/edg/scg/ #135: ARE MAG edition

First for time will forget the goons

>>169330283
>elite info on top
whatever skronks your donk m8

>>169330530
wrong side of history

>>169330590
>guns on the side of the ship too far back to use gimbal mounts.

Do they even look this stuff over before it is approved? The Sabre was bad, but this is even shittier.

It's ok, I'm sure it will be fixed by at least the second refactor.

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>>169330834
u avin a giggle ?????

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>>169331049
It's almost like they slide backwards for storage or w/e

>>169331096
SCfags seriously need to get on making an ironic and good org before we become the fucking caliphate.

I'm not saying I won't equip a size 4 missile on an Aurora and launch it twenty feet before I impact the side of some solo dad at full AB speed, we just need a better name.

>>169329053
Not really restless with my money. MIS -> Hurricane is only 5 bux and I can just melt that stupid little Arclite Laser Pistol for that, and Bucc -> Base Lancer is 0.

I'm sure the Hurricane will go back on sale again for some stupid events but I worry it will be more expensive then. I probably should just wait for at least the Bucc to be flyable. MISlancer never, of course.

>>169331560
>an ironic and good org
here, I made this but no one joined because it's me
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/PRIVILEGED

problem is every time someone tries they basically have to out themselves and the autists comb the internet for some posting history to use against them and taint the org so no one joins it. the people who don't give a shit about muh anon virtues and just want a chanfag group all went to ved long ago.

>thread ruined

>>169331208
I guess it suits some people's taste. It look like the Ford Taurus of space ships to me. Generic as fuck in every way.

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>>169331208
>fighter that relies on superior fire power and agility to win
>manned turret

have they ever tried to hit something with a turret? even on slow, large craft it's hard to do consistently, on a nimble fighter it's going to be next to impossible

Has there been any controversy about Star Citizen lately? Why Chris isn't being prosecuted?

>tfw can only find unusual encrypted files
>no MEFs

What the fuck are unusual encrypted files anyways? Are these faggots in these outposts hiding encrypted loli porn?

>>169331049
Not every ship needs to use gimbals.

>>169332834
That's exactly what it is.
You're unknowingly collecting a load of horrific illegal porn and trading it to a shifty space ship mechanics for upgrades.

>>169333848
Would you rather have a cramped Avenger-like interior instead?

>>169333914
Absolutely.
The chairlift shit is the stupidest thing ever.

Or here's a wild idea, have an articulated pilot canopy like every fightercraft ever, and then have the bubble turret for the gunner open up so he can hop in and out.

BUT NAH, lets waste a ton of internal volume that could be put to good use on a bulky chair lift rack and the empty space that has to be there for it to pass through.

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>absolutely pig disgusting design
>barely cheaper than a SH

what's the point?

>>169334941
I like it.

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>>169332039
My will is to be the most savage pirate possible. As fun as your org is on it's face, I'm not sure it would further my goals in this way.

I am looking for or are willing to form an org based on the following interests.

>Primary role for revenue and acquiring property must be piracy or protection tax.

>The main goal is the acquisition of property and ships, especially big ones.

>A mutually enforced code of not intentionally destroying ships or killing crew, as the first option.

>Crews that surrender will be spared and provided a means of safe rescue. (This will not only keep dads in check, but will improve compliance, if our reputation for sparing crews is known)

>A secondary role of punishing freelance pirates and griefers. Freelance pirates will pay a heavy tribute to be allowed to operate, griefers that threaten piracy as a profession will be considered hostile.

>Honor within the org. This doesn't mean being nice. This means that if two members have a dispute, they will: talk it out if possible, adjudicate it if agreeable, shoot it out if necessary. All disagreements will be settled, or both complainants will be eliminated.

>Strict separation from 4chan and leddit, at all times. This board will be the primary recruitment spot, at first. It will be a silent understanding in game that we do indeed share a common interest in this bullshit, but referencing it in the open will be an immediately bannable offense.

>No particular rules other than that. Just enough structure to allow for organization and force multiplication without anything to limit personal ambition for those who will take what they want.

Is anyone else interested in such a place? Since we know Spectrum will allow for org rooms, and piracy looks to be actually legit, I'm willing to write a proper charter if there is enough interest.

>Gladius has the aesthetic but the not firepower
>Hurricane has the firepower but not the aesthetic

gladius forever relegated to pretty but useless as usual

>>169336840
Is this real?

>>169337836
It can be. A good name would seal it.

>>169336840

holy shit the autism
you could scoop it up with a spoon

you would fit in with the daddest of the ED dads if you weren't such a griefing PVP psychopath

i am honored to share a thread with someone such as yourself, i salute you and your dreams

>>169338219
The fact that you think PvP is psychopathy is exactly why you limit yourself to mindless boredom and play a limited game with no imagination.

Don't wish for us to go away, anon. Wish for yourself to be better to rise to the challenge.

>>169338720
>The fact that you think PvP is psychopathy

i don't

are you new to this thread?

>>169338875
>such a griefing PVP psychopath
Do you even look at what you type?

>>169336840
none of that sounds savage. in fact it sounds like you've decided to skip completely the savage early stages of organized crime and settle into peaceful bureaucratic mafioso grey business.

>>169339007

i think i got my answer regarding your previous history in this thread
or
you're being obtuse on purpose

>>169338875

looks like you got your answer

>>169339219
>peaceful bureaucratic mafioso grey business
I don't think they will just give that to just anyone who asks.

>>169339264
>i think i got my answer regarding your previous history in this thread
enlighten me senpia. what is my history?

>>169339347

yup

oh well

he'll get the memo soon enough

>>169339442
>enlighten me senpia. what is my history?

brief

>>169339619
>I haven't followed this thread long enough to know some obtuse reference to some excuse as to why someone got fucking owned in the past and shit posted enough to make a meta about it?

Well I guess you got me there, sport.

>>169336840
I wish your organization the best of luck.

>>169339883
>obtuse reference

highly prevalent

>why someone got fucking owned in the past and shit posted enough to make a meta about it

wrong

do not worry your weary head you will soon understand and embrace the dad within you

>>169339970
Thanks. Watching the thread get triggered is all the inspiration I need. o7

>>169340071
>embrace the dad within you
Keep lashing out and reeeing at me, sweetie. It's not going to make that pit in your stomach go away when you see that it is a player in game that is after you. CR has made it a core mechanic, and your days are numbered. You might combat log, but you will never shake that cowardly nature of yours.

>>169340703

i think i can check the box for obtuseness now

why does star citizen have triangle ships?

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can anyone explain this?

>>169341991
google 'perspective'

>>169341991

CIG has always had bland or ugly spaceships outside of maybe 2-3

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>>169341991
I think they were trying to make a corsair but just fucked it up really badly.

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what's going on here?

>>169342335
>>169341991
Go the fuck away, you shitposting mongoloid.

