/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

No matter how shitty you think the writing in your game might be, it can't be worse than Night in The Woods

>>168999281
previous thread is actually here

is it possible to make a MMO with unity or game maker as a indie dev? Or are we just cucked to doing simple RPGs with small multiplayer elements?

>>169053986
Did it really end up so shit? I remember the trailer showed a very clear style and vision, hard to imagine them fucking up.

>>169054149
You can network a simple game to a server (think RotMG), you can't make WoW.

>>169054149
Just why the fuck are there so many retards here who think an indie MMO is even remotely viable?

>>169053802
Fable has three ability paths: Strength, skill and will.
Strength focuse on melee, physical power and endurance.
Skill focuses on ranged,agility and mobility.
Will focuses on magic.

In combat you get experiance based on what you use.
eg. use only melee and you get three general experience to use in any path and seven strength experience that can only be spent in that path.

>>169054265
I watched someone play through it and it's exactly what I expected it to be based on the trailer: all style, no substance. Shitty boring characters, shitty boring story that ends with a giant fucking expository dump at the end just to explain something, and there's next-to-no gameplay.

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>>169054149
While not an MMO, I'm curious to see how many connections my game can realistically handle. I've only tried a couple so far. Hoping to get a decent stress test going on some demo day.

>>169054314
Because it is

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>>169053502
I WANT TO FUCK PIXELMEME GIRL

>>169054440
> giant flying windmill attacks castle

>>169054314

because WoW started off as a project in someones garage before taking off.

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>>169054149

>>169054515
Ah perfect, I was thinking about world boss ideas.

>>169053802

Grimrock 2 gave each character a few skills depending on the class. Stuff like acrobatics, light weapons mastery, fire magic, etc.
Each skill went from 0 to 5, and every time you levelled up you'd get a skill point to spend.
For example, let's say heavy weapon mastery. Each point you spent on that, gives you +X% chance to hit with heavy weapons. On top of that, there were some "special rewards". At level 2 mastery you could attack from the back of the party with a heavy weapon, and at mastery level 5 you could wield a 2 handed weapon in one hand.
Then there were weapons with special requirements (2 h weapon mastery needed to wield), and weapons with special attacks, like, for example, earthquake bash, that also had skill requirements.

Mix that with a bunch of different skills for each class, different weapons and magic with a lot of requirements, and you get a really customizable upgrade system.

I really, really liked it, and I'm not a huge fan of rpgs

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Nothing like some progress to end a busy day !! What are you working on anon? Demo day is only 14 days away and I can't wait to play your game!

>>169054764
can I publish not a game to demoday
I have made 0 progress on my for real game

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cubes made of laser.

Jam game ideas, give them to me

>>169054623
That actually sounds really nice.
Thanks for the info.

Also, does Grimrock 1 have something similar or did it do things different?

>>169054863
What do you mean?
Uploading anything but a game is a huge disservice for everyone, I like to download all demos but will you
>>169054863
waste my time making me download some shit that isn't a game?

>>169054314
Viable/possible is not the same thing as practical. Indie MMO is possible and viable, but not practical. You need atleast a small team for a MMO to actually take off.

Minecraft is actually a MMO in the sense that a server can actually hold thousands of players at one time, mojang is just too retarded to optimize for such a player capacity so you only get servers with a few hundred at a time instead.

>>169054964

Gameshow jam?

It could be a basic gameshow format or action oriented like smash tv

>>169054314
wasn't maple story started by a group of indie devs?

>>169054897
amazing

>>169054983
It's a gamedev tool
that's totally fair tho, maybe I'll upload it at the same time and just not submit it to the jam page

>>169054149
>>169054996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGar7KC6Wiw

>>169055273

I think that would be most appropriate.

What does the tool do?

>>169054897
>Dodgeball Deathmatch.webm

>>169054971
Grimrock 1 had a system with a similar idea, but worse. It's not even worth explaining.
I like grimrock 1 more than 2, because it feels more like a dungeon crawler compared to the open world-ness of the second one. But the skill system in 2 is top notch.

You can give it a try without having played the first one, for research. they don't really connect story wise [ACTUAL SPOILER]until the ending.

>SquareDev wants to code
Made me think of something.

Why do artists still want to code in collab? Isn't the point of a collab to split the work?

He's not the first, I've met plenty of artists who wished they could find someone to work with because 'coding is a pain' but yet they still want to do coding for the game. I don't get it.

>>169055416
Aight, I'll probably give 2 a go for reasearch purposes later then.

>>169055474
Trust issues.

>>169055474
It's easier to prototype something if you don't have to wait somebody else

artists will write shitty code to see how their art looks in-engine, and programmers make shitty art to test new mechanics

I intend to express my love for the late '80s/early '90s sitcom Golden Girls (and celebrate its availability on Hulu) by means of a first-person dungeon crawl fan game where you play as the girls and fight classic D&D monsters and Lovecraftian horrors (plus the cast of Seinfeld) using one liners and curling irons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWbz_mIAShM

test

>>169054897
>that melodramtic stumble

>>169055605

What would be the classes?

>>169055605
cool tumblr-bait game, you might make some good money

>>169054897
this is hilarious

>>169056205
Not sure just yet. I'm still kind of brainstorming right now.
>>169056280
>money
It's based on an IP I don't own. I can't sell it. Also, tumblr-bait? It's a good show. I'm not making it to try and get fans from a specific website.

>>169054897

>The brutal execution while on his knees.

You are making a beautiful game anon.

>going to gamedev
>just shitpost and browse internet all day
>realize only time I ever get work done is when I leave the house and work in a public setting
>literally need incentive at the end of every session in order to get work done
>can't bring desktop computer to cafe or library though
>plus poor as shit and have nothing to really rewards myself with afterwards (i.e. can't just say "I'm going to go get some shitty fast food after my session!)
>tfw
What do I even do?

