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New Caliphate edition

>FAQs and General Info
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>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
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To update: Never pick anything other than Morghur as Beastmen.
Necromancer heroes are top pick right now while raise dead is still broken as fuck.

>Steam Groups
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>ACTUAL Total War News
If you've been living under a rock these past few months, Bretonnia has been released

We have battle map creating tools now. Only land battles and only for custom/custom mp games. Siege battles may be a possibility in the future but they're practically covering their ears and screeching at any mention of using modded maps to improve the campaign.
UPDATE: PEOPLE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT ANYWAY AND OUT OF DAMAGE CONTROL CA WILL BE ADDING OFFICIAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING CUSTOM MAPS TO THE CAMPAIGN ALONGSIDE THE BRETONNIA UPDATE

BRETONNIA IS 28TH OF FEBUARY:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60WQUG3XW3M [Embed] Total War: WARHAMMER - Bretonnia - In-Engine Cinematic Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxrhB4DvEE [Embed] Total War: WARHAMMER - Bretonnia - Campaign Let's Play

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>Recent
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>Recent
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Previous Thread: >>169439261
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There's literally nothing wrong with worshipping chaos
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I signed up on Total War access

now how do I get Brets one day early
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>>169485075
>shogun 2fots historical battle fall of osaka castle
>btfo enemy outside of the castle, capture armory and archery dojo
>blow up both gunpowder stores and btfo enemy that sallies out
>survive surprise cav outta fucking nowhere
>think I'll be fine to send my guys in through the gates that are on fire
>they all immediately die
>now all i have left is my arty, gen, 70 men of an imperial inf unit, a katana kachi and a kyoto police
>using kyoto police and katana kachi make it all the way to the final level of the castle
>charge into melee expecting last unit to be another unit of shogun inf/garrison inf
>its a fucking shogitai
>it banzais the piss out of my guys and kills them both
>now all I have left is my general, arty, and 70 imperial infantrymen on the other side of the map where the entrance to the castle is
>have under 2 minutes left
>don't have time to destroy final gate
>have to dismount my general and climb to the final level
>arty is trying to kill as many shogitai as it can, but they are fighting to the death bc they are on the final level of the castle
>general manages to kill all the shogitai that charge him after scaling the wall
>battle isn't over
>1 SHOGITAI MODEL LEFT IN THE CORNER OF THE FUCKING TOP LEVEL
>RUN OUT OF TIME

FUUUUCKKKK
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>>169485848
We did it, Rafiq-al-Bashara! We saved the city!
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>>169485848
>>169485832
>hating on fluff
Either play the tabletop game and appreciate its vast law or kys desu
>>169485958
Because Skaven is babbies first army, that has the potential to be a great army, but people would always misuse it and complained it was bad so GW had to fix it for them
Kind of like 40k Ultramarines
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>>169485928
The only consideration is which thread was created first. Better luck next time.
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>>169485928

Stop making extra threads idiot or mods will start deleting shit
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Source for the claim that female white skaven escape brood motherdom?
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>>169485902
That's a good question. I have to wonder if you get a code on access or something. I haven't seen a way to link my account.
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>>169485267
>Got Thorgard when I confederated with the Norse Dwarfs
>He has been fighting chaos shits his whole life
>Has killed so many chaos and norscan lords
>He wrecked the first chaos wave on his own(The whole wave went for his hold)

>tfw second wave might kill him

I guess his son have to continue the fight if that happens. Hopefully Kraka Drak can hold long enough so I can recruit a new army.
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>>169485928
Delete your shit, retard, before the mods get confused and purge both threads.
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>>169486094
maybe a Steam Beta key will be given?
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Okay so last I played was sometime after the Rattit WE update, and had Grim and Grave DLC and was playing a VC campaign.
Can you guys give me a quick rundown on what changes have been made since then and how easy it is to make these maps
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>>169486075
>>169486161
Calm your autism. I made that thread literally 2 seconds before this one got linked in the old thread.
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Age of Sigmar > Fanta Sea
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>>169486091
Warspawn
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>>169485902
>>169486094
>>169486227

there is a page on TWA where you can dl the free shit they give you like the wallpaper and ebook, according to grace codes will be distributed via that page allowing people to access brettonia/the patch a day early

it should be available in approx 24hrs and 17 min
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>>169486262
Is that a black library book? google comes up with nothing
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>>169486345
Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay supplement book
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how do you deal with irondrakes/dwarf ranged units? they are so fucking cancer. They have armor so don't bother trying to deal with them from ranged unless you're bringing superior numbers of Hand-gunners, so you're left with only the option of suicide-charging them and watching your dudes get mowed down while charging towards them
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>>169486247
>Wanting Cuckstodes and black priests
>Not wanting A KNIGHT OF BRETONNIA TO BE YOUR SHIELD and huwite priests of sigmar
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>>169486410
Arty or Cav. Cav literally can charge right through their ranks.
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>>169486403
Which edition?
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>>169486410
irondrakes have tiny unit size, shooting them is easy

other units require cav sandwiching
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>>169486410
>archers
what faction
inb4 brettonia
Hey Grace
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>>169486410
>don't bother bringing the counter because reasons
okay?
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>>169485932
>1 enemy unit left
>run out of time

jesus
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>>169486410
get cavalry / chariots / monsters
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Why do I feel like dwarves have the only really good defensive infantry in the game?
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>>169486410
>irondrakes
>suicide-charging them and watching your dudes get mowed down while charging towards them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOYlgvI1uE
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>>169486490
did you read what I wrote? they are tough little rock niggers that will mow anything that melees them, including cav (unless you're using a large number of knights or demigryphs or someshit, since if you use too little you can only engage some of them while the rest of the midgets get free target practice on your cav that's stuck in melee with them)
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>>169486078
Is Skaven chaos worshipers?
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>>169486247
>>169486456
https://youtu.be/0ZWGeidvrJw
this is you
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>TW:W
>benchmark 80fps
>first campaign battle 30 fps

what the fuck is going on?
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>>169486662
Wait until you play on Legendary.
Also no Phalanx.
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>>169486725
they worship a chaos god, who in AoS takes Slaanesh's place in the main 4, although is still just plague and backstabbery not rape
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>>169486403
>It has been a common misconception that Skaven are all of the male gender. The specifics of where they come from are widely debated amongst those scholars who show an interest in the species, and include many ludicrous theories as to the origin of the Ratmen. One such postulation is that the Skaven are born directly from Chaos, while another claims they are merely ordinary rats that are mutated by constant exposure to Warpstone. The truth of the matter is that there are, indeed, female Skaven, locked away in the depths of the Under-Empire. Female Skaven serve no other purpose than to propagate their vile species, and they are only slightly conscious of the events that transpire around them. Constant application of Warpstonederived narcotics beginning at a young age keeps them blissfully ignorant of the events that transpire in the Under-Empire. So cloistered away from the rest of their race are they that they do not learn their race’s chittering speech, nor are they proficient in even the simplest social skills…or so the Skaven believe.

From Children of the Horned Rat: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2e supplement.
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>>169486551
it's a mod for empire
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>mfw no naughty sassanid girl whispering impure things in persian ready to touch my huge comitatenses spear
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>>169485848
So, I was playing Ebdanians (Irish) campaign and I get bonus for moving my armies to other ppl's regions and raiding them. This means that each army generates some income. This is a ridiculous amount of gold earned, and I had almost all my forces raiding North Africa.

(the kebab and nigger nations had taken all of North Africa by this point)
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Today Beneventum, tomorrow, Rome.
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>>169486725
no, they worship a ratman version of shitmar known as the Horned Rat

>a grey seer, priest of the horned rat
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>>169486897
Early in the game, I was swallowing up Spain and because I was winning a war against the Western Roman Empire, I had lots of diplomacy points, and me and the Maurians became military allies. I was raiding for turn after turn, trying to provoke them to fite me, but nothing happened. Then I found out why.

The current king has the traits "Reliable" and "Defensive".
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>>169487015
yamete kudasai kebab-san, Rome is pure and not made for infidels
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Post screenshots
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>>169487015
>no suicide squad unit
Why even play Muslim?
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>>169487149
If Rome is so pure and great, how come it's about to be taken by Muslims?
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>>169487019
Even rats have its own god
Can't wait to hear all those dialogs, when skaven going to be released
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>>169487058
THAT'S RIGHT, GOYUM - he's a beta cuck and I'm the alpha chad pillaging his lands, stealing his waifus and eating from their bag of M&Ms. Literally too beta to do anything about it!

-1000 attitude
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>>169487168
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>>169487438
what do you want-want man-thing ?
>declare war
the horned rat is with us ! you will get the staby-staby
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>>169487445

Damn all that setup to post this image
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>>169487445
nice
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>>169487438
WE DID IT REDDIT - Skaven 2017
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I'm on turn 100 and something with the VC, if I get The Grim and the Grave DLC, will I be able to recruit the new lord and units mid-campaign, or do I need to start a new one?
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>>169487168
>ironfags cucking me into throwing some halberdiers into the trash just so i can stop them throwing their TNT bags

sometimes I hate the stunts as much as I hate the tree niggers. But atleast stunts that are not "TEH DWARVES" or Karak-Hirn are bros and good homies.
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OLD FRIEND NEWS WHEN
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>>169487560
Jesus christ, CA, who writes this shit?
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>about 24 more hours to go before m'lady


NEAR

FAR

WHEREVER YOU ARE
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>>169487445
10/10
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>>169487596
>when the imperial discipline kick in
>never fall back whatever happen
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>>169486894

>tfw no qt frog-faced georgian gf to guide you through the mountains of Caucasus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsQJBxICN0
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>>169487596
That's a nice screenshot, it's not often you get to see a unit spread out so much like they would be in an actual battle. The never leave formation meme is boring
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Help they keep fucking like rabbits
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>>169488086
>letting your bastards live
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>>169488086
>even in a game the muslims fuck until they have 9 childrens

really make you think
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>>169486725

Clan pestilens is based around nurgle I believe but the entirety worship the horned rat which is an actual god I believe, in the same sense of elf gods anyway.
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>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
>THE GRANARY IS FULL MY LORD
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>>169487168
My largest naturally occuring campaign battle yet. Some 6000 Empire and Hochland units face off in the bloodiest civil war I'd ever seen. The confederation that Hochland had become had become too powerful, and in an effort to break a siege they sallied forth into an open field where we clashed. My well protected Sunmaker Helstorm rocket battery amassed some 600 kills, especially with a buff banner that provided additional fire damage. Hochland ceased to be shortly after.
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Wouldn't this be the ultimate irony?
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>>169488309
YOU FUCK
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>new campaign
>tfw pic related after first battle
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>>169488036
TWWH has been the only TW title I play where this happens commonly in my battles.

