Roguelike General - /rlg/

First for Actaeon

so, they got rid of rolling for stats in poscheng, didn't they?

a fucking stag?

>>168620737
Yeah it was replaced with point-buy.

You can still get random starting stats (along with random race) if you pick the "real life" option.

Hey PCB-R guy, are the major changes in that fork optional? Like you can toggle whether to have them on or off in the options screen?

>>168622421
One of the major changes in PCB-R is reduced XP requirements for levelgain across the board, and IIRC there's no option to toggle it off.

Don't you fault on me, goddamnit.

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>>168620320
post the image too fampai

>An Olympian goddess
>A literal FUCKING STAG
>the stag is more popular
Demon is truly the thinking man's game

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I'm going to miss my telepathy boots.

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>like zoiks scoob

Is there a way in Crawl to set a macro for Z -> Enter -> Enter?

>>168626370
>being perma-friendzoned by some slut that bitches all the time
>riding A FUCKING STAG into battle while listening to the lamentation of your enemies' women

>>168628340
What action are you trying to achieve?

>>168628781
z-> enter re-casts the last spell you cast

>>168626769
Yes but on the plus side now you have six (6) arms and what I assume are an awesome set of titties.

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>>168626769

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Aww yee, thanks Brodda

How good do I have to get to get sponsors for playing crawl

>>168629101
Why can't you just press "~"?

If a unit is banishment to the abyss in crawl do I get XP for it?

>>168630691
yes
you get at least half xp, plus a bonus based on how much of its hp is missing

>>168630691
You get 50% the XP plus 1/2 x its HP percentage.

>>168630815
>>168630843
Alright thanks cause I found a distortion whip on floor 2 and its been banishing crap left and right. But holy crap that damage.

>>168630843
*its _missing_ HP percentage

>>168630691
no you need to get banished and hunt that fucker down now that he's escaped

>>168630974
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/DChimera/morgue-DChimera-20110511-230620.txt

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Fixed the telepathy with an otherwise useless amulet, though now I lose my combat ring for rElec.

Life was much simpler when you could chill in the wall as a quasit.

>>168629356
I'm disappointed they lose the cloak slot, I had a retaliation one saved up.

>>168618419
Oh
I thought those were all the same character.

>>168631121

>73551 | Pan | Entered the realm of Cerebov.
>73908 | Pan | Reached skill level 12 in Charms
>73959 | Pan | Noticed Cerebov
>73971 | Pan | Defeated Cerebov
>73973 | Pan | Mong: Banish Cerebov!
>74028 | Pan | oh god i should have gotten the abyssal rune first
some time later, he escapes from Pan via distortion unwield
>75014 | Pan | You are cast into the Abyss!
>75014 | Pan | Cast into the Abyss (distortion unwield)
>75014 | Abyss | Entered The Abyss
he escapes, goes to the lair, learns CBlink, and then goes back into the abyss
>75742 | D:22 | You pass through the gate.
>75747 | D:22 | phew
>75994 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 7 spell: Controlled Blink
>76431 | Abyss | cerebov im going to murder you
>76546 | Abyss | Identified the cursed +6,+6 Sword of Cerebov
>76546 | Abyss | Slain by Cerebov

>>168631383
Passwall's such a tease.

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Papa okaw just granted his first gift yep ive been training maces this whole time. Is this the run?

>>168634289
it's not an eveningstar/10

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Well it was well times and its strong for so early. Right after I got it I had to kill 3 ice dragons which landed me some ice scale armor and this treasure trove of 400 gold, amulet +reflection and a few rings including a +3 dex ring and a +6 int ring.

>>168634289
>holy
>in lair
useless/10

well it's still a +9 greatmace at least

>>168635073
Think I should switch it to a +7 morinstar of protection?

>>168635747
nah, not unless you're already invested in shields

just don't post about how this is an AMAZING FREEWIN ARTIFACT
newbies often fall into the trap of thinking that artifacts are automatically best-in-class, but this is worse than a regular greatmace with a useful brand
having a greatmace is still *nice*, but a greatmace of freezing would do a better job except when you're fighting enemies who are explicitly weak to holy (demons and undead)

>>168635980
Im heavily invest in shields by im antman so it doesnt matter. I didnt realize holy didnt do damage to non evil monsters. I actually did get a freewin artifact once at the same time okaw I was a vinestalker and it was a vampiric eveningstar

the mace does mean you'll have a real easy time in Crypt later on, though
and you could try extended, but that's tricky as a ant

>>168636438
Man I always forget to do the crypt.

>>168629697
Aw yeah you're playing true vanilla
go for it anon!

In response to the PCB-R guy last thread and his conversation about how to manage energy randomization:

I can appreciate what you're saying about wanting to have a random element so that a player can't have 100% control over every situation by simply being fast enough. However as other anons have pointed out getting double-rocketed or mana-stormed is particularly unfair and unfun.

