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>Newb guide
http://pastebin.com/XGWdGjPc
>0.6.1.1 LIVE
https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/patch-notes-0611/
>February Event Calendar + Ship Class specific boosts
NA https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/forever-alone/
EU http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/73122-event-calendar-february/
>Plans for 2017
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/whatsinthebox/
>Captain Skill caculator
http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc
>Leaked info from WoT magazine
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5ugx31/summary_from_wot_magazine_article/
>leddit
>Statistic tracker
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/
http://www.wowstats.org/
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/index.html
>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully_ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel"
SEA Channel: /vg/
>Clans
[BOTES] on NA Contact Precisionista FULL
[BOTES] on SEA Contact Benlisquare
[HOTEL] on EU Contact Rex1121 FULL
Reminder: your botefu has already had thousands of seamen
Previously:
>>168730151
PROTIP: for consistent Ranked progress, play only with this on in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOYTfpHl0JA
memes
Why so early?
>French BB line still not released
>>168914980
titties demand it
>>168915426
Water dynamics on those botes seem suboptimal.
>>168915542
yes but the TDS is THICC
>>168915691
>Pugliese
laughing_bongs.jpg
>mfw using lady in ranked
hot rapist on speedslut action
I will remember.
>>168916591
It's shit like this that makes /wowsg/ so goddamn unbearable. From a third party standpoint, just keep the drama on fucking discord and stay there.
>>168916767
this desu
>>168916767
What is that supposed to mean.
>>168917732
>I pretend to not understand anon's point as to invalidate it as a argument
Very weak. Just keep your clan hissy fits out of this general.
>>168918736
Prec said we'll discuss clan matters in this thread. Fuck off if you don't like i t.
>>168918774
>Prec said....
It's like the word of god. Oh wait, no, it means nothing.
d e b
Hello my fellow [BOTES]/[HOTEL]s
There are multiple foreign parties who are browsing and shitposting this thread right now, with vested interests in making us fail. They know we are dangerous, they know we have amazing players, they know we pose a threat to the delicate balance of power they've agreed on. Not yet of course, we just got started after all.
But they've read the writing on the wall, and they're afraid. They're very scared. So they're attempting to nip us at the bud before we can get on our feet. They're desperately trying to discourage us, to fragment us, so we may never emerge as a true powerhouse.
Sure, we lost a training match, and those foreign interests are restlessly rubbing it on our faces. So as o make you lose hope, so you give up, so you never rise up and challenge them again from the superior spot we are capable of reaching. Don't forget that we've been successful on our first steps as a league team, that we've won the games that actually count; don't forget how we've managed to get far ahead on previous ocassions, back when TBs were still around.
Don't give in.
Stay strong my fellow [BOTES]/[HOTEL]s. Greatness awaits, but only to those that persevere.
>>168920645
>back when TBs were still around
Beating teams with 3000 ELO, wow.
>>168920771
And beating high ELO teams despite no coms or caller.
wew BOTES a shit!
>>168920645
Thank you QT Hotel
>>168920645
Next time bring a t8 CV and focus on your tactics. If you can do that silver league should be in the bag.
>>168920645
>foreign interests
Why would anyone from actually populated and skilled servers care about what happens on NA?
>>168920949
>high ELO teams
Name such a team.
What's the difference between servers?
>>168921946
NA - competitive
SEA - shitter
EU - "oh ja merkel give it to me"
>>168921946
NA - "Oh Drumpf I love your fat alternative facts in my ass"
SEA - shitter
EU - competitive
>Last but not least, in version 0.6.2 we are going to release the alternate branch of Soviet destroyers which we announced earlier. The ships have passed all the required tests and will most likely become available right after the update goes live on the game server. We are not planning to test them during the Public Test.
Good hopefully this means they gave them the buffs they needed the CC first look made them look underpowered
>>168922284
Small penis syndrome detected. Go to bed Luger.
>>168921946
NA = Smaller population than EU, bigger than SEA. Has the better promotions and events compared to RU and CN. Players actively move here from other servers to escape the abuse of their shit servers.
EU = Largest non-RU population, is actively hated by its community contributers and WG and has shit events
SEA = Average players who WG occasionally forgets exist with the smallest population server.
RU = Cyka bylat rush B, babied by WG and given the best shit
CN = Ran by a company completely different than WG, a different world.
>>168921946
NA - Shitter
SEA - Shitter
EU - ShitterUniversal server when?
>>168922284
You sound like a muslim, dude, wtf
>>168922430
You should probably also mention the part about EU being reveled by former workers as a french sweatshop meant to milk money and has nothing but miserable workers who make less than janitor tier wages with overpaid french fatcats at the top
Flamu are you a ____
>>168922701
fetal alcohol syndrome
Whats the point of hydroacoustic search when sonar/radar exists?
>>168922849
>Whats the point of hydro acoustic search when hydro acoustic/radar exists?
what did he mean by this
>>168923007
you know what I mean faggot. Two different types of modules that do the same shit
>>168922849
>What's the point of sonar when sonar exists?
Truly one of life's great mysteries.
>>168922849
>Whats the point of hydroautistic search when sonar/ radar exists?
what did he mean by this?
>>168923063
>do the same shit
>hydro and radar
?????
>>168922849
You SEA "poster"s are funny. Go back to the rice field.
>>168923131
>both improve the detection range of ships including torpedo detection
>one vastly inferior than the others
whats the purpose of the lesser?
>>168923186
fuck off drumpf
>>168922849
>>168923267
Hydroacoustic Search/Sonar
Short range
Long effect
Detects torps
Radar
Long range
Short effect
Does not detect torps
>>168923267
>both improve the detection range of torpedoes
dohoho
>>168922701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUcln7StaEw
You now realize that people like >>168922849 are the top tier BBs in your games.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-076.htm
yamato was a mistake
>>168924012
>are the top tier BBs in your games.
You mean the top tier CAs and DDs. What's it matter if that's what a baBBy thinks? Most of them don't have either.
BOTES should be POOtes
Remove RNG shit
>I'm so good at this game because of dice rolls
>>168925306
>Everything should have perfect laser accuracy
great idea. you should make more videogames
>>168926456
>no things shouldn't be skill based AT ALL
>>168920645
Thanks qt hotelposter.
You're a good person.
>>168920645
I just want clam wars for unique botes. I don't really care about the thing anu has an autistic hard on for since the only reward is doubloons.
reminder that having HOTEL clantag allows you to citpen BBs with CL weapons!
>>168920645
scrims to make unicum teams fucking when
>>168924012
>>168924185
>he likely has a missouri and a tirpiz
oh. oh...
>>168928764
There are scrims already. Nobody turns up to them and we have to make other teams wait for ages because we never have a CV.
>>168929064
within botes/hotel i mean
we need a professional stats analyst to check out who isnt statpadding to make a list of candidates to kick butt during clan wars
also check who would do CVnt for us
>>168929161
>also check who would do CVnt for us
Nobody.
And 'muh statpadding' always ends up being a mess because everyone has different ideas of what statpadding is, which is why it's such a useless term.
>>168929280
There's at least 1-3 people in HOTEL playing CV's. I know one if them.
>>168929280
>disregard stats from tier 7 and below ships
why is this so hard
>>168929447
doesnt ussdonaldtrump play for us too?
or did we shitposted him away because pol-posting?
>>168929064
Because our only CV player is a diva who refuses to play
>tfw comfy on EU with no /wowsg/ players
>>168929447
I'm pretty sure the only people in [BOTES] (the clan) who plays CVs are King and Haruna, and King's in one of his moods or something, and Haruna doesn't play SL, so if you have anyone in [HOTEL] who plays Shokaku somewhat competently, you should have them reach out to NeoRussia.
>>168929994
Maybe he should stalk less and help us out.
>>168929594
Pretty sure he doesn't want to join, and we don't want him to join anyway.
>>168929994
why doesn't haruna play second life is he a fag or something. prec needs him reeeee
>>168930439
>prec needs him reeeee
Fix your shitposting. Prec doesn't play SL, either, and he has no personal interest in it.
>>168930594
but muh scrims to train for clanwars
muh tiny competitions worth 1k~10k doooobloooons
>>168930646
>Expecting WG to implement clan wars in 2017
If you think WG will give away doubloons like they did with WoT clan wars you're really fucking naive
>>168929462
Then why don't we just disregard anything that's not T8? Or anything below T10? Also divs are probably statpadding, especially with a CV or certain arbitrary comps.
>>168931286
Your entire fucking existence is a meme, throw yourself out of the balcony.
As someone who plays like 10 games a week this was pretty good.
What's Belfast/RN CL T6-8 shell flight time at 13km mark?
>>168929946
EU is pretty nice actually, clan leader, the few discord spergs and undesiderables don't even show up anymore.
>>168931397
You too statpadded.
Is it true that some NA actually migrated to EU?
>>168932113
one shitter with 90 battles on NA
>>168931764
don't worry senpai
once I get kiev onNAI'll be back for t10 grind :^)
>>168926656
>RNG is a big mean skill devouring boogey man I dindu nuffin wrong it's all RNG! WAHWAHWAH
>>168932694
that grapf is wrong
>>168932113
It's usually the other way around.
>>168930646
Doubloons are always nice. Why do you hate doubloons?
Sure, silver league doesn't pay out that well, but you gotta start somewhere before moving onto the big leagues which pay better.
>>168931147
This desu. It will be either very little gold, or just credits/XP boosts. It will probably still be worth it for the standard payoff, plus being good at CWs ensure we get special reward ships.
>>168932694
>tfw perpetually in the chasm of no confidence
>outstanding ranked matches
>team actualy working together
>got to tier 10 twice
>booted out with astounishing defeats all the time
in other news my WR for this season is now above 75%!
>>168935385
now this is the kinda effect I have
>>168935520
>>168935385
>chart how skill improves while playing shipfu
Hot cruiser on cruiser penetrations
>>168936415
*groan*
ded
>>168932694
i should probably consider making one for RNG but meh, most of the skill in this game goes around working despite RNG rather that with it.
>finally getting to play 10.6 km manual secondaries on a fully upgraded Bismarck
>>168940014
>taking secondaries range over main battery dispersion
>>168940169
>DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON
>>168940169
>taking main gun dispersion mod over secondary gun range and accuracy mod
k e k
e
k
>>168922284
I see no lies here. NA is a shitflinging fest
>>168941989
you would easily have more avg dmg with main battery dispersion tbqh
>>168942404
prove it you turbo shitter
>>168941989
pls sir post CQC and arsonist medals
afaik the only real mistake is that BBs really need dispersion.
im at gneisau and i got all sec build except the dispersion mod wich i use because lol 6 barrels and missing hurts
>>168942449
while DPM on secondaries is godly have you considered citpenning might net you more kills?
do you charge smoke with hydro on?
>>168942808
Did you maybe consider that a 7% change to dispersion isn't all that important when you secondaries are capable of farming tens of fires, or allowing you to focus on big capital ship threats while your secondaries and hydro fend off cheeky DDs?
Did you maybe consider that youre a shitter?
>>168942808
Gneisenau's secondaries aren't that impressive compared to Bismarck and above.
>>168942808
>im at gneisau
No shit.
>>168938267
so is she worth it?
>>168943965
Are you in need of a cum dumpster?
>>168943047
>relying on secondaries for dmg
wowsg never fails to disappoint me
next you'll tell me you rely on torps for dmg in khaba
>>168944485
post ur bisko stats, kiddo
>>168943965
Are you a huge slut who enjoys being citpenned from every angle?
>>168944485
>he hasn't played Bismarck
>>168944485
are you this fucking retard by any chance?