>>169056381
>first-person dungeon crawl fan game where you play as the girls and fight classic D&D monsters and Lovecraftian horrors (plus the cast of Seinfeld) using one liners and curling irons.
that's fucking tumblr bait if I ever heard it

>ironic le funny random xD setup
check
>le retro 90s seinfield jokes and ironic liking golden girlds XD
check
>le lovecraftesque HORROR SO BAD ITLL MAKE U GO CRAZZYYY D:
check

>>169057112
bait

This place is awful.

>>169057112
>ironic le funny random XD setup
I want to make a dungeon crawler for the experience and practice making a bigger game.
>le retro 90s seinfeld jokes
Seinfeld was extremely important to the development of the sitcom in terms of the better ones around today.
>ironic liking golden girlds XD
I'm not being ironic. It's actually an entertaining show.
>le lovecraftesque HORROR SO BAD ITLL MAKE U GO CRAZYYY D:
I don't intend to include an insanity mechanic. I just think weird slithering tentacled creatures are cool and creepy.

Lighten up.

Yup.

>>169057291
fish

I'm rebooting my low-fi wolfinstein clone that uses some homecooked primordial reverse-ray-casting technique to project the world.

>>169057213
>>169057291
alright, enjoy making reddit: the game

>>169057342
phil?

>>169053502

Anyone looking for a composer?

I want to get into composing music for games, I'm fully capable!

>>169057450
What DAW do you use?

>>169057558
99% Ableton, 1% Milkytracker

>>169055590
I'm talking about the ones looking for collabs precisely, not 1MA.

If you're looking for a collab what's the point of doing everything?

>>169057705
Sorry I only collab with FL Studio guys.

>>169057834

No worries pal

>>169057705
>Milkytracker
My nigger
I fucking love trackers

>>169057450
Post soundcloud/bandcamp/etc.

Anyone doing sci fi / cyberpunk type game and need music?

Why does everyone like to pretend that handedness doesn't matter? It's true that you can convert between them in a fairly trivial way, but if you have an engine of any significant size it's very important to pick one and stick with it, or things get very confusing. Even more so if you support both OGL and D3D.

Also, why is right-handedness the standard outside of D3D? The screen (ignoring stereoscopy) looks like a window into another world; things don't pop out of it, they sink into it. Z = increasing depth makes way more sense.

>>169057991
Okay, well I make tonnes of music but I'll just post the shit that's relevant to this thread.


Here is my RPG-esque stuff

https://isaedor.bandcamp.com/releases


Something I was working on today, not really finished yet
https://clyp.it/bnmlcby4

So after three days of brain storming and prototyping of a way to generate high quality random maps, I'm wondering if the idea is even worth it.

Are random maps a good feature? Is consistency better for a player than the possible replayability he might have?

I'm getting the feeling this is a waste of time and I should design levels by hand.

Ok, you give me money, and I'll make a game for you, deal?

>>169058382
did you switch topics there or am I missing something, because I'm not seeing the link between dominant hand and 3D direction

>>169058659
either is fine if done well.

>>169058659
Depends entirely on whether randomly placed elements in your environment have a reasonable likelihood of interacting in novel, interesting, or surprising ways. Procgen is at its best when the elements that comprise it make something greater than the sum of their parts.

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>>169058478
I wouldn't mind contracting your services for my game if you're not busy. The audience I'm aiming for is big in to classic-sounding game soundtracks (Betrayal at Krondor, etc) so this sort of style could go pretty nice with what I'm putting together.

If you're unfamiliar, here's a YT link to BaK's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U0Lh8-apvc

If you'd like a bit more on the game I'm working on (though the site isn't fully done yet): https://firgof.gamejolt.io/metanoia/

>>169058659
>brain storming and prototyping
Or, you could research into games that have already done it succesfully like Spelunky.
Although it depends on what type of game you have.

>>169058659
Procedural generation works well if and only if the entire game is designed around it. It works spectacularly in Spelunky, for instance. That game would quickly get boring as hell without it. Same for most roguelikes; random levels means the sense of exploration never runs out.

They make less sense in a story based game or one that's otherwise supposed to be cinematic/guided.

>>169058659
random maps are good

and custom maps are good

personally i think nothing can beat by hand but its time consuming

for instance black rock depths from warcraft is infinitely more interesting compared to any randomly generated map

however it might suffer from repeated play through which make randomly generated better
for things such as rogue likes or something of that nature

>>169058983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-hand_rule#Coordinates
Basically: Given X=right and Y=up, should Z mean in or out?

Is it easier to get followers on twitter than tumblr for your game? I'm getting real tired of Tumblr's political bullshit being shoved up my ass.

>>169059391
Twitter has political bullshit too
Also I'd use both

>>169059391
>Tumblr's political bullshit being shoved up my ass.
I've never had problems with Tumblr. What the fuck are you doing?

>>169059474
>>169059391
4chan also can't escape the political bullshit

it's just that it matches your views so you don't get triggered

>realise that my attempt at making a generic enemy system has a whole bunch of problems making weirder enemy systems and I might need to make custom enemy types as well

>>169058382
Because if your coordinate system is X,Y,Zup, it is right handed, as 1,0,0 x 0,1,0 = 0,0,1. And it is what mathematicians have been doing for decades and is most natural, since it allows to easily draw things like f(x,y)=z.
When these faggots came out and said "ah but what if we imagine X as the bottom border of the screen and Y as up and Z as going into the screen" anyone who did math wanted to kill them.

>>169058659
Random maps can be good if you need a lot of content with not much manpower. However, you need to make them well, obviously.

