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13 days 11 hours

>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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What is the point of cast on death?
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i warned you

you must suffer the consequences
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So armor is a meme on it's own, but how's this? Has space for an actual resist too.
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>>168682498
garbage

just get a brass dome if you're going armour
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Reasons to play SSFHC in 2.6:

>no shitters allowed
you know first to level X or first to shaper's realm etc didn't pay for boss kills or relied on a supportcuck but did it 100% solo

>smaller "community"
first to reach level X, and global death messages will be glorious

>no "player interaction"
self explanatory
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What is the point to pay so much extra for lvl 21 skill gems? You don't even get that much bonus from them?
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>>168682461
To get revenge on whatever killed you
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>>168682498
It only have 1 good stat out of 5
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kimi dake wo
kimi dake wo
suki de itayo
kimi dake to
kimi dake to
utau uta da yo
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>>168682753
It's literally 10% more damage for spells or flat damage supports
You retarded?
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I need your wisdom /poeg/, I'm a 25 lvl ranger on normal HC and so far so good, fun and comfy game. My question is, should I use those orbs on my gear or keep them for the endgame?
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>>168682753
kek
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>>168682924
Keep em and use them to buy gear on poe.trade. You should buy some leveling uniques already.
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>>168682924
if you're playing self-found: use everything but chaos, jews and fuses as long as you know it will upgrade your gear, do every master mission you come across and get their crafting bench

If you're trading, buy gear with chaos

alts are always useful, save them and use them to roll flasks every time you upgrade a tier

low tier essences should be used on white bases for potential upgrades, zero reason to hoard them
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>>168682947
>>168682920
>>168682947
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Earthquake

For example you get 1% damage increase for earthquake.
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>>168682498
>no life
It's garbage
I IDed a 2.5k armor trires astral plate and it still didn't sell for much because it didn't have life
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>>168682924
Use:
armor scraps
blacksmith stones
wisdom & portals
transmutes/ alterations/ augmentations

dont use chromatics, chaos, baubles, fuses, scours, (((jews))) or chances
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>>168683097
Can you read? Spells and damage supports, some auras too, no one cares about getting a L21 attack gem
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>>168682753
depends on the gem

purity of fire 21 is a must so that you can put it in a +2 and get an extra 1% max res as an example
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KGaJ7eNsPM

I rather eat this than play this shitty game.
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>>168683097
It's mostly spells
BV is 8% more
SRS is 10% more
you get the idea
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>meat eating in 2017
enjoy your cholesterol and cancer
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>>168683026
>>168683064
>>168683132
thanks lads
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>>168683302
buy Death's Harp from poe.trade
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don't buy any gear until you've completed the game at least once solo, and self-found

buying gear is a crutch for shitters, start doing that and you'll never learn the basics of the game
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>>168683302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL84CETIFsM

Watch this and buy some cheap leveling uniques.
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>>168683481
flip off, loser
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Uber hasn't streamed for a while. Does he hate me? Is that why he doesn't stream?
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>>168683667
Why Datmodz doesn't stream anymore?
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>>168683667
>tfw you like projectpt
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>>168683667
go back
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Is Bringer of Rain fine to use in a Facebreaker build?

I want to run some Legacy Facebreaker Cyclone next league and dont want to be stuck trying to use Abyssus in HC
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play a facebreaker build and find out for your'reself
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>>168684169
Abyssus isn't honestly even that good, it's 100% a shitcore tooltip boosting item, completely unnecessary in hardcore

You already have more than enough damage from a steel ring + Voidheart or even better the Brutus ring (16-54 flat phys for a perf roll, frenzy on stun)
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>>168684565
>it's 100% a shitcore tooltip boosting item
I mean it sure is good for tooltip, but it's not like it's useless for actual killing.
It's great for shaper removal on a BF scourge build.
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>>168684565
>200+ multi
>tons of flat phys
yea ok
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>>168684728
can you read? it's unnecessary damage
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>>168684779
shut up white boi
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>>168684779
No amount of damage is unnecessary for stuff like shaper, because the longer you let the fight drag on the higher the risk of fucking something up.
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>>168685019
That is poe's meta in a nutshell
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honestly the witch is a qt and everything looks good on it. Been playing gayass templars and rangers recently. Witch is cute af
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>>168685019
you're nitpicking, there's this one boss fight where you can swap gear and not care too much about the drawback, sure go ahead but its a bad/unnecessary item otherwise for hc

it's like, you don't even need more than 135 all res if you're going to run unique maps because the extra 34 all res needed to cap for ele weakness is wasted then so swap gear if you have, sure, but having only 135 all res all the time is a pretty idiotic baseline to aim for
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3.0 will be a huge thing for a week and then die down just like every single "content expansion" in poe because the core game needs an overhaul it now has 0% chance of getting.
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if you're going to make a grandiose claim, a good idea is to substantiate it with some logical arguments or you're just sounding a clown with an obvious bait
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why are brown girls the best
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>>168685281
This
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Why in POEG people doesn't know how to reply to messages?
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>>168685361
when your base game is broken, you can shit out 100 acts worth of content and its still not going to change anything, people will run through these 100 acts one shotting everything just like they did with the first 4 in less than a week and will still be left unsatisfied. Quality > Quantity.
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>>168685626
Some autist thinks (You)s are like reddit karma.
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They should remove op as fuck flask from this game.
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BUFF SPECTRES WHAT THE FUCK
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I go to bed and when I wake up, poeg is somehow baiting into making a meme unique?

No better time then, to repost that stuff I made way before shield charge was made viable.

Most important is the 3D art looking like wielding two giant shields

also what the hell, make it 6 sockets.
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They should remove (You) from the game
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>>168685720
4chan isnt a game
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>>168685679
again with the generic criticism that is literally worthless

tab back to your wow game, projectpoopoo
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Getting back into PoE to check out the new expansion

Gonna get a currency stash tab because that shit's on sale right now and it seems useful as fuck, I remember having 6+ pages of currencies in default hardcore league. What about the other shit like essences and divination cards, am I likely to get enough of whatever those are to make the specialized stash tab worthwhile?
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Is Starforge good alternative for marohi erqi?
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it is for me
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>>168685996
>>168686162
Who are you talking to
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>FREE (You)
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Not to you faggot
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How do I cheat in more skill points?
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>>168686465
Cheat engine, for example I have full passive tree.
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>people itt buttblasted about reddit boogeyman

r/kappa > 4chan
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>>168685920
Its a quality of life thing, makes it easier to find and organize. I'd get it if you have the money to waste.
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i find it funny how a lot of people are here for 3.0 but that's still 3-4 months away kak
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POE is game for autists, only autists can grind same content over and over again.
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t.wagecuck
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>>168685281
I agree with this unless they introduce really fun skills

The main problem will always be that everything progression wise is disjointed and the stupid amounts of RNG checks required for gear

If they removed the RNG from Fuses and jewels everything would improve 100 fold for instance
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Basic "I haven't played since 2014, give me the minion nodes and the ES nodes" scrub build

Not gonna be one of those super minmaxed meme builds. Don't want to trade for anything, just want to play the game and see what happens.

Anything I should change? I hear blocking is the thing to do these days but I don't know how to make a block build and those nodes seem very far away
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>>168687502
Make lazy pally.
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>>168687502
You probably want aura nodes too
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How do you reply to comments.
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anyone else have a gamebreaking SSF HC build planned but aren't sharing it with /poeg/?
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>>168683667
Haven't seen him online in weeks. Doubt he's had any interest in this league the last month.
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dude flameblast totems and srs and ed so fucking secret op for ssf lmao
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>>168687698
Man, those aura nodes are a lot more spread out and weaker then they used to be

Is it worth picking like life regen nodes and zealots oath or is the ES regen not worth it?
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>support cucks
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>>168685920
desu, the quality of life makes it worth it.
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I hope that ggg will change atlas so you can't just run strands and shores
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>>168685920
I view additional stash tabs as cheating so I'm still on the default 4.
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>>168685920
>essences
nope
>div
if you exchange your div cards more than once per league 1 normal tab is enough

Go for currency tab and quad stash tabs
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>>168688474
pointless

people will just move on to the next best thing
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What micro transactions have you purchased today?

You DO want to support based GGG, don't you?
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I support GGG by spreading the good word about the game

I will not buy mtx because I dont need them and I earned a bunch of them already from races and challenge leagues
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>>168688797
>You DO want to support based GGG, don't you?
No, I hope they will go bankrupt.
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>>168688880
>spreading the good word about the game
so you lie in other words
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>>168689093
lying is the deliberate omission or negation of the truth

since I genuinely believe PoE is a great game, I'm not lying
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>>168689152
you must be knew
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What do you think about this unique desing? is it completely shit or does it have some use?
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>>168689474
Would the melee damage on full life apply to zombies and skeletons? Would they get the damage if they were full life or if you were full life? Either way, would probably use for ES/armor minion build.
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>>168689474
generic and boring

a good unique shouldn't scream THIS UNIQUE WAS MADE FOR THIS BUILD ARCHETYPE PLEASE SPEC INTO THIS AND USE THIS SKILL
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I have a flask spot open on my spectremancer. Any unique flask I should grab I could benefit most from?
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>legacy league begins the day after zelda comes out

l0l
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>what's the best way to come out as a normie shit

l0l
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i was playing zelda before most of you were born
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WHAT THE FUCK

MY MEME NAMES
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>>168689580
>>168689587
I was trying to do a item that would be something else than shavs when trying to do life/es hybrid melee builds that would use full life and not go CI. Didn't think about the summoning part but i do'nt see reason why not.
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>>168689793
just change I to l
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>>168689814
it just screams ll srs desu
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who cares about nintendo in 2017
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well anyways this was my first idea and try to make an unique item
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>lost interest a couple weeks back, leveled my 3rd char up to 87 but just lost motivation to keep playing since he wasnt that fun and I already knew the build worked (plus anything after PF cyclone was gonna feel super slow)
>went and played shit like for honor beta and other stuff, went from playing 200 hours in my first month of ever playing late dec-jan to <10 hours past 2 weeks
>play again today since Im bored and always meant to come back and try to finish challenges
>very first map I get a 6 link drop, plus 2 5 links on the first 4 packs
>had never gotten a single 6 link drop before this, 5 links were rare

how tinfoil hat is it to believe that they up the droprates for you if you dont have much time played recently in a effort to make you stay? it sounds really silly but I feel like I've heard of other games doing this sort of thing for people coming back from a break, cant imagine itd be impossible for them to track

wasnt actually gonna make the post but the 2nd map I got a exalt drop. again its probably just skewed rng bias but idk man, shit feels a little strange
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If that guy was serious about buying /poeg/ unique it definitely should be on sorcerer boots base
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you mean a fluted bascinet
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>check out pewpewpew's "beginner" firestorm build since I've seen it mentioned quite a few times
>159% life (166 with a jewel) at level 87
>minion nodes and a full 4L dedicated to zombies for "tanking"
>pick both duration clusters for no reason
>recommends killing oak in normal
>recommends carcass jack
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like i've said a million times, shitcrows play the game completely wrong
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if they have fun they are playing it right
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>>168690207
I want to believe that his build is satire and nobody play like that

At least on this general
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just stop

this game isn't fun
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zpYFAzhAZY
this song is about you
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>there are still fags doing the 'hurrr no reply button' thing

Makes me feel less pathetic about myself tee bee eich
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>when you pm someone to buy item and you watch them just relist it for mroe
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i've been firmly against an AH for the past few years but at this point i think it's the only option, mostly because it's the best way to stop abuse and market manipulation
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most people derive their self esteem from what they do, not what other people do
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It's supposed to be impossible to lose MTX effects right? If you try to vendor something that has an effect or delete a character who has one in inventory it won't let you?
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Watched POE stream on twitch and now I wonder how you autists can just do same map for many hours?
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Just chill out listening to stuff
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>>168690207
It's good, liftingnerdbro etc. recommends it.
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>>168690207
>recommends killing oak in normal
Extra skillpoint better
>recommends carcass jack
20% increased Radius of Area Skills
12% increased Area Damage

Nothing to even discuss here.
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queue up music and work on perfecting your clear
once it gets boring it's time to move on
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who are you replying to`?
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>>168690925
I don't, I usually fill out most of my atlas save for a few really bad maps.

