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>Regretted putting down summon sign during Return to Drangleic event:
>>169353015

>1.10 patch notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261608645322016043

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILER): https://my.mixtape.moe/ldkpad.webm

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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first for eleum loyce best sword
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What was his fucking problem?
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>>169396167
this thread now belongs to crab waifu
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Oh shit nigger, its a Gank boss consisting of False King Allant, Artorias, Fume Knight and Pontiff Sulyvahn

you have to choose 3 other bosses to fight with you

who is in your squad?
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>>169396341
that he's stuck in the most casual soulsgame
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>>169396167
Fuck that Peak. Only place in DaS2 where I had to use a guide.
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>>169396341
Nothing
He is /OURBOY/
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito, and the Pardoners of Velka.
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>>169396428
Ivory King
Twin Princes
Kalamet
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>>169396341
He's most likely a Tree/Corvian hybrid

and no one in Anor Londo like hybrids
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>>169396115
Godhood in DS seems pretty clear to me

It's whoever possessed a Lord Soul and their offspring. How far this goes in line of succession is not known. Perhaps if they were in-marrying within the range of the Lord Souls it was permanent and ever going like the Greek Gods?

(Remember Gwyn split his soul and gave it to loyal followers of his, thus ascending them to Godhood)
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>>169396428

Kalameet, Sinh, and Elana.
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>>169396514
>He fell for the Bamco marketing

You're naive if you think any other Souls games are hard
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>>169396428
I only need one:

Bed of chaos

none of them will manage the shitty mario mechanics and will plummet to their deaths.

but if I truly want hard mode I'll have Sinh and storm king covering everything in fire from the sky at the same time
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>>169396428
Ancient Wyvern
Bed of Chaos
Sinh

They can't kill Ancient Wyvern because no elevated terrain and they can't plunge attack. They can't kill Bed of Chaos because none of them are small enough to fit through the hole to kill the final bug. And none of them have aerial attacks so they can't hit Sinh most of the time.
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>>169396732
that doesn't change that of the bunch, dark souls 3 is clearly the most newbie friendly and casual

I call being invaded by a twink with a +15 weapon and pyromancy in undeadburg pretty hard
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>>169396769
can't believe that used to be a woman
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>>169396428
Yhorm the Giant to tank all four of them at once and occasionaly bring the machete down.
Dark Sun Gwyndolin for long-range magical support. Also I'm sticking close to him.
Manus to fist them all into submission while they're busy with the nearl-invincible giant
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>>169396798
>They can't kill Ancient Wyvern because no elevated terrain and they can't plunge attack

someone post the webm where someone managed to jump attack onto it's head from the bell immediately behind it.

also you can still damage the ancient wyvern, it just takes a while.
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>>169396895
>twinking was a good thing

fuck off /v/
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>>169396514
>>169396732
You both are really just fags, is the problem.
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>>169396979
>him
>not her (male)

you have one job anon
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>>169396428
Ancient Wyvern, Yhorm, and Vendrick
I'd just run around and let my nigh-invulnerable squad take care of things
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>>169397117
Fuck off ass-pirate
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>>169397153
>>169396798

>picking ancient wyvern which dies in one hit if you manage to land a hit on it's head from above
>a feat that the ashen one can accomplish with a jumping attack and the correct timing

>vs sullyvahn who literally has an attack where he flies up into the air about as far as you jump from if you do the puzzle

enjoy getting your roster reduced within the first few seconds
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>>169397306
Ancient Dragon it is, then.
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>>169397215
lurk more newfag
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>>169397423
Nice meme, Gwyndolinfaggots are still the worst
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>>169396428
Yharnam + kalameet to stunlock the over aggressive faggots

and then old dragon god to 1hk them with his van sized fists
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>>169397306
Theres also the fact that Ancient Wyvern takes fairly normal damage from lightning so you can kill him pretty hassle-free just spamming lightning spears at his head and body from a place he can't hit you very well.
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>>169397501
>he hasn't realized what ironic shitposting is yet

jesus just how new are you?
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>>169396428
Pontiff is a fucking shitty pick for 3, he's a joke
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>>169397720
>He still does ironic shitposting
>le new meme

/v/edditors never learn
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>>169397756
>pontiff
>shit

explain
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Alright, I was going to do the DaS2 event but then I remembered Adaptability exists so fuck that.

Bout to start my first ever playthrough of DaS1 instead, things I should know/need?
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>>169397905
Completely ignore the fact that the Resistance stat exists.
Also you have to buy the item box early on in the game before it becomes available for use.
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Why does Manus takes the CU back the past ? CU end up killing him
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>>169397835
He's not a hard boss, I get why people enjoy him, and he's and interesting boss, but he's not a hard one, he's even one that you can just parry like a bitch
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>>169397905
Download the mods, found in the OP pasta. This way you won't get invaded and have all your stats set to 1 or get instacursed or something. Don't forget to have fun.
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I just got summoned as a blue to Ariandel at SL40 +4
Does that mean people are hitting the DLC at around SL40, or people are hitting CotD around SL40?
I ask because if it's the latter, then I'm stupidly underleveled and that might explain why I've gotten exactly one invasion all day and not seeing any signs anywhere.
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did any of the dark souls 3 patches increase droprate of covenent items?
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>>169398053
Maybe you're one of the lucky few who don't find him hard

everyone's diffrent
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>>169398082
the dlc gets people in all sorts of level ranges, SL40 is about when you hit CotD, some people decide to run in and grab some DLC weapons early while others wait until they're 60-70 before going there.

but like the rest of the game you can just sprint and dodge past everything with impunity
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>>169398016
He senses the pendant you have and desperately wants it back.
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>>169394369
Reposting, I can lend a hand if you still need it.
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>>169398328
Oh yeah, thanks. I only played once through the DLC, and never finished the game, I got to Anal Rodeo, got the lord vessel, wandered a bit in the Duke's Archives, then stopped for some unknown reasons
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>>169398519
Oh thanks, but I already managed him on my own
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>>169398292
>SL40 is about when you hit CotD
Well then. I usually get there at around 25 and stay there until the Abyss Watchers/Catacombs.
Guess I better start grabbing some levels.
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How early do people with "review" copies get to play Ringed City? I know of a streamer I follow who had one of those special copies and was able to stream Ashes a week or two (?) before release.
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>>169398292
Pretty sure you should be 35 max for Cathedral. The rooftop areas are tedious, but as a whole it's well within the capability of SL30-ish players.
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>>169398016
To play the shitty games that suck ass.
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Need a new gimmick for my return to Drangleic. Give me something silly and fun that doesn't require grinding forever.
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>>169399038
Fist weapons
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>>169398679
High Wall and Undead settlement either nets people a lot of souls or barely any depending on how many times you have to repeat areas of it because of casul or autistic need to grind.
Crucifixion Woods isnt a really big farming hotspot because no one wants to farm giant crabs, Road of Sacrifices is rarely run through more than a single time.

From what I gather Highwall is 10-20, Settlement is 15-30, Crucifixion is 20-35, Farron Swamp\Keep is 25-40, Cathedral is 30-40.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDUnwfx0LNA

>das3 babies will try to deny this
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you know who this is? that's right, best waifu of the dark souls universe
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>>169399230
>memetubers

Stop shilling your garbage vids
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>>169398858
it's well within the capability of a SL1 if you have the dark hand

>>169399331
not an argument
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>>169399363
>not an argument

And? Still shit
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>>169399441
YOU ARE SHIT
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>>169399230
>june 17th 2016
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>>169399441
still not an argument
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>>169399441
If you don't provide an argument that is to my liking you automatically lose and prove me right
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>>169399519
>to my liking
kek ok, mr. e-celeb
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>>169399230
No one wants to play For Honor Scott.
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>"Nice moves, kid. You've trained well. My turn"
>teleports behind you
>"heh"
>unsheats bow
>"Playtime's over!"
>shoots a million istakill arrows that can outrun you
>"nothing personnel, kid"
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>das2
>okay
>invaded in wharf
>he keeps l1ing me
>he doesnt do anything
>go over
>two shots me with estoc
>does some shaking head emote

Hm.
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>>169399850
If there's one good thing about for honor is that the stance switching makes for very good taunt dances.

That and bullrush into pit memery.

i only watch yungmaestro vids though
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>>169399850
from what I've seen he hates for honor too
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>>169396428

Manus
Twin Princes
Nameless King
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>>169396912
The bug inside used to be a woman.
The tree is actually named KingIzalis in the game code, so it seems to be what's left of the father of the Daughters of Chaos, guarding what remains of the witch herself.
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I wish i knew miracles suck before investing 20 hours into a Paladin build.
Can i respec my stats in Dark Souls 3?
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>>169399927
just play on fucking console
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>>169400065
If you're a successful dickwraith, yes. Honestly, though, miracles have the strongest weapon buffs in the game so I'd make full use of it.
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>>169400000
what a fucking waste of a get
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How is the DS2 event? Im downloading it right now.
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>>169400000
Digits confirm best team.
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>>169399998
Because its not nearly as deep as everyone hyped it up to be.
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>>169396617
>It's whoever possessed a Lord Soul and their offspring.

That's not a guarantee by half. There are plenty of gods mysteriously disconnected or lacking a confirmed connection from Gwyn's bloodline like Old Man McLoyf, Velka, or Flame God Flann, and the other Lord Soul holders, the Witch of Izalith and Gravelord Nito, aren't treated as though they're gods.
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bird/tree pope has nice looking legs, if you don't mind the rotting look
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>>169400136
Its a shame Spears, Stake and Wrath are a fucking joke.
>Spend a majority of your focus to do like 25% of a difficult monsters health in damage.

waow
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why is farron memesword so fucking shit?

why does from hate fun?

it's a UGS that does below greatsword damage and has no unparriable attacks

I just want to be a flippy edgelord god damnit
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>>169400315
They decided that fun was unbalanced in PvP so they removed it.
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Crystal Estoc +10 for a melee weapon on a sorcerer any good?

I was trying different things out and I thought it was okay. I have 30 int, 18 dex, 13 strength. I am only level 60 but I dont want to mess up and go over to high of level where I cant play with friends anymore
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>>169400000
Glory to Manus.
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>>169400212
who is dumb enough to believe hype in this day and age?

I got a little excited when I saw that they included halfswording but then immediately lost my boner when vikings where just dumb barbarians in bare chests and katanas cut through plate armor.
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>>169396167
How does the return to dranglic work? Are we supposed to play new characters?

Whats the ideal Soul Memory to aim for these days?
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>beat the first boss by rolling the shit out of him and hitting him on the back
>carried to a new area by the raven
>walk around
>level up some stats
>get to a graveyard
>2 skeletons spawn and kill me in 3 hits
>die to them 10 times
>give up on that area
>walk to the left by climbing the stairs and get to some undead shitters
>kill them and go back to heal
>kill them again
>repeat that till I level up sufficiently
>go back to the skeletons
>kill them
>a giant skeleton spawns and kills me
>die several times
>finish kill skeleton in the graveyard
>there's fucking nothing there in the end
>go back the other way and kill the undeads
>get to some undead city
>kill more of them
>get to a spawn point
>find a shop
>grind the shit out of the bullshit undeads and kill the black knight with a bow and arrow to get chainmail armour and shit
>get to a taurus boss
>he kills me immediately
>get fed up with cannon fodder and decide to run directly to the boss from the spawn point
>it works
wtf guys? I have mixed feelings about this game. You can beat literally anyone by rolling and that's pretty fucking bland. Everyone calls this revolutionary?
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>>169400000
Them some nice digits son.
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>>169400594
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Just started DaS2. Should I pump into ADP since I get more iframes?
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>>169399998
>hates game
>continues to make tons of content for it

Did the same thing for 3 and I don't understand why.
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>>169396428
Ancient Dragon
Manus
Velstadt

Manus beats Artorias easily
Velstadt beats Fume Knight in canon
Ancient Dragon one-shots everything anyway
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>>169400594
>he thinks hes people cus hes still in the first area

Play for more than 30 minutes before you complain here
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>>169400765
if ur bad lol
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>>169400546
>who is dumb enough to believe hype in this day and age?
A majority of people who play video games, what stupid question.
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>>169400315
Miracles besides Dorhy's Gnawing all kinda suck until you get 60 faith, a good upgraded talisman (like saints), both miracle boosting rings, and possibly the lightning clutch ring.

Then they are good, but you don't get all of that shit until the games like 70% over.
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>>169400594
the fact that you died so many times to the skeletons before getting the hint is fucking sad, Tbh
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>>169400486
It's not bad. If you want to stick with rapiers you might look into the Sage rapier. If you just want a sword for a backup the longsword, shortsword, and the lothric knight sword are all fine swords and take crystal infusions well.
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Any decent troll builds for return?
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>>169400765
ADP is like resistance in 1, its a meme, youre being memed.
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>>169400781
Every (you) he gets in a video generates money
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>>169400930
Pate's spear my friend.
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>>169400904
>tfw actually refunded the game because of the skeletons
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>>169400781
Shills need views for their ad revenue. If it's a new and/or popular game, they'll also try to create name brand recognition out of it.
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>>169400765
at the minimum make sure you have 86 agility

it affects backsteps differently however, they get iframes on different breakpoints and so on
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>>169400930
estoc/rapier/espada ropera
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>>169400930
dual poison whips my friend
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>>169400803
I grinded that area for hours on my first playthrough
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>>169401125
flynn & rob?
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>>169400575
Plz
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pcds2fcbf
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Someone had posted a sorcery scroll icon a couple threads back and I noticed something. Was it better resolution than this one? Has anyone tried to cipher it? I clearly see a pattern here
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>>169401404
No.
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>das2 event
>this will be chill
>constant invades in foftg by twinks
>get through it somehow
>boom constant invades in heides by twinks

Some event

I dont know how much more of this i can take
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Reminder to enlist in Way of Blue to aid against RtD twinkfags.
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>>169401617
You're on the wrong side of it, idiot. Revival events are all about your chance to kill and torture newfags
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>>169401679
IF one of those retards do get summoned they either get themself killed or kill themselves somehow, it sucks ASS.
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>>169401789
You make it sound so edgy
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i'm buying a laptop soon for work purposes, but i also really want to replay dark souls 1 cause it's been years. does anyone have any experience with running it on a laptop? i'm trying to find one for fairly cheap (is <$200 realistic?) and i know it was terribly optimized but i mean it's a game from 2011, surely i don't have to buy a top of the line gaming laptop for it. please note that building a gaming desktop pc isn't in the cards right now, and i need a laptop for work purposes but i just wanna play some dang ole dark souls man
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>>169401876
you dont know what edge is
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>>169401558
There's nothing to decipher. It's just a tiling pattern of random symbols.
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>>169401841
Not me.
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>>169401926
>laptop
>gaming
no you fucking retard PCuck
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>>169402019
Heheheheh..
*unsheathes dark washing pole*
Is that what you think, kiddo..?
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>>169401926

note that i have done some research on it and found some that meet the requirements on processing power, but of course with a laptop my main concern is the video card. i don't need to run it at 60fps 1080p or anything, just stable framerate is all i ask for
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>>169396167
What are strong builds in ds2?

