/twg/ - Total War General

HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme elves, meme goblins, meme squigs, AHHHH rome, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.

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Tomb Kings WHEN?

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>non aggression pact
>trade agreement
>75 green relations
>save scum 3 times, this happens every time
??????????

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>>169041136
someone said memes ?

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>>169041136

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

I'm still excited.

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Recruitable AOR troops soon.

>>169041260
That's what you get for trusting fucking romans

latin scum

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Did somebody say shit about ze Lady?!

>>169041260
>Devious
>Opportunist

>>169041529

Italians defend their moms.

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Rock the boat!

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>>169041079
Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Games Workshop, which, as much as I admire, I do quibble with. Warhammer Fantasy had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Games Workshop can say that Karl Franz became emperor and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But GW doesn’t ask the question: What was Franz's tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these Chaos Warriors? By the end of the war, Archaon is gone but all of the Chosen aren’t gone – they’re in the Chaos Wastes. Did Karl Franz pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby Chosen, in their little chaos cradles?

>>169041910
good shit.

>>169041810
But brets are french

>>169041910
>Did he maintain a standing army?

Well he did.

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A deal's a deal Anon!

Now you have to sup from my Grail

>>169041773
they could attack anyone
it's like theyre hard coded now to attack epirus or whoever holds it
that's gay and i dont like it

>>169041910
Good questions Martin. Here, have your ranch. You deserve it after typing that taxing paragraph

>>169042297
Wow didn't see this meme for a while

>>169042297
What a beautiful human. You can tell its a human because of the jugs.

>>169041260
Rome the faction has the fucking worst ai when it comes to diplomacy.

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>>169042628
to everything there is a season

>>169041079
>Gobbo archers

THE TRUE VON CARSTEIN

>>169041371
mod link?

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>>169043226
You forgot to pluralize the last word.

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>>169043798
haven't uploaded it yet.
here, have a blooper.

>>169036082
In my game Marienburg was the last surviving elector count lord with as much lands as the empire themselves until they confederated for some fucking reason.

>>169043826
>Vlad
>nose

Bullshit.

>>169043826
Isabella making Morathi look like a pure maiden

>>169044386
More like bullshit CA.
Vampires can literally look like whatever they want, that's why they have to drink blood and aren't just charismatic skeletons like Nagash and Arkhan.

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Hey lore blokes, what are the uniform colours of sylvania? I need it for reasons.

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Did you guy notice it?
Also Kislev has unique icon as a capitol city.

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>>169044764

>>169044764
Black and Red.

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>>169044907
yes, we know, which is the entire basis of the mod I am making.

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>>169041278
>some dude actually saved that
Here have a selfie too.

>>169044386
That was before he died, then got back up.

>>169044983
>land ruled by bloodthirsty monsters of the night
>soldiers use scythes

its like they're asking for it

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>169044983
>>169045012
it looks kinda similar to the wissenland colors.

>>169044764
the shade of yellow used ingame for averland is so fucking ugly, actuall all colours for the provinces are fucking ugly

What's so special about Averland, other than the mad count?

>>169045131
The place was a dark-magic infested shithole even before the vampires. The natural conditions were enough to create zombies without any guided necromancy.

>>169045507
cattle fed with protein

God I'm in the middle of a VC campaign right now as Daddy Vladdy but I just can't finish it. I told myself I would finish the VC before Bretonnia dropped but I hear the clarion call and just can't be bothered anymore. Even then I also now feel like trying a Skarsnik campaign as I never finished the one I started then. Help me /twg/

>>169045507
Best color scheme hands down.

>>169045568
are you talking about the women or the cattle?

>>169045507
Nothing, it's probably the least fleshed out of all the provinces. Reikland are rich jews, Stirland are rednecks, Middenland are vikings, Nordland are sailors, Ostland are slavs, Wissenland have their tech etc.

>>169045714
they are both the same.

>>169045721
What about Talabecland and Ostermark?

Today was the day!

PATCH NOTES
WHEN

>>169045721
Averlanders are like rich Texans. Less metropolitan and more rural than Reiklanders, and good at breeding horses.

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>>169045864
Talabecland have their own god and their capital is in a giant crater, so that's something. Ostermark doesn't really have that much, they these death head guys though which could have been a great RoR.

>>169046069
When have they usually done patch notes?
I can't imagine they'll come out before release day

>>169045721
Isn't Averland basically Knight capital of the Empire? I know it is the least forested and thus most agriculture heavy province aswell.

>>169045507
How does an Averlander tell the difference between his woman and his cattle?
He can't

>>169046273
they've actually usually put them out before major patches, so we know what to expect
I guess expect them either on Thursday or this coming weekend

>>169046393
DELETE THIS

>>169046268
How come VCs cannot recruit those as Vlad for instance?

>>169046632
>literally founded to combat Vampire count rule
>why can't Vampires use them?

>>169046632
re-read it
they formed AGAINST Vlad

>>169046769
Why would anyone do that?

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>>169046762
>>169046769
Oh damn, sorry.
Would be a nice RoR thats immune to fear though.

>>169045405
>Empire niggers
>Get anything nice

Haha fuck off this is zee lady game now

Can i just say how fucking cool it is that we have people who make mods posting in these threads? You faggots are great

>>169047089
kek/kek

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here are the sylvanian units you wanted to see. There's a squad of shielded spearmen from hochland in the back, and a unit of regular spearmen from stirland.

any other units you guys wanna see?

