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Thread #2459

Staples Edition

Last thread: >>168991960

New summoning mechanic: Link Summon
Explanation: https://ygorganization.com/memberdrawing6/

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/baj95caex5si0n3/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/jpok5ejx0fvlu5k/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy-nopics.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/t/23339/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf

>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html

>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/

>Official /ygo/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Tyranno's Rage (February 25th)
●OCG Starter Deck 2017 (March 25, 2017)
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)

●TCG: Raging Tempest (February 10th)
●TCG: Fusion Enforcers (February 24th)
●TCG: Duelist Saga (March 31st)
●TCG: Structure Decks Machine Reactor & Dinosmasher’s Fury (April 13th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP
● Read the cards carefully
● Lurk and read the archives
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play
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>>169048027
first for ghostricks
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2nd Eternal Reminder that Red-Eyes is best Dragon Bro
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POSTING FOR MY BRO LIGHTNING!

GOD BLESS XYZ!
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What's the best deck to play Eidolons with that is not zoos?
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>>169048446
Cloudians
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Reminder that Eidolons are secret rare.

>>169048579
Nice, added to the collection. Keep up the good work.
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>>169047961
>Harpies are pretty masculine tonally speaking, and they can link no problem. Stick with them, but if you want a real pride parade crystal beasts are all you, and their pends will make them playable at least.
>Otherwise play Dark Magician because it has the best design currently.
Crystal Beasts are gay (not in a good way)
Dark Magician might be ok, I really love Dark Magic Curtain.

>>169047160
>Cloudians
I read a few of their effects.
I don't get it.
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>>169048704
>Eidolons
Who?
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>>169048747
Invoked
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>>169048704
>eidolons already leaked
Where's the rest of the set?
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>>169048704
>Aleister randomly a super
WHY
H
Y
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>>169048740
>I don't get it.
Your guess is as good as mine.
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>>169048704
>Elysion Invokada
Elysion confirmed girl
>Merkabah Invokada
Same for Merkabag
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>>169049036
I've said since she was revealed she was cute and my cardfu.
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>>169048704
OOOOHHHHH BABY!!!!!!!
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What are staples?
We just don't know
>?
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>>169048885
Even fuffals are secret rare, nothing is safe

https://ygorganization.com/chlamydosundewseemsamouthful/
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>>169049259
How is a "Magical Meltdown" a field or location?
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>>169049259
>Kaleido chick and Crimson Fox nowhere to be seen
Yeah i am going to accept that shit is going to pull a Superior Dora and take 2 years to come here
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>>169049259
Is there ANY deck you can build from this set with a single box? It seems like half of the cards for any given deck are Secret.
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>>169049513
Chernobyl
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>>169049563
You get a secret per pack ya know
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In the OCG
>Heavy Storm is banned
>Herpes Feather Duster at 1
Any reason for this?
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>>169049675
The odds of you pulling full playsets of multiple Secret cards of the right archetype in a single box are pretty low.
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>>169049769
you called?
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I want to get into competitive again, how much does the average tier 1 or 2 deck cost and what would be the most expensive things?
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>>169049769
sup
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>>169050109
Around $1000
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/deck/5947
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>>169050109
Dimensional Barrier is really, really good and it's like $70+ right now. But really I'd say wait until we see how Link Summoning goes before you invest in anything that might be dead soon.
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>>169050236
REad The cARD
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>>169050298
>Barian Warrior Rank 4
>$78
>topped 8 a regionals
Man Turkey is shit at Yugioh.
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>>169049259
>Magical Meltdown
>Invoked
>Omega Summon

Can they just fire the person in charge of localization already?
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>>169050109
Barrage is a >$100 3 of
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>>169050702
Still waiting for Dolls/Qlips/Hunders/Toadally Awesome tier stuff.

This isn't bad enough
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Secret Rares are a mistake
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Can someone tell me the point of Link summoning ?

Xyz= Trade 1/2 monster for An Ammo using Effect Monster

Synchro= Trade Weak Monsters For Stronger Effect Monster

Pandleum= No one use it so i have no idea

Link = ??????

im noob and just starting to learn the game
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>>169050874
Link Summoning is "if you want to keep using the other ED monsters, you have to buy the new ones, goy."
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>>169049769
Pretty simple:

Harpie's: Blow up their scales
Heavy: Blow up their scales AND your scales and reset the scales for yourself in order to combo further than you could otherwise.
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>>169050854
secret rares used to be fun back when we only had 2 per set.
I still have my laughs when I look at my Invader of Darness then to my envoys, specifically to CED
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>>169050874
It's Xyz with more generic materials and it uses monster zones for its effect instead of material ammo.

Also >>169050983
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>>169049675
>Still with this meme
>You can pull all 24 secret rares that you want with one box
Nice try konami

>>169050236
>using heavy storm on your opponets turn
>using feather duster on your own backrow
Most Ygo players really can't read or think can they?
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>>169050874
The point is to kill old decks by pushing new mandatory product. You cannot make proper use of extra deck monsters now without link monsters.
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>>169050874
Now I'm sad that we didnt get a Xyz monster that launches its xyz materials for burn damage with a cannon.
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>>169051154
>You cannot make proper use of extra deck monsters now without link monsters.
You get one Extra deck monster zone, and one is all I need.
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>>169051154
>You cannot make proper use of extra deck monsters now without link monsters.

Please explain
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I hate myself.
I hate stun.
I feel sick.
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>>169050853
>half of Pharaonic Guardian
>That Wacky Magic!
>That Wacky Alchemy!
>Magical Something
>Toadally Awesome
>Construct
>Infernoids
>Zoodiacs
>Yosenju Kama 1, 2 and 3
>the need to change names that have gratuitous english names in Japan like Predator Plants, Entermates, Entermages
>Socuteboss
>Slfer the Executive Producer

Like I said before, can we PLEASE fire/kill/replace the people in charge of localization?
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>>169051486
https://ygorganization.com/reallypendulumswereverysorry/
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I hate how they made the AI use forbidden or multiple copies of restricted cards. I just want to use the deck for a test drive, not to have to face this mess.

Seriously, Solemn Judgement and Strike in the same deck? Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>169051247
We did.

>>169051519
My nigger.
In my build I don't play the turner I use duality for the draw power. I always go back and forth on poison of the old man though. Either for 3 Demise or another mont, raigeki and warning.
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>>169052083
You want the tuner because it's searchable off humid and is a quick LP gain that you can do during your opponent's turn.
I should run demise, yeah.
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>>169052003
The Japanese.

Just remove them if it's that big of a deal. AI can play with less than 40 cards.
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>>169051689
No.
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>>169052179
That sounds good. I'll get it a test run.
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>>169052290
Okay.
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>>169051689
I just want to kill and replace the guy in charge of the banlist for some Abyss Actor faggot or something, so he can make changes and fuck up the current meta along the way
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>>169052270
You can't on mobile.
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Lick Rin's pussy!
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>>169053689
Lick Rin's glans!
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Never ever in the TCG
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>Pendulums in the ED are in fact ED monsters
My dick is so hard right now.
God, I wish I could see the face of those 3 retards that argued for 2 threads about Pendulums not being ED monsters.

Yes, I know I'm late.
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>>169053689
Flicking Rin's Ice Bell
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>>169054036
Too late. My OEM now easily use the Link mechanic and were hardly affected. The worst is me needing to get rid of an ED monster, which I use link-1s for that.
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>>169054181
Who?
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>>169054249
shut up gum gum ya dum dum
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>>169048901
Are you calling me stupid?
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>>169054547
Well, if I'm calling you stupid, then I guess I'm calling myself stupid, too.
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>>169054547
Yes?
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>>169054547
>>169054579
>>169054589
Just fuck already
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>>169054641
But I'd rather fuck you.
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Which cards can banish your own dark monster(s) on your opponent turn?
I want something on the lines of "During either player's turn, banish 1 dark monster, blah blah blah" just whatever that involved banishing a dark monster.
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>>169054961
Envoy of Chaos
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>All those people crying about how they cant use ED monsters
>mfw im Blue-eyes player
>mfw im barley effected

Finally i can crush people without some bullshit Xyz's to stand in my way !
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>No Wyrm Fusions
>No Fish Synchros
>No Pyro or Thunder Pendulums
>No Rock Tuner
>No Machine, Pyro, Rock, Plant, Thunder, Dinosaur, Sea Serpent, Reptile, Psychic or Wyrm Ritual
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Is 4chan shitting the bed with image uploads for you guys?
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>>169055140
>Thinking XYZ is hurt
See >>169051404
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>>169055140
>can't Spirit + 38
>barely affected
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>>169055067
>During the End phase
Damn, the more i try to find ways to meme kaleido chick into other decks is just getting hard. Best thing you can do is splash that chick in lack lusters because of the new ritual, you dump her, and then use BLS envoy of beginning to banish chick and you have heavy attackers BUT i am sure BLS can't OTK as hard as Lunalights can, but hey, more ways to run over CWSD and The lightning would be nice, specially since BLS gets rekt by said cards.
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>>169055317
new ritual spell*
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>>169055317
>CWSD and The lightning would be nice, specially since BLS gets rekt by said cards
Envoy of Chaos
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So with the setting and theme in Vrains we can expect more computer themed archetypes and jokes right? I expect a Binary Nibbles/Byte/Word theme deck at some point and hope its cute art.
It's been said it some thread ago, but Yu#6's rivals ace better be Encryption something to counter Decoder. Binary-Eyes Directory Encryption Dragon? Something like that.
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>>169055451
Oh, now i feel stupid, i tought The lightning's ORIGINAL ATK became 5000, still, i forgot to mention backrow, which is another thing that fucks up BLS hard
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>>169055638
Yusaku is going to get a dragon
decoder is just a temp like junk
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>>169048027
I don't play YGO since the GX days.
Best way to learn XYZ/Synchro/Pendulum?
I like that link mechanic so i want to play again
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>Be Digital Bugs
>Gimmick is giving Xyz extra effects and Defense Position shenanigans
>Can't do that too well and is very xenophobic
>Zoodiacs comes along and can do whatever Digital Bugs try to do but better while not being xenophobic
W H Y
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>>169055947
Honestly just play against CPUs on YGO. I kinda stopped playing YGO after the end of Zexal (not cause I hated Pends, just randomly) and got back in halfway through, and I found YGOPro CPU pretty helpful.
Just grind em out.
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>>169055947
>I like that link mechanic so i want to play again
you don't need to worry about the rest then
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>>169055947
Synchro: MATH, sum the levels of the tuner and the non tuner, send them to the graveyard and summon a synchro monster whose level are equal to the monsters you send (i.e. level 2 tuner + level 4 non tuner = level 6 synchro)
Xyz: Fusion on steroids, just stack two monsters of the same level (2 level 4 monsters) and summon a rank 4 Xyz, xyz materials are not considered cards on the field btw so don't think you can trigger shit like sangan
Pendulum: They are treated as spells on the pendulum zones, you can special summon as many monsters as possible if they are inbetween the scales (i.e. scales 1 to 8, you can special summon monsters whose levels are 2-7) and pendulum monsters go to the extra deck when send from the field instead of going to the graveyard.
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>>169055982
generic light bug series
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>>169055947
If you wanna learn how to Synchros, I suggest testing out Blackwings
For Xyz, I suggest Raidraptor
For Pendulums, I got nothing
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>>169056302
Ruris are shit for learning xyz since they rely almost solely on RUM. Utopia still has the purest Xyz deck.
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>>169056423
But they're not birds!
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Im more that sure that the OCG told the TCG not to make its exlclusive good anymore. I mean how else can you explain the sad excuse that are Subterrors and Spyrals, Hell why did they even bother with giving Subterrors 2 secrets and 3 Ultras?
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>GF tries to get into the game
>She asks me to lean her my computer so she can play ygo
>Whatever
>I explain her how it works and gave her some tips
>Hours later she gets mad and eventually frustrated
>"This is too complicated, I can't even survive 3 turns"
>Okay, maybe she got into ranked and got fucked by zoodiacs.
>Get worried because she probably fucked my ranking with the losses
>Everything is the same, she didn't even go online
>See her deck recipe, dark magician girl shit + buster blader support running hybrid support (sage's stone, buster blader tuners) and things like the sorcerer from the pyramid of light movie, some maldoche xyz, random synchros, dmg the dragon tamer, dark paladin and bb fusions.

