/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General

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>>169028709
Carried over from last thread:
You want action? Do this fucking train wreck justice.

>No Mania special edition for PC in UK
Mememan pls I don't want a console

Do you like the Homing Attack, /sthg/?

>>169029257
Yes, yes I do. It feels satisfying in basically every game it's in.


Despite how mediocre the game was as a whole, I think the homing attack felt the best in Lost World, especially since you could now chain it across rows of enemies. I kept playing that one level with the honeycombs just because it was so satisfying.

>>169029257
keep it out of 2D
needed for 3D

lost world fucked it up.

Fast?

>>169029448
Slow.

>>169028709

Something action related? I'd like to see a short sequence of an Amy & Blaze team wrecking robots.

>>169029257
I'd like it if it actually preserved momentum instead of being a glorified "I win" button, not to mention it led to the fucking retarded level design staple of putting a bunch of enemies in a row over a bottomless pit for the sole purpose of making the player homing attack them.

>>169029213
I've just pre-ordered it from US Amazon.
That reminds me though, when does it come out again? Need to make sure I've actually got the funds to pay for it...

>>169029257
Yeah.

>>169029354
>homing attack felt the best in Lost World, especially since you could now chain it across rows of enemies
You can easily chain homing attacks in almost every game that has homing attacks.

>>169029443
>keep it out of 2D
I don't mind it, especially if it's an optional thing like for Classic Sonic in Generations.
>needed for 3D
Yes.
>lost world fucked it up
Double Yes.

>>169029920
I hate the bottomless pit thing but I feel it works if the line of enemies just leads to an alternate path and if you fuck up you have to take the bottom path.

>>169030151
>optional thing
I can live with that.

>>169029257
I feel that if a platforming game requires the player to have a dedicated button simply to home in on an enemy, it's fucked up at least one of its controls, physics or enemy design somehow. Sonic is the only major platformer I can think of off the top of my head that has such an attack. Sure Sonic's supposed to be faster, but it's also supposed to be a platformer first. So even though I can understand why it exists, I would prefer to have a 3D Sonic game that doesn't need it. Maybe make it an optional thing like in 3D Blast.

>>169029110
the city invasion bit or the rouge vs bunnie fight?

>>169029257
Yes

>>169029110
So this is the green Knuckles I've heard so much about.

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What issue was this from?

Let's say that the first season of Sonic X is adaptated into the games universe, taking place before Sonic Adventure, with some slight alterations such as the two-worlds thing being changed to Station Square existing inside it's own 'bubble' that separates it from the rest of the world, and Cream&Cheese and Rouge aren't around yet, but Chris still exists (hopefully with better writing or characterization or whatever).

The first half of the first episode is the opening cutscene, and the rest of the episode is the first level, Speed Highway, with a rival race against Sam Speed.

The true final boss is Super Sonic versus "Egg Fort II" or whatever it was called, and the ending is Super Sonic using the emeralds' power to break the 'barrier' around Station Square, opening it up to the Mystic Ruins and the rest of the world, and Sonic goes off on a solo adventure before returning in Sonic Adventure.

How would the rest of the game be?

>>169032030
Nope, that's not it
>>169033827
262 I think. Do not quote me on that. I know it's the backup before Cassia and Clove's debut.\
>>169032030
Nope. That's earlier, but it goes on for fucking ever. You thought Unleashed was long? Green Knuckles just never fucking ends, and then it doesn't even end up mattering for shit.
>>169029257
I like it in 3D, but keep it out of 2D. Also, making it required to traverse bottomless pits is fucking stupid, almost as bad as pitting pits below ring trails

>>169034023
Alright I'm just going to go through the whole Unleashed arch then.

>>169034164
Just read the whole reboot while you're at it, since that's like 90% of the reboot at this point in time

>>169034019
>Let's say that the first season of Sonic X is adaptated into the games universe
Stopped reading there.

>>169034019
>Let's say that the first season of Sonic X is adaptated into the games universe
>How would the rest of the game be?
Shit.

>>169034225
So like at 251 then? What issue do I start with for Universe then?

>>169034354
Issue 55.

>>169034354
252 for main, 55 for Universe.

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>>169034414
>>169034442
Alright time for me to re-read this stuff again. Thanks.

https://youtu.be/-EZW7niXovA
https://youtu.be/pAOaM2mP7fg

>>169034558
np anon.

I liked Nicole's old hologram design better.

>>169029257
only in SA1 and SA2

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>>169034754
I like her new one more because it's less revealing also tight pants.

>>169034624
wow

That's really shit

>>169035061
>Expect Archie adaptation from the name
>It isn't

>>169034754
Her new design is still my least favorite

>>169035019
I feel like they overdid it with the new design. The old one was more simple.

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>>169035206
The dress was alright.

>>169028896
Nice image.

>>169035061
How is it shit? It seems decent.

>>169035338
Don't kid yourself, the animation is stiff and the voice acting is awful

>>169029213
We really need to ask him what's the meaning of this retardation.

>>169035424
So just like the games then

>>169035470
Neck yourself

>>169028709
Ouch, survive anon pls

>>169035563
I love the games, but the voice acting has never been good outside of Eggman

>>169035470
Adventure 1 & 2 had the best voice acting. It's just too ahead of it's time for everyone to understand it. Just wait 80 years, it's going to be giga-kino for that acting.

Man I can't wait for SXSW. Can't happen soon enough.

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>>169035019
I used to be all for old outfit but I agree in liking the new design, a lot more aesthetically pleasing and fitting of an AI.

