/fhg/ - For Honor General

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First for ties

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in order to combat this blade's looks in popularity I shall use the edge blade

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I like femraider

>>169560308
that's valk though

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For Conqueror in the guide, it sayd "Heavybash", is this referring to a dash forward gb for a bash? So dashbash + heavy + dashbash + heavy?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1honJ-Q34RgixdUdjufWHR9h5ivr2L741iksfipsvDyA/edit#heading=h.ls5fcspvpear

Where's the discord?

>>169560308
This picture is so shit, I don't know why its posted in every thread

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7th for muscle worship

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I'M FINALlY FREE FROM THIS RNG HELL

>>169560414
Your replies are always so shit, I don't know why you post in every thread.

>>169560429
are all those parts unique?

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>>169560397
https://discord.gg/m9GAu3Z

discord is sleeping right now, shh

>>169560419
My man.

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>start match
>enemy runs away from you to a place where he prefers to fight because no ledges/there is ledges
>calls you a pussy for not following him to where he wants to fight you
I just want to fight where we spawned man, I dont wanna chase anyone.

>>169560527
>the picture of the discord

It's not cancer is it?

>>169560476
YES 4(FOUR) UNIQUE HANDELS AND 10 PREMIUM CHEST LATER I GET THE FINAL PIECE FROM A FUCKING MATCH END LOOT.

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Okay knightbros I need some serious help bringing the LAW to people.

1. Why can't I hit anything? I shoved a Nobushi into a guardbreak throw into a wall and still couldn't get a heavy off in time.

2. How do I do the fancy parry shit? I parry but then all I get is a normal heavy (which is easily blocked).

3. I just got GB then heavied, then GB then heavied until I died by a Valkyrie. I couldn't do anything to stop it, not counter, not block, not attack nothing. Was it lag or is LB seriously that slow at recovering?

4. Why do I run out of stamina if someone even looks at me funny?

5. What should I actually be doing? Lights do fuck all damage and everything else is too telegraphed.

>>169560414
So that it can be deleted every thread.

>>169560673
I hate this in brawl/elimination

>>169560704
stats?

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>>169560419
This is something I can get behind

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Post your stats

>>169560706
1. You gotta be quick on getting attacks in. Off a wall if you are fast enough you can get a top heavy, otherwise just go for a GB+side heavy, no throw
2.Parry, then GB, then side heavy. This is the basic parry combo, and the majority of your damage
3. Tech the guard break. Practice teching as much as you can until you get it down
4. He has shit for stamina, be conservative with attacks
5. Parry, and pray your opponent fucks up

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what do I need to know if I wanna pick up Valk?

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>>169560182

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1honJ-Q34RgixdUdjufWHR9h5ivr2L741iksfipsvDyA/edit#

WIP Conqueror guide.

This is quite possibly the worst story mode ever created for a game

>>169560938
You have obviously never played SFV.

>>169560938
>he hasn't played Rogue Warrior

Smfh

https://youtu.be/OVoyGUcXepc

>>169560419
I also like muscle worship on men

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> Just need ONE fucking revive for an order and then I can drop Skirmish forever.
> Don't manage to get one in an entire game.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SKIRMISH IS SO FUCKING BAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

reposting because I want someone to call me a faggot or point out that im blind

I'm pretty triggered that valkyrie has no way to display an emblem properly

no chest, no back, no shield, no faceguard option, literally just a tiny part on the shoulder what the fuck ubisoft

>>169561020

i did

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>>169560847

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>>169560287

fedorah falchion?
cringe cleaver?

Does lawbringer's top heavy do less damage than side heavy?

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I swear to god at high level, exhaustion is there to just extend the match even longer because its basically just go full defensive mode


there should be defense penelities like receiving more chip damage while exhausted and parries are locked out

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>>169560396

Heavybash is the shield bash that chains off of a heavy attack. Inputs are heavy attack-->GB, resulting in heavy-->heavybash.

The reason I refer to dodgebash, heavybash, and fullblockbash separately is because they all seem to have slightly different properties. Dodgebash is fastest, heavybash is slower, and fullblockbash is slowest; dodgebash has the shortest reach and fullblockbash has the longest; fullblockbash is notable for guarding top throughout its entire animation.

You can certainly do a heavy attack after a dodgebash, but you would have to fully recover from the heavy attack before doing another dodgebash, wouldn't you? It in no way chains quickly, like how heavy-heavybash-heavy-etc. does.

>>169561185

>he doesn't know about hail-mary cheese slowmotion attacks and cheese slowmotion GBs that fuck with player expectations of tech timing

>>169560706

1. Your heavies are so slow they can be blocked even when down.
Your main combo is light, heavy, top heavy
2 top heavy immidiately after the parry
3 counter gb by gb as they touch you, theres a shield indicator on you when gbd, when it flashes white gb

4 lawbreaker runs out of stamina very quickly

5. Dodge shove, into long arm into light heavy heavy combo.
Its the only combo you can pull off. Yes lawbringer is somehow this shit

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>>169561136
just look at it, its so EDGY

it goes well with all the blossom petals effect

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>>169561092
>>169560847

>>169561185

you mean like GB = knockdown -> full heavy combo????

>>169561185
Exhaustion definatley needs to be more punishing
Maybe make it so you can't tech guard breaks when exhausted

>>169560730
Head max attack max stam reduc, might swap for max attack max defense

Handle max revenge by defense and revenge defense

Pommel max revenge attack max throw distance

And by max I mean thats the stat affinity it has, haven't upraded them yet since I've been spending all my steel on bling.

I have all 3 shugoki heroic armor sets.

>>169561347
>gb
>not getting teched every time

lol

>>169561362
nah thats a bit too much

I'd probably just add chip damage to it regardless if it was teched or not

>>169561185

Or you can't dash when exhausted

>>169561362
>>Maybe make it so you can't tech guard breaks when exhausted

how about we don't make Lawbringer go from trash tier to a literal god

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>>169561185
>Exhaust Assassin
>They can still dance around you at will with massive dashes

>>169561429
>>gb
>>not getting teched every time

Right but the general idea is that your mixups should be more effective when they are exhausted because they HAVE to worry about the GB...

