/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito.

>>169252961
Might be a case of your computer running out of USB ports, if you have shit like a webcam and other peripherals connected.

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>>169253165
And also by the Pardoners.

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Someone explain poise breakpoints to me, and how it changes depending on the weapon you're using.

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Those who play on PC with a DualShocker 3 controller, how do you do it?

I was using ScpDriver for a few days and it was working perfectly fine, but today I tried plugging the controller normally and it didn't work at all, it says it's simply not connected as any pad.

>>169253486
are you needing a quick RUNDOWN?

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>>169252985
>that pic from a couple threads ago finally got used as the OP

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>>169253165

>>169252985
In dark souls 3, I have 25 hollow points. Is it worth taking those off? I did the yuri free 5 level thing

>>169254126
>dark souls 1
>perfect

I wish I had the nostalgia goggles for this

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>>169254037

Hollowing doesn't do anything besides change your appearance, but keep in mind, even if you use a Purging Stone, you'll still gain hollowing points equal to the number of Dark Sigils you have when you die. The only way to get rid of the sigils is to get the Firekeeper's Soul from the top of Firelink, and if you do get rid of them, you terminate Yuria's questline and can't get the Usurp the Fire ending.

Food for thought.

>>169254270
By definition, nothing is perfect. However, Dark Souls 1 is the one that comes closest to perfection, at least when it comes to my tastes.

>Nostalgia
Sure, you could say that. But I could give you pretty solid reasons as to why 1 is my favorite.

Is anyone on xbox able to give/trade me the dual wield scythes from the DLC called Friede's Great Scythe? I run only dual wield stuff and they look sick but i cant afford the DLC. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it greatly.

Gamertag: Earl The Stronk

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>>169253817
>Undead bones may even harbor a kind of memory of the soul

This raises a good question
If even ordinary undead can use Nito's power over death, where are all the liches?
Souls eventually crystallize into lifegems, bodies turn into husks, but bones / bone dust is seemingly eternal, and can be animated.
Why'd no one think of escaping the curse by becoming an immortal skellyman?

Maybe they did, realized how fucked everything was, and built a badass magic bone spaceship and left

>>169254734
I... I was not aware the game was on Xbox...

How active is the game on Xbone?

>>169254532
And you need that ending for an achievement correct? IF hallowing does nothing, then whats the real point of it?

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>>169254946
Hello

>>169255007
about as active as bloodborne is on xbox

>Just finished Dark Souls III
>Want to start NG+, but as another class and gender
>Game lets you change your appearance, but not your gender
This sucks, it was one of the only good additions in Dark Souls II.

>169255007
well i just came back after a few months so idk. was really alive before i left tho.

>>169255336
Blame Anri.

>>169254734
I'll be at high wall soon.

Pass is dsg

>>169255336
somehow I think you're survive

>>169255783
What

So any one got any leaks for the new DS3 DLC?

>>169255336
No trannies allowed.

>>169256025
So any one try reading the OP instead of being a fucking retard?

>>169256025
Yes.

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>>169255037
>IF hallowing does nothing, then whats the real point of it?

Lore.

I'll ask again.

Best waifu builds/sets? for DS1?

>>169256810
Brass Set, fool. There's no other possible choice.

>>169256810
Painting guardian top+balder leggings along with collectors edition thicc thighs

>>169256810
40+ STR with a big weapon wielded by a frail-looking girl for gap moe.

>>169256025
Divine Fusillade of Light

Miracle of the exiled Angelic sect of Lothric.

Fires barrage of scathing rays of light upon a foe.

This miracle is an attempt to transcribe Divine Pillars of Light from memory, but the intent differs, and as such, its application.
The loss of their scripture heavily weighed upon these heretics, and it was not uncommon to see a hollow clutching such scrolls.

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>>169255336
>dark souls II
>good addition

lol

>>169256810
>for ds1

shit nigger

I don't think any exist

What are the best weapons for bleed builds?

>>169258051
Uchi

is meta still 120?

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>>169257702

>>169258051
Onikiri and Ubadachi
Warden Twinblades
Bandit Knife

>>169258051
bleed "builds" do not exist
bleed is a worthless infusion
luck is a worthless stat in regards to status buildup

you just slap carthus rouge on anything with native bleed preferably fast / multi hit weapons

>>169257667
LUL so fake

>>169255336
Too late now but couldn't you just use the tumblr coffin before starting NG+?

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>>169257667
>all the magic spells we find in DLC2 are literally the discount versions of spells we already have

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So after Deacons of the Deep I was told that Aldritch "lies beyond Feron Keep" so does that mean I have to do the Catacombs now or am I missing something? Because I got raped by bonewheel skeletons and an invader NPC like five minutes in so I'm assuming I'm supposed to come back there later.

Why did they fuck blade of the darkmoon so much in DS3?

Could've been the way it was in DS1 and 2 or hell fucking both. But nope

>>169259765
Why the fuck would you post that image?

Fuck off, and yes, you're supposed to go to the catacombs, also if you get wrecked there after the swamp and the watchers, you're shit.

>>169256810
Lautrec's set with dual shotels so it's viable for both PvE and PVP. Go Sorcery for crystal weapon buff and delete enemies.

In fact just dump all your stats into Vit, Dex, End, and Int. As long as you can midroll in the full set you should be unstoppable.

>>169258748
In Dark Souls II yes, I'm talking about dark souls III

>>169260390
Oh, whoops. Yeah that does suck.

>>169254126
If Dark Souls 1 controlled with the same responsiveness as Dark Souls 3 it would be perfect

Only being able to roll in 4 directions while locked on really sucks

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Invasion meta Demon's Fists build.
How do I do it?
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>>169260532
Spam rolling/running attacks if you want to stand a chance, do standing attackings if you want to never hit anybody ever.

>>169256810
Maiden set ot Dusk set with faith build, because waifus must be pure, dignified and devoted.

And nana's never coming back, so step into the cage and become nana's shade.

>>169260846
We're going on an adventure, kids! Now get in the cage.

I'm the only one who thinks that the Nameless King is overrated in terms of difficult? Thought that Dancer, Aldrich, Lothric and Soul of Cinder were all harder than him.

