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Both tournaments have over the minimum amount of players edition!

>New rotation information
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356

> /hsg/ Tournament Information
25 BATTLENET BUCKS GRAND PRIZE
Date: Feb. 24-26
EU Time: 2pm EST / 19:00 GMT
NA Time: 6pm EST / 23:00 GMT
Estimated time: 4 hours per day
Sign-up closed at: Feb. 20 - 11:59pm EST / Feb. 21 - 4:59 GMT
Format: Conquest, Bo5
Stream: twitchDOTtv/axolotlhooves
Streamer Battletag: AxolotlAndy#1798

>NA Entry Form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWgLm4nNqzprlQVKZEKGYNLav4tRDpMz1QXqYNV6lTtwLcDQ/viewform

>EU entry form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeo-O3Z5cQJEjS56l8K5Dhq8m2GkydybKkeiBFCXuN0tNuTQQ/viewform

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://discord.gg/m8F3YeZ

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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>>168599734
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reminder that if you don't watch the hsg tourney that's pretty disappointing because it's a fun community thing and i think you will regret it later
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>>168686183
will do brother, queuing it now. have a fun meme list in return, it also gets surprising win rates.
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reminder that for the first expansion you are gonna have gold and dust and it seems alright
for the next expansion you won't have had 8 months to save up and you will run into trouble
by the time the third expansion comes around you will be sad because you're so low on currency

make sure you realize this right now so you can fight for change!
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>>168686689
>make sure you realize this right now so you can fight for change!

Yeah change to another game :^)
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>tfw you realize year of the mammoth relates to the size of the strap on ben brode equips to fuck the playerbase in the ass with
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>>168686689

I'm just hoping for more red bull packs
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4
PERSON
BALANCE
TEAM
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>>168686501
>>168686430
Neat, will try it. Heres some tip. Barnes is get tempo by himself turn 3-4 but fucking great if you got shadowstep/toxin set up. Brann+shadowcaster is great for dropping tiny branns beside high value stuff even if you dont double battlecry so you can bait removal. Possibly my favorite thing to do, sylv + shadow strike, they never see it coming. The deck is super top heavy, so mull aggressively for low drops.
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>>168686801
Of which 3 people are from accounting and HR who play custom brawls with Brode.
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>>168686801

At least it's an even number, easier to balance :^)
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>>168686837
i was going to ask why barnes was there because it seemed shit. But it makes sense with those other points. Enjoy dragon burgle memes, Shaku is pretty shit desu he's there instead of a second blackwing technician just because it's kind of fun. technician is probably better sadly
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>>168687069
Im all for memes over efficiency. I'll add him in when i get a bit more dust
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>everyone crafts hall of fame legendaries
>blizz changes their mind and makes them give out only the regular dust value
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>>168687254
then we proceed to cut ben brode's head

easy huh?
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>>168687254
C'mon son, you know there is 0 probability of that after the announcement.
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>>168687360
But shelter and food! Blizzdrones would justify just like the last 2 years of bullshit.
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>>168686414

>tfw want to join /hsg/ tournament but just know by the time it comes around i'll be tired and not want to play and i'll regret signing up
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>>168687634
tfw I joined hs eu tourny
and I dont even know the rules
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>>168687798
Neither does the tourney
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>>168687634

I might join and just play silly meme decks
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>>168686873
And then when they invite pros to balance with them they don't fucking listen
Case in point, lifecoach and pirate warrior
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>>168687634
it's what happened to me first tourney LMAO
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>>168687886
>>168687634
Just do it. I signed up and will just play meme decks. I'm fucking rank 16 anyway, who cares. It's a friendly casual meme tournament.
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Signed up for the EU tourney

Get ready for my bounce rogue
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>>168688571
bouncing blade? is the tournament wild?
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So what is going to replace azure drakes in non tribal decks?
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>>168688645

No idea senpai

I don't know when we submit our decks either
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>>168688571
Wincon?
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>>168688656
Azure Drakes are a Classical.

Are classicals going to be rotated?
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>>168688656
Nothing
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>>168688738
Have you not been keeping up with the news at all anon?
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>>168688645
>>168688703
I'll ask the tourney guy when I see him. I was wondering if it would be the case. Add the battle.net account, I got asked to submit my card ban yesterday but I gotta read up on the conquest format a little bit.

If I clarified some stuff for myself I'll try to update the OP if I get to post it.
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>>168688748
Cantrip, spell damage, solid body, tribal, generous cost, two in each deck. Really was our mvp.
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>>168688713

Mill
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>>168688865
Kek. Go get em, champ
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>>168688861
And every other 5 drop was to shit to see play
And they are still too shit to see play
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>>168688738
Azure drakes were deemed too fun for hearthstone and removed from standard, along with sylv and rag.
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>>168686689
If we're not among the people horking up cash, why would they care what we think?
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>>168689090
There's nothing fun about it, it's just a good card. I doo agree that Team5 hates fun though since the few fun cards this set like Dirty Rat or Weasel Tunneler are all epic which is bullshit.
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behold, the replacement for azure drake
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>>168688994
>spell damage and card draw is too strong combined
>tfw Thalnos is heading into the hall of fame next

Can't wait until only shit cards are left in classic.
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Do you feel bad when you play against an obvious new player who only has some classic cards?
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>>168689496
A 5 cost 4/4 cantrip would be enough but even then, brode would fucking stab a child.
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>>168689405
the choices for good/bad cards in epic and legendary honestly baffle me sometimes
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>Azure drake is in every deck ever, including aggro
>b-but the card is fine why are they removing it! They hate fun!
Fun is not getting the same card getting played every game
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>>168689496
>4 mana 7/7 wars flashback.
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>>168689647
How many azure drakes do you run in pirate warrior?
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>>168689547
Thalnos is fine since the 2 mana slot is incredibly competitive. I reckon their logic is "you can replace Thalnos with a Kobold Geomancer or a Loot Hoarder so he's fine" or something along those lines.

I find it amusing that Leeroy is untouched, but when you think about it he's really just an upgraded Reckless Rocketeer with a more narrow use as a finisher.
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>>168689686
2 in the Dragon version
and 1 in Aggro shaman

"every deck ever" is a hyperbole obviously but it's not that far off reality
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So basically theres no point to craft ANY classic lego right now because its doomed to become wild?
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>>168689769
You can craft anything other than Sylvanas and Rag.
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>>168689769
sure why not

if y'all can't read then neither can i
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>>168689714
Leeroy was nerfed already, at 6 mana it would be hot garbage - that's why they decided to nerf PO instead

I guess they could make it spawn more welps but that wouldn't matter that much

>>168689769
>>168689827
if you craft Sylvanas or Rag you'll get a refund when Hall of Fame happens
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>>168689647
>including aggro
maybe don't give aggro a shit ton of burn spells and even a fucking weapons that synergizes with it???
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>>168689769
If you don't have gold sylv and rag, craft them, if you do listen to >>168689827
Oh by the way
There also rotating out conceal, PO, and ice lance
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>>168689895
Balancing Leeroy by adding more whelps would be like balancing Patches by increasing his mana cost
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Is anyone else autistically bothered by the fact that Mage, Rogue and Warlock are now down by three classic class cards?

I feel they should've removed one common from each set just to make it even despite it being pointless.
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>>168689959
>ice lance
>not ice block
I will never not be mad at this
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>>168689769
>only Worth legos of Classical

>Any Class only, like Antonidas, Jaxx or Faith in the Light.
>The Dragons with the exception of Ropebane and Deathwing
>Millhouse
>Museumen
>Leeroy if he isn't going to get nuked to the hall as he probably deserves
>Thalnos


That's literally the ones left worth crafting really.
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>>168690049
Freeze Mage and Reno Mage are dying next set so nobody's going to play it anymore anyway.
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>>168690035
What would they even rotate out for preist and paladin?
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>>168690125
Freeze mage will find a way. They always do
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What if they just rotated part of the classic set to wild and the other part to basic?
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>>168690125
And Handlock probably, the current meta makes him get too punched for it to recover without Reno. But lets see, my bet its that we'll get Aggro hunter back anyway.
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>>168690187
They lost a large source of burst and can't just run exodia
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>>168689932
I'm not sure if I agree that aggro shouldn't have a lot of burn, Spirit Claw is cancer tho

>>168690031
hence the "that wouldn't matter much"
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>>168690193
Too many Jews for that to happen
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>>168690181
put mind control back to 8 mana then rotate it
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>>168690181
>we felt that northshire cleric was used into too many decks and must be rotated out, along with truesilver. Shaman however is getting a reduced cost truesilver just cause
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>>168690275
Sounds like something Ben would do
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>>168690181
I don't care, they can just do something nobody uses like Blessing of Wisdom and Lightspawn or Temple Enforcer.

The problem in messing with the classic set is that so many of the cards are absolutely vital to the whole "class identity" thing they're always going on about.
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>>168690287
>Shaman however is getting a reduced cost truesilver just cause
Make it 3 mana Overload (1) because Overload is extremely penalizing mechanic and shaman class theme needs more support :^)
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>>168690035
>Take away balanced cards from everyone else to be 'fair'
Fuck that
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>>168690465

>brode: these cards are too balanced, thats why we removed them
>they didnt even try a nerf this time
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Blade of C'thun might be my favourite card
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>>168690353
Fuck off, I like Blessing of Wisdom
Great on something early in a bubble, or to put it on an enemy minion to deter it from attacking. At 1 mana, its hard to waste
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>>168690401
Don't for get an extra durability and 2 extra attack for spell power
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>>168690542
Brode only knows how to sledgehammer nerf. Let those cards pass on with their dignity intact.
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T-Thanks for the amazing new quests Blizzard. This will surely help make up for the additional 8000 gold deficit a third expansion will incur to just barely scrape up a couple not-shit decks.
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>>168690550
>they leave it on the field to play a fatty
>mfw
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>>168690465
Ice Lance is hardly balanced and as even Ben Brode pointed out it doesn't let Team5 make spell copy and spellpower cards for mage because of cheap burst potential.
Conceal is a fun and interactive card.
I don't agree on PO. It's flavorful and makes sense in combos with deathrattles or Shadowflame. It's the last nail in the coffin of future zoo decks. It should've been nerfed for fast and combo decks and remain in Classic set.
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>>168690690

>they think they're safe
>shadowstep, Brann, play it again

>then they think they're definitely safe
>play a second Blade

>ok now I must be safe to play a big minion
>Vanish
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>>168690812
Dont forget brann shadowcaster for 2 more casts
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why wasn't spirit claw a rogue card
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Why don't they just give secrets to Rogue?
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>>168690812
>they drop a sylv thinking he smart
>blade targetting a faceless that copies sylv
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>Have Reno Lock deck for Warlock Quests
>Reno Mage for Mage Quests
>Anyfin Paladin for Paladin Quests
>Jade Druid for Druid Quests
>Jade Shaman for Shaman Quests
>Dragon Priest for Priest Quests
>Jade Rogue for Rogue Quests
>N'ozth Hunter for Hunter Quests

>Login today
>Get 7 Warrior win Quest
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>>168690880
Rogues aren't allowed to have good weapons
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>>168690927
Cause rogue is doomed to roundabout meme wincons
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>no more adventures

Laaaaaaaaame
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>>168689564
yes
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>>168690927
Because paladin needs more thematic cards
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>>168691135
like how did they not have a gimmick planned for Paladin
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>>168691207
They could give paladin access to some armor and it would solve so many design problems
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Does /hsg/ fight dirty?
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>>168691284
>the dragon is the one without buffs
Kek
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>>168691276
Was always surprised divine shield wasn't a Paladin-only mechanic
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Priest should be move in and out of shadowform at any time for 1 mana
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Why doesn't Hearthstone sell preconstructed decks?