>>169561459
Shhhhh goddamnit don't point out my plan

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let's see how many of you aren't one hero shitters.

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>>169560419

Anyone else using DS4Windows?

My controller keeps getting disconnected every so often, at least, was last night, about once per half hour it'd just reset as if I'd unplugged it and plugged it back in real quicklike.

Now it's doing it every 10 seconds, so I can't fucking play at all.

Fuck, I only started to use this shit because my 360 controller's old and has buttons sticking.

Aaaannnd now that I've disconnected it for real, I can't get anything when I plug it back in through USB. Bluetooth's not an option because I never set up that part of my motherboard when I did the build figuring I'd never have reason to use it.

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>>169560536
As a fighting game fag its pretty annoying. Almost no one does 1v1 because if they are shit they just ragequit. This leads to everyone doing 2v2 but they just fucking 1v1 each other for a chance at their teammate carrying them. Even all the "good" streamers only do 2v2 but treat it as a 1v1. I wish this game forced faggots to learn the struggles of dealing with the possibility of them being bad and needing to improve.

>>169561493
Being able to dash while exhausted was a mistake.

>Raider main
>Starting to play opponents who can cancel their parries and CGB consistently
>They stop going for unsafe dodge attacks vs my feints
>Impossible to do damage unless they make a mistake
How do they fix this? It's not fun to play a game of who will get impatient and try something risky.

Who should I grind to Rep 3 next, after Kensei?

>>169561743
Welcome to high level play, enjoy your stay.

>>169561720

Being able to attack while exhausted was a mistake.

I honestly feel bad for the Samurai General boss at the end of the Viking campaign. He's clearly made some effort to study Viking language, as when you fight, he says "You are a Raider! Legendary!"
It's the only thing he knows how to say, clearly, but it's his best attempt to communicate. He hopes that the Raider will talk in their own language too. But instead the Raider just grunts and gasps and swings their axe. So he tries again.
"You are a Raider! Legendary!"
"Y-You are a Raider! Legendary!"
But he's only met with grunting and yelling and axe swinging.
You can see it in his eyes when you finally beat him. He's thrown against the railing of the bridge, and makes one last, desperate attempt.
"You are-"
And then the Raider cleaves him off the bridge with his axe. Rest In Peace, Samurai General dude. You tried your best.

what the fuck do i do against PK as raider

>>169561603
you don't need to use DS4 for For Honor

>>169560697
there's the occasional retard, but it's pretty chill otherwise. there's a containment channel for shitposting which keeps cancer to a minimum

>>169561916
just block ;)

>>169561720
Running out of stamina in general is not punished enough in this game. You still have all your base defensive options, the only real negative about running out of stamina is slower attack swings.

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>>169561827

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>>169561534
Are you proud of me?

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>>169561916
Stand there and accept your fate.

>>169561916
Wait for Raider to be buffed.

>>169561916
die

>>169560697
Every discord in every general ever has been cancer, they'll tell you otherwise but it is.

>>169561418
nice, all i have is the pommel right now and i've opened a million crates

>>169561603
>he still uses ds4windows

Steam does it out of the box retard

>>169561708

I do 2v2 because I can't stand the forced close ledge stages in 1v1. And I get more bang for my buck with 2 opponents if my ally is bad.

I feel like the slow patching process is really going to kill this game.

>>169562107
>implying I use Steam

>>169562018
>tfw I always fuck up the timing and can only do one stab

God fucking damn it

>>169561764
Warden or Nobushi. imo all 3 of these classes are the most fun in the game. Im P3 with all 3 of them.

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>when his back is turned and he's exhausted

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>>169560182
SO....

STEAM OR UPLAY?!?

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>>169561534

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>>169560706
There is nothing you can do.

Playing law has killed my want to play the game because he taught me that the balance in this game is so broken that someone as bad as him could be allowed to play.

To beat law literally all you have to do is be able to counter GB and feint heavy and heavy the other direction because his feints take longer than it takes for someone to swing in another direction after their feint.

>>169562082
>gently breeds u from behind*

>>169562185
Not like it matters until they fix it. The second two stabs don't do anything.

>>169562314
I MUST DEFEAT YOU

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>>169561534
I spend most of my free time playing For Honor this past week and still only have 3 Rep so far
I dont know how people have so much Rep

>>169562335
Or you can feint heavy then grab him because other people can start swing, feint, then GB law in his start up frames of his parry attempt before he can feint.

BECAUSE FUCKING REASONS

>>169562335
What the hell is "NEW TECH"?

>>169561309
thing is even when you grab someone the most you can do is throw them away, since your swings will come out too slow to possibly hit.

and it also delays your exhaustion recovery massively.

the more i play orochi the less fun i have with him

>>169562295
Uplay of course, its way more superior to steam

>>169562687
>>169545650

It's basically useless because they can just side step your shove and because it takes fucking perfect timing every time to do it.

>>169562658
Kinda feel it's reasons like this that ledges and other hazards were installed. While I play LB I make sure to keep track of all the walls to slam people into and the cliffs/lava rivers/geysers I can potentially throw them into for easy damage or kills. It doesn't fix the LB's major problem, but it does help out.

>>169562756

Oh, yeah, but people don't expect to get grabbed and thrown into a hazard/off a ledge by an exhausted player very often at all.

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Tozen on realistic is driving me fucking insane.

Raider is pretty fun.

>>169562942
its amazing how much Mary sue traits they gave to the raider compared to the other protags

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>>169560706
1. You don't confirm anything off a shove. A throw into a wall should confirm a top heavy. However debuff resist helmets reduce hitstun and might be fucking that up if you're playing in modes that use gearstats.

2: The fancy shit only works if you parry a LIGHT attack. They recover from parries of their fast attacks quick enough to block/parry you back (note that the debuff helmets might not even let you confirm your fancy stuff on light parries. The debuff helmets are some broken shit that needs to be patched out)

3: Side heavies from GB are confirmed for most classes. The subsequent GB should be counterable by you.