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>>169260961
OH BOY!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-cVImfyuFg

Witness the impossible.

>>169261061
I would at least rate Dancer and Pontiff above him for sure

>>169260846
I miss Nana

>>169261206
Now go say hello to the nice man surrounded by bones

>>169260846
Is nana the evangelists/fat lady's? Why can they speak unlike everyone else who just moans and groans?

STRfu, DEXfu or qualityfu?

>>169261228
There's a video of a guy killing them without taking any hits on NG+7 with a char at SL 1, so that video isn't particularly impressive.

But Lud and Zallen sure is the shittest and most unfair, I mean, the hardest fight in any Souls game.

>>169260082
>Why the fuck would you post that image?
So people would pay attention to my post and answer my question. Apparently it worked.

>>169261453
Dexfu>Strfu because fast weapons are superior. I think that quality builds are a little pointless though

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>mages that automatically force you to fatroll and heat-seeking dragonslayer arrows
I NOW PERFECTLY RECALL THE REASON WHY I DESPISE IRON PASSAGE

>>169261453
The removal of poise makes slow weapons objectively worse.

>>169261558
Not him, but I despise people who do that. Posting images of random whores just so that people acknowledge your post is the mark of a shitposter and a faggot. I always ignore the posts of people who do that regardless of how bad or good the content of the post is.

>>169261453
Which game?

>>169261809
>I always ignore the posts of people who do that regardless of how bad or good the content of the post is.
Wow that's a really dumb thing to do.

>>169261481
Is the run back to the 2cats the longest and most tedious of any boss in these games?

>>169262048
Certainly it can't be longer than the one to Gwyn

>>169261914
Using bait images to have your post acknowledged is something that only shiposters and sluts lusting for attention do and I refuse to reward any of those cancers with useful information.

>>169261061
On top of hitting like a fucking train I'd say NK is generally considered the hardest because he punishes bad behavior to a higher degree than most bosses, and does so in several different ways, which means he's probably going to catch you on at least one of them.

For one thing his first phase is a nightmare if you've gotten into the habit of locking onto everything you face out of instinct, it gives you really poor visibility which makes it hard to hit the head and makes the firebreathing attack tough to notice until you're already well done. Then once you clear that a lot of players will be on edge because they don't want to have to repeat it again just to get back to him proper, making them play worse than they would if it just started here. In regards to his fight itself he has delayed timing on a lot of his attacks so people who spam rolls or just roll based on what they consider the usual timing rather than as a reaction to the actual attack get fucked. Then when they back off to heal he's extremely good at closing the distance to finish them.

I'm probably just listing the obvious here desu.

And all that in mind I still think he's the toughest in the base game, maybe overall.

>>169261586

quality builds are how you play effectively with heavy weapons in this game

>>169261770

nah, poise as it exists in ds3 is one of the few things that's good about big weapons.

what makes them bad in ds3 is how powerful rolls are and that there isn't enough extra damage to make the extra hassle of hitting with those weapons worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIXZZAFVJig

Witness the truly impossible. This furfag struggled more creating this video than you will in your whole life

Nobody told me this so I feel I should make a note of it.

BOULDER HEAVE IS THE BEST SPELL IN THE GAME

It does a shitload of damage, has an AoE effect, and always staggers/guard breaks/knocks down whatever you hit with it. It is a fucking life saver. Get it.

>>169262124
You can't be serious. Not only the run to the two cats is longer, as it's much more difficult to get past by the mobs. Running from those horses is literally impossible and they hit extremely hard

>>169262151
Yeah but I'm not a slut lusting for attention nor shitposting, I'm asking a genuine question pertinent to the topic at hand. So, specifically in what way am I cancerous?

>>169261061
He's sort of overrated but at the same time a fairly good challenge because no super cheesy tactic like parrying exists for him. Without parries both champ and pontiff are much tougher fights for sure though.

The boss that always seemed the most overrated in regards to difficulty to me was the dancer, at least if you're fighting her at a 'normal' point of progression after offing all the LoC.

>tfw told host to go kill himself solely communicating through gestures because he killed havel in adaptability
>madman actually jumps off the ledge to his death

>>169262172
>For one thing his first phase is a nightmare if you've gotten into the habit of locking onto everything you face out of instinct,
It's probably because I'm pretty used to bosses that force you to turn the lock on off in Souls games, so It was one of the first things I did when fighting against NK, it becomes obvious right at the beginning of the fight that locking on is actually counter productive on him, like I found to be the case in bosses such as Flamelurker from DeS, or that annoying Dragon from Dark Souls II for example.

>In regards to his fight itself he has delayed timing on a lot of his attacks so people who spam rolls or just roll based on what they consider the usual timing rather than as a reaction to the actual attack get fucked.
Fair point. I think that's just like you said, he really punishes bad behavior and doesn't let you win just by getting luck, you have to actually get gud. In my case his slow movements actually made him much easier to predict, as opposed to Dancer, which was very hard to predict due to ''fake hits'' and extremely fast attack animation.

>>169262372
You posted a completely unrelated image, that had nothing to do with your post, the thread or ANYTHING. Which added NOTHING to the thread.

Please go back to /v/.

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Every single one of these fuckers died to fucking Havel while I was dueling the invader. At least I got a concord right before I got summoned

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>>169253454
Please respond.

>>169262978
CAN'T STOP THE ROCK

>>169262978
Do enemies get a health buff from blues too? Can't even imagine the tedium of fighting Havel with that much HP.

Dark Souls 3 is better than Dark Souls 2 but I like Dark Souls 2 more.

>>169263029
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/poise

>>169263059
Fair enough, I shall record it in the annals.

>>169262978
>Every single one of these fuckers died to fucking Havel while I was dueling the invader
They got cocky and tried to stunlock him or something.

>>169263059
>but I like Dark Souls 2 more.
Curious to know why. I find 3 better in almost every way

>>169263059
I mostly feel the same way.

I think it has something to do with how DS3 strikes me as a mostly great game stuffed full with little pedantic shit that bothers me to no end. DS2 is the opposite, mostly a mediocre or outright bad game but absolutely stuffed full of little things I absolutely love.