>>169341085
I'm not being ironic or sarcastic, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

I started following because of an SC leak after 2.6 was in evocati. I half converted to edg because I had over 300 hours in ED before and had already put the revolver away once. Going to Quince changed the game for me, but I'm hoping 3.0 for SC is done before I get the revolver out again over fucking engineers. I only have an not engineered FAS and a Hauler. I went to the CG and spammed chat in a sidewinder once, but that's it. I couldn't figure out how to kill anyone, because I wasn't up on the latest ramming shit in a sidewinder meta yet.

I'm punishing the SC dads who post "first" on every thread, who think Connies are fighters, who think soloing an Idris with paid crews will work somehow, who think having some faggot org allows them to RP corrupt police in the PU.

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wait a second, I just figured something out

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what's CIG trying to pull here? Did they really think they would fool us?

need serious discussion here, I thought this game would be the none triangle space sim. Considering refund

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Help

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>>169342516
I knew it!

>>169342479

>I'm not being ironic or sarcastic, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

then i shall repeat myself and say that you will eventually know what i am talking about

there is no anger, frustration or overbearingness
you shall see the VISION as you have once seen the revolver

then

you shall see the dads without and within

(basically some dads like to post on the official forums how people who want to do PVP in Elite are all griefing psychopaths and you clearly did not get the reference even though /edg/ is three quarters shitposting about dads and their dumb opinions)

Also I really hate this "fuck you for being an early backer who wants to trade one ship for another" tax.

Who else /hype/ here for mining turrets? Anyone want to join me in my Asp for multicrew mining?

Who here has spent more than $2000 for ships in SC? I do but I'm not proud of it. I still think of it as an investment.

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>>169343397
I think of it as a donation not an investment, you're going to be dis appointed if you're expecting a return, no game is worth $2000.

>>169341991
The visions are converging

>>169343397
Instead of triangle ships, you could have bought triangle numbers. With two thousand dollars, you could have 62 triangle numbers.

Why manned turret

>>169342987
>people who want to do PVP in Elite are all griefing psychopaths
That's why I went when another anon posted to go fuck with dads at the community thing. That was the first time I played in months. I realized I wasn't anywhere near equipped to properly grief, so I set out to Quince. Now I got an FAS and foot in the door with engineers.

Sounds like we had a little miscommunication. I fully support non consent PvP in open games. Breaking Point was the most visceral PvP game I've played so far. I'm hoping SC can get that brutal when you have tense space standoffs with capital ships on the line.

>>169343715

>i dont want to play a multiplayer game with other people

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>>169342935

>>169343753
Why manned turret on a dogfighter

>>169343715
Because they didnt want to give 2xS4 + 4xS(whatever the turret is(some images have combines(S4 Some have Sawbucks(S2 I think)
To a single pilot, that would be hilariously OP and gamebreaking.

>>169343838
They're probably trying to make some buddy ships where a second player can join you and shoot shit up. Unfortunately with the way ships fly, especially nimble fighters, turrets just don't work properly. Maybe CIG has a plan in the future to properly overhaul both the turrets and the flight of the ships to make them work well together. As long as that Hurricane has the ability to twist and turn on a dime, that turret gunner is gonna have a bad time.

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Pic related.

>>169344139
Unless he's AI.

>>169344638
An NPC cannot shoot at something that is on the opposite side of the craft half the fight, unless they just say fuck it and give the NPCs wallhax and shit.

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>>169343836
>and a pirate spawns on top of him

Why the fuck can't I just leave my limpets in my miner, why do I have to discard them when I want to switch ships. Why cant the game track cargo in ships instead of forcing you to transfer cargo and dump all drones

>>169346912
Because they don't want to save that data because there are no real servers. Fuck you.

>>169347013

They can obviously keep track of all my ships scattered about the galaxy and their loadouts, how much difficult could it be to have them also track what each ship is carrying?

>>169347202
Non-zero. You're lucky they even let you own multiple ships and that they weren't like modules before.

The dads would scream it's more realistic.

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>>169344139
One of the devs said in Spectrum today that they plan on overhauling turrets then after they complete that then allow turrets to be slaved to the pilot.

>>169347202
Because VISION or something. Just go and complain about it no the forums, have the dads tell you to just use the feature as it is and that it doesn't need changing, realize the futility of arguing against anything in this game, then uninstall until 3.0 so you can repeat the cycle.

>>169347560

What the fuck is with SC and its obsession with turrets? Why does everything need a turret?

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>>169336840
My will is to be the most savage pirate possible. Your org looks like carebear shit.

>Primary role for revenue will be theft.

>The main goal is making profit and hurting others.

>A mutually enforced code of "By any means necessary".

>Crews that surrender will be stripped of all items and value, arbitrarily murdered, rescued, toyed with as is fit. This will keep our reputation unknown and unquantifiable, some will have good, bad or inbetween experiences.

>A secondary role of hunting complainants and decriers, to instill fear.

>Honor within the org, or until you are usurped by an underling.

>Strict no association with extra-game communications.

>Structure is biggest is boss.

Ftfy.

>>169346912
>load your full cargo type9 with plenty goods in some station
>hop in your >asp with 2000ly per jump
>reach destination in a jiffy
>transport type 9 for like 1k credits
>logoff
>come back later
>ez money's
they're just lazy and don't want to implement per-dock storage

>>169346912
>Why cant the game track cargo in ships instead of forcing you to transfer cargo and dump all drones
I suspect that it's related to why you can't store cargo at a station.

>>169347013
>Because they don't want to save that data because there are no real servers
That sounds likely. If a player started leaving cargo lying around the galaxy, the size of the data for that player could get pretty big, pretty quickly.

I'm a DB dev irl, I'll write a little about how I see their DB needs.

As it stands, a player record is pretty small, it's limited to a few ships and their configuration data and one shared storage (right? I'm a noob in-game). Since ships are expensive, we know that the number of them will be small, it's not like you'll have thousands, the order of magnitude on ships is probably going to be tens. Even years from now, few players would have a hundred ships lying around. Probably just a few dozen haulers/sidewinders on some mission-exploit planets and then their main stable of ships which get moved around when needed.

On the other hand, a few years from now players will have visited thousands/tens of thousands of stations.

Because the game is funded up-front and not on subscription, recurring costs need to be minimised. Subscription games can pay for a large DB server from Amazon with the fees from 2 players. It takes the sale of one copy of Elite to pay for the same server for about two months.

So they need to keep data sizes small, even at the expense of complexity and development time. Because Frontier are an old-school company with some very old-school devs, I can make predictions about how they might do it.
...

>>169347560
I'm just not sure how overhauling only turrets will be enough. A gunner can't really shoot at someone or something when an air craft is doing barrel rolls constantly

>>169348257
>...

Every module on the ship could be encoded as a number; it has its base type, module slot, engineer modifications and damage.
Those are just prime numbers that you multiple together to get one number that uniquely identifies that module configuration. The ship itself is nothing more than a type, a set of modules (including paint and bobble-heads) and hull damage.

