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We Mabi.Pro Edition

This general is for discussing new and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals.

MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Popular foreign MMOs & MMOs in development
http://pastebin.com/iALuQdht

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Revelation Online: https://ro.my.com/en
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home
Ashes of Creation:
http://www.ashesofcreation.com

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Brown girls a shit
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shill thred
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Someone teach me the ways of getting paid to shitpost on 4chan
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>>168521806
Gas all Mabishitters. You guys are insufferable
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Are there any MMOs where you can steal from other players? Whether they are online or off doesn't matter. I find the thief role intriguing. So if anyone can recommend some good thieving MMOs please do.
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>>168524147
Gass them all!
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since mabimods doesn't have a good format for keeping older mod versions around, how am i gonna do shit like unlocking zoom in mabipro?
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I plan on playing NovaRO to scratch that nostalgia itch but it's been a very long while since I played a private server, is 25/25/10 close to the original Ragnarok rates? If not, what is the most popular private server close to the original rates?
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>>168525469
internet archive
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WHO CLOSERS HERE
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>>168526843
it is a very difficult game with a strong pvp community consisting of skilled individuals
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>>168526843
Considering it, but don't feel like wasting time.
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>>168524191
Rust
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>>168524191
EVE
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>>168527704
What's the PvP like?
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>>168529058
fun but same problems as elsword, p2p connection = lag
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>>168529058
If you've played DFO, a lot of things (movement dimensions, reliance on spacing, etc.) are pretty much the same as that

But you also have the ability to burst, anime fighter-style, meaning you can get out of combos every so often once it's off cooldown

One thing I've noticed that makes-or-breaks matches is whiff punishing, because against a good player if you whiff your super and don't have a spare burst to save yourself it's probably GG

HP seems to be pretty beefy though, rounds last a long time, and every match has two rounds to it so they can get pretty lengthy if both players are evenly matched

So far I'm not sure if I'd call it GOOD, but it's definitely at least fun
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>>168529521
Are standard Korean grind elements present?
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>>168529913
Well it seems damage scales if that's what you mean, so a low level will still be able to have an actual fight against a high level
The only difference there is skills you have access to, which is sort of significant but I've been trashing 45+s as a junior agent so not really

The PvE though, good god is it awful
I feel the PvP is good enough to make up for the slog that it is, but it's really boring and i've never run into a reason to even use hp/mp potions yet
and quests are generic fare too
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>>168529913
in PvE yes, but the grind in this game isn't too bad, plus the 300% drop rate + safe +12s make it very easy in this server
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>>168521342
Is this a game? I thought it was more like a chat room, like Second Life
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>>168531803
It's a farming simulator.
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>>168531803
It's a classless game for only greedy people to enjoy. With a lot of useless outdated shit like items, achievements and skills to collect. Despite this it works better in casual format and don't quite work for sitting here all day at all. Pls stop shilling it
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After this post, you can only post images of the best girl in their respective MMORPGs.
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>>168526843
>>168527704
>>168529521
Been out of the loop. Closers was localized?
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>>168536745
It's a private server, so it's all machine translated, but it's playable
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Is there any chance of /vg/ forming an albion online guild when it's fully released?
I'm looking at the current guild recruitment ads and some of them just remind me how much I really don't want to be on a team with normalfags.
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>>168537789
It's game for tablets man.
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>>168537789
No clue. Game looked pretty bad to me though. Honestly more interested in the two new Darkfall remakes.
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>>168537789
Make one
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Is there a guild in codeClosers?
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>>168541019
probably not
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>The Secret World
>2012 Release
>Currently $29.99

What the actual fuck

And i was so excited to try this game.
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>>168544473
I don't think there is a monthly after you buy.

I thought this was an interesting game but the story only seems real good for one, maybe two playthroughs and I didn't like the gameplay enough to really keep at it.
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>>168544473
g2a.com /the-secret-world-steam-cd-key-global.html
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>>168544473
>>168545042

Yes, the game is buy to play.

I've played it a little under 200 hours as pretty much one character and just got to endgame more or less. You can find dungeons surprisingly fast at the right time of day. But it is that kind of game where PvE raiding content is how you mostly advance your character past leveling and it's not perfect.
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First for cute rats
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>>168546287
i want a salad gf
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>>168541019
I saw someone with NoFunAllowed earlier but i haven't seen it shilled here.
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SHIT
JUST
GOT
MOTHER
FUCKING
DEADER
THAN
DEAD
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>>168524191
Rust, but that game is shit. It's almost impossible to build your way up because you get killed by faggots who already have guns while you're bare naked.
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Why is every game dead?
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>>168536831
>machine translated everything
that sounds awful
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>>168548770
It's private server, but hey nowadays even official translations are made this way!
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>>168524191
lineage 2 lets you do that pretty sure
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>>168548770
It's a simple game so unless you care about the story, it's good enough, the most important thing is item stats which are translated well.
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>>168549028
ToS was a fucking mistake
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>>168547072
Well non-4chan people know about 4chan's main guild name now. I recall being in a NFA in Elsword and some random person was like "that's the 4chan guild".
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>>168538471
>>168538709
It has good mechanics though, all about PvP and guild warfare.
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What mmos will let me forget the feels?
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>>168556671
Ones with a ton of grinding. Mabinogi has years of grinding and you can level forever.
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>>168556671
what feels are you having anon, talk to me

don't listen to the Mabishitter
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>>168557387
Why do you hate mabinogi ? Did it touch your no-no place?
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>check vindiworld
>they got hit with C&D by nexon
>server offline
rip
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WHY IS EXTREME VACUUM ON SORCERERS FORCES TELE ON MY PULLS

PRE RENEWAL IS FAIR
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>mfw I've been trying to like Crusader in d3 because of the aesthetic but the skills are all fucking weird to me

I have played Wizard a lot too and while it's fun I want to try something fresh. What's better for solo hardcore leveling do you think, WD or Barb?
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Why is /vg/ moving so fast today?
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>>168562554
barb spinner man is pretty fun
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>>168536745
Harpy isn't available on the provate server. Neither is Tina and the new girl with a big sword.
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>>168564234
Now I'm suddenly disinterested
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>just want a cute outfit in Mabi
>everything is 100m

Guess I'll stay in my ancient Bell Fox outfit.
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>>168564310
Just play someone else in the meantime sonce we've only got up to Levia.
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Guys, where's the RevPasta?
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>>168564234
prostate server
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>>168566565
He died like the bundle of sticks he was.
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>>168524191
haven and hearth
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>>168569946
I'm not russian though.
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>Vindictus
>hey guys you ready for a totally new raid?
>haha just kidding, go ahead and fight these two midbosses at the same time
God fucking damn it. They don't even have new moves, they just hit harder.
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So is Everquest 2 shit or?
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>>168571457
>they just hit harder.
I've always hated these. Increasing difficulty just means more HP and they hit harder. I want bosses to have new moves and shit.
It's why Dragon Nest got boring.
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>>168571457
have you killed best girl yet?
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Do talent titles affect what kind of quest you get or quest rewards you get?
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>>168575770
Life talents gives an increase in part time jobs.
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>>168548770
machine-translated dialogue is a treasure
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>>168576970
Cute boy.
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>>168576970
are you playing on low settings or is the game that ugly
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>>168577108
the latter

it looks a little better in motion but still nothing special
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D E D

E

D
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>>168580642
Just like my guild.
RIP Yotsuba.
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>>168580680
You should join me on Mari, where it's actually dead.
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>>168577108
looks like he isn't using any anti-aliasing to me
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remember when sto had its own general?
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>>168583237
remember when SWG, CoH and CoV weren't all shut down?
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>>168575659
I can't even try yet because I would have to run s3 story from the very beginning and I'm not going through all that because lazy/no time. Besides, I probably won't be able to contribute at all since my Delia is slow cause lmao no gear.
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>>168576970
Why subject yourself to that? No story you can read and garbled quest text that you have to discipher with herculean effort just to be able to progress.
Sounds like hell, I would rather wait for official version that will come out never.
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>>168553228
Yes the fight mechanics are good, but what I dislike is the fact that gear is basically treated as consumables.
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>login to new game
>create character
>choose a name
>every fucking name is already taken
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>>168583809
>unironically reading the story in any mmo

quests are easy since they have markers on the dungeons you need to do, no deciphering needed.
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>>168585667
>game get's dropped because its dead
>get picked up by a new publisher
>server transfer
>hardly anyone does it because game is dead
>go online
>make a new character
>2 letter names are up for grabs

Made 2 characters and named them Lo and Li.
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>>168588918
When will you get a real computer so you can stop posting in your phone?
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>>168589005
I post off my comp all the time. Don't ya see my ancient hunting pictures from
Mabinogi?
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>>168589770
When will you play a real game then?
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>>168589970
What's a real game? Also I'm playing FF9.
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>>168590309
FF9 is shit though.
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>>168590691
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time to afk in vindictus

please tell me lann gets better
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>>168590691
>FF9 is shit
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>>168593160
10 > 8 > 6 = 3 > 7 > 9 > 1 = 2 > 4 = 5
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>>168593970
>10best
Dude 10 was mediocre, X-2 was better tho but that isnt enough to get 1st spot.
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>>168592994
Lann gets better
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>>168594085
>10 was mediocre
Your face is mediocre.
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>>168594085
>>168594580
10 was my first FF and really enjoyed it. After 10 I played X-2, 12, 13,12, 7 and now I'm playing 9.
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>>168594993
I played 12, and it's my last FF. I didn't like the gambit system or the story. And I might be remembering wrong but it also didn't have an overworld.
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>>168595218
>gambit system
I loved that. Just set up my chars for anything and everything. Always had haste up and always hitting mobs like 5+ times in one action was the best.
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>>168595317
Which was boring. The game felt like it was on auto pilot.
But I can see the appeal for it. People like automation and setting it up perfectly and watching it work is a nice feeling.
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>>168595437
>setting it up perfectly and watching it work
The Best Feeling.
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>>168596665
>>168595437
actually, do you faggits ever try to build a freshwater aquarium with working ecosystem? It's a blast, shame I rent now...
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>>168597487
>build a freshwater aquarium with working ecosystem
Tell me more about it.
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>>168597487
>I want some punk ass fish as pets
Nah son. I want a dog or a bear cub.
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>>168598196
It's not that hard I suppose, was able to do it as a schoolkid, rip my old pics tho. It should be pretty big for being stable for months, we had a 30L one. Shouldn't be placed near window. Bacteria and light keep water translucent. The easiest grunt is nicely boiled pebbles from your local bank/shore. Water... for water it would be the best to ask for 2-3L of old water from someone's cycled working aquarium, not sure how to do it from scratch. Your main water should be heated to ~80 and left alone for 2-3 days for crap like Cl to evaporate. Then you pour your old water, some of the that another one for maybe 1/4 of volume and root your plants, they don't have actual roots, you just fix them in place with pebbles. Cover with glass light the light, maybe unleash some snails, wait. Meanwhile your super simple basic first try fishes like 10 guppies sit in a bucket to see if they are healthy enough. Water will be still crappy looking. Then put it all together, lights on, bubbler on, in one or two days water should stabilize to the perfect state. Done. We washed it from green crap like once per 6 months, complete with half-water changing, don't listen to fags who change water every given week, they do something wrong.
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>>168598854
The thing is light up greenery look comfy. And, you can't place in your bedroom a normal plant because they breath oxygen during their lightless stage. But, with a bubbler, a tank is ok. Nice light, cute murmuring sound, but fuck if it's not a pain to move this around rented places, but that's with all the pets I suppose.
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>>168597487
>>168599710
Have you ever heard of 'eternal terrarium'? It's a really neat idea. My wife made one for me and I have it in my office. It's so comfy.
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>>168600480
Closed jar terrariums are cool, but I'm too weak hearted to do something like that with alive matter. lol
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>>168597487
>>168598196
>>168598854
>>168599395
>>168599710
>>168600480
>>168601070
/mmog/ Is for pets now.
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Well I'm playing closers.
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>>168583964
What do you mean by this? Because it can break after using/repairing too much? Because you can lose it in PvP?