Yeah, I should drop this dumb bitch.
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>>169056858
Maybe BA was a fluke and TCG is really SPY??? levels of incompetent at deck design.
Can't wait to see TCG's exclusives on Link Monsters, what delicious blunders await us.
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>>169056858
Sekrit Links meta archetypes once MACR comes
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>>169057008
Use her for an extra round of sneak peak packs
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>>169057073
there will at least be dante
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>>169057209
What's dante's plot anyway?
he went from the dark abyss to an angel?
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>>169056858
>used to joke about BAs not working at all thanks to Links
>remember that you can't ss Behemoths from hand if you have a Link since it can't be set
Nice fucking archetype Tewart
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>>169057008
>here's the rulebook and 8000+ cards, gitgud
Yeah anon I don't know, she sounds dumb.
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What will be the obligatory DARK Winged Beast-type link deck?
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Do you think D-Barrier is limited to Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz and Pendulum, or this is just a retard proof specification, and you can actually call any card type such as Link?
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>>169057385
Linkwings
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>>169057385
birbs that fly on the Data Wind
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>>169057385
B L A C K W I N G S ! ! !
Did you buy them yet?
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>>169057008
>gf takes interest in your hobby
>she chooses cards she likes and makes a bad first deck, then loses
>more worried about your rank than helping her learn and ready to dump her over not being automatically good at a complex new game

Holy shit you're a faggot. You'll be doing her a favor.
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DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS
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Was Rank 3 Spam ever viable?
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>>169056017
>>169056118
>>169056198
>>169056302
Arc V explain this with examples?
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>>169057862
Wind-up loop
Burning abyss
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>>169057862
You mean Burning Abyss?
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>>169057862
Wind-Ups
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>>169057937
So you got your two pendulum zones, and lets say, 4 monsters.
You use the 2 with the highest and lowest scales, lets say one is 2 and the other is 8, and put them in the zones. Then, you do a pendulum summon, and summon the remaining 2 monsters (lets say one was lvl4, the other, 7) from your hand at the same time. With the scales 2-8, any monster thats level 3-7 could be summoned.
When the 2 monsters you summoned are destroyed, they go to the top of the extra deck, and can be resummoned from another pendulum summon (you only get one pendulum summon per turn)
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>>169057615
>>169057384
She has been watching me for months, playing different decks like D/D/D, Nekroz, Cosmos, Blue Eyes, Maldoche, Dark Magician, Mermaid, Infernoid, Kaijus, Bujins and even Cubics irl and in tournaments/ regionals and other tournaments

She has no excuse for being shit.
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>>169057937
But i just explained that shit with examples you compelte fucking nigger

Synchros = level 2 tuner + level 4 tuner = level 6 synchro monster
Xyz = stacking two level 4 monsters
Pendulums = special summon a fuckton of monsters with levels IN BETWEEN THE SCALES as in, scales 1 to 8, you special summon level 2 to 7 monsters until you fill the field.

If you can't get this, go back to school and learn to read.
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>>169058191
Watching a game and playing a game are VERY different things
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>>169058197
>>169058171
i get the basic
just want to see examples that is why ask if ArcV explain this.
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>>169058276
No they aren't, they are players that can learnwatching tutorials for months before even touching a real card.
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question for the devpro players. is there a way i add AIs for other decks rather than use the shit ones that are automatically put in the game
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>>169058462
Do you mean the anime? I've never seen it but probably, yeah.
>>169058475
Yeah, people learn by watching tutorials.
They don't from watching people play at regionals and YCS
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>>169058562
You can copy one of your decks and paste it in the AIDecks folder, but the AI can't play random decks for shit.
Download Percy, it has more properly programmed AI decks.
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>>169058597
Dude, I literally have her at my side all the duels I play and we open packs/ boxes every month reading card effects together.
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A B C
L _ R
X Y Z

for links y/n
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>>169058905
thanks m8
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>>169057862
Pure PKs, (even though it only got 1 major top @Prague) Burning Abyss and BAPK pre-gold.

Wind-ups feel more like an XYZ vomit deck tbqh
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>>169059061
stop until official
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>>169059061
789
4_6
123
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Post cat girls
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Fuck, did I miss the pendulum memorial thread
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>>169059587
Every thread are officially Pendulum memorial threads.
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What is the apeal of Shadoll Invoked? I mean I get that Caligula has a strong effect but its pretty subpar when compared to ther monsters you can bring out.
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>>169059437
Posting images is impossible on this site rn, sorry.
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>>169059794
Winda + Caligula vs Zoo
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>>169058952
Yeah whatever faggot. Your expectations here are totally unreasonable. You cannot expect her to know the game from watching people play on a competitive level, especially because she's so uninvolved in that scenario she probably only paid partial attention. She just wanted to take part in your hobby and play together. You're a complete tool.
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>>169059216
Using keypad numeration also matches the techie theme of Yusix too. They do need to give them a name if they plan to create card effects which affect Links LZ's, "link-key #, #, and #" prints easy enough.
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Winda and merkabah with each getting +1k if needed plus back row
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Why can't I post pics ?
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>>169060324
Buy a 4chanpass to post pics goyim
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>>169060324
because you are using a trip
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>>169060324
Image server is down.
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>>169060368
I already bought a shitty Konami pass by playing this shit game, I'm not enough of a cuck to get fucked twice by gooks.
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>>169060368
If that was true I'd be able to post pics right now :^)
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>>169060451
Shut up, Iron
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Should I wait for Fusion Enforcers to star buying the Invoked stuff or wait until its actual release date? From what I heard the Field Spell is a short print.
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>>169059919
No I'm not.
Is her fault for tying to ruin my hobby and not playing properly.
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>>169060393
You're right, I should stop posting with a trip when it's not to post a meme tech; I hate posting as a tripfag.
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>>169060508
Who the fuck is Iron
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I unironically want Konami to release a BA Link Monster.
I want to see Dante survive yet another assassination attempt.
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>>169060525
Autism.
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>>169060401
I see.
Fuck gookmoot.
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>>169060620
Its doesnt even need to be a BA monster, All it needs to say is "Dark Fiend Type Monsters cannot be destroyed by card effects."
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>>169060943
Better yet
>DARK fiend type monsters cannot be banished
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fwiw post-Links you can still play Dragunity "normally" and do the meme combo with 3 cards:
Ravine Phalanx Mystle = REDMD CWSD Zephyros with banished Omega

You can probably go even further with Soul Charge, but Instant Fusion is useless now.
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>>169060943
*by your opponent's card effects
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>>169061018
>missing the point.
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>>169060620
If BA Survive and Terrortop get hit I'm building that deck, demons and literature are cool, but spending fucking fifty quid on three cards is dumb
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are there any real girls here or am I just reading gay shit?
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>>169062057
There are not girls in the internet.
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What the fuck. ygopro's ai cheats. Was playing against the herpes ai while it controlled hunting ground. my only facedowns were 3 artifacts set from my hand, and when it summoned an herp lady it destroyed hunting's ground.
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>>169062970
Reminds me of the GBA games
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>>169063535
The earlier GBA games, definitely.
>anyone who isn't Mokuba instantly knows when your set monster's DEF is higher than their monsters' ATK after a certain point
>Mokuba is only an exception because he literally doesn't seem to know what Defense Position is
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Tfw beat zoodiac at my locals with shaddoll magician girls :3c
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>>169063839
tfw beat Zoodiacs constantly with Chain Burn
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I want to play with Links now!
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>>169062970
>tfw the AI opens mind crush
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Did you ace suffer from Link monsters?
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>>169054036
I am personally pretty sad about the fact. But yeah, it sure feels good to have gotten that proven right.
They sure were persistent, trying to prove otherwise.
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>>169050874
You know how they in the anime keep yammering about how Synchros are cool because all the monsters join together and become stronger together?
Links are basically like that, but actually both thematically and mechanically realized this time.
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>>169064061
I don't like Zelda
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>>169064061
Pure TCG Lunalights is basically unaffected by this.
D/D/D is pretty dependent on cards coming out on how badly it gets hit by this, though their Domain contract is now even worse with the pendulum changes and it not affecting links. A shame that is, with Laplace and hopefully Maxwell coming I would have liked to try some janky D/D/D build with more emphasis on the main deck and pendulums.
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>>169064061
>>169062736
>>169060525
Why are there so many ESLs in these threads?
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>>169065374
>autism
>getting called an ESL for a typo
Nice general.
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>>169050702
>Meltdown
Was magic circles deemed to be too occult or something?
In spite of how it's still clearly featured in the card art?
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>We are getting a master rule that will literally make 100% of the decks focused on extra deck get forced to play link monsters to be at least playable
>The TCG exclusive archtypes are total garbage after Kozmo and Burning Abyss
>Localization teams are nothing but retarded morons alongside with stupid inconsistent censorship
>Banlists don't have a set date, they just come whenever they want, and its been nearly 7 months since the last one, and judging by the recent OCG banlist, it doesn't matter on which side of the world, they never hit the right cards
For example, limiting tenki instead of elemental triangle and keeping the rat at 3 when at 2 it would make it useless to summon another generic r4nk monster alongside with Drancia.

I am wondering, with all this kicking in the ribs the yugioh community gets by konami, how come this game hasn't crashed and burned?
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>>169066350
>limiting tenki instead
No. Fuck you. Just fuck off.
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>>169064116
I can say the exact same thing to all people saying you can Link using token and using Linked zone linked by opponent's monster.

Arguing about not-fully-elaborated rule is dumb.
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>>169066495
its what ocg did
they missed a >
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>>169060943
>wat is fiendish rhino warrior
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>>169066689
>saying you can Link using token
The wording is the exact same as synchro summoning. And as such there is nothing ambiguous about it.
If they want to disallow that they'd need to issue a specific exception. Because otherwise the circumstances are the same.
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>>169066925
>they'd need to issue a specific exception
This is pretty easy to do, you know.
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>>169066957
Yes. But there would also be no reason to do it. If they wanted Link summoning to be different from Synchro summoning. They would have worded it differently from the get go.
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>>169067119
Cry more when they ruled it otherwise.

>They would have worded it differently from the get go.
Fuck Pendulum.
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>>169066689
Some people said the rule was ambiguous.
And then there were those retards who bitched non-stop about pendulums not being extra-deck monster. They deserve to be laughed out.
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>>169067167
And then there were those retards who bitched non-stop about pendulums being extra-deck monster. They deserve to be laughed out.

You can't argue without the opposition.
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>>169067249
>They deserve to be laughed out for being right
That's not how it works.
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>>169067161
What?
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>>169067315
If you pick all possible answer of course you'll be right.
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>>169067487
Picking one answer is not picking all possible answers.
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>>169067432
CRY MORE
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>>169067556
If everyone pick different answer, of course there's one that's bound to be correct.

The right thing to do is acknowledge that the answer is still ambiguous and the act of picking answer despite of that is a vanity.
This is sure an appropriate time to post that one limited floodgate if I can upload pic.
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>>169067571
You're not making any sense.
I pointed out that the way they've worded the explanation of Link summoning is the same as that of Synchro summoning.

And then you respond by bringing up Pendulums out of nowhere and now you reply with cry moar.

Why should I be upset about Link summoning working like Synchro summoning? And why did you go "fuck Pendulum" out of nowhere? That had nothing to do with it.
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4chan is failing to upload images right now so i'll just link it.


http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/49534150.html

Performapal Card Gardna
Edge Imp Cotton Eater
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>>169067791
Ignore that part.


>I pointed out that the way they've worded the explanation of Link summoning is the same as that of Synchro summoning.
They can always ruled it differently.
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>>169067816
>Pendulums
Don't even bother translating them, they're SHIT
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>>169067816
>Pendulums
No one cares
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>>169067816
That's a pretty good scale.

>translate it weeb
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>>169067776
You make it sound as if there is nothing to base ones answers on. As if one can't interpret and or predict more accurately than others. It's not just dumb luck.

It's one huge part just plain interpretation of Konami's words. That matters for almost the entirety of it and that's because most of the things aren't even ambiguous at all.
But for other cases, there is an element of recognizing patterns from prior and other elements of the game.
And finally, to judge the above versus the possibility of Konami disregarding the patterns.

Sure people will come up with different answers. But it's not as if the ones who are proven correct had nothing to go on.
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>>169067816
>Performapals are forever
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>>169068132
You said that as if the ones who are proven wrong had nothing to go on.
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>>169067816
Dead on arrival.
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>>169064061
I'm glad that ritual beasts don't rely too much on swarming the field with fusions

bought my super rare rampengu when they were cheap as fuck. thank goodness.
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>>169067816
Entermate Card Gardna / Performapal Card Gardna
Earth Rock / Pendulum / Effect
PS8 LV3 1000/1000
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn: You can target 1 face-up Defense Position monster you control; its DEF becomes the combined original DEF of all face-up Defense Position monsters you control.
Monster Effect:
(1) This card gains DEF equal to the combined original DEF of all “Performapal” monsters you control, except this card.

Edge Imp Cotton Eater
Dark Fiend / Pendulum / Effect
PS1 LV7 2400/1600
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Fusion Monsters you control gain 300 ATK.
(2) Once per turn, if a “Frighfur” Fusion Monster is Fusion Summoned to your field: You can draw 1 card.
Monster Effect:
You can only use the monster effect of “Edge Imp Cotton Eater” once per turn.
(1) If this card is Special Summoned: You can inflict 200 damage to your opponent for each “Frightfur” monster in your Graveyard.

Truly terrifying burn damage
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>>169068357
>defense based effect
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>>169067917
Yes. But as stated. That doesn't really mean anything until they actually come with an exception that opposes the text.

Meaning that it's true until they change their minds if ever. Like all rulings. Like how the Key Beetle shenanigans actually had a precedent etc.

You don't disregard the text just on the possibility that Konami might later impose a contradicting ruling.
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>>169068357
Sekrit SHS tech for the first one
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>>169068217
I did? No I didn't. Clearly I did not. The situation remains the same. With the difference that the ones that ended up proven wrong ended being proven wrong. And thus their thinking/reasoning/logic/etc for the situation can be put into question. Since it wasn't correct after all.
Wrong answers can still end up being respectable if the reasoning was still sound.
But in the vast majority of cases, the most respectable answers are typically the ones who ended up being correct.
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>>169068442
But I get to act all high and mighty later when Konami DOES impose a contradicting ruling.