>>169262959
So you're saying that my relevant post was cancerous because it had an image that, while it didn't take away from the thread, it didn't add anything. That is the definition of inert. Also, by your logic, all posts that contain an image that isn't a direct contribution somehow (reaction images, for example, which is almost entirely the point of having an imageboard over a standard text based forum) are cancerous regardless of that post's content.

It's clear you haven't thought this out very much.

>>169261446
They aren't hollow, or at least not fully. They are apart of the Sable Church of Londer under Yuria, pretty much anyone coming from Londor seems to still have their wits.

>>169262498
>in regards to difficulty to me was the dancer,
I had a hard time against her second phase. Mostly because her movements are very fast and hard to predict and she barely leaves any opening for you, or better saying, it's hard to know when it's safe to attack her without getting punished due to her ''erratic'' behavior.

>>169263328
>So you're saying that my relevant post was cancerous because it had an image that, while it didn't take away from the thread, it didn't add anything.
Your attentionwhoring is cancerous, therefore your image wasn't inert.
>Also, by your logic, all posts that contain an image that isn't a direct contribution somehow (reaction images, for example, which is almost entirely the point of having an imageboard over a standard text based forum) are cancerous regardless of that post's content.
Are you genuinely that fucking retarded?

This is the last response you will get out of me, go back to /v/, you cancerous fuck.

>>169263392
After fighting her a lot I think it heavily comes down to RNG. It seems like she is sometimes very passive for the entire fight leaving you with an absurd amount of time to wail on her ass.

>>169262372
>I'm not shitposting
You're, proven by the fact that you posted an image completely unrelated to the topic at hand just so that you could get (You)s, which is the very definition of shitposting. I know that this kind of cancerous behavior is acceptble on /v/, but the quality should be a little better here.

Always like this generic boss theme, it's pure hype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-WQhltJjMo

>>169263689
Just ignore him.

>>169263692
Somehow I only ever associate this theme with the Taurus demon and completely forget it's used for the others.

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Is there a waifu more better than Yuria?
>Regal
>Respectful.
>Looks out for any threats towards your rule, and praises swift judgement.
>Gets you a consort, and says she's also thine, so threesomes are on the table
>Sells the best weapon to fist the second best waifu in the game.
>If you accept her help against the final boss, she leaves her clothes where she stood before implying she's waiting for you to go tap that.

>>169263307
>stuffed full of little things I absolutely love.
Like what? Not trying to start a ''my taste is better than yours'' argument, just curious to know what in Dark Souls II can be more appealing than in the other games for some people, like I tried to ask the first guy.

>>169263210
Series fatigue hit hard with 3. I felt like I'd been using every weapon in the game for six years. DaS3 had a lot of polished, well done boss fights, but still seemed unadventurous and forgettable. There were a lot of moments and things in DaS2 I loved (finding Vendrick, blue flame, first time through foggy wood), and I don't remember any in DaS3.

Also Das2 grew on me a lot with its DLC, while Ashes of Ariandel lowered my opinion of the base game.

>>169263568
>Your attentionwhoring is cancerous, therefore your image wasn't inert.
What did it detract from the thread then?
>Are you genuinely that fucking retarded?
You're saying that regardless of how relevant a post is, any addition to it that is not relevant, even if it doesn't derail the thread in any way, is somehow cancer. In fact, you've partially derailed the thread by posting about how much you hate images instead of the given topic, meaning all of your posts in this conversation have been cancerous by your definition.

>>169263689
I'm not doing it to get (You)s, I'm doing it to get answers to my relevant question that otherwise would have likely been ignored. If it's to draw attention to something relevant and genuine, how is it shitposting?

>>169263057
yeah

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>>169264087

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>>169264032
>arrogant
>manipulative
> her minion gives you an incurable curse that she sells the only treatment for
>tricks you into killing people who might poison your mind with lies
>gives you a sword fueled by your pain to protect you
>teaches you miracles that mindrape people who might poison your mind with lies
>they're spells about suffering and pain, and one of them literally makes people shut the fuck up
>has best girl killed, brainwashed, killed again, and indoctrinated, in that order, because you can't be with anyone who might turn you against her
>teaches you how to suck with the best of them
>makes you a king because she knows you'll do everything she says and it's too late to back out now

Yandere a best

>>169264032
SNAKE
WORSHIPPING
HARLOT

>>169264419
Is not.

>>169264032
Cuckqueen

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what did he mean by this?

>>169264060
>Series fatigue hit hard with 3.
Well, that's more due to timing and how you play the games than anything else. I didn't play Bloodborne and only played Dark Souls III this year, meaning that the time gap between my last Souls game( DKS2) and III was about 3 years, which is enough time to make me miss the series and to not burn me out. Dark Souls III was everything I wished Dark Souls II was, which to sum up, is being a worthy successor to Dark Souls 1. except for the Dark Souls 1 pandering, I wish it didn't had that.


The rest of what you said is pretty subjective, but yeah, opinions are opinions after all. For me it's the opposite, everything in II was extremely forgettable, whereas III was the most memorable game in the series to me after Souls 1.

I do agree with you that the Crown DLCs from 2 are amazing though.

So farming Concords with 100% drop rate is safe offline but item-swapping them in isn't? Hard;y makes sense.

>>169264498
What do you mean "Cuckqueen"?

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>>169264516
He doesn't like filthy hobbitses. Filthy, tricksy hobbitses.

>>169255336
>one of the only good additions in Dark Souls II

>Infusions
>Power Stancing
>rolling in any direction while locked on
>mundane
>trading for boss soul weapons instead of the upgrade bullshit
>area isn't shut off from PVP after beating a boss so you can host
>respec
>bonfire ascetics
>slower healing
Axe adaptability and soul memory and DaS2 has the best mechanics in the franchise.

>>169264516
They mean to scare the shit out of me.

>>169264658
Wants to be cucked by Anri, happier seeing the one she loves with another woman than herself

>>169264759
If you're the same anon as in last thread.

I take it back what I said then, I was wrong about you. You were right.