>>169047431
Nordland bls

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>>169047265
>/twg/ will never have HPM tier modder
Truly a waste

so what makes the best Lores of magic best?

I'm really loving VC Lore of Death/Shadows/Vampirism for their buff/debuff stacking (20 seconds of evaporating enemies that usually ends with a complete rout in the last 5 seconds is nice)

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A unit of wissenlander handgunners and reikland halberdiers. Note the darker colors of the reiklander.

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>>169047603
Foot of Gork wiping out multuple elite (high mass) units

>>169047641
pretty good, but one question, is it possible to reverse the floppy hat color on wissenlanders? Make them stand out better if they have red hats with white trim opposed to Reikland dark red trim and white hat

>>169047603
Aoe+ debuffs.

You can also use night gobbo warlords as walking debuff since they give poison to whole army.

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>>169047431
Hochland boys looking /fa/

>>169047782
Preview of new foot of gork buff leaked from CA:
https://youtu.be/5pCL-gnRq_4

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>>169048000
Reminder

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>>169047562
here you go.
>>169047794
it's a function of their models/textures I think. yeah, it's a shame.
>>169047962
indeed they do.

>>169048529
delicious color scheme

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comparison of sylvania and stirland color schemes? thoughts and opinions?

>>169048529
So what's your end goal? All empire units have the colour scheme of the province they were recruited in?

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>>169049051
yes.
The difference between previous mods and my attempt is that it will be based on crysnos' modding framework.

>>169048529
>>169047794
I managed to "fix" the hats by reversing the color scheme. what do you guys think?

>>169049298
excellent, I think they stand out compared to Reikland now
comparison pic update?

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heres the situation lads

spanish destroyed one of my border guard armies and pushed in to siege Jenuenis
I formed 3 armies quickly and send them down and successfully relieved the city and have 1 full army guarding the bridge in
1 german army is besieging Mediolanium but it's a small force so I'll relieve it next, full legion guarding the northern mountain pass right now

Germans pushing in heavy at the north besieging Iuvavum and Oduba, I think they can hold out but I sent 1 legion up (with mostly quickly conscripted illyrian spearmen) but this force isn't really strong enough to fight them

Illiyrians are pushing in and besieging Bylazora , and 1 Macedonian army is at the bridge north of Tylis

Things are more complicated in the east where all the largest battles are, seleucids got about 20,000 men in anatolia fighting me but they're spread out

Germans and Spanish have maybe 20,000 guys if you combine all their armies, they're not too big of a threat despite the huge invasion

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>>169049298
>it will be based on crysnos' modding framework.
What does this mean?

>>169049398
You must conquer Jerusalem

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>>169049442
much more compatible with other mods. I use someone else's pfm instead of my own.
>>169049349
here you go.
And yes, they do stand out a little bit more.

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You guys think we will get Rudol von Stroheim Skaven thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ihIJ1UZAVk

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>>169049598
looks great anon

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Any more comparisons or units you guys wanna see?

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Just figured that I'd point out that Bundle Stars is having a 15% off sale on the DLC. It's not much, but it might just tingle your jew-senses just enough

>>169049808
sure anon

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here's a few ostland vs stirland comparisons.

>>169049940
name any two and I will jig them up for you.

>>169042109

And both love their moms

>>169050070
marien(((burg))) and Hochland

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>>169043826

>>169049808
Could you post Talabecland and Averland? They are both primarily yellow right?

>>169043826

zombie face

>>169050126
>There is now NO reason to play Mannlet von Cuntstein

Vlad Daddy is gonna smack you down, bitch boy.

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>>169049850
>browse the games
>The Elder Scrolls Online - Morrowind

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>>169050119
here you go.

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>>169050202
I'm going to keep using Mannlet

>>169050294
>20% replenishment rate factionwide on his DLC bitch boy
>not most broken thing in the game

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>>169050202
yes.
Yellow/red for talabec and Yellow/black for hochland.

>>169050375
Marien(((burg))) is blue and yellow? I thought that was nordlands colors

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>>169050576
nordland is closer to the viewer.

>>169050783
oh i see, a lighter shade of blue, see I thought Marienburg was a blue and white mix.

>>169050835
that's middenland.

again maybe try doing the color swap with nordland or marienburg? Kinda like Wissenland and Reikland
i'm just trying to help you make them stand apart anon, sorry if i'm annoying

>>169051062
meant for
>>169050783

>>169051062
ok yellow hats for marienburg coming up.

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>>169043036
>Dead memes

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>>169041136
What would you like to discuss anon? Possibly the destruction of wretched undead filth in the name of Viking Jesus---Eh I mean Sigmar Heldenhammer? Because I for one find the slaughter of the pitiful armies of Manfred the Manlet to be highly entertaining.

>>169051505
it's only dead if it isn't true

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Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - 9XDAQ-4VVYW-4D93M
Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - 9IWAG-T3IT4-M48M4
Shogun 2 Blood Pack - 9QZH7-5GH60-FHZ0V

>>169041371
Cannot happen soon enough. You're doing good work here dude.

>>169049605
Stromfiends would be great but I think they fall under End Times content, which CA seems to be avoiding.

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Post carpets. Here's a nice moorish one I just made.

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what should I fill the last two slots of my army with?
I'm thinking one hero and either another black coach mortis engine or unit of blood knights but cant decide which

also what are the pros of hexwraiths? they seem like a straight downgrade on blood knights instead of a sidegrade

>>169051937
At least we still get Hell Pit Abominations right? Right?