It's less efficient but more interesting, and I still make profit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI
i'm replying to the '90s
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Looking at someone else making a summoner. Any reason why he doesn't use arcane vision on LL? Do your minions give you vision or something?
Seems annoying
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>>168690925
Yeah, you have to be pretty autistic to grind 2000 strands from 95-100.
That said, playing PoE, even in HC, is really braindead so it's actually really enjoyable to play if you talk to friends or listen to music or watch a show at the same time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzyfcys1aLM
maybe he needs the skill point
i remember before they added that node playing ll was pure cancer indoors
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You can just change brightness and see everything
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>>168691584
That's why I'll grind strand for a bit and then go off doing other maps/guardians on different character
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Where can I change brightness? Once I was on a bright nice looking map and left and the other maps were bugged out bright and it looked awesome
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>>168691331
I figure I'll pick that node up if it becomes an issue
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I just use whatever build has the most replies on the forums
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quick, everyone reply to a freeze pulse build
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>>168691912
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361144/page/1

I suggest this build, pretty many answers and clears content like mad man, uber izaro atziri, shaper etc. not a problem.
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epic

meme
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oh shit are they going to unleash the beast and pump out more legacy kaom's hearts
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Am I really going to reinstall this shit?

God dammit.
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i want to see shiggyd get a legacy kaom's and then die with it like 30 minutes later
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>>168692563
Does he play hc only?
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I think he swaps every other league.
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>>168692820
ziggy hardly plays hc at all
he plays like 1 character, dies, then spends 90% of his time on shitcrow
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Why would you ever play HC in this?

90% of it comes down to "better do your research on builds and cheese the fuck out of it" instead of any kind of fun.
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stop spewing bullshit
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>bow randomly throws out 3 green arrows and I can't find whats causing it
>i'm getting frenzy charges but don't remember having anything that should give them

This is weird
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>>168693062
You call throwing yourself at boss/mobs without thinking because you have 6 tries "fun"?
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>>168693062
nobody thinks this game is hard
you play HC because it's more exciting and the economy is better
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post your top 5 rips of all time
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when I ripped your mums dick
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I think this game is too hard and needs ot be made easier for hardcore gamers such as myself.
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How does an enchant like 9% frenzy damage per frenzy charge work?

Does it effect poisons caused by frenzy? That seems absurd but it does just say damage and the poison is damage from frenzy right?
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>tfw defeated phoenix with my 5L meme build
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>tfw finally get all my gems/auras in order
>7 mana
>can't cast my 12 mana wither
rip
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>>168692960
>shitcrow
What is that?
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>>168693094
Gloves enchantment.
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Just found the ascendancy thing in the prison

I have to beat 6 of these to unlock my subclass or something?
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>>168694747
Yes.
It's pretty tough though, so you either get carried, or you wait till you kill malachai before attempting it.
I died like 4 times in there, and now am waiting for a carry. Why did I think that claws were good weapons...
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>>168694660
Oh word of blades, neat
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>>168694360
elreon ring?
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>>168695620
Does he sell unset rings with -mana?
Need the sockets
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>>168695642
Yes
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>>168695679
neat I'll check it out. I think something is just off though. Another guy doing same aura setup as me has like 50 extra mana and 300 total more mana than me baka. I don't know how because only difference is he is using like a 40int belt and I'm not
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>>168695806
higher level enlighten maybe?
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>>168695842
No enlighten used at all. Just his base mana pool is much higher than mine. I guess I'll check it out later. Can only use 1 curse atm
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>>168695930
>>168695806
40 int is 20 mana already
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>>168696058
but that's it. The only difference in gear we have is he is using a crystal belt and I'm using headhunter
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Why don't LL builds use a higher ES chest for content in which they know there'll be zero chaos damage? e.g. if you go against a guardian or Shaper and there's only elemental and phys damage, why stick with a 400 es chest?
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Just ripped my level 84 tried to level a summoner and I wanted to kill myself.
What are some good fun non ed non flamblast non summoned caster builds?
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Blade Vortex
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bladefall
ball lightning
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Wheres the poeg discord lol
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https://discord.gg/0ybQUsRoo91vwONn
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>>168696647
Why not just use coruscating elixir? Chaos damage doesn't come from unexpected sources anyway.
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wish we could get discord filtered to gaia
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>>168697050
hummmmmmmmmmm what? LL builds already reserve 99% of their life with auras so Coruscating wouldn't do much, this still doesnt answer why LL builds would not switch to a higher ES chest instead of stubbornly using Shav
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link and chrome two chest pieces and carry one in your inventory
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>>168697150
You get 2 5 second charges of chaos shavronne's effect, what's not to get?
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reply to this message for a lol
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>>168697220
only useful for hybrids, not LL
not sure you understand how the flask works
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here's your reply
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>>168697150
Because you don't know what mob types are in a map until you have entered and even then there are exiles that do chaos damage, also it stupid to carry around a 6l shavs + 6l es chest
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>>168697337
I specifically said for specific content like unique maps

Shaper does 0 chaos damage, and if you're rich why stick with a 400 es chest
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>>168696647
Why are you so retarded?
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>>168697382
You going to switch chests inbetween each phase?
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>>168697470
Why are you?
>>168697536
Sure, why not
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ur actually dumb desu
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>buy a es chest that is significantly higher than 400 es
>6 link it and get correct colors

wew those coward trials can't kill me now!
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>I'm a poorshit therefore this strategy is invalid
great argument
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what unique maps are so hard for you anon?
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Convenience. You don't need a 900es chest to kill bosses. I COULD switch but there is no fucking point. If you need to switch chest every map or for fights your build is shit
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all I'm saying is if you don't consider +500 es to be worth it you might as well stick with a solaris lorica
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Doesn't shaper spawn spiders with chaos dmg?

Also why don't you swap your whole gear to get high max fire res against phoenix or immortal call+inc dur vs minoutaur? Because you can destroy them in shavs anyway
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About to go fight shaper
Should I switch chest???????
SOMEONE HELP ME

I DON'T THINK I CAN DO IT IN SHAVS
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how do i scam someone of a red dream jewel
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sh*tbirds annoy me so much
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Is no sporkers allowed still a thing?
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>>168698047
You should vendor shit like that.
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if you have the option, why refuse to you it?
you peasants are stupid as fuck I swear

>there's a 400 es chest and 900 es chest, the 400 es offers nothing of worth in this particular fight, which one should you use?

NO I WANT TO USE THE 400 ES ONE MY BUILD TOLD ME I NEEDED IT FOR LL TO FUNCTION

Christ
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>>168698105
yes but fuck off we're full

only elite HC players are allowed in the guild
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>>168698169
Feels free to switch chests yourself you turbo autist. Why do you care if we approve of your pro tactics?
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Dude it's pro strat
While shaper is regening health you switch chests and change all your gems so you can run through the map and make sure a chaos attack doesn't hit you. Then before you enter the portal again you switch it all back
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there's no chaos damage in the entire map you stupid idiot
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>>168698169
aren't there random mobs that spawn between phases? Do any of them deal chaos damage?
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sure sure
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Why you turbo autists just don't give your chests to me?
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post your ign
you can have my shavs since I'll just use a solaris lorica now and switch to my CI chest
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>>168698534
Makestr
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I should make a 2nd account just to pm people to buy shit that is overpriced and waste their time because it makes me angry
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>>168698886
yes
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>>168698534
Catshitter
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>penta dipping
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you guys prefer spirit offering or flesh offering for spectres?
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i thought of a gamebreaking build poeg

zombie summoner with necromantic aegis, bone offering and vengeance
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>>168698216
m8

it's greust

original founder of NSA for like two months before aleksi took over

I still regret not picking a better guild name

inv me bro, ign mememancer
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What's the word on level range and area?

Whats wrong with playing as level 5+ on area level? What do people here play the area level as?
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pathfinder summoner with umbilicus
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Is there any point in playing right now since the league is changing in two weeks?
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>>168699858
Good time to figure out what kind of build you want to make and re-familiarize with the game
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if you're new, yes, learn the game before the new league starts

if not, no real point unless you wanna try a new build
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If you play for enjoyment then play whenever you want. If you only care about challenges and shit then no point to play
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>>168682498
>That fucking life roll

vendor it you cunt.
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Why skill gems can't stay legacy but items can?
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>>168699272
Minions can't use skills that aren't inherently their own.

So any skills granted by a shield passed with NA (triggered or not) wont work.
Any skills granted by items animated on a Guardian or AW (triggered or not) wont work.

Even shit that isn't a skill but references an object that isn't the minion itself wont work, e.g. The Scourge when animated wont create wolves on kill.

Anything interesting regarding minions and items granting weird effects wont work.
The dream of 2 essence of insanity crafted Sai's put on a Guardian will never be.
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what's a zero budget build to kill 2 weeks with
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just play whatever is fun
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>>168699596
Legitimately strong as fuck.
Master Surgeon still removes bleed on you while wearing umbilicus.
Increased effect of flasks and increased flask effect duration modifiers both affect flask effects on your minions while wearing umbilicus.
All the "while using a flask" modifiers carry over and affect your minions while wearing umbilicus.

If zombies were's so weak compared to spectres and golems a pathfinder zombiemancer would be a great starter build.
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>>168700297
any suggestions
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just found a super cheap meta build on forum to play in 2.6
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>forum
enjoy clearing t5 map in 10 minutes
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>>168700589
and...?
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>>168700589
I hope patch notes wont fuck you over
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>>168700036
why would you reply

why would you do that
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yeah every build on the forums is shit. Only ones that can clear game are sekret homebrew builds you make yourself
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cats images should be banned just like ponies
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seriously what's a fun zero budget build
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>>168682498
Hahahaha
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>>168700916
It's why I'm here my friend.
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>>168700589
You know that all turboautists post their best builds there because they want fame and attention? Also they can boast to their autistic poe friends that they have the most popular build.
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What anime do you watch while you play, /poeg/?
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cory in the house
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>>168700589
And what build is that
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>>168685019
Shaper is the exception. For most other end boss content, Abyssus is terrible. It is even not recommended in scrubcore for most guardians and never used against Uber.
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How the fuck "abyssus is terrible", this is not 2.0 when everybody used light coil

Physical damage is meme, ele dmg is scary
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>Physical damage is meme
You're pretty retarded dude
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>using abyssus

poopigeon spotted
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>>168702083
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>>168702303
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>>168702456
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>>168702083
>>168702303
>>168702456
>>168702659
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>>168702760
Dumb frogposter
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>>168702760
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I know I'm a tard but I figured out my problem with wither. I should have just kept it at level 1 lol
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>>168701489
How is that in any way a bad thing for someone who's just browsing the forums for a good build?
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>>168703129
Not a bad thing, I just said that the good builds are in the forums.
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alright boys i have 29 challenges and i'm hoping to push for those wings, but i only have ~80c on bsc. how doable is this before league ends?

not pictured is gain splinters 4/5 (need chay) and ident breach uniques 3/5 (need phys and chaos)
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>>168703432
Easy, just buy shaper run, do sextant mods, corrupt those 4 jews, kill remaining breach cucklords and complete final encounter.
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>>168703432
It's going to be difficult unless you luck out and find someone to help you with the RNG gated ones, sextants is basically impossible solo and Chayula is a guaranteed brick if you don't have to dps to push through the breachstone like butter
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>>168703563
buying shaper is easy, sextant mods are not, jewels are fairly easy, breach bosses aren't bad, final encounter is 10 perandus coffers which is hard to get

he'll have to play all day every day to get it done
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I just realized I'm hoarding currency and I don't really know why
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I keep breathing... but...
why?
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>>168703563
nice, thanks, i'll look into those

>>168703660
i can't do the damage for chay, but affording the breachstone is going to be a battle in itself

>>168703683
coffers seem to be the most manageable right now, just sitting in chat waiting to snipe people offering them
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If I can support my auras at level 18 blood magic is there actually any point for going past it?
It just seems to make the strength requirement harder with no benefit
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is it march 3rd already
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>>168704187
You're a special flavour of autismo to think those are even comparable
nys
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>>168704212
you can buy chayula kill also for like 5c probably
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>>168702760
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why do girls pretend to love path of exile
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>>168703250
i dont know but I want to know
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my gf pretended until she made a shit build and kept dying and quit.
Hasn't played in weeks now
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>>168703432
You need to plan around RNG. I would expect to not get:
>Map Tiers
>Complete three Endgame Grinds
>Complete These Sextant Mods
>Gain Splinters

so you're doing everything else, some of which will cost a lot more than 80c. Currency sinks here are:
>Create these Corrupted Jewels
>Identify Breach Uniques
>Upgrade Breach Unique Items
>Complete Atlas Bonus Objectives
>Complete These Encounters III (Coffers)
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I actually don't even know how I got chaos ID done
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reminder that if you use double dipping, you're an unethical player

you wouldn't use roller skates in a foot race
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>>168682876
Clannad?
Dude, thats some OLD shit.
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>>168705301
I have to double dip for spectres to be good
fuck you
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>>168705368
if you lack ethics in a fucking video game, i don't want to be near you in real life

you probably kick homeless people and puppies too
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poison is a meme. you get more damage via penetration
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A gorgeous fightah!
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Where is liftingnerdbro from?
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douchebagland
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How can hardcore players even compete?