Is rob flyn or dark magic and faith still the best?
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>>169402124
*unsheathes 2kat dark washing pole*
Korede sayonara
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>>169402067

well ya see the thing is my crusty old ps3 no longer reads discs and for whatever dumbfuck reason dark souls 1 is the only souls game you can't digitally purchase
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>>169402214
if you actually done research you would know not to use a laptop for gaming retard PCuck kys
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>>169401558
It was this. I reckon there's not much to decipher here. They probably had some intern do a bunch of random patterns/symbols instead of inventing a proper new script or basing one on an ancient one.
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>>169402474
Also miracle scroll for anyone interested.
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>>169396428
3 Giant Dads.
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>>169402635

hey while we're posting cool lore things here's the reconstructed altar of sunlight statue i.e. what nameless king looked like back in the day
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>>169396167
Just finished farming for my darkmoon ring and darkmoon blade if anyone is interested in doing some Vicar events
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>>169402860
He got a lot more /fit/ as the years went by
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>>169402904
>interested in doing old reddit gank squads events
fuck off retard
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Just finished downloading some drivers for my new card.
It comes with a program to record video, should I become a dicksucking mememancer and record my cosplay invasions now?
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>>169402947

probably actually got exiled for never getting a goddamn haircut
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>>169402860

Is it explained why he's a skeleton in DS3?

Did he link the fire?
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>>169402947
Do you reckon he is natty?
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>>169403148
DS3 is implied to be many, many, many cycles ahead of DS1. He's just crusty and old after chilling out on his mountain for several eons.
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>>169403148

if he did, he'd be a lord of cinder right?

i take it more as evidence that the god race can in fact go hollow eventually, returning to the state they were in before the lord souls were found. i mean, he looks like gwyn in the kiln basically
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CAW CAW

post your fashion
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>>169400928
Why do people shill the lothric knight sword?
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>>169403638
The estoc is way better. I am not sure.
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>>169400224
>>169400224
>Light Soul
Gwyn split his soul and those that received parts of it became Gods.
>Dark Soul
Pygmy split its soul and those that recieved parts of it became Humanity.

I don't recall much on Izalith, but people prayed and worshiped Nito, and you can pray and worship Nito.

They possessed Lord Souls, so that counts for something.
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>>169396514
That's not dark souls 2
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>>169400224
>>169404365
Oh and the indirect connections are the fact that it takes place over the course over a great span of time so people are being born during that from other Gods.
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>>169396732
>This meme again
Souls games are hard compared to most games these days and most people find them hard, thus they are considered hard. Things like this are decided by consensus and comparison, not your subjective opinion.
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>>169404365
>>Light Soul
>Gwyn split his soul and those that received parts of it became Gods.
>>Dark Soul
>Pygmy split its soul and those that recieved parts of it became Humanity.
This seems so fucking obvious why didn't I notice this before, like what is my brain even doing. It's a DIRECT fucking parallel
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>these SofFS NPC invaders that are programmed to be as annoying as possible
I don't know how to feel about this

>>169404365
But Gwyn only split his soul to leave a shard with Seath and another with the Kings of Anor Londo before he went on pilgrimage to the Kiln. He didn't make confetti out of it like the Pygmy did.
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>>169404661
>He didn't make confetti out of it like the Pygmy did.
He did, Dark Souls 1 directly states that he imparted all his followers that were loyal a part of his soul
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>>169404376
>dark souls 2
>casual

>the game where if you dont look up a guide to realize that agility affects your iframes you'll go through the game with 5 iframes

>the game where estus are so fucking slow you could pull of a charged ultra r2 in das 3 in the same time

>the game where roll punishing is the easiest in the entire series

okay
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>>169404661
>I don't know how to feel about this
It's one of the best additions from Dark Souls 2, NPC invaders feel like actual people invading you
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>>169404365
>Gwyn split his soul and those that received parts of it became Gods.
Blatantly false.

The Four Knights were not gods. Neither were the Four Kings or Seath (the latter obtained his immortality on his own).

And there are a shitload of other gods out there who didn't get a shard of Gwyn's soul.
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>>169404817
That doesn't change the fact that enemies and bosses are the easier in the series. I steam rolled the entire game just spamming R1 with a Rapier. It's funny that the game is so easy even when the developers tried so hard to make it difficult
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>>169403938
>>169403638
bump
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>>169404806
Where is that stated? He imparted shards to the Four Kings and to Seath, that much is known. Where is it said that he gave any shard to others? And why don't we go chase THOSE people to feed those shards to the Lordvessel?
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>>169404661
>He didn't make confetti out of it like the Pygmy did.
He did

He did it twice, even

He gave it to them as a reward for being loyal, and then he did it again when he went to the kiln for the last time
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>>169404958
and you can likewise steamroll DaS3 r1 spamming a straight sword

the difference is that in DaS3 you get infinite super good rolls right out the gate with no downsides
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>>169404817
Adaptability is a two edged sword because once you level that up to 30+ the game becames a absolute joke due to the amount of i-frames that you char gets. And about the combat being slower, it's okay because enemies and bosses are also slower
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>>169404970
>>169404905
It's not false, he does it twice. He did it as a reward as mentioned here >>169405004
(I'll look for the in-game text)
And he gave it to them here
>Armor of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder, who linked the First Flame.
Lord Gwyn, bearer of the ultimate soul, divided that power among his clan before linking the flame. When he departed, he left only with his greatsword, his garb, and the crown, now bereft of power. He kept his crown perhaps to preserve a symbol of the monarch, for its actual power had fully subsided.
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>>169404832
Yeah, but at the same time you know they aren't real people so it's not as satisfying when you kill them and the whole thing just feels fake. Although it's probably just a mindset though.
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>>169405054
>and you can likewise steamroll DaS3 r1 spamming a straight sword
Except you can't.

Proof: I tried and got destroyed, Dark Souls 3 and 1 actually punish R1 spam much better than 2.
>the difference is that in DaS3 you get infinite super good rolls
Like the other guy said, everything in Dark Souls 2 is slower, including the enemies, so once you level adaptability the game becomes a joke. Btw, having your i-frames tied to a status was a retarded idea since it literally forced people to level up that status regardless of their build.
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>>169404817
>>169405113
>the game where if you dont look up a guide to realize that agility affects your iframes you'll go through the game with 5 iframes
So the game is way too hard when you don't understand it and way too easy when you do understand it

How is this a good thing for anybody?
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>>169405136
Same text again, I'll have to look hard to find where it said he gave his loyal followers part of himself, but again another phrasing of that text for the second time he did it
> Soul of Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight
and Cinder, who linked the First Flame.
Lord Gwyn bequeathed most of his power to the
Gods, and burned as cinder for the First
Flame, but even so, Lord Gwyn's soul
is a powerful thing indeed.
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>>169396428
oceiros with a greatshield stapled to his forehead
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>>169405368
It isn't. Anyone who played all games in the series know that Dark Souls II is the easiest and worst.

The DLCs are the exception, since they are both good and challenging.
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You, you. Give me, warm. Give me, soft.
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does this place still have fcs
or have the shitposters taken over
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>>169405392
Hmmm, that's actually quite interesting. While you can make the case that Seath could be granted the title of God of Sorcery, I really don't think the kings of New Londo are referred as gods anywhere.
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ok so explain me this

look at all those human like bosses in dark/demon souls that are fucking top tier

False King Allant, Ornstein ans Smough, Artorias, Fume Knight, Burnt Ivory King, Abyss Watchers. Sulyvahn, Friede etc. All these fags have magical justification for kicking ungodly amounts of ass:(Allant is a demon, Fume knight was given power from a demon, Sulyvahn is a Bird/tree sorceror pope etc.)

So why. Oh god fucking WHY does CHAMPION FUCKING GUNDYR kick so much UNDGODLY amount of ASS, when his only power is spinning his halberd for red eyes.

I know he can be parried, but I never parry bosses because I want a challenge
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>>169405362
>Proof: I tried and got destroyed

so you're an absolute and complete shitter?

out of all my character, quality build, dex build, strenght build, sorcery build, pyro build, luck build and even a faith (lol) build

by far the easiest playstyle in dark souls 3 is r1 spamming with a dark sword or other fast weapon, the game punishes flashy moves, it rewards spacing and being able to deal damage quickly.

>so once you level adaptability the game becomes a joke.

you need 105 agility to just match DaS3 rolls, that is a pretty heavy stat investment.
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>>169405624
We were shitposters all along.
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>>169405054
>>169404958
What I will say is obviously my personal experience with each game, but for me Dark Souls 2 was by far the easiest. I killed every boss with only up to one or three tries, except for Throne watchers and Smelter Demon, which were harder.
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>>169405770
Champion Gundyr is basically the boss version of a souls protagonist. He was the Chosen Undead equivalent of the last cycle, except he arrived late and Ludleth had to take his place.
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>>169405624
nope PCucks ruined the general and anything they touch because they have the majority nowadays
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>>169405624
We just had a FC last night.
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>>169405959
>implying PC hasn't always had the highest amount of fightclubs

booty bothered sony pony detected
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>>169405959
You're quite oblivious aren't you.
Have a (you) for your continued efforts.
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>>169405624
pcfcs frequently
consoles however...
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>>169406045
>>169406046
see look how quick these PCuck kids responded mad af
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>>169405624
I think most people are busy with the das2 event instead of playing shitsouls3
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>>169405775
>so you're an absolute and complete shitter?
Tell me, how do you kill Lothric, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, Aldrich, Dancer or Sulyvan with R1 spam?

>you need 105 agility to just match DaS3 rolls, that is a pretty heavy stat investment.
That's a unfair comparison because like i said, dark souls 2 as a whole is a slower game, thus you don't need the same amount of i-frames and speed as in Dark Souls 3, which is much faster.

The biggest reason why 3 is harder is because of how the bosses and level design work compared to 2, regarding their concepts and movesets. It was the only game that I barely died in my playthrough and the only area that gave me a hard time at all was Shrine of Amana, whereas none of the bosses were challenging.

The DLC changed that and indeed has some of the most challenging bosses in the series, but the vanilla game is a joke.
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>>169406125
host a fc and we'll show these PCucks how it's done
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>>169406161
>People are busy with this game that's inferior in almost every way instead of playing its much better sequel
No wonder this general is shit these days
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Would anyone be willing to drop me a Dark Hand? Im starting a Fistomancer build and I want to start punching as soon and as much as possible.
Ps4, high wall, pass: fist
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>>169405619
yu, yu, giv us smood
yes, you, giv us silkee
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>>169406245
>Tell me, how do you kill Lothric, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, Aldrich, Dancer or Sulyvan with R1 spam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0WlFd7vHtk

by acquiring profeciency
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>>169406476
>This video
>R1 spam
What this guy is doing is literally the opposite of spamming
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>>169406245
>thus you don't need the same amount of i-frames and speed as in Dark Souls 3

actually you need more than das 3 because das 2 rolling animation hitbox is retarded and doesn't follow your character, you're stuck where you rolled from and will be hit if you aren't invulnerable.
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>haven't been summoned all event so far
>finally get summoned right before I have to go to work
fuck me
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>>169402982
But it wasnt a reddit event
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>>169406580
he also isn't dodging
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>>169406161
Why no das2 FC?
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>>169406723
I know, but he's basically doing a similar thing, which is avoiding the attacks of the boss and waiting for a an opening to attack. Although impressive, it's basically the same as rolling, only in a different and harder way.
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>>169406245
>farmed over 100 desert sluts and they didn't drop even one pair of high heels

well fuck this shit, post what character and SL you plan on going through ringed city as first

SL80

Dark sword still too stronk even after the nerf
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>>169406706
>bloodshades originated from reddit because a washed up souls jewtuber wanted more attention
>its been proven PCucks who browse here also browse reddit
>PCucks here make a counter reddit ganksquad thats higher in level
>promotes it here and also in reddit, several also join bloodshades discords and posting their reaction here and on reddit
>meanwhile consoles are ignoring the cancer, literally no console players did the reddit event
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>>169406723
>moving in the correct position to evade the attacks doesn't constitute dodging
Alright boss.
Let's just end this charade already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EhLeSi0QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYNv99FKeD0
Welp, guess all games in this series are shit, why does this general even exist again
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When we will stop fighting over which Souls game is best or worst? Can we agree that they are all good?
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>>169406968
>Welp, guess all games in this series are shit, why does this general even exist again

took you long enough to realize that the dark souls games are hard thing is a meme, especially when greatshields exist in all the games
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>>169407038
Such is the eternal mandate of the shitposting sun.
Seriously though, I think Souls games have spoiled me terribly on the standards for these sorts of games. I haven't played any other action games in a while and looking back on videos for boss fights from a couple games it's apalling how dull it all is when compared to these.
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HUMAN.
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>>169406968
>>169407063
I know that you're just shitposting but
>Let me post this person that fighted against this bosses over a hundred of times to learn their entire moveset and attack pattern
>Yeah, that will prove that the game is easy
Sure.
>>169407063
Souls games are hard because they heavily punish your errors and carelessness, unlike most games. Even with Shield you have to look out for stamina management and most bosses and enemies have ways to punish players who just stand behind a shield.
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>>169407038
as long as PCucks remind here, no
>bunch of PCucks who first game was dark souls 2 are butthurt people bashed on it hard and so shitpost about dark souls 3 because its their second souls game and is vastly different
>people whose first souls game was 3 keep shitting on 2 because its the bandwagon thing to do even though dark souls 2 is a decent game with some highlights, but they just cant shut the fuck up about it long after people have accepted its faults
PCucks only have those 2 games, they cant play dark souls 1 bc of GFWL and they don't have bloodborne and demons souls, and never ever will
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>>169407038
never because some people hate Dark souls 2 with a fiery passion instead of acception it for what it is

Dark souls: Kings fields edition

also Dark souls 3 killed casters by giving them 3 mandatory rings and anyone who thinks ashen estus was a buff needs to be reapply for elementary school math.

sadly most fun things being removed are a direct result of the very strict anti invader sentiment that started in DaS2 and went full retard in DaS3, which sucks because in their attempt to protect the babbies from twinks they also ruined the viability of a lot of things for pve.

serious why did they include the twinkling dragon stones if they where gonna be so fucking shit?
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>>169407317
Cue the chorus
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why do so many bosses fight with no shoes on and/or wearing masks of some sort?
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>>169405770
People don't just call you a champion for nothing Anon, he was a badass before he decided to take a nap with his scented candles.
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>>169407342
>Souls games are hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbR7MYGPR6c

you're a funny guy
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>>169407474
Human faces are notoriously complex to render satisfactorily, unlike, say, a dragon's.
>no shoes
Miyazaki is a footfag.
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>>169407393
Hey man thats cool and all, you wanna reel in the pretend /v/ trolling stuff just a bit.
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>>169407393
>GFWL
what?
>PCucks can't play Dark Souls 1
WHAT?
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>>169406474
I really hope his armor makes it in somehow
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>>169406943
the guy who came up with the idea was on ps4

he ganked with pointdownlegion2
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>>169407265
> I haven't played any other action games in a while and looking back on videos for boss fights from a couple games it's apalling how dull it all is when compared to these.
I think that Souls games are different from standard action games, like DMC or Ninja Gaiden, they are more like slow paced action RPGs.

But I share your sentiment, Souls games spoiled me in terms of combat.
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Sorry if this was obvious, I only just started Dark Souls.