>sell them for gold or dosh for jewry
>viabledeck at a fixed price with fixed cards
>give new players a free deck when joining
>release hot new decks with each expansion

Would it not fix a lot of the game's problems? Better than that deck recipe bullshit nobody likes at least.
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>shaman
>best neutral heal
>best weapons
>best gang from streets
>best vanilla statted minions
>best legendary from the classic set(allahu'akbir was the highest win% card in beta and early 2014)
>best hero power synergy cards
>best low cost single and boardwipe spells

what did team 5(five) mean by this
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>>168691569
even sv does this
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>>168691569

Brode mentioned they were thinking of that either in the first Q/A stream or somewhere else recently.

They will be blizzard tier pricing though, I'd expect each to be around $15-$20
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>>168691631
Always thought it was a touch of Metzen's Shaman-boner at work
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>>168691631
>Worst Hero Power
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>>168691631
Shaman used to be garbage tier untill LoE.
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>>168691712
>shaman hero power
>bad
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>>168691631

>all these bonuses
>still gets crushed by face hunter

Greeting traveler
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>>168691712
Lies. Puts down useful bodies that (mostly) can't be flicked away by the 1-damage powers.
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>>168691819
Yeah, there was a time when it was the worst one. It was really obvious during the time justicar was used
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Why is rogue so cucked. Can only win games if you do not roll 30 rogue cards.

AIot of other classes can get wins with only class cards decks. Rogue get nerfed. Good job blizz you really fucking hate rogue. most nerfed class in the game.

Bring back rogues hero power and make it the face class with hunter and put warrior back on the controle list! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI
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>>168691792

it was shit for just over 1 year, it was the GOAT botting class from release to naxx when hunter killed it off then came back after loe with the burst deck and managed to be best class from then all the way up to now

pally is more dead than shaman ever was
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>>168691334
Fuck dragons, pit fighter's where it at.
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>>168691925
You are nowhere near as bad as hunter and paladin. Stop bitching, roguefag.
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>>168691925

>it's a play 10 combo card quest
>only have to log in for about 5 minutes for that day
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>>168691925
Reminder blizzard is going to remove the only viable deck rogue has and will only force more burgle shit in the future

Maiev just adds insult to injury
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>>168691925

Shadowstep C'thun Rogue is the most fun deck in the game
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Golden mana wyrm looks sweet. Pretty sure it could be a viable card with conceal.
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>>168692818
Don't worry anon, conceal was limiting design space too much for our cool and fun Burgle Rogue deck so we migrated it to wild!!!
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this is a disgusting card
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OMGScoots is dead monkaS
OMGScoots is dead monkaS
OMGScoots is dead monkaS
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>>168693635
how will nevvilz recover
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>put elise in a deck
>it's in the last 3 cards everytime.
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>>168692095
SHUT UP
>>168692115
Hehehehe giggle
>>168692408
Dragon paladin with alot of heal is not so bad. Hunter with a bunch of face damage can still be played with only hunter cards.
>>168692558
i wish blade of c'thun was not a epic
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>>168693680
he's gonna be fine...
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>>168693502

>Play against 'non-transform class'
>Turn 5 coin brann into talonpriest
>Have fun dealing with 10 hp Brann and all my incoming BCs.
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>>168693502
Silence kills the priest
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>>168694030
It's ten times worse in Arena.

If a priest gets a 1 or 2 drop to stick then gets this it's game over
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>>168694158

>SIlence
>Name one silence that is actually played outside of maybe 1 spellbreaker and maybe 2 goldfish man in strange priest decks.
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Power overpowering is finally rotating out
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is this the most well-rounded, ladder friendly version of Cucktrol Warrior?

>inb4 Sleep with the Memes
too situational
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>>168694375

>rotating po just as peddler rotates

I thought it was mainly peddler that enabled retarded shit
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>>168694268
Silence is in most decks a minion you can buff minions in alot of decks. Like paladin but hsg hates paladin.
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>>168694584
but sleep with the memes is like auchenai circle and you have 4 whirlwind effects
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>>168694673
It's against Blizzard's curvestone philosophy to have to play around 20 potential damage from hand with one emporer tick. And they tend to nerf cards once they rotate out because they're retarded
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>>168694673
only guaranteed soulfires now friend, get ready for the true rng fun
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>>168694375
>Reno is fucking off
>Half the dragon range is fucking off
>Troggs AND Golems are fucking off
A new dawn rises
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>introduce jade mechanic
>no combo druid to help counter it
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Level5
>We don't like combo deck
>Hearthstone next patch you can play max 1 card at turn.

Are they retarded to not like combo in card game ?
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>>168695739
what the fuck you're not supposed to use your brain and think of a counter you're supposed to play the OP deck yourself
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>>168695198
It's rotating with PO, in wild you'll get a lot more cards, mostly trash.
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If I put Explorers hat on a minion and it dies does N'zoth summons it back?
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How long until Abyssal Enforcer is removed from arena? This shit is fucking busted. It probably won't ever be removed because it's single handedly responsible for Warlock viability.
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>>168696265
No, N'zoth only summons cards that have Deathrattle as their default card text (which is why he will still resummon Deathrattles that have been silenced).
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Is there any point in signing up for the /hsg/ tournament if I'm a very mediocre player?

I would like to bring some janky meme decks but I'm like a rank 13 shitter at best. Is there a fee to join or is it free? Will the tourney be all Tier S shit like aggro shaman pirate warrior and jade druid or will people be using "off-meta" decks?
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Will Patrons make a comeback to stop the Jade menace?
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>>168696265
no
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>>168696667
>Is there any point in signing up for the /hsg/ tournament if I'm a very mediocre player?
yes /hsg/ is /shieldbearergeneral/ so rank 13 is not as bad as you might think

>Is there a fee to join or is it free?
of course it's free

>Will the tourney be all Tier S shit like aggro shaman pirate warrior and jade druid
card bans (not revealed yet) will ensure aggro shaman and pirate warrior won't be played
jade druid is a bad deck but the shieldbearers will probably ban it anyway
generally at least a third-half of the tournament will be meme decks
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>>168695739
>nerf fun and interactive things by rotating P.O, Ice Lance and Conceal
>don't put Auctioneer in the Hall of Fame
>Jade Druid completely unfettered

Welp I guess infinite Jade Golem cycle is on the menu, boys. The best way to beat Jade was to kill it before they get the Fandral/Auctioneer/Idol spam via aggro or combo combo. Control will never match the value of 1 mana 11/11, 12/12, 13/13 that lets Druid invalidate Fatigue burn damage. Someone even asked on Reddit if they tested how strong Druid will be post-nerfs/rotation and the Team 5 dude said he "predicts" it'll be okay because they actually didn't test anything.

What the fuck is Team 5 doing?
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>>168696805
sweet. I'll add myself to the list in a bit then. Thanks for assuaging my fears <3

btw is /hsg/ really that bad on average? I always feel nervous posting screenshots because of my rank.. everyone talks about rank 5 and legend shit all the time
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>>168696839

>tfw the jade mechanic was a false flag so they can justify putting in even more aggro tools to counter it
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>>168696943
it was an exaggeration of course but the quality of play and deckbuilding in these tournaments has usually not been too great
of course there are good players too and those who win are generally playing strong decks but bringing meme decks is far from a death sentence
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>>168696667
Dude I'm fucking rank 16, It's a friendly tournament relax. Nobody cares if you're a dogshit player like myself.

Unless you're a special snowflake who can't handle some banter from people watching.
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>>168696943

the shitters i've added from here range from rank 20 to legend

i used to get legend every month until midshaman took over and now i'm a shitter at 10-15 that just plays meme decks
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>>168696943
and post screenshot no matter your rank
I've posted screens from r500 legend and rank 17 and most ranks in between and nobody seems to care either way
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>>168696951
You're probably right. Since we're going full jew with three expansions I wouldn't be surprised if they print at least a dozen Epic and Legendary quality combo/aggro tools so you'll be forced to blow your gold load and cash monies on packs to either gamble on unpacking them or dusting everything to craft them.

Personally I can't wait for Hunter to get crazy shit like a 2 mana "discover a card in your deck, put two copies in your hand and discard the others" or "if you have a beast, give all beasts in your hand +3/+3".
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>>168696943
Remember where you are my man. 90% of the appeal of /vg/ is being able to shitpost without some cocksucking mod dickriders telling you to say nice things to everyone.

People will shit on people for not being high enough legend even if they are legend at all.
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Do you BM people who don't play around anything in arena? On one hand they provide wins more often. On the other hand their "me go face" mentality triggers me and I feel the need to rope and emote the shit out of them.
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>Echo of Mediev from a CRYSTALS FRASH FROM KAZAKUS!
>When your hand is empty and have four minions now on the board

Is there better value? Just cuck'd a paladin out of a win with that.
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>>168696039
Instead of nerfing combo decks they have deleted them entirely because it's against their curvestone philosophy and not "interactive"
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>>168697258

they need a tempo 2 drop minion now that they're losing quick shot
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>>168696943
Yeah the average player here is pretty bad or doesnt play seriously anymore. I used to get legend/rank 5 every month but now i just hit rank 20 to get my cardback until next expansion comes out.
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>>168697352

Arena before anyone thinks I'm a wild player...
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>>168697089
>>168697109
>>168697176
>>168697203
>>168697317

thanks guys. guess I was worrying over nothing. gonna think of some ultimate meme decks to use now

>>168697352
some mage got a DOOM! from CRYSTALLS FRESH FROM KAZZZAKUS while I was playing beast/buff druid and had like 7 minions w/ violet teacher and soul of the forest + double lotus on all of them

they milled 11 cards and still won b/c of brann+kaza potion shenanigans
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>Play against Dragon Priest
>He OPs Jade Idol
>Emotes me
Poor little Priestcuck, doesn't even know
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warlock right?
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>>168697825

yes
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>>168697849
thanks.

first round and I already have a good feeling about this

btw how many Abyssal Enforcers should I draft if I get offered more than one? it's a Common card so it's probably pretty frequently offered right?
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>>168696943
There were two guys that posted a bit a while back that seemed to get top 100 often. Pythagoras and someone else who I forget. I think the most vocal people on /hsg/ are the rank 15 scrubs who are mad that their opponents sometimes play decks that counter theirs.
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>>168697976

Draft literally every one.
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>>168697976
All of them.
Highly unlikely you will be offered more than 4.
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>>168690939

> I'm in charge now

You're free in 20 minutes.
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Out of curiosity what is /hsg/s current rank, best rank all time, and favourite deck (current and historically)?
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>>168698209
>>168698259

I LITERALLY GOT OFFERED NONE this game is bullshit. I did get offered Blastcrystal 6 times though.