>>169052257
what the fuck is this meme army?
anyway, blood knights

>>169051831
Thanks for Shogun!

The Bretonnia update is almost perfect....

But no Battle standard bearer heroic unit makes me sad.

>>169042705
But that's a grail, not a jug.

>>169052519
I'm talking about the milk bags.

>>169052257
>Helmans face

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>>169052034

>>169052257
>that army
>no zombies or skeletons, just lots and lots of monsters
Please tell me this dumb bullshit isn't effective in multiplayer, I mean I don't bother with multi for this game at all, but the sheer stupid of that army composition burns me through my computer screen.

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>>169052034
A naked Gaulish carpet I just made.

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G O B L I N S

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Here's how the actual local recruitment building's gonna look.

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>>169052034
A nice mix of Prussian and British fibres in this carpet.

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>>169052034
Here, have a nice norscan fleshrug.

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>>169053159
fug anon I'm going to have a real hard time not building one of those in every province

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>>169053228
>playing as Perfidious Albion

>>169052995
Pokemon make the best carpets

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There are so many subtle references and allegories to Nietzschean philosophy in the Radious mod that so called "understanders" will never understand.
When people dismiss Radious and his works they're actually enabling him to ascend from his old self into the Übermensch of mod making, while they themselves indulge in slave morality represented by the authoritarian institutions known as "lore". Note how the lore is never represented by a single individual, only the faceless GW. The essence of slave morality (represented as "the lore" and "faction differences") is adherence to GW and rational game-design: The good is what is lore accurate, not strong and balanced units for everyone. CA does not see beyond this simple morality, but Radious does.
While decrying the mod, the "understander" will dismiss Black Orcs using bows. He does so out of misguided anger, furious that neither his faith in CA nor lore-knowledge has given him a game where he can do what he pleases with no restrictions on his choices, while the Radious mod can. At the same time, Black Orcs shooting at the sky symbolizes the death of GW (representing God) as a source of morality (lore) for the people. In understanding this one's belief is finally set free, and one can finally play a game where you have access to unlimited money and power.
With the Radious mod, the entire worldview based on slave morality is destroyed. He's destroying old thoughts such as lore. He's destroying assymetrical faction balance. He's destroying boring money limitations. He's destroying even his own reputation among the plebs as he overcomes his old self to become the over-man. In this destruction, a new idea of strategy games rises from the wreckage - the triumph of "balance" over "lore".
But if balance and money triumphs over "lore", the only meaning of the game is then the unrestricted will to power (money), and that means only the Übermensch will prosper. There can finally be true Total War.
Bravo Radious.

>>169052257
Might as well get the best units if you have the money

where did mod anon go?

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>>169052995
Alright, enough of this amateur hour bullshit.

>>169049605
Rats have the coolest units dont they

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>>169054093
And here's another.

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Swapped the marienburg color palette.
>>169053159
yeah, the agony of choice.

>>169054494
mant for >>169053614

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>>169054297
And I have no idea who these fuckers even were now, some random bunch of morons out in a desert somewhere.

AOR Anon pls come back

>Playing my first Legendary TWWH campaign
>playing as franz empire
>its actually going really well.
>Bretonnia survived and owns most of bretonnia proper and is now allied with me and sending stacks to help push back the chaos fucking shits
>Middenhiem is under siege, but franz is moving to reinforce, I just confederated boris and luckily the AI put his 14 levels in pretty decent spots.
>Chaos is fucking everwhere and volkmar just finished a war with the vampires that brought averland back into the fold, and killed like 8 waves of vampire stacks.

Sheeit, legendary actually feels better than I expected. but then Empire is alright.

Even when I lose a battle its amazing how fast you can recover. fuck I tried to minimize my save scumming but that's a hold over of trying to keep my favorite generals alive in historical titles. Its easy mode in TWWH without character death, but i'm more than fine with that.

>>169055189
I am here man. I am typing the unit names right now so that you can actually see what units you guys are recruiting.

>>169055310
cool bruh, post pics

>>169055394
What units do you want?
Infantry type and faction name.

>>169055506
well you left off with the merchant jews of secession, so post handgunners

>>169052331
>>169052756
>>169052597
zombies are useless chaff
skellies are poor combatants
grave guards are slow as hell
cairn wraiths 80% damage resistance is worse than having actual armour; ethereal units are surprisingly fleshy

VC infantry is terrible; for a faction with no artillery you really dont need it for anything but clashing with spearmen/halberdiers (and mostly I deal with them by dropping debuffs in front of a charge and casting raise dead on their flanks). Blitzkrieging is in your best interests

the 6 deadly doggos would be replaced with hexwraiths (purely for vanguard deployment) and blood knights but I dont feel like hitting my economy hard; this army should be more than enough to absolutely murder the AI anyway
besides that they're really good for running circles around the AI while the rest of your force is still en route and also the only real way the VC can deal with FUCKING PISTOLIERS
also I wanna try a meme strat with the +10 melee attack to fell bats/dire wolves ability and a strigoi ghoul king at some point

The flyers besides being excellent in general are for taking forts; you use the fell bats as ablative armour for the vargheists and drop them on every ranged unit holding the walls while your ground troops directly attack the gate (because no matter what your force composition having your entire ground army attack the gate at run speed breaks it faster than a battering ram when your army has no artillery and is safer than ladders)

And again can someone give me a quick rundown on hexwraiths? what is the usage of them, they seem kinda crappy for cost

>>169055248
legendary campaign difficulty is fine
but battle difficulty is AIDS

Honor is all.

