/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

>>169184617
okay thank you, I will start to farm this fucker now

Close call.

>25 gypceros
>still no head

Fine, if I don't get one by 30 I'm dropping the lance. This weapon is bad luck after bad luck.

>>169184675
For a general this active its very good at near-death experiences.

BOGmazios quick rundown

>>169184958
sure bro, heres a quick rundown

-Wycedemy bows to Bogdanoffs
-In contact with Narkarkos
-Possess psychic-like abilities
-Control minegarde with an iron but fair fist
-Own castles & guilds globally
-Direct descendants of the ancient hunter blood line
-Will bankroll the first guilds on Moga (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
-Own 99% of monster DNA editing research facilities on Earth
-First elite hunters will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
-both brothers said to have innate Sharpness+5, such handicraftness on Earth has only existed deep in ancient civilizations
-Ancient civilizationscriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon minegardeand will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
-They own equal dragon eaopn research centers around the world
-You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
-The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Fatalis brothers, forwarding the word of dragons to the wycedemy. Who do you think set up the meeting between the guild & the wycedemy high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the wycedemy leader’s first trip to pola field in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
-They learned fluent wyverian in under a week
-Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There’s no gold in schhrade castle, only Bogdanoff castle
-The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.

They are /ourguys/

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WHEN WILL MONHUN GET OUT OF SHITTY NINTENDO CONSOLES?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH:WQEHBV:QEHBP:QWBPH

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>mh4 released in late 2013
>slime nerfed
>soon afterwards, kizuki aruchu falls ill and never recovers
was he a kelbibow shitter?

>>169185413
Haha, never Sonygger

Nintengod is /ourguy/

>>169185413
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/11/02/capcom-wants-monster-hunter-to-grow-in-the-west-and-feels-handhelds-are-limiting-sales/

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>>169185413

>>169185538
That's Capcom code for Monster Hunter 5 and onwards for Switch, Monster Hunter Frontier 2 for everything else.

>>169185517
I hope Miyamoto fucking dies

Anyone here know when/how the giant sword in Pokke regenerates? Thought i'd stock up in case all the fatty weapons in mhxx upgraded from dark stone weapons.

>>169185538
Japan's handheld market far exceeds its console market, it's almost a certainty that it's going to the switch.
It would look the same on any console regardless because capcom are lazy.

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>>169185613
I love me some Frontier 2. Let's be honest here Deep Down and Panta Rhei is being salvaged for Frontier 2.

>>169185760
I don't care if it looks the same between consoles, I don't want to buy another shitty ass nintencucksole just for one game

>>169185820
I'm pretty sure Panta Rhei is dead and whatever's left of it was turned into RE Engine.

Any case, if Frontier 2 was just Frontier Z running on MT Framework, I'd take it.

>>169185694
After every quest, exactly how you should expect it to.

>>169185935
Well unless sony's got the vita 2 coming out within the year you're kinda fucked. My condolences.

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>>169185760
PS4 is giving the 3DS a run for their money in Japan.

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>Valoraptor

>>169185820
Deep Down's copyright was renewed fairly recently. I'm hoping for a Dragon's Dogma 2, especially since that fits more than a Monster Hunter title.

>>169185694
Two elder dragon bones

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>>169186086
If they use Panta Rhei for MH then MH will finally have actual physics

>>169186000
I know, I KNOW.
XX or if possible in the future, Generations Ultimate, will probably be my last MonHun if MH5 becomes S(w)hit(ch)

>>169186000
Historically speaking a new mainline MH won't appear on a new platform like Switch unless it has about 3 years' worth of install base.

>>169186401
*a new generation mainline MH

>>169186287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysccgk5SAGs

You better get acquainted with Monster Hunter's new home.

>>169186401
5 won't appear until 2018 at the earliest, but a quick and dirty MH3U-tier Switch port of XX is possible this year, once Capcom wring every sale they can get out of the 3DS version.

>>169184921
Gotta run Heroics

>>169186401
>>169186496
I was a bout to mention monster hunter freedom came out within a year of the psp's release but you corrected yourself.
Your statement is still faulty, however, because there is only one situation where it's applicable: the wii. Unless you count 4 being on 3ds which I wouldn't because 3U was on it as well.

>>169186570
Historically speaking that won't happen also, because MH3G HD only happened because the need for online.

>>169186650
Yes MH4 counts. It came out after 3 years 3DS was out.

>>169186796
But there was already a monster hunter game on the 3ds, despite not being a new generation. I need you to refute this before we move on.

So why are custom bowguns gone, again?

>>169186841
I said new generation mainline. See now the next possible MH can only be MH5. Not like last time when people refused to believe MHXG is going to happen despite the evidence.

I HOPE CAPCOM FUCKING DIES FOR NOT MAKING MEGAMAN AND DMC COME BACK AND NOT GETTING MH OUT OF NINTENDO

>>169186874
Team got lazy when they faced the prospect of having to stat every single part of every single gun from every single monster in a game with more than 20 of them.

I'm glad they're gone, for my part. Clownguns were awful.

>>169186950
You can't ask for old games and expect the same people to be making it

>>169186874
Sonyggers.

They were too complex for P3rd so they were scrapped from subsequent titles.

You can blame sony for everything.

>>169186924
Yes but you need to tell me why that matters, they already tested the waters with 3U before the install base built up. Why is it important that its a new generation specifically?

>>169186000
The sad thing is that Sony could do a cheap portable device with graphics around PS3 levels using an off-the-shelf SoC. They could keep the Vita 2000 design, give it SD card support, and stick in a 720p screen, clickable sticks and extra shoulder buttons. Call it a Vita Pro.

It may not sell in the West, but it'd stop all those smaller Japanese developers from going PS4/Switch, and then eventually Switch only when the PS4 continues to flatline in Japan.

>>169186950
Can you not move your console war shitposting to your containment board? It's just left from here, can't miss it.

