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11 days 21 hours

>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu (embed)
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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>no players can only have 4 stash tabs unless they won some in races
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>>168830845
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>>168779090
>free
>>168779106
>free
>>168782024
>free
>>168783246
>free
>>168783427
>free
>>168783504
>free
>>168819865
>free
>>168821991
>free
>>168822091
>FREE
>>168822204
>free
>>168823235
>free
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do fire golems get the chaos damage from infernal mantle?
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tooku no sora mawaru hana no enjin no kamabisusisa ni
ano hi ya nao hi ni koetekita bunki ga me wo samasu
kagerou ni mi wo karite michi wo sasu musume wo oi
takadai ni arawareta na mo shiranu hirono ha natsukashiku
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>players are cursed with lvl 15 latency
what's it like not having constant 15ms? i wouldn't know
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my crowning achievement
my atlas of shitposts
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>>168831041
>wanna kill yourself?
>just have a glass of water and sleep well!
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have you unlocked all of the unique shitposts?
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I can already taste those sweet stronk relics
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>>168831065
>FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Should I pick the depressed anime girl Keystone or the frogpost one? I was thinking catpost would do well with my build but idk desu
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>>168831291
great journeys start with the smallest steps
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What's your favorite character in terms of personality?

I really like the Ranger,even though she's a dyke-bitch.
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who is the true shitposter?
the one who denies (You)s or the one who freely gives them?
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shadow is the most affable even though he is the living embodiment of nothing personal
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>>168831668
Siosa is GOAT
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Scion because she's the most relatable, the others are too one-dimensionally ego-driven (Witch, Duelist, Templar, Shadow) or simple-minded (Marauder, Ranger)
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Poeg, can I say something?

Those um posts, those posts…the ones I baited and shitposted in, I want you to know I’d do it again. This general a circus, alright, it’s a charade, it’s an act, its bullshit how many of my posts get deleted. I’m not trolling, I’m not trolling, ok? I know what I did, I know who I am, and I do not need your warnings. I’m not trolling. I’m smack dab in the middle of my right goddamn mind, and any poster, any janitor, or any mod piece of shit that deletes my posts for shitposting, I did it because I liked it, HELL I LOVED IT! I’m just itching, I’m- I’m-I’m itching to do it again and you think you can ban me? You think some mod can stop me from doing what I wanna do? WELL THAT AIN’T HAPPENING, NOT ON MY WATCH. You posters call me a redditor because I believe It's only fair and polite to reply properly and give me a (You)? Is that right? The big bad redditor. HERE I AM! YOU WANT IT? I AM THE REDDITOR. I’M RIGHT HERE. IF YOU WANT IT I’LL GIVE IT TO YOU. ANY MOD THAT CAME HERE TO HEAR ME WHINE, TO HEAR ME BEG, WELL YOU CAN KISS MY ASS. YOU HEAR ME? I’M GUILTY, MY PLEAD MOD, I’M GUILTY! YOU HEAR ME? I’M GUILTY! I’LL SHIT POST IN EVERY GENERAL, I’LL SHIT POST IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM
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>>168831668
Witch or Shadow,i just like sarcastic characters.
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>>168832301
from where did this past come ?
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New to this game and I want to go with a standard 2hand Warrior type character, like Marauder, but as a female instead. Can I just make a Ranger and use the appropriate build/weapons instead? If so, is it practical or am I gimping myself?
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From chaos, order
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>>168832630
You can.

marauder is if anything, one of the least effective "pure melee" classes
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I only play female characters, especially witch, because I like to self-insert.
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>>168832821
>Marauder is if anything, one of the least effective "pure melee" classes

Interesting to read, can you go into a bit more detail about this?
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self insert this

*unzips groin*
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I only play Witch because she is my waifu, and it's a MAN's duty to control his woman.
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>>168832630
The ranger area of the tree is more suited for 1h nimble dex weapons like rapiers

You want to play a 2h sword female warrior, you need to play Scion
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>>168832916

marauder can do spells caster/totem builds pretty well, melee totem, bow builds (including bow totems) fine too.

But going pure melee its comparatively worse than duelist or ranger, unless you are building some very specific shit as poison bserker
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>>168832821

>marauder
>one of the least effective "pure melee" classes

Way to fuck up GGG.
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>>168833108
in no way is scion better than ranger raider or pathfinder as 2h meleefag
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>>168832841
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>>168833326
Scion is straight up better until you take ascendancies into account but that's not relevant for a beginner
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The only thing Scion is good for is hierophant + gladiator totem builds.
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>>168833518

>until you take ascendancies

you can start this at level 33 or so. no reason to build as if ascendancies didnt exist
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>>168833632
I thought the only good thing about Scion is her futa porn.
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>>168832589
its a /tv/ pasta
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>>168832821
>>168833108
>>168833326
>>168833518
I see I'd need to unlock Scion, so I'd rather just use Ranger as my pure melee. As a starting player, is there any 2h build you'd recommend me taking? I'll likely re-roll another character, but I'd like to experience the core game first and hit max level. I'm not really trying to do anything crazy, just enjoy what PoE has to offer starting off and then have a max level character to fund any later characters I wish to make.
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>they still make people unlock scion
I honestly forgot that was a thing.
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Irrelevant for a beginner.

Why people with experience of end game try to apply their logic and knowledge to someone so new they can't even pick up their first class is beyond me. A complete beginner needs to stick to the basics, e.g. if you want to play a spellcaster, pick the Witch, if you want to play a big dude who smash heads with big maces, pick Marauder, if you want to play a ranged hunter, pick Ranger.

Going for an esoteric build requires either knowledge or currency, two things a beginner doesn't possess. For the purpose of building a "2h warrior" which is also female, Scion is the most natural choice, with early access to melee damage, attack speed and either the Duelist or Marauder areas for tankiness.

There is nothing useful in the Ranger area past Finesse for 2h weapons so it implies going straight to the Duelist area and wasting a lot of travelling points, thus gimping yourself which is only magnified when you're new and every point counts.
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>>168834149
>and hit max level
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>>168834149
>ut I'd like to experience the core game first and hit max level
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>>168834149
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>>168834260
You are a retarded idiot.

Ranger Raider and Pathfinder are generic classes FAR from "esoteric" that just do melee better than marauder does

Duelist Slayer too, but xhe asked for a girl char.

And scion is a fucking outdated deadend
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>>168834558
If you're reasoning in terms of ascendancies, you're already way past the point of being helpful to a beginner. Dude has a 50% chance to quit after Brutus, so get off your high horse and get some perspective. The best course for him is to stick to an easy beginner build and unlock Scion if he really wants to play 2h melee female warrior, then he can reroll again once he ascends and realize he gets nothing as a Scion but that's a big if. There are like 50 steps in-between you're assuming he completes.
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>>168834852

>the best course for a beginner is to put hours on a shit class and realize xhe NEEDS to reroll because some scionfag gave him the wrong advice
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if you can't prove the general plancherel theorem from first principles you are not allowed to post in this thread
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>>168834390
>>168834453
>>168834541
Clearly I said something retarded. I accept your laughter, just let me at least know where I fucked up.

>>168834260
>>168834852
Ok, clearly I'm making things way more complicated than I need to. What I'll do is start off with Marauder, follow a basic, generic build, unlock Scion, and take it from there.

Once Scion is unlocked I'll try to figure out who's better for 2H gameplay between the two. I don't know which of you two is correct.
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>>168835297
its silly to expect hitting max level on your first char

just play until you want to try something else or feel like uninstalling
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>"I want to play a spellcaster, what do you guys recommend? Is Witch any good?"
>DUDE JUST PLAY A PATHFINDER BLADE VORTEX CRIT LL SKYFORTH WITH VINKTAR TOH RUMIS IF YOU PLAY ANYTHING ELSE ITS GOING TO BE DOGSHIT AND YOU WONT HIT LEVEL 100 AS FAST AS ME

>>168835108
Yes, because the early optimization for a beginner is far more important than anything else an ascendancy would give. You cannot use the same reasoning for someone asking for end game advice and someone who will most likely quit before level 40.
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>>168835432
I just want whichever is better for 2H gameplay between Ranger and Scion, that's literally it. I don't know who's right or wrong, so I'll just play with Marauder until I unlock Scion and hopefully will have the answer then.
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>>168835297

Scion right is now is the LEAST popular class/ascendancy for a reason

but do whatever you want
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>>168835558
That's correct, tho.
Self-cast Casters are so much weaker than anything else right now that outside Essence Drain, it's literally pointless to go generic Caster anything.
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PoE is a bandwagon game, because it's too complicated for dumb people to reason about.
Streamers could conspire to make Duelist #1.
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It's this kind of stuff that at the end of the day makes you think
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>>168835690
>Least popular ascemdancy
God damn she has the ugliest ascendancy portrait,still can't look past it.
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dumb != ignorant
investing time into a bad build after trying out a ``good" build feels really bad
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>>168835810
poe is only """"""""complicated""""""""" if youve never player arpgs, or just played d3

for anyone else its just another arpg with its fair share of convoluted mechanics
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>>168835989
>They hired a random cock-knob on DA to do all the artwork
>He did a great job on most of them
>And then you look at Ascendant
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Elementalist is shit.
Occultist a qt.
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>>168835625
Scion is shit, go Ranger. Fair warning that Ranger is not good for 2handing shit, duelist is better.
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>>168835625
Classes in Path of Exile are not tied to archetypes. You can do basically anything you want with enough experience and currency. Spellcaster marauders, melee rangers, ranged witches even, anything you can afford.

Scion as the central class of the tree can do anything naturally, but lacks the specialization other classes can offer. As a beginner this is not relevant to you though, since your first few builds will be bad no matter what. It's better to pick the class that lessens the magnitude of your mistakes for a given archetype, you can't really fuck up a Scion if you go for a generic 2h archetype because you have early access to relevant 2h clusters.

For example as a Scion you can get melee damage, melee damage, a lot of life, attack speed, and that gives you a strong start already.

As a Ranger your best path for 2handers is some life, a bit of attack speed, and then nothing else for another 10 levels. You're going to feel weak and it's not going to help you if you don't have the gear to make up for it. So the class is not really suited for leveling with 2handers although end game that can be a solid option.
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>>168835795
>Self-cast Casters are so much weaker than anything else right now that outside Essence Drain, it's literally pointless to go generic Caster anything.
Everything about this sentence is wrong.
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>>168836517
Totem Caster is outright better than Self-cast variance for 90% of applicable builds.
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>>168836658
How about trap caster?
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>>168836337
Scion leveling with generic 2h melee into warchief totems is going to be a hell lot more efficient than some Ranger who doesn't get anything special until normal lab and even then nothing really defining, not to mention all the wrong gems for 2h melee. Have you people ever raced in your life?
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>>168836847
Only is really viable for Bladefall Occultist currently.
Spells that are locked to Traps work fine for Trappers, but Spells with Trap supports, not so much for most.
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>>168836873
>Have you people ever raced in your life?

>moving the goalpost to "racing"
hehe

so now you want a newbie to race?
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>>168835558
>>168836362
If I understand you correctly, Scion is better by default than Ranger for 2H, but if I actually learn the game and how Ascendancy works/have funds then Ranger becomes the better for a 2H build?

>>168836337
Duelist may be better, but the point is that I wanted a female character to go 2H with, and right now the current debate is which is better for that purpose between Scion and Ranger. From what I'm understanding Scion is better by default for 2H and easier for a beginner like me, but Ranger becomes better later on.
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>>168836517
t. rory "es is technicaly worse than life" rackam
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>need items for every status ailment
>no es flask
es buffs when
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>>168837004
It highlights a point I've made earlier, which is that ease of access to "natural" build archetypes is far more important than some late game advantage you get once ascendancies and 80+ points are taken into account.

If your 2 requirements are
2h melee
Female

Then Scion is far superior to Ranger as a starter class and you're only arguing for the sake of arguing.
Natural gem rewards, stronger start, doesn't have to wait until ascendancy to get relevant melee bonuses, etc.

