>>169720505
?
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>>169721235
But it doesn't count because Russian cheaters went for a crashing enemey team victory
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>>169721526
Thats old as fuck
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>>169721565
Oh come on, we can't really compete anyway.
After all the nerfs Kinos are still bullshit.
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>>169719716
If I come to fedi can I bang that pelt in the middle?
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>>169721661
It's the last rankings before GvG was disabled you knob
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>>169721083
Maybe I'll pm Capy if I get a token soon.
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>>169721885
Just do it anyway, we could use a more lively guild chat.
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>>169721526
Only the first two guilds on that list mattered, the other ones were a lot weaker.
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>>169721526
Legends are most likely dead after no more free TP
Capy is an half-maid and he say they are more dead than alive
The other guilds always happened to be on that list just for luck
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>>169721854
Yes, it's old as fuck
Some of the guilds on that list doesn't even exist anymore
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>>169720117
What's the point of an MMO with almost no people in it? You people are delusional.
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>>169722430
>Maids
>mattering in PvP
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>>169723565
>Guild either first or second place in GBL since foundation
>not matterinf
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>>169723731
>things that happened
>your post
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>>169723562
>2017
>any form of interaction with other players
LOL
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>>169723562
It has enough people to substain itself, as an MMO ToS is doing fine
Yes on Fedimian too
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>>169723562
You know, "massively" as a term was meant to just differentiate 4-8-16-32 multiplayer games from multiplayer games that could host 100+ players in the same instance. If you're a size queen that's your problem but lots of people enjoy MMOs with this kind of population size.
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>Feditards not even trying anymore to make their server not looking so dead
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>Fedimian
>lots of players
>lots
:thinkim_face:
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>>169727115
No one ever said in this thread Fedimian has lots people.
Not even the people playing there.
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>>169723562
Players on Orsha asked Orange if they are planning any kind of merge.
The answer was :"No, we are satisfied with small servers for people who like smaller community"
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>>169716194
>>169717252
>>169716373

Fencer is better in everyway than pyros. Pyros is the one who needs whale do to r8, fencer do r8 content like nothing with a lv 170 weapon, two lv 6 gems and 50% composee attribute, while pyro's five hammer won't cut (agny multiply the final damage so +280% of your low matk ticks = shit)
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>3,250 players
rip
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>>169731259
Still in the 20 most played MMORPG on Steam
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>Token finally run out (including all the free 7 days ones they handed out)
>Literally happier than before because I have less runs and can't transfer items from characters

I guess the next step is just drop the game completely.
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>HL 3
>Corsair 3

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11222888.23334455.11233e4551657a8195.1f2c3151718a95

>R8

what the fuck should I pick

1: Doppel:
Deeds + Cyclone and DPE.
2: Fencer: no 315 weapon, Highlander 3 already has armor break so it's the weakest choice by now. Would totally go Fencer if it had a 315 weapon, just for the style (and lunge + rapier mastery boosts all my skills).
3: Shinobi
I hate shinoti and there's only one skill to combo with clones (moulinet).
4: Barb c1;
Cleave gives such a huge boost to all my slashing skills that you just can't forget barb, also, the stun+cleave combo itself scales nicely
5: Pelt 1
Everyone loves pelt c1, their utility skills and attributes are unparalleled and this actually gives a lot of pvp evasion valor to the build too!
6: Murm c1
I would suffer with weapon switches but the shields's huge base damage skills plus headbutt's debuff is nice r8 tier damage, but much weaker than a rodelero's full strike combo but still works. also, the helmet alone is a very solid asset in any swordsman build
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>>169736852
>what the fuck should I pick
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>>169736852
I'd say doppel cause Corsair3 basically locks your character into being a farm bot.
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>>169736852
Nigga you combo both crown and moulinet with bunshin, and moulinet deals double damage to target affected by crown in korea which also applies to moulinets from your clones.
Don't be dumb, the only option for hl3 corsair3 is shinobi.
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>>169737414
doppel is really a strong choice

>>169739758
moulinet already deals double damage on crown'd targets in iTOS, but that's the only bunshin combo for this build which is not that good as it seems, specially without cleave and double slash to abuse all bunshin power. I like the highlander shnobi combo but there's no room for corsair 3 to make it decent
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>>169707652
>not running ET with 5 AWOOS
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>Some alchemist & squire have been parking their asses on top of the market guy in Fedi1
>For the past month
>Still nothing done about them
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y-youtube is telling me something..
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>>169742653

can''t just icewall?
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>>169742939
>become a founder
Dropped.
>>
>Actually did a reskinning service for something else

Mark the calendar. I think this is the first time.
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>>169745194
nope
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>>169746970

I've seen a lot of sunflowers turned into audras, five hammer into toy hammer, even vienarazis mace into toy hammer, lol

If I was a orange weapon autist I would turn my horn staffi nto a audra for my cryokino, audra is so fucking nice
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queue for gvg nerds
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Lookatdat HP!
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>>169745316
>Become a Foundler
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1M HP someday!
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>>169751949
>doesn't even have rune of giants
>>
Should I wait more info on the stat rebalance, or should I use all my money on items now?
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>>169750136
>sunflowers turned into audras
>vienarazis mace into toy hammer,
You can't do that, item has to be equal or higher stars. Unless you can't speak English correctly and mean they used the sunflower as a skin for audra, and toy hammer as a skin for vien. But then
>five hammer into toy hammer
You couldn't do that, so what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>169752404
Not sure what you mean but we're not getting stat rebalance for a very long time.
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>>169752598
>sunflower as a skin for audra, and toy hammer as a skin for vien
*audra as a skin for sunflower, and vien as a skin for toy hammer, I mean
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How do I ask people if i can join their guilds? It's so nerve-wracking!
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>>169752598
>>169750136
Was that (recently) tested by anyone?
Rank8 preview by IMC was so shitty and could be wrong. Or it could be changed?
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>>169754202
ask a guildleader, see OP
add them to FList if they are afk or offline

CnL is full
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>>169754962
>a tsog guild is full
I thought this game was ded. How do you find so many autists here to actually fill an entire guild. I think only very popular mmorpgs are able to do so on 4chan
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>>169755178
3X players limit
and all of these guilds are not 100% tosg
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>>169752657
More about what happened on R7>R8, where I used all my money on R7 things and R8 got announced in the next week, not everything is quite useless.
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>>169755343
>not
I mean, now.

Because everything that I had on R7 is useless besides my virtov set, which is questionable.
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>>169755343
>>169755524
how?
R8 only gave new weapons (and WB armor that is not a lot better than old)
good armor,jewels,hats from R7 are still BiS
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>>169755694
weapons, armor, accessories

the only thing we didn't get was a necklace, which is debateable looking how agny can be nice even for melee classes.

As long with trans going into waste on anything you had before, seemed a big change for me.
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anyone want to help me power level? I'm currently level 58. I'll join your guild!
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>>169756375
nope. stop begging for lvl a dozen times a day

>>169756358
if you dont use agny.. old jewels are still top. no rly better armor too. just 315 weapons
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Comfy is recruiting!

If you're from SEA or a strayan cunt, come join us here in Telsiai!

Returning players, new players, Varenan refugees, everyone is welcomed. Only requirement is active. We'll only kick you out whenever someone new wants to join+you haven't logged in for like, a month without notice. Even if you're out, you can rejoin anytime if you're playing again.

We offer help with quests, free hampsters for everyone, tips and advice on gameplay, friendship, life and more.

If you have any inquiries, feel free to ask.

P/s: Zoe if you're reading this we got you a hampster egg already.
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>>169757457
tfw not on televisai ;_;
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>>169756375
you shitter still that low? ayy lmao
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>>169754221
You're not able to enter the items in an incorrect way at all due to checks beforehand, because of the way the skill works.
But after playing around for a while because of your post, it seems to be possible to get around the check if you do it a certain way
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>>169758994
So the only way to do that is a exploit. And people can just check your items.
Naah not gonna turn into La**co K***enberg
>>
queue for gvg nerds
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>>169759575
I don't know if it's an *exploit*, it's just IMC quality programming. At the least you can use briquetting sacrificing a 1* item without changing its appearance.