>>169264681
2's healing system is awful, how can you defend it?

>>169264058
A sensible elemental scaling system.
The ability to infuse and buff just about any weapon in the game.
Specific stat scaling rewarding players for skilling over 30 in a stat.
Spices allowing you to obfuscate spell requirements at the cost of still being weaker due to scaling (lets you use Dark spells with more than 30 requirement, since the stat requirements for some can go over 40).
The Str two-handing system (you can meet half the requirement but still only get the bonus of that amount, so two-handing with 25 Str let you use most weapons but gives you shit damage, as opposed to just hitting 34 Str and being able to two-hand at full power).
Rings that actually allow you to fine-tune to your desires (Baneful Bird for shield whores, Clear Bluestone and Southern Ritual for casters, Ivory Warrior for breaking shields, Quartz for countering specific elements, etc.).

And much more.

>>169264498
it's cuckquean actually, retained the archaic spelling of queen for whatever reason

Is this the right place to ask for help? I'm stuck as fuck on ornstein and smough. Never beat dark souls 1 before. I'm on PlayStation, too

>>169264869
It's the most fair and balanced in the entire series what are you talking about

>>169264961
Do you want tips or summons? If the former, it's easier to kill ornstein first, fire is the best element to use in the boss fight, try to fight them using less lock on.
If the later you meed to say your level and maybe try Solaire

>>169264681
>>Infusions
Present in Demon's Souls and done in a much better way in that game.
>Power Stancing
>>rolling in any direction while locked on
Granted.
>>mundane
What
>>trading for boss soul weapons instead of the upgrade bullshit
That's from Souls 1.
>>bonfire ascetics
This is a shit addition though.
>d soul memory
>adaptability
>healing
Also shit.


>DaS2 has the best mechanics in the franchise.
No, it didn't. The combat and hitboxes are awful.Every enemy tracks you like he is on top of a record player. More healing items were added when the game was fine with just Estus. Upgrade system is a joke because it's extremely easy to upgrade any weapon to +10 and it's less complex than both DeS and Dark Souls.

>>169264641
Instantaneously happening to get a bunch of covenant items is suspicious.

Being stupidly fucking lucky while farming them is extremely unlikely, but they can't prove that it didn't happen fair and square.

>>169264869
Lifegems never should have happened, but being able to punish item use and chugging makes PvP much more fair, as opposed to being able to sip in a guy's face in DaS3.

>>169265063
maybe for PVP but not for PVE.
Then again all healing in Souls games is easily trivialized.

>>169264080
How do you know it would have been ignored in the first place? Why not post an image relevant to your topic?

>>169265131
>>>trading for boss soul weapons instead of the upgrade bullshit
>That's from Souls 1.

No, you need to uprade a +10 weapon, if you want a boss weapon.

Does anyone want to run Farron Keep with me? It's my least favorite area. I'm not even really sure where to go, so I'm going to be looking at a guide for whatever shards or embers there might be.
PS4
SL 30

>>169265131
In DaS1, you had to upgrade a specific weapon class to +10 and then have that plus your boss weapon in order to get a boss weapon, which was a huge fucking hassle.

In DaS2, all you needed was the boss soul and some money, and you'd instantly get the weapon at Straid's or Ornifex's.

>>169265169
leave it.

>>169265131
>Present in Demon's Souls and done in a much better way in that game.
Nobody ever infused their weapons in DeS. They always just applied resins.

>What
It was a certain infusion that caused your weapon to scale off of your lowest stat.

>That's from Souls 1.
You had to upgrade separate weapons to +10 before using a boss soul to transcend it to a boss weapon. He's saying all you needed in DS2 was the boss's soul and trade it in to Ornifex / Straid to get the soul's weapon.

>This is a shit addition though.
Do you seriously enjoy being bullied into NG+ and up to get items? Do you want me to believe that you'd rather go through the entire game again just to fight a good boss once again?

>Also shit.
Soul memory is debatable, adaptability could have been left out I agree, but healing was the best in all five games.

>>169265063
The fairest is BB's and closest to a perfect one in every aspect but it favors vitgouging too much.
If not counting that one, then 1 for PvP(assuming no cheats) and 3 for PvE.

2 allows you to farm all limited healing items rather easily because ascetics so using blessings in PvP is more than doable and not all players can do it(but there's a spell that needs zero investment, not even upgrading the catalyst, that all players can have, giving free healing for no price besides a bit of ATT). And PvE is incredibly dumb since stacking lifegems is easy and cheap

>>169265462
I've never had to use gems beyond Forest of Fallen Giants.

>>169265435
Curious why you'd argue in favor of SM, as an anti-twinking mechanic the weapon memory system of 3 is far superior imo.

>>169265241
>>169265321
Don't you think that Dark Souls II trivialized upgrades and boss weapons? It actually meant something in previous games because you had to choose what weapon you want, whereas now you can simply make every boss weapon without even needing them.

>>169265169
Because they often are, and I don't see how an image of something Dark Souls related would have actually made the post any better.

>>169265537
The issue is that you can and it's too easy to do so. Farming humanity takes time and can't be done at the start of the game. Grass is broken. Vials are cheap but you can only have 20. You can't farm healing in 3.

The only wirse PvE healing system is DeS

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>>169265627
You're meming us right now right?
No one is this pedantic, not even Souls fags

>>169265627
>It actually meant something in previous games because you had to choose what weapon you want
You didn't have to choose anything. All materials required to make boss weapons were farmable [well, all but the boss souls themselves]. Later games merely removed the middle man, and were better off for it.

The system offered nothing of value bar a very subjective sense of achievement to a minority of players.

>>169264058
Little things that really have no bearing on important parts of what I think is the most important aspect of what makes one of these games good. Off the top of my head stuff like:

>nearly everything about the way the player character is animated
>parrying feels more rewarding than any other souls game, partly because of how the frames work but mostly because the animations are more visceral
>less maneuverable character handling in the way that stuff like roll attacks or turning during an attack work
>slower stamina regen, slower combat in general
>weapon movesets in general, any point of variety aside the moves across the various weapon classes were always very satisfying to use in I way I haven't been able to find in the other games
>split damage infusions were actually very useful

There's a lot more but you probably get the idea. A lot of subjective feelings towards gameplay and speed as well as very superficial stuff. The unfortunate part is all of this stuff I like wasn't applied to a more coherent and well designed pve experience.