4: You have no tools to initiate whatsoever. At best you can feint an attack to try to bait your opponent into doing something that you can parry. Your top light is fast enough to beat out some actions and interrupt people. If you're diving into a teamfight, you can surprise people with your pike charge. If you pike them into a wall you can get at top heavy off. Beyond that literally everything is parry>punish. Generally it's parry>GB>side heavy. If you parry a light, you can get a heavy riposte or pike charge off. Shoves off of blocks are near instant, but don't confirm into anything (but can be useful for ledging people).

Characters with long range weapons (Nobushi mostly) are generally out of range of a GB after you parry them. The most reliable way to damage them are with your ripostes. A lot of them like to spam lights, so a parry of one of their lights gets you a heavy riposte. A light riposte moves you up into their face.

A lot of players are shit and can't counter GB's. You can club those seals by spamming GB>side heavy>shove repeatedly. This won't even work against level 2 bots, but boy will it club seals like nobody's business.

Oh yeah, in teamfights, you can generally just shut down one player for your team to kill by spamming long arm of the law at them.

how do I deal with Fatty as Conq?

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>>169561534
After i hit rep 3 with warden im either going to try to learn conqueror or rep 3 kensei/nobushi. Havn't really decided yet.

>>169562916
Yeah it's really funny when it does happen, or get an execution from an exhausted heavy. I even laugh when it happens to me, it's great.

>>169562996
Lmao dude did you miss the entire fucking samurai campaign that amounted solely to 'WHOA LOOK HOW STRONG OROCHI IS'

can you tech grab when you spinning your heavy as conqueror?

>>169560182
What can I do to earn this great game?

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So... I love Berzerker, but honestly, if you're playing a good player what the fuck can you even do?

Feinting into GB's is the only bit of real tech you can do, and no-one ever really gives you an opportunity to deflect. I'm almost Rep 3 but playing against good players can be so frustrating at times.

Maybe I should just max block damage. Someone help.

My mechanics are decent i'm just tired of having to GB to do any real damage.

>>169563063
Never charge flail.

>>169563152
This is what you do
Feint into GB

BECAUSE THERE IS FUCK ALL PEOPLE CAN DO ABOUT IT

>>169563216
I mean, it can definitely be teched, but not many people react fast enough.

WHY CAN'T MY QT FEMZERKER DO COOL THINGS

>>169563216
Can't you just tech out of it? Doesn't seem like much, really

Also, how does the game factor your Win/Loss ratio? Does it only count matched vs. players or both players and bots?

What's the best way to go about finding an afk lobby?

>>169563317
>>169563339
>can be teched

No. If you feint heavy into GB and they heavy trying to parry it, they can not CBG.

OR AT LEAST LAWBRINGER CAN'T

>>169562996
Did you miss the entire Samurai campaign?

>WHOOAAAA THIS OROCHI IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN HISTORY AND COULD HAVE SINGLE-HANDEDLY STOPPED THE VIKING ATTACK BY HIMSELF AND IS THE GREATEST SWORDSMAN IN THE WORLD AND IS SUPER STRONG AND CAN BEAT ANYONE AND IS HALF DEMON BECAUSE IM HALF DEMON TOO

Samurai campaign was fucking insufferable.

>>169563339
it counts vs bots and everything

>>169563339
the one in the ubisoft website is player recordings only

post mains

>>169563441
not true

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Would anyone be interested in a /FHG/ highlights video using clips from these threads?

>>169563408
That kinda skews the numbers a bit. I imagine anyone who mainly plays against bots will be in for a rude surprise when he decides to go up against people.

>>169563389
>>169563085
that was just apollyon being salty she lost to a roach

What do I do to my controller to make my character run around in a circle, or any other way to not get kicked for inactivity?

>>169562942
YOU ARE A RAIDER

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>>169563468

>>169563526
Play the game.

>>169563526
there are these neat things called rubber bands

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>>169563389
That was a single line at the start of the campaign.
How do you even manage to be so assblasted?

>>169562426
Dominion gets me one level every 2-3 games. If I no life it I can get a rep in two days.

>>169562426
wow your kensei looks cool

Could anyone please post that one colored shredder edit the nice drawfag did a couple days ago?

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>>169563468
forgot pic

Can someone explain to me why Orochis make up ~90% of the playerbase?

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>still hunting for red kensei mask

>>169563768
Because people want to recreate their Japanese Animes.

Anyone have any suggestions for fun (I don't care how good/viable they are, just fun) characters to play for a Secondary? Finally got my Nobushi to P3 so I figure it's time to actually learn how to play another character.

I kind of like Shugoki but would feel bad for having both my characters be Samurai when I'm on the Knights faction. Any Conqueror, Raider, or Berserker mains around that could sell me on their class?

I really wish the samurai campaign hadn't just about been 100% roachie, lady daimyo level was like the best one.

>>169563768
because its the top tier class that isnt Warlock or PK

>>169563904
>orochi even close to warlord pk or warden

>>169563063

First, introduce him to dodgebash-->light, preferably as a punish to a swing of his. Once he gets scared of it and starts trying to preemptively dodge right when he sees you dodge, dodge, return to neutral, then GB-->(wallstun-->)heavy him. Mix these up until he fucking dies.

Otherwise, be the slower character. Refuse to go fishing, he absolutely will punish you with his hyperarmor since all your attacks take too long to land two consecutive hits other than dodgebash. It's trivial to dodge or parry every move in his kit, and dodgebash is fast enough to seriously pressure him in any case.

>>169563152
I just played vs a rep 5, the only free hits she got on me were:
Feint into Light which caught me trying to parry. Even if I cancel my parry it was too slow to block the light from another direction (as Raider).

>>169563892
The roles should have been switched desu. You should have played as the Daimyo kensei with a mission as your assassin Orochi.

Why make Roaches the poster child of the Samurai?