As a quick-fix solution, you could simply implement a rule that says no enemy can cast the same spell (or breath or other effect) twice in a row. As a better long-term solution however you could write something that detects double-turns in enemies due to energy randomization, and set a rule limiting actions based on that information, to prevent unfair spamming of ultra-powerful attacks.

>see a guy playing merfolk
>puts all stats into DEX
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

isnt this bad?

>>168641309
What kind of setup is it? It'd make sense for a stabber or any sort of stealth-oriented character. Dex is also how you get more of an EV boost from Dodging.

>>168641751
Sure but isn't the bonus damage and reduced armor EV penalty (and required armor skill) better than bonus accuracy and a little EV?
He's a glaive-wielding tabber with a legion of undead from Yred.

>>168641916
That's right.

But Merfolk have a pretty bad Armour skill aptitude, so I guess he might have just concluded that Strength isn't worth it. Encumbrance is lessened by both Strength and Armor skill, and if he didn't choose a background that gave a Strength boost, it probably wouldn't have been worth the effort to dump stat points into that. I guess his plan is to accurately damage monsters from behind his summons, which will do a lot of the work.

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This is the most disappointing ring of power ever.

>>168642932
Time to submit a patch to remove archery bonuses from rings of power.

>>168642932
would be amazing on ranged character though
+4 pval extra shots is great

>>168642997
there are a couple randart ranged character dumps where archery rings of power ended up being really nice tho

>>168626370
I have yet to figure out a good use for Artemis's modifier. She herself is okay, though.

>>168642791
yeah but wouldnt like dumping all points on STR end up giving more damage overall despite more misses?
maybe im overvaluing AC

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and brave sir robin ran away

>>168643562
Yes and no. On one hand, you're definitely right that all Strength would do more damage than all Dex.

*But*, you have to remember that you can get a series of unlucky rolls -- unlucky in either damage or accuracy or both. Getting unlucky in a highly tense situation isn't good, even if you're not playing recklessly.

I do agree that Str is clearly the more important stat, but a little bit of Dex can lessen some painful RNG moments.

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That's a lot of dice for D:7.

>>168645059
oh yeah

>>168643562
yes
dex is more for the bonus EV
it also has an effect on stabbing if you're into that sort of thing

what have they changed, angwil is full of monsters now, i cannot even walk it peacefully!

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I think I'll leave this one for a while.

>>168636354
a regular vampiric eveningstar would probably have been better
it's not that it doesn't do damage, it's that it doesn't do extra damage

>>168647078
ironman_quests reasons dot jaypeg

>>168642932
Why would you reforge Narya anon?

>>168648571
he has randarts turned on anon

>>168647976
Imagine having talos with ironman quests on like, a mage.

>>168649371
ez
just summon up an army of archliches and have them tickle him to death while constantly summong more greater undead to joinin

wait does talos have a summon spell?
maybe the ol' cryptswarm strat won't work so well if he's summoning too

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It's so dumb I can't be mad

>>168647078
oh is baby waby anon scared of a widdle +5 speed monster now?
because you should be

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>>168652551
oh god that hurts me to hear

to those who don't realize, wild BoC is very nearly as good as it gets for melee chars...slap a +dice ring on it (ideally Vilya, The One, or some silly-good Wm combat ring that's rarer than those both) and go to town with your 4d30 or whatever hand of weapon damage

fuck

>>168649371
IIRC you can still skip ironman quests by paying the trump tower to teleport you down below their level
or maybe that's just for tome2 quests...

>>168653675
yeah you can, but it's crazy expensive

>>168628340
Yes, I believe you have to set it as a "raw macro" and enter it as z\{13}\{13}

I like tiles 'cause they're pretty. What's the prettiest Nethack tileset (for any fork that's easy to find and not buggy as all fuck)?

I'm curious...
Does anyone know the number of possible combinations of race, subrace, class and personality in PCB? including all the monster races, and things like combinations for dragon types and realms, grey wizard alignments, combinations of magical realms for all mage classes etc etc

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>>168626370
Say that to my Chthonic Artemis not offline and see what happens freybug

>>168655628
I do not know of anybody who has gone through and calculated/totaled it yet
and don't forget stuff like the various permutations of human/demigod/dragonian special racial feat choices

>>168643320
It's good for spamming revelation on her.

>>168655628
Well I know what to do when I get bored of splatting

>>168641250
It's not really a small change since last spell cast isn't tracked to my knowledge. I'd have to add that to writing savefiles probably, which would break compability.
Still, just outright removing RNG from energy won't do good.

It's tricky. I don't want to make game easier, but more fair. If it was more like AUTs from Crawl...

>>168655840
I'll have a good laugh the day someone manages to get a Well Fed Artemis.

>>168655628
there are 60 race choices (including draconian/demigod subraces)

there are 60 classes, including weaponmaster/devicemaster/warlock specialties but not counting mage realms

there are 14 personalities

but there are a few race/class combos that aren't allowed, like bloodless classes + blood knight, or centaur cavalry

>>168656498
or sexy male, lucky female
and the dragon realms are all kinds of weirdly specific

>>168656547
oh yeah I didn't list monsterraces there at all actually

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>>168655840
>dominator

>>168656547
>he doesn't play pseudoelliposchengband

Anon, do you still support bigoted and sexist implementation of personality choices? For shame. I'm calling my lawyer as we speak.

