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>Failed to roll through the 270-degree FUGS swing:
>>168632926

>1.10 patch notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261608645322016043

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>168680701
If you hit a guy during their attack animation, you'll deal bonus damage to them. It's indicated by a chunky-sounding thunk sound, as opposed to the regular hit sound.
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>tfw no smokey fire weapon buff i can insert onto my FUGS

maybe raime's and fume ss will come back in dlc 2
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show me pontiff
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>>168680626
>post fashion
'Kay.
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>>168680941
dumb hat

it okay tho. 4.75/10
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>tfw Dark Souls 3 will enver have it's own Chalice Dungeon
It would make the game so much better
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>>168680987
>not liking the classic witch/wizard hat
Poor taste in magical fashion desu.
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>>168681006
i don't know about "better", just gives us more shit to do when we're bored
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>>168681006
Whats so good about chalice dungeons? Seems like they would become repetitive pretty quickly.
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>>168681116
They are, but enemy type and placement is completely different every time.

It's the same as going through the main game over and over, but every single enemy in the game has equalized damage/HP like NG+, and every single enemy in the game is in a completely mixed up and random place

imagine jailers, snakemen, and dogs in the same area
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>>168680941
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>>168681256
it's like going through the main game over and over if the main game had really bad level design
because it's all randomly generated instead of hand-crafted
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>>168681319
>implying the hand-crafted levels are any better
Propane Capital and Farron Keep are calling.
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>>168681256
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>>168681256
this

>>168681319
There's nothing wrong with more content. Sometimes, it's nice to just going spelunking in a dungeon and fight bosses again, like a boss rush mode
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>>168681319
It's not bad level design, it's more like bad enemy placement

Still, it's a very effective way of arbitrary extending hte life of the game through korean MMO mechanics
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>trading blows
>with a UGS
>while you dont have a UGS

Why do people do this
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>>168681410
i mean yeah if they have a magic wand to add more content, sure
but if i had the choice between from spending time on programming chalice dungeons in or just adding more content to the main game, i'd pick the latter
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does DS2 ever start improving
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>>168681383
Farron Keep is a decent level. A better example would've been Demon Ruins or Catacombs of Carthus, both of which seem like they were created of Chalice Dungeon leftovers.
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Guide to souls series

>1 for pve
>2 for invades
>3 for...?
>3 for uuuuuh

>3 for graphics
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>>168681704
Imo Majula-Sinner's Rise is the best portion of the game. Some people really like Drangleic Castle but I feel like DaS2 is waiting until you get to the 'good parts' but the good parts never come.
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>>168681537
>i dont understand how latency works

unless your weapon's recovery frames are lower in duration than the latency between you and your opponent, there is virtually no way you can avoid an attack occuring at nearly the same time
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>>168681728
1 may have the best pve but you'd still have more fun playing through the whole series rather than just repeatedly running through the first one
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>>168681728
3 is a Greatest Hits of the Series game. It lacks its own stand out features because of it.
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>>168681704
>>168681856
The DLCs are where its at
Persoanlly, I like most of the areas in the base game, not a single area in 2 is as bad as the worst areas of dark souls 1 but none of them are particularly amazing either. The DLC are among the best parts of the series.
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>>168681728
Des/DaS1/BB for great solo PvE
DaS2 for co-op and arena
DaS3 for invasions and actual pvp
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>>168681872
hyperarmour
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>>168681728

>3 for graphics
What about bosses?
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>>168681958
>not a single area in DS2 is as bad as the worst areas of DS1

Funny, I think that most of DaS2 areas are on the level or worse than the Lord Soul areas of DaS1. Lost Izalith was the only one that was truly shit and Iron Keep is roughly on par in shitty level design.
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So I'm in the middle of a SL1 run in DS1, are there any good armor builds? I think I'm just playing fashion souls with the sealer robes and hood with black leather pants and gloves.

Also is it worth it to wear the stone armor on the 4kings or should I just yolo it?
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>>168681897
>greatest hits of the souls series

wew

>>168681989
> for invasions and actual pvp
>invasions
>gank squads
>3v1
>infinite phantoms
>actual P E E V E E P E E
>one shot builds
>HYPERARMOURONWEAPONSLMAO
>nopoise
>phantom range

I could go on for days
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>>168681958
I only really didnt like the depths because I thought it was 2spooky. Blightown sucks because of the fps issues but those are really the only areas I didn't like.
I cheat and just glitch into the 4kings fight so who knows what new londo is even like.

Ds2 has a lot of just awful levels. Not to mention, like, 3 poison butt swamps.
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>>168682164
BUt you cant yolo it because in souls you dont live only once, you die and come back repeatedly.
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>>168682250
>greatest hits of the souls series
>wew
Note that I say that as being a negative thing. Greatest Hits albums aren't "real" albums, after all...
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>>168682527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbMSUQE36us
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>>168682512
New Londo is like 2 areas that are mostly wide open, it's quite short.
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In this webm, I predict my opponents attack and "parry" not fucking literally you god damn retards him with my greatclub 2HR1 into another 2HR1 cuz lmao2hit

He doesn't see my attack because it hasn't registered on his screen until he is already caught in his attack animation, whereas he then loses the trade and gets truecombo'd. Because this game is clientside, or operates similarly to it, I can initiate the trade despite his weapon being much faster than mine.
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Man, the Javelin is fun as fuck.

>killing a boss with a hurled spear

I AM A MIGHTY NORSEMAN
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>>168682512
ds2 has 0 swamps
the level where you wade through waist-high water and get slowly and very annoyingly killed to death is Amana instead
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>>168682512
>I cheat and just glitch into the 4kings fight so who knows what new londo is even like.

DELET THIS
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>>168682670
>The C**sen One
I hate this game
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>>168682936
protip: write names in capslock because the filter is case-sensitive
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>>168682767
Yes I thought to myself "gee ghost house was sure fun to die in, but you know what would be better than the 20 minutes of work that would take? The hour spent on getting the first drop juuust right untill i actually go it right then forgeting to equipt my ring and dying instantly"

Although I am missing out on darkwraiths and a good farming spot so I'll probably suck it up and drain it
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>>168683157
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>>168683254
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>>168683314
I feel this redeems it somewhat.
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>>168682747
I count black gultch, cave of the dead(?) and harvest valley as poison swamps although they arent slow mollasses lands.
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>>168683370
yeah the slow molasses is the worst part
depths/gulch/harvest valley are all poison areas though, yeah
cave of the dead is more about petrification IIRC
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what the hell happened to gwynevere
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>>168682250
>invasion timers
>no full redeye orb
>damaged while backstabbing/riposting
>no healing as invader
>thousands of healing items for the host
>shit poise system where rapiers can stagger full havels
>every game has oneshot builds, even 2
>shields easily reaching 100% elemental reduction, so fuck casters
>whole game is catering towards duelfags
>soul memory
>twinking still easy as ever
>ganksquads were a thing in every game
>lmao crit gloves
>backstab immunity
>any statboosting/gimmick armor
>uninfused weapons being trash because infused weapons outclassed them without stat investment in int/fai
Jesus christ, it still baffles me how retarded ds2 fags are. Have fun with your shitty event reviving that shit game for a day.
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>>168683691
>no healing as invader
>thousands of healing items for the host
and yet healing was 100x easier to punish/interrupt in ds2. if the host stood still long enough to pop one of those lifegems while he was at low health he would just die before the hp came into play
in ds3 he can chug right in your face and get instant heals before your weapon hits him
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>>168683783
>ds3 he can chug right in your face and get instant heals before your weapon hits him
You can get two hits in though but I don't disagree that it's bad
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>>168683691
>uninfused weapons being trash because infused weapons outclassed them without stat investment in int/fai
Are you sure you are talking about 2 here buddy, because 1 was the game where the Lightning Zwei was king because flat no scaling damage, 2 was where you ware shooting yourself in the foot by going through multiple resistances for less damage if you didn't hit the int/faith softcap
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hey do you guys on playstation or xbox use ONLINE NAME setting or CHARACTER NAME setting to see what names people are using??
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>>168683691
>dark souls 3 apologists
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>>168683928
I mean unless you have a fetish for being invaded by XxXcodpro3l1t3h4xorXxX or cooping with sunbro Daniel1999 there is pretty much no reason to use online name.
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>>168683883
Yeah but the point is
ds3: guy with 1hp left tries to chug, he ends up at full hp minus 2 hits
ds2: guy with 1hp left tries to chug, he fucking dies
not only did the heal start way later into the animation so you could actually reliably interrupt it in time, but the actual hp-restoration was over 1-2 seconds so even if you hit them shortly AFTER they got the estus off they'd be low enough to kill

>>168683915
buffed infused in 2 was always best, although nonbuffed infused was worse than uninfused

split damage is much worse in 3 than in 2 because of the change to making elemenal resistance use the same mechanics as physical defense
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>>168684032
well it's easier to message them after words since PS4 lists all your recent players in a big pile and you can't tell who is who.
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>>168684027
>nostalgiafags
Have fun with your dead game, retard.
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>>168684070
except one chug doesn't take them to full hp but yeah
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>>168684027
>no actual rebuttal to any of his points
>just a deflection insult and a meme reaction image

2fags, everyone.
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>>168683691
>invasion timers
30 goddamn minutes.
>damaged while backstabbing/riposting
95% damage resistance, admittedly stupid might as well make you 100% damage immune but trying to hit someone during the part of the animation where they did take damage was still not even a good stamina/damage trade
>no healing as invader
Not even true
>shit poise system where rapiers can stagger full havels
Poise had an explicit reason for existing in that game, it was to give heavy and slow weapons a competing chance, not make rapier wielding havels an unstoppable DPS machine.
>shields easily reaching 100% elemental reduction, so fuck casters
If only there was some kind of spell that ignored shields and did enough damage to 1 shot even the tankiest build, or say left a pool of damage on the ground that fucked over turtles.
>whole game is catering towards duelfags
????? the part of the game where everyone was constantly bitching about only invading into worlds with phantoms or NPCs agroing as groups?
>backstab immunity
Well you have to be pretty fucking blind not to see someone use ghost ring, which breaks and is heavy as fuck, or the jesters chest which is just bad armor.
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fucking retards, you don't have to "take teams" and fight for whichever game is your waifu
you are allowed to criticize parts of a game, recognize flaws, and still enjoy it
dont bring this 13yearold tier "myvideogameisbetterthanyourvideogame" shit in here
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>>168684397
>newfag
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>>168684259
Youre just wrong, youre using the wrong word, its a dismissal not a deflection, kid.

>ill try attacking 2 to prove how good 3 is
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>tfw ganked by rats at SL260
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do you guys ever get pissed off by fucking bullshit
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>>168682747
The worst part is ds2 has no way to deal with it. 1 has the rusted ring, 3 has quickstep
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>>168680915
Yes, hello. It is me, that guy you like, uh, Plaintiff Sillyman!
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>>168684646
I just sigh and try again
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>>168683596
desu Miyazaki probably forgot she existed
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Haven't played this in a while, but I'm looking to play through it one more time with a friend
He has a PC and PS4, and would prefer it on PC, but last I had heard hackers were able to softban you
Has this been fixed yet?
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>>168684672
well DS2 has bows and poison arrows so you can just kill the stage hazards (aka magic missile spammers) before they get on your dick
whereas with a poison swamp you're kind of stuck with it

>>168684768
at the very least it isn't a MAJOR issue. it's rare enough to not be worth worrying about
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>>168684814
If there's even a possibility, I'll just stick to the ps4 version
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>>168684814
I was more annoyed by the slog, magic artillery was relatively easy to deal with. Only the gank in the end was hard and that was because of the archdrakes, not the priestesses
>>168684725
That's an elongated player, right? Not suly's actually nekid body? Can we get a face closeup?
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>>168684725
You can see the real pontiff in the background of course this is just a player move swap, which is actually really cool.
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>>168684725
Can this be done with Ancient Wyvern?
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I just got killed by someone called twokatslegion using onikiri and ubadachi...

he pointed down
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>>168681728
>2 for invades
You mean pvp, not invades. The actual fighting was good, trying to get a fight was horrible.
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>>168685428
>2kat+yukaslegion+point down
One of us?
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>trying to use Valorheart in pvp
>keeps randomly blocking attacks and get guard broken and riposted like a retard

How do I git gud with this wep? Please tell me its not a meme. It looks sick with my fashion.
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>>168684027
>dark souls 2 apologists
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>>168685686
literally git gud
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>>168685037
>>168685263
Yeah, I figured out how to (relatively) safely replace the player's model skeleton. Still haven't figured out how to get the actual NPC model while doing so though.