I don't get how that's like a consumable.
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>>168603913
Have you tried guild pvp? They basically give you stash for this where you dum 3-4 spare sets for match. Every time you die in match you drop everything so you have to get spare one.
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>people being a healer
Ahaha ahahaha
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>>168604246
go play LaTale you nerd
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>>168604497
Whats good about it?
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>>168605158
The OST.
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>anarchy online is getting a steam release
>implying the game's single server is big enough to handle an influx of literal tens of dozens of new players
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>>168606409
i thought anarchy online was shutting down
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is there a game with interesting healing mechanics? Tera mystics were fun, but that game seems to be dying, and the grind got to me.
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I miss Scarlet Blade sometimes. The setting was interesting and the lewdness was a nice touch.
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https://mmos.com/news/naddic-games-discussion-bring-closers-north-america

>it took a PS for them to finally say something
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>>168612159
>Just a few days after an English private server for Closers launched, Naddic Games, the studio behind the game, confirmed that they're working to get the game launched in North America and are concerned that the private server will negatively impact their official launch.
I am laughing.
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>>168612568
ALL THESE FUCKING YEARS AND NOW THEY SAY SOMETHING.
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>>168612159
>>168612568
Too bad, the Japanese server already impacted your non-existent launch for me.
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codeclosers.to/
is it a pserver? or official game
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>>168613271
pserver
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>>168612159
Its going to be just like PSO2 I bet.
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>>168613883
To be fair, PSO2's main content was costumes every two weeks, mostly collabs.
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>>168564758
>make outfit for a cosplay event
>keep wearing it
>"You must really like that outfit!"
Not all of us can afford a wardrobe that changes weekly.
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Post some musics to grind to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvbVF2Q9qgM
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>>168616235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgF2cjZoH0g
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>>168616235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUJeiEva0Hw
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>>168616235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIO6UiSW5Kk
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>>168612159
They're going to have to pander the fuck out of their server for the first few months if their plan is to steal the private server players who already have established characters and guilds.
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>>168612568
its just like elsword NA. the staff coincidentally started giving out better events and released faster content during the same time the pserver was released
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What if there was an MMO where instead of just having a generic DPS role for raids or other content; there was specific subroles of that class you'd need to overcome specific challenges?

For example; some DPS deal magic damage or have armor piercing, and you need one of each to overcome the strong defenses of certain mobs. The same also could happen for tanks; some tanks are good at blocking and armor, while others ward and absorb magical damage. Without both you would get obliterated.
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>>168623084
Sounds like shit.
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>>168623084
It would require a playerbase that wouldn't really be readily available for most hosts. Where it's hard to find tanks (and depending on the mmo, healers) now, it would be harder to find a fully synergistic team consisting of all the roles you need, rather than throwing together any available dps classes.
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>>168623084
>two tanks
lmao two hour queues
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>>168627735
Never did understand why people don't like tanking.
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>>168628850

I think it's a lot of fun. You get to be invincible.

To be quite honest, family, I almost exclusively play healers and tanks now because it's a lot easier to get groups that way, but I also really enjoy the playstyle.

I think it's more the fault of the MMO developers though, since most games seem to have more DPS classes then anything else. Plus you know how many edgelord kids see an Assassin class or a Warlock class and just have to play it over the glorious knight or priest classes.
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>>168627735
tell that to Tera during brawler era
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>>168629482
Most of them faggots could not tank for shit.
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Will MMOs ever come back as a genre ever again?
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>>168630565
When companies stop doing it for easy money.
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>>168524368

What is that outfit and where can I get it?
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>>168630881
You get it for removing giants. Elf master race.

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Police_Officer_Uniform_(F)
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>>168631031
>it's available from the quiz boxes

Sweet shit, more to look forward to than awesome bags.
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any full/partial loot pvp games played here?
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>>168632191

Asheron's Call.

:*(
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So how do I sell stuff in mabinogi? Is there like an auction house or market manager type system in this game?
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>>168613357
I can see her panties.
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>>168635540
it's a panty game
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>>168634827
You place your flee market rag in predestinated places of each town. It consists of shop license bought from a bank npc and shop bag which is sold in general store and otherwise is your usual inv bag. Also to host it, you may sit here yourself, place your pet (whole pet function will become unavailable), or buy an npc brownie from the same bank npc. Total shop costs = license and brownie. Usually people sell cheapo stuff in Dunbarton and the rest in Belvast. Shopping channels are different on each server, check your ch1.
For the premium users there are stockpile "houses" available to rent which are basically their permanent shops in separate channel areas, those are pretty much soft subscription. There are search boards in every town to look through those houses' stuff with direct teleport function, but with the town square player shops you go and physically click on them. There's a search window in pets' interface, with the area of detection about of battle one or so, anyway your pet will run to the shop with "ingot" if there's some nearby.
Housing shops are nice for beginner players because premium players throw here their daily small things like +2 def or prot accs or hp regen potions for pennies, those could be useful. Housing board, search with no key word and sort by price to found those.
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>>168636980
*sniff*
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>>168640085
*BRAAAAAAAPP*
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>>168640082
Man all this sounds like a lot and expensive just to sell stuff. So all the options on selling stuff require me to be online, I kind of hate that?
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>>168642339
Yes, you have to be online.
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>>168640082
This actually sounds like more of a giant pain in the ass than the market in Age of Wushu, and that was absolute crap
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>>168642901
What, staying online? You can buy premium if you hate it :^)
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>>168643210
Nah, you had to do that as f2p in AoW and you timed out after an hour so you had to hit the set up button again. That said, all the player shops were in one area and you had a search function to find sells for a specific item. Admittedly the search function was basically retarded and none of the item categories made any sense, but
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>>168642697
Oh well, guess I've been too spoiled by auction houses. Just wish there was a better way to turn down this game's preformance(cpu/gpu) if and when I need to leave it on while I'm away or doing something else.
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>>168643763
Download the mod. I think it was the abyss mod. One of the options is to lower the resources for it by 90% when minimized.
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>>168643942
Thanks also, I heard they were cracking down on mods for mabinogi.
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How do I make Eirlys love me so I can put that bitch to work?
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>>168644261

Why don't you have a bigger bag? Go talk to the general shop guy and look at page 2 of the first tab.
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>>168644261
Mods are technically not allowed, but nobody was banned for it unless it was some gamebreaking mod like gold duplicator or something similar. All what they do is breaking mods sometimes, so you will need to update
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>>168644452
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xc5Nk6swRiN8BreBN2_BRL6WOLjEtplq_MIM7ic8-Us/pubhtml?nxid=10#
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>>168644452
http://mabinogi.tsundere.fr/squires/
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>>168644815
>>168645118

Thanks.
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>>168644494
The money pouch? I got like 2 of the 50k ones in my bank. I'm still new so I don't know how to make much money yet.
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>>168645856

no, the 8x6 item bag. It's like 4k
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>>168645856
The item bag
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Storage_Items_List
Description may say its premium only, but that's not true anymore
You should also buy devcat bag or Fate one from players when you make some money , they are pretty cheap
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>>168645856
>>168646786

Also, it's the one that looks like it's got carpets or something behind it. Those are item bags.
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why do you force yourself to play games you admittedly dont enjoy? is it because of the neet life and have nothing better to do with your time? no other hobbies?

im not trying to be a dick, its a genuine question
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>>168647153
>why do you force yourself to play games you admittedly dont enjoy?

I only play games I enjoy tho
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>>168646786
>>168646903
>>168646926
Oh I see now, thanks. I just assumed those were for personal shops only.
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>>168647153
My usual day cycle is about 30 hours instead of 24.
Tell me all about how I'm not enjoying tremendously my lazy fuck life.
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I got some email begging me to come back. Just checking out what freebies they're going to hand me.
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>>168647153
>>168649197
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What mmo has the most fun healing?
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>>168649197
Nexon started sending those "please come back" emails not long ago, its pretty effective
Even my guildleader came back, but quit again after they stopped giving her free stuff
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I wanna rebirth all over Nao's face.
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>>168653152
http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?character_id=2742&root=0&character_strict=1&character_p=-1
derpy ancient hotgue material
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Looks like I'm gonna have to "play" Vindictus for some free shit.
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>>168655445
>tfw stay logged in on laptop while i do everything else on desktop
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Are there any 2d MMOs that aren't absolute fucking trash?
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>>168658568
DFO
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>looking at Vindictus
>all those recent negative reviews

Haha, I see Nexon is at it again
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So it looks like you gotta "play" Vindictus a minimum of 4-5 hours a day to get all the rewards.

Maybe a little less.
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>>168661674
I was gonna do the true or false thing, but the rewards are so shit.
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>>168663252
I just want to hit that 80 hours and get the phoenix wings

I do hate how they had to make it rng out of 5 wings, where the other 4 are based on that set that has the shitty metal corset and are just recolors. I bet the rate isn't equal too so everyone gets fucked.

Why cant we just have the phoenix wings?
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>>168663886
>the rewards are so shit

I dunno, I really want that bag. And the rest of the police uniform.
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>>168650293
The only email I've received says that the nexon credits left will expire in a week if I don't recharge or use any to buy.
Or are they giving Soluna blades for free too? F that.

Runescape or BDO?
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>>168663886
there was a 10/10 giant's battle done with broken trees with tree puns like son of a birch early today, kek
I'm just hanging out eyeing suddenly alive gaem is all
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>>168663965
>tfw that vindi pserv just gives out phoenix wings to everyone who makes an acct
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D E D
G E A M S
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Any first time Mabinogi hints?
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>>168672997
Try to stay below 1k total level.
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>>168673350

Why?
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>>168631031

OK, next question since I got it, and black dye.