My random map generator is decent in my opinion, but being random occasionally makes maps that are really bad, as well as maps that are very good.

>>169059509
Seems like everyday the "staff" has shit on my feed about muh refugees, muh blacks, muh trannies. It would be nice if I could just block that stuff from appearing.

>>169059564
Nobody calling my game sexist tough

>>169059753
this is the folly of your ways

black people trannys and refugees BUY games

your shooting yourself in the foot t b h

>>169059923
not him but that has nothing to do with annoying spam in your feed

half of it is stupid ads, and not real "ads" that can be blocked by adblock but ads for tumblr things or sponsored posts

twitter does it too, though.

>>169059753
If you're looking for a website with no political bullshit, I have just the thing:

>>169058478
>another kiwi
>auklander
Figures.

>>169059753
>>169059509
you can unfollow them, which I realized just now.

>>169059753
>>169060092
>bitch about shit you don't want in your feed
>didn't even think to do literally the first thing you do to shit you don't want in your feed
Jeeeesus Christ.

>>169059009
I was attempting that but it seemed far more difficult then I hoped.

>>169059220
Totally agree. Im not sure what is better nowadays.

>>169059132
>>169059179
So I looked into spelunky and found this:
http://tinysubversions.com/spelunkyGen/

This is exactly the type of things I was looking for. Thanks!

>>169059697
Felt random was necessary due to the nature of solo deving.

>upload failed : error

Fuck off, I don't know whats wrong if your error message is generic shit hiroshimoot. I've uploaded plenty of webm's fine before and the file isn't corrupt. REEEEEEEEE.

Also I made progress no one cares about but I was going to share it anyways. I debugged my first shit.

>>169060489
Go post it in the "webms for other boards" thread over on
>>>/wsg/

>>169060048
:x

>>169060489
>>169060601
I'm getting the same error and I am only trying to upload a .png of progress

>>169059030

Hey, you still here?

Is there any way I can contact you other than here?

I'm super interested helping out with your game.

>>169060647
South Island for life, woooooo!
Kidding, nice to see you.

>>169060489
Same with a jpg, seems 4chan is having issues.

>>169060489
getting this as well.

ill just type my reaction images then.

>>169060489
>>169060791
>>169060803
Textually describe your progress images for me.

>>169060867
I'm turning my shallow srpg into a mix between duelyst without cards and FFX.

>>169060092
>Assuming that I didn't already check
>Doesn't matter if you follow them. I don't. Staff stuff is posted on feeds mandatory.
Goooooodddddd.

>>169060756
I am still here, yeah.
If you'd like to contact me, feel free to reach out to me on Skype (Firgof) or Discord (Firgof) or Steam (Firgof Umbra)

>>169060867
well....there's like.....uh......some....uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>169061143
friendly reminder, there's no way to search by username in discord, post the id nerd

>>169061491
yea you can. type from: username

>>169061491
Oh, actually that gives me a good idea. I do have a server set up just for Ouroboros: The Sacrifice's development (now Metanoia) so he can just come find me on my server

>>169060756
https://discord.gg/h2GBu

>>169061143
Can't add you on Steam for some reason and Discord is asking for a 4 digit tag :(

>>169060668
>I am only trying to upload a .png of progress
>the dog ate my homework!
uh huh, sure

>>169054897
>MC can get dismembered
INNOVATION

>>169054897
brutal

>>169060867
changed sprites of MC now he looks fabulous as fuck~

>>169054897
>when he gets beaned in the back of the head by the first one

i legit heard that fucking kickball sound when it hits you in the face (you all know the one) in me head.

>>169054897
>stickman tries to escape but gets dismembered

F

tfw recap man is dead

>>169062645
you mean PONK!

How do I stop getting distracted and procrastinate when I'm at home? I literally cannot be assed to work when I can just play overwatch or watch random youtube videos.

Usually I'd just go into public and work outside or in a library/cafe, but I can't drag desktop to a public space.

>>169063303
Anon you know what a portable computer is.

>>169063303
>when I can just play overwatch or watch random youtube videos.
you fucking casual piece of shit nodev I have exactly the same problem and it's also because of overwatch and youtube.

>>169063425
I don't have one, Anon. I had a laptop like 4 years ago but it broke and I don't think its integrated graphics could even run Unity that well. I would just normally get some kind of chromebook and desktop view my desktop from a library, but I don't have the money for one so I guess that ain't happening.

>>169063303
Disconnect internet, move gaming consoles to a room that you don't work in, get something hot to drink, put on some music or podcasts or story readings, settle in for some dev

>>169063303
Realize that Overwatch isn't a good enough game to be worth your time

or realize that it is, and join the normie consumer ranks and leave the culture creation to us

>>169063530
>disconnect internet
I actually need the internet for googling solutions to problems. In either case, I'd end up just turning on the internet and playing games again. When I physically move myself outside, I make it a pain in the ass to go back home so I have more incentive to dev.

>>169063303
>overwatch
>the game with the TTK so low that you have to play like a pussy bitch and wait with your team for ults instead of actually being aggressive and having fun

unless you're looking at it as an example of how to NOT make a game

>open tumblr
>favorite dev still hasn't replied to me
Fine. I don't want you to reply to me anyway.

>>169063879
Actually I'm stealing some of the abilities for my game.

>>169064141
>dev hasn't replied to me
>they haven't posted in months

Please envision a crying anime girl next to my post.

>>169064141
I think I know who you are. I saw your message but forgot to reply. I'm a piece of shit sometimes, sorry.

>>169064141
>>169064215
>Tfw you open your tumblr and have a sole message asking if the game is still alive as you haven't checked or posted
in a year

>>169064141
I hope it's not me because I haven't logged in in a while and I'm very sorry

does this dev have a twitter too?