>same battle
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>>169488309
>>169488351
shit wrong bread
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>Want to play warhammer
>But I also don't want to play before bretonnia comes out
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>>169488405
I got a fucking runefang after I wiped out the little muh seccession niggers near Grunburg
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>>169488346
last warning bud
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>>169488282
I've had happen in my Roman campaigns too.

But then Rome was basically ancient Islam, so I guess it works out still.
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>>169488405
>three hundred turns deep in to a kholek campaign
>ward save is still only 45%

I'M SO MAD
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>>169488467
>>169488309

Stronghold?
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>>169488467
>Record scratch
>Freeze frame
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>death to tree niggers
>death to upstuck stunts
>death to dead niggers
>death to snowniggers
>death to french subhuman medieval peasants
>long live imperial master race
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ah,
Rome
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>>169489051
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Hello, I would just like to say that I enjoy all total war games and I enjoy this general and think you are all nice.

Praise the lady
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>>169488704
YES M'LORD
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>>169489051

Ahhhhhh, Rome
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>>169489419
AH, ROME!?
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>>169484762
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>>169488995
Stop saying niggers, what are you 13?
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>>169489648
nigger
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>>169487168
The beastcucks come
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>>169489585
So what does it depend on? Settlement dmg after a period of being besieged?
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>>169487312
>If Rome is so pure and great, how come it's about to be taken by Muslims?
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>>169489648
Welcome to 4chan

Nigger/Fag are our signature codewords.
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>>169489798

It's meant to represent months of sieges, little skirmishes here and there, disorder inside the city etc.
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>>169489780
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>>169489920
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>>169485932
>fight battle again
>run out of time again

ffs
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>>169490048
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>>169489419
what is Rome worth?
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>>169490204
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>>169487058
Is this Attila or Rome 2?
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>>169490217
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>>169490375
>Langobards
>Ebdanians

Attila.
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>>169487019

The Horned Rat is a Chaos God, just not one of the main four
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What do you think Elf girls taste like?
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>You go fight, I have important business to attend to
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>>169490572
so the same case as Hashut?
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>>169490352
Who braids the beastmen hair?
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Did they release Ancient empires whilst I was gone
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>>169490864
Elf girls
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>>169490864
Other beastmen
>So Khazrak-senpai, whatcha thinkin bout?
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>>169490862

Yes
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>>169459632
Why? Is it a bad idea?
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>>169490927
no campaign
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>>169490927

>Did they release Ancient empires

PFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>169490828
DELET THIS
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>>169491028
CAMPAIGN WHEN DAMMIT
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>>169490828
Beastman dick
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>>169491127
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So i have spent so many hours in game i am tired of the soundtrack, what music do you listen to while playing total war /twg/?
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>>169491416
unironically [spiler] the Bee movie but everytime they say beee 'we are number one' plays ut at everyone 'one' a russian diplomat is shot and the bee movie plays again but 0.5x slower
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>>169491416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezcNxSfa3Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffLbdhP0auc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2htKNGrm3c
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>>169488648
What even is ward save?
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>>169491416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyDKezDLGTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5QzroijYfY
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>>169491416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhy_e5wIX44

F O R T H E L A D Y
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>>169491563
*
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>>169491301
dat swort swing
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>>169491416
unironically the Bee movie but everytime they say beee 'we are number one' plays ut at everyone 'one' a russian diplomat is shot and the bee movie plays again but 0.5x slower
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>>169491579
At 100% ward save the unit wouldn't take damage from any source.
At 100% physical magic would still hurt.

I don't know if fire counts as magic or physical or neither. It's pretty rare anyway.
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>>169491579
The final save calculation made.

>does an enemy attack your guy? if so;
>does the attack hit? if so;
>is the attack strong enough to wound? if so;
>is the attack strong enough to get past the armor save? if so;
>roll for ward save

It's just a flat XYZ% chance to negate any damage that actually connects. A 50% ward save means that 50% of damage taken by your character never actually happens, so someone with 10,000HP would mathematically have the equivalent of 15,000HP as a result.

That 20% Ward Save talisman is the best item in the game because having it equipped negates one in five damage instances.
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>>169491563
>[spiler]
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>>169490927
Dwarfs looks so tiny compared to him
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>>169487584
Seconding this.
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>>169491872
Jesus fuck that is powerful as hell, I had no idea what it was I thought it had something to do with spells firing
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>>169491884
>t. newfag
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>>169491975
In Warhammer 40K it's referred to as an invulnerable save, because that's basically what it is.
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>>169492069
So is it something that removes that amount of damage every time, or has that percentage chance to stop ALL damage?
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>>169491872
don't think TT Ward save carries over to TWW, as cool as it'd be
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Poor fucks
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>>169492145
>man has 50% ward save
>man gets shot 100 times
>50 shots do normal damage
>50 shots do no damage
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>>169492207
So it's the later?
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>go to AE forums
>see this
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>>169492189
Except for the fact that a whole bunch of items literally have ward saves. Play the game before you comment.
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>>169492190
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>>169492271
>ragtag rebellion tat got BTFO in 2 months was run by womz
no wonder
alos
>impyling trannies are nomral and should be expected
bet they actually are a stefoknee
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>>169492259
Yes.
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>>169492271
what's the problem

other than prisoning female warriors and raping them to give birth to cannon fodder bastards
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>>169492271
He actually makes a couple of good points before he goes off the rails at the end. Pity this kinda topic can't be discussed without people on both sides going full retard and getting SEETHING.
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Bretonnian army prepares to defend an important holding
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>>169492607
Why did you pour chocolate on that mountain
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Lads I'm playing as a Morghur and I want to get Khazrak unlocked.

I get that I'm meant to sacrifice 10 sets of captives after a battle but I have been doing that since turn 1 (it's now turn 50) and he isn't unlocked. I want to check I'm clicking the right thing?

It's the leftmost option after a battle right?
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>>169492607

>tfw your liege lord makes you climb up a mountain of shit
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>>169492325
They have Ward saves, but it doesn't translate the Tabletop "Ward save" definition

in Total Warhammer, Ward save of 20% means 20% of the damage is blocked, a unit which takes 100 HP of damage, will take 80 instead because of it's Ward save (same with physical and magic resistances)

Play the game before you comment.
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>>169492750
you can rule tooltips can't you?
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>>169492871
Wait so the other anon
>>169492445
Is just wrong?
Which fuckin is it?
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>>169492946
I assume you mean read.

Yes anon I have read the tooltip but it seems either bugged or I'm clicking something wrong.
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>>169492871
>50% ward save
>100 hits
>50 hits do no damage

vs

>50% faggot save
>100 hits
>all do 50% damage

Those are *literally* identical.
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>>169492871
that is literally what he described you fucking idiot

>>169492982
they are both describing the same thing
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>>169493037
No they are not. They average out at the same thing over a long period of time but are not the same thing at all.
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>Stacies reeeeeeee
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>>169493018
>get shot in the face with a cannon
>50% reduction means your face still gets blown off
>50% ignore means you flip a coin if you getting blown off was merely a flesh wound

Ward safe is literally plot armor
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>>169488405

What is a ward save anyway

Sounds like table top mechanic
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>>169493018
>Those are *literally* identical.
That's just untrue

The outcome is the same, but the way of getting there is very different
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>>169493018
the average result is the same, but the "damage shaving" (second way) is less RNG prone, for the good and for the bad

There's no clutch rolls to completely avoid Kholek's hammer for example

>>169493037
jumping from a tall building and hanging yourself are not the same thing, even if both result in you autistic life ending
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>>169493213
>average out to exactly the same thing over time

BRO NO U DONT UNDERSTAND THO THEYRE 100% LEGIT DIFFERENT....
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>>169493441

but from a game mechanic standpoint. they do the same thing.

doubling your 50 or halfing your 200 gets you 100, every time. Nothing more to it than that.
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They should introduce a family tree mechanic for the dorfs. That way if one of your kin is killed in battle you get another grudge to avenge them.
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>>169493484
Holy shit, are you retarded?
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>>169493438
Ward save is pic related, these autists are just arguing over the definition when it's already there in the game.
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>>169493603
We are discussing tabletop ward save you idiot.
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>>169493438
It is. It's protections that are magical/mystical in nature, that protect you from things armor won't, for example cannon balls ignored armor in WHFB, but not ward saves.
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>>169492865

That man is actually 24
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>>169493657
>>>/tg/
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>>169493657
I didn't realize this was tabletop general, not total war general. Fuck off autist.
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>>169493657
This is the wrong thread then, you autismo
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>>169493657
"no"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWbIoIR04c
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let the dump commence
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>>169493018
depends on how rounding works
some pokemon can make 4 substitutes at lv50 but not at 100 and viceaversa
your rocks health will also change
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I really wanna do some Ebdanian playthrough
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>>169493725
>traditional war games
>/twg/
yeah totes different m9
>>169493996
got a ck2 activator link?
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>>169488308
Chaos Daemons
Warriors of Chaos
Beastmen
Skaven
Chaos Dwarfs

These are the five factions which worship Chaos gods and they are nominally on the same side.

Vampires are evil undead. Tomb Kings were originally envisioned as evil undead but were made neutral instead.

Greenskins are the third antagonist force. They are probably the most entertaining because GREEN TIDE.

Dark Elves are the fourth antagonist force and in older lore were slowly being subverted by Chaos but then they changed that so they were purely Elven assholes taken to an extreme.
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>>169493819
Its the Lady!
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>>169494173
>traditional war games
lmao
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>>169494173
>>169494173
>got a ck2 activator link

No but I have a spare copy of CK2 as a steam gift.
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>>169494198
>not using the order and destruction matrix
WeW LaddiE
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>>169494198
Skaven are only sometimes on the Chaos side.
Most of the times they got their own agenda.

Hell, they even had a deal with Nagash at one time before they backstabbed him
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>>169494323

Some of us still have self respect AoS shitter.
>>
what does /twg/ mean?
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>>169493484
One is guaranteed to do that, the other will generally do that over a period of time, no guarantees

Do you even know what a percentage chance is?
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>>169494362
nothing
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>>169494173
>traditional war games
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It's only /total warhammer general/ when I have more warhammer roll charts than history, m8ys
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>>169494362
everything
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM6qAuVR9l4
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>>169494424
everything
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>>169493657
No we are not, we're discussing ward saves in this game.
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>>169492271
>horsefuckers break their balls by fucking their horse too much

Hahahaha

>>169492481
>goes off the rails at the end
>LOL TRANNY SCYTHIANS

You're fucking retarded, was the French court of Louis XIV trannies because French noblemen liked wearing lipstick, flamboyant outfits, wigs and powdered their faces?