>>168685426
It can be done with pretty much anything. The exception being things with no model skeletons, like Slimes, or extremely different skeletons, like Crabs.
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>>168685724
Do a Monstrosity of Sin, I want to see that.
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>>168685686
dont attack while low stamina i guess
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Level 36 with a magic weapon +3 brigand axe. The abysswalker was a goddamned pushover who lost a fifth of his health bar every time I backstabbed him (and I pretty much exclusively backstabbed him). Am I overleveled, or did they patch him, or what?
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>>168685724
>what has science done

Why would you do this
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>>168685686
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>>168686030
Is hitting L2 just as the guy's roll recovery is about to end a fucking guaranteed parry?
Seems like everybody does exactly the same thing when rolling in close proximity.
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>>168683365
That fucking bias
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>>168685724
what's that stand's name?
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>>168686212
In the webm you can see that after finishing the roll hes about to launch an attack and gets parried
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>>168686346
Yeah I see it now. Still seems like you can be pretty assured that they're going to go for a hit after a roll, though. I'm still learning pvp.
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So does From ever plan to acknowledge that the hitbox on longswords is at least twice as long as its actual model, or...
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>>168684027
>>168683691
>>168683883
>>168683783
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>>168686316
Water Reserve
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>>168685784
Here you are.

>>168685978
Why would I not?

>>168686316
Season of the Witch
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>>168686525
That is disgusting, I love it
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>>168686479
Not always, a lot of people keeps rolling in panic, other try to surprise by launching an attack thinking you expect them to keep rolling

Its mostly trying to predict.
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>>168685686
>randomly blocking
It's not random and you're a shitter for saying that. VH has a bit of a higher skill floor, you need to double check your stamina
>>168686030
Can it be buffed with SMS?
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>>168686212
>Is hitting L2 just as the guy's roll recovery is about to end a fucking guaranteed parry?
if your opponent is dumb yes
they can mindgame you though
they see you pull out the parry so they roll at you and then move for a backstab while you're in parry animation, or do an (unparryable) jump attack
but then if you counter-mindgame their mindgame you can wait for them to roll at you and then r1 them instead of parrying which beats their parry-punish strats
but then they counter-counter-mindgame you and just roll attack anyways to beat your r1
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>>168686525
HOW FUCKING HORRIFYING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>tried to hug my waifu gwyndolin
>see this
W-what does it mean guys? ;~;
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Is rolling too good in ds3? It seems like someone who doesn't even want to fight can just keep on dodging indefinitly. But what, if anything, needs to change?
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>>168686727
the recovery for non-shoulderidle'd weapons needs to be increased by ~20% so that they're caught in their attack animations for a longer period of time

stamina costs being increased for light weapons would help a lot too in this aspect
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>tfw you realize that Fungo made the best lore videos
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>>168686727
rolls and stamina in DS3 are designed for fighting the bosses fairly and encouraging 'bloodborne' like pace. It's an absolutely trash decision for PvP, and the rest of the PvP just sort of works around it whenever possible, instead of fixing it.
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>>168686727
Does DS3 still have negative stamina? It doesn't seem like it.
If not, bring that back.
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>>168684725
>>168685263
>pontiff has THREE clones now
CAN ANYONE STOP THIS MADMAN?!
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>>168686918
It does
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>>168684725
While messing with Pontiff's skeleton, I realized that the visual effects used by NPCs would be properly mapped while using an NPC skeleton, meaning that this is finally possible.
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>>168686723
she's wet for you anon
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YOU, YOU
STOP NOW
CHECK THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irCCizVFq3A
>>168687037
B A S E D
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>>168687037
You best post some tutorials like dgrayed and twools used to
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>>168685724
What would happen if you used this against someone online?
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>>168687114
already seen it, but question:
can you buff unbuffable weapons?
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>>168687037
Can you slap Gael's beard on top of that and dress in archdeacon set for maximum deaconage?
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>not even a week in
>duel mode is nothing but PKs, Roachies and Wardens

That was fast.
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>>168687164
I've got reliable pointers established, so I may just end up releasing this as part of a big modelswap table kind of thing.
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>>168687114
rly gives me conniptions......
>>168687251
>can you buff unbuffable weapons?
They removed that recently.
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>>168687241
Probably nothing. Modelswaps don't typically affect online.
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>>168687514

Wrong general?
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>>168687718
forhonor is the darksouls of "knight hitting guys with a sword" games
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>>168688014
Dark Souls is the Dark Souls of "knight hitting guys with a sword" games
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>>168684725

It's Ruin Suhltinal.
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>>168687580
I'll look forward to it anon. I miss making bosses fight eachother in DS1.

You're doing this all with CE right? Is there a way you're going to dodge bans or are you just going to take them?
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>>168686525
>Season of the Witch
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>>168687037
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>>168688429

Heard you were Linking Fires like I wouldn't find out.
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>>168688429
>i showed you my darksign answer me
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>>168688429

>Danziginasombrero.png
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>>168687114
>even without the long animation and the stamina cost its still barely viable
Inb4 they patch this too. Do they even play there fucking games?
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>>168688709
>fire fades
>depending of the interpretation, that means
>either age of dark approaches
>or age of ancients returns
>pyromancers are stronger than even
>hexers and dragons are weaker than even
WHAT DOES IT MEEEEEEEAAAAAN?
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>>168688178
>You're doing this all with CE right? Is there a way you're going to dodge bans or are you just going to take them?

Bans actually have expiration dates this time around. I've been banned and unbanned a couple of times now, so I stopped even caring about it at this point.
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>>168687114
what the fuck this is nearly the same glitch as dartcasting
how did they not fix it at the same time
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>>168686807
>>168686909
>>168686918
I think a small decrease in i-frames+increased stamina cost might be the best. However, are there any areas in the game that would be fucked by it? And how hard would it be to escape from a ganksquad?
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>>168688836
What happens if you import nana cage movesets on the player character?
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>>168688836
Stick Of Cinder.
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>invade as mound maker
>"Kill host or one phantom"
>kill one of his summoned phantoms
>doesn't count

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>168688902
That's one of the ones that falls under the exceptions listed in >>168685724
>extremely different skeletons, like Crabs.
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>>168688836
PLEASE DO ONE WITH CHAMPION GUNDYR
HOW HARD ARE ATTACKS TO PULL OFF?
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>>168688891
They should have made the hitbox tolerances for bosses subsequent attacks narrower so that the later attacks in a boss combo were easier to dodge without rolling if you rolled through the first few (or vice versa, making the first attacks easy to dodge and 'saving' your roll for the later attacks). But that would focus more on boss gameplay than on flashy animations, which DS3 is all about.

Then, just make it so subsequent rolls consume more and more stamina, so you could only get 4 rolls in a row if you had HUGE stamina since rolls 2 and 3 would consume a huge amount of the bar.
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>>168689243
Attacks are actually kinda hard to land, since the majority of them move you a significant distance. Additionally, it seems like many of the NPCs use the same kind of system for determining the hitbox as the player does, so it's based on the size of their weapon, and any weapon the player has equipped won't be entirely mapped properly for it. I actually turned up the hitbox size quite a bit for this.
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>>168688920
if torch actually had a fucking r1 r1 combo it would be one of the best maces in the game with a single best weapon art and r2
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Iam thinking about doing a SL 1 run of DS 3.
Is it fun?
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>>168690749
as any other sl1 run, not really
you will basically abuse raw broadsword/ass the entire game, or maybe some bleed weapon
better make a low-level twink build and go through the entire game with low upgrade level
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>>168690843
SL1 can't rawass though?
or does missing the faith requirement do literally nothing
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>>168690976
>SL1 can't rawass though?
dark hand your way to priestess ring
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Why are you still playing Duckso?
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How much dmg do you think would be okay to add to Irithyll SS to make it more viable, because Frostbite is shit. I'd say make the dmg like 400-410 at 40/40. Less than LKS, LS & BS due to Frostbite, but still not complete shit.
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Hmmmm.
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>>168691324
if it can't inflict frostbite in a reasonable number of hits there's no reason to use it over a more damaging straightsword
maybe the damage amplification could be good vs bosses?
but in pvp it will always be unviable until we get a way to significantly increase the frostbite buildup
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>>168691281
To fill the void.
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>>168691324
>SS
>not viable
can't you WA swap with the scythe?
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>>168691463
when is march 28 again
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>>168691419
Would say that if the Frostbite build up was fixed, it would be better without the dmg increase, or should both the dmg and build up be increased. Currently at 40/40, ISS is 388 compared to a Refined LS at 428
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>>168691543
ten years
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>>168690976
>or does missing the faith requirement do literally nothing
kinda, you lose next to no damage and only stagger when hitting bigger enemies but also >>168691024
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>>168691563
I'm not sure. Frostbite isn't an amazing status in pvp, so even if it could trigger in 3-4 hits or so I don't know if it would be worth the loss of AR.
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>>168691379
woooooooooow you figured out something we've known for days. you truly are a genius
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>>168691379
where did you get that image with Crimson Bat?
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>>168688014
Fedora honor isnt even souls like, its trash and trash goes in the bin.
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>>168687037
Could you do red glowing eyes in dragon form with King of the Storm's skeleton?
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>dickwraith in Anor Londo
>all these salty indictments
I get a kick every time someone rages when they fall to their deaths while I watch from rafters or archers.
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>>168692094
it's from a currently taken down video with a full fight where host gets wrecked 10 seconds after crimson bat transforming into demon prince
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>>168692279
based gravity
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>>168691865
Imo, if Frostbite did what they say it does, which is lower stamina regen and defenses, it'd be a great status effect. It just irks me that such a legit looking sword is dog shit.
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I have seeded this thread.
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>>168692336
has anyone this video uploaded wherever else?
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>>168692450
there's a single webm floating around
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>>168692450
I'm searching for the mixtape link.
if i can't find it I'll upload it again
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Found it
1st Boss of the DLC
https://my.mixtape.moe/skopje.mp4
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>>168692446
ur not the host you cant do that
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>>168692663
>that screen shaking when he powers up
>that music going apeshit when he transforms
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How is the Follower's Javelin? Going to do a spear build and I've never used it, was going to rock the Partizan, but if Javelin is good, may do that instead.
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>>168692745
I could still use it as an invader if the butt scratch bug was still in the game.
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>>168683596
Guess.
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>>168693017
>her face changed
>he hair changed
>he power changed
>her covenant changed
>her ring changed
>but the tiddy is the same, so it must be her
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>>168692935
r1s are as slow as the pike
r2s are generic
it's short
pretty good AR for heavy / sharp single stat
you can headshot counter-hit trade people with the throw for massive damage and that's all it's good for
useless at range except for being a cunt and throwing a javelin right at the start of an arena match to fuck with buffers
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>>168692943
nuh uh 4chan is updated to the latest edition
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>>168692935
it's the most damaging STR spear that works better for chasing people on low hp and doing HA headshots for shitton of damage
laughable reach for a spear tho
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So guys this might be a retarded question, but theres something lorewise Im kinda confused about.

So The Kiln of the First Flame that we light in each game - is that the same Kiln in every game, or is there multiply kilns spread across the world that are linked to the first flame? Im quite confused about this.


Also why was there no "first flame entity" like Gwyn and the Soul of Cinder guarding the kiln in the second game? Is Throne watcher and defender implied to be "lords of cinder" then?
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>>168693126
DS1 and DS3 kilns are the same, it's an archtree stump with structures built on top of them - Coliseum-like building in DS1 and entirety of Lothric Castle in DS3.

Who cares about DS2's garbage lore though.
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>>168693126
You don't really need Kiln to become LoC though: see Aldrich, they just stuffed him in his coffin at the cathedral.
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>>168693115
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great soul dregs?
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>>168693102
The fact that you fight Edgelord in Gwynevere's bedchamber is pretty fucking suggestive.
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>>168693442
>that casting speed
Jesus christ no, please from.
At least tell me you're not using the sage ring andcasting it with the slowest talisman possible, fuck.
I assume gnaw effects are just a placeholder?
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>>168693442
That's the thing pontiff knights do.
>>168693549
I doubt that's how it will cast.
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>>168693535
And the fact gwynevere had left anor londo before 1 had even begun doesn't?
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>we will never get pursuers grenades
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>not only Gwyn was stubborn enough for his older son to fuck off, too stupid to see that his older daughter became a whore, he also left his younger daughter in hands of the most vile creatures of the setting
10/10 parenting skills there
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>>168693535
But we don't really know why he stole her soul in the first place. In fact, his dialogue reveals him for delusional.
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>>168693442

Faggy said it's a black blob
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Was Pontiff corrupted by Profaned Flame or he's simply an asshole and bully?
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Holy fuckin shit pvp is so bad in dark souls 3. gangfest every where!
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>>168693839
I kinda figured he was trying to save Gwynevere's soul for himself because he was disgusted by her role as goddess of rebirth, but that's just me interpreting what he said to suit my needs.
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>>168693805
>forgetting how he raised his younger son as a daughter because of an affinity to magic instead of lightning
>how he caused him to have serious psychological issues and how he inadvertently created the most cancerous part of the community: gwyndolinfags
>>168693442
>vomits
>cleans mouth
these dregs truly come from the lowest depths imaginable
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>>168694060
given how he never rebirthed despite his burned face, i'd say your argument holds some merit. but still, does explain the other points i made
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>>168693126
No one is in the kiln in Dark Souls II. Vendrick walked away and made elaborate traps to stop his wife getting in while he was fucking about naked in the crypt with his right hand.
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>>168693126
>Also why was there no "first flame entity" like Gwyn and the Soul of Cinder guarding the kiln in the second game?
Because the second game isn't canon. All the shit that shows up in 3 that's from 2 is just fanservice.
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>>168693126
there is no kiln in ds2. the throne of want is a bigass gundam-golem. what you go in is the head, from where you pilot it to wreak havok in drangleic
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>>168694421
>tfw this anon sees the second dlc
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>>168694060
>>168693017
That's Rosaria anon.