Then I get to spit on all you faggot trying to say that Link summon is similar to synchro summon when they are a different mechanic.
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he concept behind Extra Deck summons have stranded from what they originally were.

Fusion was about taking named materials and putting them together, to achieve a superior power. I think that the best example is the original Elemental Heroes from the anime. In fact how Flame Wingman and the Dark Fusion counterpart contrast each other is truly perfect. Making a fusion out of generic materials overlaps with the next concepts.

Synchro evolved from what is called Contact Fusion and came with the premise of using special monster cards that replaced Polymerization to make stronger monsters achieved thanks to the materials monsters reaching some sort of harmony between them. Among of all the extra deck kind of summons, Synchro is the only one that hasn't stranded from its path.

Xyz was the result of utilizing 2 or more monsters of specific properties to materialize a stronger monster whose power was limitted to the ammount of monsters used to summon it. Removing the need of any special card from the equation but limitting it to a certain amount of bullets per monster. Compared to synchros that didn't needed to pay any more resources, Xyz had much more powerful effects and were more generic. The concept behind "Ranking up" or increasing the rank of a Xyz monster was actually well played, both in a literal and a visual sense. But then making Xyz monsters that could be summoned with a single non-xyz monster as material just defeat the balance originally imposed on it.

Fusion always needs at least 2 cards either to use polymerization, mask change, or perform a contact fusion. Synchro always needs at least 2 cards to tune. Then why is Xyz allowed to function without at least 2 cards? Because Zoodiac were nothing more but the test ground of Link Monsters.
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>>169068597
So in spite of how everything that has been stated, treats them exactly the same.
You're betting on them going to impose a ruling contradicting it, simply because you feel like they shouldn't be the same?
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>>169068651
(Cont.)
Fusion needs a Special and generic card that allows you to perform that summon, with specialized cards added much later that satisfied specific themes' specific needs. Several Fusion themes evolved to get rid of this special card, but instead the monster needed very specific materials.

Synchro made this Special and Generic card a monster, now you could center your strategies around your monsters and the Synchro monsters define the kind of Special Monster cards you add to your deck to match your strategies. Much later Synchro monsters became less generic, asking for specific materials to compensate for the powerful effects they could carry on. Several Synchro monsters ask for SPECIFIC Special Cards mimicking Fusion needing for Polymerization, but still the advantage of using 1 card less to perform the summon remained there.

Xyz got rid of the Special cards needed for extra deck monsters, but instead focused more of especific aspects on the materials, like Synchro monsters did. Using ammo as compensation for the cost of effects, centralizing the resources in the field around themselves instead of using other monsters or cards in your hand as costs. Later they gained the ability to get even stronger by Ranking up, which isn't but placing another Xyz monster on top. There's 3 things to check on here:
1-Some RankUps are powered by Special Cards that can be traced to the concept of Polymerization and added aditional effects for your advantage.
2-Some Ranked Up monsters need specific materials on it, just removing the generic aspect of the original base form in trade for powerful effects.
3-It became easier to RankUp without needing Special Cards to do it, but you wouldn't gain any additional effect by doing it except any effect that the new monster carried with itself.
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>>169068693
I'm betting on every possible answer so I can act all high and mighty no matter which one ended up being correct.

That one is just to establish the fact that there's indeed someone betting on the fact that Link can't use token.
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>>169068747
(Cont.)
So what about Link Monsters? What are they and what do they represent in the game now?
They are just the natural outcome and the peak aspect of every other previous summoning method so far that was placed on the extra deck.

-Link Monsters can be summoned with at least 1 material, but the ammount of materials required increase based on your monster effect and power gradually increasing in utility the more materials needed to summon them, just like Zoodiacs can summon themselves with at least 1 Material.
-Link Monsters are summoned based on Specific aspects of the materials but in a more flexible way that Fusion, Synchro and Xyz Summoning.
-Link Monster don't require Special Cards to summon them, but rather you CAN use them as Special Cards to summon stronger ones. They count as their own Tuner Monsters if you want to use them like that.
-Link Monsters don't utilize ammo like Xyz Monsters, but the player benefit from having Linked monsters on the field. And if needed the player can use Linked Monsters as ammo just like Xyz use their Units for cost.

Link monsters also refine the evolution that some Fusion, Synchro and Xyz monsters had like the following under normal conditions:
-Cat Dancer(at least 2 cards)>Panther Dancer(Cat + at least 1 more card)>Leo Dancer(Panther + at least 2 more cards)
-Stardust Dragon(at least 2 cards)>Shooting Star Dragon(Stardust + At least 2 more cards)
-Cyber Dragon Nova(at least 2 cards)>Cyber Dragon Infinity(Nova)

Links act as fuel for they own evolution as long as they match the needed materials for the next step, making the summon and the materials really flexible with a really fluid and natural interaction between cards.

-Normal Monster>Link Spider>Normal Monster>Link Spider>Honeybot.

Granting access to different decks the same chance of using specific Link Monsters unrelated to their theme as long as they can interact together with the simpler Link monsters first.
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How do you guys feel about how yugioh has been handled by KoA?
Wondering what you guys takes on the positives are
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>>169048027
I don't understand why pot of greed is banned, it's retarded.
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>>169068772
Ok. Go ahead and do so if it really is important to you. But do know that almost everyone will just try to ignore you the best they can.
And try to not spam or repeat it too much.

That argument got almost nothing to stand on, and is primarily based on feelings.
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>>169068585
It's hard to judge which one is the most respectable answer when the text is that ambiguous though.

And even after all is said and done, acknowledging that the answer is ambiguous is better than picking a side.
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>>169068848
(Final)
With Link Monsters comes a layer of control in the shape of restriction of the ammount of summons we can do at the start of the game. True, players need to gain access to the Link Monsters first if they want to fill their field with other kind of Extra deck monsters for different purposes. But due to the nature of Link Monsters, the game will gradually evolve to exclude these as better and stronger Link Monsters are introduced. Link Monsters compile all the benefit of the 3 previously mentioned Extra deck monster types and they work much better when used in tandem with each other. Like having 2 Honeybots Linking each other.

Of course, the other 3 summon methods can and will adapt their playstyles to match the surge of the Link Monsters, effectively creating a new paradigm in the game. A very different way to play the game and how to use the monsters in the field will eventually happen. A better game of resource management will arise.

Pendulums outlived their usefulness, they were made to fix holes that existed on the game and by the end of their era, these holes were fixed inherently by the mechanics they were meant to fix:
-There was never a generic pendulum tuner without negative drawbacks. Other Synchro decks of its era performed better.
-There was never a real usage of pendulums as tribute for rituals or tributes for summons. And when they eventually did it, they restricted the only deck that managed to do it. There were better tribute summoning themes in its era.
-Pendulums never were used outside of themes. Lunalights wasn't a pendulum deck but the pendulum monsters only helped their own theme.
-The restriction of good generic scales for certain themes but not for others. Any Pendulum effect that restricted what you could summon but that didn't restricted another scale of the same value.

The game will change for good.
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>>169068917
>That argument got almost nothing to stand on, and is primarily based on feelings.
Game balancing.
No fucking way they'll make a Link-4 available with a single old as fuck card.
They need to sell new cards after all.
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>>169068904
>free +1 without any drawbacks

I wonder why
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>>169068357
>all “Performapal” monsters you control, except this card
>except this card
Why don't they say 'other' anymore? It's one word versus three.
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>>169068651
>>169068747
>>169068848
>>169068938
How is it possible to write that many but tell nothing?

It can be compiled with
>Pendulum is shit
>Link is good and will change the game for good
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>>169068927
Some things are more or less ambiguous than others though. And that matters a lot.

Like say this silly Links as Synchro debate. Basically not ambiguous at all. The material and explanation provided is a closed circle. And it makes sense. Yes Konami could potentially change their minds, but that would mean they'd had to force open the closed circle to change it.

And then we have something like the little "Does forward arrows give the opponent EMZs?". Which is barely ambiguous but has some ambiguity.
The material and text provided fully supports one case. None of the text contradicts or opposes said case. But there is an unknown factor and element in this scenario due to an unprecedented factor. That introduces a certain level of ambiguity simply due to not being a fully closed circle.

Then of course we had the whole Pendulums as Extra Deck monsters debate. This has by far been the most ambiguous debate. And I'd like to argue that it was very ambiguous. With patterns and precedents that could be argued to support either case. Of course people had their own arguments for why their view had more weight to it than opposing views, and some obviously ended up being more right than others. But no matter if you got this one right or not, it was no doubt the most ambiguous debate.

But point being. Ambiguity doesn't render logic and reason invalid. The people who got it right reached their answers through reasoning. Of course, that is true for those that got it wrong too, but clearly the people who got it right had a more sound reasoning their argument. They were right after all.
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>>169066350
b/c people stay for the degeneracy rather than playing what they like
and the actual hopefuls generally only come back to play things they like, try to make it good, and leave again when they fail unless they find something new they like

>>169068938
really all this means is links will be used with xyz for more toolboxing but whats more is when you go first you'll be able to shut your opponent out more easily by fucking their links

this change is dumb
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>>169069378
Because that's the way it's written in moonrune?
I don't know shit about moonrune though.
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>>169069009
To be fair. They allowed people to make 6 mat Xyz summons with single cards with the introduction of Zoodiacs.
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>>169069747
Are you saying that they want to shill new cards rather than old cards?
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>>169069747
In the case of Scapegoat, or any tokens for that matter.
Link Spider so far is the only one that can be summoned using normal monsters. So you wouldn't even be able to make a Link-4.
And to summon a Link-3 you'd need to summon 3 Link Spiders in a row and then consume all of them for the Link-3. Meaning you would have dedicated 4 extra deck spaces for one Link-3.
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>>169068848
I like that you mentioned lunalight monsters but, kaleido chick just made summoning Leo Dancer a -1.

You forgot in your entire pasta about + and - ratios when it comes to summoning shit. And it all boils down that Fusions ALWAYS go into -1 but they have alternative methods to make said -1 not be a big loss like dedicated archtype Miracle fusions or super recyling bullshit or things that activate when they're fusioned or are just there in the graveyard like
-Lunalights having Black sheep bouncing back another lunalight while also having Kaleido chick bouncing polymerization back, and as situational as it seems, Crimson Fox putting a monster into 0 ATK.
-Fluffals: fucking everything they do is "when we get fused, we go into mad pluses" specially penguin who gives you 2 draws.
-Metalfoes: the fusion card that shuffles back and gives you a draw.
and on the same verge
-Invoker: Eidolon summoning magic which can shuffle itself back and give you aliester back to the hand for that +1000 ATK)

You see, what Link summoning and those rules did was to make you run into minuses to at least do jackshit and is why people are complaining, because you either play with link monsters or you can't fucking play at all. You're going to waste something like summoning two baobaboons for missus radiant just to proceed with the chinese yiffing featuring that scalie mustard peas.

TL;DR: The only thing that didn't cared about this new bullshit are the zoodiacs and the chances of banning the rat is about as high as putting Dante's name in the banlist.
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>>169070027
Change 2 token into Radiant and change 2 token into 2 Link Spiders.
There. Link-4.

And if Reaper teach you something, it's that ED space doesn't mean shit.
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>>169069436
I just wanted to drop some observations regarding Link Monsters and how it was just a natural step for the game to include them. It was also obvious that konami wanted to change the way the game was played but didn't knew how with the obsolete rules from the past.
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Reminder that Xyz was a mistake and that Links will be even worse.
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>>169070083
I clearly mentioned that these examples are based on the basic way you could pull these monsters out. I also mentioned how themes adapted themselves to move the resources in smarter ways. I myself play Lunalights and know the magic and wonders that Kaleido represents.
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>tmw watched a video with Zarc against random anime duelists
>tmw the video creator had to give them 40000 lp as well as drawing 2 every turn for Zarc to even touch Don thousand, Z-One, or Yusei
>Tmw they still bodied him in their first turns and he only stayed alive because of the 40000.
>tmw anime Yuma would body him as well because of anime Beyond the Hope

Zarc a shit
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>>169070187
>>169070187
no shit but what can we do? bitching at komoney will solve nothing
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>>169070126
Oh right. It's only Decode Talker that specified effect monsters.
For a moment I thought that Honeybot and Radiant did too. Which is silly since I was already aware of how Radiant works with Gofu as well as the card in question, Scapegoat.
I just got Decode Talker on my mind for a moment there.

Still though. I see nothing super strange about it. Perhaps I am just jaded but Konami does crazy things all the time.
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>>169070316
link
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>>169068357
A little bit too late?
Fluffal pendulums would have been great before. But seeing Pendulums after Links is just kind of sad.
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Zarc vs Don Thousand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvxzVq-8Xc

Zarc vs Yusei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVrXVNaVLto&t=484s

Zarc vs Zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b02-VTBeY54&t=1s


he manages to win every duel, but shit does he get bodied through each win
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>>169070083
>penguin who gives you 2 draws.
Nitpicking but it isn't 2 draws, it's 2 draws then discard 1.
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>>169070343
It makes them aware of something they neglected for too long.
So far, only scapegoat is abusable, since Radiant exist, but it won't stay like that once other Link monster revealed.

Either they need to know exactly how good the old token mechanic is, and make the new card better than that, or they just said fuck it and makes the token isn't compatible with the new mechanic at all.
And considering "tribute the rat" the former doesn't sounds plausible for Konami.