>>169563904

>Warlock

Get out of here THEWyvernlung 299

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>Conqueror and Berserker:

>Currently if your opponent blocks a light attack from these two characters, they can combo into a free Guard Break. You will no longer be able to get a free guardbreak following a blocked light attack.

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>>169563768
Because Samurai are pretty damn iconic fighters of days of yore and who wouldn't want to try to play one just once. That's the premise for this whole game in a way. We get to play badass knights/vikings/samurai as we believed them to be.

>>169563768
because of the weebs aren't good enough to play kensei, also "MUH glorious nippon Steel, folded over 1000 times!"

random advice for new lawbringers
something something most versatile weapon something something mystery of the order
>fighting peacekeeper or nobushi, dont wait for their attack to react. you have to know when/from where they're going to attack before they actually do it. accomplish this by letting them close the distance to you, and baiting with your overhead light
>for conquerer and warlord, do the same thing but apply your thinking to their shieldbash. sidestepping conquerer's shield bash is 50/50 but you can typically light attack him out of it if you anticipate him moving in to do it
>against other lawbringers, pray
>against warden, passivley block to the left at all times for his zone attack and condition yourself to block upwards at a moments notice. this is your only chance
>against kensei, tear ass because he is sadly the world's most parryable man
>against orochi, remember that your charging heavy is a weeb-seeking missle. when he runs, you can catch him.

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Can I see some of the heroic gear people have?
I want to see what characters have cosmetically.

>>169563768
Because it works.
I have to put a shitload of effort to win as the classes I usually play, then I just switch to Orochi/anyotherassassinr and almost never die and kill basically everyone.

Dodge+Attack is the easy way of winning when you're in the level where people still attack.

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>>169563803

>>169564034

It was frustrating only having 1 mission as kensei, the rest is orochi cocksucking. It should have been the Warden against apollyon.

>>169564034
Both other factions had the Vanguard character as the main characters, but Samurai went and fucked all that up.

Does anyone else feel that the orders are just kinda ass?

>>169562756
you get a free light off an exhausted grab

>>169563768
>Knight story mostly follows the Vanguard class
>Viking story mostly follows the Vanguard class
>Samurai story is 99% Orochi

What the fuck.

>>169564127

I want to stee Warden blades. Prwtty sire I saw one that was half serrated.

>>169564147
fuck man

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4v4 is so fucking unplayable. I'm just trying to get 3 executions but how do you get them when Everyone has maxed debuff res so parries do fuckall and maxed def so you do less than half a bar against a warlord with a side heavy. If that wasn't enough, only one in two matches will complete because of errors out the ass.

If the game isn't patched in the next two weeks, I'm giving up. This game has tremendous potential, but ubisoft will never, ever not ruin everything they touch.

>>169564034
People have mentioned that it definitely feels like kensei was more the samurai protagonist they had in mind for a while, then after orochi became the defacto weeb obsession they switched shit around so they could be the posterboy instead. I could believe it honestly.

>>169564265
It's supposed to be """"""""""""HARD""""""""""""

how long is single player? I don't care about story it just want to get steel

>>169564235
The orders just do not give enough Steel. Dailies should give 400 and the other orders should give 200 or at least scale to the effort needed. Killing 300 small dudes in Dominion shouldn't be worth the same amount of Steel as killing 50.

>>169564346
like 2 hours if you skip cutscenes

>>169563513
>greatest fighter ever

>locked up for 4 years and starved

>still kicks the next greatest samurais ass and kills apoolonoob

:thinking:

Remove I-frames from dodging, you should not be magically able to have a blade pass through you if they do a horizontal swing and you incorrectly go for a side step.

Neither should you become magically invulnerable after finding yourself in a corner without the ability to actually fucking move.

post meme emblems

>>169563887
Conq and warlord are both really good at switching between great defense and crushing offense on the fly. Shame weebs don't have a shield class.

>>169564303
How does Debuff resistance affect parries? I only thought it was for Bleed.

>>169564080
but kensei is the real samurai class with the armor and everything

>>169564303

>Not chilling and playing against bots

Are you entering tournaments? No? Then who the fuck cares how "gud" you are bruv.

>>169564235
The issue is how little steel you get compared to how much you need to unlock shit. Executions and emotes should be 1k steel at most. The game pretty much assumes you are only going to play one class if you want to do any sort of customization. As it stands if you did every daily order and played a lot it would take you a full month to customize a class you like fully.

>>169563947
I just ragequit against one Rep3 shoguki

there is nothing much I can do when he can tech grab and do that bash block thinging

trading heavy with him isnt really worth it and all I can really do against him was just poke him with light attack after block/parry until he oneshot the less of my health with Bane's back breaker grab

>>169563887
Shugoki is fun. Don't deny yourself the pleasure just because you don't want to be a weeb.

>>169564420
>muh realism
get lost, this isn't LARP
this is fighting game

>>169564079
Aw hell yes.

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>fighting someone normally on a bridge map
>its going fine
>im winning
>he gets down to critical health, runs to the bridge wanting an easy throw
>just demon charge towards him and knock him off
>quits game
the fatman is honestly so much fun

>>169562996
You're forgetting the "had the Orochi not been in prison, the Vikings would've never sacked the capital" angle.

>>169564420
sidesteps are way too good in this. It doesn't help that by pressing an attack they can't be grabbed out of it at frame 2-3.

>>169564543
Fuck off faggot, even soul calibur knew how to handle horizontal and vertical attacks.

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I realize none of you want to hear this and you're all going to flame or ignore this post but, sadly this game is already dying and appears to be on life support at this point.

Not even two weeks past release.

>>169564235
A little, the "main" orders feel amazingly arbitrary for what they ask you to do, and made worse if you have to do a particular game mode that isn't terribly popular. Also they offer way more exp than steel so doing it for ingame cash is not even remotely worthwhile.

>>169564420

At least on side dodges.

>>169564627

What did he mean by this?

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Do any of the later Berserker helmets give him better hair? The shaved sides looks so fucking queer.

>>169564627
Except you're getting flame because what you're posting is outright false.