>>169187037
Sales to cover the budget for a new generation worth of additional content.

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>>169187074

>>169187113
So why would they move to a new, riskier system to generate those sales?
I think you're just tripping over your own words at this point.

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>>169187246
For MH3G they were entirely hoping for a new audience while abandoning their old audience. By the time MH4 came out, there's 3 year's worth of install base to work with.

>>169187489
That doesn't prove anything about your previous claim for it to be to generate sales, in fact it say the opposite: sacrificing sales to gather new audience... which primes the install base for a new generation. Okay I understand where you're coming from, but you're still wrong because you have yet to explain why 3 years would have any significance besides development cycle.
If XX is ported to the switch to prime the install base they aren't going to wait an extra 18 months to release 5 because of some unwritten rule of 3.

>>169187885
I'm saying MH5 won't come out on Switch you dumdum. Historically speaking of course.

>>169187935
Might as well expand on it some more

MHXX HD on Switch won't sell more than 200k looking at past sales data. Primarily because MHXX is already on 3DS. And the next game will almost certainly be MH5, which by March 2018 about there, Switch won't have enough install base to justify an exclusive release on it.

>>169187935
>>169188057
Then where would it go? A giant chunk of its popularity in japan stems from its portability and there's no new psp type handheld coming out anytime soon.

Maybe a 3ds/switch cross platform game?

>>169188123
Whatever. I already know where this is going.

Keypoint to remember, Iwata is dead. Nobody is paying for MH exclusivity anymore.

>>169188231
You don't honestly believe this game will ever leave handhelds again do you? You're trapped here with subpar performance and visuals forever, anon
f o r e v e r

That statement was clearly just Capcom confirming MH5 for Switch.

Don't get excited Sonyggers.

>>169188440
I know when you're saying handhelds you only mean Nintendo. Stop beating around the bush.

>>169188542
No if there's a vita 2 I think it could go there, in-fact I want cross platform with shared servers. Hell I want mainline on PC as well.
But it's not gonna happen.

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>>169188498
>That statement was clearly just Capcom confirming MH5 for Switch.

>>169188498
What statement?

>>169188632
What about Vita 1? Did you root for it when it came out in 2011 and MH came out for 3DS instead?

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>>169188632
>I want cross platform with shared servers.
>Hell I want mainline on PC as well.
>But it's not gonna happen.
How long have I been waiting for something like this

>>169184791
Okay I lied, I'm at 37 gypceros and finally got my head. Lance is too fun to give up

>>169188764
with vita nearing the end of it's life and the switch basically being the vita but better in terms of hardware and function I don't think capcom would take the risk.
If you could choose between your old console, a new console, or a new stronger console that will likely get a lot of the install base of your previous one which 2 are you gonna pick?
Sorry about your vita purchase, anon.

>>169188989
So by handheld you only mean Nintendo. Like I said

>>169189078
no, because if ther'es a vita 2 it will compete with the switch and have a chance to come to that. Stop trying to use ad hominem so you don't have to argue.

>>169189179
But what about back in 2011?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q0OosCOxrw

Is open world a meme?

>>169189204
3U for 3ds came out 7 days before the vita, development probably started for it before the vita was even announced.

Playing Frontier on Vita back then, made me want 4U for Vita

Sad

>>169186245

MT Frameworks is best

>>169189395
Vita was announced before 3DS came out. If MH3G took more than a year to develop, then it would be before MHP3rd even came out even. Just some food for thought.

And again, no need to say handheld as if you're including Vita, just say Nintendo like everyone else.

>>169189697
I'm betting MH3G was probably going to be a Wii game until Tri underperformed in Japan and/or Nintendo showed Capcom the 3DS hardware.

>>169189697
you could fit a jaggi inside that chip on your shoulder

>>169189697
Fucking stop that, stop putting words in my mouth.
You know what I'm done, you're impossible to argue with because all you want to do is assign titles like nintendrone to people to reinforce your console war prejudices.

I want a monster hunter on PC and understand it's never gonna happen. You need to accept the vita and 3ds are dying and the 3ds may have been chosen fro 3U due to the timing the devkits were released.
Or, like you said, there was an exclusivity contract. If you actually believed that and weren't just trying to start shit you wouldn't be entertaining the idea of 3U for the vita.

Just stop, fucking stop. Go away.

>>169190206
>>169190098
In all logical sense, 2011's title should be Portable 3rdG for PSP.

>>169190334
It was released for holiday, 3U as well a year later.
That would make p3rd 2011 and 3U 2012

>>169190453
You mean 2010 and 2011 respectively

>>169189316
Yes, I'd much rather have load screens and invisible boundaries

I-I prefer it this way

What, you want to walk to the enemy more?
Heh idiot

>>169190530
No that's when they were released, the years I mentioned are the years they were relevant due to them being released in December.
It adds nothing to the argument, I was just entertaining an interesting thought.

>>169187659
>flight is on chest/back muscles mosly
but in an older post you said the rath was better suited of arial combat because its chest is stronger?
your not making sence now anon and i feel as if your just making things up now without a base to form it on.
its good to have an opinion but at leas tbase it on some kind of fact

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>>169190773
They were both released early December so the bulk of the sale would still be in December, and most importantly still within the fiscal year which ends every end of March. For example, 2016's fiscal year MH title is still MHXX despite technically coming out in 2017.

>>169189316
>>169190682
Single zone maps with sub-zone arenas in basically the same structure = good
Open world = meme walking simulater

>>169190914
>but in an older post you said the rath was better suited of arial combat because its chest is stronger?
What?
He can fly freely and focus on attacking with claws/fireball.

>>169190990
Calm down, mate. I was entertaining a thought not arguing a point. I agree with you.