>>169261735
Kind of design that overall makes me hate DaS2 really.

>>169265435
>Nobody ever infused their weapons in DeS.
If I remember correctly, you could infuse weapons in Demon's Souls to make any weapon fit in any build. Like giving a S int scaling for a uchigatana for example.

>Do you seriously enjoy being bullied into NG+ and up to get items? Do you want me to believe that you'd rather go through the entire game again just to fight a good boss once again?
Like many things in DKS2, bonfire aesthetics trivialize the game. Doing multiple playthroughs to find what you missed, try new builds and to pick more items in the process was one of the great things above Souls games, just burning a item on a bonfire makes NG+ pointless, as you can get whatever you want with just a few clicks.

>but healing was the best in all five games.
Not when they brought regeneration ring and healing items besides estus back.

>playing ps3 das
>no online activity for entire playthrough
>except for vagrant in kiln of the first flame

neat/10

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I know I'm a bit late to the party with this, but I really have the urge to do a Sister Friede cosplay run. I've never tried sorcery in any of the Souls Games, except for a character I abandoned in 2, because I kind of found it boring, and Bloodborne, which had some really entertaining 'magic'.

Even if her face is mostly obscured, I'm trying to recreate it as best I can, considering it's not made with the same tools available to the player on character creation. The closest I think I've found is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir0LuTaTtNw but I'd be really grateful if anyone had sliders that might be better, otherwise I might try to modify the ones in that video a bit.

Also, are sorceries any fun? I've not seen an amazing amount of people using them, they just seem a little less interesting to me than pyromancy.

>>169265627
This has to be some autistic false flag.

>>169265993
about Souls games*
auto correct fucking with me

>>169266102
They're fun, but not diverse at all in playstyle. It's just progressively more powerful projectiles, and later on homing orbitals, complemented by the Magic Weapon line of spells that basically make you on par with any melee character, at least as far as PvE is concerned.

I find it enjoyable, at least, since figuring out the timing when you're safe to cast your soul spears on certain bosses offers somewhat of a different experience.

>>169265665
>and I don't see how an image of something Dark Souls related

You actually typed something THAT retarded in a Dark Souls general.

Please, fuck off, not even our tripfag is that fucking annoying.

>>169266320
>basically anytime you could estus you can now also cast spears

The Dark Souls III DLC is any good? Loved the game, but I'm holding off from buying the DLC for now because I want to play the two DLCs in the same playthrough

>>169265993
>If I remember correctly
You don't. Most of the infusions were ...less-than-useful. Only the Dex, Str, and Quality infusions were really useful. Mercury, Bleeding, Crescent, Blessed, etc. were all too ineffectual to be really worthwhile.

Bonfire Ascetics were great in DaS2 because DaS2 was shit. Having to go through a full playthrough for a build-essential weapon like Moonlight Greatsword is just insane, especially when the single player experience is so weak.

>>169266547
DLC1, no.
DLC2, we don't know yet. Get back to us in March.

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>>169266547
It is good, the level design, art design, vistas, and weapons are all fantastic, but it's too short to make up for DaS3's weaknesses.

Get someone to drop you the weapons and armor and see if they aren't fun enough to make you want to get the Season Pass.

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>>169266012
It's really sad. I remember before DaS3 released, on PS3 I would still get constant invasions at Sen's with my SL40 and constant forest PvP with my SL125. Now it's a ghost town, can't get single invasion or summon at Sen's, and in the span of 30 minutes I only got summoned to the forest twice, both times against the same group of gankers, one of which was a hacker

>>169264516
Fuck that whole area
>jailers
>wretches
>screaming corpses

>>169265781
I want to fuck that bird.

>>169266547
First DLC is shit for content, second DLC looks more promising.
You might like the first if you love Bloodborne and you're some kinda estrogen taking faggot dex user.

>>169264681

>>Infusions
Nothing interesting except for mundane, combined with the buffs meant that physical characters were exclusively worse than elemental in melee, which is absurd
>>Power Stancing
Cool mechanic but poorly thought out, only meaningful or interesting with a handful of weapons. I do not mourn the loss
>>trading for boss soul weapons instead of the upgrade bullshit
I preferred the "upgrade bullshit", the only thing that needed change was showing the possible infusion even if you only had the soul, not just the +10 weapon
>>area isn't shut off from PVP after beating a boss so you can host
Has some questionable aspects to it, especially combined with the fact that even hollowed, you could be invaded. IMHO, if the boss is down only the police should be able to invade you.
>>respec
This is a good thing, but only as long as the community is healthily big. Otherwise it just kills off low level interactions. With different mm formulas and a better online scaling system, this wouldn't be an issue
>>bonfire ascetics
Good on its own, but promotes bullshit farming. Ask anyone who wanted to cosplay as a painting guardian
>>slower healing
Can be worked around. If you start healing earlier, you basically can heal through damage. This worked well on bossfights because it ate through your estus but you still had lifegemd, so eh
>Axe adaptability and soul memory and DaS2 has the best mechanics in the franchise.
Don't axe SM, it was a good idea. Just like do many others, poorly thought out. One system I have proposed was a soul registry if you will that counts the souls that your levels, attuned spells and armor/weapons/rings/consumables that are in your inventory (not the bottomless box)
But what was the biggest problem for me was the clunkiness. R1s and r2s don't combo in a fluid manner, they forcibly reset the weapon's position and continue from there. As far as I know, not even glitches fix that

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Ok, I'm playing Dark Souls 1, I'm in the sewer part. I have 8 attunement and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get to 10 so I can equip the fireball spell(even if it will deal little damage, it will help, no? I also am having trouble dealing with these slug things that fall from the ceiling and have so much physical defense).

Help please

>>169266102
>Also, are sorceries any fun?
Magic as a complementary element is fun, but it becomes tedious if it's your only source of damage, which is why making pure magic builds is boring.