Just how exactly did that pic end up with a uniform so dark? My black dye only made it grayish.
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Can someone tell me what they were thinking with arcane power and mana in d3? You have more mana and it regens just about as quick. Fucking stupid.
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>>168672997
If you overgrind you'll quit in one month or faster, there's no competition anyway. It's a chill slowass game. Also storyline progression will make you want to learn more skills by itself. Like - AoE would be cool, what about some crowd control or nicely damaging range and so on. There are tons of ways to buff too.
Reset your skills before training - it's free under lvl1000 - and most of it will be tolerable, a lot of skill want you to use the skill on stronger evemy and skills give you stats. Some of the requirements are hidden, but fuck that, look into wiki and do the most rewarding ones first.
The best way to make money for a newb is to sell event drops day one after maintenances+Friday.
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>>168673529
More benefits.
Like the teleport book.
Rebirth once a day instead of per week.
And most importantly, able to reset your AP. It's great when leveling Refine since you need to fail to level up and too much Dex is bad for you.
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>>168521806

How is your infinite collection so far anons? I leveled a few with gold, but others just do it by themselves. The goddamn Dragon Pig is the easiest one to get to lvl 4. He is always getting +10xp per game. Sometimes 20!

Even so, all I want is my Evangelyne or Julith. ; _ ;
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>>168674925
not an mmo
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This leveling is slow as fug compared to the pservers. I don't think I'm going to last more than 3 days. Insta lvl 75 event where?
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>>168672997
>>168674475
>It's a chill slowass game
This
Take your time, because you will never beat those corean dudes anyway. Just learn the game and try talking to people.
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>>168675298
>slow as fuck
>nobody to play with
Everyone has been complaining about this shit since it causes new players to leave but nothing is being done about it. Such a shame really.
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>>168675581
Well, I'm a returning player but yeah, Nexon doesn't give a shit since they're literally jewing people with "Unification packages" right now.

Though I am kinda happy to see that prices of pretty much everything have gone down, and that oranges are much easier to get now.
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>>168674949

We had this conversation already Jim, let it go.
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>>168677130
I didn't listen because this is a place to talk about MMOs, not card games.
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>playing games run by nexon west
why are you so in love with death, exile?
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>>168679243
Because I don't know korean
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Imagine an MMO where, even at level one, the basic monsters were too powerful to solo so everyone would need to group to level their characters.

Supports are instantly useful. Grouping is inherent to the gameplay, no bad habits or forcing people to have alternate builds for solo or raid content because ALL the content is raid content.

This would be the best way to fix modern MMOs and their communities. Prove me wrong.
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>>168680171
Would certainly like a niche old school title like that, but I think it will also be important to focus on the virtual world aspect of MMOs. Socializing and having meaningful content beyond leveling and farming gear is important.
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>>168680171
That sounds fucking awful.
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>want to rank refining
>base dex is 230
>skill reset would take away all my R1 puppetry stuff

Guess I'll make another character to do it for me.
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>>168680171
people would just not play
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>>168680794
10 of any -dex foods as a catering dish + heavy armor
http://wiki.mabi.world/view/Food_Status_Effect_List
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>>168681105
This.
A "good" MMO wouldn't have mass appeal which would make finding funding nearly impossible.
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>>168680171
assuming you're pulling WoW numbers, sure

if not it'll be dead within 2 days.
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>>168680171

it didn't work for wakfu and didn't work for FFXI and both those games cleared out in under six fucking months because party dynamics with strangers tend not to work well.
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>>168681219
So you're telling me to down a bunch of alcohol and start smelting stuff?

Sounds like a story to tell the kids.
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>>168674257
I have used pure black dye. Colors in mabinogi have their values in rgb, three numbers.
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>>168680171
Sounds like EQ back in the day. It was totally great and awesome... but I don't think we could go back to that. It certainly would never pull WoW numbers
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>>168681520
Memeghus is canonically alcoholic, so you are in the nicest company.
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>Log into mabi
>see a black guy in a red shirt with a big afro and 2 guns
>log out
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>>168682325
>not playing robots hunting humies and elves
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>doing generation quest in Mabi
>suddenly have to have a level 10 exploration level to progress

Exploration is the worst thing in the whole game.
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>>168685861
Just pop your demi and run around cor at horse.
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>>168686272
I'm actually doing G10 for the demigod mode.

But I got lucky and found like 8 statues that I could keep discovering over and over.
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Has anyone here played Bless online? Was it Fun?
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>>168690237
Yes, it looks damn nice as long as you stay still. The moment you start moving around and fighting it's all ruined. I've seen 15yo games with better animations and combat system. Devs said they are reworking it but don't get your hopes up.

It's next MMO for ERPers.
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>>168690237

I did and it played out like every other WoW clone in existence. It was fairly mediorce since it reminded me of TERA but without the compelling combat. I want to like it because there's a huge focus on faction PvP, but I highly doubt it will enjoyable or stable.

>>168690978

Yeah. The fact that Neowiz approved the released of the Russian version with the "old" combat system should make it pretty obvious we aren't getting some special unique version that AeriaGames kept bullshiting us about. The only thing they're going to do with combat is make the soft targeting more responsive.
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Necromancy!
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Gay
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thread is dead, post fallen comrades aka friends that dont play anymore.
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>>168704972
Is really Marsupial sitting on Bloomers' shoulder, or is it just a "optical illusion" from how the pic is taken?
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>>168706674
You dont know? You can ride giants. He IS sitting on her shoulder.
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>>168707094
I didn't realize there was player races in Mabinogi. Or am I misunderstanding?
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>>168707632
There are 3 races, Humans, Elves and Giants.

Humans is balanced race, good at everything but not great at anything.

Elves are the game's niggers, they move faster, they shoot 2 arrows per attack instead of 1 and they are proficent with magic.

Giants are the brute force, skills like windmill that is an AOE attack to surrounding enemies have a range bonus due to their size, they have OP skills like wind shield and they are overall stronger than the other 2 races, they can also wield a 2 handed sword in 1 hand and a giant shield on the other, and can use the "charge" skill without a shield.
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>>168709591
Man, a lot more going on in Mabinogi than I thought.
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>>168681813
>pure black dye

I thought that's what I used too, since I traded saga tickets for the fixed black dye.
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>>168709591
>Like elves on principle. Ally myself with them.
>Actually talk to both races and their leaders through Iria saga.
>Realize I like Giants a hell of a lot more, and have made a grave mistake.

Giants have the best personality. I should've known elves would be shit since they live in a fucking desert.
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>>168712367
Your fault, totally, elves are ALWAYS the pretentious faggot race, you should know it by know.

Also yeah giants are cool, im still sticking to humans tho.
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>>168712367
At least it's an easy fix to switch over and still keep your bank slave elf.
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>>168712561

Not always. Sometimes they're alright, but the only good thing to ever come out of a desert was nothing. Deserts are proof that Hell can exist on earth, and that it wishes to take over everything until everyone suffers to death.

>>168712562

I actually meant more about how I allied my human with the elves, so now my human is an enemy of giants.
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>>168712952
You can take back your alliance, dont worry about that, ditch the elves and then go talk to giants.
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>>168712952
I know. Use the Elf and Giant keyword with the Giants' leader and swap over.
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>>168616235
>>168616825
>>168617053
>>168619670
>all weeb OPs and EDs
Why did I expect anything different from you fags /mu/ would laugh in your face
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>>168713146
>>168713242

Awesome, didn't know you could just switch alliances like that. Would it give me a card for a giant character, or do I have to get another human to that point?
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>>168713745
You do a human as first character, then you go to both elves and giants for the cards, you only get the cards if your first character was a human and you only get one per faction, aka you should end up with your human, an elf and a giant.
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>>168713657
Why should I care about what /mu/ thinks?
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>>168681513
>didn't work for FFXI and both those games cleared out in under six fucking months
y lie like that
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>>168713657
>can't read
>thinks /mu/ has any taste in music
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>>168714146
It's bait ya dummy.
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>>168713657
https://youtu.be/XphjF-fHZkM
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>>168713657
https://youtu.be/vC8JY1JQ8II
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>>168714335
but its true for wakfu
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>>168714091
>>168714304
because /mu/ is the epitome of taste, young one.
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>>168715046
Again why should I let other people dictate what I like?
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>>168715168
You can like shit. But shit is still shit.
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So Mabinogi has no classes, just equip stuff an go?

I like playing melee-priest types, so just pick up a big hammer, throw on some armor and a... something for heals and start adventuring?

Does it benefit to specialize in a few things or can you have as many points as you feel like grinding?
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>>168715271
Why is it shit?
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>>168715768
In mabinogi you can level forever. Also I guess you can buy a mace and a shield and level up your healing. But people never use healing now that they have clouds.
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>>168715768
Well, game penalizes you for being a jack of all trades since some skills have requirements like "defeat a really strong opponent", if you have too many skills you habe high stats, high stats means you are quite strong, being strong means you have to find STRONG enemies to fill those requirements, so just ranking everything as you go is not a good idea.

You can learn ALL skills but racial ones, but you need to be smart and rank what you need or you will have trouble in a near future.
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>>168716363
>now that they have clouds

I wish I had a cloud.
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>>168717006
They just need cp gear.
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>>168716363
This seems like a big deal, some item made healing pointless?
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>>168717851
Its a pet, you could get many of them, on summon that takes 1 second, the cloud heals you, nearby allies, increases your stamina regen and sleeps nearby enemies, so yeah healing is useless now.
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>>168715768
>hammers, melee-priest
main a giant, wind guard and taunt are tanky and their Vales shield readily available for purchasing from npcs reduces everything to 1 dmg if defense skill is loaded. Including Smash.
The limiting thing in the game is ability points, and you can have two completely different strategies for that: people "expert" all the talents just to harvest milestone AP rewards, and people rush with rebirthing and leveling, because levels grant APs as well. The catch is the game doesn't offer free skill resets after lvl1000. So that folks do now (there were no milestone APs till recently) is training things in store reusing their tiny AP pool and after that they begin real leveling. Also, without level+age resetting rebirth (you still can rebirth to change your talents!) your level is capped 200, so no reason to worry about accidental over-leveling. Fuck in the end it's really easy to overstrain in this game.
>>168717851
The pet insta-heals you on summon, 200 hp and 20 wounds? it's not THAT helpful with heavy wounding enemies and if you are mindlessly aggressive towards enemies with a knock back resist, but 10/10 early on.
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>>168718402
>>168718563
Wow, that sucks, I like being able to heal/buff people, but if folks don't need healing and I don't see much for buffs, guess there isn't much point.
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>>168720715
Make bard, songs are powerful buffs and everyone loves them!
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>>168720778
Can they shoot bad guys with music?
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>>168721784
You bet.