Rosaria.
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>>168694421
>Because the second game isn't canon

Stop this meme
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>>168693126
Vendrick presumably beat whoever was guarding the kiln in DaS2's cycle, but then couldn't claim it for himself.
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>>168694508
I have seen it. Its just fanservice. Why the fuck would you go through the trouble to tie shit from 2 to the other two games when the devs didn't bother to themselves?

Just forget that trash.
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>>168694421
DS2 is canon, but it's irrelevant to 1/3. It's hilarious that they brought back pats of earthen peak but instead of any substantial DS2 throwbacks you get to play in hide and seek against Angel there.
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>>168694421
>>168694641
Source: your ass
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>>168694641
>Literally revisiting areas from 2
>Uh-uh its just fanservice... Its not canon guys. The game called 2 is not canon to the game called 3.
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>>168694421
>I don't like it so it's non canon and just fanservice

These mental gymnastics
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>>168694698
Anon, earthen peak in TRC only serves as a part of literal garbage pile of souls world. It has no deep meaning, it only has some fanservice (desert sorceress gear fans wanted so much), while all the real lore is tied to DS1/3 as you fight a demon prince in ruins of DS1 firelink.
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>>168694809
Give me a source where it says 2 is non-canon and all the stuff from 3 is just "fanservice"
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>>168694809
>pile of souls worlds
Which makes it a confirmed canon souls world.
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>Angels in Dreg Heap can curse you with laser
So who is ready to invade there with 2shields and block passages so host gets fucked?
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>>168694698
>>168694764
>>168694778
And? It saves me brain cells trying to tie the shit together. Even in the next dlc Miyazaki literally put all the ds2 in a huge trash heap. Right where it fucking belongs.
>>168694657
Okay fine, its canon but irrelevant. Might as well be the same thing.
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>>168694869
>>168694892
I'm not the anon who said that it's non-canon. In fact, i consider it canon, but irrelevant and mostly ignored by 3. Even by the info we already have about DLC it barely has any DS2 throwbacks aside from a part of Dreg Heap with a few fanservice items.
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>>168694897
Sorry to shit on your parade anon but
>seeds
>weapons that go through shields like shotels.
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>>168695058
I'm pretty sure there will be choke points that will allow you to stand in complete safety from lasers while blocking the passage for host.
And shotel-like weapons in DS3 are pretty shit.
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>>168694957
You're a fucking retard then, alright
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>>168694957
Along with Dark Souls 3 at the top and 1 near the bottom.

>>168694991
So why are you arguing with us?
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I think thats it. Never going to do anymore pvp in fact if anyone invades i just alt+f4 this shit away. Fuckin horrible...
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>>168695058
you never used a shotel have you?

>>168694897
>not using the Millwood Greatbow on the safespots
what's the matter with you?
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How do I get out of bounds in irithyll? not talking about getting to the old demon kings bossroom.
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>>168695108
Shit, count me in.
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>>168695197
was that you, anon
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Is it possible to save Greirat from Lothric Castle?

I think I've made a huge mistake
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>tfw you kind of want to get Outcry but don't want to come within a 100 mile radius of any ashen idols ever again
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>>168694809
>desert sorceress gear
I never actually played DaS2 so I didn't know that was where that gear came from. I'm hype now.
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>>168695151
>defending trash
>I'm the retard
Go enjoy your SM and your diaper king lore.
>>168695160
ds1 firelink got turned into a boss arena and ds2 got a hallway.
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>>168695314
yes, as long as you haven't spoken to Andre yet
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>>168695502
>>I'm the retard

Yep you are
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>>168695058
>weapons that go through shields like shotels.

they only do that on incredibly easily dodged moves not their standard r1s, the pass through damage on anything fast is miserable.

Unless they're in dragon form there is absolutely nothing to fear, especially in the short timeframe it'll take for the angel to BTFO them.
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>>168694897
I'm making a faithbuild so I can stand around in the safespots and spam poisecast divine pillars for area denial
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>Aldia's fight
was that really it?
practically the most hyped up villain throughout SotFS and what I get is a glorified turret fight?
what the fuck were From thinking
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>>168695730
>villain
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>>168695730
Aldia was added for free with an update as a good will gesture for people who bought the game before its rerelease

His boss fight is just a minimum effort copout to facilitate a second ending (release DaS2 only had 1 ending and no choice). You can think of him as just being a boss fight in order for them to be able to say that the utter trash that is Nashandra isn't the real final boss. He's also not a villain, guy.
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>5 weeks and 3 days until TRC
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>>168695108
Time to make the wall
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>>168695340
what the fuck does any of that mean
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Post fashion.
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>>168695502
>Waaaa I didn't like soul memory.
No one liked soul memory anon, stop whining.

We'll enjoy our canon lore. Okay.
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>>168695791
i mean most of the shit he says is pretty morally ambiguous
plus he looks like a villain
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>>168695916
Ashen Idols are a stage hazard in one of the DaS2 dlc areas. A boss soul is split among 12 of them, and reforms when you find and destroy them all.

Outcry is one of the things made by its soul, it's a pyromancy and essentially an upgrade to Firestorm that behaves differently (smaller, tighter radius, pillars erupt much faster and recover almost right away) and deals a mix of fire and dark damage. It was the best pvp wakeup option in the game.
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>>168695916
google is your friend
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>>168682670
no, you just outspaced him, and you would have HA traded anyway
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>>168695852
>release DaS2 only had 1 ending and no choice
hahahaha you have got to be fucking kidding me
i wonder what this game would be like if I hadn't bought SotFS
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Well, I traded the Sword Fragment for a Slab

Lorian's Greatsword +5
Lorian's armor

2bats will face the cripple one more
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>>168695852
>>168696313
I honestly like the first ending more with 3 in mind.

Otherwise I'd be wondering what the Bearer is fucking doing with the crowns
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>>168696313
It was pretty fucking bad, sofs piled a mountain of improvements on a really rough game.
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>>168696326
>fire ugs
>versus fire resistant enemies
good luck
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>>168696313
Mostly the same with some item location changes and less shitty enemy spawns, but an almost dead online
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>>168696372
The Bearer of the Curse is waiting for us in the Ringed City, anon.
He's sealed in the Purging Monument
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>>168693240
I do, thats why im asking. Ds2 lore might be messed up, but it still had some significance.

>>168693338
I thought they forced him to link the fire, and the put his remains in a coffin.
>>168694625
But who is throne defender and watcher then?
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why sometimes when I get staggered in 2 it takes 3 years as if I had been guardbroken? does it happen when I have no stamina?
>>168696326
do it for the memes. i believe in you, meme magic will help you. record it
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>>168696441
>feelio when Aldia probably won't show up

Shame, really
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>>168696383

It's only NG, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Lorian's does ~500 physical or so, which is enough.
>>
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>>168696451
>But who is throne defender and watcher then?
Guards Vendrick put in place.
Defender's armor matches the design motifs of the Syan Knights and has the same crest on his cloak.

Those two are just a pair of elite drangleic knights put to guard the kiln
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>>168692365
It absolutely reduces stamina regeneration in PvP, not sure how significant the defense reduction is, though
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Karla and Cornyx are so lame, they don't evolve or something, they just sell pyromancies and shit.
Karla is implied to be a child of dark, she could have had a questline related to that, maybe a callback of the children of dark in ds2.
Cornyx has Cuculus, maybe he was his pupil before, he betrayed him and we have to kill him or he shall kill cornyx, but he sells good shit.
Idk the whole firleink gang had good stories but those two didn't
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>>168696026
Aldia is cute.
CUTE
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very niceu, desu. can't wait for giant lord. im at 40/10/30/30. That's the optimal allocation, right? should I get 40/40 int fai?
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>>168696761
I think Carla was could enough, considering she's pretty endgame.

Cornyx was pretty boring though, I want my nigger Laurent or the qt drom Dark Souls 2 back
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>>168696842
What's your build my dude, mind posting it?

Was thinking about playing 2 again

>>168696847
*good enough
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>>168692450
my.mixtape.moe/skopje.mp4
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Can someone help me with Twin Princes? Put your sign near the boss fog, platform is pc, password dsg
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>>168696550
>other red just pops in with a spin to kill the host
10/10
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Anygood good lore pepo on youtube?

inb4 vooti
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>>168696989
Awesome, thanks
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>>168697039
If that faggot posts that timeline video again, don't waste your time. Its even worse than Vaati.
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>>168674682
I just upscaled it with waifux2
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>>168697039
Vaati
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MOTHER
FUCKER

>>168696906
as i said, 40/10/30/30. Apply healthy dosages of hp and stamina to your judgement
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>>168697124
gear?
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>>168695935
still wearing drakeblood
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>>168697124
You got what you deserve dirty hexer scum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00g2ZbI3ung
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>>168696847
>good enough

Lets check what we know about her.
>she was a prisoner in irithyll dungeon
>heavily guarded
>tainted by the abyss
>child of dark
>refuses to learn miracles, even the dark ones
>loves pyromancies
Idk, hawkwood had his questline started until lategame too, that's a shitty excuse.
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>>168697216
Sans the most aesthetic piece
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>>168697169
I haven't settled down to a fashion so I mostly wear what I find. For most bosses I go buttnaked
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>>168697124
Ancient Dragon is for some reason a defense tutorial located at the end of the fucking game.

You can stack enough passive fire defense to make yourself almost immune to his breath, which turns the fight into a 5 minute sandbag.
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>>168693805
>Gwynevere
>a whore
she was faithful to flan
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>>168697347
>was
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>>168697406
she's dead I thought
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>>168695935
being a dragon is the height of dragon
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>>168697269
weight is usually an issue
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>>168697269
>tfw they ruined the neckpiece of the drakeblood helm and now the helmet that goes with everything goes with nothing
Still hurts
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there is literally nothing wrong with embracing the Deep
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>>168697439
It would be weird if it wasn't
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>>168697439
dragon
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>>168697484
I imagine gwyndolin has this tattooed on his asscheeks
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hexer or sorcerer if I'm planning on going to NG+8
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>>168697439
https://youtu.be/M9x_koRZ2bA?t=15
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>>168697406
Well she fucked Oceiros and pumped out some kids so either Flann is dead or she isn't faithful.
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>>168697216
Drakeblood chestpiece might be one of the only bits of chest armor in this game that has a built in neckguard.
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>>168697510
please stop bullying Gwyndolin, his life is hard enough already
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>>168697039
Plague of Gripes lets play is decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0X6Y19Qcks&index=1&list=PLPBmbs-JPhHeG6O1CbPn8TqFAZmZvpGT8
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>>168697216
I hate how that hood sits so high on the head, what the fuck is wrong with this company.
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>>168697483
ds2 drakeblood is slightly better
also finding tex codes is easier in ds2

>>168697546
get some dexies and get fucking crunked bruh
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>>168697447
I prefer to swap the boots and gloves to various dark leather ones
I wonder how hard it is to remove the cape too

>>168697483
Damn them to fucking hell
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>>168695935
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>>168697546
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Aspergers Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Doctor's Office Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
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>>168697608
>his life is hard enough already

Anon plz, being dead is the easy part.
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>>168697621
>lets play

Eh, I'll give a try thanks
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>>168697217
is that frampt in the nest in the very beginning? there's something else there jutting out to the right. what is it?
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>>168697621
I appreciate this for all the times he stands in a room for like 10-15 minutes talking about bricks and architecture.
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>>168697621
>plague's LP
dude let's spend 20 minutes complaining about the texture of single individual wall tiles in out-of-the-way locations in the map and then bitch about how this ruins the lore and also about how weapon movesets aren't historically accurate lmao
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>>168697621
What ever happened to just quietly playing the game and letting it speak for itself? Why does everything nowadays have to be about the player and their opinion and the endess deluge of meaningless drivel pouring from their mouth and their 'oh so quirky' personality and their special snowflake identity and "me, me, me, all eyes on me" attitude?

Just close your mouth and play the damn vidya. Fuck.
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Greatswords and glaives should not have hyperarmor.
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>>168697631
Gotta link for that there my man?
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>>168697631
I remember seeing this a long time ago sometime after DaS2's last DLC released and got really excited thinking that there was armor that actually looked like that in the game now.
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>>168697797
Your mom should not have hyperarmor
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>>168697621
>"ugh, this blacksmith has no forge! even I, knowing only a modest amount of metallurgy and smithing, knows that a blacksmith needs a forge!
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>>168697858
look up drakeblood on ds2 nexusmods

if you can figure out how to port it to ds3 TELL EVERYONE

>>168697868
yes unfortunately its a bit misleading, drakeblood is still a great looking armorset
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>>168697797
Only certain weapons in each class should have hyper armor, excluding ultra weapons which should all have hyper armor.
Ultras should have more forward momentum or some thin HA on their startup and recovery frames.
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>>168697779
You could just play the game for that.

And anon asked, faggot.
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>>168697797
Disagree, heavier weapons should require poise to swing by the very nature of their size and weight.
If you dont like it, use a shield or get better at parrying and stop trying to trade like a subhuman.
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I want Great Swamp Cuculus's stuff, how the fuck can I get him to survive Old Demon King though??