I like miracles and Oolacile spells because they either complement the melee playstyle, which is the strength of the game, or affect the gameplay in a interesting and unique way, such as with Chameleon and Fall control. I'm not a fan of spells that only do damage because they lack the same sense of impact and satisfaction that the melee strikes carry in Dark Souls, at least to me.

However, I really like Pyromancies, for two reasons. First being that you can use them as a complementary form of damage rather than your main source of damage since you don't need to spend any stats point to use It, or it used to be like this. The second is mostly because I find them more flashy and satisfying to use in general.

>>169256810
Dusk top with black leather leggings is my jam. A pity there us no knee high skirt, my dick is diamonds for those

>>169267027
>you're some kinda estrogen taking faggot dex user.
Dex is patrician way to play Souls games though.

>>169267178
Pyromancy is very useful in DS1 because it hits hard and the only stat you actually need to level for it is Attunement. I'd say get it up to 12 so you can use stuff like Great Chaos Fireball.

>>169267178
Pyomancy is great for non-int/non-faith builds because its power comes solely from upgrading the Pyro Flame, which doesn't scale with any stats and just costs Souls to upgrade. It's also got some of the most damaging spells in the game, so, yes, if that sounds like something you'd like, it's very much "worth it".

The slugs are weak to elemental damage, incidentally, especially Fire.

>>169267331
>>169267372
I started with the warrior archetype, so will it be useful to spend 2 stat points on attunement?

>>169267451
shoulda went bandit you dumb ghru

>>169267372
>>169267178
>Pyromancies need status to be used in Dark Souls 3
I didn't like this decision. Literally killed the whole point of pyromancy, it just feels like a different branch of sorcery now.

>>169267568
It makes sense when literally every single faggot who played the game had fucking Great Combustion/Black Flame to oki with. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit anymore.

how would you even balance raw-damage pyromancies?

wasn't great combustion on a SL1 kinda OP?

>>169267451
It will. Having access to pyromancies will give more possibilities and ways of dealing with different situations to your build and at the cost of almost nothing.

>>169267683
>>169267679
like pottery

>>169267679
It makes sense when it comes to balancing pvp, but it sucks in terms of fun and PvE. No, actually, Pyomancy wasn't even that OP at pvp anyway, it was just a nice addition to have.

>>169267801
>No, actually, Pyomancy wasn't even that OP at pvp anyway
>literally every single person in the game had a free 700- to 1300-damage touch spell to oki with, making it ubiquitous in PvP and a nigh-requisite part of any build
>not OP
I guess, if you're not the guy waking up into it.

What did Pyro users use as a Greatsword pre-Ashes? Miracle builds had Wolnir while Sorceror builds had Moonlight and Judgement.

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The fight with Sir Alonne is a wonderful setpiece that is completely sullied by the absolute garbage fire of a level that immediately precedes it.

>>169267934
Chaos infusion on a greatsword

>>169267970
Dark Souls 2 is shit.

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>>169266905
>console peasantry

Hah!

>>169267970
>>169268027
ran through it in 20 seconds

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>>169268027
no u

>>169267926
Except black flame is very easy to dodge at low dex. 45 dex BF is scary. Base dex not really

>>169267683
Pyromancies only dealt insane amount of damage with a ascended gloves +5, which costed ridiculous amounts of Souls to make. Only twinks and high level players would be able to make good use of pyromancies, especially because Dark Souls doesn't have mana and spells have limited uses and unlike dark souls 2, you can't regenerate them.
>>169267926
Pyromancies are very easy to predict and dodge though, they are nothing compared to the annoyance that are black spells/hexes

>>169268148
Any half-decent player could time it so it caught a person between their wake-up and roll. I managed it, and so did everybody else.

>>169268120
Oh hey, is that the Dark Souls 3 Switch port?

>yfw Dancer is Gertrude

>>169267970
Agree with this. What the fuck were the guys who did the level design even thinking? Literally no one will bother with those samurai fags

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>>169267210
I think I have generally the same opinion on magic and pyromancy as you do.

There's just something more neat about using a pyromancy flame to coat a sword in flame, compared to just making it glow blue and do a bit of magic damage, it just has a more 'Dark Souls' feel to it, since flame/light/fire have such a integral part in the theme.

I'll try and figure out a way to make magic work for me as a supplemental thing.

>>169268070
As if it isn't dead on PC
Also Bloodborne never ever etc.

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>final boss isn't even the real bad guy
What other games do this?

>>169268214
>Pyromancies are very easy to predict and dodge though, they are nothing compared to the annoyance that are black spells/hexes
Literally talking about oki touch Pyros and nothing else.

>which costed ridiculous amounts of Souls to make. Only twinks and high level players would be able to make good use of pyromancies
That's an idiotic statement anyway but it cost roughly 3.5mil to max ascend a Pyro Glove (assuming we're not talking about mustards who just spawned themselves one or console players who save edited themselves one). Anyone could get one after a half hour in the Woods.

>>169268248
that's the wii port dummy

>>169268248
Dark Souls 3DS

>>169267970
Most of the game's levels are garbage fires, Alonne's was just really really bad.

>>169268373
>New players
>Farming Souls for an hour
Who the fuck does that? Farming is something you do on NG+

>>169268102
Even running through it is an absolute pain.
You could just add the Benny Hill theme to it, what with the horde of weebknights chasing you through the entire damn corridor.

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post fan art

>>169268369
>Pontiff is the bad guy
Explain. Did I miss something?

>>169268470
>Only twinks or high-level
>Suddenly if they're not twinks or high level they're specifically new players
>No new players ever farmed for Souls
>[it was a hilariously common practice for new players to farm souls]
Holy shit you're a idiot. You don't have the foggiest fucking clue what you're talking about.

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So why DOES Aldrich have a Gravelord blade on the end of his staff?

>>169268547
Based Gough.

>>169268607
Because he's a cleric

And

Okay

Wait for it

Get this

You ready?

Okay

Here goes

Gravelord Blade is a miracle

Whooaaaaaaa!

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>>169268547

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>>169268547

>>169267568
Recall that Pyromancy had scaling in 2, you were just allowed to pick which stats you wanted to level.