>>169191192
fireballs is the only thing he can do better then tigrex as it cant shoot them, tigrex would have better air maneuverability since its chest, back and wings would have more muscel development then the rath as its getting WORKED OUT more then the raths

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>Learning LBG
>Decide to try the 7 Star capture Steve request quest solo with it
>Going well, I thought
>Jho shows up, but not a huge problem
>40 fucking minutes later I realize I'm either really shit at gunning or need a better gun/ammo
>Steve finally tired
>set a trap in zone he just flew to
>JHO WALKS IN
>Goes right for trap
>1 trap used
>Wait for Steve to leave (forgot dung bombs)
>Immediately follow him
>Set up trap right where the zone entry point is
>Steve dances around it for a few minutes
>Finally get him in it
>Land a tranq
>JHO OUTTA FUCKING NOWHERE
>SENDS ME FLYING AS HE UNBURROWS ON THE SPOT
>BLOCKS MY SECOND TRANQ ATTEMPT
>Steve gets out
>Go all the way back to base for the third trap while Steve flies off to sleep
>2 minutes left
>Arrive in the second to last zone just in time to see Jho walk into the zone Steve is sleeping in.
>Abandon quest

Always remember to bring dung bombs lads. Always.

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>>169191001
>10km squared of map is a meme walking sim
>10km squared of map with loading screens is not

Stockholm syndrome is a horrible thing

>>169191498
it goes 10km2 without loading and 5km2 with transitions
besides, arena based gameplay in open-world???

>>169191380
I had a dream about a fucking Chameleos deviant, I was raping that shit, smashing its head with a Fatalis GS then a fucking Jho and a goddamn WoW diablosaurus came out of nowhere and would never EVER leave the area, even when I threw shit at them

>>169191592
>it goes 10km2 without loading and 5km2 with transitions

Does it?
Where are you getting this information?

>>169191823
Any MH area, there are long corridors you don't go through so you're instantly in the next arena.

>>169191379
Tigrex's wing structure is different from the rathalos. Tigrex has more like chicken or goose wings. So it can flap a good distance but it can't really fly. In the game we see it jump and land somewhere else but that's all we see of its aerial ability. It never uses that in combat aside from a quick flap for its long range pounce attack which is just a boosted jump and not flying.

>>169192047
ok lets say its cant snipe rath out of the air, what can the rath do? try and fire ball it when the tigrex is easly fast enough to move out of the way, or try and tail flip it when the tigrex can just roar it out of the air and then spin to win.
rath doesnt have shit on the tigrex man even if it had air supiriority

>>169191379
Have you looked at both monsters? Rath has more chest and back muscle than a tigrex. Its wing structure is more appropriate to flight, it takes from bats. On the other hand Tigrex skeleton is closer to a flying squirrel.

>>169192027
In most maps the areas are really close together.

>>169192340
No they're not.

>>169192385
Yes they are

>>169192481
Boot up any game, it's been too long you haven't looked at a transition area.

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>>169190206
>this entire post

hi/salut

>>169192304
>body builders are stronger then power lifter because they look bigger
anon its not all about looks

>>169192524
No you do that and see how close they are. Especially 4th gen maps

Redpill me on aerial and adept hammer.

Aerial loses the super pound but gains an enhanced uppercut. Aerial double hit motion values look good but it looks really hard to aim at the head while airborne. Can mount easier than other styles but that's just a side bonus.

Adept loses the uppercut but gains an enhanced side swing, not very useful that. But it also gains training wheels evasion, an enhanced uppercut, a super uppercut, and an ultra super pound. These all hit really hard and have high stun values.

Are they worth it? All I was using before for arts were evasion and readiness so only having readiness doesn't much bother me.

>>169192674
4th gen's map are smaller but they're still far from being open-world with loading zones, the transition still skip a part of what could be useless travel.

>>169192586
Have you never seen a bird in your life?

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>>169192586
Sometimes it is.

>>169192787
Or you widen the opening and what used to be the transition path will also be part of the stage area. Still a short distance.

>>169192586
>

>>169192824
>thats a rational question
>>169192840
>posts a power lifter
what?

>>169192027
Yes because they're designed around therehaving to be loading screens for fuck's sake
Literally defending technical limitations as a design choice

>>169192854
No it's not a "short distance" it's a shorter distance. The maps are still big enough to benefit from transition areas.

>>169193038
Or the maps are small enough to benefit from being open world.

>>169193105
They wouldn't because the game is ARENA BASED.
If it wasn't you'd need some bullshit like Okami/Bayonetta walls coming out of nowhere.

>>169193201
>running away from monsters
What a casul. But can easily be fixed by giving monsters a limited line of sight.

I want to mating press Miss Cat!

>>169192289
Oh, I'm not the guy you were talking to before, I was just pointing out its wing structure isn't suited for sustained flight. Yeah, tigrex would fuck rath's shit up if it was anywhere close enough in the air that it can't dodge in time before tigrex tackles it out of the air. Tigrex is way stronger physically and has four limbs to work with for that savage animal grappling that happens when animals fight. If tigrex knocks rath out of the air it's over, he wins. He's stronger and rath could not escape to the air again once grounded. Tigrex would maul the shit out of him. The only way rath can really fight tigrex is to fly way high up out of range and do some crazy hard target leading with fireballs trying to hit him from long distance with slow projectiles. It'd take a long time to kill him that way and he can't fly forever. He'd get tired and have to land eventually. If tigrex is still alive then he just tracks him down and mauls the shit out of him. Tigrex wins again.

>>169193201
>Jurassic Frontier 6 walls are relevant
>Open world can't have walls

Just take the same maps and then take away loading screens
How is that bad?

>>169193282
What are you talking about?
It's not the point, gameplay is not as fast paced when the world is open because it's a time sink. You're basically asking for Dwarf Fortress to be like Banjo Kazooie.
>>169193383
They are, but at the same time the area's gimmick is to be wide open.

They can, but with too many walls it turns into a fake open-world, what the game already is.