If it can't work in racing, then it can't work outside for a beginner, pretty simple.
Just because there are viable spellcaster marauder builds doesn't mean you recommend it to a beginner.
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>>168837035
Correct but since typically beginners don't reach the point where late game specializations start to matter, you should stick with the class which offers the strongest early power for your given archetype, in this case the Scion
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>>168837371

not only pretending newbies race is pointless and retarded, but plenty ranger starter gems are usable on a 2h build

and i cant in good conscience recomend the worst class in the game to a newb just because getting the first 15 levels on it is comfier
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>worst class and ascendancy in the game
>played by no one but waifufags

>needs to be unlocked

what did GGG mean by this?
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>>168837035
> I wanted a female character to go 2H with
Than that's basically it >>168837614, but you'll have to unlock scion first of all.
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>>168838068
>worst class and ascendancy in the game
Templar Guardian
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>>168837614
>>168837808

I'm about to flip the script entirely now actually. When I think about it, going through the effort of making a Scion 2H, when I know Ranger would be better eventually when I inevitably get better at the game and more funds, would kinda kill the prospect of having to re-roll into said Ranger. Honestly, I think I'll avoid 2H and Melee entirely and just roll with something different entirely.

I think I'll go with witch and just be a spellcaster. Seems like it'd be a good choice for a beginner, I can stay ranged and nuke shit from afar.
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>>168838068
that is me in the picture btw
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>>168837808
>not only pretending newbies race is pointless and retarded
I never pretended that, you have reading comprehension issues. The logic that applies in racing (early game optimization, builds that are optimized following gem rewards) also applies far more to beginners than your rambling about ascendancies and their merits. People dislike racing because it's the most boring part of the game, but the point is that's it's also the most crucial part of the game for beginners because it decides whether they stick with the game or quit because they spent 10 levels for +10 stat nodes that are useless for their build.

>but plenty ranger starter gems are usable on a 2h build
Name them. If you're going to recommend muling gems and buying twink gear to make the leveling part bearable, then maybe your advice isn't so good after all.

>and i cant in good conscience recomend the worst class in the game to a newb
That's because you're the real noob here. Your knowledge of end game is in no way relevant in this context and you lack the perspective to put yourself in the shoes of a new player.
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>>168838143

supportcucks are strong af tbqh
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>>168838175
youve flabby arms
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>>168838149
Good choice, remember to pick Witch and not Shadow
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>>168838068
>can do literally every build in existence
>worst class
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You have 10 seconds to name a single build for which Scion is 100% optimal and not outclassed by another class
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>>168838445
I was going to keep it simple and youtube whatever's the most popular witch spellcaster build, but I trust you guys judgement more so if you have a better build for me to follow instead, I'll do that. Otherwise I'm just gonna keep it casual and do whatever the most popular youtuber witch spellcaster build is.
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>>168838237
check the gem rewards on the wiki, nerd
im not going to engage in your autismal mating ritual of microquoting just because you are buttblasted that someone put youre waifu in the trash

>>168838594
>can do literally every build in existence literally worse than any other class

fixd
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>>168838825
fuck yes
piety go back to oriath and lead the fucking slave uprising
piety blasting sick EDM jams and getting all the slaves fucking pumped up to fight their opressors
act 5 soundtrack is all electronic and intense, drum and bass, dubstep, IDM, you name it

let's fucking go
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>tfw we haven't seen piety's final form
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>>168838825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG2ikOeXkyU
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If Piety shows up in A5 I am uninstalling.
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>>168839191
She's in Act 9.
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are you all retarded?
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If I were retarded would I be able to tell?
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shes in act 6 and 8 too
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>>168838907
You've never raced in your life, it's okay to be ignorant. You probably would be just as slow as that new guy when trying to figure out how to reach A3 as a 2h melee ranger before you pay someone to complete lab for you. Good luck with that Frost Blades power leveling though, moron.
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Kaom's Roots look so fucking dumb.
Why the fuck did they make such a retarded 3D model?
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how do you troll people in pee ooh eee ???
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set an item at a nice price and activate dnd
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trigger their sensibilities with words such as SSFHC or p2w
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you misprice an item badly and /dnd
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I always learn something new when I go on r/pathofexile but never learn anything here

the average game knowledge level here is abysmal
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So which Unique Items are you looking forward to trying to get in Legacy?
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>>168820192
pretty good m8
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fuck up nigger
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>>168840461
Where's Flesh and Spirit gloves.
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Do we get more ability gems with 3.0?
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love this meme where we ask questions no one has the answer to and just essentially waste everyone's time with our faggotry
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>>168840808
they havent said so but probably

2.0 came with a good number of new skills
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>still no path notes
>still no new tree

How am I supposed to plan my next build
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>>168840808
Yes.
>>168840658
>Check Wiki
Their "League-Specific Unique Items" page doesn't have them.
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>>168840808
>It includes new skill gems, unique items and much more!
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>>168840953
>plan a batch of builds
>adjust accordingly once you have patch notes
are you literally retarded?
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>>168840808
>>168840946
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is this a good witch build?
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>poeplanner
can you read the OP
if you can't use the official planner like the rest of us, flip off
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not clicking this virus
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>>168839904
do bandit quests with people in HC then pick the opposite choice to them and PK them

or open breaches in intense fights with other people playing with you and PK them by proxy

there's lots of creative ways to PK people by proxy in this game
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How the fuck am I supposed to get a 6 Link Vaal Regalia? Those things costs like 500 chaos. And then on top of that I have to get like specialized enchants to keep from being stunned all the time when I go CI. And respec like 50 points. What a shit show.
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>>168841197
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>>168841375
play life builds if you're poor
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>>168841197
>poeplanner
Oh boy...
>CI VP GR EO
Oh boy...
>288.4% ES
Alright then...
>Tri-curse and taking Beacon over bastion
>Check Equipment and Auras sections since post didn't list skills and shit
>Nothing
Generic, powerful, probably nerfed in 2.6.
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I see a lot of build guides recommending controlled destruction for raise spectre builds. Does that buff all spectres or only the ones that cast spells like flame sentinels?
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>>168841514
>thinking CI, ES changes are coming in 2.6
pay attention, retard
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Is this faggot considered an act boss?
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>>168841615
you should really only be using flame sentinels or maybe revenants from a4 for spectres unless you doing some crazy single target shit with blade vortex spectres
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>>168842132
For leveling though you go through two whole acts where those flame sentinels / revenants are too low level
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>>168842079
Forgot pic
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can you stop asking retarded questions?
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>>168842079
>>168842323
Nope.
He's a mandatory boss, but not an act boss.
The Act bosses are:
>Merveil
>Vaal Oversoul
>Dominus
>Malachai
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>>168842551
What about Brutus and Piety?
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>>168842267
yeah they are at a low level but they make up for it by being far superior mechanically and damage wise
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why do we have to deal with those literal retards before every league

really grinds my gears
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>>168842818
Brutus is a mandatory boss, but because killing him doesn't open up a new Act, he's not an Act Boss.
Same with Piety.
In Levelling, there are 3 types of Bosses, Major, Minor, and Act Bosses.
There are currently only 4 Act Bosses, they mark the finale of each Act.
Major Bosses include Act Bosses and any other Bosses that are required that you kill to reach end-game.
Minor Bosses include all the others, including Unique Mobs that spawn in specific zones.
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good job explaining to him the meaning of the english language

he's new so it's okay to not understand the underlying meaning of the cryptic "act boss" expression
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what are bosses
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>>168843282
>>168843432
Why do you idiots refuse to reply directly? Are you retarded?
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>>168843598
its a form of advanced autism known as (You) denial
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really fires my synapses
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Its actually a microaggresion used by the 4chan elite to deride the plebs.
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any strategy on how to beat this elite
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>>168843820
damage her nacklace hitpoints and her defenses will drop
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not using (you)'s allow for 2 conversations to go one at once, one using quotes and the other not
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what's a cheap fun and shaper viable hc build
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>>168831747
the best shitposts are relational
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>>168843927
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Is block worth it if you can't get spell block?
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avoiding attack damage is entirely useless if you cannot avoid spell damage too
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just dont' get hit lol
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just dodge bro
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reddit's pushing for a currency pick up gem
god i hate those fucking casuals
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i'd pay for a currency pickup pet
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>get prophecy for map boss to drop a guaranteed map
>it's a lower level map
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what the fuck is wrong with the new generation of gamers

all they want is automation automation automation automation automation automation

can they fuck off back to d3 with auto gold pick up

GOD
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maybe you shouldnt be activating prophecies
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> new: autopick your loot with jew rhoa! Only 374 points
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ascendancy should change your character model
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>>168846486
>>168846486
bhis
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ascendancies and labyrinth were a mistake
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>>168846165
maybe you should stop saying stupid shit
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ascendancy was perhaps the best thing that happened to poe until 3.0
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>>168846606
says the retard frogposter who activates whoopi goldberg bounties
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>>168846807
the hell? was I supposed to waste additional coins to seal that prophecy? fucking idiot
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>>168846486
I agree.
But that's far too much work, even if it were just a few retextures for something you won't even see under your actual gear.
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I agree, balance issues aside, ascendancies changed the game entirely for the better. Labyrinth is still annoying but I'm glad you only have to do the trials once per league now.
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>>168846363
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>>168847093
or because majority of players play on lowest textures because of lag
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>lag
nice to see you dont know what that means
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guys will the 1 hander buffs in 2.6 affect buzzsaw builds?
I'd think not since buzzsaw does mainly elemental but I'm not exactly sure, was thinking of doing buzzsaw this league
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you literally answered your own question
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>>168847932
I was hoping I'm retarded and was missing some mechanic
at least give me a (You) next time
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>>168848183
not him but here you go
it costed you
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>have more ehp then god, 1600 in normal
>maxed resists
>an army of terminator tanks
>spawns blades under me
>shield gone in an instant
>run off them
>spawns blades directly under me again
>run off them
>stop to cast something
>3rd set of blades directly under me
>die
>minions finish the fight anyway

Why is act 4 so bullshit, you have to be incredibly lucky to avoid these kinds of RNG deaths OR have practiced the boss fight 100x so you know exactly how each of the bosses skills behave, which isn't something you have the opportunity to do when you only play hardcore
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ALMOST ADEQUATE
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>>168848603
The only problem one is Daresso.
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>>168848845
Daresso is far easier then Kaom, Piety, and then Beast
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>>168848603
>leveling with ES
your braine is damaged
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>>168848913
I completely disagree, daresso has huge damage spikes that are far harder to dodge than any of the others you mentioned. everyone else can be facetanked or easily dodged if your build is optimized.
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>>168849040
What daresso attacks are hard to dodge?
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>>168848603
flask management has literally nothing to do with your preexisting knowledge or experience with the fight

cant take someone's complaint seriously when I see them with full flasks upon death

unironically learn to use a quicksilver or at the very least use the highest tier of life flasks
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>>168848967
Nigga I don't have 50 regret orbs sitting around when I just created a character in league for the first time

If leveling with ES is so hard then that's a balance problem that should have been addressed at this time now 5000 years after launch
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>>168849219
I made the mistake of picking a life flask in act 1 because I assumed I'd just be able to get or buy a quicksilver later. Did not see another quicksilver for the entirety of the difficulty, checked vendors a lot.

I popped two flasks on reaction to my shield dropping down, as far as I remember using multiple flasks does not stack the regen effect. Forgot to use the dodge flask because it is so shit anyway 10% chance to dodge would not have saved me there. Those were the highest tier of flasks that were dropping. Might have been able to buy one tier up but I didn't think I'd need to since I almost never even dropped my energy shield.
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every death is a learning experience in hardcore

if you can't deal with that reality, stay in softcore
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>>168849673
>wasting 30 hours of your life to learn that there's a random miniboss in kaom's realm who oneshots you from offscreen

path of exile
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what's the point of failure if cannot handle the possibility of it? if you don't like the idea of falling on your face, don't take off the training wheels
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>>168830674
>No flavor text

ABSOLUTELY HALAL.
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>>168850036
But it usually doesn't take you 3 days to climb back on a bike. A lot less people would ride those things if it did.
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>>168850240
its not unique
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>>168844859
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>>168850567
But it shouldn't take you 3 days to level back to maps assuming you have played this game longer than a month.
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First time playing Scion.