I do miss the shit out of her hair beads though.

>>169035665
They'll probably just give out some minuscule breadcrumbs and tell us to keep waiting.

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>>169035779
Yeah her new outfit does look fitting for her.

>>169035898
>The last one

lmao

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Believe me, I am not the type of person to wear "gay goggles" for fucking everything, but all the emphasis on Sally and Nicole's dynamic in the reboot and its nature makes me feel like they're being slowly and subtlely set up to be a couple. Maybe it's just me trying to fill holes like a loser since Sonally and Sharcole aren't a thing anymore, but it actually feels like that's the direction they're leaning towards.

I don't really mind though, they look really cute together for one

>>169034624
>23rd June 2017
Wow, I'm surprised I didn't catch wind of this before.

Anyway, I was expecting much worse. The older video isn't half bad, even if it isn't that well written.

>>169036331
It will be weird if there was some plot point where they find a way to make Nicole real.

>>169035206
It was also not fitting at all and made no sense logically.

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>Sonic I need your help to defeat Sonic Black in the future

>>169036331
I think Ian said on his podcast he had considered doing just that, and that Archie / Sega would be cool with it, but he thought there would be massive fan backlash because of all the Sonally baggage. I like the idea, personally.

>>169036331
Well Ian has said that he isn't exactly opposed to the idea. Then again he said he'd never touch LGBT themes with a 10 foot pole, but views change over time. I'm okay with the idea, because it's pretty in character for both of them.

>>169036749
>but he thought there would be massive fan backlash because of all the Sonally baggage.
Tbh most, if not all responses I've seen to the idea of it happening have been fairly positive.

>>169036331
I would rather shipping be left to the fans and not touched in official media. Implying it like with Sonamy is mostly okay, though.

>>169036331
It's not happening, anon. Ian hasn't been big on shipping in general anymore, Sonally still has a foothold in the fanbase, and he made comments on not feeling the comic book was the best place to address LGBT stuff.

Honestly, I hope they don't anyway. The book should stay away from romance and definitely don't need two couples in the main group.

>>169037083
I think it could work if it was mostly implied, like the comic never made a super big deal about it. It's not the best idea but if you really wanted it in, handling it with class would be the way to go

Wasn't there some answer in one of the fan questions in one of the issues saying Nicole has no romantic interest in anyone?

>>169036749
He should be thinking of the backlash of arbitrarily putting in gay shit or sexuality in general in this comic. Serious romance in Sonic always ends up cringe. Always.
But he's writing Jughead now so he can unleash those ideas on that comic. Not like it hasn't seen worse from what I've heard.
>>169036848
>in character for both of them
Since when does being friends naturally progress into lesbianism? Why is this a thing?

>>169036749
I don´t think they nescessarily should go ALL out lezzing, but more interaction is always nice.

nothing against some hot cat/squirrel action tho

>>169037165
I'd rather it just be left as is. Fans do enough shipping for themselves anyway.

>>169036652
>comparing trunks to this dork.

>>169037225
>Since when does being friends naturally progress into lesbianism? Why is this a thing?

This

If real life was fiction, then about 90% of the females I know would be pegged as potential lesbian or 'they're just hiding it but they're obviously lesbian' by readers such as yourselves.

>>169037225
>Since when does being friends naturally progress into lesbianism? Why is this a thing?
I meant moreso in that Nicole and Sally are so close that I could buy them being a thing.
Also friends turning to lovers is more common than you'd think. Kind of happened to me. And again
>>169037361
That is also a viable option, and probably a better one. But hey, always fun to speculate

>>169037480
>90% of the females I know would be pegged

>>169037219
I remember the answer was some pun about Nicole only loving her motherboard.

>>169037636
>Motherboard
MILF Nicole when?

>>169037628
You're sharp, I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that.

>>169037526
>so close that I could buy it
It would still come out of nowhere. The only thing stopping people wanting Sally and Bunnie to lez out is the fact that Bunnie's married and they're just as close as Sally and Nicole, if interactions pre-reboot still happened off-panel.

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>>169037676
She can modify her body any type she wants.

>>169037904
Why is Gala-Na always described as being the most busty/curvy?

I mean, this series has fucking Madonna in it.

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>>169035779
Brown fur Nicole is better than light-brown fur.

>>169036331
I'm not going to tiptoe with my post, and say I'm against this idea purely because I don't want homosexuality in my Sonic, especially lesbians since they've been inserted into enough media already.

>>169038045
Because the one time we got a full shot of her she was stacked with doujin-tier child-bearing hips. Madonna isn't canon to anything.

>>169038171
ACtually we got 2 shots and she was crazy stacked, like beyond Rouge tier. It was fucking crazy

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>tfw the Sonic LW Zelda level was based off OOT and not WW

>>169038171
I know the image you're going to post, and all I'll say is that's barely anything to shout about. I mean it's like you've never seen Rouge

>>169036331
Can't really say I'm for it since I ship them with different characters. Simple as that.

>>169038286
Rouge got her tits nerfed after SA2 and Gala-Na is bigger if we compared the two drawn by the same artist. But in the end she was just another character that showed up and disappeared just like the snake bounty hunter.

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>>169037904
>Nicole has been secretely scanning and digitally modeling the bodies of the women she meets so she can later try them on for size

>>169037479
Isn't he literally based off of Trunks?

>>169037479
>comparing Silver to that dork
ftfy
>>169038532
Yup.

>>169038452
I still don't see what the fuss is.

>>169038550
>>169037839
Fucking cute!

>>169038532
>Comparing Trunks to that dork

>>169038550
Amy a cute!