He just dies to the swinging combos that are slow as fuck
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SL cap should be 100 and everything balanced around that.
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>>168697217
but muh damage
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>>168698160
How aggressive are you with the boss? I've never have Cuculus die on that fight, even in NG+ but she always comes really close because she refuses to heal until she's one hit away from death.

Best solution is to just be relentless with your attack on him, go for highest damage output possible.
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>>168698203
Why? "I'm an idiot whose build is optimal at 100 and don't want to play against higher SLs" isn't a valid answer
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>>168698160
If you can use the storyteller's staff then poison the demon king before Cuculus can. If you can use toxic mist then do that. If you can do both then do so. Be very aggressive and you might be able to keep the demon king's attention on yourself. You might want to try summoning Tsorig as well.
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>>168698062
>You could just play the game for that.
Watching other people play videogames is at its most useful when it's for a game you don't have or one you have no intention of buying.

I ended up needing to shell out for a goddamn Bloodbornebox because there's literally no playthrough that doesn't have some blithely ignorant american barking, whining and making "goofy" wisecracks while skipping all the dialogue, staring at the ground when there's things happening in the environment around them, faux-raging as they let easy encounters kill them and missing every lorenote while constantly keening "what is even going on? where is the story? where do I go next? what is that? why is that here? I don't understand this is all too complicated. This is a really weird game guise xd"

Just show me the fucking game, I don't care about your internet personality or what kind of amateur performance you're trying to put on for an audience. I just want to know if this shit is worth 400 bucks.
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>>168698160
>>168698434
Like this anon said, keep him focused on you, use the skull ring so he aggro you more
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>>168697972
If I can I will, though ive got some serious doubts about it
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>>168698203
ok
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/146878
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>>168698467
>watching people play games you haven't played yourself
what the fuck?
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>DLC's too hard to do at SL50
>Base game's too shit to play long enough to level up
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>>168698160
I just unzip black knight greatsword and kill the kang before cuculus can die.
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so in the end, was Sulyvahn right?
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>>168698564
>>168698424
I mean the max cap.
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>>168698406
>>168698434
>>168698510
>>168698589
OK looks like I'll have to get good at dodging his attacks all focused on me, this character is SL38 +4 atm
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>>168698587
For some reason /dsg/ keeps denying me when I say SL50 is too low, there's no way I can deal damage fast enough at that level to kill gravetender.
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>>168698116
Greatswords already have good range and speed. You can easily use a greatsword in rags having 0 poise. The hyperarmor is too much and only allows for r1 spamming poisestacking faggots. Same thing with the mace, real bad decision having it have hyperarmor when you stack poise. It just creates a poisestacking meta where everyone is r1 spamming. Glaives are slightly slower than greatswords but have great range to compensate.
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>>168698660
Gravetender is harmless, just kite him around one of the pillars and punish the woof as it keeps dashing past
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>>168698660
That's because we all did the entire game at SL1/+0 with our monitors off, and are 7' tall, black, and have at least 13" penises, anon.
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>>168698740
>black
I'm sorry to hear that, anon.
Maybe it'll be better tomorrow
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>>168698641
PvE is the focus of these games, such limits have no place
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>>168698641
How exactly would that help anything?
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>>168698467
So this is what its like when anon butts into other anon's conversation without even knowing what's going on.

The video series I liked isn't like this. Its for people who have already played the game. He sits going through every item description and talking to all the npcs.

He just shows you the fucking game.
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>>168696991
Can the 2hr2 be parried? I see to many people trying to
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>>168698587
>tfw having to go through Settlement, Roads, Cathedral, and Farron
Catacombs sorta breaks up the boredom because it's short and at least has traps (which are shitty, really). But then it's right back to the monotonous bullshit with Irithyll. DaS3 has got some of the most boring level design. It's like they were afraid to try anything. Or too lazy.
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>>168698828
*linked
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>>168698863
2HR1s and R2s are totally unparryable with all ultras (except the pickaxe)
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>>168698863
no but if someone's on low health and you make it look like you're one-handing it they'll sure as hell try
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Do you think we'll get more footage of The Ringed City before it releases?
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>>168698434
>summoning Tsorig as well

Where is he?
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>>168699050
Of course
There'll be another spoilery event closer to release and it will show off the new arena map and some of the new weapons/gear in the DLC.
Then we'll also get a release trailer
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>google "fun dark souls 2 weapons"
>see a reddit thread
>open it
>from the first post they start arguing why some weapons are cancer
>a few posts later some sperglord lists for how many hits each weapon class should stunlock, according to his superior knowledge
why do I even bother? what are some fun pve weapons in 2?
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>>168699050
looking forward to seeing how normies who only played DaS3 react to the sorceress set
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>>168699050
Yes and they'll spoil the whole god damn thing like they always do.
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>>168699090
His sign should be in the same room as the demon ruins bonfire. It only appears after you beat his invasion in the catacombs.
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>>168699050
Of course, in two weeks we'll see in-depth footage showing all areas and bosses and all weapons and armors will be leaked by pillars of the community courtesy of Bandai Namco
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>>168699116
Santier's Spear
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>>168698467
>because there's literally no playthrough
Damn son, you coulda caught ENB or AGS's playthroughs and saved yourself some dosh.

Or not, BB's great.

>DaS3 has got some of the most boring level design
See, I actually kinda disagree. Some areas seem uninspired (Road of Sacrifices comes to mind), but really Undead Settlement, Crucifixion Woods, Cathedral of the Deep (especially its perimeter), and Grand Archives at least all have fantastic level design.

I think it's shit like enemy placement and bad or lack of atmosphere, and for me personally, dullness of weapon movesets, that really makes the game feel boring as fuck.
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>>168698901
wut, catacombs is the most boring area. The rest is at least pretty
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>>168699116
bone fist
yorgh's
popsicle sword
santier's
gyrm axe
silverblack spear/powerstanced hatchets
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>get summoned for SoC
>host summons another sunbro
>3v1 gangbanging the SoC
>he staggers and falls down
>we all run up to smack his shit in
>starts his standup animation and parries all three of us at once
>ripostes the host and one shots him

SoC don't give no fuck about gank squads holy shit
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>>168699131
"I-t's to sexualized muh womyn reeee"
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About to start Dark Souls 2 after finishing the the first game yesterday. Should I pick a different build to my last one (Warrior/Strength based) or go with what I know?
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>>168699331
If you aren't powerstancing UGS in 2 you're playing it wrong.
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>>168697119
That's an amazing upscale, good to know.
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>>168699378
>not powerstancing smelter dildos
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>>168699331
Dark Souls 2 is probably the best game in the series for big strong man with big weapons playstyle
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Onyx blade is amazing, good dark/fire buff, light weight, scales with INT/FTH, being a pyromancer never felt that rewarding.
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>>168699331
I always do a quality build for first play through.

Dark Souls 2 lets you reassign your stats anyway using a rare (but farm-able in late game) item called a Soul Vessel.
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>>168699424
iirc you don't get the spin hit if you power stance dildoes, so you lose the entire point of wielding it.
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>>168699131
I just hope it wont look as awful on the player model as it did in 2

fucking giant shoulders
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>>168699148
wait, what?
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Omae wa shindeiru
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>>168699531
sounds like bitch talk to me boy
you dont even have 99 str do you
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>>168699331
STR is very good in Dark Souls 2
Strike damage is incredibly powerful
Ultra weapons have high damage multipliers
Scaling isn't as high but the actual damage is higher, and scaling generally favors STR over DEX ("quality" C/C is actually 50% STR 25% DEX)
Experience the might of the true Fume Ultra Greatsword, Ivory King Ultra Greatsword, Iron King Hammer, Bone Fist, etc
Or if you're a casual just cheese it all with Craftsman Hammer / Red Iron Twinblade
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what are the canon personalities of all 5 protagonists?
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>>168699378
>UGS
Ok so I guess I'll go with what I know then
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>>168699331
Literally almost any build is viable. Pretty much every casting school is good, but you'll still want at least some reliable source of physical damage. They change the mechanics of how casting works (if you never used it in DaS1, then there's less to un-learn), but in general it's all very consistent.

If you want to have fun, then Hexes let you tear through everything that isn't in the DLC. Otherwise, going pure physical damage is also fun because power-stancing.
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Never co-op'd before
Do I just slap my sign down at my favourite bosses and play the waiting game? Does it matter if I've already beaten the boss in my own world as long as I'm within SL range?

There is surprisingly little information regarding online mechanics in Dark Souls games.
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>>168699213
DaS3's combat breaks down, I think, simply because the player has too many resources.
It has the same issue as DaS2 where upgrade materials are too plentiful too early, meaning that basic exploration nets you a weapon much stronger than the area you're in is intended for. This continues pretty much right up until Irithyll, where things finally smooth out.

Same thing with souls. You get so many souls early on that you can be level 50 in level 20 areas. Last time I rushed a playthrough to get a pvp character up to speed, I was 65 by the time I reached Abyss Watchers. It's ridiculous.

Add to that the amount of estus you collect and the frequency with which you refresh them, which means that you can afford to make mistakes over and over and over again and never worry about healing resources running low. Souls combat breaks down when it's too forgiving because the resource pressure is half the reason that anything but standard R1s are even useful. Why bother exploring the terrain to find ways to divide an enemy encounter or pick them off individually when you can just go on 40 levels higher than intended and two-shot everything with a +4 longsword in a +1 weapon area, mashing R1 as enemies walk into your attacks, trade and die and then chugging all the pain away because you have 10 estus to burn and will probably only need 4 to reach the next bonfire/shortcut.

These aren't fundamental mechanical issues, just balance ones. We already know that Bamco meddled and forced them to tone down the numerical difficulty just before release, which just ended up causing pve to unravel.
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>>168699227
hatchets meaning dragonslayer axes? or any axe?
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>>168699602
>he wields the smelter dildo for any reason besides that godly spin

Get out gayboi, I bet you played a Hexer.
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>>168699713
silverblack hatchet
i forgot its real name
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>>168699626
>not powerstancing berserkswords
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>>168699549
That's largely because of how blobby the models were in DaS2.

The trade-off now, of course, is that it's impossible to make a decent face in DaS3.
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>I owe this to you, thank you, truly Horace, weve done it, we really have…

*smiling in autistic*
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>>168699589
>only 1 katana

WEAK
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>>168699710
I found that early game areas actually got much harder playing as a sorcerer or a pyro because of the split estus giving you much less heals, and how you generally don't have much HP and have to spread your upgrade materials out further. It really feels like the early game was balanced around splitting estus and resources between magic and melee
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Is Estoc still considered OP/too good/meta cancer? Why?

I've been using it a fair bit and I'd say it's solid but not overpowered per say.
opinions?
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>>168699852
>implying ds2 faces looked any better
lol
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>>168699958
>bet this some 2kat fool

>3KAT !?
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>>168699958
psssh
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>>168700141
No, it's just a solid weapon choice. Sort of like a longsword or something.
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are all the souls stuffed inside the Soul of Cinder conscious? are the CU and Gwyn still in there, aware of the pain of burning?
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>>168699959
Ironically, you don't actually get any good spells until you're deep enough for the estus split to be no problem. Only the players that start as a magic-focused character and feel the need to make due with their spells struggle this way, and with the sheer quantity of souls you get early on, you can basically turn a sorc start into a quality build as soon as you kill vordt.
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>>168699958
>not going 4kat
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>>168700225
What chest armor my dude
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>>168700332
Lorian's
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>>168700159
At least in DaS2 it makes what you put into the creator. You can't say the same for DaS3, where they just did a 1:1 implementation of Bloodborne's without accounting for the lighting and artistic differences.

>make a girly-looking face in DaS3
>comes out looking very man-like in the game

You literally have to fudge the creator in DaS3 and make your character look off in the creator for it to look decent in-game.
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>>168700364
merci
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>>168700397
I've always had that problem with DaS2 as well. All the character creators suffer from that issue. It's actually less of a problem in DaS3 just because you can go back and tweak it without making a whole new character.
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>>168700141
>OP
Not even close
>too good
It's not even good
>meta
Not since the speed nerf

The Dark Souls 3 estoc is the Dark Souls 1 estoc without ANY of its strengths, in a faster game (barring backstabs) that doesn't have poise yet has hyper armor
It doesn't have the running attack double hit
It doesn't have the godlike shield pokes, its shield pokes are suicide to use
It doesn't get 400 extra AR from DMB

Any form of hyper armor completely counters it, and hyper armor is easier than before to use + greatswords are even better
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>>168700245
>>168700141
I got back into DS3 PvP again and I've been having a really easy time with pretty much every weapon that isn't outright garbage - to the point that I feel like all the weapons I've chosen are secretly OP metashitter things.
BKGS, BKH, Hollowslayer GS, Claymore, Kumo/Exile GS, and Gundyrs aren't widely considered bullshit right? Or am I a shitter without even knowing?
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why is the farron memesword so shit?
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Do faith spells need a speed buff? They seem pretty slow. Sucks because most of them are supposed to be cast right in the enemies face. Or would that just be unfair to ultra users and make the pve extremely easy?
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>>168700556
Because it's a quality UGS with less AR than a pure str greatsword and no unparryable attacks.