These can all be stored pretty easily in a binary record that might be compressed first (probably not a good ration on compression though). When the pilot enters the game or changes ships, the ship record is retrieved and decoded and stored temporarily in a more usable format in a cache on the actual game server until a significant change happens to it or the pilot disconnects or changes ships when it gets encoded and written back to the DB. Repair could be written back to the DB but there's no pressing need for damage to be written back, it happens too often and nobody will complain if a server rollback causes their damage to be undone.

Cargo would be something similar but the number of stations to save data at (and unique cargo is another problem) is at least two orders of magnitude larger than the number of ships people would have so the data would expand rapidly and become a significant burden on our unfunded DB servers.

In business terms, using one-off revenue to pay for recurring costs is insane so you'd have to expect that game design will be shaped around minimising recurring costs, which means that complex server-side calculations and data storage cannot be a part of the game in its current form.

>>169348171
>they're just lazy and don't want to implement per-dock storage
It's not laziness, it's business. Their current business model would not survive per-dock storage unless they're selling a lot more copies of the game than we know.

What do I name my LTI 890 Jump?

I'm thinking something involving Trump memes, but on the other hand, I'd like to have a pretty name. I'm torn.

Also black hole worshiping death cult when?

>>169348157
>>169336840
I just want to be a smuggler.
I'll carry a cargo hold full of kidnapped oriental slave children surgically filled with all the illegal drugs as long as it'll pay good.

>>169348157

absolutely savage

>>169348157
>Primary role for revenue will be theft.
There is a limit to that. The real joint is to get them to hand over the ship and cargo willingly. If you can back it up unequivocally, you can take the ship and cargo without a shot.

>The main goal is making profit and hurting others.
You can't constantly punish. If you beat the dads too much, they will revolt and cry out for a nerf. If you fuck with their heads, you can control the willing among them completely. There will always be people to fight.

>A secondary role of hunting complainants and decriers, to instill fear.
No problem with that. Just got to make sure that they fear you and not just hate you.

>usurped by an underling.
org is based on avarice, what can I say.

>Strict no association with extra-game communications.
this should probably be at the top.

>Structure is biggest is boss.
Piracy will devolve into senseless griefing, unless we steer it's path. Carebears are our biggest threat. That is why now is the time to establish how this will go down.

You mistake my kindness with weakness and that's ok, just different style that's all. I think we are speaking the same language.

>>169349295
Logistics will be critical. The tip of the spear won't have much cargo room.

>>169349431
I wouldn't worry too much about piracy dying out due to care bears.

Chris will try to accommodate them, but he's said before that he himself would either be a bounty hunter or pirate. Our concerns should be in his fore brain.

>>169349586
I'm pretty confident after they described how the game would spawn piracy missions to counter the trade runs and other missions. I just hope it is not some shallow bullshit, but allows you to finish the mission several ways.

>>169343502
>>169343687
I don't know I just want the game to be good and the game to be such that I can live my life there

>>169350923
My biggest concern has been with NPC traders.

Hull ransoming will probably be the name of the game, so if we can't flag them down and negotiate a fee not to blow them up, we're forced to raid them where we wouldn't be with a player.

That'd be mighty gay.

>>169351337
Depends on what the hull is worth. May be a better use of time to blow them up, sell the salvage data, and move on.

>>169351507
True. I'm gonna be rolling with a small crew though, so the less heat that's on us, the better.

Of course, if they don't comply, we'll have to blow them up. Can't go earning a reputation for being a pushover.

>>169351758
That's what I meant earlier as "the first option." I'm taking the ship and cargo. Whether it is intact or in pieces is up to the unfortunate soul who meets me.

SPACE

LEGS

WHEN

>try to find a decent group in the forums to join
>most that are still active are well-established fuckhuge groups, hate huge groups due to experiences in EVE and other MMOs
>one of the top groups actually says that most members are older as in literal dads
>other groups are exploration and extreme roleplay groups, end-game ASP tier

This is probably the worst fucking place to ask, but is anyone here in or know of a group that does maybe some light roleplay but just shoots the shit while helping with shitgineers and things like that? Some mission stacking, occasional roleplay, you know, things in this game that are actually fun. There's one Fed group I'm looking at but again they're an avid PP group and I hate Powerplay with a passion so I don't know if they'd spaz out on me if I didn't want to do PP with them.

>>169357959

>occasional roleplay

I meant to say "occasional PvP." I've never really done PvP other than nearly wasting the fuck out of an Anaconda that decided to interdict me while I was in my Dropship. Ganking newfriends and pulling pranks on people isn't really to my taste either so SDC is out of the question, that and they all look like le epic /v/ shitheads that spout memes all day on Discord.

>>169357959

I'd be very interested in this as well. I want a private group with people I can shoot the shit with, do some casual bounty hunting in a wing with or multicrew when that drops. Basically people who don't take the game too seriously, but not so lightly that it turns into a giant memefest with 3 other people in it. Somewhere /comfy/ so I can sit and waste my life drinking beer and whining about the game we're currently playing and hop into when I want and not have it devoid of live (solo) or barely alive (open).

Am I asking for too much?

Ahahahahhaa

Disco Lando | CIG@DiscoLando-CIG10:58 pm
Basically production has to cull all the relevant data, go through IC reports, see what worked, what didn't, what still needs fixing, make priorities, then examine progress on intended features, put that all into some production calculus that's way over my head, and then spit out a schedule. Some patches take longer than others, so I don't know when the first version of the 2.6.2 schedule will be ready, but I don't think it's gonna be tonight.

>>169359380
This is just makes them look bad.

How do you use an AFM?

>>169360658

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Auto_Field-Maintenance_Unit

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So I'm at 75 million

What ship should I be going for for general combat?

Someone recommended the Vulture a while ago, although I'm not sure how I feel about the hard points, having only 2 large seems kind of limiting, although I really only use Railguns

Seems the federal assualt ship is nicer on the hardpoints, but then I'd have to spend a ton of time grinding ranks right? Why don't they just have a black market where for 200% of the cost I can avoid grinding ranks to get the ship

Thanks

>>169364568

Seeing that the advantage is only 2 medium HPs, I'd say trading the Vulture's awesome mobility for them is not worth it. The only thing the Vulture is "lacking" from being a perfect fighter is forward speed and powerplant capacity, both of which can be remedied by engineers or powermanagement or practice. I'd say try the Vulture first, and if you really don't like it, try the assault ship. The Vulture isn't for everyone, it has a niche playstyle.

trying to install 2.6.1 and it just stops downloading after a while

anyone have this problem

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>>169332039
>>169336840

Can we resurrect ARCHON DELANE in star citizen?

>>169365181
Seems to have pretty good shields as well, Guess I'll start searching for one tomorrow

>>169359380
>tfw just expect 3.0 by the end of the year

Don't even give a fuck.

From what they've shown and what they are telling, the game's exceptionally complex, with many different systems interacting with each other and the player, plus all the assets, plus the netcode, plus animations, plus a whole single player campaign.