CUTE!

>>169036652
>Sonic Black
>Looks just like Sonic except his shoes and gloves are black. And he turns pink when he goes super.

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>>169038494
>And everyday she changes her appearance slightly and people don't notice for awhile.

>>169038670
The pre-reboot had a lot of those.

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>>169038550

>>169038670
Then you're probably not a tit man.

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>>169038746
Why is Silver such a cutie?

>>169038712
My personal opinion is that Goku Black is the TRUE Shadow of Dragon Ball Z.

...

Or Metal Sonic.

But I don't watch DBZ, so IDK

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>>169038746

>>169038746
If Amy fell really hard for Sonic while having such a bad sight, what would her reaction be to seeing how actually cute he is?

>>169038964
Amy with glasses is adorable.

>>169039029
Anime nosebleed, then faint.

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>>169038086
That's fair, I respect your ability to present such a controversial opinion honestly in a non-antagonizing manner.

>>169038934
Shadow is more of a Vegita
Knuckles is the Piccolo
Tails is Krillin

not sure who Goku Black would be

>>169038964
not a hog

>>169039331
Scourge?

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>>169038769
Nigga, I'm a tits over tiles lover who loves nothing more than a chest of drawers.

And that shitty crop of Gala Na does nothing for me. It's just her drawn at a distance so her bosom is made larger in order to help define her. It's nothing compared to anything by Dan Decarlo or any number of cape characters. Even looking at the various comic OCs there have been better and sexier depictions of bosoms and cleavage.

>>169039392
To be fair, nobody can compare ot most cape characters. Especially Power Girl

>>169039383
Either Broly or Turles.

>>169039392
>comparing compressed anatomy 4' tall anthros to 5-6' tall humans
No shit the bigger sized proportions are going to be relatively larger.
If Gala-Na's giant rack doesn't do anything for you but Rouge's does, then there's something wrong with you.
>>169039590
>Broly
Because green? Yeah, no.

>>169039590
He can't be either of those because Scourge actually has a personality

>>169038934
Goku Black is probably more Mephiles than Shadow.

>>169039467
True, and I understand that there's a standard within the Sonic character design you have to adhere to, but seriously there must have been at least some chestier comic characters than distance shot Gala Na.

It's not even like she is doing anything particularly erotic in that shot either.

>>169039697
Post it, post that picture

Knuckles has both fire powers and earth powers, but which element clashes with wind more symbolically?

>>169039774
You already know what it is and I don't even have it.

>>169039737
I can understand you saying that about Broly. But Turles? Surely you jest.

Eggman Nega could be Zamasu so that would make himSonic Black as well

>>169039916
Turles' personality, like most of the movie villains, is pretty goddamn bare. Granted, Scourge as Turles could work since it's literally Evil Goku

>>169039806
I thought they sort of retconned his fire stuff with blaze and all

>>169039956
But if Eggman Nega took over Sonic's body, wouldn't he be called Sonic Nega instead?

>>169040065
He'd be called Superior Sonic and nobody would notice the difference

>>169039916
Not him but both are movie characters. They're not going to be oozing with personality like Frieza or Cell. They simply didn't have enough screen time too. And the extra screen time Broly got was complete garbage outside of pure visuals.

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It's a shame we never got to see Breezie pre-reboot

>No Butler Breezie

>>169040162
Just because Turles was a movie villain doesn't mean he didn't have personality.

>>169039868
Well then you'd know that she barely has any shape or weight to her breasts, they're just balloons, and not even very good ones.

>>169040013
Nah, Sonic '06 has his punches with fire effects, and Sonic Rivals 2 has him use a very fire-based special move.

>>169040519
He had about as much of a personality as every other movie villain. Even Broly has one until he gets brain-damaged in his two sequels. Most of the movie villains were retreads of previous villains with Garlic Jr. and Dr. Wheelo being the most original that aren't just giant monsters.
Turles is a Vegeta.
Slug is a Demon King Piccolo.
Android 13 is just an android who does roids.
Bojack is just a Cell-lite.
Janemba is a Buu.
etc.

Archie solicitations are out. There's no Sonic

>>169041729
Nice.

>>169041858
Most likely due to the delay. Fuck Archie..

>>169041858
>you're right
Welp.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/archie-comics-may-2017-covers-and-solicitations/1100-156393/

>>169041972
>Delay
You mean cancellation

>>169041858
Not surprised.

>>169041858
>>169041982
Really concerning, I would've expected them to re-solicit Sonic 292 and Universe 96 since they are slated for May right now, but maybe they aren't confident it'll come out then either...

I don't think Sonic missed a solicitation during the last hiatus.

>>169042049
It was literally reported that the comics were being delayed. Let's not go around this circle again.

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>>169041858

>>169042243
And to add: I know it's likely (and it wouldn't surprise me) SEGA pulled the license. But I'm gonna hold out until someone says something.

>>169042243
Yeah, and we know why. This isn't like Megaman where it's going on "hiatus". Either we lose the case and Sega gets fed up or nothing happens and they start production again.

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>>169037904
i want nicole to be my friend

>>169042553
Maybe not pulling the license; more likely they declined to renew it, probably until they see how much of a legal mess this Fulop garbage is going to drag them directly into. They may still axe the comic afterwards though, but I dunno. It feels like nothing is set in stone yet, the way Herms and Hesse were talking about a "situation" that was to be "resolved."

>>169041858
Riverdale was successful. They don't need Sonic now.