>>169055634
my internet is kinda poor. I seem unable to upload any screenshots

>>169056201
>not roleplaying with lore friendly armies built around a core of standard units

>>169056384
it's everyone, not just you

>>169055248
Nordland Middenland and Ostland give the fattest stacks of cash; if you want to have to deal with Chaos constantly Kislev also gives fat stacks of cash and is incredibly easy to conquer as they get fucked by Varg much of the time

>>169056201
skeletons are okay, especially spears against large
grave guard are actually good
cairn wraiths are weird, slap a couple in to cause terror

I get the fast engagement concept and it'd be nice if it were viable(outside of singleplayer), but some circumstances the holding and staying power of infantry is necessary.
Infantry are also a fuck ton better when supported by a healing lore.

>>169056245
NO OBSTACEHL SHALL STAND BEFORE ME

>>169056458
ok. good to know.

tfw no Ancient Empires ;__;

WE ARE SIGMAR'S HEIRS

Once I takeover Sylvania as VC, should I head west or north

>>169056384
it's 4chins, not you. just try to post it when you can

With Bretonnia coming soon, I hope we get something with the red duke either as a LL for Vampire Counts or like an alternate Vampire start. Blood Dragons vs Grail knights sounds fun tb h.

>>169056901
gives me more time to work on the mod.

>>169056963
>alternate Vampire start

I think theyve split VC in half with Manlets side and then a separate Von Carstein faction

>>169057145
They have.

>>169056507
my experience with grave guards has been that they're only ever useful if vlad is vanguard deploying them because they're just too damn slow; they're good in the actual melee but getting them there without suffering massive losses from artillery fire is painful; surgical strikes on artillery are necessary and can be risky with terrogheists because they're slow to take off; or impossible with vargheists because they evaporate under mass archer fire

>>169056762
taking Bechafen and moving on to Kislev gets you a lot of money if you conquer all of Kislev's territory (Troll country, Northern Oblast, Eastern Oblast, Southern Oblast) and also gives easy access to Vlad's sword quest objectives; but it does come with the drawback of being on Chaos' doorstep and being the first guy to know about the horde

taking empire territories usually makes the empire confederate much earlier; I'll take one territory in any given empire territory and the rest of that territory will confederate

>>169057145
Yes, they just stuck Vlad and Isabella where schwartzhafen used to be

Who will be the Lizardmen LLs? Lord Kroak?

>VC getting more LL
>Empire only have 3
Well, 2, since Balthazar is fucking useless.

>>169057516
Gelt has the best speeches though

>>169057516
Will Sigmar eventually be a LL?

>>169057651
Please no

FUCK OFF HIROMOOT
FIX IMAGES N O W

>>169057145
>Vlad gets a special combat animation against Manlet where he puts his hand against Manfreds forehead whos swinging wildly to hold him back
when will they learn?

>>169057502
Well, going by previous examples it seems like CA wants to have a balance between melee focused LL's and Mage ones. So I'm guessing we're going to have Kroq-Gar as a melee Lord, and either Kroak or Lord Mazdamundi as the mage. We could get both, but that is dependent on how many they want on release.

As I much as I like Kroak, I really do like the idea of a Stegadon riding Lord.

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if CA takes a different approach with the second game. Instead of just sticking with 4 main races like they did with Vanilla, I think they will go the Bretonnia approach. Giving the Lord's their own subfactions.

>>169041079
What DLC in Warhammer is the most worth it, of any of them?

>>169058387
>Orion gets fun stabby animation
>Wood Elf generic Lords get fancy kill animations
>Wood Elf waifu units also get nice animations
>Archaon, Vlad, and all the other humanoid Legenday Lords still fight like Empire Swordsmen

I know I shouldn't be expecting much, but I'd at least like them to get a unique kill animation or two. Like I don't know, Vlad picking up a poor sod and chomping on his neck. It's just kind of a bummer seeing the legendary characters that aren't monstrous in some way not really feeling that unique on the battlefield.

>>169058515
King and the Warlod is what most people would say is the most worthwhile. Wood Elves are fun to play in my opinion, but that's because I love Tree Hitler.

Grim and the Grave is kind of decent, but not the best. Chaos and Beastmen are somewhat meh, though I do enjoy using Beastmen units. As for Blood for the Blood God, same as with any blood DLC. Get it if you want it, ignore it if you don't care about that.

Personally I bought it just because undead units can lose a limb or a head and keep fighting. Which I thought was a fun touch.

>>169058515
King and the Warlord and Grim and the Grave both add extra lords and units; as well as regiments of renown

none of the DLC is really worth it for the asking price though; I'd only give $2-4 for the two I've listed and they're priced at $8

>>169058515
The King and the Warlord is probably the most bang for your buck. Wood Elves is all right, the campaign with it is actually enjoyable.

Beastmen is probably the worst so I wouldn't bother unless you really want to play as the Beastmen.

>>169057439
No artillery can out-perform infantry in cost-effectiveness unless it is allowed to fire for far longer than any player will allow.
AI doesn't use that much artillery either.

>>169057502
Lord Mazdamundi is their primary lord.
Krogq'gar for being biggest melee lad and biggest mount.
Tehenhauin is a close third because as we most likely won't have daemons, the Lizardmen will be mostly fighting Skaven.

Kroak is cool but not really a leader ever since he nuked himself and was reduced to a ghost haunting his corpse.
No way CA will make a satisfying Deliverance of Itza either.

