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The Jamming Hast Begun Edition

Last: >>168515481

>What is this?
A place to discuss all rogue-lites and related games and topics. Examples: The Binding of Isaac, Nuclear Throne, Enter the Gungeon, Faster than Light, Spelunky, and Rogue Legacy.

>List of Some Rogue-lites (W.I.P)
http://pastebin.com/rwnYefeG

>Steam Rogue-lites
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Rogue-lite/#p=0&tab=NewReleases

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rogue-lite

>EtG character ideas
http://pastebin.com/Up96YEYk

>/ntg/ Pastebins
Character Ideas http://pastebin.com/JnGYReQj
Crown Ideas http://pastebin.com/TjhD5NAk
Soundmods http://pastebin.com/bAtMbDCV
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what the fuck does this camera gun do
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>>168849129
Deal damage to EVERYTHING in the room. It's amazing.
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>>168849129
takes a screenshot of your current game and puts it in a folder in EtG's game files
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>>168849129
hits everything in the room at once once charged for low damage
>>168849253
that'd be actually funny if they did that
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>>168849129
For whatever reason it doesn't do anything if there aren't any enemies in range.

I kinda wish it was Aya's camera from Shoot the Bullet, but that might be too strong. I guess that's basically what blanks are, though?
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>>168849129
It allows you to carry a free gun to your nearest muncher.
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>>168848671
Aww you shouldn't have
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>>168849786
exactly what I did and got this
I kek'd but is is really useful? doesn't seem to have any range
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>>168850362
THE BULLET IS ENORMOUS

THERE IS NO ESCAPE
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>>168850039
I did because like I said last thread, OC goes underappreciated around here.
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>>168850362
THE EXPLOSION WILL BE OF EXTRAORDINARY PROPORTIONS
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>>168850362
The Quadlaser does great damage.
So if a boss has a huge hitbox or doesn't move much, you're golden.
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>>168848671
>>168850039
>>168850654
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>>168850654
I just made a shitty edit
But thanks anyways
>>168851491
Man, i feel bad for this game
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>>168851663
Daily RoR threads still exist on /v/, and there's still RoR OCs somewhere on other anons' folders.
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>>168851840
But have they updated it?
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>>168851993
Same QUALITY HOPPO CODING as ever. So no.
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any /lite/ approved gungeon players on YouTube?
now I'm hooked and need something to watch while I eat din din
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>>168854020
Northernlion
:^)
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>>168854343
But wait, don't we totally need more footage of the worst Isaac expansion daily? Don't forget considering cancelling the episodes for the best mod!
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>>168854020
theres this guy, he has few videos but he does stuff like beating the whole game with just the pilot's stater gun while cursed and other things that only madmen attempt.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqPahwSJSVFKBBr6bR_SBBA
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>throws glass weapon for the hell of it
>weapon breaks into pieces

Oh

OK then

If they want to add a little realism then they should also make the Boots of Levitation keep Monk from stepping on non-piles of money on the ground
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What's the point of the oubliette and the temple?
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>>168857674
unlocks, extra chests and money, extra shops/chances for NPCs etc. Also temple has brother albern.
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>>168857352
>using glass weapons
you're a braver necrodancer than I am
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>>168858136
not him but,once you play as aria using glass weapons doesn't seem like that big of a problem anymore.
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What are some nuclear throne challenges I could do so far the list of things I've done so far (and looped) is as follows

>steroids,yv,crystal,frog stater weapon only
>chicken throws only
>hard mode
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>>168858939
Crystal, use only reflect to kill enemies who shoot stuff.
Exceptions include Crystal Caves as a whole, worms, and the like.
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>>168858268
It isn't, but when I want to not play as Aria I want to have fun mashing keys and destroying stuff without having to be so anal about my every single move

That's why glass weapons don't really suit my relaxing non-Aria, turn your brain off playstyle
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>on the 2nd floor just with the pistol and the meme golden gun

help
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I don't think I can do challenge mode bros
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>dying to vulcan raven
fucking end me
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>>168861542
I think you misspelt Gatling Gull
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>>168861474
most of us can't, unless you're willing to keep going till you're a master enter the gungeon player.
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>>168862327
It'd be nice if it didn't cost fuckin money to do

At least with blessing something nice can maybe happen but I'm basically paying to get tortured
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>>168862195
i meant what I said
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>>168862458
yeah I wish they didn't do that, I think they just realized that after a while hegemony credits are useless and they wannted people to get use of them but it's still dumb. thought if you get good lucky enough to beat the hollow everytime then you'll make the credits back.
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>>168862592
okay
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I'm bored, so any mock-up suggestions for Gungeon/Nt alt-sprites?
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>>168867584
Key version of The Bullet?
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>Think I'm hot shit at ETG because I can get past Dragun easily pretty much every time and do Lich any time my guns aren't hot garbage
>Challenge mode shows me just how much a scrubadub I really am

Help me.

I did complete it once with The Bullet and really good item luck, so I have chaos bullets, but it isn't enough for me.

Why do I keep playing this torture?

The problem isn't the terrible RNG challenge clusterfucks. The problem is that I can see how I could win DESPITE the terrible RNG but I can't quite execute it.

I thought I had already passed "git gud" but it clearly isn't the case. I'm not even whining about the RNG of challenge mode, I am just getting slowly ground down by careless errors and stupid mistakes adding up.

Do I just keep throwing my ass into the grinder hoping I magically skill up or is there some trick to doing challenge runs consistently? FUCK.

And I haven't even TRIED double challenge mode.

This game is going to fucking kill me.
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>>168868137
One with the goofy face.
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>>168869595
One without.
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>>168869745
>goofy face still there on the tiny version
YOU FUCKED UP
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>>168869923
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>>168861542
Use claymores
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>>168869386
true hell, you can wait till the devs make it easier by adding in positives with the negatives
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Anyone here play Exanima?
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45 hours, just finished boss rush
goddamn those elevators were a bitch
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>>168848671
why the fuck cant i enter the void lmao
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>>168873820
yeah, they're worth it though, all but the first give good stuff
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>>168848671
It always bugged me how the Cursed Hyper Crystal didn't teleport, so I fixed that
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what's the best rarity of chests to be opening rather than destroying to find junkan? i wanna go on a run with my boy
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>>168885282

Junkan is dropped from C tier chests. He can also still show up from picking up junk, but only at a 5% chance.
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Finally got my first lich kill after about 150 hours, am I bad?
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>>168881105
What is this?
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>>168851840
>/v/
gross

>>168893528
the mod this guy's making hopefully he removes rogue with the final version
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>>168881105
That's actually a really cool teleport animation.
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Polyphemus first item in today's daily. Its a judas run too. Im guessing they took the complaints about no dmg and decided to go all out.
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>>168896609
Also small rock on the tinted rock before the boss, save a bomb for it.
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>>168895208
>the mod this guy's making
Ah that mod, nice to see he's still alive.
Does he have a blog or something where I can follow his progress? I guess not
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KKILLLBUURRNNN
antibirth update when
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>>168851840
You know, if one of you had started modding an older version back when we found out the fucker wasn't going to update anymore the mod would be waaaaay ahead of the current version by now
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bamp.
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How do you disable the boss cutscenes in Gungeon?
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>>168902662
I know you can skip them, but I don't know if you can disable them.
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>Play monk
>Muscle memory myself into gold piles constantly
>Get frustrated and switch to cadence for a few runs
>Have to actively force myself to pick up gold
>End up missing beats and getting hit because of it
I hate this game
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care to discuss?
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>>168907117
I don't even know what this is
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bampin'
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>>168907117
more of a /rlg/ in my honest opinion, hard as fuck to me.
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>Isaac's daily is Judas
>Pick up Polyphemus, Steven + Small Rock on the first damn floor and you still have Book of Belial
Cannon run it is, then
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>>168907117
I used to love that game.
What happened to it?
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got gud
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>>168911961
it got some DLC/mods but kindda died after vanilla desu.. i'm starting this run and wondering if i should end it or grind a little more
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>>168904560
there are steam mods that let you change gold into spikes or something when playing as monk to help with that.
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>>168911026
When you make it on depths 1 or two, dont remember which exactly, there's a room on the floor, rightmost and lowermost, there's a golden chest in it that spawns cricket's head if you open it.
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>>168904560
Yeah
The devs didn't really thught a lot about some decisions
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Antibirth update in 5 minutes.
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>>168916391
5 HOURS
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why does it seem nuclear throne runs at 30 fps
looks sluggish as shit
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Shotguns!
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>"Cursed!" challenge
>the one where you start with Yum Heart, Child's Heart, 6 HP, but moving between rooms always damages you
>first item is Bloody Lust
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>1,000,000% AB+
>decide to start with Anti
>one red heart, 4 soul
>deal with 2 hearts
>literally no hp at all
I forgot how weird Rebirth was
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>>168920324
Isn't that something from vanilla Isaac they brought over in Anti though?
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>>168919110
because jw and rami islami are incredibly incompetent

>>168919776
is dat a f*kin jojo reference?????????
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>>168893528
>>168895208
It's actually a mod for NTT's modding update, which is coming soon! I put banditmod on hold for a while because of some shitty life situations, but the modding api for NTT is easy (and you can load code on-the-fly, which makes it good for testing)
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anyone here playing Tales of Maj'eyal? I just started playing, any tips you could give me? I'm totally new to the genre.
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>>168913675
would make more sense if picking up gold just harmed the player for one full heart of damage and closed the shops
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>>168922196
ToME is a roguelike, and belongs in the roguelike thread. This one is for roguelites, which more often than not are procedurally-generated arcade-esque games.
>>168904259
>>>/vg/rlg

This is the thread that you desire!
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>>168922869

Oh, sorry about that. Thanks.
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anyone got a screenshot of curse of the maze making a gap appear in front of the door and making it impossible to go through?
i need one ASAP
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>>168927591
I'M A REAL SUPER SAND
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>>168913376
I was wondering if something like that existed.
I should really buy the game
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>>168896609
Well I know which game in playing tonight
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>>168921397
>shitty life situations

Is it serious stuff? So long as you're okay modding anon.
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Well, I finally got the opportunity to buy TBOI Rebirth. I don't have any experience with any game of this kind so, needless to say, I got my ass kicked pretty quickly.

I managed to win one run, though (I don't remember exactly what I got except a few items: Number One, Pisces and The Bible).

Are there some newbie tips to take into consideration?
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>>168933612
Yes, chew slower.
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>>168933612
First, keep playing, familiarize yourself with the game learn how things work, what things do. I recommend having a wiki open and learning what the items/trinkets/cards/pills etc you pick up do. Explore and find things out for yourself.

Just take things easy, slowly, each run try to beat more and more of the game.

There's 12 characters to be unlocked (I dont know exact number) and each character has about 10 things that you can unlock with said character. You're gonna need a shitload of runs to experience the game fully, so you gotta enjoy yourself with it. Once you start getting good, you should consider the dlcs, afterbirth and afterbirth +
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>>168933612
Using the Bible against Mom or mom's heart is an auto win.

Starting on basement 2, there's a chance you can open up a devil deal door, much bigger chance if you take no red heart damage the whole floor. Can get some rare powerful items, at the cost of health. Or not take any and get a chance to angel room instead of a devil room.

If you see any rocks with a tint or cross on them, bomb them, they normally have soul hearts or other goodies.

Every floor, one secrete and one super secret room spawns, sometimes with good junk in them. If you have an excess of bombs, its good to use them on the edges of rooms next to L shapes on the map to look for secret room, and near a gap that wouldn't touch any other doors( generally attached next to the room leading into the boss fight in early floors, but less likely on later floors.

Beat Mom in 20 minuets or less and get a chance to get even more items before moving onto the womb. Beat the womb in 30 minuets or less for a chance for even more items
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>>168934774
I say let him play the game some more and get used to all the floors and bosses and shit before you worry him about hush and boss rush.
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>>168934774
>>168935395
>afterbirth is now considered the default game
this is really sad
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>>168934753
>Just take things easy, slowly, each run try to beat more and more of the game.
That was probably my first mistake. I jumped right at it thinking that I could accomplish something. I'll definitely slow down so as to not get frustrated.

>There's 12 characters to be unlocked (I dont know exact number) and each character has about 10 things that you can unlock with said character. You're gonna need a shitload of runs to experience the game fully, so you gotta enjoy yourself with it. Once you start getting good, you should consider the dlcs, afterbirth and afterbirth +
Good, because that was what I was looking for. A game that I can replay a shit load of times. And yeah, I figured getting the DLCs would have been too much to start. Thank you.

>>168934774
>Using the Bible against Mom or mom's heart is an auto win.
I actually knew that from watching a YouTuber's gameplay but I was so immerse on not dying that I forgot.

Anyway, thanks for the advices.
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>>168850362
Do not question the quad laser. Just stand very still
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i really wish that gungeon had a boss practice mode
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>>168936605

if you complete all of the elevator shortcuts you unlock boss rush, which is basically that. If you find yourself not wanting to fight through that and wanting to practice specific bosses, you can just use the elevator shortcuts to practice the floor + bosses that show up on it.
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>>168886369
Wait, you can actually find Ser Junken as an item? Isn't it always based on the junk item?

Also, I'm pretty sure you can get junk from A and S tier chests, so if your want to level it up to the max you might need to destroy those, too.
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>when you don't get a damage up item
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Just killed some purple mini-boss in robes

Who was that?
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>>168938480

after you beat a boss with Junkan leveled up to at least 3 (armor, shield, sword) he unlocks as an obtainable item that drops as a C tier passive. Initially, it's solely based on the junk item, and you have a 20% chance of obtaining him for picking up any given piece of junk, after he's unlocked, it's 5%.

>I'm pretty sure you can get junk from A and S tier chests

you can, but generally unless your run is already really strong, it's often times more useful to just open the chest. That being said, if you're run is strong enough that you're willing to break A and S tier chests, you probably don't need a max level Ser Junkan and are more just doing it for novelty / to be the most OP.
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>>168939838
DRY BABY
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>>168940140
The shadow magician. Kill him 10 times for cursed bullets, which are amazing. He also drops some nice stuff on death, and is easy on top of all this.
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>>168940469
DRRRY BABBBY
I actually really want to see if that seed is beatable
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>I actually have to bring the 110 cost shell casing to the blacksmith

oh god
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>>168942490
Yep.
And the Lead on floor 4 in the chamber with no visible floor.
And the powder from the Mines in the Cart room.
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>>168943321
I guess I'll just dedicate a run to each part so I don't get annoyed trying to do all of them.