I mean, I want to play it now, but given the scope of the project in perspective, I'm not surprised it takes so much time.

>>169365382

https://ed-td.space/en/18/Find+Ship/system/17072/ship/17

Try to buy it in systems that are controlled by Li Yong-Rui. You'll see who the controller of a system is (if any) when mousing over/selecting it in the galaxy map. He gives a 15% discount to everyone buying ships in his systems.

>>169365843
Was about to ask about a search function, thanks

not really worried about 15% savings

I'm at 16% Pioneer. Any idea how many more credits I need for Elite.
I know I'm crunched for time, Sunday basically.

>>169366462

The discount applies to modules as well. A-rating a ship will cost several times the price of the ship itself. You'll save millions even on a ship like the Vulture.

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>>169366462
>>169368442

Also your insurance rebuy is based on what you paid for everything so that'll go down by 15% too.

>>169366987
84 million.

>>169344602
>same forward firepower as a starfarer
>*provided your gunner can hit things

you're gonna get smoked the second you fly straight and level to line up shots, you have less defence than an aurora

Haven't been here in 6+ months. What's the latest on Star Citizen? when does 3.0 come out?

Also, when does the multicrew for Elite come out?

>>169370440
3.0 came out December, it has the Crusader system in it, with a rudimentary cargo/trading system, procedural planets, network overhaul (MASSIVE performance improvement), and some other stuff I can't think of right now.
They also showed a fantastically looking 1-hour-demo of Squadron 42, I mean I never was into the campaign but holy shit it looks nice, their solution for making NPCs less "stiff" and really react to you really really works.

>>169370440

>multicrew

SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY

>>169370440
>when does 3.0 come out?
It's a mystery.

>when does the multicrew for Elite come out?
Soon. Beta is Sunday.

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>friend gets me to buy the game
>first night
>arguing over which buttons do what because I don't know
>figuring shit out
>launching my ship and doing transport shit
>get lost in space and find my way back
>friend invites me to wing
>we find out about the coms system
>drop skype and stick to coms
>I end up miss planning fuel and have to SD
>try again
>nearly at the drop off and I believe I get pulled out of warp
>manage to escape the pull and end a bit away from the location I need to go safely
>drop my shit off and get my money
>call it a night


I'm hooked, this shit is good.

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>>169373581
How badly did I fuck this up being my first try and no clue the fuck was going on?

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>>169373581
>>169374312
oh you naive child.
turn back while can, unless you are truly ready to receive the VISION

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>>169374890
Too late I believe, I ended up spending like 10 minutes trying to get to some "LTT 15899 Excess Mass". Didn't realize how far away it was and that I wasn't going to reach it without jumping and didn't have enough fuel to do it.

After that I got stuck 1 jump out from my mission with no ports in the area with 6.24LY worth of fuel left and the system being 6.4 away.

I found a system at 6.1 and jumped to it, landed damn near on the sun burning up and the system had no one in it but a massive gas planet which I couldn't really reach. I then ran out of power, had 3 minutes of air I used to find out how to SD my ship and was burning up in the last minute being so close to the sun without power.

Again I believe it's too late.

>>169348171
i can not imagine a less effective way to make money than that
the only possible reasonable way that might work is with an infinite supply of rares

>>169375342
be happy that your death "such a cinematic" one
my first death was thanks to a full station and my air running out because my canopy was breached

goddamnit braben fix your shit

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>>169342479
> who think soloing an Idris with paid crews will work somehow
Are you one of those autist who expect to board a 40 npc capital ship by yourself?
It's one thing to mock pay-to-private-army it's another to want to remove end-game feature because some retard kid believe they'll all be org leaders and not the expendable red shirt.

And yes I say that because I want to man capital ship alone or with friend
unless Private server or Squadron 42 allow to do all that with coop, but that would still be a loss

>obligatory pic

>>169349116
Call it "Mar a lago"

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This might be of use for those bothered with rank grind for Federation.
You need a lot of spendable credits (in the excess of a hundred million at least)
You need to go to 17 Draconis.
Either before or after the trip fill your transaction tab with missions of any type from any faction. I'll call this number henceforth bracket 1.
You need to refresh the mission board until one of the federation factions spawns several donation missions, henceforth called bracket 2.
The size of bracket 1 will be dependent on how lucky you get with spawns for bracket 2 - since the most reliable number of donations spawned at the same time for me was 2 I stacked bracket 1 to 18.
After you pick up those donation missions you will need to accept one other mission from another faction at that station. It is imperative that the filling of bracket 2 and selection of a mission above the mission limit is done in within a single mission board refresh.
After you select the mission above the mission limit you will get the limit error.
At that point you hand in the missions from bracket 2.
You then try to accept the mission that gave you the limit error beforehand.
The game should give you a mission board error.
You then go back to the main station menu and open the mission board again.
The missions from bracket 2 should respawn so you can pick them up again.
Repeat until you run out of credits or a rank advancement mission spawns so you can do it and see how your progress bar increases.
This should hold for Empire but I don't know of any good system that spawns donations.
I just did about 12 loops with the same 25k donation missions about 15 minutes ago.

>>169377006
The trick itself has been posted a long time ago but I couldn't find a detailed enough writeup. Here's my up to date take on it.

>>169375342
post cmdr name sometime anon, would wing up

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>>169333848
jedi starfighter memories

>>169344602
The Combine models on the turret are placeholders. It's supposed to have quad S3 Broadswords, but those are currently getting reworked/updated as per the most recent ATV studio update from F42 Frankfurt.

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>tfw paid back my legacy fine from old robigo exploit

I'm now free of my sins

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>>169358386

I think we're just not meant for this game, anon. The only thing I'd say possible would be to try to start a group of /edg/lords but that's already been tried before and I think it'd be best if we didn't turn this general into a metafriending namefagging memefest. I might try joining one and posting it for anyone interested but holy fuck this would be so much easier if they introduced a proper guild/group system. You know, like people have been fucking asking for since the game came out.

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>>169377509
>Broadswords, but those are currently getting reworked/updated
I forgot how bad the old weapons look.

>>169377006
Also Tun has some donation missions for Feds.
As long as at least 1 donation mission spawns you're fine.

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>>169377218
Mike Linegod. I'm not much of a combatant, always enjoyed transport pilot stuff and exploration.

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What should I do with 70 store credits?

>>169378581
Buy 7 $10 gift cards and give it to anons in this thread.

>>169378730
Can't gift anything bought with store credits, not even gift cards.

I want to gift myself some SPACE LEGS

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>>169378581
Cutlass?

>finally get decent frames in star marine
>not enough people join to start a match

looks nice though

>>169378581
You SC peasants are poor af. I have over 3 billion in assets, and all you can whip together is 70cr? This is why Elite will forever be the better game, we have literal billions and you plebs have pocket change.

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Hurry up with pets, CIG!
>tfw no little co-pilot to keep me company

What's the best experimental mod for Beam Lasers?

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Does anyone really expect to see 3.0 before August?

