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>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB
To update: Never pick anything other than Morghur as Beastmen.
Necromancer heroes are top pick right now while raise dead is still broken as fuck.

>Empty Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>ACTUAL Total War News
If you've been living under a rock these past few months, Shortbrindal is free now.

We have battle map creating tools now. Only land battles and only for custom/custom mp games. Siege battles may be a possibility in the future but they're practically covering their ears and screeching at any mention of using modded maps to improve the campaign.
UPDATE: PEOPLE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT ANYWAY AND OUT OF DAMAGE CONTROL CA WILL BE ADDING OFFICIAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING CUSTOM MAPS TO THE CAMPAIGN ALONGSIDE THE BRETONNIA UPDATE

BRETONNIA IS 28TH OF FEBUARY.

Warhammer is $12: https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly

Isabella von Carstein(Legendary Lord) has been announced as part of the War not Peace dealio. She and Vlad have their own faction, seperate from the Mannlet.

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
>Recent
Update Info -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_5
>Recent
DLC (good goy) -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331

Suggested Mod Pack (You can pick and choose from the list, Suggested by anon):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

Previous Thread: >>168651820
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How do I use Steam Tanks effectively

Do I target large things like Giants and/or Lords or do I make them shoot at blobs of infantry
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1st for artilerry
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2 minutes until vote
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1st for mems
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>>168709958
ROLLAN!
Can't wait to finally add Bretonnia!
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MISSED BRETONNIA, FILL ME IN
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>>168710147
FORMATIONS
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Does the vote give extra points?
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nth for what right?
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>>168710147
Cool new units, formations, nerfed archers, Grail Knights finally op as fuck, Bretonnia's going to be da best faction!
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>>168710263
UUUU
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So how do I get Isabella? Or is she not even out yet?
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>>168710263
nth for arms
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>>168710393
She will be in Bretonnia update
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>>168710404

FOTE will never be finished

Curse you meloncat
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>mfw the mongol singing sounds like "uwu"

what did he mean by this?
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>Missed Bretonnia
Fug
Do we have information about other faction changes other than Isabella?
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>>168710605
They have the stream up to watch if you want. skip to 2:47:00 for TW
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69nth for the prophet!
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>have a cousin who used to play tabletop Warhammer
>he's also a massive Paradox shill
>plays Europa Universalis pretty much every day
>owns every single DLC in that game, even the Sabaton one
>tried to show him Warhammer
>"yeeeah...it's nice to look at....but Total War is casual babby shit with no depth, no offence"
>"maybe I'll buy it when it's on sale, but I'm not supporting SEGA's shitty DLC practices"
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>>168710715
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>>168710193
>>168710268
>formations
I hope they will add them to Dawi and Empire, would be retarded if bunch of inbred peasants had them, but highly trained armies would not.
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>Carcassonne confirmed playable
>Green Knight is NOT a LL

So the Fay Enchantress starts there. Which is...interesting. Why would she start there but more importantly why would she be at war with the Wood Elves?
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>>168711010
Kill knife ears!
The Lady wills it!
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>>168710147
Grail knights are immune to fatigue, get a 20% physical resistance when not routing and has a bonus against large.
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>>168711080
the lady is a fucking elf
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>>168710918
>peasants had them

They don't, just the cav units.
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>knights of the realm have anti-large
>questing knights, who want to earn the grail by performing great deeds and slaying monsters, have anti-infantry
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>>168710092
Cannons are strictly anti-large. They should be firing at everything bigger than a horse, and then getting in to melee with enemy infantry once there are no other targets to fire upon.
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>>168710715
Sounds like your cousin might be retarded. Especially if he plays Europa Universalis.
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>>168711102
Doesn't mean she has to like her kind.
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>>168710092
Shoot expensive cavalry / infantry, they have just 1 cannon (unlike the 2-4 you get from cannon units)

Use their Terror to break wavering enemies and use them as good chariots (they can also be healed with Lore of Life, which is broken as fuck)

Just stay away from anything with armor piercing
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what are the most important dlcs on warhammer? I'm thinking about getting it for 12$ on humble bundle
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Shown on stream:

>Grail Reliqae
>Battle Pilgrims
>Foot Knights
>Knights Errant
>Questing Knights

Not seen but confirmed:

>Hippogryph Knights
>New Trebuchet version
>New Peasant Bowmen version
>Alberic
>Fay Enchantress

I'm still hoping for:

>Green Knight with special mechanic
>Some kind of Pike Levy
>Truffle Hounds
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>>168711194
Lore of Life isn't broken, it's just marginally better than all the other shit Lores in this game.
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>>168711397
>Foot Knights
They're Foot Squires
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>>168711392
Blood and Gore
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>>168710753
>2.13 MB
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quick where do i settle as the ostrogoths
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>>168711010
Because she's a beauttiful HUMAN female with disdain for inhuman knife eared filth?
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>>168711587
Brettonia
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>>168711587
italy
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>>168711450

might get Foot Knights after all then, as the ultimate infantry option

they are in the 8th edition codex, after all
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>>168711570
>living in the 3rd world
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>>168711521
Why did they make these have such shitty graphical quality? They're supposed to be pre-rendered, right? Even the benchmark at average settings looks like a bullshot compared to those intro vids.

>muddy textures and zero AA or AF
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>>168710918
who is this semen demon
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>>168711587
in east gothia
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>>168711191
fucking race traitors, i hate them
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Would the Romans at the height of their power have been able to defeat any of the Warhammer factions?
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>>168712253
yeah just knock over the figurines
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>>168712253
No because powerlevels
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>>168712253
Empire has so many tools to fuck with the Romans and they have the manpower. Assuming the Empire doesn't have to deal with anybody else aka a 1v1 with the romans.
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>>168712253
Magic, much more advanced technology and monsters seem a bit hard to deal with
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>>168711397
>Foot Knights
>purist face when
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Did you praise Tengri today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1JyWgVfnI
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>>168710141
rollerorning.
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>>168712907
Ulric´s Will!
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>>168712720
Squires, NOT foot knights
They're a poor mans Greatswords
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>>168712253
>Magic
>Gunpowder
>Tanks
>Monster cavalry and mounts
No
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>>168712253
Maaaaaaaaybe Ogres but it would be a pyrrhic victory at best
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>>168710715
Classic paracucks
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>>168710147
>Foot Squires (GW infantry, weaker than Greatswords)
>Grail Reliqaue gives massive leadership bonus to peasants.
>Knight Errants
>Questing Knights
>Archer variants (none shown just mentioned)
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>>168710715
We have all been in a similar phase.
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>>168711748
I don't think they're pre-rendered, but if they are it's still only using in-game assets, which I don't blame them for even though CG movies are pretty nice.
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>>168713751
but they're not using any graphical settings above shit, that makes little sense to me. surely if its live-generated, it aught to use the player's graphical settings, it looks wrong
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The questing knights looked strong as fuck, 38 melee attack and 36 defense with 46 damage, of which most of it is likely to be AP
They're going to destroy shit like chaos knights and dwarfs much better than grail knights are, unless the antilarge that grail knights get is actually significant
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>>168710141
rollings
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Rock the boat!
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>>168710141
Roll
pls no dorfs
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So does winning the stream viewers thing mean we get another shitty prize?
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>>168711137
>the real monster is man
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First MWNL reward code, don't want it.

HIZLT-FDZ7Q-H40V6

7CVJY-TYIPW-4XHMX
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>>168712253
>Germans with magic and tech some fourteen centuries ahead of the Romans
>super-powered Frenchmen with magic and tech about a millenium ahead of the Romans
>big angry Vikings powered by evil gods swinging swords the size of a man and clad in really heavy armor and supported by spooky monsters
>millions of angry green dudes with monsters and funny magic
>tiny dudes with lots of gun and helicopters
>hordes of undead
>angry goatmen with creepy magic
>Tree Hitler and friends

Well I'd say their chances are pretty low. Maybe they can beat a beastmen warband but that would be stretching it already.

Now the more interesting question is: Would te Romans win if their own gods became reality in the Warhammer universe?
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>Dow and endless disqualified

Rules for tomorrow : 100 point for winning at their own game , -100 for loosing at their own game , 50 point for winning against Sega champion , -50 for loosing against Sega champion

Coh 2 is gonna win isnt it ?
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>>168715010
Nah Dogbert got it, no way sega "champion" will win
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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Wait so people are now making better maps and full siege maps? holy shit that must be funny. can I see a video of one?
Also whats the info on Bretonnia? how big a roster will they have?
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>>168715160
but the question is , is dogbert gonna be able to beat coh2 at their own game and make them loose at total war
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Also since they are making full siege maps will CA be forced to do it now?
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I uploaded this battle to youtube in HD if anyone is interested. Didn't put any commentary on it. Decided, I'll keep practicing but I wont upload anything i'm not proud of. But this replay was too fun to not upload.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUna_ce2h1I
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>>168715248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMtQZ9gpag maps

Bret going to have full tabletop roster
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>>168714690
They don't even have stirrups m8
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>>168715248
quite a big one

>fucking artifact giving 16 leadership to peasants
>grail knights immune to fatigue
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>>168715343
He probably lose at coh2 but that doesn't matter as long as he wins all tw games

also why the fuck dow2 have 100 points?
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>>168715443
are brets going to have dragons? when are they gonna add dragon units? but cool that they will have the full tabletop roster, how many were missing?
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>>168711392
Depends what faction do you wanna play mostly / at first.
Dwarfs or Greenskins? The King and The Warlord.
Empire or Vampires? The Grim and The Grave.
Chaos Warriors? Chaos Warriors Race Pack.
Wood Elves? Realm of The Wood Elves.
Beastmen? Call of the Beastmen.

Blood for the Blood God is always worth it, even if it's just cosmetic.
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>sega is cutting content and giving it back if some who wins at their shitty game show.
I fucking hate sonic so fucking much.
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>>168715554
either they won the highest score at whatever game was in the event or the sega judge said their stream was the most entertaining
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>>168715428
Also here's the minimap in webm form and at 4x speed, since I the video is only in cinematic mode.
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they are pretty cool for actually not raging about the whole campaign maps thing and adding support for it.
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>>168715680
Are you retarded or it's a bait? Asking for a friend
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To save anyone else looking it up, CA segment starts around 3:27:20 on the sega stream's 2nd video.
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>>168715773
thats because its only battle maps , if it was the grand campaign map being modded and adding new regions they would scream
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Few days ago I started up a m2tw campaign for old times sake and in 60 turns I realized why I stopped playing in the first place. How do I stop the ai from build fucking artillery? They're making stacks of 14 catapults and a few militias and is so tiresome just sprinting my line at them, hoping they don't rng my general. I just want to have fun.
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>>168715554
Maybe DOW2 won the fishing challenge.
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What's a good gobbo army comp for vh/legendary?
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>>168710715
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>>168716013
Why include a general in armies that fight chaff anon?
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>>168710715
>a europea universalist player shitting on sega dlc when paradox release 300 dlcs all at 15 euros for all their strategy game

what a fucking retard
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Holy mother of diplomacy, Jesus Christ this game is fucking AMAZING
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What time is the challenge tomorrow?
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>>168715010
As long as he doesn't lose at TW we should be fine. However :

> Dogbert admitted that he lost a shitty quest battle on hard difficulty

I'm nervous
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>>168716615
12PM GMT
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>>168716527
Wait, isn't it way too early for Chaos ? Templehof & Schwartzhafen are alive, how did both WoC's spawn ?!
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>>168716752
Never too early for fun!
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>>168716527
Where are the Elves?
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>>168716752
How better you do in the game, the earlier they spawn
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>apparently Bretonnia gameplay will be diplomacy heavy to the point when you will get faction wide debuffs for war with other Bret factions
So it's going to be shit, because TW diplomacy is shit.
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>>168715987
well battle maps are good but I didnt even think of the actual grand campaign map. what are the chances of people figuring it out.
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>>168716752
It's turn 140ish, I have no idea how Templehof and Schwartzhafen are still around. They are both buddies with the Counts.