>>169059624
<citation needed>

>>169063358
draw your protag as an effeminate boy with medium length hair, and never say if it's a boy or a girl

>>169065251
I tried in mine but everyone said it was just boy. I am bad at this.

>>169064335
however
in shocking turn of events
it was just a shitpost

Anyone else getting a failed upload error? I want to post some progress.

>>169065659
Well, is not like we can post progress anymore

>>169065567
give the character a little bit of a hip and keep the facial features round

>>169065790
I based the face off of a girl. They are too young to have hips and stuff.

>>169065659
>it was just a shitpost
It wasn't. You disliking a post doesn't make it a shitpost.

>>169064215
>>169064435
which game

>>169065896
>They are too young to have hips and stuff.
Depends entirely on if you're going for a stylised cartoon look or realism

>>169065783
Servers are kill, probably because they were cheap as fuck to begin with, or Hiro forgot to pay them. Welcome to the era of text boards.

>>169066027
I have no idea. I am a hack. Nevermind.

I don't know how long it'll take for uploading to be fixed so I'll just post this now.
Here's the recap image: https://my.mixtape.moe/kwtdxq.png

----[ Recap Complete ]----
Last week's record was broken with a new all-time high of 46 entries. Good work. I had to do quite a bit of hacking to get it all to fit, so expect next week's theme to be much more compact. Also, I have decided to shelve the tripcode idea, so I removed those details from the readme.

-------- LINKS
Read me: pastebin.com/QA047M2e
Recap archive: dropbox.com/sh/icm5ng2zs8p24uh/AACC61OsXzCgl6-9Vdwb4sRAa
Scores archive: pastebin.com/AmFmLeAy

-------- FEEDBACK
Notice something wrong with your entry, score, or anything else? Let me know and I'll look into it.

https://youtu.be/SqFu5O-oPmU?list=PLXU8Ef7V1A0EmNcBTy5EBCLUYay8Rz5A4&t=5586

FUCK I FOUND /LIT/ GET OUT OF MY AUTISTIC FEELSDEV REDPILL TALK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>your game is dead
>your team is dead
>people still ask if project is alive
>people in this very thread are still waiting for an answer
pls stop

Finally I can post progress

>>169067061
Never.

What is dead may never die.

So, how about "Hiro jam" for the next one?
Games with no images at all. Only text and/or ascii/ansi art.

>>169066250
Nice work anon.
Pretend there's a thumbs-up image to go along with this post.

>>169067173
triggered.jpg

// Anon's 1MA Indie Gamedev Progress
// "One step closer to creating my dream game (open world DOOM 2016 clone)"
// ConsoleApplication2.cpp : Defines the entry point for the console application.
//This application will ask for 2 sets of values from the user, then display their relationship.

#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>


int main()
{
//Get two values from the user
int number1, number2;

std::cout << "Enter two number values. The relationship between those values will then be displayed.\n";
std::cin >> number1 >> number2;

//Equal
if (number1 == number2)
{
std::cout << "These values are EQUAL.";
}

//Greater than
if (number1 > number2)
{
std::cout << "number1 is greater than number2.";
}

//Less than
if (number1 < number2)
{
std::cout << "number1 is less than number2.";
}

//Not equal
if (number1 != number2)
{
std::cout << "\n\nnumber1 does not equal number2.";
}

//Pause code
int pause;
std::cin >> pause;

return 0;
}

//Thanks for reading! Good luck, fellow yesdevs!

>try to visit the agdg discord I see mentioned here a lot
>page locks up and ends up crashing my browser
How the fuck did this shit get popular?

>>169068261
discords are always circle jerks anyways

feel free to ignore them

>>169067362
I don't know, anon. I would like it, but so far not much people digged my idea of a programmer art, placeholder art jam. Maybe if it's specifically ascii, people will vote for it.

I'm not even sure, by the way, what the next jam will be. I see Cops winning the polls, yet loli fans are louder and keep on pushing their idea in the threads.

>>169068261
It's not like you're missing out anything.

>can't post screenshot
>can't link any image
Did Hiro fuck up 4chan again?

>>169068551
That's the problem with jam's polls here in my opinion. Good or interesting ideas always get buried under more visually appealing ideas, even if they have been done before, because lets face it lolijam is basically the same thing as waifujam but with flat chests.

>>169068571
>Did Hiro fuck up 4chan again?
Yup

>>169068551
>programmer art, placeholder art jam
Because nobody cares.

Don't get me wrong I'm a programmer too and I'd participate in something like that but let's be honest, people just don't care about something that doesn't look good. Even more here in agdg.
Also if you look at the previous jams, mech jam excluded they're pretty much all targeted at artists.

>>169068903
>Good or interesting ideas always get buried under more visually appealing ideas
I don't understand this, by the way. You see 2-3 people always lamenting on how they can not get into art, which makes me believe that there are even more of them, yet still visually challenging ideas keep on winning these things.

>>169069165
Pretty much what >>169069162 said. People voting are only interested on cute looking games.
Again, that's why I think we should have 2 simultaneos jams. One art oriented and one mechanics oriented.

if(a) return;
if(b){
thing
}


or


if(!a && b){
thing
}

Which is more efficient?

>>169054314
MMOs have such a huge amount of lost potential that I think most people easily start their ideaguying there. They're really the type of games that get your brains thinking how everything could be done better.

tfw keep getting upload fail when trying to post pics ;_;

t-thanks hiro

>>169069542
>>169069518
Cheer up, lads. At least it didn't happen during recap time.

>>169069652
Can I not upload low res PNG files?
I'm not sure why it's giving me this error, I just wanna get some input. ;_;

>>169069743
nobody on 4chan is currently able to upload any form of image. This means threads cannot be made either. It's been like this for hours now with no word from hiro.