There's also the chance that Konami is not aware of token at all, but they will be once people start asking about it.
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>>169070819
Chances are they won't care. And then just ban Scapegoat or whatever if they do end up caring.
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>>169071169
If they don't care, they will just say that you can't though, when asked about whether you can use token to link summon.
Easy and no long lasting consequence.
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>>169071643
Denying something would imply that they cared.
Not that Konami tend to make any sense either way.
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UNBAN ME
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>>169071627
hells this
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>>169072039
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>>169072040
White Aura Dolphin
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>>169072039
#ReleaseReleaser
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Is it possible to build a decent deck without using pendulum cards? because i'm too much of an oldfag to bother using them.
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>>169072039
#UnchainTheChain
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>>169072348
yes
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>>169072348
you dont really need them

>synchro
some shit are tuners and you need them to make synchs but you dont need synchs
>xyz
easy to make and generally helpful but not needed
>pend
can help but also not needed
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>>169070626
That reminds me.
Anyone have that nicovid where zarc get BTFO by Yugi, Darkness, Don Thousand, and other last boss?
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>>169072673
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30332645
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>>169072823
Thanks anon.

>Don Thousand won by summoning 2 Numerronia
That was entertaining.
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>tfw playing Kaiju Shinobirds against Zoodiac
I thought Shinobirds were supposed to be garbage.
The amount of salt I've been generating with the baron is fucking comedic.
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>proper summon from ED through summoning mechanic e.g. Pendulum Summon Pendulum monster from ED, Fusion Summon Fusion monster
>proper summon from ED using the summoning procedure listed on the card e.g. Beachballkin, Contact Fusion
>proper summon from ED using a card's effect e.g. Majester, Mithrilium
>improper summon from ED using a card's effect e.g. Bahamut and Goyo Defender
The ruling made it clear that the first one needs to go to EMZ.
I hope there's some info regarding the other three, but I guess they need to go to EMZ until further notice.

Then there's the gray zone of Ultimaya summoning a properly summoned Fast Dragon from face-up in ED.
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ST17-JP021 サイバネット・ユニバース Cybenet Universe
Field Spell Card
(1) Link Monsters you control gain 300 ATK.
(2) Once per turn: You can target 1 monster in either player’s Graveyard; shuffle it into the Deck.
(3) If this card on the field is destroyed by a card effect: Send all monsters in the Extra Monster Zone to the Graveyard.
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Field Spell Card
(1) Link Monsters you control gain 300 ATK.
(2) Once per turn: You can target 1 monster in either player’s Graveyard; shuffle it into the Deck.
(3) If this card on the field is destroyed by a card effect: Send all monsters in the Extra Monster Zone to the Graveyard.

Note: Very carefully, this card cannot be fetched by Cyber Dragon Core.
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>>169074013
>>169074032
>(3) If this card on the field is destroyed by a card effect: Send all monsters in the Extra Monster Zone to the Graveyard.
There's only 2 EMZ, right?
I don't see why this is useful, but I guess you can set it to opponent's field using Revolving and destroy it to kill their EMZ quickly.

The (1) effect is also meh.
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>>169073745
Like 90% of Fusions don't have any way to summon themselves and need to be summoned by a another cards card effect e.g. Polymerization.

Just because Fusion have that as mechanic, doesn't mean it's not a summon from a card effect. Thus, so that there's no contradiction, it's safe to assume that a Bahamut Shark summoned Toad still needs to be placed on the EMZ or Linked Zone.
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>>169048027

When you have two of these in attack position, then your opponent can literally never attack?
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>>169074196
Yes, back then loops like that were more prevalent.
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>>169074176
Synchro also have them with Beachballkin and Ultimaya.
Take note that the summon isn't treated as synchro nor fusion summon and sending the material to grave/tributing the material/shuffle the material to deck is treated as a cost.
Heck, it's not a summon from a card effect, it's a summon from a summoning procedure, just like Kaiju.

And if you need to place Toad from Bahamut to EMZ, that would kill Goyo Defender completely.
Not impossible as in draw 5 pieces of exodia in your first turn, but impossible as in Crop Circle damage effect.
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>>169074176
>>169074498
Also they also said
>For all Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Pendulum Monsters as well, when Summoning them from the Extra Deck, they will normally be Special Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone.
>they will normally be Special Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone.
>normally
Either it references the Linked zone, or maybe there's other not-normal way to summon them to MMZ from ED.
There's still room for clarification.
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>summon Gaiasaber
>move him down to MMZ with Castle Link
>you know have 2 Linked Zones and empty EMZ
I guess a play like this is the reason they didn't make Castle Link a mechanic?
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>>169074776
Do Link monster outside of EMZ can still use their Linked zone as EMZ?
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>>169074882
Yes? That's why monsters like Honeybot exists
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>>169075029
Damn, it's hard to say it.
Do we know that Link monster that is not directly nor indirectly linked to EMZ can still use their Linked zone as EMZ?

The V-Jump spoiler only provides example where the Link monster is directly connected to the Link monster in the EMZ.
Though the ruling wording is a bit relaxed than that.

And if you do can use Link monster like that, that means Superior Poly just becomes a bit better.
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>>169073054
Fucking Yugi with that Infinite Atk
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>>169075225
>Link monster that is not directly nor indirectly linked to EMZ can still use their Linked zone as EMZ?
Looking at the text on the JP website, it doesn't mention anything about the MMZ Link monster needing to be Linked to EMZ, so I'm assuming they still can. I assume the reason the VJump pic is pictured like that is to prevent people from being confused and thinking they can summon a Link Monster (from the Extra Deck) to MMZ normally.
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Did Konami ever explain why they decided to make Field Spells local rather than global?

I always thought it went against the point of field spells.
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>>169075539
Reviving Link gonna be handy as fuck, huh?
When you Link climb, you can also revive said Link from grave and place it wherever to open "EMZ".
They don't even care if their effect is negated since Link marker should work just like Pendulum scale.
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>>169075669
Some recent field spell still maintain their global effect.
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>>169075669
We were in a Field Spell domination meta, so that's probably why.
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>>169075669
If by global, you mean it doesn't self-destruct, then it's probably because they want to raise field spell usage by making more decks be more reliant on field, and if they did that, then of course it means that field spells shouldn't die so easily.

If you mean both players doesn't benefit from the field spell, then that's just because of the effects limiting it to the controller. For example Dueltainment was made after the rule, but both players can still benefit from the effect.
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>>169051519
What the fuck is that last trap meant to be?
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Die something happen to Zoodiac Barrage? It lost two thirds of it's value.
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>>169076781
Links and bullshit new rules. Buying Zoodiacs is suicide just like playing MtG T2.
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>CotH, Oasis
>RAM Clouder
>Book of Life
>Oviraptor, Black Fang (only if Link with the particular type exist)
Anything else that can be used to revive Link?
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>>169076952
Reborn the Monster
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>>169076952
Wait, you can't use Oasis.
Damn, that's way less than I thought.
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>>169076924
What new rule?
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>>169076924
But Zoos are fine post-Link.
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>>169077001
Not reliable enough.
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>>169076952
Sekrit burgerfrog tech
>Oviraptor
How is this reviving your links?
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>>169077098
TCG players are idiots.
They think the bullshit rule is there to hit Zood.
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>>169077182
Only if dinosaur-type Link exist.
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>>169077275
Read carefully the cards.
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>>169077275
did you read Oviraptor?
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>>169077306
>>169077320
O-oh.
DAMNIT DEFENSE POSITION.
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did the Pendulumfags in the Konami offices design Amazing Pendulum before the rule change in order to counter-act the changes?
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>>169076952
>Missus, Spider, and Gaiasaber is EARTH
>only Gaiasaber is good enough to summon in MMZ, but since you (currently) can't link using him, he's rarely in grave
Damn.
At least filling the grave with 3 Link Spider is easy enough.
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>>169077501
>Crystron is in the same set and they got hit pretty badly
Goddamn that Pendulumfags don't want to share information.
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60 card Lawnmowing Phantom Knight Zoodiac Twilightsworn w/ Link monsters new meta
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>>169068357
WEW read that as Edge Imp Cotton Picker
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>>169066350
nostalgia is the only real answer to this.

There is a reason people constantly quit yugioh but get sucked back in for no actual reason.
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Is this good?
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So, I'm new to Yugioh and I'm looking to buy a Skull Servant deck (I know it's not meta, I just like it) and was wondering what the best way is to buy a full deck.
I don't really want to pay 15 different shipping fees if avoidable.
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>>169079072
Buy the one I'm selling :3
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>>169079072
Buy singles from a card site like TCGplayer.
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>>169079156
Where you selling?

>>169079230
I live in Europe and if I buy from Cardmarket most of the costs come from shipping
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>>169079558
Well I'm just trying to offload it at locals, it's 2x Wightmare and 3x every other SS card (one of the SSs is French).
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>>169079558
Then search for a site based in your country.
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I'm gonna fusion summon my skeletal mammoth with your blue eyes ultimate dragon and you can't stop me
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>>169066350
some players are leaving but the new rules bringed back some nostagagshitters desu
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>>169080676
Imagine those players when I use links to summon 4 extra deck monsters after pendulum summoning and then OTK them

Ah!

I can already imagine the taste of their tears and their salt
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>>169069529
A G R E E D
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>>169080954
>pendulum summoning
is dead anon
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yo if a pendulum is destroyed while macro is on the field what happens
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>>169081815
You need to adapt, anon.
But of course you can't.
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>>169082091
Banished.
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>>169082302
thanc
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>>169057008
>>169058191
>>169058475
>>169058952
You're a fucking moron.
>>169060525
You're literally autistic.
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>>169082091
Your boipussy gets rekt you fuckboi.
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>>169082375
But that's the same person!
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>>169082570
Yes, he deserved both insults.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46ZzijpmWc
The update is looking nifty. The phase thing needs fixing.
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so can I return a maindeck monster like BEWD with Interdimensional Matter Transporter to the EMZ?
can I take control of an opponent BEWD and place him to my own EMZ?
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>>169082773
It's not an update, it's him editing the video so that the monster zone is imposed into the middle. Like, look at the bottom left and you'll see it.
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>>169082826
http://www.yugioh-card.com/japan/howto/new_master_rule/
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>>169082932
interdimensional matter transporter doesn't special summon
although I believe the answer is that they have to be placed into the MMZ, better safe than sorry
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>>169083087
>I believe
Anon, please.
Every single thing about the new rule should be clearly addressed there.
Even regarding things that doesn't special summon like Paradox Fusion or about changing ownership like Mind Control.
You should be able to deduce every single thing you can think of about the new rule and its interaction there.
You don't need anything else, just that page should be enough.
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ST17-JP021 サイバネット・ユニバース Cybenet Universe
Field Spell Card
(1) Link Monsters you control gain 300 ATK.
(2) Once per turn: You can target 1 monster in either player’s Graveyard; shuffle it into the Deck.
(3) If this card on the field is destroyed by a card effect: Send all monsters in the Extra Monster Zone to the Graveyard.

Note: Very carefully, this card cannot be fetched by Cyber Dragon Core.
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>>169082924
ok didn't notice that.
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>>169083397
it's konami, you can't be sure enough
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>>169083465
>I'm this retarded.
ftfy
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>>169083425
>>169074013
>>169074032
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>>169083564
>CybeNet
Oooh. that's why ctrl F didn't pull up anything
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I'd like to apologise for shitposting about Senet Summon being the new mechanic since meme magic made it real.
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>>169048272
are gladiators back?

>>169048334
>dark magican 2500atk 7 stars
>red eyes 2400 atk 7 Stars
>fucking Skull 2500 atk 6 stars

what were they even thinking?
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I know this is a dumb question but Im still going to ask it
If I detach from Gear Gigant X can I add the card he just detached?
I know in terms of graveyard adding like this, if you have 3 monsters in grave and use emeral (the 3 monsters is a prerequisite) that you can detach and add the card that was detached and 2 others, but does GGX have a prerequisite in the grave? Obviously I have more targets in the deck but does there need to be another machine to add back the one I detached from Giant?
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>>169083425
So people are going to main Castle Link over this right?
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>>169048446
Wind Witches and Artifacts
Or more commonly know as AWWE (Artifact Wind Witch Eidolon)
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>>169083810
Tech one of these and use Revolving.
Now you can change your MST into non-target destruction.
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>>169083949
>Eidolon
who?
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>>169084056
IWWA
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>>169082210
yeah, will be like that for a year
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>>169084056
One of the archetypes from the Pre-Link era.
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>>169083949
>>169084276
>Wind Witch
who?
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>>169083959
This sounds like a horrible minus.
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>>169084518
Are you saying a Raigeki Break that doesn't need you to discard a card a minus too?
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>>169084336
IWA
short for Iwata
Rest in Spaghetti never forgetti
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>>169084596
Well you have revolving/terraforming or the card itself, and then MST for one card.
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Am I the only person who uses legacy of the duelist? :(
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>>169084995
I do too!!!
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>>169084851
Use Revolving/Terra to fetch Castle Link, dumdum.
Don't ever draw it.
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>>169082773
BUY LINKS
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Guys I'm trying to build my collection back up. What tins and Gold packs should I buy? You know things to get reprints and staples from.
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>>169085131
I thought we were talking about Cybenet.