At no point in history has usage of beauty equipment ever been a good indication of homosexuality or other weird shit.
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>>169494349
>base 8th ed is end times/AoSkubmar
KYS NEWFAG
>>169494335
>t. guy who doesn't know in the longrun they aided Chaos, and that the Horned Rat is just a pet rat who Tzeentch loved too much after he got plague
>>169493996
>>169494135
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>>169494401
Do you even know what an average is?
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>>169487584
>>169491970
Don't know about the Lord but when I bought K&W in the middle of a Greenskin campaign I was able to recruit the RoR's. I'd assume it's no different for G&G.
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maybe it will be /twwhg/ when the 2 expansions are out.
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>>169491416
War:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=520Dt7AEMe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVB_L9VWVsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDjj43dC1wE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7cGgWAjBuk
Peace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddz49QPXv3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9avX_Bj9lI (that's Stronghold 2 actually)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP3D8bkLfAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZehl3GsmH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUmzkSmbKi8

Just mix it with other soundtracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBa5tf4BZ10 this is perfect for battles played by Empire
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>>169494298
with all the DLC?
I got the base game on sale, only to realise all the DLC bundles give you the base game so it was a waste of £5
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>>169494703
You didn't answer the question.
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>>169492481

It's one of those topics where someone who seems to have your stance starts arguing and you're like "go get 'em bro" and then halfway in they take a giant shit and stampede into autism-town making everyone who thinks that way look like idiots
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>>169494615
This

The effiminate french men from the 18th century were womanisers while the masculine muscular greeks from 400 BC were fucking each other all day long
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>>169494323
kys

>>169494335
They worship a Chaos god, they are on the side of Chaos.

That's like saying because some sect of Christians don't help other sects that means they aren't really Christian.
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>>169493530

Only if averaged over time.

If your hero takes two cannon ball hits before you get him safe, in one situation he is guaranteed to take 50% damage, while in the other he could take none, or 100%.
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>>169494914
Yeah this 100%. Either you are arguing that Attila the Hun was a genderfluid 10th dimensional otherkin, or that all women are literally rapeslaves in all periods of history before 50s america (and that was a bad change)
>>
>>169494914
I just particularly hate when people study or attempt to use history to advance a political agenda rather than purely academic study, regardless of which side they choose to take.

Both sides have just enough of a nugget of truth in them before they get buried underneath rubbish.
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>>169494925

Well, protestant are not Christians, they are fucking heretics and they all should burn in a stake.
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>>169494705
Thank you.
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>>169494780
Sometimes, when I see people with thousands upon thousands of hours played in DotA 2 or LoL, I tell myself "Wow! What a bunch of idiots, playing the SAME GAME for THOUSANDS OF HOURS.". And then I remember i've literally had Stronghold & Crusader installed for fifteen straight years.
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>>169495141
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Well guys

I guess this is it, the game has become a slog at this pont, I brought the word of the prophet everywhere I could and I captured the capital of the Christians, I'd say I made Muhammad proud, was fun playing this campaign with you.
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>>169495328
Absolutely halal
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>>169495328
>capital of christians
cathocucks leave and pls stay leave
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Which version of Europa Barbarorum is better? Is II good yet?
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>>169491872
Mark of tzeentch in chaos campaign is 22% ward
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>>169495242
Based Luther.

Blew the fuck out of the simonistic, sophistic papists and laughed while doing it.
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Is the Templehof Luminark RoR bugged? It feels clunky, sometimes it ignores my orders and feels like it has 1/3 the firing rate of a normal Luminark?

Is it by design? Dunno if the Net of Amonkar is worth a Luminark which fires once every full moon
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>beat my first Welf campaign
>on normal
>with medium unit sizes
K-King in the Woods...
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>>169488467
Oh hey It's Lord what his name with the generic face
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>>169495726
There's a bug with luminarks randomly getting obstructed
Not sure if it got fixed
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>>169494362
The Wicked Gays
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>>169495843
No one cared who he was till he put on the helmet
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>>169495726
I did use it yesterday and it 3 shotted a forest dragon at range.
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WHEN?
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>>169495141

Woaw rude, we're just as much christians as catholics, Just a difference of opinion.
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Anybody know if they will ever release bretonnia as a faction?
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>>169496420

Never
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>>169496420

Probably not, they're just shit empire with peasents and sucking an elf gods tits.
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>>169496420
No, GW literally forgot them
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>>169496271
FIRE FROM ZHARR NAGGRUND
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>>169496271
Too short
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>>169496271
>posting fanmade shit

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.0/Legion_of_Azgorh

Legion of Azgorh is the actual army list that will be used for Chaos Dwarfs
>>
Is dx12 any good yet?
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>>169496898
Also here are many of the models

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FI/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102738+3084036522&qty=8&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat2210035

>sharr'tor the executioner

Apparently GW is bringing Chorfs into AoS, who knew?
>>
Any news about that early bretonnia release?
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>>169496898
>Linking AoS shit

Meanwhile, the fanbook I posted is an 8th ed update based on the LoA list. But you're a faggot so of course you made autistic assumptions.
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>>169497093
This morning it was 29 hours, didnt write up the time...so i guess its around 15 now?
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Alright, I'm gonna play with either http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=871014375 or http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866743542
But who should I play as?

I'm thinking either Kraka Drak or Azhag
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>>169491416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15YgLWdIjGE&list=PLxv8VelkqM0aQPQiSHmwfbVn85213jvfx&index=1
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>>169497329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_rstI_iym0
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>>169491416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VxoXn-0Ezs

desu senpai
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>>169497402
Why could this game not have been made by a good developer.
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>>169497329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljHBXA3UKE
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>>169497143
Yeah no

http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tamurkhan:_the_Throne_of_Chaos

The legion of azgorh list was originally released as part of Tamurkhan. You need to kill yourself.
>>
Who is the best beastmeme legendary lord, and why?
>>
>>169497573
Yet you linked AOS shit.

And why do you keep making autistic assumptions when you're clearly the ignorant one here?
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>>169497548
The developer was fine, the publisher was the problem.
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>>169497273
Kraka Drak is pretty boring honestly. Nothing really happens except constant public order problems, losing your cities over and over and then the end times happen... yeah, it's cool at first but gets tiresome very fast, imo.
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>>169497548
You mean publisher right?
EA forced them to use Dark Age of Camelot engine due to time constraints.
Its not like they werent dicks to Ultima series beforehand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-BHMhQLCBM
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>>169497273
Kraka Drak if you got Cataph's mod.

Makes it completely different from other Dwarf factions besides startpos
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>>169497573
>Chaos Dwarfs Wiki
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>>169497573
>You post an AoS update
>He posts a fanmade 8th edition update

I think he's in the right here, anon.
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>>169497584

>sp

khazrak due to being very powerful and no minotaur debuff

>mp

morghur due to ridiculous survivability, damage, chaos spawn spell
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>>169497667
IT'S THE SAME FUCKING LIST YOU ILLITERATE MONGREL
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>>169497692
>>169497759
What if I get conquer anywhere and pain Norsca blue?
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>>169497818
The Legion of Azgorh was originally released as part of WHFB. You and him autistically screeching "but it says AoS!" will not change that it is the only official army list released recently for Chaos Dwarfs. It will be the basis for Chaos Dwarfs in game. No fanmade shit will be incorporated. He can kill himself and you can fuck off for giving credence to his autism.
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>>169497843
So?

You link the AoS version because you assume that people aren't aware of the LoA. You're trying to appear all smart and knowledable when you don't even pay attention to what you're linking.

You weren't even aware that they'd made an AoS update. So again, you do nothing but expose your autistic ignorance.
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Is the suggested mod pack up to date?
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>>169498117
No, I linked it because it's the first fucking result you tremendous autist. Anything you say is irrelevant because the list was originally created for WHFB, it is the list that will be used for the Chaos Dwarfs and you continuing to post is just you flailing around like a moron.
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>>169498316
>no radious

why would you even consider getting the /twg/ mod pack?
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>>169498063
Nigga, of course I know they won't incorporate the fanmade 8th edition stuff, but that don't mean I can't share quality fanwork while praying to sweet Jesus that they'll incorporate something similar. Thommy H. actually did a great job with his rulebook, it dodges a lot of the problems the fanbooks usually suffer from. The new things fit the lore and the army composition.

I wonder if they'll expand the Chorfs beyond the LoA stuff. Everything is possible now that Bretonnia got new things.

>>169498350
>Still being this triggered.
>>
>>169498316

>mods

Disgusting.
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>>169497904
That can be nice too, but be prepared for some shinenigans on the main map

Big problem with Conquer Anywhere is the thing which makes Wood Elf AI so fucking aggressive. The moment the AI can wage war on a faction without having to deal with constant backsteps to replenish units it gains a massive war boner.

It tends to make the late game an absolute bore if you're playing a minor faction. Imagine the Badlands Bowl except this one is free entrance for everyone
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>>169497196
22
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>Gobbo Archers
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>>169498874
>sneaky stabbin
now single target


also

/tg/ shit needs to stay in /tg/
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>>169498874
>ERRANT KNIGHTS
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>>169485895
Speaking of which, are there any lore examples (in both fantasy and 40k) of genuine nice guys who worshipped Chaos?
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>>169499564
the astartes who genuinely believed the Emperor had betrayed them during the horus heresy maybe
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>>169499564
archaon
>>
>Play multiplayer
>bring a heavens caster with urannons thunderbolt.
>up against dwarfs
>use the upgraded version against some longbeards
>3/4 of the magic resistant unit dies.

And people complain about magic.

then again the AI has god tier micro abilities to evade spells so bombardments only really work when you're in melee with the AI. but in multiplayer cheeky lightning bolts can fuck up their most elite infantry if they're not focused on them.
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>>169500039
>Play multiplayer

lmao
>>
>>169500039
Offensive spells only really work when the enemy is blobbed up a lot (which does happen in multiplayer a lot since buff stacking is so common)
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>>169495794
>Play dwarves on normal
>Win by turn 85
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>>169500364
I was using lightning bolt on stationary infantry.

But I bring offensive spells according to how i'm going to play or who i'm facing. Wind blast is better against lighter infantry, while thunderbolt is better against heavy armored infantry. Comet takes a long time to come down and is easily avoided so its only use is in the middle of a blob in melee especially if they're caught in a pocket.
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>>169494740
rollin
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>>169499564
Ogryns in 40K. They're so dumb that they believe orders from superiors literally filter down from the Big E himself. Getting them to worship Chaos is as simple as telling them that the guys they've been working for are actually the BAD GUYS, and that worshipping Chaos is what the Emperor wants.
>>
Are crossbowmen effective against pistoliers if I can get them focus fired?