>>168698174
top 100 is pretty awesome. also lol.
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Should I go for legend boys? I'm rank 2 at the moment but it's pretty uninspiring.
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>>168696943
You will either get made fun of for not being legend, or being "dumpster tier" legend.

Being rank 25 through 1 means nothing anymore. If someone wants to shit on you by calling out your rank, they will try no matter what it is.
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>>168698605

If you've never been, yes.
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>>168698605

no, once you get it the carrot is gone and you slowly stop playing the game, literally happened to everyone on my friends list
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>>168700173
kill yourself you annoying faggot
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>>168700173

Fuck off with your shitty youtube channel
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>>168700276
>>168700289
It's time to just start reporting it until he gets banned for spamming his garbage.
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>>168700173
i like it
cool video btw
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>>168700173
It's kinda sad to see people too late to the party employ the same clickbait thumbnails and failing miserably.
If only that faggot had come earlier in Hearthstones lifespan, he ,too, could have made a living out of it.

Alas, he missed his opportunity and must now wait for the next yugely hyped title to release.
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>draw patches turn 1
>still win
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>>168700548
maybe i m not good but it s not clickbait . thx for the comment though>>168700534
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>>168700671
>playing patches
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>draft 1 abyssal
>guaranteed 5 wins
>draft 2
>guaranteed 7
>draft 3+
>12

why did everyone whine so hard at firelands yet nobody complains about this beyond retarded card
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>>168700969
Mage was insane in arena at that time.
Warlock was shit in arena before that.

It seems like circumstances actually matter. Who would have thought that.

Also facehunter when piloted and drafted right wins over that. You get the warlock too low on health so the can't safely play the thing because of face damage.
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>hand reading
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>>168700969

replace draft with draft+draw and you're right.
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hct is starting up

i'm looking forward to decks of the aggro, midrange and singleton variety
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If blizz doesn't release top 100 arena next month for some reason I'm going to be furious. 30 fucking runs is excruciating.
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how many decks do I need for meme tourney
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jesus christ admirable lost a lot of weight

it's also cute that they are having him stand on a box so he's similar in height to the other 2
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can someone point m in the righdirection for a good rogue deck?

I Can't seem to make anything buy shit
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>chubby girl on stream

disgusting
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>>168702747

someone should have told her that her top is supposed to accompany jeans or chinos

she looks stupid
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>european caster
>handsome, well dressed
>american casters
>looks like his mum bought his cloths from target and are one size too big
>the female caster is like an animal in heat next to lothar

what the hell did they mean by this
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>>168702426
Something like this.

It was built without Conceal but thats going to be Wild only soon anyways.

Good luck with Edwin and Leeroy, they literally make the deck. If you don't have Edwin, then do 2x Questing Adventurer. Leeroy Cold Blood(s) have won me the game way too many times.
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>>168687798
>Best of 5, you have to win 3 of 5 potential matches.
>Conquest, when you win with a deck, you cannot play with that deck anymore
>1-deck ban, you bring four classes and get to ban one class from your opponent's lineup for the series
>Single Elimination, you lose once you're out
>And if you offend the cardbans you're forced a rematch with Wisps and Tinyfins

>>168688703
You do not submit decks, you submit classes.

>>168688645
Noh. I'm rather certain that "Bounce Rogue" insinuates the use of Pandas and Shadowstep.

>>168702267
Four

>>168696667
>Is there any point in signing up for the /hsg/ tournament if I'm a very mediocre player?
A Mexican Furry of roughly your skill level won my last tournament

>Is there a fee to join or is it free?
I do it for FREE

>Will the tourney be all Tier S shit like aggro shaman pirate warrior and jade druid or will people be using "off-meta" decks?
I am rather confident that the community will do a good job of banning critical cards to these decks. The most "cancer" deck we saw last time was Zoo, and that got swept in the Final.
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>>168703114
>Mexican Furry

Wait is that the youtube guy that has like hundreds of thousands of subs for steven universe translations? I've seen him post on 4chan before, just not here exactly
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>have enough dust to create precisely one legendary
>I could create a deck defining one such as Aya, who is needed for Jade, or Kazakus who is vital for one-of decks
>or I could create an important neutral card I'm missing like Thalnos or Leeroy
>or I could use it for a vital single-class legendary, such as Tirion
>or I could craft something "fun"
>or I could save it for whatever crazy strong legendary the Un'goro expansion brings
>but I can choose one option
Pretty tough decision desu senpai
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>>168703379
I am rather certain they are not the same person.
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>>168703114
>Best of 5 Conquest
>Single Elimination

Did you just copypaste something without reading all of it?
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why did no one mention the tournament going on
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Renolock vs Renomage

So interes-zzzzzz
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>>168703746
Why, did I not type something correctly?
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>>168703114
mfw i got the worst possible discard rng every time
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>>168703440
Craft Patches. He will be certainly nerfed and you will get your dust back.

Do you have Sylvanas or Rag? If not craft one of them. You basically get them for free or earn 400 dust after the expansions hits.
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>>168703878

literally mentioned multiple times
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>>168704085
Bo5, I need win 3 times
How do I win 3 times if I win once and it's over since Single Elimination and opponent lost once
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>>168704150
Already got all three of those, Patches was shamefully the first thing I crafted this expansion.
Looking forward to that free 3200 dust when the next thing comes out, that'll catch me up a little.
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>>168704085
He's saying that those things together make no sense in the way you wrote them.
Single elimination means 1 loss and your out.
Best of 5 means you're out only after your 3rd loss to the same opponent.
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>>168704150
>certainly nerfed
To what, exactly? With STB the nerf was obvious, but Patches has such a small and tight design that there really isn't anywhere for them to go smaller with the card. Patches is rather balanced imo, and the real problem was STB.

>>168704303
Ah.
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>>168704282
im not talking about the /hsg/ tournament
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>>168704404
>To what, exactly?
It's a joke.
That's what people were saying before Ben suggested that STB will be nerfed. A lot of people here were saying how Patches is a safe craft since he will be nerfed and you get your dust back.
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>>168704303
Single Elimination doesn't mean if you lose one game you're out but one set. It just means you only have one life in the tournament.
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>>168704752
Did I ask for your opinion? No. Fuck off and don't reply to me or my posts ever again.
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>>168703114
>Cardbans

Wait a minute nobody told me anything about cardbans
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They had all of EU prelims to watch the OBS tutorial, there's no excuse for the production to still be so fucking bad.
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>>168704925
Did you win the RNG?
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>>168703114
so am I not allowed to bring 4 rogue decks?
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>>168705012
Blizzard diversity hires
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>>168704286
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>>168704873
Intelligent posting.
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>>168704891
Yeh. We got cardbans. It's how we filter out the cancer lel. Don't worry, they'll be sorted out before Monday's over on my end.
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>>168705240
Yes, you are not allowed to bring four Rogue decks. You must bring four decks from four different classes.
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>>168705380
How are the signups coming along my man? Going better than you expected?
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>Tune in
>Firebat 0-2
Wow. What a fun game.
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>>168705380
But we still playin in Standard and wild right?
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>We gonna be rich
:^)
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>>168705672
*and NOT wild
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>topdeck heal for 25

So skill, what a good game xD

I can't wait for reno to be removed from the game, such a stupid card.
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>>168705426
i will sadly have to bring shaman then
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>>168705801
The fact that there is a deck that forces you to topdeck a 25 heal on turn 6 says a freaking lot about the state of the game.

This isn't freaking yugioh.
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Is Karazhan worth buying anymore?
It seems like only three or four cards are still being used.
>Spirit Claws (soon to be nerfed)
>Netherspite Historian (most dragon cards are soon rotating out making its future dubious)
>Swashburglar
>Babbling book
>those hunter cards but hunter is dead right now
>??
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He should have just been better at the game desu
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>>168706010

It's a fun adventure still and hunter will be back soon
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>>168705672
We are, in fact, playing in Standard. It's just not feasible to assume a playerbase in /hsg/ willing to compete in tournaments that also has a solid-ish Wild collection.

>>168705651
13 NA have signed up and I think I missed adding a few.
15 EU have signed up and I've sent friend invites to all of them thusfar

>>168705869
Might wanna wait on decks you bring until the bans come out.
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>>168705780
he's looks a baby for some reason
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>>168706113
So how do we pick our individual card bans? Does every individual pick 1 standard card to ban and sends it to you on battlenet? Or do you have to send like a top 3 bans in order so you can sort out duplicate picks?
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>Noblord

Great another faggot reacting to every play and cant stop moving around
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>>168706474
The former. Discussing the cardban is also frowned upon, as it could influence the decisions of someone who hasn't selected theirs yet.
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Okay fuck i admit it Shadowverse is actually fun and good. I made an account 2 weeks ago and finished the Shadowcraft campaign and basically logged in today. I had like fucking 50 packs to open and after disenchanting some stuff i built a fully competitive deck for the class i wanted. Im honestly not a shill but im gonna go play Shadowverse for now and i honestly recommend the game to any anon thats sick of hearthstone
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>>168706537

>everyone picks patches
>only one card banned all tournament
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>>168706010
It's hard to call it worth paying for that shit, but those cards are needed. I wouldn't be able to justify throwing money to get it, but you really can't replace those cards with anything.
Firelands is an insane tempo swing.
Swashburglar is an early drop that activates Patches and gives you a card. Historian is a freaking must in every Dragon deck.
Hunter is dead but the class got good cards.
Maelstrom Portal coupled with Spirit Claw is what killed Zoo, the only real counter to Shaman pre-Kara.