>>168940169
>Trash talking a mad Nikolai player after he gets deleted by team
>'all you doods with 10k battles'
>'muh stats on any other bote, kiddo'
>>168944820
I have 90%wr with 150k avg dmg and I use main battery dispersion
>>168945495
post em
>>168945495
akogare pls
>>168945495
Only 150k?
pssh I got 96%wr and for the purposes of this post I'm crippled.
>>168946229
only 96 lel
>>168945495
I'm waiting for you to post evidence.
>ranked
>my team
>nagato shnardt, 4 fiji's, and my shiratsuyu
>enemy team
>2 shnardt, 3 belfasts 1 atlanta, 1 blys
>>168946735
>>168946920
Is this a room where Wos are punished, or a room where you get punished by all the Wos?
>>168948162
Wo knows
>>168948162
Does it matter
>>168946920
Stealing my Wo pictures are you!?
>>168948162
>>168948616
Punished Wo, an abyssal without an admiral.
>>168946735
I had a rank 10 game in wich nagato used ap thru all match
Asides that ranked is srs bsns and it was really nice overall.
>tfw 5k damage on enemy Fiji without citpens
Wiggling is awesome and noone should leave tier 5 without learning it
>>168949286
Lel fug I mean he didn't used ap
I'll hit the bed now
Why is it impossible to get more accuracy in this game
7%? Fucking 7%? That's it? That's fucking nothing. No matter what range you're at, 7% won't be nearly enough accuracy to make a difference. Either you're accurate or you're not.
Like no fucking wonder everyone goes for concealment builds or secondary builds - they're the only way to overcome your shitty fucking accuracy in this game.
>>168949502
Ships were far less accurate historically. The only way of balancing BBs is making them into slot machines.
>>168948923
wo to you good sir.
>>168949824
BB's really should just be removed from the game. It'd be so good if they were out.
>>168950356
>battleships should be removed from an early 20th century warship game because im a fucking turbo shitter that cant aim
Is there anything better than seeing a Belfast disappearing into his smoke, then killing him with a "blind" salvo?
>>168950573
Citpenning the belfast next to him too
>>168950573
Being the Belfast that gets free reign on melting everything nearby.
>>168950881
kys
>>168951015
Know Your Ship?
>>168951190
kys
>>168951190
>>168951385
>>168951015
Know your shipfu?
>>168951385
Know Your Sandwich?
>>168951015
>>168951385
k-kiss you're shipfu?
>>168951015
Kinky young ships?
>>168951015
Kindle your sexuality?
kys
>>168953145
Kill Your Soda?
>>168953145
Keep Yayoi Sexy?
>>168951190
I want to Know My Shipfu really, really well.
Spoilered for lewd, high impact smut.
>>168953523
That's nothing, look at this.
>>168953523
>>168953620
SMALL
TIME
>>168953817
Woah man, you can't just post that.At least spoiler it.
>>168953817
What is the point of the butt gun?
>>168954410
To shoot things from her butt? Duh.
>>168953620
God, Weevee is such an aesthetic bote.
>>168954410
To shoot backwards? Did you think before asking this question?
>>168953817
>>168956568
dat ass
>Play Hakuryu
On the enemy team
>2 Iowas
>2 Zao
>2 Movska
>Rest DDs
Where the fuck is my BB meta, im getting fucking tired of cruisers and DDs filling every fucking match. Every fucking can press T to win and half the fucking DD lines will be able to in a bit.
>tfw bullying Bong ships
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT0yoo9B2Bc
>>168943047
>while your secondaries and hydro fend off cheeky DDs?
secondaries won't fend off anything unless it's a Gnevny.
>>168959450
>he hasn't played bismarck
I fucking hate this Ranked tier, its all fucking clueless premium shitters hiding in smoke all the damned time and never ever spotting.
>>168959450
It doesn't matter if it can actually kill them fast enough to keep them from killing you, most players shy away from charging into a massive storm of fire, and those that don't often have second thoughts when they start being lit on fire or having their health chipped away.
>>168959450
>>168960084
Plus, this game isn't about individual engagements in a vacuum. It doesn't matter that your secondaries won't KILL the enemy. It matters that they'll do more damage than the enemy is willing to take in order to score one kill.
Gotta feel bad for those T6 CVs in a T8 game full of NCs, Clevelands and only 1-2 DDs
>>168954410
stop destroyers from shooting torps up its butt
I don't know what people are complaining about, mid tier torpedobotes seem fine to me.
>>168963869
>gets carried by Abrach and Chain
>ignores the buffs US DDs received
Cancerous.
>>168964027
But I was the one being carried
>>168964027
>there are people who don't play nothing but US DDs
Best line in the game desu.
>>168964248
>I am insecure about my WTR and can only pad it in US DDs
Pathetic desu.
>>168964278
>Best torps
>Best brawling
>Best zipping speed
>Best picketing
>Best smoke machine
>There's no way anybody could enjoy this
>They obviously do it for arbitrary stats
>>168964278
>implying I don't play them to donate all of my smokes to divmates so they can have a comfier time while I got off and play DD removal
Smoking allies and having them do well is the best feeling in the game desu.
>trying to help my team as the CV
>there is an Atlanta in the middle of all their clustered BB's
>ask the team if they can bean the Atlanta and kill him/make him fuck off
>team tells me to fuck off
>send my planes to fight shit on the other flank
>team gets mad at me for not supporting the flank where all the BB's are at
>atlanta is still alive
I don't know what they want me to do. If I send my tier 5 planes around the Atlanta they'll suffer a failure to existence check.
>>168964691
>stop playing CVs
>now the Atlanta doesn't matter
>now your team can't whine about your planes
found the solution desu
>>168964542
"I don't get carried, I play with friends, power of friendship heh"
"I play USN DDs, not because it's the easiest class to pad WTR but because of these bullshit reasons heh"
>thought I finally grew out of vidya
>start reading Shattered Sword
>reinstall world of botes
>>168964785
But I actually like playing CV's. I can actually get some consequences for when I attack someone.
>>168964690
Except you never help teammates or divmates. You play USN DDs to boost your ego and WTR, don't flatter yourself.
>>168964690
Why not play IJN DDs and do the same job?
>>168964885
>caring about other people's stats this much
>especially the most useless "skill" metric there is
Sounds like you're missing out on just enjoying the game anon.
What is it like to play in a div. It's been weeks since I've been able to grab a div on NA.
>>168964027
>being this jealous of the QTest div
>>168965196
Is this the reason why you're playing USN DDs? To artificially increase a "skill" metric?
>>168965179
Because they're worse at pretty much everything, including smoking teammates, removing DDs, and contesting caps.
Why would anyone play IJN DDs over US DDs? They're just nowhere near as fun, outside of Akizuki anyway.
>>168965404
>implying you can't do all those as a torpedo boat
>>168965502
I'm sure you can, but why wouldn't you do it in the line that does it all better and is more enjoyable and consistent while doing them?
>>168964027
>ignores the buffs US DDs received
Nigga they've had those since CBT, most of the people playing don't even remember a time when the US DDs were in a different state
>>168965757
>easy mode is enjoyable
>not gitting gud with """""""inferior"""""""" boats
>>168965757
I've easier to pad ego and WTR in USN DDs.
>>168965896
>IJN DD players angry that nobody else wants to play their shitty waifu line
>>168965240fun_
>>168966347
That just means you're padding your stats.
>>168966807
>not just padding your stats by playing any line
>>168966896
Your argument about not playing the IJN DD line says otherwise.
Has anyone bothered with custom ship weapon sounds since the update?
>>168966970
What, that they're less fun than american DDs?
>>168967264
They can do everything that USN DDs can do, so how are they less fun? Just admit you want to pad your ego and stats.
>>168964542
Seriously, why do US DDs go from having the shittiest torps in the game to having the 2nd best torps in the game.
It's ridiculously unfair
>dropped from rank 2 to rank 4 in one day
when will it end
>>168967482
Again why would anyone play IJN DDs over US DDs? Not everyone wants to play a torpedo boat, believe it or not there are people out there that actually enjoy close range DD knife fighting.
>>168967735
And IJN DDs can do that too?
>>168967761
Yeah, and you can play RU DDs as dedicated torpedo boats if you want, but why bother?
>>168968064
>good shell arc
>good damage
>okay reload
The guns aren't even bad.
>>168968261
And? US guns are better at close range knife fights.
>>168968476
And how does that invalidate the fact that IJN guns can also be used at close ranges?
>>168968574
Because "being worse in every way but not totally unusable" is not exactly a compelling reason to chose them over ships that are good at the role.
>>168968648
So all these comes down to you being able to pad easier in a USN DD. Got it.
>>168968762
>if you're not playing exclusively IJN DDs as knife fighting gunboats you're statpadding.
So all this comes down to you being retarded. Got it.
>>168968971
You could've played RU DDs as well, but you decided to play USN because they're better. Clearly not statpadding, right?
>play Bisko in a t8 match
>king of the seas, tank every bb shell bow-on
>get rekt by dinky patented bong AP instead
is dis joke
wtf op pls nerf bong ap
pls stahp
>>168969201
>not playing both
>using ships for what they're good at is statpadding
>>168969201
>RU DDs are long range pain in the ass for enemy team but get shat on in close range by USN DDsand everything else
>US DDs are versatile, but effective only up to 11km and get demolished by RU DDs in long range engagments
>USN IS CLEARLY BETTER IF YUO PLAY IT YUOR STATSPADDER REEEEEE
wew
>>168969201
>I exclusively play the worst ships in the game because I'm an autist and hate fun, if you use ships that are actually competitive you're statpadding
>>168969731
If you're not playing RU DDs as torpedo boats you're a fucking statpadder.
>>168969523
>>168969731
>>168969882
>implying that isn't so
Playing in a div is statpadding too
>>168969916
This, just saying
>>168969943
Playing this game at all is statpadding unless you're intentionally trying to lose. The only true unicums are the people that do nothing but teamkill at the start of the match and intentionally give bad advice.
pink > purple
>>168969916
I exclusively play the Pensacola as a torp boat, you fucking filthy statpadder.
>not statpadding with USN fighter loadout
Weaklings. Bonus point for not using bombers.
>>168970120
>using planes at all
Protip, your ship (probably) comes with guns. If you're not just using those you're statpadding.
>>168970187
>using weapons
>tfw getting two kills and ez 120k dmg in Der Große using nothing by my thicc body
the salt in the chat was glorious
>>168970187
> Not speccing for manual secondaries, then never using them and only ramming.
You disgust me.
>>168970187
>using guns at all
>not just ramming
This is how you spot a filthy statpadder.
>playing the game
fucking statpadders
>>168970315
>>168970332
>>168970354
this
make triremes great again
>>168965137
>he's never had QT give him all of his smokes so he can have the best time possible in the match
you're missing out anon
>North Carolina class was a counter the Kongo class
>Burger ships were so shit and inferior they had to build a ship in the 40's to counter a ship built in the 10's
Why do Americans think they had good ships again?
>When you have a somewhat decent day
>>168969882
>because I'm an autist and hate fun
But I'm one and I like fun. That doesn't correlate.
I fucking hate my own server sometimes
>>168971280
Considering it was designed in the 20's and launched at the tail end of the 30's you are just a troll.
>>168973648
The North Carolina class was a class of two fast battleships, North Carolina and Washington, built for the United States Navy in the late 1930s and early 1940s
>>168971280
>Yamato class was a counter to virtually every ship in the world
>got owned by a bunch of plons
Why do weebs think they have good naval doctrine again?