Crit + attack speed static strike with elemental damage and aura builds.

Is this ok?
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>scion
loling

>static strike
LOLING
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>>168850740
I've been playing since launch and that's the shortest time it's taken me to level. Usually 2 weeks to hit maps. I don't know how you go fast. I try to go fast and I just don't have the damage or the survivability to make it through the acts, so I have to grind areas until good gear drops, which takes a very long time usually.
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It might take you 3 days if you only play a couple of hours a day.
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>playing since launch and it STILL takes 2 weeks to hit maps
how are you this fucking bad, it should take 3 days or so, 4 MAX
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>>168850740

> play 3-4 hours a day

2-3 days is average I guess.
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>>168851969
I don't have friends to beat bosses for me like steamers do
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neither do i you retard, you don't need people to beat bosses for you to level quickly

fuck bosses aren't even the longest parts of levelling probably, i'd argue just general inventory management and layout knowledge is way more important

but i guess you don't even know how to read The Coast layouts am i right??
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i leveled as a wander on garena with 4 gorillion ping in one night when they had that patch before us
which friend do you think i needed to kill bosses for me
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>>168852150
Hmm I still level a new char in like 10 hours to maps with no currency. I maybe buy 2-3 levelling uniques costing me around ~5c along the way though.
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>>168851759
>so I have to grind areas until good gear drops
You don't want to level with gear-dependent builds.
Sure, a firestorm/bladefall totems/etc build will benefit a lot from having lifesprigs or other good leveling uniques, but you can still easily drag your way through the game SSF.
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So, I feel like I hit the wall as HoWaA Raider.
I feel like the only way to progress is either is getting rid of Unwavering Stance
>Sustain a Kiara's Determination
>Get a Skyforth
>Get 100% stun recovery
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>>168852840
What builds are gear independent?
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>>168853157
Anything attack-based is going to be the absolute worst since you'll need good weapons.
Stuff like firestorm, bladefall totems, various mine/trap builds, freezing pulse, all can level fairly well with little to no need for gear, and then you just re-spec at 70-ish.
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one-handed attack builds are more cancerous to level than two-handed attack builds
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>SSF shitters actually need a LEAGUE to play SSF

Lmao. You bandwagoning cucks could have been playing like this since day one but just want to virtue signal how "hardcore" you are for hitting your head against a wall.
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>>168853157
any non-crit spell
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So let's say I'm kinda new to the game. Been playing on and off since the closed beta way back before 1.0 and only now decided to pick it up seriously since the next expansion looks interesting. I'm currently running a templar, but one of the old builds I was using was with ice nova. Is that sort of thing still viable? I got really put off the first time I finished Act 4 by the horrible scaling and the god awful end boss
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Why do people respond to each other without actually quoting each other in these threads? I don't understand this meme?
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>>168831110
please respond
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just use vortex instead of a nova skill after you do sever the right hand
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>15% of Fire Damage Converted to Chaos Damage
>golem does fire damage
gee willikers anon, im going to take a wild guess here and say that it does
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>>168853918
it's one idiot and xhe's trying to make a point or something, honestly pathetic desu, yhe also exclusively plays hardcore and makes sure everyone body knows how superior zhe is
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They should really do something about the penalty of troll mantle now.
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>>168854229
so you're telling me that i can pick up fire nodes on the tree and it will apply to my golems because it's tagged as fire?
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tell me what you think anon
seriously
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1001-1100 is out lads
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>>168854669
>>168854229
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>>168854938
what did he mean by this
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i think i'd like to play hollow knight in a few days when it's released
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>>168855075
another 1.1 gigs of doujins on the backlog
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>>168854229
>>168854915
>>168855108
you're actually the worst desu
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whos the worst then, me or him hmmm??
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>>168855368
yes
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if scion isnt buffed i will take a shit on the doormat of GGGs Titirangi office
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i may be the worst, but i'm still going to be playing hollow knight
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>>168852894
pls respond
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>>168855368
You ain't not fooling nobody m8
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i think you have edited that image
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>Build creator expects people to six link a Cospri's Will and get RRRRGB sockets
>Listed as Beginner friendly, budget, league starter, very powerful
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>>168856103
ment for
>>168856046
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>tfw can't even credit for my own posts
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NO STOP TAGGING MY POSTS
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There was a thing I was going to use cospri's for until I looked at the expected number of chromes and noped out of it.
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>>168853938
No. It's a global affix, which you can stack across multiple pieces of gear. That means it doesn't apply to the gem directly, which would be one of the ways which it could apply to a minion. If the affix were to appear on a shield, then it could be given to them through Necromantic Aegis.
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I miss the slave girls UI. We're getting Solaris-chan but still. Lunaris is shit btw.
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SRS is the only way to make a decent Necro? Like doing the same thing but with skeletons only would give a shitter result right?
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no srs isn't the only way to build a necro
skellies are shit mechanically though so there's no hope for them
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>>168831065
What purpose do you serve exactly?
>>
he's teaching you about opportunity cost
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>>168836517
>>168835795
>people say self-cast casters are bad
>currently have a Pyre Vortex elementalist in T15 maps
>all because of an overlooked unique that makes self-cast vortex do a shitload more damage

Feels good to have secrets, man.
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>>168858517
Free (You)s, sometimes just giving peeps what they want will shut them up.
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>>168858953
>'people'
>not 'one idiot'
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>>168858953
>Pyre
>Overlooked
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I hope no one uncovers the power of shavronne's wrappings.
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>>168859329
>wasn't referring to Pyre as the overlooked unique
>pyre is the build-maker
>other unique is what makes it godlike.
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is it armour weapon accessory or what

come on throw me a bone
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>>168859578
Weapon.
Enjoy the (you) also.
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>inb4 its searing touch
>>
Negative.
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It's probably Goddess Scorned.
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using anything associated wit charan is shameful
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i am 90% sure its either Singularity or Ashcaller (I think ashcaller)
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>>168859971
Also negative. Keep guessing.
I mean, when one of you inevitably guesses it, you're gonna (predictably) call me a shitter and that I don't know what I'm talking about. But it's what carried me to T15 maps.
>>168860075
Aaaaay, Singularity, ya got it. Now call me a shitter.
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>he STILL doesn't know how to triple dip
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>>168849848
goddamn right
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Tulfall.
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>>168860190
Wait, we talking about Trisk or the Grove? Both can one-shot you from offscreen if you're not aware of them.

>>168860243
Someone already guessed it, it was Singularity.
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>>168860136
how the fuck is singularity some super secret power of shav's?

you know shav's was BiS meta for a ton of leagues, right?
it was literally good with everything
>yeah but it's good with THIS ONE WEAPON

?????
it's good with EVERYTHING you fucking dunce
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>>168860136
>80% increased damage against hindered monsters
>"do a shitload more damage"
That's literally just an 80% increased modifier because it doesn't say "hindered monsters take 80% increased damage."
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why would use singularity when it doesn't scale dots
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nice placebo effect anon

i know you are going to say it helps with the first hit for the ignite as well so shut up
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*triple dips*
heh... nothing personal kid
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>>168860390
i have not seen a decent vortex build that leans on the DoT.
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>>168860302
Shavs? Where did I ever fucking mention shavs? Or anything related to Shavs? What niggerspeak have you dribbled into this thread you gormless cunt?

>>168860374
>doesn't say hindered monsters take etc etc
Straight from the item:
"(60-80)% increased Damage against Hindered Enemies"

Look, like I said, you lot all fuckin overlook it. Mock me all ye like, it works wonders for my setup
>>
Reminder that he could have used Doryani's and picked Singularity for his next level Vortex build.
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>>168860503
Inc. damage against hindered enemies =/= hindered enemies take inc. damage.
The former is an Inc. modifier to your damage.
The latter is an Inc. modifier to damage taken.
The former works normally.
The latter acts like a % more modifier.
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>>168860517
builds on a budget, lad. sing is worth fuck all, doryani's early is expensive as all get out
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thats a shame anon because i have a vortex build relying on DoT right here for you :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrAqeSv2IeA
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Duelist area looks like the best place for a Fireborn jewel, or am i missing something?
>>
you are correct
>>
Thanks
>>
One day I kinda want to create a full on newbie guide on how to do stuff step by step. It seem like some peeps don't understand that no one expect you to use or even have say a righteous fire gem right off the bat. They expect you to work up to it. Then again I am very lazy and if people are that fucking retarded anyway then it is doubtful they will ever get far.
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>>168860849
what
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Poehud
>>
Poetard
>>
gonna go to bed and when i wake up legacy league better have started goodnight to you all i hope you have a good ti
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>>168852894
git gud
i have a howaa raider with unwavering stance and can clear all content deathless
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>>168860517
where did he say he didnt use doryanis?

this (You)less think makes it a fucking nightmare to follow conversations or read through threads you weren't actively present for
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>>168860949
People like to burn themselves alive then bitch that the build that they didn't even finish didn't work.
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Anonymous 20/02/17(Mon)04:08:57

maybe if you weren't retarded it wouldn't be so hard hm?
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>>168861761
wow dude you must be REALLY good at the game to be able to do that
>>
Welcome to chatrooms (generals).
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>>168862045
i mean it really is amazing how you're projecting right now.

>>168860517 is the first mention of doryani's in the thread.
>>
but that wasn't me who talked about doryanis

are you alright anon? :)
>>
reddit seems confused on how anonymous image boards work
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>>168854938
>>168855159
i'm not too deep into the doujin release scene

but i do know that there's stuff that's removed from exhentai quite frequently

where do I go to get the REAL plethora of doujinshi? to get all of it, not just the stuff that the copyrighters don't give a shit about?
>>
>sony music picks off all of the sawano music
>leaves up all of the "covers" that sound like shit
good advertising strategy
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this is for all the shitcrows itt
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>>168863184
have a card friendo
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>>168862572
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?user=327613
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>>168863395
thank your friend
>>
How much %life and %es would suggest for a hybrid build?
>>
100
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>>168862006
there are more than enough guides but more content is always better for the health of the game
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>>168863918
as much as you can pick up while navigating to notables and keystones that you need
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>>168864094
Right that's what i'm doing, but I'm curious at what point it becomes worth to go hybrid instead of stretching out for pure life or es
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>>168864203
if you go hybrid it usually means you're doing shit like EB/MoM/etc. and having a many layered defense. But as far as whether and when it's strictly "worth it" to go hybrid, I would say that's a mistaken formation of the question. You're generally going to sink a lot of currency into going hybrid or CI, so it's a matter of preference, or if you notice that your skill tree is already branching in a lot of directions. There was a very successful BV berserker that went hybrid in bhc, for example.
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>>168863675
this isnt everything

there are several tanks that arent part of those packs

just search fakku on sukebei for a full list
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>>168864972
So when I search, I find a bunch of individual titles and stuff.
Are these what you mean? Those aren't included in the # - # packs?
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>>168840461
I'm gonna love seeing what they do to the Gull.
That shit was terrible in Domination.
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>>168865750
>Implying they'd do anything as shit as the Gull, which not only relies on the league Mechanic (which isn't internalized like Rampage)
>But also relies on getting good modifiers from the League mechanic to complement your build (of which there's only a few you'd helm swap to Gull for instead of just grabbing)
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What if there was a claw passive that gave attacks with claws Ghost reaver while on full life?
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>>168865442
correct

most of the doujins in the packs are from X-Eros, Kairakuten and Shitsarukuten. ie collections of release from various artists.