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Dischord
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>>168721784
Yeah you can, music talent rocks!
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STOP HATING MY CRA GODDESS REEEEE


I expect nerfs to some of her removals. I really want a different kind of gameplay with her, of all her spells, people only ever pick the removals because they are just too good, and that's a shame.
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I'm not sure what the fuck they did to this game but it somehow runs worse than before. Guess I'll just leave it in the background and afk for the whole day for free shit.
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Do you want to start at 10 years old in Mabinogi? I find choosing an age very odd.
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>>168729024
Back in the day you did because it was a chance to get more AP.
Now I'm not so sure with being able to rebirth everyday.

But there are titles for doing things at age 10.
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>>168728831
I heard they're using new botnet anti-cheat protection.
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>>168729024
Age 10 used to be a nightmare, since you needed to be age 20 to rebirth, now only fags who roleplay as little girls go that age, there are titles and stuff but they are not important, you are weaker as a child, so its better to start in the highest possible age for beginners.

So you probably dont want to.
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>>168734953
what a qt
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>>168650293
>her
pls ask her if she wants to be my gf
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are you playing Closers, mabel?
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>>168729479
Age 10 used to be minmaxers and richfags things, since age up bonus ap was highest on low age.
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ok, installed and made a guy on Mabiogi, may have to do the tutorial later though. Just got to see the death-girls boob jiggle technology.
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>played mabi months ago
>tried getting people to play it
>no one wants to play
>quit
>now everyone is playing it
I'd play again, but downloading it and installing it is such a pain. Call me when I don't need to install a download manager.
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>>168741034
Try Steam?

Didn't even have to make an account.
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I'd drink her honey.
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>>168741736
>steam
Don't you need to download steam?
No thanks.
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>>168739882
>>168742580
You sick fucks.
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>>168743946
What? The first thing that you see after character creation is a 15 foot tall girl with giant jiggling boobs in a black dress who welcomes you to the game.
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RP missions are the worst.
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Guess I'm never going to finish G10.
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>>168747170
What server you on?
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>>168749510
Tarlach
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>>168749510
Mari.
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>>168750039
>>168750101
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>>168747170
Which one is this? I finished Gen10 solo.
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>>168751576
Probably the NTR one in (Maiz/Karu?)
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>>168751576
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>>168751876
Oh, that one.
I remember logging in to my alt.
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>>168752098
Well I don't have an alt.
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>>168753142
Or friends.
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I require some lolis, so how's Revelation Online?
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>>168759326
shit
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>>168759360
damn, so where do I get my fix then
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>>168759496
https://exhentai.org/
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>>168759564
obviously I need something different for a change
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>>168759564
What is this? All I see is a panda.
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>>168759809
lurk more
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>when you ask to marry your friend but they say they're a guy
I'm fine with this, I'm only marrying you so I can get the benefits.
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>>168747170
Depends on what srever youre on, i could lend you a hand.
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I figured out why Vindictus runs so shit. It's the fucking new UI. I literally gain 20 fps if I hide it. Fucking gooks why are they so bad at optimization.
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>>168764565
It's always been like that.
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>>168764673
No, the old UI ran fine. The new one with all the moveable elements and white buttons is cancer
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Are we even sure the bag coupons exist in the OX Quiz Event?

I really want a 160 slot bag, but nobody I've spoken to knows anyone that's seen them in this one.
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>>168767260
If the drop rates are the same as last year's, I got two the biggest things spamming the event ~15 times a day for 7 days out of 14 available, one from free completion box and one from bigger box I bought. No luck, but it's just two days for me so far and I fail a lot more due to new question set + people just can't stop messing with joes and ruin the gauge.
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I want to play an MMO where there's lots of grinding and reasons to be in groups with people other than doing instanced runs of dungeons where we don't even talk to each other.
Is there anything like that? I don't mind if the games is very old, if it's in a language I don't speak or if it's a private server with lots of bugs.
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>>168768495
No, fuck off.
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>>168768495
>lots of grinding + lots of people to speak
irl agriculture
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ded thred
4
ded gaymes
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ded guildes
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>>168768495
what else are you going to grind if you're not grinding dungeons?
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Mabinogi official or Mabinogi private?
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Does /mmog/ pay for subscriptions?
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>>168773381
Random mobs but I don't have a problem with instanced content, it's the lack of interaction with people that makes the whole thing feel like you're alone with bots, which I think ends up happening more often if groups are only needed and formed to complete some dungeon.
Honestly I'd play even some random WoW private server or retail if it weren't because people only log in for raids and the rest of the time it's just a single player game.
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>>168773785

Official has better controls. WASD instead of left clicking for everything. Also more content.

Private doesn't have a bunch of shit behind a cash-shop paywall.

Both are free to try and the game really isn't that big. Give them both a shot and see what you think.
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>>168774256
How big is the full file size?
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>>168774203

Did you try Mabinogi? I got on planning on being a lone wolf and not really interacting with other people beyond what was absolutely necessary just as an escape thanks to some heavy shit in my life making me need a break from it all so I can just autism out but it's been pretty well impossible. Day one I had someone sperging out and following me all over the place before they finally figured out the chatbox. I met a few other people just doing part time jobs and stuff, or hanging out for the quiz event.

>>168774325

Mabipro is about 2gigs, official is about 7 and a half.
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I miss old Vindictus.
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Could someone give me a casual mmo or an mmo that doesn't require you to grind for a long time, preferably f2p and can be played with a controller
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>>168778991
Everything can be played with a controller.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gfs_Tg-A5s

private server when?
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>>168780592
I'd like that it looks fun. Till then I'll be crashing suns into each other.
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Is vindictus worth playing or is it shit now?
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>>168781285
It's always been shit.
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>>168524191
runescape, EVE
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>playing mabinogi in 2017
>right after a GM is shown to be a corrupt bitch while a good chunk of the community warned about her for years.

Unironically, >>168781440 are the only left answers.
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>>168781472
What about private server?
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>>168782753
Private servers are always shit.
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>>168552258
And it was. The NFA in codeclosers is a 4chan guild too, just a private one, so you won't ever see it shilled.
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>>168524191
http://www.tibia.com/news/
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>>168783534
how is it a 4chan guild if it's private?
just some losers circlejerk
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>>168784542
You're funny. Eat shit, you don't think before you type.
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>>168783842
>blockingthese highbies in corridors so the monster can kill them
>killing and looting hese poor hardworking lowbies

Good game if you have a friend, if not you better find a guild to back you up. You don't wanna dick around alone.
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>>168784727
I'm in guilds in some games that stemmed off 4chan guilds from other games, we don't call them 4chan guilds, don't be an idiot.
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Could Dark and Light be a decent MMO?
Getting finally sick tired of Tree of Savior bullshits and this one looks both interesting and comming out soon too
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>>168786881
Elesis is shit though.
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>>168786948
Fuck you, I'm gonna kick your ass at recess.
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>>168786881
old and busted
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is there no archeage general?

is it fun?
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>>168787927
no

no
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>>168787927
trion killed it fucking dead
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>>168787110
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>>168783534
It's not really a 4chan guild if people from 4chan can't join it.
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>>168791007
>Kicks 3/4 people off the platform before her introduction cutscene ends
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>>168521806
God, more people that still play mabi?
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>>168797192
Yes we still play mabinogi. Not much to play now.
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So how is revelation? Worth it?
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>>168797903
It's alright and free. Just want until it comes out.
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Who hype for Aion 2?
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>>168798583
Never heard of it or Aion 1.
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>>168783534
>its a 4chan guild
>but its closed off and private
>so people from 4chan can't join it
Sounds more like a circlejerk to me. That's the equivalent of making a 4chan discord but not letting anyone join it.
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>>168799935
It's private as in you have to get an invite to join and to get an invite you post your name here to be added.

kind of like animebytes or any private trackers.
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>closers 4chan guild
does anyone even log on? that game looks boring
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>>168800376
Only 2 people in the guild since it's private and no one can join.
:^)
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>>168800181
Well I'm be on later. Also J is fun.
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>>168800181
I'll do that tomorrow then.
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>>168800181
Guess I should add it to the pastebin.
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>>168799935
That analogy is stupid.

It's more like making a 4chan discord and putting the link in a 4chan thread and not Reddit. And when they said it doesn't get 'shilled' it means no one posts the link on reddit or 9gag and only in 4chan.
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>>168800376
If you want an invite just reply to this post with your name. To be honest I forgot this shitty general existed
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>>168804408
Shill is such a stupid word. Talking about anything means you're a shill now. May aswell not talk about anything then.
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>>168804683
>21 people
What? Also I wished more games did it like how Grand chase did chars. Have one name and that name is the same for all chars on that account.
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>>168804824
As do I, friendo.

At least Closers gives you all your characters tied to an ID so that you don't have to join the Circle with your main and several alts.
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>>168804824
Most of them are Elsword refugees, poor traumatized things.
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>>168805009
>Elsword refugees
Ask them have they ever been in "Air".
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>>168801539
My brother.
real shame more people aren't playing him.
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>>168799935
My Revelation Online discord
https://discord.gg/dG9CbyH

no circle jerk faggotry
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>>168805552
No, we're all "Basement Athletes".
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>>168805829
>10 ppl at best
>no circle jerk faggotry
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>>168805695
You think more people would like to punch shit to death. Guess they will never understand the joys of fist chars.
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>>168806120
why don't you join and find out instead of making false implications.
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>>168806120
Well they posted it for everyone to join. So it's not a circle jerk anymore.
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>go back to check out Vindictus
>guild is ded
>everyone is either decked out goldbuyers or alts
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>>168794228
Best girl
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>>168807676
Posting best girl.
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ded
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>>168812341
To busy playing League.
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>>168717006
>so just ranking everything as you go is not a good idea.
Man there's so much to do and yet so limiting in this game, not sure what to focus on. I think I want to be a chef.
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>>168814025
>that feel when i have the special chef weapons but never used them
Meh, rF cooking forever.
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Have to say Closers is fun.
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>>168817406
Forgot picture.
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Stop playing vidya and bump the thread.
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Revelation china mmo number one
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PSO2 international when ? Surely it's must be coming right ?
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>>168822137
>PSO2
>in English
Haha no. Plus it's way too late for it now.
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>>168822620
>Plus it's way too late for it now.
see: Blade & Soul NA.
Did you also know that it's the #1 eastern MMO in America, huh?
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>>168823095
>all the people that care about it don't play the jap sever
Also they had the western site up for years and lied about it coming here. Why should I give them any money?
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Has anybody lurking played The Exiled? I just found out about it, and it looks like everything I want in an MMO.
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>>168823434
it looks like a pvp focused, less grimdark version of Path of Exile, it might be fun though.
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>pso2 america
Just open up a private server and wait for an official announcement a few days later :^)
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>>168823662
That would be funny if that happen.
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>>168823095
>#1 eastern MMO in America
That doesn't mean much.
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>>168823575
Well, PoE without the grind. It kind of looks like an MMO you can just log in and have a reasonable chance of having fun without having to devote 40 hours of week prepping.
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>>168823903
Where is the grind!?
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>>168823290
Played PSO2 for 3 years and started during the second alpha test.