>>168657339
I variously use elliposchengband and pcb-r, so *I* get to ignore those restrictions, but they're still in the base game

>>168657457
They shouldn't matter for total character combinations, unless ordinary male human warrior is counted separately from ordinary female human warrior. Which seems silly since they are identical except for two letters on the character sheet.

Similarly all the mage types should only count distinct first realms as the other can be changed in game.

>>168657834
original asker, don't worry about gender, and unless there are some races/classes that aren't allowed to have certain personalities then maybe don't worry about those either, because that can all just be a multiplier at the end.
In fact if I'm right about all that, there are 13 male and 13 female personalities, meaning if just the race/class/subrace/realm/other dickery can all be worked out, that number can just be multiplied by 26 for a final total

>>168657834
they're not quite identical, since there are some items that care about a character's sex. At the very least, the sexy swimsuit base item type and the cloak of the heavenly maiden artifact do, and I wouldn't be shocked if there are others.

What stat are marilith's spell cast rates based off off?
It feels like there's so much info missing. Feels weird.

>>168658274
can a ring be male or female, and therefore sexy?

>>168658554
What's different about the cloak?

>>168658768
everything can be either gender
except Tanar'ri. Mariliths are always female so male Tanar'ri get a gender bender when they hit level 40

>>168658884
for men it carries aggravation

>>168658756
Taanar'ri is int based so Idl assume they are too

>>168659181
Still counts as two though, because the earlier races can be either gender, so in that case the 26 multiplier still holds true
Even if you argued against it, would I be right in thinking that the marilith is the only race capable of being a lucky female?

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>>168658756
The character creation screen highlights your casting stat in pink. You can see for tar'ri that it's int

this isn't exactly perfect though. 'm'agic all uses one stat, but p'O'wers can scale with any stat. a wild-talent might find himself with a strength-scaling android raygun, an int-scaling telepathy buff, and a dex-scaling poison dart

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Chris would never let this happen.

>>168659918
Anyone can potentially sexchange if they spend enough time around chaos/toxic waste or find an item that activates for self-polymorph
well maybe not androids

>>168622421
>>168622515
Could one of you anons link me to the poschengband r download? I cant find it. also what are the major differences? Is it easier?

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>>168660089
sure he would, I've found d3 !XP before in pcb
also androids
and sometimes non-androids with demon patrons get gifted a levelup upon levelling up, I saw one person get a lucky chain of 3 at once

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>aggravates
th-thanks

>>168658274
I made an attempt.

Counting only first realm choices:
Force-trainers and monks have five realms.
Priests and paladins have four.
Mage and yellow-mage have 11.
Blood mage is 10 (no life).
High mage has 12 (hex)
Grey mage has 3.
Chaos-warrior has 2.
Rogue has 6.

There are 20 banned classes (two centaurs, two tonberries, and seven each of blood knights and blood mages).

Monster races:

I get 39 non-dragons, counting the three final hound forms separately.

13 dragons that can pick a realm * 6 realms all can pick + two crusade dragons + two death dragons + steel = 83 dragons

So 122 monster combinations unless I accidentally the math, which is likely.

>>168659918
Mimics and possessors can start out as a lucky male and take on a female form.

>>168660328
based dasai
the huge AC is actually really good, but yeah probably not enough to be worth aggravation plus losing your current body armor properties

sometimes it's useful, but mostly it just makes for absurd randarts because of how the game values the high enchantment

How to beat Pan/Hell as TSO melee worshipper:
1) Enter level.
2) Summon angelic allies. Two or three.
3) ???
4) Take rune.

Even though Torment can still fuck your shit up, having a squad of angels that both confound and super-effectively hit your target makes this easy-peasy.

And of course, motherfucking Cleansing Flame: the endgame's most powerful panic button.

C E N T U A R
A
V
A
L
R
Y

FR: "centaur cavalry" monsterrace

Wait, there is no real life option in pcb R? I want some rng in my life

is there a list of major differences between pcb r and pcb?

>>168663457
>>168660271
could you give me an answer potentially? is pcb-r a fork? if it is i can't find it anywhere

>>168660271
>>168663865
https://github.com/floatRand/PoschengbandR

>>168663980
thanks

What's better on a vine stalker berserker a rapier of speed or demon blade of freezing?

>>168663824
There's a changelog: https://github.com/floatRand/PoschengbandR/blob/master/PCB-R%20changelog.txt

I don't think it was complete even when it was new.

>>168664082
Demon blade

a short blade of speed can only tickle people

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc4efd4d51a2afb41bb7741c9391f6a292ca4d44

Noise meter for the HUD added to trunk

Seems kinda neat. I'm kinda salty that it replaces gold in the HUD, though, but I guess it's not the end of the world.