Excellent cards, but too expensive.
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>this is the face of hearthstone
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>>168706635
If you declare to ban a card that has already been banned, you will be informed of the repeat and asked to select another.
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>First legendary I ever got in Sylvanas is being nerfed
>Rotating out low drop burst damage from Warlock, Mage and Rogue
>Rag taken out months after he's stopped being relevant
>Warrior and Shaman still untouched

So remind me why reddit is sucking Blizzard's cock about these changes?
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>>168706694

https://youtu.be/3kO6zb_TKek?t=171
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>>168706849
Any change is good change to Reddit at this moment.
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>>168706694
Why do bald people keep growing such long ugly beards? Is that some stupid way of compensating the lack of hair?
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>>168706694
It's the face of man making a living with commenting a joke of a competitive tournament in a children's card game. He's probably getting real high every day to live with this reality.
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>>168706849
For the same reason that they are sucking Blizzard's dick after they announced the game will be 40% more expensive from this year on and literally impossible to keep up with it as a purely f2p player.

Because they are a bunch of literally retarded people who think they are better than the rest because they are above all the petty and filthy subhumans that don't have +$400 of disposable income that they can give to papa Ben.
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>>168707072
It just completely fails in almost every sense of the word. It makes the game even harder to access for new/F2P players.

It's making changes months after they've been problems. Aggro is out of control at the moment, so when they finally touch the Classic set what do they rotate out? Mid-Late game drops and situational lethal drops for Mage and Warlock, because we should all just be forced into Shaman, Warrior, or Druid I guess
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I want to punch this fucking Noblord in the face
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>>168707273
Queue that retard in /hsg/ who keeps to try and argue that expansions have better value than adventures and calls everyone who doesn't agree redittors.
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>Its a caster can't spot lethal episode again
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>>168707482
i like that thats literally just one guy and literally everyone else here knows whats up
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>not playing around 0/7 demon with spell damage ;)
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>>168707561
Literally every playhearthstone stream
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>>168707482
Adventures are objectively more enjoyable and better value.

Each expansion always has a handful of decent cards, as does each adventure. For adventures, I can purchase individual wings, and if the last wing is shit (like it usually is with meme legendaries) I can save a few bucks.

The only way to get decent cards from expansions is to suck Blizzard's cock and throw money at them until you get it, which can cost 5x a standard adventure
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noblord is an ugly LOSER
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>>168707273
>>168707482
A lot of people here visit reddit as well so I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the idiots commenting how the change it great.

Here is some math how much you need just to keep up with the meta with more 2 decks. f2p is kill.
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well that's a first
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daily reminder
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>>168700787
well it s kinda clickbait but the leroy part on 9:59 was fun i guess.
really now how many times till you get it ?
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>>168706694
this fat clueless retard triggers me hard

Ive watched the tournament for 15 minutes and hes already been surprised and amazed by obvious lethal setups twice
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>>168707854
its a casting style dude are you new?
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>Fr0zen's picture is frozen still
Pottery
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>>168706849
>Mealstrom portal untouched
>Jade Lightning untouched
>>
Why is half the American players Asian?
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lmao that game
the renotard drew so bad he only played arcane int and dirty rat and then lost on turn 5 hahaha
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>>168708541
Great game blizzard
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>Lethal'd on turn 6

Wow the game is in such a great state :)
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>Frodan's bed hair

Come on Frodan.
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>>168708528
>>>/pol/
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>>168708050
No fuck off, being retarded on purpose should not be a "casting style". Theres a difference between exaggerated excitement in sports casting and being retarded and not seeing obvious plays.

this is like if a commentator in chess pretends to be amazed by a bog standard opening variant. Its retarded, and you are a retard if you think its ok.
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>>168708575
Turn 3 lethals were possible in classic though m8
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>>168708541
He played 2 removal spells and still lost on turn 5, aggro is out of control in this shit game.

>but hey guys, lets nerf ice lance, combo decks are cancer xDD
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>>168708639
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>Shaman 1/4's spell totem to clear my board with balanced portal
>1/4's taunt when I have lethal

Fucking delete this class
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>>168708651
youre probably right i tuned in late
ill just continue to defend on a lower level
spotting lethal can be tricky sometimes and makes can happen at times
if you spoil the viewer too much it can lead to no excitement so some way you gotta balance not taking that away

that said you are probably right that it was a mistake and he was legit surprised or something
>>
Can someone show Trump please how to use shampoo?
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>>168706849
they promised to give players a lot of free shit before next expansion
>>
R N G
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>>168708528

pc nerds are white and asian
console nerds are fgc-americans
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>>168709193
>Blizzard
>Giving players free stuff
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>>168709289
they just annouced daily login rewards, anon.
latest changes are not as bad as hsg thinks
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>>168709467
>they just annouced daily login rewards
Link please

also even if its true 5 dust per day tops.
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>>168707769
I didn't know that was even possible to show up
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>Trump can't even comb his fucking hair before appearing on TV
That is the face of a guy who is about to get JUSTed
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>>168709629
Leading up to the next rotation/xpac yeah, it was in the mammoth press release
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>>168709629
calm down
they are just for a limited time :^)
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>>168709745
Ok if I recall that post correctly they said "TEMPORARY rewards for logging in". Ofc theres the chance the rewards will be as "temporary" as Tavern Brawl rewards but higly unlikely.
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Admirable looks like such a midget now that he lost so much weight
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Wait, why does reddit hate amnesiac so much?
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>>168707273
>>168707482
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>>168709982
>lost so much weight
>still obese

Only in America
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>>168710114
Because Amnesica rightfully called Pavel a fucking lucker (which he is) and the pros don't like HS being exposed as an RNG sports so Reddit hates him. Also he whines a lot.
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>>168710114
Because he called out Pavel for being such a lucky shit.
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>>168709968
Yeah, I imagine they'd end after the event they lead up to. You've been able to quests with friends two weeks in a row currently. That'd be nice to stay permanently
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>>168710178
He moved from obese to overweight, honestly give the guy at least some credit, he lost prolly 70-80 pounds.
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>>168710228
>>168710239
>73% tournament winrate across more than 15 games
>World Champion and EU Winter Champion

Drinking your tears, yung cringelord can't even compete with Dr. Pavelheer.
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>favorite cards of designers
>8-mana board clear mentioned
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>>168710228
>exposed
hahaha all this autistic child did was get mad on twitter about "muh percentages" and "muh objectively correct plays"
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>favorite cards
>almost only legendaries
buy them they're cool ;)
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someone please send isis to these 2
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>>168710508
have you seen it's animation?
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>>168710503
*150 not 15

Also won the Kinguin Charity tournament last week.

Stay mad.
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>>168710114
Amnesiac is still suffering from puberty and is hence whiny.
>>
they are releasing 3, 130 card sets a year

would it be better/cheaper for players if they just released 2, 200 car sets a year? Since you would get less duplicates in a set with more cards?

Or would it be better if they released 8, 50 card sets a year?
>>
yung savage LMFAO
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>>168710503
Someone has to get lucky. Remember when Kolento had similar stats in tournaments?
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>>168710525
Amnesica is a fucking brat but he isn't wrong. Pavel is a huge shitter. Tbh HS is a shitters Esport.
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>>168710641
3 x 130 is fine.
>>
nice haircut LMAO
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>>168710709
thats not the point, the point is what is cheaper for players, having a lot of small sets or just a few big ones?

since the more packs you buy the more duplicates you get of 1 set
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>>168710641
The PERFECT, and I mean it PERFECT solution is.
130 card expansion
40 cards (5legos) are available throuh single player missions, and 90 cards through the card packs.
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Holy shit I hate muzzy the fucking muzzy muzzlim aggroshitter so much. When can blizzard fix their game so ultrashitters like him arent viewed as "great players"
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>>168710832
They might give you 2 free cards for doing the little story boss or whatever it's going to be and that will probably be it.
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>>168710114
they cant handle the truth if its not coated in a thousand layers of cuckholdry
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>>168710559

>favorite card
>all of them are unplayable outside of highly refined competitive decks because of aggro cancer

What did the developers mean by this?
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>>168710832
and doubling gold gain or cutting pack cost in half
rehaul the quest system so there is way more reason to play, like just add twice the amount of quests to get to this same point
and then add daily login rewards in the form of 50g per day forever to overall improve the p2play nature which already is shit currently
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savage rng
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reminder that when it's amnesiasc it's skill
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>>168711609
Yeah, RNG management is a skill unlike Pavel's RNG.

But seriously, he's a freaking 16 year old kid. Retarded posting on internet is to be expected.
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I fucked up /hsg/

I did the brawl a lot for one day but got bored of the mage deck. Now I found out the Paladin one is extremely easy to just get turn 1 wins over and over. I could've had like 500g but I squandered it. I might try to see if I can use sunday to monday night to get 100g for the monday before the reset.
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>>168711758
prep prep coin coin coin concede
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>>168711758
>aggro shaman above reno
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>>168711913
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Check out my OC, /hsg/!
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>>168711758
>reno actually took some skill to pilot correctly
>they added Kazakus and a bunch of OP shit for the kabal classes
>now it's as braindead as facehunter
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>>168711929
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>>168711929
It is.
Reno currently is on part with Pirate warrior. Play the green cards and hope to survive long enough.

Aggro Shaman takes a lot of skill to pilot correctly against decks that are all trying to counter it. Sure, it's OP as fuck, but that doesn't mean it's brainless, especially in Shaman mirror matches where one mistake can lead to your opponent snowballing to victory.
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>>168711827
to be fair it's a good thing he's getting slapped around
being 16 years old doesn't excuse being a brat, he's learning humility or at least that his words have consequences
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>>168711758
>salt bae
>le epic smart eddie murphy
>now this
I fucking hate normie twitter memes so fucking hard. As hard as renotards that I crush with my Jade druid. Reminder dear renocucks that you have 1 and half month worth to live before your garbage op Reno rotates out. What are you gonna do then? OH THE HORROR, YOU WILL BE FORCED TO FIGHT FOR BOARD PRESSENSE. Do you still remember how to do that? I bet no, your small brain isnt able to comprehend anything other than turn 6 heal 29 wait for opponent to concede.

Get fucked reno mongoloids.
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I wanna make sure I didn't miss anything in the tournament, has Amnesiac raged about RNG yet?
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What will replace Azure Drake in jade druid?
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>>168711997
>>168712160
>>168712212

What If I'm playing Reno Paladin and Hunter? Is it still as brain dead?
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>>168712343
no because hes the one with good rng so its all skill and "playing percentages" now.
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>>168712392
moonfire
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5 Pack on Lothar having a stroke while casting
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JUST
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>>168712418
No, you're just playing bad decks in that case.
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WHY DOES THIS SHITTER LOTHAR KEEP GETTING CASTING JOBS
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>>168712392
Deathwing
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>>168712572
Hes hot as fuck
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>>168712535
>your hair on Hearthstone
>tfw I've also lost hair since I started playing Hearthstone
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I actually feel bad for crazylazy it feels like kid got fucked by rng
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Am I doing ti rigth?
Go 100 gold every day currently except when the brawl released. Fucking mongoloids release the brawl 2 hours before midnight making it near impossible to get the daily gold limit in EU on that day.
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>tfw tempo mage
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As soon as I even see the first jade golem, I never end my turns.