>>168716945
After those cuck losers declared war on me around turn 40, I assblasted Orion's army to oblivion and then went to burn down the Oak, only to find 3 Bretonnian stacks, 2 Beastmen stacks, and an Estalia stack already there. Still burned every last village to the ground, tho.
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>>168716235

Because when my general was a lad these cunts tried to kill his whole family and as a man he's led his people through the dark times to emerge as the dominant power in the world and a big part of that story is him leading his men to the far corners of the world fighting epic battles and it's the only reason I play this 10 year old game and I don't get that when every fucking battle is against *chaff*.
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w-what's up a-a-archaon
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>>168715956
I was watching it but the roster they were showing us wasnt the full one right, any more new stuff if its the full roster? They didn't use the magic carriage thing actually. the new dead knight thing was cool though.
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>>168718043
Things that weren't shown that we know exist:
Hippogryph knights
Different archer variants
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Does Empire really has no fancy elite shield infantry?

Also how come Bretonnian greatswords have shields but lower stats overall and they dont use shields for shit?
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I played and finished a short campaign with the vampires and I have to say chaos ruins the game. I cant stand how retarded it is. I hope they change it in the next expansion. them just showing up all OP is just plain annoying and its not fun.
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>>168717090

Tw diplomacy is only shit when you play on hard campaign dificulty because the point of that setting is you against the world. If you weren't so hardcore and played a normal or easy campagin dificulty it's not that bad at all.

But then you get too much money and all your family turns into wasteful degenerates.
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>>168718257
>VCs
You can literally have buffer zones of corpse mountains
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>>168718316
no I did own most of the north but because of chaos I just got fed up and once I beat them by massing units and quick battling and then having to run around catching that fuckhead I just didn't want to beat the rest of the world. It feels unfinished or something idk just really meh.
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>>168718316
Chaos makes VC so fucking easy.
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Will Bretonnia have regiment of renown?
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>>168718478
Can Counts get Lightning Strike? That's been saving my ass SO much in my Empire campaign.
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>>168718616
Sure they can.
Also unlike Empire VCs can simply roll you over with skellies and not mass rout
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>>168711397
>>Green Knight with special mechanic

According to someone who went to the show he's a faction mechanic who shows up on occasion to help your faction. No info beyond that.
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Is there a mod (for Warhammer) to make the AI stop playing so defensive and actually exit their cities for once? A mod that jumps amps aggressiveness?
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>>168718928
Someone should apply elf ai to all factions.
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>>168718928
Very hard difficulty?
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>>168717094
well considering that the campaign maps managed to be moded in previous titles , i wouldnt be surprised some find out
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>>168718759
VCs are built to CAUSE mass rout
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>>168719051
Does that make them more aggressive? I thought it just gives you public order penalties
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>From Reddit

Here is a list of all the things I remembered:

-3 starting locations: Leon in Brettonia, Alberic in Bordelaux, Fey Enchantress in Carcassone

-Each one seems to start with 2 regions each, a full province representing their territory. A nice change from the start with a single region we've had so far (Poor Empire suffers so much from it)

-Green Knight is a hero, but cannot be recruited. Instead he shows up randomly and stays with your faction for a few turns then is gone.

-2 main recruitment buildings in the 'red' slot for towns that are focused on unlocking knight troops. For peasants, most are recruited from the 'infrastructure' buildings

-Technology tree divided in 2 -> economy and knightly order, delving into one will bring penalties to your campaign related to the other. Invest into only one if you're ok with the penalties, or invest in each in a steady fashion, your call.

-Brettonia is known for having its forests and the nearby mountain infested with orcs, so they get events focused on that, such as a reduction in growth because off-screen orcs raided their lands

-All Brettonia faction are somewhat friendly with each other, so you don't have to go to to war with each other. Diplomacy is meant to be easy with each other and confederation comes later on once you've researched the technology for it.

-If you do go to war with Brettoni factions, the others will not like it one bit. Brettoni civil wars come with penalties, but you can do it anyway if you don't care about them

-New units that were not shown in the stream that I remember: Royal Hypogryph knights, Royal Pegasus knights (better version of regular pegasus knights), variant of Trebuchet that throws magic projectiles blessed by the Lady herself. There might have been more but they were either shown in the stream, or I forgot them
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>>168710141
role
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>>168719249
It does both
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>>168719051
>>168718971
I think he means the AI meeting your armies on the field even they are not 100% sure to win.
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>>168719257
>Invest into only one if you're ok with the penalties, or invest in each in a steady fashion, your call.


Seems like a neat way to simulate a very slowly evolving medieval society.
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>just ordered an rx 480

time for some sick grafix desu
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>>168719257
>Fey Enchantress in Carcassone
Weird choice
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>>168716527

>Allied with the fucking Vampires

Someone get the torch, we got a heretic to burn here.
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>>168718035


>6 hellcannons

Enjoy getting half your army obliterated before they even reacht he enemy.
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>>168719335
>ai is cautious about battles
Sounds logical to me.
I would like them not marching around just out of my grasp and sacking my shit though, its tedious.
>>168719497
>magical Frenchmen evolve at all
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WHEN ARE THE FUCKING DLC DISCOUNTS GONNA HIT THE FUCKING STEAM STORE

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>168719583
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>>168719662
hopefully if we win , sega might allow us to have reduced prices for dlc but i expect some meme reduction like -10%
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>>168719658
That's the thing. They're too cautious. If I have an Empire 20/20 stack and they do too sitting in their city, you expect them to meet in the field 50/50 right? Nope, they just continue sitting in their city as they force you to raid endlessly or siege vs their garrison
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>>168718867
>it's a grail WAAAAGH episode
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>>168719838

Do what people did irl back then, siege forever and let the hungry population do your work for you.
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>>168719978
Thats why its a GREEN knight you know
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>tfw just assassinated Archaon
Suck my penis you big loser
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>>168720409
>the assasin told the CHOSEN that Archy boi skipped the leg day
>CHOSEN just beat Archy to death
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>>168719257
>3 starting locations: Leon in Brettonia, Alberic in Bordelaux, Fey Enchantress in Carcassone
So you start at the top, centre, or bottom of bretonnia. Should add some variety.

Yes, I'm aware this image is somewhat out of date.
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I CAN TAKE MORE OF YOU. C'MON
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Poor little beast guy.
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>>168720543
Rip Karak Izor.
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>GREEN KNIGHT ISNT RECRUITABLE AND SHOWS UP RANDOMLY
>BRETTONIA GETS A CHIVLARY METER
HAHHAHAHAAH
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Short, dumb, stunty SCUM
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>>168721024
That's a fitting mechanic for the Green Knight desu
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>>168721024
>chivalry meter

What else could they give them aside from a Crusade mechanic?
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>>168721024
To be honest its fits more that Beastman waagh
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>>168721136
Grail quests like Grudges that give you one-off one turn buff card to your army?
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>>168721024
Grail paths when?
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>>168721024

OOOOUUIIIIGH
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>>168720298
>GREENskins
>GREEN knight
wtf I hate bretonia now!
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>>168720916
Be strong, Vladimir, the snow will burry the dead.
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>>168711194
They have a gyrocopter gun on top of the cannon though. And they seem to splash damage like lords with their short charge thing.

Now I have to try how good their charge is. I never once tried it since it's a missile unit.
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>>168718164

>empire
>hiding behind shields like pussys

lmao
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>>168721461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Xu6T5gIns
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>>168721371

Grail quests are undertaken by individuals, not entire armies.
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>>168721024
>Green knight is made out of spiral power
>the more bretonians belive in victory and honor, the more spiral power they gather
>when they gather enough power, knights combine into a green knight
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>>168721605
How about i call it "Favor of the Lady" mechanic?
Bretonnia does have crusades no?
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>>168719257

>implying the first thing I'm going to do isn't going to be taking Marienburg. Fuck the individual human factions. I'll be diplomatic with the Empire.
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>>168721534
The Steam Tank is a 200-Armor chariot with huge staying power and easy to pull out of most fights

It's cannons are just the cherry on top, the thing is a melee monster
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>>168721718
>cucking the empire of taking the wasteland

beautifull
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>>168721718

Bretonia and Empire, BFF.
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>>168721024
>Lore of Heavens
Is that something new or is it just Celestial/Light?
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>>168721710
How about "Good bret points"?
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Friend says the Warhammer deserves the bad reviews, because it was unfinished at launch and the DLC is overpriced.

Is he right? I disagree that it was unfinished as it was advertised as 4 factions, and Bretonnia was never planned for original release.
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>>168721932
if it makes CA actually do good dlc practices, then yeah it's deserved.
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>>168721808
How the fuck is it a melee monster.
Realistically it would get stuck in corpses after a single charge.
>>168721932
Well its much more polished than Rome 2 was for comparison BUT DLC is truly truly Paradox tier pricey. Its aggravated because you gotta have DLC for using same units in MP.
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>>168721932
Fuck the bad reviews.
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>>168721932
WoC should have been included and it was a dick move.
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>>168721917
No, it's the lore they had all along

Celestial = Lore of Heavens

>>168721932
Only the faction DLC is overpriced (because of the fucking minicampaigns), but the base game is mostly fine and doesn't deserve the bad rating

Also, bretonnia was planned to be FLC since before launch
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>>168721808
Right, the thing just blew right through the orc boys and killed 8 while doing so. I then realized that you can kite with it since the turret can shoot backwards on the move, and the thing has a speed of 50. And since it's totally unimpeded by infantry, you can just charge again and again with no worries...

>>168722068
>realistically
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>>168721932
No,the game was completely playable and dlc is in the game buying it just makes it playable
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>>168721932

>disregarding the progress a game makes after a launch

Your friend is a moron. Some of the DLC is overpriced but the quality has been good so far, and there has been plenty of free updates to the game, including upcoming Bretonnia.
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>>168722185
Also I just noticed that

>-80 leadership after a single charge
Whew, those penalty stacks.
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when I see a girl in a sallet, ima start strokin' my mallet
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>>168722296
the quantity of content isn't sufficient for the asking price unless all of it was sold as a $20 pack
the quality is only "okay"
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>>168722185
>losing 10% of hp on a single charge vs base orc boyz

Wait isnt it Ork or thats only for 40k?
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>>168722384
No it fucking isn't. Its great
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>>168722439
Only for 40k
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>>168721932
>caring about 30 bucks
lmao, fucking hobo
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>>168722068
>Realistically
Good thing this is Warhammer :^)

The steam tank is:
>Unbreakable
>Terror-inducing
>200 armor, highest in the game

to top it off, the auxiliary (steam) gun, doesn't care if you are in the middle of combat, IIRC
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>>168722553
>terror-inducing
All the strong factions in game dont give a shit about this
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>>168722802
>works on empire
>works on VC (forces crumbling)
>works on welves
>works on dwarves
>works on Chaos (not on Shaggoths, but AI doesn't field them for some reason)
>orks and gobbos lol
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>>168722802
They still suffer from "damaged by artillery -10" and "under missile fire -5 (from the steam gun)" which is a rather redundant stack of LDR penalties if you ask me. What other unit can cause both of these and still excel in melee?
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>>168723504
Chosen with Greatweapons. You don't need terror when everyone is fucking dead around you.
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>>168721932
The DLC is pretty well priced, and the amount of free content you get alongside it should have alleviated the bitter feelings.
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>>168721932
The game is simplified and the DLC is over priced (At least the faction packs are, personally I'm fine with the rest.)

