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***Read this guide for the upcoming GranBlueF event: http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/ and Yugioh /dng/

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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Show me your aggro shadow decks /svg/
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Post Witch
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>ywn take gobu on a date
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>>168489153
>similar to Hearthstone /hsg/ and Yugioh /dng/
Why are you doing that? Do you want to turn the generl to shit?
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Please need a concede. 96233
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>>168489298
Thank you, Dragonsong Forte!
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>>168489270
SUGOI MAHOU!
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Remove hags.
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>turn 1 insight
>turn 2 craig
>turn 3 craig
>turn 4 daria into double oogler and witch
>turn 5 levi + piercing

xDD
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>>168489863
Just
Themis
Bro
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>>168489863
>Themis all their darias away
>They concede
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6oDnm43HA
XDDD
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good thing themis counters Daria,

h-haha
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>>168490002
>>168489925
>>168489863
I love the "BUT THE DECK BRICKS!!" meme.
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>>168490062
Just themis bro
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>>168489863
>>168490045
>>168490062
When daria nuts she nuts hard
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>>168490045
should've mulliganed for lion-kun
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>>168490045
JUST
LION
SPIRIT
BRO
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>>168490351

>not dying to demonic strikex2 and piercing
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>no burgers
>thread dies
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Why do people take Dragon Emissary in Ramp decks?
Seems like a ultra shit card to me - 2pp draw 1 minus 1 pp
Would rather put in Unicas to combat aggro
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>when Pixie Mischief hits your immune Aurelia
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>>168490671

to more consistently draw your high cost cards and play them early.

Turn 6 satan or bahamut is nothing to scoff at
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>tfw almost got memed on by Eidolon
I almost wish I lost
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>>168490671
It's a 1pp win con/ramp tutor that fits into a bad hand combined with cavalier you can get some pretty crazy combos. T6-7 bahamuts is good shit.
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>>168490671
Do you think you're only allowed to run one 2pp card or something? People run both.
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concede to me!

20009
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>Pascale is a win more card
Fucking D1 shitters have no idea how flexible the card can be and useful it can be in many match ups

Using her even with one follower can give you a huge tempo advantage and forces your opponent to play on the defensive
She's also very good at setting up lethal boards in situations where without her it would take you a good 2-3 turns

She may not be an auto-include but running 1-2 of her is a very reasonable option
In a sense she's very representative of dirt rune's inherent flexibility and why you can never really net deck dirt rune
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>>168470073
For the people saying the rotations are tournament only, that picture looks like they're reviewing the rotation process of analog TCGs tournaments.
The below bullet points are pointing out how meta rotation would benefit the game's longevity, citing they don't want a single strategy or card dominating the meta game.
The other one says how it would make it easier for new players to compete with older more experienced players with a bigger card collection with the addition of rotation.
It could very well mean they're trying to implement it into the current game, regardless of tournament format or not.

tl;dr they're listing out the good points of rotation meaning it's probably it's going to be added into the game itself.
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>>168490845
thank you, forte!
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>>168490904
It would make sense considering the MTG background of the developers.
I think it's something that will 100% happen, but Im not sure it should happen right now.

The game is really too young.
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Please concede.

72664
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>people praising aggro shadow in this general
>turns out it's a complete casino deck as every single game literally comes down to wether you draw phantom howl
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>>168490996
Thank you, Vampyfag.
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>>168490904
I wish they waited to like 7 expansions

Just look at Hearthstone where Wild is the only fun mode
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>>168490851
Pascale is a slut.
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>>168490904
that pic is from 2016, just saying
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>>168491045

>what is cerb, mummy and reaper

the same as saying Daria needing Daria to win
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>>168489273
Don't be a paedophile
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>>168490904
>>168490993
I forgot to mention the title line on that placard reads "environment (meta) change is predestined!!"
So yea, looks like it's definately going to happen since there are no bad points listed at all. It's just a matter of when.
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>>168491124
I've played ten games. Ten games which could only be won with Phantom Howl closing out the game, because unlike Daria, Shadow runs out of breath real fucking fast.
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>>168490851
>dariaverse
>tempo advantage
[.]not rekt
[.]rekt
[.]tyrannosaurus rekt
[x]themist
altho I should agree, she's cute and good in meme decks
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>>168491201
Basically tldr
>We ain't nerfing shit, buy more packs, your daria be useless next expansion
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>>168491201
In the screen of the mod post, they're not even looking at clarke who's one of the biggest offenders
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>>168491307