I fucked up early in my Empire campaign and the entire thing hinges on whether or not six groups of crossbowmen can deal with four cavaliers bearing down on my ass.
>>
>>169498980
>/tg/ shit needs to stay in /tg/
except Total Warhammer is entirely based off of the tabletop game, so lite tabbletop discussion is expected. Can't shoo off everything
>>
What magic mod should I use?
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How did they let this happen
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>>169501827
Steel Faith has its own magic overhaul if you use it. Otherwise Cataph
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>>169501291

yeah?

Those "mobile ranged" don't really have any serious damage, their use relys on the fact you can skirmish with them, a crossbowman squad will win in a single 1v1 engagement easy as long as the pistoliers stay ranged and don't run.
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>>169501630
There's stuff that belongs to multiple boards. On /co/ they all the time talk about Marvel/DC/Fox movies, tv series and video games.
On /tg/ they talk about Warhammer games.
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>>169501630
AoS shit and tabletop discussion should stay in /tg/ where it belongs
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>>169501848
What can be expected from Croats I guess
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>>169502009
Thanks
I'm playing completely blind and just trying to salvage my campaign. Marienburg sent a 17 stack my way and a third of them are uppity nobles with pistols.
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>>169502852

>Slavs in charge of tactics
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>>169502975

Get mortars asap, they always go for mortars then you can just cover your mortars with a few crossbowmen and it'll shut them down easy.
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>>169502975
Easy way to deal with Marienburg's starting army is to put an army of your own outside the thin chokepoint to the west a bit of Eilhart and put them on Ambush stance. Marienburg will be tempted by the "undefended" Eilhart and spring your trap. It's very consistent.
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>"empire is ezmode for nubs"
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>>169492271
>but what do i know...

nothing and you should have restricted yourself from making that post
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>>169503428
I've played several campaign as empire and only once or twice have I gone to war with wood elves, and neither time was more than an annoying trifle because of the attrition

what the fuck gives? I don't understand the problem people have with them. Do you disband most of your armies during "peace time" or something?
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>>169502982
>>169502852
Pool party with the slavs
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>>169503986
Sweet anecdote, bruh.
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>>169503428
Just don't discover Athel Loren noob :^)
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Sent KF north to fight the first Chaos invasion with

KF
Bright Wizard
7x Sword inf/1x Halbs
3x Xbows
2x Outriders/2x Knights
2x Mortar/1x Hellstorm

vs a Chaos army that was Hero heavy with 3 hellcannons, 2 Spawn, some chariots and beasts, only a couple marauders and Warriors

It was a win but a pyrrhic one, the Heros and Spawn just fucked my sword line up so quickly it got pretty sloppy

Crossbows didn't kill anything, the cavalry did good work

What's a better composition here? I was thinking dropping to 4 swords and 4 Halbs, dropping the Xbows for more Outriders , losing the mortars completely and using 2x Hellstorm
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>169503428
>"empire is ezmode for nubs"
Nobody said ever
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>>169503986
Probably most people are at war with Vampires or Greenskins or Norscans or some other Empire faction and in the meantime Tree Hitler conquers nearby Dwarfs and most of Bretonnia. Then he declares a war on the Empire, just because he wants to expand, to find more Lebensraum (google it if you don't understand).

Look at >>169503428 and notice that the Empire is at war with 3 WE factions, including Tree Hitler.
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>>169504520
Mainline Greatswords with some Halberds as anti-cav/large backup. Switch the xbows to handgunners, drop the Helstorm for Helbaster Volley Guns. Salt to taste.
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>>169504591
>the best
Learn English.
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How do you win with the Beastmen against the Manlets? I know that some time ago it was almost impossible, did something change with Morgur and Harpies?
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>Enemy faction leader tries to run away.
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>>169504942
learn your memes
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>set up grudge thrower with my wounded units in reserve to defend them
>order grudge thrower to attack oncoming spear troops in the distance
>the rock goes 90 degrees forward into my reserves ten feet away and kills half of them
I didn't even know that could fucking happen.
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>>169505189
lord/heros on razorgor chariots
centigors w/ gw
minos
bestigors
ungor raiders for slayers
cygor for btfo dense dawi formations from range
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>>169505189

Gorebull, Wild bray shaman, 5 minotaur squads with gorebull, charge the front line and overcharge wysans wildform

grats they either die or break.
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>>169505439

>playing as barbs vs romans
>leader sits back without getting his hands dirty
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>>169504942
wew lad
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/534330

So you assholes stop asking about time.

Wait,wasnt it 1 day earlier for goy subscription?
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>>169506457
If you log in to Access, you'll be able to get a code tomorrow.
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>"Ayo white boy, pick up my shit!"
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>>169506457
So 19h left
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>play as Empire
>slow, comfy expansion
>no agents sent to discover
>End Times
>Ostland, Hochland, Nordland all dies
>Kislev left
>Archeon and co gets to my borders and I finish them off
>howthehelldidKislevsurvive?.jpeg
>send captain up north

Kislev has Erengard and 5 full armies camping outside.
Is this common?
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Fucking midgets,always starting shit
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>>169507154
>pickin elves over dwarves
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>>169504910


thanks,

any thoughts on the wizard?
drop it or replace it with another hero type?
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>>169507441
the mushroom sized fucks broke our alliance
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>>169507441
>picking manlets
>at all
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>>169507154
>allied with elves
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>>169507657
They're my vassals
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>>169507581
maybe shouldnt have associated with tree huggers

>>169507640
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>>169507441
Being an elf lover is worse than being an elf.

Being born an elf means you can't change what you are. Being an elf lover means you consciously chose to ally with elves.
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>>169507781
Nigga the hippie reich is the best ally in the game due to their aggresive AI,they actually and can settle anywhere
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>>169507940
they actually help*
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>>169507940
>siding with wood elves
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How do we fix Dwarves in the campaign?

I've completed 8 campaigns in Warhammer so far and every single one has had the Dwarves literally unkillable by the end and occupying half the map.
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>>169507940
>can settle anywhere

Yes, especially your lands
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>>169508107
Now that i think about it,i have enough gold to get the greenskins on my side
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>>169508256
do you have no pride
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>>169508184
We wait for expansion that adds edgy dorfs on east
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>>169507524
Especially with the buff that's coming, I'd suggest a Metal wizard. It would give you armor debuffs to use against high tier warriors. Beyond that, a Warrior Priest if you can fit one in would give you an additional leadership aura and could hold against an Exalted hero. Amber wizards on gryphon mounts can dish out a surprising amount of damage, too (I think their weapon strength is ~450).

Ideally, I would suggest a meme army like x18 Steam Tanks or DEMIGRYPHS FOR DAAAAAYS, but it doesn't appear that you're going for that build.
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>>169508184
Buff Greenskin units' autoresolve value. Done. Now enjoy DA ENDLES WAAAAGH
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>>169508445
Did you use a mod to make this screenshot or can it be done without?
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Is the patch tomorrow as well? I don't want to start a campaign with my friend and then have to start again due to balance changes.
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>>169508093
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>>169508445
>Dismounted Portable Helblaster (Pox Gunlances) Gryph Riders
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>>169508607
>x18 Steam Tanks
seconding the Panzergruppe build
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>>169508184
I don't see the issue.
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I feel like doing a tree nigger campaign.

Orion or Pissed off Treeman?
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>>169508725
>do this
>grimgor wins the badlands bowl every time
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>>169509226
Will lose to my Gobbo 18x Arachnarok Spider build that defeated Archeon and saved the world from Chaos.
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>>169509751
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>>169509416
>you must now choose your path
>Will you pick mighty Durthu, in his quest to purge the world alongside the dormant spirits of the forest
>Or... Orion, a beastmen in disguise, followed by a retinue of homosexual elves barely functional enough to fire a bown

how is it even a question?
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>>169508607
A Warrior Priest is a huge hassle though since this will make it impossible for you to ever auto resolve a battle. Unless you are ok with just recruiting a new one after every fight.
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>>169509018
nah mate they are just releasing Bretonnia without the rebalancing of their existing units or anything
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Haha,yes
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>>169510176

Exactly what I thought they'd do, thanks bud!
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>>169508184
We add in Chaos Dwarfs to kill the Dwarfs

>Now the Chaos Dwarfs are blobbing and controlling half the map

We add in Ogres to kill the Chaos Dwarfs

>Now the Ogres are blobbing and controlling half the map

We add in Daemons to kill the Ogres

>Now the Daemons...
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>>169510220

playing on easy and you have a fuckton of cheat mods

what a colossal shitter
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>>169508445
Hey look, the Ironsiders.


Is that mod still retarded OP, or has the Whirling Cavalcade of Death finally usurped the title of "Most Broken Mod Handgunners"?
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>>169510619
>Now the Daemons...
Demons are the last faction to be released, and so will remain OP to boost final sales of Warhammer 3 for all eternity
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Is middenheim start confirmed yet? I really want to have easy access to the +3 vet on spearmen/crossbows early in the game
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>>169510220
>unreliable
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>>169508607

Thanks again,

I do prefer to keep the cheese to a minimum. The AI has enough issues,
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>>169510710
Totally,that black armor mod sure makes things easier!
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Anywhere you can download the Warhammer DLC? Doesn't need to be cracked I assume, can just copy it over if you have a legit steam copy, right?
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>>169509416
Elves > Ents
Trees are slow, Elves are fast. True understanders of strategy can use the value of speed.
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>>169508184
>Play empire
>Win the campaign
>do some post campaign cheevos
>decide to do the ultimate grudge and raze the dwarf capital
>Have fun playing empire vs dwarf gunlines that I play a couple more battles after that,
>After taking out the dwarf capital the next three armies I faced were primarily slayers.

It was pretty cool. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that one of the main recruitment buildings in the next nearest dwarf province was for slayers. But the idea of so many dwarfs deciding to take up the slayer oath because they weren't there to save their capital or weren't able to stop the humans or they had lost members of their clan... It was great. It was like every dwarf decided to go on a jihad against my empire forces.
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Anyone know where I can get a crack for the dlc for Warhammer?
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>>169510710

how can you tell he has mods?
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>>169511074
the cheapest place for dlc is actually steam
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>>169511072

>using graphics cheats
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>>169511074
store.steampowered.com
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Does the AI do anything with the gold you give them in payments or is it just used for diplo points?

I'm considering giving an AI ally 10k in the hopes he'll finally purchase a second army
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The DLC powercreep is real. Just got the Welv and Beast Meme DLCs, a lot of their lord's skills are way better than anything the original faction's lords have.
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Never seen them popping up a new army but seen them recruit units and improving towns.
If that comes from my money though..
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>>169511221
>BLACKED
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I want to fuck a Branchwraith. Also why did TWW make them genderless looking? I don't think they had boobs unless I'm mistaken. I think dryads at least are female looking?
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>>169512184
They can shape shift so they can look like beautiful maidens to lure travelers to their deaths.
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>>169508093
>>169509085
Its like I'm wearing...nothing at all!
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>>169503428
It used to be, before Shitmen and worst elves.
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>whistling shot
>flaming shot
>dead general
>settlement destruction
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>>169512184

They have tree tits
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>>169510865
>Cavalcade of Death

They're both equally OP, but the Cavalcade has no unit cap, while the veterans recently got one.