>>169043575
Honestly, if I were Sega I would pull the license too. Too many nutjobs coming out of the woodwork trying to sue over my product.

>>169043678
source?

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>>169043554
Me too even if she's too smart for my average brain.

>>169040013
The comics had a Sonic the Fighters arc that had him using a fire uppercut.

>>169044301
Riverdale's ratings has been good, I think.

>>169044625
Maybe it's not canon, but he saw Ken do a shoryuken in Worlds Unite.

>>169044859
Worlds Unite was after Champions.

>>169044859
The arc was before Worlds Unite.

Knuckles also used the move in Worlds Unite, but that was in the Battles side-comic or whatever.

Come to think of it, isn't a shoryuken basically a flaming uppercut? I'm not expert on Street Fighter.

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>>169045151
Yeah my bad, I think my brain is still trying to block out the memory of WU completely.
>>169045263
Yup, that's what a shoryu / dragon punch is. Ken was always better at them than Ryu, who was better at hadous.

>>169038240
Why the hell would they base it off WW?

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>>169046205
This entire crossover was so bland and meaningless.

>>169046205
Could someone tell me why WU was so awful? I haven't read it yet but my mind already winces at the idea of Sonic's story coming to a halt just for another Mega Man crossover, the first one was great as is.

>>169041858
I think it's gonna be a long time before we see a new comic come out, if one comes out at all.

>>169046205
So then why did Kncukles say he wanted to try it At this point in time he's already done it twice.

>>169046465
>>169046835
The art in this issue.>>169046205 was just plain bland, as well as others.
>brings all these other franchises just to job to Sigma
>was already bloated by throwing in X and Boom with Sonic and Mega Man.
>Sonic and co didn't meet their Boom versions
>stuck the comic versions instead of the game versions as in the first crossover, so it appeals to a smaller audience
The first crossover was a labor of love that embraces both Sonic and Mega Man in unique ways that meshed well, the Chaos Devil, the Robticized Masters, and was written as part of the game canon to appeal to a wider audience. Worlds Unite just threw everyone together in a confusing way.

>>169046835
Awkward art for most of it, plot is mostly just "go here, get that franchise, then go there and get that franchise", and it was completely pointless and stalled 4 comics.

>>169030438
The fight.

>>169029257
3D only, but it's a must

>>169047181
>So then why did Kncukles say he wanted to try it At this point in time he's already done it twice.
I think that was what confused me in the first place when I remembered him saying that line.
>>169046835
What everone else said. That and the fact that it was masterminded by former editor Kaminski, who also pushed for sales of trade paperbacks containing content that Fulop is now suing over.

>>169039769
>Goku Black is Mephiles
>Zamasu is Iblis
>Merged Zamasu is Solaris
This actually works.

>>169046835
There are more reasons than can all be listed in one post but
>Shit artwork for half the arc
>Parts of the plot just rehash the first crossover
>It got the Mega Man comic cancelled
>Brought in a bunch of obscure/no longer relevant Sega and Capcom franchises only to use them for two issues
>Xander Payne plays a major role in the story
>Shadow dies for no reason and is then brought back like nothing happened
>Introduces Genesis Portals as a lasting plot device but they never show up again afterwards
The third issue with the two doctors roboticizing Sonic and Mega Man was the only good part of the whole thing.

>>169041858
Come the fuck on.
For fuck's sake, everyone at the staff must feel absolutely terrible right now.

So... I'm a data hoarder and I've been here from the beginning, and I'm suddenly faced with having to organize and back all my shit up. I can't believe how much impact you faggots have had on my files.

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>>169048182
You're welcome, anon!

Have a Sonic.

https://youtu.be/Ge3BwUgA9iE

Is Archie Sonic cancelled? Who do I need to kill?

>>169049207
>Is Archie Sonic cancelled?

Maybe

>Who do I need to kill?

Archie, for letting this whole thing snowball the way it has.

>>169049207
>Is Archie Sonic cancelled?
Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

>Who do I need to kill?
Pretty much all parties at this point. Except the freelancers.

>>169044858
I'm looking on wikipedia so I don't exactly have the best source but is 1.38, 1.15, 1.20, and 1.24 million views good for episodes 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively?

>>169049483
It depends on the network, but that's good for CW. I think, I don't really know what their other shows do.

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>>169048182
put it in a mega and share please

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Not normally here but has anyone seen that human sonic official art?

>>169049705
Do you mean the imagine you just posted or another one? Yes, that image has been discussed here several times.

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>>169049705
You mean this?

>>169049829
Oh ok sorry

>>169049705
>Sega never used this form in a game.

>>169049483
It's the 6th highest rated program on the CW and the top program among those that haven't already been renewed. It's not doing as well as the DC shows, but it's not bombing so far.

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>>169049906
No worries anon. Planning to stay?

>>169049705
I honestly think it looks awesome.

...

How would Chris look in that kind of human design?

>>169050012
>How would Chris look in that kind of human design?
Which Chris?

>>169050002
I sometimes kind of show up and look around hoenstly.

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So, wait, how did he survive after SA2?

>>169050012
Honestly I think it would have fit tails more considering all the tech, hair and stuff not counting.

>>169050337
He just... survived. He didn't burn up in the atmosphere nor did he die from the fall.

>>169050198
I assume he means Thorndyke?

>>169050337
Chaos Controlled closer to the ground on Earth, but he landed headfirst on a rock, & got amnesia.

>>169050337
How did Sonic survive the numerous times he's fallen from high atmosphere and in space, including the times he's fallen on his face?

>>169050337
By the power of being Izuka's popular OC.