>so you have multiple copies of Dr Boom and waiting for the nerf? Too bad
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How do I change back my background ? I changed it to arena a while ago and I can't find any option to change back today.
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>>168491369
>Next expansion won't have multiple dr boom v2 that will mandatory to t1 decks we promise
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>get win 1 game as forestcraft daily
>onl have basic cards and a couple roaches
>been going for 2 hours
>22 losses
I just want to die. I don't know how there is literally no one worse off than me right now, but I just want to go to bed now, but I want to finish my dailies.
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>>168491419
When you queue up for a game, the confirmation window that pops up after you pick your deck has that option.
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>>168491117
Could still be relevant, unless it's from early development and turned out to just be the current expansions we're getting. I need to see the article where the image was from.

>>168491364
Do you have a link to the famitsu article where the image was from?
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>>168491219

>turn 1 1-drop (3 cards)
>turn 2 2-drop (3 cards)
>turn 3 3-drop (3 cards)
>turn 4 reaper+ 2-drop (2 cards)
>turn 5 cerb (2 cards)

By right, you still have two cards every turn unless you face against control decks that just remove everything you play. Can't win those games.
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>>168491503
Nigga you don't even need ancient elves to win. You really shouldn't skip on math class back in school.
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>>168491140
>short=child
can you stop projecting your insecurities on me
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>>168491548
That would be if you draw perfectly. If you don't have Cerberus for turn 5 and onward your only option is to dump your hand full of 2-3 drops and then you resort to top decking.
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>>168491219
>Shadow runs out of breath real fucking fast.
Shitter not using Soul Conversion and Gobus.
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>>168491503
throw in a bunch of low cost minions and hope your opponent draws poorly.
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>>168491643

Obviously you draw into some Wabbit, Demonic Strike and Reaper instead, right?

I admit, it's a rather flimsy deck most of the time, but it can kick rune's ass good enough except for dirt.
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>>168491595
I don't have shit. I have 2 roaches. I am always 1 or 2 life off. always one or two mana short and then I get memed next turn by daria, real roach decks, dragonnewt discard and even lost to dshift once because I didn't draw roach, gobu or feena. I just got my win by the guy dcing. I never want to play forest again.
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>>168491503
Just do afk games until someone surrender, no reason to suffer that much.
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>>168491503

>only have 1 roach
>just slap all the meta cards I have in the deck and go unranked
>most opponents just concede after a few slyvan justice or may

Otherwise, fill it up with those good neutral cards (Dingdong, Unica, Lyrial). You are going to need to do that next week anyway.
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>>168491523

Thanks broski
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>>168491469
>>168491369
>>168491543
>>168491307
In Magic, cards are rarely nerfed and rarely banned despite being OP or format warping.
Recently we had the first ban of cards in Standard is almost an entire decade and the playerbase was really surprised about it.
I really believe that the devs will just copy Wizards and play it safe, this means:

>Standard Format
>Rotation of sets every 2 years
>Rare bans
>Rare nerfs
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>>168491806
>good meta cards
I wish I had some.
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>>168491818
No one would really expect nerfs to be done to physical card games. Even ygo banlist slowly release some cards back to limited/unlimited after some card expansions.
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>>168491846

>May, Sylvan Justice, Fairy Whisperer, Princess Elven Mage, Nature's Guidance

You know, just donning a tiger skin and some will just concede on turn 4 because it's the same old bullshit most treefuckers do.
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>>168491739
Well, craft third roach, that's the only card you really need. Add three gobus for tutoring, nature's for bounce, three elven princesses and two or three Finas for zero cost combo starters. Add DoD for ward penetration. And learn to count. Remember, you can easily do 17 damage on turn 7.
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>tfw right