How do you guys dealth with Orochi/PK with the reaction speed of a house fly and deflect/tech every fucking moves and never initiate attack?

feint doesnt even work either

>>169564574
>>169564398
just shut up apollyon you lost cause you sucked

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How do I fix my shitty SPQR emblem?

Thinking about just making it a flat color background, can't get the effect I want on the crossed stripes (would like to be able to put a smaller red cross inside so that it's just an outline).

Also I guess I need to finally play the story mode so I can get a burd that's looking the correct direction and that isn't that stupid raven thing.

>>169564627

It's doing better than Titanfall 2, and Titanfall 2 is nowhere near "life support".

The popular crowd that can't into fighting games will soon pass, and the hardcore crowd that loves this style of game will stick around until a better alternative presents itself.

>>169564463
It throws away everything you know about the game. All heavy parry into GB become techable. You can tech GB while you are dashing. Any sort of move you had that was unsafe becomes safe (ie warden zone attack that is normally able to be GB can be teched)

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>>169564602

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>playing a character that actually has to work for their kills
>fight nothing but PK and Warden

>>169564627
It's not dying at all. However if Ubisoft does not patch this shit soon it will die within the year.

Still no initial patch after they announced it two weeks ago, and have not given a date

Peacekeeper in general

Revenge builds utterly ruining 4v4 modes

Defensive play being far too powerful, there is literally no downside to running out of Stamina other than slower attack speed.

And just my persona gripe, way too many environmental kills in 1v1 duels.

>>169564627
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's on life support, but I fully believe the game is on fast track to dying if Ubi don't step up their game.
Ubi REALLY need to have more frequent updates or at the very least communicate their intentions more than once in a fucking month.

I'm not overly fussed, I got the game to help me kill time and its done that well.

Ranked mode when

>>169564719
But she got the war she wanted, so in her mind, she still won.

>>169564897
T. shitter

>>169564897
if warden and pk are so easy why dont you just play them instead

>win 10 ai brawls

fucking hell this is tedious. good thing the other player is doing the same thing, or else this would take ages

>>169564835
Losing the casuals probably isn't a good thing. A smaller playerbase isn't all that great for a multiplayer title and I don't want this to turn into Battleborn. That was DoA before it even had a chance.

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>>169564949
>Game has been out two weeks
>Literally two weeks
>"The updates need to be more frequent"

How do I get in contact with lewdkeeper, I must bully and beat.

>>169564980
I did for a while, I just felt like a cheesy peace of shit because of how easy it was to rape people with their bullshit so I switched off

>>169564627
Yeah, most people will be in denial about it though.
Thankfully, we already have new heros coming up and they will most likely rebreath life into the game for a few weeks.

>>169564839
Wow what the fuck, that sounds absolutely retarded.

>>169564627
Ehhhh. If they don't patch the glaring issues soon it will die. But it's doing all right at the moment.

>>169565024
Try Reddit.

>>169564034
I guess they didn't want your player character to be the leader of the faction.

>>169564507
I was just trying to finish that 3exec in 4v4 pvp order.

>>169564463
https://youtu.be/Msz4lvOTIfM

Also, now I know why bots can get out of parry GBs. I thought it was cheating but they have debuff res as well.

>>169565015

There's a critical mass that frankly isn't too hard to hit. You can consistently invade and get fights in Dark Souls 1 in certain hotspots even today across all platforms.

>>169564927
>Defensive play being far too powerful
This is the biggest problem with For Honor right now, and if Ubisoft wants this game to have any sort of future they need to fix this ASAP.

>>169564927
>PK is one of the few classes that beats defensive play
>complain about defensive play being far to powerful
I still have no clue what this community wants. I see this posted almost daily.

>>169565023
Communication ABOUT patches needs to be more frequent you braindead fucking frogposter.

They've said a single thing since the games release. That would be okay if this weren't a PvP focused ALWAYS ONLINE game.

>>169564839
Does it make it easier to tech in general, or just open a window for it where you couldn't at all before, like after a parry?
I could tech in the beta, but I can't do it for shit now, so it would be worth it if it made it easier overall like some people have said.
And I know they are fixing the untechable grabs if you are both grabbing thing.

>>169564558
woah dude that bird is cooking pasta thats crazy

>>169565160
PK "beats" defensive pay by being utterly broken

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>>169564627
Around release everyone was shitting on R6 Siege, saying the same shit and now 2 or so years later its more alive than ever

They just need to actually try and it will have a steady, active community who will stick with them through thick and thin

>>169565179
Tell that to the Siege community.

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>>169564719
>Apollyon lost
Silly fool. Don't you know? If you kill your enemies, they win.

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>>169565143
>>169564927
>defensive play too powerful
>meanwhile one of the defensively-oriented heroes can't defend at all and can't attack either

>>169565256
why does ubisoft make best girls all of a sudden

also femconq porn when

>Game mode without HUD
Would you play it?

>>169565023
>>169564949
You know why the patch is taking so long? consoles. Probably have to wait a week for patch to be accepted by sony/m$. I bet they could have fixed PK bug in a day if they wanted to on PC.

>>169565367
it would be 8 PKs

>>169565337
Lawbringer, right? ;_;

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>>169565353
I'd draw it but I like drawing goofy, sfw, and/or fun requests more.

>>169565367
yea peacekeeper would be even more fun to fight against

>>169565367
Nobushi and Valk suddenly imba.

>>169565372
They should just push patches to PC ASAP and leave console plebs in the dust, really.

It's not like crossplay is real in this game, it's just metagame bullshit that doesn't affect match-to-match gameplay.

>>169564536
He loses 1/3 of his health if he misses his grab. Get very comfy with dash and bash. I don't play conquerer personally so I can only speak from Shugoki pov, but once you get our hyper armor down you must punish.

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>>169565431
When LB is eventually buffed he's going to be a GOD for those who suffered with him.

>>169565456
Any more of these two?

>>169565110
I mean in the sense that suppose a new player DID appear in the game, who would he be thrown in with after he completed the campaign and thought he was good enough for real 1v1 matches? how many other people would be at his level to spar with? Would he just be lumped in with more competent people? Nothing kills interest in a thing like constant failure for most folks and if you just start and just get shit on constantly you aren't going to stay for very long.

