/lite/ - Roguelite general

BOY HOWDY AFTERBIRTH+ SURE IS SHIT HUH FELLAS

>>168516678
Do people still not like it? I think it was pretty alright. I like a meaty challenge and delirium is a pretty fun boss.

Welcome back. How was your day?
I haven't been in the mood for Rogue-lites, so I've been playing Subnautica.

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That took a bit longer than it should.

Liver failure.

>almost the end of thursday
>still no antibirth update
oh i'm mad

>>168516935
bad game design is not "meaty" challenge

>>168520189
>End of Thursday
It's 1:00 in the afternoon here in U.S. Central.

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Looks like im killing her past tonight boys

Antibirth patch notes (1/2):
- Fixed several rooms with unfair damage
- Fixed Moles not popping up when no path to the player can be found
- Fixed a speed desyncing issue with Jacob caused by Rock Bottom, Libra and Goat Hoof
- Fixed Money=Power not updating damage for Jacob in some cases
- Fixed Bethany unlocking the wrong item when defeating the Witness
- Fixed glitched unlock requirement for Member Card (spend a lot of money in a single shop)
- Fixed challenge trophy not dropping at the end of Isaac's Awakening
- Fixed key/knife pieces not merging when picked up with Jacob and Esau
- Fixed Experimental Pill being able to give a Health Down when at 1 heart container
- Fixed Blood Oath dealing more damage than intended when the player has rotten hearts
- Fixed battery machines and Voodoo Pin killing the player if they have rotten hearts or ended up with no health from taking a deal with the devil
- Fixed a bug with the save/continue feature which caused the Witness to appear on the first floor
- Fixed a broken interaction between Dr Fetus/Epic Fetus and Oculus Rift
- Fixed Knockout Drops knocking enemies back in the wrong direction with Dr Fetus, Epic Fetus and Spirit Sword
- Fixed Magic Skin giving broken hearts to the Lost
- Fixed the Mausoleum entrance door taking infinite hearts after a save/continue
- Fixed Curse of the Labyrinth breaking floor ordering if the player has Black Candle
- Fixed Booster Pack being able to spawn Suicide King when playing as Jacob
- Fixed a possible issue where Devil/Angel room doors would spawn on top of an existing door
- Fixed Sulfur permanently giving Brimstone if used more than once in the same room
- Fixed an issue with Jacob/co-op mode where certain item pedestals would disappear upon leaving the room
- Fixed certain unlockable items spawning from special rocks even if they haven't been unlocked yet
- Fixed Terra not giving its damage increase straight away
- Fixed D4 being able to kill Bethany in some cases

Antibirth patch notes (2/2):
- Fixed Damocles and Isaac's Birthright giving shop/devil items for free
- Fixed Perfection dropping more than once in the same run
- Fixed the character selection menu not displaying the Holy Mantle among the Lost's starting items
- Fixed Moles and Wormwood rarely being able to spawn pits which could trap the player
- Fixed Red Key breaking after a save/continue
- Fixed flame orbitals taking damage from frozen enemies
- Fixed the Witness not transitioning into her second phase in certain cases
- Fixed a bug which caused the price of some deal with the devil items to randomly change upon taking another deal with the devil
- Fixed screen shaking causing minor visual artifacts in Downpour and Mines
- Fixed Lil' Dumpy being able to extinguish fires in a certain room
- Fixed a broken interaction between Breath of Life and Schoolbag
- Fixed R Key not re-seeding some already visited floors


- Reduced regeneration rate of white flames generated by Book of Virtue
- Battery overcharge is now stored per item (meaning that swapping active items on a pedestal now swaps overcharge correctly)
- Rock spikes from Stone Bombs can no longer hurt Isaac
- Redesigned some of Hornfel's room layouts
- Perfection is no longer lost when donating blood or taking fake damage from Voodoo Pin and battery machines
- Using the Book of Virtues now also heals some of the active flame orbitals
- Alabaster Box charges can now be used to open the Mausoleum door


- The Urn of Souls has appeared in the basement (for real this time!)
- Added new tracks for the Catacombs and Necropolis
- Added chance for a Planetarium to spawn to the stat HUD
- Stat HUD now displays the stats of both players when in co-op mode
- Added the following parameters in options_remix.ini: EnableItemTracker, EnableWater, EnableWaterClipping, EnableWaterReflections

Is there a reliable way to get into the oubliette? I feel like most runs I don't get anything that can extinguish in first chamber

>>168523248
There's always 2 Water Barrels on the first level.
Have fun rolling them across the map.

>>168523248
>>168523569
Once you enter the Oubliette for the first time, there will always be a barrel in the fireplace room.

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>>168521502
Sweatn here

>>168523248
Or you can play robot and use their active

>>168519891
Weaponsmith is a smoker.

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>>168524019
>Get hit from the get-go on the last boss
At least I got her out of the way

>general literally died on 14th of the february
is this the normiest general on the entire board?

>>168526138
More like "Least European General"

>>168526138
if you mean the least shitposty, then yes
and we still have the "muh neo /v/ boogeyman" guy

>>168527108
w-what about me?

>>168527323
>w-what about me?
Are you in Europe/Asia?
Then you're our local Eurofag who should've kept the General alive while everyone was asleep.

>>168527432
when i woke up it was already dead
i could've made a new thread but i'm always worried i'll fuck up

>>168527495
Copy/Paste old Gen, replace Last thread link with link to real last thread, add a picture, and Edition is optional.

Is it worth doing the Old King again after unlocking his shit the first time?

whats a good weapon that goes well with beams in ftl?im trying to beat the game with zoltan ship and while halberd beam is cool,it does literally nothing later on.Im seeing some success with ion bomb,are there any other shield distruption strategies i can find?

>>168529087
anything works, but the best are burst laser II and the flak cannon I

Is there literally nothing to do in Roguelands? Literally it feels like make a character, craft a weapon, grind monsters until a random event swarms you with enemies and you run to the exit to get another level with the same layout.