Okay, now I am getting worried.
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I wish more people bought into the Dragon is T1 meme. Would make my life much easier.
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Fuck Albert. Worst fucking cancer card in the game. Just doesn't get the hate it deserves due to being in a weak class right now.
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>>168492097
It's always been implied in the story
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>>168492098
Is Nep the most fun deck to play in the game?
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>>168492098
>>168492220

I want to go back to praising Nep, but I am rather adamant on getting good with Aggro Shadow instead. I wish Dshift is never meta. Would definitely make my life much easier.
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>Make Eidolon hare deck
>Think its fun and win consistently at A2
>Get told i play a meme deck
>find out its right
>make a tier 1 net deck
>lose way more

Is everyone keeping it a secret?
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>>168491932
YGO does nerf cards, a bunch of iconic cards like CED, CCV and Sangan have been errata'd and taken off from the banlist.
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>>168491818

Didn't they just ban an uncommon from being played in standard format right now?
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http://usamin.love/card/gourmet_emperor_khaiza/j_evolve.wav
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>>168492282
post dick?
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>evolve Cudgel and Lion Spirit
>cast 3 Themis
>still lose to Daria
Fuck that fucking cancer deck, HOLY SHIT!
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71673
need concede
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>>168492097
Is this from uniqlo? Tell me this is from uniqlo, I'm going out to get one right now.
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>>168492358
Reflector mage, what a card that was.
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>>168492384

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.645AI.645AI.645AI.60COQ.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.645AS.645AS.645AS.67st2.67st2.67st2.642Ey.642Ey.640Xa.640Xa.640Xa.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.645QE.6BjSI.6BjSI.67sO6.67sO6.6BlPI.6BlPI.645Pw.645Pw.645Pw.67xlY.67xlY.67xlY.694Vo.694Vo

The fun thing about the deck is that you can swap all kinda cards in and out.

My favorite secret tech is Dark offering
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>tfw don't feel confident to play daria in ranked so i am doing rune dailies in unranked
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>>168492457
thx Traeg
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>>168492412
Sounds like a player error
I've had great success cucking Daria drops with Themis
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>>168492412
You forgot to heal bro.
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>>168492097
>>168492143
I don't get it. It wouldn't make any sense for Luna to be the plushy.
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>go first
>lose
nice game shadbabs
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>>168492119
>worst cancer card
>does 10 in 1 turn
>roach can do 20
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>>168492523
Japan has this thing where old/loved items get their own souls and start living
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>>168491932
Oh I know, I used to play ygo after all.
I still cannot believe they work with the whole "release shit in the OCG, then months/years later released in the TCG"
Also did they even errated Frog the Jam? That shit ruined so many frog cards holy shit

>>168492304
That's what he said.
Indeed ygo does it, but really slow, some of these new erratas aren't in the tcg yet despite being effective on japan months ago.

>>168492358
Yeah Reflector Mage.

Wizards fucked up by creating the whole Copy Cat combo shit, the Reflector Mage ban was a pre empty counter measure.
The Emrakrul ban was a nerf to Delirium decks.
The Smuggler Copter ban was nerf to aggro in general.
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>aggro shadow
>against daria
>didn't get a reaper
>got my shit pushed in by turn 5 daria and lost
>next game also against daria
>got a reaper on turn 4
>also got my shit pushed in by turn 5 daria
>still won
Really cause you to contemplate
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Anyone got any Monika artwork?
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>>168492568
Roach needs a bunch of other cards and setup. Albert just randomly wins people games in T2 they had no business of winning.
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>>168492568
>roach with the support of multiple cards can do 20 in one turn

fixed
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Concede please.