>>169069743
If you scroll trough the thread, you'll see that no one can upload anything. The last post with a picture happened 3 hours ago.

I have no idea, what is happening, by the way. I've just checked /v/, and that seems to be fine.

>>169069826
Wow, what a cuck. Shoula left it with moot.
Thanks for letting me know, though.

>>169059697
From a bunch of research I've done on procgen it seems that many developers actually try to figure out a way to recognize these bad generated maps in code and discard them to make a good one instead.

Or you could make a simulator that "runs" the generated map and helps you gather data to see what works and help refine the generation algorithm.

>>169069743
Upload to some hosting site like mixtape, uguu or imgur then link it here

>>169069495
Totally agree with this. MMOs are following the same approach too close to the point most games are feeling like the same game reskined over and over. Seems it is succesfull since people keep playing them, but are they fun?
I always feel that way when trying a new one "Is exactly the same as x but looks different" and when the novelty wears off I go back to playing x.

>>169068261
Don't use the fucking browser version it sucks ass. Use the desktop client.

>>169070069
And by X you mean WoW, I guess.

>tfw single class is 300 lines and it doesn't make sense to split it up

sweating pepe.jpg

>>169070245
U wot? That's nothing.

>want to study state machines in GM
>most examples come from making a simple platformer
>make platformer, moving around by itself is too much fun to stop.

http://i.imgur.com/PL47c96.gif (fucking hiro)

send help.

>>169070332
t. yanderedev

QUICK, NO LYING!

How many hours do you average, working on indie game shit, daily?

>>169070395
Why did I laugh so much at that gif?

>>169070567
3 or 4

>>169070395
I remember when I get the physics right in my platformer, I was just happily jumping and running around for minutes. The game turned out to be shit, but at least I can tell that I've created something which at least made me happy for some time.

>>169070567
1-2 at best.

>>169070567
I'm way too sporadic on my dev habits to give a daily amount.

Maybe 50 hours a month?

>>169070567
Can dev a whole day when I'm coding.
But haven't done shit since I've entered the art phase.

>>169070136
>>169068261
What do you guys talk about in the discord?

>>169055474
It may sound stupid but I don't trust how the programmer will program things.
Basically I want another person to do the same exact thing I would do. I want him to code things just like I would.

>>169070487
I got that reference, but is there some meme about loc I'm missing?
300 is a perfectly normal number.

>>169070906
you would be surprised at the diversity of topics. its like 40% fun game mechanic discussion and 60% mindless bantz and mic shitposting. honestly i enjoy the discord AGDG community a lot but its a totally different environment.

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>>169054314
>indie mmo
>not being viable

How does it feel being unable to create something that milks the player for additional pixels?

When moot deleted the text boards he cursed us all.

Our hubris will be our undoing.

This is only the beginning.

>>169071203
>Png with jpg artifacts
What are you doing

>>169071091
I always fear that if I wouldn't be active and would just post or comment weekly, nobody would care or who me out.

Besides, watching the post counter on the browser tab is distracting enough already, I don't know if I could keep at the pase with Discord, and every room on Discord.

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reelin in the big one

>>169054314
indie mmo reporting in :~)

>>169071640
The discord moves quite fast, it's impossible to keep up with it unless you're nodeving.

Are any of you cucks on Greenlight?
When does Greenlight end?
link me your game, I might vote it, I've never voted for something in greenlight

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I made a cute, minimalist red panda out of pixels that I indent to use for a Twitter profile that I'll showcase my projects on.

What do you guys think of it?

>like the pixel art of a deviantart artist
>he announces in 2016 that he's making a game in Construct 2
>planned demo release around January 2017
>project canceled, he gave up because of coding
>another artist comments to share his pain
>they both talk about an alternative kickstarter and hope to release their game on Nintendo

First, I FUCKING KNEW IT.
Second, why the hell are you even thinking of releasing for Nintendo when you cannot even code in Construct 2?

Yet another possible game that will never see the light of the day.

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For people who have not yet voted, here is a poll to vote on the next jam:
http://poal.me/atjauf
http://poal.me/atjauf
http://poal.me/atjauf

Poll details and rules in the pic of this post.

So do we just report >>169072310 for spamming at this point or what?

>>169072310
Fuck off autist
Loli jam is next
If you don't like the theme don't enter

>>169072208
The belly area is too empty. There's also seem to be a lot of empty space of air above him.

Otherwise, cute. And come to tumblr, too, please.

>>169072391
I would if I didn't get "Our server encountered a problem while processing your request." when I try.

>>169072208
feels a little too rigid - the arms are just straight diagonal rectangles and the belly is just two flat lines
head's fine

Is "Move to a cardinally adjacent tile" proper English or am I mutilating the queen's language again like the non-native savage I am?

>>169072391
>>169072394
Stay mad, lolifags. You can't stop the encroachment of quality into this general.

>b-b-but its been d-decided that l-loli jam is n-next
Only in lolifag delusions has it been decided. If you(the lolifags) are so determined to have a sexualized little girl jam, sure, make your jam, but don't try to pass it off as something which everybody wanted.

>>169072310
Fuck off autist
Loli jam is next
If you don't like the theme don't enter

>>169072579
is this you anananon?
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/164704/is-there-one-word-for-both-horizontal-or-vertical-but-not-diagonal-adjacency#164759

>>169072925
Nope.

>>169072273
What kind of art is in demand nowadays? I need to polish up my skills and finally be able to do some work.