Because that's what you're using to get your non-targeting removal.
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>>169085738
Use Revolving to gives Cybenet to your opponent.
C'mon, have you ever read Revolving?
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>>169085652
Just buy other people's collections.
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>>169082773
>agents
>super heavy samurais
>cloudians

is this the new meta?
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>link monsters can't be in defence position so they can't be summoned by effects that would put them in defence

What wise guy came up with this mechanic?
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>>169086017
Like Oasis and Surface?
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>>169086017
me, you can thank me for it
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>>169086017
>can't even use Superior Poly grave effect
Not even Yuri can transcend this shit.
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>>169085858
<superheavy
ok at least i can try something
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>>169085786
Wow, I'm dumb.
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I draw!
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>>169088224
>chains 3 gift cards and then bad reaction to simochi
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>>169088224
MONSUTA KAADO
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>>169082375
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>>169088419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9NBvsmQ2Ik
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I was ready to give up on the game but now with the new rulings and the upcoming dino structure i got some hype for the game back, but i still have my doubts. If i fully commit this time, will it be worth it? because im sick and tired of losing to almost everyone because they have the latest broken shit or whatnot, its also worth noting that im a poorfag and im not very fond of following the meta but dont jump into conclusions, i play normal decks.
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>>169089183
Card games will always be pay to win, that's not due to bad game design, that's how their business model works.
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>>169089183
you'll just get wrecked by the new meta that pops up
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>>169089570
Im well aware, but do i have a chance if i keep going? For example i was thinking of getting the DDD structure to enhance my current DDDeck but then i think about all the shit i've been through before and how Zoodiacs exist and really hits my moral, i would also build Darklords but they are expensive for me so thats a no for now. It sucks ass whenever i got to locals and get my ass handed to me because they can affort all this stuff and i cant. My only hope is the new rulings making a difference and bring some balance to the game.
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>>169089886
Anon, everyone that cares for theor decks are fiding ways to adapt.

DDDs - fiend links are a matter of time. When they arrive it's triple Night Howl. Also, reviver monsters go anywhere, so they can use that for theor advantage considering Ghenghis and Alexander do most of their combos reviving stuff. Nothing is stopping them from using Links and then use Necro Slime and Pact with Swamp to re-make the field. Also, they have pendulums

Orica Magicians - shifting the strategy for Zarc seems to have been their way. Also, they are able to use links to get rid of ED monsters on the field to summon more. As a plus, using Startime for link summon sends it and the remainder material to the grave if the player desperately needs it there. Oafdragon helps bypass new restrictions and Amazing Pendulum exists.

Zoodiacs - Rat, duh

Also, bunch of decks have the possibility of reviving now
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>>169089886
>bring some balance to the game.
Link isn't affected at all by the new rule and can ED spam even harder than Xyz ever will.

If by balance, you mean the new decks all have significant advantage against all the old deck, then yeah.
But I guess it's not something new, huh?
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>>169089886
>bring some balance to the game.

I want this meme to end
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I honestly think the people saying this is balanced are the ones who just hate the other summoning extra deck methods. Even if there were no extra deck restrictions Links would be up there with Xyz in spammage because they are fucking easy to make. All this bullshit did was make it so that any and every deck needs Links to function just like they need Xyz.
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>>169091603
>Even if there were no extra deck restrictions Links would be up there with Links in spammage
ftfy
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>>169090936
Xyz wasn't so bad before Konami started vomiting answers to everything meta in form of rank 4 monsters.
Links are having an even slower start than xyz, their 2 mat monsters are mediocre and do nothing but allow the summon of the ED monsters that really matter, and the 3 mat aren't much better.
If Konami don't go full retard again Links can be balanced for 3 years or so.
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is Red-Eyes viable now?
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>>169090715
>fiend links are a matter of time
Reminder that there's no Fish Synchro, no Thunder Pendulum, no Pyro Pendulum, and the only Aqua Synchro was released 5 year after 5Ds.
And did I mention that their field of CWSD+Titanic+Siegfried is impossible without Link?

>Orica Magician
You don't seem to understand their playstyle.
Getting rid of ED monster on field? If you can put them on the field, their job is done.
Putting the material in grave? Heck no they never have problem doing that.
Oafdragon and Amazing Pendulum bypass new restriction? They already use it for something else that's far better than bypass the rule. Like fetching Tune Magician.
Changing the strategy to Zarc? You can't even search the pieces efficiently.
Did I mention that even without Link they aren't even t1?

>Also, bunch of decks have the possibility of reviving now
Yeah, sure.
Until the new Link.dek comes and kill them all.
Link have a fucking unfair advantage with the new rules.
Kinda reminds you of Rat, huh?
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Cards that are now impossible to summon
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>>169076392
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>>169091905
>If Konami don't go full retard again Links can be balanced for 3 years or so.
We know that's not gonna happen, remember when xyz monsters used to be nothing but beaters unless they had overlay units, or worse, destroyed themselves if they ran out of overlay units? Now they get effects upon summoning, they have effects that have no need for overlay units and if they run out of overlay units nothing happens to them, they just sit there.
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>all the Xyz monsters that say "can't be used for Synchro" can be used for Links
Excellent.
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>>169090715
Im not conserned about DDDs since they still get massive support so as you said, Link DDDs are inevtable.

>>169090936
>If by balance, you mean the new decks all have significant advantage against all the old deck, then yeah.

Thats what i mean. personally i wouldnt mind if the game slows down a little and make duels longer because duels lasting a couple of turns is retarded
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>>169091905
Let's see the first few Xyz monster.
>attack negator
>stat increase
>burn
Wow.

Meanwhile, Link already have negator and protector.
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>>169092217
That's why I said 3 years or so.
Xyz didn't have those effects until nearly the end of Zexal.

> if they run out of overlay units nothing happens to them, they just sit there.
That is how it always worked, don't you dare cherry pick exceptions.
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>>169092470
the busted early xyz were tour guide's fault:
Zenmaines
Leviathan/Acid Golem
Leviair

they were completely gamebreaking at the time
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>>169092448
You'll only last a couple of turn against the newest Link™
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>>169092470
The negator requires real monsters as cost, monsters that you have on the field, not the materials used to summon it.

It's also a 3 mat monster.
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Just make Extra Deck summons once per turn rule and its not broken anymore.

Konami is pathetic, its like they not even play the card game.
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>>169092704
Still better than attack negation.
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As a new player, why the fuck would I start buying cards now with all the link summoning stuff coming soon?
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>>169092514
>>169092514
Cool, so 3 years later 2019, the extra deck will just be black and blue, fusion will be pet deck tier and synchro and pendulum will be drinking themselves to death with rituals. That's super. Sounds like perfectly balanced
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>>169092715
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how do I even win going second against zoodiac?
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>>169082773
I have said it before. Shitting on the previous cards isn't cool.
But damn, Links look fun. And this is just with a few of them.
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>>169092873
Well, you can buy the stuff that will be useful for Links before it gets expensive.
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>>169092610
I've seen Decode Talker, he looks pretty good i admit but with proper actions he is way more manageable compared to other cards.
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>>169092873
Exactly, anon.
Now give me all your Barrage.
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>>169092873
You shouldn't. Just play online until a good link archetype is released in a VRAINS pack. Zoos shouldn't be to affected by the link mechanic, but I have a feeling that TCG is gonna gut them before links come out for a few extra shekels.
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>>169092963
Decode is one of the first few Link, and he's already like that.
Apparently, he's not even the protag's ace.
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>>169092940
you don't obviously.
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>>169092940
You stop them turn 1 with a hand trap.
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>>169092940
Kaiju the spell negator
Dark hole/raigeki
Do it again after they chain MBAS
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>>169092448
No one knows of Link DDD, but fiend seems possible. The reason they need fiend is due to Night Howl
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>you need Links to start your ED toolbox, rather than dipping in for something like Castel or za Raiotning as outs
>so good Link monsters can't be as much of a toolbox like xyz, they need to have some standing value on their own
>like negators or disruption like Drancia
>out first 3 Link is a targetting neg already
How long do you think it'll take to get an omni negator Link, boyz?
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>>169092147
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>>169092514
Utopia, Acid Golem, Leviathan
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Played against Red Eyes. From the way this thread talked about it, I assumed that they where complete and utter shit. Instead I ran into an First Turn Kill where I didn´t even got to play.

Please explain to me what the fuck is wrong with that deck.
>>
>Link Slayer was added
>doesn't have a type yet
How difficult can throwing in a new type even be?
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>>169092147
>Fish Synchro, no Thunder Pendulum, no Pyro Pendulum, and the only Aqua Synchro
>as relevant as Fiends
Do you doubt Warrior Links too?
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>>169093996
It's less that it's tough and more that it's bothersome.
You can't add new types with the soft updates. You need to issue an archive download for a full system patch.

Which is of course possible. But they probably want to do that along side the changes too. To avoid issuing an entirely new version ygopro just to add Cybers.
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>>169094031
It's now Cyverse era, anon.
Every other type doesn't exist.
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huh, if you can use pendulum for links that means you can use tokens

>>169093996
its probably a piece of underlying code meaning they need to update the entire program rather than adding a script for a card, and updating the entire program for one card is kinda pointless
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>>169093996
>>Link Slayer
>Doesn't Slay Links
I don't get the theme of this guy.
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>>169092873
>As a new player, why the fuck would I start buying cards now with all the link summoning stuff coming soon?
First ask yourself, Why the fuck would i waste my money on childrens card games? Just play the Vidya if you want Yugioh
>>
how do we make crystrons good?
>>
>>169094436
>Monster Reborn
We're never getting it back in the TCG are we?
>>
>Decide to try out darklords since I never played em
>Supberbia misses the timing if you use Altar through a darklord's effect

Just fuck my shit right up senpai
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>>169093864
Because they can't do that consistently for shit.
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>>169094765
So I just ran into an situation where my opponent was lucky at the first turn? Damn.
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>>169094412
>True Dracoslayer
>doesn't slay True Draco and instead ally with them
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>>169094470
Symphonics & Revival

>You run 3 recycler and can fit in mathematician so Drumss in multiples means EZ nat beast, 2 is an important level for you anyway since it means 5's like accel and ametrix

>Iron Call & Magnet Reverse summon either the synchros or any of the tuners and shit

idk, maybe some good water support? Lemuria seems interesting and can probably do bahamut plays somehow like rion and quon
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>>169095106
>Summon Bahrstos, nuke it, summon any yz not named bixi

Fund It
>>
How would you redesign Link Summoning to make the Linked Zones impactful but without genociding pet decks like they do currently?
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>>169095904
3 link zones, and occupied EMZ "occupies" the space behind it as well if it's not a Link monster
>>
>they're going to have to redesign entire AIs because of the new rules
oh wow
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>>169094412
>Link Slayer
>Castle Link
Do you think we'll ever get CODU just like DUEA and GENF?
TDGS when?
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>>169095904
Monsters in linked zones gain different effects depending on the linked monster itself. at first it'll start off simple like, spellcasters in this monster's linked zones cannot be targeted by the opponent's spells and traps, then it'll get dicey the more links a link monster requires like monsters in this monster's linked zones cannot be affected by your opponent's cards. Linked monsters with effects like that should require specific material like they must all be DARK, or they must all be spellcasters or they must all be pendulum monsters.
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There was just something so comfy about being on dueling network compared to ygopro. I miss it.
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>>169096692
>jajaja u wait for admin
>comfy
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>>169096692
DN's deckbuilder was less awful to use.
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>>169092269
r4 golden age never ends
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>>169096692
You mean arguing with retards over rulings and getting pissed because admins took half an hour to appear?
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>>169096404
better let the IA cheat desu
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>>169097445
>Misclick
>Lose
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>>169068938
>Link-only era is somewhat better than all Summoning methods being playable
Stop shilling
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>>169097595
>Misclick
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>>169097445
I miss those MST negate calls
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>>169097595
It's your fault.
>>
Pendulum got a bullet to the back of the head
Synchro got their legs chopped off and buried at sea
Fusion got a severe beating and is now in hiding
Xyz got a mild threat while a stripper was sucking their dick under the table
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>>169064061
>Raviel
N-no. but he still is pretty mediocre as a boss monster. I still love my ace
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>>169097920
>Synchro got their legs chopped off and buried at sea
It has been like this since 2011 though.
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>tfw they stopped the fun
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>>169097995
Nope, from 2011 they had broken shins, 2017 just finished the job.
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>>169097920
Actually Synchro got better out of the link change compared to xyz.

Synchro can synchro summon using the synchro you already have on the field. Xyz needs to remove the xyz they already have to summon a new xyz, unless they are playing RUM xyz.
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>>169052083
RANK
TEN
TRAIN
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>>169098547
ZA RAITONINGU
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>>169098547
Sure thing, man.
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>>169098547
Did you forget that you can Link using Xyz?
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>>169098547
Except Xyz decks don't need to spam Xyzs, while Synchros have been reduced to Synchro spam for years now.
Also, you can just use your Xyzs as Link Material.
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>>169098771
>>169098783
>Utopia and Zoodiac is the entire xyz mechanic
Xyz as a mechanic is more fucked than synchro due to link changes.

>>169098847
You can also link using synchro, so it's not an advantage of xyz.
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>>169098952
Xyz lost their purpose after using its effect, and they have no problem getting rid of it to summon more post-Link.