>>169387648
Yes, but next year XD

>>169387648

There won't be a 3.0. CIG will feature creep it until it becomes 4.0. I guarantee it. Release date early 2018 which will then get postponed to winter 2018.

>>169387749
TheAgent pls

>>169388524

History is on my side.

>>169376531
Depends. Do you think having one player on a ship will make it more capable than a full NPC ship? I've got all the help I need to take down any ship I want. The question is, do you know enough people to protect your ship? The way I see it, you have to be lucky every trip. I only have to be lucky once.

>>169388901
gimme proofs you proofless fag

>>169389205

Heard of star marine? Or how about SQ42?

>inb4 "but they just mismanaged star marine! It's not the same"

>>169387648
>before August
Most likely. The more relevant question is when are they going to finish the netcode? The rest of production is dragging due to them not figuring this stuff out. We have ships being released that should have come with a much higher version number then we are on.

>>169389503
>goon pls
You mean the Star Marine I'm playing now? Yeah it was delayed, but it is here now. SQ42? Who knows, but keep memeing. Watching the goons get btfo with every release is great.

LOD will never be playable or finished.

>>169389503
>Heard of star marine
i'm playing it right now
Or how about SQ42
Yep, q1 2017 .

>>169389658
You mean the star marine that was delayed cataclysmically? How many years was that postponed for again?

>>169389791
>SQ42 q1 2017

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>169388936
>Do you think having one player on a ship will make it more capable than a full NPC ship?
In theory yes, in practice you'll have a lot of newbies and straight up idiot.
But keep in mind that NPC are usually nerfed to be balanced. If you made aimbot-npc capable of managing shield/other with inhuman efficiency the game wouldn't be fair

>I've got all the help I need to take down any ship I want. The question is, do you know enough people to protect your ship?
What are we supposed to answer ? "No my capital ship should be invincible against appropriate anti-cap forces" ?
That's not the point.
NPC capital ship will exist, players will be able to pay enough npc-crew to use capital ship with equal/greater efficiency.
If you can field player or npc squadron of torpedo bomber good for you.
None of us want a few retards in a cutlass be any threat to a military frigate ship (an Endeavor I don't say)

>The way I see it, you have to be lucky every trip. I only have to be lucky once.
I fail to see a logic in that unless you believe that players should have magical advantage over npc.

>>169389820
>delayed cataclysmically
>cataclysmically
I'm not up on the latest cataclysminations but I like making up words too.

The biggest cataclysm here is you, anon. No one is still backing that unironically thinks like a goon. The fact that there is a big old world out there and you are satisfied with talking about a game you hate with people who don't like you shows you are a fucking retard.

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>>169390240

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cataclysmically , cat′a·clys′mi·cal·ly adv.

>be shitizen drone, IQ 50 tops
>man on the internet uses common parlance
>DATS NO WORD MAKING WORDS UP
>promptly BTFO by the superior human
>still believe SC will get delivered, even after it is shown that me no so smart

Can't make this shit up.

>>169390818
>forever a goon
>unable to interact with real society, so need to find a place to sperg out.
>can't afford a proper gaming pc. no money for a game, if I had one.
>killing time waiting on tendies to be done
>yell at people on the internet, because that's how you prove intelligence
>out one of the posters for a comment unrelated to the game
>unable to actually counter his argument, so post tiny thumbnail
tfw you read the first letter
tfw you will never afford nice things or have disposable income
tfw when leaving your mom's basement is a life shattering event.

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>>169390818

Not him

On this board, everyone who is even mentioning that CIG wont get to release anything big this year is a Goon.

Star Marine was delayed for a very long time, and both SQ42 and 3.0 will be delayed for even longer.

IF they actually release SQ42 and/or 3.0 this year, both of them will be pretty barebone and only being SQ42/3.0 in the name and not in the features.

I'm not gonna call the SC fanboys drones or anything, because I really REALLY look forward for the game which makes me feel like a fanboy too, but with a healthy dose of sceptisism in some degree.

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>>169391653

not him

But for crying out loud.
Look at CIG's release history. NOT the patch numbers, but the features.

Everything is delayed beyond all hope.

If you want proof on everything the "goons" or whatever you wanna call them, look no further than the RSI site.

Would be funny comparing the RSI site info on the Wayback Machine at archive.org and you should easly see a pattern.

>>169391964
You're not wrong, but here is the final thing to remember.

Everyone who is still backing wants the best game, however long that takes. The whole point of the KS was to not have a publisher and not have deadlines, so they could take the time to make what has never been done.

Goons can't get over this. The hear one date and sperg the fuck out five minutes after midnight, when it was only a target to begin with. I want 3.0 to be good more than I want it by a particular date. CIG is showing their progress, and there are no serious complaints left. 2.6.x patches needed to happen, anyone who played could see that. Once 3.0 comes out, the pipelines are done and content production goes to full volume. This is just the worst of the deserts.

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>>169391653

>Be Shitizen drone
>Glorious emperor Roberts unexpectedly demands I download his latest 'attempt' at a game over the phone
>"b-but I already downloaded it s-sir"
>"THIS VERSION IS DIFFERENT, SUICIDE IS NOW WORTH -200 POINTS. NOW DO IT OR I WILL NEVER REWORK THE AURORA"
>"o-ok sir" - he hangs up
>Hurriedly boot up sputtering and damaged gaming PC from days of cryengine abuse
>open launcher
>Sure enough, 2tb patch
>Briefly consider not downloading it, as my internet is only 2mb/s
>suddenly there are loud sirens and screeching tyres outside of my house
>Shitizen defence force has arrived; they detected dangerous levels of treachery from the mind reading device they implanted from when I first pledged my life savings
>The Derek Smart readings were off the chart
>I can hear my door being busted in below
>the phone starts ringing, ear splitting shouting downstairs
>I rush for my star citizencon card in case they think I'm not legal
>Bedroom door smashes open
>"CITIZEN, I HOPE YOU'RE NOT TROLLING. SHOW ME YOUR PASS"
>"N-no sir, y-yes sir, here it is"
>Glorious Roberts is here in person, in a spandex jumpsuit
>"HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS, PEASANT?"
>"N-no sir, I just was w-wondering if I should wait until the next feature release"
>Roberts' eyes bulge with rage, his face is turning bright red
>"WHAT DO YOU MEAN FEATURES?"
>"W-well I thought th-"
>BANG he shoots me in the gut
>he shoots again and again because it takes a least 100 rounds to kill a man
>Lights fading, my vision is going dark
>I think back as to whether it was all worth it
>It was not
>die

tfw you read the first letter
tfw it makes no sense to you, but you don't notice because you're illiterate anyway
tfw you lose the meme war

>>169392527
nice pasta. saw it a few days ago.

>>169392649
On the subject of pasta, does anyone have the one where anon meets Chris Roberts in the store?

>>169392649

One must exploit good munitions.

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When do you think they will reveal the next space bike?

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>>169394438
Why do we need more than one?