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>>168492523
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>Banner memes for dailies
>It's a haven
>No, it's a sun haven
>He stalls out to t9 as haven's often do
>I drop my leo
>He's spamming cleric lancers and shit because of haven's 1pp draw fucking 2 amulets
>Can't cleanly get the board, have to be careful because of blackened from both my and his attacks and I'm well out of cards from a lion spirit board clear
>Sword can't draw for dick let alone at the effectiveness of fucking fuck your shit hag
>Ebin t11 guaranteed odin of everyone has banish your shit if you're anything that's not unga bunga :^)
>Just keeps spamming 10pp of wards and heals cause he hasn't been below 5 cards in hand since like turn 3 so he can play full pp high value plays the entire game
>Ebin lucifer ward every body has :^)
>Bleed out and die with him at 20 hp
Game's fucking stupid tbqh. Even when I win, banner's fucking stupid.
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>>168492662
Thanks dragon lady.
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How can I improve my pure seraph?
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>it's another "dariafag gets a godly draws and BMs until the end of the match"
I hate reruns.
How the fuck can you act so smug when you are playing the strongest, most broken bullshit deck in the game? What is wrong with you?
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53920
I would also appreciate a quick concede, please.
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>>168492119
>sword ever being weak
Stupid B-rankposter.
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>>168492778
Fuck me, forgot image.
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>>168491932

ygo banlist doesn't do shit except promote whatever is the newest flavor of the month. They will ban and limit whatever cards represent the most threat to their newest archetype and only after they release a new shit will they unban it. Aka fuck balance,moar monies.
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>>168492810
Thank you, Seraph emblem bro.
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Srs question. Not like it really matters but when you tutor in this game does it then shuffle your deck at all?
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Just now faced Daria on the ladder.
Daria on the turn 4 and the second one on the turn 5. Funny story.
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Somebody stop me from doing this.
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56145

Can I get a concede?`
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>>168492992
Since the game does not have a "put this card on top of your deck" mechanic I would assume no.
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>>168492992
That's a good question with no answer. Additionally all it would do is create gambler's fallacy scenarios since there's no scry mechanics.
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>>168493147
STOP
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>>168492782
Lack of awareness clearly.
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>>168493152
Thanks best waifu Forte
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>>168492601
shadow got extremely powerful cards this expansion that only get stronger with more expansions. i can easily see it becoming a cancer class in a few months
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>>168493147
You would be creating a very fun, very bad card. You could hypothetically have him out on turn 2 or 3, but in most cases it would put you in a really shit position if they have a counter.
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>>168493147
You have so much to live for, anon, don't do it.
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>>168493147
Absolutely not. He has his moments but it's very reliant on drawing a chain of cards in a specific order. Yeah, it's great if you nail the meme combo but it's something to do for fun, not as an actual strategy. If you don't have atomy's, you have many, many other more important cards to consider crafting. Cards that are neutralcraft core or core to a leader's deck mechanics. That's 4 golds per atomy you're basically wasting. Golds that'll let you actually win elsewhere.
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>>168493147
Craft some castles while you are at it.
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>>168493147
Never go full meme anon.
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>>168493336
>tfw never get to banner, arthurian light, banner-oathless, latham evo ascetic, then spam knight shits.
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>>168489240
s-sauce
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>>168493026
Faced a Skullfane memer a while ago, biggest surprise I've had in months.
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>1 mana dance of death
who the fuck thought this was a good idea
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>>168493563
I believe some form of translation is in order.
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>>168493563
Have a bigger version.
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Do you really need Frontguard General in Control Sword if you have 3 Aurelia, 3 Amelia, and 3 Veteran Lancers?

I currently run 2 and am considering to remove him or lower him to 1.
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>>168493918
>Do you really need Frontguard General in Control Sword
yes
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>>168493918
>Keep track of matchups for 20-50-100 games to get a good sample size agaisnt the many decks
>Make a note of issues
>Adjust you deck list to help with the meta
>Keep track of matchups for 20-50-100 games to get a good sample size agaisnt the many decks
>Make a note of issues
>Adjust you deck list to help with the meta
>Keep track of matchups for 20-50-100 games to get a good sample size agaisnt the many decks
>Make a note of issues
>Adjust you deck list to help with the meta
Congratulations, you're not actually playing card games.
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>>168493918

The only reason to run csword in this meta is to shit on all over roach player. Roach player hates big,big ward. What do you think anon ?
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>>168494343
Concede before it's too late.
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>>168494343
SANDBAG! SANDBAG RIGHT NOW SAVE YOURSEEEEELF!
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>>168494343
Be careful, if you fail you drop back down to B0.
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>>168494425
it's too late, unless he wants to lose two, win one for the rest of his life
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>>168494462
what you do is concede 100 back to back
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>>168494462
You just sandbag back down to the bottom of your letter then repeat. God help him if he steps into A cause he's fucked at that point.
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Are you ready to have to play through the Granblue tutorial for some sleeves??!
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>>168494462
You can't gain score while in trials
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>>168493658
Materials
Low Cost Earthrite Cards

First use the earthri...