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>Halo and Martyr don't blend/combine into one visual
When I finally unlock all cheevos, one of the first things I'm looking for is an improved item visuals mod.

>Keeper with Unicorn Stump + Swallowed Penny
>At least one chance per room to go invincible and pick up any coins
>Usually able to heal immediately after damage

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>>168530326
Speaking of, post your % lads.

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>>168530828
I'm >>168530728, so I should at least get KeeperMom cheevo unless I fuck up

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>>168530828

Why is convict's alt costume so shitty?

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>find casey and give it a proper try
>that outright illegal damage
>buy mimic tooth necklace because all chests were shit
>this happens

>Ultra Kraken Cannon
>On Sheep
I am unstoppable.

>>168525464
Weaponsmith is a metalhead

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Playing Gungeon, should I take Singularity or Aged Bell?

>>168536928
Singularity
Apparently aged bell is busted and sometimes won't freeze bullets

>>168536928
Singularity for shenanigans. Aged Bell to steal shit fro mthe shop.

>>168537057

Thanks for the heads up!

>>168534308
>use lightning kraken cannon on the purple dragon
>game crashes
spicy

>Manage to get the first 4 master rounds, including against high priest
>Get hit by some random shit that I had no business not avoiding on the dragun
This is like the third or fourth time in a row this has happened, I will never get lead god.

>>168539842
just git clone

>>168528659
If you don't think you'll die to him, I think it's worth it. You get another shop, more money, two locked chests, plus the secret room chest which is 1-2 free items, and the boss drop. The damage you take is rough, but you can probably heal it back up by the time you reach the third floor boss.

>finally killed the Robot's past
Thank god for that. Going for a whole run taking almost no damage or getting lucky with armour drops was tough as nails.

>>168540312
Did you complete challenge mode yet?

>>168540175
I never really understood the criteria behind the secret room locations
How do they work exactly?

Name a better pairing than Proptosis + Polyphemus.

The Hunter's little cute dog doesn't dig up jack shit anymore. Why did they nerf her so hard?

>>168541386
ludobrim

if i'm new to gungeon should i even be bothering with the 2 key trap door level?

>>168541386
Ipecac and pyromaniac

>>168542178
Yes, the boss is probably the easiest boss in the game.

>>168541835
Was it nerfed? I don't see anything in any change logs.

>>168542178
i haven't seen the dog dig anything up either.

>>168542332
i've never been to that floor's boss before because i never have good weapons because no chests opened

does clone bay work on missions like "giant spiders"?

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Silly Casey, you're not master round.

>>168543782
I don't play gungeon but that bottom right looks heavily pimped out.

>>168543782
Shitter who hasn't cleared chamber three yet, how do you have double of every master bullet?

>>168544004
not him but im assuming its the "clone" item

>>168544004
Clone.

>>168543932
No shit, it's the one from final boss.
>>168544004
See >>168540007

>>168539051
How queer, I literally Krakened entire screens with Crown of Apocalypse (like 300% more enemies and barely any Rads at all) and didn't crash.

>>168544618
so is Afterbirth+ less garbage now or what

>>168544723
No. No Booster Packs have been released.
The first one comes end of March.
And Antibirth update is nowhere to be seen.

>>168544846
I'm asking if Afterbirth+ is still hard as balls

Gungeon's soundtrack is pretty mediocre. Maybe I'm just spoiled by necrodancer

>>168544846
>And Antibirth update is nowhere to be seen.
Thursday(tm)

>>168544618
Is Antibirth worth playing over Afterbirth? How will my experience differ?

>>168544994
I turned it off a while ago.

>>168545079
>Less Synergies, like way less
>Less items added overall, way less Trinkets
>Overall much higher quality content
>Still some bugs that should've been addressed in a patch releasing "Thursday"
>Some unique synergies exclusive to Anti
>An array of interesting, not always fun, but always interesting bosses

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>Passives that activate on hit

>>168544994
There's too much noise to the songs during battles and there's never really any strong melodies.

Danny B did the music for Necrodancer so it makes sense that it's great. He shows us that someone can still make great music even if they love to prep the bull.

>It's the fourth chamber and you only have guns

>>168541283
Hell no. Challenge mode is bullshit by the standards of people who are actually good at Gungeon. A shitter like me has no chance.

>>168543425
Yes. If a crewman dies in a text quest the clone bay will revive them. Same with the burning space station.

>>168540312
>I actually died against his past
It was the angriest the game has made me so far, mostly at myself for dying to such an easy boss after all I'd survived. Thankfully, I got back to her a few days later and won. The normal characters make the game feel easy in comparison because getting hit is less of a penalty when you have health pickups.

Casey and Double Vision are way too good to be brown chest items too. Casey is like an even more broken Blasphemy, and Double Vision murders everything.

>>168544972
They've nerfed a few of the stupidly-made bosses (e.g. Vis Sisters are fairly easy now if you're not stupid), but there are still several rooms they clearly haven't thought through (e.g. the 'closet' room with tentacles right next to you that are able to spawn as HOSTILE TENTACLES THAT WILL HIT YOU ON ROOM LOAD), and I think Delirium's teleport pattern is still broken in terms of how fast/where he can go.

>>168545634
Danny ruined me for a lot of games' soundtracks, especially since we'll never hear what his tracks for late-game Isaac would have been ;_;

>>168548158
I'm sad they won't work together anymore but after looking at their social media accounts pretty extensively it's a surprise they worked together as long as they did. Edmund is an edgelord and DannyB is a far-left nutjob.

I can't imagine playing SMB without his soundtrack either.

>>168520189
>>168544846
>>168544995

Who said the update is coming Thursday? A thread title claimed it but I haven't seen news from the devs about it.

>>168548376
Honestly, I heard about it from here I think, so I dunno for sure.

Does gungeon have an inventory editor
I'm getting bored and wanna do some theme runs/see how much i can break the game

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>Azazel Daily
>Lusty Blood, Gimpy, Virgo, Dark Bum, Death's Touch just for damage
>Enter Boss Rush room with Curse of the Blind, pick up nearest item
>Super Fan

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>>168548376
They teased it over on the Discord.
Along with Pestilence and Conquest.