They should make a space bike using the style of the prowler.

>>169394564
It would be nice for the contrast. I'm sure that is the ship they can't talk about that has been referenced several times, the first being the pic above last Dec.

>>169373581
Congrats. You're already at the highpoint of your experience with Elite. Once you realize that the game has little offer beyond the shiny coolness of the first few hours you'll be as bitter as the rest of us grinding away credits while we shitpost because we're self-hating autists.

>>169374312
Every ship in ED has shit for yaw for some reason. Probably to try and replicate plane controls but there's no reason yaw thrusters can't be as powerful as roll thrusters logically.

Anyway, roll so that the escape vector is on your pitch axis and you'll be able to stay on it easier.

>>169394646
The Dragonfly has a cruiser seating position. I hope the next one is more like a sport bike. Herald speed with cool fairings.

So I have seen a couple of people on Spectrum mention a new ship for bounty hunters, but it's just rumours. Have I missed a hint from CIG or is it literally nothing?

Fuck me why are turrets so useless? Mining in an Anaconda and trying to defend myself feels pointless because no one gives a shit about turret damage OR a fighter. They just rail until you get annoyed enough to reset the instance.

>>169392712
I saw Chris Roberts at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>169398063
cool story bro...

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BMM when?

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>>169398063
Thanks

>>169398327
in two weeks

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>>169400867
Nice dog. You dont do anything weird to him right?

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>>169400867

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Ahahahahhahahaha...

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>>169403729
mfw this is true, even if the "leaker" is a fake.

>>169403729
lot of russian contractors at cig?

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>>169403729
I've said if before: StarCitizen will make history. If it succeeds and if it fails.

>>169404162
no, just ЯUSSIИ anon

>>169348157
You have my (You)'s

>>169365367
rate limit your upload (it's in the options of the launcher), reset your connection, reset your router. in that order.

If all else fails turn off p2p downloads in the options, this will reset your download progress.

>>169404576
well it's already 'made history' insofar as it's been the highest grossing crowdfunded project in any field for like 3 years running.

>>169404576
It's certainly made history with the huge amount of shitposters that are constantly trying to call it shit. Is there any other game in existence that has had as many trolls trying to kill it? Maybe WoW?

>>169402609
what a loyal wife till she gets half

This is cool, I hope they do this next Friday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSDsKT3xDQg

Did they fuck up missiles again in 2.6.1? Can't hit anything with Marksman and Dominators.

Any anon know of any deal on the base game atm? 25€ is not bad but i ain't got much to spend lately. Should have got the game in the last steam sale. Probably getting it regardless.

>>169408632

all women are loyal anon, until they want half

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This should be thrown in the jaypag productionator.

10/10 design.

>>169420373
That Corvette looks pretty fun. I might just go back go back to Quince.

>>169330590
ugly as sin

literally who thought it was a good idea to change from the previous design, which was definitely anvil, and definitely looked like a 1 up from the hornet

this thing is some wonky cartoon jetsons shit and the only thing anvil about it is the wingtips and nose stolen from the hornets and gladiator

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>>169342978
those sons of bitches

What happens if SC fails?

>>169402609

highest quality 1st-party content to come from this general right here holy fuck

>>169394564
i'd trade one of my 2 Dflies for the other one, but only if it's ~$35 and basically the ricer crotch rocket of SC

ofcourse we all know it's gonna be like $60 and way overhyped

>>169387648
3.0 is a milestone where X features have been implemented

2.6 to "3.0" will be dozens and dozens of patches where things come online when they can. people have been getting real tired of waiting 4 months for a 30GB patch to DL that is still unplayable and clearly not ran through any meaningful QA process pre-PTU

so expect 2.63 through 2.99

>>169423613
>stolen
oh no, they're reusing manufacturer-specific styles/assets

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Has anyone else tried the Strife mass driver and Suckerpunches together? They are both the highest outright damage for size 2 and 1 respectively. Idk what distortion damage is, but it seems like it pairs well with with the mass drivers. I wish the Sledge IIs weren't bugged in the store. Are there any ships with those stock I can rent and steal from?

>>169428949
>Idk what distortion damage is
Only damages shields and causes power loss when you apply a lot. The Avenger EMP shits out like 100k of it.

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>>169429507
>Only damages shields
That's what I was hoping for. I figured the lightning effect on the shields meant the mass rounds should hit harder

>>169428949
>I wish the Sledge IIs weren't bugged in the store.
What's wrong with them?
I think the 325a came with one as a nose gun, Sabre Comet has 2 of them. Though they were pretty shit when I tried them on the Sabre in 2.6.0.

>>169430202
You can rent them, but they don't show in your inventory. They show correctly on the website.

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Does anyone have the SC/ED stitched cockpit view OP image?

>>169423948
we all play elite

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>RSI will never have a proper fighter
feels bad man

>>169348845
Interesting stuff, thanks anon.

>>169435960
I remember seeing that thing when I was looking at the fanmade ship subforum a while ago. Didn't it have some sort of retarded rear bottom glass canopy?

>>169435960
that looks fucking awesome, what is it

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ugh i love a big gassy planet unnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnffffffffffffff
just a big ol planet filled with gaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssss

>>169437548
stop

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>>169437548
/scg/ reminds me of this but with spaceships instead of thicc girls

>inna tradeconda
>464 tonnes of cargo
>get interdicted by a vulture, submit
>disruptive mass: 23

what the fuck

is this some new vulture made purely out of uranium

>>169438271
never understood the last part

>>169438820

i guess because it's only the 12th and there will be more character reveals?

>>169423948
How can it fail? It's a huge commercial success before it even releases.

>>169377361
Too aerodynamic. There should just be some atmosphere-only ships in the game anyway, why not this one?

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What's the best manufacturer and why is it MISC?

>God-tier
Faulcon DeLacy
LAKON
Whatever shitizen company made that long cargo ship
Core Dynamics

>Shit-tier
Everyone else

>>169440527

Are we talking about aesthetics? Because every Lakon ship is a big ugly rectangle and the Vulture by Core Dynamics is downright the ugliest fighter craft I have ever seen in any game or other piece of sci-fi.

how THE FUCK do i find rank missions

i've been at 3 different stations in three different systems cycling boards for an HOUR

REEEEEEEEE

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>>169440349
Nevermind, I forgot that this abomination exists.

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the avenger is back to being the better overall fighter than the gladius

silly

>>169422309
>I might just go back go back to Quince
The Quince surface scan missions are Horizons content, aren't they?

>>169440349
Didn't they make the Freelancer, the ugliest ship ever put into any science-fiction media?

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>>169440349
Because function over form and Utility manufacturer that isn't trying to make ships look Intimidating or flashy.

What is the best self contained Multirole/Pirate ship and why is it the G2M Gemini.

>>169435960
Do you think CIG will ever pay for peoples designs?
This one is actually really good and fits the RSI aesthetics very well

I just installed Thrustmaster 16k. At first I was very suspicious of the ugly black/orange tacky plastic thing but when used it for the first time for flying it's pretty great. Playing Space Truck.