tanks are individual releases by a certain artists that fakku bought and redistributed sometimes with extras/higher resolutions
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>>168866676
Then it'd be like HoWAA received a really minor Nerf that requires 5 or 6 Passive points to fix.
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>>168866815
Sweet
This is excellent
Thank you
>>
I hate the rng of this game. Too much rng involved.
>>
Go play Eryi's Action.
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>>168867216
protip
get happy panda so you dont lose your mind trying to keep track of what you've read
>>
How often should I be upgrading my gear while leveling?
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>>168867798
>while levelling
Really early, like up to A3, pretty often until you get a full set of Rares.
A4 through A4 Cruel, not nearly as much unless you feel you need a Socket upgrade and can afford a shit rare or find a decent Rare with better stats than what ya got.
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>>168860849
there are a few decent newbie guides on the official forums tho (but many are shit)

maybe just write a list of the good ones with links, and explain why they are good, instead of reinventing the wheel
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>>168867918
In all, how many different ways of upgrading your gear are there? So far I know of sockets and their respective links.
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>tfw just had a dream i was playing poe but my desk was clean, and instead of a diet coke/coffee i was sipping a cup of red wine (which tasted fruity and sweet). the PoE i was playing had something like perma-rampage counters and it felt more like an arcade game

did my mind just travel to a parallel universe?
>>
>drinking sweet wine

top pleb
>>
no that used to be reality, but you changed it to save your girlfriend
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>>168868165
Buy some cheap leveling uniques from poe.trade
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>>168868165
Sockets and mods are the only ways.
Generally, more HP, Resists, Stat bonuses, and if going ES or Eva, Defense bonuses, are the mods you usually wanna look for. (skip Hp is ES-based, not advised for new players)
And then sometimes you give up decent stats for good sockets.
Towards early Merciless/when you hit 68/70, you'll wanna visit poe.trade and get a bunch of stuff to kit out your character to survive in the harsh environment.
Shit's cheap.
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>>168870004
I know Sockets are in relation to Gems, and the the passive skill tree sockets for Jewels, but what are "Mods?"
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>>168870225
The actual properties on the item
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>>168870303
Ahh, and that has to do with the crafting system then?
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>>168870225
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>>168840461
Formless flame / formless inferno.

Legacy BoR
Legacy Soul Taker
Legacy Coil
Legacy Kaom

Those 4 items are all quite broken, and I guess the BoR at the moment is the most build enabling. I also wonder how they are going to buff life builds.
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>>168870389
Alright. And again, Skill gems are the only things that go into item sockets, correct? Jewels are strictly for your passive skill tree, yes? The two terms are a bit confusing to me because they're so similar.
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>>168870502
Correct.
Jewels are for Tree, Gems are for Gear.
Helmets, Gloves, and Boots can have up to 4 sockets.
2-handed Weapons and Chestpieces can have up to 6 (item level of 35+ for 5 sockets max on any gear piece and 50+ for 6 sockets), 1-handed weapons and shields can have up to 3.
Quivers can have up to 0, Belts and Amulets (excluding a special Talisman) can have up to 0 as well.
Rings can have up to 1.
Talismans are also an exclusive object to the Talisman League, so you don't need to worry about those.
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>>168841678
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1832918

>___>
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>>168870478
I was going to do a BoR build this league before the announcement, but now it's gonna get flooded with people rolling BoR thinking they're going to find a Legacy BoR.
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>>168870830
Sad but true.
Price on those Foil shits (especially since you can't Divine them) is gonna be fucking absurd with all the RNG surrounding them.
The good ones, like a double Legacy BoR will be fucking insane.
>First, you gotta find a Reliquary
>Then, you gotta get lucky enough for something from the Foil Box to drop that is actually Foil
>Then, it rolls on their weighted loot table into an item
>THEN, it rolls which Legacy Variant it is if applicable
>THEN, it rolls the item rolls on it
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>>168870708
I'm assuming the PoE wiki shows where/how to obtain specific skill gems/Jewels?
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>>168871081
i think the divine thing might be misleading

the only thing they've said is you can divine shit ones to get their buffed versions

it might not be true for legacy face breakers for example
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>>168871291
Yes.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Rewards
You can see all the ones you can normally gain here.
The ones you can't gain can be found from Forsaken masters (Catarina, Haku, etc.)
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>tfw 99% of the poeg playerbase can't get on your level of thoughtcraft
>tfw you design gamebreaking builds on a daily basis
>tfw you refuse to share them with the plebeian masses simply because they're not ready for them yet
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RETARDED frogposter
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>>168871450
So let's say there's a build I want to follow that needs a specific skill gem that I can't get from vendors or quest rewards due to the class I'm playing. I can get said gems from Forsaken Masters? Or are said Forsaken Masters said vendors?
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>>168871775
Forsaken masters are not the Vendors on that page.
They're the female in each Act that sells you Orbs and shit.
You have 3 options: guarantee gem access by levelling another character, rolling the dice with Forsaken Masters, or buying them from other players.
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>>168871775
The forsaken masters are these guys you find while you're outside of towns, if you do one of their little "quests" for them then you gain reputation and after the first one with each of them they go back to town and become vendors.
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Can we just stop enabling new players? those should flip off back to r*ddit
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>>168871775
gems also drop randomly from mobs. most basic skill gems are relatively common drops.
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>>168872129
Why would new players ever be a bad thing? come on man
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drive all new players away before they nerf your builds
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solo self fellatio players must leave this general immediately
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Anyone here who still hasn't ascended to medium core needs to nys immediately
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by encouraging this welfare culture where no question is stupid enough to be left unanswered, you slowly drag the level of the general to the shitter
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Any of you guys tried a sorching ray totem build? is the AI on the scorching ray totem at least good enough to be viable? I know they wont be as good as say, just flame totems but will they work or is the AI not good enough?
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Friendly reminder that chinkpoe has already implemented single-key multiflask binding because slants do care about QoL
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nobody gives a shit about the chinks retard
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What's the worst element for casters right now? Cold? I need garbage meme builds to sustain me.
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>>168872812
that would be lightning actually
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>>168872812
Aren't there some decent ice nova crit builds or something
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>>168872812
cold has scaling problems they can almost always be fixed, and vortex is really strong even if you dont

lightning spells are shit right now
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ball lightning isn't shit
shock nova is shit tho
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>>168872869
>>168872935
Good to know. I'll make sure it doesn't use crit, that way it's extra smelly.

>>168872920
No clue, haven't played for a few months, but pretty sure cold was considered the worst at the time.
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>ball lightning isn't shit
maybe if you went crit pathfinder with dying sun
MAYBE
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Anyone care to glance over my softcore quad scorching ray totem build? http://poeplanner.com/AAQAANslAwBr-d2LjMCaCarZ_MBmBLOiAOFzmjuCm-081abkIhpsna4DdZErWHdfBDbpJKoWb-Nq-tJmnljlKhNaK6PywxNyD6cI6-6a4EWdU1J8g6eUXl3R_REtLJwQWIdlr7cyNB8CBAeD21XGOljwH2jyr2wLYcauDF8cp1OlEMw8LYPMtz7-Cti9NZLE9iftBg7UfAn28kU64f6PTeOmV6-nHM4rUA3N_lRZ8xo4kFUnLx0UEmkXHHF52CRWSP6HeyD4kxzcuJMo-pitga-40No6sQVoWgRROhaGggAAAAAA
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>poeplanner
>>>/reddit/
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>>168873324
Is there something wrong with PoEplanner?
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>>168871914
>>168871958
>>168872180
Seems like the smartest approach would be to just play without said gems starting off and just buy them from players. They really are cheap. Finally, is PoE official forums decent for getting builds, or would you guys recommend a different site entirely?
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>>168872986
has more value as an utility skill than as a damage dealer unless you scale it using traps or mines in addition to crit
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>>168873387
Yeah I'd say the PoE forums searching for the class/gems you want to use is a pretty good place to get a build.
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relic kaom's heart and a cold damage taken as fire damage talisman
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>>168873387

the forums have decent build but try to look for well-explained builds for newbs with budget alternatives for every slot
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nice sh*tcrow build you got there
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>>168873213
id say its pretty bad in almost every way

but it can be a learning experience for you if its your first build
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>>168872129
>>168872434
Here's the problem, how do you even know what's considered a stupid question if you're new? What if you've spent a while on google, but want to make sure you've been given the right information? I'm personally willing to keep asking while searching and suffering the occasional angry reply, but still.

I never understood this attitude from well-versed players. As if you expect a newbie to invest potentially hours trying to look up information and then hoping said information is correct on their own.
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read the wiki for at least two years before posting
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>>168873770
Yeah it'd be my first build I've done myself, I've got a good amount of hours in the game but I usually just take some build off the forums, this is the only one I've made. anything in particular that's wrong with it? I was told by someone else to take EE since the scorching ray doesn't actually count as a "hit" so if I use ball lightning as my curse on hit the "hit" from ball lightning will decrease their fire resistance.
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>>168873814
not that guy but ill tell you why I find many inquisitive newfags annoying:

1. they want to start off perfectly informed about builds and mechanics even before they make their first char

this is a shitty way to play ANY game. its not a fucking school test you need to study for, just jump in and play and when you form your own opinions and doubts from experience, then ask.

2. many of their questions can be answered taking a look at the wiki.

3. they expect people here to owe them replies or politeness. we dont
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>>168874084
Yeah I mean, that makes sense, especially your 2nd point.
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>>168874059

its bad because you take many inefficient nodes and completely ignore jewel slots, which are by far the best damage nodes for things like scorching ray

there are some very good shit you also narrowly miss and go after noobtraps like those armor nodes you took

plus you dont have nearly enough life even if you intend to play softcore (180% minimum imo)

EE is great for your build but it wont work for you, since you are taking ancestral bond your LB wont do damage, and it wont trigger its effect.
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>>168874084
>this is a shitty way to play ANY game. its not a fucking school test you need to study for, just jump in and play and when you form your own opinions and doubts from experience, then ask.
exactly
it's so aggravating to see someone ask for the best way to build the most op meta build when they've yet to kill merveil
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>>168874248
Hmm, should I drop Ancestral Bond and go for the trio totem build or drop EE?
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i've been playing for five years but i still ask /poeg/ stupid questions sometimes because i'm pathetically lonely and need some (You)s
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There are no more (You)s here. We've mined them all. We live in post-(You) times.
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>>168874369
i would definitely drop AB for EE. take the totem stuff near the scion life nodes with the remaining points and ditch something else if needed. those are very good totem nodes (the only ones id take)
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>>168874425
rip.
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>>168874084
These are all fair points. However, I'd argue that for some players, myself included, I'd prefer to have some idea of how the game works and ideal builds that would give me the most enjoyable/comfortable experience. With starting a new game I personally don't like being shittier than I need to be, hence I like to research a bit before going in blind.

I agree many questions can be found from the wiki and google, but there's other questions you just want a quick confirmation for even after you may have found an answer. It's like solving a math problem and then verifying that you got the correct answer among fellow peers.

I do agree however that newbies should be prepared to get shit on, regardless of their own prior effort to finding said answers for themselves, which I even said before myself. I don't really disagree with your points, but I DO take issue with posters who get mad at other anons who wish to answer. It's their personal choice. Hell, I'd rather you just shit on the person asking the question instead of getting mad at somebody who chooses to answer.
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>>168874493
Alright, thanks for the help.
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this isn't blogger
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no posters left behind
adopt a newbie
xbone players matter
#imwiththem
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xbone posters
we'll have two incompatible games in one thread
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>>168874603
the best way to have an idea of how the game works is by playing it without following meta guides. meta builds are explicitly about abusing mechanics that may not be permanent, to make the game much easier than it normally is

also poe isnt nearly as complex as you may think. dwarf fortress is 50 times larger and deeper, even your average 4x game has ten times more depth than poe
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I hope they have race leagues for the xbone version of the game so they can become more popular than the PC racers.
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thinking about trying out flame blast as a starter next leauge.