Synchro need to use their synchro to synchro climb, and they can't spare resource to summon link first.
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>>169098952
Xyz is a toolbox mechanic. They can easily afford to Xyz Summon OPT. Find me a decent Synchro deck that doesn't spam as much Synchros as possible turn 1 or loses.
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>>169048027
>old YGO player ( GX era)
>want to play again
>heard ARC V explain the new mechanics well
>saw the first episodes of ARC V
>Pendulum time
>That fucking broke shit
>Summon all the monsters in your hand 4free + can't active Spell or Trap + That broken Odd Eyes effect
How you counter this shit?
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>>169098912
>xyz decks doesn't spam xyz
Are we playing the same game? How many decks only make a single xyz summon per turn?
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>>169099134
the only stupid thing about pendulum is that when you kill them they get to come back for free. Pendulums aren't really broken compared to current Xyz madness, but I hate the idea that they get to return monsters for free after destroying them.
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>>169099134
You really think that's broken?
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>>169099135
>more than 1 = spam
Zoodiacs are the only real xyz spam
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>>169099135
I said they don't need to, not that they don't or can't.
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>>169099095
Crystron?
They do it on turn 2.
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>>169099134
changing the rules
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>>169099134
Pendulum was never strong outside of PePe. Xyz is the real villain.
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>>169099135
How many decks make more than a single xyz summon per turn?
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>>169099440
That's a low blow, man.
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>>169099540
Nowadays, every deck. :^)
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>>169099440
Yamero
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>>169094697
With how mandatory Revival techs are going to be that we'll get Reborn to 1. Very begrudgingly.
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>>169099745
That only count as one deck!
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>>169099134
The mechanic never did anything. They only had 4 relevant decks during all 3 years of ARC-V: Qlis, PePe (and leftovers), old Magicians and Metalfoes.
Qli wasn't even the best deck at its prime, it was Burning Abyss (Xyz deck).
Magicians never reached Tier 1.
PePe was Tier 0, but it was only strong because of Xyz and Ignister.
Metalfoes competed with ABC (Xyz/Contact Fusion deck).

The rest of the Pendulum decks were all underwhelming or garbage

Fuck Xyz.
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>>169099817
You are going to use Miraculous Rebirth and you gonna like it.
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>>169099918
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>>169100092
>BA was the best deck during Qliphort's prime
Did you just start playing?
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>>169100256
>>169099817
Autonomous Action Unit 30$ Common When
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>>169092940
>Not running 3x Kaiju Slumber/2x Dark Hole/1x Raigeki

LMAO
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>>169099134
Just watch a few more episodes and see Yuya get wrecked by people without pendulums.
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UNLIMIT MEEEEE
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>>169100092
>Qli wasn't even the best deck at its prime, it was Burning Abyss (Xyz deck).
>it was Burning Abyss
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>>169100391
Not that guy but he is right. It was like a 60/40 something in BA's favour even in Qliphort's prime. And it was probably lower than 40 to be honest.
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I wish the Link shit would come here faster. Everything I play with right now feels so irrelevant.
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>YGO Vrains have some episodes dedicated to introduce the new mechanism
>Someone tries to spam a bunch of shit from the ED
>They joke about how this is illegal and the character is being silly
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>>169100092
>implying dropping this motherfucker wasnt game
qli's (like pepe) got neutered fast because they were too good.
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>>169100092
>Qli wasn't even the best deck at its prime, BA was.
Firstly, Qli WAS the best deck in its prime in both TCG and OCG. Secondly, in TCG, BA wasn't relevant yet because at that time they were still running Little BA, which was considered a vastly inferior build. It sounds like you got this knowledge secondhand.
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>>169100964
>this triggers the synchro masturbaters
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>>169101061
Towers Turbo was only relevent for a while on the EU because they didn't have an out to Towers. Full power BA was never weaker than Qlis.
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>>169100769
Are you saying Qliphort with no SECE support was Qliphort at it's prime?
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>>169101085
>BA wasn't relevant
BA was always relevant, from the day they came out.
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>fast forward 7 months
>links are out in TCG
>go to locals
>specific people ask if they can play the old style

I'm glad that we have a way to spot the synchro masturbaters without even having to duel them now.
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>>169100092
>Qli wasn't the best deck
But that's wrong.
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I'm a pendulum user, how the fuck am I suppose to play in these new bullshit rules?! I lose 2 spell zones now and I can only pendulum summon 1 fucking monster for the extra deck? Magicians can't make plays like that! If you like these rules then I wish the worst for you, you're nothing but a konami anus licker who'd probably drink their diarrhea if they had it.
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>>169101243
>>169101201
>>169101085
>>169101061
>>169100769
>>169100668
>>169100391
Can someone just check TCG YCS tops at the time so this discussion can end?
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>>169101614
>>169048027
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>>169101605
Buy Zoodiacs
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>>169101454
Honestly, anybody complaining about the new rules are just bad at the game or bad at adjusting. I've been doing playtests for my casual-ass budget decks, and for the most part I'm unaffected. Yeah, one default slot for ED pendulums sucks, but just don't fucking commit your board until you can get a Link out. I had to change my Synchro strategy a bit, but it's ultimately fine and I can do what I was doing before, or do it with different ED monsters.

The only real issue I see is that I feel like TCG is gonna go full retard stunshitter mode to keep the opponent from setting up their board. So really it's business as usual.
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>>169101761
For synchro, what kind of shit did you use to build Link? Spam Link Spider using Doppel?

I wish they reveal more Link already so I can use Dandy or something.
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>manage to open a brick hand with zoodiacs
W-wew, this must be what it's like to play inferior decks.
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>>169101761
>dude you only don't like rule changes to a game you've played for ten years because you're bad xD
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>>169101737
What part of "I'm a pendulum user" did you not understand,anon?

>>169101761
These new rules fucking force you to play the new mechanic you fucking kiss ass! People are right to be pissed off. There's nothing worse then a game being dumbed down to you having to play exactly like everyone else. No creativeness at all.
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>>169101761
>full retard stunshitter mode to keep the opponent from setting up their board
I want to see how much butthurt and tears I can get with my Ghostrick Succubus build. They have their entire MMZ free, but at the same time, they can't do shit.
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>>169101972
dullahan might help with link monsters.
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Sekrit Tek
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>>169101893
I run a Wyverburster/Collapserpent alongside my Junk Doppel engine so that I can get into 7s easily and maintain resources, as well as giving emergency R4 access. I just used the same principles for summoning Links: drop the chaos dragons for a Link, get more Chaos Dragons.
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>>169101960
>These new rules fucking force you to play the new mechanic you fucking kiss ass
Just wait for the field spell that turns all your MMZ into EMZ, at the cost 500 LP each
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>>169101605
>how the fuck am I suppose to play in these new bullshit rules?
Black Fang as hard and as fast as possible? At least Tune exists for pulling bodies out
Magicians at least get to use Amazing Pendulum, but eww pending from hand

>Pendulumgraphs on top of fewer S/T
Good thing Spacetime is as strong as it is
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>>169100092
>Qli wasn't even the best deck at its prime
pic related
>PePe was Tier 0, but it was only strong because of Xyz and Ignister
this is false. they were tier zero because of how consistent their search and draw engines were. not to mention that they could swarm the field every turn thanks to pendulum summon. yes ignister is a synchro but it has direct synergy with pendulums. nobody is running ignister without pendulums.

metalfoes were top tier and still continue to be a good deck to run.
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>>169101614
The point is, Nekroz was the top deck by a landslide.
BA was better than Qliphorts before Secrets of Eternity, but that's not "Qliphort at its prime".
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>Making 5head even bigger
Oh god
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>>169102093
>at the cost 500 LP each
>implying the first 6000 LP are even relevant
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>>169101972
>can't Link using fd monster
Ouch.
Doll utility just go down with the existence of Link, but Scare is as useful as ever.
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>>169102062
Saved ;)
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>>169101960
>>169101957
RDAs don't give a shti about the new mechanics. They only summoned one monster at a time from ED anyway.

Yes, if you can't adapt, your deck was either inherently flawed or you haven't yet figured out how to adapt it.

I've been playing this game literally since the beginning. In elementary school my friend imported boxes of Volume 1 from Japan and I've never looked back since. If you aren't used to adjusting for Konami's ridiculous whims by now, then you've either been blind to the change or you just started playing in the last year.
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>>169101761
>I've been doing playtests for my casual-ass budget decks
Congrats, you fooled yourself into thinking you're managing
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>>169102173
Then the first guy was right and Qlis were never the best deck at their prime, but he was wrong in the sense that it was BA?
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>>169102217
I was just making mention to one of my favorite and most broken cards ever.
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>>169102303
>90% of the complaints are about how "X Casual Deck is RUINED"
>Somebody actually tests with their casual decks and says "it's fine, you just need to try".
>"N-NO YOU'RE JUST DELUDING YOURSELF"
This is you. This is what you sound like.
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>>169102063
There's still no Link-1 monster that can be made with just the serpent, so what other material did you use to Link summon and which Link did you summon?
Gaiasaber?
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>>169101761
>all these synchro shitters getting triggered as fuck just over this

Oh boi I'm laffin
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>>169102134
I hope a Spellcaster-type Link exist so I can Black Fang it to MMZ after using it to Link climb.
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>>169102596
>he still haven't given up on Orica Magicians even after Konami nerfed them with a ruling
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>>169102440
While I routinely had materials TO Link summon, I often didn't because I discovered that I could accomplish a decent amount with just one ED monster. In cases where I wanted multiple ED monsters, I had the resources to make Decode Talker.

I also used a weird trick involving Doppel Tokens, Interdimensional Matter Transporter, two Link Spiders, both EMZs, and Honeybot, but that took two turns to set up properly so I can't say I recommend it.
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>>169102724
Who could give up on this
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>>169102724
Dude, I used to play Fabled without any clue.
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>>169102820
>>169102883
Even after Konami killed Pendulums?
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Pendulum support Link Monsters when?
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>>169102761
>Interdimensional Matter Transporter
>>>both EMZs
Uhh...
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>want to build gishki nekroz
>can't remember how the fuck to build them
>last used them on DN so that's out of the picture
>archive doesn't seem to have the couple odd decklists i saw posted in here over a year ago
Guess it's back to figuring out ratios and techs the hard way.
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>>169102923
I am a stubborn man, anon
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>>169102820
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>>169102923
Dude, I used to play shitty Fabled toolbox.
In Xyz era.
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>>169048027
Extra Deck Shitters and Pendulum Fags getting beat with the nerf stick. What a time to be alive.
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People just needs to remember that those initial Link monsters are just the initial cards that the MC will probably use, so they are probably shit.
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>>169102761
That seems complicated on top of being unreliable.
And you're also reduced to toolboxing synchro.

I think I'm gonna wait for other Link-1.
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>>169103130
YAMETE
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>>169103260
but Decode Talker is pretty good
and is most likely his FAVORITO KAADO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjiUBholiYg
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I fucking hate Judgement Dragon.
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>>169103368
I think that Decode Talker is pretty much the Vrains version of Dark magician. And it is pretty good now because all the other links are meh.
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>>169103260
Yeah, in the future we'll get a shit ton of broken Links so we can spam them without remorse, while Konami keeps sucking Xyz dick and Synchro/Pendulum fags kill themselves. What's Fusion and Ritual btw?
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>>169103516
>not Flame Wingman
>not JUNK WARRIOR
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>>169103586
I think that fusion may be getting a better potential out of Links, since it is the only special summon that doesn't give a fuck about level.

>>169103586
>Junk Warrior
It's generation Dark Magician.

>Flame Wingman
Worse Kuriboh replaced by a better kuriboh.
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Are there any reliable ways to turbo Ultimate Conductor Tyranno? All other variants of Dinosaurs that use the Extra Deck will be extinct soon.
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What´s more entertaining to play? Mermail or Shiranui? I´ll lean towards Mermail, but Shiranui are less pricey. They both look good to me.
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>>169103984
Shiranui will be dead once Links hit. Just invest in Mermail.
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>>169103984
Shiranui require multiple Omega for a guild build so they really aren't cheap

Mermail feels like a kick in the balls every time you open without Neptabyss
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>>169068901
UDE should of stayed
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>>169103875
Dinosaurs are a shit meme
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>>169104221
UNLIMIT DIVA
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>>169104136
>>169104221
Mermail it is then. I already got a few of the small 3s and a Neptabyss. I quess, I´ll work myself up from there. They´re still playable without Atlanteans, right?
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>>169104421
ive heard of people playing with more Gundes and stuff rather than Atlanteans but I wouldn't

Dragoons is 100% mandatory
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>>169103636
a truly nostafag
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will scapegoat be limited or too slow?
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So I plan on attending my first ARG Circuit in a month from now.

What am I in for?

How do I prepare?

Any past experiences here?