>>168664230
yeah, i am reading it and it's very sketchy

how is it related to mpa-poscheng?

also
>Pseudo-id property on items has been replaced with automapping-property. Stones of Nature automatically gain this.

does it mean you have option to auto-id everything on sight whatsoever?

*you have no option

>>168664510
Gold is going to be removed soon, anon. Shops will be replaced with scrolls of acquirement.

>>168664563
mpa-poscheng became elliposcheng and then pseudoelliposcheng has some more modifications on top of that, mostly minor bugfix changes

PCB-R has the changes from those three as well as a set of more significant gameplay-affecting changes

in pcb-r the easy_id option gives auto-id from level 1 IIRC

>>168664082
Demon blade would be better 99/100 times. I'm actually struggling to think of a time where the 3 auts per swing would truly matter when it's on such a weak weapon (besides early game).

>>168664563
Easy ID gives you automatic *ID* at XL25.

>>168665171
in pseudoellimpa
in -R it's at XL1

easy_id is cheating though, i was talking about the default serttings

>>168665354
-R gives auto-pseudo-id from xl1 even with easyid off

>>168665136
It does the same thing pseudo (and elli?) did, with automatic pseudo-id from 1 and evolving into a stone of lore at 25.

>>168665354
reading any spoilers or source files whatsoever is also cheating, and far more significantly so

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Hey guys, are there any roguelikes where I can play as a badass minotaur, tanky but can hit hard too. and most of all be super cool with the ladies, but that last one's probably pushing it.

>>168668056
Minotaur berserker in DCSS.

>>168668056
tiona has no boobs and is a guy, am i right?

What roguelike is best for altering leather?
Dungeon Awl Stone Soup

What roguelike involves lots of travel?
Dungeon Trawl Stone Soup

What roguelike is legal for medical purposes in certain US states?
Dungeon Crawl Stoned Soup

What roguelike is most like vinegar?
Dungeon Crawl Stone Sour

What roguelike lets you play as a wolf?
Dungeon Crawl Stone Loup

What roguelike has extremely poor handwriting?
Dungeon Scrawl Stone Soup

What roguelike involves digestion?
Dungeon Craw Stone Soup

What roguelike is most Irish?
Dungeon Crawl O'Soup

What roguelike is a Communist plot to take over modern music?
Dungeon Crawl 12 Tone Soup

What roguelike lets you say hello?
Dungeon Crawl Stone S'up

What roguelike is most ethical?
Dungeon Rawls Stone Soup

What roguelike makes you really angry and is extremely unpleasant to play?
Dudgeon Crawl Stone Soup

>>168669270
No actually. That's not even porn.

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>>168669504
>That's not even porn
dropped!

>>168669504
they're totally looking at the minotaur's dick in the last panel though?

>>168669826
whoops you're right.
>>168669620
sorry anon I lied to you

>>168668056
C:DDA

>>168664901
Can't tell if you're trolling or not, cause this honestly sounds like the sort of thing the Crawl devs would actually do.

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Booyah. First 15 rune win.

http://pastebin.com/raw/A6kkJEfz

Mixed feelings about extended. I guess I didn't get the "true" experience, being a TSO user, so it was actually kind of fun. There was a fuckton of stuff to do, though.

>>168672110
grats!

Whats the best weapon type? In my super early days I used Axes but these days ive been using maces.

>>168672480
falcon swords
*only applies if you are a tonberry
*why would you pick any race other than tonberry though

>webtiles UI is completely fucked
thanks devs

>>168669620
asanagi amazon

>>168672480
>2h
Maces 3 rune
Axes 15 rune

>1h
maces

Been away since tourney. What has been removed since then?

>>168674098
All rods
Wand of Healing
Wand of Teleportation
Wand of Slowing
Wand of Hasting
Haste spell
Repel Missile Spell
Spirit Shield from Hats
High Elves
Potions of Cure Mutation
Potions of BeneMut
UC transformations from Xom
Wand Acquirement
Hill Giants

>>168674312
>Wand of slowing
Wow fucking bullshit. For real?

>>168674098
Fun doesn't result in tactical situations so it was removed

>>168674446
So are wands just relegated to hydra killing now? What do you get instead of rods? It sounds like evo got absolutely wrecked. Are muts fully transient now? Is bear spirit gone? That was my absolute hatfu.

>>168674098
Beef jerky and pizza are gone (but all food takes one turn to eat now).

Wands of disintegration no longer destroy terrain.

>>168674312
Disc of Storms is also gone

>>168674687
>Are muts fully transient now?
No, !curemut and !benemut are all a part of the standard potion of mutation.

!mutation cures 2 to 6 of your mutations, then gives you 1 to 3 random mutations, and then gives 1 good mutation.

>>168674687
+ Wand of Clouds (As rare as old yellow wands)
+ Wand of Scattershot
+ Rod of Lightning (XP evoker replacing Disc of Storms)
Potions of Mutation now remove 4-6 Mutations and then give you 2-4 mutations
Bear Spirit is still in

>>168674890
sounds cool
do they drop often?