I have a theory on what the Darksign is. I think it's kinda obvious too.

It was in fact created by Gwyn, on purpose. Not an accident like it's speculated in some places. Why exactly? All about the First Flame.

It's his attempt at SEALING humanity. It's the Dark Soul wreathed in flame. Trapping it.

This is why when you die, you resurrect. Your soul is literally trapped in your body. But only to extent due to its connection with fire, you're being siphoned.

And as you die further, it takes you to the bonfire thus feeding it with your Dark Soul. It was Gwyn turning humans into batteries.

And why does the curse end when you ignite the first flame? Well...it's reignited so you don't need batteries anymore...for a time.
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>>169407603
Everythings already been datamined though hasnt it? I dont know how the preview builds work in their entirety or if they add stuff later.
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>>169407393
you do realize that dark souls 1 came out for PC too right?

also

>implying the DeS scene isn't deader than gwyndolin in 3

Playstation 3s cost chump change now a day, but you faggots never like it when people who've played all the souls games point out that Dark souls 3 is deeply flawed.
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>>169407679
but the darksign affects everyone, not just humans

Gwyn is a batshin insane hollow when you meat him
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Who here /skippedDSII/?
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DEAR "RIN" FROM DARK SOULS 3

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SEED FINGER GANK SQUAD

WE ALDRICH FAITHFUL JUST WANT A FAIR FIGHT

GET THE -FUCK- OUT

I KNOW YOURE FUCKING HERE GIGGLING WITH YOUR BUTTBUDDIES
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>>169407679
alright so here's the quick run down

fire brought disparity, life and death, all that good shit.
prior to fire the only things around where just immortal stone dragons, who weren't really alive or dead, they where stone and they just existed

when the fire starts going out, life and death stop working right.
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>>169407546
They are compared to most games these days, being because of how heavy the enemies hit, because it punishes carelessness, because it has no hand holding or because of how the checkpoints work.

Your subjective opinion doesn't decide whether a game is hard or not, consensus does. By stating that Souls games are easy, you're just saying that the vast majority of players are bad, whereas you are a pro and even if that is true, it still doesn't disprove that the games are hard, it just proves that they are hard for most people, but easy for you, which I doubt they are anyway.

Btw, I'll not watch this video, if you want to get your opinion across explain or reasoning instead of using meme videos.
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>>169407740
>Everythings already been datamined though hasnt it? I dont know how the preview builds work in their entirety or if they add stuff later.
I might be wrong but they can change data in the game to become other sets sort of like how burial set became Vilhem's. Its more wishful thinking on my part to want it in the game
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>>169407393
>PCucks can't play DS1
>this is what Sonyggers actually believe

I always knew you guys were retarded but holy shit.
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>>169407978
Aldrich Faithful invasions are such a dramatic waste of time, so many people troll them or just gank them.
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>>169407741
>>169407596
>>169407581
>>169408113
>PCucks in charge of reading
prove me wrong then
>PCucks cant play dark souls 1 because GFWL and also because the game is literally unplayable without dsfix and even then the game is still more broken than consoles
>PCuck versions are all deader than dead and the few 2 people are on are all hackers
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>>169408113
Can you guys stop replying to someone who's just blatantly trolling or does this somehow boost your ego to argue with actual baitposting.

Holy fucking shit, just stop.
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>>169406431
Still begging, if there's any interest.
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>>169407978
>WE ALDRICH FAITHFUL
>goo worshipper
>frogposter
You deserve everything thrown at you
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>>169408234
>just stop responding because we PCucks literally cant disprove anything he says
kill yourself
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>>169396167
Is crystal estoc better than crystal knight sword for a sorcerer's melee weapon?
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>>169408219
>GFWL

there you again

what the fuck are talking about here?

>>169408234
sorry, can't, doctors orders
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>two-handed R1s don't combo into each other
>no perseverance on casting

Any Heysel Pick type combo's with this thing?
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>>169408219
>dsfix making the game objectively better than console versions means PCucks are getting the short end of the stick
Nigger what
>GFWL
What the fuck is this
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>I played all games in the series for over 2000 hours, therefore, I came to the conclusion that they are easy now because I learned all the level design, mechanics, tricks and attack patterns of the game
I know that Souls difficulty became a meme, the game isn't THAT hard and you want to be contrarian, but pretending that's easy is even more retarded.
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>>169408219
HE STILL THINKS DS1 PC HAS GFWL

EVERYONE LAUGH AT HIM

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>169408485
>>169408448
>>169407596
He's talking about Games for Windows Live. Which is completely fucking irrelevant because it hasn't been a thing for three years now.
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>>169407038
The only argument I can actually see is if 2 or Demon Souls is the worst game in the series.

2 can be last because it actually just isn't fun in the slightest, shit boss fights, shit enemies, shit level design.
DeS just unfortunately has all its mechanics improved in the following games, though personally I much preferred the mana mechanic even if it did just making cheesing some stuff easier.

Beyond that 1 > BB > 3 are pretty clear top 3.
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>>169408423
>Japs literally incapable of making PC ports due to below average PC literacy
>somehow PCuck fault

wew
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>>169396428

Manus, Kalameet Orphan of Kos
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>>169408485
>replying to bait
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>>169408290
>>169408121
seriously what is WITH these fucker hosts being so powerful?

it was pretty balanced over the week. either 1 v 1 blanaced fights or multiple v multiple that was never ganging up

now its saturday, and all the troll hosts come out and gank squads

really makes you think........
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>>169396428
Ancient Dragon
Yhorm
Bed of Chaos
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>>169396218
Loyce Greatsword, nigger.
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>>169408612
>>169408578
>REPLYING TO BAIT
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>>169408671
>implying I have anything better to do while I wait for Dorkmoon summons

Fuck this covenant holy shit
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>>169407834
Hollow = no soul
Not Darksign

Though hollowing CAN be because of Darksign

Darksign is dying and resurrecting because...reasons.
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So how much new shit have we found out about the DLC since the trailer?
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How's the Return to Drangleic going? I should really hop on a rock and roll.
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>>169408879
Yeah but it shits up the thread
>>169408715
Host is usually wearing the white phantom ring, host is more often than not some 200+ ultranigger wearing a dark ring. Attack the white phantom and watch them go into full panic mode.
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>>169407834

Darksign only affects humans.

Hollow =/ undead
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>>169408671
>>169408805

its good bait
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Is crystal estoc better than crystal knight sword for a sorcerer's melee weapon?
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>>169408627
I agree with almost everything you said, except for the implication that DeS isn't leagues above Dark Souls II. It's true that DeS mechanics and structure was improved in the following games, however, it still has stellar level design, is full of unique and creative boss battles and has top-tier atmosphere, unlike Dark Souls II, which has generic bosses, levels that are nothing but shitty hallways with branches that only lead to dead ends and shit-tier atmosphere compared to any of the games in the series.

But I do have to agree that
>Beyond that 1 > BB > 3 are pretty clear top 3.
You have God-tier taste anon
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>>169408030
> because it has no hand holding or because of how the checkpoints work.

lmao

in Dark souls 1 and Demon souls you might have a point about checkpoints but seriously now

Dark souls 2 had a bunch of bonfires, but it had nowhere near the metric fuckton of pointless bonfires that 3 has

what is the point of having the Farron keep perimeter bonfire? it takes like what, 15 seconds to sprint there from farron keep and you can easily run past all the enemies and continue running past them all the way to the boss, if you tried that shit in DeS you'd get your shit pushed so far back in you could taste it.

or the water reserve bonfire, sprinting through the dark room is so laughably easy that you dont even need to hit the roll button.

or the foot of the high wall bonfire being rendered completely pointless 5 seconds later by the undead settlement.

atleast in 2 you usually had to fight the enemies throughout most of the game because you didn't start with super good rolls with very fast recover for close to no stamina cost

not to mention estus are so fast in 3 its not even funny, if you're invading and not using a 1 shot build, you will never kill the host, especially if he has phantoms (unless they are incredibly incompetent)

in 2 if you try to do 1 roll away from an enemy and estus you will get your guts spilled as you slowly lift it up to sippy, even if you manage to pull it off it wont heal you instantly.

as for the video it was just onlyafro summoning phantoms and literally walking around the boss arena while they win the fight for him.

which brings me to the final point: If you wanted to be human form in dark souls 1 or demon souls it was a big deal, which put a risk to getting summons

in 3 you can just pop the ember at the boss door, no risk, summon all you want and if no one is there and you get invaded, walk through fog gate and homeward bone your way out.

atleast in 2 they did the right thing by making it so you could always get invaded.
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>>169408131
>roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll

Bloodborne was a mistake
Fuck Dark Souls 3
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>>169409225
stale bait, you blew your load with GFWL
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>all this constant invasions on bellfaggots
This is great, i already have all my main weapons on +9 and i havent even defeated the first major boss.
I had to take the ring off just to have enough time to talk to the blacksmith.
We should make a "Return to Lordran" after this.
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Do Maces still do increased damaged to armored enemies like it did in DaS2? I haven't actually tried it but in DaS2 I always had a mace or club around for turtle knights and the like. Fucked them up.
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>>169408219
>PCucks cant play dark souls 1 because GFWL
Lol...what....do you really think DS1 on PC has no internet service?

Really?
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>>169409326
We already have a Return to Lordran every year. That's where Return to Drangleic came from.
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>>169409337
yep mace still wrecks everything in heide
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>>169408219
>PCucks cant play dark souls 1 because GFWL
Wrong. It works online just fine.
>the game is literally unplayable without dsfix and even then the game is still more broken than consoles
Wrong on both counts.
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>>169409337
Armored enemies generally have less strike absorption resulting in more damage, yes.
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How much int and faith do i need for a pyro build?
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>>169409105
>what is the point of having the Farron keep perimeter bonfire?
Practicality. We had this discussion last threat. Every boss needs a nearby bonfire because the boss is supposed to be a challenging encounter that warrants all the player's attention and resources. If you do not believe that to be the case, I may as well ask you, why have ANY bonfires through the level? Just do it in one go if you're good enough.

>or the foot of the high wall bonfire being rendered completely pointless 5 seconds later by the undead settlement.
To prevent an unecessary cutscene and loading screen as you make your way down the high wall?

Complaints about excessive bonfires in 3 only make sense if you point out a sequence of gameplay that said bonfire cuts in two, and which would be improved by not having it. Removing Farron Keep perimeter does NOTHING but make the wlakback to the Abyss Watchers longer. That is simply padding. Removing the Wolnir/Undead Settlement bonfire does NOTHING but make the player have to go through an empty tunnel with no enemies, and go through an extra cutscene in case he dies to the dogs before the gate. Is that your idea of improving the game?
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>>169409337
No, it's not anywhere near as significant as it was in DaS2. Strike weapons also tend to have less AR.
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>>169409072

Estoc. Less Dex needed.
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>>169409564
none
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>>169409472
I meant do they still do that in DaS3? Sorry if I worded it poorly
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>>169408257
Sure let me fire up my playstation.
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>>169396167
How long does the Dark Souls 2 event last fuckbois?
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>>169409575
Perimeter bonfire is a crossroads bonfire for Crucifixion woods, but I feel its redundant as well.
You could use the one in Farron Keep near the Abyss Watchers gate just fine, you would just have to walk past the praying Corvians again.

I like 3 a lot but I think there are too many convenient bonfires.
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>>169409717
read it again
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>>169409763
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>this one sperg keeps clamoring about How PC's suck
>while posting on his PC

Holy shit did you get banned on /v/ or something?
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>>169409948
just filter him
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>>169409717
Many thanks!
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>>169408461
R1 into Lifehunt Scythe or lightning stake?
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>>169409865
What SM do most stop at in ds2 end game? Its abouy 1.8-2.5 million right?
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>>169409105
>Dark souls 2 had a bunch of bonfires, but it had nowhere near the metric fuckton of pointless bonfires that 3 has
>This retardation again
First, bosses bonfires and bonfires at the start of each level are literally irrelevant in Dark Souls 3, they don't affect how the level design works or the overall feel of your deaths, thus mentioning them is almost pointless since it bears no significance to making the game easier.

Second, High Wall has only two bonfires if you don't count the bosses bonfires and that area is at least as big as florest of the giant and Lost Bastile from Dark Souls II, which both have up to five bonfires. Irithyll dungeon has two bonfires if you don't count Yhorm one and that area is at least twice the size of Drangleic Castle, which has five bonfires. If you don't count boss bonfires Lothric Castle only has three and It only uses one bonfire for the entirety of Grand Archives and that area is even bigger than Earthen Peak, which has four bonfires. Cathedral of the Deep has only three and is bigger than Lost Bastile, which has five, or Heide that's extremely small but has three as well. I could go on, but you got the point;

Last but not least, even if three had that many bonfires like you are implying, it still wouldn't change what I said, as the game would still be more punishing in terms of checkpoints than 99% of games these days.

The rest of your post is basically ''bla bla bla bonfire'', which is answered in what I said above, or ''bla bla 2 did better'', which isn't true because 2 is worst than three in every aspect that matters. But that wasn't even my point, you are the one trying to turn this discussion into 2 vs 3 shit.

Btw, tone down your cancerous reddit spacing.
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>>169409575
> I may as well ask you, why have ANY bonfires through the level?

that's what demon's souls did

>Every boss needs a nearby bonfire

no they fucking dont.

>Removing Farron Keep perimeter does NOTHING but make the wlakback to the Abyss Watchers longer.

next you'll tell me you think it was a great idea that the final bonfire to soul of cinder is just a straight walk.

that shit did not fly in DaS1 and DeS, you have to earn the right to fight the final boss, which added to the tension.

fighting the soul of cinder has no tension, you aren't losing anything if you fuck up
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why is every npc a filthy liar?
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>already gave up on SOTFS twice in recent months
>new big event happening

I'm trying hard to like this game but the combat is so clunky. Maybe I went with not-so-fun builds. 1st build I was a Strength user. Second I was a Hexer. What's the most fun build you can think of? Maybe those other builds are innately slow.
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Is anyone even using the Name Engraved Ring? I see more summon signs without it than with it equiped.
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>>169409814
>I like 3 a lot but I think there are too many convenient bonfires.
You are right, of course, but my problem with all these discussions is that people always complain about a bonfire that is there either obviously to serve as a boss fight tether, or bonfires sitting in transition areas where there's no meaningful challenge that end up close to one another and decrying that as proof that 3 offers you a bonfire every two feet and as a result that makes it a casual game.

Hell, if the corridor between defeating Wolnir and reaching the Irithyll bridge had fifty bonfires neatly arranged side by side that would not compromise the challenge of the game at all, it would simply make the warp UI cluttered.

>>169410278
>no they fucking dont.
Yes they absolutely do. Walking for four minutes to reach Gwyn, Lord of Cinder does not add to the tension and the challenge, it does not make the player more invested, it takes you out of the entire experience of what would be a cool fight you're trying to learn because you realize you have to make your way through a vast expanse of empty terrain with just a handful of Black Knights every time.

Might as well lock the boss wall down on a timer until you are allowed to cross it again.