It's bad because transition areas are part of the gameplay, it's not a limitation it's a design choice.

>drop evasion +1
>feel like can't dodge shit, scared as fuck
>still can dodge shit
>even dodging roars
did I got gud or is the 0.2 invincibility secs to 0.33 sec a meme?

>>169193543
See >>169189316

Looks pretty fast paced to me now that monsters can chase you all over the map

>>169192289
On land TIgrex wins 100%, I never argued with that.

>>169193649
That's a showcase video, it's scripted as fuck, it's not real gameplay.

>>169193772
Concept video, written in the title.

>>169193312
>I was just pointing out its wing structure isn't suited for sustained flight
well then you wouldnt know i was just saying that the tirgrex has stronger wingarms/ chest back so that he could gain the high faster then the rath so that he could get enough altitiude to kck the rath out of the air or that it could snipe it form under it. i thinkit got outa controll with the other guy implying that i was saying in just an arial combat situation that the tigrex would win.
but 100% the rath would since its suited to the sustained flight, just saying in a normal fight it would just knock the rath out of the air then distroy it
>>169193683
and i was saying that the rathi has stronger muscelsso it could gain the higher ground in the air or snipe the rath underneth so it could knock it out of the air. wasnt trying to say it could have a dog fight in the air with the rath

>>169193802
Yes, CONCEPT, not actual gameplay.
It's a showcase of all the climbing mechanics, not a showcase of the new open-world design.
Look at Bioshock Infinite (lol) showcase video, they showed fake content so as to not spoil the game but most mechanics made it into the final game even if it was completely different, are you 8? Have you never seen any concept video?

>>169193927
Concept is what they wanted to achieve. And they're showing open world. Why are you being so defensive about it?

>>169194121
>Open-world
Looks linear. Are you sure you're not projecting your desires?

>>169194181
Just reflecting on what they showed back in 2011, which was open areas that monsters can chase you across the map. A new concept in MH.

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CLACKETY

>>169193543
>It's bad because transition areas are part of the gameplay, it's not a limitation it's a design choice.

So with unlimited resources they would choose to put in a loading screen? Fuck off.

>>169195469
Not a loading screen, a transition, like MHO.

how do i git gud at these arena quests
can't get A solo for the life of me

>>169194121
>>169194291
But even that concept looks like shit.

The climbing showcase was nice, but the open world aspect is pointless because you don't play the game by running from a Tigrex for 5 minutes.

Monster Hunter is mostly about sticking to a monster and avoiding it's attacks while in close combat.

Fuck, the thing where the monster leaves a zone is a huge gameplay component as it's basically the bell signifying the end of the round for both the player AND the monster to get their bearings again.

That's why they consider it harder to fight a monster when it's in a single arena, because there's no break and nowhere to run.

Fact is, open world really wouldn't help Monster Hunter in any way. It's designed to work with small, connected arenas.

>>169195539
Me neither

>>169195605
Monsters are AI they don't need to get their bearings again.

Which weapon is the most MLG so I can be xXxPussySlayer420xXx69?

Ey guys, I'm a newhuntard, I just finish my first high rank set. I have full rathalos S and seregios greatsword +3 and +3fastcharge OOO charm.

With that set I have: focus, WE, and attack +2 and 160atk 10% affinity weapon.

But if i use Hidden blade +3 I can go to attack +3 with the extra socket, and the weapon would be 150atk and 30% affinity.

So it is best using the hidden blade? Because I dont really know the value of affinity.

>>169195705
Adept Dual Blades or Aerial Switch Axe

>>169195717
ignore affinity and get crit draw

>>169184598
>>169194719
Excuse me, I'd like to adopt a narga kitten.

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>>169195919

>>169195686
The process of a monster flying away gives it a good 20 seconds to lower it's incoming DPS and thus help it get over a stun lock.
More if the monster uses a shortcut and the hunter has to travel multiple zones to reach them again.

Also, changing terrain can sometimes help either the monster or the hunter.
That zone at the top of the Volcano Map is fucking hell for monsters cause it's got so many ledges that can block attacks and let hunters do mounting hits.
Meanhwile, the big zone in the bottom of the map with the huge cliff is better for monsters as it has more room for them to run around, even into the lava, without there being too many cliffs or cover for the hunter.

Of course, a skilled hunter can really just shrug off this disadvantage or even use it to their own advantage.
But the point is that changing zones does matter for both parties.

>>169195506
MHO does the same thing because that's the way it's always been and changing things upsets people looking for a nostalgia trip. See styles/arts being considered this massive shake up.
If you want to stop a monster chasing you you would place something in the level that the monster can't chase you through. Collapsed trees/rocks or a small cave entrance.
That's how it would be done in any other game.
But we're on handhelds.

I'm not saying have BOTW boring walking through empty field areas, just that the game would be better without fading to black to load the next area.

>>169196137
Only happens when monster HP reached a certain threshold as per the AI, not because of some nerdy shit like stun lock or wanting to fight on better terrain. And monster fleeing can still be done in open world.

>>169195705
aerial CB

>>169196264
But that's not what the game is about, it's basically a PvE fighting game, you don't use the environment, you use your weapon and your body.

What is so wrong with transitioning between arenas?

>>169196442
That's what is shown in the MH4 concept movie. You climb up high so that tigrex cannot chase you, or to buy enough time because tigrex takes time to climb

>>169196442
You can still move your body freely.

If the transitions were shortened to 0.1 seconds would that be bad? Because that's pretty much what I'm after.
Only reason not to is if you want to leave to sharpen/heal safely like an enormous coward, and even then they can just block the monster in places.

>>169192771
Hammer main here. Just play Guild. It's the most consistent and satisfying of all the styles.

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>>169195919

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>>169195919

>>169196665
But it doesn't slow it down, you've played 4th gen. You also don't dodge that way, that's running away, not fighting, that's an egg quest map, not a hunting map.
Why are you convinced they dropped ""open-world"" because it couldn't run instead of dropping it because it didn't fit the series?