>>168551694
Oh, okay. I've seen the horsemen but must have missed them talking about the update on discord

>>168551694
That famine really wants it's dick sucked

>>168552605
Kek.
There's actually an interesting motif on the 4 main Horsemen in this shot.
>Each horse is dead
>Has exactly 3 teeth showing/implied in the case of Death

>>168552865
is that supposed to mean something?

>>168553238
Probably not, but it's an interesting detail that unifies them all.

>>168552605
Yeah, that's a pretty good
>IT AIN'T GONNA SUCK ITSELF
he's got going

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>Fortissimole 3
>Yetis
>Goblins
>Skeleton riders that move every beat and never stop spawning

I think I just found my new least favorite Boss/Floor combo as Aria.

Also, I hate not having a Luck Charm on me at all times. Damn those bats and their non predictable movements in a pattern-based rhythm game.

>clear every room in bullet hell
>can't find the secret room
I have one heart and almost no ammo, just let me unlock these ashes before I die.

>>168544994
oubliette is pretty nice, but yeah overall it's meh

>>168541386
Polyphemus + Knife, the damage is real

>>168556407
the second floor is the hardest after the 4th for aria, but you'll pull through. if you think aria and the monk are bad wait till you see the last character

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>>168515481
Anyone else having a hard time on gungeon challenge mode? the best I did was get to the dragun only to get hit twice in a row fast enough to instantly die. Yet I've seen other people do the harder challenge mode where they do both secret rooms and then go to bullet hell with no problems.

>>168558657
and here i am struggling to reach chamber 3

>>168558747
don't worry anon, it's just a game that you play enough times to beat stuff like that.

How is Sword of the Stars: The Pit ? Is it any good

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So....

What is your Keeper strategy to kill Delirium ?

Farm the swallowed penny and base a run on it ?

>>168560885
restart until you get greed's gullet

>>168558657
>Anyone else having a hard time on gungeon challenge mode?
very much

>>168544994
As someone who absolutely loves ETG, I will easily admit that its soundtrack is absolute shit. The majority of songs just sound like someone played 3 or 4 (OR MORE) melodies and beats all on top of each other at once with very little regard for how they meshed together.

The only two memorable and catchy tunes in the whole game are the opening/ending theme/rap, and the song that plays in Cadence's shop.

Almost every song in ETG's soundtrack just has way too much random bullshit going on that detracts from the overall flow, melody, and composition. Whoever made the soundtrack really needs to realize less is more, and that songs need a driving central melody or beat that can be focused on.

Like, how many ETG songs outside of the two I mentioned that can you hum? How many have a melody coherent and catchy enough to even be memorable 5 minutes after you're out of the game?

Definitely a weak point of the game.

Necrodancer is of course the best of all of them but I think some of the themes in NT are ok

>>168558657
Most of the time what dicks you in CM is are a few really bad rooms, or high stress.

With this in mind, it's really helpful to find an item that lets you get through those absolutely bullshit combos without getting dicked, and that protects you from High Stress shenanigans. For example, potion of lead skin, relodestone, basically any active item or weapon that grants temporary safety.

But also, it's often NOT worth exploring the entire level in CM. All the progress you might have made in accruing resources by exploring can be ruined by ONE bullshit room (e.g. zone control + poison pursuit with both zones in the center and a shambling round + shotgun kin standing right on top of both).

Also, play as the bullet, since he's DEFINITELY the safest gungeoneer for dealing with shenanigans thanks to melee immunity + blasphemy.

Roguelites are games with limited soundtracks but a lot of replayability. Outside of Necrodancer which is built around the soundtrack, they tend to have 1-2 tracks per area (and maybe one for a boss or other special room). This would be fine (hell, there are lots of other games and shows that reuse tracks all the time) but when there's only 10 or so floors and you're hearing the same tracks repeat every single time you play, for hundreds of runs, it gets old fast. I even turn off the music for games where I *like* the music (like Risk of Rain) because I'm just tired of it.

>>168561796
thanks for the tips anon, I was using the bullet anyways since the touch immunity is amazingly helpful. Though I heard that due to how the robot's health works that high stress gives him 5 seconds of immunity rather than 5 seconds to not get hit because of a bug or something, dunno how true it is.

>>168562147
Original isaac has some pretty solid tracks PS it's because Danny is good at music but I think just "slightly ok background noise" is the best they can be.

>>168562224
sometimes backround music is whats needed, the thing is with a lot of tracks is that they're good but you hear them over and over again so they get stale, meanwhile things that are backround music stuff thats overall forgettable like EtG fits because it might not be something amazing but it's just enough so you never get sick of it.

>>168562598
>sometimes backround music is whats needed
That was my point. Outside of shit like necrodancer the music should be decent background music.

I haven't played NT that much yet but I think it's kin of ok, and original Isaac certainly had a good thing going.

Then again I actually like listening to the original basement, caves, and library

>>168558415
>last character
>implying I'm capable of unlocking the last character

I don't think I can clear Zone 1 with Bolt without skipping the beat at least 10 times.

>>168563297
the final character is literally aria, the monk, and bolt all in one character. and yes if you miss a beat at double speed as them you die.

>>168544618
GOD TIER:
Wrath of the Lamb
GOOD TIER:
Original Isaac
Rebirth
OKAY TIER:
AntiBirth
Afterbirth
SHIT TIER:
Afterbirth+

>>168563297
It's Aria+Monk+Bolt.

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>>168558657
>Challenge mode is just grinding till you get lucky
>They are probably going to add a character that dies in one hit next

>>168564183
on the bright side, I believe they said that challenge mode will have positive effects in the future rather than just negatives.

>>168563452
>>168564021
I know.

I think the Bolt boosted Aria part of its character will kill me before the Monk part does.

>unlock by clearing Aria and Monk in the same run along with the other characters
>Aria and Monk

Screw that shit.