Having stat requirements for spells in 3 was the natural end result after giving Fire damage scaling in 2. It kinda sucks for sub-classing, but you can utilize literally every Pyromancy at 20/20 while swapping in the +5 rings as necessary, the requirements are extremely low.

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>>169268547
DeS produced the best fan art.

>>169268694
He should probably have considered the fact that Nadalia no longer has a body before hatching that plan.

>>169268373
>3.5mil to max ascend a Pyro Glove
It's literally exactly 10% of that number to max a pyro glove anon.

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>>169268672
I THINK he was asking how he even obtained said miracle.

>>169268672
Gravelord Blade doesn't work like that. Also he'd have to be a Gravelord to get the miracle, and the Gravelords aren't even around in DS3.

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>>169268547

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>>169268694
>trying to bone the augur of solitude
lol who does he think he is Ivory King?

>>169268775
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it was 3.5 mil.

Maybe it was 3.5mil to get to 120.

That just reinforces my point of how easy it was to get a +5 Ascended Pyro Glove.

>>169268607
Better question, how the fuck is he using DMB on a Gravelord Sword?

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>>169268547

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>>169268803
>you will never be so cool that an actual embodiment of evil will fall to her knees and suck you off
Why even live?

>>169268863
It's not an actual Gravelord Sword, it's a projection from his staff.

>NG++, breeze everything through until I reach pontiff sullyvahn
>consistently get him down to his second phase but then started tilting after I died to shadow clone jitsu over and over
>now I'm dying before the crescendo in his soundtrack

This is true torment.

>>169268598
>>Suddenly if they're not twinks or high level they're specifically new players
Yes? New players are just starting the game, meaning they won't have the know how to be twinks and they certainly aren't high level, as they are new players.

>>No new players ever farmed for Souls
Farming Souls is in tedious way for hours isn't something most Souls players will want to do with their times, yes.

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>>169268897
...what the?

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>>169268897
Never seen that one before.

>>169268939
Try to parry him on the first phase, in the second phase just keep your distance and use pyromancy

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>>169268547

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>>169252985
>tfw someone actually drew crab monster waifu

holy shit that is awesome

>>169266907
>Yhorm has a bunch of white-robed versions of the jailers near his throne room

Was Yhorm tapping them?

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>>169268547

>>169268939
Just bring in Anri and Gotthard, and go full ham on him while his AI tries to decide who to attack.

>>169269097
I'm pretty sure I saw that pic in previous threads long before the crab butt posts.

>>169269003
Why is Lucatiel such a dyke?

>>169269153
>give us a greek-looking sword-and-shield combo
>no greek-looking skirt-and-sandals
it hurts

>>169264516
Irithyll Dungeon and Profaned Capital are maybe the most terrifying areas of any Souls game. Really atmospheric stuff

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>>169266102
I forgot to mention, but if I want to do a build of Sister Friede, is deprived a good starting class to go? I'm not really looking to min/max much, just a bit iffy on what would be best if I wanted to emulate her as best as possible.

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>>169268547

Does anyone have art of the Fair Lady? Still the only true Souls waifu.

>>169268853
Double checked and looked it up. Definitely 350k

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OOOOCCCCCEEEELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTEEEE

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>>169269315
All I have is this, boss

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>>169268547

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>>169269315
1/?

>>169269269
deprived is never the best choice, it will only be equal to the other classes if you level all stats

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>>169269315

>>169269213
she's just a raging brocon

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>Start NG+ in DaSIII
>Shop's entire inventory resets so I have to find all the ashes and kill most of the bosses again to buy most of the shit she sold previously

Who approved this.

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>>169269315
2/?

>>169269423
Shit I was just about to post that one.

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>>169269315
3/?

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>>169269413
That kind of sucks, I always sort of looked at deprived as the best choice in terms of gameplay for any of the games, just feels kinda nice.

What class would you suggest for what I'm going for, anon?

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>>169269315
4/?

>>169252985
So, we have had lady with a spider butt, lady with a somewhat more dead spider butt, lady with a scorpion butt, now we have lady with a crab butt

The next one should be a lady with a basilisk butt

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Seek-Seek-Lest got some nice fan art.

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>>169268362
DaS1 isnt dead on PC, with DCSM you have atleast 20+nodes in every area.

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>>169269609
>>169269413
After you beat the game once a new class with negative levels and 5 in all stats should open.

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>Chatper 3.5 - Honor
>Not just making the last fight chapter 4.0 - Honor

ubi you fucked up

>>169269496
Probably least favourite thing about the game.

>>169268778
Yeah and he'd have to be part of the Priscilla watchers to get the Lifehunt Scythe miracle.

Oh wait.

>>169269896
That game is so fucking ugly it's impressive.

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>>169269354
This is beautiful and exactly what I was looking for, anon. Thanks
>>169269423
>>169269593
>>169269681
Those are nice too.

>>169269864
best boy

>>169268897
I actually can't tell what character that is.

>>169269790
>it's not dead, you just need mods for the online to work

>>169269213
>any woman who doesn't want to receive lecherous comments must be a dyke!

your virginity is showing.

>>169269864
It just seems like playing deprived defeats the purpose, since it's extra challenge with no real reward to doing so.

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>>169270023
Look closer at the train.

>>169269758
>basilisk butt

"S-sorry unkindled, but I can't hold it anymore!"
>*PFFFFFFRRT*
! CURSED !

>>169270023
Anastacia, the firekeeper in under firelink shrine

>>169270023
Anastacia, the Fire keeper who was ''killed'' by Lautrec, the train is obviously supposed to be Lautrec+red eye orb

>>169269864
What weapon would you even use?

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Just went from a 40/40 quality build to a 27/40/40 luck build and the difference is pretty great, I put off trying it out for a long time because the increase in damage didnt look that much better for the stat investment but it really is, the bleeds pop on every 3-4 hits rather than every 5-6 which is huge.

Ive been using a Hollow washing pole, warden twinblades, barbed sword, corvian scythe and carthus curved sword, any other weapons that are bretty great in a hollow/luck/bleed build i could fuck around with?