I already earned the right to fight the goddamn boss by crossing the level leading up to it and unlocking the appropriate shortcuts. Is that not what those things are for? Are shortcuts casual now?
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well im stuck on dancer of the boreal valley. Im sl 75 and have a +8 broadsword. Got wrecked easily 20 times and cant get past the second phase at all.
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>>169410387
Try thrusting swords.
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Time to rev up DaS2. Get myself the Rogue set, a long sword and a mace and get to it.
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>>169410579

You have to learn when to get your hits in during phase 2. I usually just bait out the super twirly move or the one where she jumps into the air, slams, then twirls.
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>>169409814
>>169409105
The ONLY area with overabundance of bonfires in Dark Souls III is Road of sacrifices/Farron Keep, the rest of the areas have very few bonfires if you disregard boss bonfires, which again, have no relevance whatsoever to the level design, they are just there to make you warp to Firelink and spend your Souls after killing the boss. Most areas in Dark Souls 3 are very large but only use two or one bonfire and you can only acess said bonfires later on by using shortcuts.

Anyone who thinks that 3 is worse than 2 in terms of bonfire don't know how to analyze things objectively and only thinks that way because of boss bonfires.
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>tfw still need to get the "All Rare Weapons" achievement in DS1, but I haven't played on my achievement run character in ages and have no idea where I was at with it
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>l1 spamming some guy with paired weps
>if he parry spams with caestus he can land one and one shot me
this seems wholly against the idea behind parrying
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>>169410579
Got a great shield?
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>>169411031
Collectors Edition
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What God got chosen for the restart for DS2?
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>>169407978
>WE ALDRICH FAITHFUL JUST WANT A FAIR FIGHT
then duel.or man the fuck up and out-scum them. if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. by the way, especially aldrich faithful are a gank covenant. by putting on that bage, you sign a paper saying "i want to gank people". so fuck off
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>>169410565
>Lord of Cinder does not add to the tension and the challenge, it does not make the player more invested

the fact that you can fuck up and get killed by the black knights while your souls are in gwyns room adds tension

the fact that you dont want to fall off the edge while your souls are in gwyns room adds tension

the only case of a long trip to the boss not adding tension, is the walk to the throne of want in DaS2, because that is actually what you describe: A long ass walk with no obstacles.
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>>169411168
Kremmel
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>>169411396
Thanks.
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>>169411396
What was the Adaptability for 10 AGI, 26 right?
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>>169411271
>by putting on that bage, you sign a paper saying "i want to gank people"
The irony is most of my AF invasions while farming dregs was into a fully cleared map and gank squad.
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>>169410935
>a bunch of additional bonfires splitting up a linear map have no relevance whatsoever to level design
>if you just disregard a massive amount of bonfires in a discussion about bonfire proximity and then think objectively

you objectively need to kill yourself lol
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>farron memesword does 500 AR on a 40/40 build
>black knight sword does 542 on the same build

FROOOOOOOM
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Hello /dsg/, are luck/dexbuilds a thing, or should I just go with either one.
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>>169411569
like the treehuggers in 1. and the bellbongers in 2. it's how it goes, if you face a ganksquad stall until backup arrives
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Are there any fucking news about the DLC yet fuck
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>>169411619
Luck is useless, go dex.
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>>169411619
depends what are you trying to do?

bleed builds demolish most bosses in the game
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>>169411768
Well, doesn't luck raise your bleed build up?

Maybe I should've been more specific
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Wait, was 120 the Meta in DaS2? I fucking forgot everything about that game lol
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>>169411976
SL is irrelevant, only SM matters
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>>169411859
>bleed builds demolish most bosses in the game


Pretty much what I'm going for yeah
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>>169411976
Soul level? 150 but it was based on soul memory
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>>169412062
>>169412040
>>169412040
>>169411976


What was the meta SM
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>>169411885
Yes, but there's an item that does it too. That item is so strong it's worth more than 99 luck

You just make a dex build with that item
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>>169411279
Anon, who in their right mind would fight the final boss of the game while carrying a meaningful amount of souls that they mean to spend on something or other, rather than simply spending it all first?

But hell, let's make it a better point for you, let's assume it's a played with a Chaos-infused weapon carrying 99 humanities and they're all laying on Gwyn's puddle.

That STILL doesn't excuse the immense amount of terrain you have to cross to reach the goddamn boss room. Might as well have the big atmospheric walk through the kiln, then add a bonfire at the top of the spiral staircase leading to the fog door, while concentrating all the Black Knights in that area between the bonfire and the door proper, one after the other. Maybe even add a couple holes here and there to the ground if you want for the platforming challenge.

It's still kind of a waste of time, but significantly less so, and your intended goal is still maintained.

I still don't think it's a sensible design decision, I still think the boss as a challenge on itself should warrant full player attention rather than tacking on long gameplay sequences right on top of it in the off chance some player is carrying souls or something they wish to keep.
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>>169411604
>Let me show you how retarded I am hur dur
Did you read a word of what I said? How does Vordt of the Boreal Valley bonfire affects the level design of High Wall, for example? You already finished the area, so it literally bears no relevance to the feel of the game or your deaths, which is the case in most boss bonfires. Or for example, the bonfire at the beginning of Undead Settlement and then, one right after said bonfire, It basically makes no difference because the area of the first bonfire has absolutely nothing besides some items scattered around, upon reaching the second bonfire, which is when the area actually starts, your the next bonfire is only very far ahead, as it's the case in the vast majority of areas in Dark Souls III. Another example is Irithyll of the Boreal Valley having one bonfire at the beginning and another after the bridge. What fucking difference does that make? There's literally nothing at that bridge after you kill the mini boss.

See >>169410565
> if the corridor between defeating Wolnir and reaching the Irithyll bridge had fifty bonfires neatly arranged side by side that would not compromise the challenge of the game at all, it would simply make the warp UI cluttered.
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>>169412192
Usually around 2 to 2.5 mil
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>return to drangleic
>dead
well now what?
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>>169412449
b&?
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>Heide's Tower of Flame post-Dragonrider

>Right off the bat two knights and a giant aggro

>everything in the stage chases you, forever

>can't find the fucking switch to access the cathedral

>can't kill the drake because every single enemy in the zone pours onto the platform behind me

And I'm ALREADY at 61k Soul Memory, like 3 hours into the game.
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>>169412220
Alright then, thank you
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>>169412294
Im not that anon so spare me the paragraphs, but remember back to DS1 before you get the lordvessel how the world was designed to have lots of unlockable shortcuts and sometimes a decent walk to get back to Andre or to Firelink.
I think that added a lot to the game.
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>>169412487
no, but world without name engraved is way more active
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>>169412523

You have to kill the drake for the switch to appear you nignog
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Any tips if I can't find myself with enough DPS to down the first Maneater in time?
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>>169412523
Remember when Dark Souls was hard?
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>>169412523
>>can't find the fucking switch to access the cathedral
you need to kill the knight, do you? at any rate, killing ODS after DR in SotFS is ill-advised
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What's the name of the sword that can shoot white beams for its WA? I've never seen it before but someone just used it against me in undead match.
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>>169412701
Why's that?
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>>169412692
No
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>>169412753
Twin Princes swordaru
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>>169412602
I do think that the bonfire placement from DKS1 is better, but most complaints about 3's placement are retarded.
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>>169412828
Because of the knights bumrushing you?
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>>169412753
Lothric's Holy Sword
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>>169412523
Heide's one the easiest areas in the series, get gud.
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>>169412839
>>169412979
thanks
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What are the best resources for Souls lore?
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>get to Lost Sinner
>have name ring on for Kremmel
>not a single name

I haven't seen a single player since the Cardinal Tower bonfire, is the event already ded?
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tips for using rope firebombs in PvP? should I even bother?
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>>169412046
in that case yeah go dex/luck, just dont bleed infuse anything because then you cant put carthus rogue on it.

also hollow infusion will give you +5 luck if you're fully hollowed, so you only need 30 luck if you have a hollow infused weapon/something in each hand.

bandit dagger and warden twinblades are the best, although dont underestimate kirks sword either.
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>>169413246

If you can land a hit on someone with a Rope Firebomb, that means you could've landed a hit with your main weapon. It's for style.
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Okay /dsg/, let's play a game, what's your:

>Favorite boss in the series
>Favorite area
>Favorite NPC
>Favorite track
>Favorite weapon
>Favorite build
>Favorite moment
>Favorite game

Bonus points if you explain why.
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can someone explain how to beat that swine made of metal?
It comes after the red dragon.
It just kills me when I go near it
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>>169413439
I don't think that's automatically true because it helps fake people out a bit.
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holy fuck heide knigts are fucking me in the ass

this area fucking sucks, it's eating all my consumables

Do they lag intentionally? They'll stand still for a second, then teleport into a move

>>169413021
Oh, fuck off.
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>had the sound glitch out in my copy of Demon's Souls
>it now refuses to play the sound effect of rolling in heavy armor even if I restart
Bullshit. That was my favorite sound effect too.
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>>169413498
try finger but hole
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why is the spawn point bonfire?
It's pretty shit lmao
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>>169413498
You need to backstab it.
And by backstab it I mean shove a weapon up its unarmored bum.
I'm completely serious.
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>>169413429
How are the Katanas?
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>>169413531
>All the knights have extremely long wind ups and slow as fuck movements
>Extremely easy to dodge, predict and circle strafe
Again, get gud.
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>>169413803
Do you mean the green knights? Because they're not what I'm talking about.
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>>169413783
>>169413687
do I drop down behind it from the bridge or dodge the charges and then backstab it?
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>>169413917
Just dodge, if you go for the bridge it won't work I don't think. He'll just turn and face you.
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>just beat the second boss in DS using firebomb spam and abusing the ladder on the watchtower
there was no other way. But it feels like cheating desu
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is the follower javelin any good or is it dumpster-tier
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>>169413912
What I said goes to most knights from Heide, you just need a good amount of adaptability and they become a joke because you can easily roll through their slow as fuck attacks and it's also easy to circle then. If you don't have adaptability try a shield and just circle strife them. Of course, don't try to fight two at the same time, lure one by one.
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>>169414237
its fun
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>>169413795

You don't get many swings out of them compared to something like the Bandit's Knife

You get more base damage, but bleeding twice as often is better
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>>169414034
you can easily block him with a shield you find lying around. two 2hr1s from the bandit axe stagger him
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some of my pvp kills feel so bullshit due to lag, I wish there was some way to see how bad it was from their perspective
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>>169414397
It's a good thing that new players don't know about shit like this.
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>>169412224
>I still don't think it's a sensible design decision

it's what makes the souls games unique, go play some casual shitter game with a save function if you cant handle having to do the walk of shame when you fuck up
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Glad i bought ds2 on ps4 a while back when it was on sale.

Didn't even bother to open it but i guess now is as good a time as any
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The best time I had on vanilla DKS2 was when i got the Vanquisher Seal on NG+, man, that shit was so much fun. Too bad they nerfed for no reason
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>>169414313
You know Scholar of the First Sin adds like 8 Heide Knights to the area, right? They're passive and sitting to start out, but they activate after Dragonslayer dies, starting to patrol and aggroing from extremely long range. They're aggressive, have way more health and damage than the giant green knights, and are much, much faster. Also, they like ganging up on you. I'm painstakingly clearing them, but it is a shitshow and takes forever.
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>>169413498
Have you tried hitting its ankles?
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>>169411610
The dagger will hit for 80 on any given swing, so your breakdance still does 38 more damage per swing.
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>>169414687
I don't remember much of the SotfS because I only played through it one time, but why are you trying to kill each one of them anyway? Just rush to the boss door and kill Shit rider.
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is SL 65 +6 still good for irithyll PvP? or is that just the low end of post pontiff? I feel like i'm not getting any summons, is this game truly dead?
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>>169414934
Too high
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>>169412294
> What fucking difference does that make? There's literally nothing at that bridge after you kill the mini boss.

that it shouldn't be there, if you're such a collosal fuckup that you die to the dog you should walk from the catacombs.

saying 'whats the difference' is like saying 'what would the difference be if we added a save function to dark souls?'

unpleasantness adds tension and is a legit game design choice you big baby, it follows the theme of the series of having consequences.

there are no consequences when you get a babies first soulsgame checkpoint every 5 steps
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>>169414934
65 is on the high end, yeah
I could come co-op if you wanted since I happen to be level 71 right now.
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>>169387975

I still want to know what this scary ability actually is. It's sure as fuck not "slightly better bleed" if the gods were at all afraid of it.
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>>169415101
>>169415213
So should I just go to 70 for post pontiff aldritch faithful fuckery?
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>>169414905
I already KILLED the rider, which is why this area is now a shitshow. I'm trying to get to Old Dragonslayer, which means killing the drake, which means I can't sprint past stuff because then I'll be fighting a drake with 16 knights dogpiling the platform.

I've killed pretty much everything now. Very low on heals. Hope the Drake isn't too much of a bastard.
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>>169414934
wait, are you talking about the pvp spot after pontiff? there's a dry region between the level most people beat pontiff at and then meta levels like 99 or 120 with +10 weapons
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>>169396167
Did they ever fix lightning spears in ds2
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>>169415342
I don't want shitty duels, I want invasions by aldritch faithfuls and whatnot
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>>169415475
then you might be too high, since i don't know how much invading people do in that area at meta levels
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>>169415475
Try 50 ish
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>>169415319
Killed him first try.
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>>169414897
>the dagger ever hitting anything ever

kek
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>>169415137
>'what would the difference be if we added a save function to dark souls?'
You ignorant bastard. Why try arguing something when you have not even a basic idea of what the gameplay consequences of something you are arguing about are? Can you do no more than continue to babbling pointless memes?
Tell me about the bonfires every five steps in Cathedral of the goddamn Deep. In Irithyll Dungeon. In the Catacombs. In Archdragon Peak. In Untended Graves. In the Grand Archives. ANYWHERE that's not a transition area between multiple maps where there's simply no gameplay sequences being broken up, or an anchor to a boss fight, or a covenant bonfire.

Or rather continue to boast about how you're such a hardcore player because you realize you can walk through an empty corridor and bridge without having to take a break on the way, holy shit isn't that special and a true test of gaming skill.
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>>169415695
Dagger comes out first and at dagger speed, why are you not hitting people with it?
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>>169410104
I wish either of those were fast enough, but there's no way.
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>>169414034
The boss is actually there to teach you to utilize your environment. If you fight him on the bridge you're in a huge disadvantage as the narrow passage allows him to bodyblock most of the arena.

It's less of an actual boss and more of an extended tutorial.
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Man what the fuck

I'm at Old Dragonslayer, barely 5 hours into the game

and I already have 69 thousand soul memory

I guess I didn't notice my first playthrough, because I was covenant of champions

but what a shitty fucking mechanic
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>>169415137
>that it shouldn't be there,
It makes almost no fucking difference. The distance between those two bonfires consist of like 5% of Undead Settlement, they don't really affect the feel of the area, that's the thing.

>saying 'whats the difference' is like saying 'what would the difference be if we added a save function to dark souls?'
Only if you ignore literally everything I said. In doesn't make difference in the case of the examples I gave, which is in the case of most bonfires at the start of each area, or boss bonfires. Stop trying to argue using false dichotomy.

>unpleasantness
God, you're such a idiot. Tell me, what fucking difference it would make if Painted World had a bonfire at Priscilla's room right after you killed her? Yes, none. It would only make replay value of the area better.