>>169441586
>pirate Starfarer
What?

>>169441003
LAKON's simplistic designs are great. And Core Dynamics makes shit that works, not shit that tries to look pretty.

I won't argue against the Vulture being ugly. It performs excellently, but I don't see why it has to be as large as it is. Like, why is there even a second seat in a fighter with only 2 weapons? That's like having an Eagle with a seat stapled on; what would that second person possibly be doing? Why would they come along?

>>169435960
Reminds me of an X-Wing

>>169441930

To man the second stick, silly.

>>169442346
You can man my stick.

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>>169441865
Strip the fuel tanks and replace them with external cargo racks, it can still refuel itself on the go, just no scoop up huge amounts for sale.

Good shields, Armored hull, designed as a Hostile space transport.
Lots of space for a large crew/boarding party, multiple EVA access points for quick/sneaky/safe debarkation of boarders.
Large cargo bay to hold loot and supplies + Potential told hold ground vehicles In cargo bay or potentially in Transport Pods on the rail system
Huge amount of Dakka for a cargo ship.
Large enough to serve as a pemanent self contained base station but also capable of planetside landing for either ground assault or concealment/repairs.

It's is a heavily armed and fairly well armored freighter, and the vast majority of Pirate vessels have been converted cargo ships of some sort.

>>169442552

Not if you're in the second seat...

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Is there a quicker way for me to get to this? Or do I just need to fly to it?

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>>169441572
>being this wrong.

>>169444528
If they get rid of that swivel and put the engines closer into the fuselage it will be perfect

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>>169444427
This is your first taste of the almighty VISION my child.

>>169444427

Why would there be any other way to do it? What, do you want to just be able to instantly warp to any object in space? You realize the whole point of the game is to capture how big space is, right? The game would be boring if we could be anywhere we wanted with the snap of a finger.

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>>169444747
I'm okay with it, because I got this when I hit the system. Followed by Betty going fucking nuts at my heat index and escape velocity.


>>169444774
No, I was just curious if doing the full drive was locked to only star signatures. I tried jumping to another system and locking onto the station directly but didn't work.

>>169444528
I still hate the raised "head" and neck thing it has going on. The ship would probably be 100% fine by me if that had been level with the rest of the ship, but it ruins the whole thing for me as-is. It's borderline disgusting.

>>169444774
You sure jumped to hostile quickly. That didn't even remotely look like a game-criticism question or anything.

>fly too close to sun
>pulled out of Supercruise
>decide to fuck around in fighter while FSD is on cooldown
>hit my Anaconda with 1 shot
>MAIN SHIP POWER DISTRIBUTOR MALFUNCTIONING!
>get back to helm Anaconda
>99% health on all modules
>shit is malfunctioning

Are they fucking serious?

>>169444774
Dadposting should be illegal.

>>169444935
>because I got this when I hit the system

Lol, you're gonna sick of that real quick.

>>169445132
Maybe, maybe not. I spent 1200 hours in Eve just doing transportation and npc trading, so my level of autism is pretty high.

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>>169444935
>>169445232

>naming your ship
>enjoying trading and markets in EVE
>enjoying the little things in Elite

Are you me? I want to protect your smile.

>>169444935

longjumps/h-jumps/inter-system jumps always puts you next to the star with the most mass in the system. if you're so unlucky that your destination is a fucklong distance away from the star you drop in next to, you have no choice but to trek it out there


also, beware of deliberately hostile (ironic) posts aimed at every (reasonable) question you have. you will soon discover the joys of dadposting yourself.

>>169442593
They don't have any idea how boarding will work. step down for a second.

>>169444528
Hijab-the-ship is shitty the moment you get into any of the cockpit seats, anon

>>169445232
Upon seeing your hundredth procedurally generated same system, not even your autism will save you.

First time playing
>Oh shit, that's fucking awesome, look at that star, this is so cool, look at those three stars so close
Hours later
>Oh look at that, the exact same thing I've seen a hundred times now

>been refreshing the mission board in various exotic locales for two hours now
>not a SINGLE FUCKING RANK MISSION


FUCK YOU BRABEN

FUCK

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3.0 can't come soon enough

AC is trash incarnate

>>169447087
Issue with this game is that none of the missions should refresh automatically when you restart the game. All missions should come from the server side and should have a regulated refresh rate.

They should really work on the MMO side of the things and add world chat, trade chat just like other social games have. And also work on the mission structure a lot.

But fuck that I guess.

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>>169447087

Did you go from 99% to 100% or something like that? As in you were slowly doing missions until you hit 100%? Because decimals are tracked as well but the game rounds it up, so it could say 100% even if you actually have 99.4%

>>169447262

I did the donation meme, and I've handed in 10+ donation missions _after_ I hit 100%

>They should really work on the MMO side of the things and add world chat, trade chat just like other social games have. And also work on the mission structure a lot.

>"this isn't even you dirty fucking entitled milennial"

>>169447554

I don't know what to tell you, my friend. Stick in a system that you are friendly in, a lot of times if a mission does show up, it'll require friendly relations. I just stayed in one system and refreshed the board over and over. It took me almost 30 minutes the last time if I remember right, I have no fucking clue why those missions are so rare.

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Is Elite worth the $30 or would it be better to wait for a sale? I'm itching to play something comfy with pic related

>>169448725
Don't buy it; sale or otherwise.

>>169448725
Elite is not really comfy. Check out Rebel Galaxy. The default music is good, or your choice will fit the game perfect.

>>169449034
>Default music is good

Goddamn that music. Flying around listening to blue grass and blues. Goddamn good.

>>169449250
I think Rebel Galaxy should get a mention in the OP. It is only good for two playthroughs max, but everyone should play it.

>>169447698

THREE HOURS'

IT TOOK THREE HOURS

AND I GET THE MOST IRRELEVANT MILQUETOAST MISSION

6.5 LY TRANSPORT OH GOD BE AFRAID

i want to die

>>169449360
It's in the pastebin at the very least

>>169448725
>Is Elite worth the $30 or would it be better to wait for a sale?
If you get it on sale, get the whole package and don't just buy the base game as a loss leader that tempts you into buying the full price expansion.

>>169449360
>I think Rebel Galaxy should get a mention in the OP. It is only good for two playthroughs max, but everyone should play it.

I just found it in my library and installed it. What am I in for?

>>169449950
>What am I in for

Navy combat in space. Blowing up lots of shit. A mediocre story that strings you along. Pretty enjoyable gameplay that is funnily enough enhanced by the music. They allow you to mine but really the main gameplay mechanic is combat, so you'll be doing that. Hint, the lasers are the best

>>169449950
Don't get attached to your ship, you will be moving through a bunch of ships.

Don't rush through it. Spending the time to complete areas will pay dividends later. The game will try to bait you to new areas. Finish where you are before moving on. Backtracking too far is a pain.