>>168974046
>one nation sticks to the treaty which results in an outdated navy
>the other shits all over it thus having better ships
>weebs literally brag about muh honorabru samuraii being backstabbing niggers
toppest kex of all
>>168974131
>>168974249
>american damage control
Stay mad that that your ships were always out dated and inferior to even the small threats like Italy.
Looking through the info of the various ships in each Japan and the US' tech tree, I noticed that the US has like a billion ships in the series for like most of their shit. Pretty expected. What I'm confused by is how the Jap navy was even anything when when looking the at the same shit in the tech tree the most you'll see in the series is like 12. What the hell was the IJN made out of? Like 100 ships?
>>168974842
Quality over quantity.
>>168974842
The Japanese were outnumbered 10 to 1. America really steamrolled them just through production.
>>168974842
And considering that CV-6 Enterprise sank 17% of those ships and damaged a whole lot more.
>>168974916
Overwhelming quantity is a quality in itself too.
>>168975117
>Overwhelming quantity is a quality in itself too.
To bad limp dick american ships only wan though shere force
>muh USofA won only due to superior numbers
>muh IJN was not utterly shit and incompetent
>muh joos
whatever helps you sleep at night you floating warcrime worshippers
>>168975321
Good thing American made many good ship. Oh wait. Not one good ship.
It would be hilarious if everyone gets a free William D. Porter on April 1.
>>168975705
and it comes with auto-aim, but for teammates only. +50% dispersion if you aim at an enemy.
>>168975908
But should have godly AA. But if a plane is shot down near you, you have a chance to be detonated regardless of Detonation flags.
>>168975441
>waaaaah americans had shit ships
>ablooo they won the war cause they were lucky
>reeee grorious nippon filthy gaijnin go home
Those nukes sure hit you hard, didn't they?
>>168976194
Stay mad small dick conolial.
I-is this the feeling of having found botefu?Too bad about the result, but with a game like that, I can't complain
>faildivs patched
>3 man div of two New Yorks and a Nurnberg gets into a t8 match
>lowest ship in the enemy team is Bayern
I wonder why one flank got utterly smashed
>>168976194
>Those nukes
>hit hard
The nukes literally did nothing.
>>168977406
no you just sealclubbed
>>168980236
It makes me think that the first settlers in Nippon were actually lunatics expelled by one of the Chinese emprahs. They were given their own containment island.
ded
>>168980578
Dont talk shit about Japan, you filthy white pig.
>>168980440
Is it still sealclubbing if I'm a literal new too? I really do like the Slav DD line though, do the higher tier ships follow the similar trend of high RoF, decent accuracy guns? I'm pretty sure their torps stay like shit.
>>168980578
>Japan is the /mlp/ of China
I stopped playing months ago.
Is it worth to come back? Is it still world of battleships? Are DD's and CV's still getting nerf after nerf?
>>168982141
BB's still are kings of the sea, and will make up 60% of the lineup. You might see one CV a day. US cruisers got buffed into the sky, and DD's are still useless unless you have the Slav DD's.
>>168981583
>idealized girls are the same thing as wanting to fuck animals
>>168982203
So it's still crap? Meh.
>battleships now have the absolute worst accuracy you've ever seen, but now gain accuracy the longer they're targeting the same ship
does this the game fixed?
>>168982296
And depending on how long its been since you played, Kraut BB's are the king of bullshittery. With the new skills, and such, 10.6km exclusion zone around the ship that will badly maul any CA/CL/DD that comes within that bubble. And that's just the secondary range.
>>168982485
Its more like make BB's have a maximum range of 10-13km and double their dispersion and reduce their damage to just higher than cruiser level.
>>168982227
/v/ then. Besides nipland has given us tons of degenerate stuff over the years, so saying they're mlp isn't too far off.
>>168982493
You forgot about hydro, that makes them more useful in antiDD role than KM cruisers
>>168982756
Oh yeah right. I also forgot to mention they also have higher rate of fire and are impossible to citadel.
>>168982813
And delicious, delicious superstructure to shit all over. :^)
https://youtu.be/eBhh23-paLU
>>168975705
>>168982141
All the shitstorm about the radio location thing was unnecessary, the skill is hardly useful.
There have not been any DD nerf in the recent times iirc.
>>168982203
>and DD's are still useless unless you have the Slav DD's.
Burgers are in one of the best places they've ever been.
>>168983770
It's pretty useful, but it's not breaking the game. The skill rework was fine for DDs and they're still pretty good desu.Outside of the IJN, but >being a weeb
>Yet one more pleasant piece of news: we improved the game logic. Now, for the whole time the Damage Control Party consumable is active, it will assuredly prevent new fires and flooding, and save modules from being incapacitated. No more of that frustrating "damage at the last moment" which many of you have surely experienced before!
Bless you WG.
>>168983770
Meanwhile adrenaline rush and IFHE are broken.
It was all smoke and islands to hide the real game breaking stuff. IFHE might have been one of the best nerds to BBs in a while
>>168984010
Sounds too good to be true
>>168984010
>>168984295
Remember
>WG did this instead of buffing ijn DDs
So I really think it happened
Marko, do smth
>>168984294
>IFHE reduces reliance on fire RNG and the frustration that fires cause for both players while letting cruisers do more damage
and meanwhile AR encourages much less passive gameplay
best change they've done in a while.
>>168984357
>caring about IJN DDs
>>168984295
>>168984357
Are you yoo lazy to open PTS announcement and see for yourself?
After much thinking I have come to the conclusion tiki Fiji is a excellent cursed ship and wtr is generically flawed.
Can we talk about statistic again?
Would count damage in % fix the issue that hunting DDs is bad for wtr?
>>168984294
>adrenaline rush
is actually pretty cool, it's best on US DDs and KM BBs though
>>168984458
>IFHE
Might as well be called 'this buffs prem crusiers and Chapaev', becasue it is pretty much useless on 203mm guns.
Or does it allow 130mm HE to pen 30mm hull?
If yes, it is also good for BALANS DDs.
>>168984870
WTR will remian a useless metric as long as the API is broken.
But generally speaking, yes, damage in % would be a stat worth tracking.
>>168985012
DDs can use it to great effect in some bbs and all cruisers but I duno wich ones. I know akizuki needs it to plow other dds and it doesn't seem to suffer with the low fire chances if you use the flags and skills for it so it's pretty good to secure damage on angled ships as well
>>168985012
>AR on atlanta
>>168984870
It wouldn't matter because the API doesn't spit out that info, part of the reason stuff like WTR will probably always be flawed is because they're limited to what info they can get out of the API. It's not because they don't think those would be good things to track.
This is the same problem that happens any time someone asks "why don't they use X metric".
>>168985012
It's actually useful on 100mm, 127/128mm, and 152/155mm guns, letting them all pen plating/superstructure that they couldn't before.
>>168985229
Flamu said it's okay!
>>168985101
What if the reason api is broken is because WG is trying to change it?
Should they wipe previous statistics or just add new metrics?
>>168985282
It's okay on any ship that relies in dpm
Anything but bbs, and bbs can use it too simply because 7% off their reload is awesome when they are on their last breath and might secure their victory in a duel
>>168985286
It's been like this for years in WoT, it's not changing. Otherwise we would have had base XP a long time ago.
And there's not a chance they'd wipe everyone's stats in the 'live' version of the game.
>>168985413
>7%
If they're on their last breath (~10%HP left) it's almost 20% off their reload.
>playing Bismarck
>start getting pelted with AP from kroozahs
>lose one of my secondary batteries
>>168986638
Cruiser AP nerfed when?
>>168986638
>Playing bong cl
>See cheeky kraut bb having ideas about raiding our ships
>Shoot his bow for 4k a volley
>He panics and run away
Blimey that was really fun
>>168986947
>>168985229
>AR on Dess Memes.
Superior firepower
tbqh, I think AR is more useful on ships with long reloads than not. A Yamato or a Zao benefit more from it than a Gearing.
That said, it's pretty much mandatory on all ships, though other skills take priority over it. Like EM on BBs, or LS on brawling DDs.
>>168988668
It's no brainer skill
But I find JoaT more juicy on most smoke ship
>>168988668
Gearing is great with it just because it has a massive torpedo reload that can be reduced.
ded?
soo what is the point of getting high tier again? to sit around watching your BBs sit at the maps edge and plink at targets 20km away, while cruisers and dds hide in smoke, camp with the BBs, or die instantly?
>>168988668
>A Yamato or a Zao benefit more from it than a Gearing.
It'S a question of how long you actually keep firing.
On Gearing, it's essentially a direct buff to your DPM.
On Yamato or Zao, it's a buff to your reload.
And it can get pretty monstrous on GK, too.
If they make it work on secondaries, I would consider it for all hightier German BBs simply becasue those last two minutes or so before you go down will just melt everything near you.
At that point the GK will essentially have an Atlanta strapped to each side.
wtf, Lunatic keeps blogging, he's becoming more like Anumati now
its like he has now become Anumati 0.6 (0.6 because he's less intelligent than Anumati 1.0)
>>168990157
>blogging
On the discord?
>>168990002
>[insert small ship] strapped to its side
I hate it when people say this
>>168990512
>posting mackie instead of ellie, nozoeme, nicko, oomey or honk
I hate it when people do this
>>168985101
>damage in % would be a stat worth tracking.
Agreed
Got tired of the Saipan... who knew the Scharnhorst could be such beast xD
Please stop tormenting LunaticRed. I know he is an insufferable autist, but you are a worse person for picking on a disabled child. His life's story:
>be LunaticRed
>lineage of failures lives up to their expectations and fails to abort you, gives up after first try
>be born into a shithole, forced to live off government benefits since crippled and mentally deficient
>farm WTR and shitpost to escape depression, so desolate wasteland around you is not a problem
>find friends in SEA playtest group, who are equaly autistic individuals with similar shitposting needs
>lose your ability to play WoWS to your worsening mental state that you may never have had since you were mostly good at farming WTR anyway, forced to make do with just shitposting 24/7 as playing would ruin your stats
>now on edge of committing suicide because your shitposting and inability to play well has led to you being constantly assaulted by online bullies.
Please stop picking on him. Losing a valuable SEA wows forum member and L4D partner would be too much for us.
.t concerned chinkposter
>In version 0.6.2, we made various improvements to the game interface. The most noticeable enhancement – that will also be useful for your battle performance – is the option to display ship names on the Minimap. This option can be enabled in the Minimap settings.
At least the people who are in charge of UI improvements are decent. Now if they could add options for the player panel, I wouldn't need to install mods at all.
>>168929594
i can fill in scrims but i am with APOC currently as a third stringer nobody, also my name changed to HAIL_TO_THE_CHIEF cause reasons.
>>168991026
>APOC
does that stand for A Piece of Shit?
>>168990512
It's dumb, but it is essentially true.
I guess the meme came from the space mode where that one carrier had a space gearing strapped to each side.
>>168990298
maybe. do you want a discord link?
>>168991290
not really
an atlanta strapped to your sides is 2-6k ap salvoes 10km and under every 5s
secondaries just spray a bunch of shit HE
>>168991273
>xD
>blogging
checks out
>>168991273
Wouldnt that be Chit? nah its Task Force Apocalypse.
>>168991356
Try going into close range of a T8+ BB and see how many secondary salvos you can survive. The only reason why they don't tear you up as fast as an Atlanta is due to the accuracy of secondaries.
Does winrate affect Ranked battle matchmaking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbT5RdEMxs
2 months reeeee
>>168991356
Except it's magic German HE that pens all superstructures, and the 15 cm actually pens hulls.
>>168991684
No.
Only ranks.