Is it good or am i buying into the meme?
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>>168875102
fireblast cast on channel firestorm is probably one of the best leveling combinations in the game
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Won't know until we see what the fire and AoE changes are, but it should be about as easy as can be if they don't muck with it much.
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>tfw not enough gem slots for summoner
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>Is it good or am i buying into the meme?
jesus fucking christ

STOP
ENABLING
THOSE
IDIOTS


poeg is for build advice, criticism, tree review, discussion, NOT answering your dumbass day 1 yes or no questions
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WRONG

poegg is for discussing waifus
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thinking about playing meta next league

is meta good or am i buying into the meme
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This is a better idea as long as we aren't limited to PoE waifus.
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i think you are retarded to even ask that question
honestly
kill you are self
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new player here, what's the fastest way to shaper

what are leagues

should i play hardcore
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>>168875391
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>>168875552
>new player here, what's the fastest way to shaper
git gud
>what are leagues
wiki
>should i play hardcore
yes
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Tentacle miscreation is the obvious waifu choice
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Ask catposter about the fastest way to buy shaper kills.
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how do i find legendaries

what's the best class for magic stuff

how do i level fast
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new player here, what are the best diapers to wear for pushing ladder if i want to compete against ziz

>>168875391
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I can't tell if these are all just shitposts or legitimate questions from new players
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>>168875183
Since they're literally wording it "CHANGING" AoE mechanics, the fair bet they're going to just change the formula for the future. ie. how it scales with future broken/nerfed shit and that AoE radius or damage won't change for builds this patch. Maybe for some extreme cases, like huge AoE spells won't benefit from increased AoE as much. It would be retarded for them to reduce the radius all across to board right now.
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this is 4chan not fur affinity
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can i respec my build like in diablo 3

is this game p2w

how do i change my class gender
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new player here

what RMT site should i use
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>>168875649

I would go with the Red Barrel adult gamer diaper
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new player here
what does RMT mean?
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real man tits
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>>168875554
>tfw no Amanda forcing Diana to do lewd shit doujin
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>>168875869
new player here
what does new player here mean
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new player here, whats the best build to rush to uber lab on the first day so i can get a stranglehold on the economy
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new player here
which of the rmt websites is ggg's so I don't get banned
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I welcome the xbots now.
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excerpts copypasted from r/pathofexile, word for word, notice the idiocy and complete lack of self-awareness that leads those "players" to add such question with no apparent shame:

>Flame totem viable?
"Is the Flame Totem an end game (am I going to be able to kill Atziri with it) viable skill or is it just a worse version of Ancestral Protector? Is it worth to make a build around it and if yes, is it a good league starter? Thanks for the help!"

>[Help] HC build for a newbie.
"Hey everyone,
I'm a rather new player interested in hardcore mode, using either shadow, duelist or templar.
Can anyone recommend a viable build that could work?
So far in the SC league I finished the first difficulty only and using whatever sounded like fun.
Thanks."

>New player help
"So I haven't played any yet, before I dedicate some time to it could someone clear up to me what the difference between league and standard modes are? or Standard and Breach? Does it matter which game type I do first."

THIS is the kind of bullshit you enable every time you answer a wikiable question here
THIS is the future you choose
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I don't read any posts more than four lines long unless they seem interesting by the first four words.
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if a new player isn't automatically good, then i'm not going to help him get better

this is wraeclast, not disneyland
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>>168876146
Kira and Piety strap-on

>>168875552
A build that uses physical or fire spells.

Leagues run for three months, everyone starts fresh, when they are over your characters and bank are moved to standard league.
Nobody but legacy hoarding kikes(BTFO, by the way) play standard and standard hardcore.
Sometimes people use it to test new builds but it's not worth the effort really, number crunching is easy enough outside of the game.

First time you probably shouldn't. The game is very easy 99% of the time, with the remaining 1% suddenly fucking you in the ass.
Unless you've no life what so ever, re-leveling hardcore characters is really shite.

That said, if you are going to play the upcoming league(week and a bit), playing hardcore at the start of the league is pretty fun, as everyone is dying left right and centre and the lines between autist trade kabal tryharding cunts and normal players is blurred.
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I don't read any posts that include >>

Stop giving free (You's) to catshitter
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KEK just wasted your time faggot you will never get these precious seconds back :^)
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Doing a spectre build for the first time and I'm wondering how spectre mob-level work, for example I'm in Act 1 cruel at the moment but I really want the Act 4 Spiders or Act 3 Fire Sentries, however those zones are level 40(41?) and 28-29, if I create their corpse with desecrate(says it makes level 41 corpses) will the sentries&revenants have mob-level 41 or the level of the zone?

Thank you.
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>>168876225
thank you for the answer

do you have a tree i can check out

how do i get currency in this game
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>>168876238
Cool story
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>CTRL+F "cat"
>10 hits

Thanks for indirect (You)s, birds.
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>>168876321
I'm playing spectres too. Basically you can take the mob you want and make it spectre. Then go to a higher level map with high lvl desecrate and put bodies on da ground and there is small % chance to make it the spectre you have. Just make those spectres and you'll have strong spectres. It's also a pain in the ass and fucking gay
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Log in and open trade chat until some garbled text advertising a website scrolls by. Buy your currency from there.
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168876321
read the wiki you fucking retard
literally the first line of the desecrate description
nys yourself
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>>168876328
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree

Currency drops randomly. All currency does something.
Identify scrolls are the Zimbabwean cents of the exchange market.
The standard USD are Chaos Orbs, which re-roll yellow rarity items.

>>168876268
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>>168876414
Seems like a shitty way to handle spectres t b h, thanks for the answer though.
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Just finished Act 1 (great game btw). I was wondering if it's normal to of just been using 2 skills the whole time? I made the Shadow class and pretty much used frost blade (for mobs) and viper strike (for single targets) the whole way. I have other skill gems in my equip to level them up, but none of them do as much damage as those two so I never actively used them.

Is this ok? Will I be getting more useful skills that I'll actually use later on?
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GGG is shit at usability. Can't wait to see xbox summoners.
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Hey so for the next league, I plan on following a build. This will be my second character; my first was just me freestyling. Where would I find builds that are good enough for end-game content?
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*doesnt answer any questions*
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>>168876807
Player power creep is so strong that practically everything is end-game viable.
Bonus points for physical and fire spells.
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If I want my character look badass I need to buy clothe skins?
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>>168876686
yes you will, but keep in mind that gem level like you so you may want to keep a few that interest you equipped if you want to test. but them on your second weapon slot if you want just so they make exp.

Quests will give you more gems, and you'll find more as-well.

Also keep in mind that in each "town" the npc selling scrolls/jewelry and potions also sells gems on his second tab. These gems are the ones you get offered as quest reward. o for example if you do a quest and can chose between gem A, B or C, pick whatever you want cause the npc will sell A B C from there on. This updates with every quest done in their own town. Have fun
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i really want some summoning changes in 2.6
PATCH NOTES WHEN WTF
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>>168876919

Buy the full game (only $200) instead of playing the free trial.
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If you want a character that looks good play a game with good art designers.
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>>168876919
some uniques have great look. Always depends on what armor-type you're wearing.
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Hello there as the title says im new to this game although i have previously played diablo and torchlight before i learned about this game just lately i thought it was great and started downloading the game from its official page with its launcher the launcher said PoE Atlas of Worlds but when i logged into steam and the subreddit i saw that it had this 3.0 Fall of Oriath update wich is what brought me here in the first place.When i tried downloading the game from steam it gave me a different download size than the launcher and confused me.So where am i supposed to download the game from to get the new update :/
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>>168876957
breach isnt even over yet and then theres still a week until the next league starts
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I can't resist oding a summoner every fucking league, even if its my second character of the league.

Might have something to do with me making necromancers in D2 every ladder since 2001

>>168877056
3.0 is coming this summer
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>>168877117
I might be dead this summer
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(New player here)

Mainly looking for something with a bit of "flash" to it. Looking at totem/ cyclone builds for marauder and it all seems really bland to me. Maybe I'm not looking at it from the right perspective but just playing a class spinning through enemies for hundreds of hours seems monumentally dull... seconded for placing a totem and kiting in circles. Anyway if anyone can recommend a totally BALLER looking class that looks great on the screen + isn't too beginner unfriendly... That would be great!
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>>168877117
Summoners are solid league starters, second build is a little questionable.
I started with one this league.
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>>168877127
i hope i die before summer
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>>168877117
Dude I play the exact same way, every league always some form of summoner. though I kinda hate raise specter so I usually do some stupid shit like skeletons/SRS or the more recently golems
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What's the best Scion build
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>>168877127
do you have cancer?
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>>168877207
the one where you delete the character and roll a different one
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>>168877221
just light aids
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>>168877206
How are golems? I've never done a build so far that could summon more than one.
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>>168877252
not me

>>168877291
Golems are good but memey
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>>168877291
Yeah pretty much exactly what the other guy said, golems are good but I never really did anything past 1 golem cause money, though you can do the dual clay shapers and shit if you're broke I guess.
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>>168876686
AoE clear and single target DPS is a solid combo of skills. The only third of the triumvirate is a movement skill. But they won't be any faster than using a quicksilver flask until you have a lot more cast/attack speed.

The meta is a bit shite at the moment, and generally you'll only end up with one skill that will do both single target dps and aoe clear.

Shadows can go physical attack as well as spells, but seeing as you're leveling physical attack, your future is probably switching to a Bow and using those skills, or using Blade Flurry, which you will get mid act 3.
Blade Flurry is pretty strong at the moment and pretty satisfying.

The thing worth remembering is that at the highest level, your damage is primarily affected by the support gems you use.
Therefore, to get the most out a skill you need a six link.
Only two types of items can have up to six links: Chest armor and two handed weapons.

Six links are super rare so you don't often have both(or either, up until pretty late).
And at the end of the day your six link probably does more damage over all, compared to say a four link that has a better single-target gem.

So you just spam the aoe one.

The other thing people do is switch between concentrated effect, and increased area of effect support gems depending on whether or not they're fighting a boss or clearing trash respectively.
(Increased Area of effect being obvious, and conc effect is the biggest single gem damage boost{so long as the skill has an area}, at the cost of area)
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>>168877396
What purpose do you serve here?
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>people unironically replying to redditposts
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Who are you?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8jyQwUemNM
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>>168877128
I agree that totem builds are mind-numbing, but pretty much everything in this game ends up that way. You'll be doing enough repetition of anything for anything to grow dull.

Blade Flurry is smooth and satisfying.
Flameblast is pretty damn satisfying.
Shitting multiple projectiles of something everywhere can be pretty fun as well.

Earthquake is visually impressive.
A lot of ice spells are particularly satisfying in how they shatter enemies. Not the strongest at the moment though.

Earthquake marauder or duelist would be incredibly new player friendly.
The slayer ascendancy for duelist probably the most straight forward thing in the game.

>>168877207
Don't play Scion, there isn't any point beyond picking the blonde who isn't dressed in rags.
She's really weak at the moment.
And her voice is more annoying than anyone else except Ranger.
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calm down boys
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GGG desperately needs to fix the way spectres work and give summoners a way to have extra gem slots or consolidate all the existing summoner abilities that are necessary for a summoner build to work

animated guardian saves to the gem so you can resummon it whenever you need, why can't it work the same way with spectres? do they think it'd be too strong? who gives a fuck? summoners are shit. having t16 spectres wouldn't do shit

>spirit offering
>flesh offering
>bone offering

THREE(3) different offerings, and for what purpose? does GGG really expect players to fuck around changing these for different situations? fuck off. that's horse shit

GGG also expects summoners to give up their defense to buff their minions. in what universe would this be a viable tactic in HC?

summoners have always been retarded and they're getting worse. people have been complaining forever and they've done nothing about it. there are tons of people out there who enjoy the necromancer play style but they don't care apparently

it's just another example of something that could be easily improved but it will never happen for some reason that nobody knows. my guess is GGG is just lazy and doesn't want to do it
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>>168877640
ironically, The Crow was filmed with permadeath ON
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>having t16 spectres wouldn't do shit
probably why a handful of them kill shaper in 30 seconds
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>>168877686
he didn't fly so good

;_;
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why didn't he use his logout macro
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>Summoners

My brothers will not have died in vain
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>that flask setup
sh*tcrow
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>>168877940
I was leveling on that pic
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>health flasks on 1
#1 sign of an inexperienced casual player

veteran players never use that flask slot because it's not ergonomic and isn't conducive to playing for many hours at a time
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>>168878161
least used key for the least used flask
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S>>168877127
GOOD!
>>168877197
I HOPE TOO
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>>168878161
I've been putting my healing flask there since the game exist. what do you even mean not ergonomic? Dont you usually put your movement speed on Q ?