It's still a roulette spin, you can't call that a challenge
That would be like saying mario party is a strategy game

>>168564183
>>They are probably going to add a character that dies in one hit next
Honestly I think this is a pretty tired gimmick in games at this point.

The lost, aria, melting, none of them are really fun.

At least melting has an upside.

>>168564743
well, RNG can be pretty challenging, ever play darkest dungeon? But yeah I get you point, getting a room and a set of things effecting you that make it near immpossible randomly where some rooms aren't even different is pretty dumb, Though I do like it a lot better than the regular challenge stuff in games like these which is just "get hit and die faster and do less damage while having less good shit" type of thing.

>>168564831
At the very least, Lost has the upside of free devil deals. And he technically doesn't die in ONE hit.

>>168565545
He used to.

Aria technically dies in two hits, too, and melting can get higher health.

Ive killed the past with every main character, and I cant find red caped bullets for the life of me.
How the fuck are you supposed to find these little shits?

WHERE IS THE UPDATE KILBURN REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>168567660
just pay attention to make sure you don't kill one on accident. It's RNG but I think they made them more common since the update.

>>168560885

Combination of Swallowed Penny, Piggy Bank, Head of the Keeper, Stopwatch and Glass Cannon. At least, that's how I won it.

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Wish me luck

>>168569529
no

>>168551694
>Special versions of the Horsemen for the extra chapter
That actually looks pretty cool.
Conquest doesn't look like it belongs anywhere except maybe the Chest. We getting a new area?

>>168569854
Nigger

>>168570071
Not for a while. Headless Horseman is next up for portraits.

>>168570295
no u

>>168564352
it would be good if they do this

Best Afterbirth+ run? What are the odds of Steakmund screwing with us again?

>>168562147

I put on Spotify while I play Gungeon. Makes it a little more enjoyable since the music is rather repetitive.

Antibirth update never ever.

>>168575304
kilburn's too busy playing TF2 he'll give it to us in a bit if digits

>>168575617
i meant singles wtf

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You want some spice in your life /lite/?

>>168578108
That seems like an awfully generic name for something I've never heard of, but sure, I'll have it.

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>swallowed penny
>wooden nickel
>piggy bank
>nun's habit

predict how I fuck this one up

>>168522647
>- Fixed Lil' Dumpy being able to extinguish fires in a certain room
Holy fuck was it infuriating finding out it did that unlocking the knife pieces.

>>168545079
You're not paying for the bullshit that's AB+, so that's something.

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>Having a fucking great gungeon run, nothing completely broken, but my playing is on point
>Get 4 master rounds without even really focusing on that
>Immediately dodge into a bullet on the Dragun

>>168582658
You'll get wombo-comboed before you get to pick up any pennies.

>another job interview failed
>antibirth went full black mesa
Murder me.

>>168564831
Melting has the best active in the game and can get more health, while The Lost has flight, spectral tears and the holy mantle.
But yeah, Aria is retarded. She can't even pick up weapons.

>>168591632
Aria has less leeway for error too. You can get all the damage prevention items in the game, but at the end of the day you'll still have only one chance (three if you're extremely lucky) to screw up the beat before your automatic OHKO.

It's kind of like doing Onan's Streak with The Lost.

>>168593229
Actually, stacked up, you can have 7 chances with the Heavy Glass Armor, Frost Charm, Crown of Teleportation, Ring of Shielding and the Potion.

>>168593782
Nothing but a Potion can save you from skipping a Missed Beat, and the only way you're getting more is by finding one in a secret room or through the Scroll of Need.

how can a fucking bugfix patch be late by 15 days
like holy shit

>>168515481
>How is Sword of the Stars: The Pit ? Is it any good
Respond pls

>>168595547
Because they're adding content too I think. It'll probably be done soon.

>battery machines and Voodoo Pin killing the player if they have rotten hearts or ended up with no health from taking a deal with the devil
>Blood Oath dealing more damage than intended when the player has rotten hearts
Lol i thought they were not bugs

what are you supposed to do againts drones with mantis A at early levels?

>electric dagger on deep blues, fortissimole and king conga
nothing's more satisfying than clearing the whole screen with 1 hit

>>168600941
you got a bomb and a basic laser, make some use of it
also with level 2 teleport you can teleport guys in and teleport them back before they die

>>168596464
Sword of the Stars: The Pit is an alright roguelike set in the future. Not great, but it's fun.

>>168522516
Where you getting this since its not yet for download

Trying to get level 10 Junken worth it?

>>168606294
Absolutely worth it.

>>168606548
At what point should I stop stocking up on Junk if he hasn't shown up?

>>168607095
I don't think I'd go out of my way to look for him, but if I found him I'd collect junk.

>>168607095
End of Mines.

>Use teleporter prototype in gungeon
>teleports me to an empty room with a giant eyeball in it
>can't do anything, or even access half the room
>can't go back to the previous rooms, just stuck in eyeball room

Anyone else get this? I think it's a thing they plan to add but isn't supposed to be there now

>>168608638
Pics.

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>>168608754
I didn't screenshot it, this is someone else who got there. Can't find any information on it other than it unlocks the yellow chamber if you get there before you kill 10 confirmed.

>>168608638
There is an unlock with this. Try looking it up on the wiki.

>>168608932
Yeah I know, but it ended my run and it's glitched so that you can't go into half the room and you cannot get back to the regular game. Among other glitchy things. I just don't know if i'm missing something or they put this here on accident.

>>168609113
Can't you just pull up the map and teleport back to the other rooms?

>>168608903
Did you try running around it to make it dizzy?

Thoughts on this? >>>/qst/1155428

>>168609363
not roguelite related

>>168609225
I tried, the map is just a blank void, couldn't get back

>>168609285
Also tried that, it doesn't look like it but that room is glitched, the top half is blocked off by an invisible wall.