Sidenote, how does one look at playerbase statistics for games via steam? I'd like to actually know how many people are (approximately) playing For Honor.

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What should I try next after getting Warden then Kensei to rep 2? Conq seems fun, but no feint game.

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Everyone needs to deploy to the corridor, it is at 50% right now. We can cut off 7 Jap provinces if we do.

>>169565554
PK before they nerf her into the ground

>>169565431
How'd you know? The fact that he's the only character in the game without a single thing going in his favor?

>>169565530
Not yet, been (and am) drawing Apollo and valk.

>>169565184
Not sure about making it harder. Honestly GB is fine the way it is imo. People are bitching now because 2 people are hiting GB at the same time and some classes are faster than others so they win. If they want to change it so both people deflect if they are both in the animation thats fine but at that point make it so GB isnt reactable or else it becomes completely useless. In most fighting games grabs are reads and cant be reacted to.

>>169565530
I really hope so, anon.

But from the looks of things according to that patch we still don't have, and the fact that not a fucking thing was done other than fixing his throw distance so that he can somewhat follow-up between December and now, I'm not holding my breath for any fixes to LB to come quickly.

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reminder ubishit is supposed to make and annoucement about annoucement (patch) "early this week"

btw if this patch isn't solid were going straight to the ded gaem storage

>constantly switches stance like a spastic retard
>"HEH THEY'LL NEVER EXPECT WHERE I ATTACK FROM! M-MIND GAMES!"
do these people know how stupid this shit is

>>169565023
Honestly, standards change nowadays

In the good ol days that really would be a crazy thing to say, but when you're paying 60 bucks for a game with microtransactions and upcoming DLC you'll need to buy, it really isn't insane to ask that things like zone attacks or shugoki's unparriable bug get fixed in this amount of time.

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New to the game
how do I parry
what is faint
Do all characters have three hit combo like conq ?
How do I counter sidestep attack
How do I counter PK

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>>169565576
Im already on it. deploying everything i have to keep the tunnel alive, alerting all my knightbros as well

>>169565758
Honestly I like to think the reason that we haven't heard shit is because between the initial patch announcement and now a lot of blatantly broken shit has been found (Zone attack indicators, SHugoki unparraybles). Might be they had to add more to the patch, and then add on the time it takes for a patch to be approved on consoles

>>169565184
The timing isn't any easier, but a lot more things are techable. Basically it makes it so people with gear literally cannot be punished for their mistakes in 4v4 modes unless you play assassins (they have faster guard breaks) because of course assassins bypass every fucking game mechanic in this game.

>>169560397
Theres a reddit discord if you want. fhg doesnt have a discord

>>169565870
I wish I could be as naively optimistic as you.

>>169565818
Dotatard here

i'm lucky to get a whopping 1 fucking hero every half year.

and half the content of said update, including the 1 fucking hero, is a $40 skin for said hero.

How to fix For Honor in three easy steps:

1. Speed up light attacks across ALL characters so everyone can break through this game's stale defensive meta.
2. Normalize everyone's guard stance switch speed to around 6 frames (0.1 sec) so everyone can deal with the faster lights. Maybe a little slower for heavies if you don't want it to be fully homogenous, but none of this "Lawbringer takes a full third of a second to switch guard stances" nonsense we currently have.
3. Change the GB tech window to be before the guard break connects, not after, and tighten it enough to ensure that GBs have to be teched predictively, not reactively.

There, the biggest issues with For Honor are gone. Then you can focus on the other, less-damaging jank shit in this game.

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How do you deal with PKs? Or Roaches for that matter.

They just wait for you to attack then do the side dodge+attack which is impossible to block. Their light combos come faster than the game lets you change block stances. And whenever you try to punish them they just double tap roll to disengage.

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>>169565530
>going to be a GOD
I realized that this is just false hope. No matter what lawbringer will not be on par with peacekeeper light spam or orochi/warden soft feint into zone attacks or berserker's feint into GB, or raider's soft feint headbonk thing, or shugoki's 1hko, or conq's shield bash heavy combo, or warlord (just fucking warlord), or nobushi's range, or kensei's high damage, or valkrie's blocking on nearly eveything she does.

Lawbringer needs a buff, but other classes need some fucking nerfs. Lawbringer is solid fucking proof that Ubisoft did not give one flying fuck about balance. Who the fuck thought he was viable enough to go live? Fucking morons that couldn't counter GB or parry the slowest attacks in existence that's who.

>>169565842
>Play the tutorial
>Hit the cancel button (B on XBOX controller) during a heavy attack windup to "feint" it
>No
>Don't swing wildly, be prepared to block it
>That's a tall order.

>>169565943
well that really sucks dude

MISERUM R1R1

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Guess the class

>>169565842
Welcome.
Do a heavy attack in the direction that the enemy's attack is coming from, right before it hits you. If you watch the red indicator, when it flashes is when you should initiate your heavy attack.
Feinting, is initiating a heavy attack, but pressing a certain button at the very beginning to cancel it. This can be used to trick your opponent in a variety of ways.
No.
Learn what characters do sidestep attacks, and be prepared for them. Once you know them, it's very easy to block, parry, or deflect them.
>counter PK
Leave the game

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>>169565576
>>169565849
KEEP THE TUNNEL ALIVE. WE HAVE 40 MINS LEFT

YOU

>just bought the game
>getting so fucking mad because i'm shit and my opponents seem to be darting around executing unbeatable combos
>playing conqueror
>some nip with a katana come sat me
>literally flies around the z axis slashing in the air
>seems to have inf stamina or his attacks don't cost shit
>swing at him with a ((((light)))) attack
>wind up takes 47 years
>nip just breezes past and slices me only twice
>end up almost dead
>put up full guard cause i'm fuckin scared
>nip does some retarded arm wave thing, looks like an animation glitch
>die
>it was a kunai
>through full block

god i hate this fucking game so much why did i buy this piece of shit

>>169566095
Orochi.