>Softcore
Mathil, 9/10 facial and body aesthetics
LiftingNerdBro; 9/10 gainz, fucks your bitch
GeneralTsoChicken, 8/10 facial aesthetics, buff as fuck

>"Hardcore"
Zizaran, borderling retard, sits on his chair 16 hours a day
Raiz, overweight polish pig
Uberelite, more like untermensch

If you ask me, "hardcore" players in this game are the laughing stock of the world
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Hey I'm a new(ish) player at lv49 and I've been using the same axe for like 20 levels now.
Looking at poe.trade I could have been buying unique items for a single alchemy stone?

If the listing is a week or two old should I even bother asking for it?
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>>168685718
Could also go the Advancing Fortress way and make it a 1h weapon outright, but without any physical damage or any other added damage to attacks other than movement skills.
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>>168707068
just message a bunch of guys dude
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So,i haven't rolled a shield/block char since Torment and got an itch for some shield&sword gameplay,is Gladi any good for endgame content?I kinda want to focus on only 1 char for the next league so if possible i'd like it to be one that can clear most of the content.I also don't mind cheesing it with poison/double dipping/whatever since it'll most likely be gone in 3.0
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>>168707068
If they're online just message them, dawg. Doesn't matter how long it's been up. If it's already gone it won't be listed. poe.trade searches public tabs like every 10 seconds or something for updates
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Is shield charge attack speed a valuable enchant?
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I'm brewing a shitty funbuild using rigwald's curse + facebreaker and frenzy as main skill. Pls help.

Here is the path of building for it:

pastebin dot com slash VnnmvVBr
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>>168707141
gladiator is pretty fucking good right now

>>168707215
search poetrade it isn't hard, but I would say no
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>>168707141
Yeah, Gladiator is really good, shitcrows just don't play it because they have an aversion to block builds for some reason, it's perfectly suited for anything the game throws at you and Gratuitous Violence scales with monster life
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>Look up trade listings
>Some people are demanding 20 alteration orbs for basic items
What the fuck
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>>168707397
??? 20 alts is not much
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>>168707278
thing is most enchanted helms I find there are shitty hubris circlets with high prices so I don't really consider poe.trade any good for enchant pricing
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>>168707217
>frenzy as main skill
why?
what is blood rage
what is warden's brand
what is raider

zero reason to use frenzy as a fucking melee skill you dweeb
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>>168707503
My choices as unarmed melee are either frenzy (shit), ice crash or cyclone. I'm not sure cyclone works with the low unarmed range. I could try Ice crash.

> what is warden's brand
Totally forgot this item existed
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>>168707616
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Martial_Artistry
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>>168707278
>>168707293
Nice,thanks.I guess something like Poison BF would allow me to have an easier time right?

Also,from what i see i guess Painforged,Versatile Combatant and Gratuitous Violence are a must but i can't really choose the last one,probably depends on the rest of my build though.
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>>168706779
i can tell he has pencil legs
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>>168707470
If it's a good enchant there will be a bunch posted and recent. If it's a shit enchant there is usually only a couple up for cheap, or some up for weeks at low price
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This is Vinia.

Say something nice about her.
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>>168707840
Poison BF, sure, can't go wrong with that

I'd go with Blood in the Eyes, both defensive and offensive option, and all the generic "increased damage" double dip for bleed/poison
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>>168708070
I like her Divination card desu.
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>>168707141

dude max block is the most cheese in poe right now, you just need to be cautious of DoT

>>168707503
>>168707616

frenzy is underrated for single target damage if you have 8-9 max frenzy charges.
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>>168708070

She has a nice armor. I want that armor set as a drop.
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Anyone have a rundown of the breachlords that are hes/shes?
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>>168708168
I was going for 7 charges (passive skills + bandit) and raider passives for maximum SPEED with them. But I really don't need frenzy for generation.

I think it's better if I use Ice crash with >>168707704

for free area.
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>>168688284
>gamebreakin
>ssfhc

wew lad
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>>168708168
irrelevant, you don't build around a single target skill as your main skill

>dude heavy strike is underrated for single target damage lmao

good thing the game doesn't consist in a series of single enemies
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>>168708102
I haven't really started planning the build but if i manage to incorporate full uptime frenzy/endu charges i might go with Outmatch and Outlast instead,but Blood in the Eyes seems like the easiest choice (could always respec it later).

Thanks again.
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So if I were of making a gladiator block build with Broken Faith in league, which weapon should I go for? Thinking of the Innsbury Edge currently.
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>>168708251
Esh is female for sure,and Chayula most likely (but Chayu transcends gender,that's why it's always called the Bitch).

>>168708194
Just start spamming GGG for it and they might release it as a MTX with 3.0 or something.
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>>168708458

Forget Outmatch and Outlast. Get that Blood in the Eyes, and also either one of bleed DoT clusters.

>>168708689

Dont want it as MTX armor. I have a bloody beef with MTX armors.
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>Tfw 2 weeks till the league
>4 months till 3.0
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>>168708689

Xoph - male
Tul - female
Esh - female
Uul-Nethol - female
Chayula - male
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>>168685718
Speaking of Unique Shields, still waiting on a Unique Tower Shield with
>Cannot Equip a Weapon
>Grants Level 1 Shield Bash (A skill whose damage scales with your armor), bashes all enemies in a small cone in front of you
>Can have up to 6 sockets as an additional modifier
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What is best defense for a summoner? Right now I basically just have regen and zealot's oath but I still tend to get fucked up
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>>168708819
>Forget Outmatch and Outlast. Get that Blood in the Eyes, and also either one of bleed DoT clusters.
Well,i'm gonna trust you on this one then.

>Dont want it as MTX armor
I doubt they're gonna give it to us in any other form since Piety is their (and also most of the community's) waifu,so that means many shekels for them.
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>>168708920
Do you have a source for this?
Can't find anything about this lore online
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>>168709023
This just screams Facebreakers to me,although it seems you wanted something shield-centric.
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Reminder that if you play hc you should ALWAYS take endurance charge in merciless
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>>168709292
how big was her penis again?
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>2d (((women)))
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>>168709141

Trust me, because you can do Uber Izaro with breeze, and farming shit has never been so fun.

Depends also on weapon/skill - Im using Rive claw, with is great on its own, but that bleed buff is nice. Scaeva sword crit - also very nice.
Facemashers and Abyssus will be very bloody good.

Gladiator is a very versatile class.

>>168709160

Read league-specific item descriptions.
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>>168707141
Look for Sovyn's lazy pally
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>>168708819
>either one of bleed DoT clusters.
>Dirty Techniques seem stronger since i go with poison too
>On the other hand Bloodletting is closer and also has that sword cluster next to it
Dammit,i think i'll spend quite some time on this tree this time.
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>>168708624
Innsbury has garbage damage, the phys2chaos conversion is interesting but even if you pick up hybrid phys/chaos damage nodes from the Shadow area, it's not enough to compare to a cookie cutter high pdps weap imo, possibly useful for phys spells but not attacks

As for options, whatever you can afford depending on league progress and your budget, including

Rabid Rhoa claw, self-farmable, costs nothing and has a solid t1 flat
the flat chaos prefix alone is doing more damage than Innsbury, let alone if you start to take into account the claw base pdps and additional mods you can augment+regal+mastercraft

into

Breath of the Council (high pdps, 60-80% chaos damage, 10% AoE), can't be used with BF but a solid budget option for 1h EQ, fairly available because it only requires the Pale Council prophecy chain

into

Varunastra, for obvious reasons, scales with everything and the implicit/base are confirmed to getting a solid buff, can be used for BF/EQ

into

The Scourge, again for obvious reasons, high pdps, high attack speed, generic damage double dipping on poison damage, near BiS for poison BF probably

a very good Decay crafted Sai is probably an option too, but it requires luck on the craft, and the 6% block implicit is probably not even needed as a Gladiator, frees some points though
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>>168709516
Thanks
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>>168709160
Xoph
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Xoph%27s_Nurture
>Upon the grey winds his love spreads
>his

Tul
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1801669/page/1#p14017491
>Tul no longer takes reduced damage while doing her Projectile Barrage skill
>her

Esh
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Esh%27s_Visage
>She could see what she was not
>She

Uul-Netol
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Uul-Netol%27s_Embrace
>At last she holds us, and so we turn to dust.
>she

Chayula
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/United_in_Dream
>They grow fat and ripe in slumber. To be fed upon when he wakes.
>he
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>>168709576
>Templar
Probably pass since i'm getting bored of him.Thanks though,will check it.

>>168709516
>Gladiator is a very versatile class.
Yeah,can see that.I'd try with claws too but i just want a Shield&Sword this time.
>>
>female:
sole female
sister
femdom
small breasts

Is this build hc viable?
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needs more foot
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>>168709930

Then grab a well rolled Scaeva. You will have 10% base crit chance with it. Grab some sword crit nodes, and even with 30% crit on BF you will be a beast.
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>>168710138
link
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When do patch notes for next update come?
this is first league desu
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>>168709270
Shield Bash doesn't scale with Melee Damage or Unarmed Damage.
It scales with your Armor, Gems, and Flat Added Damage.
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>>168710913
I think it's usually 2 days or so before the league start
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>>168710351
One last question for now .I'm reading a bit on double-dipping and i get that generic modifiers (like AoE damage or Projectile damage) help,but more specific ones (like Phys damage with Swords for example) don't,is that correct?So i should aim for Melee or Physical damage nodes right?
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>>168710913
patch notes are usually released 3 days before a league starts so we have 10 days of literally nothing but shitposting and maybe a manifesto on balance changes in the next week
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>>168710921
I know,i just thought that many would use the shield for the 6-link and thus being allowed to wear a Kaoms or something.
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>>168711081
There's no way for melee attacks to DD except AoE damage modifiers and generic damage
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>>168711083
>>168710962
aw okay. Thanks
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>>168688284
eh, just go something that you can abuse with double curse and EE and beware of reflect, preferably fire so you can double dip.
I remember running self-cast burning discharge like that ages ago, it was pretty much one-hit kill.
Vaal some RF gems for vaal righteous fire, that's about as much DPS abuse you can get without trade
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>>168711226
Ok ,no DDing then.Didn't really care about it either way,just a nice added bonus if it was possible.
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auction house with instant buyout when?
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>>168711432
oh forgot, also try to put a bit of crit there ofc. You want to go crazy on the damage. Also go Vaal Pact with lifeleach gem otherwise you so dead nigga. hell you prolly still dead anyway nigga
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b-b-but muh playur interakshun
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>>168711192
Interesting point.
How about in addition to the
>Cannot Equip a Weapon
mod,
>Cannot Wear Gloves
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>>168708070
6 more acts means we'll see her 6 more times :^)
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>>168711767
Then i doubt that many people would sacrifice a weapon AND the gloves slot just for that skill.It seems to me that a jewel that'd buff Shield Charge in the way you want would be a better option.
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>>168709618
Between Malicious claw, Varunastra and Scourge I might as well go for a few claw nodes as well. Mostly the Malicious claw, until I have farmed enough for Scourge.

Planned pathing would take shield block, frenzy (if I can fit in frenzy generation) and phys/chaos damage nodes from the right side. Maybe even the phys/chaos cluster between Shadow and Witch if I don't lose too much on defenses.