Nothing feels better than slightly inconveniencing Jade cunts. In fact, I'm playing versus a jade shaman as I make this shitpost and he's waiting for the fuse...
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>casters have to pretend that hearthstone takes skill and isn't a game of RNG
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>>168713219
>>168712997
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P E R C E N T A G E S
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Why do people do this to themselves?
Isnt playing the game enough?
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Is it worth disenchanting all my old gods legendaries to craft the new reno mage list?
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>>168713907
Which are the legendarys? What reno mage list are you looking at?
Reno rotates soon anyways, so expect to play it in wild.
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>>168714030
Oh yeah, never mind. Fuck this shitty game
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When you want to play fun decks but the meta wont let you
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>>168714115
build better decks
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Is this guy worth keeping? I haven't played since Old Gods so idk what's good or not right now. If not, what should I craft with him?
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Stupid scaling one drops.
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>>168715158
He's meta worthy. Keep him until Reno gets rotated
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>>168715158
Must have in reno priest.
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>>168715296
Sounds good. Is control priest still a thing?
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>>168715158
Good legendary and looks fucking sick in gold, mad jelly
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>>168715365
Reno=control in this meta.
Reno priest with dragons is a solid deck, mutliple people got to high legend with it.
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>Lothar criticizing plays constantly

Sounds like he wasn't briefed by Blizz about justifying every decision lmao
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>>168715668
I'll give it a try. Ty babe.
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So what am I supposed to put into slow decks after Sylvanas and Rag gets banished to Wild?
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>>168716627
Cain, Nef
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>>168716627
Deathwing
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>>168716627
wait til someone with a brain makes a decklist for you
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>>168716627

2x BGH
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>>168716627
Hogger and Boogiemonster
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>>168712986
>333g
>literally worth like 3 bucks
i'll pass
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trump 0-2
fibonacci 0-2 (LOL)
firebat 1-1
young savage 2-0
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>people hating on this meta so hard

Mid-Jade Shaman is fun as fuck, not sure why people hate it so much.
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How's your progression guys?

I'm at:
Druid 364/500
Hunter 387/500
Made 209/500
Paladin 400/500
Priest 367/500
Rogue Gold
Shaman Gold
Warlock Gold
Warrior Gold
And at almost 7k ranked wins (started at release)
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When are those cards getting nerfed? Is it the standard disenchant them for full value deal?
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fun deck

still lost
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>>168717443

I have mage at level 60 but I'm about 200 wins away from gold
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>>168717443
I have everything at gold exept pala (89 wins lol)
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What did Brode mean by this?
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/thijshs/EncouragingLeopardRiPepperonis
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>>168717373
Ask our professional shaman player
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Will ungoro be an expansion or an adventure?

I dont have enough money for a new expansion
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>>168718056
expansion but you're in luck because after that there will be an expansion
follow by an expansion afterwards
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>>168718056
the adventure meme is dead
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>>168718056
There wont be any adventures anymore.
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i just crafted jarraxus 2 weeks ago and i got this today. what should i do
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>>168718225
sell your mac and buy a real pc
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>>168718341
got this macbook pro from school for half price, pretty good desu
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Soooo is Blizzard trying to lose as much of the playerbase as possible?

That year of the Mammoth post basically was them going full blown retard and it seems like only Blizzdrones aren't realizing what the shit was actually meaning.

>literally suspect that anyone who thinks the "year of the mammoth" changes are great for the game and Blizzard trying to help new players instead of jew the ever loving shit out of you might have been Hillary supporters.
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>>168718203
>>168718223
>>168718101

Hold the phone. They're not making adventures anymore? When did this happen?
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>>168718439
i don't care about newfags
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>>168718439
At this point the only way of saving the game is fixing the fucking meta.

Something blizzard has not been able to accomplish with the previous three releases which only made the meta more and more shit despite nerfs.
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>>168718557

2 days ago, they announced year of the mammoth

3 expansions this year, Sylvannas, Rag and Azure drake are going Wild (yep)
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>>168718691
old gods was good expansion, anon
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>>168718946

Inb4 some memeing fuck says it was bad because nobody uses the cards in this ridiculous meta
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>>168718905
>Sylvannas, Rag and Azure drake are going Wild (yep)
>>168718557
as well as Conceal, Ice Lance and Power Overwhelming

the game has become completely p2w and classic cards arent safe anymore

dont bother buying packs or crafting them, since you can get them for free once they rotate out
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Is Gnomish Inventor a good replacement for Azure Drake?
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>>168719089

Don't get a like for like replacement anon. Change it up, put that bike pig in.
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>>168718946
Yeah for a month until everyone figured out aggro shaman and zoo are still the best decks and that CotW at 8-mana is a pretty top tier deck, too.

It was probably better than this shit today, but it was far from good.
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So if I craft a golden Rag and/or Sylvannas and dust it after the rotation, will I get 4800 dust?
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>>168719203
yes, but if you already have a regular rag or sylvannas its not worth it as you lose dust as in you dont gain as much
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>>168719203

Probably.

My question is if i have a normal Rag, create a golden rag, do i get 4800 dust or only 3200?

It says they will "refund up to the deck limit". Do golden cards go over normal cards?
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>>168719203
You will get the dust you spent on the golden and 1600 dust from disenchanting it.
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>>168719203
how do you think that works
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>>168719432
you only get the best version of a card

1x for legendary
2x for non legendary

>Golden "Hall of Fame Cards" Crafting Costs
Ragnaros 3200
Sylvanas 3200
2x Azure Drake 1600
2x Power Overwhelming 800
2x Conceal 800
2x Ice Lance 800
-------------------------------
10400 Dust Value

>Golden "Hall of Fame Cards" Disenchanting Gains
Ragnaros 1600
Sylvanas 1600
2x Azure Drake 200
2x Power Overwhelming 100
2x Conceal 100
2x Ice Lance 100
-------------------------------
3700 Dust Value
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Probably a dumb question, but do you need to have full decklists for signing up to play the /hsg/ tournament or can you just sign up and then send your decks later before next week?
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Didn't fall for the "adventures"-jew.
Is this a good enough list without Brann / Maelstrom?
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>>168719432
Golden cards take precedence. You only get 3200, even if you have a regular and golden. So don't do that, unless you really want it in gold.
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>>168719562
if you have regular lego and craft golden then you basically gain 400 dust but actually lose 1200 if we agree that your regular lego was worth 1600
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>>168719562
so if i craft everything golden the end result would be a net gain of 3700 dust? i guess thats worth but I'm not sure
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>>168719730
Pirates will eat you alive without maelstrom.

At least put double Feral Spirits or something if you don't have maelstrom.
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>>168719621
hsg tourney guy

now he will find your post at some point and respond
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>>168707090
Yes
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>>168689107
told you guys this smug motherfucker was using us as inspiration to become a king amongst the OC card community
gl laddy
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>>168719914
>so if i craft everything golden the end result would be a net gain of 3700 dust?
Yes, if you disenchant everything you craft
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hsg tourney guys
when will we get bans? can we ban Brann?
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signed up for NA
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>>168686314
>NA tourney is literally all chinks

Can non-chink Americans compete at all in esports?
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Should i get ~ 4k free dust, or should i get ~9k worth of good golden cards?

I have a lot of dust stored alread
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>>168720078
he should make a non lewd version of this and post it to troll blizzard
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I don't suppose he'll see play in hunter or something, will he?
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>>168720553
Maybe if hunter comes back with un'goro.
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>>168720267
>Dust, always dust.

You can use it when Ungoro comes out to get the best cards right off the bat if you dont get them from packs.
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>>168720553
Probably not since Cult Master is just better if you want to draw with hunter.

It's a weird card which would seem like a good pick for prospective aggro decks, but they either have their own good ways of cycling like paladin with Divine Favor and Smalltime Recruits. Or they don't care because every card they draw is retarded and a 4-mana card that doesn't deal direct damage or isn't blatantly overpowered is useless for them.
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Anyone interested in trading 80g quests + helping me out with some other quests?

BardNarson#1397 Americas
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>>168721560
>trading
go to reddit, if you want help you dont ask someone else for something in return
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>>168721732
>wanting free gibsmedat instead of a mutual agreement where both parties benefit
Spotted the nigger
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>>168722159
this isn't the place for you try here
>/r/eddit
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>>168721560
Add me BestMageNA#666
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>>168722159
no one is asking you for anything
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>>168719942
Neat, thanks.

Also,
>that Leeroy form Yoitsflo
>>
it's been a while
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>>168723157

I never have any luck with Warrior in arena either
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>>168723157
>went warrior

there's your problem, buddy.

i stick with mage, rogue, and warlock
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>>168717534
I have rogue lvl 60 with 8/500
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>more pack expansions
>blizzard STILL not giving any kind of rewards for playing
>try a bit of shadowverse, literally got 22 free packs of the new xpac
>get tons of gold by beating pve content
>built already 2 strong decks, have like 20 legos because unlike hearthkike they are cool with having a higher chance to get one
>meanwhile in hearthstone had to dust my old shit for midrange shaman, aggro warrior and controll priest / warlock for a bit of laddering to farm gold for arena and have barely a collection

Jesus christ how did I even play this game unironically. If it wasn't for arena and tavern brawl I wouldn't play at all
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>winstreaked from rank 9 to 5 with Aggro Shaman
see you next month ladder
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>>168723969

Post deck
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young savage 3-0
reddit 0-3

based us
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>>168723880
>meanwhile in hearthstone had to dust my old shit for (...)
while what you say is true, this here is your problem. Yo uhave plenty of times to prepare for each new sets. I've been saving gold prior to each set/adventure release since the game was released, and never had to dust anything out of necessary. Just plan properly.

Also the fact that you're dusting stuff mean you will always be lacking when you want to play wild/brawl/vs friends.
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>>168724043
>young savage
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>>168723416
>not picking based Anduin in this arena meta
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>>168724145
eh hes our guy tho...
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>>168724331
>our guy
same pic
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young savage is one of us
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>>168724462
this website is for people over 18
>>
do we like the player known as amnesiac here?
>>
there is no "our guy" e-celebs by default.
e-celebs are the most normie thing possible, and if you like them, you're underage and need to fuck off to reddit
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>>168724038
standard shit, except I don't have second Spirit Wolves and changed them for something else I can't remember, (2nd deckhand I think)
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>>168724096
I just don't have the autism to farm ladder / casual for 30 wins every day for the 100 gold, so I just do quests and hope for the best and do arena, I have like a sub5 win average but still more enjoyable than fucking ladder. Why can't blizzard just be more generous with packs and rewards? Then i'd at least try to fuck around a bit and not just netdeck the most broken decks just to actually win to get gold.
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trump is our guy tho
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>>168724702
I dont even give a shit about ladder, I just do my daily each day and brawl each week. I play my quest on ladder and get to rank 10 or 5 depending on the meta and my quests.
>>
If I spend a minute more in this game I swear I'm gonna kill myself
>>
KILLINALLDAY IS LITERALLY OUR GUY
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>>168725058
>lost first game 2-3
>got shutout second game
cant think of a better guy for us
>>
firebat is the our guy we need but dont deserve
>>
Fuck off is our guy!
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>>168725421
>trump did a shoutout

vod of it?