>>169566095
PK

>>169566121
WERE A SK8ER BOI

>>169563389
The Orochi is also the only PC to ever directly interact with the other campaign PCs (watches the Raider drift down a river, beats the Warden in a duel).

>>169563620
in not playing dominion, it isnt fun

>>169565995
Parry them. I know it doesn't sound like useful advice but outside of a few fuck ups, you should NEVER get hit by their side dash attacks.

>>169566095
What is a Peacekeeper, Alex?

Your mother likes to keep my piece firmly within her, Trebek.

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>>169566004
he's right...

>>169565995
I honestly just pick Warlord and armor through their attacks or FBS into heavy, even that has varying degrees of success

>>169566149
>kunai
play 2v2 or duels if you want to avoid stupid projectile shit

I want to follow the FGC advice and pick a top tier. What are my options?

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>>169566165
>>169566172
>>169566235
Shugoki

I've decided to join the cancer. How do I do the "pssh nothing personnel" reverse stab with the Orochi?

>>169566359
PK, Warlord, Warden, Conq

6:30pm in australia and i cant find a single duel

is the game dead already?

>>169566378
>two Gear 108

Boy I wonder what their speced for. Surely it can't be getting Revenge by getting hit two times by light attacks.

>>169565594
What is raider? Raider has it worse than law does.

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>>169566378
Stop playing Kensei PLEASE

>>169566359
Peacekeeper if you wanna be cancer and have free wins against 99% of players
Warden if you want to win against 90% of players
Pretty much everything else is viable except lawbringer.
Some classes do have disadvantages though, like shugoki and valkyrie, but they're still playable. Lawbringer is good in the right hands, but it is extremely difficult

>>169566447
it's 2:30am in the real world

i was having no problem finding duels though

>>169566508
Shut the fuck up. Play the law. You have no idea

>>169566359
In order

Warden
PK
Warlord
Orochi
Conqueror
Kensei (just barely, he is a legitimately strong character)

Can you get the campaign kensei grill's mask/helmet in game? It's adorable.

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>>169566004

>>169566359
in non-duel modes PK is the hands down best with zero fucking question

in duels PK is probably the best, closely followed by warlord depending on your opponent's willingness to abuse bugs like knockdown avoidance

>>169566378
>almost said it but changed my mind

>>169566590
He's right. Raider is easily worse than LB, don't be retarded

WHO CONQ HERE

>>169566591
please do not play kensei

>>169566590
t. a faggot that has never played raider

>>169566508
No he doesn't.

I play both classes. Raider is infinitely easier because you get a blind/stun any time you dodge something. Or a guardbreak. I only get to stun if I manage to land a top heavy, which the enemy is informed of via telegram around 6 weeks before I actually get to deploy it, even with feinting.

Just being able to pick your opponent up and carry them to a wall/cliff whenever you want so you can get that stun or ledge throw really helps, too. Again, I can only do that after a parry and if I do, 50% of my stamina is gone.

>>169566675
Why? Would you guys no longer be able to holler up and down that Kensei requires a 200+ IQ to play?

>>169566418
Deflect (dodge into an attack with parry timing) and attack.

>>169564687
I for one am opposed to the Cultural Appropriation of the Berserk Kangs! Dreadlocks are BLACK ONLY

>>169566861
it just looks dumb, and I want my character to look like a badass. its a shame because besides that the berserker is pretty fucking cool, but I cant take anyone with shaved-sides dreads seriously.

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>>169565256
R6 Siege only recovered because Ubisoft stopped trying to make it ESPORTS™.

Ubisoft held a fucking meme tournament with a bunch of hipsters and douchebags on a twitch stream for this shit. They're already running it into the ground. It can bounce back, but only if they tone back the esports trash. Also, the thing about defensive/passive play ruling the game really kills 80% of the fun. The other 20% is environmental kills. Intentionally giving your game clunky as fuck controls purely for the sake of """visceral""" close-combat experiences is poor form, and it shows in how Revenge is the gimmick that they threw into the mix in order to balance any 1v(1+X) scenario.

>>169566641
Raider has easymode feints and unblockable.
LB attacks are so slow feinting only means you're giving your opponent a free light on you, his unblockable is locked behind a full combo, which must include a regular slow ass heavy, he has no range despite wielding a polearm, and he has zero abusable guaranteed hit moves.
LB is the most honest, and thus, one of the weakest heroes in the game.

PK runs away at the start of a DM, comes back to you once they have the power ups and gets the last hit on you while you're busy with someone else. These people need to be fucking gassed

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>>169566641
Pasta from yesterday that was posted:
In the case of who is the worst, why does anyone even attempt to compare anything to lawbringer?
EVERY class has confirmation damage or combos that deal at LEAST a heavy hit worth of damage. Lawbringer has NOTHING besides a light attack off long arm.

Parry ? Only leads into light slap or GB. Everything else can be blocked/parried.
Parry > Top heavy unblockable? They can literally take 1 step to the side and it misses because it takes too long for it to land and they recover fast enough
Shove? Combos into literally nothing. You can tech the GB and parry any attack he throws out
Parry > Light slap? Does fuck all damage and they can just heal it off
GB > Heavy? Only way to confirm a heavy amount of damage and the combo ends there.
Shove > Literally ANYTHING can be countered

Not to mention his attacks are so slow they can be reactively parried extremely easily. His combo moves rely on throwing heavy attacks into the chain so basically it goes
>Light bonk> parried
And that's the end of the combo.
Or
>Shove > attempt heavy > parried/blocked
And that's the end of the combo.
Or
>Shove > attempt long arm > just dodged back or side step
And that's the end of that non-existant combo.

Please stop trying to say anyone is as bad as lawbringer. He has no combos that aren't fuck all slow because of heavy attacks being a major part of them, and has no confirmation damage off any of his unique moves.
>>169566693
>>169566641
I've played raider. I've played conq, I've played shugo, and I main lawbringer. You all have no fucking idea. Literally 1 move in existence proves that raider is far better. Soft feint into fast stunning head top.