>>169058401
Yeah somebody down south to deal with Skaven and Mazdamundi up north to interfere with others.

>>169058515
Blood if you want blood.
Grim and the Grave if you really, really like Empire and Vampires. It's probably the weakest DLC.
King(Beggar) and the Warlord if you like Greenskins and/or Stunties. Markedly better than the previous RoR DLC because it adds legitimately interesting and challenging start locations to the game.

The race packs depending on what race you like
Considerations are that the Beastmen have the best horde campaign CA have done, and the Warriors of Chaos campaign is probably the worst in the game right now.
Also do note that if you have any excitement ANY enthusiasm towards a mini-campaign then you will be disappointed.

>>169058793
Vlad only drinks blood through his sword anon.

>get error upload failed whenever I try to upload pics now

anyone else? Trying to show off my recent campaign pics

>>169059339
Scroll up a couple of posts.

>>169059339
Yup, image uploading is kill
Hopefully it's just the servers shitting out instead of Hiro going full jew

>>169057624
Right? Gelt is a great character for his voice alone honestly, it's just a shame he doesn't perform as fucking well on the battlefield. I would use him all the damn time if it wasn't for that fact.

>>169058515
Speaking of the DLC, we're not expecting any more paid DLC until the next game right? And there should be an announcement for that relatively soon.

At least judging by the FLC chart, there's only one thing left, which I assume is going to be released in March. So either they are suddenly going to announce an extension of the FLC schedule. Or we're going to start seeing info for the next game.

At least, I hope that is the case since even a few weeks wait for info is fucking torture in these threads. What do you guys think?

I just started my first Charlemagne campaign and I'm thoroughly confused.
I have a province in which there is one fishing port that produces 60 food, a manor that consumes 10 and yet the total food for the provice is only 3.
What is going on?

>beat our 20 dollar dlc mini-campaigns to unlock the best vampire count lord
>buy dlc to get the most powerful and meta-compliant units
:(

Should I start with maxing out global new recruit experience with Grombrindal or does it not help as much as it might seem?

>>169059682
That's the plan
I wouldnt be surprised if they shit out another set of regiments for the DLC factions to keep us busy until the next game

>>169059864
>playing total war for the MP
don't do that

>>169059864
>beat our 20 dollar dlc mini-campaigns to unlock the best vampire count lord

what are you talking about here? the only unlocks I know of are boris and sarthaeral

Well, the AoR system is working perfectly. Wish I could show a campaign screenshot to you guys.

>>169060035
Finishing the wood elf mini campaign gets you the red duke for multiplayer games

>>169041910
Well I don't know about Franz, but over in Bretonnia the tax system is actually quite simple.

>>169041079
Is there a way to change campaign difficulty during a partially completed campaign? Like a variable to adjust in an ini or something.

>>169061723
Actual campaign difficulty I'm pretty sure no.
Battle difficulty yes and no.
Yes in that there is always a slider available that does that.
No in that it is bugged at the moment and doesn't work.

so how is multiplayer in warhammer?
I watched some turin videos to get a feel for it but that alt-f4ing vampire count rly put a bad taste in my mouth

Ask someone who's completed every long campaign but FUCKING Wood Elves on Legendary anything

>>169041910
Considering Warhammer is more or less low fantasy just like ASOIAF (for the majority of the people of the Old World) this meme doesn't work.

>>169062964

Why are you such a no talent scrub to still have an incomplete legendary campaign?

>>169063019

>Considering Warhammer is more or less low fantasy just like ASOIAF

That's completely fucking wrong, what are you even on about.

There's a Wizard's tower in practically every major settlement, Altdorf alone houses many dozens of Wizards, most of the Empire is located in or around dense, beastmen infested forest.

Grimy and gritty =/= Low Fantasy.

>>169059891
Please respond.

>>169062964
Why haven't you finished it with Wood Elves yet?

>>169062681
It's okay.
Customs are going to be more fun but quick match is good enough.

Predominately the meta stands on two pillars, assassination and deathstar.

Best strategy is to outlast the entire enemy army by boosting your own force through good drafting and lore of life/lore of vampires.
Because characters are important to this, you can usually only beat it if you get like four high damage flying units and take out each of the important enemy characters(general, runesmith, jade wizard etc.)

Empire has always been the strongest, primarily out of cost-effectiveness and good lords/heroes.
VC might even be stronger right now with raise dead as obscene as it is presently.
Those two factions have always been on top.

Greenskins are the most balanced at the moment IMO.
You can fuck up and get chain routed and none of your options are too broken. Though there is an over-reliance on Black Orcs and a LOT of your roster is garbage.

Stunties are unviable unless you take a runelord or and three runesmiths, which makes them pretty strong.

Beastmen are three gorebulls plus morghur every game. Not terrible but very boring.

Chaos has to play the assassination game because they can't sustain or win on cost effectiveness.
They do this with either Kholek + Shaggoths squad, or Chaos Dragon + manticore squad.

Welves primarily do treekin eternal guard lore of life deathstar, but that can still be effective while mixing in a FEW other fun units.

>>169059891
>>169063393
Its not that important when you have access to experience through technology and buildings. Pick it up if you have it easily available but focus on buffing Grombrindal's own stats or army bonuses

>>169063660
saved n ty

>Gelt goes on his quest to stop Kholek suneater
>While Kholek is sieging middenhiem.

Oh gelt.