>tfw forsen never did an ama here
>>
MUH E-CELEBS
MUH MEMES
>>
>that one guy mad jelly because he will NEVER be one of our guys
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>>168720162
There's a bit of a problem with me communicating with EU peeps, so currently I have to ask for people to email me their cardbans. Email Address is [email protected].

You can ban Brann all you want, but be noted that someone may have already banned him.

>>168719621
You can just sign up and submit your classes when I ask you for them.
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>>168725643
it says "shutout" anon
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>>168725691
Kind of funny that hearthstone is only popular because of e-celebs which in return keep all their fanboys interested in hearthstone.

A huge pile of shit managing to hold itself up.
>>
reminder that the winners of the hsg tourney become honorary our guys
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jade is so brokeback enjoy your new shitty meta
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>finally get around to buying Karazhan
>naturally I make a purify priest deck the moment I finish the adventure
>all of the golden cards I had previously unpacked seemed to be meme cards with no real use
>they finally have their moment of glory after sitting in the dark recesses of my collection forever
>tfw absolutely destroying my first opponent, a fucking aggro shaman in casual mode

Brode was right, this IS fun!
>>
based strifecro letting antonidas stay on board for 2 turns and still winning
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like i'd run a 1mana 1/2 with battlecry summon a 1/1 with charge in an aggro deck, it doesn't even need the weapon effect to be strong
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>>168726108
final score for the day 4-18 and a very salty priest player
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>>168710637
People forget that he actually got really mad at a guy at a tournament for BMing last year and almost looked like he was going toward punching him out too. He should really just leave the scene because he is basically just Reynad at 16.

I don't mean that to be a unkind person either its just obvious some people are a bit too high strung to accept all of the internet hate out there and/or don't have good anger management skills so they pop off and get haters.
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trump fell for the control warrior meme
:(
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>>168726923
>lose thousands of dollars because of a coinflip
im sure u would be totally rational and cold blooded
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>>168726006
>jfalkenrath
Brought Freeze Mage to a "Meme" Tourney

>klandri
The Legend Aggro King of EU

>Merielle
Brought Zoo to a "Meme" Tourney

>Gus
Mexican Furry who, despite having Shaman nerfed to all hell, brought Shaman and swept a pristine Zoo deck

>Ary
Sheer determination and participation finally paid off, has participated in every single modern NA /hsg/ tournament
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>>168726662
At 3-0 currently m8, it's going pretty smoothly
>>
does cuckler really sniff cocainoides?
>>
Should I craft Dirty Rat to use as a pseudo-Deathlord or am I just gonna get salty at all the times it pulls an 8 drop and I'd best not bother?
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>>168727828
don't
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>>168727163
It's part of the game, if you can't accept that, then don't play

Most poker players don't sperg out when they lose flips
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>put an average girl next to lothar
feel bad for her and my future gf
>>
>>168727828

It goes badly wrong for my opponents all the time. I can never trust it.
>>
young savage game is most likely gonna be featured next
dont miss our laddy
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>>168727828
Dirty Rat is used to pull out shit into a hard board wipe or MCT, also against rogue to pull Questing/VanCleef/Auctioneer/Leeroy into hard removal. Also denies Thaurissan value.

It's not a good card if used on its own, so it's not very good against aggro as you never want to drop it on curve.
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>>168727163
It's not a virtue of a good player to get tilted, that can potentially make you play worse later.
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>>168727218
This has to be my moment. It's the last time I can bring Majordomo to a standard meme tourney.
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>>168727828
you either use it as a taunt against aggro or to counter doomsayers and combo with your boardclears against control.
It's the most interesting card this expansion, you should definitely have at least one copy if you play control decks
>>
OUR GUY YOUNG SAVAGE VS FR0ZEN

GET IN HERE LADDIES
>>
>amnesiasc
>amnesia sc
>amnesia starcraft
every time
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>>168728495
this is your time, anon
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>>168728720
>he actually brought water warrior

the absolute madman
>>
murloc finja warrior wtf
that was sick
>>
Motherfucking finja, so glad I opened that little faggot
>>
haha young savaged lost to murloc pirate warrior
>>
Amnesiac will bomb out of the tourney now after losing to murloc warrior
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>>168729239
>>168729186
>>168729184
>>168729170
>and I missed that
WHAT HAPPENED LADS
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>>168720267
Just go for the goldens if you have plenty of dust. The goldens buy you the option to not choose the goldens at 0 loss at any point in the future.
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>>168729331
Murloc pirate dragon warrior makes Amnesiac concede turn 6
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>>168729331
turn 5 finja memes
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>>168729331
heres the deck he used
https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/fr0zens-aggro-pirate-murloc-water-warrior-hct-americas-winter-playoffs-2017/
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>>168729570
Wait, murloc warrior? What the fuck did I miss?
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>>168729791

Even better, Murloc Pirate warrior
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>>168727218
tourney guy, you on
sent you an email for the card ban
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i missed it, why the regame
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>Trump 0-3
is it just bad luck? is he really that poor of a player?
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>>168730008
dc from frozen
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>>168729570
Can someone post the list he used for as far it is known?
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>>168729791
finja being insane tempo and board presence, people going all in on card draw rng
>>
Who is the hottie next to the whale?
>>
>>168729570
finja OP

I've been playing finja anyfin nzoth pally recently and the late game potential is insane
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>>168730090
songbird
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>>168730000
gotchu
>>
>>168729645
>>168729570
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>>168730343
when do we submit classes? presumably after all bans have been announced, any idea when that will be?
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>>168729825
sorry for you, those are all trash
>>
>Pirate warrior
>face shaman
>Renomage/warlock

Such a boring meta.
>>
Why is Shaman allowed to exist?
>>
>Play against Kun'Thun combo 3 times today
>Druid has all pieces in 15 cards with perfect ramp and removal
XDDD OUTPLAYED LUL
>>
God the cringe. It hurts.
>>
>>168729825
n'zoth and hope to draft shredders and haunted creepers
>>
songbird is our girl right?
>>
are these casters retarded
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>>168731447
obviously the woman because she's a woman
>>
>>168731447
>>168731602
can you... stop?
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>>168731849
what's your problem
>>
>>168731602
>>168731447
A woman and Lothar, of course they're retarded.
>>
>>168731849
stop what
I find mistaking cards in hand and being unable to count annoying when it comes to casters
>>
>>168731940
But at least Lothar is hot. I wish I could just mute them and not the game.
>>
>>168731447
earlier the woman went on and on about how one of the players "misplayed" because he played krul when it wasnt active, even though it was clearly the best play regardless.

And lothar is lothar, so yea, they are retarded
>>
>>168732025
ok that's fair
>>
>there is a lot of cumming onto his face

What did they mean with this?
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>>168731940
>>168732180
please keep it respectful and constructive
her name is songbird
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>>168732180
>he could've popped Ice block this turn but decided not to for some reason
>oh wait that's wrong potion xD
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Does anyone else feel like there's certain times you just shouldn't play?

I can't win a game for the life of me due to a combination of shitty draws no matter what I try to play and my opponents(renofaggots especially) just having all the answers. I've lost 7 games in a row and about to drop back to rank 3
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>>168732358
her name is dumb slut m8
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>>168732309
>Lothar in charge of English
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>>168732443
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>>168732358
>respectful and constructive
wrong site my friend
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>>168732358
that's the worst kind of shitpost
>>
stop...
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Okay, Shieldbearer question.
What the fuck is the point of removing mortal strike from the deck?

Everyone and their grandmother are teching in a ton of taunts and heals and shit for anti-aggro, and you remove your only thing that goes through taunt.
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Okay I must admit I liked the mouthbreather warrior vs. reno shitter game, pretty good
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>no adventures ever again.

whelp, that is the last straw. time to let this one go.

At least I can say I remained f2p until the end.
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>>168732831
the point is more consistent pressure and early game of course
personally I think it's a really bad tech but it has its merits
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>>168732630
cute
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>>168732831
mortal strike is dead draw unless it kills, plus its better to have a lower curve
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>he was at 15 and not 12 so Mortal Strike instead Bash wouldn't work
>completely ignores that 15-3 which was granted from Bash is 12, which activates Mortal Strike

I mean, I'm shit at the game but Lothar please.
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>>168732901
I don't get it
what's so great about adventures besides pve content
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>>168733084

Guaranteed cards.
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Pirate Warrior is fucking disgusting
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>>168733084
you get all new cards for a static small fee
this alone is better than packs

it gives you tons of time to use gold for the packs of the expansion before or save up for the next ones
removing this is gonna drain everyones dust and gold piggy banks
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>>168733084
Best value for cards.
$25 gives you 5 legendary cards, bunch of epics and rares.
Try the same with packs and you're lucky if you get 1 legendary and 3 epics.
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>>168733179
If it's s good adventure, then sure.
But if it's something like Karazhan then doing 4 wings to get that for example druid healing portal and not using anything else is fucking worse than just crafting the cards you need from expansion.
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>>168732901
>have to pay 3500 gold for one card
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>>168733084

2800 gold got you every card in an adventure.

2800 gold gets you maybe 1 lego with packs
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>>168733084
i forgot that the total cost also goes up since packs are way more expensive

and there is a lot of rng which is heavily unfavorable, in terms of amongst the cards you get if you get any good or useful ones
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>these casters trying to defend that game
holy shit. this is soulless
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>>168733338
Even if the adventure is all garbage cards you can STILL dust everything for more value than the gold would get you for packs.

>>168733353
Dust the rest of the cards you retard. You can't get that dust value from packs anyway.
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>>168732358
(you)

Shes a fat vagina token
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>>168733285
>>168733321
>>168733440
>>168733509
But still, that's not that many cards. It's way too little to grant every class a legendary for example
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>>168733724
And?
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>>168732425

He could have popped with greater arcane missiles.. they didnt see that either though
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>>168733724
it was good in between because it balances out the insane drain that packs are in the first place

when its only packs it becomes insanely costly to get anything worthwhile

people are literally gonna pull garbage from packs, use all their dust and gold and be in the situation where another expansion comes up, how can you afford to get anything worthwhile then? and then before you could ever get a decent amount the next releases and you are in even deeper shit

adventures were a nice bridge for this
if they increase gold by a lot then packs can be better because of more cards sure but you need a viable way to get them and currently getting packs is already a total shitshow
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>this seris was an excellent example of competitive hearhtstone
>aggro aggro aggro mage

Wow.
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>>168734019
well, yea. Can't argue with that
still prefer packs tho
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>>168733084
1. You get 100% of the cards
2. It is a small amount of gold for a large amount of high rarity cards
3. Expansion packs are usually 80% bad/unplayable filler cards.