Pick and choose your poison. Or mix poisons. Using both together is hilarious
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This would sell incredibly well especially in Asia and should be the next fantasy Total War. Warhammer showed the formula works.
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>>169510007
Why arent you allowed to play as actual elves not faggy beastmen or trees?
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when i'm on the campaign map every couple of minutes the screen will just go black, and when it comes back the game is definitely darker than it was before. drivers are up to date, tried running in windowed, vsync off. anyone have any idea what i can do to fix this?
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>chilling till Brettonnians
>waifu of Sigmar gets gangbanged by a chaos warband
DAMN YOU
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>>169511824
Honestly I feel it's less power creep and more they've been slowly working out whats best to do and what's more fun.

Like when you look at the DLC's in release order you can see that slow rise of them getting better. But yeah the Original 4 should get a overhaul at some point as they're all so kind of bland now next to things like Beastie boys/Welfs/Some of the FLC Lords.
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>Through diplomacy or sheer intimidation, the greenskins
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>>169513694
forgot to mention i'm playing total warhammer
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>>169513506
In Expansion 1 that includes the Elf homelands
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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>>169510007
Playing Orion is more fun though, you get to use tactics and shit with your non-amber units while Durthu is pretty much "make trees, click attack".
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>>169513230
>Nintendo exclusive
>Dumped down
>Even more casual than now
No thanks
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>>169510619
>"""Dawi""" Zharr
>them and their """God""" got fucked by Grimgor who stumbled upon them by complete accident
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>>169511898
Which eye color he has? In screenshot it looks blue but in cinematic he has green.
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>Pick Kemmler to go full spookmancer and genocide some uppity vampires
>Have some faggot Carstein yelling at me the whole game and showing up for diplomacy like hes the boss
Really dumb
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>>169514183
>Pick Kemmler
Literally why?
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>>169513847
>tfw the expansion is a new map that has just not-atlantis and the new world
>>
NEFERATA WHEN
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>>169514007
>Citing End Times fluff.
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>>169514380
I did the same, Vampires are cringy bald fucks. I just want to be a chill necromancer and be behind 7000 skelingtons
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>>169514126
>that nose
By Sigmar, NO!
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>>169514487
Why not pick the other Necromancer with the based Corpsecart?
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>>169514183
He is a faction leader after all
Very bald faction leader but still
>>
Mannfred did nothing wrong
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>>169514487
Then use Ghorst or a normal necromancer, they're actually better.
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>>169514630
Kemmler has a nice hat and beard
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>>169514723
He only destroyed world
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>>169514126
Any mods that give Karl Franz a beard? He would look much more like Sigmar's champion and less like a Slav if he had a beard.

>>169514183
>mfw first campaign when Vlad and Isabella are released is going to be a Kemmlar campaign.

Going to feel good destroying those archaic edgelords with the powers of no gf wizardry.
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>tfw played Attila all week
>Tomorrow Brets
>Will play for a few hours, then stop and wait for the next update

Warhammer campaign is just boring and the sieges a pain.
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>>169512184
Sure thing, what could possibly go wrong.
Would you fellas like to see some illustrations from old children faerie books?
Guy did draw for LOTR later on.
Pretty nightmarish stuff for kids
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>>169514380
Kemmler in lore is 10/10 cool dude. Von Carsteins are all massive faggots.

I dont give a shit about tier lists for a single player game.
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>>169514840
The world had it coming
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>>169514738
>Literally muslim beard
What did they mean by this?
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>>169514980
yeah after chaos is beaten their is no reason to keep playing, and sieges are absolutely horrible
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>>169515090
Vampires = jews, subverting and destroying the empire.

VCs manipulate Kemmler (representing mudslimes) to flood the empire with his digusting horde of brainless followers
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>>169514981
Alan Lee is based, I have a Rivendell print on my wall.
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>>169512184

>mfw Orion turned out to be a walking ballista
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>>169514981
Also
>Live next to a lake
>chapter on books about lake faeries that drown children
>phobia of staying near shoreline for whole childhood
Thanks Lee
>>169515387
Sure is
>>
WHERE'S KRELL?

Seriously, where the fuck is krell?
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>The entire point of Kemmler in warhammer is hes the greatest non-nagash necromancer
>Goes around on adventures with his BFF Krell
>No Krell in TW, Kemmler isn't the best necromancer
I still cant believe they mention Krell but you don't get him as a bodyguard,
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>>169515010

>Necromancer that falls to Chaos
>10/10 cool dude

Pick one.
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>>169515569

>that shitty paintjob
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>>169515569
OG Krell model is best
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Here is Grogg again
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>>169510220
>Unreliable
>Undoubtedly using some sort of money gain mod
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>>169515841
>>169486109

Have to use these ridges to survive the Hellcannon onslaught
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>>169515569
Them need to separate Kemmler, give him his own faction and add new settlement somewhere in bretonnia, well and add Krell as legendery hero

This is the only way someone will be playing as Kemmler
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>>169515848
I erm...is that E.Y.E?
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>>169515569
I
NEED
MORE
MINIONS
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>>169516056
Nyes
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>>169516043
I mean loads of new players go as him because the other Vampire Count lords look like turbofags. Fans of necromancy and skellingtons don't want any shit like that.
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>>169516169
>>169516056
>>169515848
What am I witnessing here, some AoS shit?
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>Even Nagash have its limits!
/twg/ is that true?
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>>169495328
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>>169516030
Now they are close enough.

CHARGE
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Is there any way to disable the fucking rain?
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>>169516251
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>>169516319
Victory
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>>169516429
hey wtf. ive never seen it rain
are you using mods? or maybe one of my mods is disabling it?
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>>169516510
KHAZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK
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So there are halflings...what about gnomes?
Are there any gnomes in the setting?
>>169516251
E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy
Its something between a russian bootleg, deus ex and a fever dream.
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>>169514126
Do you think Karl can take out this small Warhammer from his helmet in case he loses Gal Maraz in battle?
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>>169516510
Grogg is dead
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>>169516529

No mods whatsoever.

3 different maps, VC, Empire and Bretts, and all 3 of them had rain.
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>>169515624

Would you have preferred if they just threw a skeleton head onto a Chosen (Great Weapon) and called it Krell?

At least this way there's a neat direct rivalry between Vampire/Necromancer factions that can be expanded on later when these characters start flipping their allegiances.

Vlad & Isabella vs. Mannfred & Kemmler/Ghorst

When Tomb Kings get included you can scoot Kemmler down to Nehekhara, pair him up with Krell as a secondary LL, and have him fighting Settra or Arkhan the Black to earn that Lichemaster title he likes so much.
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>>169516043
Army of the Cairns pls.
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>>169495328

>that horrible spread of controlled land

enjoy losing literally half your empire within 20-30 years to crusades and raiding barbarians
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>>169516723
GROGG NO
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>>169516723
Also Thorgard got a fitting trait from leveling up. He has been through so much chaos shit it's not even funny.
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>>169516940
>Impenetrable
>>
Oh dear
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>AI puts melee infantry in places where no siege tower can reach

That was amusing.
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>>169516940
Oh fuck off
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>>169516676
No, but I do own that book.
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>>169494550

Dix e normus
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>>169517206
At least I get by based ridge again.
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>>169517312
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>>169517312
For you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5N_Jc8PFpk

How come nobody plays Ceasar in Gaul and such?
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>>169516695
thats the real gal maraz, dwarves are a lot smaller than you'd imagine
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>>169517423
Thorgard running back to his men after he got done with the chaos wizard
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>>169517517
There was a theory in the old fluff that the hammer that the Emperors have carried is not the same one that was carried by Sigmar.
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>>169514913
He's not Sigmar's champion, he's Prince and Emperor.

Valten is the guy you're looking for. Pity he died. Twice.
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>everyone stopped making mods and now make maps instead
just
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>>169517613
Final charge
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>>169517806
I'll take maps over "another motherfucking cheat mod" every day of the week

At least people making maps are providing some content
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>>169516842

I'm sure it will be incredibly easy to go through the alps and pirenees
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Most efficient dorf artillery? And is there any way to justify the flame cannon?
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>>169517824
It's over for now. The second chaos wave has been broken which gives Thorgard some time to get his army back into shape and build more defenses.
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>>169518000
Grudge thrower and Gob lobber
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>>169517806
Most of those mods are shit anyway
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>>169516820
Honestly hes kind of an odd Vampire Count lord choice. Im pretty sure he hates Vampires.

He would work better as a general of Nagash even though he ALSO kinda hates Nagash
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>>169517927
Yeah because only cheat mods exist right
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>>169518000
Irondrakes are more mobile
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I got Total War: Warhammer in the Humble Bundle but I'm stuck in the Civ5 mindset that if I expand to aggressivly my taken over towns will get pissy and start throwing a strop and pooping out angry dudes and I'll make fuck all mobey cuz everyone hates me.

Is there much of a infrastructure downside to trying to take over everywhere besides having to defend shit all over the place and having a million towns to micromanage?
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Why is Warhammer so boring bros?
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>>169518000
Grudge thrower and Cannons
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>>169515569

why are so many autists like you sperging out over a character that will just end up super boring in the game?

wow, another melee-based character for VC, that's...so...coo-zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>169518015
Meanwhile down south
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>>169515569
Where's Mikael Jacsen?
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>>169518135
its for casuals
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>>169518234
How the fuck are you going to make a LL ranged?
Will he do magical aoe poofs with arrows?
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>>169518294
>implications
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>>169518046
they are the vast majority of actual content released, alongside (Radious version) mods, which are not even worth mentioning

Good mods will keep coming as rarerly as always, but at least there's some fun maps too
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they should've given balthashit a pistol
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>>169518135
he says as atilla exists
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>>169518391
Eat shit
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>>169518107

>Is there much of a infrastructure downside to trying to take over everywhere

That depends very heavily on what faction you're playing. For example, Vampire Counts require a province to be corrupted before their units can freely travel those lands and any occupied land with low corruption receives a significant penalty to public order. Orcs can also have big Public Order problems.

Factions like Empire have a somewhat less difficult time of maintaining order until Chaos Corruption or Vampiric Corruption become prolific in its territories.