But other wise It's been my favorite game of last year and probably this year to. I hate to say it but I think your friend is being a bit of a unfair dickhead.

Especially considering how the DLC has been handled. All the Free content and updates, the fact that even if you don't own a faction or DLC you can still fight against it as a NPC faction. Like the game still need work for sure but on it's own it's pretty good and slowly getting better with time.
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>>168723619
...including the chosen that got wrecked by artillery on the way to melee
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>carcassone actually confirmed by pcgamer as the starting position for the fay enchantress

I guess I was actually btfo by the carcassone poster.
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>>168723630
>DLC culture is a thing
No matter how much it costs its fucking you in the ass. We couldve simply gotten the game with all factions 2 months later with no milking CA bullshit on us.
>>168723808
> the fact that even if you don't own a faction or DLC you can still fight against it as a NPC faction
>meanwhile you cannot use DLC units in MP
Yeah thanks bro.
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>>168723953

But does this mean that Brets gets three factions?
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>>168724060

Three starting positions, not three factions, just like beastmen
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>>168722553

steam tank has 160 armor you git
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>>168723923
Artillery doesn't give a fuck. Hell, it can fuck up a demi unit, and those guys are literally the best monster and cavalry unit in the game.
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>>168724249

So if you start with any other lord than Louie then your main province is going to be left undefended.

Nice.
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Recently finished my first very hard campaign, playing as Durthu. Pretty fun but i managed to win around turn 85 give or take. Got 25 amber from an alliance whit the dwarfs while protecting the empire from chaos.

But i run into an problem every single campaugn that i play, and that is constantly feeling like i should be expanding.

It made me wonder if i am just rushing things? Like if its possible to just turtle whit a few regions until Chaos comes knocking?
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>>168724249
Did they confirm it's different starting positions and not factions?
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>>168724249
>implying CA won't force you to confederate to get the other two LLs
Hope you shitty skill selections on your legendary lords!
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>>168724454
they all get a province sold pine
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>>168724060
>>168724249
>>168724454
No its 3 diff factions, each one will start out with full control of their province

>Fay enchantress in carcassone
>Alberic in Bordelaux
>Leon in Courrone
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So when the enemy is charging at me should I stay put or charge into them?
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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>>168723962
>We couldve simply gotten the game with all factions 2 months later with no milking CA bullshit on us.

I dont believe that would happen though, we are over 6 months in and Bretonnia are not even out.

The game would be shit in comparison because the players opinions have helped to develop the game, CA listened to what people want and developed down that path.

If the game came out sometime later this year it would have half the content missing, and there would be less variety in abilities and starts.

The team that did the post launch content completely blew the fuck out of the main team in terms of quality of content.
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>>168724754
>inf charging your inf
counter charge unless your infantry have expert charge defence

>cav charging your inf
stay put for bracing bonus

>inf/cav charging your cav
counter charge
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>Almost forgot, Brettonia factions get a new bar similar to the grudges for dwarves. This bar represents your chivalrous nature, and the more chilvarous you are, the more it is filled. With each rank of chivalry you attain, you get campaign and battle bonuses.


source is https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5uu50a/brettonia_campaign_information_from/
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>>168725086
YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>tfw Based Gelt
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>>168725196
>I am no orator
>proceeds to give a great speech
gelt you dumb shit.
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>>168725196

>lore of metal
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>>168725086
>be standup guy, have high steadfast and chivalrous ratings
>suddenly, Ally #1 decides to declare war on Ally #2
>whoever you back, you count as breaking a treaty
>now as well as steadfast going down, you lose your chivalry bonuses, all because the AI is stupid
I can't fucking wait.
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>>168724316
One upgrade in the tech tree and one in the lords improves that. I don't know if it stacks up to 200 but possible
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>>168725196
Blazing Sun guys are supposed to be regular ass knights. It's weird to see them get magic weapons as if they were grail knights.
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>>168725494
>alyying
non-aggression pacts are enough
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>>168719257
>ywn chain the Elven whore in dungeon, forcing her to bless stones all day every day
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>>168725494
Defensive alliances are the only way to go
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>>168725361
Can't believe it hasn't been fixed by CA yet, it would be so simple

>Gehenna's Golden Hounds/Searing Doom give off a sundered armor effect
>Transmutation of Lead/Final Transmutation give an additional speed debuff
>fix final transmutation tooltip so we know what it is actually good against
>Make plague of rust actually give a substantial armor debuff
>glittering robe gives additional magic/phsyical resist
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>>168724723
>Fay enchantress in carcassone
Hard

>Alberic in Bordelaux
Medium

>Leon in Courrone
Easy
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>>168726191
Easy at first, but after a while you'll need to keep an army garrisoned up there to chase off skaeling fucking shits.
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>>168721024
WHERE IS THE ERRANTRY WAR MECHANIC?!
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Why are Spet Xyons so op holy shite
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>>168726308
>not going immediately to Norsca
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>>168725539
>myrmidia
>not blessing them with the power of SCIENCE
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>>168724754
>>168724948
>skirmishers
juke around and try and bait as many units as possible into charging while your infantry/proper cavalry force charges into the openings created
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>>168726418
because CA clearly stopped giving a fuck about balance towards the end of Attila
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Where can I see the new Bretonnia units without having some stuttering brit talk about them?
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>>168726686

Go to Reddit.
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>>168726308
>tfw no Bretonnian navy to sink chaos fucking shit
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How good computer I need to run Warhammer? If I can run Doom at mostly highest at 120 frames I should be ok?
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>>168726904
>peasant society
Who the fuck builds those
>>168726980
If you can run Atilla or Rome 2 you can run this.
Strategies were never THAT hardware intensive anyway.
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>>168726980

I play with decent framerate on a R9 270x.
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>>168727086
>Who the fuck builds those

The merchant class in the cities.
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Why we cannot play him?
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>>168725361
>still no "summon Manowar concert" spell
>give your troops "immune to psychology" and "unbreakable"
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>>168727086
>Who the fuck builds those
The people living in the big coastal cities i.e. not-peasants.
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>>168726613
>>168724948
ty
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>>168725196
Why is that house sinking?
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>>168727325
Someday.
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>>168727325

In due time, anon. In due time.
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>>168727325
Because the faction unlocker mods haven't been updated since CA redid the faction selection screen.
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>>168727573
It was built by snow nigger illegals.
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Fay Enchantress vs Wood Elfs and Beastmen.
Alberic vs Mousillon.
Louen vs Greenskins and Marienburg.

Is this what one should expect in Bretonnia's early campaign?
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>>168724316
my bad then

still highest armor in game tho
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>>168725196
yo what's the mod tho
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>>168727796
I'm pretty sure Alberic going to be annoyed by beastmen too
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>>168727796
Frenchmen buttfucking French on legendary.
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>>168727796
Nah. Early game all bretonnians will be fighting karaks hirn and ziflin, after the mad dwarf cunts declare war for no reason.
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>>168727796
Louen vs Marienburg and Skealings
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>>168726479
Myrmidia is Goddess of Strategy and War, kinda Warhammer version of Athena or Bellona.
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>>168727086
I can run r2 maxed out but I can't play attilaor warhammer without toning down something, may be because I'm on nvidia though
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>>168728215
>toning down
Whats the problem again? You will obviously run the thing in a way or another, as long as textures are on high settings game will look nice.
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>>168726125
>fix final transmutation tooltip so we know what it is actually good against
>"Good against nothing"
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>>168728215
it's the cpu nigguh
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>>168728206
and knights of the blazing sun are not averse to using technology and knowledge to better their martial prowess.
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Does anyone know when the Warhammer keys on humble bundle ship?

My IRL friend who I've been trying to get to play Total War for a long time is getting this and I've never gotten anything from humble bundle before.
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>>168728313
wastes WoM pretty well
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Who is going to be fighting in the tournament tomorrow?
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>>168728295
Not a problem per se, it's just that It's certainly heavier than R2
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>>168728326
I second this.
Here is a standard weapon they used on horseback before end times.
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>>168727796
E S T A L I A
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>>168728215
both R2 and especially Attila run like dogshit

Warhammer runs fantastic for me on a 970

new drivers etc
also if you have that shit of gforce experience get rid of it
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>>168728791
Really? I've found Attila runs better on my pc than Rome 2. I mean the perfomance still leaves much to be desired but the difference is qutie noticable.
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>>168728791
I'm the anon you quoted and R2 runs smooth as hell for me, will try getting rid of experience to see if attila/warhammer get better
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>>168728215
Rome 2 is much better optimised than Attila dunno why
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>>168719978
Nah, he's a hero, and it doesn't seem to be tied to anything like fightiness. Just he'll randomly show up, you can use him for a few turns, and he fucks off again to continue screwing Lileath until another Bretonnian faction gets their turn.
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Anyone have the Attila roll chart?
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>>168729451
What about his skills and levels?
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>>168724872
This guy gets it
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I thought WH was 12 bucks on Humble Bundle but its some weird fucking monthly subscription meme.
Can you cancel immediately after getting the key?
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why is Grimgor such a nigger?

>he joins in depredations in eastern badlands when I'm getting steamrolled there by 2 other armies
>he single handedly beats a garrison army and leaves pic related behind afterward
>he sanic speeds across the map with 5 units of catapults sacking and razing all my settlements as I chase him in his wake with a full stack that could be used to finish up the greenskins instead
seriously FUCK this cunt
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>>168729525
GC right?
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>>168729558
We don't know, the guy who attended the Weekender and reported back didn't say.
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>>168729719
Build walls nigga what are you doin
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>>168728101
Right, I forgot about the Chaos Dawi.
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>>168717090
TW diplomacy works perfectly fine if you pay attention to it, up to and including hard campaign
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>>168729986
uhhhhhhhh excuse me? Chaos Dawi? The correct term is Dawi Zharr and therefore Fire Dwarf. Please don't embarrass yourself in the future.
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>>168729719
NPC faction's last hope of ever being relevant
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>>168730273
Yeah, because Hashut is no way Chaos, right?
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>>168729692
yes
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>>168729692
puriso respondoka
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>>168730554
Hashut is a deity volcano dorfs thought up in desperation you simpleton
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>>168729719
I wish you had the option to shit on a settlement after sacking it with the greenskins
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>>168730609
>>168730634
haha wow
thanks bud
>>
Anyone know when the King and the Warlord dlc last went on sale? Also, any good overhaul type of mods for Warhammer yet?
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>>168726125
Should have a spell that does damages equal to their armor rating.
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>>168730684
So he totally wasn't a powerful daemonic servant of Khorne that rebelled and got imprisoned underground until the Dwarfs dug too deep and instead of being killed by Balrog they decided to worship him?
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>>168730554
Only an American could've replied to a shitpost this way
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>>168726308
>Skaeling
Bretonnia is a terrible match up for them
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>>168729757
Yep, thanks! Rolling now.
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>>168731321
Anon, I'm a Slav.
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>>168731295
Nah, dorfs got lost in a massive Chaos storm and in desperation called for a savior which in turned formed local Chaos energies into a personification of it.
Like how Eldar work in 40k.
>>
Does accuracy affect Hojo hand mortars and artillery in shogun 2? (not FOTS)
>>
So are all the starting Lords of Brettonia sperate factions? Does that mean that unless you confederate you only will have a single LL? I like the different startng positions but only having a single LL for a faction is kinda lame. Partly why i dislike belegar or skarsnik because even if you Confederate, it's later on and the ai has fucked the skill development on the other Lords.
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>>168731496
yes, Nowadays most americans online are slavs.
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The pastebin in the OP mentions that for Attila you can alt+right mouse click to move units in their current formation.
I am doing this and the formations are breaking and it is just defaulting to putting everyone in a big line. Has it been changed or am I doing something wrong?
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>>168729719

Dawi scum
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>>168731895
Never been to America.
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>>168731065

>DLC
>sale

Pick one.