Shit I even moved up my anti-freeze flask from 5 to 3 because sometime I would tap 4 or 6 by mistake and stay frozen 1 more sec than necessary, killing me.
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>pooptarts so mechanically impaired they can't hit their flasks correctly
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What do you want?
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are you retarded?
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>>168878347
are you telling me that you never press another key by mistake?

Shit I still use the F1 to F12 setup for skills in d2 and let me tell you that I put the buff and summons on the F8-F12 since the chance that in panic mode you hit the wrong one is huge (when not looking at the keyboard).
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yeah try speed mapping for 16 straight hours and then tell me how your hand feels
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mistakes are for shit players

I elevate myself to the level where mistakes are impossible
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>>168878487
>mistakes are impossible
since we are human, mistake can't be avoided.
the fact that you are currently spending time on 4chan proves that
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>these kids manually trigger flasks instead of using pixel grabbing macros checking for changes on health/es
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>>168878161
veteran players use a flask macro
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SPEED MAPPING FOR 16 STRAIGHT HOURS WTF LOL
Some of us here have a life, kiddo.
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>he still clings to his humanity
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cheating is for losers
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>>168878545
>>168878551

I'm not a cheater.
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honor RP is for virtue signalling hillary voters
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back to your board
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>be an "elite" HC player
>use macro for flask and log out
>skip content left and right
tell me again where does the elite part comes in?
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>westerners need a macro to play a walking sim without dying
LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q
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@168878671
>tell me again where does the elite part comes in?

in the part where im smart enough to use a macro and give myself huge QoL upgrades you can only dream of

@168878684

>you have to torture yourself with lack of macros so you can be like some chink whos gonna have arthritis and carpal before 30

no thx
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>>168878161
>it's not ergonomic
????

Are you a fucking retard who doesn't even know how to type properly? You are, aren't you, being this arrogant about your handicap.
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macros users are more pathetic than shitcrows
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/267099-flashs-surgery-has-been-successful

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32996009


haha yeah dude!!! be a pro and get RSI surgery when you're 20!! xd
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anti-QoL luddites are the vegan militant feminists of gaming
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What build should I play, inspired by this image.
Stat me.
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maybe stop jacking off to midget trap porn and you have to worry about your wrist health you fucking 20 apm bronze shitter
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>>168879127
RF witch
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>Implying
I was masters multiple times as terran
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>>168879198
>SC2
kek

I'm sad Broodwar is pretty much dead online. Unless there's a new boom since 2017 started but I doubt it.
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhmm


this is the

PATH OF EXILE GENERAL

you fucking retard

gooooooood
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>>168879253
Iccup? Okay I was B. You were probably D- lmao
It's okay keep pretending you're good at games because you press your flasks constantly
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post your credentials
as far as I'm concerned you're a bronze shitter

anyone with an RTS experience understands ARPGs are a joke mechanically, gear checks are not player skill checks
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>>168879291
I am not good at starcraft, what are you talking about.

I'm just sad that everything is keybound, automatic and dumped down in sc2. Doing some microshit in broodwar was hot.
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can confirm diablo clones are only slightly above plants vs. zombies
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No one is saying press flasks is hard. It's just quality of life. Okay you want me to screenshot my masters rankings in 2013 and then claim it's fake? What's the point?
ARPG is already a casual as fuck game. Go play flaskfinder and then continue on about how pressing flasks is somehow skillful
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i've been elite at every game i've bothered playing ever since i was a youngster

and make no mistake, i'm the most elite poe player in /poeg/
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forgot your cat picture
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i have a job and a gf
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I'm virgin neet
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>>168879539
>i've been elite at every game I've bothered playing ever since i was a youngster
I've been try-hard myself when I was young but really at some point there's a priority shift in your life and videogames are either left on the side or become the fun side entertainment that they should have been in the first place.
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"QoL" is just an empty all-encompassing term used to justify mediocrity and cheating, it's as empty and meaningless as saying "boring", made even worse when the term is championed by redditshits whose sole purpose seem to dumb down as humanly possible
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combatex should be driven from this thread
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reminder the ultimate """QoL""" would be a press to win button
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It's as empty and meaningless as spamming 1-5 every few seconds
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>>168879658
i'm also elite at life

checkmate
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back in my days players used to take pride in their ability to outdo each other through sheer practice honing their skills

now we have a generation of netflix millenials for whom the most basic input is considered tedious and thus must be relegated to a script

it's fucking pathetic
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>>168879408

>QoL is an empty term

only a newshitter who played AFTER item filters got in would say this

or a GGG shill
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>pressing your flasks repeatedly every 5 seconds is now a measure of skill
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>>168879750
i think you replied to the wrong comment
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back in my days players would take pride in outdoing each others utilizing clever automation tricks and pushing the boundaries of input emulation on games

now we have a generation or reddit virtue signalling faggots who believe honor RP will get them good boy points to exchange for some tendies later

its fucking pathetic
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don't ever quote me or my post ever again
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>all this flask talk because I posted some random pic while leveling
Can we talk about Atziri's booty-shacking instead?
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is it even worth using cyclone if you're not doing ngamahu's
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>keeping track of buffs is not a measure of skill, therefore autocasting is just QoL

>aiming is not a measure of skill, therefore autoaiming is just QoL

>inventory management is not a measure of skill, therefore autopickup is just QoL

>resources management is not a measure of skill, therefore skills being mana free is just QoL

>positioning is not a measure of skill, therefore CI+VP is just QoL
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You are grasping at straws now
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im going to beat you up
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>doing atziri
sh*tcrow spotted
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2013 masters is 2016 bronze desu

no wonder you need macros if that's the extent of your achievements
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>xhe thinks atziri is hard

kuk
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"QoL" = "just turn off your brain bro, it's a game so it should be fun"
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It's okay keep pretending you are good at any game. Sc is a dead game now anyways
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>>168880129
>therefore autocasting is just QoL
Which buffs are you referring to? Auras and heralds don't turn themselves off, bloodrage refreshes on kill, tempest shield refreshes on block, etc.
>aiming is not a measure of skill, therefore autoaiming is just QoL
Well there isn't really aiming in PoE, and it does autoaim skills for you that aren't ground targeted. Ground targeted skills tend to be easy as shit to hit anyway.
>inventory management is not a measure of skill, therefore autopickup is just QoL
But that's true, before picking up items generally happens out of combat anyway.
>resources management is not a measure of skill, therefore skills being mana free is just QoL
Resource management != resource limitations
>positioning
Yeah that's grasping at straws now.
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Skills come in all shape and form. Anything that demands your input in a timely manner usually makes it possible to be skilled in doing so.

Its usually always the same: you react to something and move/press a button. That something can range fro ma direct attack to a time running out.
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I'm not pretending to be good, I'm claiming you're fucking shit, that's a subtle nuance even someone as simple-minded as you should be able to pick up

What kind of lobotomized mouth breathing chimp needs a fucking script to hit his flasks?
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Singapore server down for anyone else?
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Will these be any good if support gems aren't affecting the novas?
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Didn't realize someone said they NEEDED one.
Are you fucking retarded?
You suck so much at starcraft that you need to come here and act like you're some god at casual genre of game.
Must suck to live your life
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Im starting to think these honor rolerplayers may be jelly they never learned actual useful skills beyond mashing keys at dead games so they feel bad at being unable to take advantage of desktop automation
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>needs a fucking script to hit his flasks
But that's exactly the issue. Nobody NEEDS to use a flask macro. People do it because it saves them from getting carpal tunnel.
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>>168880523
>never learned actual useful skills beyond mashing keys at dead games

>actual useful skills
>games
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>>168880534
if you dont think that its to avoid dying then you're retarded. A script does something faster than you can, usually. Why would some cheat and use logout macros then if its the same as doing it themselves?
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>>168880569
>he thinks scripting and desktop automation has no use beyond games
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>>168880672
Anon I work with script on a daily basis at my job.
Its not the same at all.
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>>168880650
It isn't though. The people that want a flask macro are people that are clearing so fast they can have 100% flask uptime and it's just a pain in the ass to press 5 keys constantly.
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>>168880650
A logout macro is arguably cheating because it lets you logout faster especially if it's injecting a RST or using other methods of logging out faster than a simple alt-f4.
A flask macro makes no fucking difference because flasks are generally up 100% of the time even if you aren't timing it perfectly, not to mention having a small gap in flask usage isn't the difference between life and death during general mapping. During a boss fight maybe, but that's not when you'd be using a flask macro.
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still retreating behind the "you can't criticize me because otherwise you must be some pretentious elite wannabe!" cop-out, the entire point is my personal skill is not in question here, but yours is highly questionable the moment you choose to relegate very simple input to a script under the pretense of "QoL"

own up to your shortcomings for once in your life you little weasel, keeping track of separate, multiple temporary buffs which is the whole design of flasks is a skill as minimal as it is, thus choosing to abandon any thought of paying attention to it is the negation of skill and the admission you're a shitter
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>>168880712

i do legacy VPF app maintenance for a living

my skills there translate to ahk just fine. and there is even an ahk wrapper for lua interpreters so shit can be extremely flexible
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if your build isn't shit you don't have to worry about managing flasks. you can literally just spam them and do fine

yet another reason why poe is shit
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>>168880754
>keeping track of separate, multiple temporary buffs which is the whole design of flasks is a skill as minimal as it is
No, it's really not.
If you're doing a build with turbo clear speed, you can press flasks inefficiently as fuck and still have 100% uptime on them, thus there's no difference in output between a flask macro or not.
If you're doing a build with shit clearspeed that can't keep them up then a flask macro will fuck you over more than it will help anyway.
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You still seem to think there is skill in pressing all your flasks at once. There is no keeping track. You already keep track and see your flasks are running out and just hit them all again for 100% uptime.

I honestly don't know what skill you are even fucking talking about when using flasks. If you are actually doing hard bosses, content you won't use a macro because it will waste all your flasks. Speeding through maps you will constantly use the macro but that's it
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Why are we even talking about skills?
A game should be played as is, not with some macro-shit or whatever.

Also I wish that there was some timer to log out like in d3 or various mmo so that hc player could not just cop-out. Then maybe I would consider playing hc.
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>It makes no difference whether I use all my flasks at once or not
So why do you do it you fucking retard?

>I can afford it because my build clears fast
If your build is reliant on having all flasks active to survive, then that's downside of your build compared to another with passive defenses, a downside you choose to conveniently negate by ensuring you have your flasks UP all the time, leaving no room for eventual player mistake
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A game should be played however the fuck you want.

If you want to roleplay as an honorable exile and read all lore very time you level something, do it

If you want to use your skills in desktop automation to have a chuckle at the QoL you bring to yourself, do it
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Dude using a macro literally makes no difference. What don't you get. All it does is save some quality of life clicking
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>>168881170
yea but being bad isn't fun
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>Dude using a macro literally makes no difference.
So why do you do it? Answer the question you fucking weasel, and don't use empty justifications like "it's QoL", there IS a difference and the difference is that without the macro you would leave yourself to a mistake, so you'd rather rely on automation to keep you safe from a very simple thought process that should be your job as a player, essentially assuming you're incapable of mistakes and flasks buffs are to be used as a package instead of situationally
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>>168881170
>Mom said I could do whatever I wanted
Irrelevant, you're still a shitter for doing so
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It IS qol
If I didn't use a macro it would make LITERALLY
no difference. I'd still hit my 5 flasks before I release my vaal spark like I always do and continue on like normal.