3.1 This means that for the same amount of gold you will get 1 legendary card at minimum from packs. But you have like a 17/20 chance of it being completely garbage.

3.2 Many more unique/interesting decks require specific epics to craft, which are quite expensive. Often this means many people can't afford to experiment with these kinds of decks because the investment is too high and there are too many garbage epics diluting the pool.

4. To just start to get a decent amount of the expansion cards you need around 150 packs. A new expansion comes out every 4 months. If you farm your quests for these 120 days you can get 72 free to play packs. This means you are about halfway removed from having a collection which meets the minimum of having decent availability of the cards all around, still needing to craft a bunch. This means you need to pull another 80.000 gold out of your ass or shill out 100 bucks, while the adventure costs 25 bucks.
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>>168734091
they arent wrong, its really the only example available so yeah, by proxy, is an excellent example
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can anyone explain to me why a renolock is bming me when he beats my nzoth warrior? like there's 0 chance he loses with brann kazakus and jaraxxus, but he feels so fucking proud of himself anyway??
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>>168734019
People on reddit already calculated it.
You will be missing ~30-40 packs every single expansion compared to right now. You will always be behind.

With 3 expansions it's literally impossible to keep up as a f2p player unless the daily login bonus stays permanent and is great or you just want to play 1, eventually 2 meta decks and literally nothing else.
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Hearthstone Cancer Power Ranking

1. Reno Mage
2. Aggro Shaman
3. Reno Warlock
4. Pirate Warrior
5. Rogue
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>>168734280
>renolock
N'zoth decks are beating renolocks, while having trouble with Mages and priests from my experience
But I'm playing N'zoth pally
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>>168733724
To get a legendary for every class (9) you need to buy around 270 packs to get 9 legendaries. Which is like 315 dollars.
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>>168734394
t. aggro warrior
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>>168734259
>Many more unique/interesting decks require specific epics to craft, which are quite expensive
Epics are the biggest offender in the game for me.
They almost always are deck defining and you literally need them for those decks. But the problem is that they are often used in only that 1, maybe 2 decks that they define. So you waste 800 dust one 1, 2 decks. Some are exceptions. Prep, Doomsayer. But other are mostly used only in a few decks which makes it hard to justify crafting them.

I looked up my collection and for every expansion the biggest percentage of missing cards are epics. I'm missing more epics than legendary cards, and obviously more than rares and commons. They need to lower the cost of epic cards.
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>>168734710
i think epics are statistically underrepresented like everyone has the biggest problem getting those just like you say because there are quite a bunch and they are important for those decks but the chance to get one is really small
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>>168734685
no, 180 packs
but that doesn't count the huge amount of dust you'll get from 180 packs
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>>168734961
Another problem is also that you need 2 copies of the epics most of the time, which makes it even harder to unpack them.
Unpack a lego? Great, you're set with that. Unpack a Prep, well it's useless without the 2nd one. Still can't play Rogue.
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>>168734497
how the fuck does nzoth beat 2 poly the board potions?
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>>168735003
1 legendary per 20 packs is pretty generous. It's also assuming you get 0 duplicates I think.
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>>168735120
good point
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>>168735141
By baiting the answers with everything but tirion and hoping he won't pull another answer out of his ass.
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>>168735251
1 legendary per 20 packs is average, not generous
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>>168734394
add midrange jade shaman to the list.
>can outlast and outheal aggro
>beats control with hexes, devolve, gigantic jades and overpowered class jade cards
>fast enough to smash jade druid
worst part is that deck is barely gonna suffer from the nerfs
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>>168735371
The odds of pulling a legendary scale up gradually, you're assuming it's equal between pack 1 and 39, which is objectively untrue.
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Wait, what the fuck is going on in this tournament stream. We watched a game between HotMeowth and PNC then the casters just described the next 2 games they played, now we're seeing the final one?

These idiots just need to set up multiple streams or stick to popular player games ffs. I want to see my guys playing.
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>>168735509
did they released the info on that?
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>>168735580
word to the fucking mean streets yo
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>>168735590
It's been based on sample sizes in the hundreds of sizes from sites like pitytimer and of course the mass openings at the start of sets. (those are good for golden legendary pity timer tracking, estimated at 400 packs)
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>>168735509
no you fucking idiot I'm basing it on data that has been known for far longer than the pity timer
legendaries are in just about 5% of packs which is 1 in 20
http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Card_pack_statistics

>>168735590
no but so many packs have been opened we know the odds pretty much exactly
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>>168735509
There are no hard numbers to objectively say this, and from what people have noticed, the significant increase in drop percentage is only after the 30th pack
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>>168735441
I was about to rank it 3rd and it will move up to 1 once it gets perfected.
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Are you ready to get cucked by Blizzard giving China a higher droprate?
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>>168736172
im ready to pack my shit basically
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where the fuck is reynads video about the changes?

he literally named his stream 2 nights ago
>I'll make a video about the changes!

and all he did during the stream is bitch and moan about people asking his opinion

is he waiting for blizzard to tell him what to say? since hes a massive fucking blizzard sellout now like every other streamer that blizzard supports
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdDmU27OfHQ
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http://imgur.com/a/tbASg

see anything familiar?
congratulate our boy, he deserves it
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>sit around rank 15 playing meme shit
>make an aggro shaman deck to ladder for a bit
>spam matches while running errands
>run into literally nothing but jade druids
>many of them spam SPECTACULAR as me go face
>get my very first salty friend request
>in fact, I get several requests, one per match
>even from the druids that beat me
>they'reall really angry messages telling me to play a deck with more skill
>because jade druid is very skillfull I guess?
>im just like "ok have a good day :-)" while they keep saying heinous shit as im strolling down the aisle in target

wew
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>>168736498
downvoted and reported for racism
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>>168736459
>caring about manchildren
>>
Why didn't HotMeowth play Flame Imp into Crystalweaver? Sure, three health damage is fucked, but wouldn't a 4/3 demon be worth it?
>>
sottle is pretty insightful and not afraid to admit his mistakes immediately!
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>>168736459
I don't understand the thought process behind your post.
You WANT a video about opinions of someone you say is massive fucking blizzard sellout?

Don't know much about Reynad myself, but I do know he is always late on "opinion videos".
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>>168737989
because he made a big deal about it and acting like a retard to his subs, since he always leaves his chat in submode, and he hasnt done shit

you dont have to like someone to want to hear their opinion, or agree/disagree with it
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>>168738093
>because he made a big deal about it and acting like a retard to his subs, since he always leaves his chat in submode, and he hasnt done shit
but are you his sub? do you care about someone who is his sub?

>you dont have to like someone to want to hear their opinion, or agree/disagree with it
definitely, but is really odd to care so much about someone you seem to dislike, that's all I'm saying
>>
hotmeowth is a god
>>
DOWN TO THE WIRE
>>
God, what was the point of not going Pyro face before he dropped Alex? He was on 29 fucking health. Alex was absolutely needed to heal him, which means you Poly it.

Sure, the Pyro on Imp was nicely done, but he could have prevented that.
>>
still lost :(
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>>168738429
He should've played the imp earlier there was no reason not to, especially if you put him on pyro
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>Argentina
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young savage 4-0
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Shiiiieeeeettttt that was a hell of a game.

Why can't ladder be like this

Why do green niggers have to ruin everything
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>>168686314
>literally 50 weeks of the year i sit at home on the weekends and play shit games all the day
>one of the few weeks i actually leave my house you faggots do a tournament
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T-Thanks Blizzard. I'll 'catch-up' within no-time with this extra expansion.
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>>168738778
where are you going anon?
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>>168738831
_my_ moms house
>>
ahhhhAHHHHHHHHHH
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>>168738789
Remember go- I mean anon, team 5 is adding an extra yearly expansion to give you even more quality content, and not to pump out even more 99% filler expansions for you to spend lots and lots of money on.
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>>168738789
iktfb
>1 pack in 3 days
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>>168738979
bring your phone and play from there
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>>168739012
Show your pack you son of a cuck.
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>>168738789
Yup, my quest wall just now as well.
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docpwn sucks lmao
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>>168739486
poor guy, Kibler's explanation on why his play sucked was flawless
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>expansion leaks
>hype for rerolls
>a week of rolling 40's into 40's
rigged
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>>168739152
>>
1 drops were a mistake
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How much have you saved up so far /hsg/?
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>>168740652
600
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I wont be around for the next OP, should I make a quick tourney image that could be used? (just add a black dot with paint or something).
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>>168740652
530 desu
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>>168740652
50 thousand
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>>168740909
sure make it
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>>168739939
Reminds of of the same "bug" before Kara released.
Took them just 1 business day to fix. :^)
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>tfw you are behind in life
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>>168725816
>[email protected]
Huh, this is a blast from the past.
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>>168739939

Speak for yourself, I just rerolled a 40g quest into Total Dominance
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>>168741876
I remember the days when you'd get that once every week. Just because there was a week cooldown on it. I see it like once every 2 months now.
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>control decks are deader than fucking dead as shit dead

I wonder why the game is so fucking boring now oh wait
I wonder why nerfing aggro will change nothing oh wait
dragon priest will just brann dragOP me
jade will bend me over and fuck me in the ass
great fucking game blizzard, incredible
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>>168742067
Last time I got it was before MSG released.
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>>168742080
Control is fucking awful you sperg, kill yourself
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>>168742080
this is you
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>>168742080
Midrange is the best skill to game length ratio.
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>>168742067
they've added a lot of 60 gold quests, 1 80 gold quest, 1 whole pack quest and more
the average is still the same about 50 gold per quest
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>>168741274
>>168740909

Here is the OP for the next thread if anyone would be so kind as to use it.