I am taking Dark Magician, so I doubt I'll get far v. Infernoids, but have a decent match up v. Zoo.
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>>169104783
>What am I in for?
Zoodiacs

>How do I prepare?
Buy Zoodiacs
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>>169104765
If you just want to build link for EMZ, it's too slow.
But if you want to summon the non-existant Link with a good effect, it's powerful enough.
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>tfw no Pendulum Evolution deck until May
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>>169104929
>>169104783
Buy Chain Burn*
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>>169105245
>mfw may is my birthday
>siblings are parents send me money on my birthday
free deck
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>>169105329
It probably won't release until June or July anyway, they don't want to release a new deck the month after releasing two decks.
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>>169102063
those things are fucking garbage and have always been
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>>169100661
Get fucked you know it's OP searching
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>>169103871
its 2300 not 2500 so it's junk not whatever his ace is
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>>169105329
>siblings are parents
*and
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>>169105695
Warrior is dead.
DEAAAAAD.
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>>169103293
ban the zood
>>169104765
the slowness is MORE than enough of a balancing factor
>>169105783
up the shut fuck
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>>169103376
There was this lightsworn player at my locals that had never actually read his cards and thought he could activate giant hand whenever he wanted and that JD's effect wouldn't pop his other JD. The deck really is becoming the next Tellar in terms of helmeted retards playing it.
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>>169105997
Stop having PTSD, anon.
They're dead.
DEAAAAAAAAD
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>>169106057
>The deck really is becoming the next Tellar in terms of helmeted retards playing it.
Helmet Retards have always plays Lucksacks.
This is nothing new.
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>>169105783
Konami is releasing monsters for E-HERO decks that can't be searched with E-Call. Unlimiting Reinforcement would defeat the whole purpose.
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>>169105783
Buster Blader is a warrior retard, he doesn't even need ROTA get fucked retard
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>>169103516
>literally Yugi's, Gaia the Fierce Knight
>literally Judai's, E-HERO Flame Wingman
>literally Yusei's, Junk Warrior
>literally Yuma's Dododo Warrior
>literally Yuya's Performapal Bubblebowwow

I can go on.
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>>169106475
>for E-HERO decks
It's like there's no other HERO other than E-HERO.
Anyway, it's not even that good for HERO Toad.
And the Ultimaya build is as inconsistent as Buster Blader.

>>169106552
>he thinks Buster Blader isn't dead.
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>>169068901
>Positives
>KoA
Huh?

KoA handles this game like shit. They exploit the hell out of anything that is even remotely meta in OCG, rarity bumping it to tremendous levels. Their translation team has been on record as literally translating stuff poorly/incorrectly just to be different for the sake of being different. Casual decks routinely have exorbitant pricetags involved in their cards. On the subject of pricetags, the rarest and most expensive card IN ALL OF OCG of which there are TEN THOUSAND COPIES is just over $300, while there are many metas where you can't even build a whole deck in TCG with that much. Then there's all the retarded America-specific rulings like Deneb-CotH and Rampart Blaster. And on top of all of this, you can't use OCG cards in TCG so that you're forced to use their overpriced product.

Only reason I haven't converted to exclusively OCG product is because I don't know moon proficiently enough, and my friends aren't likely to want to learn anytime soon.
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>"True Draco" or "True King" card
The whole Arsenal Summoner shenanigan isn't enough, it seems.
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>Xyz Dragon and Pendulum Dragon magicians are men
>Synchro Dragon and Fusion Dragon magicians are waifus
Really makes me think.
>>
What are cute decks that are also decent or good? Excluding madolche and ghostrick
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>>169107887
Deskbots.
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>>169085652
2016 mega tins are a good place to start.
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>>169107809
>Fusion Dragon magicians are waifus
>that chest
>waifu
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>>169107887
Ritual Beast
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>>169108049
It's a woman.
>>
Haven't played in a year, anyone with a new fresh deskbot meme deck?
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>>169068901
The only positive currently is the two secrets per box, and a super rare+ in every pack.

Outside of that, Konami of America has done a piss poor job in handling the game to only fuel Tewart's Jewish greed.

The man himself, who was fired from UDE for obvious reasons, was hired and appointed by Konami as head of their fucking American branch for this fucking card game. For what reason? Who fucking knows, but the man is unprofessional and a fucking crook.

His only reason for pushing for the split of banlists again was due to how KoA's revenue was shit with how Japan gives us half a month heads up on what is going to get gutted instead of pushing for immediate translations in a months time.
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>>169107937
It looks pretty cute but it's pendulum heavy it seems.

>>169108095
Those are pretty cute.
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>>169108206
>that jawline
>a woman
No.
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>>169102173
I am pretty sure they got the most tops when they were up against BAs. In comparison to against Nekroz.
No matter the case we're talking about a deck that came in second place twice and then quickly faded into obscurity.
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>>169108284
Deskbots don't use Pendulum summoning.
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>>169108230
Two secrets is nice except when Konami makes 2 or 3 of cards secret
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>>169108095
>Can tag out to free your EMZ
Too bad tewart still has his head up his ass about ulti kanna
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>>169107887
Frogs and Naturia are pretty cute but kinda expensive
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>>169108230
>The only positive currently is the two secrets per box, and a super rare+ in every pack.
That's about it for the positives. Remember, he's the one who axed anything better than secret.
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>>169108712
Not to mention how fucking bad secrets have been since PRIO

Card art ruining rarity.
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>>169103871
>the past 5 protagonist's ace monsters have all been 2500 ATK monsters
>but this 2300 ATK monster is TOTALLY the protag's Dark Magician guys!

Go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>169108846
Not to mention that the most disgusting rarity is still TCG exclusive although the second best is tcg exclusive, so whatever.
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>>169108381
She's an evil witch.
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I just heard that Tea is actually the strongest female duelist in the series
>>>/a/153788301

Is her deck really that strong?
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>>169109051
Platinum Rare?
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>>169109167
Platinum secret is the most disgusting.
I really like platinum rare. It's very nice.
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>>169108920
But Yuma lost Utopia at the end of Zexal did he not?

>>169109057
How rude

>>169107809
Noble Dragon Magician
Tune Magician
Xiangsheng Magician, which is appearing in next week's episode,. All three of them have pink hair.
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>>169109057
>that neck
>a witch
No.
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>>169108920
The previous 5 aces also had DEF points.
I am leaning towards it not being his ace. But there are some pretty arguments for why it would be.

A major one being the promo shots predominately featuring it. Going by the recent track record of Arc-V and ZeXal they marketed the ace monster pretty hard just like that together with the protagonist.
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>>169109617
>The previous 5 aces also had DEF points.
This is a shitty argument.
Are you saying Yusaku's ace monster won't be a Link monster because they don't have DEF?

Also Junk Warrior appeared in promotional arts for some time before Stardust Dragon.
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>>169109141
No, it's shit. Her victories against Jou are all offscreen and back when he was running a 60-card all-monster deck. Her victory against Mai was because they were dueling over a specific clash of ideals and Mai let her win after being convinced of Tea's side of things.

If I recall, her only 100% legitimate full-power self-earned duel is in the Virtual World arc, and even then she cheated Yugi's Dark Magician into her deck mid-duel so that barely counts.
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I wonder if they will make Extra Deck monsters who occupy multiple EMZs.

In before VRAINs introduces Red cards in addition to Blue cards. And you play Blue cards to make room for Red cards.
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>>169109926
plus the fact of it being in a filler arc
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>>169110092
Many females in YGO can't even manage a win in Filler.
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>>169110013
christ i'm getting fine with the idea just to shut people up
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>>169110013
>introduces Red cards
But we already have red cards!
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>>169110227
Is Akiza the most competent female then? Not only did she have important wins but also had one of the best decks in the series.
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I miss the old, simpler days, when most of your removal was s/t based and SS2, where a forbidden lance at the right time made your plays work. I'm so tired of counter traps and monster based quick removal.
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>>169102820
So, Iris magician is a girl, right?
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>>169110331
I'm tired of damn Solemns, time to limit those shitters already. Or at least give me back Heavy Storm.
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>>169110489
Trap stun!
oh wait, game is too fast for that now.
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>>169110254
>red
That's clearly Magenta.
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>>169110405
no he's donte
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>>169110321
For onscreen duels? Yes, definitely Aki.
If we're judging exclusively by deck power and general assumptions made about character competence, I'd say probably Anna from ZeXal. Even without Superior Dora her deck's no slouch.

Easily the worst female duelist in the franchise is Kotori, which is ironic since her VA was a metafag that ran Agents in their prime.
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>>169110571
But magenta is a red!
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>>169110595
>I'd say probably Anna from ZeXal.
Her deck is way too luck based (at least that was my impression in Legacy of Duelists). Too many useless spell cards if you don't have the right cards in your hand / graveyard.
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>>169110595
which is also why they made her the main femc
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How much money have you spent on YGO cards?

>Me: easily over $1000
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>>169109872
No. I was just saying that the ace this time very well might not need to adhere to the previous ATK points standard since they're already very different.

As for the promo stuff. I specifically mentioned recent times. 5D's was three shows ago. Nine years ago.
And I am not saying that it's irrelevant. The recent track record is however more recent and thus reflects how Konami have worked in recent times as opposed to old times.

In spite of all this I am personally leaning towards it not being the ace. Since I am a stickler for standards and patterns of this kind.
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>>169110830
You don't run many copies (if any) of the majority of her specific backrow. You put the field at 3 and everything else is 0-1.
She also has a card in the anime that turns any monster with a Level into a Lv 10, which I am extremely disappointed isn't real.
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>>169110669
I want a deep red card color for the mechanic after Links or the final mechanic (which I think will be the series that comes after the series hat comes after VRAINS)
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>>169111068
You don't need to make it even easier to shit out a bigass train.
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>>169110595
>>169110830
>>169110847
Reminder that Anna was going to be the main girl before the stuff about Kotori's VA came to light
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Anyone have any fun/funny locals stories?
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>>169111000
We all know Yuya's ace was KAIHEI, so the pattern's already been broken.

>>169111139
It'd make Rank 10s relevant outside of their specific TWO (2) decks.
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>>169111000
>hell Armageddon
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>>169106475
I want V•HEROs so bad. They have one of the best mechanics.
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>>169111192
Why just not make Kotori's VA into Anna's VA and call it a day?
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>>169110321
>Aki
>competent
>literally only had a grand total of TWO (2) Extra Deck monsters, 1 of which blows itself up when it hits the field
>gets BTFO by Andre
>reduced to benchwarmer status afterwards

Face the facts. YGO has never been kind to female duelists. I'd sooner give it to the Tyler sisters as being more competent by virtue of not being retarded, even if they used >Amazoness.
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>>169111192
What came to light? Something similar to the mess with Carly? Or do the two have the same VA?
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>>169111000
Hope damn well should have been rank 7.
It's not as if Yuma wouldn't have been able to summon it. Like what was even the points of the Gagaga cards if all you were going to do was summon Rank 4s anyway?
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>>169111221
Be glad they even have 2 decks. There's shitloads of archetypes and ranks that are far less fortunate.
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>>169111451
Her playing the game irl
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I don't understand how yugioh can cost as much as modern mtg. I can buy a box of vengeance for 60 but d barrier costs 80?
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>>169111436
>>gets BTFO by Andre

That's just pure forced loss though. Andre's pathetic gay univorn deck has no chance to win against her.
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LEAVE THE LIGHTNING TO ME
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>>169111436
Aki was a great character before they ruined her in the second arc though.
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>>169111580
Explain. WHat exactly is wrong with that?
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>>169111682
>Lightning + Honest
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>>169111596

MtG is better than YGO in every way
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>>169111596
Jewart is the answer to all your problems
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>>169111000
>tfw no fusion ace monster
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>>169111451
Kotori's VA's manager negotiated her into having a speaking role in literally every episode in the series.

I'll repeat that: Kotori was literally in every episode because she was contractually obligated to be.

Why they didn't have her voice Anna or turn Kotori into an actual competent character is beyond my understanding.
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>>169111897
Who even runs honest these days?
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>>169111987
Honestly, I don't know.
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>>169112093
I miss when honest was the go to "I need to run over something huge" card.
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>>169111949
Contrast Hero Chaos and Elemental Hero Shining Flare Wingman
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>>169111963
I can only imagine how pissed off Anna's VA was, getting relegated to a filler character that appears in a total of 5 episodes. At the very least, they could've had her be among Yuma's group of friends. Given how Zexal is pretty much a harem anime, they could've made it a harem anime
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>>169111630
It doesn't change the fact that both her and Jack were made into jokes by a nigga that was running shit from DREV.

>>169111779
Not really. She was just an insecure psychotic hot piece of ass that let herself get pimped by Devine prior to the WRGP, and a benchwarmer that got her powers stripped from her for no real reason afterwards.
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>>169073640
>tfw playing Kaiju Shinobirds against Zoodiac
>I thought Shinobirds were supposed to be garbage.
>Non targeting multi removal that SS a spirit is garbage
Post list
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>>169112336
It's likely that casting was done well after the main bulk of the writing, which is why it feels like Kotori is shoehorned into scenes she wasn't originally, just so she can say "Yuma..." and then go home.

While Kaz designed Anna as the female lead, I'm of the impression that the staff never really had any intentions of using her as one. Superior Dora implies there may have been plans to have her possessed by Numbers at some point, but Anna's so disconnected from the main plot that I gotta wonder if somebody didn't get their knickers in a twist over something.
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>>169112229
Because they were featured so much.
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Is YGO Pro down for everyone else too or am I alone in this?
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>>169110986
600$.........in Duel Links
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>>169111000
is the junk warrior
dm-zexal (best of ygo)
gx-arc v (worst of ygo)
5ds-vrains (card games on...)
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>>169112693
Shining Flare Wingman showed up alot before Neos. Neos is fucking sucks because for some ungodly reason Konami feared contact fusion was too powerful for Judai, then they made those Gladiator Beasts.