>>169196743
Transition can be instant, it's not the problem, this guy wants to get rid of them. Sure loading is annoying but transitioning between arenas is part of the core gameplay.

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what's your hunting music
mine's the carly rae jepsen
baby
take me
to the
feeling

>>169196943
>Sure loading is annoying but transitioning between arenas is part of the core gameplay.
But it doesn't have to be.
It could be the same game with the exact same gameplay without them, they just needed to divide areas to stop the console chugging. It would still be arena based fighting but by design rather than necessity.
Unless you can clarify why dividing them into separate mini-levels is important because I'm really not getting it.

>>169197160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAnIfX13ky8
who /trap/ here

>>169196943
They dropped open world because of hardware limitation.

>>169197217
so the game is ARENA BASED
It's not a hunting game, it's a boss-rush game with "hunting" elements to make it more lifelike.

>>169196264
>>169196305
>>169196743
The thing you seem to be misunderstanding is that all of the game's design is built around zones.

It's not a matter of transitions, it's a matter of limitations.
Zones are basically small arenas wherein certain things can be controlled and changed.
Monsters can spawn, monsters can enter or leave, players can enter or leave, etc.

Without zones, you'd have to come up with a bunch of new shit to cover things like multiple monster hunts.
And you'd need a much more sophisticated system for the monsters sensing the player.
And a lack of walls to the arenas would mean that there'd be limit issues on what you could do with more mobile monsters. Like, there's literally some monsters that make use of the fact that there are limits to player movement by breaking them and moving beyond the player's reach momentarily.

Essentially, you'd need a lot more realism that would only hurt the gameplay.
Monster Hunter isn't a realistic game. It has a lot of unrealistic things that are purposefully put in to make the gameplay of it more consistent and enjoyable.

>>169197360
Why are you overblowing this zone shit when it doesn't matter in the slightest? If open world is implemented, they will just make a line of sight system like any other open world game for you to run away. Just like God Eater or Freedom Wars.

>>169197334
Yes I'n not saying it isn't.
But arenas connected by walking with a loading screen in the middle is inferior to arenas connected by walking without a loading screen.

>>169197360
>Without zones, you'd have to come up with a bunch of new shit to cover things
Like a fallen tree, a cliff, or a cave entrance. The things that are already in the game but have a loading screen on them. Some actual level design instead of "the monster is leaving you alone because ???".
It can be exactly the same game but not snatch the controller away from you for five seconds at entry points.

muh autism

>>169196909
not canon

>>169197829
Open world is not "arena connected" I never said loading times were good but transitions are necessary to the gameplay, whether you think it's cowardly or not zoning out to sharpen and heal IS part of the gameplay.

>>169197993
Just run away from monster's line of sight to "zone out" like any other game.

>>169197993
>zoning out to sharpen and heal IS part of the gameplay.

So what the fuck do you do in arena/sanctuary?
Not that what has been proposed would stop you running away to sharpen and heal.

I've seen nothing here that indicates you aren't only defending it because that's what you're used to.

>>169197774
>doesn't matter in the slightest
Faggot, I JUST explained multiple reasons why it does matter.
The game is built on the idea of multiple interconnected BUT SEPARATE arenas.
An open world system couldn't support that beyond what >>169197829 is saying.

But the problem with that faggot's ideology is two big things.
First, there's no point to having them be open world where you could see the monster past the tree when the monster couldn't actually get past the fucking tree.
Not seeing shit and going through a scene transition is quick and makes more sense.

And, more importantly,
>the monster is leaving you alone because ???
Because it forces a change in the gameplay.
There's a reason they save single arena hunts for crazy elder dragons or huntathons.
Regular monsters need to change zones to make the hunt more interesting. A change of terrain and potentially some new options for the monster.

Again, you need to understand that more realistic gameplay =/= more fun gameplay.
You can make a physics game with perfect box stacking physics, but people will get bored of it when they can't make a crazy structure like they could in a less realistic physics engine.
Same goes for realism in a fucking monster hunting game.

>>169198457
See >>169198358

>>169198358
It doesn't even have to block line of sight, just the monster, which is what half the transitions in this game already are.
The ones that aren't are fucking trash like the central Marshlands one that happens with no indication.

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What will the game tie up be like?

>>169198457
>Not seeing shit and going through a scene transition is quick and makes more sense.

Yeah man take control away, excellent gameplay. Loading screens are such a great design choice, I wish they lasted longer.

>Because it forces a change in the gameplay.
>Regular monsters need to change zones to make the hunt more interesting. A change of terrain and potentially some new options for the monster.

Not affected by removing loading screens.

This is like defending low framerates as cinematic lmao

>>169198358
>>169198505
>A monster flying away to a new zone is dumb
>But you should totally be able to run out of the fucking panther dragon's line of sight easily when it's pissed and coming for your ass.

Do you really not get this?

It would be like what was in that 4 concept trailer.
You'd be running away from the fucker forever because monsters are WAY faster than you are.
And while that trailer seemed exciting, it'd be fucking painful to play. Having to go through that shit whenever you needed to break away and breath is ridiculous.
And every other moment should be the opposite of it, with you shoving your dick right down the monster's throat.
That's why arena based maps work in this game. Because you're supposed to be in a small area with a fucking giant monster.
It's simply how the game works.

>>169198701
>game to movie
>game to movie that drops the original world to have a generic patriotic family man save America

I'll watch it for fite only

>>169198885
That's where flashbangs come in. Like in God Eater when you want to run away. Or a fixed line of sight that's not originating from the monster but rather from a faux zone.

>>169198435
Those are "oh fuck" arenas, they favour the monster, it's not hard.

>>169198837
If it takes longer to travel between arenas than with transitions, it's a shit choice and needs to be scrapped.
Open world makes traversing the world take longer. It gets scrapped.