Also because the reworked poise changes means that its L1s, its literal only saving grace, gets completely shut down by fucking maces of all things.
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Never 4get
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Anyone up to kicking my ass in a few brawls?
pass: dsg
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>>168700524
Maybe you're just fighting really bad players. I know I get that impression a lot and I'm definitely pretty bad and unknowledgable about the pvp in DaS3 or any souls game, but I still do pretty well until I encounter a player that actually has good positioning and stuff.
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>>168700509
How did they nerf it/how was it good before? I was using Estoc + Crystal Magic Weapon on my sorcerer playthrough around the game's release and it was very nice, but when I offhanded mentioned the combination at one point recently Anon got very butthurt by it
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>>168700770
Sure, just let me blow the dust off my Sega Genesis.
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>>168700770
who are you again?
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>>168700556
It's not that bad, but maybe I've never encountered any competent players. It's stupid that the 3rd L1 (a jump attack) can be parried. Weapon art could've been much more.
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I bought this game a few days ago and I knew it was supposed to be painfully difficult. I knew I had some mental issues... But I also had a lot of free time and a love of RPGs and sword and sorcery in general. I'm 40 years old, married, no kids. Mid life crisis full effect.

I played as a wanderer my first character. A disaster. I'd never played Demons Souls, so I was brand new to the controls. Died over and over on the Asylum Demon. F**k. Gave up for a while. Few hours later, I tried a Bandit character. Killed the Asylum Demon on the first try. Felt like a bad ass.

Grinded away for several hours. Became hooked on the forums here and the Gamespot forums as well. The goddamn game wouldn't leave my head. I could not stop thinking about this damn game.

Long story short: I never got to kill the Taurus Demon. I came close the first few times. After that I got sloppy, or else I was trying too hard to emulate youtube videos I'd seen. I ended up on my fourth character after reading the forums extensively... a pyromancer... I still couldn't beat the fu***cking taurus demon. I was literally dreaming about this game by now. I was becoming short tempered towards my wife, the one person who I really love on this earth.

I tried grinding out more levels on the sly... late at night after my beloved wife was asleep. Still getting killed. F***ck this I thought. Leveling doesn't do much iot seems.

One last rage quit. It was seven days after getting the game. I live in a big city surrounded by a few universities... there's college kids all around me.

I put the game on a newspaper box with a note attached: "Free game: it will ruin your life. You're welcome"

I went out a few hours later and it was gone. I obsessively thought about the game for weeks afterwards. I still think about it. I just don't have the patience or the time to do it. Dark Souls taps into the casino slot machine/ MMORPG kind of reward center of the brain.

Anyway, thanks for reading.
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>>168700854
Sorry

PC
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are black pyros good?
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Also never forget to combine your powers when you fight sentient trees. Just like in my japanese animes.
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>>168700884
>and I knew it was supposed to be painfully difficult.


He actually fell for the Bamco meme marketing
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>>168700524
>BKGS
if you mean black knight sword, black knight sword is invasion jap meta #1, up there with dark sword
if you mean the UGS no, not unless you're a master of the 2hr1-2hr2 combo
>BKH
not as good as it once was but still solid unless you're fighting greatswords
>Hollowslayer
absolutely
>Claymore
absolutely
>Kumo
no, this is a directly inferior version of every curved greatsword, mostly because of its absurd stamina costs (higher than exile greatsword)
>Exile
being a better kumo doesn't make it good
>Gundyr's
stat efficient halberd with incredible weapon art made even better by the poise changes, really fucking good you should be able to shit on anyone with it


chances are, you're just from /dsg/, you've likely been playing these games a long time, you're better than the average shitter
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>>168700524
Everything you named is high tier, but not meta weapons. You might be a shitter, but I'd take you for the avg dark souls player.
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>>168700397
DS2 character creator was fucking horrible, by far the worst in series. You could only create literal potato faces in it.
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>>168700524
>bkgs
the best heavy UGS
>bkh
the best halberd
>hollowslayer gs
very good gs
>claymore
extremely good gs
>curved gs
very good weapon category
>gundyr's
very good halberd
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>>168700524
>Or am I a shitter without even knowing?

Why do you care?
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>>168700983
Are you baiting Lucifer into posting his character album?
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>>168701046
There's BEING decent at something
and THINKING you're decent at something

I'd rather be the first case.
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>>168698690
>R1 spamming meta

Learn to parry if its so predictable, you sound like the sort of shitter who just tries to trade and gets wrecked.
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Why people who play with female characters are always absolute cunts?

Is this some personality thing?
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>>168701127
Dont you mean football
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>>168701213
That has nothing to do with you weapon choice my friend
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>>168700884
http://www.giantbomb.com/dark-souls/3030-32697/forums/anyone-else-getting-a-delay-on-their-r1-attack-518528/#js-message-4785491
>6 hours to get to the Taurus Demon
What the actual fuck.
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>>168700919
Or "pulling a Final Fantasy V", as we call it in the business
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>>168701308
Someone post the pic
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Been re-playing DaS2 vanilla and I think I ran into a major bug with Licia. I tried to kill her when she first appears above the Dragonrider arena but I got killed, the thing is though that I'd knocked her off of the area onto the stairs leading up from the Dragonrider arena. She didn't die or anything but now she's not appearing anywhere in the game, I checked the place in Majula but she's not there either. Although I can buy her set from the hag merchant so I guess the game just thinks she's "dead" now but I can't get the lockstone to access the way to Huntman's Copse or anything.

Is this playthrough fucked now?
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You like it when my witchfu one-shots you, dont you?
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>>168700318
I'm tempted to get 5 other 2kats so I can have 12 katanas on me.

A katana for every occasion.

>>168701289
because they're roleplaying as actual women, duh
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>>168701485
Meant for >>168701289
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>>168701485
Kriemhild looks strange in this picture
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>>168699703
Yeah plop it down to kill the boss or plop it early on at a bonfire to play the whole zone. People typically summon for help right outside bosses though. Plop on the blue no-fun police for some extra fun, but that usually takes a while to get summoned because not a lot of people use way of blue. Sad because I love getting summoned as a blue. ; _ ;
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>>168701485
Quelana is best witch
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>>168701289
You;re more sensitive to the actions and transgressions of characters that appear female to you because of deep-seated insecurities. In reality, everybody is equally autistic and anybody playing a female character also has a male character at the same level they play about as much. You just can't excuse a point down or a 2kat combo if the character's gender is the same as your mother
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>>168701361
I do actually remember experiencing a couple of glitches like that. I came from Demon's Souls so I wasn't a stamina retard either. Looking at the patch notes....

"Fixed the 1 second delay during certain attack animations."

"Fixed a bug where your inputs come out 1 second later"

Etc. That shit's legit.
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>>168700829
Seems this is the only webm I have of pre-patch rapier speed.
It used to be so fast that you could almost blockstun-lock someone just by spamming r1 until their stamina ran out and interrupt anyone's r1 spamming.
Speedrunners used to pick Assassin just for the huge DPS.
Rapiers were all nerfed to be the same speed / recovery as the DaS1 ones.

Now? Now straight swords have more range + hit radius, are faster, win trades, you can't shield poke, etc.
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>>168697972
I was taking a peruse a minute ago, so effectively '''''''all'''''' I have to do is find the 3 drakeblood original files and compare them to the mods before just using the injector or whatever?
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>>168690473
How's nameless kang look?
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>>168701351
I consider using OP weapons and equipment to win the first case and using average weapons and equpiment to win being the second, friend.
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>>168701650
Fuck I forgot to link the patch notes.

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/game-patches

I'm too lazy to search for a more refutable source.
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why does dark buff look so shit?
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>>168701776
Because dark stuff always looks bad. You apparently get a better looking effect on your weapon if you wear an untrue dark ring though.
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Anyone here got some good vikangz fashion expect the obvious northern armor?
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>>168701850
Post a ss please.
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>>168701289
https://youtu.be/rWoqgiOPvYg?t=140
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>>168701776
Because they recycled DaS2's low-res particle effects. It doesn't read clearly enough because it's literally just puffs of slightly purplish smoke, so they had to make your weapon glow neon to make it visible
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Does anyone want to help with oceiros?
Pc, by the gate, pass dsg.
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>>168701850
define "better looking"? I doubt you mean more detailed but is it genuinely different or are you just messing with me?
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Whoever thought enemies should get uberprotections during grab moves needs to be gassed
>>168701776
because they went with the whole thing being purple instead of being black with a purple tint and a thick white outline
>>168701940
it just removes the color from the weapon, leaves only the aura
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>>168701970
manly jaw
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>>168701940
This is only with pine resin, no idea if it also works with the buff.
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>>168701951
Stop posting your shitty videos.

Anyone that btfos faggot youtubers is a saint
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>>168702043
Trap-phobia has warped your mind. The overwhelming majority of real people have "man jaw" because, and here's a shocker, your jawline isn't a secondary sex characteristic. If you want to check whether it's gay to fap to something or not, check the adam's apple.
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DaS1: Blighttown, Tomb of the Giants, New Londo Ruins, and some parts of Oolacile.

DaS3: ?

Was there some spooky dark area in DS3? I dont remember. Dark areas are pretty good to keep me on edge when playing, even on NG+. The Depths and the Catacombs in DS1 seemed darker than everything in DS3. Whats the point of the torch? Even the Carthus Catacombs were full of torches on the walls. The "dark" cemetery of ash is kinda dark but its so unnatural that I dont thinking they were aiming for a really spooky area.

What do you people think? Why are DS3 areas so bright compared to DS1? Darkroot garden is not necessarily a dark area but gives a way stronger dark fantasy vibe than DS3 areas.

The entire Road of Sacrifices sucked ass. For a post apocalyptic world that has the first flame on the brink of death, DaS3 looks really bright and warm compared to DS1 and 2.
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>>168702146
>>168702043
Gentlemen, please.
Let's focus on the matter at hand, which is faggot oceiros.
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>>168702146
Or better yet just fap to what you're attracted to and stop worrying about labels. You're in your own home, I hope. Who are you hiding your fetishes from?
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>get a sunbro summon
>Fallen Knight set, minus the pants, which are Lothric, with Grass Crest shield and a Dark Sword
>points in the direction of Emma's church and runs off in that direction
I'm sure there's no conceivable way this can go wrong
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>>168702226
Irithyll Dungeon & Profaned capital were pretty dark and spoopy imo

DS3 also lacks passive character sound effects for the most part. In DS1, certain areas that were essentially silent I swear you could hear your character breathing and that always made the atmosphere seem more fleshed out, whereas I can't remember having any experiences like that in 3
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>>168702283
if your private life isn't filled exclusively with things you can share openly with your friends and peers later to seek their mutual approval then you are not living your life correctly. The only purpose behind hobbies, interests, pastimes, entertainment and masturbation is to have something to say in social situations to make yourself seem cool and interesting and receive positive attention from others.
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>>168702374
Lmao never gets old desu i love playing noobs
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>knives into thrust moveset

I'll never manage to avoid that, it's too fucking fast
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are crow claws good?
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>>168702374
>>168702374
Here's a spoiler:
It went wrong within ten seconds
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>>168702226
Irithyll dungeon has fucking screamers in it and some of the most disturbing enemies in series.
DS3 looks bright and warm but only till you notice that light comes not from the sun but a giant gaping hole in the sky surrounded by flying mutated hollows
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>>168702374
>follow him to the gate
>as soon as the fight starts bsc
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>>168702512
Fun to use, but not particularly 'good'
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>>168701746
You're right, yoou're only good if you win with OP stuff, otherwise you use bad weapons to justify when you lose
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Does the disable curse script still work in DaS3?

I got cursed twice yesterday when I was targeting gankers.
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>>168702249
Can you post pics without dyke hair?
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>>168702512
wa combos with r1
rolling r1 are pretty good
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>>168681728
that's not the souls series
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>>168702595
I realised I fucked up and got my ordering wrong, ignore me
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what were the Primordial Serpent's master plan?
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>>168702432
>>168702537
Yeah, those screamers in the Dungeon were pretty spooky. That room full of them was decently dark. I dont think Profaned Capital was dark and spooky at any point.

Putting those screamers in a Tomb of Giants area were you would need to use your torch would be good. Farron Keep greatly failed on both as a swamp area and a scary area.
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>>168702681
But that's the reason i love these pics :(

Also, oceiros done, thanks for nothing guys
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>>168702845
>Farron Keep greatly failed on both as a swamp area and a scary area.
Farron keep wasn't designed as a scary area. It's more of a sad one as you see beautiful darkroot forest utterly wrecked, mushrooms dead and all dwellers horribly corrupted. Though pursuers-casting assholes and basilisks in the area where you can't really roll for shit are kinda intimidating.
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Lmao wtf, so much people died to a single lizard? What will they do on the Peak?
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>>168702226
To me DS1 always felt like you came through the areas decades after they'd fallen to ruin - like entire generations have passed, almost.

DS3 feels more like a couple of months, maybe a year or two after things started to go to shit.
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>>168702845
DS3 didnt use darkness nearly as well as 1 did, but I feel like the darkness was a result of limitations instead of by choice.

The Farron swamp being pitch black and only illuminated by scattered torches would have gone a long way with making it spooky considering all the asshole monsters that could come running out of it. A good deal of places in the game could do with some pitch black environments, or at least very dark.