Damn it! You bricked again!
You're always like this

This brick is your life.
(Lit: Your right hand will never shine for essential cards - a jap meme, destiny draw,etc.)

No matter what deck you try you still can't get to master.

Just use Dorothy next time.
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>>168494591
Won't need to do that.

But you will have to win 9 games with Dragon.
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>>168494539
>>168494482
You can't cancel trials. You'll just endlessly repeat them without score rewards until you either pass or lose your sanity.
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>play neph against dragon
>use soul conversion on Unica on turn 3
>opponent concedes
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>>168494413
>>168494425
>>168494430

why should i have thrown ?

>tfw need to live one turn to win with seraph and you pray they dont have a storm nigger or odin

also i won lol
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Need a concede

53853
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>>168494753
Congratulations, you'll now be able to be matched up against masters in a rank meta even more cancerous.
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>>168494753
Welcome to shitter purgatory, your monthly score grind just got slower.
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New and trying sword for the first time. Anyone have suggestions? The bahamut is a standin until I can get something more specific to the deck like a Tsubaki or something.
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>>168494671
>Just use Dorothy next time.
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AYYYY
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>take two, game 1
>sword altered fate's then passes turn 9
>suspect something is up, but fill the board anyway
>turn 10 Bahamut
>clear it and fill board again thinking I'm safe
>Bahamut again
wow, what a fucking way to start a T2 run. i forgot why i stopped playing this shitty mode
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>>168494791
well I cant really improve if i face shitters every game,whats the problem?

except this

>>168494817
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>>168494783
Thanks anon
>potemkin
you play guilty gear?
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>>168489273
>>168494817
>dumb gobu poster
>doesn't even have her in the better game
dumb dumb poster
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>>168494896
Being able to play anything but cancer

>>168494909
No, I needed a user name and I remembered it from Carnival Phantasm
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>>168494920
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>>168494920
>better game
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>>168494961
Carnival Phantasm is the best canon.
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>>168494920
I wanted to but it's such classic gacha horseshit and the game literally fights your ability to play it. All so you can basically mash attack and grind for the privilege of grinding flip chests so you can progress while waiting for gw to bet and lose all your crystals so you'd be able to actually get shit.
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>>168494920
Is Granblue one of those mobages where you kind of have to be glued to your phone whenever your stamina is refreshed just to get anywhere decent? And is it true it's going to shit with power creep?

All the qt girls make it really enticing...
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>>168494990
i need this image in full
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>>168494920
>better game

lmaoing @ your life right now
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>>168494920
I bet you don't even have her animated in shadowverse
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>>168495040
Yeah, enjoy whaling for zoi and the other limiteds. Just download their art, voices then move on.
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One and only official tierlist
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>>168495109
>Tfw I have a whale-tier team for Granblue
>Didn't reroll, haven't spent a penny on it
>Only play it occasionally
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>mulligan a card
>game gives it back to you

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>tfw no humpty dumpty leader
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>Haven't played in 2 (two) weeks
What am I missing lads?
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Anyone mind helping out by conceding?
Id:25217
Tell me if you want to trade
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>>168495109
Damn, thanks for that. I've gone down that road before with other mobage and I really don't want to go through that again.
Thankfully SV is a game I started pretty much near release so I don't feel too pressured to "catch up" even though it's a different circumstance as a CCG.
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>>168491739
i also noticed already when i was still in low ranks that forest is a really underwhelming deck when it's incomplete.
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>>168495394
>mulligan a card
>game gives two copies back to you
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>>168495489
literally nothing
The game is still trash
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>>168495498
Thanks
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http://i.imgur.com/nbN676A.jpg
This is what Gobu deserves.
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>>168495221
>Seraph being more cerebral than Roach
Yeah, no.
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>>168495592
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>>168495592
>mulligan 2 cards
>game gives me the exact same 2 cards back
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>>168495601
how do i delete image in that site
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>>168495601
how did you get this picture of me and my wife
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>>168495668
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Is there something with the servers? I just got a win for literally nothing. The game before I had to wait until I run out of time while the game only tells me connection unstable.
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>>168492874
Please help me improve this.
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>>168495782
Your roar scared them away.
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>>168495601
this seems awfully familiar
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>>168493918
Bro, if I could run 5 frontguard and had space for 3 white paladin without maid leader drawing her I'd fucking do it