>>169199206
Basically this

>>169198837
>take control away, excellent gameplay.
Yes, you dumb fucking child.

Gameplay is literally built upon taking control away.
Literally part of the definition of a game is having rules, otherwise people could do whatever the fuck they wanted which could easily ruin a game.

There is a point where that philosophy goes too far, of course. Quicktime events are the extreme end of it and they are pretty much always shit.

But fucking partitioning off areas for gameplay to occur is a basic game design tool. Levels have been a thing for more than just computational reasons.
Open world is for much larger "vaster" games. Shit where you're supposed to become immersed for hours exploring every nook and cranny.
That shit ain't Monster Hunter.
Monster Hunter is about having many small, focused hunts. You're trying to get in, find the target, and complete the quest. There's no need for exploring beyond basic gathering shit.

Open World would just slow down and unfocus the gameplay that the arena style maps already perfectly provide.

>>169198837
>remove loading screens
>keep transitions
IS IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

>>169198885
>it'd be fucking painful to play. Having to go through that shit whenever you needed to break away and breath is ridiculous.
Obviously, it's trailer bait.

But if I'm playing a fighting game and knock the opponent through a break wall/off the stage I don't expect a loading screen before the next arena, and any fighting game that did that would be fucking ridiculed by the community.

>>169199206
>If it takes longer to travel between arenas than with transitions, it's a shit choice and needs to be scrapped.
Agreed, I'm not getting BOTW because it looks like a walking sim.
>Open world makes traversing the world take longer.
Says who? If the current maps had no fade out at the boundaries how would take longer to get around?

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FFXV is open world hunting done right. You literally cannot prove me wrong.

>>169199401
Much longer, look at Deserted Island spawn to coast distance. Look at the time it takes to go from old volcano spawn to teo's spawn, imagine that but instead you have to walk all the way the transition skips.

>>169199510
Wrong, walking sim
You're probably false flagging the opposition in this argument tbqh

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>>169199510
>hold circle: the game

>>169199651
As opposed to spam absolute readiness: the game?

>>169199620
Yeah but again the game is build around having to divide levels up for limitation reasons. There's plenty of places where it would make no difference, pretty much all of JF for example.

>>169199707
Keep you bait to /v/ fucktard, we actually discuss things seriously in here.

>>169199620
>deserted island
First area is just after a tunnel from camp. Second area is just down the hill which you can see from the top of the hill. The next one is just after the opening between the two cliffs, which you can get rid to make a big area. Then follow the stream to immediately for a short cavernous area to reach the coast. Everything is right next to each other.

>>169199736
>>169199949
Do you not see these insane distances the transition skips for you? Sure there are a few "instant" transitions but these would take about 4s to cross.

>>169200140
You shorten the distance to make it work. It's not drastic in that map.

>>169200363
>it's not drastic
>Jurassic Spawn to 1 is the size of the map
>1 to waterfall in D.Island is pretty much the same distance
???

Manke MH half open like dark souls

>>169200513
The rest of the map is right next to each other. You don't do anything in the first area, but can be easily made into another adjacent area.

It's surprising how people have absolutely no grasp of MH gameplay

>>169199736
This is mostly seen with MH4 original maps, most likely because they did plan to make the game maps be one seamless area early on. There's plenty of variety within these maps, so it probably wouldn't hurt map variety much to make it open world: the designers have shown they can work with that.

>>169200807
It seems like they don't even have a grasp on gameplay in general.

You don't just slap some game mechanic onto another game because "guys it would be so cool".
Shit needs to have meaning and contribute to the experience.

Open world would be a detriment to the fast paced, close quarters gameplay of Monster Hunter.

A lot of people I hunt with here cart more than they should.
Learn the monsters you silly hunters.

>>169200959
GE is fast paced, not MH.

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>>169199752
>we actually discuss things seriously in here.

>>169200971
>expecting skills from 4chan

You come here if you want to have fun not if you want to play with good players

>>169201121
Just because you don't doesn't mean we also don't.

>>169200140
Why did you ignore how JF shows it doesn't need to be that way?

>>169200959
>taking away loading screens would slow down the fast paced gameplay

>>169201128
Might as well hunt with randoms then.
I just want /mhg/ to be good.

Vita: Never
Consoles: Never
MonHun status: Stagnant

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>>169199752
>we actually discuss things seriously in here.

>>169200971
M-most of them are from discord. W-we're good, I swear!

>>169201180
Where? In SOME of the area where you skip a 5s walk instead of a 2min walk?
Taking away loading screens IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE, taking away TRANSITIONS is.

>>169201208
It was good in the G games.
Not sure why it's all shitters in Gen. You'd think it being an easier game would make for less carts.

>>169201352
But you can have the exact same gameplay using functional transitions instead of nonsensical ones. Half the transitions in this game are set up as such (entering a cave, climbing a ledge/cliff) because they also make convenient indicators to a player of when a loading screen will occur.

>>169201689
Is it hard to understand? THIS IS NOT AGAINST TRANSITIONS, THIS IS AGAINST BOTW-LIKE OPEN-WORLD.
TRANSITIONS ARE GOOD BECAUSE THEY SKIP USELESS WALK AND KEEP THE GAMEPLAY FAST BY ALLOWING TO JUMP IN THE ACTION.

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>>169201176
>we

>mfw I hacked my vita in 2 minutes by opening a browser

vita already commit suicide and died twice before it got cracked there isn't going to be another sony handheld I can't even find enough good games to pirate

>>169201810
I guess we're just arguing semantics then because none of us want empty fields.

>>169201895
atelier meruru, muramasa rebirth and ps1 games are all you need

>>169201107
MH moves at a breakneck speed for grandpas
they couldn't even handle a double jump in GE!