That said, thanks.
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>>168711767
GGG has already, publicly and numerously stated that they wont add any more "disable some other item slot" uniques.
The 3 narcissist swords, thief's torment and BoR is already too many for their liking.
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>>168706779
>mathil
>body aesthetics
lel oh fucking lel. The dude so short its just hillarious if you see him irl or next to anyone.
King of Manlet softcucks
>>
Is nanotsuki our guy?
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Wither CwC Frenzy to generate charges, does frenzy have to do damage to generate charges? Wiki says as long as it's a hit, so I assume so. Also will frenzy cast a projectile in scepter? It is CAST when channeling
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>>168712397
>Wither CwC Frenzy
Frenzy is not a spell.
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>>168712537
Fuck I'm stupid, thanks
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>>168712397
>Also will frenzy cast a projectile in scepter? It is CAST when channeling
How can you manage day to day things like boiling water, opening a door or shitposting online when your IQ is sub 60?
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guys I just started this game and im trying for a necromancer witch and im level 23, how retarded is my build?

I have:

summon skeletons
raise zombie
spirit offering
contagion

_________plz no bully
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>>168712895
My build is better than yours, NERD!
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>>168712218
t. 6' beta virgin who's only got his height going for him

mathil would fuck your mom and you would thank him for it
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>>168713335
It's pretty bad I would recommend doing this instead
It's more efficient that way with end game in mind
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anyone talking shit about mathil is a hardcuck neet who's never even 40/40 ever without buying half of xhis challenges
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>>168712218
>The dude so short
That's my fetish though.Short powerbottoms are even better desu.
>>
>>168713335
Why did you skip those ES nodes? Saving points to get to minion nodes isn't worth it, you will more than likely get hit even if you have minions everywhere
>>
what separates poeg from r/pathofexile considering we have no way of enforcing a shitter filter and f*cking noobs flood our general every pre-league fortnight?
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>>168713335
I've seen worse
Run up to the spectre cluster and get a bunch of life nodes and then go down to the last cluster near the circle of ES
then go CI, and get dual curse
and wow you're done!
>>
its xis dummy, at least shitpost properly
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>>168713789

path of reddit enforces the official TOS

we dont. we can discuss macros, poesmoother, etc. or at least direct people to them when/if they ask
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>>168713585
Thanks, also should I only be relying on my summons or should I have a decent spell to dps with?
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>>168713919
being a cheating subhuman makes you worse than a noob though
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>>168713585
>Telling a new guy who is only level 23 to set up for CI that early
>>168713335
Ideally, you'll want to aim for this up until level 69.
Then you convert it into that other guy's thing.
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>>168714009

poesmoother is not cheating, hence why its tolerated (Even if you cant discuss it on the forums/reddit)

some macros do cheat, some dont. up to you how you use it, but pretending they dont exist and they arent useful is retarded
>>
>>168713985
It depends on how you want to build your character. You can rely on summoning only and then have something like wither linked with cast while channeling and a spirit/bone/flesh offering of your choice.

>>168714079
I was just saying his direct path was inefficient. You can still grab loads of health nodes around you while leveling. Also that isn't a CI build baka
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>>168714174
>my ways of cocksucking is not as gay as other ways of cocksucking
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>>168713985
You can absolutely go full minions.

People usually use Elemental Equilibrium with minions, using Arc to deal lightning damage and Anger aura + generosity.
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>>168714206
>Hybrid
>Despite passing right by CI
>Despite taking ES nodes all over
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>>168713534
you just keep telling yourself that mathil, you just keep telling yourself that.

You know how I came to suspect you were a manlet? (and later confirmed) Your PoE vids have an intro with pictures of you doing sports (lol wut), and in angle where there's never someone else close or something that one can compare your weight to.
Also in at least the last one I checked you have a poster behind you in full view on the wall of you practicing a sport, with you positioned in such a way that you can always see it.
Place that camera lower man, hahaha. Seriously you are overcompensating so hard its hilarious.
But the real crime is that you are terribly boring personality-wise.
Yoji probably gets 10 times more pussy than you do just by charisma stat difference.
Hell, I dont remember a single PoE streamer that is less interesting than you when it comes to personality, now that is sad
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>>168714302
I'm LL summoner. It should be pretty obvious, dude. More auras=better
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>>168714364
you reek of insecurity rofl
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>>168714373
>Telling a new user to just go get a Shav's like it's free
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>>168714280
its a single player game, specially now with ssfhc being the true manmode litmus test

why do you care how other people single player games?

like i said, i dont encourage anyone to use 3rd party tools, but if anyone ask, pretending they dont exist is retarded. i dont owe GGG any loyalty
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>>168714514
k
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>>168714562
who's pretending they don't exist?

the point of contention is not whether we should burrow this supposedly uncomfortable truth, but whether using those 3rd party programs makes you a beta loser (it does)

you sound like a middle schooler desperate to prove he's grown up by smoking and drinking, you don't get cool points for using a cheat you fucking twat
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>>168714523
are you retarded? I was just showing him his direct pathing was inefficient and it's better to go under and go through foresight. I wasn't telling him specifically to go CI, LL, or anything
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How do I "triple dip"?
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>>168715006
dip once
then again
then again
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>>168714812
>who's pretending they don't exist?

official forums and lebbit

>>168714812
>but whether using those 3rd party programs makes you a beta loser (it does)

its your opinion. but im interesting in reading why you think you should push this ideology as an absolute truth. what do you gain from it?

>>168714812
>you sound like a middle schooler desperate to prove he's grown up by smoking and drinking, you don't get cool points for using a cheat you fucking twat

you sound like the middle school so desperate to ingratiate himself with figures of authority that he goes and rats out the kids smoking behind the gym even if that has zero effect on him
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>>168715006
is there even such a thing?
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>>168715187
no. only retards who dont understand scaling believe thats a thing
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Ask your mom
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>>168714364
>Caring this much about any streamer
Disgusting.Actually,caring about streamers at all is stupid desu.
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is there a build where I can abusing bleeding, poison, and chaos damage
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>>168715154
>official forums and lebbit
everyone knows they exist, talking about it is just censored there, big difference you fucking retard

thus your argument becomes less of enlightening the masses and more one of personal justification

>its your opinion. but im interesting in reading why you think you should push this ideology as an absolute truth. what do you gain from it?
I don't give a shit about "pushing" an ideology but if you act like a faggot, you get called out on it

another difference with reddit you stupid little shit

>you sound like the middle school so desperate to ingratiate himself with figures of authority that he goes and rats out the kids smoking behind the gym even if that has zero effect on him
when did I say it did? you're a loser and that's your right to be a loser, but at least have some balls to admit you're one
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>>168715374
>not triggering streamers and their followers
that's about all they exist for m8.
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>>168715485
duelist with the proper ascendancy and phys skills with good multipliers + flasks

or just any phys build with voidheart and flasks
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>>168715485
Bloodlust poison SRS
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>>168715485
the shit is, bleed and poison want different things.
Bleed wants the most heavy single target hit, poison wants less heavy, faster hits.

You wont be able to take best advantage of both at the same time.
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>>168715485
>bleeding, poison, and chaos damage
Something built around Rive i guess?It seems they'll give a general claw-buff this league too so check that out (maybe Assassin).

>>168715636
True dat.
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what in the fuck was ggg thinking when they made united in dream
they want double dipping
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>>168715892
>GGG
>Thinking
They just throw shit to the wall and make sure that whatever sticks gets washed away in a later patch.
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>>168715892
balanced by rarity
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>>168715635

Attempting to create the narrative that using 3rd party tools and macros is bad is you embracing and pushing an ideology where you uphold either whatever the ToS says as divine and sacred, or your own set of idealized notions of how the game should player as something sacred. Not unlike the ideology some others (me as well) push about hc being the proper way to play this game.

I was merely interested in hearing more on the issue but if you can't even acknowledge you are doing it i guess we wont get too far on that matter.

Also its funny how you positively compared reddit to /poeg/ on their ability to downvote things they dont agree with, but not surprised since downvoting is clearly easier than having an actual argument, which you clearly cant.
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I'm thinking of finally using a pot macro next league that just binds 12345 to a single button for me. While there's a certain pleasure to piano-ing my potions every 5 seconds, it really inihibits my ability to press buttons other than Q.

Anyway, my question is do I just use AutoHotKey? Should I bother with precautions like randomizing delay between presses?
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Has /poeg/ ascended to some higher form of shitposting?
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>>168716512
>Anyway, my question is do I just use AutoHotKey? Should I bother with precautions like randomizing delay between presses?

yes and yes
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So is this the final expansion? What else could they possibly add after this?
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>>168716331
>Attempting to create the narrative that using 3rd party tools and macros is bad is you embracing and pushing an ideology where you uphold either whatever the ToS says as divine and sacred
wrong, it's "bad" and pathetic on a personal level because it is the implicit admission you're a shitter who can't succeed in the original environment and needs external help, whether in the form of 3rd party programs or other players, to achieve some success

>or your own set of idealized notions of how the game should player
nothing idealized about it, real players don't cheat, just like real normal human beings who haven't regressed to an animalistic level don't eat their own shit, it's not an unconventional train of thought

>Attempting to create the narrative that using 3rd party tools and macros is bad is you embracing and pushing an ideology where you uphold either whatever the ToS says as divine and sacred
there is nothing to debate, if you use a cheat in any form or degree, that makes you a loser, but you probably justify buying boss kills and challenges too so no surprise, your shitter brain is literally wired to justify being a diappershitter

>Also its funny how you positively compared reddit to /poeg/ on their ability to downvote things they dont agree wit
I didn't, I pointed out the irony in saying poeg is better than reddit because you can talk about things without fear of being uncensored and at the same time reverting to bitch victim mode when you get called out on being a faggot (something that can't happen on reddit)
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>>168716719
we've only explored only like 25% of Wraeclast
we've yet to destroy evil at its source(s)
the entire Beyond world remains a mystery
whatever gave Shaper his world shaping powers remains a mystery
we haven't used time travel yet
we haven't used space travel yet
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>>168716719
>What else could they possibly add after this?
Nothing.It's just one last huzzah +xbone version for one big shekel-gathering and after that it'll go on life-support.
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GGG is already working on their next IP. It's a MOBA/FPS hybrid set in the PoE world.
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>>168716963
>we haven't used time travel yet
>we haven't used space travel yet
I think these 2 might be actually WORSE than just not getting anything new lore-wise.And unfortunately i can see time-travel down the line at some point.
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>>168717224
it's an arpg, the lore takes the backseat, and unlike something like Diablo, they've not written themselves into a corner with a generic DEMONS VERSUS ANGELS fantasy trope, so it's really up to their writers to come up with anything that remotely makes sense, e.g. stronger forces rather than Diablo being revived for the 5th time
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>>168716963
But we're not getting anymore Acts.
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>>168716745

It is interesting how you equal buying challenges and kills to using 3rd party tools. So it's not actually the ToS that you've idealized, but like i said, your own personal opinion how the game should be played, and you've turned it into an ideology of self-imposed rules and policy.

But its a flawed ideology for these reasons:

Macros reflect your understanding of game mechanics and of your own build, since PoE is full of arbitrary and invisible cooldowns and skill delays (which is why using many skills instead of spamming just one feels like shit), a good macro will account for all that.

Macros also reflect your understand of to which degree GGG is willing or punish automation, and past which point they simply don't care.