Now how do I get twinkle rods again?
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>>169760380
Gacha in ktos

??? in itos
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WHAT THE FUCK
EXP TOME IS RUNNING OUT EVEN ON MERCENARY QUEUE LOL
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>>169761367

Is it the free ones from the event? Only the TP shop ones have that feature.
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>>169761367
>>169761528
only 4x and 8x stop running in town+que
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Bye everyone it's time for me to stop playing. I hope you all play a fun game after ToS.

See ya!
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>>169762630
Bye semen demon
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>>169762630
Demon ;_;
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>>169761367
>>169761528

oh yes, was a free one

thanks
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>>169762630
Uhh ;_;

bb
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>>169762630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
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>>169762630
No! i'll stop wearing red horns ;-;!
>>
>brown tini horn is a 700 dpk

I can't believe. someone please tell me this is a lie and the dpk is like 200
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>>169763959
Just farm blue horns and pay me to convert them for you.
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>>169763959
its 5xx to ~700

i farmed them a few weeks ago
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How low will it go for the month of March?
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>>169762630
I used to like you more when you weren't in a guild, but still bye
>>
Before I invest more time and money into this game, how long do you think it'll last? I'm hoping at least 5 years.
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>>169764480
Atleast put some effort into your bait
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>>169764480
probably 2-4
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>>169762630
Don't come back
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>>169764802
I'm not baiting. I'm genuinely curious. Relatively new and I'm enjoying it so far. Haven't made any friends yet but I may if I think it's worth it.

>>169764904
That's a pretty big guess.
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>>169764480
Till it first anniversary. They will stop caring about iToS afterwards and eventually close the servers.
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>>169751389
makes me think >>169719413
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What's the quickest way to craft a 100 times? A while ago, someone told me corpse hand but I can't buy anymore from the market.
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wtf
>open chest
>nothing
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>>169763959
Farmed them personally, never dropped one below the 600 kills
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>>169766476
farm them or i know what else

>>169766672
got some at 54x or 56x

>>169766625
get Kim'd nerd
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what is the quest line to trigger the sleeping upent quest

i never did any klaip quests and just pleveled from dungeons/missions with exp tomes
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>>169766625
The item is on the ground, I can see the beam
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>>169766992
I don't know but the map is cobalt forest
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>>169767053

fug

anyone know what it gives
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Is this game saved yet? Serious replies please.
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>>169767382

Newt armor recipes and mats
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>>169766017
Call GvG on Fedimian a glorified 5v5 TBL nd most likely the guild ranking between 8-10 place in NA are better than all Fedimian Top 3 guilds combined but atleast they are doing GvG, not like Futureproof
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Give me ONE good reason (besides cute characters) to play this game again, just one!
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Did they ever make Alchemist or Squire useful outside of afk characters?
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>>169767803
No.
>>169767601
No.
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>>169767803
The implementation of team storage ensured that they will never make them useful. Pardoner lucked into getting powerful unique skills while Squire's "don't let bosses move" thing is cool in theory but useless in practice and Alch's have never had anything good.
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Did they remove channels? I don't remember knidos jungle only having 1 channel...
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>>169767712

We miss you.
>>
In case you missed it
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/gm-information-session-orange-returns/349943
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>>169766017
:thinking:
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>>169768064
Awakening is okay. Gem is okay but gems aren't needed that much, although the boosts to them helped. Homu will probably be buffed eventually. Briquetting is technically okay now that there are strong enough weapons to justify the loss of potential and will keep getting better. (something with 500 base can get more than + 50 or + 60, which is like +5, or like + 3 more after +5 + it can be made to look like something else.)

>>169768245
They keep shifting channels like every week
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>>169768669
Oh yeah alchs are definitely useful but he was asking about the potential to play them as something other than an alt which isn't really there. Even if they buff homonculus it's tradeable and usable by other wizards I think.
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>>169768613
Are Feditards masochistd or what?
Are you really ejoying bragging about your joke of GvG?
Thats pathetic
>not even 10 people
>getting anal raped without even fighting back
Considering now a guild can only have 2 matches per day and no real worth the time to invest in PvP rewards i would whisper Capyba after the match to ask him to not queue for GvG, sure you feed a victory but there is no fun in such one side battle and maybe actual PvP guilds would like to fight another PvP guild instead of wasting time in queue and 1 of the 2 matches agaist people like you
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>>169768783
Only alchs can use homunculus
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>>169768613
>dragoons
>warlocks
>SRs
>PDs
>inquisitors
You've got the right dosage of PvP cancer even in a dead server.
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>>169768979
>no kinos
>no cryomancers
>no chronos
>7 people
Thats not cancer at all, thats a shit TBL random team
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>>169769358
The fact pancreatic cancer exists doesn't make testicular cancer any better.
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I must say that decay is really impressive, even from a lv 5 dirty pole (necro c1).
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>GM Orange come on Fedimian for reasons
>"Any issue with new GBL?"
>Server response is we gives no fucks about that, clear up Demon Prison from Lock bots and Dina from Necro instead of wasting time on PvP
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Serious topic: Animus

>animus
>2017
>magic damage
>not a pyro/pd
>2017
>not using agny even on your doppel
>217


I know, I know that the agny is basically a karacha hanging on your neck with ~+220 fire damage but I must ask here, is there any hope for animus? Price went from like, 12m to 2m now, lol. I have agny already but I dislike the lack of mdef. So I wanna know, how effect magic amplification is compared to +elemental damage? Is there any scenario were a inferior mamp, let's say 300 m.amp (around 150 damage) vs 220 fire is worth using the animus? What about full con wizards for pvp and shit, does it help bypass mdef or as soon as you're not hitting 1 the fire damage does better?
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>>169771617
>Animus
was never really good and not worth 10m+
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>>169771617
Animus was never good
magic attack on it is irrelevant for a serious boost and mamp is a shit stat
Only way to make Animus worth is stacking hats and HP recovery awakenings before equip animus
Otherwise the difference between it and max petamion was already low and now Agny is plain better even for not pyro wizards if they don't have tons of HP recovery stuff
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>>169769732
If only it worked faster. Status effects always work so slowly on enemies in games.

>>169771617
>is there any hope for animus?
If you're not using pyro, then it's okay for other spells if you have a lot of HP regen and can get like 400mamp.

>Is there any scenario were a inferior mamp, let's say 300 m.amp (around 150 damage) vs 220 fire is worth using the animus?
The 2 situations are
A: Not having +~100 mdef is getting you killed
B: You're on the borderline of not being able to harm enemies, in which case mamp will allow you to hurt them sometimes while ele attack won't. However it won't really matter.

Max peta is better because of the con. Animus is also kind of annoying because you have to take it off and put it on again every map change if you want full effects(since it'll take your previous necklace HP regen into account too.)
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Agny should have been a set effect, like the anti-stuff equipment. Each piece should have given you like + 100% fire damage or something.
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>>169772259
>>169771724
>>169771898

yeah, I know about the snapshot trick, I could have...

666 HP rec from full con 330 (35 bonus)
+120 from 3 cheap hats,
+88 from rhevisan amulet,
+44 from Lv 5 red gem shoes
+24 from 2x rhevisan bracelets = (not even trying hard for rapid bangles +40)
+21 from hasta top plate
+40 from lion shield
+46 from vitt corona rod
unfortunately I didn't found any rare +hp regen awakened shit on the market (it can go very high iirc like +100 or even better on 220 stuff), but this set alone would give me...

1049 recovery = 419 m.amp = ~209 damage + 33 matk from animus itself = ~242 damage, better than a +5 agny but with a lot of switching trouble.