>>168609113
I swear the coding gets shittier with each update

>>168607095
I usually wait until the end of each floor, use the keys that I have on the better chests, if there are any left over, destroy them. If I get him, I get him, if I don't then whatever. Don't go out of your way to try to get him if you've already unlocked him in regular chests, getting him from junk after unlocking him is only like a 5% chance.

so far the only 'complaint' i have with NT is that even though it tracks and treats golden weapons as a thing to unlock it only ever allows you to have one 'unlocked' per character

like i can understand not having them all usable, that'd probably be a bit overpowered for how relatively easy they are to acquire, but I'd like a tally of the ones I've picked up like an isaac note card or something for each character

>>168610934
try nuclear throne ultra, it makes it work like that
be careful to not have too much fun though, or your savefile might get erased

>>168607095
Never. I just had a run with blowing up every chest I found and still got OP shit from shops and bosses.

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Why am I fighting one of the Bullet's bosses in a non-boss room?

>>168612862
random miniboss defeating it 5 times unlocks an item that ups your damage for however many curse points you have

>>168612981
Isn't that the sixth chamber?

>>168613293
that increases your coolness

>>168613293

Sixth Chamber is 2 Coolness per 1 curse, Curse bullets are 10% damage per point of curse.

>>168613293
sixth chamber increases coolness and not damage, I also think it bypasses the part of curse that makes item drops besides ammo less common but i'm not sure.

>>168525612
Damn the convict its pretty hot.

>>168614090
when she doesn't spend time in jail and have her face all cute up then yeah.

>>168614090
If you're underage, sure.

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What flavour of murder am I feeding Hush this time?
I'm already very powerful, including at least one ability that I'm not sure why I'm getting or which item gave it to me (>tfw).

>>168615212
Tech X

>>168615773
Thank god, I thought I was going to have to make a decision for myself

This general is very unusual in how much posting is happening at any one time, very sporadic even compared to slower threads

Best way to unlock Bullet? Restarting floor 1 over and over?

>>168616348
just play to unlock other stuff while being careful not to kill anything bullets unless you know they aren't caped. You could just restart but you might as well play anyways. Anything you haven't unlocked already like the robot or the shortcuts, you should do those instead.

>>168615909
I rarely ever strong runs like that so of course I'm going to suggest something fun when given the chance. Antibirth hasn't been too kind and I'm getting sick of getting no damage ups until caves 2.

>>168615909
most people here are playing and doing runs, it's kinda just whenever they aren't playing or if anons just happen to not be doing a run at the same time.

Can the water gun crack secret room walls?

>>168615212

Tech X is always worth it. I think being able to actually use the Restart key has spoiled me.

>have practically no patience when it comes to Greedier mode as ???
>restart if I get no damage up or a key for free

Just a few more characters and I can play the game normally!

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>tfw

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Oh fuck. I wanted to kill the past again, but I guess now it's not the time..

>>168617812
>It's not Frifle
So Challenger?

>>168617618
yes, anything with infinite ammo or, strangely, any item that can make blank shots, will reveal secret walls.
>>168617812
thats exactly what I have currently, even having the chandelier as the second to last one unlocked
>>168618000
does dropping the dueling laser still reset it so you can instantly shoot it again?

>>168618060

Yep.

>>168618000
>2 armor
>Potion of Lead skin
>"how did he get so beat u-"
>bloody scarf

Do you guys ever just give up on a lich run and kill the past instead? I feel like it's a pussy move, but at the same time if I've got two hearts left there's no way I'll make it and it's not like you get anything for winning.

>>168618251
they should just make that item a dodge roll unless you hold it, fucks you up more then helps you at times

>>168618359
if I'm having a meh run I just end it, not to pussy out but because I beat it enough times that if I go to bullet hell it's for fun rather then just being a chore.
>>168618124
*will not reveal secret walls, but everything else will
sorry, my mistake anon

>>168618359
I honestly just went for the litch once, when I had an absolutely busted run and no chance of losing. Before that I died like 50 times, and now I'm too scared to face him again.

>>168618773
I lost on bullet hell I don't know how many times before I finally beat them, honestly like the rest of the game it's just playing it over and over enough till you know how to beat them. that one move in the second phase that calls lines of bullets from both sides is pretty bullshit though

>rhino skin, bloodlust, long arms, rabbit paw, impact wrists, scarier face
>Crown of haste
>Have the fucking lightning hammer AND nuke launcher
>Guy in 5-2 throws a car that misses me but the explosion somehow hits me even though it shouldn't and I lose all 14 life and die
great game

>>168619337
nuke launcher without boilies would've killed you anyway and crown of haste is shit anyway

>>168618359

Sometimes I do, but generally, that's only if I feel like moving onto another run completely or I just wanna stop playing. My philosophy is that even if I can't get through bullet hell or it's unlikely, it's not like there's any reason not to go there, after all, a past kill doesn't really give you anything except for maybe one less recorded death. Maybe once they add in some kind of streak tracker like in isaac, I might care. right now I usually just do it to practice, even if it means I'll die.

>>168619452
It seemed like the best crown out of the pre-loop onse.

Also I was doing find without boiling with it, it was great.

At least I got golden wrench as crysal so the game's probably more fun than it'd otherwise be.

>>168619337
Same thing happened to me.
I'm about to give up, haven't even been able to reach the palace after more than 100 attempts. The only reason I haven't already is I at least made it to the throne once, I just didn't know how loops worked so I just ended the game right there.

>>168619795
I got to the throne with a pretty good build but I was doing melee so the only weapons I had were the shovel and the arc lightning gun. The chest in the throne was an SMG.

I ended up behind the throne and died to contact.

>>168619964
funnily enough I was in about the same scenario there too, got there with a shovel and heavy crossbow. But I was playing as plant, so I just snared it and spammed the crossbow until the thing was dead. It still left me at about 2 health, but at least it didn't summon guardians, hell, I only learnt about them through the throne's wiki.

>Tfw fucking around in Gungeon
>Have a VERY OP setup
>Dick around too much and lose HP like a mother fucker
>Think nothing of it because gonna shoot buh past again
>Giant hand grabs me and makes me shit my pants
I think I would have beaten it too if I wasnt playing like a nigger.