Would I play PSO2 International? Depends. If it starts at Episode 1 With the standard subclasses I would definitely play it. Why? Because I was a hardcore player and wouldn't running TAs and such before shit like the faster running speed and bullshit PAs that make you go fast release. The VHTA - early/middle SHTA days were awesome. Not to mention the game client side and you need low ping to do things like Chain kills with AssBuster. It would also give me a chance to start up my own twitch channel, guild, and more because I know everything about the game during that time period.


But other than that, there is no real reason to switch from the JP version to the NA version. If you're casual you're better off playing the JP version and getting all the costumes and other shit that have a 99.99% of not releasing on an International version.
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>>168823768
>Being this salty
It means a lot.
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>>168822137
Why bother? I liked the visuals, the first story arc was decent, combat was okay.

But the things like more challenge modes, more missions with vehicles, content that is always available instead of 3 times per day, more stuff to do outside of fighting, never came.
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>>168824838
I don't get any salt for that post anon.
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>>168825441
Clearly you are. First I prove you wrong by showing you another game that was in a similar situation and when it got announced everyone in the MMO genre jumped on the hype.

You might say "everyone left after a month" but honestly they left before that because the game servers where so full you couldn't even play the game as a free player, and you also couldn't play with your friends who had early access and decided to make their characters on the mushin server. But the money was already made so nothing was lost anyway and the game still has the biggest population of all foreign MMOs.
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>>168826179
I'm not >>168823768 ya dummy.
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Speaking of PSO2, does it still use GameGuard?
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>>168823095
Blade and Soul got pushed here for hopes the esport community would travel with it.

PSO2 is not in the same boat. If it was ever going to come here officially, it would have happened already.
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>>168827108
Blade and Soul was released in NA/EU after WildStar tanked hard. WildStar was the only reason it got delayed. Well, WildStar and some faggot who works for NCSoft that decided what was best for us ala B&S too weeb, let's give them this toon MMO instead.

ESports is world wide. Blade & Soul Esport isn't world wide at all. If they wanted it they would have released the game years ago during the LoL era.
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>>168825261
Also, weapons went from specialized, to mash the button to do well and gather a meter and then mash it to do great.

>sword block that negated any damage from from and executed instantly while on the ground
>Spear's great range and block last as long as you have meter and instant in mid air. If you combo'ed skills, or used some skills as combo finishers, you got more meter that buffed the skills.
Hunter was quite fun
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>>168824183
There isn't supposed to be. Players are supposed to be able to get geared up in a very short frame of time compared to other mmos, and the risk of dropping your gear increases the higher level/geared you are.
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>>168829420
>risk of dropping your gear increases the higher level/geared you are.
>risk of dropping your gear
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>>168830250
Carebear
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>>168830504
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>>168823434
Looks like something I could get into, post about it again in 3 days when the trial thing starts cause I might forget about it.
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When will this game stop being comfy?
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>>168831623
It never stops.
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>>168830250
Pussy.
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>>168832528
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>>168832792
What is it about full loot that frightens you?
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>>168833006
I don't like working for stuff and having a chance to lose it.
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what's the appeal of closers? is it actually worth playing?
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>>168833182
How do you handle life?

Also the point of the game is that the grind is minimal, so it's not like you invested thousands of hours for your plus 1 like you do in a typical mmo.
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>>168833328
I'm talking from when I grinding for days to get top gear and upgrade it to just have it break from upgrading it.
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>>168833680
Okay? So what relevance does that have to the discussion of this game?
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>>168833886
Not much be I still don't like losing gear.
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>>168834080
well, in that case keep your irrational carebear attitude out, and don't poison the game like so many of your kind do.

>see pvp game that looks fun
>join game, do exclusively pve, complain about pvp at every step.
>game devs eventually change things to make it better for you, ruining the game for the intended audience
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>>168834276
You sound like a bundle of sticks.
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>>168834276
>PvP niggers come into PvE game
>bitch about the balance in PvP
>Everything gets nerfed
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>>168834816
>mmo
>pve game

PvE games are things like vermintide, or payday 2. PvE MMOs hardly qualify as games.
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>>168834972
Because only hardcore gaymers can roll their face across their hotkeys and land all their skills that are impossible to miss in PvP.
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>>168835247
Who said anything about hardcore?

Grinding the same mobs for thousands of hours to get a plus 1 to ass fingering and increase your sugoi rating in the dungeon of infinite farts is hardcore. It also means you're a shell of a human being.

meanwhile, PvP is naturally interactive with other players. You can be hardcore or not hardcore with PvP, but the one thing that's required is healthy appreciation for competition against your fellow man.
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>>168834972
>PvP
>MMOs
oh man I love grinding badly scripted entities for hours upon hours to play whackamole tab targeting and point and clicky in some shitty instanced area
g o t y
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>>168835553
>pvp has to be tab targeted, or instance based

Archeage: Tab targeted, but not instanced based
Tera: Occasionally instanced based, but not tab targeted
The Exiled, the mmo starting off this conversation: Neither.

However, you basically did just describe 90% of PvE mmos. Play real pve games like Vermintide, you'll be way more satisfied with them.
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>>168835869
Shamefully Vermintide is garbage (and so is Payday 2), so I don't think I have any intention in jumping boat.
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>>168836459
Well, I knew you had shit taste, but if I wasn't sure before, this basically confirms it. Whatsamatter babby, need your tab targeting crutch and resent having to aim?
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>>168834816
you'd make one hell of a shitty developer. you can't just ignore one giant aspect of the game just because you claim its pve only despite having a pvp queue. and why are pvp nerfs affecting pve anyway? what kind of shit games are you playing?
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>>168836540
>I have shit taste because I don't like buggy hack whacky smacky 4 dead and pay4onemilliondlc and braindead AI

MMOs will never be a good platform for PVP based content as they rely on grind, big netcode sacrifices to allow players to play all around the globe (aside from korean variations) and generally shitty developers who focus on instanced PvE content.

Go ahead and notify me of a good PvP game though.
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>>168836976
Eve Online
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>>168836976
GW2, no grind.
Eve
Tera
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>>168836976
>big netcode sacrifices to allow players to play all around the globe (aside from korean variations
It's more like p2p works perfectly in small countries like Korea so they don't need the upgrade. However when the game is ported overseas the same model is used despite the size of the country, so it's really a lack of adaption.

All that's needed for MMO's to be a good PvP platform is for either dedicated servers or just remove any form of cash advantage. There's nothing wrong with the model itself, it's just shitty business practices. Ironically enough PvP is the reason why people do hardcore cashing.
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>>168836976
Archeage during alpha.
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>>168837232
>GW2 PvP
>Tera
>good PvP game(s)
Maybe 4 years ago, GW2 went downhill a long time ago with broken and unbalanced shit, and with Jon Peters and all the other founders leaving the company, it's gone beyond shit.
Tera is just awful in every regard as the company shits out new classes that have the balance of a wet turd and pay2win dominates the competition boards.
>>168837537
And as such, netcode and generally shitty developers (cash advantage) still stay relevant.

I'm not saying that MMOs couldn't be the sliced bread of PvP based combat, I'm saying that it never WILL be.
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why do pve players hate pvp so much?
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>>168837939
pvp players hate pve players because their changes ruin their part of the game, and developers are too braindead to make the two not have the exact same effects and balance

pve players hate pvp players because their changes ruin their part of the game, and developers are too braindead to make the two not have the exact same effects and balance
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>>168837939
Part of it is that in fun games, PvP players are allowed to kill pve players, who suck so bad that they can't defend themselves.
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>>168837939
>why do people who want to play pve hate pvp so much
how braindead of a question is this
its like asking why someone who wants to eat a banana won't eat an apple instead
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Do we even have a /vg/ guild for Spiral Knight? I'm back on it for some weeks (Until I join the army that is), and would be down to shoot the shit and farm fucking black kats with /vg/
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What are some good mmos where i don't play as a human?

I want to travel the world, but have some unique racial abilities
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>>168838792
>no new content since release
jesus
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>>168838878
There has been a DLC and they added missions recently, apparently. But otherwise a shitton of stuff changed since release.
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>>168838980
yeah the DLC is only good for one weapon and that's about it.

A shame too, since I loved both the artstyle and gameplay of the game, but I rerolled it from the start like 3 times in hopes for new content, but content never came.
>>
pvp in mmos are fine, but shit pisses me off when some dickhead 20 levels above me one-shots me while i'm minding my own fucking business.

open world pvp never works. keep it to the arena/battlegrounds.
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>>168839304
Get your own dickheads 20 levels above you to help you out. Play a multiplayer game.

The real cancer there is levels. Levels (both experience and item wise) aren't necessary for an RPG, and are the cancer killing MMOS.
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>>168840024
lol who the fuck has difficulties leveling?
Now equipment, equipment is a real fucking doozy of a shit that's been killing MMOs since forever, the concept of having to grind for random chance drops in order to overpower your opponent rather than by skill is just stupid and has no place in anything other than cancer cells.
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>>168839304
Open-world PvP works great in EVE. Most MMOs would need to compress the leveling so high levels aren't totally OP to low level players for it to work well.
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>>168840380
Depends on the game. BDO levels go on forever for instance.

ESO took 50 hours or so to reach max iirc, if you weren't grinding.
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>>168831623
When you start taking it too seriously and become bitter about it, slowly destroying and warping the view of things you loved dearly.
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Anyone on the dead Mari server that can help me?
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>>168847115
add the tripfag maybe
>>168761781
>>168709591
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Playing closers made me want to play DFO again, someone stop me
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>>168852494
DFO is shit.
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>>168852494
Do it fgt
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>>168852578
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>>168852607
dumb bu poster
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>>168852494
Come play
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>>168852494
Don't play until they do some event where they give away a ton of free shit to new people/people that haven't been on in a long time
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>>168853145
Neople sure have jumped off the deep end. They're pandering to the waifushitters. Wasn't the last 3 classes released all women? And now we get FPriest.
They also canceled the male classes which is a shame. I'd play again if there was more muscley men.
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>>168853486
>8 male base classes (Creator is a boy, right?)
>7 base female classes counting F.priest who isn't released yet
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>>168853486
The last two were Demonic Lancer and Male Mage's 3 new subs.
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>>168853486
>They also canceled the male classes
you know they just added lancer and three new mmage subclasses, right
>>
Guys, what happened to Wakfu? Everyone was talking about it a month ago and now everyone stopped.
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>>168858104
Its flavor has gone stale
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>>168858104
It's ded
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>>168858104
Everyone was playing DN too, what now
looks like being OP is not as desirable as devs think
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>>168858104
>Wakfu:pandaland edition
Ankama removed tokens from bosses and now Wakfu is just a shitty daily grind of dailies.