That invisible floor room took me like 8 minutes of shooting with my pistol.
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>>168943591
That's precisely how you do it if you don't have a gun that sprays liquid or flight.
There's also a 4th part hidden in plain sight.
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>>168943707
Found that part after victory spraying the boss room.
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>>168943591
>>168943707
>tfw got wax wings at the start of a run and managed to deliver all 4 parts at the same time
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>>168943984
>Victory spray
I've never heard of anyone doing that.
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>>168944094
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>>168944009
Do I have to buy wax wings or unlock it?
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>>168944715
I think they're unlocked when you free Cursula, but I could be wrong.
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>>168944589
I meant in Gungeon.
>>168944715
They're unlocked by default and are a Green Chest drop.
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Is Enter the Gungeon worth its money? I've played some Isaac and watched some gameplays of EtG, still not sure.
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>>168945351
It's a bit of a mixed bag.
I still hate it after 32 hours, but have improved to the point where runs are almost fun sometimes.
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>>168908531
>>168910615
>>168910765
it's Pixel Dungeon vanilla, the version is 1.7.2a. This are easier mods since it's release http://pixeldungeon.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:26733.
the rng is really important in the first 5 levels, those dew drops can be hard to find
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>>168945464
>runs are almost fun sometimes
glowing praise right there

>>168945351
pirate it, if you enjoy it pay for it.
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>>168945351
I've found that broken runs are more rare than Isaac, so you'll be relying on your own skills a good majority of the time.

I'm pretty shit at bullet hell games but I've been doing okay so far.

>>168945935
This. Wait for a sale if you're unsure and play it now.
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>>168945464
I heard the mixed feelings a lot, but no real explainations. What are some of the pros/cons? What do you love/hate of it?
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>>168945351
I think it is, but the difficulty is harsh and a couple of mechanics are designed to nerf you in order to force you to learn dodging over relying on overpowered guns for the most part.

After 107 hours all I have left to do are the challenge mode, the final few hunt sidequests and the blessed runs. For the most part I've had a lot of fun with the game.
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>>168946117
>Love
The unlocks system keeps me coming back like a drug addict.
When the game decides to give you a win, you fukken know it from the get-go. Hell, I just started a Pilot run, first floor, 3 Key drops and Red Chest on the floor game me Spice and lockpick worked.

Some of the weapons are fun and synergies exist way more than Isaac if you have a keen mind.

Cons:
The game is far too unforgiving for many more "casual" players. Finishing a room without taking damage increases your chances of getting an item/chest drop after clearing a room, referred to as Coolness. It resets whenever you get an item/chest drop tho.
There are ways to permanently up it, but VERY few.
The loot drops are also overall terrible.
>Clear a bunch of first floor rooms easily after a couple runs
>Game keeps giving you Ammo, which refills your guns, but 2 of the 4 main characters don't even start with extra Guns
>Just gotta leave it there most of the time cause you got no guns to fill
>Can't come back for it because the Resourceful Rat steals all Ammo drops if you leave them behind
>The game's Chest system also has some serious problems
>There are a huge number of Active items, comparable in quantity to the number of Passive items
>Chest Loot drops are split into 3 categories, the 2 predetermined chests on a floor are split into Guns and Active/Passive items at random, it's always one of each,
>Chest drops after clearing a room can contain anything in their respective pools (Chests are tiered as well and this Tier is rolled randomly) (And post-room Chest drops are insanely rare, and higher tier ones spawn locked, because fuck you)
>The Passive/Active Chest is more or less a 50/50 split for payouts
>You can only carry one Active without some Passive bonuses (Pilot can carry one more by default, but starts with one), but you can carry unlimited Passive
>Actives do a thing once in a while, whereas Passives do something constantly, the latter is outright better most of the time
Etc.
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>>168947156
And to add comedy to comedy,
>Find 2nd Chest on the floor, the Gun Chest since the other one gave me an Active
>Lockpick doesn't work
>Break it
>Spice #2 pops out
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>Devolver
>instead of the enemy dying, they turn into a lesser form

Thanks?
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>>168947427
If you wanna finish the Bestiary, you'll need it.
Also, it works on all enemies (excluding bosses), so it's pretty fucking good.
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>>168947659
Whoops.
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>>168947370
Scratch that, 3 Spice on Floor 1, thanks to Icosohedrex rolling Enfeebled Gift.
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>>168942037
There's some bullshit where you find a secret room with stat up pills or something. I remember some guy explaining how to beat it.
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>>168948064
Is eating more than 2 cubes of spice all bad news? I know that the third one you use reduces max health, but does it also kill your other stat boosts? I tend to use two spices then ignore any more that show up. And boy does the game want to give you spice after the second usage, even in post room drops.
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>>168948880
3+ give you -1 full HP container.
#3 slows down enemy bullets by 5%, ups your damage by 20%, and Curse by 1.
#4+ give 15% damage, 10% increased shot spread, and 1 Curse.
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>>168946117
Good:
>short runs
>fun and varied guns
>bullet hell bosses are interesting
>nice enemy design
>shit tons of content
>very challenging
>tons of movie and game references plus puns. They always bring a stupid smile to my face.

Bad:
>new players are normally torn to shreds and the game gives no fucks or pity for it
>can be frustrating when you're learning
>it takes forever to start unlocking stuff due unlocks mostly being about buying the unlocks from shops that require boss victory money AND for you to have rescued that shopkeeper from the gungeon in the first place
>the music isn't that good and grates very quickly
>some bosses are more bullshit than others
>The bosses have a damage cap and there's a hidden 'magnificence' stat that means if you get an S tier gun or item you're unlikely to get another that run. In short, you're nerfed.
>ammo drops are RNG. Yep, a game about guns has ammo drops being rare and random.
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I'm now up to 6 Spice consumed. Help.
>>168949476
>short runs
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>>168949476
>short runs
the fuck are you playing?
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>>168949476
>Short runs
nani?
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>>168949476
>Encourage players to use weapons that they get
>Make ammo one of the rarest consumables
This has to be one of the most backward decisions they could make, it baffles me that they haven't done anything about it too
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>>168950180
most of the guns are shit anyways in my opinion
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>>168949687
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>TFW you opt to leave your Lock-pick behind in the name of Unlocks
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>>168951837
10 bucks says you're gonna drop that tv in a chasm before making it to the forge.
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>>168950558
Most of them are better than the stocks
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why is the gungeon so goddamn stingy about drops
is it because i keep getting shot
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>>168949687
Isn't 3 the max usefulness for them?
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>>168952094
Probably.
Also up to 8 Spice. I have 1 Heart Container.
>>168952161
Yes. Temp coolness only improves for rooms cleared no hit.
Ammo drops increase as well with Curse.
>TFW Silver Bullets + Spice (7.5 Curse atm)
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>>168952290
>TFW 1-shot by a cube
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send help
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STOP EATING SO MUCH SPICE
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How on earth are you supposed to loop in NT? I've gotten good/broken enough to be able to kill the throne ~6 times but every time I start killing the reactors I'm barely able to kill one before it dashes up to me and I don't have enough time to kill the other.

Even with steroids using a nuke launcher+sawn off
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Man that was an odysey
>>168949476
This, the game is really great and fun at some things but when it comes to the rest it feels as if the developers thought their game was too fun so they had to add handicaps to everything
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>>168953412
MAKE ME YOU FUCK
>>168953520
hm if you suck shit you can bait the beam by standing on the carpet (there's a sound que) and attack the gens while the throne is doing that animation. That's what I do when I'm doing revolver only runs
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>>168953374
>blatantly rigged RNG
wew lad

>>168953520
throne moves faster when you're far away
also anything with a low rate of fire on roids is bad desu senpai
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>>168953793
>hm if you suck shit you can bait the beam by standing on the carpet (there's a sound que) and attack the gens while the throne is doing that animation.
i thought it was mostly random but i guess it makes sense it's like that
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>Egg announces that he's stopping Antibirth
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLINNNGG DOOWWWWNNN
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>>168953902
I don't remember what I had before but I switched to those for massive dps to try and kill the reactors
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>http://imgur.com/a/rUeIV
discuss???
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>>168933597
Missed a payment on one of my bills that put me out about $500. Had enough that I wasn't completely bumfucked, but I've been pulling daily doubles at work for the past few weeks to make up for it. Also missed a few deadlines for some other projects I've been working on as a result, and the icing on the shitcake is that it's been rough on my personal life too. That's not shit that needs to be elaborated upon, though.
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Tfw you get alien engine
>>168953968
C A R E E R S U I C I D E
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The guy who did the ost for NT has made some pretty decent music to relax to
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>>168954397
>Brass Drops
Shame Brass rewards from anything that isn't a big ass enemy is total garbage.
>Room Clear
Far too low base, Coolness is far too rare a bonus stat.
>Guaranteed Gun from Boss if you haven't gotten a Gun yet
Also retarded. I'd prefer a guaranteed Passive if no Passive yet.
>Key bullshit
Needs to stop.
Ammo drops being a separate chance is good, but it's far too low base and being separate with the actual Drop system being so ass, makes it feel like getting early Ammo drops saps you of potential Key drops you could've gotten.
And Ammo Drops before even getting a Gun is fucking misery.

All in all, game has some serious problems.
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Anyone played this at all? I saw a gameplay video pop up in my recommended, looked pretty neat, but unsure if I should drop 15 dollars for it.
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>>168957061
why's everything so wavy
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>>168957209

I think thats just the way the screencap is, it doesnt look like that in game.
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>>168953968
tfw I initially misinterpreted this as Edmund putting a CND on Antibirth because I don't pay any mind to NL and forget that people call him egg
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What items should be removed from Isaac?
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>>168958608
every HP up, Cursed Eye, any of the items that turn your tears into a crosshair
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>>168957061
hell yeah that games a trip, difficult as fuck though.
gameplay is pretty unique, i would recommend it.
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>>168958748
>Cursed Eye
>bad
>Not gitting gud
>Not manipulating the teleport to escape shit rooms
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>>168958608
Any item that's a copy of another item, including versions that are worse in every situation (like the Common Cold). Also, those familiars that follow your movements on a delay, because they're shit 100% of the time.
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>>168959180
I can't think of a single scenario where I would want to get hit to go back to a previous room
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>>168958608
None. Alter the item pools, vary the different item rooms, put in more special rooms and more special room spawns.
>New Special Rooms make use of the Planks that need 2 Bombs to open, single keys, just open by default, etc.
>Some act like Item Rooms with tailored pools based on the Special Room, which can range from a bathroom having poo/pee items, to a Kitchen having Mom items, Challenge rooms that always award an Item, bring up the Angel Battle rooms from the Eternal update
>And so on and so forth, give the player some options and carefully tailor item drops so they can partake of some, but not all unless really lucky
>Instead of "Hold R until Item Room, if shit, hold R until Item Room, if decent, start run"
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>>168959180
>>Cursed Eye
>>bad
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>>168959247
>Negative Baby
>Shit
>When just shuffling forward and back can permanently double your shots
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>>168959547
>Ever needing to do that
>Makes Jacob's Ladder hurt you
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>>168959660
If you got Jacob's Ladder, it's not a run where you'd ever need to pick up Negative Baby.
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>>168959162

Yeah, it was the unique style of gameplay that drew me to it.

How difficult would you say it is?
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Now that I've finally beaten Greedier Mode with all of the characters, what should I be aiming for?

For Marathon, do I have to win the run or just play it?
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How do I git gud at nuclear throne? I've won a few times but can't even loop.
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>>168960325
Marathon requires 5 back-to-back wins in Dailies.
Dedication requires 31 back-to-back finishes, which is win or die, no exiting out.
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>>168960428
Apparently you just have to keep on baiting the beam attack because that takes a while to fire so you can actually kill the reactors.

Though I've died twice in a row now because of being spawned in giant open areas with 7+ snipers
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>>168960501

Damn it all. Well, today's Daily seems promising enough for now. Not sure whether to keep Book of Belial or take Shoop Da Whoop.
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>>168953968
Ran out of content already? Oh fucking wow.
Maybe this motivates the FUCKING PATCH TO COME OUT ALREADY GOD DAMN
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>>168960593
Oh, that's a good idea, gonna try.
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>>168958748
Shitty familiars that JUST follow you like shade and that one fly. Less red chests in the deal with the devil too.
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>>168960840
Isn't the new patch just a bunch of bug fixes and other QoL changes?
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>>168961023
Fuck that red chest bullshit. I earned a deal, Steak man. Where the hell is it?
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>>168961091
Better than Angel "Deals."
>Earn an Angel deal through ignoring something potentially valuable (or just getting red chests, lol)
>Then through random chance on top of it
>3 pennies
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>>168961091
Try the next floor, asshole. Now have fun with your troll bombs and health down pills.
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>>168961070
Looks like there are plans to add more content too, like the alt floor versions of the horsemen that people have posted a few times.
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>>168961157
>>168961210
If I went through the trouble of not getting hit, you're not fucking me over like this, Edmund.
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>>168960840
It's not that, the fucker decided to do Eden runs just like Afterbirth+ and ignores the new shit.

>>168961157
Those at least might have spirit hearts. Red chests are usually always bad spiders, fuck you bombs, or a teleport into the same fucking room.
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>>168961223
Yeah that's definitely coming, but I remember reading the patch notes and noticing that nothing new was added. Pretty sure content is still gonna be pushed back a few more months, if not longer.
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Is there anything that just shows which piece of music from nt plays when.