The only time they've gone on sale is when preordering.
>>
Pics of new Bret units???
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>>168725325
>He's never heard of orators saying the opposite of what is true in a speech
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>>168725325
>Not knowing one of the oldest rhetorical tricks.
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>>168732727
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>>168732727
I've got two quick pics I snapped in the stream, but they're pretty shitty.
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>>168732008
You hold alt and drag them with left mouse
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>>168733067

fukkin sic brah
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>>168732008
Alt+right click and drag should work
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>tfw you're getting bored of shallow Warhammer and want a new historical game already

We've exhausted the fuck out of Rome at this point. Give us something new.
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>>168732727
And the 2nd.
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>>168733180

Nice, I like the look of the squires, a lot more than greatswords.

we m2 now boyz
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>>168730273
Everything that does not follow the Lady is filthy chaos in my opinion.
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>>168733371
Why are their shields upside down?
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>>168733369
nice try, but too obvious.
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>>168733180
They look pretty awesome. Fuck you
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>>168733369
But anon, we are getting Bretonnia which is basically the closest we'll ever get to M3.
Also didn't CA say they want to make new DLC for one of the historic titles?
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>>168733551
How the fuck should peasants know how to fight you filthy imperial
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Empire Total War with all the dlcs. Yay or nay? Have factions enough differencies between them?
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>>168733369
MK/RoM
>>
Chances of us getting more brettonia information tomorrow?
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>>168733551
When they lift them up and put their arms across their chest they'll be right-side up.
>>
>>168731703

pls respond
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>>168733723
>Have factions enough differencies between them?
Arr Europeans rook the same.
Ottomans and Maratha are different enough from Europeans.
Britain is the only European faction with some unique units. Everybody else is pretty much the same except for maybe one unique unit.
Poland has an absolutely retarded troop tree.

I'd rather get Napoleon instead. It does gunpowder based warfare much better than Empire and isn't a cluncky/buggy mess.
>>
>>168733369
Medieval 3 light going to be out on feb 28
>>
>everyone assumed that CA will Jew us with 3 obligatory new units tops
>it's like 10, some of them are completely OC
There's hope for Ulrican units after all, lads
>>
>>168734208
They've got to do something inbetween now and the next game, which still hasn't had any release date announced
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>>168733603
>barbs

Those are just Scots, anon.
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>>168733723
Napoopan for gameplay, Empire for scale and agency.
>>
>Got mail from sega, today gifts is Golden axe 2 and dlc for endless legend
>A fucking soundtrack dlc
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>>168734381
I thought these are Scots?
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>>168733569

not sure what you're getting at, sperg?
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>>168734591
you mean youre not baiting nerds?
>>
>>168733406
It was fun when Fay Enchantress, Morgiana Le Fay was turned into a vampire by Mannfred, imprisoned and then sacrificed by Arkhan to resurrect Nagash.
>>
I started total war games with warhammer, as I was a big fan of the setting. What's a good faction for my first time playing Attila,which is my first historical?
>>
Why did Celts get bullied throughout history?
>>
>>168734727
Franks are usually a decent go-to.
Might try the Visigoths if you're looking for a potentially highly aggressive faction that starts out nomadic.
>>
>>168734727
Franks or Saxons,use the roll chart
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>>168734502
10/10 soundtrack tho
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>>168734727
Depend how many dlc you have
But Francs are not bad start
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>>168734727

Western Roman Empire, they have a very easy campaign compared to others.
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>>168734701
Wow, how did he even manage to reach up to her neck?
>>
>>168728791
>also if you have that shit of gforce experience get rid of it
any reason as to why?
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>>168735030
Hilarius
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>>168734937
DAPP7-WA49Q-A2Z90
If someone wants it.
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Golden Axe 2 - I5MWT-697PP-05WEC
Endless Legend - Echoes of Auriga Add-on - CJRR7-M7BNZ-XJNLY
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>>168734381

what's the difference?
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Can someone post that image of mannlet with the "vladdies boy" written on him?
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>>168735426
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>>168734562
>face profiles
I think Sigmarites are Irish
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>>168735468

Thanks anon!
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>>168735468
>Mannfred gets Nagash revived
>Nagash revives Vlad
>All of Mannfred's supporters leave him to kneel before Vlad

The best part of the End Times.
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>>168735293
thanks breh
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>>168734079
>>168734429
Ok but I dont get thw differences between the Nap. Imperial edition and the normal one.
Also shall I get the dlcs?
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>>168733369

>warhammer too shallow
>wants 51 flavors of human instead

wew
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is it just me or is the elves campaign ai really agressive, i'm about 50 turns in and they're already bordering the vamps and have taken over the southern half of bretonnia
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>>168736000
Apparently there is a ''defensive WE'' mod, but it works like ass.

They are going to conquer 3/4 of Bretonnia minimum in every game.
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Total War: 100,000 BC when?
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>>168736000
>It's another tree hitler destroys the old world and is a larger threat than Chaos, Beastmen and Greenskins combined episode
>It's a repeat

Nah I think it's just you my dude.
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>>168736000
They always end up as the biggest empire in the game

Kind of retarded but hopefully it'll be better in the Bretonnia patch
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>>168736000
Been that way since the "Wood elves play too differently, fix pls", which was 1-2 days after their release

Are you a Slowpoke for any chance? campaign been pretty much unplayable since then

>>168736381
>It's another tree hitler destroys the old world and allies himself with Chaos, Beastmen and Greenskins episode
ftfy
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>>168735819

We get it kiddo, you're a Warhammer faggot who's only here because of one game. You don't actually care about strategy games, and you're just here for EPIC FANTSY XD. A braindead fuck like you doesn't understand the game beyond the diversity of races and factions.

It's cool. You'll fuck off in a year or two when Warhammer gets stale and the people who love history, who've been here since you were in diapers can resume talking about their favorite topics: history and strategy.
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>>168736326

The elite units would be dinosaurs riders.
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>>168736486
>dinosaurs
>100.000 BC
check your history m7
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>>168736480
Is this pasta?
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>>168736578

What? It would be boring with only longswordmen and pikes.
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>>168735736
Best time is when he becomes Nagash's slave in AoS
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Jesus imagine how ridiculous brettonia would be if they got their new roster with the current flying mechanics and old summon mechanics

>elite air cav in pegasus/royal pegasus knights/hippogryph knights
>paladin/hero goon squad all mounted on pegasi
>damsels with the lore of beasts can summon manticores

thank god they are changing the flying mechanics
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>>168736457
yeah i hadn't played since the beastmen dlc released cause i got burned out so this is my first time dealing with these tree cunts
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>>168736739

I haven't looked too much into AoS but it pleases me to know that Mannfred gets cucked once again in the afterlife/rebirth thing that happens.

>destroy the old world
>get cucked in the new one

Pottery
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>>168736480
You.

Yes, you. The one screaming, "Fantasy is shit" and "CA should stick to history" and other slurs I dare not mention. Tread lightly.

You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority. I don't feel awkward or anxious playing Total War Warhammer around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful world that has been carefully crafted for us - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. We Total War Warhammer fans may have our differences, but we will not hesitate to come to the aid of our fellow elector counts, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together. Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you. I pity you.

I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that Total War Warhammer is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful experience. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life. I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Uninstall Atilla, start up Warhammer, and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of your first battle, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.
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>>168736457
>>168736401
>>168736381
If they don't fix it it will ruin Bretonnia's campaign
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>>168736824
Focusing on giving them a super strong air squad is an interesting way of giving them a lategame niche
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>>168736326
Why not simply make African Kingdoms Total War?
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>>168736602
nah but this is >>168736875
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>>168736949
Because no tech advancement for 2000 years gets boring fast
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>>168736879
How can Elves compete vs mass cavalry?
Ai is way too skittish with archers.
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>>168736879
Imagine if the brets decided they had enough of the welf's shit and decided to raze athel loren, making it all the way to the tree of life only to discover that their precious lady is actually some asrai whore
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Is Steel Faith good? How's the balance?
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>>168736949
>EE1
Might have been an objectively worse game compared to other RTS games out at the time but fuck me if I didn't waste a whole lot of time on it making cavemen fight robots in stupid custom scenarios
>>
ANCIENT EMPIRES WHEN
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>>168736480
This is some high quality bait
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Damn, Bretonnia is looking awesome.

When are they going to show us the Regiments of Renown for Bretonnia?
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>>168737081
all of their infantry units except for wardancers and dryads have bonus vs cav
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>>168710141
Rolling :DD
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>>168736949
this game was the tits
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Friendly remainder that the world was destroyed because Mannfred was a traitorous idiot.
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>>168737230

Err never? five factions prior to bret still don't have them, what the fuck makes you think bret will before anyone else?
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>>168734826
it was the opposite for a while when they expanded from Ireland to Anatolia

I reckon their characteristic disorganized fearsome charges suited them for so long because they faced no real opposition in the form of a superior organized army that the Romans had and fucked them with

it always gives me great sadness to think how Celts have pretty much been on the retreat since the monumental arsefucking the Romans gave out that was impossible to recover from, their course of conquest corresponding exactly with the areas that were the heartlands of the Celts in Western Europe
with the way things are going here the Irish language will be gone within my lifetime/this century as well, Welsh I'm not sure about but since it's mainly popular in the more rural North of the country I can't see it doing anything but retreating despite the revival of desire in the populace there to learn it as I see
Scots Gaelic is dying, Manx is dead, Kernowek is long dead, Breton
it's very sad
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>>168737154
>EE1
>missing the best thing ever
THOSE WW1 PLANE DOGFIGHTS MAN
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>>168737391
Yeah, but if the world hadn't been destroyed we would never have got Total Warhammer.
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>>168737154
tfw EE3 literally kill franchise, because it was simplified dead and planned to go on consoles

Late ps2 and early ps3/xbox360 era killed so many good rts
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>>168737448
And very bad accents
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>>168737398
Five? Beastmen. Wood Elves. Warriors of Chaos.
Dwarfs, Greenskins, Empire and Vampire Counts do have them. Am I missing something?
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>>168737639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSQWUiTloMU
It had its charms. Also nobody would have balls to make so many ages now.
>ww1 atomic age
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>>168737398

Wait does skarsnik and belegar have RoR? meh either way there's still a bunch prior to it.
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>>168737891
They sure do.
Skarsnik gets giant ass spider queen with it.
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The Timurid thread is over. There are probably 2 stacks left, but they are not even silver chevrons.
No more elephants, no more incredible cavalry.
They would have died too if not for that snake of a faction leader who retreated from a siege battle that would have killed him.
Now all I need is the big city, controlled by the mongols
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Am I the only one that dislikes the regiment of renown system? It is way too easy to get them, and if the ai is playing as a faction that has them you end up constantly fighting them as the ai re-recruits them 1-2 turns after they are destroyed. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a mod to disable them. I like the units, but I just hate their implementation in campaign. Try fighting late/endgame dwarfs, half your battles will be stacks that are ~half RoR led by one of the Dwarf Legendary lords (Grombrindal, Thorgrim, Ungrim, Belegar). Also it seems based on the Isabella stream CA did that the VC faction will still get the RoR if you are playing as the Von Carsteins, which seems stupid
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>>168738232
Funnily enough, I think in the vanilla game the turks actually have better core stats on their equivalent units to the mongols/timurids. It's just the latter turn up with fuckloads of elite troops and incredible generals, like you say.
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>>168738461
if they were more difficult to get, and they were exclusively owned by the first faction on the map that buys them out, that would be swell.
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>>168738461
I dislike them too because they make game too easy if you use them.
So basically i only start using them once i notice ai i spamming them.
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>>168736875
I wonder how that guy who made the original comment feels about No Man's Sky now.
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>>168737089
It's a pretty neat mod. Basically every unit is more useful and more unique from eachother. The mod is constantly updated(for good or worse).