Lawbringer has NOTHING like that. Right here >>169562335 you can see every single move that lawbringer can do. Everything leads to a dead end of your combo ending by them either blocking a light attack and combo ending right there, or getting parried because of how slow all of your attacks are.

>>169564687
Nothing wrong with being queer my famalan.

WHAT IF

You only gain one usage of Revenge per life

Or

One use within a certain span of time

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>>169566954

Agreed. Same applies to Orochis who hightail is the second you block two consecutive hits.

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>>169561362
>oh hey look this dude's exhausted
>gb
>knock down
>heavy combo
>gb
>knock down
>heavy combo
>dead

Yeah no thanks

>>169567023
Just get rid of Revenge gear period. A comeback mechanic doesn't need to be made so fucking broken by gear stats the someone literally becomes unkillable.

Revenge should not be in 1v1 duel, period.

>>169566971
>Parry ? Only leads into light slap or GB.
Most of the time the enemy will be too far away to land a GB, because his GB grab has zero range.

>>169567094
don't get exhausted lol

>>169561534
>he doesn't know you can play other heroes without having to recruit them

Shhhh nobody tell him

>>169566971

What kills me about the shove is that it was an afterthough added in.

Warlords headbutt, and nobushis kick can both knock down when in revenge, and can be used to wall confirm. Shove does neither of those things for come fucking reason. Why cant we get a daze? Warlord can drain all your stamina and daze you with the same input a lawbringer can shove you for a bit of stamina. Its horseshit.

>>169561362
they could just nerf exausted back dashes, that'd be enough

>>169566118
this is PC right?

When did russians get out of their region lock? I keep getting matched with these laggy shitters.

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Apparently the game is region locked in China and Russia.
Is there any way to avoid that and buy unlocked version?

Why can't both in a brawl team pick same hero? Like, why would it matter?

Only thing they need to remove is the backstepping when exhausted
Lot of assassins can teleport to other sure of the map if they ever get exhausted in a second

>>169567189
>not recruiting everyone

I wanted to customize everything and get gear figuring I'd be getting around to playing all heroes at some point anyway.

>>169561362
Make it so you can't block when exhausted and can only parry and get rid of the ability roll. Running out of Stamina in this game should be fucking punishing, it is not hard to manage Stamina.

>>169567342
>Running out of Stamina in this game should be fucking punishing, it is not hard to manage Stamina.

Try playing Lawbringer and say that again, faggot.

>>169566447
>>169566569
t.pc
srsly stop complaining

>>169566971
Oh hey, let me just toss this on top.

Raider can do a running unblockable grab that goes as far as law's charge, combos into an unblockable side heavy, and can't be blocked.

Lawbringer's charge has an indicator pop up right away, takes away half of his stamina by even attempting it, another half if it gets blocked, free GB if it is blocked, and it's super fucking simple to be parried because of the indicator is always on the same side.

Raider can go from neutral to an unblockable side heavy with 1 move.
Lawbringer needs a light and a heavy attack before the final third swing becomes a heavy unblockable.

Raider's axe has more range than lawbringer's poleaxe

Raider can go from GB to his running charge thing (that remember, combos into an unblockable heavy) or will just throw them off a cliff
Lawbringer needs to parry a light attack to get his charge off (and again, takes half of his stamina with it for only 15 damage)

More fucking proof that raider is completely superior to lawbringer. Please stop trying to say anyone is as bad as lawbringer.

>>169567282
stay in you containment area. You ruin the game for everyone else.

>>169565768
how easy was it to counter GB in beta?

>>169567342
This. Obviously Warlord should be incredibly overpowered and be able to instantly kill anyone.

>>169567402
That's a Lawbringer problem, not a game problem. I even agree with you, Lawbringer uses far too much Stamina for what little shit he gets off anything.

>>169567263
Anon, the map is shared across all platforms.

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HAHAHAHA

>>169567282
I'm pretty sure it's only purchase/language that's locked, so that burgers wouldn't be able to buy dirt cheap ruskie versions. The matchmaking is global, I think.

>>169566378
>superonahole

hey i just dueled you

you kicked my ass

>>169567450
they dont change the timing afaik, just some interaction when two people throw it at the same time

>>169567461
What the blue fuck are you even talking about.

>>169567342
>be lawbringer
>heavy attack
>get parried
>exhausted

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OH BOY. USING A GLITCH THAT REQUIRES PERFECT TIMING LAWBRINGER CAN DO THE SAME THING THAT WARLORD CAN WITH NO EFFORT FOR FUCK ALL DAMAGE

OH BOY

>>169567298
They should turn double dodge tap into self-knockdown when exhausted. So they'd have to actually defend instead of running away.

>>169567489
epic win you showed him!

>>169567579
so why dont you just play fucking warlord.

>>169567417
Literally only talking about offensive options when you're comparing an aggressive character to a counterattacker. Not saying you're wrong about Law being weaker, though

>>169567189
>he can't afford every hero
Shhhh nobody tell him

>>169567579
This is helpful how? The Valkyries hp barely moved. Can you combo a quick side heavy with it?

>>169567417
To be fair hit detection on the Raider's running grab is absolute horseshit in comparison to Shugoki's grab, Conq's shield bash or even LB's impale.

>>169567518
>The matchmaking is global
>I think
Any way to test this?

>>169567551
1 parry = 99% stamina loss

>>169567472
I mean, let's not be proposing bold changes that would fuck over meta/balance even further until we get things that are obviously broken fixed.

Likewise, that stance-switching bullshit that allows Assassins not to be knocked down if guardbroken (or parried) while exhausted needs to go. There's already little enough reason to play any class but orochi/peacekeeper without having known about that shit.

Though, I worry that making it impossible to block or dodge when exhausted would make gameplay even fucking slower up until that point. I agree that running out of stamina needs to have more of a punishment, but not in a way that just makes it so that no one goes for anything more than chip damage in fear that they'll run out of stamina.

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>tfw both my left and right click on my mouse breaks in the middle of a For Honor session

Woops

>>169566095
warden