>>168541386
Libra+Soy Milk

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So then, /lite/, how did you finally beat challenge mode?

I won as The Pilot with the Rad Gun.

>buy the elder blank and casey from cursula
>get the blood broch from the challenge guy
>that spawned lord of the jammer
wot
can someone do the math for me

>>168625104
Elder Blank (2) + Casey (2) + Cursula*2 (5) + Blood Brooch (1) = 10

It adds up. I'm so sorry.

>>168625446
Cursula gives you 2.5 Curse per item bought?

>>168625446
It's okay, I dropped the elder blank and he disappeared next floor.

why do people here keep saying casey is good, the thing is awful, it's impossible to use in decently sized rooms and takes way too long to wind up.

>>168626412
Cause it's fucking amazing.

>>168626412
>massive damage
>hits enemies back into enemies for massive damage
>reflects bullets for massive damage
>surprisingly long range

>>168625684
Yup. You're better off stealing from her.

>>168626412
It hits as hard as 25 regular bullets would, while being faster to fire than 25 bullets. Infinite "ammo", can reflect bullets, and it's found for cheap at stores.

>>168624781
I haven't, not yet anyways.
How do you keep the rad gun from losing damage without fucking up the reload constantly?

>>168626412
you just gotta change up the play style a bit. It knocks back projectiles, does as much damage as the golden gun, and does about the same when knocking enemies into other enemies.

>>168626772
I always get it up to five before entering a room, then I use the 12 shots I have wisely. IF I have a chance to safely reload, then I take it, and if not, then I switch to something else. Usually, though, at Level 5 you're going to beat most rooms pretty easily. It's just shoot, reload, shoot, reload, shoot, reload, shoot, reload, and then you go nuts.

Also, I had the Metronome, so I didn't switch guns all that often in my winning run.

>>168627085
Oh okay, I usually try to just get as many as I can. Also the fact that if you change guns and let it reload by itself the damage drops by a ton, so I'm always afriad of switching.

>>168627210
Given how good the Rad Gun is, you're better off letting it drop, then building it up again quickly.

>>168626935
also with flak bullets it shoots long range high damage projectiles. Not to mention you get it for cheap or from chests that normally gize garbage.

And on top of all of that I hear theres a glitch where if you knock the chancellor into either the bullet king or the old king it insta-kills them both.

>Doug only has a chance to spawn in the Breach
Literally why.

>>168627768
no clue, but the farther you go into the gungeon the higher chance he has of appearing.

>>168627839
If you can get further than the Third Floor, you can almost always find him.

Also, to prevent insta-losing runs to unlock more stuff, I think.

>>168627839
>Spend a run a day trying to unlock him and finally do it
>You also gotta do good to get him to spawn AND be able to buy all his shit every time until Casey spawns if you want easy mode to have a chance to spawn ::::^^^)^)^)^))
Fuck it. I'm done for the day. Way too much RNG for me.

>>168628010
if memory serves, casey is one of the first things you can buy from them.

Is there a quicker way to farm hegemony credits than just beating the first floor boss over and over again? I want to do challenge mod but I keep running out of cash

>doing the daily
>5th win in a row
>alt tab because messaged
>talk to guy for a few seconds
>tab back in
>black screen
>game sound still on, but nothing, just black screen
>fullscreening doesnt work
>ok, maybe i can close the game and continue back up
>You cant pause and continue dailies.

I was on the depths.

MotherFUCKING GOD DAMN IT PIECE OF SHIT FUCK EDMUND FUCK YOU AND YOUR GOD DAMN STAKE PIECE OF RAT BASTARD.

>>168628081
>It's not randomized
If true, that's very reassuring.
I've always been terrible at this game, I want to like it, but I'm just tired of never getting past Mines unless the run is very good, then always dying in the next area. I've only been to Forge once, Dragun never.

What's the point of beastmode?

>>168628367
playing a run over and over is faster, first boss gives 1-2 while later bosses do the same. Also if you're good enough as long as you beat the 4th boss in challenge mode you will always have enough credits to retry.
>>168628458
just keep playing, also once doug appears he stays till you buy all his shit that he currently has, and like that other anon said getting past the mines is almost guarnteed doug.
>>168628647
it's a joke, it does nothing to gameplay. Beating the dragun with it on unlocks a bait launcher that summons tigers to maul enemies.

>>168628782
*later bosses give the same or more

God I fucking hate the things in area 5 that slid at you

holy shit,is Basilisk the best ship in this game or what?

>>168628458
>Very next run due to optimism
>Already in Forge thanks to Ser Junkan and Proton backpack carrying me through every boss after floor 1

>>168631830
Yes.

>>168631923
>Die to random shit in Forge
>"Good, now I can buy that shit from Doug"
>Check Breach proper, Elevator, and even main Shop
>Nowhere to be seen
>"past the mines is almost guaranteed doug"
I am fucking mad.

>>168632686
Doug always shows up on the breach, if I'm not mistaken. Sucks.

>>168630126
Cubes can only move in a straight line. If they'd have to move diagonally to get you then they can't do shit. It limits your movements but at the worst case you can still get out of the way faster than they move.

>>168632686
did you unlock him?

>>168632891
Yes. I opened his cell and freed the fuck. Talked to him twice to make sure.
Subsequent run later.. get to Forge, die, go to Breach and he's nowhere to be found.
>Inb4 "99% chance of him spawning if you get to Forge."

>>168631830
Crystal B is still the best ship.
>four man teleport
>three Crystalmen from the start
>all with their own seperate lockdown counters
>all with high health
>all with resistance to suffocation so drone weapon rooms can get fucked
>the ship itself comes with built in stealth
It's instant win: the ship. You normally end up with so many spare crew members from your boarding raids that some guys end up with nothing to do.

Stumbling into the quest for it and somehow surviving long enough to unlock it was my luckiest run in the game.

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>>168632878
I mean these things.

99% of my damage in the zone comes from these.

>>168633418
Eh, Crystal B's layout is super clunky (not as much as Crystal A's though) and crystals aren't that good at boarding without mantis supporting their lockdowns.