Also keep in mind there's a lot of roving bands of very pissed off Orcs and Beastmen who will try to fuck up your cities if you leave them unattended.
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>>169518135
Ai isnt challenging enough and it doesnt make as many doomstacks as it usually does
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>>169518282
>Mikael Jacsen
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>>169516676
Gnomes were in 1st edition but got rightly BTFO because they are a weak and boring race unsuited to wargaming, and halfings out-charmed them for joke humanoid faction.
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>>169513714
Sorry for the noobish question but what Warham game is this?
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>>169518234
Kemmler and Krell are THE iconic warhammer characters.

Literally the first ever special characters made.
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>>169518383
it is though, a fantasy war game is a lot more appealing than a game set during hunnic invasions of europe
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>Master of the Court
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>>169518234
Because he's an undead Chaos Warrior Grimgor that's why.

It's a good design, not everything is technical gameplay numbers you autistic bastard.
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>>169518247
I would guess that from all the blitzkrieging Hitler does he qould be lvl 30 past turn 100 butI´ve never seen him get past lvl 20
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>>169518107
As you keep expanding ai factions will dislike you more and after a certain number of turns of province treshold End Times will trigger.
So if you spread to this you wont build tall enough to hold stuff properly.
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>>169515848
i'm unreliable because i attacked estrellia
i have lots of gold because i own most of the map and i'm using steel faith overhaul which one of you fuckers recommend
it's fun
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>>169518670
TW was always for casuals
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>>169518716
Durthu is lvl 14. Wood Elves aren't actually that big in my game as you can see. They just have some really strong armies.
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>>169518749
>if you spread too thin you wont be able to sustain enough armies for properly keeping all the land and you will slowly end up grinded down by wood nazis and skaelings
Fixed
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>>169518282

>John-Boy
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>>169518716
He gets btfo too often from overextending and spends too much time wounded.
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>>169518339

theres quite a few ranged LL, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>169518657
Mordheim I think
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>>169518657
Mordheim. Same devs are making a Necromunda game too.
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>>169518670
if you're a pleb
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>>169518876

That's false
>Inb4 grand strategy

Grand strategy is even more for casuals, it just requires learning the mechanics, Total war has an aspect of skill that is completely absent from grand strategy
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>>169519139
You mean casters?
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>>169518657
Mordheim: City of the Damned
Pretty meh game unfortunately
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>>169508923
only better camera and ironsiders mod
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>>169516221
>implying that Mannfred von Carstein, the true emperor, looks like a fag
Anon's bait was weak.
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>>169519316

hurr who is Orion? Did I just hallucinate his javelin?
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>>169518657

Mordheim

It's much worse than the screenshot make it look like
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>>169519305
Both TW and GS have mediocre ai that doesnt pose a challenge in the end and has to resort to cheating. Your point?
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>>169518657
Crippled warband simulator
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>>169519469

That it's not for casuals?

The battles are obviously a casual barrier, controlling 20, or 40 units at times.

Casuals play turn based games or mobas.
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>>169519449
Didnt buy Orion actually.
17 shekels is overpriced as fuck.
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>>169519328
They could have made it a Darksouls style RPG but I guess they liked the Warband thing too much.
>I usually just end up playing till I get the highest tier unit for the faction, after that there is really nothing to work towards
>Hopefully they take lessons learned and apply them to Necromunda.
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>>169519305
>muh /gsg/ boogeyman

The "just requires to learn the mechanics" is valid for any game and is no argument for difficulty. You can beat TW at 12 and it's not even hard, we all started that way. Or are you saying that you couldn't play TW until you were an expert in strategy and tactics?

GS games require more planning ahead than quick thinking, it doesn't mean it's more casual. On the contrary, you have more chances of fucking your game up with no chance of recovering.
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>>169519623
>what is slow mo
Also ai is shit at defending flanks or getting arty up his ass
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>>169519623
Turn based games have more depth and mobas require faster thinking than TW, where you can just hammer&anvil all the time. In some games you don't even need the hammer part and you can win afk.
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>>169519787
>GS games require more planning ahead than quick thinking
Not anymore since investments were replaced by MANA resources because casuals complained long term investment is hard
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>>169519464
Is Mordheim really shit? I gave up after a few battles but thought i just needed to invest some time and git gud.
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>playing Kemmler Campaign on Legendary
>the fucking dwarves take over my castle after the first round

What the fuck?
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>>169519182
>>169519253
>>169519328
>>169519464
Thanks for the responses. Anyway I binge watched some gameplays and it seems a bit like Valkyria Chronicles. That's isn't a bad thing, am I missing something?
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>>169519787

I was better at videogames at 12 than I am now, because that's what I did all day.

You're being fucking retarded, did you consider yourself a casual when you started? You were playing an obscure strategy game about historical shit.

>>169519803

I disagree, also this isn't a matter of opinion, the twitch streams of the Warhammer launch proved my point.

>>169519946

>Turn based games have more depth

Doesn't mean shit, there is no skill involved, some are even RNG based.
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>>169519982
>you can only talk about THESE grand strategy games, not the other ones

We're talking about the genre at large
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>>169519787
The only paradox game worth shit is HoI2, all the others are entirely brainless and you need to gimp the shit out of yourself not to auto-win with practically any start.

>>169520082
>TW
>Skill
Can't stop laughing
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>>169519991
Well those first battles are literally the whole game and you get 6 scenario missions per faction. If you enjoy grinding, sure.
>>169520108
Paradox is only GS thing and they killed it for casuals now
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>>169519652

cool story, but we're not discussing price points nor business practices here
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>>169519991
The learning curve is a fucking cliff but it is by no means bad, just not great. I suggest making use of the buddy system and taking advantage of the verticality of the maps. Also do not use Chaos.
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>>169520179

The battles require skill, something Grand strategy completely lack
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>>169520082
Being "hardcore" as opposed to casual means you invested time refining skill and learning mechanics of the game, something that you don't need that much before you start winning in TW.

>turn based doesn't require skill
>if there's RNG there is no skill

Oh, you're one of those types then.
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>>169519991
>>169520231

The UI made me want to gouge my eyes out, it is rare for an entire game to be ruined just by the UI
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>Krell
The issue is they need to add legendary heroes, give them a unique skill or two and make them slightly harder to unlock and you are golden.

Theres tons for each race you could do easily
>Luthor Huss, Gotrek and Felix for Empire
>Josef Bugman and above for Dorfs
>Wulfrik and Glottkin for Chaos dozens of choices here
>Drycha and The Sisters of Twilight for Elves
>Krell for Spookmancers
>A whole host of named heroes for Gobbos

I wish they would have done a better job at regiments of renown also.
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>>169520336

Are you one of those "luck is part of skill" faggots?

Sorry for wasting my time.
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>>169520179
Well yes, I'm thinking about HoI and Victoria mainly, the ones where you can actually lose.
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>>169520405
Could be worse senpai.
Also who would be Skaven LL?
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>>169520517
>what is the green knight?
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>>169520540
No, I'm one of those "reacting to unexpected shit that can happen is part of skill", something that RNG often provides. I'd like to see how well you fare in steel panthers or toaw.
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>>169520252
Have you actually played a grand strat?
If you dont think they take skill, then youve obviously put no effort into the TW diplomacy mechanics either.
TW diplomacy is just dumbed down Grand strategy diplomacy.
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>>169520405
The trouble is, and we saw this a bit with the Total War title as well, that nobody seems to have much confidence in a Warhammer Fantasy Battle title at this point. So we end up with cheap games rushed out.
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>>169520664
I havent been following the Bret stuff since I want to not be spoiled.

Is he an unlockable Legendary Hero?
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>>169520658
Thanquol - Main Skaven faction
Ikit Claw - Clan Skryre
Lord Skrolk - Clan Pestilens
Queek Headtaker - Clan Mors (with a Karak-8-Peaks DLC)
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So I just fought the Wood Elves, and I attacked their main place, but when I go into battle mode, I don't see a city at all. Is this because I don't have the DLC?
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>>169520751
Grand Stats dont really take skill but they got a learning curve.
Same as TW games or CiV games.

You play MP to find a challenge.
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>>169520751

They only require you to know what works and what doesn't, like any turn based game.

The first time you play XCOM it's hard as fuck, not because it involves skill, but because you don't know if the next thing you unlock will work or not, but it becomes a cakewalk once you finish the game once.
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>>169520658
Gearbox is kind of known for this though.
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>>169520816
Yes, Brets have a chivalry mechanic. Once it gets high enough you can summon the green knight as a legendary hero.
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I GOT REBELS TO THE SOUTHWEST
GREENSKINS TO MY WEST
GOBLINS TO THE SOUTHEAST
A DWARF HOLD SOUTH OF ME JUST DECLARED WAR
THERE'S A BEASTMAN ARMY ON MY DOORSTEP
I ENTERED INTO A MILITARY ALLIANCE WITH STIRLAND WHICH CAUSED EVERY VAMPIRE FACTION TO DECLARE WAR ON ME
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>>169520982
summon
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>>169520982
>Stuck in the middle with you
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>>169520886
>Xcom
Original Xcom was all about learning how aliums work with LoS and once you figured it out it became alot easier.
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WHICH WARHAMMER CHARACTER NEEDS A GOOD FUCK
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>>169520859

Wood elfs have no cities

I know, I was shocked too
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>>169520751
Bro TW isn't a strategy game, it's a battlefield simulator. The strategy map is just a means to get you into battle and provide a narrative of the battles purpose.
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>>169521064
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Fucking WHEN!!!!!!!!
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>>169518660
Skarsnik and Gobbla proved that you can have a single unit with two individual models running separate animations.

I fully expect to see Kemmler & Krell as well as Gotrek & Felix in the near future.
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>>169521164
Hopefully never.
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>>169521064
>not bedding your own progeny
Are you stupid or something?
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>>169520859
Wood Elves have no cities, they live in the trees. Thankfully they're getting a couple more defensive maps with the patch.
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>>169521064
Fuck the retardation out of her
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>>169520072
heres an example.
when you make an attack you can see your chance to hit beforehand lets see thast chance is 80%
you make a few attacks and none of them hit or do dmg
the reason for this is that the enemy has a chance to dodge/parry which isnt shown to you
so your hit chance doesnt really mean shit
personally i regret spending money on it
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>>169521116

This is the best description of TW games, although Attila can also stand as a strategy game
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>>169521403
>what is double roll
First your roll for hit and then you roll to pass dodge/parry. After a single parry/dodge they cannot do it anymore. Nothing strange about that.
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>>169521403
>>169521578

XCOM does this bullshit too.
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>>169521667

>tfw LW2 doubled down on the RNG

DUDE ADD MORE ROLLS ON TOP OF ROLLS LMAO

100% GRAZE DUDE
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>>169521807
Sure is offtopic around here.
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I heard the Chaos campaing is shit. Did they reworked it a bit at least?
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>>169522258
lol
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>>169522258
Nope. Beastmen are superior.
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>>169522620

I agree beastmen are superior
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>>169521064
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YOU HAD ONE JOB
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I'm impressed. The mod that improves the southern realms is DLC tier.