>log in
>do all dailies in like 1-2 hours
>log off
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>>168862752
>Wakfu is just a shitty daily grind of dailies.
pls
no
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ded
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>>168867185
Too busy playing a Harry Potter MMO.
It's pretty fun.
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>>168804683
invite hiraku when you can
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>>168869290
I'd fuck that boy.
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>>168869591
but i'm a girl
;3
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>>168869591
me too
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>>168869290
are you a normal person now or are you still mental
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>>168870131
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>>168870541
dumb anime poster
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>>168869290
sent friend req
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None of the closers characters really click with me.
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>>168871732
I found Levia mediocre but I forced myself to keep playing her and now she's actually quite fun and comfy. You just need to learn how to chain together some skills, imo
>>
you fags just go to the mabinogi general
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Anyone else play on closers kr?
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I hate all of you.
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>>168878538
b-but i love your boipucci
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dead
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I wanna be a whore.
What MMO should I play?
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>>168883591
ffxiv
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>>168883591
Just go to /terag/ and make a elin.
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>>168886608
But I'm not a pedo.
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>>168887118
Just make a elf or human then.
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>>168887118
You're not me.
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>>168889087
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>>168889157
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>>168889298
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>>168889298
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why you all suddenly tits
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>>168889564
I love all titties.
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weebs ruined mmos
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>>168823434
>>168823575
>>168831396
that's Das Tal, a boring open world RPG where you can kill any player wherever they are. you will get bored after an hour maximum
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>>168890168
You ruined MMOs
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>>168891887
Can you stop posting this picture?
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i ruined mmos
it was me
and you'll NEVER fix them
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I'm looking for an MMO with farming and / or involved crafting system. Any suggestions?
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>>168892008
Heaven and Hearth
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>>168892024
Sorry should have specified, something 3D. I think I've played all the 2D ones
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>>168892190
It's 3D now. They upgraded.
Or you can try Runescape.
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>>168892008
Black Desert Online? The crafting system is... Well, it's involved, but also not. It's got a seven day trial and is buy to play.
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>>168848809
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>>168891941
No.
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>>168891947
No it was me! DIO!
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>>168852494
>Playing closers made me want to play DFO again

Playing Closers made me see how much better DFO combats is when you compare them together. Closers is literally babies first step to side beat em ups. Judging by the trailers and combat I had seen before playing it I thought it was as good but that turned out not to be the case.


I mean it's still a fun game, I can't wait for my Valkyrie waifu to release.
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>>168896678
>dfo
>That endgame
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>>168896678
Playing DFO again made me realize I can't stand the poor scaling of the sprites and the mess of the UI.
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>>168897229
What's wrong with the endgame?

>>168897897
Why don't you just mod the UI to your liking? The Sprites scale really good. The hell are you smoking over there? Better so some comparison to older fighting games.
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>>168898029
Endless farm of entries for endless farm for gear to endlessly farm for top tier gear, because dps race is king
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>>168898029
>>168896678
Why ya starting shit?
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>>168898029
Why do I have to compare to older games when I can compare to newer games that just look better?
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>>168898652
>Literally ever MMO ever created by mankind


>>168898707
I'm not. I'm just speaking the truth. But I'm currently playing Closers with friends so it's fun regardless. Actually it wont be as fun until they release Valkyrie waifu. But still fun nonetheless.

>>168898831
see: Street Fighter 3 Third Strike and Guilty Gear Reloaded. Sprites literally made by the gods.
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>>168899570
I wish DFO's sprites looked half as good as 3rd Strike or GG.
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So I sold something in mabinogi with my personal shop plus brownie but I can't find out where the gold went or goes.
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>>168900769
it's on your license. Drag and drop it into your bank account window.
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>>168899570
>I'm not.
Yes you are. You can keep your opinions to ya self anon.
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Anyone excited for MU legends CBT 2?
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>>168901025
Thanks and on another note

Fucking shit, I gotta sell stacks of shit individually? God dammit, fucking lost a lot of gold.
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>>168901871
What ya selling?
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>>168903351
9 holy waters. I guess I sold all 9 for 20k insted of 20k each.
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>>168903595
wait I got it why you are confused. It's the way the housing board simplifies things. Well, 20k is for stack anyway.
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>>168904478
Hosing always sell their shit for MAX. Never go there unless you really need something.
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>>168904761
I found this to be the complete opposite on jMabinoggo
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>>168904478
>>168904761
Man selling stuff in this game is a nightmare. How the hell to people put up with this system?
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>>168905551
being retard again
check the fliers, summary listings don't show contents of enchant scrolls being sold or details on item condition and so on. It's really winXP like, windows windows windows ok ok ok ad infinitum
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>>168906898
I see what you're saying, I was thinking of it like your usual auction house. I see what they're getting at with this kind of system but still, the stuff you gotta go through just to sell stuff is a bit unnecessary.
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>>168904478
I tried to come back to Mainogi but they pussified the battle system so I left again.
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>trying to go cooking without these babies
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>>168910075
what year did this game release. it looks like you're developing a game rather than playing one. More like one of those MMD makers.
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>>168910075
Activate your Windose god damnit.
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Which MMOs released in the last two months are the most fun right now?
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>>168910546
bottom right corner, 2003

yes, mabinogi is probably more older than half of the population of 4chan
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>>168911043
>released in the last two months
none
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>>168910623
No, pirate version is best version.
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>>168912420
Just trick your Windose to think it's activated!
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If Vindictus is a prequel to Mabinogi, why is it so dark and lewd?
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>>168883591

Play Bns and be my gon whore
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>>168915332
You're implying mabi isn't dark and lewd.
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>>168915332
This girl seems pretty dark and lewd.
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>>168917035
Something special will happen if you counterattack succubi.
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Vindictus combat feels nice
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>>168912614
Pirates dont need to hide themselves!
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>>168896678
>DFO
>Better gameplay than closers

what fucking world are you living in?
DFO you end up using LESS skills in endgame, while in closers, you're using all of your skills, and it's actually fucking hard unlike DFO.
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>>168910075
>>168918872
How does this game still exist?
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>>168915332
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>>168919503
Magic.
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>>168919503
People still play it and pay money.
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>>168919453
Sigh. I'm kinda busy right now, so I'll have to respond to your garbage later.
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>>168919928
Don't bother, I don't want to listen to your completely uninformed opinion.

t. person who's been playing both games for years.
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>>168919981
No, no, I'm going to embarrass you with your lack of technical knowledge in a bit. See you then.
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>>168920089
Unless you're going to post your savior weapon / tiamat weapon in their respective games, don't bother, if you haven't been playing long enough to do that you don't have an opinion worth hearing.
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>>168919615
wait, this is a jp-nogi only feature, right?
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>>168920512
Yes. NA kids can't have stuff like that. People are to stupid.
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>>168920576
pretty sure it doesn't exist on gookland either
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>>168919615
>>168915332
tfw you'll never kidnap a perfectly healthy war orphan loli just to make her into forever alone demigod titty monster
feels good
>>
there are people here that still play mabinogi?

or is it just people finding it for the first time?
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>>168920865
Both
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>>168920865
Both
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Shards Online is going to be shit, isn't it?
Albion Online is already shit, isn't it?

Why will full loot PvP never return?
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>>168920165
I don't need to post weapons (although I can). You said Closers has better gameplay.

Let's begin from the beginning and cont.


So right off the back both games have normal attacks and special normals when running/sprinting. In both game they are cancellable into Skills. However in DFO they added a unique short hop cancel that can be used during normals and such. DFO also has a few normals are skills (this might be a way to make it look like there are more skills than there really is) but aren't technically a skill and are just additional special command normals..... skills (lol). Usually, these are the skills you obtain in the first 1 - 10 levels before you get some to the good old MMO big colorful splash stuff. DFO also gives you a dedicated launcher rather than a skill that just ends with a launcher like alot of classed in Closers. DFO gets its technical side mechanics and properties from fighting games rather than action MMOs and if you're a fighting game fan you notice this right from the very beginning.


You're up.
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>>168925036
You will never use those past lvl 15, only in PvP (which is dead)

If that's your argument then you're literally retarded.
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>>168925216
Well, that was fast.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt1h1MinlLI
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>>168925874
I didn't hate this game when I played it, but I just can't bring myself to do subscriptions.
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>>168926803
This game is not bad as mmo but I hate it as a FF serie game.
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>>168925036
Not that guy but if you're treating a beat 'em up like a fighter you're full of shit.
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>>168925874
do I still have to slog trough the fucking garbage story that persists in heavensbore?
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I've never played D3 or any diablo game for that matter before. Does the character gender affect anything other than voice actor?

And with that is the Female or Male crusader VA better? (Like how Fallout 4's female voice actor was astronomically better than the male one if for no other reason than she actually showed a bit of emotion)
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>>168899570
>Literally ever MMO ever created by mankind

Which is false. For starters, only most Korean and a few other eastern MMOs have RNG-based endgame bullshit. Secondly, other games at least have events or other fun side crap to break away the gameplay. All there is to do in DFO's endgame is to grind for gear, hoard money by running sell raids, or do speedrun videos.
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>>168928101
DDO was so much fun. I just realized you didn't say DDO but DFO. I don't care it was still fun.
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>>168927618
Then I guess DFO is full of shit because that's literally the game and even the developers have stated it themselves on "creating Dungeon FIghter"

As for the other guy, he already admitted defeat in his first reply.
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>>168928073
no

and theyre both fine
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>>168928389
You've never played DFO for any decent amount of time if you unironically believe this shit

I'll bet you play monk or ranger or something and insist DFO is still the same way it was when it was created 10 years ago.
It's shit now, just accept it, there's no mechanical depth or whatever meme you'll spew out, it's just bad, the game has devolved into big aoe spam and one shotting weak ass bosses with your 5000000% skills and full epic set.

"b-but you can backstep"
who cares about backstepping when the endgame is blowing the fuck out of bosses with 1 or 2 skills instantly.
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>>168911217
MU legends is pretty fun. CBT2 is starting tomorrow so expect actual launch early summer or so.
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What MMO has the best pvp currently
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>>168711959
Fixed black dye in Saga is random shade of black.
There's a slim chance of it becoming black.
Pure black would be all 0000000F
On a side note the chance of a pure white or black from dye synthing is around 1 in 50.
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>>168928915
Fucking this. The game went from being a pretty fun MMO beat em' up to fucking one punching everything like you're Goku.

Party play isn't even encouraged and you're obligated by the community to having the BiS, even when you state you're playing casually.
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>>168928915
This whole debate started because one anon said Closers has better combat than DFO. Your post have nothing to do with Closers and for some reason have this urge to attack DFO's combat and again nothing about Closers. Either you are the same guy quoting my starting post twice or DFO butt fucked you in the ass raw skin no lube. Which is it?
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>>168928915
Oh and I forgot to quote this,
>the game has devolved into big aoe spam and one shotting weak ass bosses with your 5000000% skills and full epic set.