>>169050337
He was still in the Super form, I guess?

>>169050337
Didn't eggman save him?

>>169050337
Popularity.

>>169050337
Eggman had a robot nab him before he burned up in reentry.

>>169047362
not that anon but whats wrong with the fight? Is Axers art really considered that bad? I like it.

>>169050798
His Rouge certainly should be considered bad.

>>169050337
Sonic Adventure 2 itself implies that Shadow's fall was actually overexertion of his super form causing him to disappear. So the way they handled his return in Heroes and stuff should have been much different.

>>169050337
Eggman saved him

If the comic does go under I hope ABT posts the pages for the Bunnie/Blaze comic.

>>169050798
Pretty much what
>>169050915 said

>>169051148
Yardley has directly sold prints of his pencils, so I don't see why he wouldn't be able to.

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What's silver posting /sthg/? And why is he so smug about it

Also, taking some feedback from the previous thread, I've attempted to make my lines less angular. Thoughts?

Is it weird that I don't actually mind how long the Unleashed arc was? It was nice and made enough sense that they weren't just going to fix the world within a super short timespan, and there were a lot of little events and characters interspersed in between, like the Sonic The Fighters adaptation. There were a lot of climactic moments and it made the whole thing feel like an actual journey. My biggest frustration really is jamming shit in like the extremely watered-down Sonic 1 - CD adaptations right afterwards, instead of expanding more on this relatively new universe.

And of course, the fact that the Unleashed arc was interrupted for the sake of motherfucking Worlds Unite.

>>169051637
>Silvaze>Sonaze

>>169051637
>Damn right I'm the cutest hedgehog.

>>169051637
Not bad.

>>169051637
>"I told you it was no use!"

>>169051004
How different would it be if Shadow was instead a robot like he was implied to be in Sonic Heroes?

>>169052151
Pretty sure the Shadow in Heroes was a robot while the real one was wandering around with no memories.

>>169051798
It would've been better if more arcs were like Waves of Change and Champions in that they were self-contained 4-part stories that resolved in a way that furthered the overarching plot. It was probably because of Worlds Unite but later arcs were complete garbage that only furthered the plot in extremely shallow ways, which got people burned out and tired of the overarching plot.

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>>169052151
Shadow the Hedgehog would still happen and the ending where he thinks he's a robot and decides it doesn't matter because "This is WHO I AM (fade to black)" would be canon thus making him the "real" Shadow and everything would continue as you see now due to Izuka completely dropping the robot thing in the very next game.

Comic-wise Ian would most likely toss in some jokes but is unable to flat-out say "Shadow is a robot" due to SEGA mandates.

>>169051798
>And of course, the fact that the Unleashed arc was interrupted for the sake of motherfucking Worlds Unite.

Don't forget the hiatus shortly after it.

>>169052151
>muh circuitry

>>169052151
>MARIA-AH-AH-AH-AH BZZZZZT
>Systems 0w7433dg3 has stopped working

>>169053062
Okay, that got a kek out of me.

>Shadow is a robot
>Ian gives him Shard's character arc in the comics, Shard therefore doesn't exist
>we get a bunch of Shadow/Nicole shippers

>>169052407
Honestly the problem with the later stuff outside of things like Hidden Costs which were really good, and the Bunnie and Rotor backups, was that the 10/10 split fucked things in terms of pacing. You had to basically blitz to the end without really getting to characterize anyone and it hurt the comic

>>169051637
I like it better than your previous pictures. Still needs a ton of practice, though.

>>169053296
I think it's time for a certain program to be deleted.

>>169053314
It wasn't even the 10/10 split, it was that almost all issues after the crossover ended up being one-shots or two-parters. This meant people thought of them as continuing parts of the Unleashed narrative instead of parts of a self-contained story like with Champions.

>>169053394
Nicole?

>>169053610
That too, but the split only exacerbated things.

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>>169051884

>>169053296
>we get a bunch of Shadow/Nicole shippers
I'd be one of them.

>>169051884
This.

>>169050512
if memory serves, this has only ever happened in 2, 3K, and unleashed
first two times tails got him, third time chip stopped him before he hit the ground

>>169054848
adventure 1

>>169054974
sonic never went to space in adventure 1
just whatever altitude the egg carrier was flying at, presumably below the point where one would start getting altitude sickness
not that that'd really mean anything, considering that even eggman's been demonstrated to be able to breathe in space just fine

>>169054848
Sonic and the Black Knight.

>>169055578
i never played that one, when did he fall from space

>>169054848
>>169055343
>>169055891
I included "high atmosphere" for a reason. The only appreciable difference between falling from space and falling from in the sky is the heat caused by friction from re-entry, which Sonic has demonstrated on multiple times to not give a shit about. He'll hit terminal velocity in both, so the actual impact of hitting the ground is the same.

>>169056176
Its okay, hedgehogs are made of the tough stuff.

>>169056176
the series has also been demonstrated multiple times to not give two shits about actual physics
of all the falls that have been demonstrated in the series, there have only been falls from high altitudes with no injuries, falls from space that were interrupted and resulted in no injuries, and an uninterrupted fall from space that was assumed to be fatal but wasn't, though still requiring immediate medical care and resulting in amnesia

>>169056176
I don't even remember him falling from high atmosphere in SatBK.

We also have to remember that he dies if he falls off the bottom of the level in... any high atmosphere level, so the Sonic characters definately aren't literally immune to fall damage.

>>169028896
Is this the "canonical" friends list? As of 2017?