Its a shame reshades just blast up the contrast and cant really give it the same effect.
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>>168703183
DaS1 was dark in no small part because darkness obscures ugly textures and directs focus, letting the developers use the platform's limited processing resources more efficiently

DaS3 eschewed that because HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ALL THIS SHIT EVERYWHERE is like entire core principle of its aesthetic design philosophy, so flat, universally illuminating lightning is used.
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>>168703183
>Ghru facefuckers charging out of a pitchblack swamp

How horrific
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>>168703071
Well Farron managed to be scary when you first see those giant goat monsters clutching tree trunks and shambling at you through the deep mud like it's nothing.

Although what you describe perfectly fits my feelings when approaching Anor Londo, seeing that once beautiful and pristine holy cathedral now completely desecrated by heresy and accursed beasts, with the floor covered in sewage and the completely abandoned Darkmoon Tomb excep for the Lady's dead body slumped against a pillar
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>>168703107
that's because they can't bring their summons there
On a side note, are those stones suppose to be titanite slabs?
looks very similar
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>>168703117
>>168703183
Yeah, I totally agree.

>>168703071
>>168703373
Sure, it makes sense looking at the lore. I just dont feel it was really appealing in a gameplay or also on a visual point of view. It could look sad without looking boring as shit.
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>>168703319
I find it interesting that people saw one playthrough of DOOM in hell and bitched endlessly about the flat lighting and overt yellow color filtering everything.

But we basically have the same issue in Dark Souls 3 and no one really says anything. I personally dislike it and wish the contrast and colors popped more and the sky wasnt so yellow.
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>>168703071
>Dark Root Forest

You know that the Dark Souls 1 map and the Dark Souls 3 map fit together perfectly with only Anor Londo overlapping
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>>168703117
DaS3's decay feels more high-fantasy fare, like kingdoms ruined by magical means and by some vague, esoteric concept of end-times and apocalypse rather than through the natural process of time.

Like in DaS1, you see this world destroyed by the passage of time and the whole flame stuff floats int he background as a great metaphor for time.

In DaS3 it's inverted. You see this world going magically haywire because fire is running out and time is just the direction that the cycle turns.
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>>168703373
>Well Farron managed to be scary when you first see those giant goat monsters clutching tree trunks and shambling at you through the deep mud like it's nothing.

>playing for the first time
>heard about some goat dudes in a swamp that would literally rape your face
>first enemy I meet was an elder ghru
I just wasn't expecting them to be so big and I didn't even notice it until I was right next to it. I mean, I got it later when I bumped into a smaller Ghru, but I ran like fuck when that thing started shuffling towards me and didn't want to go back in.
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I think the Cathedral of the Deep would be GOAT if they put it during a night cycle, as well as reducing heavily the lightning inside the chapel, with some kind of New Londo vibe.
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>>168703470
I kind of like how you can sort of get disoriented by the lack of unique landmarks in parts of the swamp. Sort of a decent way to artificially make it stressful to navigate the first time.
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>>168703874
Nah I prefer it the way it is. New Londo was a sicknasty dark kind of area, while CotD is a fall from grace sacred temple of Way of White.
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>tfw no Greathammer-class tree trunk weapon that casts sorceries
>tfw no nasty Ghru robes
>can't even wear their horns
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>>168703715
Yeah. I kinda liked the Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith segment of Smouldering Lake tho. Even though they barely resemble the DS1 counterpart aside by some references here and there.
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Should I do Cathedral of the Deep first of Farron Keep? Kind of looking out for Twinkling Titanite and am playing as a Sorceror. Any NPC quests if I go either one first?
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>>168703874
The lightning in CotD was bad but the lightning in the whole game was kinda bad.
If the interior had been more like BB's ambient lighting, it would have been perfect. I think that zone would've really benefited from more of a gothic horror atmosphere to emphasize the whole "once noble church fallen from grace"
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>>168703874
>Day cycles
>Different mobs for each
if only
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>>168687114
i fucking love limit breakers' videos
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>>168704005
Well, be it Undead Settlement then. It doesnt look really that morbid for the name it has
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>>168704128
You get two sorcery scrolls in Farron Keep
There's two twinkling titanite at the entrance to Cathedral of the Deep, just past the sage, and another two just past the 2nd bonfire. The boss of Cathedral makes either a sorcery or a weapon/casting tool hybrid.

Cathedral has the more difficult area but the easier boss. Farron keep is vice versa.

NPC quests aren't influenced by which you do first.
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>>168704142
Some copout system where it would be day in one part and night at the other part of the game like in DS1 would be enough for me in DS3. I cant stand that fucking bright and orange sky fucking up the lightning everywhere I go. Jesus, it made me absolutely hate Lothric Castle

>>168704132
Yeah
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What are the odds that after the last DLC releases that they will release a Prepare to die edition of 3 with further improvements? Or is From completely done with DS3 after this last DLC.
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>>168703715
Somehow I actually think that both scenarios are adequate from a lore standpoint though.

In DSI most of the big problems that afflict the world are only tangentially related to the waning of Fire. As in, the realization that Fire is fading and it'll bring doom to all causes various parties to scramble for solutions that end up causing other minor disasters.
New Londo fell to a violent but localized infection by the Abyss, Lost Izalith fell as a result of the Witch's power running rampant and birthing demons, Anor Londo was abandoned after its central authority figure went away to try and deal with the Flame problem and its remaining gods bar Gwyndolin simply forsake the place.

But on a basic level the world is still working more or less correction, with only the laws of time getting wonky as an excuse to allow multiplayer to exist, and the veil of humanity slipping and causing hollows to pop up in greater and greater numbers.

By the time III happens though, the dying First Flame is a major problem that is affecting the very stability of the world NOW rather than in an uncertain future to come, the laws of reality are breaking down and even the sun is running out. It makes sense for its effects to be far more severe than just the natural decay of abandoned ruins
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>>168687114

Is there really no stamina cost?
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>>168704518
There is already a GotY edition being released. I wouldn't get any hopes up that they intend to do anything but leave the game to die as soon as TRC is out the door.
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>>168693442

That's what the Pontiff Knights do when you're at long range-- they vomit little affinities.
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What build can I do now? Or at least a fun weapon to focus on
So far I have:
>dex build
>quality build
>50 str build with some faith
>Valorheart focused build
>Pyromancer
>50 int build

I don't know what to do anymore
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>>168704924
Luck
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>>168704924
>>Valorheart focused build

post it pls
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>>168705093
Quality with a fuckload of stamina
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>>168705116
lel ok thanks
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>>168704924
>Valorheart focused build
what a waste of a slot, anyway
Luck(bleed, poison, frost)
27/40/40 int
Faith build
Hex/Dark
Str/Vit
<30% claw/fist
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>>168705326
Frost doesn't scale with luck.
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>>168701453
bump
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>>168705093
>>168705116
What he said. A big amount of stamina is important, you don't want to get guardbroken.
It's still in progress though, I don't know when I will stop leveling. You should go for 40 vig, 40 dex and 40 str
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>no gold tracer in DS3
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>>168705013
Oi don't talk ill of it, it's really fun (well it's more of a gladiator build, I m also using the javelin and demon fist
>>168705013
>>168705326
And how do I into bleed? Thief class and then 2kat or washing pole?
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>>168705637
>the "DS3 should have everything DS1 had" meme
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>>168705326
>27/40/40 int
just say GSoJ you dork
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>>168705637
soon anon

soon
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>>168705621
>you should just do generic quality build
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>>168705424
then, frost doesn't scale with anything does it? what a disappointment

>>168705747
Either Thief or Warrior, depending if you use att
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>>168706174
Well, that's what suit Valorheart, it's not like there are a lot of option in this game
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>>168706272
Doesn't scale with anything while its resistance scales with vigor.
The worst status effect in the game
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Unkindleds can survive falls from exceedingly tall heights, but only if the ground falls out beneath them.
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>>168706054
So change the gold tracer to "decent dex swords".

>>168706080
I hope, if not imma kill myself.
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>>168706174
>expecting anything different for build advice in Dark souls 3
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>tfw realizing there's no dark area in DaS3
Ehh? And don't say untended graves, as you can still see plenty down there. I'm talking tomb of giants/ the pit level shit. Which is all the more of a kick in the face since you have the bloodborne torch. And that game didn't have a dark area either. Fuck.
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>>168706443
>spreading the no build variety meme
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>unplugging in the arena
People don't like losing
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Hey gang, any tips for how I should build my new character? Not played DaS1 since release.
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>>168706615
pyromancies only
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>>168706462
Nigga just turn off your monitor and every area will be a dark area
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>>168706532
Well hes right
Theres no point in doing anything but Refined 40/40 thanks to the community that decided on a SL120 meta before letting the pvp show its flaws
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>>168706462
Dark areas were kind of a mediocre gimmick.
I understand DaS1 because it had a lot more pure RPG elements like needing to find a source of illumination to proceed in the pitch-black cave zone, but as the game;s have drifted away from that and more to the action side of things, the point behind a "mandatory loss of offhand slot" area just seems lost.
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>>168706615
28/45 pyrokumo
45 dex 50 int with Velka's
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>>168706441
>right hand does 33 poison buildup, not toxic
>left hand does 33 bleed buildup
>has the lowest AR of the paired curved swords to compensate for dual status yet rarely ever actually activates those statuses
>ends up less effective than poison infused warden twinblades on a luck build
>can't be buffed or infused
>1 million ciaran cosplayers spam the weapon's L1s for weeks in the arena causing everyone to know how to fight it

Watch it happen
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>>168706615
do anything
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>>168701289
>tryhard virgins
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>>168707105
>Dancer Enchanted Swords 2: Eletric Bogaloo
Goddamn it
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>Invade someone in SotFS
>they're sliding all over the place and hitting me from like 10 feet away

What the fuck just happened
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>>168701251
Up yours retard, greatswords/glaives are so pisseasy to play passive reactively because its speed +hyperarmor makes sure no one can interrupt it. With an ultra there comes some skill into play where you have to predict your opponenents move so you trade with them. With a greatsword/glaive I can shutdown anyone who is the slightest bit aggresive. The speed of these weapons is too high too high to give them hyperarmor. It's almost more braindead than straightsword spam. I'm killing fuckers left and right with a +6 executioners greatsword with only rags equipped. Greatswords and glaives are for braindead shitters.
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>>168707414
average souls pvp experience
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>>168707373
All 4.
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>>168707373
height and width
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Pale tongue 1: Quality 40/40 to easily get through the pve before pvping

Pale tongue 2: 60 dex/str to try some specific build in pvp

Pale tongue 3: Well, it sucked, gonna try some 60 faith build

Pale tongue 4: It wasnt bad, but i'll have to change this faith only build since I reached Dragonlayer armour

Pale tongue 5: Better go back to quality since i'll have to get through the next NG+ sometime

repeat
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>>168707701
I had a faith only build when I reached dragonslayer, I just killed him with blessed weapon.
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>>168707373
Any divisible by 16
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>today I will play DaS3
>let's pick a class
>wasted points everywhere, better pick Knight
>again
>STR? better to go quality
>DEX? better to go quality
>knight quality
>again
>let's try a niche weapon this time
>whips? bows? crossbows? axes? hammers?
>all the same boring ass movesets and barely viable compared to just r1 mash straight sword
>knight quality ss
>again? fuck this let's do magic
>wasted points in luck everywhere, better pick Pyromancer
>FAI? massive fp costs and shit damage outside of lightning stake
>INT? great heavy soul arrow all game
>hybrid caster? lmao damage rings
>pyro pyros only
>let's look at the viable pyr
>CBV all game until black flame

>DLC won't fix this
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>>168707782
When I had a faith build I didnt even know about blessed weapon, and end up trying to beat him with a lightning axe and Wrath of the Gods, since Sunlight Spear did fuck all to his health pool. After an hour trying I had to respec stats. My greatest pain in DS3.
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Can you use CE in 3 to reallocate your attributes around like in 1? Or is it bannable? Im out of tongues and i want to try another build but i dont want to get b&
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I always forget, what's the relationship in completionist terms between Heysel, Sirrus, and Reynard?

-I can't get Silvercat Ring and Heysel's gesture in the same playthrough, but I can get Heysel's gesture and Sirrus' armor set by killing Sirrus
-I can't get Leonhard's weapon and Silvercat Ring in the same playthrough, but I can get Leonhard's set and Silvercat Ring by killing Leonhard in Firelink

...right?

Supposing I want Leonhard's set and the Silver Cat Ring, I have to shank him before disappears after getting Applause?
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>>168707906
Nice meme.