>>169063293
>most of the Empire is located in or around dense, beastmen infested forest.

To be fair having monstrous non-human sentients doesn't make it high fantasy

>>169064775
I think having any sentient non-humans is high fantasy, let alone monstrous.

>>169064451

"Gentlemen, welcome to Estalia!"

>Heavy snows and dire landscape of Norsca country

"Wait, who has the map?"

>>169064775

>Monstrous non-humans a constant threat to human life
>Both major Human civilizations are heavily and openly reliant on magic for both military and civil pursuits, with even the smallest village usually having a local hedge-mage or cunning woman, if not an actual college-sanctioned Wizard's tower or Damsel-equipped abbey
>Friendly non-human traders and envoys are a common sight
>The world-threatening evil in the North is well-known by everyone and preached against directly by the church, rather than being an old-wives tale most people dismiss
>Fucking manrats living in the severs

Warhammer Fantasy isn't "Low fantasy" in any fucking way, not even for the small, ordinary people.

>>169065573
>Fucking manrats living in the severs
???
what did he mean by this

there are no manrats in the empire

>>169041079
Does it bother anyone else that there are no years or seasons in Warhammer, it's literally just defined by number of turns and that's it

>>169064849
Do you consider ASOIAF high fantasy, then?

>>169066296
Shit fantasy is a more apt description.

>singelhandedly stem the tide of chaos
>lose 75% of my standing army and drop from strength rank 1 to 4
>dwarves and empire dow me not one fucking turn afterwards

and they call themselves honorable

>>169066164
The actual Empire date system is retarded and complex, so they'd probably do it by season. CA probably figured you got enough special features as it is and removed the seasons

>>169066296

Not him but ASIOAF starts off as low fantasy and then it slowly adds high fantasy elements as magic is re-introduced to the world. I'd still call it low fantasy overall.

>>169066164
This is a GW game, can't be advancing the timeline

Griffins are for cuddles

>>169066296
Let me correct and say then, any sentient non-humans as a common thing.

IAF you have to go to the far reaches of the world to even have a chance at ever maybe seeing anything non-human.

Warhammer, you can walk down the street and see an Elf and a Dwarf, and head out past the fields and see a minotaur.

>>169066469
Who cares? The world is obliterated in canon, Age of Skubmar is where it's at

>>169066543
Never heard of it

What is recommended for R2 nowadays, mods wise ?

I feel like removing barbarians.

>>169066601
>What is recommended for R2 nowadays
upgrading to Attila

who's baby's first warhammer faction?

>>169066778
Dorfs, no magic, no anviling, just pure stubboness and holding your ground.

>>169066778

Dwarfs

>>169066778
dwarfs especially with noob box.

But the problem with dwarves is that it doesn't teach you about cavalry.

Dwarfs
Vampire counts
Empire
Orcs

In that order.

>>169066778

Dorfs, used to be empire too but since beastmen and wood elves humans are hard.

>>169066910
>noob box
What's that?

R8 my formations /twg/
X= infantry
~=Cavalry
{=Ranged
8=Skirmishers

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>>169066961
Go to the very corner of the map and cover both flanks. You're untouchable until you get out-artillery or nuked by magic (which they already have resistance to)

6 more days until we can REJOICE

>>169067052
why are you so heavy on the left flank?

>>169067052

This shit doesn't work with 4chan's formatting mon ami

>>169067052

R8 my formation

& = Lumenark

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>>169066910
so they have no cavalry? how are you supposed to chase routers and stuff then

>>169067086

>He didn't sign up for TOTAL ACCESS

5 more days until REJOICE

Do we know what the background picture for the bretonnia update will be?

>>169067309

>how are you supposed to chase routers and stuff then

You can't and you don't.

>>169067309
shoot them as they run away

>>169067338
Total Access lets you join 1 day earlier? How do I make sure of that? I just sign up?

>>169067178
I'm employing the early pike-and-shot Swiss tactic where you have a heavy forward flank
My post just got fucked up with spacing

>>169067401

>Total Access lets you join 1 day earlier?

They said so at least.

>How do I make sure of that? I just sign up?

I guess so, they didn't say you had to do anything else

>>169067309
Shoot them with artillery, shoot them with gun, Shoot them with flame throwers, Use attack helicopters, Use your (fast for a dwarf) units that can actually catch enemy infantry.

You think they would move-on to Dark Souls for the next fantasy setting after Warhammer? I mean Lord of the Ring's pretty damn overused by now with mods for them in practically every engine and there isn't a recent fantasy/medieval setting that is still popular. Plus, Sega did do collaborations with Scamco before. I would like to see them experiment with smaller scales and more personal armies like Kingdom Under Fire where you have at most half-dozen units and their captains are all semi-permanent.

>>169067447
DELETE THIS

>>169067052
oh hey if I get to fight you I am gonna stick to your right flank

>>169067348
The Lady of the Lake's human tits bouncing while she rides King Louen, her husband.

>>169067461

>You think they would move-on to Dark Souls for the next fantasy setting after Warhammer?

What the fuck

I've heard a lot of stupid ideas for Total War settings but this is some new shit.

>I would like to see them experiment with smaller scales and more personal armies like Kingdom Under Fire where you have at most half-dozen units and their captains are all semi-permanent.

It's very nice that you would "like that", unfortunately that isn't what Total War is.

>>169067536
baited :^)
>gaugamela.jpg

>>169067461
No, we'll get Touhou Total War.

>>169041136
If you want to stomp people you have to use your feet

>>169067412
I know. I was bullying.