Just look through the change log. You might get a feel for it that way.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/changelog/704361604
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>>168738461

Id like it alot more if all the current factions had them aswell

Or have some conditions for unlocking the top tier units like win 3 heroic victories or something
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Is the Empire Total War Collection worth it? How is the game Vanilla?
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So where do I go to watch the stream its not on twitch.
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>>168739235
Vanilla is meeeeh to bad.

Darthmod is amazing, imo.
Nothing like playing as some European power and tralel around the word, conquering savages in America, India or Ireland.
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>>168739235
Buggy and unresponsive, even with mods.
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>>168737416
Death of Scots Gaelic is a cultural oppression thing though, it was removed as an official language after the string of revolts the Scots instigated throughout the turbulent relationship with England, so around the Highland clearances it was a case of "learn english or get sent over to the colonies."

Its now listed as one of Scotlands official languages but there just isn't the money to make it a core part of school curriculum to revive it, not if the workforce wants to remain competitive with people who don't have a slot taken up by a second core language class set.
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>>168739319
SEGA's twitch channel. If not, then you are fucked for now.
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>>168736326
Americas campaign with spain disabled (and it sucks dude)
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>>168737416
At least it will be recorded in history and didnt vanish before we invented modern media.
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>>168739965
Anything that's not on paper will be lost anyway
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>>168710141
rolled oats
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>>168710141
Roll
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>>168740128
Paper doesnt save everything.

We dont even know if C in latin is prounced as C or K.
>Veni, vidi, vici
>Veni, vidi, viki
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>>168739198
thanks bud
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>>168740221
unf
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>>168740310
It sure will save more than dvds though. We're already losing the ability to read floppy discs and cds.
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>>168740576
Well you can bet your ass it will be saved as a vid in some archive.
We all know how much issues we had with Latin in middle ages before Italians standardized it based on classical latin (not Vulgar Latin people actually spoke)

Language is an evolving thing.
Hell, even for Deadwood thats 19th century they had to figure out how to redo curse words.
Here, have Anglo-Saxon English and try to understand it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsD4DPg4ls
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>>168740298
Fuck off, I want to play videogames right now.
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>>168740310
I've always read that as VEN-nee, VEE-dee, VEE-see. Is the C actually a hard K? Is my life a total lie?
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>>168741074
>worst dlc
Please reroll.
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neat, so it seems like other tweaks I've noticed, of course subject to change.

>Knights errant and Questing knights are anti infantry
>Knights of the realm and Grail knights are anti large.

I kinda wish questing knights were also anti large with knights of the realm being anti-infantry. but no matter. it allows you to be either cheap or elite in certain roles.
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>>168741167
That's what the germans say, but I wouldn't trust them as the best source on laitn, being from the only region that didn't get conquered by romans
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>>168741302
>karl franz
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>>168741384
>Grail knights immune to fatigue
Pretty great. they also end up fighting the whole match and running around.
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>>168741167
You are reading classical latin that was used for higher classes while lower classes used vulgar latin with dialects.

It was basically a language barrier to fuck you over.
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>>168736000
>>168736201
Yeah, defensive WE doesn't do shit other than delaying the inevitable. I started 2 campaigns with Empire, one with mod one without it. In the modless campaign they attacked me turn 20, in the modded one they attacked after 80.

Tbqh I'd rather fight them in turn 20 too. Now I'm both facing Chaos and Welf invasion, probably destroyed in 30-40 turns
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>>168741637
And to add on this Catholic Church kept using classical latin to fuck you over too.
>want to read the bible?
>go to church and listen it on language you dont understand because fuck you
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>Pick the free bray-shaman at the start of the beastmen campaign
>Always wounds itself next turn
>Pick gorebull instead
>100 turns later try recruiting a bray-shaman
>Wounds itself next turn
Fucking wizards
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> you will never recieve the Red Kiss from Vlad & Isabella and raised as their own child

why even leave the coffin
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>>168742054
>Warhammer vampirism
For fantasy standards they sure have shitty one there.
Now if Jeanette bit me...
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>>168742275
Don't make me reinstall it
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If Gotrek is in the game, will we get Felix too?
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>>168741819
There is a version that prevents them from creating outpost, slowing them substantially.

Has anyone tried it?
Seems like a good alternative.
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>>168742275
>>168742369

Also I'm no fantasyfag so I don't know every one they're in but I generally like vamps in a setting, I don't think Warhammer vamps are bad at all.
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>>168711870
right click and select "search google for this image."
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>>168742417
They need to be the same unit.
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>>168741874
that and the chaos rift/over gyration events are really fucking obnoxious

>>168742054
>ywn have the balding manlet loser mannfred as a brother

feels good man
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>>168742540
Warhammer vamps literally lose humanity after a century or two and become a mockery of the former life they had - either a degenerate power hungry aristocrat or a half-suicidal roaming undead knight
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It's another episode of the dwarves attack you and then corner camp
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>>168710141
rollin'
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>>168742646
Same with Krell and Kemmler desu
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>>168742417
>>168742646
Already a mod out for that lads
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When are we getting the other 3 types of vampires?
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>>168743101
3 other types?
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3 types?
Isabella is on feb 28 and red duke soon too probably
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>>168742716
Isn't it kinda the same in WoD though ? If you survived a few centuries, it means you played the Jyhad game and did well which is degenerate from top to bottom. If you didn't Jyhad and survived anyway, you're definitely suicidal and you're probably roaming.
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So, Skaven have cities underground, how will they work in TW:WH?

Will they just make them a regular horde faction?
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>>168743167
The 5 blood lines of vampires are von carsteins, lahmians, blood dragons, necarachs, and strigoi. They had rules for this in their 6th ed book, but they got dropped in 7th and 8th.

The von carsteins are the basic vamps, lahmains are the socialites that infiltrate humanity, necarachs are focused on necromancy above other vampy stuff, blood dragons are more oriented on being warriors, and strigoi are the degenerate half-ghouls.
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>>168742851
Get arty.
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>>168743167
There are five bloodlines of vampires in Warhammer. We already have the Von Carsteins and the Strigoi, but we do not have Lahmians, Necrarchs, or generic character Blood Dragons (blood knights are troop-level Blood Dragons, and the Red Duke is a named one).
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>Brettonia factions get a new bar similar to the grudges for dwarves. This bar represents your chivalrous nature, and the more chilvarous you are, the more it is filled. With each rank of chivalry you attain, you get campaign and battle bonuses.


I want to die
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>>168743382
>Isn't it kinda the same in WoD though ?

Nah, in WoD it takes them waaaay longer to lose their minds.
People converted in the middle ages is kind of ok in the modern times.
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>>168743445
Skaven will get above ground Skavenblight in Tilea, the Wood Elf colonize ability, and Rat-Paths
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>>168743907
What did you expect? An 'objectives' feature that's utterly boring?
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>>168743907
Hopefully you dont start at max chivalry and have to actually build it up over the course of the campaign
Thats the only way itll feel different from dorfs
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>>168743382
WoD? Nah, there are plenty of WoD vampires that are alive and kicking and kept up with the time. And those that go full weird or crazy are smart enough to stay under the radar unlike Vlad for instance. Manlet Mannfred did do it for a while but blew it.

Remember king cuck Lacroix? If you ask him he says he got turned during Napoleonic Era.
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>>168743907
>even the Wood Elf meatshields are Dorf-like
Humanity & Dorfs confirmed bros
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>>168736949
This game was my childhood. Fucking incredible game.
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>>168743907

What's wrong with it?

The Grudge bar hasn't been reused before and this one doesn't even function like Grudges do so it barely counts as a reused mechanic
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>>168743942
Yeah you have your humanity maybe but you're still a pawn in a game played by "degenerate power hungry aristocrats", is my point
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>>168737639
SAXON DOGS
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>>168744264
God damn I need to finish this game I started it then the hard drive needed to get replaced and I haven't got around to it.
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>>168744486
As far as "degenerate power hungry aristocrats", in WoD you can more or less go off the grid and say fuck it. You dont have to chop heads on a battlefield on a monthly basis.
>>168744678
>he didnt finish it
HERESY
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>>168742851
How do you press 10?
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Is the Colonialism 1600AD mod for Empire any good?
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>>168744769
0
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So wait is Steel Faith trying to get more lore friendly or more balanced?
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>>168745201
More lore friendly. It makes Elves more OP but lessens their numbers for example
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>>168745201
What's going on? Were there some big changes I missed?
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>>168744762
> in WoD you can more or less go off the grid and say fuck it

..and yet most Kindred hang around others, they formed 3 huge societies basically.

I'd personally take being comfy as fuck in Drakenhof to being a Sabbat shovelhead desu
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How would point based armies in campaign work?
Making it so you cannot exceed a certain upkeek per stack so you cannot just spam elites.
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>>168745371
Guess I'll play that instead of Vanilla then, if it turns out I like it. I'm a dirty lorefag
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>>168724469
If you want to turtle as Welves you could fight enemies of factions, get the reputation boost with them, and then ally with them to get your amber reward. Play expeditionary/horde elves with a base back in Athel Loren. Attacking Norsca and Orcs & Gobbos seem the obvious targets, but could be others.
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>>168745539
How is Drakenhof comfy again?
Head honcho wont just let you be a lounge lizard in the castle for all eternity unless you were a highborn aristocrat. Hell,you would get bored after a decade or two.
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>>168746039
True. What fun is there in eternal life and vampire magic if you don't topple and empire or two on the weekend?
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>>168746039
I mean my whole premise was based on being turned and raised by Vlad & Isabella

Of course most other scenarios are horrible :^)
>>
Gryphons are so majestic and beautiful.
I want one.
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>>168746419

You're not allowed to fuck it
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>>168746467
Can I fuck deathclaw?
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>>168746268
It gets bored after a dozen of times.
If Mannfred became Emperor he would become bored in like 25 year tops and just relegate it to undead aristocracy.
>>168746330
Pls no autismo lad.
Also its much more fun to do it the other way around.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Promethean:_The_Created
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>>168746509
You can try. But you can only try once.
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>>168746560
> nWoD

Get the fuck outta here
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>Through out the week play one hour of Shantae, Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus, Killing Floor each, here and there, on and off

>Get to the week end
>Play 9 hours of Total Warhammer none stop

Why is this game so FUCKING good? Had it since launch and I keep coming back to it despite having highly rated and acclaimed games in my back log. Shit you guys, my back log isn't getting done and yet I keep coming back to Total Warhammer despite knowing that I shouldn't because those other games need to get played too.

Started a Chaos campaign today on very hard, any tips or suggested mods? First time as chaos btw, have beaten up to long campaign with dawi, empire, Vcunts.
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>>168747132
Steel Faith makes the Chaos campaign more reliant on looting, pillaging and raping others to make money.
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WHERE IS THE FUCKING LORE OF METAL BUFF CA YOU FUCKING HACKS ???