I don't know if your anti-automation pseudoluddite ideology is merely just blatant virtue signaling or you actually roleplay this game under a notion of "honor", but either way, i suspect it to be a thinly veiled appeal to authority out of some misplaced sense of gratitude to GGG.
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>>168717521
probably not until a while but that doesn't mean you can't laterally add content which is what they've been doing with

sacrifice of the vaal
ascendancy
prophecy
atlas of worlds
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>>168717617
None of those you listed are story expansions.
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>>168717456
True,and they can keep going "This ancient evil you killed was keeping that OTHER ancient evil in check so now go kill the new one" ad infinitum.But "and suddenly SPACESHIPS AND LAZORS" seems a tad out of place in my opinion.
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>>168717576
it is a matter of honor and I easily hold the moral high ground over a shitter who has to justify using cheats and buying challenges

what differentiates /vg/ from plebbit is not so much the fact that you're free to shitpost about anything here to a degree, but also the fact we have an unspoken pride as hardcore gamers to elevate ourselves over the pleb masses of reddit normies

a pride you relinquish when you use a macro because you're literally too shit to thrive as a player without crutches
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>>168716719
>So is this the final expansion?
no

>What else could they possibly add after this?
more areas/bosses, most obviously. and at some point redo a lot of the shitty act 1-3 monster models I hope

less obviously, I wouldn't be surprised if GGG makes a more ambitious attempt at something like the labyrinth but with more randomness and less platformer nonsense.
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>>168717701
what? they add to the lore one way or the other, what is even your point? the lore is not contained to the story mode, because atziri's realm and beyond are canonical, which is why it shouldn't be too difficult to imagine they could add further acts in the future exploring those areas
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>>168717701
We won't know then until we see where the end of the 10th act leaves us,but seeing how we now go around killing gods doesn't seem to leave a whole lotta room to work with.
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>>168716116
it's not hard to farm 600c and buy one...
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>>168718062
if something costs 600c it should be by definition pretty powerful
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>>168717576
Man you went full edge in the end there
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>>168683179
You got décent t'as te incmeat but POE si bae
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>>168717887

You can have your honor if you wish to roleplay. I'll have my QoL since i dont.

>but also the fact we have an unspoken pride as hardcore gamers to elevate ourselves over the pleb masses of reddit normies

Youre right. But virtue signalling with your honor RP is just one way we elevate ourselves above the masses that only take part in heavily regulated discussions. Pushing the boundaries of comfort and efficiency with automation is another way. Call it cheating, i dont care. I call you an RPing fag, and im sure you dont care either.
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>>168717521
source?

I know a really long time Chris said there would eventually be 10 acts, but he also said that would happen much later than it did. things change. i also think he was imagining fully unique areas, not what Oriath is doing
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>>168718326
you're pathetic on a level I cannot comprehend

trying to argue with you is as pointless as trying to discuss morals with a serial child molester
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SRS benefits from melee physical support right?
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>>168718472
>you're pathetic on a level I cannot comprehend

glad we agree matters of ideology are beyond your comprehension

the best part? its a single player game so we wont actually meet each other in-game and i wont taint your RP experience with my cheats, and you wont slow me down with your honorable way to slay beasts. so we can all get along just fine
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>>168717521
>>168718340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a11NfvfTDUI
skip to 2:10
Chris says they're not stopping at 10 acts, the "one playthrough" thing is something they've wanted for a while and now they can freely expand on it in the future
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>>168719072
I believe there was also a post in reddit or forums somewhat recently that confirmed this as well
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Can anybody pastebin their PoE flask macro + logout AHK script?
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stop being unethical cheaters and learn to play the game, retards
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>>168719072
I'm surprised they want to add more acts since they would have to rebalance the zone levels each time. I would prefer if they fully replace acts 6-10 with new content instead of adding act 11.
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>>168719353
#ifwinactive pathofexile
exec "C:\Program Files\Path of Exile\uninstaller.exe"
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tfw nothing to do for 2 weeks
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let's discuss SSFHC strategies
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>>168719505
logout macros aren't cheating and flask macros, while against the ToS, are literally just quality of life

>>168719573
don't bully me nerd
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>>168719760
Turn on SSF and go Hardcore.
Realize E-peen doesn't matter, turn it off, and have fun.
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>slot machine the game
>strategies
>>
it's a slot machine with intricate levers interacting with each other
you'd be a fool to think the dried lake lever is the solution to everything
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>>168682663
Reasons NOT to play SSF
>nothing more than a LADDER
>a ladder to compare playing SOLO
>confusing played time with skill
>confusing RNG with skill
>same player gets ALL zone firsts
>same player gets ALL level firsts
>10x slower to get a decent build together
>all of the frustration of having a trash clear
>none of the convenience of trading for what you need
>rerolling so painful you may as well uninstall
>in THE most ridiculous league for builds, Legacy
>all for a fuck LADDER that measures play time of the top account sharers
Remember PVP and racing? SSF will be dropped by 3.0
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best thing about SSF is that a lot of the mediocre uniques that mean jack-shit normally become exciting
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>>168720478
>none of the convenience of trading for what you need
kind of the point bro
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>>168720478
there's only 24 hours a day

RNG evens out, the first to get a tabula is not the first to reach level 100, this system is much fairer than top 1% streamers or coordinated groups funneling 50% of the league's wealth

legacy league will be one of the most SSF friendly leagues ever if you think about it, you can literally rig the game to drop powerful build enabling legacy uniques, something impossible in previous leagues unless you liked paying 5 billion chaos for zana mods
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>>168720526
They're still jack-shit.
>Hit level 50
>Gorebreaker drops
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>>168709468
pussy
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>>168720689
Cool well have fun doing all your trials again in non-SSF when you realize how bored you are
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>>168720734
thinking more along the lines of stuff like The Perfect Form. at level 50 gorebreaker is just bad not mediocre
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>>168721147
Perfect Form is great though. Why would you ever think it's mediocre.
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>>168720734
>>168720798
remember that triumph means nothing without struggle

remember that next time you buy a boss kill

remember that next tim you buy a challenge

remember that next time you buy a 6L and quit on the character 2 hours later because you're "bored" of it

remember that next time you buy 50 regrets because you need to copypaste the latest streamer build

remember that every time you interrupt your mapping flow to scam some poor noob with your overpriced piece of shit

remember that next time you read "This player is AFK" 10 times in a row
>>
SAN FRAN
SISCO
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>>168720950
lol at people talking like SSF is something that GGG just now came up with and nobody's ever done it before
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>>168719353
what kind of flask macro you are looking for?

automatic or manual
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>>168721471
manual
I just want to bind 12345 to 1 button.
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>>168721759
>6L
>Socket in nothing but Support Gems
>Whirl in Boots with Fortify
>Teleport all over the fucking place, flicking, LW, Dash, Leap, and Whirl
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>>168721759
restrictive uniques are shit and it encourages the clear speed meta which is also shit
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>>168721262
It's very niche as a better choice than mid-range rare chests.
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>>168721916
>uniques shouldn't be unique and should work on every build
???????
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when are we getting relevant news???

2 weeks of literally nothing jesus christ GGG marketing team sucks my hype is already waning having to wait and having NOTHING to do

racing died for this shit?
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>>168722004
no but they should be open enough to encourage creativity rather than spell out the intended use for you like a sword that poisons on hit and poisons you on hit as if CI + melee damage on full life needed more buffs


bronn's lithe is a nicely designed unique in comparison, +2 to movement skills and evasion based, can work with either lighting warp or movement attack skills
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>>168719760
step 1: git gud
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>>168722392
you should refrain from dishing out advice you can't follow yourself
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>>168721540

Sendmode Input

#IfWinActive, ahk_exe PathOfExileSteam.exe

;replace PathOfExileSteam.exe with the proper name of the client you are using or remove that line if you cant be bothered to find out.

~1:: ;potion trigger

Random, rand_healthpot, 110, 160
sleep %rand_healthpot%
Send {2}
Random, rand_healthpot, 110, 160
sleep %rand_healthpot%
Send {3}
Random, rand_healthpot, 110, 160
sleep %rand_healthpot%
Send {4}
Random, rand_healthpot, 110, 160
sleep %rand_healthpot%
Send {5}
Random, rand_healthpot, 110, 160
sleep %rand_healthpot%
return
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>>168722490
talk to my demis cuz my face ain't listening
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How bad
Is the node
That gives you
10% chance to poison
I'd rather not waste a gem socket but it also will cost me 6 points to grab. My build is chaos and phys based, poison is just a small damage increase
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>>168722676
show me your SSFHC demi
wait, you don't have one?
so shut your pie hole
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>>168722835
i do but i bricked it
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>>168722785
It's fucking terrible. Even at 10 hits per second, you're only stacking one poison debuff per second, are you retarded? why does this need to be spelled out for you?
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>>168722295
> CI + melee damage on full life
do people do this with two-handers?

you're right though, i just rolled with the poison since the name + idea was cool
felt like movement skills could use some love as an actual main attack
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>>168719760
don't die
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>>168723058
people roll anything with CI these days, even ngamahu cyclone is played as CI
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>>168722524
holy shit thanks a lot senpai
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>>168720950

I take it you never played Diablo 2 pre-internet age?
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>>168722980
It's my first time trying to make my own build, stop bullying me dick lips
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Lets make up new skills

Phantom strike : Your attacks can create copies of yourself and each copy has a chance of generating an extra one, theres a limit to how many

Dominating blow becomes a support gem: Stores the souls of slayed enemies and releases them when the threshold is met

Demonic puncture: Single target increases strength and raw life on hit, buffs last 30 seconds and theres a cap

New summon : Primal zombie similar to skeleton general only buffes zombies, increases summons movement speed and attack speed slightly and Consumes corpses granting regeneration to summons.Limited to 1

Thorns skin: Aura returns damage when hit by a % of the main stat. For block builds for example.

vaal infernal blow: It charges souls from enemies, for up to 20 seconds, who die by your hand and deals damage proportionally the amount of souls stored

Time shift: freezes anything that is inside the field for a few seconds has high cooldown
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>>168721364
I don't see the point of SSF

if it was a permanent separately league that cannot be changed up until the league ends then i would see it as viable since they would actually could up the rates without fucking the economy of the other leagues
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>>168723997
>GGG
>Actually balancing the game for SSF so you can actually craft and find decent Unique Items
Literally never. They'd be better off making a Single Player game at that point.
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>>168723454
d2 came out when everybody white already had interwebs
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>>168723997
>I don't see the point of SSF
this game was 10x harder three years ago. it's basically a joke now, so veteran players are resorting to SSF HC for a challenge
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>>168723997
>I don't see the point of SSF
You don't understand the point of achieving success on your own instead of relying on others, that's okay bub, don't dwell on it for too long
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>>168724334
Mashing your face against an RNG wall and solely running "current Meta build" solely to get that stuff to make your "ultimate SSF planned build" isn't achieving success. It's just getting lucky.
>Div Cards
Random chance with drop rates worse than the item you want.
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>>168724334
Dude fuck that, if the game was fair i would try but it isn't.

I could drop 2k fuses to get a 6 link and i have a serious chance of not getting it and getting that many is a pain

>B-but master crafting
its still would take a shiton of time to get that much and having an extra support gem makes a massive difference

i could play day after day and never find a single upgrade when all it would take by trading is a couple of chaos

At the very least they should remove the RNG from fuses and jewels and let the content be the challenge not the fucking artificial RNG barriers
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>>168724623
that kind of the point

maybe you wont get a 6l at all

maybe you wont ever be able to 6link anything

maybe rng will never give what you need

so how far can you progress like that? thats why people will play it
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>>168724553
>It's all RNG so there's no element of skill involved
You're only right to an extent, but that's shooting your argument in the foot because there's even *less* skill involved when you can deterministically acquire pre-linked, pre-crafted gear. Ever heard of the saying "restriction breeds creativity"? Any chump can copypaste a build and succeed, perhaps even to the point of killing Shaper in the meta where holding right click, popping Vinktar and facetanking is all the "skill" you need, but it takes knowledge and craftiness to get an edge over others when there's no shortcuts available

Also, "meta" builds are "meta" because they rely on meta uniques, those are not an option in SSF
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>>168724820
So how much up until people get fed up with the flaws of the game?

I can literally play day after day and not get the minimal gear required to do the fucking build or even finish merc

My ability has literally no saying whatsoever on the outcome

Hardcore makes sense SSF without special rules does not
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>>168725035
>I can literally play day after day and not get the minimal gear required to do the fucking build or even finish merc
You get a 4L from A1M quest rewards, what's your excuse? do you need a 6L to run Dried Lake? smdh
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>>168725035

if youve been playing for a while you know that this game aint that "unfair", but how easy its gotten just makes us lazy

if you manage to get a half usable build going to grind yellow maps, you will most assuredly get some decent uniques to build something that can take you to endgame
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>>168725035
You do the same thing as you do in HC

Run Dried lake over and over again.
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>>168725251
No you can't thats bullshit i think i've seen 3 good uniques in all my days of playing this game

Its factually impossible and then theres no full re-spec

You want people to play flame totems and then if they are lucky they get to do something different around hte time they meet the shaper after 99% of the content is done

>>168725316
But in HC thats ok cause you don't want to die and then theres the challenge once you leave to do the rippy content. Whats the point of SSF? none really

The game is balanced around trading so long thast the case SSF is doomed to be a mode for masochists and people who compete in the ladder
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>>168725658
Stop pretending you understand anything about the game, just because you need the crutch of buying gear to get past a4c doesn't mean everyone does, there's more than just a handful of builds that can do well on SSF gear
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>>168725658

>3 good uniques

we may have a different idea of what a good unique is. i mean uniques that you can build around and give you a build. maybe you mean shit like shavs? dunno.