PvPers ars such cancer
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>>168707459
If its so braindead and easy, why can't you parry them.
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>>168707847
>>168707560
>>168707659
I'm asking because I can never make very long webms that look good, they get cut off and/or look shitty.
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>>168708037
what part of that post was about pvp you mong
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>>168708154
well you're bitching about viability, few if any weapons aren't viable for PvE
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>>168708006
Complete Sirris questline
Then give a tongue to Rosaria
Kill 2 bosses
She'll be dead and you can kill her Leo for his stuff
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>>168708154
>wasted points

Who gives a kek if it's not about pvp
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Is modifying my covenant rank in DS2 going to softban me? I would earn the shit myself but there is literally nobody to play with as a blueberry. I've had the ring on my entire playthrough and not a single summon. Nobody is dueling and the blue eye orb just immediately breaks.
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>>168708090
Webm for retards pastebin. search it.
you can't do good quality webm for time>10s
if it's very long, just use https://mixtape.moe/
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>>168708303
I am using webm for retards, guess I'll just try to make shorter ones.
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>>168708053
because parrying is something a defensive player does, you mongoloid. If some greatsword fuck is going to standback and just play on the defense then I can't just run up to him and parry him. Also, no weapon should have the solution of ''lmao, just parry them''. Not everyone has caestus on their offhand you cuckold. You shuold try using a greatsword with no poise, but you'd probably get shit on because you're so trash you need you hyperarmor crutch.
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>>168708284
it's pretty hard to get softbanned in das2 as long as you're not a stupid trainer babby

there's very little cheat detection

i never did with all the shit I did
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>>168707906
>well lets pick knight, but ill try to specialize it sometime
>lets go quality for know, since those early weapons are good in it
>lets level Vigor and Endurance like everyone for now. Vitality? Whats the point? I'm fast rolling im knight armor ealy game! I'll respec my stats later for pvp
>wow, astora greatsword, looks good on my quality build
>lets try some pvp before reseting stats
>wow, this build is pretty good on pvp with this generic buff!
>let me try some specific build instead of this generic UGS+40/40+buff build
>wow, it sucks ass
>go back to generic quality build
This is pratically every playthrough i have in this game
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>>168680748
In ds3 if you die to a faggot invader do u lose humanity?
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>>168708380
yeah, but did you read the pastebin? it usually have most of the answers you seek.
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>>168708501
Yes, you lose your ember
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>>168707906

>did FAI playthrough
>was mostly DEX/FAI until I respecced to pure FAI with a lot of VIG and decent amount of END
>rushed to Crow's Quills early
>went through the whole game healslutting it up for hosts and bleeding out bosses with Gnaw and occasionally using the Quills
>saved several lives with emergency Great Heals
>got bored with Quills and switched to the Saint's Bident
>got DMB before beating up Aldrich and buffed Saint's Bident with it whenever I needed to get physical with enemies

Dunno about the other stats, but you don't exactly need damaging miracles in order to have fun with FAI. It's definitely more suited to playing with others, though
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>>168708232
>compared to just r1 mash straight sword
It's either boring or it's painful with few in-betweens when it comes to actually playing the fucking game
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>try getting the corvid scythe
>get 4 fucking staffs, a great knife and some 29k souls
>but still no scythe
fucking i want to die
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>>168708397
Das 2 doesn't give you a warning or notification though does it? I'm pretty sure I've heard people talking about getting a warning for das3, but not 2.

Thats mostly what I'm worried about.
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>>168708635
>magic buff against Aldrich
>in game with super weak buffs that require 60 faith to slightly outperform resins
>in co-op
>with saint's bident
You wanna know how I can tell you did no damage
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>>168708661
You act like that doesn't apply to the other games as well.
There are less than 10 weapons for PvE in every game by your logic
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So with CE i can just teleport to SoC bonfire before fighting Gundyr, enter ng+ and will not get banned?
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so i just got to the DLC, crows quills look cool, is it worth investing 60 dex or are they okay refined in a quality build?

i'm also tempted to reroll for the onyx blade because it looks pretty interesting
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>>168708808
you know you're softbanned if there's absolutely nothing in the game world, no signs absolutely anywhere, and the death counter on the majula stone shows a small number

supposedly, anyway

i'm pretty sure anything apart from making your stats impossible for you level is safe
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>>168708880

Oh, I used Blessed Weapon for Aldrich. Darkmoon was mostly against Dragonslayer Armor, the Princes, and SoC.
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>>168709015
Never used it, but i heard that sharp 13/60 outdamages refined 40/40
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>>168709015
Crow quills are one of the few weapons where a refined gem will never ever out-scale a sharp gem. Even at 99 str/dex a sharp gem is better on them.
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>>168708628
Fucking gay they are so hard to get.
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get obliterated creighton fucking shit
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>>168709135
It's always pleasure
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>>168709135
I fucking suck at this game and die a lot and still sit around 35 Embers
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>>168708735
I feel your pain anon.
>have a few characters with multiple unwanted storyteller staffs without even trying.
>Make a character that will actually use it for WA abuse.
>Takes twenty damn runs to farm it for no reason
>Rage
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>100k souls
>can't spend them or I'd be overleveled
this happens too often
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>>168709135
>they are so hard to get
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So now that the dust has settled, what system is better?
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>>168709262
Try having 1.7 million
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>>168708391
Listen here you inbred piece of raw baboon ass, first off you need to step back and deal with whatever fucking issues you have with assuming everyone is some greatsword user trying to get you. I play with straight sword and greatshield for sunbro invasions and maximum annoyance, so fuck off with raging at me because I asked why you can't fucking parry people.

What the fuck are you even running if you can't afford to carry a parrying tool? Did you just come here to fucking whine about your inability to adapt to the metagame or some shit?

Parry them
Outtrade them with an Ultra Weapon
Flip them with Stomp arts
Get a decent shield and watch them waste stamina on you
Perseverance bait them
Trade with a bleed weapon

All are viable strategies to use against people who only come at you with a greatsword or halberd except maybe the shield because they all run with 40 fucking endurance.
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>>168709135
co-oping (easy) or invading (hard or easy depending on if you're an absolute mad man or not) are the best renewable sources of embers in this game
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>>168709258
i finally fucking got it. from 0 to 33 thousand souls with ONLY corvid killing. god damn.
but now we scythe.
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>>168708952
No, it really doesn't.
The other games aren't designed around this bullshit extended hitbox straight sword r1 spam that stunlocks all enemies and bursts down bosses while most other weapons allow enemies to escape and counter.

In particular, the weapons of DaS3 just aren't unique. You take a look at the whip, curved greatsword, axe, hammer, bow, crossbow, curved sword, greatsword, etc categories and you see what I mean.

N I N E bastard swords, F I V E of them boss weapons

DaS2 got hated on a bit here for copy pasting weapon moves onto other weapons to make them "unique", but that's still more than what DaS3 did.
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>>168709164
build?
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>>168709281
effigy
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>>168709281
humanity > rest
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>>168709281
Ignoring DaS2 shortcomings, the effigy.
You couldn't have 99 100% hp healing items, and it also didn't give host the advantage.
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>>168709262
>farming silver knights for darkmoon blade
>bought every ember, grass, titanite chunk, coins, lloyd, throwables and arrows til I couldnt store them anymore
>still end up losing almost 2,000,000 souls since I didnt know what to use on
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>>168709281
Ember.
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>>168709281
Humanity was pretty good, save for it being a healing item.
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>>168709281
i prefer the humanity system, since you need to survive all the way from the bonfire to the fog gate if you want to use summons for it.
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>>168709281
human effigy would help fix the ds3 darkmoon problem by making more hosts
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>>168707906
Why would you use cbv when you have chaos orb? I tried cbv, its like, 120 stamina per cast? Fuck this shit.
Unless you are pvp only fag, and even then...
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>>168709417
it's just vig and dex with 15 faith for replenishment.

mercenary starting class. I don't plan on going past 50.
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>>168709281
>Humanity
Locks off the vast majority of players away from online interactions. Requires a sit at the bonfire and a fairly long animation to revert. It's shit.
>Ember
Grants unnecessary HP boost and again locks off players from online interactions. It's shit.
>Stone of Ephemeral Eyes
Locks off players. Retarded HP penalty that limits everyone to using Cling Ring always and forever. It's beyond shit.
>Effigy
Doesn't lock off players. Doesn't ever have to be used. Can choose to keep yourself maxed or use them only when you're hurting for max HP. It's good.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12340990
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>>168709281
humanity and ember
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>>168709562
CBV is faster, does full damage immediately, costs less FP. Have you played since that change?
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>>168709281
Humanity was a more interesting luck mechanic.
Effigies punished you for dying too often, which in turn made them valuable
Embers are just something that's nice to have.
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>>168709281
Humanity, I dont like how Embers give the host an HP boost and the effigy system that reduced hp was annoying.
Humanity also had a cool icon.
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Is undead match dead or is SL65 +10 weapon too weird of a slot to find matches?
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>>168709393
Sorry anon, with a nigger knight and a chopstick (or just by spamming magic) I can invalidate nearly everything else you can try.

You can pretend some weapons still have a point somehow, but the truth is, you're just using something suboptimal and pretending it's good because it's more fun.
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Trying to get sir alonne to commit sudoku. I need to not heal, right? How low must he be?
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>>168709685
gwyndolin is a guy tho
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>>168704924
Bow
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>>168709909
What's your point?
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>>168709562
If you're going to avatarfag, at least use pretty ones
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>>168709909
/pol/ is that way, fuckboy
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>armor doesn't matter
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>>168709865
Have to kill him without getting hit at all.
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>>168710057
I just want to make your day brighter.
Also she is pretty, shut up.
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>>168710227
I think I just fought you

you were pretty good
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>>168710397
you were the nigger guy? GGs man
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>>168710308
WAT
please tell me you're joking, I can hardly kill him with no healing
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>>168709821
>you're just using something suboptimal and pretending it's good because it's more fun.
Yeah. In Dark Souls 3 and Dark Souls 3 alone, except for stupid shit like DaS1 whips.
I don't feel like I'm doing objectively worse for not using a ____ in any of the other Souls games including Bloodborne.

It's the fucking straight swords. Imagine BB if you only had the option to choose between saw spear, tonitrus, and boom hammer (without l1) It's what DaS3 feels like.

The straight swords stun bosses more easily than ultras. The quality straight swords do more DPS than pure FAI buffs. What's even the point?
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>>168709987
that makes him a husbando, not a waifu

>>168710070
>le /pol/ boogeyman
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>>168709685
>no painter
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>>168710461
No, I was using earth seeker
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So I'm about to give up on Dark Souls, it's officially become so hard that it's not even fun anymore.

After barely getting through Sen's Fortress with the snake men who are practically invincible and kill me in one hit, I get to Anor Londo and everything there is crazy aggressive and won't even let me heal. Even worse I am almost at the end of the game and STILL haven't found a single upgrade material for my weapon (found tons of Titanite but mine needs Dragon Scales and I don't know where to get those). So basically I'm stuck and just can't progress any further without literally running away from every enemy I encounter.

I also hear that the hardest boss in the game is in this area and if I can't even kill enemies in the area then I don't know how I'm going to stand a chance against it. So basically my only option at this point is to grind for levels.
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Anyone else thinks the Abyss Watcher Greatsword is pure sex? It feels so good gliding across the ground while swinging an ultra greatsword with one hand and then parrying people who try and go in for a running attack.
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>>168710482
It's true my dad works at EA.
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>>168710819
Guess it wasn't me you fought because I fought the same guy three times in a row and I think he was using a large club.
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>>168710828
If this isn't copypasta, stop using a slash weapon.
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>>168710828
Nice b8 out of 8. Got me to reply
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>>168709685
>no dancer
Delete this
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>>168710904
It would be great if not for all its R1s and R2s being parryable.
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>>168709685
>no creamfield
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>>168710490
In BB there's only Spear and Cleaver in the base game for PvE, everything else is worse. At best you can use things like charged R2 axe spamming as training wheels if you're too shit to mash r1 and l1.

The DLC doesn't add many better options nor enemies that prevent such tactics. However, both the base game and the DLC have many worse but more fun weapons that we PvE with because they're fun.

It is the same case for 3, 2 and 1. Your favorite weapon is likely a downgrade to playing the game optimally, but it's more fun. Please don't pretend that if you're playing DaS 1 or 2 to win and be efficient there are many options.
>>
Lately I've been having sound effect issues, like they cut out or something, for example when I sit in a bonfire and get up, the respawn sound plays ok but my footsteps sound fucked up

Anyone else has experienced this? and if so, how do I fix this shit
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>>168711101
gonna make a version without the disgusting trap and with other characters that are missing
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>input mapper stops working for some reason
>game glitches as steam recognizes my ds4
>shitty motion controls are enabled

Can someone recommend me another program that doesn't die randomly?
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>>168711271
wait up, collect some ideas first
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>>168711394
DS4windows or SCP driver package
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If ds3 rolling cost more stamina and had slightly less iframes, would the pvp be improved much? Because honestly, extreme passitiviy and hosts fleeing away during invasions are probably the most frustrating part of pvp. I really hope it might change, because people who don't want to fight can actually just keep on rolling and never get hit.
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>>168711614
2v1, 2v2 and 1v1 yes, anything with more players would be awful
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>>168711614
They game is balanced around the current rolls, mainly with bosses like ponty or champ. Any change regarding them is unlikely.
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>>168711526
I just put every female in the DS games, but the max is 30 per polls. Gonna take out some names, like the BB ones
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>>168711853
just make per game you fucking troglodyte
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/12365804
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12365804
http://www.strawpoll.me/12365804
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12365804
http://www.strawpoll.me/12365804

>>168712213
no need
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>>168711614
Agreed, its so fucking annoying watching someone roll 12 fucking times in a row to escape you. It either needs to cost more or there should be weapons with a fucking pancake attack that can hit you while rolling.
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>>168711219
>everything else is worse
No. You have the flat arc wheel, Ludwig's Holy 100 AR, blade of mercy untricked r2 beasthood / backstabs, Tonitrus, hunter tools, chikage, etc, all are as good or better.
Only the cane and kirkhammer are really worse than the saws.