>>168991106
>the only people who play L4D with him are mako and abru
>abru actually knows how to write in English
hmmmm, I wonder who wrote this post
>>168991767
How? I can't find much info about this
>>168991353
There's a discord?
>>168992432
yeah its full of degenerate unfunny virgin deplorable weebs
>>168992634
>>168992432
Just mute Greg and all of the other cringey blogposters and the discord is good.
>>168992837
Wouldn't that means it's empty? What's the point of going on then?
>>168992837
invite link pl0x
>>168992941
Not all of them are cringey.
>>168992837
I blog on discord so I don't blog here.
/blog
Why do people even blog? No one wants to read their stupid everyday life.
>finished watching nll yeonpyeong haejeon and it got me in the mood for boats again
Is there a referral code for players that haven't been active for a long time or is it strictly for new accounts?
>>168993781
IIRC it works for accounts that haven't played in 90 days.
Why is playing a battleship so fucking frustrating.
It's literally the most unfun class to play.
>>168994536
This is the part where you realize that good players stick with t9/t10 cruisers. They can't handle damage like a BB, but they can shit out damage and disappear while having barrage. Problem is that in a 1v1 fight most BBs will kill you unless you get the drop on them, otherwise you will shit all over them.
>>168994276
Oh thanks anon, yeah on the rewards page for it it says that people who haven't played in 90 days can use it.
If anyone has a code and are on the NA server I would appreciate it.
>>168994739
Here:
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/OwD7qnz
>>168994776
>follow the link and log in
>it logs in with my other account and accepts the invite as my account that I dont use anymore
>I have to log out and do it again as my actual account
I guess you got two more recruits instead of one, thanks anon!
>>168995043
Sweet. Thanks.
>>168992945
https://discord.gg/cSSZx
>>168994697
Unless it's a torpedoless USN CA I have no problem taking a BB 1v1 in a cruiser. Even then with a little wasd magic I can put up a fight. If I have somewhat reasonable HP left. Anything can take a cruiser 1v1 when it has 5% HP left.
BB are just boring and annoying to play. Waiting 30 fucking seconds for reload only to get 1200 dmg overpenetration. I deal AP damage more reliably in literally any cruiser, and if the target is angled, I can just switch to HE. In a BB even if I switch shell type it's still up to RNG whether any of them actually hits the target. The worst part is being under continous fire without being able to hit back due to reload times and accuracy. It got even worse with the abundance of smoke everywhere.
>inb4 t. baBBy crying for buffs
As fucking if. Bullshit devastating strikes are just as unfun as not hitting anything at all. I'd gladly give up that ridiculous citadel meme for better accuracy or anything that'd make the gameplay less frustrating. But then all those le ebin deleters bragging about one shoting cruisers would get mad and cry that BBs got nerfed.
>>168996028
>I have no problem taking a BB 1v1 in a cruiser
only works against shitters and litteral baBBies
>>168996652
Most cruisers can take on a BB no problem. Some are even built for it. You have 2 maybe 3 salvos to sink one if they land all shells on you, if they don't let you score a citadel you're done.
>>168996652
>shitters and litteral baBBies
isn't that basically 95% of the playerbase though
>>168996028
Unless it's a German BB tier 7+, Amagi, or Iowa. If one of those let you close to torpedo range with adequate warning, then they already fucked up.
>>168997687
I'd say between 60% and 80%, but yeah that'S still most of the playerbase.
>>168998582
And if you are that close to one of the german BBs, it's YOU who is fucking up.
Because those krauts just wait for an opportunity for some close range surprise bratwurst action.
Dumb question, is IFHE even worth it on kraut DDs? Thinking of just skipping the first 4 tiers and jump straight to Gaede with my Graf captain
>remembered way back when when world of warships did an event that gave away a neon kongo skin and was themed about some boat anime or something
Do they still do events like this? Or at the very least events at all? Its been so long since I've played.
>>169000856
>way back when
>2 months ago
>>169000907
>2 months ago
But anon I haven't played for at least 6 months
Did they do the event again?
>>169000856
Yes. That went on for about a year and you ended up being able to get a free Atago (one of the best T8 premiums) through it.
They still do events like that now, and probably in the future too, but that specific one isn't going anymore.
>>169000984
Yes. In December tyey did a grand event that allowed you yo grab all 4 neon Kongo, 5 neon Myoko and Takao
>>169000986
>>169001051
>just missed it
Oh well, I guess I'll just installmodsinstead. Thanks anons!
>>168970554
Everyone who has played with you that's not Abrach and Chain said you ragequit after a loss and always pad your damage on BBs that's near a blue line to protect your precious stats.
>>169000297
With IFHE on high tier Ktauts you get ability to directly damage high tier heavy cruisers (bow/stern if we are talking about T10, except USN). For BB changest are until T7, than they get roo thick armor to pen even with IFHE.
Ask yourself is ability to directly damage cruisers really worth it, if on best case scenario you should not even reveal yourself to one
>>169001141
>pad damage on BBs
Your memes are weaker than even you are, wave.
>>169001141
why would they be playing with mako?
>>169000297
Damn it anon, forget what I said.
I forgot that Krauts have option to grab 150mm gun.
So if you are not willing to go past T8, why the hell not?
>>169001134
They also did cute as fuck voices for said ships
>>168995383
sorry bro, its expired.
>>168991026
Dude I remember you, you were my Saipan for 3 games. You're a fucking beast on that cv sadly I haven't reached Rank 5 yet :(
>>169001527
wait why would wave be the one shitposting about him?
>>169001839
https://discord.gg/AnAMw
>>169002004
He isn't, Hotel is just autistic and wants a scapegoat.
>>169002196
Sounds more like false flagging.
>tfw you aren't stalked anymore
>tfw its an existential feel to know that someone cares enough about you to stalk
>>169002757
what do you have to even do to get stalked around here?
seems like it's nothing more than play with people here and have decent stats
Do CV only battles exist?
>>168982485
proofs?
>>169003241
yes
>>169001441
>on best case scenario you should not even reveal yourself to one
Yeah good luck ever torping one without revealing yourself. Marginally smart cruiser captains will stay away from smoke or radar your ass.
>>168971280
there was an attempt
>>169004939
Can we get rid of CVs yet? Jesus Fucking Christ, this class needs to go.
>>169005354
neck yourself, weeb.
>>168991026
>APOC shitters in /wowsg/
>>169005473
>I can remove any ship I want with no loss to me
How is that fair?
>>169005354
>>169005651
>Shitters dying to CVs
>>169004939
>>169005182
>>169005732
Isn't that what BOTES did when they fought Anu?
>>169006194
Yes
>>169006194
>Get rid of CVs
>Anu quits
>botes can win games now
>>169006168
>>169005182
>>169004939
Thanks anon. this was fun to read
https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/02/20/wows-tap-insider-news-20-ii-2017/
>Neustrashimy class t10
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CHINKS WILL GET OP MISSILE BOAT. RU BTFO INTO THE TRASH FOREVER
>>169007969
>copy of an RU ship
>he thinks RU won't be getting it
I suppose the chinks got Anshan so RU won't have the Gnevny either.
>>169006194
The bullying didn't begin with just me, I just made DDs have a hard time. For every ship they would kill, they lost like 4.
>>169008831
Um sorry sweetie but you guys actually lost see >>168854484 >>168851129
>>169009156
>Win every battle
>Lose shitposting war
Shid :DDD
>It's another "The same 2 recurrent shitposters recycling the same old shitposting replying to themselves as they desperately try to remain relevant" episode.
Recaps are always the worst episodes.
>>168974131
Nips literally created CV doctrine.
Yamatos existed only to tank burger BB fleet if a great battle happened.
>>169009682
yamamoto knew what he was doing, turning BBs into CVs
his fleet just didnt knew what to do with it. then they shot in the foot literally right after da emprah told them to prick the huge bear with a needle.
>>169009489
I bet you think you're a cute girl
>>169006194
If CVs actually got kills in ranked, they would just let NeoRussia play his Saipan and wipe Anus's anus and team off the map.
https://thedailybounce.net/2017/02/21/world-of-tanks-streamer-poshybrid-passed-away/
Gregs dad just died wtf
>>169009156
>That image
>That post
>This is your average bote member
No wonder they lost so hard.
>>169013026
>hates fracking
>hates america
this is you average [SpecialForceoperative]
>>169013208
>this is you average [SpecialForceoperative]
>Muh boogeyman
For the last time, I'm not in Anu's clan.though I would join it over botes any day.
>>169013540
You sound like you're about to cry dude wtf
>botes is just a Trump circlejerk
No wonder they lost to Anumati and are bottom tier in the clans.
>>169013753
nah
/wowsg/, how do you decide what upgrades to put on your ship? I tried to search for aguidefor the fuso to see what I should get but I couldnt find anything.
>>169013885
I see where the cum hits the screen
>>169013885
By thinking to yourself, "Hmm, does this make sense?"
>>169014095
Thanks anon
Give me my French battleships.
>>169013540>though I would join it over botes any day.
TSF is open to everyone. SF-3 is just a subbranch of our team 1 of Supremacy League. If you joined you would get an SF tag in game.
>>169013814
Classic Trump response. Don't refute with facts and stats but just say no. Classic.
>>168982141
Make sure you get a referral before playing if it's been more than 3 months.
Here's one for EU: http://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/jwWaGg1
>>169016129gotosleep
>>169016176
>300ConfirmedKills
someone else pls
>>169018194
wtf did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?
Does wows have the same kind of thing going as with wot where NA gets all the good events with free stuff, and eu gets shafted when it comes to events? Asking because I haven't played since beta but would like to start again.
>>169016997I will soon
>>169018469
Yes
Join NA if you like events and like to play with /wowsg/
Join EU if you don't care about events and want a bigger server playerbase
Join SEA if you want tosuffer
>>169018720
>Join SEA if you want tosuffer
Do you guys have working text in chat yet, or is it still all ********?
>>169018789
I think he meant SEA is a server with shitters.
>>169018720
Will the lower pop in the NA server be noticible at all?
I think the NA wot pop is like 5 times lower than eu, but I'm pretty sure you don't really notice it in game much.
>>169019143
No, not really. There's no issues getting games in any tiers that I've been able to tell.
>>169019143
We get 16,000 at peak now a days so it isn't too noticeable.
But mornings and nighttime it dies down to 5,000 players
>>169015948
Soon™
>>169019374
Funny thing is, due to EU being concentrated in 2 time zones, while US is stretched across like 5(?), EU lowest hours are actually way lower (around 1.5k) than NA (2.2k)
So if you want to play during EU nighttime NA is better server
someone HOTEL log into wows eu and divvy up with me pls im bored
>>169021850
Fuck off to NA.
>>169022265
FUCKYOU
>>169021850
>>169022607
>tfw too bad at the game to div with anyone from /wowsg/
>>169023698
Do you realize how utterly horrible you'd have to be for that to be true?
>>169022607
If you wanted to be carried as the unsufferable shitter you are, you should have went to NA.
>>169023698
>tfw knowing that feel
>>169023768
Wait, are you telling me not everyone in this thread is a 90+% WR unicunt?
>>169024134
dude have you seen some of the inane "discussions" we've had here?
greg is just about the worst wowsg and even he can find a div
>>169024892
Yeah by spamming and begging everyone to carry him.
>>169024892
because he spams people with invites until they either block him or give in and carry him
>>169025204
and then he pretends he never wanted to div
it's pretty sad
>>168990002
>If they make it work on secondaries
Keep up my dude
>>169014095
>Rudder shift over DCP2
The answer is 'no'.
Maybe i should really
HEY! This is NOTser!