Ive only 7 stash tabs and i always end a league with all of them filled to the brim with good uniques that either never sold or uniques i was saving to use myself

i really can see that being useful SSF
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>>168725948
Stop insulting me and typing non arguments

You omitted literally everything i wrote

There are cheap builds yes but to play a league to do one of those knowing you won't get anything better out of all the grind and having to endure ALL the RNG which is essentially what constitutes the challenge in that mode its a waste. The fun of the game is coming up with unique builds that play differently . dont see the point of SSF with the same ruleset and drop rates.

All you'd have to do is to make it separately for the entire duration to increase rates

>>168726037
You know what i meant don't play dumb
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>>168726298
>You know what i meant don't play dumb

i dont

i also vendor dozens of shit like iron commander and whispering ice each league because you always drop them faster than they sell once you farm maps, and those are build-enabling items as well

would those be optimal build when on ssf? no

but imo thats the point of taking the challenge. people already proved you can kill shaper in 7 seconds, so who cares you wont have a 5m dps double dippin build? the interesting thing about the game in ssf is seeing how far you get with what you can get
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>>168724246

I'm eastern european. Hell, the only way to buy Diablo 2 when it first came out was a pirated version. Which kinda defeats what piracy means nowadays. But then again, it was eastern Europe.
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>>168726638
Its not just that. I can get all those crappy uniques and sell them 1-2 chaos, i can get a mid tier unique and get 10-30 chaos out of it, that cuts the grind massively

Finally i can trade all that i translated into currency for the item i want that i have barely any chance of getting it enabling my build and allowing to play the build i envisioned

you can't ever do that in SSF

and now you will argue you can do those shitty cheap builds that everyone is going to run and you are right but thats boring as shit and defeats the fun of the game which is coming up with something putting it together and clearing the content with it.

SSF will have a meta everyone will end up following cause the game by design is too restrictive thanks to the RNG

I hope things change with 3.0 cause the biggest problem this game has always had is the progression
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>>168726298
>The fun of the game is coming up with unique builds that play differently
I would argue that the fun comes in overcoming challenges, there's no challenges to overcome if you buy gear and challenges from other players to trivialize content

How is a generic build with a 5L and 6k life less "unique" than the same build with a 6L, another 30% more damage multiplier and 8k life because you can buy a Kaom's? A build that is the result of adaptation to the gear you find is always going to be more unique that a build that you copypasted to the letter from a streamer

>dont see the point of SSF with the same ruleset and drop rates
Because you're a spoiled babby who never learned to play the game and always relied on trading, you see challenge solving as an obstacle rather than the goal itself
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>>168727073
>you can't ever do that in SSF

thats the point

>defeats the fun of the game

fun is a buzzword. what you mean is that ssf's restrictions wont you do the builds you want do do. and thats fine, just dont play ssf. for us that are playing ssf, it means we accept and embrace the rng restrictions just because we want to see where that takes us

>SSF will have a meta everyone will end up following cause the game by design is too restrictive thanks to the RNG

we'll see. but since many of us suspect rng is secretly seeded differently for each char created, i doubt there will be an universal ssf meta. even if there was no seed, if rng is truly random, an universal meta would be unfeasible
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>>168727420
Not my fault that theres no way of getting items other than trading because the game is centered around trading and nothing but trading

No i didn't. i never traded up until the trade system was added

why not just make all SSF drops account bound so that it doesn't ruin standard economy or other leagues economies , to make them all untradeable ? That would enable them to up the rates
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kill yourself, retard
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>>168727620
>n universal meta would be unfeasible
would not*
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>>168727732
what do you mean by this
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>>168727631
Because the entire point is not to enable a babby easy mode you fucking retard. Jesus Christ, just because you're unable to comprehend that some players seek the very challenge you desperately try to avoid doesn't mean it invalidates the purpose of SSF. What's next, why play hardcore since the game is centered around being a shitter suiciding against boss 6 times in a row according to your point of view?
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>>168727840

end your life cycle prematurely by your own will and volition
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>>168727856
Dude theres no challenge in grinding extra time to do a cookie cutter poorfag build cause the game is centered around trading.

The entire league is going to be decided exclusively by the RNG the top of the ladder will get
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>rng slotmachine is a challenge

This is why videogames are turning to shit.
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kill yourself
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>>168728058
you can say there is no challenge on anything in PoE if that makes you feel better

but restrictions do force you utilize whatever limited resources you get in a different way, than when you can simply farm currency and buy anything. that is what makes ssf interesting

>>168728157
videogames turn to shit because of ezmode faggots who want everything to be quick, easy and effortless
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>>168728058
>theres no challenge
There is a challenge since you cannot bypass difficulty by trading. That's all trading is, a shortcut to bypass those difficulty bumps that are too annoying for a shitter like you. You CANNOT buy boss kills. You CANNOT pay someone to kill Izaro for you. You CANNOT stay in dried lake forever like a shitter, then jump into your favorite maps you bought from others. You CANNOT rely on your favorite streamer fotm CI VP build to ignore game mechanics. You CANNOT ignore atlas natural progression. You CANNOT rotate master missions and spend your time at the portal while your Zana racks up experience. Everything you get, you have to EARN it.

Once again, the existence of RNG doesn't mean that no amount of skill or knowledge is relevant. There is one mode where it is LESS relevant, and it's the mode where you have mechanics to smoothe out RNG. Decision making becomes less relevant when decisions are made for you and you merely have to follow a recipe with zero meaningful thinking.
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>>168728157
>Mathil said poison BF is super OP so I'll just buy a Scourge and copypaste his build haha I'm such a good player

versus

>What strategy, build do I use in order to kill Chimera and earn my own Scourge?

Wonder which one requires more skill because apparently they on the same level of randomness.
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chance haste's increased movement, cast and attack speed to more.

haste = fixed.
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>>168728625
No the developers said the game is designed around trading that means its a legitimate part of the game its not bypassing and thats the problem with SSF having the exact same rules

>>168728925
O yes

>Mathil has cool build
>Lets copy it

>Mathil has a cool SSF build
>lets copy it
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>>168729061
can't chance a skill gem
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>>168729075
devs also say softcore is a legit part of the game

and buying support packs

etc

doesnt mean you have to debase yourself and do those things
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>tfw you're probably the only guy here who's been playing a SSF viable build all along since forever
Don't need no double dippin memery to get to endgame
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>>168729148
you know what i meant now stop bullying me or i'll knock my piss bottles over
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really no one is forcing you eveshitters to play SSF, but you do need to leave this gen if you do
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>>168729075
>No the developers said the game is designed around trading that means its a legitimate part of the game
No one argued otherwise. You're a dense motherfucker. Of course the game is not designed to be a masochistic grindfest with zero player interaction, doesn't mean trading doesn't trivialize the game. When you play with a penta aura triple cursing supportcuck, do you still feel challenged? Do you still feel you're playing the game the "way it was designed" or simply being a cheesy fuck willfully avoiding challenge? The rules are the same, but the tools to overcome challenges are not. You stupid fuck.

>Mathil has a cool SSF build
How are you going to copy a SSF build down to the gear? Doesn't it seem cheap to you to have a poison-enabling weapon you didn't earn from killing a poison immune boss?
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reminder that once 2.6 begins you must be playing SSF HC in order to post in poeg

shitbirds and HC players will not be allowed
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it's happening my friends, only 2 left

still need splinters from chay
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>>168729745
softcorepro here
I will not partake in SSF faggotry and will keep on posting here
cope with it
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>>168729823
you will not be allowed to

reconsider your contrarian worldview
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XBONE players will be ironically higher on the casual pole than retards who buy gear and pat themselves on the back while doing so

imagine being lesser than a console casual
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didn't chris say xbone is getting an ah like system?
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>>168730271
no
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>>168729942
And how do you plan on stopping me?
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>>168729229
my bad
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>>168730271
yesh, chinkPoE too
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>>168729794
You basically got this. just play some atlas maps. Either you find chayula or you blow the rest of your resources on breach upgrades. ez.
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>>168729716
You are arguing that trading makes the game babymode when the intended way of playing the way the game is balanced is around players trading and not getting the items by themselves

why can't they just up the rates of everything and make the items account bound?
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as much as you cling to your "intended way of playing", that ssf is now officially endorsed by GGG means that the currently ezmode state of the "intended way to play" PoE has been acknowledged and they've decided to throw a bone to people who realize this

keep being birdcore tradeshitter if you want, but now even GGG is indirectly calling you out on it.

and remember. poeg is for SSFHC players only. you can't post here if you arent SSFHC next league
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kill yourself, retard
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>>168731013
>You are arguing that trading makes the game babymode
Because it does. Just because the game technically allows you to do something doesn't mean you should jump on the opportunity if it lessens difficulty. Cast on Death build exist, does this mean you should play softcore?

This is a matter of personal perspective and we all draw the line somewhere, if you don't then you're simply actively trying to avoid challenge, which sounds kinda counterintuitive and makes me think you'd enjoy something like D3 better, something with flashy dps numbers popping and "rewarding" you by showering you with infinite power and loot.

>why can't they just up the rates of everything and make the items account bound?
It's not a matter of can or can't, still comically missing the point of SSF which is to enforce a ruleset for players who actively seek the challenge of playing solo
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>game is meant to be played in parties
>game is meant to be played with trading
>game is meant to be played SSFHC

What else? Do I have to stand on my head using only 2 toes on my left foot to play?
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>>168731789

wait until we get a roguelike mode with no towns or vendors and cursed items/potions
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>>168731789
You play however or whatever you want, nerd. Don't argue that there's no point to SSF, or that there's no challenge to it because you have to grind instead of cheating, that's just logically undefendable. Playing SSF is more challenging than playing with trading enable, the same way playing hardcore is more challenging than playing softcore. The strategies and tools available cannot be the same, so the challenge level is cannot be the same, despite the "rules" being the exact everywhere.
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>>168731732
IF they are legitimating it why make it not shit?
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you people are cartoonishly stupid
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>>168732168
>It's shit because I don't like it
Not an argument you retard, you've already displayed your clinical ability to understand why some players seek challenge, if you've nothing left to say except repeating your shitter mantra then nys yourself
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>>168732108
I want that
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>>168732381
Its shit because all it does is to increase the time required to do the exact same exponentially and makes the entire playthrough reliant on RNG balanced around thousands of people trading and interacting with each other
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>>168732654
>time required to do the exact same
To me the entire point of playing self-found is to NOT do the same. You take a build that starts well and can be upgraded along the way, not something that you need to trade for very specific items and based around said items-interaction.

To me this is what self-found is about, and its fun. Shit, I already play self-found for the most part when friends aren't online. I don;t give a fuck about the top expensive items since I am not going to do infinite strand just to find tradable things.
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>>168732654
>Its shit because all it does is to increase the time required to do the exact same exponentially
That's factually wrong as I've argued already and you've provided zero rebuttal so far. If your build is too shit to kill Uber Izaro SSF, then you don't get your 7 and 8th ascendancy points. If your build is too shit to kill Uber Izaro in trading league, you simply pay someone else 5c like the shitter you are. No amount of grinding is going to make up for your build shortcomings if you're too stupid or inexperienced to make it work with your own skill.
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>>168732881
Nono i do the exact same instead of blade flurry flame totems

all it does is to increase the time required if god wants you to get that item you need

>>168732965
Rebutal for what? A meta will surface and everyone is just going to roll with that. All you are doing is limiting hte viable builds and make everything reliant on RNG balanced around people trading

Up the rates and make items account bound and there youll have a legitimate league
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>>168732376
delete this
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>>168733349
>A meta will surface and everyone is just going to roll with that.
Ah yeah, the meta of unique builds relying on self-found rares. Fucking retard. You have ZERO argument.

>All you are doing is limiting hte viable builds
What you're doing is limiting the title of "viable" to legitimate viable builds that don't rely on a broken mechanic or 50 ex worth of traded gear to succeed.