Who /DamascusR/ here? Feels good to look good. I just wish it had some skills good for hammers like some relic pieces I had in 4U. You have to use it with a greatsword in this one.

>>169200902
Fucking hell, this is why there aren't any shortcuts is it? We can't jump from the side of base camp in camp to have the river carry us to area 10 because of interconnectivity getting in the way of convenience.

>>169202165
Talking about overall pacing, not just combat. MH as a game is designed to waste your time.

>>169202398
more time to look at charlotte's butt

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>>169202197
>Damascus
damn...

really makes u think...

>>169202197
you mean /r/damascus/ ?

>Heavens Mount isn't returning in XX

>>169202323
What?
3U maps don't let you jump to the end of the area either, there's a build up to monster lairs and mountain tops.
By that logic you should be able to tap any area to teleport there because it's "convenient".

>>169189316
Might be cool for MH5's free field/expedition equivalent

So /mhg/ what is

1. Your first MH game
2. You favorite MH game
3. Your favorite monster
4. Your favorite weapon

>>169203050
>1
>Dos/Tri
>Nibelsnarf
>Hammer

>>169202781
>Deserted Island
>Base Camp to 9

>Flooded Forest
>Base Camp to 6

>Sandy Plains
>Base Camp to 7

Retard.

>>169202697
Good. Fuck all that climbing needed to reach the rath's nest

It was cool for every other monster, though.

>>169203050
4U
4U
Don't have one
CB

>>169203050
>4U
>Gen
>Glavenus
>LS, CB, GL

>>169203050
>1
MH3U
>2
FU but I never got the full experience. 4U is close second.
>3
Black Diablos
>4
Lance and HBG

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>>169203050
MH Freedom
MH4U
Nerscylla
HBG/Nerscylla HBG

>>169203050
p3rd
4U
Brachy
spin2winblades

>>169203385
Those alternative skins are impressively terrible.

>>169203050
Freedom Unite
Tri, the online was alot of fun
Dalamadur
Gaelic Flame LS

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>>169203050
>1. Your first MH game
MHFU
>2. You favorite MH game
MH4U
>3. Your favorite monster
Rajang
>4. Your favorite weapon
HBG

>>169203050
>1. Your first MH game
4U
>2. You favorite MH game
all have their ups and downs, possibly 4U
>3. Your favorite monster
Gore, Garuga
>4. Your favorite weapon
depends on the game

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>>169201895

>>169203115
Ah sorry, I have a gf and forgot about those 3

Volcano and Tundra and Misty peaks are pretty great too, fuck 4U taking all that away

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>>169203050
>1. Your first MH game
MHTri
>2. You favorite MH game
MH4U
>3. Your favorite monster
Amatsumagatsuchi
>4. Your favorite weapon
Charge Blade

>>169202697
>still no yama tsukami

>>169203050
SOMEONE ASK CHARLOTTE I WANT TO KNOW

>>169203679
Tundra was kind of boring t b h, the only good thing was the 2 secret areas monsters can break into

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>>169203479
User was encased in web and left to hang for this post.

>When I find you I'm gonna wear your skin

>>169203772
he said "all of them" to favorite game, monster and weapon

>>169203772
>I don't know.
>I don't know.
>I don't know.
>I don't know.
>You can post.
There, saved you one minute.

>>169203479
>the ones I was introduced to are the best ones

Huh what an interesting coincidence!

>>169204132
You can't seriously think the generic lava one is good, or the kecha one, or the mouth one?

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Guys, hey guys, guys, i heard you like fun. I'm personaly a funny guy myself, prepare to become amused by my quests.

>>169203115
>only found the plains one like three days ago
>never dound the other two
Nice.

>>169204225
But Jho is insanely fun, the only unfun Jho is 140 Jho because ballerina AND projectile stomp.

>>169204225
>playing 3U
>farm Crimson Quropeco just because Jho always comes
>get early jho parts and free hunt bonus

>>169204196
I'm not going to argue because it's subjective, I was just wondering if we dislike alternate designs because it "isn't right" rather than being genuinely worse.
What if Kecha or Gendrome (?) were the original Nerscylla? Would we have been more approving then than we are now after getting used to the two we have?

Also free will is an illusion.

>>169204537
Kecha is gross because for some reason the ears are flattened and claws are next to it.
Mouth is stupid.
I dislike them because they're genuinely worse.

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Post your unity with Charlotte!

>>169204537
>Shit kecha nerscylla
your pic
>good kecha nerscylla
ears cover the face, no back spikes

>>169204335
Nope, he is clearly designed to make you stop the game. Even elder dragons are easier.

>>169204927
well? where is yours?

>>169204951
>your pic

Come on dude I didn't post it nor do I need to defend it
Tribalism leave

>>169204965
Shagaru is harder than Deviljho tbqh

>>169204927
>HR 342

When the hell was the last time you hunted with them?

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>>169205312
Thanks, i think i'll stop playing again.

>>169205058
It isn't the one on the bottom screen?

>>169205341
Not too long ago. She was already 999. Not sure why the guild card doesn't update.

>>169205729
it's the one in Card List, next to the name

>>169205867
Then what's that point with the moofah and meowstress?

>>169206059
their own total unity across all players

>>169206152
O-oh...

>>169204927
close to 60k I think

>>169205729
>Not sure why the guild card doesn't update.
That's the card of Charlotte the first. He lost his save when he changed systems so there's a new card.

>>169203050
1. MHFU
2. MHTri
3. Qurupeco
4. Lance

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Anyone else an 11.2 homebrew+english translation patch virgin here?

I can't even think of any other games to grab for it, I just want my early ultimate.

>>169204965
>Kirin
Easier
>Kush
Harder
>Cham
Easier
>Teo
Way harder
>Shaggy
Harder
>Ala
Harder
>Amatsu
Easier
>Fatty
Easier
>Gog
Harder

It's a bit of a 50/50.