Think about how stupid that is

>Neo-spacians have no synergy with Heroes nor even each other
>None of their effects make sense, none of them have any field staying power or real search cards
>They can only fuse with Elemental Hero Neos and they can only fuse from the field in a deck that has no way to get them all to the field quickly and constantly
>The fusions themselves are pretty mediocre for the cost of having to throw their fusion material back into the deck and unless you have Neo space or instant Neo space the fusion is gone by the end of the turn
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>>169112961
>He spent money in duel links.
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>>169112608
I think the game original Numbers are just them trying to meet their quota since they wrote themselves into needing 100 of them (which we still don't have all of anyway). You'll notice that the main set exclusive cards started at the very tail end of Zexal and into the first half of Arc-V's sets, after which point they would've already known characters like Anna, Tron, and so on were fan favorites in Japan
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>>169113085
Searching wasn't as prevalent in the GX anime because there were so many goodstuff draw cards that could be used instead. Judai could empty his hand, topdeck bubbleman, then topdeck Pot of Greed, then topdeck Mirage of Nightmare, then flip E-Provisions on his opponent's turn every time for 100+ episodes.

Hell, the very last episode has them bring back the ORIGINAL hand-filler anime card, Card of Sanctity, just for the sake of filling up the two MCs' hands again.
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>>169112961
FAKKA YOU WAERU
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>>169113435
You know, I'm going to try that right now in a Neos deck and see how different things are for it.
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>>169113782
Neos has more problems than just getting the fucker in your hand. You also have to get him AND a Neo Spacian on the field AND have to have Neo Space up (or pocket neo space) AND you have to run protection/draw power on TOP of this because the deck has none of that inherently outside of a single shitty counterproductive draw card.
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>>169113390
Speaking of, there are still 13 missing numbers:
"05", 27, 29, 41, 60, 67, 68, 71, 75, 76, 89, 90, 97

05 being in quotations because while we see the card revealed for a brief moment before it's RUM'd, its effects are indecipherable.
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How long until we get hybrid link monsers. Like a synchro which opens extra zones and has no def like a linker.
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>the same people that laugh at us for spending money on cardboard also buy keys for cs:go or keys and crates for league of legends
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>>169113435
>hand-filler anime card, Card of Sanctity

What do you mean by hand-filler anime card? Isn't it in the trading card game too?? I got a lot of copies of it (hand made), such great card it is.
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>>169114217
>hybrid
>outside of anniversary series
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>>169094898
the deck is usually inconsistent as fuck, but we have a couple of good red-eyes pilots, ConcreteGiraffes a.k.a Red-Eyes poster is one of them, last time he posted he was running a Hybrid FTK/Aggro build that was somewhat nice.
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>>169114437
>What do you mean by hand-filler anime card?
I mean that it's one of the cards used in scripted duels to recover hand advantage.

Before searchers, you'd just draw a bunch of shit and hope you could play it. If your deck (and you) weren't dogshit, you could usually get some use out of it. Because of how scripted duels work, writers would basically use the mass draw opportunities to set up the hands for specific plays, like mass searching.
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GX is special. It's pretty clear that it' from before they even thought of how all the ace monsters should mimic Dark Magician in stats.
Flame Wingman was Judai's ace monsters before Neos had even been conceived.
Of course, it's still true that later Neos no doubt became Judai's ace. But before then Flame Wingman was his legitimate ace.
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>>169114217
Never. They don't have levels.
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#UnsealTheSeal
But seriously, is this thing even any good?
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>>169114437
The actual version of Card of Sanctity is also nowhere near close to what it is in the anime

Of course there's always cards better than anime Card of Sanctity
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>>169115649
Bianca. More like Biancutea! CUTE!
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>>169115649
>Not Shaymeme-EX, which is a spammable one-sided anime card of sanctity.
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>>169115856
Wait, isn't that the girl from the New York pokemon game?

The one who ran away from her father and got raped and knocked up? And in the second New York game she was a single mother no one wanted to marry?
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>>169099095
OEM
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>>169112961
But why?
Physical copies I understand, but this is Data and it's randomly generated. Further more you can get more cards and better cards for the same price in IRL packs.
Not to mention you can buy individually.
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>>169099095
>Find me a decent Synchro deck that doesn't spam as much Synchros as possible turn 1 or loses.
The KING's deck only needs to make one monster at a time, and revives any others it needs. Hell, even in the anime he just makes RDA (scarlight in Arc-V) then sits on it and upgrades it over time.
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>>169102724
That's why I use Terraforming and Sky Iris.
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Friend bought a case of fusion enforcers.
He has 3 play sets of Eidolon and he said he'll sell me one for $120.
Worth yea/no.
I honestly feel like a fucking idiot spending $5 on a card or even a bunch of cards so I'm very apprehensive about spending $120.
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>>169116292
>$120 for a full playset of the entire deck
It's a gamble this early. The deck could go up and be as much as triple that, or it could be a bunch of easy pulls and be a quarter of that price.

Up to you.
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>>169116098
You would have to be a manchild to spend money on REAL card games. I'am already 22, All my friends outgrown Yugioh when they were in primary school. Thank God for Duel Links
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>>169109310
Yeah, Zarc has a pink hair fetish.
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>>169116481
You would have to be a manchild/nostalgiafag to spend money on card games, period. Please don't delude yourself into thinking that just because you're exclusively buying it digitally that you're somehow better than the people buying it physically.
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>>169115356
>skipping draws
What the fuck do you think?
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>>169114175
We only had its name due to the Chaos Chimera's effect mentioning it. 5 never appeared not even in card
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>>169116486
But those are Yuya's cards. We've seen Zarc's
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>>169116702
>opponent's next turn
It only affect your opponent on turn 4, and that's only if you go first.
The game will end before you see it.
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>>169116873
Xiangsheng was created while he was under Awakening, White Wing is Clear Wing (Zarc's dragon) in human form.

Pretty sure the guy has a pink hair fetish. Considering Yuto as well, his ideal type of girl is a kind waifu.

>''But what about Yugo?''
It's clear that from whatever was split from Zarc, nothing was left to go to Yugo, hence why he is an idiot
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>>169116292
Do it.
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>>169116148
Make one monster at a time is the catch.
You'll be making one each turn, every turn.

Revive the one you need? You'll only be able to revive once with Bane and unless you use Bane to Link, you won't be able to make anything more.
Two monster is fuck easy to stall out anyway.
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You aren't one of THOSE players are you?

I noticed how like in their 5 worst yugioh players video they are still bitching about people looking up how much their cards are worth
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>>169118041
Jesus christ, why is his nose so fat?
That has to be shopped.
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>>169115882
Shaymin is one of my favorite Pokemon, but it's not as cute as Bianca
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>>169116434
Man, I hate gambling. I was thinking of having him hold it at that price, if it goes up pick it up for that price if it goes down haggle him to the new price.
He'd probably do it too because we're pretty close but I don't want to do it because we're close.
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>>169113990
I hate to admit it, but you were right. I used alot of broken cards in the deck and I still could barely keep a neos fusion up, most of the time I dead draw cards because I didn't have a fucking fusion or the right monsters either. God dammit, what the fuck were they thinking with this archetype and gimmick, it's unplayable. It's trash, it's garbage, I'd rather run a generic elemental hero fusion deck with Honesty Neos than this shit. How did J man become the best duelist in his school with a deck like this? It's outlandish and damn near impossible no matter how good a drawer he is. His opponents must not of direct attacked, nor played more than 1 monster at a time. Cyber Angels and Veichroids are stronger than this
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>>169118041
Used to be "not for trade" faggot, but got better at it and kept my essentials in a separate binder that I don't bring out. Thing about the so-called "nah, I'm just looking" faggot is that they typically are looking for shit, but more often than not, the person in question just has a shit binder.
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I'm unreasonably displeased at the rank 4 ghostrick's name.
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>>169120936
You won't even say it?
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>>169121093
I mean, it should be (keeping in with the dumb pun in the jp name) Ghostrick Dorklord or some similar darklord pun.
But no, instead we have to deal with it being "Ghostrick Angel of Mischief"
KoA seriously needs some work.
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>Reborn Tengu is at about 10 a pop due to link summoning
Oh my
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>all these xyz that have the ability to detach 1 (one) material to destroy any card

I'd say it was fair if they had to detach all materials but that is just fucking insane.
>>
UPDATE FUCKING WHEN
PERCY
PERCY
PERCY
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>>169121294
But almost none of the ghostrick monster names are puns in the TCG.
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>>169120936
The use of Ghostrick X over X of the Ghostrick still activates my almonds.
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>>169118041
What's wrong with looking prices up?
I see constantly veterans trying to rip off newbies trading some stupid 50c e-hero fusion for something like ghost ogre and the newbies being more than willing.
I just let it be except if one of my friends are about to be ripped off then I step in and ruin the other dudes day. There's nothing wrong in getting the value you deserve.
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>>169120936
Yukionna!
Nekomusume!
Socuteboss!
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>>169121294
They should've just kept it as Datenshi considering they were fine with leaving Yuki-onna and Nekomusume alone
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>>169114279
fuck you

they're better than cards that lose value over new meta

cs:go skins are perfectly fine
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>>169121294
[email protected]
Email them here.
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>>169121858
>not even half of the ruling is clear
>gib me update plz
FUCK YOU
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>>169122350
>digital items have value

Oh my sweet naive child.
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>>169121649
Oh, that's a good idea.
I should really start looking for non-tuner that can generate advantage from leaving the field or something.
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What girl is that?
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>>169123242
Your mum.
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Errata'd Sangan to 3 when?
I want to search my Gofu and Maxx "C"
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>>169123960
or ghost ogre
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>>169123431
Yo momma is so fat, Storming Mirror Force can't return her to the hand
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>>169121858
Go to hell,anon, we barely know what all the new rules do such as tokens and rank up xyz change
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>there are people who defend links
always knew you guys were rubbish
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>>169125176
Always knew you were a faggot
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>>169125242
why are you derailing?
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just a reminder for you newfags and retards out there

Ignore tripattentionwhores
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>>169125403
im a namefag and actually helped get rid of the majority of trips
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I'm hungry
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>>169125723
>proving the point of the comic
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>>169125165
There's nothing ambiguous about tokens, some people are assuming tokens can't be used because Konami never allowed ED summoning with tokens only, but there's nothing implying you can't link with them.

I'll even go ahead and say Decode Talker is the proff that you can use tokens. His materials requeriment is effect monsters exactly because Konami is aware of token abuse, so only some link monsters will be summonable with tokens.
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>>169125836
>replying to tripfags

Just stop.
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>>169125865
>never allowed ED summoning with tokens only
I never tried, but you can't xyz with tokens?
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>>169126010
No, you can't Xyz with Tokens, because every card that summons more than one summons them all with identical stats. It would've been a nightmare.
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I hope for a future where this isn't necessary
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>>169126508
It's so much worse on /vg/ for some reason. People find it acceptable. The avatar fags are just as bad, just look at /tesg/ it's such a terrible general.
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Well the Vanilla WoW server I was playing on has literally gone to shit, which means I'm coming back here. When will YGOPro be updated for Link Summons? I want to play and enjoy the game without having to run fifteen negation cards all the time.
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>>169126693
The only avatarfag that was acceptable was Accel.

Meat Eater D shud go

Blu was okay because he was posting curvy brown girls
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First a SJW tripfag from /vp/ appears in /a/rc-v, now a retarded one here. What's next? Redditors and tumblr start invading?
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>>169099134
>>169099440
kek pendulum is fucking dead.
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>>169126924
Fuck off Accel, you are not fooling anyone.
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>>169127065
OEM will be ok though, and that's all that matters. I won't let Konami kill my petdeck.
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>>169127138
>OEM
>Petdeck
>Implying it won't be competitively viable once Rat dies
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>>169127101
Man if I was accel I'd still post jewing updates

Those were kinda neat
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>>169126508
learn to face your problems
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>>169127268
Sure thing anon.
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>>169127058
>Redditors
they've been around stealing oc and going into our tournies for money
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>>169120936
She's such a fucking dork!
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>>169122334
Prosticuteboss!
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>>169127268
I doubt it. I don't know enough about how much the Zarc Magicians will change OEM, but I'm looking forward to figuring them and Links out.
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>>169127679
move over hun
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>>169125865
How about the ownership of EMZ after both become empty again mid-duel?
Can you do pic related?
Is being Linked a "conducive" thing?
Can you equip Darkworld Shackles to Link monster?
Is Link monster affected by the Wicked Dreadroot effect?
Why are you such a faggot?
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>>169127138
>I won't let Konami kill my petdeck.
No but other players will.

>>169127268
>Implying it won't be competitively viable once Rat dies
>Rat dies
Yeah right after Dante :^)
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>>169128163
>after Dante
>that single BA top in the midts of all that Zood
Holy shit.
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>>169128382
I WILL NEVER DIE!
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>>169128568
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
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>>169128750
>>169128750
New
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>>169118139
It is.
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>>169128764
zodiac fag out
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>>169119773
Reminder that half of the Cyber Angels that exist today didn't exist in GX, and the other half didn't have any effects and relied on Ritual Weapon to be used as a beater. Asuka was a jobber and had to be spoonfed wins in filler episodes just so that the writers could say she had wins.

>>169127960
We still don't know if you can legally do that.
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>>169132092
Then don't talk as if everything is clear already.
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