>>169057727
Don't forget the Chaotix. Sonic invited them to his birthday party, even though they've never really interacted all that much. I think Sonic just forgot about Big after Adventure 1 and Heroes.

>>169057727
Nah. The canonical list is
>Tails
>Classic Sonic
>Knuckles and Amy once in a blue moon

CHRONIC THE HEDGEHOG!

>>169057905
> when you only have 2 people who will talk to you and one of them is yourself

>>169028896
How is Silver so popular if 06 was so shit?

>>169058405
Hedgehogs are automatically popular.

>>169057869
Also, Omega.

>>169058591
Sonic barely knows Omega. I don't think he's even seen the guy since Heroes.

nigga why am I getting upload failed errors when I try to post with images?

>>169058664
GookMoot

>>169058664
HIROOOOOO!

Is there a larger version of this texture or maybe some fan art of it?

I'm trying to do a real life mosaic based on this and it's impossible doing it with such a low def image as a reference. Any help would be great appreciated.

>>169050337
I was thinking earlier today, what caused Sonic Team to bring Shadow back for Heroes?

His death in SA2 seems like it was supposed to be permanent. Was it a response to fan requests, and what fans, Japanese or western? Did someone at Sonic Team just get the idea to bring him back? Or was the convoluted mess that was revealed in Shadow's game actually planned from the start?

The Advance and Rush games are always left out of a lot of reviews of the series.

How good are they? And how do I play them in 2017?

>>169059478
Popularity. Shadow was insanely popular and still is despite not showing up in 8+ years outside of a cameo and spin-offs.

>>169059478
>what fans, Japanese or western
Shadow is popular everywhere.

God dammit I need to post images

>>169059554
They're fairly good and can all be emulated

>>169059554
Emulate them, or buy them are on their original hardware.

They're both good. Biggest complaints are the small screen size, dodgy level design, and some people don't like the boost formula of the Rush games.

Colors on the DS is basically Rush 3. Aside from the port of Sonic 1 and maybe Chronicles (it's more mediocre than outright bad), you really can't go wrong with any Sonic game for the GBA or DS. It's when it hits 3DS that thing fall off a cliff.

Alright, finished Heroes and gotta say that while the characterization got a bit flanderized compared to the adventure games, it was still enjoyable. The game has its flaws, last levels are kind of a mess and the physics sometimes are inconsistent, other than that, I would say that Heroes is a pretty underrated game, especially after I looked at the metascore.

Then I played Advance 1, the special minigames are horrible so didn't bother with the chaos emeralds. Still what a great little game, most of it is on par with the genesis titles, except for zone 6 which is a dumpster fire.

Advance 2 so far is fun, but I dunno what to think about the stronger focus on speed rather than platforming. Still, achieving a super fast speed without getting interrumpted is as rewarding as ever and the music, man it is awesome.

That is something that I noticed with Sonic games, they tend to have fantastic soundtracks.

>>169059350
well images won't upload for some reason and it's been like this for like an hour so here's a link I guess:

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It's perfect chaos from Sonic Adventure.

>>169059478
He has a lot of fans. A LOT of fans

>>169059854
Yeah even the worst Sonic games tend to have pretty good music in it.

Also, do you know the reward you get in Advance 2 by getting everything?

>>169060003
Nope, but I also have no idea how to get the chaos emeralds there anyways. Getting to the goal or checkpoint with 50 rings doesn't work, and I haven't seen any special ring whatsoever thanks that I'm always going super fast.

>>169059854
Have you played Battle and Advance 3 yet? Advance 3 is a bit dodgy, but Battle is a pretty good game. If you're looking for more modern titles, there's the Rush series. The Rivals series is a bit bland, but it features Silver and Eggman Nega, so if you're interested, you can look up the cutscenes on YouTube. The first 2 Riders games are pretty fun, so you should try those out as well. Free Riders uses the Kinect, so you might want to stay away from that one. The Storybook series is alright. Secret Rings has terrible controls, but they're better somewhat in Black Knight. It has an amazing story, so I'd recommend looking the cutscenes up on YouTube. Unleashed also has a good story, so more cutscenes for you.

>>169047452
>What everone else said. That and the fact that it was masterminded by former editor Kaminski, who also pushed for sales of trade paperbacks containing content that Fulop is now suing over.

So the fulop issue is his fault too? Its always a paul or a ryan making shit worse.

>>169060087
Basically if you get the emeralds with every character, you unlock Amy. Get the emeralds with Sonic, & you get a Super Sonic bossfight.

>>169060003
Advance 1 requiera special springs hidden in the level.

Advance 2? Several special coins (eblems?) scattered in each level. You have to find every single one in a go, no dying, no going back another time, grab all 5, (7?) of them there are for one Chaos Emeald.

>>169060251
Jesus I need sleep. Meant to reply to>>169060087

So many typos...

>>169060224
>you unlock Amy
What, but she was playable in Advance 1, I even did a run with her.

>>169060251
>You have to find every single one in a go, no dying, no going back another time, grab all 5, (7?) of them there are for one Chaos Emeald.
Now this is a surprise, why would they do something that idiotic? S3K had a perfect way to handle chaos emeralds, why ruin it?

>>169060195
Nope, still with Advance 2, then I will move on to Advance 3, Unleashed, Colors and Generations. But I have time while Mania gets released and Zelda gets leaked. I can try those too, thanks anon. Since I also liked the characters, was going to ask abour info on the comics, but since everyone has said that the reboot starts with 252 then I'm gonna work my way through there, anything that I should keep in mind?

>>169060224
Sill a better reward than that middle finger you get in Sonic 4: Episode 2 for collecting all the red rings.