>>169269787
Herald is the cutest level up waifu after MiB

>>169270103
>>169270087
I feel stupid for not looking at the train now. Thanks.

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>>169269758
>implying Nashandra's ass cheeks don't look like these

>>169270036
Correct, that means it isnt dead like the console version, pleb.

>>169269941
some of the mechanics seem fun but i can't get over how muddy and shitty all the art design is

>>169269941
I really looks bad with tiny heads and badly shaped armor. The attack animations don't seems to connect and from what I've heard the game got filled with bad business practices.

>>169270070
Not really a challenge because Club is strong and with 10 in all stats you can easily pick up stuff around to use.

>>169270107
Your fists.

Who the fuck greenlighted champion fuck-you's 180* attacks?????

>>169270206
I want to stick it inside Nashandra's abyss

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>>169270309
I guess, but that's kind of a problem too, deprived should be shitty and FEEL shitty at the start, but have the ability to craft torwards any build with better stats, since you'd potentially have even LESS wasted stats, but at the cost of added difficulty at the start.

>>169270461
You mean Gundyr? I actually love his boss battle.

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>>169270597
Do you think Nashandra is the greatest lay in the land, BUT if you do pipe, you hollow instantly?

Would you?

Question, why the Oneiros boss room connects to Dark Firelink shrine, which seems to be a possible future version of how Firelink shrine would be like if the age of dark happened.

>>169269249
I always lose my shit to that description

>>169270707
Yes, I must follow in Vendrick's footsteps

>>169270461
Someone who assumed you could locate your circle/B button.

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>>169269609
if you want to be quality: Warrior

if you want to be quality/luck build: warrior

if you want to be quality with buffs: Mercenary or cleric

if you want to be quality with buffs and vitality (lol): Knight (yes seriously, if you dont both buff and level vitality, the knight is sub optimal)

as for casters they're pretty straight forward: Pyro/hexer = Pyromancer, sorcery = sorcerer, faith = Cleric (or knight if you also want a shit ton of vit for some reason)

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A classic

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>>169270838
Or, you know. Parry him.

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>>169270707
http://www.strawpoll.me/12406279

Is there any reasons to kill NPCs in Dark Souls 1?

Should I even bother not restarting because I've killed the merchant in undead burgh and the crystal npc in the sewers, it permanently locks you out of some items in the game, right?

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>>169269249
>>169270783
Then vs now

>>169269413
That is wrong, but the cases it's best are few and far between. Every build should be optimized separately
>>169269896
Wrong thread

>>169269609
Pyromancer is the best starting class for using the scythes, just focus on int and dex, you'll start with enough strength and faith to meet minimum requirements.

pick up some utility sorceries and pyromancies like hidden body+slumbering dragoncrest ring for the only stealth gameplay in DaS3

you can also decide to gut your stamina to get 60 int so you can blast people with pew pew, but I'd advise against it since you'll need a lot of stamina to use them properly.

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There's not enough porn for this series.

>only 27 pages on gelbooru
>most of it isn't even porn

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>>169270707
>nashandra this some nasty ass abyss i hate you so much but the pussy game ridiculous

>>169271130
Killing NPCs when your first playthrough is always a bad idea in Souls games, even when they give good rewards.

>>169271141
>that is wrong

I've yet to find a single stat combination where deprived is best, only a couple of odd ones where it rivaled another

>>169271207
It's probably because Dark Souls is one of the least sexualized games in existence, especially for japanese standards.

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>>169271207
>he still uses gelbooru

get a load of this pleb

>>169271130
The one is the burg isn't that important. You fucked up hard by killing the other one. If you want their gear, wait to kill them right before going to NG+

>>169271130
You don't need to restart, but you'll just have to settle with not being able to get any boss armor.

>>169271429
Or the master key

>>169269609
https://battlecalculator.com/dark-souls-3/dark-souls-3-class-selector

one of the most useful tools for DaS3

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>>169270707
can't resist the thicc

>>169271228
Nasty abyss ass more like

>>169271393
It doesn't matter if you kill that guy, the only good thing he has is the crystal shield, which if you're new to the game (which is probably why he doesn't know what the guy even has) is not that useful because of low durability and the fact it can't be repaired. Sasuga tripfag.

>>169271519
You can get by without it, unless you really want to keep doing PvP in the Burg in NG+.

>>169271429
>>169271393
>>169271265
Why does this mechanic even exist, then? Just to screw with players

Is it too easy to escape backstabs?
It feels like it's too easy.

/dsg/ Is there a revival of the online for das2 happening today/tomorrow? Not sure when the 24th is for you guys.

>>169271664
Yeah, but he also has BOSS ARMOR when he moves right down the road

>>169271732
Why are you attacking random NPCs in the first place?

>>169271732
>Why does this mechanic even exis

It's an RPG and making npcs unkillable is handholding.

>>169271821
doesn't that event start on the 25th?

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i've got an extremely speculative, headcanon-tier theory i'd like to share

the protagonist of every game is the distant descendant of the previous one. it would tie in with the theme of lineage, what with gwyn and his family. the only in-game evidence i have for this is that it could explain why the protagonists in the sequels can warp from the start. i don't remember any instances of NPC's warping via bonfire, but if you can prove me wrong do it

like is said, basically complete headcanon but two weeks before march 28th i'm gonna start roleplaying like fuck through the whole series ending with the last dlc with this in mind. the stories about the chosen undead are passed down through the generations and go into great detail, but it is all but unknown to the outside world as the years go by and other more memorable beings continue to link the flame. any time someone in this lineage is born and eventually becomes undead, they are sent out on a journey as a rite of honor to their ancestor. notice the black separation crystal is described as a "farewell" gift. since each protagonist knows of the events of the previous game, they each slowly gain insight into the nature of the world until dark souls 3 happens and th descendant of the second lord of cinder puts the flame out for good (or usurps it who cares but linking the fire definitely is not canon)

>>169272183
>That bowl
It still haunts me. What the fuck was it for?

>>169271732
Because the game doesn't baby you. It didn't screw with you; you chose to kill them, not it.