>>169027643
[15 year old-esque grovelling]
>NA hours
>the thread is shit
>again
when did /wowsg/ get so full of baBBies? i swear it wasn't this bad before
>>169030016
reddit discovered that boards other than /pol/ exists
>>169030016
nigga it's been full of baBBies ever since the start
EU is dull, no namefagging, no autism, no drumpf, no drama...
What the fuck is wrong with you guys, stop acting serious.
>>169031707
>meanwhile EU loses their shit when they finally beat the furryfag after 6 months of trying
>>169031391
I want them to fuck off. These are the same guys that delete Cruisers and DDs with one click but cry and whine to WG whenever they happen to eat two torps
So, been gone a month.
What's changed? Saw the totally balans RU DD, but any other changes to note?
>>169032387
Doesn't really matter what you want.
>>169033207
Google.
>average ranked map
>>169031707
I think people just want to boatspin and div.
At least for now before any serious clan battles start, than we will see full drama,I hope not
Holy shit Des Moines is unstoppable
>>169033207
>What's changed?https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/patch-notes-061/https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/patch-notes-060/
Can someone do Orkz skin for Dakka Moines?
Can someone do a dazzle camo for Minotaur?
>The USN Iowa and South Dakota class battleships have an internal inclined main armor belt. What isn't well known is that they also have a shell plating outside of this belt that acts as a decapping plate. On the South Dakota's, this shell plating is 1.25" thick (3.2 cm) and on the Iowa's it is 1.5" thick (3.81 cm). Using Nathan's formula above, the South Dakota's plating would be sufficient to decap any projectile up to 15.5" (39.4 cm) and the Iowa's plating would be sufficient to decap any projectile up to 18.6" (47.3 cm). This would imply that the Japanese Type 91 18.1" (46 cm) APC projectiles fired by the Yamato would be decapped by the Iowa's shell plating before they reached the main armor belt. Decapping an AP projectile greatly decreases their armor-penetration ability against face-hardened naval armor (unprotected projectile nose now shatters into pieces) at under 45° impact obliquity angle. Changes against softer homogeneous naval armors (decks, for example) are small--primarily due to the loss of the cap's weight.
>>169034443
>Iowa and South Dakota both have special armor schemes
>not only are these schemes not modeled, but both ships have raised citadels
))))))
>>169034642
special armor schemes that would protect against citadel penetration*
>>169032054
>blatantly lying
>>169034443
>that loose dangling anchor
>>169034443
>>169034943
>blatantly lying
>a goddamn fucking screenshot repeatedly getting posted by two EU fags
>>169034443
>Using Nathan's formula above
Link to full article?
Also, is "bow armor" a meme, since plating =/= armor?
Anybody got any sick, HD Webms of WoW in action?
>>169036169
Dunno about WoW but I found this in the archive
https://streamable.com/s5p99
>>169036021
It's from Navweaps tech section.
decapping plates are overhyped, tehy are tiny and a shell would have to be extremely unlucky to actually hit them.
tehy provide some additional protectioan against waterline hits, though.
And yeah, sort of, the ship's shell generally did not make anything but low-velocity splinters bounce off.
>>169036021
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-085.htm
Bunch of other articles in http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_tech.php
>AS Bogue
Wow, thanks to whoever recommended playing USN CVs if you hate CVs, you were right. This is amazing.
>Arpeggio of Blue Steel showing the age of myokos in ranked battle!
>they are so powercreeped its not funny
>you can still buy a P2W ship for ranked, as long as it isnt atlanta
>ranked burning strongly for 30 more days
>mutsu on sale! its tottaly not overpriced! get your own glass cannon on tier 6! detonations guaranteed!
>russian DDs next patch!
>see khaba as a CL with heal! watch as a tier x DD eats trhu 20 tier x planes from the safety of this smoke!
>sightings of AShM on the pan-asia ships, not holding my breath for it because russians didnt got it.
>no known collab being on the works
>not even H A I F U R I or the chink homage to kancercolle, Warship Girls
rise of rank again and again, over and over, only to sink again and again, make the sea turns murky with the oils and salt of your ship, over and over again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCcFEM7QiA&list=PL_1KRMi6SAPlNq3tyecHTnfRggvCfPiAL&index=5
>>169036983
>T9-10 DD will soon get heal
>T8 CA STILL don't have one.
WG why? Atago is still better than Mogami even if both had heal
Why Dess Moines citadel is so different from rest of T6-9 USN cruisers?
>>169009682
Must be nice to live on your weebshit.
Remember Taranto? The british invented carrier torpedo doctrine.
The yellow monkeys took that and perfected.
>>monkey see monkey do
>>169037150
CL mogami greatly outpeformed atagoy before IFHE
now CL mogami is a beast with the turn mod instead of dispersion. 15 shells makes up for any miss, with a excellent fire chances that pen nearly everything. the AP volley is still quite excellent too.
Is this actually useful on any ships or should I just sell them?
>>169036606
>>169036767
Interesting. So that'd mean that shells fired against a ship in bow on position would penetrate through the forecastle and if not decelerated enough to trip the fuses would explode against the citadel bulkhead armor. Combined with the real life longitudinal dispersion of naval guns means that a bow on position is far more dangerous to your ship than showing a broadside, which makes full use of your belt armor and is more likely to let AP shells overpenetrate in unarmored areas.
So this just confirms what I always thought. Bow on is a complete meme and pointless holdover from world of tanks.
>>169037725
hold onto them, WG wants to add trading.
>>169036169
Here's a gem.
Top quality WG programming right there.
>>169038007"DO NOT FIRE AT YOUR ALLIES"
>>169036891
You're welcome. You're now doing The Lord's work.
>>169038007
>Make hundreds of millions of dollars a year on tank game
>Multi-billion dollar company then decides to make bote game
>They behave more like tanks than botes and are riddled with bugs
Top quality product!
>>169038634
i hope this is bait but he was firing at something behind a rock and forgot to set target, so the shells hit wherever the cursor is at
>>169038634
>US DD vs RU DD shell arcs.webm
>>169038929
>he can't do the trick
>>169039034
..trick?
im a shitter qq
>>169034642
In all fairness, why should they? That's just more shit for the game engine to model, 10s of thousands of times every second, maybe more. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
This is just a fucking f2p arcadey videogame in year of our lord and savior 2017.
>>169036891
I told you dog, I fucking told you.
>>169039605
I'm not saying they should model it, I'm saying it's weird as fuck ships with special armor schemes that make them less likely to take citadel damage instead get exposed citadels, making them more vulnerable despite it being the opposite historically.
>>169014095
>aiming systems over secondaries
come on dude you know better
>>169042320
>secondaries
>on Fuso
You have to be kidding me.
>>169042568
>7% less dispersion will literally never be useful
>20% more range on your secondaries will be useful in some rare circumstances
It's basic math.
>>169042964
Post stats kiddo.
>>169042320
>>169027432
You're both retarded.
>>169043130
Post dick bitch.
>>169043187
t. shitter
>>169043273
t. slut
probably a fucking japanese cruiser player enjoy getting penned in all holes whore
How accurate is this chart
>>169044332
It's accurate.
>>169044332
The dispersion ingame is actually circular.
Tell me that this is just the armor viewer fucking up and that Colorado actually has belt armor that reaches farther down than just to the waterline. Tell me there is more protecting my waterline in a slight turn than a 25mm torpedo bulge and an 85mm bulkhead.
Got trolled by Wargaming again.
>>169044736
Fusou also has a 1.5 dispersion sigma
Try again with Montana and Yamato if you want to see a proper elliptical dispersion cone, which almost every other ship has
>>169044332
Accurate. But the "broadside = death" model is better for gameplay, because it adds a risk vs reward element to exposing your guns.
At what point do the cruiser lines for each nation change from CL to CA
>>169045468
When they go from ~15cm guns to ~20.3cm guns.
>>169045468
do you even know what those mean
>Essex
>can choose between being useless against enemy ships or being completely defenseless against enemy fighters
>login
>receive an invitation from greg before my port finishes loading
Is he running a script?
>>169045605
>Essex
>completely defenseless against enemy fighters
>completely
i dont think you know what that word means
>>169045730
It's kind of hard to think one squadron can defend my planes from a Taiho's multiple fighter squadrons or an AS Essex's squadrons.
I'm currently trying out stock right now but it really feels like picking what my huge weakness is going to be, desu.
>>169045468
Ijn get that in furutaka, usn on PepsiCo lá, Russian on tier 9 with 180mm barrels, I don't remember kraut but they also had late tier cas
Bong of course might get them as premium. There were very few of bong CAs
Cute flag.
>>169045904
You're still not COMPLETELY defenseless like you were for the last what, 4 tiers?
>>169046039
I guess.
>>169037735
You are mostly right.
However, an AP shell penetrating teh bow would have to hit at a very specific angle of fall to ever reach the citadel, becasue mosly teh fuze would be triggered by hitting the bow plating.
That would let the shell detonate after travelling maybe 20 meters inside the ship, which can very well mean an explosion in some useless cable locker, wash room or whatever outside th citadel.
And even if it reached the actual armor after travelling through several compartments inthe bow it is highly likely that the shell would have started to tumble or yaw, which in pretty much all cases means 'this will not penetrate the armor, no fucking way ever'
So what does this mean? Not a lot, the bow would eat a few AP pens and that would be it.
In the game, the bow-on meta is an unintended result of WG's armor penetration mechanic, and it is just about teh only really stupid part of that system
They should have gone with a more diverse damage zone setup, that would've avoided the excessive citadel damage crusiers eat and made BB gameplay a lot more dynamic.
But in this case they'd needed a really good tutorial to explain WHY this system works how it works, and as we all know WG is unable to make a tutorial that explains more than the most basic shit.
>>169046013Don't tell me you actually got a Shokaku for SL.
>>169046834what if he already had it?
>>169046893I thought he said he didn't. And the Shokaku is clearly untouched and unplayed. Nor does he have any games logged in Shokaku.
>>169049187
He has it but will only use it if you're good enough for it.
>>169037283
>single attack on ships in a port is the same as CV doctrine
Autism stronk.
>>169046834
I'm considering it. Still retraining the captain and thus haven't bothered to take her out yet.
Not too excited about the idea since I haven't played CV seriously for more than a year. And it would be strictly for scrims anyway, since the one single day of the week in which I literally cannot play WoWS happens to be the same day all of the SL matches happens. Who the hell came up with these schedules anyway?
Still should be useful for the far future whenever WG decides to implement CW/TB-like clan battles, since those would happen every day of the week.
>>169046893
I unlocked her about a year ago, but never bothered to buy until this week.
>one game in the New Mexico
>68 hits, 0 citidels, mostly over pens
>58k damage
>next game
>30 hits, two citadels, mostly pens
>80k damage
I don't understand the penetration mechanics in this game at times.
>>169049546
He's literally right though, if a bit poltarded.
Taranto was proof of concept for Pearl.
>>169049690
You're a good guy, Abrach.
>>169049690
>I haven't played CV seriously for more than a year
Are you a CBTfag?
>>169049732
pens > citadels
pens > overpens
pens > everything
Only ever even "aim for citadels" if "missing" would still get you a pen. It's not worth it otherwise.
>>169037725
It's good for Perth.
>>169045015
>Super League Mission
Have you tried :thinking:?
>>169049738
Brit CV doctrine was hilariously bad. They had horrible two seat fighters that were a complete joke and shitty bombers. And their CVs carried very few planes for their size.
They tested the concept, but nips perfected it.
>>169050060
I get that. It's just like in the I'll hit another ship amidships, get 6 pens, 2 over pens, then reload, aim, hit the same spot then 7 over pens. It feels like playing a slot machine.