I recognize most of them but the wiki is actual garbage and searching for the names usually doesn't work.
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What's the average time of getting Platinum God? I want to know if I'm dunking on people yet
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>>168961531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_CwTP0XsP4&list=PL654Y0RWmPA0z75QfWbHyQLSFuYXkVhcy
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>>168961645
well that works, I guess
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>>168959273

If you played the Backasswards challenge, you could beat it that way.
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>Still no antibirth update

Dead mod
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>>168961927
KILLLBURRRN
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>>168961927
Rugburn has also been silent about it.
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>Full Metal Jacket + Cigarettes
>You blank your own cigarettes
What a weird interaction.
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>>168961927
>Still no NT update
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For Dailies, how do you know which icon is which? I don't know if I go to Mom's Heart or The Dark Room.
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>>168962149
Same icons as the post-it notes on the characler select screen, with addition of a M for mom.
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>>168962149
>Mom's Heart or The Dark Room
You mean Chest or Dark Room?
And White with Black inner box = Chest, Black with White inner box (cause it's negative) = Dark Room.
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>>168962119
>even if Update 99 came out, there's a chance it would be just bug fixes
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>Pyromaniac + Kamikaze
This is it. The most powerful combination anyone could ever get.
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>>168962292
>>168962293

I have a square with Red in the middle.
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>die on beholster when i have all the materials for third floor shortcut
holy shit fuck this boss i has a rusty sidearm, a stinger and nothing else
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>>168962582

Game helped me to figure it out. Had to go to The Dark Room and it was easy as fuck with Polyphemus/Succubus/Shoop Da Whoop
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>>168960182
It starts off easy but the more you unlock the harder shit becomes. later stages can be absolutely unforgiving if you don't know what you're doing too.
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god little hunter is the worst thing in this entire game
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>>168963528

Good to know. Any tips I should know for later on? I bought it and started playing now, I'm having fun.
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>>168963923
keep in mind how long you've been in a level
try to fight elite enemies
focus on dodging
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>>168964137

Cool, thanks for answering my questions Anon.
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Why does Gungeon have SO FUCKING MANY unlocks that all cost Hegemony Credits?
Why don't Challenge/Blessed runs let you earn Credits when they cost Credits?
But mostly, WHY DOES IT TAKE SO MANY HEGEMONY CREDITS TO UNLOCK EVERYTHING? THERE ARE TOO MANY VENDORS AND TAILOR TAKES TOO MANY TOO.
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>>168962794
>Rusty sidearm
You had enough to do it without taking damage.
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>>168964726
>we used to fight bosses with just our pistols, walking 15 miles both ways

okay Grandpa
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>>168964726
yeah but i'm kaiji, not akagi
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Gungeon Fact of the day:
>Killing a Gunjurer (those mage dudes) right as they cast their spell will cause it to fire twice, once on the death frame, and once on the frame after
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>>168964457
i've got nothing better to do at 1 in the morning
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Fuck lil hunter
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>>168966728
It doesn't make sense for the 3rd boss to be harder than everything else in the game.
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>>168848671
Hold on to your butts. yal is almost ready to drop the modding update (on the anniversary of u98 being an entire year old). As long as we find no bugs, it's ready to ship.
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>>168968068
This is the one with the Soda Bandit, Van, and all those chars we've been seeing, yes?
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>>168968179
Yes. I am also your resident banditmodder
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>>168968241
Double neat.
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>>168968241
Is it possible to make it so that you can keep multiple golden weapons.

Or at least track them, like an isaac note.
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>>168969059
Not in NT or NTT, but you can just use the /cwep chat command to give you whatever weapon you want. Making a Gun Locker mod for golden weapons would be easy, though.
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Alright so the "stand in the middle and shoot off into the distance" strat works for throne, and then I killed all the IDPD, but when Throne 2 spawned the game just flat out crashed on intro.

This is apparently a common bug and goes away if you turn off boss intros.

Where's the save editor so I can get what I deserve?
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>>168971238
Install NTT instead
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>>168971298
Doesn't that auto-unlock everything.

I'm probably not gonna 100% every character but I wanted to at least do the skins and like at least a crown.
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>>168971512
Should only do it when you join a coop game. You can punch in /loadgame and /savegame respectively to get your vanilla save.
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I have done 50 runs and haven't once been to the Abbey of the True Gun.

I can never keep the armor alive for an entire floor. I choke every single time.
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>>168947816
>spongebob meme
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>Greed's gullet can only appear in secret rooms

It doesn't seem to be able to appear anywhere else even with Chaos. It's the only item left that I need to get for 1000000%.

Is just looking for secret rooms and praying that all the planets align the best way to get it?
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>can't get the 110 cost bullet component to the 5th floor because I use money as a crutch

It hurts
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>>168973989
Can you find a seed with a secret room near the spawn and farm it?
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>>168974207

I thought you can't get achievements or collection marks if you use seeds? Not to mention wouldn't it be the same thing in the secret room every time in that case?
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>>168919776
first item is holy mantle
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>>168974207
You can't, not only will the item be the same every time, it wouldn't count towards anything anyways.
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Is there a way to change gungeon's soundtrack?
I'm running out of podcasts to listen to while i play it
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>>168989849
Is it that hard to mute it then put on your own music?
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>>168991076
>Not listening to music while in your bed with your eyes closed
Seriously tho, i feel like if i do that i'm going to get sick of my own music eventually
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>get Ser Junkan on my first chest
>no Junk for two full floors

Just fuck my shit up
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I have such a weird relationship with Nuclear Throne. I love it but it still feels like I'm absolute garbage at it. It probably has something to do with unlike Isaac there's no definitive end and you just go until you die. At what point did you feel you were competent? And anything I should do to improve? I've been playing with Crown of Blood and I think that has helped a lot.

>>168973989
Start an Isaac run, find the secret room, hope for an item and roll it if it isn't Greed's Gullet.
Save any batteries that drop or buy one in the shop if you're lucky.
You can either reset after the first floor becomes fruitless or play the entire run checking secret rooms. You can also break the game for infinite rerolls if you have the know how. It would be better but you really need the stars to align for that.
Do whichever method doesn't drive you insane and remember that everyone remembers the last item they had to pick up. I remember in Rebirth playing for three days straight trying to make bandage girl, only to break the game and use Monster Manuel.

>>168991230
Isn't the whole point of finding your own music to find something to listen to that doesn't make you sick of it eventually? I think you just need a wider selection of music.
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Can you do seeded runs in NT? That last weekly one was cool
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>>168997451
There's programs out there that make it possible, yeah. All it takes is plopping a textfile with the seed you desire in your NT directory, but I'm frankly lazy and would rather use the former route.
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>Boot up Gungeon for the first time in ages
>Try to clear Pilot's run
>Get a great loadout with scattershot, remote control bullets, BSG and the holster letting me shit out BSG shots forever
>Forget to grab the bullet from the blacksmith at the end
>Thanks for playing Enter The Gungeon!
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>>168974128
what about stealing it?
you'd need to pull something to steal with on the first couple of floors though, that's not super common
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>>168989849
i just play random OSTs/2hu compilations on youtube
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is burst laser 1 simply inferior to dual lasers?
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>>169003664
>2hu
gross

>>169007478
yes, but dual lasers cannot be found (only certain ships start with them to balance them out)
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is the binding of issac rebirth item pool different on ios? i get much better runs there.
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Anyone play our darker purpose? I literally can't find people who also play it and talk about the game.
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>Gungeon
>Ruby Bracelet
USELESS GARBAGE.
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>>169013452
>playing boss rush
>clearing through the first floor bosses
>pick up ruby bracelet
>whatever.jpg
>middle of the third floor bosses
>I'm out of ammo on all my guns
>accidentally throw my empty gun at the boss
>it explodes and chunks his hp down
>slowly realize the position I'm now forced into
>cycle through all my empty guns throwing them into Cannon Barlog's face
>tactically dodge and pick them back up off the ground to throw them at him again
>mfw perfected that fight
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>Tried to screenshot end of a run
>F12'd by mistake, took a look at the Steam file
>Fucking .jpg
>Artifacted to Delirium's asshole and back
>Doesn't include achievement because not actual screencap
Fucking Valve.
Anyway, Silver Dollar done means I've finished Cain.
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>>168964664
This is so true, sadly. Most of the stuff is way too expensive and the average income of credits is way too low. It takes around 50-60 hours to buy everything everywhere, probably way, way more than the average time most people even play the game, let alone get credits on decent runs.

Like most people said, the game is really poorly planned on many aspects.
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>>169016629
It's disappointing, really.
>Expected a fast-paced blood-pumping Schmup Rogue-lite hybrid that's all about chaotic bullshit and pounding through rooms trying not to die
>Is one of the slowest Action-based games I've ever played
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>>169009302
Why is is gross?
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>>169018793
>>Expected a fast-paced blood-pumping Schmup Rogue-lite hybrid that's all about chaotic bullshit and pounding through rooms trying not to die
But that's what you get, it just happens in floors four to six.
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>>169019547
You don't suddenly have 3X the movement speed on floor 4+.
Enemies don't suddenly have 50% less HP on floors 4+.
You don't suddenly do substantially more damage on floors 4+.
It's as slow and miserable as the rest of the game.
Only difference is some enemies are genuine threats now instead of just the occasional big guy.
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>>169019989
>You don't suddenly have 3X the movement speed on floor 4+.
>Got Bionic Leg, 3 Spices and Haste dice shrine by floor 3

F A S T
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>>169019989
>>169018793
I miss NT too anon
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>>169020547
Aren't they releasing some big mod today
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>>168972865

I've done over 300 runs and I can count the times I've been to the abbey in one hand.
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>>169020795
Which one?
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>>169022829
I dunno, I saw some guy posting yesterday that they've been making a content mod for a while and were releasing it today because it's the anniversary of the last game update
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>>169021294
Abbey doesn't seem worth it to me, Old King is too much of an asshole. Way too much health.
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>find the com4nd0 gun on the first floor

aww yeah, it's going to be and master round-on-every-boss episode

>procede to get a master round on floors 2 to 4
>have good itens and guns in general
>get to dragun with 6 full hearts

and then the game proceeds to glitch, the entire screen goes black and I can't see shit. fuck you
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>>169024152
lmao just git gud faget
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>>169022964
It's a version of Nuclear Throne Together that supports mods. It was given to select people who have been working on mods for it. Hell, there are posts in this very thread from people working on mods.

They said they might release it to the public today as it has been exactly a year since the last official Nuclear Throne update.
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Stop dyin'.
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Antibirth update in 5 years.
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Death is now?
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>>169024383
is this some sort of meta commentary on how the game's apologists will blame everything on the person not getting good? I'm can't read that many layer of irony. pls respond
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>run into rock assault ship
>i can barely hurt them because of a 3-layer shield
>they can't hurt me at all because i also have a three-layer shield
>use the stalemate to grind all 8 crew members to maxed pilot/engine/weapon/shield skills
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>>169033129
i guess you could see it that way, yeah
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>96% Achievements done
>Only 4 Ultra Greedier characters remaining, lets check the other achievos besides dedication
>Mfw i haven't gotten the Super Bandage Girl achievement

Fuck what's the easiest way to get that achievement? Playing as Lilith in the normal mode is awful as fuck.
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>>169034194
Lilith is the fastest way.
>Get a Ball of Bandages and 3 Batteries
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>>169034194
That's some cute as fuck fanart.

Are the other 3 cute?
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>>169034901
Maybe
>>169034317
Can you get Ball of bandages in Greed mode? I think i've never seen it there.
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If I'm playing single player NTT does it disable achievements? I should have gotten the one for level 10.
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NTT MODDING UPDATE IS LIVE

GET IT WHILE ITS HOT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY U98!!!!
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>>169040235
What des it do again?
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>>169040728
Adds modding support. Basically what Custom Throne used to do, but with u99 and online
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>>169040983
Any mods i should try?
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>>169041105
I'll upload a few batches when I get home. Try omegaweapons
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>Blank Card & Strength in Boss Rush
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>>169040983
>The mod uses Steam API and cannot function without it.
Ah yes, i had forgotten about my poverty
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>>169040235
Is there a quick way to get all the unlocks?
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>>169045624
Join a game of co-op. The game piggybacks on the steam API to-do online so anyone canhost
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>>169044997
It was in the mega bundle a week or so agao, it's how I got the game.
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>>169046094
I meant more like a text command to give all the unlocks.
Haven't played NTT before but I thought all the characters were unlocked by default. I started up the game and nothing was unlocked. Rather not do everything again.
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>>169047051
If you're in single player I think there's a save file on the NTT forum thing for it.

Everything's unlocked in multiplayer.
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>>169047264
Thanks man, I should have looked at the forums.
For anyone else in my situation I'll just copy/paste what I found there:
>You can import your regular NT save via "/loadgame nuclearthrone.sav" -> "/savegame nuclearthronetogether.sav".
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>>169047801
That didn't work for me so I just moved it manually to the folder, but yea, that might work too.
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>>169047051
You can also just do /cwep, /bwep, and /ccrown to get whatever starting weapon, secondary, and crown you want. I'll give you guys a full rundown later.

Type /gml race_set_active(13,1) . enjoy.
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>>169043257
heh
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Well this was pretty fun. Cursed Bullets + Remote Bullets + Angry Bullets is pretty dang strong against bosses, especially with the Shell.
Angry Bullets makes the Shell's scattershot on impact pop out more shotguns instead of bullets, which in turn pop into bullets. That coupled with the homing bullets makes it melt every room and every boos.
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>>169048224
>/gml race_set_active(13,1)
Well that was just plain silly.
Thank you.
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>>169048838
Now imagine if you had Silver Bullets too.
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>>169049285
Didn't even need them, even a cursed Gun Nut took a measly 3 shots before he died.
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>Since Update 99 beta was released on Humble, I was able to backport all non-destructive fixes and balance changes from it to NTT.

>The mod was also updated to be compatible with u99, meaning that it will continue working perfectly fine when the update releases.

Why doesn't vlambeer just push this out as an official update.
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>>169050658
Imagine the shame they'd experience. It takes them a goddamned year to get a small bugfix out while in less time someone does the bug fixes, more fixes, and adds modding support ON TOP of the online and replay functions released in a prior update.
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>shrine of phasing removes all my my equipment
oops
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>>169050875
It's not as shameful as antibirth is
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Can anyone else who has the necrodancer dlc not use mods? I'm assuming since they added new stuff it fucks with mods but even mods that only changed the stuff from the regular version aren't working.
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Alright, buttchuggers. I'm gonna give you a quick rundown on how NTT moding works.

The GMLAPI, for the most part, uses plain gml -- Game Maker's programming language. There's some things unique to the parser (ternary functions, local variable exists checks, etc), but it's plain GML for the most part.