>>169450216
>>169450237
Thanks anons. I'll give it a go.
Just as soon as I finish moving to 17D

>>169450407
Travel in RG is a lot faster too. I think it's a 5-10 minutes at most to travel from one end of a system to another while you're in the "hyperspeed" mode or whatever they called.

>>169450526
>"hyperspeed" mode or whatever they called.
that shit is actually pretty fun because you can steer around whatever you don't want to fuck with.

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Hey guys, remember me? What am I up to these days?

>>169450732
Yep. Obvious pirate ambush ahead? Go around it. Of course, the game isn't a space sim so it isn't too extensively unfortunately. I wouldn't mind a sequel to it with a bigger budget. X style, extensive trading, hell everything the game does already expanded upon with the y(?) axis of movement added in.

>>169450851
Isn't he making that 6 DOF game?

>>169451084
It's just a rag tag crew and planetary missions away from being Serenity the video game.

What is the fucking point of upgrading sensors?

The extra 2km doesn't seem to matter with Silent Running and the 3km weapon range

>buy funship at station
>go to outfitting
>NO MODULES AVAILABLE
>current jump range 1.6LY
>nearest system 6LY away

what did they mean by this

>>169452740
Vision™ is great, isn't it?

>>169452842

>transporting it to a better station took 9 minutes and 60k credits even though it could not have moved anywhere

VISION

>>169445409
>not knowing what Bitching Betty is

wtf?

>>169452010

Better sensors increase the angle giballed weapons can track.

Being able to target shit further out is still a thing, and it does affect how far away you can still target cold/SR ships.

>>169444935

Notice that galaxy map button when choosing missions? Click on that to see where the mission objective's system is relative to you, and then open that system and mouse over stations/bodies to check how far your destination is from the arrival point at the system primary. If you don't have the map data for that system you may be able to buy it from the galaxy map, otherwise you'll have to go there with a discovery scanner and/or scan the local nav beacon to map it out.

Anything measured in hundreds of thousands of light seconds is going to take a while to get to.

>>169456807
>Better sensors increase the angle giballed weapons can track.

Fuck me, that's a thing?

>>169458710

there are a shitload of hidden factors within the game that the tutorials will tell you NOTHING about

a ship with a badly maintained paintjob (as in, the lower the percentage of paint job repair) will be more likely to be scanned by system authority ships next to a station

>>169460864
For fuck's sake, why don't they tell you these things in the tutorial where there's a voiced guide and everything?! It'd make for such great content to learn to smuggle with Blaine and how to outfit your ship; basically a single-player game that's you getting your Pilot Federation licensing or whatever.

>>169462090
Money and feature-creep. They can't pay for that much and it might have been conceived after the tutorial anyway.

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>>169460864
It's good thing the factors are there as they make the gameplay bit more deep, even if the other features are still bit lacking. It all makes things bit more lively.

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>>169462431
That's fair, I guess. Still sucks.
I only recently played the tutorials and found that they were voiced scenarios. Most of them are really short and simple, but the potential of the game really shines through in them.

I'm really hoping that after multi-crew, Frontier takes a step back and reviews what's already in their game, aiming to improve what's there instead of adding more tedious and slap-dash bullshit. I hate this game because it's so underutilized; it could be so great, but they don't seem to be slowing down and taking the time to make it great.

Question time.

I figured I'd try a combat mission just to get it out of the way. How the hell do I find these guys? I mean I found two who where in supercruise and I have no idea how to pull someone out of that.

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>>169463524
Forgot to put the screenshot.

>>169463453
They can't slow down. Every bullet point on their business and profit model ends in "until Star Citizen does this"

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>>169463453
Taking good ideas, executing them extremely poorly, and then rushing to make the next one is practically a Fdev tradition at this point.

>>169463649
You need an interdictor module to pull people out of supercruise. They also spawn in Unknown Signal Sources and sometimes in Resource Extraction Sites.

>>169463524
Need to buy an Interdictor module. It can be found in Option Modules. It pulls people out of supercruise.

>>169463649
For THOSE missions, however, you need to go to an actual Conflict Zone (look at your Nav Panel), enter it, select a faction on your Functions tab, and kill the required number of targets of the necessary faction.

Conflict Zones can be a pain if you're not geared up for it.

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>>169463797
>>169463767
Thanks, haven't found them yet with the two I jumped into. Guess I'll keep looking.

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>Aberrant Shield Pattern Analysis
>Scanning Combat Ships (Higher chance in boom systems
>Literally just flying around in Supercruise and scanning ships

This is fucking awful. At least the rest of this shit had some gameplay involved, but holy fuck, 50 for this engineer?

>ED
Is there no way to setup checkpoints or your own personal routes from system to system?

>>169465025
Combat zones might help.

>>169467002
Nope. Vision™

>>169467002
What do you think this is, the future, where automation exists and machines can do calculations?

>>169467094

Thanks to a post on reddit I found some places I'm going to check tomorrow. I need classified databanks for Ram Tah and a few more decoded Emission Data for Tiana

Then I'll be at 19/20 Engineers.

Fuck this bitch who wants me to be Deadly or Elite.

>>169467094
>>169467126
Dang, and one more, how often do you get missions that line up pretty well?

>>169467784
You could cycle between solo and open play to refresh the mission list and get what you want. It works better in some systems more than others.

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>>169463453
Excerpt from internal dev meeting at FD:
>Maybe we should make the core game better, y'know, like adding some depth and game-world impact to things like bounty hunting and trading, or maybe making missions more interesting and rewarding
>Nah, just keep shoveling more half-baked, buggy-ass bullshit on top of the shit heap.
>Y-yes sir mr barben
>By the way, did you know that the stars in our game are based on real stars? That mildly interesting factoid is totally a substitute for game content, right?

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So when are we gonna be able to mount gun pods on missiles hardpoints or swap out gun mounts for MOAR PYLONS.

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>>169463453 >>169463670

I'm not a ED player but from what I know they may not be able to.

ED is built with a bottom-up design with mass procedural generation of content just like earlier Elite game.

But that's its own problem.
In a bottom-up design and large scale procedural generation mean that you can't handcraft some gameplay because it have to be seen by the players wherever they are and keep working even with random variation.
As a result everything is homogeneous and the fun is drown in a sea of average tediousness.

On the opposite, Star Citizen problem with top-down design is that its features will barely be playable until all are added. 80% of the cargo-ship are pointless/broken without the diverse-market that cater only to them, sensor/explorer-ship have the same problem until there's planets/ruins/nebula/wrecks, stealth/boarding-ship can't work until docking+EMP+unsafe trade route, capital ship can't happen until npc-crew is added...and so on.
And if something turn out impossible in the end, whole game is fucked up.


>tl;dr
>computer generating content mean it can fuck it up unless you take no risk
>creating most content by hands take a lot of time just to get it barely playable.

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>>169445090
You got Dad'd, son.

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>>169447160
You'll have to wait at least 6 months for 3.0.
Betting on early 2018.