>>169045304
unless your a german bb
>>169044780
ive never had a problem woth the colorado's armor. actually I cant even remember any times ive been citadeled in it
>>169050045
He has the alpha flag.
A lot of the well known players around here are CBT fags anyway.
>>169050679
Only asking because cocky CBTfags gave up playing CVs after AA got buffed.
>>169049947
>You will never div with abrach
>>169050891
>you will never be part of the abrach/hotel/chain threesome
>>169050891
>tfw get to div Abrach/Chain when they have a spotI honestly don't like getting carrie
>>169050984
>>169051037
Are there any other QT divs in wowsg? Maybe ones with a vacant spot?
>>169051037
>when they have a spot
wouldn't that be never with hotel around now?
>>169051203
There's times when I'll get a random carry invite from them.
Newfag to this game, mainly getting into it because I build models in my spare time (pic related) and just want to dick around with some ships.
How Pay2win is this game, and can I get buy without spending any money at all? I did play WoT briefly a few years back, and the monetization / microtransaction aspect was really offputting. What tech tree should I start with? I don't really care for the German tree, as I looked at it and most of the top-tier ships never even existed, especially those 1936A with multiple twin 15cm mounts.
>>169051321
I thought they were always playing as 3 now though, since hotel is always online
>>169051156
Do you have to samefag and brag about a division in every general to be a QT div?
>>169051397
postmodels pic
>>169051497
It helps
>>169051397
>How pay2win
Most premium boats are slightly better than their non-premium counterparts, but the non-premium boats are already good. You'll need to pay up if you want extra slots for inventory though, but you can get by if you know what you want and plan accordingly.
>Tech trees
>IJN DDs for torpedo boats
>RU/US DDs for gunboats, though US torps rival IJN at tier 8(?)
>German BBs are good at close range for brawling
>IJN has good CVs like the Taiho
>All countries have decent cruisers at later tiers
>IJN BBs only get good at T5 Kongo
>None of the US BBs are really horrible
>>169051414
It's usually when Abrach isn't there and Type-59_Chomp is feeling nice.
>>169051397
Are you the guy from the model building general who built that Indi not long ago?
>>169052274
>model building generalHow do I get there?
>>169052323It's on /toy/, I've only started going there recently because I've been getting into building muh botefu.
>>169051596
Here
>>169052190
Thanks for the tips, how are the US Cruisers, that's what I'm most interested in playing, mostly to play a New Orleans class.
>>169052274
Yes, that's me. Still working on a 1/700 USS Tuscaloosa right now actually, but I've been very busy with other stuff in life to do too much work on it.
>>169052323
>>>/toy/6197555
>>169052483who is your botefuthis is important
>>169052483
>tfw build models of my planefu and tankfu
>to scared to build my boatfu
>>169052759
>tfw kinda sorta maybe want to try model building
>Scared Ill just fuck up and waste money
>>169016148
but Anus is one of the biggest Trumptard though
>>169053034
>tfw enjoy building models
>terrible at painting so they always looks plain and boring
>>169052561
You make some great botes anon, it's people like you and the other model builders around here that inspired me to get into it.
The US cruisers aren't the best line, but they got buffed recently and you can certainly do well in them.
>>169052607Yamato HotelThough I'm not the same guy that posts my build in the scale model threads, that's someone else.
>>169050086
>thinking
Absolutely. I double checked a second after I posted and realized I was still Rank 2. Was quite the reddening of my cheeks, I assure you.
>>169049546
>I don't like what he says, make it go away
>Ill just call him a autist !
You are far worse of what you accuse him of. Even if autism is in no way related to the way he argues.
>>169055573
Thinking is hard, anon.
Go shopping instead.
>>169050086
>It's good for Perth.
Mfw i have Perth.
-Supercontainer never
-Consumables shop never
>>169053034
>tfw the largest model I ever had was a Thunderbolt from 40k
>tfw love it, but its OH GOD WHAT HOW DO YOU FLY
>>169056014
>OH GOD WHAT HOW DO YOU FLY
THE DIVINE HOLINESS OF THE MACHINE GOD ALLOWS IT TO FLY
>>169056447
Anon. I love 40k more than anything in the world, doesn't mean that some of the designs are JESUS CHRISTO tier.
For the BOTES SL friends who don't check Discord regularly:
I have posted a weekly event roster so that we can keep track of how many are available for each event so that we don't run into problems of "lolnoCV" or "lolnotenoughpeople" 5 minutes before a scrim is due to start. I will keep it updated as accurately as I can on a weekly basis with times and dates of official league matches and scrims.
Link to the relevant Google Sheets is pinned in the #botes channel on Discord. Please go fill it out yourself or have your Discord-savvy significant other in BOTES fill it out for you.
Thank you.
>Error: Upload failed.
Well, fuck you, too, 4chan.
This is going to be a fun ranked season
>>169056671
You are pretty much retarded if you haven't been able to figure out why people refuse to join that channel. Have you ever considered for a minute, people do not want to join a Discord with literal pedophiles and shitposters? You can setup your own Discord channel for free or rent a TS3 server for free if you know the right people.
>>169057029
But everyone on the team has signed on to the Discord and posted in the channel. In short, shitposter be gone!
>>169057152
I'm not in it.
>>169037735
>Tanks on water
welp.
>>169057276
If you are the one person that no one can get a hold of and has shown up to no events, then you really need to get on the Discord or respond to messages in-game before you get kicked since everyone's wondering where you are.
>>169057152
Not everyone actively hangs out in the discord though. I don't blame them either, it's just filled with /pol/shit and pedoshit.
>>169057779
Exactly. Which is why I made a FYI post here so people can check it and leave.
SUMMONINGAYYBRACH
>tfw no rocket naval attacks in WoWs
>tfw no mixed attack aircraft in WoWs
>tfw planefu will never be in WoWs
https://my.mixtape.moe/culseu.jpg
>>169057935
>being this dense
D-do you have autism, Prec?
>>169058043(You)
>>169057992
youre planefu is ugly
>>169058124
>youre planefu is ugly
Do not bully turboprops.
>>169058205
>greentext quorting a 4 word post
for what purpose
>>169058253
Because all I want are rocket attacks in WoWs. Even as a option to replace DB/TB's. It'd shake up the meta a bit.
https://my.mixtape.moe/ppvxxh.jpg
>>169058489
why are you hot linking medium sized images on 4chan
>>169058921
Because images are borked on 4chan right now. Can't upload images.
>>169058969
ah shiiiiiet
>tfw can't botepost
Suffering.
https://ibb.co/dRgr3v
>tfw American carriers will never know the bias of 2000 pound bomb, two Tiny Tim's and 12 HVAR's
WG please.
>IFHE is balance)))))
>Nerfs fire chance))))))))))))))))
>Is no problem tovarish)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>Cant post images
fug how am i supposed to blog like this
>queue up
>pink 3-man DD div
oh no
Is there still a way for me to get the Takao?
ded site
>>169064601
Well that suck. I was also hoping to get the Kirishima as well but was too late for her.
>it's an "enemy carriers both decide to focus fire you down and your team does nothing to help you" episode
What if instead of forts having guns that just blapped everything, it was airfields that had HS-129/PBJ/H8K/Mosquito/etc anti-shipping planes? You'd come under near constant torpedo/dive bomber attack, but instead of being full squadrons it'd be 2-3 planes.
Would that make the 'Fort' game mode work?
>>169065329
It'd certainly be more interactive.
Small shipping (like DEs or even transport botes) that could be blown up/protected might be another neat way to do it, maybe you get points for every one of them that makes it to a cap or something.
Basically something that doesn't just murder players would be a better way to go at it, that way people aren't having to run away from the AI and aren't having a bunch less stuff to shoot at because friendly AI killed it all.
>german T4 DD, obviously fragile, but it's not terrible, I can duke it out with enemies provided i'm careful / dodgey / don't go in too balls-deep
>T5, get absolutely shredded by anything I come across, die in about a minute every single match even when I'm trying to be stealthy / evasive
what the fuck
>>169065803
Well the anti-shipping boats wouldn't have a lot of damage, but it /could/ add up over time if you didn't shell the airfields, but it wouldn't be the rape that the Forts used to be.
>>169066038
Both of them are tier 4s except one of them sees tier 3/4/5 and the other sees 4/5/6/7
>>169066038
T5 is a slog for most DDs
>>169065329
New fort will use missile that reload faster than Akizuki and surveillance station that give permanent soviet radar.
>>168914247
>Called out devs for alcohol xonsumption while coding and the results of it.
>chat banned for a week by wannabe Judge Dredd
>>169066262
Execpt I've seen T22 get 4 kills. The other t5 dd's are a pain alright.
>T10 BB afk for 13 minutes
>enemies finally get within 15km of him
>he suddenly starts reversing and turning his stern so he's sailing towards the enemy backwards
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............
>tfw alway stuck with shitty passive teams that won't push if there's more than one enemy ship on a flank
Also I want moot back. Death to chink moot.
>>169068402
>the epic "german DDs are amazing" meme
The T-22 is absolute trash. It has:
>shit guns
>shit speed
>shit health
>shit concealment
>suicidal post-firing concealment
>shit smoke
>shit maneuverability
>no hydroacoustic
>OK torpedos
Even if you say that German ships are the best, it's impossible to argue that the T-22 is a good DD. Anyone who could do well in a T-22 would do infinitely better in literally any other T5 DD.
Boteposting!
ded thread
borked images
>autistic arguing in the /wowsg/ discord about why the great wall of china was built, whether or not the holocaust was real, why lunaticred eats dog, and whether yuri is pure
what next? actual discussion about world of warships?
>waah stop talking about things i dont liek in a CHATROOM
>i know i'll bring this discussion to my safespace and call it autism!!!!!!
>thatll show them hehe
Good work as always, shitposter-kun
>>169073796
containment channel serving it's purpose.
>>169074274
>serving it is purpose
??
Why does coop even exist? God damn stupid casuals dragging me into coop matches despite clearly stating that I do not wish to play coop games due to their non-existent payout
>Only models I have are anime based
>>169075686
>hurrr durrr I'm autistic.
>>169075887
Doubt so as I do not play coop
>>169076219
where are onions?
ded
>>169070628
When subs are added everyone will be glad they trained German dds
Of course by then everyone will be sad subs are in game, but that's just another different type of salt to farm as a CAsual/CLit player
>the new weapon system being added is not AShM it is ASW
I'm ready for it
>>169077560
>When subs are added
>>169075686
>not having fun with friends and discovering you were on coop after getting a kraken and no medal
>not getting even on them by taking them to a training match against 5 hakuyus
It's like you don't expect to be trolled on 4chins
>>169077560
>the new weapon system being added is not AShM it is ASW
>Russian DDs (including Smeliy, Neustrashimiy and Project 56) will get some new weapon type
>implying it's not AShM
>>169077839
>>169077560
The new weapon system is not AShM or ASW
It's mines. Deal with it.
>>169078084
>It's mines
now we're talking
>>169069808
Chinks are retarded.
>IFHE on cleveland
>hug some comfy island or hide in a smoke
>deliver regular HE mortar volleys for 4k+ dmg while covering enemy ships in dragon's breath
GREAT
AGAIN
why is the pts down?
>>168964542
US dd's have the biggest front ends its almost similarthe nose knows
>>169071501
>those skelly lower legs
ded
Just logged in to see I got my prize(s) for sinking a member of the Corgi fleet: 20 random containers, 1k doubloons, 50 dragon flags, and a qt corgi flag
>>169078084
Could also be SAMs.
>>169037283
Oops shouldnt have said "perfected" m8
>monkey see monkey do better :^)
I want to a destroyer.