>>169203050
MHFU
MHFU but I just broke into HR for 4U so I can't give my verdict yet.
Teostra or Zinogre
LS although I'm finding DB the most fun in 4U.

>>169208007
I'm about to hack my old 3ds XL to play XX early, But I think I will buy Gen U.
Probably.
Maybe.

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>>169203050
3U
Gen? Idk they're pretty much the same game but later games have more monsters
Nerscylla
Lance

>no favorite area

I suppose seeing Misty Peaks a dozen times would get old

>>169203050
>4U
>4U. But I like everything I've played pretty much equally.
>Rajang
>Hammer, specifically the Demonlord Hammer.

>>169203050
FU
Tri
Naruga
Pretty even tie between hammer and bow.

What is the most patrician weapon?

>>169210117
Tonfa

>>169210117
The one charlotte switches to when you post the quest

>>169210117
Ironic GS :^)

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>tfw everything in Gen is way too easy to hammer except hypers

>>169210117
lance or hammer

both are the least anime

>>169210993
What about SnS and guns?

>>169210993
>giant fucking club
>not anime

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>>169210272
>tfw you'll never be good at using a hammer on alatreon, fatalis, deviljho, glavenus, agnaktor, brachydios, lagiacrus, rajang, plesioth, or chameleos

Why do I like this weapon so much when after multiple games I'm still complete garbage with it against most of the monsters?

>>169211565
just practice

>>169211565
>Trying to hammer Rajang, Agnaktor, Plesioth and Chameleos

Should I bother with the Toka Armor Set?

>>169212602
It's got good pieces. You would probably be missing out on some sort of decent set if you ignored it.

>>169212602
Are you using a SnS, DB, or bowgun? Then yes.
Otherwise spare yourself the trouble.

>>169210117
CB

>one of the worst weapons in the game
>highest skill floor to use correctly

pure patrician

>>169212791
>>169212831
Im using an IG with a Speed Kinsect of 30% Affinity. I was thinking Critical up and Repeat Offender could be good

>>169210117
Hunting Horn

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>>169203385
We need more temnocerans

>>169212948
CB is at the very least better than hammer, for solo its better than HH, better than the stupid cat and better than the single hopping lance. Its not op as fuck like in 4U but not the worst either. Unelss you meant it will be shit in MHXX, Im not keeping up with that.

>>169203050
F2
P3rd
Garooooga
GL, despite having never seriously used it outside of 3U.

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Tenderizer 5 dreadking -3 two slots. Negative numbers are a fucking mistake on rolls.

>after killing like 15 gore shitgalas I realize I could trade my VE silver tickets for a plate
fugg :DDD

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>>169215064
>shitgalas

CEASE

best Normal GL?

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>Your favorite monster will never return
What's his name /mhg/

>>169210993
How is the least anime make weapons more patrician? If anything it should be the most anime because 4chan is the home of anime.

>>169215535
Glacial Agnaktor.

>>169215423
why don't you marry it if you love that thing so much
>>169215535
absolute bad taste

>>169215535
>that Epioth sized throat

spook

IF YOU READ THIS WHILE SCROLLING YOU MUST CREATE A HUNTING ROOM NOW OR YOUR FAVORITE WEAPON GETS NERFED IN MHXX

>>169215692
I'm used to GL and HH being shit. I'll pass.

>>169215692
But the Commemoration Sword isn't in XX!

>>169215692
joke's on you i'm never touching XX

>>169215064
Assuming you at least got the head break, that's 1-((.95^3)(.97))^15. That's 0.93702933901.

Good job turning the desire sensor against you.

>>169215692
Jokes on you, it's already nerfed. ;_;

>>169215535
Abyssal Lagiacrus :((((

>>169215859
get fucked cuckblade

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>>169215628

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>>169215535
Dire

>>169215920
CB is nerfed?
I thought GL was nerfed

Alright /mhg/, I'm gonna try and make up some Deviants.

>Nerscylla Deviant
>Has killed a Chameleos, allowing it to turn invisible using the beast's hide
>Almost all attacks it does give off poison
>Shoots out larger webs
>Can do Spiderman-level web swinging

>>169215975
>image
I read that a few weeks ago. Decent taste.

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>>169215535
Only good underwater fight tbqh

>>169215485
Hellblade. Akantor has the highest level of normal but you have to sacrifice a lot to make it usable.

>>169216345
What? It's the second worst after Ludroth.

>>169215692
Actually, my weapon has gotten what may be the biggest buff of all, so hah. Really didn't need it, either.

>>169215535
Lol, zinogre is always around.

>>169216524
Is the Narkakos one bad compared to the Hellblade?

I wanted to make that one since it looks cooler

>>169215485
For poking, Hellblade GL.
For shelling, Snowbaron GL.

Anyone going to be pirating MHXX on 2DS?

How is the 2DS MonHun experience?

>>169217012
That's a wide shot gunlance. It has very low green sharpness. With sharpness+1 and razor sharp it'd be usable if you want to slap bludgeoner on it. That -25% affinity is looking pretty bad for your pokes though.

>>169215692
lance is numero uno so it will probably get nerfed anyway

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>>169215535
I don't care bout the monster but damn do I want the armor again.

>>169217384
>pokes
I just want to Slam and Burst

>>169217384
>>169217510
oh and Im talking about the Anguished Centaurus not the Abyss Gunlance

>>169203050
1
3U, because it was the first time i had a hunting group, and my best memories
Chameleos
The very big sword.

>>169217510
>I just want to Slam and Burst>>
Snowbaron GL would be the best for that.

>>169218189
Snowbaron it is

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>>169203050
>3U but I did play 1 for like 10 minutes when it first came out
>Generations
>Gore Magala
>HBG

Post good monster theme music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XcLA5gClk

>>169218542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVtMBBsljxk

>>169218542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a4UI9JhcCA

anyone able to get the XX demo working through freeshop?