>>169072579
burger here, no clue what the word "cardinally" means
:^)

>>169072394
>>169072641
> "not loli" option in the top 10 with 40 votes
> current top 5 results are 4 shitty vote-manipulated joke options and COPS
> "loli" minus "not loli" is only at 59

I don't know where this "LOLI JAM IS HAPPENING GET FUCKED" thing is coming from at all.
Sure makes me think anonymous voting isn't a solution though.

Which of the games in the recap would you say are the ones that you see consistently mentioned/posted in the thread?

>>169073668
Certainly not mine.

>>169073548
>Sure makes me think anonymous voting isn't a solution though.
i say we do them on the forum section of the last jam's itch page (starting with the next jam though not the upcoming one)

Coderbros, do you participate in online contests like topcoder to keep your mind sharp? Any recommendations?

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>>169072310
>>169072601
doesnt matter how many times you poll
AGDG loves lolis cant stop clicking them

Any recommendations on where to start? Decent guides and resources?

I know C, a bit of C++, and a bit of Python. I got a game Maker license for cheap a few months ago, and last week I tried recreating Pong in unity but the physics are kinda off, and I haven't implemented scoring yet.

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Reviving this old baby. WizardMUD inspired me.

https://a.pomf.cat/etcoyi.webm

>>169073548
What about voting with progress?

>>169072579
"Move to a cardinally adjacent tile" 30% of audience understands
"Make a cardinal-direction move to an adjacent tile" 50%
"Move to a directly adjacent square" 80%
"Move to an adjacent square horizontally or vertically" 90%
"Move to a square: up, down, left or right" 95%
"Move to a touching square" ???

>>169073813
That looks sweet dude!
Can you host the demo somewhere?

>POLL ANNOUNCEMENT
You can no longer add new options. Any options that are added after this, are disqualified automatically. Pic related is the state of the poll during the writing of this post. When the poll ends, only the options that can be seen on this image are legitimate.

There are a few hours until I close this poll and initiate the next round. So, if you haven't voted, don't forget to vote and if you have voted, have a last glance on the poll since there may have appeared new options while you were gone.

http://poal.me/atjauf
http://poal.me/atjauf
http://poal.me/atjauf

More info about the poll over here:
>>169072310

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>>169073813
I absolutely adore this. Great artstyle and promising mechanics.

>>169073668
I don't know what you mean, anon. With 1-2 exceptions, I recognize all the games. Maybe if the dev is not a regular progress poster, I know he's from here.

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>>169074052
shit, I forgot to include the pic

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>>169073803
finish that pong

>>169073668
idk, was clarent in the recap?

only one i noticing about is csephon and my own

>>169074052
How can girls so little trigger someone so much

>>169074163
fuck you im taking away all my votes then

reminder that a jam that can't last on itch.io without getting everyone involved banned has no chances of succeeding

>>169074052
>>169074163
Fuck
Off

alright time for the next round of polls GO GO GO
http://poal.me/4tu2j1
http://poal.me/4tu2j1
http://poal.me/4tu2j1

>>169074387
>all my votes
So you cheated to get more and you're pissy about people shitposting in the poll?

>>169074476
because...?

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>>169074476
So don't make loli porn games?

Let's say I'm sick of tile maps and want to try something different.

For example:
- Platforms are basically lines defined by two points (so if the player's detector has an itersection with this line, he can walk on it)
- Other, bigger shapes are defined by a rectangle (AABB detection for example)
- Allow objects which have a circle/ellipse shape (depends on how I define the player's collision box or detectors, but doable)

I would just place these wherever I want them to be.

The question is, with knowing the math to how to check if the player is in touch with these objects, what would be the most efficient way to do the actual math? If I have like 30 of these per map, would iterating trough all of them be too much for the CPU? Or it depends on the rest of the logic?

>>169074651
no im mad that you cut off the best jam from the list

>>169074694
>yet another jam excludes any chance of lewd lolis participating

This is the only poll that
>can't be easily rigged
>can't be easily spammed
>doesn't let you add meme options that make the whole thing meaningless
http://poll.pollcode.com/35192779_result?v
http://poll.pollcode.com/35192779_result?v
http://poll.pollcode.com/35192779_result?v

>retarded shitposting trying to force loli jam every 2 months
>can't upload images
>all the good and notable devs either gone or hardly post at all
gay board is gay

>>169066250
>I had to do quite a bit of hacking to get it all to fit
Why not make the image longer?

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I have the most amazing progress but I can't post the pic.

>>169074725
>30 of these per map
peanuts really. if you want this to scale (multiple moving units, 3000 of colliders) look into quad tree

>>169074814
Where is your game?

>>169066250
>Blood Rush is back
cool

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Oh,just chilling with my friends.

>>169074872
that's why you posted a frog

>>169074571
How sad is your life?

>polls
i don't give a single fuck assets for my pirate game are on their way and no one can stop me

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>>169074264

Posting progress here is like throwing it into a shit filled toilet. Fuck this place.

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>>169073813
>microphone icon

>>169073813
CAST
SPELLS
BY
SHOUTING

>>169074959
https://youtu.be/izQsgE0L450

>>169075045
Post them.

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>>169074763
he is not me
However, at the current state of the poll, the only disqualified option(which missed the deadline by one minute) is the "all the games are actually a virus".

>>169074571
>shitpost poll
When the next round comes around and there are loads of meme/shitposting polls and people are not sure which poll is the correct one, I will post the legit poll in my Dinosaur Jam entry comments.

https://itch.io/jam/agdg-dinosaur-jam/rate/101530

Hopefully, this doesn't come to that.

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Finally got off my ass and did this screen. I got all the tools I need for gameplay now.

>>169075580
loli jam is the legit jam

>>169075580
>I will post the legit poll in my Dinosaur Jam entry comments.
You really need to kill yourself.

>>169075580
Holy shit you're that autist.
Stop spamming this shit and post your game if you even have one.