There is no thought process again. The thought process is oh I hit 1 button instead of 5
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>>Dude using a macro literally makes no difference
That's a fucking strawman and you know it.
It makes no difference in OUTPUT while saving you some RSI.
Two players with identical fast clearing builds, one with flask macro, one without. They'll both perform equally well but one will stave off carpal tunnel.
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>So why do you do it?

sometimes QoL
sometimes Comfyness
sometimes lazyness
and because its possible even if the advantages it brings are sometimes slight

yes i will automate shit even if its not that much efficient than not automating it, just because i find it amusing
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this general is full of retards
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>>168881373
So you're just another braindead CI babb? Vinktar shocks you so you need to press your flasks of grounding instantly to keep you safe? that's the justification you use for being a shitter? I guess what they say about CI retards is true, why would a life build need a flask macro, to hit all their seethings at the same time?
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/poeg/ I've been out of the loop on PoE for a year+, I've a couple questions (Not QoL related :^) )

Is the whole removal of difficulties and adding in 6 acts around middle this year?

With SSF, is this purely solo, meaning no partying what-so-ever? If yes, any word on when they'll introduce some sort of self-found/no trading but can play with some friends? There's many ways they can do this too.
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>>168881475
>Is the whole removal of difficulties and adding in 6 acts around middle this year?
Early July
>With SSF, is this purely solo, meaning no partying what-so-ever?
What the fuck do you think "Solo" means?
>If yes, any word on when they'll introduce some sort of self-found/no trading but can play with some friends? There's many ways they can do this too.
They probably never will, but who knows
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Why is Scion?
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>>168881362
>my super superego says its bad so i wont do it

youll eventually undergo psychological deconstruction of your supergo and realize that as long as it hurts no one, it makes no difference cheating at a vidya or not, specially if you use it to test your skills at something vaguely related to gaming as well
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>early july

You have to much feith in ggg
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>>168881541
So close yet so far, GGG. They can even copy Diablo 3.
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>>168881587
Leave your pathetic high school philosophy for your hipster cafes and explain why you play video games if the idea of actually engaging yourself as a player is abhorrent and automation is preferable, why not take it a step further and actually run a bot while you watch the screen as it automatically executes tasks and picks up loot for you?
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if I wanna go full meme golem build, what ascendancy do I use?
from what I've gathered:
fire golem -> elementalist
chaos golem -> necromancer
rest is trash

something like that?
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>spamming 1-5
>engaging yourself as a player
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elementalist if funcore because of shaper shenanigans
necromancer if hardcuck
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speaking of ele golem shaper memes
couldn't you do the same on uber atziri
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>>168881737
i only bring up psychology because you mentioning your mom gives your argument an oddly freudian element

and to answer to your question, i naturally engage myself as a player via automation when my brain detects way too many cyclical and repetitive tasks with little thought in between.

do i macro shit on dwarf fortress? no, because that game doesnt tickle my automation itch, the way poe does

and yes, i do bot sometimes as well! i actually made that one too myself but its not as good as poebuddy and im lazy to develop it further because it feels like it will never catch up
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>>168881850
>I enjoy the thrilling experience of pressing my flask macro so my vspark Vinktar build is not only safe from reflect but also shock and clears a screen of my shaped Strand in one click, truly this is the height of the gaming experience I can expect in PoE
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>>168882004
When automation of flasks is considered a given for you to begin actually experiencing the game the way you view it should be, it's time to uninstall and waste your time in other endeavors better suited for a braindead moron like you seeking instant gratification, you're still a shitter in every sense of the term
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yes, there are fun parts of poe and there are boring parts
adding a bunch of button mashing to the boring parts doesn't make them less boring, it just makes them boring AND painful
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>>168882174

i almost agree with you that i should probably stop playing poe, because it is specially prone to be easy and gainful to automate (which imo is a sign of bad gameplay)

but for some reason i still find it amusing.
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Newsflash, PoE is only as challenging as you want it to be, if you stay in Dried Lake, if you stay in blue Strands, if you're as challenged as a bot running the Ledge, then no shit the next logical step is automate the process even further, you're basically the equivalent of a real life chain worker, except you choose to lobotomize yourself willingly, so what does that say about you if you not only desire being dumbed down, but defend it with pride?
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if you play in hc it's much better to have control over your flask and using them in right situations

everybody who talk about flask macro is fucking shitcrow and should leave this general right now
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The right situation is to have them up at all times if you're map farming
lmao
Fucking retard
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starting to think posters here might be legitimately retarded and not just pretending
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What you don't understand (probably due to you being illiterate in desktop automation) is that scripting is also something that takes skill and pushes your understand of the underlying mechanics in the game.

Ive found a bunch of hidden cooldowns in PoE, weird glitches and other things like that, that aren't mentioned anywhere in places that discuss this game (bot devs have known them for a while tho).

Its a whole different way to view the game, and that in itself is interesting and amusing.

But like some music that is only appealing to musician, i guess some approaches to gameplay are only appealing to computer-literate folk.
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agreed
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If I wanted to view the game through the lens of a braindead shitter, I'd play D3

Congratulations on being a script kiddie though, although that's a stance that has ironically deviated quite a bit from being initially DUDE IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE LOL or DUDE MY WRIST HEALTH LOL
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Most of hc deaths comes from players not using their flasks correctly, but yea sure spam you 1-5 every 3 sec shitcrow
>>
based animeposter
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i have screenshots of all my HC rips saved
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>>168882927

see >>168881413

comfyness and QoL are still my main motivations when i see that a game just demands me for a bunch of repetitive, cyclical shit

but notice the last element of that post. that is where exploring the limits of what the game allows you to do comes in

im honestly sorry for people who believe doing those things manually makes them skilled
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I feel sorry for YOU
your stupid shitcrow bird brain is beyond saving
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Nice to see poeg still has the "try to reply to someone without quoting post numbers" meme. Not being sarcastic, it's been here for quite some time now. Does any other general do this all of the time?
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i actually play hc
its the only way the game is still interesting once youve got QoL up your ass ;)

im not surprised anti-qol luddites, honor RPers and computer illiterate people are actually the same person tho.
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>i'm a god of this game, all my own actions are always optimal and correct therefore repetitive so instead of playing myself i watch a bot do the same actions, the god i am

gotcha.
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the best qol is not playing the game and watching some streamer/letsplayer do it for you
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sometimes im reading while mapping but thats pretty much it. glad we agree
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if you're consistently in the top .5% of the playerbase in every HC league then your playstyle is objectively more correct than some random bottom of the barrel mongoloid shitcore player who struggles in t4 maps
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>using a script makes me a hacker, whose technical knowledge you wouldn't even be begin to comprehend

guess self-parody is your last resort when your idiocy has been exposed for all to see
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How do I know if I'm in top 0.5%?
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>>168883407
that only works if you were born after 1995
otherwise you arent naturally cuckable
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>>168883478
profoundly good post
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>ahk scripts actually give me a deep insight into the game
>i am too smart to play a video game, but just dumb enough to spend my leisure time in a thread for a game
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>buying challenges makes me skilled
>automation makes me skilled
>shaped strand is my favorite map since I can practice linear shield charges
your average macro user, everyone
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>>168883478

scripting ability doesnt make you a hacker anymore than basic literacy makes you a writer

but yes, you seem to have the right idea.
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>i am so smart even my understanding of hacking eclipses yours
>you could not even begin to comprehend my technical skills
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do you have a script for automating idiotic responses or does that come naturally to you
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>RPfags feeling this assblasted and intellectually inadequate

why. doesnt your superior skills to do the same thing 22343 times per hour give you a sense of superiority anymore? kek
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superiority over shitters like you is a given, your only comeback to a verbal beatdown is to retreat into your alternate reality

go ask your mommy to change your diaper you widdle shitbabby
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>i am the alpha and the omega
>i am the father of rule post-pruning
>when computation was invented i was already old, and its invetor
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how the fuck can GGG stop people from scripting? they can't.

so use all the scripts you want
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>verbal beatdown when you failed to make any operational argument and had to rely on an appeal to morals and ethics to justify your position

and even then you are clearly feeling inadequate. i didnt know id hurt you so, anon
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how the fuck can society stop babies from shitting in their diapers? they can't

so shit in your diaper all you want
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he went from this >>168881292 to this >>168884228 just in the space of a few minutes


whoa
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>tfw when too intelligent to do anything
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guys please stop
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so you admit to being a immoral, unethical, unskilled and a literal limp wristed shitter rofl

macroshitters never cease to push the boundaries of idiocy it seems
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there's no stopping now this thread is going critical
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>>168871563
Can you please stop posting stupid shit with pepe pictures? People are going to start thinking I'm retarded
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I guess you idiots don't even use macro to socket/link you items and spam left click 1000 times
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>>168884415
i admit to being too smart to let a game make me do a jump and dance so repetitive and easy to break down into its elements, so i automate it

>>168884465
but manually blowing up fuses is actually cathartic tho
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if real life chain workers are so intelligent, why do they accept being underpaid and considered the disposable bottom trash of society
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>>168884343
can you add an rsi scar to the arm
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because if they try to riot there will be 10x more trash ready to work in their place
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>i'm not one to brag, but i removed repetitive and and easy to break down elements of going to the bathroom
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do you think catshitter still uses diapers because it automates the disposal of his waste
>>
can you please fuck off anime
you're not welcome
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>>168884712

thats an excellent analogy.

poe gameplay being so shitty is what makes it so automatable
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today i've witnessed a macroshitter cleverly tricked into admitting he's a literal diapershitter

good times
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today i witnessed a RPfag admit he would rather manually handle Chris Wilson's shit than let a script do it for him

good times
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>these lesser beings still play while my superior technology frees up my time to shitpost
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this thread stinks of mediocrity

think catshitter left one of his still steaming diapers around
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>>168884989

>robots using analog input methods instead of a direct digital interface

anime written by teenagers was a mistake
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it's not every day that you are too lazy for your own leisure activities
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>mashing your hands all over the keyboard every 5 seconds is fun for you
I can only imagine how fun your normal life is
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i was going to go for a hike, but that was too much work so i sent my robot to hike fo rme
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imagine having no morals, no ethics, no skills and no wrist endurance
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i must remove all of these inefficiencies until the only one left is my very existence
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>he hasn't merged his conciousness with the client yet
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imagine thinking roleplaying to be honorable on a shitty internet game gives meaning to your life and the will to press a couple keys manually in the same order for hours without wondering if there is a better way to do that makes you good at something


im not catshitter btw. catposter is as mentally backwards as you regarding macros, ive had this argument with xhim before. i think you two would get along
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from now on these threads are for people too smart to do anything only
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Are cyclone and lacerate builds interchangeable?
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don't change the subject
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imagine having regressed so much physically and intellectually the extreme exertion of pressing a handful of keyboard keys shortens your life expectancy
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FB or BF totems for leveling an SRS summoner as a league starter?
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>>168885496
someone pls respond
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>tfw want to ask something poe related but will get ignored in the memenado of shit-posting
Can't you cunts like just hash it over a discord or something?
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>someone invents fire
>hurr imagine being so bad at digesting meat and vegetables that you need to use catalyst for a milliard reaction to be able to eat
>you should just chew everything 10 times longer like real skilled eaters!!
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>>168885749
SRS summoners tend to level with SRS
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>>168885805
Yeah if you're a fucking retard and wanna go slow.
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this isn't a support forum no one cares about your problems go away
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leave this thread
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there are no slow skills only slow players
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there are no slow players, only slow bots
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1-5 bathe
6-0 just apply talc to feet, armpits and groin
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there are no bots, only automated diapershitters
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Fully automated luxury gay diapershitting
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I'm scared to play for next 2 weeks because I will burn out before 2.6
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play something else
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How good is Templar for alife-based explosive arrow build?
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which ascendancy do you think will hep you with ea
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PixelGetColor, colorlife_change, %X_life%, %Y_life%
If (colorlife != colorlife_change){
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Sleep %pot_delay%
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;)
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^DELETE THIS
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>random delay

top kek
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>>168886796
There's no crit to take advantage from inquisitor, no point taking guardian, only hierophant might be able to sustain it without using blood magic. But what's the fucking point, even berserker is better because lmao aspect of carnage.
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I had a joke tree for a CI Hierophant EA character, but suggesting someone play it seems sadistic to me.
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Why would you CI an ascendancy meant for MOM.
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inquisitors can sustain high mana cost skills with pious path

4% mana regen with 1000 mana = level 60 clarity
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>>168886796

Hierophant?