I would totally go animus if I had a vienarazis staff, that thing gives a huge +435 HP rec (~87 damage), lol.
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>>169773423
>all of that shit for tiny +dmg
nah, agny/maxPeta all the way
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>>169773575
Doomposters on suicide watch.
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>>169773649

we're gonna make it bros
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They dindn't resetted GvG ranks
This season started with the ranks from the last week of GvG before the turning off
Whoever was first the last week of GvG is first for this season so there is no point in doing GBL for the next 3 weeks
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>>169773575
KIM WILL MAKE TOS GREAT AGAIN JUST LIKE TRUMP WILL WITH MURRICA!
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>>169755178
>this retard actually fell for the doom postings
I bet you voted for shillary too
stop watching the fake news
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Tfw not Earth, nor even Holy property
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>>169774689
Somebody needs to post it on the forums
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>>169775354

kek, this is okay already
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>>169775736
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/new-gvg-season-but-klaipeda-ranking-mmr-never-reset/350009
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>>169775784
Simply based.
Is Csiko /our/ girl?
>>
DO YOU KNOW WHY CORSAIR SUX

YOU CAN'T PERFORM PISTOL SHOT WITH 5HAMMER
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>>169776141
Because its not a gun?
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>>169776207

No, anon. It requires a rapier/sword on the main hand so you can't enjoy the five gems bonus on the PS damage.
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>>169776278
Well, its a Swordman class, not a Hammerman class.
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>>169776141
see
>>169776481
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>>169776481
>Swordsman class
>Best with spear and gun
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>>169776481
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Hello, I'm level 162. should I grind for my levels in demon prison until like 165 or just use all my cards now?
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>>169776641
You're still in level range of 145, might as well ride it to 165.
Then quest your heart out (assuming no bee leech).
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>>169776641

>162


you're fine, just quest your way to rank 6, but remember to do your dailies (siauliai) everyday
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gay
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>>169776790
but I ran out of quests I just haven't used any of the exp cards. I still have 187 level 5 cards and I saved all the higher ones too.
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>>169776581
spear is closer to sword, has bladeparts. hammer is just a maceshit
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>>169776932
>>169776641
use Exp Card calculator addon and spam cards when they can get you to 18x
from there you can quest to 200+

dont forget to 100% maps and do siauliai each day
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>>169776932

Get the card exp calculator and the better quests addon, then tell us how further those cards will lead you.
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>>169776932
Do teh daily requests in fedi for 5 more cards a day
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>>169777421

I wish they made those daily scales with level. would be nice to get 5 lv 13/14 cards. also, the TBL card should scale as well

not that it's hard to level but having more alternatives to get exp is always good
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>>169773649
>>169774398
>>169774694
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>>169777959

by scales with level I meant up to current content, they stop at lv 10 or 11 iirc
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>>169777959
soon

>Mercenary Post Receptionist:
> - The daily quests that can be obtained from the Mercenary Post Receptionist have been improved.
> - Conditions required for quest completion have been lowered.
> - Experience Cards are no longer given as a reward - instead Experience is rewarded to the player upon completion, In addition to this, the experience gained after completing a quest has been increased by around 20%.
> - Rewards have been added for segments LV. 235~284 and Lv. 285~335.

maybe
http://pastebin.com/vt21jFAJ
>kTEST
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>>169778020
delet
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>>169777959
>>169778040
Level 300 enemies still randomly drop level 10 cards for some reason. IMC has got to work on that some day.
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How many of you have 5+ characters above mid 200s but aren't getting up to 10+ abrasives a day from evac?
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>>169778693
>10+ abrasives a day from evac
fake news
>>
remove cryo they bring nothing to the game
remove kino they bring even less to the game
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>>169779123
Remove the game it brings nothing but suffering.
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>>169779235

H-Help
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>>169779429
>0/3
GOOD GOY
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>>169779429
>216
Solo that shit.
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>>169768579
>Nuale Cards are working as intended, the description is wrong

So, the item absolutely destroying mages, which, has 0 mdef breaks(unlike all physical classes who have armor break everywhere) is intended?

>KTOS balance changes might not come with the major content update


Fuck this shit, the hell my crush like this shit.
Maybe I should find another one. I just don't know if I can find one that like me back again
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>>169779429
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>>169771569
I need to get a server change to Fedimian
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>>169715774
Where is the proofs though
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>>169779748
>implying the safest classes to play in the game need easier access to damage
>implying the class tree with the most CC in the game should be able to do more damage
neck urself
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>>169779748
>caring about minigames
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>>169780037
Are you retarded or what.
What you said applies to few classes in the tree only, everything that aren't those classes will do absolute shit. There more classes than what is "meta" dicksucker

>easier access to damage
No easier, none. Someone with x8 nuaele and revhishan won't take ANY DAMAGE AT ALL from wizards, not just WL and Eleme, the whole class tree will do 1dmg no matter what.
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>>169780290
>implying decay
>implying kino doesn't exist to lock down targets
>implying cryo doesn't exist to crash the rest
>implying linker doesn't exist for the rest of the party/team ect

DPS wiz needs help, I'll give you that anon.
The rest of the class tree is unadulterated cancer
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>>169780397
>>169780037
But clerics are fine, right retard?
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>>169780473
No, no they're not. They should also not have access to magic break.
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Watched some vids with 330 tards running 130 dungeon solo. What the fuck why aren't they killing the harpy faster than my lvl 227 fletcher? Hell, I'm killing her faster even with crossbow+manamana. What the fuck is this shit.
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>>169780731
>many people are shit
no news grandpa
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>>169780731
dumb frogposter
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>>169780290

There's still the kino/FF build, since Blood Curse is able to pierce through high mdef and benefits highly from joint penalty. But yeah outside that you're fucked, Rhevisan is way too strong in PvP.
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>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-little-mafia-behing-farming-orange-weapons-mats/350008
>tfw on Fedimian when farming for my mats if someone solo or in party walks in channel i was farming always asked me if i was farming and they always moved on another channel
>tfw when i asked someone who came questing when was in DPK range to change channel they always did it and neber missed the drop
Truly comfyness
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>>169781623
is that pinoys?
gas them and gas the retarded DPK system already
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>>169768979
You listed like half of the existing r8 classes.
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>>169771724
>>169771898
Animus was getting me 800 m.amp.
Wen transcendence wasn't a thing 400 m.attack was HUGE.
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No
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Are there any old, like pre-wow mmorpgs that aren't ruined by time and renewals (i.e. not RO), and still fun to play with lots to do that isn't PVP or raids? Gotta be cute and have customization.

Or fuck mmorpgs, what's a game where I can kill shit and have fun with people without some competition or any sense of hurry or daily chores going on?
>>
>>169786364
Btw, I'm not doom posting but this game needs a while to update and I can't take waiting months for new real content to be developed for this game while also waiting for even more months for content to be added to Mabi. I need something that already has content to enjoy until there's more content in the games I play.
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>240 Dungeon queue is this flooded
ALIVE SERVER
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You win, ungrateful fucks.
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>>169788950
Is this how Futureproof ends?
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>>169789051
>Futureproof = Cats
LOL
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>>169789096
If the pizza retard quits who is going to lead that shit?
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>>169788306
>240 boss gives 10k
>290 boss gives 110k
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>>169789051
>someone posts a picture with a pizza on it
>IT HAS TO BE CATS
anon
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>>169789719
Who else could be?
You have to present proof of anon not being Cats
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>>169789719
>>169789780
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>>169789884
dude what
>>
Haha seriously though you can't even get a guild leader to stick around
>>
>Cats quit
>No fucks gives by /tosg/ when Futureproof has always been the most /tosg/ of the /tosg/ guilds
Neo /tosg/ is fucking disgusting
>>
>169790282
t. Cats
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What is this meme?
Did Cats seriously quit ToS?
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>people surprised Cats and others are dropping ToS

Only fucking retarded faggots play this fucking game, it's amazing that only know people are realizing how bad it is and jumping back to XIV.
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>>169790923
>XIV

lol
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>>169791008
That's how bad ToS is. Do you fully grasp the severity of the situation now?
>>
>tfw no good mmo

What do we do lads
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>>169790720

I'm done.

I never expected a warm going away party like Lolipan, or Cattley, or Cannell. When I accepted I knew I would be hated for months, but I could keep Futureproof running and make things fun for our members, so that's what I did.