>The DLC doesn't add many better options
???
Whirligig is a super saw that does everything that they do better.
Beast Cutter cheeses everything that can be stunned and along with Amygdalan Arm mow down crowds with ease.
Fucking Church Pick and it's super effective nature against absolutely everything and huge vertical range
Kos Parasite dishing out 800 damage dash r1s and 2000+ L2s
Bloodletter + frenzy runes
And so on

Saws are just starter weapons. They don't excel unless you've got nothing else.

>Your favorite weapon is likely a downgrade to playing the game optimally
Again, only in DaS3. DaS1? Great Club. Satisfying, acquirable early, can be maxed real fast, no farming, super effective.
DaS2? I have many, but they're mostly ultras. They do much more damage than just mashing r1 with a SS.
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Looks like Hub Girls are the best

All /dsg/ needs is a motherly figure
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>Stomp stamina consumption
What the fuck? Also, why doesn't upward slash have damage on the backswing? Looks like the sword is coming down with quite a lot of force.
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>>168712296
>No Ornifex
Fuck off
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>>168712296
>no lucatiel
One per game
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>Somebody actually picked Maiden in Black

Just a reminder: she loves a non-sapient tree more than you and dismisses you without a care at the end

She's a demon, you know
>>
Is there any range where Sentinels/Darkmoons get good activity yet?
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>>168712903
gtfo

>>168712920
oooh shit
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>>168712961
everybody knows shes a tsundere buddy

miyazaki confimed
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>>168712994
No. You missed the train. Hardly anyone invades anymore and for good reason. You could try waiting until the DLC.
>>
What's the deal with this DaS3 Dragon torso stone glitch ?
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B E S T
E
S
T
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>>168712296
Who the fuck is the painting woman?
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>>168709510
>>168709510
Anyone who answers anything but this is a faggot.
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>>168712296
Missing Ornifex, Kriemhild, Heysel

it's shit
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please tell me this hasn't been patched
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>>168713220
Well fug. I never even saw the train arriving at the station, and I was playing on release
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>>168713395
The only loli in souls and the key figure in the DLC questline.
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>>168713395
from DS3 dlc
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>>168713049
No, you get the fuck out. I demand you let me vote for my bird waifu.
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>>168712853
>design appeal of game to be weapon arts
>make weapon arts weak

>have opportunity to give unique moves to weapons that make FP worth leveling ATT for
>copy/paste weapon arts AND movesets everywhere

>give many weapons a damage buff weapon art
>nerf said weapon art's damage buff in pvp

>design weapons that are totally about their weapon art (paired weapons)
>severely reduce the damage, hits, and status effect application of said weapon arts

What did I mean by this?
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>>168713232
Music is cringey, but this video should explain it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EfIrnBB7YY
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>>168713535
>>168713551
call her loli them
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>>168713760
the game calls her painting woman
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>>168712426
None of those compare to just mashing with saws, that's how good they are, they are faster, safer and give huge damage for free. You can beat PvE with them, just like you can with worse weapons in 3.

The only weapons the DLC adds that can compare with them are pizza cutter (new bad player easy mode to replace axe charged weapons) and church pick(modifiers out of its ass).

There's a reason any speedrun uses saw even if some weapons you say are "better" would only add a few meaningless seconds to their routes.

In 1, I can just reset the game a few times and get a BK weapon (their drop rate with soft humanity isn't even low, of 30% with only 1 humanity) and plow through everything or if not feeling like farming, just run to gravelord GS then swap it later for something else. You can even pick lightning spear or just grab some pyromancies and dump everything in your flame early on. There's zero reason to use great club.
In 2, you either rush a strike hammer or rapiers then kill ornstein early for the counter ring, they'll even sometimes top ultras damages on certain enemies while counterhitting. There's no reason to use ultras.

The reason you DO have to use them, is personal preference, just like in 3, but they're not comparable to the best PvE weapons just like some weapons in 3 aren't comprabale to SS but still usable in PvE. You seem to not get how stronger some things can be in the other games.
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>>168712426
>tfw loved Murakumo in DS1, it just felt so good to use
>DS3's lazy discount Bloodborne bullshit made it much, much less satisfying
>>
Is Dark Souls 1 the greatest world-level design ever conceived in a video game?
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>>168713975
I dont remember Murakumo being in DS3, but I remember some "generic curved GS thats worse than the Exile in 40/40" weapons
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>>168714036
Right up until you get the lord vessel, sure.
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>>168714036
not really. game falls flat after killing ornstein and smoug
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>>168713817
She's actually called "The Painter" in the game files.
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>>168713748
>you will insta-guardbreak your opponent (who has 15 END and a small shield)
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>>168714257
that's like 80% in, though
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>>168714036

Play Metroid Prime you fucking casual
>>
>>168712903
>>168712920
>>168713467
30 is the limit
Who to take out?
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>>168714508
Yorshka

no one if gonna vote for her
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>>168714547
PERISH THE THOUGHT
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>>168714508
keep only the barefoot ones

no point keeping the others
>>
In ds3, what is a good sorcery to use early in the game?
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>>168714508
Rhea, Miralda, and Milfanito
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>>168714196
It's the "lighter with lower requirements but less AR" option to the Exile GS, Alva has it and drops it.
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>>168715134
soul arrow
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>>168715134
Spook
>>
NG+2 or wait for The ringed city?
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>>168715134

Great Heavy Soul Arrow is the best offensive sorcery you can get early game and throughout the whole game for PvE. There's no reason to use any other variant of Soul Arrow or Soul Spear. Farron Flashsword/Soul Greatsword might also be useful in dealing with smaller mobs.
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>>168715134
Magic weapon
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>>168715276

Over a month away. NG+2.
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>>168680748
Retard question:

I'm fairly new to using magic weapons on souls games and I'm now using the Greatsword of judgement (which seems incredible) using the 'charge' increases the damage, should I carry on increasing my intelligence? will that make it stronger when it's glowing? or am I better off just putting it on strength instead? I don't use any other magic, nor plan to at this point.
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>>168715463
Greatsword of judgment is quality / INT
You should go for 27 str 15 dex 40 int early on
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>>168715463
GSoJ isn't a pure INT weapon. INT, DEX, and STR are all equally important to it. The MLGS is similar but is a pure INT weapon.
>>
Sirris and rhe Fire keeper are the best waifus.
>>
>summoned at Friede
>host hasn't unlocked her yet
>wearing Fallen Meme/Arty leggings
>summons another phantom
>phantom leads host to the ropebridge and cuts it into the ladder
>starts going down
>host BCs me

What did he mean by this?
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>>168715171
>>168714820
>>168714547
>>168713641
>>168713467
>>168712920
>>168712903
http://www.strawpoll.me/12366094
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12366094
http://www.strawpoll.me/12366094
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12366094
http://www.strawpoll.me/12366094
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12366094
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>>168715463

Greatsword of Judgement is a Quality/INT weapon. Increasing your Intelligence will increase your magic scaling with the sword which is decent, yet the WA self-buff is a set amount that isn't affected by INT beyond having requirements to use the weapon. The majority of the non WA buff damage will be from STR/DEX scaling however which is why you should invest in those. A great GSoJ build for 120 is 27 STR, 40 DEX and 40 INT to get all damage softcaps when 2handed. With those stats it becomes the highest damaging greatsword in the game while the buff is active, and the buff is hilariously easy to keep active at all times.
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>>168715709
>one needs help countertwinking with DMB estoc
>the other has the personality of a cardboard box
No
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>>168714508
Pick a different site without a limit, fag.
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>>168715857
>>the other has the personality of a cardboard box
This applies to nearly all of them
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>>168715742
>takes out Yorshka to add the malformed grackle
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>>168715640
>>168715648
>>168715753


Damn, thanks guys. I always play the souls games pretty vanilla for some reason and I'm now only getting into magic properly. I might do a faith type character next time, or whatever you would call it. I don't do pvp but is it viable to be pure magic from the get go? I tried it once on souls 2 a long time ago and I found myself wanting/needing a sword at the same time, which was still fun. I was very new to these games back then though.
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>>168715857
DMB estoc is a joke compared to a vitgouged twink with a dragonslayer axe
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>>16871614
>takes out a malformed lizard to add a malformed birb
nothing of value was lost. or gained
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>get summoned as sunfag for champion gundyr
>gundy has a sliver of health left
>get bc'd out
Why the fuck do people do this
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>>168716140
>taking out a garbage waifu to add a superior one
I don't see a problem here
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so if i use CE to give myself a stupid amount of souls would i get banned?
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>>168716342
To get the full percentage of souls
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>>168716381
both are shit tbqhw/ufam. the birb is nowhere close to as thicc as depicted
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>>168716342
The host is either a huge dick or thinks you take a portion of his souls.
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>>168716342
all souls boyz
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>>168716458

No. Just item-swap SoGC in. You realize you can get millions of souls within half an hour legit by farming Golden Knights right? Won't draw up any flags.
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>come back to das3 after playing das1
>notice all the references to the first one
>newfound appreciation
>no summons in das1 forced me to git gud
>one shit all the bosses in 3 so far solo

feels good man
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>>168703071
>>168703629
meh, i did this test and the only interesting findings were that lost izlath and smouldering lake were CLOSE to each other.
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>>168715742
Why bother Lucifer is just gonna bot a trillion votes for priscilla like last time
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>>168715857
>Cardboard box
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>>168716164

In 3 being pure magic is 'viable' but boring and requires going through more effort than standard melee for not that much better effective DPS.

Talking just PvE, if you're doing sorcery your starting spells are garbage and you are better off just using a (Raw) Longsword/Broadsword until you beat Vordt. You'll notice your starting Soul Arrows take forever to cast and don't do that much damage for what they're worth considering how they root you in place. Once you beat Vordt run past Settlement and get through the woods until you reach Orbeck. Get him to Firelink and buy Great Heavy Soul Arrow from him and maybe Farron Flashsword/Soul Greatsword. GHSA is the most FP to damage cost efficient spell in the game and will be all you need for bosses while using the latter for trash mobs and whatever melee weapon you like. Get Heretic's Staff until you can get the Court Sorcerer's Staff in capital, and that's all for sorcery.

Miracles have a comparatively worse time due to Lightning Spear fall-off and how most of their offensive spells are locked behind end game content. There is an exception though that actually makes miracles better for PvE: Gnaw/Dorhys' Gnawing. These miracles inflict high bleed which is super good against most bosses in PvE. Get Gnaw from the Cathedral mimic tome and Dorhys' from the first part of Irithyll and watch as the game becomes a joke. For the few bosses resistant/immune to bleed Demon King and Armor you are going to have a tough time, the latter alone probably being the hardest for Faith builds. That's why you should have points in STR as well to use something like Wolnir's Holy Sword that scales well off both stats.

Pyros have the easiest time of casters. You get access to decent offensive spells off the bat and most enemies are weak to fire. By the time you get Great Chaos Fireball in Demon Ruins you've won the game essentially. For the few enemies resistant to fire you have dark pyromanices as well.
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>>168715742
>can only vote for 1

WHY
ARE YOU HITLER OR SOMETHING
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>>168716612
yeah but i'm bored of farming them now
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>Hawkwood has the Bastard Sword all game
>all of a sudden he uses the Farron GS at the end of his quest
Is there a reason for his switcharoo?
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>>168717112
He finally accepted his fate as an Abyss Watcher.
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>>168717112
He picks one up among the several dead abyss watchers probably
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>>168717112

Do you see where you fight him and what Hawkwood was saying the whole game? He abandoned the Legion and was ashamed for it yet when he wants to become a dragon for some reason he takes up the sword again and abandons his shield.
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>>168716956
having more than one waifu will ruin your laifu
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>>168717258
>for some reason he takes up the sword again and abandons his shield.
That's why I was asking.
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>>168716746
Keep it up man
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>>168716956
What are you, stupid?
Do you cheat on your waifu, nigger?
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>>168717551

I meant he wants to become a dragon for some reason, he takes up the Farron GS to embrace the legacy of his brothers in the legion when fighting among their dead.
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>>168717435
>implying having a waifu doesnt mean your life is already ruined

You neets and your delusions are a delight.
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>>168717575
she cheats on me too so is ok
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>>168717112
>"We did it [ASHEN ONE]]... I have finally become... Farron Legion™...
This line felt kinda out of place
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>>168717672
>>168717672
>>168717672
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>>168717632
my waifu gives me purpose
can you say the same
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Who wanna invade some tresspassers in the name of aldrich?
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>>168717713
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In ds3, what is a good sorcery to use early in the game?
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>>168717976
soul arrow
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>>168717809
>no Great Sunlight Spear
>bleed resin
LEAVE
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>>168716470
>>168716530
>>168716547
Except it doesn't even work that way anymore.
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>>168716940
Cheers for the info m8.
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>>168688907
So a Match right?
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>>168683691
This.
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