You are failing to grasp what we are saying because you seem to not be able to judge each situation/area individually and instead is trying to act like quantity of bonfire is everything that matters, rather than where said bonfires are placed. Boss bonfires and bonfires at the start of each serve to stack the number of bonfires that Dark Souls III has, but they don't reflect the overall feel of most areas in the game, as they appear either at the start, or at end of each level and what matters is what happens in between.
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>>169415137
>>169416354
both of you faggots are saying the exact same thing

shut the fuck up
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Is there a site that lists exactly which Pharros Lockstones and Fragrant Branches of Yore to use in SOTFS? I feel like a checklist would be very helpful.
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why does the MLGS have such shit tracking on it's attacks when people are circling you?
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>>169416450
>I don't know how to read
Back to /v/
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>>169416650
Both of you are saying the boss bonfires are irrelevant.
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>>169416484
Just check their wikidot pages, it lists where each either can be used and what it yields.
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>>169416350
Agape ring
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>>169416954
He's saying that boss bonfires and bonfires at the start of each area fuck the level design and challenge of the areas, whereas I'm saying the opposite.
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GET PARRIED YOU FUCKING SHIT
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>>169417071
parries have never been webm worthy
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You can still party literally everything in DKS2 with Monastery scimitar? Parrying elephant warriors and spiders was fun.
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>>169417250
monscim was nerfed
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>>169415973
Lothric Castle, Undead Settlement, Farron Keep, Irithyll and Road of Sacrifices DO have way too many bonfires and checkpointing with bonfires is a dumb mechanic because it causes the level designers to be lazy and instead od making sure the levels loop into themselves with shortcuts that not only makes them feel logical, it also makes invading in said levels easier.

This is actually one of the reasons why DOOM and Duke3d had great level design that is remembered so fondly : the levels were designed from the start so that the single player levels could be directly used as multiplayer levels like what Souls does.
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Made 99 spite tokens this morning and another 99 tonight, this event is pretty fun.

<- he was afk, i broke his armor first
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>>169416297
So I'm supposed to do this all the time?
Using my environment unfairly against the NPCs? This was their plan all along? It also doesn't help how I keep dying in 3 hits against literally everything no matter how much new armour I get.
Anyways will I be able to sell my items? I have a lot of duplicates.
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>>169416958
>>169416484
If you played the original ds2 then scholar is the exact same thing.

The only difference is some balance updates and a new cut scene
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>>169416647
Can't be too special
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>>169417158
t. parried scrub
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>>169416350
>69k at ODS

So, if thats bad, I'm guessing me being at 126k for Sinner is even worse.
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Do I have to grind souls and then go to bonfire to make them respawn so I can grind them again so I can level up?
I've been doing this and it's kind of working but it really feels like pokemon.
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>>169411121
i could get one im sure
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>>169417505
I don't know. All I know is I'm getting barely any activity.
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>>169417373
>I keep dying in 3 hits
You can upgrade armor when you reach the blacksmith in Undead Parish. Level up Vitality and Endurance a bunch in the beginning, pick shields with high stability and upgrade your weapons. Buy titanite shards and upgrade your weapon.

As far as duplicate items go, you can sell stuff around the halfway point of the game but you should not hold on to earlygame crap items, just discard the shit you get from skeleton men.
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>>169417391
wat
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>>169417640
You really shouldn't need to grind unless it's like "just need 70 souls to level up" type deal. The natural progression from killing enemies and bosses will do it. If you're stuck on an area, you'll naturally be killing more enemies and leveling up until you're good enough to get through.
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I made a new character for RtD today and good God, the character creator in DS2 is dog poop. The only thing that DS2 added that was worthwhile at all was the ability to have beards.
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The Pursuer seems like such a douche or fedoracore.
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>>169417931
>DS3 improves the character creator and graphics
>can't have blonde or white hair, everything has this weird grey tone in it

Just wear a helm like every other time anon, these nips will never learn
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>>169417743
Also when I have to beat those undeads that hold a shield and spear it's really hard to break their defenses because they never let down the shield and when they attack they just have insane range and speed. The only way I've found is by holding the weapon with 2 hands and then hitting him twice or something.

The only way I've dealt with multiple armoured shielded guys are using a battleaxe with both hands. Is that the way or are there other ways?
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>>169418315
Learn to kick
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>>169417350
>Lothric Castle,
Three bonfires if you don't count boss bonfires(Like was explained why it should be disregarded).

>Undead Settlement
Three bonfires without the irrelevant one at the start and the boss.

>Irithyll
Three bonfires, the one before the bridge is literally irrelevant and again, counting boss bonfires is retarded.

>mechanic because it causes the level designers to be lazy and instead od making sure the levels loop into themselves with shortcuts that not only makes them feel logical,
Except Dark Souls III does that all the time. It does in most of the levels you mentioned, like in Lothric Castle, Irithyll and Undead settlement. It also does it in Farron keep/road of sacrifices, Cathedral of the Deep, Catacombs, High Wall and Irithyll Dungeon.
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>>169416354
>Tell me, what fucking difference it would make if Painted World had a bonfire at Priscilla's room right after you killed her?

tell me what difference it would make if it was right outside her boss room or had an enemy ignoring shortcut like say:

nameless king (literally next to it)

twin princes (elevator ride)

dragonslayer armor (elevator ride)

Soul of cinder

Friede (literally next to it)

Champion and doggo (literally next to it)

and then there's the multitude of bosses that are just a short run from the bonfire with enemies that pose no real obstacle like undead legion and wolnir.

why does this matter? Beyond the fact that it makes the game way more casual by in effect putting a save point right next to the big mean boss?

Invasions

what the fuck

is the point of invasions

if people dont need to traverse the level to get to the boss

if they can just pop the ember right next to the fog gate
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>>169418173
What baffles me is the beard models.
DS3 has no full beards, everything looks horrendous.
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>>169418315
shield guys are easy, just kick them, should be forward + attack
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>>169417820
But I literally die to everything so when I kill a boss and get 3k souls, I just die and lose them all. I'm only leveling up by grinding.
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>one black model and one slant eyed model are available in dark souls
>everyone else is white
What the hell. I wanna make a brown character.
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>>169418315
>Are there other ways?
Multiple.
One of the basic ways is kicking them. Kicking is hard on a controller but it often breaks a basic shieldguy's guard. Then follow up with a basic attack.

Another method is waiting for them to attack when you have a shield up, they will recoil and you can circle around to the back and backstab them.

Another favorite is doing a light attack on their shield to bait them into attacking and then parrying their counterattack.
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>>169418403
do you know how many bonfires you got in demon souls for levels that where often larger than the Das3 maps?

1

anything more than 1 for the level is a mistake

that's the strenght of maps like cathedral, even if it says it has 3 bonfires, it in effect has 1 and it covers the whole map.
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>>169418173
>can't have blonde or white hair, everything has this weird grey tone in it
the fire fades and the world slowly goes back into the age of ancients. same reason miracles have progressively been shittier and shittier each game
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Anyone wanna drop this for me? Preferably unupgraded

High lothric bonfire pass: dsg
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>>169418764
>unupgraded
>implying low level
>implying non-softcapped end
dont
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>>169418448
If you die to everything, how are you killing bosses? Sounds like you're just starting to get gud. It happens.

You need to think of Dark Souls as a formula. The game will always present the same challenge. The enemies spawn in the same spots, the level doesn't change on you, etc. You, the player, are the variable. You can't change the level or the enemies, but you can change yourself, bring the right equipment and tactics to get through almost any situation with ease. It just takes repetition and dying, basically.
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>>169418848
it eats stamina for breakfast, especially because you're blocking on every second attack and anything larger than a dagger will eat an even larger chunk of your already rapidly depleting stamina stores
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>>169418848
am sl 90 m8
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>>169418668
But what if you're outnumbered or something?
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for the love of god someone tell me theres a way to cheese the dancer of the boreal valley. im on attempt 40 plus now. Im this close to quitting the game... because of this shitty bottleneck
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Is it okay to read guides?
Or is that cheating?
I'm the kind of person who doesn't learn that fast desu. I just spend an hour and half without making progress
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>>169419132
Dark damage or bleed.
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>>169419132
carthus rouge + bandit knife or warden twinsword
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>>169419132
Summon someone, use carthas rouge or undead pine resin.
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>>169418448
We've all been there. Don't worry Anon, first time is always the hardest. If even I can do it and I'm garbage at videogames, so can you.
Trust me, regular level progression will give you all the souls you could possibly need to level up, even if it's something along the line of "oops, I'm trying to reach the boss but I just got enough souls for a level up when I'm 3/4ths of the way to the boss door. Better go back and spend them just to be safe.
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>>169419176
I honestly cant even get remotely close to her without losing 3/4 of my health.
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Is there a solid build where I could use that would mindlessly go through the bosses? Trying to get all the achievements before I go on to toying with new builds before the DLC drops.
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>>169419169
which game

if it's DaS2 then get some ADP, agility determines your iframes
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>>169400904
To be fair I can see a lot of people simply falling for the Dark Souls is the hardest game ever meme and thinking the cemetery is a natural difficulty spike after the asylum. It would certainly explain why people beat their head against it for so long before looking around and discovering the path to the Burg.
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>>169419318
The only solution there is to git gud.
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>>169419169
Just play through the game in whatever way is the most fun. Guides help for some npc quests, but I wouldn't call it absolutely necessary.
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>$15 DLC
>only 3 bosses

Kek.
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>>169419318
you have to understand that she follows a different attack rythm to every single other enemy in the game.
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>>169418419
>nameless king
The hardest boss battle in the game, it's understandable that the bonfire would be close. Dark Souls 1 also does that with Ceaseless discharge.

>twin princes (elevator ride)
And a long ass walk to the boss with countless enemies in between, just like most boss walks in Dark Souls 1.

>dragonslayer armor (elevator ride)
Actually walking from Dragon barracks is faster and safer than taking the Elevator. In both cases you have a walk with enemies in between anyway.

>Soul of cinder
Last boss, there's nothing in between, would you want another fucking Gwyn where you had to do a boring, long ass 3 minutes walk to get to the fog gate?

>doggo
What? Are you referring to the boss at High wall? If yes, you are retarded, not only you have to take a elevator, as there's still a long walk full of enemies before said boss.

>Champion
Literally the first boss of the game. Asylum Demon bonfire is also very close

>and then there's the multitude of bosses that are just a short run from the bonfire with enemies that pose no real obstacle like undead legion and wolnir.
You just described every Souls game ever apart from Demon's Souls.

>why does this matter? Beyond the fact that it makes the game way more casual by in effect putting a save point right next to the big mean boss?
Not true, as proven by what I just said. You're literally complaining about things that always existed in the series.

Also, your analogies and comparisons are beyond stupid and you fail to grasp even basic concepts. Not to mention that you type like a faggot, with excessive reddit spacing and using meme words, fuck off.
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>>169419318
There's a reason her butt is so memetic anon.
The safest place you can possibly be for the first phase is hugging the Dancer's buttcheeks. Second phase is just a matter of running away a lot, from everything and waiting for when she does an attack you can exploitt, like the dark explosion and the leap stab + twirl.

Dancer was hell on my first playthrough too. As bad as Sulyvahn.
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Anyone else having a great time invading in Ariandel?

What kind of builds are working for you guys? I'm doing pretty well with the spiked mace and arbalest.
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>>169418403
>3 bonfires

3 bonfires for a level is really excessive and there is no reason to divide the levels into bite-sized chunks with that many bonfires because it removes a lot of the tension and makes large parts of the level pointless.

I agree that boss bonfires are ok, but overall if we compare a level like Cainhurst Castle and Lothric Castle, they both have a bunch of logical physical shortcuts that enable the level to work around a single lamp/bonfire, but because DS3 cuts LC into bite-sized pieces with the bonfires, it makes the shortcuts and the enemy encounters feel less impactful when the last checkpoint is only a minute away. It's kind of like watching a scary movie that has super light-hearted commercial breaks breaking the flow of the movie up. People say 'quality of life improvement' but to me the reason why DS3 only felt like it had tension in levels like CotD / High Wall / GA was because they didn't give you a safe space every 2 minutes.of gameplay and this is why Bloodborne levels were really good for the most part.
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>>169419562
is there cheats? id rather do that than try another 40 times?
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>>169402635
Man I must be blind because I've never noticed the illustration on miracle scrolls before, neat.
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>>169418764
Booting up the 360 cya soon
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>>169418964
why unupgraded then?
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>>169419013
>what if you're outnumbered?
Use ranged attacks to pull enemies one by one, use the environment to separate them, retreat to narrow corridors where they can only come at you one at a time.
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>>169419763
Was estoc or rapier the more swole choice in DS2 I forget
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>>169419132
Bleed dagger with bleed buff
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I picked the cleric class in DSPTDE
Did I fuck up?
I'll be playing offline so there's nobody to heal.
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>>169419708
You could always just download Cheat Engine and do the fight offline if you're so desperate.

Unless you're playing on PS4, in which case, no, you have nothing to rely on but yourself and whatever people you summon.

Alternatively, take a long break. You're clearly tilting and that'll affect your play severely. Try again tomorrow.
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>>169419938
It's fine. just get SLB/DMB, Great Lightning Spear, and WotG.
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>>169419763
I didn't mean to quote you please don't be mad
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>>169418764
Turned on my oven.
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>>169419550
>And a long ass walk to the boss with countless enemies in between, just like most boss walks in Dark Souls 1.

>spawn at dragonslayer bonfire
>take elevator up
>literally no enemies in your path to the door
>???

Actually walking from Dragon barracks is faster and safer than taking the Elevator. In both cases you have a walk with enemies in between anyway.
>run to elevator
>send it down when you get off
>literally nothing will stop you because the knight is praying and the priest will start to cast a buff

>Last boss, there's nothing in between, would you want another fucking Gwyn where you had to do a boring, long ass 3 minutes walk to get to the fog gate?

yes I would

>What? Are you referring to the boss at High wall?
champion and doggo are the second DLC boss you moron

>You just described every Souls game ever apart from Demon's Souls.
yeah good luck just running past the LEGION worth of enemies in front of you in heide, dragon aerie or the undead crypt fuckface


are you just mentally challenged or something? am I being baited? You cant actually be this dumb can you?
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>>169419921
where do i get these?
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>>169419331
Yes i invented a build a while back specifically players like you.

It was basically a knight build using the best weight to absorption ratio armors.

Capped health and nearly endurance with a high stability shield and long range thrust weapon.
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>>169420012
What do you mean by those things.
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>>169420195
Offensive miracles.
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What was the deal with them again?
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>>169419938
You'll be healing yourself, dummy.
The problem with Cleric in DSI is that most of the fun miracles are locked behind covenant rewards that are more or less dead.
But if you plan on leveling faith a lot you can still easily getting through the game by upgrading your weapon to the Divine path [which grants it a respectable scaling with Faith].