Thanks God i gave this piece of shit negative review
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>>168736480

>sperging THIS hard

are all hisfags like this?
>>
How do you have fun as Greenskins lads
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>>168747417
You play as GOBBOS
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>>168747481
thanks lad
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>>168747417
Use only Goblin warlords and give poison to EVERYONE

Alternatively savage orcs
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Will we get patch notes before the patch hits?
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>>168747417

Greenskins are OP as fuck, I have no idea how people have trouble with them.

1.) Destroy Dwarves early on. Shit on your income for a little while, it's necessary.
2.) Consolidate your power in the Badlands when the main threat has been crushed.
3.) Launch an offensive so fucking huge it's unreal, easily have 10+ stacks going with Waagh's and just ordering them to raze the living shit out of humanity.
4.) Mop up the rest.

Leave Border Princes alone as a buffer, since Empire is usually unfriendly with them. Also demand gifts often, bleed potential enemies dry.
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>>168737215
>>168736875
>>168736602
>>168747386
>Rushing to defend your shitty master like an African dictatorship

Remember when we actively criticize ROme 2 and Attila for their shiity DLC poliy ?

These Fantasydrones have no mind of their own, as long as they get their shiny models they will be A-ok, no wonder GW milk you all your worth and throw you away like a cumrag,All those money on models for GW and they made your setting fucking blown up for new shiny autism toys, congratulation you manchilds now fuck off back to your shithole >>>/tg/
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>>168747132
It's fun to conquer something else than Europe once in a while.
Even if it is only a fantasy Europe.

This and faction diversity.
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>tfw no proper engineer hero with contraptions, gyrocopter mount options, mines, turrets etc etc
Why does CA hate fun?
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>>168748104
Weak bait
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>>168735071
HAH! Good one.
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>>168734701
How many elf vamps exist in Warhammer lore?
Wouldnt elf vampire wizard basically go double down on his magical capabilities?
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>>168710141
Rolll
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>>168748787
Elves (even the dark onws) are too pure to be affected by the blood kiss. They just die when a vampire feeds on them.
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>>168748979
>Chaos

God help me
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>>168749176
Source?
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>>168749176
Aight, sounds logical enough.
>>168749213
Which one?
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>>168748787
Fay Enchantress is the only real potential example, I think, but I've never read anything like >>168749176 is saying. Dark elves can be corrupted by Chaos so I don't see why there couldn't be vampire elves. It's not like we don't have dwarf wights already.
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>>168749282
I read it in a black library book. Can't remember which one because it was kind of shit.
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>>168749464
Slaanesh pls.

Unsure why anyone would go for the others, pleasure is obviously what everyone wants.

Though Khorne might be good at TW.

Anyone got tips for surviving a Chaos campaign?

Last time I struggled with the norse dwarves plus marauder horsemen still give me nightmares.
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>>168749539
Maybe she got enchanted by his small yet striking stature. His charisma must be pretty uplifting.

On the other hand his whole plan reached an all time high when he sieged Aldorf and he ended up down on his luck ever since.
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>>168749910
I can.

Tzeentch reporting in, give me the ANSWERS
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>>168737398

Three, m'lord.
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>>168749910
>not Tzeench
You perverted simpleton
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>>168750134
Tzeentch, how is that even a question?
>muh rotball
>knowledge of the univers
>muh rage
>muh charisma
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>>168747359
>a lore of magic is underpowered so I gave the game as a whole a negative review
I know this is bait but man this triggers me
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>>168749910
Sack first turn then raze second.
Norscans are huge cash cows, but you risk letting the big factions unify if you stay up there too long.
Go for the Warrior building first
Try to make sure one Norscan power dominates the rest and is your friend, they help a lot further south
Don't be afraid to re-recruit one-turn units if they're too damaged
Your first army will eventually have all the horde buildings, but you should give different armies different buildings up to mid game and let them recruit units for each other
Auto resolve against the Maruader Horsememers, Chaos Warriors and up easily out-class them
Every unit except regular Maruaders is perfectly usable all the way through the campaign
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>>168715585
there already are dragon units?
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>>168749539
Vampirism is for plebian races. True patricians slaughter thousands in Khainite rituals and bath in their blood to restore eternal youth, life and beauty.

The difference is the Elf retains his identity and high culture. The Vampire degrades himself into a monster cavorting with other lesser monsters: skeltons, zombies, ghouls etc.
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Guys, speaking about Make Love no War, did they give out a total war warhammer DLC? I signed just today
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>>168751435
Not yet I don't think. We're winning so hopefully we'll get Isabella.

How many challenges are there?
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>>168751178
>have to drink blood to stay alive
>monster
>have to bathe in blood to stay young
>not a monster

Fucking druchii man.
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>>168710141
gonna roll some shit man
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>>168710141
ROLLER ROLLA DA
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>>168751178
t. deluded Khorne worshipper

Elf 'high culture'= repeated Sundering and beating eaten by lizards
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>>168729757
I sell my ass on the street corner for cheap
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>>168752757
No DLC, rerolling
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>>168752821
>Alans
fucking celtic horsefuckers fine

Where did the Alans historically settle?
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>>168752695
>Vlad and Abhorash

One would have you as his underling, and the other would have nothing more for you than contempt.
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>>168750134
Reminder that Settra does not serve. He rules.
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What do the "tiers" on units in Attila mean?
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>>168753063
They're the closest things Vampires have to role models.
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>>168752695
>>168751661
Reminder that true Elven culture follows the traditions established by the first Phoenix King Aenarion at Anlec. Only hard Elves in the mold of Khaine can defeat Chaos and save the world for Elven lebensraum.

Aenarion's gestalt was not to hide on magic islands or in enchanted forests, cowering away from the world. Aenarion brought the fight to Chaos, he fought hard and played hard, and built a toughened race and court to defeat Chaos, the best traditions of which are preserved by his son and rightful heir.

Unicorn molesting fairy Elves have no place in Elven world to come late 2017.
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>fucking about with large siege custom battles
>wipe away several thousand troops
>hmmm this seems too easy
>arrogantly march out to mop up
>see a few units in the trees remaining
>they charge
>FUG
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>>168755138
I'd bet my money on the Lizardmen any day of the week.
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>>168721009

Schwartzhafen soon too.
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>>168755741
>first line completely overrun
>second pulls back across the river and is being overrun
>third retreats inside for a last stand
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>>168755930

>no breaks on folded nippon steel rape train
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Whats a dwarf composition thats good in warhammer?
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>>168756112

>one brave gook officer and his men manage to hold off wave after wave of enemies

I actually had fun in a custom battle for the first time in ten years.
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Do mounts do anything for the campaign map, does it make your agents be able to traverse the map faster?

Also, what do the criss-crosses on an auto-resolve meter mean?
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G O B L I N S
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>>168757208


Aaaaaaah....


GOBLINS
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If I confederate Toddbringer is he considered a legendary lord? Does he have his custom battle abilities? He is sitting in middenheim and I'm debating about whether to just crush him, or wait in order to get him to join me, who knows how long that will take though. I'm already at war with him, so maybe I can destroy his army without killing todd, then make confederation a part of the piece deal?
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Foot Squires vs. Empire Greatswords

Greatswords, which have better stats, are pretty garbage. Foot Squires just seem like they'll be expensive units that will get placed into a trash can pretty quickly in any kind of sustained combat.

Although I'm gonna call it right now, Bret technology in campaign will make them either as strong as GS or stronger.
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Imagine being Isabella Von Carstein in Sylvania and having to be all like "damn, Vlad Von Carstein, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your undead body and horrific rotten monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both my living version and the real undead me." when all she really wants to do is suck another 16 year old's blood in her dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Isabella and not only sit in that throne while Vlad von carstein flaunts his disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing his necrosis and leathery skin, and just sit there, war after war, hour after hour, while he perfected that necromancy. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone on Sylvania tells him he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, VLAD VON CARSTEIN LOOKS LIKE THAT?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his ghoulish fucking zombie face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of WISSENLAND STUDS and PRINCES and later alleged 'disappeared' virgins for your ENTIRE LIFE coming straight out of the boonies in Sylvania. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the necrosis that's breaking out on his dimpled stomach as he sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get married to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" beauty, the beauty he worked so hard for with vampirism in the previous eras. And then the count of Sylvania,Otto calls for another proposal, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the sylvanian security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Isabella Von Carstein. You're not going to lose your future political career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>168752962
sarmatia and narbonesis
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>>168757916
>greatswords
>garbage
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>take swordsmen
>take flagellants
>combine them
>get grail pilgrims

Emplets when will they learn?
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>>168758589
Are Grail Pilgrims unbreakable?
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>>168758589
massive difference between being unbreakable and having 80 leadership m8
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>>168758354

>wasting money, army slots and 2 fucking turns for
>shock infantry that dont shock
>damage dealers that dont do very much damage
>high """"armored""""" infantry that can't sustain against shit
>that will lose 2/3rds of their health and models to spear units half their cost

WOW SO GOOD
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>>168757916
Hah faggot. Greatswords are the most cost efficient elite infantry in the game.
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>>168758772
>>168758849

I was mostly thinking Frenzy, but unbreakable is worth shit if Flagallents can't kill anything. Grail Pilgrims look like they could actually do some good damage. Combine them with a Grail Relic and they're basically unbreakable. Nearly 100 LD.

So you get a cheap, shielded, armored, low tier tar pit that will likely chunk a good number of models and HP from an enemy line.
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>>168759070
>greatswords are the same thing as chosen
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The load times in Warhammer are intolerable.
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>>168757916
Greatswords are one of the most cost effective infantry units in the game.. What are you smoking?
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>>168759239
the point of unbreakable is so you use one lone unit to tie up an opponent anywhere on the map for the entire battle. it would be a waste of money to use flaggelents in the middle of the main brawl with your general and what not for example.

do we know how much the bret units cost?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLFztSaD908
>all these people in the comments claiming they'll pirate the game and show CA they deserve better
>game currently has no crack
well look what good that did
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>>168759476
>not owning an SSD
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>>168759881

I'm going to have to buy one, yes.
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>>168756298
In campaign i'm assuming.

Depends what you're up against and when in campaign. but generally longbeards with great weapons are good as your mid range infantry with Ironbreakers and dwarfwarriors also being good.

a group or two of slayers are good since they're fast. but you keep them in your back lines to fight cavalry or use them to target monsters.

and then your choice of artillery and quarrelers with maybe a couple of thunderers.

I always like dwarf cannons.
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>>168759476
Post specs, specifically CPU.
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>>168757916
As it should be, it'd be boring if they added in greatswords for bretonnia. Also good mod stuff on those units. bret infantry was never going to be good.
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What's the WHFB equivalent of Gun Nuns?
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>>168760613
You mean female units? there's wardancers/witch elves
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>>168759239
Unbreakable is god damn great though.

>flagellent unit holds units in place while your position your guns. guns start shooting in when flagellants are low in number. they don't break, just die. enemy has to kill them all mean while you're still firing in.

pilgrims don't seem to be unbreakable just frenzied, but a lot tougher.

Though I would have given them the blessing instead of frenzy I'll take the extra killing power.

And i think their stubborness is counted in their high leadership.
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>>168759878
Really bizarre seeing so many people shamelessly boasting about how they are going to steal something on company's web site. No surprise CA saw it necessary to protect their game with denuvo after that. Those faggots really shot themselves in the foot.
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>>168760028
its amazing. though my mount for SSD's on my computer made it harder to install than it should have been.