I can't wait to crush them with Bretonnia.
>>169522026
> No sniper to obliterate everything that moves

That guy was playing the game wrong.
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>>169521116
Warhammer is not, but Attila certainly is.
Im not sure why they took out all of the flavor with Warhammer's diplomacy and building.
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>>169522620
What is that seal doing?
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>>169522887
Fucking heretics
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>>169522843
>tfw in AoS she became a thicc giant

why is this allowed
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>>169522887
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>>169521064
MUMMY
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>>169523042

Having fun

I know you bought the whole "animals can't feel emotions" thing meat lobbies push
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>>169522959

>Attila certainly is.

Literally babby's first GSG in terms of campaign map features, it's fucking teaspoon shallow compared to any decent GSG game, the only real difference is that TW:WH cuts out all the mindless busywork on the campaign map and stops pretending to be something it isn't. Attila doesn't actually require you to make any meaningful choices during campaign map gameplay.

In Attila you spend 2-3 minutes per turn fiddling with numbers, in Warhams you spend 1. You make the exact same number of real strategic decisions in both, that number being 0.
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>>169523042
Chilling.
Whats the closest we got to World War TW games? FoTS?
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>>169523042
Anon, that's a dog.
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>>169523252
>>169523042

>seal

Nigger are you retarded or do you genuinely not know what a seal is?
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>>169521259
>Gotrek & Felix

Already done lad
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>>169523481

It's a fucking Otter you dumbass.
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>>169522842
i'd suck her cock all night long if you know what im saying
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>>169523508
I don't wanna rely on mods though. Besides, it's custom battle only
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>>169523484
>when you spot a Norscan raid
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>>169523484
What did he mean by this
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>>169523252
You're right, even lizards can do that. Once I saw one in my garden, it kept climbing a wall and then jumping on top of a fucking cactus, over and over again. It was pretty cute.

That said, go eat your vegetables somewhere else
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>>169522842
watch through vid for first time

>meh

re-watch and notice girl has an adam's apple

>megaboner
>added to folder
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>>169523731
Both of them got scared kek
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>>169523687
Have you never heard of misidentifying things on the internet on purpose for fun?
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>>169523687
Are you fucking retarded? That's clearly a walrus you dumb cunt
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>>169523687

no it's a dog retard
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>>169523818
W-why did it do that
Lizardmen when?
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Reddit normfags are leaking
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>>169523415

I've played both, Attila is a better game than whatever pop up simulator you choose.
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>>169524030
>:43

GOOD GOIN MY NIGGA
>>
Rank the factions you are waiting for the most

Kangz>Skaven>Edgy elves>Lizardmen>Daemons>High Elves>Edgy manlets>Ogres

Just noticed that there are quite a lot of edgy faction in there. Nice, they are my favourites
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>>169524284
>Atilla is superior
>Romans spam basic spearmen to death and get stomped
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>>169524342
Kangz
Lizardmen
Skaven

Ogres
High Elves
Dark Elves
Daemons
Chaos Dwarfs
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>>169521073
>>169521323

Huh, so the open field battle is how it's always going to be done?
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Brettonia and Isabella Von Carstein are going to be free right?
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>>169524030
holy fuck that's some fantastic footage
>>
I dread the day when we get the stupid fucking elves, reddit rats and lizardmen
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>>169524552
Yeah they just sleep on the ground and trees
So they fight there as well
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>>169521318

What comic is this from?

Is this WAR related?

Or End Times related?
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>>169524284

>Attila is a better game than whatever pop up simulator you choose.

I agree, in fact I don't like GS games much at all.

Which is why I'm so glad that Total War games has hollowed out the campaign map to the point where it has become what it was meant to be, a simple delivery system for the actual meat of the series, the battle gameplay that is completely unlike what any other game series offers.

People like you who pretend that Total War campaign map gameplay is or ever has been good, deep or worthwhile to ANY degree are delusional faggots, literally worse than the troglodytes in /gsg/
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>>169524632

Yes
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>>169524632
Aye theyre free, Isabella got free because we won that SEGA competition.
>>169524710
WAR related. Very poor scan.
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>>169524681
>not wanting lizardmen
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>>169524632
Ye
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>>169524376

>Romans spam basic spearmen to death and get stomped

They only spam those shitty spears at the very start of the campaign

If they actually end up surviving through mid campaign they end up having Palatina and Herculiani Seniores stacks
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>>169523693
No it's not lad. There are two or three versions available.

The one I use has them recruitable from either Lvl5 Altdorf if you're playing the Empire or The Great Slayer Shrine of Karak Kadrin if you're Dorfs.


They're pretty much legendary heroes. You can only have 1 and the AI can't recruit them
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>>169524867
On higher difficulties barbarians will stomp them way before that.
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>>169524938
Link?
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newfag here. Few questions
>which is the newest total war
>which is being the most played
>which is the best/most fun
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>>169485965
is this that norse dwarfs mod?
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>>169524737
The fuckin irony.

TW has always been about the mix of the two. The only reason the campaign map has always sucked is CA's incompetence.
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>>169525393
Arguably all three are the same, Total Warhammer.
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>>169525393
Warhammer
Warhammer
Shogun 2 is the most noob friendly. Shogun 2, Warhammer, and Attila are all pretty fun.
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>>169525393

>>which is the newest total war

Total War Warhammer

>>which is being the most played

Total War Warhammer

>>which is the best/most fun

Total War Warhammer

Shogun 2 if orcs and magic make you sperg out.
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>>169525646
Rome 2 aint to shabby either with EE.
Also original Rome has god tier campaign with Romans.
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>>169525201
It's literally just searching the workshop, but here I'm feeling generous

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=364360&searchtext=Gotrek&childpublishedfileid=0&browsesort=textsearch&section=home

Note that they're pretty powerful. Not gamebreaking and they have their weaknesses, just keep in mind. They're better than the best melee heroes, but have no abilities or AoE effects. They just kill shit
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>>169525393

if you want something based on late antiquity/early dark ages then Attila is the best for that

if you want something a bit more modern Shogun 2 allows you to have adventures in nippon shooting gooks

the most outlandish/most played and most recent one is warhammer, which is what i'm playing right now

Honourable mentions to Rome II and Empire for different historical periods but I didn't enjoy those as much as the more recent ones.
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>>169525887
I asked for a link because I tried searching for them earlier and all I got was a cheaply made custom battle one
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>>169525804
>original rome

is this a meme? that game cannot be seriously played without massive overhaul mods like Europa Barbarorum or Roma Surrectum II

That was back when CA devs were complete asstards
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>>169525887
>>169525201
Correction. They have the Encourage AoE effect. That is it
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what do you have to do to get bretonnia 1 day earlier? is registering on that TW page enough?
when does it unlock?
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>>169525393
Hello newfriend
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>>169525560
>>169525646
>>169525750
>>169525895
appreciate the info. Totalwarhammer looks amazing so I'm gonna start there. How have I not seen this game earlier. why the koreans not playing this instead of starcraft
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>>169524737

The campaign map, even tho very basic compared to CKII and the like, always mattered in the playerbase. Especially with games such as Rome/M2

You'd always see people talk about their "story" in the campaign map, things like traits, man of the hour, trading/caravans, traits that influenced your generals speeches and so on, was always a part of the total war series

A shame Warhammer has a weak campaign map, it could've made the game truly great
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>>169525960
>Romans are divided in 3 families
>each one goes in a different direction
>pleasing senate for support
>once one of them gets too big realm divide and civil war happens and you finally take Rome

I wish Rome 2 had as good campaign as that.
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>>169526150
it's 12$ on humble bundle
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>>169526150
>comparing RTS to battleground simulator
Also get it from Humble Bundle monthly for 12 bux
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>>169525960
I think it is pretty much agreed that newer total wars have a terrible/dumb down campaign and nicer battles while older total wars had better campaigns.
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>>169525479

>TW has always been about the mix of the two.

Who gives a shit what it's "been about".

Battles have always been good and fun. The Campaign map has always been bad and not fun.

Why the fuck are you desperately trying to defend the Attila campaign map when even you recognize that it's shallow and shitty?

The Warhammer campaign map experience is like a teaspoon of shit that you have to swallow before you can get to what you're really there for.

The Attila campaign map experience is like a big ol' tablespoon of shit with a dab of syrup on the top. The syrup doesn't actually conceal the taste of the shit and you have to spend longer with shit in your mouth before you can get to the actual meal.

It's been 6 fucking games in this series since the last time CA made a game with even semi-redeemable campaign map gameplay, unless they demonstrate that they even care about that aspect it is far better if they simply make it less intrusive.

inb4
>"Food analogies"
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>>169525393

>which is the newest total war

Warhammer

>which is being the most played

Warhammer/Rome2/Attila

>which is the best/most fun

Shogun2/Attila
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>>169526150
Total War games are a little slower than Starcraft as you have to build your armies up beforehand and deal with civil management.

The civics aren't quite as extensive as Grand Strategy games like EUIV or CKII but its still more than what you find in Starcraft.
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>>169494740
Rollan
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>>169524342

Lizardmen, High elves, Dark elves, Don't care about the rest but Skaven probably.
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THESE FUCKING WOOD ELF BUFFS ARE INSANE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I need more missile troops for this fucking war. And more flame shit to beat Durthu.

>had all of my arty and skirmishers trained on Durthu at the end of the fight and he still survived.
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So how is the new patch looking, has anything been fixed?
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Any good videos I should watch before I get into Total Warhammer? Never played any TW game before.
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>>169524342
Lizards>Dark Elves>Skaven>Ogres>Kangz>High Elves
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>>169526859
You could run it as a battlefield+points based game but RTS point is you can adapt your stuff and TW battlefields would be a bitch to cast/spectate
>>169527189
Dont play Empire first. Vamps are easiest then pick Orcs for instance.
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>>169527189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dQ-y4Xomdw&list=PLwVftHdWAdHNOJ-PMquSZMVVAGWIq2TVQ

A lot of it applies to any total war.
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>>169527172

The patch notes are miles fucking long, but we won't know for sure how it all comes together until tomorrow
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>>169527189
There is Zerkovich on youtube that makes a lot of tutorials on basic stuff, strategies, hotkeys, factions etc.