Either way, even if you don't want to level up faith you can just level other stats and turn your cleric into a melee class or regular sorcery/pyromancy caster. Your class only determines your starting levels and equipment, not the way in which your character can improve.
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>>169420275
something something demon souls reference

something something berserk reference
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how do i defeat the skeleton??? i backstab it for like 30 damage
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>>169419942
kind of a shittlity designed part of the game huh? I can reasonably progress till this point then just flat out can not get passed one boss? Are they trying to force me to use shitty online to progress?
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wtf this is the hardest fight in the game
stop standing in the arrows you stupid slut fucking ree
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>>169420082
>heide
>undead crypt
Been there, done that.

>Dragon Shrine
Probably also doable. If not, it'll probably be the first area across all three Dark Souls games that you can't sprint through to reach the boss.
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>>169405770
Because gundy is a protagonist tier hero
What a fucking great guy, I wish I'd get more summons at my level
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>>169420404
Why are you trying to stab a fucking skeleton?
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>>169420404

Strike damage.
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>>169419562
>Dancer does her multiple spin attacks followed by her dark ground stab and then fire slash
>Just backed off and stood there
bitch is crazy
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>>169420485
>he hasn't tried to keep cuckulus alive
I don't know which one of them is worse though. Managed to keep Anri alive on my first try last playthrough using lightning stake, but the one before that too fucking ages.
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All areas should have only one bonfire.
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>>169418675
>do you know how many bonfires you got in demon souls for levels that where often larger than the Das3 maps?
First, no level in Demon's is as big as the areas I mentioned unless you count the worlds as a single levels. The first level of Shrine of storms, Stonefang, Boletaria or literally any other DeS level isn't even half the size of Cathedral of the deep or Irithyll of the Boreal Valley. Second, most people didn't like the design in Demon's Souls because they thought to be excessive, myself included. Remember how long it was the walk from the swamp to the boss? A boss is already a challenge by itself, there's no fucking reason to put a 5 minutes boring walk

>anything more than 1 for the level is a mistake
Having only one bonfire in all of Irithyll of the Boreal Valley would be the most annoying thing in existence, as that level is bigger than anything in DeS, even the swamp. The solution would be to connect shortcuts to said bonfires, but the effect would be the same: To shorten the distance between you and a point of interest.
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>>169420459
Actually, Dancer is a very good boss, even if I hate fighting it.
It just follows a completely different attack rhythm than most enemies in the game, that's probably what throws you off.
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>>169420501
you clearly haven't played sotfs

if you try to run to the ODS you will have aproximately 6 heide knights on your ass with infinite aggresion range.

in undead crypt there are two cyan knights with greatshields that are scripted to never leave the fog door alone so you cant get past them (which is really funny because they will literally just stand there if you cover them in poison clouds)

dragon shrine has like 10+ dragonbros on the stairs alone who will fuck your shit up if you dont play by their rules, not to mention all the others along the way who will aggro if you dont fight the drake knights
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>>169420301
So the starting class doesn't really limit me too much? Nice.
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>>169420650
I find her first phase to be way easier by two-handing a bandit knife and going full Bloodborne on her.
Can't help you with that second phase, though. She comes up with a new combo every time I enter the fog.
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>>169420275
Corpses of the drowned congealed into a single creature over time.
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>>169420875
Im not that anon, im just saying sometimes her moveset is fucking hilarious because you can just back off and watch her go.
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>>169420363
>>169420275

Memezacki has always wanted to create a weird sludge monster. He started with Prisoner Horde / Phalanx from DeS, continued with that weird thing from DaS1, weithing rotten fleshes in DS1,3 and Bloodborne, The One Reborn in Bloodborne arguably, and finally Aldrich in DS3.
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>>169420814
Well I did mention Dragon Shrine as only "probably" doable because I haven't actually done it. But I HAVE done the sprint through both Heide and Undead Crypt.

Hell, you can even do it through Iron Passage, an area that is absolutely hell to play through normally.
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Do I upgrade regular weapons like shortswords and falcions? Or do I eventually get better versions of those from drops?
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>>169420837
Yes.
Just remember to never level up Resistance.
It's a dead, worthless stat.
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>>169420773
>Having only one bonfire in all of Irithyll of the Boreal Valley would be the most annoying thing in existence

>have bonfire when you get there
>ok

>have another one immediately after you cross the bridge
>uhm ok

>have another one after a 30 second sprint
>alright atleast this one will have all the shortcuts so no more!

>have yet another one after one room filled with enemies that literally no one ever fights anyway
>oh


Boreal valley is not as large as you make it sound, the swamp in DeS is larger and there you have no idea where you're going.

I mean they even have a shortcut that leads you back to the bridge bonfire (with the fat lady), just give that shortcut a ladder back up instead of giving you another bonfire, it's better level design.
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>>169420082
>>spawn at dragonslayer bonfire
>take elevator up
>literally no enemies in your path to the door
Except for the countless enemies in the stairs, including 3 Knights. Did you even play the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaZ5JNy_ZbI

19:00 and on.

>>run to elevator
>>send it down when you get off
The knight aggros at you if you get close to the elevator.

>yes I would
Why though? There's literally no challenge there, it's just a extremely long walk with nothing in between, it's excessive and just kills the pacing of the fight. It should be long enough to make you think about your mistakes, not long enough to be extremely tedious.

>champion and doggo are the second DLC boss you moron
I didn't play the DLC, so can't talk about that.

>yeah good luck just running past the LEGION worth of enemies in front of you in heide, dragon aerie or the undead crypt fuckface
Except I did that countless times replaying Dark Souls II.

>are you just mentally challenged or something?
You were not able to disprove or argue against any of my points. You have yet to make a convincing argument as to why boss bonfires affect anything and you moved to goalposts several times, even ignore the objective fact that Dark Souls II has more bonfire in the middle of each level and barely has any shortcut. You're a failure at arguing and a newfag, as shown by your cancerous typing style.

Please, do this general a favor and fuck off.
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>>169421083
My bad.
Yeah, I tend to do that too. Half the time it's the only thing you can do because fuck knows what shit she's going to pull next.
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>>169421375
Dont listen to this guy, you generally want resistance equal to half your soul level.
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I have to confess now. The only boss I've never defeated in any of the soulsborne games is the Smelter Demon. Back then Dark Souls 2 was the first of any of these games I ever played, and the Smelter Demon made a fucking joke out of me over and over again, not to mention I was dogshit with the run up to him. I remember burning so many effigies on him before finally giving up in disgust, and I never came back. I only played through Dark Souls 2 once plus the DLC, and I never bothered with that fucker again.
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>>169396167
How do casters complete the dlc in sotfs?
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>>169420275
nito wannabe
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Why do people say to leave a Saint Bidet uninfused for DMB? I can net more physical damage on Heavy while keeping the same Faith scaling.
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>>169420623
it isn't working
i tried parrying it and punching it but it only did 80 damage
help
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>>169421226
the main difference is that you have to use cover and actually roll through attacks in those cases and can get fucked if they gang up on you.

meanwhile I have never once managed to fuck up a sprint for undead legion or wolnir, I mean all the goats are literally sitting on their ass and have to get up first and the only obstacles to wolnir are like 3 rats who have less range than someone using a dagger
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>>169421583
Don't give up Mr. Skeleton!
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>>169420738
Cuculus is easier since ODK focuses on whatever is closest to him, so at least for me the only risk to her is taking a meteor to the face because NPC's know dodging is for bitches. Anri has the terrible habit of standing in every single attack a boy and his blob have and can actually heal him with her poor pathing.
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>>169421314
You upgrade whatever weapon you want to use. Equipment system in souls is generally designed along the lines of everything being viable if you have the right stats to handle it, with bigger, fancier weapons having some sort of tradeoff.

My first game I just beat the entire game with the basic longsword and a shield because I knew no better.
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>>169421583
>punching it
get a mace or something, jesus
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>>169420773
>having only one bonfire in Irithyll would be annoying
Make the Dorhys Gnawing area a shortcut to near Church of Yorshka, base level around CoY.

As far as DeS goes, you did not get the design philosophy of DeS : the level itself is supposed to be challenge, not the boss. The bosses in Souls are generally quite easy compared to their levels.

And 5-2 has a shortcut btw, the bridge you can unlock.

Also, Bloodborne levels are as large as DS3 levels yet they function around a single lamp. Funny how that works.
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>>169419921
btw this doesnt work for shit
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>>169420875
I just fought her on my faith character and it's hilarious how the one single miracle, Dorhy's Gnawing, trivializes the hell out of her. It's literally both her weaknesses at once, dark and bleed. It deletes her healthbar.
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>>169419676
>3 bonfires for a level is really excessive
Not for such massive levels, like Cathedral of the deep, Lothric Castle and Irithyll.

>with that many bonfires
Again, it's less than Dark Souls II and considering the size of the areas it isn't excessive. I still think that Dark Souls 1 does it better, but the placement in 3 is far from being bad.

I don't know why you gave Lothric Castle as an example when the Archives bonfire is one of the best in the entire game. That area is huge and the game only uses one bonfire for its entirety. Yes, it has two shortcuts to said bonfire, but that's common place ever since Dark Souls 1.
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>>169421438
>including 3 knights

did you?

you do realize I'm talking about the elevator with the titanite slab at the bottom right?

the one immediately to the right after you get up the stairs?

the 3 knights are scripted to walk down the stairs, you rarely even have to wait for them to walk away when you take the elevator

https://youtu.be/DQZAWpIddeM?t=1m46s
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>>169421712
That's damn amazing. what are the disadvantages of the upgraded weapons though?
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>>169410278
You had to unlock the shortcut and then sprint past the enemies
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>>169418764
why can't you beat dogger?
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THIS IS BULLSHIT
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>>169421979
stop fucking punching enemies maybe?
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>>169421979

>r1 spams the shit out of the skeleton even though it can easily parry you
>still isn't using a mace

anon please
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>fighting Sully beasts in McDonald's
>one down in seconds, other one gives me the most trouble I've had with the character so far
>5-6 deaths later finally start making progress
>get the thing down to about 1/3 health
>"You are being summoned to another world"
>no fuck no no no
>go for an all or nothing jumping R2 and stun it
>run in the crit
>loading screen
>"Connection error, returning to your world"
>motherfuckers
>respawn 3 feet in front of a screeching beast, now with full health
>panic like fuck and fumble fucking everything
>get eaten

I'd be mad, but it was pretty fucking funny.
I got summoned again immediately after scoring a killing crit and got no souls for it
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>>169422117
disable double click for the mouse, sometimes you have to enable and then disable it before it registers it
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>>169421583
go grab the morning star on the cliff under Majula. A skeleton takes me a good three swings or so.
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>>169421862
>massive levels
Bloidborne has levels of equal size or larger than DaS3 levels and manages generally with only 1 lamp per area.

Lothric Castle is the area that starts with Dancer and ends with DSA. GA is not part of Lothric Vastle level.

Lothric Castle should only have the "Lothric Castle"-bonfire because you can later on unlock the elevator shortcut to DSA.
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>>169411279
I don't usually like walks to bosses but the kiln I found great, it had the same kind of feeling I felt at ash lake when I got there for the first time
Feelings of peacefulness and dread at the same time
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>>169421435
>>have bonfire when you get there
>>ok
>>have another one immediately after you cross the bridge
>>uhm ok
Already proven to be irrelevant.
>>have another one after a 30 second sprint
>alright atleast this one will have all the shortcuts so no more!
>have yet another one after one room filled with enemies that literally no one ever fights anyway
>oh
I don't even know what you're talking about, there's Church of Yorshka bonfire and then the distant manor bonfire is extremely distant.

>the swamp in DeS is larger and there you have no idea where you're going.
It's large in the same sense that Frigid outskirts is large, it's big but it's literally full of empty places that have nothing in them.
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>>169421782
It works even without the buff. Hit things more.
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>start new DS2 char for return to drangleic
>deprived
>defeat last giant and pursuer then rush to black gulch
>no one to help me defeat rotten

im trying to get the crypt blacksword pls help /dsg/
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Well I loved DS3 until Dancer. I'm quitting the game now because I can see no reasonable way to progress. I read the same unhelpful bs over and over with no real solutions.

Whats the trick?

There is no trick.

who made this game?
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>>169421928
Generally something along the lines of requiring a heavier stat investment to handle it, along with greater stamina consumption, or just simply having a moveset that forces you into a different playstyle than if you were using nothing but a simple sword.

Also, so you don't get confused, there are no downsides to directly upgrading your equipment at a blacksmith, all that does is increase the damage and protection your arms and armor give you.

A fancier-looking weapon isn't necessarily better than the one you're already using in 9 out of 10 cases. There are very few cases I can recall where weapons are straight improvements over one another.
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>>169422434
>Church of Yorshka bonfire and then the distant manor bonfire is extremely distant.

and this is how we know you're retarded
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>>169421979
>punching a skeleton
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>>169422463
>Whats the trick?

git gud
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>>169422463

git gud
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>>169422443
lol nice explanation fag. I just tried this and got her down to about 90% in 4 mins...
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>>169422627
We dont mean infusing a dagger with blood, use carthas rouge you donut
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>>169422574
Why use anything other than your hand to take care of a stray boner?
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>>169422463
git gud
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>>169422463
she is weak to fire and dark also git gud
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>>169422494
Ok thanks.
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>>169422463
>who made this game?
Me. Donate to my paypal and I'll unlock a cheat weapon for you.

Why don't you just summon?
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>>169422627
hug her and keep circle strafing, roll when she attacks

if you haven't learned her pattern after this many deaths you're clearly beyond hope
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>>169422564
How it isn't? You can run from from the chuch bonfire to distant manor in a about 2 minutes, but that's true to the vast majority of bonfires in II or even 1, exception being places like Sen's Fortress.
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>>169413498
Throw alluring skulls into the fire.
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>>169422596
>>169422618
>>169422742
>>169422746

fuck you

this whole game is fucking cancerous
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>>169421712
>Equipment system in souls is generally designed along the lines of everything being viable if you have the right stats to handle it,

except every class of weapon usually has one or two weapons that are just superior to all others in the category.

that is the one thing bloodborne did right
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>>169420301
Are there 3 ways to level up the character?
Melee, caster and faith?
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>>169422880
if you try to play the game while you're this mad you're just gonna keep fucking up worse and worse. try again after you've calmed down
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>>169422772
>2 minutes

what are you, fat rolling the whole way? or do you just not level END so you cant run more than 2 seconds at a time?
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>>169422880
Are you fighting her right after Vordt?
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>>169422889
Give examples so that I don't get baited by bad weapons.
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why is bloodlust such a steaming pile of shit
they could have done something interesting, ANYTHING interesting like making the weapon art extend its range, do an aoe or frontal cone attack but instead all it does is give you free carthus rouge
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>>169422880
dont play souls games when you're angry, this is a game for calm people
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>>169422463
The trick is that she's hilariously weak to bleeding and dark damage, so abuse one or both of those. The cheesiest way is probably using Gnawing/Dohry's Gnawing to nuke her from the other side of the room in total safety.
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>>169423126
which game?

also depends on your build
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>>169422989
For Dark Souls I, the big archetypes are: Strenght-based melee combat, Dexterity-based melee combat, Intelligence-based combat [soul sorceries cast from a catalyst, or a weapon that has INT scaling], Faith-based combat [Miracles cast through a talisman, or a weapon that hais FTH scaling], and Pyromancy [which in 1 is only dependant on the upgrade level of your pyromancy flame, not your personal stats.