I've only installed warhammer on it. but as soon as I find my install disk i'm going to reformat. Load times are nothing now.
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>>168760613
Sisters of Sigmar, but they are shit.
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>can trespass against military allies
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>>168760489

I consistently get above 50 fps, so I'm pretty sure that the HDD is the problem.
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>5/5 Tier
Medieval 2
Shogun 2
>4/5 Tier
Rome
Warhammer
Napoleon
Shogun
>3/5 Tier
Rome 2
Attila
Empire
Medieval
>2/5 Tier
>1/5 Tier
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>>168761349
Medieval 2 deserves 4/5 now that CA is making much more polished games. It's a clunky mess compared to newer titles
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>>168761349
Come on nigga, Empire and Attila are way better than Rome 2.
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>>168761819

Well the UI certainly is disgusting
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Anyone have an upload of the stream from earlier? I had to work.
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Gentlemen I have a question:

Why is this game so utterly shit compared with Mount & Blade?

I mean, you can't even play as the general of your army.
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>>168759221
>>168759242
>>168759619

so this...is the power...of cost effectiveness
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>>168762173
are you retarded?
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>>168762112
last warning bud
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>>168762112
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>>168762112
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>>168762112
Stop holding feasts.
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>>168762112
>haha mount & blade posting in the /twg/
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>>168759239
>Unbreakable flagellants hold the wall
>When enemies try to take the wall they're just stuck there for days trying to kill them all
>Crossbows or handgunners get free shots on them
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>>168762173
Not even the best units can survive a bad player.
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>>168761260
load times? yeah its the SSD,
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>>168709958
>Bretonnia comes out the same day as Mardi Gras
Was this intentional?
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>>168762112
you literally almost can

>press insert while selecting your lord
>you can now manually control them by pressing space bar
>and you can move them around and charge things.

Proper combat mod when?
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Gentlemen I have a question:

Why is this game so utterly shit compared with CK2?

I mean, you can't even impregnate your wife.
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>>168762246
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>>168763080
Do SSDs improve turn times? Or is that entirely a CPU thing?
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>>168763682
haven't played a campaign since I got it. only really multiplayer.
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>>168738461
I use a mod which disables them. Real nice.
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>>168763454
>unit that had to be nerfed literally every patch since release and is still considered great is shit because you are paraplegic
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>>168759476
>>168763682
Getting a SSD will improve your load times drastically, regardless of your CPU. I put Warhammer on an SSD, and my load times went from literal minutes to just 10 seconds or so.

If you have the money, get Samsung. They are very reliable.
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>>168762112

What's the most units one army can feasibly field in that game? Like 100 before the game shits out on you?

It's just small warbands vs. small warbands. Not epic in the slightest my man.
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https://youtu.be/xyhEN2AKtPI

Is there a more hype battle song than this?

Shogun 2 OST is awesome.
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>>168763454
Next you'll say Demigryphs were weak on launch.
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>>168764165
I asked about turn times. I know they improve load times but I'm also asking if they help turn time as well
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>>168763682
Expensive as shit compared to hdd but loads very fast. Get both SSD and regular Hard Drive for best of both worlds.
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>>168710918
for what purpose
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>ywn have a knightfu
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>>168764226

Imagine how fucking hype a China Warring States or Three Kingdoms game would be.

I can't wait. *wink*
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>>168764292
Oh shit, it gets late and my ability to read dwindles.
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>>168710141
Rolling
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Anybody got some tips for landed legendary campaigns? I just finished my first campaign as Chaos on legendary, which was honestly pretty easy because I didn't have to worry about settlements and all I had to do was prowl around with a single death stack and pick and choose my battles while fucking shit up in advance with my agents. I'm thinking of doing a Wood Elf legendary campaign next, so any general or Wood Elf specific legendary tips would be cool.

Also is there any way to improve framerate outside of turning porthead to 2d, turning down shadows and putting unlimited video memory on? My GPU is more than capable of handling the game but I feel my CPU is bottle-necking performance to an extent. My framerate is good but I want it to be even better.
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>>168765603
>Indian shield wall.jpeg
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>>168765603
Considering the AI immediately steamrolls over half the map, you should be fine going in blind.
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>>168765603
Same way you improve frame rate for any other program: turn down settings and turn off stuff running in the background.

Typical advice for higher difficulties is to build walls and abuse auto resolve, both of which WE happen to be the worst race in the game at.

Fortunately, WE are powerful enough that you can manage anyway.

Ranged units are very powerful in legendary because armor is one of the few stats that the ai doesnt get massively buffed. Factions with artillery should use it, and WE should take full advantage of their archers and ranged heros/lords.

Wildwood Rangers are currently broken because CA accidentally made their AP damage much higher than intended, so use them while you can.

Your biggest fear in legendary is getting dogpiled by the ai. Play conservatively and you should be fine.
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>>168766631
Welf AI does that becaues it doesn't have to worry about Amber though, m8e.

They also get to Confederate without having to get the OoA to level 3, so you'll see the Welves banding together really quickly.
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>>168763682

Anon with the HDD here.

Turn times are fine on my end. It probably is the CPU in your case.
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>>168741167
I was taught Weni, Widi, Wiki
Modernized it comes off more 'italian' than anything
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How do I conquer the VC?
the fucking unit decay kills my army.
Do I ignore them and come back, Also can chaos have 2 armies next to each other without suffering attrition?
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>>168767317
Same here. Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD runs at a majorly acceptable speed except when I'm first loading into Grand Campaign (because there's a huge amount of stuff to load).
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>>168768120
I feel like people are missing the difference between the load times it takes when loading into a battle and the time it takes to end a turn and for every AI to make their move.
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>>168768061
As Orcs and Chaos, use the underway to avoid attrition. As everybody else, either blitz and siege them or cleanse their corruption or just edge via encampments and raiding.
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>>168769053
chaos can move underground?
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>>168769812
Beastmen, not Chaos
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>they included a bullshit 'foot squires' unit for Bretagne so that every faction has every unit type

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THIS IS BULLSHIIIIIIIIT
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>>168770327
Foot Knights were an old Bretonnia unit.
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>>168769812
Orcs and Dawi move underground, Beastmen and Welves get the same thing but it's some faggot "nature path" shit.

It's mechanically the same thing, though.
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>>168770431
at this point I'm waiting for the inevitable VC and Chaos archer unit. I mean, if they gave Bretonnia goddamn greatsword infantry, then why not create Marauder Archers and Skeletal Archers? After all, every faction has to be exactly the same with some stats shuffled up, amirite?
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>>168770695
I don't know what you're on, but they're just adding units based on the tabletop rosters. Maybe one or two OC units because the Tableotop game is no longer supported and being updated
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Pls do not believe that factions other than Bretonnia are getting formations. Lance formation is supposed to be an advantage Bret knights have over other factions' cavalry. It's only lore-appropriate.
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>>168770695
again, they are a real existing unit
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>>168770819
Dwarfen Knights when? Gotta appease that part of the playerbase which complains about Dorfs being boring due to their low maneuverability! They can even ride mechanical steeds like that missing WoC unit and be all steampunk 4 the nerdz!
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>>168771030
>muh slippery slope
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>>168771104
stop replying to him
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>>168770695
>A knight could never possibly get off of, or other wise lose his horse and have to fight on foot.

Like I'm sorry but this honestly isn't that bad. Now if it was a Knight unit with bows I could understand but come on man.
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also lol @ the CA employee who speaks English like the Swedish Chef and had spaghetti pouring out of his pockets throughout
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>>168771185
>a Dwarf could never mount a pony for that extra charge damage
>a Norscan could never take up spreading father Nurgle's blessings with a bow
>a vampire couldn't stick a bow in his skeletal thrall's hand - or even better, a zombie's!
>an orc couldn't possibly don both armour and a crossbow
>dwarfs would never take up pikes
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>>168771441
norscan archers and armored orc crossbowmen exist
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>>168771652
Ruglands Ladz would have to be a proper RoR though.
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is it worth trying to take over all the provinces as the empire or trying to defensive ally non aggression pact them
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>>168764412
I got "SayatheFox" if you were looking for sauce m80.
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>>168771441
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>>168771995
Wait til Chaos fucks off, Confederate spam, then annihilate anyone who still holds lands you need.
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>>168771903
That's what I would have thought, but Bugmans Ranger's are just a unit another regular unit so who knows anymore. We're never going to get proper regiments of renown because the current system is not designed to support characters that are also part of a unit. I was hoping something could be kludged together with using legendary heroes as the captains of ROR units, but they don't seem to really be a thing so I'm not sure exactly what is possible.
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>>168772237
I think Bugman has enough rangers that they could be an elite unit, and they are kind of hard to get in the campaign. But stuff like Ruglands Armored Orcs and Ricos Republican Guard are a bit more unique.
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Any news about Bretonnia's unique gameplay mechanics in the Campaign?

Do they get Grail Paths?

Grailiness you have to increase until you spawn an additional army?
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>>168772578
>16
fellow toaster gamer
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>>168772586
They get a chivalry meter that works similarly to dorf grudges
Their tech tree gives improvements to either economy or knights, and upgrading one side puts a penalty on the other
The Green Knight is a hero that only pops up for a few turns at a time
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>>168772586
Green Knight as a random hero who pops up to help and some kind of chivalry meter that keeps you from fighting other Bret factions.
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>>168772753
>>168772756

Bullshit, those are actually sort of unique mechanics.

They'd never do that
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>>168772640
there is something wrong with that counter I swear to God. D3D gear is shit.
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>>168763682
SSD it the biggest quality of life upgrade you can get for your computer. Put your OS on it and a few select games.
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>>168772847
TWW is great at exceeding expectations

WE have great campaign mechanics that are overshadowed by the AI's ignoring them.
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>>168756308
army comp?
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>>168759881
I know they're great, I sent my old one to my brother
but they're way too fucking expensive, like what fucking gives
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HDD anon here. Goddammit, I really want to enjoy the game, but fuck those loading screens. I could play Shogun 2, but I'm basically burned out on it.

>tfw it's going to be a few more days until I can buy an SSD
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So wait, where's the source on Vlad and Isabella getting Schwarzhafen?
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>>168774516
There isn't any. We made it up.
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>>168774516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lja4TmwwAmQ
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>tfw historical tw is dead
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Steel Faith Overhaul Mod any good brehs?
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>>168774764
Thanks homie.
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>>168750134
>>168750823

Yeah, that list is unbalanced as fuck. One gives you a tolerance for pain (who gives a shit), whereas another GIVES YOU TOTAL SUPREME KNOWLEDGE.

Seriously, what the fuck. Someone should make a new one.
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What are some good damage reduction mods for Attila? (given that units of 160 can wipe themselves out in a few seconds of hand to hand)
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I just recruited him last turn...
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>>168760613

Sisters of Sigmar.

They're actually featured in the Mordheim PC game. Really tough fuckers too.
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>>168774964
good overall, but it makes legendary lords extremely powerful, to the point where you are going to struggle against the ai if you dont have yours up to snuff. grimgor in particular becomes ridiculous and will shred half a dozen units on his own if you don't have a plan to stop him.

>>168775682
fucking corehim devs
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>>168774964
I think it's great.
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>>168772847

They've been suggested before, but it's fun to see they didn't add Grail Path or something equally stupid.

The chivalry meters gives bonuses for being... chivalrious, that means not attacking your neighbours and being a dick. Apparently Brets have good relations with eachother, and their game will focus more on confederating rather than civil war, which would give you penalties.