Fuck you all very much. You get what you wanted. I hope TOSG feels a little colder. I'm going back to Monster Hunter general now.
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^ *cumms in you*
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>guild drama
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>You lived long enough to see that embarrassment of a guild leader quit

What a time to be alive
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>>169791797
>>169791369
>>169789884
>>169788950
Real Cats here, all of you have to try harder than that. FPs love me, and the guild we're building.
Why would you try and ruin one of the few guilds left here? People in FP are having fun. If you were in FP you would understand.
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>>169792326
Nobody tried to ruin anything.
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>>169792326
>>169792326
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>>169792636
Is this the traitor meatup?
C*ts would never miss a backstabber meetup.
>>
>People are starting to refer to me by the shop I run

THIS IS WEIRD.
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>>169792636
>using pic i posted months ago
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WHO IS THE REAL CATS?
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>>169793556
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>>169793556
>>
>20 levels difference
>boss hits 10k
>5 levels difference
>defense unchanged
>boss hits 1
explain why this is a thing
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>>169793527
BUFFIES

what happened to Kinte btw, did he quit?
>>
Why play FFXIV when you can just play TERA?
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>>169793910
Because the devs know the mob AI is a joke and without those ridiculous level based damage modifiers people would have the gall to farm high level areas on low level characters for more xp.
>>
What's the best class combination for fast levelling/solo? I just want to explore the world
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>>169795069
Why play video games when you can improve your life and of those around you?
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>>169796375

SW3 Cata 3 goon 2
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>>169796375
Fletcher 3 Hacka
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What does Mergen 2 need to save the day
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>>169799681
More players?
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>>169799681
missile agny

t. imc
>>
So did Cats quit or not?
>>
I cummd in cats
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>>169790282
Nobody liked oldFP back in the day and this neoFP joke of a guild is not even worth giving shits about.
>>
ohayou subhumans don't even play the game anymore and yet they still come here to shitpost about FP
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>>169801839
>people not playing yet still come here to shitpost about other people playing
sounds ok
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>>169801687
Half of shitposter here not even playing the game anymore >>169801839

t. quit playing months ago
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Give me a fun build!
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Cats has yet to post a solid proof of him still playing though
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>>169802426
A2R1ScoutFletcher3Hacka
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>>169802426
>fun
>in mr.kim's mongoloid strawberry farming simulator 2017
>>
check this 3
>>
Anyone else not play the game in months but keep sunwhapark's kToS updates bookmarked and check it each week to see if there are any good changes?
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>she doesn't have alts
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>>169778049
>Fixed issue when attacking the Pears of Anguish they would sometimes take damage multiple times
Good thing this won't come to iTOS anytime soon
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>>169803304
I keep 'playing' that is logging to do some dailies and alleviate MMORPG itch and then follow with my life.

This game is great for that, you don't feel like playing it after an hour because it's not nearly as fun as other MMORPGs and you can reliably do that since the game is never going to change or improve.
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Gooks have some sort of Valentine event too?
ktest server has new achievements for eating chocolate (x5, x20, x50, x70, x100) giving titles for each step.
x100 gives Chocoholic!

Maybe we'll be getting those too. I'm literally shaking, I haven't eaten even a single choco yet ;_;
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>>169803878
I can't even bother to log in for dailies anymore. I lost hope that the game will ever improve, but I still check sunwhapark because it only takes like 5 seconds.
>>
moshi moshi dead game desu
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>>169806492
Nope, alive
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moshi moshi dead thread desu
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shhh, tosg is sleeping
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>>169806757
ay taco
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>>169809676
time to wake up
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Syppy!
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>>169810002
Mein Führer!
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More dead than the Dead Sea.
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Do I go green gems or yellow gems on my doppel 3's weapon?
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>>169811569

yellow for full dex
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>>169811569
Depends on your crit rate.
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>she's not a crit wolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FrgnAL-YaE

lmao
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>>169812301

My crit rate's around 400, do I need green?
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>>169812912

what's your level and gear, lol
do you have highlander on your build?
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>>169812824
Crit wolf is fun until you realize how limited you are in offensive options and the ability to improve the character. Pretty much a Jeigan build.
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>>169812972
> highlander
I'll fuck you up boi
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>>169813303

well, DP has no cooldown and works nicely as a filler and carnivory, even 0 int, deals a okay damage with a vienarazis mace (1k matk, decent phys damage, just go with two reds and wolf doubles stuff)
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>>169813656

haha

highlander is not mandatory, sword 2 into barb 3 is much better sometimes

I was just asking because highlander builds are better for yellow gems (you almost have no other option), but a barb build with low critical rate can roll green gem for a while until you get a proper critical rate gear to go full dps with yellows at 220+ swords
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>zombie bokor 3
>zombify 17 (gem+dm)
>inquisitor
>cast malleus
>every zombie now deals 3k+ each hit on r8 mobs
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>>169814303
We STILL don't have that triple hp zombie buff do we?
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>>169814303
Get miko for zomfify 18 and kagura for +60% dmg.
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i have a single 8x exp tome. I'm currently level 60. When should I be using it to optimise the results?
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>>169814303
r-really?
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>>169816241
190/alemeth
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>>169816241
alemeth around 200~240 after you get a good party and everyone is committed to grind for at least an hour, or stay in town over several days and run missions only around 170~200
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Name 1 really interesting build and I'll start playing ToS again.
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>>169817692
No. Noone gives enough of a shit about some random bitch. Get the fuck out of here and never return. stupid cunt
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>>169817692
Piss off cuckgarden nobody wants you here.
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So I guess everyone active left FP. Where did they go?
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>>169818194
>>169818201
Please don't bully
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>>169817692
Capyba's Capybas
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>>169818201
this
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>>169819408
Shouldn't murbish be the one with the knife?
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>>169818201
>>169819130
Well I do
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>>169819538
Murbish has a knife, he's stabbing.
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>>169622980
>playing nexon games in 2017

thanks for the porn tho
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>>169819585
okay thank you.
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That thing with the flamingos in Absenta Reservoir still really bothers me.
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>>169819538
you uncultured swine it's the assassination of julius caesar they all have daggers!
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>>169819667
oh ok, I couldn't make it out because of the text, that makes sense then
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>>169820385
>I couldn't make it out because of the text
There is no text obscuring it.
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>>169818993
thats not a build
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>>169820535
ok I'm just blind then
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>>169817692

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1136669ff.23334455.14213545.11415a6a758591a1bb.153555.142a314a55
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>Regional Guild Battle Armband (1st Place)
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>really like support/CC/toolbox support characters
>dude timed dps checks lmao
>also there's no way for you to make yourself stronger than the million other full con supports running around
>better roll a dps if you want to excel

Game makes me angery.
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I wish Desu notices me
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>>169821487

go dps psychokino

no joke, lol.

feel free to mix chrono 3, pyro 3, wiz 3 warlock and etc
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Should I max firewall or flame ground?
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>>169821759
Max firewall or don't even take it. Make means 14 or 15. If you're pyro 2, don't bother.
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>>169821759
Max flame ground wtf why do people even mention firewall.
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>>169822918
Fast and lots of hits v slow and not many hits.
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>>169822989
Flame Ground does more damage than even Frost Cloud. It does billions of hits when maxed. It's true that it's slow though.
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>>169823490
>Flame Ground does more damage than even Frost Cloud.
over like 3x the time. No one's got time for that.
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>>169821881
>>169822918
>>169822989

Firewall = more fast burst damage
Extra point in FG = better uptime, but basically no more damage unless the fight lasts for days

I mean, you get almost all could wish from FG at lv 1 desu, I prefer having firewall's burst

if you're, somehow as as pyro fighting something for more than 25 seconds, wellad

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222..1f2f315a6173

I would go full firewall + desmodus gem for pyro 3, option is FW 14 +1 FG

FG stacks will come from the enchanter scrolls and pass, not the duration+cooldown

Even pyro 2 should roll firewall imo, lol
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>>169823963
>Extra point in FG = better uptime, but basically no more damage unless the fight lasts for days
Better uptime = more hits = more damage.
Nobody cares about shortass grind fights vs mobs which get imploded by elememes and doppelniggers.

FG hits 41 times when maxed and has >100% uptime.
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>>169824205
>Nobody cares about shortass grind fights vs mobs which get imploded by elememes and doppelniggers.

So what do you care about? longass boss fights where the boss constantly walks out of the circle?
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>>169824205

Skill reset potion is not that expensive, anon.
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>>169824461
>>169824505
enjoy your gimped build specialized in grinding alemeth when there's no elememe around.
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>>169824743
pyro is just for farming lmao
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>>169821487
You're just supposed to make yourself tankier, for example orange shield transcended and nuaeles. Then you join a gvg guild or do TBL.