>Up the rates and make items account bound and there youll have a legitimate league
Yeah a legitimate shitter league. The entire point of the league is to weed out shitters like you.
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Don't we have this same autismal discussion every thread? Getting pretty tiresome
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refer to this chart to visualize your level of brain power
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Fastest and safest way to grind exp at 90+?
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Shaper's Realm
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>>168733712
You are the one who said things owuld be different and peole would get craetive and its a lie that you now confirm

What are you talking about? The less the player has to work with the more itll be forced into the broken shit

No the entire point of the league is to extend the races for the ladder so that the faggost who have dedicated parties can't participate

I will never understand what goes in their heads

>People quit over the difficulty and totally not because the broken disjointed progression that doesn't make sense
>Where you are supposed not to upgrade gear or craft ever cause its way cheaper to buy one that dropped to some other dude
>This results in the devs not knowing who is going to have what at what stage which results in the everything is a cakewalk up until the very end game
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not posting on /poeg/ and running maps with <20 secs inbetween
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>>168733903
We have one really autistic poster that comes up with a really dumb position and argues it for months, before switching to another dumb position and repeating the cycle.
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>>168734357
>You are the one who said things owuld be different and peole would get craetive and its a lie that you now confirm
How does anything I said contradict this? A build adapted to the drops you find and a build independent from top end uniques you didn't earn (e.g. The Scourge) is by definition more creative. One is born out of your game knowledge and shaped by your drops, the others is copypasted from a streamer.

Restriction breeds creativity you stupid fuck. How distinguishable is a HoWaA build from the next? Not very much.

>What are you talking about? The less the player has to work with the more itll be forced into the broken shit
There won't be any "broken" shit in SSF since what is perceived as broken currently relies on an entire playerbase supporting it (CI meta). If you're on your own, you can't break the game and it makes beating it much more meaningful.

The rest of your post is incoherent rambling, do you have a point?
It's actually quite amazing how you're unable to understand why people would want to play SSF and complain the game is too easy with trading enabled in the same sentence.
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I'll restrict and breed YOU you dumb sexy piece of ass
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>>168735015
No it doesn't. Anyone can run flame totems with any gear. Having more things available breeds creativity

Getting high CI by yourself is stupidly easy with the essence, getting high health rolls in the other hand is super hard

Of course i do

They have the chance to create a meaningful feature and they throw it away for no reason
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>>168735265
>Anyone can run flame totems with any gear.
Flame Totem hasn't been good in 5 leagues, can you at least pretend you're not a massive shitter who knows nothing about the game? No one is going to run that garbage, SSF or not. And anyone can stay in Dried Lake forever. That's a viable strategy in trading league because you can farm currency then buy your way into end game, you can't do that in SSF so at some point you'll have to learn to make a decent a build.

The fact that wealth generation cannot come from other players means that you cannot make boneheaded build decisions, not that your build options are limited. At some point you have enough power to beat everything in the game provided you built intelligently, and further upgrades only come in the form of marginal upgrades. Getting +100 es because you bought a new ring is not a sign of creativity you stupid fuck. You simply made a poe.trade search with filters of numbers higher than what you have equipped currently. Creative. As. Fuck.

>Getting high CI by yourself is stupidly easy with the essence, getting high health rolls in the other hand is super hard
That's kinda the point. It would take a lot of chaos orbs, a lot of essences, a lot of grinding to make CI viable SSF. Players racing to level 100 or a high map pool will probably not switch to CI until the late 90s, if ever. Playing a life build makes you inherently weaker to one-shots so you have to actually start thinking about your defenses and playstyle instead of just staking 15k ES and pretending you're a good player. This is an example of restriction breeding creativity your tiny bird brain is unable to comprehend.

>They have the chance to create a meaningful feature
It's a meaningful feature because it caters to hardcore players who don't like cheating and getting carried like you.
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quad tab for maps

quality of life improved
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>>168733930
>I don't know how this meme works but I'm just going to post it
ok dude
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>>168736369
t. softcore trading baby
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>>168736443
cuck
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>>168735978
Kek

So you admitted

>Players are going to go cookie cutter poorfag

>CI will be the choice from all since its way easier to get ES than life on gear

>Instead of making something truly different its just a seprate ladder to give a chance to those who dont have a dedicated party
>It will fail hardcordly beyond the use it was given and petitions to up the rates will pop but won't be heard cause for some reason GGG has to always go with the most bizarre design decision
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yfw 3.0.0 brings implicit life roll on all armor and evasion gear
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>tfw tradeshitters so buttmad everybody will know they are afraid of the extra challenge imposed by ssf that they scramble to try and convince people trading and no trading is really the same thing
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>>168735885
heh
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>>168737035
>>Players are going to go cookie cutter poorfag
What does that mean? You describe 90% of the builds in the game, the 10% left is the meta enabled by trading. Most builds are cheap, doesn't mean they're cookie cutter, that's where you find the most variety actually. You're not very good at this logical reasoning thing.

>CI will be the choice from all since its way easier to get ES than life on gear
That's the opposite of what I said, can you read? Life will be the choice for most. CI is an investment that is utterly worthless unless you have a lot of currency already. It's meta in a trading league, it cannot be meta in a SSF league. Your ignorance of game mechanics is showing again.

>>Instead of making something truly different its just a seprate ladder to give a chance to those who dont have a dedicated party
Players will come up with a lot of varied different builds. In a trading league everyone copies the top 1%, and you end up with 500 HoWaA or BF builds. ZO Occultists and CI+VP builds, that's 95% of CI builds. It's boring and stale and the exact opposite of creativity since you follow one predetermined optimal path.

>>It will fail hardcordly
Irrelevant, stop trying to shift the argument, you're just an ignorant shitter (DUDE PEOPLE IN SSF MUST ALL PLAY FLAME TOTEM LMAO) who has no clue what he's talking about.
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i dont give a shit about ssf, if youre neet and are having fun grinding your brain out instead of buying what you need in 1 minute so be it
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I wonder (((who))) really so afraid of people ditching the trade meta?

(((Who))) benefits from trade the most?

(((Who))) fears the end of RMT and BOTs?
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>>168737969
literally the same argument used in sc vs hc, amusingly enough

"i don't give a shit if you play hardcore, if youre need and are having fun losing your character to a death instead of just suiciding with a cast on death + portal build because it's fun so be it"
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back to /pol/, racecuck.
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>>168737227
esfag corpses would litter the streets
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>>168738104

i like trading
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>>168738183
all of 4chan is a nazi website

WSJ and Huffpo said so, so it must be true.
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>>168738536
ok, cuck
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Normal people
>i dont like the concept of ssf so i wont play it

Aspie
>WHY ARE YOU HAVING FUN PLAYING SSF REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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So what is everyone planning on playing in 2.6 as of right now? I'm leaning towards freezing pulse inquisitor.
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>>168738729
Aspie
>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU PLAYING SSF LITERALLY GET THE FUCK OUT STOP PLAYING THE GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ftfy
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I would play SSF if uniques weren't required for some builds because they have unique modifiers that can't be crafted on rares.
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>>168738797
Glacial Hammer with Lethargy jewel and melee splash so every enemy hit creates their own AOE overlap cold damage instance

100% conversion from phys to cold, then from cold to fire

or something like that
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>>168738797
will begin as a BF poison miner

will change build depending on what the ssf rng gods give me
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>>168738843
It's fine for everyone to play whatever they want and whatever they enjoy but it takes some serious level of denial to call SSF life builds less creative than copypasted CI builds

Here's the breakdown for people who are new:
Life builds: played by literally every class
CI builds: played by ranger and 3 or 4 ES-based classes

Sooooooooo much creativity, so many possibilities. Dude, my CI Occultist is totally not the same as your CI Occultist, the es rings are different!
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wow what the fuck I still haven't found a single relic
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>>168738797
light warp totem trickster
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>>168738797
ball lightning trap assassin
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>>168739063
who the fuck are you talking to?
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>>168738919
Divination cards and chance orbs are semi-deterministic ways of getting uniques in SSF, along with pure luck. The fundamental difference is you cannot get powerful uniques you didn't earn such as those that are gated behind specific bosses. It's a little silly to see everyone run with a Dying Sun when they never got past t12.
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>>168739180
lol
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>>168738797
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>planning a build before patch notes
retards
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>>168729794

Just do atlas bonus objectives and corrupted jewels. Easy-peasy.
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I got 425 goy points

No need for tabs so what do I buy
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>>168738797
blight/abyssal cry or ed/contagion, they both have nearly the exact same skill tree
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>>168740803
some dignity
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>>168740470
i'm trying. the hardest part of these challenges is getting someone to respond to a trade. great system ggg
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>>168740468
no heavy balance changes in 2.6 retard.
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I beat cruel with a cyclone duelist but I'm pretty sure I've fucked it all up as my first character as merciless isn't going well.

So what's a really fun build?
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>>168741349
you don't need heavy balance changes to change how a build feels
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>>168741709
>So what's a really fun build?
you've tried ONE skill so far

now pick another among the list of 200 active gems or whatever

don't wait for others to tell you what to play
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So, since Starforges are way more in standard than breach, should I stock up on them or will the incoming implicit change make existing ones less expensive? There's no way to update it to the new implicit, is there?
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g*d does exist
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>>168742405
no one plays std
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>>168742583
I know
But I kind of want a HH
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>>168742405
what implicit change?
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>>168742489
it's a dark god then, because this universe is shit
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>>168742780
Isn't that one of the base types that's changing from % accuracy to flat accuracy? Or am I confusing it with something else.
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>>168741239

Indeed.
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>>168742874
Think we've only seen a one-hand sword. 2-hand swords might get changed as well, since they didn't limit implicit changes to one handers in the announcement.

>buffs and modifications to weapon implicit modifiers
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>>168742837
not for this shitcrow it's not, not today
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>>168742489

Fuck you.
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>>168742874
implicit changes would be retroactive

you idiot

you think the changes to shield block chances created legacy shields all over the board or something?

regardless, the implicit on starforge is useless
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I only play poe to get girls
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>>168743116
Guess so, although they have created new base types in the past, drop disabled the old ones, and moved the uniques over (see: blackgleam)
>>
Name one thing Cleave does better than Lacerate

Name one thing Ground Slam does better than Earthquake
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFb9S32AoY
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>>168698534
imthem
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>>168743658
wtf is this weeb shit
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>>168743621

>Name one thing Cleave does better than Lacerate

bleed builds


>Name one thing Ground Slam does better than Earthquake

permastun builds


Consider yourself completely dominated by my superior intellect.
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>>168743852
pussy
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>>168743889
>bleed builds
In which Cleave would be outperformed by Puncture, so it's a design fail

>permastun builds
Trash doesn't need to be permastunned and there are stronger single target skills so it's again a design fail
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>>168743658
https://youtu.be/SOX1BWloeJw
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>>168744161
if you think puncture competes with EQ because it surpasses cleave in a bleed build you're full blown crow
>>
What's the best Rive build?
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poeg help a retarded noob here, playing BV pathfinder, and I can't decide whether I want to get the ascendancy that gives immunity to bleed and crit flask charges, or the ascendancy that gives immunity to stat effects and more elemental dps.
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>>168744552
good builds â„¢
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>>168744552
the one you make yourself
flip off
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>>168744161
cleave has a higher damage multiplier than puncture, and you can inflict bleed by many other means

and whether or not stun is worth it, doesnt change the fact ground slam is mean to stun shit
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>>168743852
this is weeb territory
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>>168744721
master surgeon is not immunity to bleed, it removes bleed on flask use, subtle but important nuance

either is fine, surgeon isn't that good anymore unless you can run a chalice
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>>168744721
Master surgeon most likely
Even after nerfs it's still okay
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if you can pay to add an unique to the game

can you pay to remove an unique from the game?
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no because that would negatively impact players who rely on said unique
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new uniques also negatively impact players who rely on certain unique not existing
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no because that would not compensate the party that paid for the inclusion of a unique item that was agreed upon by qqq
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deleting a unique from your game is as simple as editing a line in your loot FILTER

fucking moron
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but i dont want anyone else to have it either
>>
who here /freezingpulse/ again
first snow actually looks like a good fucking theshold jewel that might make FP not shit and i fucking love fp
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Does trap not double dip into an ingite anymore? 5 ignites w/ free prolif bow on inquisitor burning arrow anyone?
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depends on how badly they ruin aoe skills
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i hate how on 4chan you can never tell who's responding to who

reddit's post system is so much better
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>>168746569
it does

traps are just not very popular for the xboxers who post in this gen, since you cant just mindlessly spam them
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4chin is the best
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anime
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You can easily tell who's replying to who, just read the posts and do it by context
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Does putting quality on items increase its chance to be unique from Chance Orbs?
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>changes to how area of effect modifiers are handled,
hope your build isn't AoE senpai
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>>168747240
Use your common sense.
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>changes to how area of effect modifiers are handled,
That will probably cut down on double dipping a lot because of conc effect, but it's not like any build that doesn't double dip is automatically shit
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good job freeze pulse is a projectile not affected by aoe then gaylord
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>>168747349