>>168886943

Idk, id rather not do that.

-

Here is a tree i made.

http://poeplanner.com/AAUAAQUlOwCATwRDyFugp1V8Dmjy8B-iAASzfEuWdLaG7SCCm5o7n9_vfOw4Oth8uz0Pr6cczitQDc3-VCcvkFWFe2ZUKU_kIhpsNukkqhZv42qdrgN1kStYd18Epwjr7prgRZ1TUtgkVkg2xR8CBAcyNK-3h2WD21XGOlismPFsNthJGyqN7FVMs5eVUlM9X9Af7-vE9iftBg7UfAn2GS7ZYVcN85toZdIh8kGCB57NpzCfy_GsKS58uBo-Xz8UIO8OUEd_4zH7xq48LYPMtz5Bh_no_grYvYNfNZIMXxynU6WIWl7APO8YXaBCm1j60hcvZOdV1oCkKyYDmnUqcWKu_ewuWG1kMwAAAAAA

What do you think? As forgear, will have Vertex, Kaom's Heart and Xoph's Blood.
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reminder that SSF means you will need more damage from the tree because you won't be able to get OP gear
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>poeplanner
why does reddit keep raiding us
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>zero cost skills
>not going CI
It's like you don't want to win.
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I'd suggest Champion or Elementalist for EA tbqh.
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>>168887154

First time i hear about reddit using poe.planner. I guess i am an anomaly.

>>168887176

Dont like CI, gear is not entirely friendly with CI.
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>not playing EA opfinder
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>not playing ocultist EA with 2x consuming dark swap for poison explosions
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What MoM actually needs is being within reasonable distance from acrobatics.
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they said MoM is getting some nice mana nodes after they keystone, like what CI and BM have

MoM will be meta again, which means hierophant will be popular, especially in SSF HC

now if they add aylardex cards that are easily farmable, then my hierophant MoM aylardex 8 power charge build will be top tier
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Thanks for lame feedback. I discovered how to paste items into build on planner, so im having a bit of fun there.

Ill look up the whole MoM thing now.

Meanwhile, have a look at pic.
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So hierophant is the king of SSF. With either horror essence helm or Rime Gaze he can do most of game's content on a 4link, has some decent utility/defensive nodes and free charge generation.
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Maybe wait until patch notes to plan your build.
Also download the offline planner if you expect anyone to look at your shit.
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>build around MoM
>die to degen
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I bet like half of SSF players will be flameblast elementalists.
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>>168888093
warlords blasphemy
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>>168888082

Did both. I dont like the offline one.
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poeplanner does load faster than official one and has the summary, so it's about a million times better
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Figured out that two The Pariah rings would be of great benefit for the build.

One with red socket for Anger or Vitality.
Second one with green socket for Haste.

>>168888270

I like it very much. Just need to figure out how to change socket colors. They are all white.
Or both with red sockets Anger + Vitality for that +200 life.
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>tfw you realize you've been doing stupid shit for very long
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>>168888165
this is relevant to my post, how?

degen doesn't care about your mom buffer, making it an ineffective form of defense
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>>168888465
have you ever played it before?
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>>168888509
>have you eaten shit before? so how do you know it tastes like shit?
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>>168888575
i won a demi with it, retard

fuck off
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not an argument
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They need to make a belt that gives Iron Reflexes.

That vanguard belt that Ziggy designed is rubbish.

A better one would be:
+50 Life
Gain 20% more physical damage reduction when on low life
Iron Reflexes.

And a modifier that prevents oneshots.

Now thats a worthy unique belt.
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im back playing
surrender gladiator
halp me where do i path
i have an abyssus for some reason
no weapon using facebreakers as a crutch dps
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>>168889709
interesting tree
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>i have an abyssus for some reason
sh*tcrow
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>>168889918
its completely fuccked i had something in mind but cant remember i think i tried to copy alkaizer
>>168889986
oh i forgot theres those faggots in the threads that dont quote
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>>168889709
disgusting image

delete this immediately
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This tree is bait right?
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>that pathing
>skipping jewel sockets
>unwavering stance
>+30 stat nodes
I don't think this shit casual general is for me anymore, peace
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so do i just nuke the build and try again?
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Could someone give me the lore in short. I've only rushed through the game so I want to know what I've missed. Thx.
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>>168840248
doesn't equate to shit. they're 200% better MAGIC items, AKA garbage.
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>>168890235
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/History_of_Wraeclast
>>
One of my favorite things is when some retard sees a streamer's end game setup, but doesn't understand why and how it works, then tries to copy paste his current skill tree without any of the gear and without enough levels, or better yet, tries to actually level with the end game tree and skills, then comes to poeg to cry about the "shit build" or ask for help.

Always gives me a hearty chuckle.
>>
can anyone give me a 5l queen of the forest
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>>168890289
it was actually me trying to merge two builds together and i just fucked it up hard and gave up on the build
i can still afk and not die so the build worked but it has no focus
>>
>>168890262
>in short
Yeah, okay, t-thanks.
>>
>>168890235
Vaal are the first to use the gems on Wraeclast, queen Atziri uses them and human sacrifice to cause an apocalypse called The Fall while trying to reach godhood. They built the pyramid you see in Act 2 and the construct that serves as the act boss.

The Azmeri, tribal people who had known the Vaal, build the city of Sarn on the Vaal ruins and spread the Eternal Empire. Use of the gems is forbidden but remains a part of society practiced by Thaumaturgists. Malachai was the head thaumaturgist for the final emperor, Chitus. He embedded gems in slaves to create gemling workers and soldiers as well as the gemling queen Lady Dialla who you meet in act 3.

High Templar Voll, disgusted at the use of the gems and the corruption of the empire, gathers allies within the empire and among it's neighbouring nations. The Karui lead by Kaom, the Ezomytes led by Rigwald and the Maraketh led by Deshret. The Revolution of Purity begins.

Voll seized control of the empire after Chitus's assasination and the massacring of the legions. He outlaws thaumaturgy but is convinced to let Malachai live so that he may construct a machine to destroy the gems once and for all in the Highgate mines. This machine, the Rapture Device, was secretly designed to merely smash open the barrier to the birth place of the gems so that Malachai could absorb their power and become god. You use this machine with Dialla, it's intended fuel, to gain access to the belly of the beast in act 4.
>>
(cont'd)

So Malachai succeeds, merges with the beast and brings about a second apocalypse called the cataclysm. Voll dies powerless with his legion at the entrance to the mines, Kaom is driven insane and butchers his own people and the land of Wraeclast becomes Malachai's personal hell.

The island of Oriath lies just off the coast of Wraeclast and was settled by the Empire during it's expansion. In the 300 years since the cataclysm the island and its capital hold on to their culture, the current high templar Dominus ruling the nation with an iron fist. Exiling political, petty and violent criminal alike to Wraeclast, a practical death sentence. You are one of these exiles.

Piety, prostitute and aspiring thaumaturgist, convinces Dominus to lead a campaign on Wraeclast to claim the power of the gems for himself. Both of them meet their fate in Act 3 after they setup in what remains of Sarn.
>>
>>168859503
Realm Ender?
>>
I'm thinking of making a oros cyclone slayer as league starter in legacy. Good idea or not? Give me opinions bros
>>
terrible idea
>>
>>168891060
I don't see why not
>>
>>168889709
Look at this tree *black man laughter*
>>
>>168891249
Why? I haven't played it before and oros is really cheap. I just want good clear speed with my first char he doesn't have to do t16s
>>
>>168891652
every item in the game is cheap

only the links matter, any expensive 6 link is like 1ex more than a "cheap" item and by the time you're paying 6ex you should be able to wait a little longer to pay 7 anyway
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fuck it I don't have anything to do so I'm gonna play d3 for next 2 weeks
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see you in 30 minutes
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>>168892460
You're completely wrong but okay
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>there are people ITT who won't be playing the SSF HC league
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>>168894574
>playing before 10 acts
l a m o
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>unironically playing SSF
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>playing after xbox patch goes live
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>playing
if your build doesn't clear the entire fucking map just by holding whatever button you have your main skill bound to, then it's a shit build
>>
>>168895220
Well that has been the meta for how long now? Every fucking good build instakills a screen then moves on and repeats. What a skillful and fun game. GGG ruins Discharge for CoC/Mjolner yet self-cast does the same instakill shit and many other builds do effectively the same shit.

Genius.
>>
>>168895782
I don't know, I posted that ironically
I already know oro's flicker is pretty much playable on standby, but I don't know about other builds
>>
>>168895782
>GGG ruins Discharge for CoC/Mjolner
>Still thinking they nerfed those cause they were OP
It's just that Xbone wouldn't be able to handle it desu.
>>
>>168896134
it was causing a lot of server strain
>>
>>168896134
Why though? They didn't fix it, they simply ruined it completely. I'm not some Mjolnerfag or whatever, I just hate how lazy devs usually are and simply do Riot's "lel let's just ruin x/y/z :^)"
>>
ggg said that they will revisit mjolner idiots
>>
>>168896209
>>168896250
Why put all the work to make the game able to handle CoC/Mjolnir discharge if the xbone won't be able to handle it at all?Just nerf!
>>
Revisit just means "Stop talking about it, it's never coming back."
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discharge was a mistake
automatic charge-stacking->discharge builds kill the servers and the fucking skill itself is hard on the graphics card too
>>
>>168896395
Garbage engine + xbone is a mistake entirely.

>>168896458
Garbage engine.
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>>168896458
>automatic charge-stacking
That's another funny one.They removed the auto-charge map mods cause apparently that strained the servers too and with that decision completely gutted an already situational node,Claws of the Magpie.There's absolutely no reason to get this one now.
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>>168896317
Source it.
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>>168896608
>Garbage engine.
B-But cloth physics and new water effects!
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>>168896643
good
fucking hated those mods
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>>168897019
I'm neither for or against removing those.What baffles me is that they completely ignored the Magpie node and didn't buff it accordingly,their balancing team really sucks (but then again they barely play the game).I just hope that by the time 3.0 hits they'll either buff or remove that node (yeah,for some reason it triggers me).
>>
>>168897557
they said they'd buff one-handers right? we'll see what happens
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>tfw /poeg/ will never have 6 people in the top 10 of a HC league ever again
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>>168897845
>they said they'd buff one-handers right
Yeah,and aside from a general one-hand buff they specifically mention 1-h sword and claw clusters so it's possible.

I wonder if they saw my claw node feedback topic desu.
>>
being proud of the achievements of others than yourself is fucking pathetic

grow up
>>
first of all i was one of those top 6
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anyone got a pic of the updated stats of the ngamahu ring come 2.6? I remember seeing it somewhere but now I can't find it
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cool? so make it to top 10 again instead of lamenting that others won't be, loser
>>
CAW
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second of all i WOULD be top 10 again but the problem is i simply don't want to because it's a lot of hard work; long days, no sleep, barely time to eat, shit, exercise. life while trying to win at poe is rough make no mistake

third of all the playerbase in general has gotten a lot better while i've stayed the same
>>
QoLfags should play clicker hero while watching someone play real games.
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>>168897942
>>168898008
>>168898106
>>168898185
>>168898228
>>168898350
>>168898419
>>168898420
Here's your (You)s btw.
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thoughts on drillneck/slivertongue deadeye lightning arrow?

If your pierce chance is "always" then does drillneck even work
>>
>>168898593
thanks, heres your new thread btw >>168898637
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