>>169060501
>was going to ask abour info on the comics, but since everyone has said that the reboot starts with 252 then I'm gonna work my way through there, anything that I should keep in mind?
They are fairly different from the games, so just know that going in. Also there's 2 comics: Sonic the Hedgehog, and Sonic Universe. Sonic the Hedgehog follows Sonic and the Freedom Fighters, while Universe is made up of relatively self-contained 4 part arcs about characters like Shadow, Knuckles, Blaze, and Silver,a nd so on, having adventures seperate from Sonic. It's not mandatory to read most of the time, but it's generally got the best the comic has to offer.

2. The comic has OCs. Just accept it, it's part of the appeal.

3. The comics take fairly heavy inspiration from SaTAM.

In my opinion even though getting the chaos in Advance 3 was boring and annoying it has my favorite way of getting to the Special Stages and it has the best Special Stage out of the 3 games.

>>169060501
Yeah, but they made her a locked character in Advance 2. I don't even know why, & it's irritating as fuck to get the emeralds.

>tfw had Advance 2 completed for years
>Turn on GBA for old times sake
>All data gets deleted & now I have to collect the emeralds again

I was so fucking angry when that happened.

>>169060217
I don't think he did anything damaging on purpose, but it really didn't help his reputation after all the reboot / crossover nonsense.

>>169060501
Heck of I know man. It got better in Advance 3, which instead used Chao, but saved let you take multiple runs to get em all.

Except now there's ten. But all are scattered in each zone, as well as the hub worlds section.

Yes, Advance 3 has a hub world.

>>169059943
>tfw you're a fan of the popular character

Why is it that Dimps always went full retard when it came to getting the emeralds?

>>169060980
>always
Rush, Episode 1& 2, and Colors special stages were actually an okay job.

>>169060980
>Dimps
They're fucking retarded, that's why.

>>169050337
He had an extra life.

>>169038934
more like Scourge imo

>>169058635
True, but I'm sure Sonic wouldn't minded if Shadow and Rouge brought him over to the party

If Boom Sonic is in Project 2017, will Modern Sonic be less snarky in order to differentiate or will Modern & Boom have different kinds of snark?

>>169063958
That's a stupid question since Boom Sonic won't be in 2017.

I remember hearing that Amy trained with weighted shit in Battle. Why did they decide to give her that?

>>169064146
Because Battle is about battling with fists, and in order to have a well-rounded plot, all the main characters had to have talent in fisticuffs.

>>169063958
Modern Sonic isn't exactly snarky.

>>169064251
But they already gave her boxercising. Now I'm just thinking about Amy taking off her weights & fucking people up.

>>169064568
amy could totally fuck up some dudes. And her wrist rings could totally be the same as shadow's inhibitor rings.

Amy is a confirmed powerhouse though. Makes sense for her to look up to sonic because she thinks he's worthy of her so she's gotta have talents.

Amy strikes me more as the kind of character who only uses her strength as a comedy gag. Like she could knock down a legion of robots but as soon as sonic shows up she trips over a rock and needs him to catch her because she wants his attention.

Fuck now super strong amy pretending to be clumsy to snare sonic is a thing I want to see. (sonic totally sees through it and THAT is why he never hooks up with Amy. If she was honest he would, but she's trying to trick him instead of admitting she likes him, and that's why she's always getting herself damselled.)

>>169064568
>Now I'm just thinking about Amy taking off her weights & fucking people up.
You mean those rings around her wrists?

>>169064251
>>169064146
>>169064146
>>169064568
Because Amy is strong as Fuck. It's just irrelevant since she hangs out with other people who are also strong as shit, like sonic and knuckles.

>>169064459
You're right, he's an asshole

>>169065424
That's probably it, yeah.

>>169065276
Is a drawfag willing to get on this?

>>169065581
I wouldn't say that either. That's more of Fleetway and Pre-Reboot Archie Sonic territory.

>>169065276
I fucking love the idea of a super strong amy, hand over face like a princess "oh dear these badniks have captured me whatever will I do" getting dragged off by motobugs or whatever, and sonic just ignores her. Then amy just smashes them all casually and goes back to her Wile E Coyote drawing board of plans. "maybe if I drop a cage on myself as he's walking past?..."

WHAT COMES UP MUST COME DOWN

>>169065716
Then what is he? At least, what differentiate his personality from Classic and Boom?

>>169066174
YET MY FEET DON'T TOUCH THE GROUND

>>169066249
Cocky.

>>169066249
Classic is pretty obvious when you see them together, but Modern Sonic is more energetic, and less cynical than Boom. And his remarks come off more as teasing then mocking.

>>169066249
Modern Sonic is like that friend who makes jokes and puns so shitty that you can't help but laugh at them sometimes.

>>169064568
Boxercising originated from Battle.

https://youtu.be/d-Hlae8U5z0

I've always had the theory that the Inhibitor Rings on Shadow's ankles convert his natural superspeed into the exhaust that comes out the jets of his shoes, allowing a better, controlled, more fluid movement.

>>169068810
Speed isn't some generated energy you can convert like that, numbnuts.

>>169068893
>doesn't know what kinetic energy is

But serious though, we know that Sonic's speed isn't just some leg muscle thing, it's more like how the Flash's speed force works. Sonic and Shadow are equals to the degree of being like mirrors of each other, so they have the same power. Since Shadow's power, unlike Sonic's, need to be controlled (or else), his speed is harnessed by his shoes in such a way that Shadow has full control over it like he does everything else.