How you define to what category a weapon belongs to is based on what that weapon scales out of, with things like giant clubs having good scaling in strength, staves having good scaling in intelligence, daggers having good scaling in dexterity, and swords having some scaling in both strength and dexterity for people who want to mix and match both.

These are the basics. There are also things like infusing weapons to scale off different stats than they normally would, but that's of no concern for someone just starting out. The appropriate NPCs will teach you about that once you reach them.
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What are some fun armors like kirk's set in DS2?
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>>169422880
ive been trying for many days now, ive tried literally everything short of summoning someone (i cant, no online).

I was able to progress fine until this point. How is this possible unless the game is designed like shit?
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>>169423436
Dex increased casting speed in DaS1, it was most significant with Pyromancy, so Dex-Pyros, or Vit-gouging were the only builds that mattered at the end of DaS1.
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>>169423607
the one combination of gear that gives you 100% damage reduction against all elemental damage
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>>169423126
There is only two weapons you shouldn't get baited by in Dark Souls I: Astora Straight Sword and Drake Sword.

The former is garbage, and the latter will carry you through the early game so hard you'll learn nothing and quickly get your face stomped later on after it quickly becomes useless and you don't know how to deal with enemies without a crutch.
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>>169423329
Dark souls PTDE
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>>169422434
>Church of Yorshka bonfire and then the distant manor bonfire is extremely distant.
>How it isn't? You can run from from the chuch bonfire to distant manor in a about 2 minutes

I'm here just to prove you're wrong
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>>169423607
Butterfly
Turtle
Jester
Smelter demon
Tseldora
Invisible set
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>>169423648
maybe it's because you are shit?

also as I said, dancer is meant to fuck with your mind, since her attack pattern doesn't match any other enemy or boss in the game.
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>>169423709
Name of the parts?
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Who's Sen?
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>>169422463
>>169422880
Anon, I think you are a big faggot but I will try to help you out.
You have to stay calm against the Dancer, she tries to trick you with her attacks and behaves erratically to confuse you. Look at her movements closely and calmly and don't roll out of desperation or instinct, look at her pattern and dodge at the right time. There's several times where she doesn't do anything and just walks around, use those ''openings'' to strike her, but don't do combos, just do fast and safe strikes, as that makes her ''unable'' to punish you with a counter attack. Try to always circle her while doing that, always roll towards her to make better use of your i-frames, but be careful with her grab, roll backwards whenever she uses it. NEVER stay close to her when she does that long ass spinning combo at the second phase.

What build are you using?
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Why is Lucatiel's summon sign not showing up? I've exhausted her dialogue at No Man's Wharf and Lost Bastille, and I'm human.
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>>169423648
>How is this possible unless the game is designed like shit?
i dont know, how has everyone else made it past that point?
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>>169423740
PTDE?

post traumatic death edition?
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>>169423856
He's the final boss of Ringed City.
He's another Everlasting Dragon though, so when you defeat him you don't get a soul, but you do get the Dragonslayer's Plume.
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>>169423710
Drake Sword is fine. Just use it while upgrading a second weapon and switch when the other weapon pulls ahead.

I used to PvP with a fully upgraded drake sword for shits and giggles, and it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.
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>>169423805
>dem rolls
Holy shit is that what <30% looks like?
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>>169423830

dude tell me how "her attack pattern is different" helps. please tell me what to do with that info. go fuck yourself
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>>169424019
>go fuck yourself

if you haven't realized that enemies follow rythm game rules by now you're beyond help anyway.
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>>169422880
>>169423648

Because you are trash. Just another shitter complaining the game doesn't hand them free rewards. You only lose to bosses in this game due to mistimed rolls. Time your rolls right or keep getting rekt.
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>>169423805
Even though you proved that my estimate was wrong, you also proved that the distance is just fine compared to most Souls bonfires. That's about the same distance as Sif's fog gate and the bonfire hidden in the illusory wall at darkroot, with maybe a 20 seconds difference.
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>skeletons with TWO falchions

>at least they can't parry me without a shiel

JUST
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nah im quitting man this shit sucks a lot.

sucks cause i feel like the game was a ton of fun up till this point. And the community really is pretty terrible
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>>169423881
what are you trying to summon her for?

For lost sinner the sign is at the bottom of the elevator

I think it's close to the bridge you kick down at no man's wharf but im not 100%
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>>169424019
What Soul Level are you and what gear are you using you fucking trashbag? Let the poor anons of this general help you.
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>>169424370
Yeah, it's at No Man's Wharf. I just want to finish her questline, so I figured I'd summon her for Flexile Sentry since he's a bitch.
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>>169423963
Can't you upgrade a drake sword as much regular weapons?
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>>169423981
>>169422434
>>169423805
And because I knew you'd pull one of those or "SL120 stamina bar LOL"

Here's the same course with a SL1.
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>>169424365
>says the game is shit
>complains when people who like the game shit on you
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>>169424306
>That one headless, one armed skeleton in 3 that pulls of bullshit parries
Honestly hes MVP of the whole franchise
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>>169424365
So you are gonna ignore my post? >>169423869

Shame, I was trying to help you out, but it seems like you don't want help and is just trying to use this general as your personal blog to vent out your frustrations.
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>>169418581
Thankfully they're westaboos
Western aesthetics and mythology getting all gooked up
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While we're talking about being a shitter, I don't think I've ever killed the fire demon before Smouldering Lake legit.
I get him to half health and bait him into an untimely skelly death every single time without fail.
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>>169424475
It lacks any scaling and the materials to upgrade it are not easy to comeby early on, at least for newbies.
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Sellsword Twinblades with carthus beacon + pontiff right eye + old wolf curved sword off hand.
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>>169424424
75 and broadsword

I dont know a fucking thing about game mechanics because i cant find any good explanations on anything anywhere

Im supposed to be summoning but cant so im fucked essentially.
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I used soul glitch to finish DS1
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>>169424606
I like to make him and the mimic fight
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>>169424501
I was just asking, dude. I can't roll like that, but I've never gone sub 30% before.
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>generic demon boss
>big humanoid knight dude #47
>le ebin giantess dragon bitch

>people are actually going to throw away $15 for 3 more shirt boss fights

Keeeeeekkkkkk
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>>169424704
Buy carthus rouge from the handmaiden
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>>169424704
broadsword isn't a build,

what is your strenght and dex?

what is your vig and end?

what infusion and upgrade level is your broadsword?

why isn't your broadsword a dark sword?
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>>169424501
>>169423981
>>169422434
And the proof.

>>169424264
The distance is not fine. Even close to the Distant Manor bonfire is the Dungeon Bonfire.
You want me to make another webm to prove how fucking wrong your sorry ass is?

Dark Souls 3 has too many bonfires, each area should only have one.

>>169424764
It was 36% (just checked) so no it's not, that's normal rolls.
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>>169424803
Back to /v/
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>>169424803
I bought the season pass which was my mistake

atleast the next one will have slut wear in the form of desert sorceress set
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>>169424905
>why isn't your broadsword a dark sword?
Not him, but for pve brosdsword is better after they nerfed dark sword.

But barbed SS is the best SS for pve
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>>169424606
Why WOULDN'T you make him, the skeltals and the mimic have a brawl to the death? You already killed his kind once in Undead Settlement, after all.
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>>169425075
the darksword bit was mostly to meme on him since I still view it as the shitter sword and he is clearly a shitter, he probably wears the fallen knight set too
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>>169424905

>why isn't your broadsword a dark sword?
how am i supposed to know what to do with any of this shit?

is there a walk through out there that just tells you what to get and how to build from the beginning? because all strategy this game seems to be is hearsay.
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Just how shit would a generic crossbowman soldier character be?
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Is it okay if I make raise all my stats to 20? Or is that inefficient?
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>>169424942
>The distance is not fine.
The distant is fine, it's standard in almost all souls games with the exception of Demon's Souls and some areas in DKS1.

>Even close to the Distant Manor bonfire is the Dungeon Bonfire.
And...?Irithyll dungeon is another area. Distant Manor bonfire was probably to make players fast travel easier if they didn't want to do that dungeon at the moment.

>You want me to make another webm to prove how fucking wrong your sorry ass is?
Please, make a webm walking from darkroot bonfire to Sif fog door and prove me that the distance is so much bigger than from Distant manor to Church. I'll wait.

>Dark Souls 3 has too many bonfires, each area should only have one.
You keep saying subjective things without having any argument to back up your retardation. For one, I can say that the distance between those two bonfires is fine, in my opinion, as I think that it has enough enemies and challenges in the way to justify It. Again, I always thought that the distance in DeS was excessive, as the game should reward you with either bonfires or shortcuts for exploring the place.
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>>169425478
Are you playing DS2? If your anwer is no then no
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>>169420301
I miss divine being usable and having a practical purpose
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>>169425274
What's wrong with the Fallen Knight set? I know it's a bit of a meme but honestly I think it looks cool
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>>169424905
Better yet, you tell me what im supposed to have.
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>>169425419
acquire 40str & 40dex

infuse dork sword with refined

slap bitches for 438 damage with 1hr1s and incredible reach

pump END so you can spam more

pump vig so you can tank more

congratulations you have now achieved the best build in dark souls 3

but as
>>169425075
barbed SS with carthus rouge on it will absolutely melt dancer due to bleed procs (or really any bleed weapon with carthus rouge on it)

if you actually infused something with bleed you fucked up
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>>169425567
There's no bonfire in Sif's room

dude literally didn't play the game
this is the retards that defend Dark Souls 3 bonfire placement
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>>169425224
You misunderstand.
I've tried to kill him legit, but I can't. He always pulls some shit that either one-shots me, or catches me with a delay and catches me again while I panic. Now I just don't bother.
I like the guy on top of Lothric Bridge, though. He's fun.
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>>169425624
the only thing wrong with it is that it literally has poop in it's pants

that it's just an iconic sign of a shitter to see someone with fallen knight, grass crest shield and dark sword
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>>169425814
so somehow get to lvl 100 is what your saying?
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>>169425274
I can get the shitter meme if you are a pvpfag, but if you are looking for a weapon for first playthrough than raw astora SS is the shitter's weapon

>>169425624
Too edgy, it's the teenager set
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>>169425841
>There's no bonfire in Sif's room
English motherfucker, do you speak it?
>Please, make a webm walking from darkroot bonfire to Sif fog door and prove me that the distance is so much bigger than from Distant manor to Church. I'll wait.
>FROM darkroot bonfire to Sif fog door
People consider the distance between Darkroot bonfire and Sif arena to be big, so I want you to prove me that's much bigger than the distance between distant manor and church.

Also, you type like a /v/ermin, which shouldn't surprise me.
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>>169425961
*that and it's just an iconic

bleh I'm getting tired
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>>169425961
>>169426051
tfw i used it and grass crest with Uchi for my first playthrough
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>>169425987
Just buy rouge and upgrade barbed sword if possible. You can also change to luck build to use anri's sword instead
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>>169426051
>Too edgy
Edgy is a buzzword. I can claim that most enemy designs in Souls games are edgy If I want to be a shitposter about it.
>>169426135
No shame in that, anon. It's one of the collest sets, along with the Undead legion one. I used Undead legion set+Fallen Knight helmet with Great Scythe for most of the game.
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>>169426083
but the distance between darkroot bonfire and sif arena isn't big

what point are you trying to make

>English motherfucker, do you speak it?
There is not a single bonfire inside Sif's room.
Play the fucking game you idiot
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>>169426135
I used kirk's set for MORE damage as I could hurt bosses even while rolling
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>>169425987
it's your end goal dummy

last time I beat dancer was as a SL15 with the dark hand (an unupgradeable weapon that does like 300 damage split betwen physical and dark)

27 vig is minimum for health

you can get 40/40 and 27 vig at SL75, you'll just have shit for end which you should then focus from this point on to get to 40 asap

but since you're using the broadsword you could also just infuse it with heavy and got for 60-66 str and then dump everything else into vig and end
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>>169426290
fallen knight does not look cool at all to me

forlorn set from 2 was much better

undead legion chest piece rules though, one of the best original armor sets from 3
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>>169426467
I love the undead legion hat
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>>169426583
Pointy helmets are awesome
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>>169426432

This shit kills me.

How do you know this? Where in the game is this info at?
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>>169426583
i'd like it if it werent for the white hair coming out of it. the creepy mask aspet of it is fine but the hair just makes it look like some juggalo shit to me
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>>169426681
that and the fact that it's one of the only ways to get white hair that looks like white hair in 3
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Catocombs invasions- SL40? And what Weapon level? anybody have good experiences with +5?
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>lightning miracle with both rings,40 faith, and +10 talisman
>130 dmg
>pyromancy fist +6 with random pyromancy easily does twice at least
why are miracles so shit in DS3?
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>>169426390
>but the distance between darkroot bonfire and sif arena isn't big
Oh, it isn't? So tell me, what's considered a big distance in the series for you? Does it need to be Gwyn-tier to be long for you?

>There is not a single bonfire inside Sif's room.
I never said that there's a bonfire there you imbecile, I was trying to compare the distances to make a point. You said that the distance is not fine, that's too close, so I asked you to compare to a distance that most of the community consider to be big. Please, learn how to interpret what you read.

>Play the fucking game you idiot
And then, you go and type nonsensical retardation that has no context with what we are talking about. Tell me, where did I implied that I didn't played the game? Because it sure wasn't because of the Sif claim, since I never claimed there was a bonfire in the room.
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>>169426740
>how do you know this

you could either figure if out by experimenting and looking at what stats affect your weapons damage

or you could spend like 5 minutes on google or youtube to find the latest hotest pvp meta build (here's a hint, there's only one because DaS3 is shit for variety in duels and invasions are fucked)
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>invade
>encounter lone host
>immediately puts up shield and circles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pceVKtXEoY
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>>169424803

That's pretty much everything after Dark Souls (Demon, actually).

Bloodborne has generic monster and fast human boss.

If you don't like those generic things, then these games aren't for you.
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>>169426740
most people here have finished the game multiple times. you fucked up by coming to 4chan expecting people to be nice to a frustrated new player. stop looking for answers online and just work on fighting that boss. you'll get it eventually.

don't be ashamed of dying a lot, dancer is one of the harder bosses in this game
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Damn, the retardation of this guy being ass ravaged by the Dancer is killing me.
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>>169426908
>what's considered a big distance in the series for you? Does it need to be Gwyn-tier to be long for you?

not him but what you're arguing for is having checkpoints every 5 steps, at that point there is no point in having check points and you might as well just have a quicksave function.

there are plenty of other games out there if that's your cup of tea.
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>>169426908
>the bonfires are too close to one another in DaS3
>BUT DARKROOT AND SIF ROOM ARE CLOSE TOO
>I never said that there's a bonfire there you imbecile
>????????

I think you're the retard here, friend
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>>169426740
What are your strengh and dexteriry? Do you have tongues for reespec? Did you get the ashes in the catacombs to buy carthus rouge? How many titanites do you have?

I need info to help you
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>>169426432
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>>169427108
This does not answer his question.
What is an "acceptable" bonfire distance? Surely there must be one, no?
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what's the best upgrade level for an sl80 invader?
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>>169427108
>not him but what you're arguing for is having checkpoints every 5 steps
Except that's not the case here. He showed that it takes 1:24 minutes to run from one point to another, if he ignores all the enemies, items and etc. So i'm only asking him to show me what's a big distance for him.