Hopefully the GK can be triggered, because it would be a pain in the ass if he just straight up appears after you've signed a peace treaty.
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>>168761349
>Napoleon
>4/5
It was a boring expansion pack
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>>168775798
>fucking corehim devs

What.

The devs have been giving the a ton of post release support. One of the last updates also finally, FUCKING FINALLY gave a quick-turn option which boosts the AIs animation by 50% and the player's by 15%.
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>>168776067
not them. these idiots: http://www.indadvendt.dk/mordheim/sistersfaq.htm
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>>168775608

I'm gonna regret asking this but...

How do, uh, how do Orks reproduce?
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>>168776184

>that website

What the fuck.

Why do faggots have to ruin Bolter Bitches in either setting all the time.
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>>168776281

mushroom sex
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>>168710141
rolen
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>>168776281

In 40k they reproduce via spores. Each time a ork is killed it releases spores that then turns into mushrooms which will grow into one of the ork subspecies. They're effectively fungus.

In Fantasy they used to have women and reproduced the good ol' fashioned way, which can be seen in Bloowbowl where there are female orc cheerleaders. The lore hasn't actually been changed since then, but since females have entirely disappeared from the model range and recent books it's been presumed they reproduce the same way their 40k counterpart does. In fact, everyone who plays Fantasy will say they do it via spores, but there is no real source for it. It's just something everyone have accepted and GW hasn't bothered making it canon.
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My blood knights refuses to drop lances when i send them after routing units. Is this intentional? Thought maybe it was one of my mods
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>>168747132
Wording this. I got it from the humble bundle 2 weeks ago and have been playing nothing else since. It's easily the most fun I've had playing a sp game in years
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>>168776854
>In fact, everyone who plays Fantasy will say they do it via spores, but there is no real source for it.

Except for core rulebook and every fantasy book that has orcs.
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/twg/ I'm playing Attila for the first time as the Visigoths and this food thing is really throwing me off. I'm trying to move West but can't cut through Northern Italy because of the five armies there so I'm heading North and around. The problem is that whichever province I move into seems to provide me with different amounts of food and I sometimes find myself at a deficit of 40 after all movement points are expended.
Is there a way to see how much food my migrating stacks will have in a province without spending a turn moving there and then reloading if it is shit?
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>>168710141

Lets do it
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>>168777673
not true
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>>168710141

Anything but dwarfs!
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>>168778043
>Anything but dwarfs!

ANYTHING?
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>>168778043

>Kemmler

I made my bed of shit, now I lay in it.
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>>168777983
Yes it is.
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Any more streams or info this weekend lads?
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Is it a common things for achievements to be bugged? I got the one for occupying Altdorf as VC but not Brettonia, same with recruiting a terrorgheist but not a black coach. I know they're completely pointless but it still triggers my autism and makes me not want to go for the VH/legendary ones
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>>168747881
add bretonnia to it , so like that you done with all the humans
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>>168778373
>makes me not want to go for the VH/legendary ones
Then don't
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That's neat. in the quest battle for bretonnia, Any bretonnian cavalry unit card that has an overall white scheme has a bonus against large, while cavalry that have a blue scheme on their unit card is good at anti infantry. I'm glad they did that.

so basically Knights of the realm, grail knights and pegasus knights are anti-large while knights errant and questing knights are anti infantry.

though with armor piercing questing knights should still be able to do some damage to other armored cavalry.

can't wait. bretonnia trailer when?
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>ogres ride large beasts resembling mammoths and sabre-tooth tigers

they cant come soon enough

>fight ogres vs lizardmen
>literral cavemen jurassic war
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>>168779425
wodda ya tink yer doin' gobbo ?? da big boss need dem siege weapons ready ter siege da uumies , so go back ter wurk before i feed ya ter da boars !
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>>168779234

>tfw still no Ogre mercenaries
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>>168710141

Trying out Steel Faith.
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How do I git gud as Chaos?

I tried uniting the tribes and I'm now about 50 turns in and its an absolute shitfuck.

Meanwhile I'm looking at the lands of the Empire which I need to hurry up and pillage but I ignored them for so long that they are all united and have shit loads of armies.

And here I am chasing smelly norscan barbar stacks around this shit cunt zone Norsca
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>>168780004

>Unite the tribes.

WoC mistake number one. Awaken tribes to unlock Sigvald, otherwise only use them as a jumping off point to attack Kislev / Kraka Drak.

The sooner you get the ball rolling out of Norsca the better. The tribes will come down and fuck with your enemies if you let them do their own thing. The more you try to organize them the less likely they are to ever get organized.
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>>168780004
only awaken one tribe. all others put to the sword.

try to get the improved growth and upkeep reduction buildings and skills. put campaing skills in either raid sack or raze and then do that action at all times. also git gud at battles. you shouldn't be worried about making money ever. just being able to sack enough to keep up. I never worried about money or combat as chaos. though i did have some close battles.
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>>168779860
>still no Zoat mercenary
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>Playing Empire.
>Wood Elves are on a warpath.
>Ignore them and focus on dealing with the Vampire Counts.
>Have to reject a bunch of requests from my allies to go to war with Wood Elves so I can focus on wiping out the Undead.
>Elves decide to invade Reikland.
>Send Karl Franz in to smack their shit.
>Accept their peace treaty because Chaos is on the way and I need to go save the Empire.
>Send the Emperor and a few other armies north to meet the Hordes of Chaos.
>Elves wipe out Bretonnia and are now raiding the Empire.

You fucking pointy eared, tree sniffing cunts!

I'm trying to stop the End Times here and you fuckers aren't helping! I should grind up your snags for sausage meat for this shit!

Should I load an older save and go to war with the Wood Elves?
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>>168780403

Nah, fight Chaos then take care of the WElfs.

For being a semi-passive faction they are even more destructive than Chaos.
>>
I really want to fuck deathclaw.
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So what sort of DLC for one of the historic titles do you believe/hope CA will put out?
>>
>>168743979
This won't happen, but it would be so cool if they could cohabitate in an enemy settlement like they do in the lore. An anon mentioned reverse sieges a long time ago, that would be cool too
>>
>>168781443

Warriors of Chaos for Shogun 2.
>>
>>168755138
>the best traditions of which are preserved by his son and rightful heir.
His son the Chaos worshipper? No-one cares about your stupid End Times retcon.
>>
>>168781443
RoR could work out
>>
>>168781578

Slaanesh was always Morathi's thing, not Malekith's.
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>>168781578

>Chaos Worshipper
>Builds a continent spanning wall to keep Chaos out.
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>>168781702
I'm not sure "the only thing Chaotic about me is my mother who I have sex with and also the fact I constantly fight alongside them and also my armour, shield and the dragon I ride" is one the Witch Hunters would accept Anon.
>>
>>168780004

Play Archaon.
First move move 75% forward, encamp and build your main building. Don't recruit.
Second move attack and awaken tribe, with your remaining movement march towards the human minor settlement. Make sure to get campaign movement and horde growth as your first levels
Third turn attack the human minor settlement, sack it, encamp if you can, build two horse archers, build your main building again
Fourth turn sack the human settlement.

From there you want to go and raze then sack the other norse settlement, remove your marauder building, build the chaos warrior building, create a 20 stack, filling your remaining slots with chaos warriors and replacing your remaining marauders with chaos warriors. Then you want to go past the dwarf minor settlement and sit between it and their capital, the AI will prioritize the capital and move their forces to it so you can sack and raze the minor, after that ignore their capital capital, go raze and sack their other minor, get a peace treaty with the norse tribe you're at war with (they'll like you more for the dwarf killing you did) and then naturally continue on to wreaking havok in the nearby human settlements from there.

That's how I started the Legendary Chaos run I finished the long campaign of.
>>
>>168781945

How old is this? Slaanesh worship has been taboo in Dark Elf culture for at least the last decade.
>>
>>168780004
>>168780235
>implying

Fuck up norsca, awakening/razing until there is one allied tribe left. During this time you will have probably maxed out a doomstack for your starting lord, which means you will have also unlocked the other 2 lords. From there recruit from your doomstack and transfer to new stacks and enjoy the tedious task of razing every settlement in the old world, which will be assisted by the hordes of chariot/horseman armies supplied by your norscan ally. Typically they can fuck up the northern part of the empire /spread corruption, making your job easier
>>
High Elves, Dark Elves and Skaven when? The wait is killing me.
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>>168782316
same time we get lizardmen
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>>168782316
>skaven

stop inventing new races , this aint radius
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>>168782265

The thing about getting norsca under one banner is that it will happen whether you get involved or not.
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>>168782418
This, someone-somebody just saw grey beastmen.
Its impossible for great ratlike race to live in sewers
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>>168782738
im glad to find a sensible fellow imperial Citizen

these guards-guards need to stop drinking on the job-job
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>>168782418
>>168782738
>>168782926
I smell Skaven...
>>
>142( ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO) days since september 30th 2016
>AE STILL NOT RELEASED
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>>168781585
Rise of Russia?
>>
H or VH for Steel Faith?
VH memes up the diplomacy and makes the game stop making sense on the campaign map kind of but H is easy.
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>>168782926
However, its really heartbreaking to see those pesky-nasty guards to do night patrol in sewers.
I always drop some tasty-yummy meals for them near entrance, so when they finish they can pick it up
>>
>>168783082
H diplomacy, VH combat.
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>>168783046
Don't worry anon, september 2017 will be the month.
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>>168783186
cant do that, only see one slider, checked all options
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>>168783214
You can change the battle difficulty in-game so long as you're not in a battle.
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>>168783214

After you start the game go under campaign settings and there will be a slider for battle difficulty.
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>>168783187
That's pretty optimistic bud.
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>>168782418
>>168782738
>>168782926
>>168783141

>r-ratmen don't exist stupid goything!

SUMMON
U
M
M
O
N
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>>168783247
>>168783261
holy heck lads thank you
>>
>>168783187
I just can't believe they still haven't gotten it done after all this time after the first time they thought it would be done. Fucking its not even as difficult as the medieval mod they got all the stuff from rome 2 to work with yet they still fuck it up.
>>
>>168783294
Hi everyone, Boristhony Todbringer here, the Empires busiest Elector Count, today with a review of dead Skaven carcasses, the most work of renowned artist Victor Saltzpyre.
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>>168782738
>>168782418
>>168783141
Honest lore question here: How do the Skaven keep themselves secret from the rest of the world when they're actively fighting wars against the dwarfs and are featured prominently in Bretonnia's history?
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>>168783570

its a big stinkin meme
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>>168783570
they keep themselves secret to the empire and the empire administration are the only one knowing about them and keep it secret for a lot of reasons :
>we already have enough shit to deal with , beastmens , norses , chaos and greenskins
>telling the population that million of man sized rats run around the cities sewers would cause mass panics
>skavens mostly fight far from the empire and the worst they do is kidnapp some peoples

also skavens assassins kill any imperials that know too much on them
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>>168710141

Roll or die
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>>168783705

The Skaven also maintain an enchantment on the planet that makes humans distrustful of anything they hear regarding Skaven.
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>>168783886
haha what
>>
>>168783705
oh and also i forgot

if the skaven assassin dont kill you , its the witch hunter who gonna do it if you know too much about skavens
>>
Real question here; why are we only allowed to retreat twice before being 100% destroyed?

Shouldn't we be able to retreat as many times as needed, except we'd lose more and more men to attrition?

there's no real way to "run away" from a battle in TW if you need to
>>
New thread:
>>168784453
>>168784453
>>168784453
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>>168784172

It's punishment for misjudging the situation.
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>>168783570
The Empire does their best to ensure that the general public don't know that there are giant rat cities underneath their settlements, since it wouldn't do much good for public order.
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