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>Keeper, had him a day
>Haven't unlocked any marks yet
>Get this for Boss Rush
Here we go

>>168636241
Wait, I just realised something isn't on there that's important:
Dr. Fetus

>>168636310
>>168636241
Okay I've just spent a minute or so learning that Holy Mantle does still activate Stopwatch, meaning that was really easy and underwhelming.

Two unrelated mechanics I've just learnt

>Psychic tears + bomb tears just gives you homing bombs, thus applying it to the ones you shoot AND ones you drop normally
>With Camo Pants, fast champion enemies move at normal speed until they're alerted

where's the update, kilburn

hand it over

should i just skip drones with boarding ships?

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>The Chest with Keeper
>Dr Fetus, Bent Spoon, Blast Damage, Holy Mantle
>Miniboss drops Pyromaniac

>>168639117
unless you're mantis B or crystal B, no

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>>168638183

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wat do i do here?

>>168641942
jump away

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Is there a gungeon bug I'm not aware of? I've done 9 full hour long runs to the 6th chamber looking for the 5th caped bullet kin and haven't found it. I've done the 5 other pasts too.

>>168643000

No, it just takes time. Keep being diligent and doing runs, you will find the last one eventually.

>>168643000
>I've done the 5 other pasts too.
Jesus christ anon
Maybe it's time to play something less RNG based

Is there an editor for gungeon like there is for isaac to pick what items to start with? I just wanna try some combinations I've never been lucky enough to have

>Finally get to kill Robot's past
>Roll to speed shit up
>Roll and see a puddle
>Hand grabs me and pulls me into Bullet Hell
Why does Bullet Hell have to be there?

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>>168644007
>tfw keep playing smaller/2D games because I'm putting off replacing parts of my PC because it requires reformatting so I'll need another harddrive to store shit
>88% achievements in BoI as of now and getting closer
I'm going to just make myself order a SDD now

>>168524019
Just get clone and die intentionally to the Dragun :^)

antibirth update when?

>>168647041
Soon™

>play mantis b for the first time
>fun as fuck
>make it to flag ship,made loadsa scrap,pretty much maxxed out
>get through phase 1 without any hull damage
>get absolutely shit on on phase 2 due to all the drones and not being able to hack
what did i do wrong?

Spice on Robot a good or a bad?

>>168648652
Take two max and you're good.

>>168648652
depends on what you wanna do. you may not lose heart containers but it increases curse, at some point will make your shots less accurate, and replaces more and more items with spice. It can be worth it if you have good damage items but the decrease in accuracy can fuck you.

>go through hell getting Robot's past
>try going to Bullet Hell with Bullet next run
>get to the Lich and utterly destroy him first time

I'm guessing loadout means a lot for this fight? Because even without knowing the patterns his health got shredded faster than he could damage me.

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How big is my dick right now?

>>168650423
Depends how many Gunknight parts you got.

is there any way to edit a character's items in isaac and still have achievements enabled?

i'm sick of keeper

i don't want to do it legit

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>>168650423
>>168650550
Turns out fucking minuscule, almost died to the dragun
Still unlocked the junk boy tho

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>>168651560
And then the grappling hook gets me gangbanged by slimes

>try to dodgeroll but slightly too far to the side and get caught on the lip of a corner/table
FUCK

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HOW DO I GET THROUGH THIS ROOM WITHOUT GETTING HIT

IT'S THE FUCKS WITH THE STRETCHY NECKS SO YOU CAN'T RUN PAST

>>168653391
>SO YOU CAN'T RUN PAST
Bait the neck, then move past.

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>>168608903
Looks familiar somehow.

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Fun synergy

>>168659698
whats the synergy? I thought raiden coil always homes in on all enemies.

>>168660514
Oh didnt know that. I had angry bullets.

>>168660760
yeah, I don't think laser work with angry bullets, at least not the way intented, from the looks of that imkage theres something flying out of them.

>>168655693
Is that from devil daggers?

>>168653391
whatever you do, don't use the dwhatever that rerolls enemies
each of the neck segments counts as one

>>168662001
I don't think anyone uses that item, it has a good chance to reroll enemies into ones from much higher floors and if you are at the hardest of floors to avoid that problem by then a good majority of rooms are bosses

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Now what?

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Chicken? More like thiccken

>>168662351
challenge mode

>>168662351
Get all the Achievements.
And then move on to a new game.

>the bats in King Conga's boss room are there to have a dig buffer in case you screw up the conga line
>bats
>not bounce traps

I hate it

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>>168662383
I didn't realize people were still making Chicken Lewds. I need more.

>>168662479
>>168662481
I still need Bullet and the Dice guy

>>168663413
well, you should get bullet, and diasuke isn't hard to unlock, just the next couple of runs you get make sure to save keys till the end of the floor in case his cell room is locked. The bullet is the best character for challenge mode, especially if you stay at full red HP.

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>>168663337

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>>168662383
>>168663776
Wew Laddies

>Get to throne with nuke launcher
>Win easily
>Didn't know I had to kill the things to loop
well, at least i unlocked rogue

>>168634134
Scarier Guts combo makes them kill themselves when they charge you. Also you can easily dodge them once you get the pattern down.
They're not the worst though. I remember fucking hating the robot dogs that roll to you and do a triple shot from across the fucking map, even on those narrow hallways, fuck.

>>168648559
Leave every crew member dead except Laser Gunner. When you kill the whole flagship crew, Ghosts/AI takes over as invisible unkillable crew.
I find the worst part of Flagship fight is Missiles. Once you take those and Ions out every stage, Lasers become easy mode to dodge with Cloak, and with tier 3 shields Beams do nothing.
Cloaking during Drone Swarm helps, but better to have something like tier 2 Cloaking for quicker recharge, because I find tier 1 Cloaking charges long enough that a second Drone Swarm right after hits you a few times before Cloaking gets back online.

>>168663662
The bullet is the best character in general.

>>168668992
well yeah, but specifically here.