>t that point there is no point in having check points and you might as well just have a quicksave function.
>there are plenty of other games out there if that's your cup of tea.
This is so fucking dishonest that it hurts.
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>>169427228
>not using estus ring in pve
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>>169424803
I spent that much on an order-in burger and fries last night, anon, I think 6 hours of game for 15 dollars is a fair deal.
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>>169427262
Upper Blighttown to lower is pretty good in my opinion
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>>169426740
>How do you know this?

most people here have several hundred hours in DaS3 and equal or more in DaS2, DaS1 and possibly even DeS and BB.

what the fuck are you doing on 4chan?

tfw combined you have spent 1700+ hours across DeS, DaS1, DaS2 and DaS3
just fucking kill me already
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>>169423856
It's probably just a localization error. Sen is Japanese for 1,000. So loosely you could read Sen's Fortress as Fortress of 1,000 (traps).
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Winning an argument on a Bhutanese needlepoint website about fucking bonfires is not going to make your penis any bigger.

Shut the fuck up.
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>>169427454
>getting hit so much that you need to
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>>169427616
What else is there to talk about?
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>>169427262
>What is an "acceptable" bonfire distance?
bonfires in brume tower are all very well placed imo
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>>169427630
I use estus + lloyd's rings
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>>169427529
You think that's a lot? I have 2000+ in DaS1 alone and it's not even my favorite
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>>169427357
>This is so fucking dishonest that it hurts.

how is it dishonest?

you're the faggot arguing for having bonfires all over the place instead of having just one central bonfire that you loop back to.
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>>169427149
So are you going to reply to my point, or arguing against strawmans is just too comfy for you? What's a acceptable distance for you?
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>>169426865
The talisman and miracle you're using, and having 60 faith instead of 40, matters more than you might think.
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>>169427262
The DaS3 handles them pretty well, I think.

>>169427717
Lol
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>>169427731
are you a wizard?

also which is your favorite?
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>>169427790
I'm not the guy you're arguing against, just pointing out that you're an idiot.
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>>169427734
>having bonfires all over the place
I never said that. Try to argue like a honest person instead of being a faggot and I might take you seriously.

>instead of having just one central bonfire that you loop back to.
False dichotomy. I don't want things to be like Demon's Souls, but I also don't want bonfires all over the place. Again, argue like a decent person.
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>>169427958
>>169427734
Put on trips or names so we can filter you faggots, thanks.
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>>169427262
The parish bonfire and sen's one have perfect distance
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Why does dark souls force me to use melee combat all the time?
Bows/throwing knives don't work on shielded opponents and I can't use magic because there's no way to get spells unless you pick the pyromancer or shit. Where do I have to get to so I can use magic?
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>>169424803
>generic monsters
>humanoids

You've pretty much covered every single possible boss type with these. "Monsters" or "people". What do you want?
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>>169427958
you're arguing that 1:24 run is too long for a bonfire

I'm telling you it isn't and that one of the best areas in DaS3 is cathedral of the deep if you ignore the first bonfire, because it all revolves around the cleansing chapel bonfire.

Irithyll could easily have followed the same formula

there's even a shortcut from upper to lower, they could just have cut yorhska bonfire and put a ladder there instead.
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>>169427882
>t, just pointing out that you're an idiot.
Why though? We're talking about distance, checkpoints and how they affect the gameplay, my example was just fine.
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>>169428219
Don't forget plants and objects.
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>>169428219
clearly he wants more gaping dragon, despite it's mechanics being shit and it only being memorable due to it's unique design
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>>169428330
And spectres?
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>>169427186
ive got a shit build - no tongues - I'm not out to be gud i just want to play the rest of the fucking game.

I really just wanted to see the rest of the story but literally cant unless i somehow just grind leveled 10 to 15 levels and padded my stats all stupid.
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>>169428330
Pretty sure I'd classify animate plants and objects as monsters, myself.
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>>169428396
Couldn't a spectre just be considered a "post" humanoid or monster?
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>>169428440
>no tongues

did you already use them? you find a couple laying about, one in undead village and one in cathedral

also no amount of stats will make you better at dodging the dancers attacks, this isn't like DaS2 where you have level up your iframe stat
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>>169428440
It really just comes down to not getting hit. What keeps killing you?
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Wanting to start a new character on DS3 since I haven't done the DLC yet. Quite fancy doing a cusader/paladin themed character, are there any decent PvE focused Str/Faith builds out there? Haven't played DS3 since release so I'm a bit rusty.
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>>169428470
I mean if we're gonna broaden the definition then we can definitely call humans monsters too

everyones a monster!
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>>169428540
This sort of metaphysical distinction is way above my paygrade, I'm just here to shitpost, boss.
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>>169428742
We all do our time on the firing line, soldier. Keep it up, on the bounce.
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>>169428236
>you're arguing that 1:24 run is too long for a bonfire
a run ignoring everything in between said bonfire, but okay. I'll ask again, what do you consider an acceptable distance? Do you think that the distance between the two tomb of the giants bonfires is bigger? Or that you take less than 1:24 from Undead Parish Bonfire to Darkroot basin bonfire? Better yet, how long do you think that it takes to run from bridge the checkpoint to Tower Knight checkpoint in Demon's Souls?

>I'm telling you it isn't and that one of the best areas in DaS3 is cathedral of the deep if you ignore the first bonfire, because it all revolves around the cleansing chapel bonfire.
Irhtyll Dungeon only has two bonfires, high wall only has two, Lothric castle only has three, Catacombs only have two.
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>>169428620
>str/fai
Literally infusing a mace or Morningstar with lightning or buffing it Lightning Blade is your best option.
This is true for all three games
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>>169428620
18str/14dex/60fai

take your raw dragonslayers axe from cr8

buff it with lightning weapon

do 700+ damage

put on lightning clutch ring since it's only nerfed in pvp and do 770+ damage
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>>169428440
Maybe use a raw weapon but carthus rouge makes the fight a lot easier I think with just that you can beat the dancer. If you get tongues even better
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>>169427228
God damnit Luci now I wanna build this out and I just finished a thief.
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>>169428616
anything and everything?

>>169428578
found them all, used them all. Probably trying to figure out what the fuck they did
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>>169428236
>you're arguing that 1:24 run is too long for a bonfire
And you are ignoring his point
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>>169428892
>nerfed in pvp
not him but wtf i did not know this

so does it do nothing against enemy phantoms basically? what are some other rings that are useless pvp i'd like to know
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>>169428872
Bone fires should be far apart and instead have a series of short cuts that open up to previous bonfires, rather than simply giving you a new one.
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>>169428620
Anything PVE focused is basically just finding a weapon you enjoy and capping the stats it uses.
I honestly don't level faith past blessed weapon because I dislike the way lightning looks, hopefully DLC gives us more angelic shit.

Just take faith up to 40 if you want to use Morne's or some shit.
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>>169428872
and farron keep, road of sacrifice and undead settlement have too many

I dont think it's a point of debate that dark souls 3 has some good level design

but that doesn't excuse the sloppy and shitty level design in other aspects
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>>169429024
But show us your stats, and do you have titanite to upgrade other weapons?
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>>169428872
>three replies mentioning actually well spaced bonfires
>doesn't refute any of them
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>>169429024
You need to be able to identify her different attacks, man. Is it her grab? Her sweep? Why are you getting hit?
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>sprint through area on the fastest route possible, ignoring all enemies, items, and alternate paths
>wooooow why is this area so short, thanks memeazaki
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>>169429231
Stay close to her ass or leg
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>>169429024
>found them all, used them all. Probably trying to figure out what the fuck they did

you can farm them off the dark wraith in farron keep

or you know you could just start by posting a screenshot of your stats and your weapon so anons can tell you what you're doing wrong

>>169429106
there are a lot of rings that are nerfed in pvp, all the clutch rings being one example

same with shit like ring of steel protection

on a dude that's fucking NAKED it changed the damage from like 413 to 400

of course you still take the full damage penalty from the clutch rings though :^)
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>>169429280
>not using hidden body + slumbering dragon ring to avoid all enemies
>not quitting and reloading to deaggro
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>>169429446
>of course you still take the full damage penalty from the clutch rings though :^)
jesus christ. been doing a good bit of PVP lately without any of this knowledge, so thanks. why the fuck did they do this? Did they actually want to make multiplayer a confusing mess?
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>>169425425
It depends on your non-crossbow weapon. It's a build I've been interested in for a while, although I'm planning on an edgier soldier build with the sniper crossbow. Which other weapon would your generic soldier use?
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>>169429024
You can't use tongues. You ever gave them to Rosaria, gave to Rosaria to respec, or you still or have them.
Did you give them to Rosaria?
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>>169429280
we're talking about repeat runs you faggot

no one explores an area more than twice once they're done with it, they spring through it, but apparently that's too much for some faggots and want their bonfires right and the boss so they wont be inconvenienced for a whole minute because they're special little princesses and their time is very important, after all they could be spending it whining on a taiwanese basket weaving forum about their precious video games.
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>>169429280
His point is that once you've cleared the area the first time running through it again is easy because there are no enemies or threats in your path, so he thinks the Distant Manor bonfire is unnecessary. However that exact point is why he's a retard, making the player go through a minute and a half of nothing every run adds nothing but tedium.
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>>169429228
None of the replies were directed at me and that's subjective as fuck anyway. Not to mention that Sen's Fortress, Blighttown and New Londo are the exception in Dark Souls 1, not the rule. Most bonfires in the game weren't that spaced out
>>169429173
>and farron keep, road of sacrifice
I already said that farron keep and road of sacrifices are the only areas with overabundance of bonfires in DKS3 above.

>undead settlement
Nope, it only has three, because again, the one at the beginning is literally irrelevant as so is the boss one.

>but that doesn't excuse the sloppy and shitty level design in other aspects
I'm willing to admit Dark Souls 3 flaws, such as the extreme amount of pandering to Dark Souls, the covenant system or the speed that you can drink estus, but the vast, vast majority of the complaints about too many bonfires on the game are retarded. For the reasons me and the other anons said multiple times already.
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>>169429673
>why the fuck did they do this?

because they really, really, really hate casters, that's why most spells have longer charge times than ultra weapons for close to the same damage but for a higher stat investment
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Is crystal estoc better than crystal knight sword for a sorcerer's melee weapon?
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>>169429828
Distant manor is fine.
Irithyl dungeon could be a little deeper lol. Maybe right before the giant/hoard of fags?
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>>169429840
>For the reasons me and the other anons said multiple times already.

you mean the times that you ignored the counter arguments?
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>>169429741
Fine then, let's take the opposite approach.
There is now an unskippable twenty minute bridge you have to run across after you clear each level before you reach said level's boss fog room.

That should add a lot of GRAVITY and TENSION to your boss fights, since the amount of time it takes to reach the door is directly proportional to your enjoyment of it. Have fun!
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>>169429862
well that just seems incredibly unbalanced. i am gravely disappointed tbqh. and this is coming from a guy who pretty much never uses magic outside of the occasional pyromancy
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>Tfw you really miss Dark Souls II but you don't have money for PS plus and you're too busy playing Nioh to replay DSII while PVP is alive again
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>>169430035
wew lad

go back to skyrim
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>>169430076
Casters can just run away and spam fast spells.
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>>169430076
FP instead of x uses per slot was a mistake just as blue estus
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>>169429673
People abused ringswapping far too much, so they made it less mandatory.
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>>169430161
What's wrong princess, is your time too precious?
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>>169426865
What miracle? sunlight spear does 400 with 40 faith. The least I've seen it do was ~260.
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>>169430379
lightning spear
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>>169430017
When was that? And what arguments? I even replied to the retarded thinking that running through a empty spaces is good level design.
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>>169430076
it doesn't help that casters are fucked by:

ashen estus (seriously what the fuck was from thinking)

having to use 3 rings minimum

are gonna be hurting for stats because they need to level attunement in addition to their damage stat, cutting into their vig and end

most spells being slow as shit and telegraphed as fuck.

I dont get why anyone still pretends to be excited for swordceries, literally just use a normal weapon at that point, it does the same thing but without costing FP

basically the only good pvp spells are: Vestiges, black flame and black serpent

everything else is ass unless you're fighting an opponent that is unaware of you and even then, there are very few invasion sweet spots for SL where you can actually do enough damage to 1shot people and them not being high enough SL to just tank it because they have plenty of points to pump vig.

the fact that split damage is garbage only further hurts them (seriously why the fuck is the moonlight greatsword split damage?)
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>>169430325
I wish someone would call me princess...
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>>169430035
That'd be fine if there were enemies in the bridge
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>>169430161
He has a point though.
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>>169430567
Fine, there's a miniboss you can fight each quarter of the way through it, but they do not respawn once defeated.
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>>169430525
Stop

typing

like

this

it

makes

you

look

like

a

big

faggot
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>>169430567
>enemies in the bridge
20 minute walk over glass-floored bridge with enemies screaming at you from under it?
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>>169430525
>having to use 3 rings minimum
I dont get this, they removed the ring all melee should use (rob) but added more for casters intead of removing them too. What were they thinking?
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>>169430692
I'm telling about respawning enemies dummy. I'd be totally fine with that segment as long as it always had enemies. It'd be pretty cool
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>>169430720
it's a shame the words you type make you look like a prancing lala homoman
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>>169430720
Jokes aside, it's decent.

Otherwise it might be a big text block

However, I agree it can be annoying

Note that it makes you read each phrase.

Conversely, paragraph form can be too dense.

Everyone can skim read those and miss much

Nigger, just chill.

And read the first letter of every line.
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>>169430462
Oh that's shit, you have 40 faith, why not use sunlight spear or lightning stake or even great lightning spear. I mean miracles are shit in DS3 but damage is not the problem.
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>>169430541
Shut up, princess.
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>>169430939
YOU CAN'T SEE ME
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>>169431162
>>169431162
>>169431162
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It's difficult to make good waifus on Souls character creator.
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>>169426865
>40 faith

first of all because you need 60 faith or 60 int for sorcery, seriously they put most of the scaling between 40 and 60

second you're using miracles which means you're fucked, since they do crap for damage EXCEPT if you're using them at daggers range then they do double damage.
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>funny dialogue
>actual personality with motives
>doesn't just exist to be part of the protags harem
>strong as fuck when you actually fight her
So are we all in agreement that Licia is the best Faith Teacher?
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>>169428882
Not so in 3
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>>169431514
>actual personality with motives
She is just a psycho
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>>169429679
Probably just a short sword or some simple longsword, I'm thinking real generic here
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In DS2 which area leads to the windmill zone? I want to play there really badly.

Huntsmans Copse right?
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>>169432714
Yep, after Skelly Lords.
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my "dont give up skeleton" message disappeared. do messages disappear if the same one gets posted a bunch by a lot of people?
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>>169430116
>don't have money for PS plus
>I'm literally 13 years old, please rape my face
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>>169433983
>I'm literally 13 years old, please rape my face

Nope, 18, NEET, mommy won't give me enough money.
I do want my face fucked though...
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>>169434261
>18 NEET
You aren't enough to be a NEET, anon. Wait until 21+ and we can talk.
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