Type /gmlapi in chat to get a full dump of the commands, and valid fields with existing objects. You can find it in your Appdata/local/nuclearthrone directory.

Starting off with a basic test:
>====================================================
#define init
trace("Hello World!");
script_bind_draw(test_draw, -100);

#define test_draw
var _x = mouse_x;
var _y = mouse_y;

if global.currenttime > 1000 global.currenttime = 0
else global.currenttime ++;

repeat(16) trace("");
trace("_x: " + string(_x));
trace("_y: " + string(_y));
trace("currenttime " + string(global.currenttime));

for(var i=1;i<=string_length("HELLOWORLD");i++){
draw_text(_x + (8 * i),_y,string_char_at("HELLOWORLD",i));
wait(2);
}
>=====================================================
Here's your "Hello World" you glorious bastards. I'll cover modloading in a minute.
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>>169052220
I saw the post on it, it looks nice.

Is there any sort of repository for mods outside of that wiki page? I know someone here was making a cursed hyper crystal
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>>169052220
Now, I've just given you this great mod file to work with... what the fuck are you intended to do with it?

Save the file as a helloworld.mod.gml and put this bitch into your Nuclear Throne directory. appdata/local/nuclearthrone is also acceptable, it doesn't really matter what you do as long as you save it as a mod.gml file.

type the following into chat once the file is there:
> /loadmod helloworld.mod.gml
> /loadmod helloworld.mod
OR
> /loadmod helloworld
All three should be valid, though the last one doesn't work when loading races and crowns for whatever reason.
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>>169052329
As of now, there's no directory. Also, I was the one making the Cursed Hyper Crystal.

http://pastebin.com/mxgjmqs2
Vanthro. Save her as vanthro.race.gml before loading her in.

http://pastebin.com/CbY2hEBJ
Cursed Hyper Crystal, as mentioned in your post. This one needs to be a .mod.gml file. You can press B to spawn it.

http://pastebin.com/tPKuMiLJ
Hostile Rogue. Triple looping gives you a nice surprise. Press B to spawn her.


I'll periodically post more mods in the future, so look out for those.
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>>169048224
>>169048942
>/gml race_set_active(13,1)
What's it do?
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>>169053697
No wait, nevermind, I'm dumb.
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More mods tomorrow, friends. Have this one in the meantime
http://pastebin.com/d3s7Ghr6
It's a Bandit character that can only use the Blaster. Weapon mutations (save for Longer Arms) have an effect on the character's gun or active ability, making it an Augmenter-type character. I recommend Eagle Eyes, Recycling Gland, and Shotgun Shoulders. It's a motherfucking magnificent combo made in heaven.
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>Crystals 1-hit kill you if you touch them
>Had strong spirit so I didn't die, but that's still retarded
>Die even though I was nowhere near the hitbox of another crystal

>Next run doing crown room and an idpd ( apparently ) somehow does 14 health in one shot even though i wasn't near it or a bomb

Little hunter is bullshit and all but now the game's just fucking with me. Those were amazing runs too. I had a fucking shovel and nuke launcher on 3-3 because of robot.
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>>169057339
Crystals are incredibly slow. The only time one would ever realistically touch one is if you go to the Cursed Caves since those things telefrag.
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>>169057607
I had shovel and long arms and was hitting things. I guess I was near one the first time but I wasn't even close to the second one when I saw it instant kills you.
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>>169035819

I've ever only seen Super Meat Cube.
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What is the chance that the new NTT update ends up better than U99?

I'd say it's pretty damn high
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>>169058149
NTT is literally U99 plus some other shit though. It ported over pretty much everything that was in the patch.
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>>169058149
NTT has all of the fixes that u99 had without the errors (Rami somehow made the Crown Vault glitch even worse even though we literally showed him the exact cause for the error and how to fix it??), as well as modding support. That's like wondering if a chocolate fudgecake is going to taste better than petrified dogshit
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>>169058338
Is it a common glitch for the game to crash on the boss intro to throne 2, because I'm still pissed about that even though I gave myself the rebel unlock etc
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>>169058421
Yes. It's been fixed in NTT.
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>>169058520
Can I turn off some boss intros but not others.

I find that bandit and dog don't really affect much but I'd think having a second to know where the fuck hunter is going would be nice, plus I think it fits the throne fight(s)
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>>169058673
Maybe by writing a mod for it, but not as a native option.

Also, Lil' Hunter spawns after approximately 10 seconds.
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>>169058810
Yea I know he spawns relatively quickly. Have to start nuking everything to try and make some space for the fight but sometimes I can't because I get spawned on top of three cars next to an open area of 5 beastmen, 2 tanks, 3 dogs, and a golden tank
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>>169058878
A rapidfire weapon should make relatively easy work of most of those chumps. If one drops, consider a triple machinegun or bouncer shotgun?

People stick their noses up to Bullets a lot, but they're honestly really good weapons.
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>>169059395
No yea if I get a real good autofire thing I'll use it, it's just that I often don't.
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Do mimics not show up if I don't have any curse?
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>>169061417
JUST after asking this the chest I checked was a mimic. Almost gave me a damn heart attack.
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>>169061417
No. Always Mimic Check with your basic weapon, even if it has a fuse and you have 0 Curse.
Mimics have a small chance to spawn that rises with Curse.
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>full clear all floors through mines
>have a grand total of two keys, including the starting one
i just want to unlock shortcuts

also 20% chance for junken my ass
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>have like 200 ammo on my balloon gun
>clear 3 rooms
>have 0 ammo

I know I'm not this bad. What happened?
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>>169062135
RNG is RNG.
>Finally get a good run, 3 fucking keys on Floor 1
>Nothing else, rest of run, not even a Key Kin
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>>169062146
You lose Ammo when you get hit while holding it.
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>do today's Daily
>so close to Guppy, but 2 cents short

Do you get extra points for killing Delirium or should I just head to the Cathedral?
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>>169062308
Damn, that explains why the gun is so good.
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>Binding of Isaac Rebirth locks use of a console behind a $11 paywall
Fucking hell. I have the money to pay for both DLC's but I really feel like it's money that could be better spent elsewhere. The new items/synergies would be cool, but not $20 cool.
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>>169064841

Just wait for a Steam Sale.
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Detonator is really fun.
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>>169064901
Do they even go on sale at all? I've never seen them be
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>>169065508

I think once or twice. We'll find out in a few weeks anyway.
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>>168941606

I've only encountered him once so far, unlocked the Bottle I think? Jesus I feel like I'll see him 9 times after another 50 hours.
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>>168941606
It's only 5 for Cursed Bullets.
I've only seen him once tho.
>>169067030
RNG is RNG friend.
Also, he himself is a hint as to what the next Expansion/DLC/whatever will bring.
>Seemingly controlled by an unseen master, this mysterious form recently began stalking the Chambers of the Gungeon.
I think next thing is gonna feature the Gungeon getting invaded by a new force.
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>>169067223

Ooh, that's exciting. I think the gun that's a cactus has a phrase in the ammonicon about a desert land that will be located soon (or something to that effect). I'd love 5 more chambers, maybe going up instead.
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>reinstall rebirth
>don't have keeper
>have to grind greed mode because the machine was fucked up at launch
I know I'm behind but shit still sucks.
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>>169067379
Or maybe:
>Gungeon gets invaded
>A new path opens up, blowing out the wall to the right of Frifle and Mauser
>Travel out into a new and foreign land, rolling deserts, deep caverns, and oddities galore, rife with a new cast to meet and greet, and so on and so forth, to halt the assault on the Gungeon
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>>169067538
Isn't Keeper Afterbirth tho?
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>>169067557
Speaking of:
>Tailor's room gets an extension and an Airship he offers to ride you out in if you help him map it out (which requires more shitty collections)
>Old NPCs stock up their wares with a variety of new shit, new NPCs mostly show up en route
>Frifle gets an entire 2nd achievement
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>>169067594
Shit, that's what I meant.
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>6% chance of the donation machine to jam
>10 cents
Gee, thanks Ed.
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send more crossbows
also more fucking keys
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>>169069379

>Have 99 cents
>Jams on the first one

eat a dick ed
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>>169072504
Everything has to be a pain in the dick with this game.
>three curse of the blind in a row
EVERYTHING
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What do I do now?
I dont have afterbirth+ btw
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Is Isaac an inherently flawed game? Is there any way to fix it?
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>>169073976
I think the only way it's inherently flawed is that I think some stuff should just be removed, but that isn't going to happen officially, and not be the best sell for people who are playing modded.
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>>169073816
Now you Do double challenge mode :^)
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>>169077129
Fuck that, I think I'll continue grinding all ancestor trinkets in DD.
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>>168912187
Congratulation.
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>>169069379
>>169072504
The worst part is that the Donation Box has mechanical use besides unlocks and money for use on other runs.
>Every cent donated has a chance to improve chance of an Angel Deal over a Devil Deal up to 1 time per floor
>Every cent donated has a chance to improve your Luck by 1 up to 1 time per floor
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>>169077129
Challenge mode and the blessing? Sounds like a nightmare.
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>>169077129
Do you even get anything for this?
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>>169080029
i should play more dd
i got to the point where you just started the second tier of difficulty and that shit was kicking my ass, and i hadn't learned to not give a shit about individual characters yet
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>>169095053
I've completed the game and still do runs because the game is fun.
But medium missions are a joke compared to champion, thats the biggest difficulty spike you'll ever face.
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>>169096142
i also straight up hadn't stepped into the cove at all
i hear the bombers are fun to handle
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>>169096581
They're easy to handle with a good team composition. Each dungeon has their own 'best' composition since mobs have resistances and takes a while to learn them.
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>fighting the mine flayer
>one of the bell thing he summons happens to be jammed
>kill the boss and get the achievement for killing a jammed boss

pls don't tell the devs about this or it will get nerfed
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So is the mod by banditanon done yet?
I'm really bored and can't afford anything.
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>>169100063
>nerfed

or patched or whatever. on the same note, what's up with the achivements for this game? half of them don't even unlock anything and even though there are hundreds of things to unlock ingame there is no achivement for unlocking things. why
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>>169100245
It's the "muh hard game" syndrome, every roguelite has it to some degree
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What's with the daily today in isaac? Is getting strange attractor worth it for some future synergies or something?
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am I missing something or did the game just make a room where I can't get back to the door
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I lost the daily. not a single fucking dmg up or tears up for the entire run. Fuck this stupid bullshit. Whoever made the daily achievements deserves to be guillotined. What horseshit. How is it possible to be this utterly incompetent at your own fucking game? What was even the point of that daily, not a single fucking interesting thing about the entire fucking run. Fucking robo baby was the most powerful thing you get in that catastrophe.
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>>169105715
Dailies are predominantly just random seeds, with only a select few that actually are hand-crafted for special events.
Random seeds also includes ones as bad as Northerlion's Trainwreck.
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>>169106579
Doesnt excuse the garbage that is today's daily and the garbage that are marathon and dedication in general.

"Hurr durr we would never do daily based achievements" fuck you stakemund suck my cock.
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>>169106698
I agree. Those pieces of shit were a mistake. Doesn't change the fact Nicalis doesn't care.
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>>169106964
I know it doesnt change the fact but Im mad and I wanna vent. I started dedication like almost 2 weeks ago and I still cant get marathon finished. Everytime I think yeah this is the one, some bullshit run like this one comes up and fucks me in the bunghole or some shit happens and my game crashes or some shit that NEVER FUCKING HAPPENS NORMALLY that makes it so I cant do the run.

Dedication would be acceptable, marathon is just anal. Just a load of anal.
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>Gungeon with settings at their lowest
>Get 5 glass orbitals
>Game shits itself on big rooms
Oh ok then
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>>169107643
You guys make scared of playing the game. I don't want to be that guy, but I've been playing for months and not once has the game crashed any time other than when I'm closing it. Every time I read these posts it makes me feel like I'm next.
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>>169100203
I'm gonna start up working on it again since NTT is public now! Several other obligations are also out of the way (I spent a while cleaning up a copy of u19's code a bit for the x10 Mutations mod, as well as getting a few working properly since the modder isn't experienced)

The stuff I've picked up along the way will speed up the amount of time I spend on ei'isum immensely (TL: Wasteland Kings, bandit mod)
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Fucking finally. And all it took was 33 hours and half a dozen graphically glitched enconters with the Dragun.
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>>169107962
Oh sweet, you're back. I was hoping to find someone on the inside.
From this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGjFyYISQ-Y
I know there are a lot more mods than the 8 or so currently up on the modding wiki. I can understand if the mod creators don't want to release them before they're in a polished state but the "cheats.mod.gml" mod in this video seems very helpful. Allowing you to change levels would be really fun to play around with.
Any chance you could hook me up with it?
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>>169105715
It was an utterly miserable run, finally beat It Lives in close to 36 minutes.
Only damage boosts where growth hormones in depths 1 boss and piece of coal, most of the run I had to do it with robo baby, lil'monstro in depths and in desperation bob's brain and curse of the tower.
The devil's deals were utterly horrible save for book of sin in the basement 2, plus car battery it was the only way I didn't just keel over and die.
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>>169109706
>Inb4 Angel Deals had Godhead+Sacred Heart Caverns 1/2
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>>169110535
I dont know if its seeded but I didnt get anything first devil deal and didnt get devil/angel room on the caves. Didnt take any dmg so not my fault there.
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>>169109505
I don't have the cheats.mod.gml file, but it would be an incredibly easy thing to write up. I'll bug joao for a copy of it.

Also, there are many more than the 8 listed! A lot of them were purely experimental, and others simply weren't uploaded. There's only so many given that there were three prominent NTT modders during development, but we've made a pretty decent batch.

>9joao6, the creator of Custom Throne and the original Community Remix. His work is incredibly polished, but he outputs slowly
>Yokin. He mostly dabbles with prototyping, so a lot of his stuff doesn't get published. Makes fun stuff.
>Saniblues -- That's me! My work isn't the greatest, but I'm very big on making something that's appealing on the player's end. I pop em out fast, but they're not necessarily the most polished.

Frankly, I haven't been posting my work to the wiki because I've been too lazy to sign up for an account. I'll package them all in a zip later and upload them somewhere.