If you're interested in Solmiki, you can even run a party with 4 support and just the 1 whale doppel and it's not like all supports like running that so you can definitely find a group if you want to do it and try making friends.
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>>169824743
>>169824912

why the fuck are you guys talking about

>elememe

lol, what elememe has to do with this discussion? elememe is now a subpar weak build in comparison to pyro, 2x fireball alone > 3 frost cloud, if you link shit together thing is even more obscene

the discussion is what complements this better. my opinion is that low lv FG + firewall burst dost a much better job than 3 days waiting for lv 15 FG ticks. shit dies faster and you move to the another mob spot faster. Almost all the damage from FG comes from the Skill lv 1 + attribute+matk+agny and possible pass and enchanter scrolls

LV 15 FG would shiny on a hypothetical very long fight but this simply won't happens, fat bosses moves around all the time and people would delete your FG every now and then in a competition.

The only scenario were FG 15 would help could be those guild raids were no one will fuck with your aoe since everyone's working for the same goal, but even so shit happens

Also, you act as if firewall did no damage, but that's not true, firewall is much more flexible and adds a lot of damage too. FG 15 deals 41 hits? nice, firewall deals up to 18 hits per fucking tile. it's not the perfect spell but you're acting as if fg lv 1 + firewall was trash compared to fg 15 + no firewall, lol
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>>169824912
Yeah, and when mobs have 250+ k hp you need damage from FG.
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>>169825483
>per fucking tile
It's 18 hits in total retardlord.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122772.1123354551.1f2f31415a6271.11243a4a55
what do
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>>169825483
>firewall deals up to 18 hits per fucking tile.
I still remember arguing with people who thought it did 18 hits total

Like this guy >>169826153
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>>169826235
war
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Firewall does really a lot of hits, waaay better than maxed FG and more than 18 hits for sure but we must remember the Size X number of tiles a mob could eat so it's not THAT good, just better than ground fucking fifteen.
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>>169826725
FG has 100% uptime and is a real AOE. It's much better for killing high HP mobs.
And the thing about bosses moving around is rarely true and would affect FW too anyway. And people who Rain on your FG at bosses will fuck up your dps completely so FW won't even help. Can it even survive Rain actually?
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since when rain is a issue my god lol

fireball cd is much lower

what are you afraid? random elememe following you, ready to rain + fc to steal your dpk farming?
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>>169827039
FW will fore sure have used all its hits by the time rain comes out.

>>169827326
>Not being pyro 3 ele 3
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>>169827560
Rain isn't an argument anyway and it takes FW takes 15s to tick through.

For long fights (solo/duo farming of high HP mobs, guild raids, ET) FG is better for obvious reasons.
For dungeon clearing where you have many low HP mobs, FG is still better because lower cooldown.
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>>169827786

Again, why you think that a FW pyro has lv 0 FG?
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>>169827975
Because a max FW pyro will have 4 in FG.
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>>169827786
>FW takes 15s to tick through.
Not when it's hitting things.
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>>169828213

And how many hits Lv 4 FG does, anon
It last fucking 19 seconds already anon
how long you think a fight lasts, anon
How much damage Fg 4 + Fw 16 does vs fg 16 anon
What if we add pass into the math, anon
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>>169828749
>And how many hits Lv 4 FG does, anon
Only 25.
And ticks don't do 100 damage anymore when you are level 300+ with angi and most likely a transcended weapon.
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>you can sell cocoa powder and etc at the market but you can't do a market search for those items
lol
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>>169830321
The new hats were fucked up at first too and inv sort doesn't work for shit either IMC is just dumb.
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>>169831601
Actually, inv sort does work, but it uses KR names. Yeah, I know. IMC is really that dumb.
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>>169814303
>>169815524
still shit class
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The answer: A good 1 handed spear
The question: What is a _____
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>>169823490
shit is dead or moved out of it after maybe half of the hits, not worth maxing.
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>>169835171

21 zombies
3k damage each
2 attacks/second

THATS 1 BILLION DPS ANON
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>>169835275
Geras Spear? Brandish?
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>>169835657
just like all the epic skele archer posts before we got r8, right?

its still shit
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>>169835920

yeah necro has a debuff that gives damage based on the mobs matk

yeah necro 3 alone is a good class, unlike inq that facerolls the game even with npc weapon
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when do you guys think they'll release the rank reset again? I missed out on the 1st one unfortunately.
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>>169836149
>yeah necro 3 alone is a good class
have a classic smug
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>>169836305

I was being ironic.

necro 3 is comproved as a shit class with only one good skills and the rest is just bee afk shit

inq is a class that alone can do the r8 content, what you takes into the mix for it is just flavors, bokor c3 being one of the various options
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>>169835920
Skel archers actually will hit for like 4 or 5k if they're actually attacking and the target is decayed and/or flying. If there were actually holy enemies in the game or they were just not dark element, they'd be doing even more than that. I feel they should give them a poison attack attribute, but somehow it'd be fucked up. Like, it'd depend on your str or not be affected by your str at all.
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>>169836196
after r9 release so never
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>>169836685
IMC needs to neuter Agny and linker and then look at the wizard tree again to see what needs buffs, perfectly usable builds have players acting like they are complete shit because they aren't as gamebreaking as Pyrolink.
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>>169837150
Agny was a horrible idea to buff one class.
Just like Rhevisan are really stupid to counter some Elements while nothing exists vs other Elements.

Even Blizzard does that better.... they have 300% 400% 12000% Dmg buff items for all classes in shitty D3. At least kinda 'fair'.
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>>169837150
Linker is fine. It can make anything not shit.
Agny just needs to not have so much ele damage on it.

>look at the wizard tree again to see what needs buffs
Literally everything. Even pyro. They have like 0 ways to inflict burn, while cryo freezes with almost everything. Only an attribute and technically standing in the dots attacks cause burn and they have a whole attack that is based on things being on fire. They should just remake flare. Have it boost fire pillar and cause fireballs to make an explosion that sets things around it on fire and have the normal effect for things in flame ground or something.

>>169837708
>while nothing exists vs other Elements.
There are anti-cold items too that work the same way. There are no anti fire things because you can just cast rain or stormcalling or walk away. There are no other elements being used. Nothing is earth, barely anything is lightning, the only poison things will kill you in a heartbeat anyway, and does holy even have anything you'd be hit by?
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>>169837708
>12000% Dmg buff items
Wew,
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>>169838041

Linker is completely broken after they removed the 200% cap on aoe.

Even 200% was retarded already desu

Agny was also retarded because pyromancer was fine already, the only problem pyromancer had was fireball aoe ratio and competition from the broken quickcast.

they should go back to r7, nerf what was op and do r8 again knowing that the huge powercreep was a mistake
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>>169838269
>pyro was fine
>quick cast was broken
Mad swordcuck spotted
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>>169838041
>There are no other elements being used
Not now.
Does not make "gear vs 2 elements, while there are like a dozen soon" any better.

>>169838124
ye
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>>169837708
>Even Blizzard
But they did things good before anyway with D2 and the sockets and enchants. Blizzard is one of the few that does good items.

>>169838269
>Even 200% was retarded already desu
Why? Linkers have one primary skill, why shouldn't it do anything? There's like no fucking aoe in this game even now, why shouldn't it be able to make what little small scale aoe we have be good?

I don't think agny is retarded. There should be more items that increase one class. But then I think Runecaster's rune of ice is retarded for that reason. Maybe it should have been a rune, some sort of fire giant and ice giant instead of ice rune and giant rune.

Anyway, the point is if IMC would stop half assing items, Agni would be one choice among many. Putting a dark agny or some other good item there instead. Angy would be a particular choice for a particular build. They could also lock it to pyro 3. They can already lock other items by class.
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>>169838269
>pyro was fine
>a dps class that can't dps
lel
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>>169838756

>spreading single target damage 100% to everything was not good enough for a support class

anon, pls. the concept alone is broken as fuck because it sends the concept of single target = very high dps, aoe = moderate to oblivion and makes everything a pain to balance.