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>>168674890
Oh. I assume they still have the same weighting cmut had?

>>168675083
Began with the combined old weight, reduced by 1/4 now

>>168674985
>>168675083

They're fairly common. They're currently as common as potions of might, for instance.

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ballin as fuck

>>168674312
have they even added something instead

also
>Wand of Healing

nani? what about deep dwarves or they are gone too long ago?

Overall, these changes are pretty OK I guess. Muts seems kind of dumb, but is a really nice balance between "literally never mutate yourself on purpose ever for maximum tacticool gameplay" and "quaff xom's juice". Rip all the old busted wands, especially disint. Anything new or exciting get added besides fancy new damage only wands?

>>168675405
Too bad you went Makhleb.

>>168675489
Shitty scarfs which are 0AC cloaks that can have rC+, Spirit or rc+ rf+
Some rods became wands
some shitty frogs that have the stats of ghouls but get a free semi controlled blink

>>168675660
scarves can also have repulsion for rmsl

>>168675489
>what about deep dwarves
They reworked them. They now have a "Heal Wounds" ability that has a 1/4 chance of permanently lowering MP by 1.

>>168675660
Barachian stats were buffed to 9 Str, 8 Int, 7 Dex very recently.

>>168675727
and what if your mp is 0?

dcss isn't adom and you can't train your mana back...

btw, have they even added anything new to adom for the recent year or so?

>>168675727
>buffing a species with FREE BLINK
wtf

>>168675819
racial stats dont really matter all that much

>>168675501
>Anything new or exciting get added besides fancy new damage only wands?

At the moment, not really, although there are more plans for big stuff by the time 0.20 is officially released.

Ignition got some attention as a cool new Fire spell. And there have been quite a few GUI and housekeeping fixes (HPRegen and MPRegen are visible from the % menu, for instance).

>>168676287
>although there are more plans for big stuff
Like what?

>>168675816
>and what if your mp is 0?
then you're shit out of luck, just like if your wand was empty and your mp was 0 before the change

>>168676707
You could always use scrolls of recharging before

>>168669826

y-yes.... they definitely are!

>>168676768
tfw you will never get to look at an errect 30" minotaur cock

>>168675816
>>168676754
The actual changelog is more accurate with it, but the DD ability basically "rots" your MP. You can still increase your base MP by training Invocations/Spellcasting, but it'll never grow back.

>>168676943

/rlg/ is lewd today

then you will say tfw you will never feel how it shapes your insides or something

>>168677156
tfw you will never be a little girl sent on a quest to save the world and forget all about that as you settle down in a minotaur tribe

>>168676446
https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.20_plan

* Not quite an addition, but bumping up Desolation of Salt from a fairly rare late-game portal to a fullblown branch, similar to Spider's Nest in the past.

* Two new portals: Oubliette and Gauntlet.

* Ieoh Jian, a new god with some interesting mechanics: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22336

* Pakellas potentially coming back.

* Though they're based around removing luring as a game mechanic, the additions of bezotting and a time/"doom" clock could be coming.

>>168677263
>Jian went from cool concept to boring UC only shit

>>168677263
Desolation of Salt always seemed like a death setence to every non axe user to me
It has a cool idea with the clouds but then they add a ranged support shitter that makes it all go away and you just get swarmed right away

isn't lucky strictly the best pcb personality?

did pcb r affect it? iirc marvin's pcb already made it gender independent but i dunno if it was nerfed or not

>>168677417

stop being bad lol

>New item type: Scarf

dcss, lol

>>168677929
Seems fine, its just dumb that they cant spawn as artefacts

>>168678042
they already spawn with rC+ rF+ what more do you want

>>168669460
have a (You) for effort

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>>168677452
Yes, lucky is strictly the best. The others would be nice if they didn't have horrifying drawbacks like increased chance of fear or reduced life rating or garbage device skill.

>>168678850
how is munchkin balanced

>>168674694
>Wands of disintegration no longer destroy terrain.
Let me guess, they still kept in those deep elves with that awaken earth spell, which was made solely for the purpose of nerfing killholes
fucking braindead retards

>>168679203
but digging is still in

>>168677263
>doom clock
Does that mean we will be forced to speedrun?

>>168678929
it isn't
it gives you 1,000,000 gold to start with, the best bonuses to all stats, 150% liferating, and i think some other shit as well
but it reduces your score to 1 point

i'm not really sure why it's a personality and not a birth option

>>168678929
How are MiBes balanced?

>>168678641

rF+++ rC+++ rN+++ Str+6 Regen+ Int+6

>>168679463

Inability to use spells. It's quite balanced

>>168679239
I thought they removed that

>>168677156
holy fuck I spontaneously laughed out loud at reading this

why do you still play these shitty games

>>168680649
for fun
also 'tism

>>168680649
I haven't actually played a roguelike in several months now. I'll probably give Demon a couple runs when the new update hits. Also I'm feeling an itch for DCSS too

Has anyone played Omega? I am a huge ADOM fan so I started trying it out tonight. It seems cool but is it cool enough to take probably 100 hours to learn how to play it? Some of the key combinations seem a little obnoxious and that could get tedious.