Between working on banditmod, I'll start pushing out a few of the ones I've cooked up. Next character mod I post here is either going to be Vendor, or the three gator men riding the fire salamander
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>>169109505
>>169113642
Also, if you scroll up, I've posted several already. Vanthro, Cursed Hyper Crystal, Hostile Rogue, etc
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>>169113642
My vote is Salamander.
Also, that gif is cute as hell. Makes me want a NT RPG.
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>>169113915
>============================
#define step
with(hitme){
if ("right" not in self) right = 1;
if ("oldright" not in self) oldright = right;
if oldright != right{
oldright += (right - oldright) * 0.40;
oldright = clamp(oldright,-1,1);
}
image_xscale = oldright * right;
}
>===============================
That one was a fairly simple one. The only problem is that since the collisions are tied to the sprite, you (and many enemies) can get out of bounds by wallspinning. It's something I've been meaning to fix, and the reason I never published it.
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>>169107840
To be fair, I experience a lot of crashes with Gungeon too, but it always lets you continue from the floor the game crashed on when you load up again.

It seems to be a bit of a problem though. A number of anons are reporting this issue, but at the same time you get some posters claiming they've played hundreds of hours with no problem and our machines are shit even though we can play more demanding games with no issues.
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>>169113642
>I don't have the cheats.mod.gml file, but it would be an incredibly easy thing to write up. I'll bug joao for a copy of it.
Thanks, I bet there's some other neat tricks in there to try out.

Your mods have been great, looking forward to that zip!
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>>169115113
http://pastebin.com/5vbZ5QqK

It mostly uses the chat command function. I'll give you a quick rundown on building your own, type /gmlapi in chat to get a full dump so that you can manipulate things yourself.

The chat_command function is simple: you define a command (represented by argument0), and write and ifelse/switch statement to handle what to do. For example,
>=======================================
#define chat_command
switch(argument0){
case "killall":// Chat command /killall
with(enemy) my_health = 0;
return true; // return "true" to signify the call was successful. Do this at the end of every call.
break;
case "giverad": //chat command /giverad <radcount>
GameCont.rad += real(argument1);
return true;
break;
default:
trace("???");
return false;
}
>=======================================
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>>169115892
Man, this mod is so cool.
It's amazing to see the community take over where the devs fall short. I can still remember playing Vanilla Isaac through Spidermod to have it run smooth and avoid crashes.
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http://pastebin.com/YiL7jMXa

Fire Riders
3 Gator Men on a roadtrip through the wasteland


Passive:
- Cannot pick up weapons
- Innate abilities: Flamethrower, Flame Cannon (M1/M2)
- Three gator men with shotguns on your back
- Gatormen act as armor, absorbing damage before the player takes it. Revive at the beginning of every odd-numbered area.

Active: Flame Cannon
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>going for the prime primer on the second shop
>go the entirety the first two chambers without getting hit and spend no money
>still not enough money to buy it

It's stuff like this that really bugs me with this game. It's made with a gigantic emphasis on starting over and for the player to play flawlessly every time or you can't unlock stuff. The hegemony credits are probably the biggest offender on this, having to be collected like scraps on each run while needing to be accumulated by huge number to be worth a simple item on the breach. Awful mechanic.
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>>169123552
In Addition: Gator Men prioritize Generators over The Throne. These gators tamed a fire salamander for the express purpose of going on a wasteland roadtrip, they are not fucking stupid like Rebel's stupid allies.
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>>169123552
>cannot pick up weapons
there have been many attempts but you literally can't make a character that has that and still is fun
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>>169124608
You have a FlameThrower/Dragon with infinite fuel and a Flame Cannon that you can indiscriminately pop as long as you charge it up (takes about half a second), along with three assholes shooting shotguns at anything they see. Plus, you're playing as the salamander. How is it supposed to pick up weapons?

I wanted to make it so the gators could pick up weapons and use them, but there wasn't a scrFire command exposed at the time. I think yal set something up for that, though?
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>>169123552
that's oddly adorable

by odd numbered area do you mean 1-1, 1-3, etc or just zone 1, zone 3, zone 5
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>>169126319
1-1, 3-1, 5-1, 7-1
They also reset after leaving a Crown Vault, as you are returning to an odd-numbered area. That was an oversight, but one I was okay with.
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>>169126373
that's what I thought

does throne butt do anything?
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>>169126453
Thronebutt: Double Shotguns for Gators, increase flamethrower capacity by 50% (it's limited, but recharges quickly. Forgot to visually represent this, as it is an old mod I haven't touched in a while)

Ultra A:
Flamethrower upgraded to Dragon
Gator Men get Flame Shotguns


Ultra B:
Buff Gator Men
Shotguns replaced with Flak Cannons. Stack with Thronebutt.
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>>169126656
So throne butt + ultra B gives them super flak cannons?
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>>169124608
I don't think fun is the word you're looking for. The mod is really fun to me and just plain silly.
Sure, not being able to pick up weapons cuts down on the variety of the run when your build is pretty much set from the start but it's still fun.
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>>169126835
Just doubles. They have infinite ammo and fire in very quick succession, so you could effectively call it a sextuple flak cannon if all Gators are alive at once.
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>>169124608
It seems fun to me, but I haven't actually played it.
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does anyone know if cheat engine works in NT
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>>169128051
>cheating
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>>169128234
the game cheated me, i just want what it took
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>>169128051
How about you play the fucking game you fucking faggot shitter.
>casuals shitting up the thread with their questions about cheating
Kill yourself
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>>169128454
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>>169128454
kind of hard to when the game crashes every 5th run
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>>169128868
That's from all the cheats you have on there
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>>169128981
I haven't cheated, and I'm not gonna cheat after I give what I lost via crash.

Might do some stuff with NTT shit later though
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Only need Dedication, what now?
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>>168848671
This guy as a playable character when?
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>>169136340
He's the last boss anon
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>lose the old armor
>the shrine is the next room
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is it possible to extract a game save file from isaac so that I can test a synergy with an item later
I have some crazy shit going on and I don't want to fuck up this guaranteed win with monstro's lung
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>>169139083
Just copy the seed and get that item on the next run
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>>169139180
I'm all the way in the chest and I didn't get actually broken until the boss rush
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>>169139265
Well, what's the "guranteed win" you have, anyways?
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>>169139446
guaranteed*
you know what i meant
>>
started with chocolate milk first floor
got tech 2 which lets you shoot the laser and charge the shot at the same time
beat mom, then shit got crazy when I got lump of coal off krampus and then the boss rush room had ludovico
instead of just having the circle laser, it had the floater tear AND lets me shoot the regular laser at the same time
then on top of that already guaranteed win I got eye of the occult, which for some fucking reason shoots other smaller tears out of the big tear while I'm moving it
I mean I'll save the seed if there's no other way but I am morbidly curious as to how monstro's is going to play into this madness
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>>169139797
wow forgot to quote lmao >>169139446
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>>169139797
Honestly, I can't really see Monstro's Lung doing much with that setup besides giving you a damage up, unless Antibirth added in the Afterbirth Lung+Ludovico synergy.
>>
I hate Nuclear Throne more than anything. I have one win and like 500 losses
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>>169140330
I dropped NT for Gungeon.
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>>169137428
>You expel the Lich from the Gungeon
>But a bit of his essence remains and infects a basic Bullet Kin
>Manages to slip into the ranks unnoticed as a new danger threatens the Gungeon in the first paid Expansion
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>16 fucking passives and 2 guns

this is some fucked up rng
i'm tearing people up with the default pistol
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>>169144735
I wish I had that kind of luck.
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Why does the "yo listen!" fairy often hover over pits? It doesn't move at all indicating a secret but it's an area that cant be accessed without flying and there's no secret room or rocks to bomb either? Anyone else come across this? 1RTK P3VH isaac seed. the fairy just gets stuck in catacombs 1 and 2. A new type of secret or bugged item?
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>>169149489
It's indicating a Trapdoor.
Trapdoor generation happens before rocks and shit spawn.
Then Trapdoors with no rock over them are deleted.
Fairy don't care.
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>>169149668
Is there a way to force the trapdoor to open? Let's say theoreticly? Can I use poop while flying then bombing the poop or something? Why is this in the game? Why did Ed actually think it was a good idea to ask for money for this update? So many questions..
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>>169150340
No.
And Ed didn't code Rebirth. Or AB. Or +.
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>>169150638
Who was talking about Ed coding anything? I merely asked where was the quality control. Just walk to 20 rooms and you can see that Yo listen! shows how lazy the coding was. Literally "yo listen should only idle on top of rocks or at 4 "corners" of the room". Am I missing something?
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>>169151842
Oh. I misread.
Answer: Because he's a greedy Jew who refuses to let anything fucking go.
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>>169151842
And literally as I stopped typing this I encountered the phantom spike bug. ROFL. I'm standing on top of spikes and they're dealing no damage :-) I know anyone isn't perfect but this feels a little rushed. Not to mention the void..
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>>169152153
>ROFL.
>:-)
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>>169152153
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Can someone upload the community remix somewhere?
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after getting it and playing it for ~30 hours I can say that I really like the concept of nuclear throne but I don't think I can really Like It as much as I'd want to, with a significant part of that being that killing lil hunter is almost a crap shot because of all the things it does. It spawns so quickly after the level starts you have to beg for a good spawn and also start just fire at everything to have any space at all that's remotely fiable to fight it in

even lab/palace/the fucking throne is less retarded than it is, and big bandit and dog are of course easier

i haven't looped twice in a row yet but even the hard mode bosses seem less bullshit than lil hunter
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>>169155851
I just can't enjoy it because the game frequently spawns me among a crowd of enemies that kick my dick in before I can even figure out what's going on. I really don't understand the love for NT for that reason alone.
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>>169156168
Yea that's a big problem of the lil hunter problem. There's also times where you're spawned in 3-X and you're in a wide area with 7+ snipers on you. It's even worse when it's on 3-3.

It's also (kind of) part of why I don't really like area 5 as a whole, because the main gimmick is beastmen sliding (and it seems incredibly finnicky as to whether or not they stop sliding once they're done) at you for 4 contact damage out of (usually) 8 health.

Melee weapons are near mandatory for later levels too. Unless you've got a really good spam gun for 7-1 and 7-2 you're just at the mercy of spawn and hope there aren't 4 dogs on your ass.

I feel like most of the problems with the game could be fixed if they gave some guarantees on spawn areas.
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>>168960501

Monday goes fine, Tuesday goes great, Wednesday fucks me over. Time to start over!

Progress:

>Marathon: 0/5
>Dedication 3/30
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>>169155851
The only problem with Lil' Hunter is that he provides a challenging boss fight where the other bosses fall short. His moveset is predictable and a melee weapon shuts him down entirely, wrench recommended.

I'll concede to the fact that he does have glaring flaws in his design. I'm rewriting the oasis boss, I'd like to touch on Lil' Hunter at some point in time in the future.

>You have to beg for a good spawn
Luck is only a factor until you develop the skill to deal with anything the game throws at you. That's in regards to the entire game, rather than that isolated battle.

>>169156594
>Melee weapons are near mandatory for later levels too. Unless you've got a really good spam gun for 7-1 and 7-2 you're just at the mercy of spawn and hope there aren't 4 dogs on your ass.
I disagree. Proper positioning does far greater things for your run than any melee weapon could. I never go in with melee, and I've handled things just fine.

Since most enemies aim directly for the player (or in their general vicinity, as is the case with spread), the idea is to direct all of their attacks to one area, then escape into the area that they haven't been spamming. The more movement, the worse off you are.
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>>169158681
>Not just SAMing this shit
why though
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>>169158739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ugJGWzrJu4
I watched this video when I started off. Aggressive playstyles are what will get you to the throne, and this video showcases just that. Dialogue is cringy as fuck, though.
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>>169158997
This video just makes me want to play Hotline Miami.
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>>169158739
>His moveset is predictable and a melee weapon shuts him down entirely, wrench recommended.
I've got golden wrench on crystal (first golden weapon, go me) and I find it's still kind of a pain because the impact flames last for like 1.5-2 seconds and by then there's a relatively high chances he's fucking off somewhere.

Bandit isn't a hard boss, and I don't think he should be, because he's only the first one, but even big dog can be a slightly challening boss if you don't have a good way to get around the bullets. I'd maybe agree with the "challenging boss fight" and others aren't like it, but either the others should be made actually challenging, or him less challenging. Throne (and mostly throne 2) are less difficult than him.

I haven't tried the super tank fight but that's probably more in line with the others.

I can deal with shit spawns, and in particular my first loop I had a laughably bad spawn on 5-2 where I spawned in a tiny room with two cars on top of me and another in the entrance, with the exit area being full of beast men, two who were holding cars. but it's kind of hard to deal with a shit spawn in the handful of seconds it takes for lil hunter to show up.
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>>169159160
I always play NT with Perturbator blaring in my headphones. Best aggressive music.
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>>169159281
>but either the others should be made actually challenging, or him less challenging
Naturally. Why would you have it any other way?

>Big Boss
Easy, but acceptable as a first boss. Leave as-is, though maybe add a desperation phase when depleting all of his health.

>Unused Oasis Boss
This one takes precedence over Big Dog since it's unused. As it stands in the gamefiles, it's just a resprited Rat King from the sewers that vomits bullets instead of rats. I want to make it like a highly aggressive Big Bandit. Sounds lame, but the mod I've been cooking for it feels satisfying to myself personally.

>Big Dog
Needs heavy reworking. I made an entire design doc on how to do it and got it halfway done before I lost interest and made the Hostile Rogue bossfight instead.

>Lil' Hunter
If we're improving the other bosses, he does not need to be touched at all

>Throne I
>Throne II
Too lazy to redo these ones. Plus, they're acceptable as they are -- all I would desire to do is add telegraphs to ThroneII

>Ballmum
She's the only loop boss I like from a design aspect. All I would do is make the fact that toxins heal her easier to understand.

>Hyper Crystal
I already modified one thing that bugged me a lot, being that the Cursed variant doesn't teleport. I'd only want to speed this fight up a bit more.

>Technomancer
Literally just a prop. If you replaced it with a desert barrel that shat out Necromancers, the only noticeable difference would be that you couldn't take Gamma Guts to get a free kill on it. I have big plans for him.