>can't beat first floor in gungeon
wtf do i do senpai

>>168672163
how recently did you get the game?

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/poeg/ is being overly autistic so I'm gonna chill here.
Nuclear Throne is fun.

>>168672240
I got it on release but I never really played it.

>>168672337
well just keep at it and remember to dodge roll. also another tip if a key randomly spawns don't pick it up till you find the shop so the shop will have a guarenteed key. another tip is to never leave anything in rooms that isn't HP or keys or else a rat will take it. also try to master dodge roll.

>>168672163
On the first floor, almost no enemies will lead their shots. I think the only ones that do are the little yellow wizards. Occasionally you might run into the bulletkin with eyepatches-- they do lead their shots, but I don't think they show up on the first floor until you've beaten a couple more floors. So, basically... just circle strafe 90% of the time. For bosses:
>Trigger twins
Literally just circle strafe and keep your distance. Whichever one you don't kill will heal to half when you kill the other one, so there's no point in getting one of them to less than half then killing the other.

>Bullet king
Keep your distance. Most stuff can very easily be dodged just by walking (or rolling if you need to), the only thing you really need to worry about is if he throws out that giant ball and another attack at the same time.

>Gatling gull
If you got a stage with cover, literally just hide behind it until he stops attacking, take a couple shots, then hide again. If you die to him, you should probably rethink your life. If you got a stage with no cover, git gud.

>>168672163
>>168672337
I was that bad once.
It's just a matter of learning.
Shit gets easier once you can consistently reach floor 2, damaged or not.
Cause Floor 2 lets you unlock NPCs that can supply you with items/extra loot on runs/etc.

>>168672740
>>168672790
Thanks. Is there hidden shit similar to tinted rocks or secret rooms I need to look out for?

>>168672873
There are secret rooms but they don't always spawn, and generally aren't worth the time spent looking for them. There is a secret level on the first floor though-- in the room with a fireplace there will also be a water barrel, and if you push it into the fireplace you'll put out the fire. If you walk into the now empty firepit and press the interact button, you'll open up a secret room to a hidden level. It takes two keys to open up but I generally think it's worthwhile-- the boss is pretty easy and it's more loot.

>>168672873
Well, sort of.
The game gives you no hint as to where Secret Rooms are on a floor.
Most of them are also total fucking garbage.
The only other important secret is the Oubliette, which you can access by putting out the fire in the fireplace in one of the rooms, it's big and notable, going into the fireplace, flipping a button, and then using 2 Keys on the Locks in there to go down to a special floor.
Said special floor is also home to a 2nd secret that is used on the main 2nd floor.
You'll have to do it eventually for 100%, but it's pretty grueling except for the Oubliette boss, who is a pushover.

>>168672873
yes but they're different, any non-ininifte ammo weapon shot against a wall will make a crack if theres a secret entrance, using a blank will open it to the secret room. These are much harder to find and do not have a specific rule to where they are so don't go looking for them. they are usally in treasure rooms, shops, or the area that leads to the next floor but can be anywhere except boss rooms. also go to the tutorital level again and in one of the rooms is a cracked wall, blank it to get 2 items in the room and then beat the tutorial. this will unlock a boss fight later on.

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>tfw you will never find Greed's Gullet

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>get the old armor
>the shrine is on the other side of the map

>don't get the old armor
>shrine is right by the entrance to the level

fuck you

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>Have Gunther
>Have 8 full heart containers going into bullet hell
>Game crashes and closes
I think I have an ulcer.

>>168675529

I think you can collect items from seeded runs and it will count towards completion.

Also, Parasitoid is OP as fuck, especially with Monstro's Lung.

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>tfw killed Mega Satan for the first time just now

I used Gnawed Leaf + BFF took me an hour

>>168673079
>in the room with a fireplace there will also be a water barrel
How long has that been the case? I'm playing a pre-supply drop version and there's no barrel that I see

>>168681357

Have you been to the Oubliette before? If so, there will always be a water barrel on the first floor. If not, then you'll have to find a way to extinguish the fire.

>>168681465
Entered it once or twice, died in one of the first few rooms.

>>168681519

I think you have to unlock it and then beat in in order for the barrels to spawn, but don't hold me to that.

>>168681465
I thought it was just a quality of life thing.

Like the dev realized that kicking a barrel through rooms every single playthrough was fucking garbage.

>>168672261
but we don't want you either

>>168681552
That might be it, then

>>168675529
>100%
>one achievement remaining
What.

is there ever a reason to go to the jungle after you get chicken

>>168682056
338/339 is 99.7%, Steam probably just rounds up for percentages.

>>168682069
using last wish as patience

>>168678634
Happens to me every now and then. Normally you can continue when you reopen the game and you'll start at the beginning of the floor the game crashed on. It saved my ass on my first lich victory.

>>168682108
at the cost of 4 life

>>168668992

I disagree. Challenge mode is better suited for any character whose range isn't completely gutted when they get hit. Most of it is still luck, but even then, the bullet can get easily dicked if you're not careful.

>only have the blessed run and challenge mode to go
This is going to suck, isn't it?

At least I managed to kill the lich. I actually managed it in my first attempt, something I haven't done since a couple of the pasts. Maybe my luck can change. Crown of guns + cursed bullets + igniting bullets tore through him.

When is the best time to use the cigarettes? as soon as you get a drop or at the end of the level? is it worth to sacrifice armor to use it?

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M-MASAKA

why the fuck doesn't convict start with cigs
it would work great with her passive, she even smokes in the breach
but no, you get a shitty molotov, a shitty gun and a gimmicky passive

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>ring of triggers + compass + BFG
oooooooohhh
i like this

>>168686172
The ring of triggers actually works with the BSG?
Holy shit.

>>168609545
Gungeon crashes far too often, sometimes freezing my computer entirely in the process.
I love the game, but its so unstable. At least the recent update lets you continue from the start of the floor it crashed on, but its still annoying.

>>168684258
Is greed's gullet really that rare?

Steakmund should have made it the unlock for UltraHard and give it to the keeper automatically.