So far I've managed to join a bunch of guilds, buy some stuff, do some arenas, and then I go in the sewer after the oracle and make a few levels down and die. I think last time I stepped on some disc thing and it asked if I want to go up, down, or neither, and I said neither and then a ghost trapped me in a corridor, spooked me, and I couldn't do any actions and died.

>>168677340
Is it different from what's listed in that topic?
As far as it reads there, he still has all the weapon effects.

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Hi I am Tanar'ri. Hi am from abyss.

I come to slay Serpent in your pcb but tall bully me. I am in your pcb for many many Time, but I no enjoy all.

Why you mean? When will stop say please?

Sorry for my question. Bye bye Serpent.

Tanar'ri

>>168681915
question
as a marilith do you have 2 boobs or 6

>>168682001
2
but 6 shoulders

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This is so weird.

Just d/led DoomRL for the first time.
What should i expect? Any tips for a beginner?

Wait what the fuck
where's the minimap

It's almost 5 a.m. /rlg/ time. Do you know where your pets are?

>>168685327
it's 2am
and my pets are probably asleep

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WHY IS THE MINIMAP UNDER THE DUNGEON SCREEN
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS

>Enemies aren't highlighted on the right part of the screen
>minimap is under the character
Did I fuck something up or is this just how trunk rolls these days

>>168685294
expect doom

>>168685612
They fucked up by adding a noise meter
wait until they fix it

>>168680649

what is fun

>>168685408
Zoomout?

Whats some roguelike thats easy to get into other than DCSS?

>>168687183
sil
adom
tome4

>>168687103
nah, it just keeps staying under the dungeon no matter what. They just fucked up trunk for the moment as >>168686051 said

>>168687183
Demon has pretty great user interface. It's still in alpha development but I can't think of a more modern UI in a roguelike.

Doom RL is good too.

Why isn't there a Roguelike with hexes?

>>168689304
Oh i see, good to know then

>>168690653
But there is.

Who was the first "person" to introduce breeders? I need to talk to him.

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Do you play console roguelikes such as izuna and others?

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i mean game console

http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=cc4efd4d51a2afb41bb7741c9391f6a292ca4d44
can someone summarize that for normal people

>>168693693
>>168694014
90% of console roguelikes just put you back into town instead of giving you a game over and thus arent roguelikes

Are we going to ignore the elephant in the room?
What does the Orb of Zot even DO? Why do we need it?

>>168694718
It must be really important since you have to play DCSS to get it

>>168693482
the guy that developed rogue

>>168687183
mobile roguelikes are usually easy to get into

>>168665354
Easy id just makes the early game grind longer

>>168687183
Pokemon dungeon mystery!

>>168694451
That commit allows you to know roughly how loud the noise you're making is without code diving.

>>168686626
baby don't hurt me

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So something called "The Curse of Yendor" released on Steam.
Anyone played it?
OMG it's like Rodney backwards!!!11

>>168696421
>tiles

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>>168696545
Great input, bro.
Liked and scrubsibed.

can someone fix webtiles please

>>168693482
>>168694975
There weren't any breeders in Rogue though?
Prob Moria was the first if it's not Rogue

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>>168696421
Anyway just pirated it and playing it right now.
It does some interesting stuff and at least plays a bit differently.
I'm noticing a few Elona tiles here and there. :^)

>>168697152

It should stay broken, Crawl is dogshit anyway. How can anyone play a game for extended periods of time that's only about pressing 5+otab and walking away until you die due to accumulating boredom?

>>168678042

They can spawn as randarts though?

Bribe Branch is really good. I just cleared Dis as a SpEn^Gozag. Dispater died to his own Hell Sentinels (with some backup from Haunt ghosts). Also potions while in Lichform. Gozag best god for Spriggans.

If I were a dev I'd remove Sigmund.
That'd show em.

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I hate spitters.

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>get rekt by spitters
it'd really suck if I stepped on a mine right now, it'd probably kill me
>almost step on a mine five minutes later
whew, thank goodness I was paying attention
>step around it, shopping cart is dragged onto it, it explodes
ow, well at least I'm still alive; thankfully I don't have to worry about monsters because I'm in a faraday shark suit, so it'd take something like a Brute or Hulk to hurt me
>a Jabberwock shows up
I am my own fault

>>168701130
The point of scarves is to give rMsl to MiBe. The rest is just bloat.

>>168703482
Wait, so are scarves a new slot entirely?

I saw an artifact scarf today
To see if I still feel

>>168704096

They go in the cloak slot

>>168704485
so what makes them different from cloaks

>>168704538
0AC

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I survived! Lost the cart though.