Why do shitters with inflated win rates and egos only play DDs here?
>>169085490
I want to be pinned to a bed as a bunch of tiny hulls take turns victimizing my dick
>>169085579
Because it's easiest to pad in a DD.
>>169085579
>there are people who don't play all 3 classes equally
>>169085827
>all 3 classes
>all 3
>3
>>169086061
Yes?
>>169078762
>Due to a bug I can't retrain my Cleve captain for penetrating napalm
Life is truly suffering.
>>169086061
I counted only three classes in a T9 match
>>169076117
then how the fuck do you get "dragged into them"
>>169086061
Carriers don't count as a full class so long as there's only one nation that has them.
>>169085579
>shitters with inflated win rates and egos
like who? the biggest egos around here are anu and wave, and neither of them are really DD only players
>>169086350
I don't think Anu and Wave have egos, they are always there to help me when I have questions unlike others here.
>>169086663
According to potatoes, all exceptionally good players have egos for some reason.
>>169086663
that isn't really related to if they have an inflated ego or not
there's not that many people here that haven't been helpful whenever I've actually asked them
>>169086850
They've div'd with many anons from here in the past but the same can't be said about certain people.
>>169086826
When they start describing other top players on the server by saying that they're one of the few other players they think is as good as them, they probably have an ego.
>>168922430
Also, NA spends the most cash per capita on the game but RU by virtue of its huge size is the still the main profit center for Wargaming.
>>169087231
Proofs?
>>169086984
>but the same can't be said about certain people.
I really can't think of anyone that will just refuse to play with other anons no matter how many times you invite them
>>168967664
Because back when IJN DDs had the best torps the baBBies whined really hard until IJN torps got nerfed into oblivion via massive spotting range than makes them easy for any non-potato to dodge.
>>169087339
The problem really was 3-4 Shimakazes per game throwing out 45-60 torp skill walls every 2 minutes or less.
This is because carriers were nerfed due to whining baBBies and DDs essentially had free reign.
>>169087339
And the US DDs got to keep their stealthy fast torps. Probably because games were filled with Shimakazes shitting out walls of torpedoes from 20km away, which is pretty fucking cancerous gameplay.
It's just that they went overboard and kept nerfing the ships instead of just the giant range torpedoes.
>>169087449
Yeah, woe the poor CVs! Because the game was so much better back when CVs had free reign to one-shot, or *only* severely cripple a Yamato, literally everybody they pleased."No."
I want a destroyer to bully me.
>>169088297
I want to bully a destroyer.
>>169088503
Ducks are for bullying.
>>169087902
>Misrepresentin the argument of the anon you replied to.
Aside from the fact that there are hips tha squadrons can barely touch w/out being shredded with no survivors.
>>169087231
No. EU is the biggest cash cow in WoWS
EU last 3 month had around 1-2k (lets even say 4k) less server population on average, while average EU player pays about 3 times that of RU player
>>169087449
>carriers are the only counter to DDs
If only that had been true.
CVs were the perfet coutner to everything, the best scouts and the only 'counter' to them was blobbing up.
And even that meant that teh CV could only delete one ship per strike on the edge of the blob, and lost a couple of planes.
The simple fact is that CVs preferred to delete BBs and CAs instead of fighting the DDs, because why bother with learning to properly cross-drop a Shima when you can simply draw a box around ally your plans and click on a Hotel or Izumo for a free kill?
The whole CV class, plane and AA system needs an overhaul.
The mere idea shown in this carriers are in the middle of the class triangle and can just shit over everything by design was fucking retarded.
Just as retarded as having cruisers that are supposed to counter DDs and CVs, but actually can't find the former and (unless they use radar) and are worse than BBs at the latter (unless they use barrage), but excel at setting fire to BBs while constantly facing the possibility of losing half their hitpoints to a single AP salvo by that very same BB.
>>169089668
Hes upset that solo Yamatos actually got historically rekt by airpower. He won't be able to counter my points and will just ad hominem, until he thinks hes won.
I sometimes get hit while being undetected in smoke but I don't call the enemy cheater because I know that he just got lucky.
>>169089668
What's the point of having AA if it doesn't actually work? The entire USN line trades off surface power for AA.
CVs are still perfectly capable of getting good damage, but they have to actually work for it now. Which is why there are so many butthurt CVnts still whining about the CV nerfs, they want their easypadding 90% WR class back.
>>169091021
>tfw you blob up
>AA rolls aren't added up but are actually individual rolls
This system is stupid. The AA should be pooled up instead of the CA and BBs doing rolls and the lucky one gets a plane kill and continue rolling till all the planes die.
>>169091212
>the only one in the team that actually tried to play the fucking objective
>rest of the team is still at spawn
>enemy team is about to cap 2 points unchallenged
I sometimes do suicide runs when I see shit like this.
>be CA
>escort DD to a cap
>DD decides to fuck off halfway and goes in the opposite direction
>detected by enemy DD
>can't do shit about it
>incoming rain of death
>if I start turning I'm doomed
>if I proceed maybe I can at least take out that DD
>>169090792
>solo yamatos
Lets be real here. It doesnt matter if its in a group or not. It still gets deleted by a CV strike. The only difference is if its in a group, the CV might lose more than half of the participating planes by the time they're pulling out rather than losing zero.
>>169091649
>suicide into the enemy spawn
>"playing for the objective bro"
kys lunatic
>>169091713
t. bluelining baBBy doing everything he can
>No subs
>No supply/repair ships
>No further splits into things like aviation BBs/CAs
>Ever
Actually the last one sounds like a bad idea wirh the current state of gameplay. Fuck these would all actually encourage passive smoke gameplay.
>>169091212
If the CA was on a point, it'd be fine. But I'm assuming that image is of that single point mode.
>>169091819
I would rather have bluelining BBs rather than autistic CAs charging into the enemy spawn tbqh.
>>169091846
if you want a game where subs and repair ships play a role, it'd have to be on a grander scale than WoWS.
>>169091948
I guess it'll have to be like a slower, multiplayer version of starcraft 2 where every unit has a specific role to fulfill instead of half the roster being "kill the other side".
>>169090784
>and are worse than BBs at the latter
2/3 T10 cruisers are better than BB of same nation in AA.
I am not sure about Zao, but pretty sure it is same
>mfw playing des moines with adrenaline rush at 10% hp
this isn't even my final form MOTHAFUCKAHZ
I had 70% WR
Had
>tfw no qt hotel gf
>my botefu is 6+ feet tall and I am 5'7"
>as admiral I do tend to be small but she does not mind
>she wants me anyway
>limits me on who I can enjoy
>>169092271
Well, sort of.
But SC2 is probably a bad example, as ships tend to be way less specialized than SC units.
It's take more time per game, probalby around 40 minutes or so, and it would probab ly have to include some sort of escalation mechanic, i.e. it starts with subs and patrol planes and corvettes searching, attacking and defending NPC merchant ships, then heavier units (cruisers, fleet DDs, maybe long-range level bombers) enter the fight, and by the end you get a full-blown sea battle with carriers and battleships.
>>169092574
>des moines
>crush your citpussy with the force of Type 91 AP shells
>>169093295
>overpen
lel
>>169093329
>hitting just at water level broadside
>citpussy penetrated x3
>des moines visits Davey Jones Locker
>shima gets hungry
>>169092574
But did you install reload module?
>>169093148
I guess subs and minelaying ships setting up would be the first phase of the game. If hydro extended to that as well it'll give hydro a place in the game instead of people usually running radar.
Or we could let it be the slugfest that is Planetside 2please no, I actually like your idea.
>>169093545
>shimakaze
>hitting des moines citadel
>>169090784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4RfX7z-MYs
>CVs were the perfet coutner to everything, the best scouts and the only 'counter' to them was blobbing up.
False but its what shitters thought.
>And even that meant that teh CV could only delete one ship per strike on the edge of the blob, and lost a couple of planes.
"Wow this ship can hit me while sacrificing planes and not getting efficient strikes in, how dare he be smart and not go after ships in the middle!"
>The simple fact is that CVs preferred to delete BBs and CAs?
Guess what wins games? C'mon, I will give you a pass. Its killing ships. There are no real rewards for doing anything else.
>click on a Hotel or Izumo for a free kill?
"Wow this carrier can kill solo BBs easily that are high threats to the team"
>The whole CV class, plane and AA system needs an overhaul.
Agreed, but guess whats going to happen? All thats happening for the CV rework in 2-3 months from what I've been told is the removal of commit circles and UFO planes for commit circle removal. I imagine WG might cram something else in there.
>Rest of your post
All agreed on, but not the point of this discussion.
>>169091021
>What's the point of having AA if it doesn't actually work?https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5vbs44/top_30_aa_guns_in_game_or_why_aa_is_a_british/
Turns out AA actually does work, you are just bad.
But also, we just have high 80+ percent winrates mostly now because all the shitters don't know how to adapt to a CV.
>>169091209
Whats that? Functioning non-stupid mechanics? Cannot be havings.
>>169091701
Sure lets be real. Solo BBs deserve to get punished and CVs of course are going to be hampered by attacking groups. Losing half an airgroup fucking hurts.
>>169092492
Barrage means that at every nation that isn't USN can just substitute for them and completely negate USN's niche.
>>169094418
>losing half an airgroup fucking hurts
>losing 10-15 of a hak or midway's 100+ planes fucking hurts
You physically cannot lose even close to all of your planes in the 20 minute span of a match. There simply isnt enough time. The most i've ever seen a high tier CV lose in a match is 65 and that was between him relentlessly attacking a NC with a balti escort and the opposing CV being AS. He still solo killed both the NC and Balti so theres that.
>>169093607
I'd implement hydro in a different way.
Those ships that have it would be the ones actually capable of doing ASW, and they'd have a chance of hearing enemy ships moving at high speed near them.
Instead of having it actiavete instantly and being on a cooldown, it'd be tied to your own ship's speed.
RADAR would also be a permanent thing that you can turn on or off.
If turned on, it sweeps the area around you for ships (and planes, if you have the upgrades for that) but tit wuould allow enemy ships equipped with RDF gear to detect you and get a bearing on you.
It'd be a more complex game, so I dobt anyone would ever risk making it, and since I don't have the skills or money to set it up I'm reduced to talking about it on an anonymous tibetan yak-butter discussion board.
>>169095306
Completely and utterly false. You don't even play CVs, let alone t10s.
A 2/3/2 Hak has 31 spare TBs and a 2/3/3 has 28 spare TBs
With 12 in the air, losing half of them on an attack run minimum is about 4-5 runs total, the length of a match is about the time a t10 will run out of spares. The reality is that CVs can and will lose more than half the attacking squadrons in a pass.
This takes into account a pure white room scenario with no other CV or other ships attacking a BB. Fact of the matter is that AA specc'd ships will down planes. A CV isn't just fighting you, hes fighting all 12 at once.
>>169095758
You're not going to stop until AA is basically pointless again, are you?
I want to cuddle a big shipgirl
>>169094418
>weebshit 'music'
pic related
>False
No, CVnt. It's the truth, but you and your CVnt friends will try to defend these abilites because they allowed you to get 70%+ WR.
>this ship can hit me while sacrificing planes
It can delete anything it clicks on, for teh whole game, without losing hitpoints or combat capability or anything at all, and it can keep doing so for 20 minutes. Absolutely broken by design.
>Guess what wins games?
Caps, denying the enemy team vision and map control, but since CVnts get two of those three for free without even trying, it's no wonder that you fail to understand the basics of the game that are obvious to the people playing actual warships.
Keep begging to get your clicking powers back. Or masturbate to you memories of clicking things out of the game with zero skill, I guess.