>The Captain
Perfect. I would never dream of touching this battle.
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Is Necrodancer Amplified worth buying?
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>>169164602
Do you want to play as a character that's actually fun and has a strong weapon and mechanic?
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>>169164602
Yes
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>Shotgun Full of Love
>Does good damage AND has Charm
Neat.
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>>169164602
if you're gonna but it do it now why it's still half off. It's fun and in the process of adding more stuff but the full price DLC will be as much as the full game, I just hope they put in a good amount of content.
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>>169166671
It's half off now? I figured it just ran for 7$
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>>169166860
I think I saw that it was half off when I bought it, don't remember. though if I was wrong then thats good. from what I've seen there are gonna be about 3-4 new characters added when they're done as well as more new enemies and modes, but we'll see.
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Just lost a great Gungeon run out of pure greed.
Feels bad, man.
>Floor 1 Battle Standard and Shotgun Full of Love
>Oubliette, finish with >200 Shells
>Black Market gives me Ballot and Chest Friendship, it's fucking raining chests, man
>Space Turtle
>Floor 4, find Cursula selling Elder Blank and Badge
>Do the math, puts me at 9 Curse
>Cue a room with WAY too much bullshit going on and it has those weird dead-ends, get corner-raped by 2 Cursed Red Slimes down to some low HP
>Cue Jammed Wallmonger
>Die within inches of ending him
Why couldn't it have been High Priest.
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>>169168378
tfw you can reliably master round on one of a floor's bosses but you take at least a full heart on average from another
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>>169168716
Pretty much. I can perfect Bullet King, Gorgun, Mine Flayer, and High Priest reliably, but the rest of the cast is a mess overall for me anywhere from "pretty reliably, there's always 'that one hit'" to "fucking barely."
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>>169168954
There's always that one hit when you're two shots from perfecting a boss.
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>Bored at work
>Download Nuclear Throne on vita
>Already have to clock out before I even know it

Damn this is some real time-consuming fun and only for $10.
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>>169171525
How have you not been fired?
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>>169171675
I only play on my breaks and when we're closed with all duties done. They don't ask much for graveyard shift except routine perimeter checks and make sure you're at the entrance to let in day shift staff
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>>169171525
>on vita

I hope Switch gets decent indie support too. I don't want to only play games on my phone.
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>>169172279
Same here I feel like Rogue-Lights are good on a portable device since you can just whip it out and play instantly.

What do you have on your phone? Ridiculous Fishing is all I have.
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>>169172353
RCT 2 port and some MOBAGE games. Most stuff on phones isn't meant for extended play.
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Finished my first post-it note, on Eden
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I'm looking for general Necrodancer advice. I've beaten all-zones with Cadence, Melody, and Nocturna. So I'm decent given that I can clear all-zones mode, but I still feel like I really rely on good RNG to win.

1. What's your favorite type of weapon? I've only cleared all-zones with a warhammer, a bow, a crossbow, and the cutlass. However despite never clearing it with a rapier, I feel like the rapier is the best weapon in the game. You get to absurd damage levels very quickly due to the double damage dash effectively making every +1 damage boost a +2, and it doesn't have any risk of preventing you from retreating from enemies. I find weapons with wide reach like the whip, broadsword, warhammer, axe and so forth can often force you to take damage because a retreat attempt might catch an enemy within their wide range. This can be worked around with better planning I suppose, but I still feel like the rapier is the most consistent weapon. I always make it to zone 5 if I find a rapier, even if I've yet to clear all-zones with one.

2. I'm really not sure how to best use the first bomb. Currently I use it as soon as I can position both a crate/barrel and a cracked wall within its range. You find plenty of bombs later on once you have a decent torch but I find I don't often start hoarding bombs until 2-2. I'm not sure if I'm better off using my starting bomb on shrines or if my current approach of "crate within range of cracked wall" is ideal.

3. On the topic of shrines, which shrines do you guys find are worth taking? To be honest I avoid every shrine like the plague unless I get an early shrine of shadows and can reasonably expect to replace the ring by zone 3. Other than that my only other shrine interaction is with bombing the shrine of peace for a ring of peace. What do you guys think about shrines in general?

4. Killing portal shopkeepers. It seems pretty worthwhile to kill the food shopkeep if you can, but I'm not sure about any of the others. Thoughts?
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>krampus' head + uranus
YES
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>>169179881
Warhammer is op yea so that's pretty good. I don't like rapier (or anything with kill dash) for the sole factor of it messes with my positioning when moving around and fighting. The spear or maybe longsword are probably my favorite out of the not very powerful ones because extra range is really useful in this game. Same for cutlass, obviously.

Yea that's what I do pretty much

I usually just bomb most if they have something usable, but I sometimes use one of the less harmful ones. Blood and shovel ones are ones I use semi frequently

Yea petty much, bombing food is almst always good, others not so much but possible.
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>>169179881
I prefer anything with +1 range or above over weapons with AoE. Rapier is my top pick for the double damage, followed by the Cutlass and the Warhammer.

First bomb goes to the first cracked wall I see, since it's usually a blood shop where you could grab some powerful gear before even leaving the first Zone.

I'll have a few goes at the Shrine of Chance if I'm wearing the Luck Charm or Ring of Luck and the Blood Shrine if it's on the first floor and I don't have a decent weapon yet. Space Shrine always gets bombed for the free map. Honorable bomb-on-sight mentions include War for Ring of War, Blood for Ring of Healing, or Sacrifice for an extra heart container.

I always bomb the Transmogifier for the Transmute scroll. That way I can always have it on hand in the event that I run into a Ring of Becoming. I'll also bomb the Pawnbroker if I have bombs to spare for the free coupon.
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>red key ran out of charge
Well, that's kinda disappointing.
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>>169179881
I do a lot of runs with blood weapons because it's so forgiving of fuckups. I basically never use whip or cat, but I'll take anything else that isn't a dagger. Crossbows are still awkward for me.

I basically just bomb the first thing that can be bombed. End up short on bombs a lot, though. I blame being used to playing as Eli.

I'll take maps sometimes. Blood if I'm already low. No others unless I'm feeling ballsy enough for shadows.

Glass is nice if you're playing aria, of course, but yeah otherwise health is really the biggest target.
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>>168848671
>they still haven't fixed delirium spazzing out when he transforms into brownie
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>>169179881
The Rapier is the most powerful and the most fun, but Warhammer is horrible unbalanced and wrecks everything (used to be even better)
No idea about the bombs, but try not to waste it, since there might be a walled-off shop next floor and bombs are kinda rare.
Most of them are worth taking. The new shrine of peace is great, since it's a free health containter + full heal for some weapon you don't need. Shrine of Darkness is pretty much always a good idea, just remember to put down your ring before you take it.
As for killing shopkeepers, it's always worth it for the food shopkeeper as you can do it with a throwable weapon or a bomb at no cost. The Blood shopkeeper you can be killed easily if you treat him as King Conga or Deep Blues.
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>>169009302
Not him but I mute AB+ just for random 2hu music (obviously I only unmute when it's Lost/Keeper time)
I unironically prefer the McDonald remixes
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>>169191494
Warhammer used to be better? Did they nerf it in a closed beta or something?
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>>169191769
It used to do piercing damage.
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>>169192908
jesus what
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>>169191410
They haven't really fixed anything to do with Delirium's teleporting, he's always jumping directly on top of the player and his last sped-up phase always just makes things worse
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>Doing good in NT
>Shovel, assault slugger, arms, scary face, rhino skin, blood lust, other good shit
>Alright lets just not fuck up on the throne
>Don't run away from the throne in time
>Die
Well that's certainly one of the more anticlimatic deaths I had. I even did really good on hunter because assult slugger
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>>169194342
jojo refernece???

>>169194416
you shouldn't run away from the throne at all
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>>169194971
It moves towards you initially.

At least it's done that the past three times.

After that it'll stay still if you just bait the attacks.
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>>169194416
>>169195421
Ideally you stay back at the generators when you initiate the fight, and don't retreat until it is very close. Worst case scenario the Throne advances enough to make the top two generators harder to hit but by then you should have blown up those already if going for loop.
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>TFW
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never trust acid baby
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is there any way to get 5 nights at mom's easily other than doing it on greedmode?
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>more than 50 hours in NT
>already beat the throne 3 times
>still haven't been able to loop
The throne is a complete pushover, but every time I try to get the generators they take so long to get destroyed the damn throne walks in front of them and it's impossible to hit them, and in the rare occasions when I DO break all of the generators, I've already lost 90% of my health and the guardians kill me.
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>>169201391
>throne walks in front of them
Don't run past the generators, when you run past them, throne does too.
Also if it's really that hard, just go with crystal or a melee weapon so you can destroy the bullets, you'll get good eventually to the point you don't need any protection to loop consistently.
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there is not one fair thing about the lil hunter boss
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>>169204889
Yeah there is.
You get a few seconds to set up and clear enemies + Hamerhead out a safe space.
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>>169204889
there's one, it's called gitting gud
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>>169204889
>he doesn't use melee
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>>169204889
Ah, you make me remember my youthful days.
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I spawn in like a 3x3 room with a narrow one square wide hall with a golden turret guy there and lil hunter just drops in and starts spraying bouncer bullets everywhere
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Is today the day?
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>>169206859
I don't remember.
So probably not.
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>>169196357
>Ideally you stay back at the generators when you initiate the fight
Yea that's what I used to do but then it just immediately charged up to me and I couldn't kill the generators.

I mostly just try and stall it now, but I just didn't move back for the intitial thing in time
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>>169208386
>immediately charged up to me
it doesn't move unless you're too far away from it
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>>169208530
I was right next to it and died because it ran at me.

Maybe it considers that "away" from it at the beginning, but usually the range is much farther out.
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First time fighting Ultra greedier, what should I expect?
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I know I'm still new to the game and I should expect to die often... But this one hurt me losing. It's my dumbest death yet.
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DUDE, KEYS.
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>>169210048
Just lockpick it Lmao
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Who is the best nuclear and why is it fish?
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>>169210447
That isn't plant
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>>169209012
The wrath locust?
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>>169210048
>clear through floor 3
>one key drop so far as hunter
DOG
PLEASE
FIND ME KEYS
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I've been playing Binding of Isaac Afterbirth (torrented) and keep getting this on shockwave-type attacks. It makes Mom's Heart impossible.
Can I fix it? Should I just get Afterbirth+? Should I go play Rebirth, since I see people bitch about the DLC?
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>>169215020
>torrented
>Can I fix it?
But the game.
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>>169215020
don't buy ab+
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>>169211257
A Sucker. I killed it and failed to dodge the projectile.
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>>169210185
I did. I opened a total of 5 locks on the floor, including the Chest behind it, only 2 worked and the only other one that worked was a fucking Brown Chest that gave me the basic Shotgun.
This game overly relies on key drops (that don't fucking exist) just to have fun.
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>>169215712
The basic shotgun is super good though, vastly superior to the sawed-off.
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>>169215850
I agree. I would've much preferred a decent Passive tho.
I.E. the only thing that makes most runs fun.
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>>169215129
No thank you :^)
welp, it seems the problem is that I only have an internal GPU. Tough luck.
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SUPER
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>>169219395
HOT
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>Doing good in nt
>Spawn on 7-1 in a small shoot off room with 4 dogs and the ground entirely covered with generators
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>>169208808
Don't get close to him or the doors, those doors will shoot brimstone at you.
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Gungeon update.
Notable Changes:
>Glass Guon Stone now rarer in shops
>Controllers work better
>Challenge Mode a little easier and cheaper after 30 attempts
>Teleporting out of bounds bug fixed
>Bunch of other fixes
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>>169225156
>Adrenaline Rush - Reduced increased and max speed in boss fights
nigga wot
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>Money Pit, one of the more tedious achievements in the game, has no unlock
Why.
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>>169225156
>Adrenaline Rush - Reduced increased and max speed in boss fights
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>>169225156
m-maybe I can beat challenge mode now
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>>169225156
All they had to do was make it so Challenge/Blessed runs let you earn Credits to lessen the shitty farm problems it causes.
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>0% chance to jam
>jams
I don't know why I'm doing this, I'm going to hate the keeper.
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>>169230098
I am genuinely convinced that the Machine's Jam chance is not per-coin. It has to be per-tick or some bullshit and if it ever triggers, next Penny jams.
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is today's daily not bullshit? Havent seen anyone talking about it.
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Wow camo undies is horrible.

Nothing in the game makes me lag even slightly, and I"ve broken the game a few times and it was alright.

But camo undies makes my game very laggy, but as soon as the effect goes away its fine.
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I can't fucking stand to play the pilot. Convict has her shitty shotgun, Hunter has her crossbow, Marine has his great starter pistol.

FOR YOU and lockpick doesn't feel worth it. I hate playing the first floor with him.
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>>169228616
blessed runs are the only ones that don't, you can still earn credits in challenge mode and it's been that way from the beginning
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>>169236043
Even though I like Convict the best (her Pistol is the best of the 4 if you exclude Marine's Passive), Pilot is very playable on Floor 1 and in my honest opinion, ramps the easiest for getting Unlocks.
>Cheaper prices means you can safely go Oubliette even with 0 Key Drops AND still have enough for Prime Primer
>Extra Inventory Slot means you can pick up the TV end of floor 2 and also give up your pick end of 3 for the Gunpowder (If you find no extra slots)
>If you feel like you can't give it up by then, your run is so shit you may as well restart
>It also goes off the assumption the game doesn't throw Actives at you, which if you're lucky, it doesn't (Besides 1-time use)
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>>169236439
I think... my game may be broke.
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>>169236043
pilot is pretty much agreed upon to be the worst character. All his benefits except extra ammo are RNG based. lockpick is 50/50 discount on shops doesn't mean you'll get anything good in them except keys (and the discount isn't even that great) extra active item is neat but it's RNG dependant on whether or not you'll get useful items, and his starter weapon is hot garbage so you need to switch it for something else as soon as possible except that RNG on whether or not you'll get a gun from a chest.
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>>169236786
well shit, maybe uninstall it and reinstall it to see if that helps.
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>>169206859

Oh, hello Thursday.

Disgaea got me through some hard times. Funny thing is, I didn't realize Naota from FLCL and Laharl both shared Barbara Goodson as English VA until a month or so ago. Item World was always fun but weird.