>>168704538
According to what other anons have said about it up:
0 AC, chance for that robe brand that gives rC+ and rF+ at the same time, and a RsMls brand like that one amulet.

>>168704538
They're MuMo-Friendly

>>168704845

*and* always enchanted

>>168704845
>>168705041
>>168705101
sounds an awful lot like bloat

Hello Anons. Does anyone still play Furyband here? After splatting for the umpteenth time in Poschengband I'm feeling some *band content that isn't quite as Poschengy. Would Furyband scratch that itch?

>>168705739
no

Is furyband the one where you can get like seventeen attacks per round?

>>168705739
I love reading about furyband misadventures but haven't played it

What are the actual weights for scarf egos
Feels like 80% rC+ 9% Spirit 9% RMsl and 2% Resistance

>>168706101
and +1000 weapons
and gas mobs in glass chambers

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>>168706101
>he only gets seventeen attacks in fury

>>168706285
oh god what is wrong with that fucking font

>>168706285
Holy. Hell. I heard previously that Furyband was like SlashEm Extended but... I dunno I guess I thought that was an exaggeration

>>168706354
>The Kerning Elemental breathes!

>>168703293
Why are you playing with tiles if there are no tiles?

>>168706185

return random_choose_weighted(3, SPARM_COLD_RESISTANCE,
1, SPARM_SPIRIT_SHIELD,
1, SPARM_RESISTANCE,
1, SPARM_REPULSION);

>>168706285
I really hope that doesn't show each "You hit" separately.

>>168706504
Same size for every letter is usually good
The actual letters are the problem

>>168706614
so 1 in 2 for rC and 1 in 6 for the rest?

>>168705739
Furyband has the same approach to content as PCB, but it's much less balanced- in the favor of the player, that is. It's fun but playing it won't increase your e-cred.

>>168706101
No, it's the one where you can get as many attacks per round as you want, you continually overflow your HP integer by accident, and oneshotting everything in melee gets so tedious that you learn a spell that oneshots everyone within your line of sight.

>>168706614
>SPARM_
ugh that sounds horrible

>>168706546
Didn't realize that it was so bad when I started using it and I haven't bothered to switch back yet

>>168706870
>It's fun but playing it won't increase your e-cred.
Who even plays roguelikes to increase his e-cred
how is that even a thing

>>168707165
Ponyposter does, and he's the one that plays PCB exhaustively so I guessed that it was him.

>>168707260
elliptic and others love pcb too

>>168707260
>offline games
>e-cred
Anon please I'm just trying to achieve the true death and everything

my mumo win and the convict win though
those are e-cred
fo'sho

>>168707165
Basically all online DCSS players

>>168707490
I just prefer the webtiles HUD

>>168707541
>he plays on webtiles
What a causal, if you're not playing over SSH or telnet then you are beyond saving

But honestly I just don't like tiles and the webtiles interface lags like I'm playing from Australia. Remote console is the way to go for me. It's very convenient.

Is it fine to use distorition weapons early on? I found a Whip of distortion on D:2 so I was thinking of switching to Maces and Flails but I'm worried about losing XP and not gaining enough levels later on.

>>168707898
Bro.

>>168708295
distortion will literally get you killed by blinking centaurs and orc priests away

>>168672480
2 replies with answers for different games
you're the reason we can't have nice things

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Hm.

>>168660368
83 dragons sounds right, but the rest I'm not so sure. Also 83 dragons * 26 as discussed previously makes 2158 possible dragon combinations... and that's just dragons.

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Bribe Branch confirmed great.

>>168703293
This anon, he removed the bloat minimap.
Im proud.

When dual wielding (as, say, a marilith) is it better to stick with one-handed weapons forever, or are the penalties for things like executioner swords offset with enough strength or skill?

>>168710642
You should be able to bypass the dualwield penalties if you use a weapon and shield in each hand-pair.

>>168706778

correct, anon

>>168710642
Weapon weight reduces your overall dual wielding skill. Genji gloves will help with this, and for really heavy things you'll probably need some to have reasonable accuracy.

Assuming you have a weapon in both say, hands 1 and 2, that is. If you have a bigass sword in hand 1 and something else in 3, you don't use or need dual wielding.

Hi /rlg/ I hope you're having a good day stay unshitposted.

>>168694578
But you lose everything in your inventory and get busted back down to Lv.1 so it's essentially the same thing as permadeath

>>168711389
>>168711072
Thanks. I really wish this was better documented.

In ADoM should I go straight for the Caverns of Chaos after I complete the town dungeon or whatever it is called? (the one with the carpenter). Also how do I tell what kind of altar i'm able to use? whenever i try to drop id on an altar they just freak out on me and destroy the item half the time.

And finally a dumb question, i like the ascii more than the tiles i think. In ascii is there a way to tell what monsters are without looking at them? like how there's a visible monster window in Poschengband?

>>168713108
Altar colour corresponds to which alignment the god is. White/grey/black = L/N/C.