>Playing Empire legendary.
>confederated with middenheim.
>Karl franz goes down fighting archaon. although Franz is wounded Archaons force is dispersed and elite units defeated.
>Boris fights off Kholek while using the reinforcements from middenheim before he has to retreat for his own losses.
>Middenhiem is alone
>Sarthoreal attacks it
>Bretonnia rides to my aid while both my armies in the region where regrouping, They attack Sarthoreal in force leaving him greatly weaked so that boris can ride out from middenhiem with his meager force and eliminate the demon.
>That ends the Chaos invasion.

Pretty good stuff. Thanks bretonnia, I'm glad you survived this game. Can't wait till next week. Even in this campaign I couldn't escape. I guess. now its rebuilding. which will be tough since I accidentally got into a war with the vampire counts at the same time and its not going nearly as well.

>>169067805
>Bretonnia rides to my aid

Rejoice!

>>169066778
Stunties for TW.
High Elves for TT.
After the expansion it'll be High Elves as well.

Can't wait to start a new campaign next week. Haven't done a grand campaign since King & Warlord came out.

Now the question is whether or not I'm going to use some mods.

Do you guys use the Steel and Faith mod?
It kinda seems to me that money is laughably irrelevant out of the early game.

>green knight returns from god knows where after having disappeared for hundreds of years
>kills a Vargheist then disappears again

>>169069026
>Yfw you realize that the Green Knight is essentially just skull knight.

>>169066601
>>169066748
I just finished an Attila campaign, need a change

>>169069026
He's kind of like Grombrindal, he comes and goes during times of need, either for the whole nation, or individuals, depending on the worthiness as determined by the Lady.

>tl;dr when he's not fucking the Lady, he throws on a suit of armor and rides out at random to help people on her checklist

>>169069026
Maybe Alberic is worth it.

>>169069505
Ah yes the Lady and the Green Knight are different people yes surely hmm hmm

>>169069505
>Lileath spreading her legs for anyone other than Jamalindil

>>169070062
The Green Knight is her bit on the side.

>>169070306
No, he is her husband(platonic)

When a Grail Knight dies, his Grail Pilgrims usually rush to collect his belongings, in order to obtain a small piece of his holiness. Problem is, sometimes the Grail Knight is not dead, merely extremely wounded and unconscious. In this case, his pilgrims accidentally trample him to death in their religious fervor.

TOP KEK

>>169070510

delete zis

>>169070510
>religious fervor

>>169069026
>tfw TW:W won't advance to the point where I can unite bretonnia under the once and future king

>>169070510
based pilgrims

>>169069026
>>169069505
why doesn't Sigmar do that more for the Empire?

>>169070720

There literally is a tech called "United Bretonnia" in the game

>>169070776

Because he's a strong, independent barbarian who needs no phony elf gods blessing.

>>169070798
>under the once and future king

I want to do it under fantasy king Arthur dammit, gimme muh Gilles.

>>169070510
So this is the power of the Lady's Blessing...

>>169070896

>I want to do it under fantasy king Arthur dammit, gimme muh Gilles.

What's the point? Everyone dies anyway

>>169071051
Because they could not do it that way. They presumably have the power.

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>>169067805
Love campaigns like this. If I can't ally I go out of my way to confederate, trying to leave their capital to them. Makes the hordes of Chaos campaigns a lot more fun when you're not the only one throwing your men into the grinder.
I've had one vassal declaring war bringing my delicate collection of vassals into civil wars in the middle of Arch's crusades which I suppose fits the setting. It's always fucking Nuln too. I bet it's that bitch elector countess.

>>169070510
I know it won't be in game, but I'd love to see a grail reliquae where the knight isn't actually dead and the peasants just think he is. Like either he's just comatose from an injury, or he's nearly dead or dying and constantly like "H-Hey guys I'm still alive, can I get some help here? Maybe a doctor?" and the pilgrims just think it's the blessing of the Lady and holy power that the dead knight still speaks to them and hasn't decayed away.

Maybe a regiment of renown?

>>169067805
>Boris fights off Kholek
Is this an actual thing in the grand campaign?
I've done 3 campaigns and never once seen Sigvald or Kholek leading any chaos armies. Just Archaon, big bird and a bunch of literal whos.

>>169072736
I get all four with their own stacks during the final phase of the chaos armies. I remember because I got into a 8 stack brawl as VC, with four of mine taking on all four of them at once.

This was back when the reinforcement system was still broken, so after the first stacks beat the fuck out of eachother, it became a disorganized brawl.

>>169070776
Because Sigmar is, depending on your interpretation of the lore, an actual god so isn't able to just come down and start traipsing around in person to help people. Instead, he can manage to shine his favor/blessing down upon the righteous and the needy.

It's the same with the Lady really, how for the most part she shines down favor rather than manifesting in person to go and blast undead or beastmen. The only time she shows up herself is to grail knights at the end of their quest to give them the chalice, but even then it's a little sketchy if that's the literal case or just a vision the knight has, and at best even if it is her it's only to one person and in a very simple capacity; she just congratulates them and lets them drink from the chalice. She's not showing up in battle to fight, or in a disaster to save lives.

The difference though is that unlike Sigmar, the Lady has her own physical intermediary in the Green Knight who can act on her behalf, basically a middle man that Sigmar lacks. So the Green Knight can physically show up to do the heavy duty lifting in the physical world like turning the tides of battle, when normally a god couldn't personally do that.