Anyway, enough weebing out. Some basic play results after 34 hours of original Isaac. 40 Achievements complete. Cain's my favorite so far. The luck bonus makes general exploration and risk/reward decisions really fun. I've beaten the Cathedral twice so far.
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>cursed bullets on floor 1
>buy spice immediately after this from Cursula
>open a secret room chest which contains another spice
Even my standard gun was tearing enemies apart.
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>>169236647
I've handed the Prime Primer over to that blacksmith lady, so I can ditch him until I decide to do his past, right?
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>>169237274
Personal choice really.
Starting with 2 slots and the ability to ignore Key Misery if lucky is pretty powerful if you haven't gotten Gunpowder or the TV done.
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>>169237274
the pilot's best use is unlocking elevator shortcuts and other challenges of the like that require you to bring things to places since he can have 2 actives it makes it easier to bring the TV or since he has the lockpick he can sacrifice keys to bring them to fix the elevator.
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>>169237406
>>169237504
Is there any benefit to doing the elevator besides practicing floors?

And I guess I could use him for TV runs.
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>>169237795
Fixing the elevator unlocks new items and guns, but actually using the shortcuts is normally useless. You end up underpowered, especially on the lower floors. Also, the guns you get when you take a shortcut are the ones you'll always get until you clear that floor with them. Have fun fighting the Dragun if it gives you a bunch of shit guns.
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>>169237795
Opening the Forge Shortcut unlocks Boss Rush (easy farm for Frifle when he gives you Boss hunts) and Akey-47, an S-Rank Gun that fires keys.
Flynt regularly sells it for 3 Keys.
It can open any Lock except Oubliette, but lets you open that for free.
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>>169237795
after the first unlock which gives you the ability to unlock the TV and gets you gun boots each elevator done gives you a great item. the mine elevator done gives an item which gives immunity to fire and poison, the hollow elevator done gives a gun that increases speed while held rapid fires and does good damaga and can refill it's ammo by reloading on top off piles of goo oil posion etc., and the last elevator done gives the AKEY-47 which is an AK except while held it opens all locks for free (you can also shoot locks to open them if you want.)

Lastly after fixing all elevators you can go do boss rush mode.
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>>169237406
>>169237504
Keys are far less of an issue since the supply drop update. I seem to get at least one key per floor, include the guarenteed shop key and you don't have to worry much.
Taking the oubilette helps too. I unlocked elevator five as the hunter,
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>>169238497
I still find Key drops to either be really really good, 3+ Floor 1 and 1-2 every floor after or really shit, get to Hollow with 0 Keys found.
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Are they contacting people about their mods for the booster packs?
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>>169239597
They said they'd spend ~half of February contacting, compiling, and sorting January mods.
So probably not.
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>beat the 3rd floor boss
>get the trash cannon
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how the HELL do i beat that bell cthulu boss without getting hit

guess i should have saved some of my blanks
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>>169240723
Read his patterns and react accordingly.
Mine Flayer is actually as easy as Cannon Balrog in my honest opinion.
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>every single time i get sir junk it's usually on the last floor so i can't break 3 chests for him

thanks
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I've seen 5 green bats yet I've never run into this thing before.

I hope there's no achievement tied to it.
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>Finally get to Dragun for the first time on challenge
>Die

How the fuck am I supposed to do that???
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>>169244037
it might be a new enemy, i've never seen it before
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>>169244037
I've never seen it and it's not on the wiki either.
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>>169244265
By shooting him and remaining unshot.
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>>169244037
what does it do?
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>>169244578
It covers a 2x2 area like a Gold Slime, but it moves in an X shaped pattern instead.
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>>169244761
that just sounds like a worse ice or fire slime
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>>169244515
>>169244265
Turns out the answer is getting a bunch of broken shit

As is the answer to most roguelites
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>>169247938
>gunther
>thornmail as bullet
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Has anyone encountered the new challenge mode modifiers? There are apparently one for Pillars and High Priest.

I know Wallmonger gets two snipers on top of it you can't kill and shoot at you
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>>169249486
dunno, but I'm really glad they did that, honestly all bosses should get a special version instead of gorgon's gaze+gull's revenge+dark was the night or some other bullshit like that. It's either that or something that doesn't matter like ghost in the shell on trigger twins.
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>>169216658
You can disable some effects, try goggling for rebirth/afterbirth performance something and you should find a Steam forums post that explains what you need to do. IIRC you need to add a config.ini file in your resources folder with a few lines to disable stuff.
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>>169158984

To prove that I can. Today's daily was to the edge, fully.

Marathon: 1/5
Dedication: 4/30

Let's hope that tomorrow's run is easy as well.
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About to play Enter the Gungeon for the first time. Any tips?
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>>169253116
learn to dodge roll well, buy keys
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>>169253116
Once you unlock Tailor, don't buy Keys and play Pilot exclusively until you finish his Quest.
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>>169254547
>>169254882
Do I open every chest?
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Would anyone want to watch me play NT? I took a really long break.
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>>169253116
Character difficulty is
Doom Marine<Woman Van Helsing<Convict<Han Solo
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>>169256693
Yeah sure I'll watch you fail for like 20 minutes or something.
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>>169256828
Okay. If I didn't fuck it up it should be .tv/sshuckle
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>>169256635
for now yeah, just experiment
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Best Rogue-lite?
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>>169259865

Spelunky.
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>>169240723
I find it much easier to dodge attacks by staying by the bottom of the room, just be careful of the circle patterns that move slightly in one way and then speed off in the other, If you change your positioning by 90 degrees after he begins it's easy to dodge.
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>>169237057
>Cain's my favorite so far.
You poor soul, you.
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Does crown of haste effect robot's ability? I think second stomach does
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>>169260881

Would you rather have original BoI Cain or current Cain?

It's narrow, but I think I'd take BoI Cain.
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>>169261854
Built-in PHD is amazing. Not ever having to gamble with Pills (there was no stupid bullshit like Retro Vision back then) was amazing.
Keys are common enough that the Lockpick isn't that amazing.
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>>169168954

Damn, I've heard High Priest gives a lot of people shit. I personally love getting WallMonger on Floor 4, I've got it's patterns down pretty well.

Ammoconda I will never figure out.
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>>169262913
I'd be happy to fight kill pillars on floor 4 every run ever
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>>169263078

I've been improving with them. Just did a SuperHot Watch run and that kind of fucked up my flow, but they are pretty fast when they're chasing you.
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>>169262913
This. I can perfect wallmonger and sometimes the kill pillars, but high priest has killed me more times than the dragun
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>>169262913
>>169263561
It's weird, the first ~20 times I've visited Hollow, my boss was High Priest. I got Kill Pillars for the first time after that and they utterly butt-fucked me.
I got Wallmonger for the first time 3 days ago.
I've had the game since release.
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is there some trick to getting jacob and esau to separate so I can pick up 2 items at once
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>>169266225
Control key.
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>>169266225
I think if you hold the drop/switch button you can make Esau stop moving, although I don't actually remember if that's the button
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>>169266307
yeah thanks
gonna be doing some multi-track drifting
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>>169266404
>Stitches on J&E
If you use that actively, you are a fucking madman and I love you.
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>>169266540
>free nuke on a 1 second cd
desync be damned
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>>169267018
+ free stuff without needing to bomb or fly over pits.
And it removes projectiles in the immediate area of where you TP too.
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>>169267095
woah it pops projectiles? shit I didn't know that
this item is too good to not take
>>
STILLBUUUUUURN
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>>169267157
Yeah. It's only a small radius tho, so you can't like TP into a bunch of Mom's Bullets and expect to come out unscathed. Especially not as J&E. It's basically just the immediate area where you land and a tiny bit around it. I've killed a bunch of Clottys that way and not taken damage. Doesn't protect you from Champions that leave Creep or Explode or Split tho.
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>Can't clear zone 4 as Monk
>Visit the items for next run shop to try to get an advantage
>Always die to dumb bullshit on the first floor when I buy items
>Do great when I go in with default equipment to farm more gems
This is hell
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reminder that fuck lil hunter
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>accidentally get a strong as fuck judas in greed mode
>ultra greed is a slightly quicker slog
>donation machine jams after TWO FUCKING PENNIES
There are no words for what I'm feeling right now, goddamn. Whoever thought it was cute to have it jam for a while at 109 no matter back on release needs to get shot.
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Am I the only person who feels like Dead Ringer is the hardest fight in Necrodancer by a fucking mile?

Nothing else even comes close, although I've not yet fought the Lute with Aria.
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>>169274757
It's easy if you know how to do the second phase.

Which is just get in the center and go down, and then when he runs down, hop over to the column with the gong
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>>169274757
it's pretty easy, the only annoying thing is linging him up for the final hit.
If you don't know how to fight them the lute is the hardest for sure.
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>>169274757
King Conga is definitely my weakest fight, barring Deep Blues as monk.
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>>169257082
fuck off shuckle, you said that you hates these threads because "muh /ntg/"
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>>169274757
Nope, thats always the fight I choke on
I either get the kill right away or I fuck up positioning him for 30 seconds then die
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>>169276471
If you're already near the gong and you're feeling really gutsy then you could just dig buffer against the gong without losing the beat.
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>>169280993
>i'll tell the guy to fuck off hours after he's gone
I don't like the guy either but don't be as stupid as he is.
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Guess I'll do one more Enter the Funions run.
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bamp
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>>169274757
If it's not him that wrecks it's the Dorian dying in the next fight if red dragons spawn. Why the fuck can he move one space here but not when you actually play him?
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>>169294832
does ETG have any gunions in it
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>>169298943
Nope.
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>>169298931
new dorian final boss: cadence's necrodancer except cadence has her default items and health, dorian keeps whatever you entered the fight with including boots of leaping
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>>169298931
Maybe he got to take them off when he was promoted to boss status.
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>glass rapier and ring of courage on floor one
>break weapon to coral riff because i got greedy and didn't want to kill the adds
frig.
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so are there any actual "content" mods for nt or is it just dick around shit
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>>169311456
content mods, as in mods that add additional content to the game?
the ultra mod http://thronebutt.com/mods/16
community remix http://thronebutt.com/mods/10
some weird mod that changes the game a bit http://thronebutt.com/mods/21
and i'm sure there's a few more out there and/or coming out soon
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>>169311792
>Mod from 2013
would that even work with anytyhing current
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>>169312117
if you mean the current version of the game, no.
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>make a NT soundmod
>master sound at 1% while music is 100%
>still effect sounds override the music
I even tried amplifying the music with audacity but it gets extremely distorted when I do that.
What am I doing wrong?
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>>169136340
what if that's the Cosmonaut that was cut during development
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>>169318708
IT'S THE FUCKING LICH YOU MORON
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>>169318708
does anybody know why they cut the cosmonaut? time constraints?
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why is keeper so shit without swallowed penny
why have 2(3 if you count blue baby) purposefully gimped characters in one game
fucking breadman
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>>169319143
how do you know they aren't one and the same?
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>>169319974
You said it yourself.
Because Edmund.
He just has the view that unless it literally breaks the game or makes it too easy to win for the player, it doesn't need fixing.
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There was an update today for AB+ - what's in it?
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>>169322994
an additional 20 co-op babies that do absolutely nothing
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>>169323117

Well, that sucks. Why the obsession with co-op babies?
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>>169323195
his wife likes playing co op
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>>169323195
to help "encourage" chewing your steak with someone else
also did you really believe me? it was a joke, man
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>>169323292
His wife loves Isaac in general, he himself said she plays like an hour or two every fucking day.
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http://pastebin.com/LFUJYHPL

Crown of Popo, alias "gunfurunfu/rogue raifu for laifu"

> All IDPD drop Strike Ammo
> Starting Weapon is automatically cursed
> <Empty> Secondary Weapon Slot is also cursed
> Weapon Pickups will automatically destroy themselves periodically
> Weapon Drops destroy themselves. Only One Gunfu for Every Runfu
> All chests are replaced by IDPD chests. Weapon chests have a chance to spawn as two.
> Vans stop if they pass the player, and blow up after one second
> On high difficulties, vans swerve towards the player (saniblues/reallyjoel's dad)
> Comes with a free crown

Has five presets
> Easy: 30 second timer, Heat 0, Normal spawns
> Normal: 15 second timer, Heat 1, Normal spawns
> Hard: 12 second timer, Heat 3, Van spawns
> Saniblues: 6 second timer, Heat 6, Van spawns
> Reallydad: 3 second timer, Heat 10, Elite Portal Spawns only
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>>169324673
I hope for one of you to do me proud and at least beat the game on the Saniblues preset. Protect this smile.
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>>169323383

Man, I thought it was genuine! Oh well, maybe that other site will know...
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>>169324673
>reallyjoel's dad mode
YOU MADMAN
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>>169324673
>reallyjoel's dad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IxmklUgEM
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>>169311456
What would you define as "dick around shit?" There's currently mods that add characters, bosses, update current (see above:Cursed Hyper Crystal), and a lot of others. Hostile Rogue? Titank? What's your poison?
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did i miss something or is antibirth still not updated
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is there a reason you would ever want gamma guts

it just seems so awful

sharp teeth you could at least maybe do stuff with rebel
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>>169330419
run into enemies
kill them without getting hurt
works on bandits, maggots, rats, ravens, freaks (the revived ones only with scarier face for some reason) and others
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>>169330419
Gamma Guts outright kills things that touch you if their health is at or below six. It serves as a good "Fuck You" to IDPD in general, most non-explosive enemies, and in particular, makes dealing with Big Bandit on loops incredibly easy -- run into them as soon as they end their spawndash, and they die. It's a fucking miracle.

Also, it makes the TechnoProp even easier than it already was. TechnoProp is a garbage """"""""boss""""""""
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>>169330543
Looking at the values, does it kill snowbeats if you have scary face? That'd be decent.
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>>169330878
it does 50% of the time
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>>169330878
It does as long as you're moving. It's a quirk with how jw set it up, should function normally in NTT for whatever reason.
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>>169330938
It's not consistent? what the fuck
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>>169330543
Gamma Guts also works on snowbots when you have Scarier Face. Makes frozen city much nicer when you literally don't have to care about a third of the enemies.
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>>169330998
If the snowbot is sliding at you, you'll often hit it enough times to kill it before it touches you.
But in rare occasions it may get enough i-frames to deal damage.
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>>169331061
Yea after looking at the actual hp values of a lot of the things it's not bad.