JP is broken beyond repair, the linker class should be a little bit more than this, physical link should get reworked and the other skills could get some buffs and etc, but JP as it is now is an abomination
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>>169838886
Lol r7 pyro was the same as elementalist now, perfectly workable class but "dude percent quick cast lmao all non ele wizards are just dumb cucks"

People are reverse-futureproofing by taking pyro+all utility classes, that's fucking retarded that people are using r4 as their main damage source while also enjoying higher tier class abilities.
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>>169838886

anyone who played geared pyro before agony can tell you they did solid dps

pyro problems were:

melee kicks ballz
fireball was not affected by aoe ratio gear
hellbreath was shit
fire pillar cooldown too long

but they were futureproof as fuck with billions of multihits. even without agny a stage 5 pyro is scary as fuck. ask any new strong pyromemer to do a saalus run or other shitty content without their agny against peasant classes and tell me if they're going to loss their #1 to anything not powercreep swordsmas
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>>169839332
>that's fucking retarded that people are using r4 as their main damage source while also enjoying higher tier class abilities
And what's the problem with that, exactly? If you can take utility from lower rank classes and damage from the higher ones, it's only fair you can do the inverse as well.
Pyro is the only rank 2 pure DPS class with zero utility, if the damage can't carry you through the game there's literally no reason to pick it ever, which means there's no reason for it to exist in the first place.
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>tfw honest player waiting for my 5 free tp to remove a boss card
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>>169839657
>pyro problems were:
and they still are. pyro in public random runs (or high WBs) still kinda sucks. swords and retardclerics still kicking balls and now there are tao
it always was a great solo class (or with smart premade party)
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>>169839216
>spreading single target damage 100% to everything was not good enough for a support class
No. Other supports can make you fucking invincible, teleport you, hold enemies and keep them from attacking forever, and even non supports can can put like 3 fucking +100% damage debuffs on enemies and hit them for insane damage.

Meanwhile it's a great crime that those 200 base attack tiny AoEs are ticking for 2k.
>single target = very high dps, aoe = moderate to oblivion
That's dumb and also it was, for mages, single target = small damage, aoe = shit damage.
Seriously, the only aoe people liked was frost cloud. Not flame ground, not hail, not prominence, not meteor.

Hell, without linker as it is now, agny isn't even that great.
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>>169839905

imc could have fixed those problems as I wanted, nerfed quickcast (or spitted it with swell head 25/25) -> rework elememe (nerf FC -> buff electrocute/hail/meteor and rework Freezing spehre into another elemental skill) and shit would roll fine.

because pyro can go pyro linker, pyro chrono, pyro thauma, pyro linker thauma, pyro cryo and get warlock/ff/sage later

elememe could go pyro 2, wiz 3, and get warlock/ff/linker later and etc

they had so many ways to fix pyro and maybe give some buffs (like 120% matk scalling to fireball isntead of the current 100) like they did to some other skills (ex: cata's skills)
I can give you 10 better options than

>let's lock then to a item that gives retarded amount of damage and makes any other build useless in terms of dps hehehe
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For Pyro Thauma Linker is better Red or Blue gems in a Mace?
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>>169839995

that's because you're thinking of it as a solo player

ever played linker + fletcher parties? magic arrow joint penalty was the fasted way to grind r7, even jp + r7 fencer was ultra fast

cryo 3 chrono 3 (because it was a superior build to et gimmicks and to combo with FC) was the most popular build but anyone who played with linker 2 chrono can tell you how broken it was too
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>>169840283

this is a luxury five hammer that you'll never transcend (unless you play monk LOL), go reds.
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>>169840283
Red so you can trade it around with all your alts.
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>>169840514
>that's because you're thinking of it as a solo player
Because you're a literal idiot if you think it should be nerfed so that it's less useful to to other players.

A problem with pyros being op with is it fine, but dumb, but saying it's op because other classes can do more damage? That's the whole fucking point of linker.
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>>169840770

that's what I'm saying anon. splitting super single target damage to everything VERY good already. And it also worked to double aoes. THIS. WAS. MORE. THAN. ENOUGH.

Now you can go and puft, 800% everything, be it a pyromemer or a dethrone
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>>169840984
And you'd rather whack 600k hp enemies all day with your shit damage single hit attacks? Not only that, you think making an already only okay single hit attack even weaker by dividing its damage is a good idea? So you go from scratching one thing to tickling 10?
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>>169841498
He's not saying it should divide the damage like physical link, he's saying linker's function should be to spread single target damage like snipe to multiple enemies so you can use those powerful attacks over a wider range. Right now Linker functions as a damage multiplier for everything because it copies the damage multiple times, which they tried to fix and then accidentally unfixed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrI4y-lB0

now you gonna tell me pyro needed 300% agny to be good and not a few adjustments
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>>169841814
>missions
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>>169841814
nice showing how weak pyro was
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>>169841814
Show me the solmiki video without agny
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>>169841732
>accidentally
Right
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>>169840674
I play monk inquisitor, don't bully
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>>169840984
>>169841498
>>169841732

yeah, the magic word here is spreading, not splitting.

Think of any game you played before and now add a support class that spreads any super single target damage to the whole mob.

using a classic ragnarok example since most people here played

>pulls 3-4 mobs at biolab 3
>link
>asura strike

>thor volcano
>link 5/6 kasas
>cart termination/ds/va/etc

broken as fuck

The only other game that I know that has a similar skill is Dota 2.

The hero Warlock has one skill called Fatal Bonds, it works by linking units together but it spreads only 15% of the damage. Fucking 15% and it already the thing that, if it catches your 2-3 heroes at the same time + a few units, you will RUN to avoid getting damage because one aoe skill that land in the target people will get amped A lot, it's the kind of shit that when chained well delivers a team wipe.

And it's only 15% anon. fucking 15%.
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>>169841814
Why is it that attacks like that barely hit props anymore?
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>>169841814
This pretty much proves the point that agni was needed
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>>169842062

show me a 2x better r7 clear that was not a fletcher 3
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>>169842292
>classic ragnarok

>biolab 3
>thor volcano
Uhmm... I don't remember those places from RO. Are you talking about something from after the game died? And didn't they add some linker to RO anyway later on?

The only games I can think of had good aoe attacks already so linker wouldn't be needed.
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>>169843009
w/e
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>>169842434
>If an r7 class doesn't kill the boss scaled for 5 people in one rotation it's useless

Jesus christ.
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Now have the best bossing build of rank 7 (ok, I prefer a2+scout over ranger 3 but the difference was minimal those days) doing the same mission as the pyro 3 I posted before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sna5WO7swtE
guy has good gear (better than the pyro), and is also lv 280
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>tosg unironically using missions as measuring sticks for balance
I thought I was in the forums for a moment.
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>>169842285
Better than Diev 3 Oracle Kabba Inquisitor Ez mode meme
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>>169844090

It was a good rank 7 dps measurement parameter.
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>>169843195
Yea, lets not compare with all other R7's at the time. Being good or bad will always be in a comparison with what is strong or weak, if you ignore that you can't even call something weak or strong in first place.

Just keep assuming that you're correct, maybe you will be.
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Hows Sword3>Barb>Pel>Shinobi? Don't really know what to go into for r8. Maybe I should drop peltasta for Fencer?
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>>169843009
It's weird how the last steam game I played had around the same or less amount of players yet the community is super positive and only have good things to say about the game
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>>169845321

But people already posted fletcher 3 dps and he does the mission in a similar time as the "totally weak we agny was needed" pyro 3.

Do we need agny for fletcher 3 too?
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>>169845723
>>169843331
>>169845321
You're a retard anon.

Fletchers don't level up at all because they lose critical %. As soon as they have Fletcher C3 unlocked they max out the only skill that matters with the 5 skill points saved and then start farming and dumping money into the attributes.

Any level 280 fletcher is pathetic damage.

They don't have consistent damage just OP burst. Fletcher is a weak fucking class once they have used their skill they literally sit there and hit Barrage and AFK.
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>>169846220

I miss those days
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>>169849039
UHMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>169849039

stop
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>>169845714
The people her harbor some dumb belief that if the game shuts down, they'll magically gain access to the code and someone will magically make the game into World of Tera 14 for them.
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queue for gvg nerds
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Stop GvGing and post.
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WAKE UP
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>>169852497
but I can't wake up...
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>>169852497
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>>169852497
no
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is 2600 mdef ok
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>>169856228
see >>169793910
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>>169856228
PvE? Yes.
PvP, you'll still die to mid-high transcended stuff.
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>most recent art is ugly boys
ffs, ded gam
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Best build for farming 315 orange mats (specifically for emengard shield)?