This of course changes in the End Times when Sigmar as I recall gets his own physical intermediary, in the form of Valten.

So what are some /twg/ memes that CA recognized and/or did something with?

Some recent ones to mind,

>AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>REJOICE

>>169072852

>cause Sigmar is, depending on your interpretation of the lore, an actual god so isn't able to just come down and start traipsing around in person to help people


It's funny because he does this in end times.

>>169072927
The only one there that might be a bit suspect is the AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
seeing as REJOICE is part of the peasant's duty anyway

>>169072852
>This of course changes in the End Times when Sigmar as I recall gets his own physical intermediary, in the form of Valten.
Sigmar was trapped by Tzeentch, when Lileath (Lady of Lake) broke magical Vortex freeing all warp powers into world he went free and possessed dying Karl Franz.

>>169072943
pic uploads still failing. Feels bad man.

And no, warrior priests do miracles that alone prove that sigmar is a god.
Luthor Huss bashes a shadow gave fucking shit in with his hammer, something grailets dream about doing.

>>169072989
>seeing as REJOICE is part of the peasant's duty anyway

Of course, all part of the lore, but they made a choice to include it in the trailer and we all know why. REJOICE poster had his day.

Also as I recall, didn't Welf poster get a possible nod in the Welf trailer?

>>169056458
>>169056901

I-is 4chan breaking?

>>169072943
Right but that's the End Times, by then all bets are off.

>>169073108

>And no, warrior priests do miracles that alone prove that sigmar is a god.


Someone should have told Archaon.

Also, what the fuck even is his motivation? He gets asshurt that Sigmar didn't show him a sign and he hates his fate and the chaos gods so much that to get back at them he does literally everything they want him to do. How does that make any god damn sense?

>>169053159
>>169054494

What are all those other buildings like the road?

When the fuck are they going to reveal old friend. I am going to fucking shit if it's some trash character no one gives a HECK about.

hello
is anyone here
?>>169073403
it's from my mod here.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533

It adds a bunch of rome 2/attila style building options to the empire because I found the base game's campaign too lacking when playing as the empire.

>>169073424
We all know who it is, revealing it isn't necessary beyond showing when the release date is.

>>169073494
>We all know who it is

Who
h
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We still alive?

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FORTY FUCKING MINUTES

Nuke the nips, race war now!

Soooo, is too rapid an expansion a bad thing? I've confederated twice by this time, and though the penalty wore off, I fucked up my relationship with most other Elector Cunts and some dwarfs as well, purely due to confederating. Now I'm not sure if two-region Nordland is even worth werecking my relationship with few remaining allies...

Plus internal problems... I'm not sure a few new towns are worth dealing with longer borders, chaos vampiric corruption, public order, upkeep on new armies, not even counting the cost of actually developing the new towns...

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>>169073537

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>>169074595

>more dwarfs

>>169074595
are there shieldbearers in TWWH, by the way?

>>169074654
Yes, for Thorgrim Grudgebearer and any Runelord on an Anvil of Doom. There are no actual standing-on-a-shield shieldbearers, though.

Daily reminder that Sigmar was a filthy barbarian and probably a Norscan too.

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I'm not a big fan of warhams but i'm kinda looking forward to brets

>>169073907
>>169073919
Lizardmen when?

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>>169074828
5 days until BASED BRETONNIA!
for those who have a Total War Access account

>>169074918

Hopefully never. What a shit faction

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>tfw you send thousands of men to their deaths

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>>169074918
I-m the only amazed that we-ll be able to play with dinosaurs riding dinosaurs in a total war game? and I'm not even a warhammer fan.


How do they reproduce? what is their endgame?

please redpill me about jurassic park, the faction

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>>169067052

>>169075048
>how do they reproduce
they get spawned from magic pools
>what is their endgame
they want to be left the fuck alone and REEEE GET OUT to anyone coming to their land

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>>169075009
Small time.

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>>169075123

>>169075141
>they want to be left the fuck alone and REEEE GET OUT to anyone coming to their land
just like Wood Elves... WHO KEEP CONQUERING HALF THE MAP WHEN YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THEM FOR A MOMENT, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

>>169075154

Italy was a mistake.

why do Brets have such horrible facial hair? it's disgusting.

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>start up grand campaign as beastyboys
>Woold Elves assassinate Khazrak on turn 3

>>169075317
just like their real counterpart, Frenchcucks

>>169075048
Lizardmen were created by an ancient space faring race called the old ones and their purpose is basically to help terraform the planet for the old ones. But then chaos poured into the war hammer world and cut the old ones off, the lizardmen still try to go about terraforming, killing races that aren't apart of the PLAN.

The lizardmen function more like an ant colony excepts their saurs and skinks spawn out of pools. Their leaders are giant, fat, magic frogs, that have been alive since their race was created. No new slann can be created.

>>169075196
He is proposing an Empire strategy against Beastmen AI.

A strategy where you take no melee infantry, and instead use cheap cav to fuck with the bulk of their AI units, while firing upon them with ranged units.

Also shown in the diagram is a secondary unit of melee cav that are to be sent in to take out their ranged units.

No idea if it actually works.

>>169074954
When you're done, any chance you could see if it's possible to dig out the different wood elf schemes from the season of revelation campaign? Just for pics, not a mod. It seems CA may have made a load of different outfits for the different glades, but you never see them unless you try and conquer everywhere instead of confederating (and that's tricky with the beastmen spawning stacks out of nowhere).