I don't even have (much) trouble with them but i hate the snowbots.
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Trying to unlock Melting B is suffering
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>>169331215
playing melting is suffering
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>>169331215
>>169331291
g i t
u
d
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>>169331215
>>169331291
melting is suffering
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>>169331215
>>169331291
>>169331352
>>169331428
>tfw you finally get Melting B and can now permit yourself to pick up Strong Spirit and Rhino Skin so you can start looping with him
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>>169332753
>not delaying your strong spirit and rhino skin until after you've transformed into skeleton, gotten as many more mutations as possible, then returning to melting form and mutating SS+RS afterwards
Get good, kiddo
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mfw level 3 polaris, meatbun and full metal jacket
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>>169333117
they fixed that
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>>169334773
ok kiddo
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>>169334957
no they actually did
your mutations actually reset not when you transform into another character
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>>169335124
i don't doubt him, i'm just shitposting
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>>169324673
>always go to cheese caves
Well, fuck.
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>Play as the robot
>Only ever get things that can only work if you have red HP rather than all armor

every single time. I wanna use him for challenge mode since high stress has no negative effects on him, but I can't stop getting useless heart containers and shrines that don't work without health.
>>
are there any recommendations on what golden gun to get for everyone

i just stuck with the first one i got, which is mostly laser, crossbow, and wrench
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>>169336545
golden nuke launcher on everyone
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>>169336607
ha

i've seen a lot of people say golden splinter gun is generally the best
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>>169336545
wrench for eyes
crossbow for steroids
splinter gun for everyone else unless you wanna spice it up

>>169336607
as someone who unlocked the nuke launcher, i've got to say it's terrible
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>>169336769
If you go for the first level gun you can use that until the launcher is viable
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>>169336740
i personally prefer splinter pistol for the higher DPS and accuracy, but splinter gun is much more ammo efficient.
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>>169338205
oh, and you can get splinter pistol pre-loop and I'm fairly sure gun is post-loop exclusive.
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There was some dank memes going on in this run.
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>>169338205
>>169338378
there is no golden splinter pistol you silky barborine
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>>169338602
then what the fuck am i on about?
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I wish edmund woulda put more work into AB+
the delirium level could have been different rooms combined with different rooms and enemies that are a combination of enemies from different floors. But instead he literally just used already existing rooms and put them together, and at that point in the game you can beat all the old rooms no problem.
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>>169339975
Edmund isn't a game maker. Just an ideas guy with enough backing to do it.
And have you seen the Room Editor? That's what they've been using to make Rooms. I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to use that thing.
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>>169283307

This is the problem I have as well. I'm garbage at positioning him in phase 2.
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>>169331215
And now the suffering is over

Energy Hammer was GOAT for the Throne fight
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>>169343324
...Though apparently Nuclear Throne Together, even with no mods loaded, seems to disable the actual Steam achievements.

Can't say I'm too pleased with this development.
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>>169332753
>tfw used to think this looked decent back then

WHERE THE HELL IS UPDATE 99/100
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>>169343636
Oh well, I guess I'll see later if transferring the save back to regular unlocks it, and if not, Steam Achievement Manager can hopefully fix it if nothing else.
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>>169343636
Unfortunately it does. It was a show of good faith to Vlambeer on yal's part, though I could always bug him about seeing if he'll allow achievement unlocking when mods aren't loaded.
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>>169344076
Achievements are retroactively unlocked when present in the savefile due to early access, yes. You just need to do something that triggers a Save iirc, like unlocking a Golden Weapon.

>>169343990
>wanting one of Vlambeer's pathetic non-functional bugfixes
for what purpose?
>WHERE THE HELL IS UPDATE 99?
Humble Bundle. They broke it worse, somehow.
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>>169343990
Never ever.

>>169344752
It's the main reason I don't have it installed.
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>>169344752
>though I could always bug him about seeing if he'll allow achievement unlocking when mods aren't loaded.

This would be great, because I'm using NTT basically as a fill-in for U99 (and honestly with all the additional bugfixes in it you could basically call it the unofficial U100). Would save the hassle of having to go back to normal game and do tricks to get the achievements to pop.

>>169344892
>Achievements are retroactively unlocked when present in the savefile due to early access, yes. You just need to do something that triggers a Save iirc, like unlocking a Golden Weapon.

Good to know, thanks.
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>>169344892
>Humble Bundle. They broke it worse, somehow.
Didn't the newest NTT put in update 99
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>>169345107
It put in some of the fixes, as written by yal.

The fixes Rami put in, as written by Rami, were derived from pointers that yal and a handful of modders deduced from connecting the dots.

A lot of problems that were present in u19 are still present as far as u98, and one problem in particular is that objects registered as props are destroyed by chests during level generation. This is, in fact, what caused the corrupted crown vault glitch -- CrownGuardian statues are destroyed the same way, and their on-destroy event deletes the Crown pickup and reverts the area. It was a simple matter of either making it so that CrownGuardian statues are not destroyed during generation, rewriting the destruction code, or just not making them props -- Rami did none of these things, and somehow made it so Corrupted Crown Vaults instead keep you trapped there forever ala vintage YV's Crib glitch.

Do not ever believe in Rami's lies.
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>>169308297
>Coral Riff
>feeling lazy
>throw dagger, place bomb
>it's Aria Zone 2 so the bomb doesn't finish it off

I still kick myself just thinking about that one run.
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>>169308297
>glass rapier and ring of courage on floor one

That sounds fucking fun. I wish there was like a list of seeds with crazy shit like this but the seeds seem to change every patch so it's hard to find something current.
>>
>It's another hammer time on a boss episode
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>>169345107
>>169345958
Do not forget: Rami is the same person that has been dragging his feet for an entire year to launch one simple bugfix update. In the span of that time, he has spoken at several game conferences, written a game about his college experience cleaning toilets outside of a gamedev classroom, got engaged to a girl through an online videogame, and somehow made relations with NT's community even worse than it already is. He complains about how entitled he feels his paying customers are, and how hard being a gamedev is

In contrast, yal disassembled and recompiled Nuclear Throne's source code for the express purpose of releasing free mod updates, fixed all the bugs, rewrote heavy portions of the game to not be stupid internally, added online co-op, and modding support in roughly the same amount of time. He did this between contracted work.


Really gets my neurons in a rumble
>>
https://twitter.com/DodgeRollGames/status/835245207251791876

Probably news on the next big update
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>>169345958
there's also the game crashing on boss intros
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>>169347301
It's unfortunately likely to just be a Switch/Xbox/Port announcement, but I still have hope
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>>169347301
>In a week
>Switch comes out in a week
>>
Here is a fun mod for all you NTT players out there, and very simple to do!
> /gml race_set_active(6,0)
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The Badge is the most offensive item in this game.

I can't save an old man 2 days from retirement from the Dragun.

How could you Dodge Roll?
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>>169350425
They aren't gonna throw punches.
They will however ensure you only get 1 S-rank item in a Run tho.
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>>169351140
There's no way to get another through curse chests or something?
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>gungeon run going great
>but the game never gives me ammo

it's cool, i want to be fighting the treadnaught with my pistol
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>>169351293
Finding an A or S-rank Item reduces your chances of finding another one by having an 80% chance of reducing the rarity of the Chest/Item by 1, S to A, A to B, etc.
It's per one picked up.
2nd one raises downgrade chance to 95%.
3rd+ just increase it slightly into 98/99%.
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>>169351436
>run going great
>never gives me ammo

then step up your curse game, senpai. Cursed Pots, Cursed Guns / Items, Cursula purchases, Stealing from any shop via the myriad of items that allow it, shrines, etc. etc.
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>>169352084
Being cursed makes ammo show up more?
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>>169350425
if you don't talk to the officer after he dies he respawns in the next chamber. If you talk to him you get curse and a damage boost.

>>169351293
Black chests aren't cursed chests, they look evil but just have the top tier items in the game.
>>
Super slugger w/ shotgun shoulders or hyper rifle for the throne?
>>
how much spice do you guys recommend

i'm thinking 3
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>>169352764

yeah, brah. http://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Curse

>*chance to receive ammo upon clearing a room goes up with each point of curse
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>>169352923
I meant gatling slugger, not super slugger.
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>>169352970
if you wanna be safe, go 2 or 3. If you're the robot just get every spice you can.
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>>169352923
Both are good weapons, though the latter is better with Glands than not. What's your secondary weapon?
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>>169353059
shovel

no long arms
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>>169353081
Ditch the shovel and go with Gatling Slugger/Hyper Rifle. The Throne's projectiles are easy to dodge, and you can cheese it by edging the carpet to force the Rad Cannon. It's not 100% guaranteed, but it's more than likely going to use it.

Additionally, both have a much better damage output than the shovel, whose only worth is deleting bullets against The Throne. If you kill it, it can't kill you.

If you insist on sticking with it, go with the Gatling Slugger.
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man fuck anything in isaac that fires 360 degree lasers or brimstone shots
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>>169352978
I'm not him, but i must be the unluckiest motherfucker in the planet cause my ammo drops don't seem to go up at all no matter how many curses i have
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>>169353237
Yea but the thing is I always choke to his spread, even though it's super easy.

There's also throne 2, which is slightly less easy, and again, choke.

I think I'm gonna stick with gatling/shovel and see if I don't fuck up. I'm honestly completely surprised I'm alive because I spawned on 7-2 with no ammo and like 5 of the rapid fire idpd
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I've really fucked up this time.
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>>169353439
The Shovel is what's keeping you from getting a decent amount of ammo. Ammo drops are based on the weapons you're carrying, and given that (most) melee doesn't use any ammo, the drops are randomized when you carry them.

In contrast, if you take two weapons of the same type, all ammo drops are funneled to that type.
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>>169353515
just do it another time as the pilot, it's easy.
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>>169353536
I thought it worked int hat ammo drops only gen when you pick them up, and then it's weighted towards your main, and only if you pick them up with melees does it go to random.

Anyway, I managed to kill Throne, but when I looped I forgot that throne 2's laser things just kind of stay there and don't go away, so I ended up running into them.

I got my first crown though, so that's a plus.
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>>169353841
The ammo is only allocated when you pick them up, yes. They have a bias towards your primary, but they'll still drop for your secondary -- quite often, in fact.
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>>169353962
What are considered the "good" crowns? I've only ever really tried haste.
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Crown of guns seems to be the other pre-loop one I'd try
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>>169354225
Generally speaking, Crown of Curses. You should take a Crown no differently than you would a mutation, though. Factor it in to the character you're using, the mutations you have, and the weapons you want.

>Crown of Risk is a good crown for Melting, for example. Increased drops when at full health, decreased when not -- Melting has 2hp.
>Guns is good for Robot and Steroids, where the former gets infinite sustenance and the latter gets weapons all of the fucking day
>Haste stacks with Fish's already-increased ammo drops
>You'd think Life stacks with Chicken, but please; don't do this.


Post-loop, I particularly like Luck and Hatred. Luck makes you spawn with 1hp while enemies have a chance to do the same, and Hatred gives you rads in return for health when touching a Chest. It's all about knowing how to apply them to a given build.
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>>169354225
Mostly depends on the character. Blood and risk are fantastic on melting, hatred is pretty good on crystal and horror. Honestly, i've always enjoyed crown of curses on everyone else since cheese caves are a great rad source (if you get out alive).
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>>169354769
Have you considered Luck with Plant? Most people shoot for the Horror Anomaly meme build, but Plant+Thronebutt:CoLuck:Ultra A is a pretty good combo
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>>169354826
NT doesn't run for whatever reason on my laptop, and i've been too busy with work to get that taken care of. I haven't touched the game in about 6 months, this is just what i remember using back then on my old desktop
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A few discordfags have the antibirth dev build, they're working on it
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>tfw trying to get Plant's B-skin
>despite never having even beaten throne 1 (outside of NTT co-op) before
why do i do these things to myself
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>>169355719
remember to use oasis skiP!
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>titanium cutlass in a hidden chest on zone 1-2 of Necrodancer

Holy FUCK
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>>169355957
nice
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>>169355957
They finally added variants of that?
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>>169356056
>>169356296

This is the most insane run I've ever had. I haven't even entered zone 2 yet and I've basically got an endgame build.

I just need to find the food shopkeep for some hearts.

Is there any way to find the seed of a run in progress?
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>>169356296
a few weeks ago
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>>169356380
man you're loaded
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>>169355719
>tfw got plant b skin with .12 seconds to spare
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>>169356467
It was a ridiculously lucky start. I bought a monocle, saw boots of pain in a crate, bombed the crate, then used the boots of pain to open like five other crates. Found the secret shop that spawns enemies and it had the platemail (and an obsidian cutlass), then got the ring of ice by getting a flawless kill on deep blues.

I haven't found any other items worth taking yet but it doesn't really matter because I already have an endgame build. Currently in zone 3.
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>>169357346
>shovel of strength

This run feels like cheating
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>>169357897
Shovel knight is probably my favorite new item.

Damage torch is good too
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screenshot back from when FUN was allowed
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Well if anyone wants the easiest run ever, the seed is 9494525.

Like I said earlier, there's a hidden chest with a titanium cutlass in zone 1-2, and a crate with boots of pain in either 1-1 or 1-2 that'll let you open a bunch of other crates (there's walled off room with 4 crates on either 1-2 or 1-3). There's an early monocle available, an early platemail or obsidian cutlass from a secret shop in 1-2 or 1-3 (don't remember which), and plenty of opportunities to get to 10 hearts (you find lots of corrupted hearts and a heal spell in zone 2 to uncorrupt them). As mentioned earlier you also get an early ring of ice if you perfect deep blues. I also had like 13 bombs by zone 2-2 so you can visit basically every secret shop.

It was seriously the easiest run I've ever had. My clear time is long but that's because I was wandering around with my monocle checking every crate and shit.
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I still haven't unlocked Bullet Hell because Pilot drains all joy from playing the game.
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Someone make a new thread
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>>169362748
>>169362748
>>169362748
I made a new thread.
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>>169362768
You're a good Mutant.
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