You literally cannot have enough wards in this meta. You also need as many wards that aren't x/2 as possible.
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Should I craft a 3rd nep for a nep deck?
Also 2 or 3 mordecai? (have none)
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>>168492874
>>168495851
what rank do you play in
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>>168495937
No. Only 2 Neps per Nep deck anon.
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>>168495601
source please
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>>168495394
>mulligan 4/5 drops
>given a 5 and two 8/9s
>draw the following for the next 4 turns
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>make deck specifically to fuck elves over
>queue into zero (0) elves
>go back to haven
>HAHA HERE'S ALL THE ELVES YOU WANTED
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>>168495906
Poor Ruu ruu, she had a hard life.
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>>168496028
just do what i do, dont play the game
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Repeat after me: Mordecai is fair and balanced, giving much counterplay to the opposing player
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>>168496028
Just play control full wards and heals sun satan.
Aggros will always concede and satan might give tou a chance against control.
Just pray for not dshift.
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>>168496114
you fucking suck. everytime i play morde, he gets odin'd immediately
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>>168496164
thats why you play nep
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>>168496114
>Magical skeleton of turn 8 do nothing
So dangerous~
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>>168496114
Mordecai is fair and balanced, giving much counterplay to the opposing player if said player made some effort to gain board control, for example by spending his/her evolution points.
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>>168489153
>winning 9 games with Dragon in 2 weeks

is that even possible?
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>>168495993
Thanks, appreciate the reply.
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>>168496164
Too bad I play T2 and don't have Odin.

Also great, 4 classes have exactly one card to deal with him

>>168496219
>What is urd
>What is bahamut
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>>168495040
>caring about managing your AP in a game where they drown you with AP pots
I literally have access to more AP than I know what to do with.
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>>168495993
3 Neps, 2 Mordecais.
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>>168496253
Try your luck and play OTK Dragon
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>>168496114
>Can't beat T3 deck
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>>168496253
Turn 6 baha/satan tho
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>>168496278
So why aren't you complaining about Urd and Bahamut instead of Mordecai then?

That's like going against forest and whining about Elven Princess Mage.
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>open with insight
>2 levi evolve
>1 1pp piercing rune
>turn 6 0pp daria
>turn 7 1pp daria
>still lose to discard dragon

I really can't believe I won that game. Discard Dragon actually pretty sick if you get your combo going. We need more cards like Luxfang/Trail of Light and the deck will be viable.
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>>168495109
God, I've been playing GBF for over a year now and I never felt constrained by any of the shit this guy's writing about, the only grind that was actually tedious was the fucking class IV unlock one because they force you to do coop along with needing a billion weapon elements. Never rerolled or spent dosh on the game either.
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>>168496308
Have you ever played it? How often would you say you get the wincon?
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>>168496023
Nice. You got the game in the bag
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>>168496114
>t8 do nothing
Everybody has better dude. If you weren't a meme deck you already would have killed him with face damage
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>Open 4/7 from free packs
>3 Legos
Have 4 Neps and 3 Bahas now.

>>168496603
The tricky part is getting another Altered Fate after you discard your hand. You may want to put 3 Trail of Lights.
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>>168496393
Because every class has removal to deal with him that there's always a way. The problem with Mordecai is, that only 3 classes have banish/transform/bounce to deal with him. The only neutral banish card is Odin.
Plus, there is no gain in killing him whatsoever. It'd be fine if he'd came back at the beginning of that players next turn, since at least he wouldn't be able to attack with him. He'd still give some value and be a magnet for removal, while giving ways to handle him.
With what he is now, he'd be valueable in any class basically, while gaining even more merits through shadowcrafts sacrifice shenanigans.