Don't know how good are they but I think It's a good start
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>>169527189
Don't spoil anything for yourself. Just jump in and play. Take your time with every turn, reading tooltips and clicking buttons.
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>>169527189

Honestly if I were you I would wait until tomorrow to start playing, there's a patch dropping with a ton of new stuff
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>>169526150
>why the koreans not playing this instead of starcraft
TWW would make for a great multiplayer game if it was a bit better balanced. The unit rosters translate into multilplayer better than in singleplayer, since it's based off a tabletop game anyway, but most people think of total war as a single player game.
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>>169527154
I vaguely remember two Thunderer stacks blowing up the Hitler Tree before it could do any harm. Did they really buff him that hard?
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>>169527449
Well how many anons here even play TWW in MP? Raise yer hands lads.
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>>169526393
>>169526628

Grand wipe-out-everyone wars between a pack of generic pajama-wearer factions was more immersion and deep than the current campaigns with all their new mechanics?

tell me you're a nostalgic faggot but don't try to say stupid bullshit like that.

Rome 1's campaign was only remotely playable when a mod like RSII was installed (and admittedly the best campaign I ever played was in that mod, and it completely overhauls the game). Vanilla Rome 1 was a fucking meme
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>>169527548
My thunderers didn't do shit. This is a pretty leveled up and geared up Durthu though.
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anyone has attila campaign faction roll chart?
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>>169527813
previous total wars had family trees, crusades, senate/pope opinions, interesting character development/traits, had the choice of building shit anywhere, mercenaries, unit upgrades, unit retraining, really cool encomic system (empire) and thats just off the top of my head.

in warhammer you build the money building in every settlement, mass tier 1 units, autoresolve each battle, and auto regen all your units. theres no strategy. its obvious they want to bringing in a bigger audience and made the game much simpler. I play warhammer the most right now, but you are full of shit if you think the campaign is any good.
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WHO IS THE OLD FRIEND CA? ITS ALMOST TUESDAY WHERE THE FUCK IS THE INFO
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>>169528432


>>169494135
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Absolutely based
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>>169528432
>>169494135
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>>169527295
>>169527341
>>169527385
I've already played two hours, picked Dwarfs. I don't have any real trouble so far except for managing formations and positioning my units in battles. Guess I'll learn to do that when I understand each unit's speed etc.

>>169527305
>>169527335
I'll check them out.
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>>169528832
Lets hope its Boris with his white wolves and anti Sigmar mechanics
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>>169528832
Is he even coming on Tuesday?
I thought it was in March.
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>>169528832
Its going to be advisor-senpai. Just watch.
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What are some waifu mods? Shit like female units, improved faces and shit like that, don't laugh please. DON'T LAUGH
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>>169529154
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>>169529154
There is pretty damsel mod.
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>>169529154
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>>169529154
what do you need a mod for?
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>>169529154
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>>169529138
please no

>>169529060
well at best you'll prob just get boris if he is the old friend

>>169529083
I haven't heard anything about it being in march
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>>169528832
Agreed, new Vampire LL reveal when?
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>>169494740
rollin
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>>169529451
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=860519670
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>>169529451
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>>169494740
Hope you guys ready to make new roll soon
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>>169529451
>barefoot
Fucking degenerate whore.
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>>169529468
>>169529336
>>169529279
Holy shit you did. YOU REALLY FUCKING DID IT YOU PIECES OF BASTARD SHIT I?M GOING TO KILL YOU ALL JUST WAIT FOR IT YOU FUKKERS

>>169529318
>>169529451
Nice, thanks
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>>169529154
soon
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Am i the only one who stops playing a game after I own at least %25 of the map.

By that point, you can just crush anyone and I find that boring
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>>169529887
>another barefoot degenerate
Now that's a sad waste of a waifu.
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>>169529802
>not Warhammer RIP AND TEAR
Git gud
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>>169529451
I want to kiss her smelly feet every day.
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>>169529154
Isabella is coming in 2 days BEST WAIFU
Oh and some old hag for Bretonnia nobody cares about
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>>169528679
>previous total wars had family trees

you mean shit that you ignore/don't give a shit about and a few pop-up tabs every while telling you faglord X came of age or some bitch is gonna marry your general? mechanics man

>crusades

there's no new MTW, and alot of the newer medieval mods for new TW games fulfill that.

>interesting character development/traits

which was completely dropped out in ETW and NTW, the two shit-games in the character development field of Total war.

>had the choice of building shit anywhere

RTW: spam roads, markets, port everywhere
MT2W: Good building system
ETW & NTW: shit-tier campaigns
R2TW & ATW: Good, deep building system. Much deeper than anything before
TWWH: A provincial system, special buildings for special cities, trees to unlock other buildings, extremely varied building rosters for different factions

>mercenaries

they still fucking exist, just not in the manner of "click this tab for instantly available brown-recolored meme troops"

>unit retraining

you're bitching about replenishment but this was essentially replenishment, except you had to throw the troops in a city and click a button and spend cash instead of simulating a real logistical replenishment system

>in warhammer you build the money building in every settlement

do you even play the game?

>mass tier 1 units, autoresolve each battle

smells like RTW and M2TW

>and auto regen all your units

bitches about units regenerating when this was a mechanic since ETW

>theres no strategy

muh RTW strategies

build army

march somewhere

sealclub shit AI pajama armies

no diplomacy required

no real difficulty


>its obvious they want to bringing in a bigger audience and made the game much simpler

now you're just raving like a little retard. Total wars have always been simple, and with the massive level of asymmetry in Warhammer it's far from being "simplified". Go wank your nostalgia boner somewhere else.
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Here's to hoping the next total war is in a Chinese setting
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>>169530157
Stop it you spergs
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Does beastmen exist in new world?
If yes i wonder will we get some new lords there
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>>169530201
Here to hoping they will team up with Rance for next TW game.
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>play the good, deep building system of Rome 2
>literally can't build a market in the grand city of Rome because I already built a barracks
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>>169530539
A Mongol conquest total war would be the best thing ever
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>>169530157
Was this autism?
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>>169530605
Dont think we are on the same foot here laddie.
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>>169530753
Don't deny it. If they release a new total war set in China, you would buy it.
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>>169522887
It kills me that they didn't rename the "Arch Lector" title to "Grand Theogonist" when they added arch lectors as lords.
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>>169522887
he who fights monsters bla bla bla
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>>169531073
I guess it represents the Arch Lector of Reikland or something.
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>>169530992
Eh, i would probably play Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom again
>>169531326
ReichLector?
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>>169530582
>play RTW
>Rome is a little collection of generic stone buildings with orange roofs and a wooden wall

>play ETW
>Paris is a village

>Play NTW
>Paris is still a village

???
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>>169524632
No. Hand over the $29.99, goyim
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>>169531463
>visit Paris
>city of lights turned into a ghetto trash city
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>>169531582
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Fucking Dwarfs
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>play dwarfs
>shit on every orc faction at once in the first 10 turns and have an unstoppable steamroll

>let's try empire
>everyone on the fucking continent wants a piece of my mouth and my people are on the verge of revolt
Jesus Christ
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>>169531653
What's sad is that /pol/tards who barely go out from their basement will believe this shit.
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>>169531757
When people tell you to leave Empire for last they arent kidding anon.
Even Skarsnik is in more defendable position
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>>169531791
No joke. They dont even realize that subway station was destroyed in a peaceful refugee protest bombing a few years ago.
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>>169526679
I never tried to defend it, the Attila campaign is shit.

The only good one ever was Medieval.
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>>169531950
crawl back to /pol/, nigger.
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>>169531757
>>169531857
i dont understand why people have trouble with empire. talabecland, stirland, and usually wissenland are all in love with you. todd is too pussy to start a war with you, and maurienburg is the jew city of infinite gold. The only thing I struggle with is coaxing loeun into conquering his neighbours
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>>169524342
Other than Brets which I'm now hyped for:
Dark Elves>Chaos Dwarfs>High Elves>*Daylight*>Ogres>Lizards>Kangz

Looking foward to playing against the Chaos divided/demon factions, but wouldn't play as them.
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>>169532334
On what difficulty are you playing?
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>>169532328
crawl back to africa
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>>169532334
>talabecland, stirland, and usually wissenland are all in love with you
This is basically rng
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>>169532431
If its a black dude you dont really expect him to swim
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>>169532334
because vampires and gobshits. Traditionally you want to silence the faggotry of any imperial haters around the center of the map, remove the small green niggers, and than go on a massive total war with the vampires, and try to get it over (or mostly over) before the snowniggers come pouring.

Now you have to do all of this while keeping an eye out for the tree niggers
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>>169532542
thats the idea, yes
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>>169531791
I don't understand, are you denying the existence of black people in Paris?
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>>169532552
>Now you have to do all of this while keeping an eye out for the tree niggers
And come 24 hours from now we'll need to deal with the knight niggers.
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Today is ze day
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>>169532634
You m-monster. You know they hoard rocks in pockets.
>>169532552
>>169532751
Nah. Tree Nazis and Skaelings on higher difficulty. Skaelings literally raid you 24/7
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>>169532404
vhard

>>169532512
talabec is hardcoded to love you every game, sirland and wissenland never go to war with you because of nonaggression pact

>>169532552
skarsnik is no threat once you get handgunners and instagib his giant spider, imperial distrust is a GOOD thing because they are more likely to go to war with eachother, woodelves get shit on by handgunners and knights. chaos only spawn quickly if you breeze through the chapter missions, and vc only spawn armies full of zombies from my experience
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>>169532885
Bretonnia is getting monster buffs with its FLC and the tree niggers are getting their aggression reduced.
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>>169532751
This +they will make the welfs more campy

now the bretonnians will be the new cancer
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>>169532937
I second VC thing.
VCs are a pushover and lightning strike obliterates them.
>>169533026
Yea i know.
We will see how agressive will French be.
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>>169533036
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>>169533036
nice work
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>>169533036
is this fresh OC? nice
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>>169533036
I'M SPECIAL
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>>169533036
Good un
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>>169533036
>select goblin shaman
>he spergs out and makes weird noises
kek I love gobbos
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>>169533036
Nice

Do people have any more gobbo stuff?
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>>169533267
Yep, same guy who made this previous thread.

Might do a stuntie one next, but i've got G O B L I N S fresh on the mind.
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>>169533440
Nice, do as much fresh OC of what you want. You have some good skills.
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>>169533440
Do you have any of based warboss of 8 (eight) peaks?
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>>169533036
Draw Orion and tree asshole as nazis please.
For instance like this.
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>>169533036
GOBBOS!
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New thread when
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>>169533440
Draw a big horde of mushroomed-up night gobbos please
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>>169530753
A sengoku rance total war would actually be great
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>>169534925
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>>169531757
>tfw playing legendary empire

its a lot easier than you'd think. battles are tough but its all about positioning on the campaign map.

Also playing a losing battle can be worth it sometimes just to take out high value enemy targets
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>>169521318
what is this comic and where do i read more?
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Just finished my first campaign as VC with the short victory and I'm already hankering for my next run. What DLC faction is the most fun?
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>>169537421
Bretonnia
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>>169533036
>>169533440
fuggin nice
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