I play a free to play game for hours everyday, I dont fucking have any
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I think he is using common sense, since quality increases the chances of linking - she assumed quality applies an effect to chance orb.
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I haven't played in a long time, people are saying armor is good now? What did they change? Last time it was you could only mitigate 1/10th of your listed armor at most - and it obviously didn't affect elemental hits only physical/
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>she
why do you think this retard is a she ???
>>
how do you sustain FP's mana cost
>>
>>168747753
they tricked you
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>>168747661

nope

the tooltip of quality shit explains what it adds, socket or link chance
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just use clarity and get some mana regen on the tree

if u are truly retarded use a mana flask as well
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the longer you play in one session, the better your drop rates are
i can confirm this,
it's fact
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actually i seem to get better drops after not playing for a week or so

so all u have to do is miss out a week for a guranteed exalt
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>still no keystone that lets armour effect elemental damage
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tfw too intelligent to respond to too stupid posters
>>
>>168749549
>>168749239
gamblers fallacy
>>
>>168749549
>>168749732
stop this. give me and this other smart anon our you's
>>
Updated models when. Witch is supposed to be a teenager yea? she looks like shes 45
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she looks 15 you stupid virgin
>>
shes actually 60,000 years old, thats why she looks like a little girl
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>>168751170

Why do you want her to be 15 ya fuckin pedo
>>
>>168753498
>wanting hags
>anytime
>anywhere

Don't be a shitcrow and eat a container of chaos bleach.
>>
>>168753687

Because clearly theres no middle ground between pedo and old hag
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>>168753909
7-10 = attractive
11+ = old hag
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>>168754118
this is subjectively correct
>>
reminder to teach your daughters how to use pepper spray safely
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>this is what the average female poe player looks like
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>>168756398
>having children
cuck
>>
>>168756445
that's not too bad considering
>>
but mors is the biggest woman in poe history and she has a beard
>>
OI OI OI GDAY CUNTS YA M8 ZIGGYD ERE
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>>168756618
considering what
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>>168757232
what you and i look like
>>
the penis
>>
shiggyd what are you going to play for leftover scraps league
here have 45034 bits
>>
uber is streaming
did anon summon him
>>
D
>>
A
>>
>people start making ziggyd jokes suddenly
>check if he's online

why do you have to be cunts
>>
N
>>
D
>>
N
>>
D
>>
A
>>
D
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::stopshitpost::
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>DANDNDAD
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mods help pls
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mods cant help you in this cesspool, gaylord
>>
any chance that flicker strike is viable for starting hcssf in 2.6? or should i just pussy out and roll a safe/reliable build and have fun later?
>>
>>168761150
No. Flicker is terrible for bossing.
Ask again when you got a better idea.
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>>168761330
but it's fun. and you have a backup for single target, like warchief or frenzy even
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>fllicker strike
>first build on hc on ssf
lol enjoy dying to volatile before u farm anything for ure next char
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volatiles dont do shit until red maps or badly rolled yellows
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stfu nerd
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>2 days after BIG announcement gen is deader than GGG's ethics
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>>168742489
Finally found her last week
>that one breach dropped 32 Chayula splinters
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>>168762773
> a general for a dead game is dead
>>
>>168762978
>a game i'm having fun with
>dead
uhh try again sweetie
>>
ded gaym
>>
is melee still shit

does ES>Life still
>>
>>168765639
>Melee still shit
Yes. "Melee" is still very strong tho.
>ES>Life
Yes. 50%.
>>
if you aren't going MoM hierophant for SSF HC then honestly you're frankly just really bad and probably kinda stupid too
>>
>Not just going Earthquake Juggernaut and being unstoppable in lower-tier maps as you farm up everything you need for any other character
>Plus, all that Uber Lab loot
>>
>>168762773
In glad.
The announcement brought back some of the worst posters I've ever seen in the entire history of /poeg/.
>>
>all of these fucking brain dead morons playing meta-builds that everyone has played three times over already
>no one thinking of new builds or even making use of the new revealed jewels

Granted, we still don't have full patch notes, but come the fuck on, children.
You've been playing this game long enough to think of something new.
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Hiero + legacy cloak = immortal
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>>168766549
>Jewels
All the revealed ones are either trash or overly limited by their Limited to: stat.
>>
>>168766720
Considering one of them gives FP 50% inc damage and a free gem slot AND lets you give up a 20% less multiplier. That adds up to a fuckton of damage along with them saying they are buffing cold spells and nodes.
>>
>>168766553
Any reason why you're ignoring the other uniques that add % damage taken from mana?
With legacy cloak and hierophant you have 50%

Why not go further?
>>
>>168766549
I've been playing since Nemesis and I still got like 20 meta-builds to go through. If I haven't played it myself, I couldn't care less how much other people have.
>>
>>168766720
ok retard

>>168766875
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think that you'll find that 15 of those have been nerfed out of the meta by now.
>>
fp jewel is good
i wouldn't have to swap gems for single target damage with it
>>
>>168766865
They're not buffing cold spells and nodes tho.
They're buffing Cold Nodes and general Ele nodes in the Ranger area.
Other than that, I suppose the Freeze Pulse one is very strong. The only other strong one is the Burning Arrow one, 2 huge Ignites on an enemy is pretty strong.
But Jewel opportunity cost is a tricky thing to manage.
>>
>>168767046
Not tricky to manage now that stats no longer need to be allocated.
Are you paying attention?
>>
>>168766993
Don't worry, I'm well aware of the meta. It's larger than the top 3 broken builds.
>>
giving up two jewel sockets to not have a less damage multiplier is fine with me bro
>>
ok retard
>>
Bring back shotgun
>>
>>168767406
bhis
>>
This^

Bringing back shotgun would be a great way to balance out a removal of double dipping while also increasing the power of all skills across the board to compensate for enemy powercreep driven by double dipping
>>
shotgun can stay dead
next they can kill overlapping aoe damage
>>
I bet you're okay with double dipping being broken though

Ducking loser
>>
after they make all damage predictable they can actually balance damage numbers
>>
what is the easiest most brain dead build in the game which is also he strongest build there is where I literally cannot go wrong?
>>
Can't go wrong with playing a better game.
>>
>>168767924
name one 1 (one) game better than PoE

it should be an ARPG as well
>>
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>>168768475
dark souls 2
>>
>>168768551
>dark souls

>good
>>
Ys The Oath in Felghana
>>
dark souls is better than a diablo clone
>>
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Diablo 3 sold 30+ milion copies
Poe had 1 million f2p players XDDD
>>
Is karv /our guy/??
>>
>>168768742
you've convinced me. i'm going back to d3. necromancer should be hella sweet.
>>
Literally who?
>>
d3 is a pile of shit
>>
>>168767867
Right now, HoWaA Raider with VP CI GR PB EE and US
>>
>>168768980

>howaa with PB and EE
>taking US

found the inexperienced played
>>
just took a massive Diablo 3 lads
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poeurl.com/3l5

rate my MoM hiero crit poison bladefall build, poeg! (it's for SSF HC)
>>
>Another double dipping, CI/LL league
Just end this shit
>>
Just the description was dumb enough to remind me that I need to start filling threads with shitty trees without a url shortener.
>>
>>168769135
>force shaper instead of fagns of viper and more life/mana

shit
>>
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Why the fuck so many people don't go for alchemist wheel when they are close

Most broken nodes on tree
>>
>>168769539
shitters underrate flasks and prefer MOAR DAMAGE
>>
>>168769539
it's an SSF build noobtard, alchemist is only strong if you have OP unique flasks
>>
I wanna double dip but also have max block on next league what should I play?
>>
>>168769895
gladiator

bleed double dip
>>
>>168769895

>i want to be a little bitch faggot but also not get aids

hmmmmmm
>>
>>168769135
>poison bladefall
>no double dipping
>no dot/chaos/poison nodes
>no chaos+physical dual nodes

so you're just gonna slap a poison support on your bladefall and say it's a poison build? it's shit.
>>
>Remove CI
>Int gear is now 1/3rd ES, Armor, Evasion

y/y
>>
the people that play poe are even worse than the game
>>
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thats like saying people who smoke crack are worse than the drug

or that people who kill jews are worse than the zyklon
>>
>>168769979
What double dips in a gladiator bleed build? I might be wrong, but as far as I know it has to be "global" physical damage like Master of Force/Path of Warrior and melee physical or physical with 1h/shields etc. do not double dip.
>>
Thinking of playing again when the Legacy league pop open. Seem good timing to get back into the swing of things before the new acts.

I want to try a marauder for once, beside earthquake what was the other decent melee skill gem? Also yes I know I'm gimping myself by going melee, I'm just playing to have fun yo.
>>
>>168772361
The other decent Melee Skill was Blade Flurry, which is terrible if you plan to make a Juggernaut.
>>
guys i just woke up
>>
As a brand new player looking to get into this game, who's also never played Diablo either, should I wait for the upcoming expansion, or hop right into the game?
>>
>>168772613
Wait for the upcoming expansion.
It's very jarring to log on one day and realize there's no more (insert League Mechanic here) soon after starting, in this case, Breaches.
Which is ending in like a week.
So just wait a bit for the new League, Legacy, to join up.
>>
>>168772361
FUN IS A BUZZWORD ITS NOT REAL

>>168772613
new league is in 13 days

you can start playing right now but you should really hop on the new league once it starts
>>
>>168772479
Wasn't there like an Ancestral something that was decent?
>>
>>168772718
>>168772781
Is this an online multiplayer game, or a singeplayer online game? It's not one of those types of games where you'd benefit greatly from being in a guild or something is it?
>>
reminder that fun is real and if you can't experience it, it's because you have brain damage caused by chronic depression
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>>168772853
Ancestral Warchief and it got the Nerf Bat pretty fierce. It's still good, but it was comically potent beforehand.
More of a supplement rather than a main skill.
>>168772860
It's multiplayer online, but for most content, it's better to play solo unless you're with close friends who will stick it out.
>>
poe is the best played with a support, but unless you have a dedicated support player that you know and isn't shit you might as well play solo
>>
>>168772963
I have chronic depression and still experience fun.
Explain.
>>
Yer brain hasn't shrunk enough yet
>>
dumb poetards
>>
not all poptarts are dumb
it's just the hardcucks, catshitter, and SSF autists
>>
ummmm new thread?
>>
I wish karv was my bf
>>
>>168772963

things that are real exist in every language

"fun" literally doesnt exist in most languages

its a made up thing viral markets tricked you into believing existed for hundreds of years

>>168773043
you are mentally ill. of course you think fictional constructs are real
>>
>>168772965
Oh, that is a shame about Warchief then. I want to play a melee character at least once in my life but it seem all of the skills are ass for the most part even when ignoring melee being awful in general by default. I'm thinking of either going earthquake and just putting up with making fast/decent enough or Blade Flurry which seem even slower though I can see the potential of it.

Anyone have any opinions between to two? I'm thinking of just going earthquake just so I can use a giant hammer which suits marauder better imo.
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*doesn't make a new thread*
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you can play cyclone
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is scorching ray dogshit
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dead general dead game
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>>168773706
I like that one where she has a penis
>>
>>168773676
People still play spin to win? I guess the ability to move and attack the same time is nice though.
>>
SR takes a lot of specialization to be good as a main skill
better to use it as a secondary, like as a damage booster for RF or a WI CWC with cold to fire conversion.
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that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die
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>tfw I just got 2nd red dream from chayula breach in map
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>>168774670
>>
>>168772613
git gud
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