Lol, that's like what, not even 1% of the community. The rest of you have been playing for years and still don't have a full epic set lol.
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>>168929745
The thing is, classes are so overpowered now that you can do this even with a shitty legendary set, a bottom tier class with a half-decent sader can do this.
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>>168742657
>Don't you need to download steam?
Some next level faggotry at work here. But I'll shoot you this that you can find a original launcher or get a friend to send you the one in the folder of the steam version you can launch the game entirely from that. Steam is just a way to automatically update the game without pulling up the launcher also. Once you have the steam version can you can root around in files to get the original launcher and use that strictly.
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>>168929832
Like....?
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>>168929979
any class with gracia and the proper party composition is strong enough to btfo anton raid bosses without even thinking
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>>168915332
Vindictus isn't even fucking canon anymore, except for season 1. It's a failed abortion to the mabi crowd that wanted mabinogi with better graphics, but got lobby finder gender locked class garbage.
>>168920865
Been playing Mabi on and off since release. Love the game, keep coming back to it, because all the mmos hitting the market now are planned erosion of the soul with no actual unique holdings in the long run.
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>>168930070
Not even Garcia, even my B.Mage with a full chronicle set can just pace through Anton without too much trouble.
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>>168928915
>when the endgame is blowing the fuck out of bosses with 1 or 2 skills instantly.

When was the last time you played?

>>168930070
>Anton raid

Anton raid is old and busted. Luke raid is the new hotness
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>>168930070
>Party
>DFO

Are you sure you played DFO?
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>>168930293
Luke raid is not out yet and it's the same thing, just with a gear wall of 90 ebins, if you don't have 90 ebins so you can btfo the bosses instantly you can't run it, it's not any better than anton.
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>>168929493
Hypothetically Black Desert Online if you enjoy fast pace large scale pvp. However it's entirely on you being high level AND having gear that makes you bang your dick against an rng shitbrick of a house for months on end if you're unlucky and most people outright quit the game because bad rng forces you to never progress while the guy next to you can get lucky and get a full set of boss gear in a month. It's a whole new atmosphere of truly dismal mmo bullshit revved up to 11.
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I'm behind.
Mabi.Pro is a private Mabi server, right? How is it? I want to get back in.
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>>168930397
I don't think you've ever played DFO's endgame if you think you're going to be soloing the raid.
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>>168930070
>any class
>not naming a class
>Anton
>Not Luke

Fucking embarrassing anon. I've seen parties in full ebin fail luke and you think people are doing that shit in Gracia!?
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>>168930445
dodgy at best, pleion engine is next to unknown with none of the original devcat team around that made it. Until the nexon servers die, mabi private servers will remain pretty dodgy, because there's no initiative to really understand the engine.
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>>168930549
Holyshit you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsSW8JOrazM
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>>168930623
Luke (raid) is literally a gauntlet of HP sponges, like I said, full 90 ebins or don't even try, there's no interesting or challenging mechanics, it even further takes away from the point that the guy who started this was talking about.
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>>168930660
Oh. I see a lot of people picking it up again. Is it enough to warrant me jumping back in? I would love Mabi if it weren't for the Nexon part of it.

>Week behind getting into Mabi pro

Am I too late, even? Has the flavor worn off?
>>
Is there a good MMO that isn't heavily RNG based?

Like fuck, I wouldn't even mind if it had RNG, if it had some decent consolation for failing RNG.

MMOs are starting to turn into Gacha shit.
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>>168930765
I been playing on the real version of the game since release on and off, mabinogi has gotten better with time as nexon has really relaxed it's hold on your balls. I would say that mabi is at it's peak to play right now. Should the nexon servers go down though I can almost guarantee someone will actually work on a decent private server worth a damn to actually play. The sad part is I doubt they will do a very good job at it, my dream looking like for a private server one that takes the time to go through all the cash related content and scale it throughout the game as actual drops.
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>DFOcucks start flooding here desperate to defend their shit game
>they think luke is well designed content

lmao

>>168930748
Sell party isn't soloing, he has other people clearing the other dungeons, without the other people, he would not be able to clear his dungeons cause the other dungeons would be left uncleared, letting the raid gimmicks fuck him up.
It's possible to solo phase1 with EXTREME levels of gearing, but soloing phase2 is actually impossible.
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>>168931081
>Soloing is not soloing.
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>>168931359
If you wanted to prove a point you'd have linked one of the few ACTUAL raid phase 1 solo videos where they SOLO EVERYTHING THEMSELVES (except not really cause you can't solo phase 2 xd), like I said, there's other people clearing the other dungeons making it possible for the other people to do their thing, it's not really soloing if you need someone else to clear shit for you, is it?
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>>168931643
>Soloing is not soloing v2

Are you American?
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>>168931825
It's a raid, there are other people in the raid, therefore not solo.
Is this really so hard to understand?
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>>168931918
You ARE American, because only Americans make up there own beliefs for something in an attempt to convince someone that they are right.

>Clear a dungeon that requires retards amount of end game gear all by yourself
>It's soloing but it's not soloing because the guys in the other dungeon helped you via GiveMeYourEnergy.meme
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>>168932562
Go ahead and get back to me once you find someone capable of clearing raid without other geared people clearing other dungeons for them.

In any case, this is just proving my point about how braindead DFO has become, 90 cap just worsened the problem.
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Who do I talk to on mabipro for a group?
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>>168932834
Fuck off.
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>>168932798
By your logic...

>Be Running Back in NFL
>Run Dive (running play meant for a gain of at least 3 yards)
>Manage to make it out the pocket (the small hole meant to gain yards)
>Nothing but opponents in your FoV
>Break all taclkes, stiff arm a few, jukes some others, all for a Touchdown like those anime characters do in sports anime.
>You didn't solo because the quarterback had to hand you the ball and the Coach had to call the play

No. you're the one that's braindead.
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>>168933443
>handegg analogy

and you're calling me american?
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I'm sorry guys >>168852494
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>>168932992
Why? It's an mmo, right?
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>>168680171

Noone want to endure the grind of 10 years ago. We've grown and the new kids want to rush to end game dont socialice along the way and try to stay away from pvp until max lvl.
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>haven't played in years
>barely got anywhere anyway
>start up a new character
>always worried about storage space

What a pleasant surprise. I got The Returned title and have been doing the daily missions. Got myself a 7x7 devcat bag for free to replace my 8x6 trading bag. Net gain of 7 inventory slots, but I'm not complaining unless my RM bag vanishes with the title. Apparently anyone who hasn't played in 90 days can get the Returned title, and it might be repeatable since the 10th day gives a box that has either a unicorn whistle or a 50ap pot if you've already got a returned unicorn.
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>Play MMO
>In depth Character Creator
>Select the most balance/average looking preset from the Preset Box
>Begin making your waifu
>The final product looks nothing like the Preset and is completely original
>You didn't solo that because the dev team provided you with the Preset
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>>168934224
RM bag is permanent.
The return player seals you get from doing missions however will go away. Save them for an outfit box instead of burning them on weapons as there's only so many you can get in the time of title. You can spend the return seals at the seal shop in dunbarton
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Okay, did Mabinogi get an update in the last few days? Why is everyone piling into it all of the sudden?
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>>168934621

Yeah, planned on saving them on an outfit. I thought about getting a weapon, but then I realized how shitty most of them are. And that I can probably get them in other ways.

Am I right in thinking I can repeat this when I inevitably stop playing the game for months at a time again? I'd love that 7x7 Welcome Back Bag too.
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>>168935787
Because they're oldfags and hate all new MMOs.
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>>168936082
>Because they're oldfags

Pretty much. And broke, but not wanting to spend cash on stuff anyway.
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>>168935787
I never played it and people talking about it made me want to
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>>168936049
Returned counts for players gone longer than 6 months, however I do not know if you can receive return benefits more than once even if you go away for another 6 months.
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>>168931049
>nexon has really relaxed it's hold on your balls

I find this REALLY HARD to believe considering the state of the game when I last checked on it.
Can someone corroborate this statement?
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I hate to keep bringing up Mabi, but what server does everyone play on?alexia?
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>>168936425
I'll give you a comparison leading up different timelines in the game.
G1-3 you had to pay for and keep maintaining sub to have the benefit of transforming into a paladin or dark knight.
You used to have wait 3 weeks to rebirth and the rebirth must be a paid card.
You used to have to pay for premium service to use bags and the ability to even open a shop to sell your stuff.
You used to have to pay for dyes.
When rebirths went free paid players could rebirth weekly and free players had to wait the same three weeks. Age restrictions on rebirth unless you paid as well.
Now in comparison
Dye market crashed with the introduction of an event dye well that allows for ease of access to dye synthing.
All generation content is free. This includes making skills once locked behind a paywall no longer the case.
Bag service is free
You now have access to more event content that is relevant to giving you cash items like pets and bag space.
Rebirth is free and weekly for everyone.
Beginner benefits for the first 1000 levels which includes free cash items and unlimited skill resets allowing you to essentially abuse raising skills and resetting them to never actually worry about combat power requirements.
Supplemental AP from generation content out the ass. You can finish all generations within the first 100 total levels if you know what you're doing giving you plenty of room to abuse the free skill reset system.
Pets can be sold between players now via adoption ticket

Now don't get me wrong, Nexon still has it's hardcore cash grabs in special upgrades past rank 5 (doesn't matter as much as you think) and reforges (matters a bit more, but not really until you're already 8-10k total in and start thinking about gear options this can be painful but there are reforges that are essentially game changers like cast speed 20, lance charge distance, elemental, and shieldless charge for humans and elves.)
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>>168937362
Alexina albeit good population has some of the worst community.
Ruairi got plowed into the ground by exploits quiet place otherwise
Mari is all fashionogi and shitfest rp
Tarlach is has some of mari traits but generally the most lax server with a bunch of librarians and bards, but it can be rather quiet at times.
Pick your poison
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>>168937616
>You can finish all generations within the first 100 total levels if you know what you're doing

Unless you're me and can't find someone to do this stupid RP quest.

I just wanted to be a demigod.
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>>168938024
Do g17 and Saga and soak up more AP in the meantime, you also get a free pegasus with a fuck huge inventory and a good chunk of gold as well the fuck huge amounts of ap potions it dumps on you.
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>>168938024
>>168938234
Also Saga can be done on multiple characters to get multiple Pegasus So put your elf and giant assist to work and the other 5-6 character cards they give you.
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>>168937616
I'm seeing that you can rebirth every day now, is that true?
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>>168938473
first 1000 levels but you all get free skill resets for the first 1000 levels so don't fucking create bad habits figure out what you wanna be before then otherwise you'll have to get full reset caps from players for 1-2 mil gold
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>>168938234
I already did the Saga and I have like 1000 AP.
I just want Demigod skills.
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Anyone here ever played Nexon's Dark Ages or NexusTK? It's owned by KRU now but fuck them. Just wanted to know if there were any of you people around.