>>169094418
>Agreed
>All agreed on
It's highly entertaining how you manage to doublethink.
You actually see the problems, but at the same time you want your precious CVs back into their completely broken state so much that you would break the whole game again.
>>169096143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5lttpeuc70
>You're not going to stop until AA is basically pointless again, are you?
Mate its either a completely unstoppable wall of AA that makes no sense or a completely pointless pea shooter.
Most ships fit into the unstoppable wall category when they they have basic understanding of mechanics or what they are doing.
I'm correcting your incorrect arguments. If you can't handle being corrected, don't argue on an anonymous imageboard.
>>169096353
>Mate its either a completely unstoppable wall of AA that makes no sense or a completely pointless pea shooter.
Welcome to the difference in VT fuses and axis technology
>I'm correcting your incorrect arguments. If you can't handle being corrected, don't argue on an anonymous imageboard.
Pitty I'm not the guy that can't spell the.
>>169096212
But you posted a normal BB and a short admiral
>>169090784
Wheres that video about WoW game balance?
>>169096353
>Most ships fit into the unstoppable wall category when they they have basic understanding of mechanics or what they are doing.
what in the unholy motherfuck did he mean by this
>>169090784
>>169097070
Wait nevermind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX8URSUWm0
)))))))))
>>169095758
Just trying to say something is false doesnt magically make it so. The only time a CV has any risk of losing half of the planes in a squadron is if you intentionally attack a ball of USN AA spec'd ships. Typically you'd be unfortunate to lose around 5 planes in a normal attack run on a ball of ships that dont include USN. Not to mention most matches typically end before the 20 minute mark therefore you cannot hope to lose all of your planes before the end of a match except in those few 20 minute cases if you're to be believed. Oh and lets not forget, as a match goes on, fewer ships will be present on a team. Now that its a 5v5, you can easily kill them with no resistance whatsoever or they group up in a futile attempt to counter you thereby throwing the match because that action relinquishes cap control. How can you say with a straight face that needing at least 5 ships to sometimes manage to counter 1 is in any way balanced?
>>169097074
The unstoppable wall still allows torps to be dropped. Only the planes are destroyed. Certainly unstoppable.
>>169096350
>Not liking weeb music
Reeee
>No, CVnt. It's the truth, but you and your CVnt friends will try to defend these abilites because they allowed you to get 70%+ WR.
What friends? Glad to know you are jealous of better players.
>can delete anything it clicks on, for teh whole game, without losing hitpoints or combat capability or anything at all, and it can keep doing so for 20 minutes. Absolutely broken by design.
What are battleships with unlimited ammo or stealth firing cruisers/DDs.
>Caps, denying the enemy team vision and map control, but since CVnts get two of those three for free without even trying, it's no wonder that you fail to understand the basics of the game that are obvious to the people playing actual warships.
>Caps, denying the enemy team vision and map control
CVs can't control any part of the map, all they can do is hope that a ship with bad AA wanders in, like an IJN DD or non AA spec USN DD. Denying the enemy team vision revolves around killing DDs or shooting down planes. Most of that is blocked anyway by smoke. CVs cannot even contest caps.
>Keep begging to get your clicking powers back. Or masturbate to you memories of clicking things out of the game with zero skill, I guess.
They are coming back, not in the way you want or I want.
>It's highly entertaining how you manage to doublethink.
No, you just are dumb. Cruisers/DDs ignoring BB armor for an entire match while burning them down is stupid.
BBs being able to delete things anywhere on the map in range with a single click is dumb as well.
Meanwhile against CVs.
>Spot planes at 8km out
>Either A, completely delete the squadron as they approach
>B, turn away while shooting down planes and barely take any damage
>C, turn with bad AA and shoot down some planes while taking some damage
>D, Don't do anything while having decent AA and die like an idiot
>>169096685
>Welcome to the difference in VT fuses and axis technology
No thats WG's bad AA mechanics system.
>>169096353
>most ships
>unstoppable wall of AA
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>arguing with CVnts
for what purpose
>>169097175
Still brings a smile to my face after all those years.
>>169097524
>50% of the options consist of taking damage
>25% are on limited ships
>other 25% might as well be in the 50%
pls stop getting salty
pls engage your bilge pumps to remove excess salt water
>>169097301
>The only time a CV has any risk of losing half of the planes in a squadron is if you intentionally attack a ball of USN AA spec'd ships.
Or you know an AA spec non USN ship
Or that stealth AA firing RN CL
Or those C hull AA spec USN DDs or just defensive AA
Or any ship with barrage really
>therefore you cannot hope to lose all of your planes before the end of a match except in those few 20 minute cases if you're to be believed.
Again, you don't even play CVs do you? Signs point to no because this is false.
>Now that its a 5v5, you can easily kill them with no resistance whatsoever or they group up in a futile attempt to counter you thereby throwing the match because that action relinquishes cap control. How can you say with a straight face that needing at least 5 ships to sometimes manage to counter 1 is in any way balanced?
Because even 5v5 matches just magically happen all the time right? You still are just making broad assumptions as if they are valid argument even when its completely false.
>>169097849
>Being upset that you have to actually play against other ship types and cannot just be immune all the time.
>>169097849
>consist of taking damage
Thats understating it. It should be taking severe damage or just straight up being devastating struck.
>>169091021
>Which is why there are so many butthurt CVnts still whining about the CV nerfs, they want their easypadding 90% WR class back.
That's nice shifting attention on disstatisified pre-nerf cv players. While I was actually asking you why you view a CV as a big mean Bogeyman.
Maybe you don't know that teamwork defeats them ?
>>169098021
>other ship classes have ways of defending against damage
>DDs and cruisers with speed and agility to dodge shells
>BBs with armor
>CV is able to deal confirmed damage
Playing CVnts is easy, I just wish the UI wasn't so fucking frustrating and unintuitive. If I could actually do the things I want to do within the realm of what is permitted by the game mechanics, that would be great.
>>169098021
Because all matches consist of an 11-2 stomp right? On average, it will be something like a 7v5 give or take. Im inclined to believe you dont play anything other than CVs if you honestly think you're losing half of your entire air group to fucking C-hull USN DDs of all things and that its a common occurence at that. Holy shit dude.
>>169098128
>you don't know that teamwork defeats them ?
not him but why is this okay?
no other ship type in the game absolutely requires teamwork to fight, even against their supposed "counters", so why are cvs the exception?
>>169098887
Because, CV's should be able to shit on single ships or dual ships. Thats their whole point you fuck.
>>169097524
>What friends?
>better players.
You practically belong the clique of STs and their CVnt fanbois, there is no point denying it.
Also, the type of 'better' player who has 2k games in a pre-nerf hakuryu is not worth mentioning here.
>CVs can't control any part of the map
lol
CVs can control parts of the map simply by forcing the enemy to blob up and killing solo ships, (which is actually fine), and they can deny the enemy vision by killing DDs, and gain vision by simply sending a plane somewhere.
They cannot directly contest caps, but they can reset an enemy that is trying to cap, especially in standard battle.
You obviously know all this, but want to keep all these abilities that make your class very powerful. This is understandable, but it is terrible for the game and balancing.
>They are coming back, not in the way you want or I want.
I have complete faith in WG, they will find a way that will make the CVnts rage in disappointment and everyone else vomit in disgust.
>Cruisers/DDs ignoring BB armor for an entire match while burning them down is stupid.
BBs being able to delete things anywhere on the map in range with a single click is dumb as well.
You are right. And I would vatly prefer changes to HE and Fire, and to AP and citadel/other sections damage, but WG flat out stated that those are not going to happen.
So we can simply quit debating those and focus on the things that actually might see changes, namely CVs, AA and planes.
>A, completely delete the squadron as they approach
Impossible, unless it's a -2 tier CV attacking a USN BB, or a CA with active barrage
>B, turn away while shooting down planes and barely take any damage
Impossible, might work if the CV is a complete retard and only uses autodrop, will oly happen agains lowtier CVs
>C, turn with bad AA and shoot down some planes while taking some damage
>D, Don't do anything while having decent AA and die like an idiot
C happens most of the time, D happens against most baBBies
>>169098887
He'll never answer that. Hes been asked that several times over the course of the previous threads but will just brush it aside. Theres a reason there is a limit to the number of CVs on a team. Just like the limit to DDs on a team. CA and BB just fill in the left over spaces. Oh yeah. The fact you can only bring one CV in on a div speaks volumes about its strength.
>>169099009
>CVnts arguing they should shit on everyone
>shitting on my minotaur with 95 AA rating
>>169099009
Except they shit all over groups too. Its just they have to sacrifice a couple planes on some occasions to do it.
>>169097654
It's fun.
Pointless of course, but this thread exists for the purpose of entertainment related to this voska-fueled botegame, so why not?
>>169099371
It's because of ships like the Minotaur that the CVnts are crying.
>>169099470
Yeah, how DARE a cuiser actually SHOOT DOWN PLANES?
>>169099609
But CVs should be able to delete anything they want without losing any planes.
>>169099421
Yeah, but why would I risk losing my whole air group to do sub par damage.
>>169099609
>>169099470
>>169099371
>Cruisers
>effective AAA fire
Pick one.
>>169099470
>It's because of ships like the Minotaur that the CVnts are crying.
Projecting much ? The most rabid hatemongeriing is coming from you-against cv's.
By the way, for "kill xx" plane events it's just useful to have a Bogue, cv plaer or not.
Thank god statskun list only proves that most of /wowsg/ is a bunch of absolute shitters with very little grasp on good play.
>>169099609
>>169099685
And now he's replying to himself in some schizophrenic rage.
>>169099727
>risk losing my whole air group
>doing sub par damage
Losing a few planes isnt losing a whole air group
Deleting a ship in a group isnt sub par damage
>he thinks there's only one person arguing with him
Pretty sad desu
>A certain autist is back to peddling his proCV propaganda here
>People still think they can discuss and reason with him
>/wowsg/
>>169100348
>/wowsg/
>good
>>169100145
Not bad, but I suggest you throw in a few more random buzzwords to "support" your ärgument" better.
>>169100492
kys luger!!!
>Minotaur stops in range to smoke shoot targets
>my bratwurst slows down just in time to guard him and remain behind smoke
>planes approach
>they start closing in
>planes gone
>>169100474
That's a good joke.
who the fuck is shitposting who anymore
>>169100659
Anu has been samefagging since the start.
>>169100659
Anumati. It's pretty obvious, but the oldguard is no longer around, so he has free reign again
RIP abrach, greg and wave
>>169100697
>Muh boogeyman
>>169100893
There are three people postign arguemtns that counter his funny 'pls buff CV' posts, but it won'T stop him.
He is going to post mroe walls of text, with slightly autistic weeb images, and then fly into a full shitposting spree with just insults and weeb images.
It's a bit sad, because he does have a basic understanding of the game.
Should I buy Izumo or North Carolina?
>>169101174
Depends on what you want. If you want a decent ship at a decent tier, get NC. If you just really want Yamato, get Izumo.
>>169101769
Don't push people to the Cancerous USN line.
>>169101174
Montana is the best T10 battleship so I recommend North Cal
>>169102203
>Montana is the best T10 battleship
Hey I need an RU server invite code or any RU codes please.
>>169102629
>>169104162
>>169104162
>WAHWAHWAHWAONLY 4 KILLS WAH WHY DO TEHY HURT MY FLOATING STEEL CASTLE
litteral baBBie
It was a mistake to stop gassing them.
>>169104162
>Selling Hotel
>hotelfags sperging out
Hilarious.
new
>>169107301
>>169099856
Or how to make stats