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>>168710039
We already knew that, silly anon

>>168705217
>>168704845
More accurately:

0 AC, cannot be enchanted (similar to quicksilver dragon scales). However, scarves are always found with an ego.

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For when aggravating once just isn't enough.

>wand of annihilation
That sounds fun. Too bad it'd be most of my gold.

>try a new roguelike
>no autoexplore button
>no "attack nearest enemy" button
Dropped.

>>168693482
YHVH

Are there any wizardry-like rogue-likes?

>>168716672
>no lua skills

>>168716830
Guild has sort of a Wizardry-like feel to it.

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>>168715846

>>168706989
Oh shit, I'm gonna sparm all over!

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I think artifact reforging may be a clever ruse.

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Antoria can be such a bully.

Well fed Kuchisake seems decent, albeit I'd figure Chthonic Kuchisake may be better.

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Eat my whole entire butt, Gozag.

>>168721589
3 resists + stealth on a ring is good. Gozag worshipers can easily afford those prices.

>>168720753
revive?

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Saw this screenshot of ADoM a couple of threads ago. how do you get it to look like this? my ascii game doesn't have any of the stats at the bottom or anything.

>>168696346
I was just about to post this

>>168723338
Healing factor is a great ability. I'd say it works better on demons than the PC, but it seems to do very well for beefy hand of dead characters.

>>168723363
I think the toggle's ctrl-n m, but should be in the options somewhere as well.

>>168723651
That worked. thanks anon!

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Angband summons.

I'm pretty sure dual wielding on a marilith would be a mistake, you already do loads of damage with three weapons.

>>168725175
Marilith is guaranteed Gauntlets of Mephistopheles as a drop (since he's their racial boss), so they probably want to take advantage of that and dualwield at least one weapon
the other two sets of arms should probably just be weapon+shield though

>>168690653
armo(u)red co(u)mmander

>>168725175
>bat encounters durian.png

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>>168721589

>>168726483
>unskilled

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>>168726749
d-don't worry, anon!
my butt may be unskilled now, b-but I'll learn for you!

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>>168669620
Go back to /svg/

>>168726483
>50 lbs of PUSSY and ASS

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neat

>>168733304
The X makes it look cool.

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Don't die!

>oh hey i actually managed to reach the lair without splatting as a Tr, neat!
>time learn blade hands!
>oh look a hydra, ill use my hands!
.............................

>>168735918
...So? Blade hands can kill a hydra pretty easily. Much more damage than it regenerates with regrowing heads.

>>168735918
>be a troll
>casting bladehands in lair
i dont think you understand how to play this videogame anon

or you just fucked up the abbreviation

>>168736576
Transmuter

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>>168736673
why would you play troll transmuter?
they're better off just dumping all their xp in UC

>>168736792
I wasn't a troll

>>168736981
>as a Tr
what did he mean by this

>>168737064
I meant that I fucked my abbreviation up, I was confirming that.

>>168736673
Transmuter's abbreviation is Tm, anon.

Species:

Centaur = Ce
Deep Dwarf = DD
Deep Elf = DE
Demigod = Dg
Demonspawn = Ds
Draconian = Dr
Felid = Fe
Formicid = Fo
Gargoyle = Gr
Ghoul = Gh
Halfling = Ha
High Elf = HE
Hill Orc = HO
Human = Hu
Kobold = Ko
Merfolk = Mf
Minotaur = Mi
Mummy = Mu
Naga = Na
Octopode = Op
Ogre = Og
Spriggan = Sp
Tengu = Te
Troll = Tr
Vampire = Vp
Vine Stalker = VS

Backgrounds:

Fighter = Fi
Gladiator = Gl
Monk = Mo
Hunter = Hu
Assassin = As
Berserker = Be
Abyssal Knight = AK
Chaos Knight = CK
Skald = Sk
Enchanter = En
Transmuter = Tm
Arcane Marksman = AM
Warper = Wr
Wizard = Wz
Conjurer = Cj
Summoner = Su
Necromancer = Ne
Fire Elementalist = Fe
Ice Elementalist = IE
Air Elementalist = AE
Earth Elementalist = EE
Venom Mage = VM
Artificer = Ar
Wanderer = Wn

so literally noone likes tengu right
they are never mentioned ever

>>168737538
i remember liking to play TeAE
except AE were always shit, and now they have no rmsl and are even more shit

other than AE you may as well just play elv though, there's no real reason to pick tengu

>no rmsl
i mean no rmsl and NO LIGHTNING SPIRE WHAT THE H*CK
air was the worst book BEFORE they took out its best spell

>>168737538
same reason nobody mentions felid unless they are making a epic joke

people dont like getting 1shot by worms

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this seems less than ideal

>>168737538
Literally flying high elves with dumb auxslot mutations

>>168737538
I like them for some reason.

>>168738952
>entropy weaver
Rip.. Just stair dance on the exit from there, ant soldiers should be too rough but rest is ehh.. Jus ttry to run out from entropy and isolate him and it should be fine

>>168739103
yeah i like birdtits too