Lolijam sounds like cancer, but is it actually the new jam?

>>169075747
No, it's cops.

>>169075580
just fuck off we already voted on the next jam

>>169075747
Of course not. The next jam has been cops for over a week now. The autistic shitposting and spamming of irrelevant polls is worse now than it's ever been. Agdg needs to be deleted.

>>169075747
Yep.

>>169075805
>>169075836
Oh thanks m8s. Why do people sperg out over this shit? I mean even the lolijam idea sounded dumb as shit, but if that is what /agdg/ wants, I'd accept it. But it seems to be the case that everyone is shilling what they want.

>>169075809
>we already voted
who is this "we"? you and your proxies?

>>169075747
it's not, it has lost on every poll
http://poal.me/joj5q4

>>169075895
Basically loli jam won, but some autists can't accept the truth.

Case in point
>>169075898
>>169075580
>>169074571
>>169074052
>>169072310
This is the face of the anti-loli jam shitposter.

>>169075898
yes I took the time to use proxies to give loli 90 votes but i can't be assed to do the same time to your poll. you sure are smart

I don't even care anymore. I'm not going to enter jams with a "community" like this and I notice most of the jams are just packed with submissions from reddit gamedevs anyway so what's the point?

All I know is weebs need to die because this shit is pathetic.

>>169075898
>theme I like wins poll
See, this is what people want
>theme I don't like wins
PROXIES SHITPOSTERS DELUSIONAL REEEEEEE LET'S MAKE ANOTHER 10 POLLS UNTIL MY THEM WINS

>>169074890
Thanks then!

I don't plan it to be an enemy heavy game, but I'll look into quad trees nevertheless.

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>>169076007
>>169075985
>>169075898
>>169075836
>>169075809
>>169075697
>>169075660
>>169075651
>>169074796

Are these the last desperate screeches of the dying pollshitters?

>>169076105
If you weren't a retarded fetal alcohol syndrome baby you might realize how this looks to normal people.

You admit that cops won, then simultaneously claim that loli won? You're an idiot.

>>169076261
>reading comprehension

>>169076261
what the fuck are you even talking about

>>169076305
>>169076323
You retards need to be lit on fire. Jesus Christ.
Fucking wastes of oxygen.

>>169076261
>If you weren't a retarded fetal alcohol syndrome baby you might realize how this looks to normal people.
>normal people
Who? This guy?
>>169075580
>>169074052
>>169072310
Ahahahah

>>169076351
regardless of your opinion of us lighting a fire would waste oxygen you potato

>>169076381
>y-yeah but this guy
You're BOTH idiots. You should BOTH be executed.

>>169076381
>Who? This guy?
This guy seems like a saint next to the people who get buttblasted about his poll.

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Post yfw no loli jam next

>>169076480
you first

>>169076545
I don't even care anymore it was going to be another no lewd allowed jam anyway

>>169076545
But loli jam IS next.

Will the loli jam games be featured in group fanart?

>>169076935
Nobody even does the group fanart anymore

>>169076994
A shame. It would look really cute.

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What the hell do foxes look like

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>>169077172

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>>169076545
I had a game all lined up though that I already started to do stuff for.

>>169077172
Their heads are really flat, and their tails aren't that retarded. You're close!

>>169077286
What's the plan?

>>169077286
just censor it lmao

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all abord the progress train.

lightning mages v1/v2 check.
fire mages v1/v2 check.
ice mages v1/v2 check.

the trope has been completed.

>>169077352
Gonna make it anyway I guess. It was small and a good chance to make a model without needing too much animating.

>>169077349
Aren't retarded how? Aren't their tails big and poofy?

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>try to look at the source of a love2d game for learning purposes
>they compiled every single lua file into bytecode
>decompiled files look like gibberish

>>169077809
Well yeah, but there will be a narrow point at the base of their tail rather than it just being a big block that extends out of their ass.

>>169074725
It will lag.

Use Box2D anyways.

Story time.
Today I attended a lecture at my uni on game design of the Dark Souls series. It was hosted by my school's game design club. The lecturer was an undergrad of game design who just received funding for her design team company, and the lecture consisted of her going over what it means to be a student of game design and why not to write an undergrad thesis.
She then talked about her new company, the rough design of the game they are developing, and her relation to the gaming industry as having connections that stemmed from her being an ex girlfriend of one of the Blizzard coders who worked on Overwatch. The room than began asking her many questions on the few designs she showed off for her game in development, only to be met with "I'm not sure, I'm not the coder." for many of the answers. She also didn't seem to do art or music, so I was led to believe she was either the "story developer", or the "ideas gal".
Needless to say, what I learned if I were a member of this industry, my primary objective would be to shag someone who's involved in the industry and worm my way up from there.

>>169079898
you're the definition of Game Industry Cuckoldry

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>>169079898
>undergrad of game design

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>>169079898
This goes for everything in life tbqh, there's a reason why families usually stay in the same economic classes across generations.

>>169079898
Hold on. Some guys managed to get paid just to think about creating a game?

>>169081405
She stated her investor was a "guy with a bunch of money who just throws it around". Don't know how much money, but seemed like enough to get her started. Funnily enough, 2 other people on her team popped in to watch her lecture, only to ask her questions about him midway though, implying this was news to them.
She also said when she was dating the Bliz guy she got to go to E3 with him in 2015. She said she intends to take her company and set up a booth promoting her game there. She made it sound so easy, I just couldn't believe it.

>>169079898
>>169081642
What's her game?

>>169081642
>Some grill got funding from a random rich guy, while her male coworkers didn't hear about him.

I see.

>>169081642
We all know why he's throwing money at her.
Rest assured that he'll stop once he has reached his goal.