Tired of digging through archives
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teach me how to dodge inquisitor's birds

sometimes ice wall works, but sometimes don't

I'm using a high block chance shield already and leather armor (the yare strike) so it helps mitigate a bit, but a rich inq with block pen gloves + high level attributes can rape me like nothing
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>>169860357
Wiz1,Pyro2,Link2,Thaum and Enchanter/Sage/Pyro3
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>>169861385
Thanks
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>>169860517
>teach me how to counter something designed to counter me
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>>169860517
Campaign on the forums until they nerf it.
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Why is Highlander the only fun swordsman to play?
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>>169862798
>Campaign on the forums
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>>169863725

because it feels like playing a fightan with lots of combos
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>>169849558
>2017
>doing GvG
Go play a MOBA or any other MMO if you want PvP
ToS is PvE centered game
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>>169865148
>ToS is ERP centered game
fixed.
gonna need box for that
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>>169865148
>ToS
>PvE
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>>169863725
For the longest time, I've felt like Highlander was a piece of shit circle.

You can choose Sword2, or Peltasta; both of which offer way more utility. And later in the game, Highlander's damage just falls off.

If you take it in 3rd circle, you could take the superior Barbarian for the debuffs and then the fantastic 2nd circle for the skills and the 3rd circle for the attributes.

And then by the 4/5th circle, you just wouldn't look back that far.

But I see more and more Highlanders around. Is there a reason for this? I'm pretty certain I'm wrong about highlanders being bad but I can't, for the life of me, figure out why they're good.

I guess their skills syngerize well with Shinobi. They have a pierce debuff that, I suppose, is kind of useful. Their damage got buffed a little, I think, but so did Barb's and Peltasta's utility.
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>>169865148
>follow the damn quest all the way to lv330
>oh you picked off-meta build, guess no ET for you
>reroll another alt, level it up to 330 again
>dailies every single days
>do ET and pray you dont get random dc, stuck in loading screen or channel crash
>now you can do the same dailies with shiny solmiki equip !

Nice pve content, tostard
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>>169865585
retard
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>>169865148
>>169865585
Both are equally bad
Just enjoy the wild ride like this guy

>>169865334
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>>169865638
That applies to all MMOs, you do the end game content to get the best gear and that's pretty much it. It's like complaining you have nothing to use the sword you get from the bonus boss on, it's just for bragging rights pretty much and maybe messing around in PvP.
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>>169865630
Cartar stroke does good damage, multi hits, and is strike, so it can get boosted all the time by various buffs. That "pierce debuff" also blocks attacks and works on bosses. They can lower def to 0 and the attack that gets buffed by it also gets buffed by status effects of which they have a lot of.

They also have the only guaranteed bleed skill, a skill that takes away magic attack and defense while making the enemy susceptible to a couple other attacks, one of which is at doppel. Generally all their skills are combos that grow in damage. (although even more if you take 1 circle in barb for the cleave debuff).

They also have an attribute that increases critical attack by 50%, and you know how everyone is all about critical attack nowadays.

Pelt just offers cblocking and swashbuckle. I don't really like barb either. They just have some useful buffs and a lot of shitty attacks.
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>>169866216
If ET is like r7 content, what's r9 and r10 gonna be like? Will you need to grind solmiki just to finish the pve content?
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>>169866691
IMC will just put more ET like a lazy cunts they are
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>>169866691
IMC is so bad at gear design and general game design everything you need is Grynas+yellow gems+nuale cards+a purple 315 shield and unless they go full retard powercreep mode "you need to trascend everything now ehehehe" like i am worried they will do in rank 9 you would be fine
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>>169866216
Focusing on dailies is a fairly recent development and it's only in the post-WoW era that it became standard for the most profitable activities to be so pathetically easy that gear doesn't matter. This situation goes directly against the way MMO progression is supposed to work.
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>tfw levelling a second pyro from lv1 to lv 280 took less time than farming Grummers and i am still not done with them
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>>169866691
ET 41-60
and
ET 61-80

same 'mechanics' as all before recycled once again
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>>169867667
We will get Astral Tower 1-20F and 21-40F
Earth Tower is finished, Zemyna was found

Of course AT will have the same mechanics
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>>169867834
>same shit different name
very likely
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>>169867063
>post-WoW era
I was going to ask when that was because because WoW is so old, but then I realized WoW is so old that it's been like 13 years. People who started at the beginning in high school are around 30 and being designers for new MMOs. It's not even about wanting the WoW audience anymore, they are the WoW audience and will only be able to design games based on the only MMORPG they've ever known.
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>>169865630

>highlander dmg fall off

lol

>cartar stroke
>literal 600% attack
>doubled by knockdown
>doubled by lethargy

it's so easy to reach cap cartar stroke

>skyliner
>literal 400% each, very fast to spam (so basically you hurl 1200% attack on bleeding shit
>cross cut bleeding works in everything now also, ticks scales with phys attack (deeds + transcend)
>vertical slash same shit
>moulinet (literally 5 hits with 200% on crown'd target
>skull swing: remove ALL THE ENEMY DEFENSE

you can't be more futureproof than hl
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>>169867982
Maybe will be different, Astral Tower area is draw on world map but most likely it's just a series of map and in one of them there is the actual dungeon instance
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>>169868370
How many times has Highlander gone from being Upper-meta to shit so far? Three?

No other class has had a quality rollercoaster as strong as them.
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So rank9 is being teased tomorrow, right? 3/3 Korea time?
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>>169868589
Source your ass?
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>>169868589
No, Anon.
Rank9 was released in KTOS in December2016. Because the TOSG said it will.
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>>169867834
Do ET and Fantasy library have sufficient lore that's worth looking up videos of them?
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>>169868542

not sure, imo highlander was good from the moment they shortened all the hl's skill animation and made bleeding universal

you can blow your cooldowns SO fast now, it's ridiculous funny. plus, as I said, everything has a % mod attack, they ignore def and the slash skills can be boosted by cleave from barb c1, cartar by lethargy (every wizard, theoretically, can do this) and they ignore all armor!

plus transcedence! plus deeds of valor multiply transcended weapon attack and all the multihits and % does a blutfuckload of damage.

I think highlander now is stronger than the 0 cd skyliner era
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>>169869043
>>169868370
>remove ALL THE ENEMY DEFENSE
>they ignore def
>and they ignore all armor!
but nothing in the game has pdef
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>>169869040
ET? No, basically Zemyna is an hikikomori NEET and the Kupole you talk with there wants you take her out of her basement because she got tired of Zemyna bullshits
Library lore happened in the past since you travel back in time and is about Agallia Flurry setting up Hauberk for her plans but Giltine came and ruined the day for everyone, Agallia acts like a bitch and throw the blame on Hauberk who gets his soul splitted in the fragments you can find around the world
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>>169868634

it was from this:

http://www.barasa88888-animegame-blog96.com/2017/02/ktos-r9tw.html?m=1

but i guess it's fake.
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>>169870024
I get a sad ninja when opening page so can't tell, might be true who knows
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>>169870024
>>169870209
pretty sure that was proven to be fake some time ago
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What circles and stats should SR take? Friend wants to play and I don't know anything about them.

The ET build is probably fine.
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>>169870582

A2 for critical rate, multishot 10 and etc

the most common one is the Ranger 3 build (full dps, steady aim, barrage, spiral arrow). people go this in ET because of muh meltis + glass mole + steady aim to maximize dps

alternatives: Qs 3 (basically shit because when he hits sr 3, he will use limacon over running shot)

there's also ranger 1/wugushi, sapper and etc but it has some mounting troubles (not all skills can be used while mounted) so it's a bit annoying for some players. addons help to overcome this
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why do I keep thinking of getting back to this game

what do

halp
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So on one of my characters, a number above my FPS is displayed called "SERVER FPS"
I have no idea why that shows up and only on that one character.
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The shitty plagiarised loading screen is still there. Shake my head...
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>>169874060
which one is it?
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>>169874269
The pixel art one I think.