I'll never feel the same way I felt when I was playing DA back in stone-client days. That mystical music...that stone slab login screen...the dark atmosphere of everything.
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>>168935787
It's just one guy blogging about it and then idiots new to these threads join in and start talking about it. It happens every couple threads.
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>>168939225
this desu
it happened with wakfu and krosmaga last
i forget what was before that
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>>168935787
Yurop Vindictus got moved to US client, so now they can play Mabinogi again too
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>>168939225
Honestly in the washed out bullshit environment of mmos now, Mabinogi has remained pretty unique compared to the other bullshit. It's what keeps dragging me back from release to now. I fucking quit so many other mmos but keep coming back to mabi.
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Looks like people play Mabi in here. I fucking loved that game. I can't come back to it now.

Did Ruari ever meet back up with his waifu?
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Are Bards any good in mabi or am I wasting my time making one?
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>>168945265
Everything in mabi is good.
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>>168945317
Really? Even healers?
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>>168945424
You can use healing magic if you want.
Potions are better tho.
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>>168938897
I played Dark Ages many many years ago. Really want a game built around RP with cool systems and maximum comfy gameplay like that again. Also played Endless Online because paying a sub was a pain as a kid.
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>>168930802
Tera is as babby as you can get while still having RNG
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Not dead.

I like Closers.
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>>168950434
We dead.
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Anyone else room closing in Closers?
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I am implying that this is some god tier music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-yUk1QCxI
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>>168953437
What is this closers thing? I want a new mmo.
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>>168805009
Elsword is one of the best mmos in this thread tho.

It's the best 2d mmo
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>>168954612
It's like DFO and Elsword but in a modern city settings
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>>168954612
Most of us are talking about the recent private server.
http://codeclosers.to
It's like DFO but with 3D models and it's actually fun.

>>168954649
Delusional.
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>>168954997
Biggest complaint I had with DFO was that it was piss easy.
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>>168954997
>Calling me delusional because i really like a game you don't like

Oh come on now, be a tiny bit more mature than that
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>>168955080
Late game Closers is git gud or get one shot; plus the resurrection uses are limited and the bosses are pretty bulky (and the HP scales to the number of people in your party). You need to actually time dodges and the few i.frames you get to survive but anything before Lv60 is going to be piss easy (and 100% solo as most quests require you to run solo because of instanced happenings).
All in all it's pretty fun.

>>168955086
I'm jaded after 5-6 years of being fucked by KoG NA, apologies.
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>>168955681
The micro-transactions is the only major flaw of Elsword.

Other than that, the game is amazing. the dungeons are fun and varied, the characters are cool and have cool moves, and the combat system is really fun

As a bonus, the game also has some great lore and great music
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>>168955938
>The micro-transactions is the only major flaw of Elsword.
Did you completely ignore the tooltip split gutting most of the cast and making +11 the new +10.
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>>168956975
Dude, i come to elsword from Flyff and Dragon Nest

Elsword is doing really well in comparison to how hard Dragon Nest and Flyff fucked up
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>>168918872
Damn, i just noticed the pirate outfit makes my chracter look like shes not wearing a bra.

Screw it im selling it.
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>>168956975
>>168958223
I hate how piss easy Dragon Nest was even though I found the story interesting but not enough to stick with it.
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>>168958223
>Flyff
Now there's a game I haven't seen in awhile, 10 years to be exact. How bad has that game gotten, I left around version 9?
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>>168958843
The elemental mage class got a new skill that stuns for one minute and has no cooldown.

Nah i'm just joking.

Nah i'm just joking about joking, this is actually real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dA1w26AYM0

http://flyff-wiki.webzen.com/wiki/Echoes_of_the_Weary
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>>168958681
Yeah, the quest line was interesting but I stopped near the end. Where you jump into the hole and meet the 2nd Rubinart
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>>168959453
kek, I'm actually not even surprised by this. Pvp was always broken in that game, it was basically rock, paper, scissors but with jobs insted and the devs would always play favorites with certain jobs too.
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>>168959453
I quit when they added a cooldown on Prevention(?). It was a skill that heals you fully when you drop to a certain amount. It was great being able to tank even if you're a ranger.
I miss it.
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Who want to play Peria Chronicle with me?
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>>168963090
I will play it with you when it gets released in about 10 years.
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>>168963090
Is this going to be in English?
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>>168963773
Don't know. It was supposed to be released this year and suddenly developer scrapped it and remake it from the start because developer feel unsatisfied with the gameplay.
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>>168963961
I guess its back to closers then lol. I looks great though.
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so /mmog/ is just a bunch of rejects right
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>>168963961
>It was supposed to be released this year and suddenly developer scrapped it and remake it from the start because developer feel unsatisfied with the gameplay.
good
the card bullshit is retarded
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>>168966458
I think they are still stick with card gimmick tho. That is the whole point of Peria after all. I think they want to change the mechanic. Perhaps a Wixoss-esque mmo?
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Just started Closers, level 18 right now, any tips I should heavily consider to better the game? Any mandatory replica dungeon I'll need to run? Or skills I should pump into, etc?
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name one mmo (or even video game in general) that was hyped up as much as peria is and actually met everyone's expectations
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>>168967392
Peria is not even as hyped as much as Tree of Failure and Albion online. It just one guy hyping around that is me
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>>168967392
>hyping a fucking Nexon game because it's 2D animu
fucking weebs
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>>168967957
weebs ruin everything
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>>168967957
Peria is being hyped by people wanting another Mabinogi. It does look pretty cool, but after ToS I don't know. BDO is the only game that lived up to my expectations, but I can't nolife enough to keep playing it.
>>
anything recently released i should know about? did the new aeriagames game die out already? is RO worth touching if i just want some fun without spending?

whats a popular mmog guild
i just want a decent game and people to play with
>>
>>168966773
Just pump normal skills to level 10, Finishers to level 6 and figure out what you enjoy using.
Even if you think you don't like the move put it to 10 at least and give it a shot.
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>>168968831
RO is cursed by nostalgia don't bother.

>popular mmog guild

nothing

>decent game

we all do
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>>168968862
oh i meant revelation online, sorry should have been more clear
what are people playing these days besides closers? ive always been iffy on private servers since i usually lose my progression
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>>168968858
Alrighty boss. Is this one of those games, where they refund your skills during a job advancement?
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Anyone else getting kicked out of rooms in CodeClosers? It kicks me out when I beat the bosses on the higher levels.
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>>168969613
you can refund at any point, click this button

it costs like 4k gold per point, which is almost nothing later in the game
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So, now that everyone here has had the time to actually play Revelation, what are your thoughts on it? is it as bad as the coons make it out to be? or are they just whining like they do about everything?

I've been waiting on full release, so I haven't played, but from what I've seen so far, it doesn't look as bad as everyone is saying.
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>>168972547
I see, thank you very much, honestly that helps a lot. A ton of the text in this game is literally gibberish.
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>>168972939
it's alright if you just wanna play a fairly generic mmo that's new.
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>>168972939

It's not a bad game at all, from what I played. But it's just not very good, either. The game just takes features that are popular/constantly begged for in other modern theme park mmos and then throws them all into this game.

None of the features in this game can be considered unique (except maybe being able to perform duo emotes with people, like being able to carry your gay homolust friend in your arms and kiss them over and other again). So yeah... Revo literally brings nothing new to the genre. Although I personally don't believe that games need to innovate in order to be fun and worthwhile, I can see why a lot of people would be turned off by how average the game can be.

Of course, by /mmog/'s standards, being an average game means it's the worst shit ever anyone caught enjoying the game is worse than Hitler.
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How do I shrink my character's tits in Mabi?
I want DFC.
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>>168521806

Alrighty folks, Krosmaga officially launches in just a few hours, we'll finally have the first little expansion in the form of a dungeon, that will give many different kind of cards of all rarities (but infinites) should be fun. I want that ninja dwarf.

Also, apparently there will be giveaways all day on frog streams, gotta be ready to grab these codes.
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>>168975221
Has ankama given out any codes after New Years?
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>>168975290

Not directly, but in the streamed tournament (free silver packs.) Picture here is one of the streamers given codes away.

I'm salty since on my last 2 gold packs I got dupes (amalia and kerub) so yeah, I'm totally hunting codes now for consolation.
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>>168976329
>streaming
lol
no thanks
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Am about to reinstall Age Of Wushu again.
Somebody please stop me...
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>>168977973
Why tho? I thought 4chan guild and the game itself is dead.
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>>168940990
No she did and its found out later that Ruari is a special needs child turn edge-lord.
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I spent 2 hours with a party up and asking random passerbys to help me with that RP mission, and I got nothing.
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>>168978382
What game?
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>>168978382
Use the help thing.
You know, the altruism quest board thing.
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>>168973891
That's a surprisingly decent review, wasn't this kind of what most people wanted though, something that brought 'all of the best' features into one package? I don't get why it's bashed so hard by every reviewer
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>>168978447
I did use the quest board.

But everyone has done everything already, so they all just sit in town all day playing shitty music and trying to sell their garbage for 100 million gold.
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>>168978532
They don't need to have the quest active to help. Just leave it up and someone will help you.
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>>168929493
1v1 in Blade and Soul was fucking amazing, even as a low level character and generally being pretty bad at it.
It's basically a fighting game.
Fuck summoners though. Assholes.

Other than that I've heard World vs World is pretty good in Guild Wars 2, although I haven't tried it myself.
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>>168978672
I second that, BnS PvP in the arenas, 1v1 or where your friends can jump in for those small portions of time, adds a very entertaining, unpredictable and interesting angle to normally linear fights, the game's combat system seems like it was designed as a PvP game first and enemies were just tacked on later.
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How do I prevent myself from creating a character based on anime character?
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>>168978991
Stop watching animememes.
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>>168978210
The game is surprisingly still alive and most oldfags from the 4chan guild moved to the 8ch one
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>>168979819
There's an 8ch guild?
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>>168979819
Which one is more alive, Aura Kingdom or Age of Wushu?
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>>168979957
Yes, GreatWall.

>>168979992
AK is still alive? Talking about the aeria one or the private server?
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>there will never be an MMO that's actually worth playing
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>>168980157
Private Server of course. Apparently, new Twin Saga suck dick, everyone in TS moved back to AK.
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>>168980223
I'm still waiting for the AK people to move back to Eden Eternal.
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>>168980331
>tfw EE was my favorite
>people moved to AK and it was okay, but not as good as EE
>Then TS came and people moved AGAIN to TS
>now people are spread across 3 games, 1 of which is shit and the good one is ded.
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>>168980201
>Dragon Quest X is the perfect MMO
>Ported to almost every console in the last 2 gens
>Never in English

I understand that it's expensive to localise and they're a business, yadda, yadda; but every time this gets a new expansion and ported to a new system I feel like killing myself.
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can i get avatars in closers private server?
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Elsword is fun.
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>>168984328
Elesis is shit though.
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