>>169072208
feels a little too rigid - the arms are just straight diagonal rectangles and the belly is just two flat lines
head's fine

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>all these upcoming GDC talks
>can't attend
>all these upcoming titles with mind-blowing visuals and trailers
>you just sit here with your Unreal mannequins because can't into visuals

>>169082084
just do flat shading, everything's raw color theory rather than shader science then

>>169073668
I don't see anyone mentioning any game very much other than when the devs themselves post.

>>169081760
I don't think they had a title. It was based around a hybrid of Shadow of the Colossus sized enemies with Deamon Souls skills, controls, and level design. So far it looks like they only had a few levels drawn out on paper and a model for a skill tree, yet (as someone pointed out) many of the skills created seemed supplementary and lacking a core focus. It was quite funny to see the club try and one by one give her advice on the project. To be genuine here, I don't know if that is gauche and presumptuous to try and help bring random ideas to a project you've seen for about 2 minutes as an outsider to someone who didn't even ask, or if it's just courteous and even if they were bad ideas still nice to entertain.
>>169081904
>>169082035
Will he though? I can see some sort of investor version of the friend zone taking place.
If you want another laugh, the lecturer was a big Souls fan, apparently part the reason she wanted to to do this hybrid design was because SotC and DeS were 2 of her first games, which her father got her into playing. Well as reference to both her game and thesis paper (which was the focus of it), she created a binder that had almost a manuscript for the Dark Souls series, including but not limited to character dialogue script, items list with flavor text, location maps, and other text information, all ripped manually because she wasn't aware all this information was available on Wikipedia.

>>169075895
It has been that way since lewdjam. Shitposters realized they can derail the threads easily with dumb or repetitive jam themes.

>>169075580
what do you have against virus jam?

>>169082808
it missed the deadline

>>169082859
fuck your deadline i added it before you posted it was closing

>>169054149
As a solo dev? No absolutely not. The time requiried to do that would be insane, by the time you finish people probably wont be even using monitors to play games anymore but more like visual head sets
At best you could do a s mall multiplayer game like magicka

>>169054314
When you come into game dev fort the first time it seems very easy, like
>wow making a cup in blender only took me 5 minutes
>wow downloading assets from the unity store was super fast this will save me tons of work
>wow writing a script to roll around a sphere only took me 10 minutes
>surely making a whole game won't take me longer than a month
and then a year later with .1% (due to massively overscoping) of incredibly messy project done they give up

>>169082325
Well even if she's not technically gifted she certainly has a real passion for it, the trouble is that needs to be focused and tempered.
Sounds like it might go down hill.

>>169082890
Do you see it in the announcement's screencap?
If not, then it didn't make it in time.

>>169083302
She really didn't seem obnoxious, I mean she came to share her studies and such, even if she got distracted by her audience and never got to the point of her discussion. It was nice of her to make the presentation. However yeah, it doesn't sound highly promising.

>>169082325
What experience do those people have with third person gameplay programming, let alone combat as elaborate as demons souls?

It all sounds like a bunch of idea guys who can do everything but actually make it and have no concept of how scope works

Does promo art count as progress?

>>169083854
No but porno art does.

>>169082084
You need an artist? Let's talk

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>POLL ANNOUNCEMENT
Okay guys, here is the next stage of the poll for choosing the jam theme.

http://poal.me/zdzws9
http://poal.me/zdzws9
http://poal.me/zdzws9

I'll also post it to this link shortly as I stated earlier.
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-dinosaur-jam/rate/101530

>>169082084

Don't be put out. You pretty much can't 1MA a game with AAA visuals unless you already have experience in that field and are letting everything else, including gameplay, go by the wayside.
Those games are made by literally hundreds of people with multiple lifetimes of combined experience.
Doesn't mean you can't make a great game with a defined artstyle but you'll need to manage your expectations.
Photo realism is pretty much out. Go look up some 3d games by 1 person or small team to get an idea of what's possible.

>>169083761
Well she said thier coder has coding for 10 years, and knows 3 languages (even though he's never had any professional experience working projects). I can't say you're wrong, but I only met her, the others never really talked, and from what I understand the faces of companies and reams like this usually don't do much actual programming.

>>169083934
Who died and made you king? Fuck off

>>169083514
That's what I meant, rather than some egotistic 'gamer girl' she sounded like a real fan who maybe didn't quite understand who making a game would work.

>>169083890
How about fanart then?

>>169083995
This is a democracy, senator.

What's the best college for a degree in making games?

>>169084091
None.

t. Someone with a game dev degree

>>169083854
>>169083890
>>169084052
Look how off topic/shitty this thread has gotten, post it man whatever it is.
Be the hero we deserve.

>>169083994
>knows 3 languages
this is an incredibly meaningless statement. If you know one C-based language you know how to get around in any of them and google the differences. I'd be concerned if THAT was his main selling point as opposed to some actual portfolio work that proves he knows how to make a third person 3D game

>>169084070
I am the senate.

>>169084091
The college of playing games.

>>169077952
>getting mad at someone protecting their work

>>169084070
Democracy already decided that Loli jam is next.
>American election
>Trump wins
>NOOOOO LE'TS HOLD ANOTHER ELECTION>
>ok
>Trump wins again
>NOOOOOOOOOOO LE'TS HOLD ANOTHER ELECTION, BUT IF YOU VOTE TRUMP YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT
Now that's democracy, right?

>>169084285
then start a poll to decide which poll counts unless you are some kind of communist

>>169084091
Probably an art school
If running a company is involved, buisness is also a good minor

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>>169084132
Yeah alright. Have some fanart.

>>169084285
>Trump wins
>People find out there was massive fraud
>Trump victory is voided
Yeah, sounds like democracy.