It's actually super badly made. "Pixels" have to have the same size when you do pixel art.
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>>169874901
It looks like the guy's fondling his nipples with his fingertips.
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>>169874901
There was talk of that one being plagiarized, but the 100% confirmed one was the bullshit "lol imma stalker teehee" one
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Why you can't stop it?
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Are you ready for Revelations F2P launch, /tosg/??
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>>169879674
i need a break from this shit so sure
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Are people interested in a private server or is everyone content with iTOS until they close it down sooner or later?
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>>169879906
Private servers won't solve anything.
The (main) issue is with the game itself, not with how it's managed.
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>>169879906
>>169880098

Just imagine administrating this Buggy Nightmare
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>>169879674
Why i should move to something promising to be even worse than ToS?
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>>169879906
it won't close anytime soon
They might be forced to merge servers all back into one and population will drop to 1k but that single server will live for a good 3-4 years
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>FUTUREPROOF IS RECRUITING

Discord lied, I'm actually dead. Message Cats in game for an invite. Taking all comers, even you euros and lower levels. Futureproof is a place for everyone from TOSG.
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>>169880412
>worse than ToS
wake up
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>>169881013
He's right though.
>>
>>169881013
I happened to get into the beta and yes, ToS is a lot better
>>
>>169881073
>>169881193
did you both forget about tos lauch?
>>
>>169881482
No, but Revelator is still worse.
>>
>>169881482
revelation is blatantly p2w
>>
>>169881482
Shitty launch are common
Revelation has other issues like crafting behind paywall
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>>169881721
>calling others p2w when we have transcend system here
>>
pls don't talk about other mmos in tosg.
tos is alive and well and it will be even better soon ;_;
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>>169879674
> Revelations
Are talking about some ugly chinese monstrosity that was released in Russia earlier?

I've yet to see a game shittier than this horrible abomination. Fuck it, seriously.
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>>169881846
revelation is even worse, you can literally buy crafting mats you need for endgame gear from cash shop.
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>>169881972
Pretty much like tos:
buy TP
buy premium stuff
sell premium stuff for silver
buy orange mats / shards / recipes for silver
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>>169881972
>you can
Wrong, you need
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>>169881846
>implying you can buy blessed shards from the tp shop
RTM is not p2w
>>
>>169882103
But you can, autismo: >>169882073
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>>169882073
you aren't getting it
The cash shop has the mat and you need to buy it for crafting
Getting it outside the cash shop makes getting Battle Bracelet piss easy and Practornium cube fair in comparison
And thats even nothing compared to P2W wings
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>>169882152
No you can't buy shit directly, retard.
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>>169882073
you forgot the last two
>wake up from delusional dreams and uninstall it
>start bitching on svg about game being dead
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>>169882221
indirectly is literally, unironically the same as directly.
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>>169882386
They are LITERALLY the opposite
>>
>>169882452
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Just realised the twin tails hairstyle doesn't have a sprinting animation.
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>>169883000
>>
>>169882073
>>169882386
>actually defending the russian and chinese jews
tos is shit but revelation is even worse.
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>>169882198
>you need to buy it for crafting
Or you can farm like normal person, or buy from whale

>>169882198
it's not even rare mats where you need to kill 600 hp sponge mob for one drop or run endgame dungeon for months

This is the content of Russian server shop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKlPNgh5Fk

>>169883552
Both are shit, but atleast one of them run butter smooth on my pc instead of 2fps hoglan
>>
>>169883901
bye then
>>
>>169884574
Jokes on you, i quit playing any mmo months ago. I'm here to doompost and laught at people who still play this game
>>
When is my crush ever gonna login?
>>
>>169883901
>but atleast one of them run butter smooth on my pc instead of 2fps hoglan

Read: It runs at 22FPS but I can't see the counter so it looks okay.
>>
>>169885301
that's 20 fps more than tos
>>
>crash in the middle of a dungeon boss fight

Is it the shit programming?
>>
>>169885879
Was it a druid?
>>
When are they gonna fix rodeliots? Do they look right in jp and kr?
>>
>>169888449
Are they untextured or something? They look strage on tosbase but some mobs that have that look fine in the actual game.
>>
>>169891146
Their whole horse and hammer are invisible. They're just floating half torsos.
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tfw no popolion doll
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I really wish they'd change the title screen back to the plain one or make a new one, the new one with the goddesses is so awkward.

Rank 9 when?
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so today i was leveling a new char at tenet church while a thaumaturge was grind BB, when suddenly
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>>169892879
You have to go back
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>>169892879
>2017
>archer
>>
It's not even sunday and the game is already killing itself again
>>
>>169893806
Pull out the plug already.
>>
>>169884881
>not playing other games with your ToS crush since ToS is clearly dying
You fucked up son
>>
>>169894575
>Having a ToS crush to begin with

What a faggot.
>>
>>169894684
What else is the game good for fatty?
>>
>>169894908
Not playing it and enjoying the music.
>>
>>169895014
This game has like 6 good tracks MAX
Everything else is pretty weak
>>
>>169895191
Most of the R8 maps tracks are good. And some of the instance dungeons tracks as well. Personally, I love the "Amaranto" song.
>>
>>169895458
what's the song that plays in siuliai mission? i love it.
>>
>>169895594
I don't remember to be hones. It has been a while since I last played.
>>
Post your ideas and changes to make ToS a better game, /tosg/!
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>>169896280
>make ToS a better game
literally close the game and start developing everything from scratch again
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>>169896280
Bring kToS patches faster and faster
There shouldnt be such an abnormal huge delay
I'm sick and tired of being treated like some subhuman by subhuman koreans
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>>169896280
just do everything people at the forum ask for
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>>169896280
Drop fixed base damage format for all skills entirely, instead skills all have % multipliers of your character's atk. You know, like in Ragnarok. Not because "it's RO", but simply because it's good game design.

Then transcendence needs to go away. Entirely. It's nothing but trick to force people to log in every single day and do mindless chores that aren't fun. Nobody but whales actually have a real shot at having high levels of transcendence, and whales in this game equals RMT.

Every single circle in the game needs 2~3 more skills. There just aren't enough skills in the game to support a healthy variety. Look at classes like Linker and Cata, you can get almost everything within the class, regardless which circle you go.

Finally, all 1-button solutions in the game need to go away. Things like Prophecy and Missile Hole that have no drawbacks and pretty much 100% uptme, that completely fuck up other classes. Then you have bullshit such as 99% uptime Cloaking with only one circle invested into Scout, and Linker being so good it's pretty much compulsory for every build.

After all those are tackled maybe the game can be salvaged. They'd still need to fix the awful framerate, the ridiculous netcode and desyncing, and improve massively on features for the game. Oh, client security needs to be improved too, everything in the game is way too exploitable.

IMC have clearly stated that they have no intention of going back on several of those issues, so there's no hope. Enjoy your dead game.

Come play my RO server.
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>>169896473
I can get behind that idea, seeing how the game is such a mess, but I'm looking for something not so drastic. More like fixes to the classes and skills, to the systems, how the damage/defense and exp is calculated. Things like that.

>>169896498
Gooks gonna gook. I agree that we shouldn't have such a huge delay of patches and content with kToS.

>>169896707
>Implying forums
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>169897087
>Percentage scaling for skills
Agreed

>Transcendence needs a big fuck you
THIS. SO MUCH THIS.

>More skills per circle for every class
Hmm, we could see what could these skills be and do, but I can agree with you on that, man.

>1-button immunities needs to go away
Maybe not to be scrapped entirely, more like toned down. By a lot.

>Net-code, and framerate issues
Yeah, this need to be tackled ASAP.

Thanks for your feedback, anon.
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>>169896280
Things I'd like to say to IMC fucktards:

Rework everything from scratch. The game itself feels clunky and doesn't provide fluid combat experience etc. Lots of skills just feel like shit when you're using them.

Re-balance everything in a way that would allow high-level classes to enhance low-level ones. Make new damage formulas, replace totally useless skills etc.

Add more loot. The very idea of not getting anything besides FUCKING CUBES and reagents makes me sick. Nobody wants to play Tree of Talts.

Get your shit together and do something about your horrible world map. It feels like this atrocity was designed by some drooling fuckwit.

40 FPS with GTX 1080 in Fedimian. Fix this shit.

Give us back a convenient way to purchase costumes.
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