It would also help if the tournament information could be updated with:

> /hsg/ Tournament Information
25 BATTLENET BUCKS GRAND PRIZE
Standard Set
Mail your 1 cardban + b.tag to: [email protected]

Thanks!
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>>168742764
Add a dot with paint to avoid duplicate file error.
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>>168742764
wait the cardbans are undisclosed?
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>>168743512
During submission.
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>>168743512
i think he said the voting is undisclosed until the results are in and the bans are final
that way you can't game the voting in a certain direction
>>
>get past rank 15
>switch to control cthun warrior to not get tired of my other decks
>c'thun priest
>failed control hunter attempt
>c'thun druid
>n'zoth warrior
>some wacky mage with that dude who freezes shit every time you cast a spell
>malchezaar control warrior
>poor man budget renolock
>and others, but not a single tier 1 deck
i don't know what's going on but I love it
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>>168743512
I hope when he posts the bans he puts the name of the participant who banned it below the card. Feels like a lost chance at banter, otherwise.
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>>168744128
member when yeti got banned
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>>168744313
it didn't "get banned" rite
not all participants submitted their ban so andy tourney guy chose yeti and a few other random cards
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docpwn more like docsuck lol
>>
>leaf plays
>>
i want to unpack aya and put her in my deck! she's MY best friend
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>>168743818
I thought the ride was over when I met this reno priest but he played Majordomo-Velen como.
>>
lmao this docpwn guy doesnt understand the fucking basics of control matchups or tempo swings

This is what happens to the "pro scene" when pirate warrior and similar decks are tier 1.
>>
am I retarded or will it work like this

>craft golden rag
>get 3,200 dust when patch rolls out
>dust the golden rag

I will profit 3200 dust?
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>>168744784
you'll profit 1600 dust
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>>168744852
can you explain it to me? I think im legit retarded

>create golden rag
-3200

>patch comes
-3200 + 3200 = 0

>dust my golden rag

-3200 + 3200 = 0 +3200 = +3200
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>>168744784
you get 3200 when rag moves to wild
so you are at net 0 with a golden rag, this is where the value gets created
then you dust him and get 1600 profit
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>>168744991
you get 1600 from dusting
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>>168744991
dusting a golden legendary doesn't give you 3200 dust you genius
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>>168744784

>craft golden rag for 3200 dust
>get 3200 dust when the patch hits
>de it for 800 dust
>net 800 dust

So yea if you dont have rag and are going to DE him anyway after the patch then you can profit dust, but not 3200...
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>>168745052
>>168745061
confirmed mongoloid,

thanks lads
>>
docpwn is a skillful player, skilled draw on turn 6
>>
top kekd reno turn 6
docpwn is a disgusting player
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>>168740652
I saved ~1k but then yesterday I accidentally bought a MSoG pack ruining my full stop at a legendary thing so I blew all my gold on MSoG packs and have still yet to open a legendary 13 packs later
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>>168745162
>>168745186
>Aggro shitters
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>>168745326

docshit is also playing aggro decks, AND hes been misplaying constantly, he deserves to lose after showing that hes a clueless retard in the warlock mirror.
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Of course docpwn takes the series, this game is pure garbage fuck blizzard
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>>168745552
Hearthstone is a joke game my dude
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>>168745326
did you even watch you dumb fucker
>>
19 damage in the 5th turn
what a yoke
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>>168745248
You fucked up so hard. Just leave the 1 pack. You did exactly Kikestone is conditioning you to do. Using a set tactic counteracts this.
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why do you continue to play a game that you dislike?
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Holy shit flametongue is literally 2mana six damage what they fuck where they thinking
>>
another game that draws reno on turn 6
what are the odds
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>>168746648
i continue to live a life i dislike
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>>168746648
1. Skinnerbox
2. Hope the game will become enjoyable again and need to maintain collection
3. Just the collecting can be fun
4. Autism
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>>168746668
>Soulfire
>Power Overwhelming
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>>168746830
same
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tj is dank af lids
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I fucking love Reno Rogue
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>>168748253
I want to play this, post dick
>>
consider the following
>jade token druid: make jade things and tokens and savage roar your opponent
>>
>get win with shaman quest
>make aggro shaman
>win every single fucking game
This just honestly made me angry to know that the reason i'm losing is 100% because i'm not playing blatant overpowered cards it's really disheartening that there is such a huge powergap between 'meta' and ''''''viable''''''
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can muzzy "the fucking muzzlim aggroshitter" just kill himself already?
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>>168748326
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>>168748125
>when u high af but still gotta pretend aggrostone is interesting
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>>168748652
Cheers bruv
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why do brainlets atempt to play miracle rogue?

>his portrait is ungolden
>it's turn 6
>plays auctioneer
>coin
>conceal
>this whole INCREDIBLY COMPLEX TURN takes 80 seconds decide
>also forgets to attack with 8/8 edwin before concealing
>loses
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what is with the beanies tho
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That trick that allows you to craft golden legendaries in standard format and get the cost back when it rotates out, does that work with cards in the grand tournament set for example, or is it only cards that will disappear from the basic set?
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>>168749383
confidence issues
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>>168749458
It is only for Classic cards
Basic cards are the ones you have for free that have no gems
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>>168749458
there is no dust refund for sets rotating to wild on schedule
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>>168749532
So only the specific normal set ones then?
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>>168742505
this is me
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>>168742505
I play control Warrior and I love this picture.
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>>168746830
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Thoughts on deck? Thinking of adding shaku but don't know what to replace.
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>>168750667
I was gonna say lotus assassin but then noticed you're running curator so I don't know
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>>168748253
>That feelio when
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>>168750667
- 1 Southsea Deckhand
+ Shaku

seems good to me
>>
wow what a good game of edwin rogue
>>
MUZZY THE AGGROSHITTER BTFO
>>
watching this "tourney" i just realized the meta nowadays is literally pick any of the aggro decks and hope you get the nut draw and instantly win

for example turn 2 8/8 gg i won
or t1 stb t2 axe t3 bloodsail cultist gg i won

i could do those plays and im a random rank 10 shitter
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is he truly the most skilled Hearthstone player in the competitive circuit right now?
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>>168750667
Isn't Curator too slow for that deck?
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>>168750667
>Shadow sensei
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>>168751852
congrats you found the secret, it's the people who sign up for tournaments that appear in them
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>>168751864
That's not Pavel.
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is it possible to play against this?
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>turn 6?
>never heard of it
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>>168751852
Well, yeah.
Compare any of the current aggro decks to Zoo.
Zoo had 11 freaking 1 drops. The most popular aggro now have like 5-7.
Zoo had a handful of cards that cost 4 or more mana. Aggro now has a bunch of them.


Zoo is the real classic aggro-ish deck. Swarms you with a bunch of small minions. Now aggro tries to go with the bang. Get the cards and win, or don't get them and hope for the perfect top decking. Current aggro is far far far less consistent than old facehunter, zoo, old aggro shamana, any old aggro.
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>>168751852
The game is literally entirely draws now. Aggro depends on curving out.
Reno depends on early removal + Reno.
Jade depends on curving out.
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There is literally not a single shit card in the whole of LoE
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how is one man so hot and so fucking boring
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>>168752305
>people ban Shaman
>warrior dominates the tournament

Orcstone: Orcs of Orccraft.
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>>168752452
so what
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>>168752452
ancient shade
eerie statue
naga sea witch
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>>168752519
>being attracted to overcompensating manlets
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>>168752519
you answered your own question

It also explains how he can be so fucking bad at his job but keeps getting work
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half these ""tournament games"" are just turn 5 concedes lmao

remember when druid combo for 14 was the most broken thing ever
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>rolls spell damage totem
>6 times in a row
give me my stars back you fucker
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>>168752719
>eerie statue
>naga sea witch
They are fun in meme decks.
Also it's always fun to see a mage getting punished for not playing around a random Naga Sea Witch from Firelands Portal.
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Would you guys fuck, kill or marry the female caster as it stands?
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>>168752916
And it was a 9 mana combo.
I despise uninteractive combo decks, but piratestone is worse than solitaire.
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>>168753049
not her fault but she has that frequency of voice that irritates me
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>>168753049
Marry if she loses some weight (yes, i'm that desperate).
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>>168753049
Is Lothar a female caster?
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>>168748652
>>168748873
Okay this shit is fun
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imagine being one of the casters desperately trying to pretend there's anything interesting to say about these games
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>>168753049
preferably wouldn't get close enough to do any of this
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>>168753512
It hurts to listen to them during the aggro matches. I love how Kibler keeps calling obvious misplays and missed lethals as "decisions".
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Who the fuck are these casters? Where is my boy kripp at?
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>>168753631
he is playing into blizzard right now
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>>168754016
>>168754016
>>168754016

move whenever you feel like it
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>>168752127
Pavel is seriously though extremely good, one of the best if not the best player Hearthstone has ever seen
maybe like Kolento at his height is comparable
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>>168752390
>Current aggro is far far far less consistent than old facehunter, zoo
I wouldn't really call it less consistent.

Pirate warrior or shaman don't run more 1-drops because they have access to reliable and cheap sources of repeated damage in the form of weapons which also synergize with the shit they put on the board like troggs, pirates, or spellpower. Old aggro relied on neutral early game drops like Leper Gnome, Abusive Sergeant, or Knife Juggler. The pirate aggro cuts that shit partly because these cards got nerfed, and partly because pirates and their class cards might look worse on their own, but they have much more potent synergies than Knife Juggler into UTH.

The one thing hunter had over the current aggro except cards that got nerfed along the way is the hero power which now you get from finley.

No control or midrange could withstand the sheer amount of shit pirates consistently throw at you in the first 4 turns. Healbot wouldn't do shit. Belcher would be the biggest obstacle and it would probably fuck over pirate warrior or force him to run owl, but shaman would just tech in earth shock like it used to do in the LoE meta. And shaman is no less consistent than the LoE deck now, in fact, it's more consistent since it doesn't have to rely on Crackle rng, can be build in multiple ways depending on meta or individual preference, and doesn't need to run Ancestral Knowledge for draw anymore because every single card is a fucking bomb.

The reason aggro pirates might seem less consistent is because Reno decks are very popular now and they fuck pirates hard if they can play Reno before they die.

Zoo is a special case because for all the control warlock memes, it doesn't operate like a typical aggro deck. It has zero reach except for Soulfire and Doomguard, cards with significant disadvantages. It doesn't run exclusively on smorc cards and so is unplayable without life tap.
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>30 min match against clown priest
Yeah i know why people play face decks in this game now.
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>>168754784
They are more consistent at dealing damage, but less consistent in terms of card draw.
When I tried any of the current aggro, even with hard mulligan I would often find myself with no 1 drop or with gaps in turns where I would just have to hero power. Zoo and face hunter had those problems very rarely. Hunter would even play off curve to use his hero power while having something to play on the next turn.

I would say that's a clear indicator of how out of control aggro is. Even with a less consistent deck, it manages to deal much more consistent and much bigger damage.
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>>168755316
you don't need card draw when anything you draw is an excellent topdeck
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>>168755458
No, even they have bad top decks.
However the overall quality of the cards is ridiculous so that they can lose out a turn and still close the game on turn 6.

A t1 pirate opening is already more than most non-pirate decks can handle reliably.

I think that the tournament versions of aggro prove my point. They all have a lower curve than your regular ladder aggro. Even to a point of excluding mortal strikes since it's a dead draw if you don't kill with it. Tournament player don't have the luxury of taking a risk with the less consistent versions since there is no remach. They try to lower the curve as much as possible while keeping the damage in order to maximize the odds of having a great opening.

Current aggro is far more "nuts draw" oriented than older aggro. With the exception of Shaman since Shaman's class identity is to have insane cards at a low cost.
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