>>169068810
I imagine Shadow going something like 8-Gates Gai from Naruto if he also took off his ankle Inhibitor Rings, albeit without the risk of dying, just extreme exhaustion afterwards.

>>169065276
I would post that panel of Amy from Mega Drive but 4chan is acting up.

>>169071348
Amy pls!

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>>169071348
do image posts work?

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>>169071348

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We /Amy/ now?

>>169071674
>Heart shaped chest
>That little fang

Cute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNXQQXRm63A&feature=youtu.be

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>>169072027
Amy is always cute!

>>169072334
True!

and with that, it's broken again

>>169073068
This site's a mess.

Hey at least we can still post at all. Not like the times where posting is completely broken for 6 hours

>>169073068
At least it isn't as broken as avast right now.

>>169073363
What is Avast doing?

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>>169072334
Indeed she is.

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>STILL
>NO
>MANIA
>RELEASE
>DATE

SPRING 2017 MY FUCKING ASSHOLE, I BET IT'S GONNA BE JUNE 19TH JUST TO BE ASSHOLES

I WANT MY FUCKING SANIC MANIA

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

>>169064459
He had his moments in lost world.

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>>169076359

>>169077183
He also had his "moments"

>>169038060
>Nicole is the closest Sonic equivalent to "delicious brown"

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>>169077492
They know

I'm officially dropping the comic after about 15 years of support.
It's a big decision, but it just doesn't have any soul to itself anymore.

Focusing more on the games from here on out. Gonna play the few I've missed, like Sonic Chaos and Lost World.

>>169080032
I feel ya man.
I dropped it when the second mega man crossover finished up.
The decision was scary but once I did it I felt so free.

For the record, Sonic Chaos might be the best 8 bit sonic game btw.

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Whoever does the modeling for this show is a sadistic fuck that knows how to turn people on

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>tfw fell for the 3d sonic can be good meme
Generations is really not good and fun to play to me.

>>169080503
Generations is a Nostalgia grab.
It's better than most 3D sonics, maybe even all of them, but that doesn't make it great or anything.

>>169080032
>>169080149
I don't really understand why reading the comic would be restrictive or anything. It's not like Berserk. You can read and catch up on the reboot with like half a day of reading.

I mean I know you have your reasonings since reception post reboot has been kind of mixed, but you act like the comic is holding you by gunpoint.

It's rumored to be getting canceled so if this is true then there isn't really much else to follow anyways.

>>169080503
Oh yeah and the 3 optional bossfights were unironically the best part of the game and even -fun-

>>169080503
I liked Generations, did level design a lot better than the others imo. Only stage I hated was Planet Wisp, because it was so accurate it perfectly replicated my problems with the original Sonic Colors levels in that there was too much 2D platforming.

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>>169076274
>SPRING 2017 MY FUCKING ASSHOLE, I BET IT'S GONNA BE JUNE 19TH JUST TO BE ASSHOLES
lol Tekken 7 pulled that move.

>>169080614
Not him but letting go of something at all that you've been with for a while can be difficult

>>169080745
During 2d sections everything feelt clunky to control and the camera was bad.
During 3d sections I am just contemplating the meaning of my life.
Why does 3d sonic need 2d plattforming anyway? I can't imagine 3d fans like those forced sections.
Like, just do a double release of the games like pokemon. Sonic Generations 2d and Sonic Generations 3d for example.

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Sonic Adventure is the only good 3D Sonic Game

>>169081338
The game where you can get stuck on walls while running at super cinema speed?

>>169081338
Nope

If the comic truly is cancelled, what would you be most upset/disappointed about losing?

>>169083451
porn

>>169083451
The possibility that it gets good again.

>>169083451
A creative staff that actually gives a shit about the franchise, which not even the games have right now.

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>>169081338
>Sonic Adventure is the only good 3D Sonic Game
Played it at release when I was 11.
Has a nice sense of atmosphere to it. Every level feels unique from the rest, unlike in SA2.
The narrative is clever and is implemented in an impressive style that involves all characters.
The soundtrack, save for the pure autism that are the theme songs, is catchy and memerable.

Everything else is terrible.
The level design is atrocious and cramped.
The multiple characters feel like fan made free DLC stapled on to the main game and just sacking off of parts of sonic's levels.
The game is glitchy beyond hell and for any newcomer is not something that any newcomer should be recconended.
The adventure field is a nice idea implemented terribly. It's confusing, poorly designed yet small somehow, and serves no purpose other than to pad out the game length.
Characters will randomly stick to and clip through walls.
Big's entire campaign is simply abhorred, even if you're good at it.

And I could keep going, but you get the point. I love sonic games and for the life of me to this day don't know what people see in Sonic Adventure.
I've 100%ed the game 3 times now. On 3 different consoles. On the Xbox 360 version I have all the achievements and yes. That includes all those insufferable "events" (I'm looking at you, ice cap snowboarding).

Yes, the sequel is better. Yes, it's heavily flawed too, but at least the game fucking works. Yes, Heroes is also better, despite being a bore after playing for more than 20 minutes at a time.
Sonic Adventure is one of the most overrated games I've ever played in my entire life, by far, and I suspect I know it better than most people that overrate it anyway.

>>169083451
>If the comic truly is cancelled, what would you be most upset/disappointed about losing?
My heart got ripped out when they rebooted it.
Since then it's been on life support. If it does I can finally rest in peace.

>>169084436
Pretty spot on.

I could never do the event that requires snowboarding over the line of rings

>>169084436
You'll trigger some people, but you're 100% correct.