Most counterarguments also boil down to "hurr, just have board control/win before t8". It's basically saying, yeah he might be broken, but it's not a problem of the current meta, cause it's too slow anyway.

>>168496685
Take 2, mate
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>>168496253
I'm on a 7 win streak with ramped storm dragon. They're so used to storm that they think they're fine then wham, 5 more damage than they expected.
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>>168492714
>Bannermeme
>Leo
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>>168496298
I regularly ran out.

>>168496418
Do you ever meme with den, noxious and pendants?
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>HEY GUYS LE NEPNEP IS A GOOD DECK I WIN WITH IT ALL THE TIME IN A0 SO IT MUST BE SLEEPER OP HAHA DID I MENTION THAT I ALSO VAPE AND ONLY PLAY SHADOW???
This is the last time i got tricked into making a shitty deck by /svg/
Neph is trash and the only win i could get was against some weird-ass ghetto dragon deck.
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>>168496847
You were probably playing some shitty 4 follower costs version. You need to play it with 5 to have success.
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post OTK dragon list, i need some memes in my life for the upcoming event
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>>168496779
Only got muh 1 alberto-kun and didn't draw my fangblades.

>>168496847
Neph is fine, you are not.
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>>168495939
A
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>>168496905
play saha+luci ramp instead
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>>168496847
This is my log after a 12 win streak with Nep. Everything below this is a loss as well.
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>>168496905
Feel free to toss Trail of Light in if you feel like its better than something else.
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>>168496984
here

i went to AA1 with this, replace the moon bunny with prism or temple defender if you want

also its 3 seraph
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concede please 90118
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>>168497139
>tfw they don't kill moon bun on curve, letting you drop a shrine knight maiden then a protectoress followed by hand dumping boosts into her until he's a monster
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>>168496847
>Dragon
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>>168497160
thanks you Vampy!
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>>168497230
theres this one time i won against c-blood with surprise moon bunny after he odined 2 of my seraph

pretty funny match
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>>168497127
Thanks
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>>168496747
Having board control is the natural and intended counter to Mord. Odin is just an incidental counter released in DE. This game has never rewarded the "stall forever" mentality of play; it wants players to fight for board control every turn. Cygames continues to release cards like Satan and Seraph because of this.
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>>168491636
She's a kid, anon. It's obvious to anyone who's played RoB or GBF

>>168494920
Peak RoB was better than both
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>>168494889
just ward it lmao
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>>168497335
She could be like otohime's bodyguards, just a midget.
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>>168497312
It's fucking stupid because Bahamut and odin are a core meta hard cap on non-cd amulets and combo plays that render entire archetypes unplayable. As neutral cards even.
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>stuck before AA3 for 3 days
I just can't break it. Any ideas?
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>>168497413
Play Forest
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>>168497368
No, she's a literal kid, I know that's weird when you're used to 1000 years old lolis.
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>>168497413
Play Daria/roach.
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/OURGUY/
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>>168497442
>>168497464
Doesn't work when everybody here counters them. I had even bigger succes with Seraph because most control decks stopped tech Odin.
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>>168497552
Play midsword
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>tfw you stopped saving the odins for the mordekai and instead use them on the khawy
>winrate goes from 10% to 40%
I finally figured it out
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>>168496847
>>168497102
i'm so glad i vialed my 3rd animated nep to pay for some golds in other decks.
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>>168497632
DELET
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>T2
>Enemy drops Khawy
>Gets a free 3-for-1
>Board state crippled, but I have card advantage over the game I can come back
>Drops a 2nd one
>mfw
Why the fuck is he a silver card? At least if he were a golden/lego I'd only have to worry about 1.
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>>168497102
>after a 12 win streak

This is why I don't buy those "win streak" pics.

Unless it's Daria or roach.
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>>168497924
Fresh from just now, I hope it cheers you up. Also from T2
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>>168497552
They didn't. You just were lucky they didn't draw him.
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>>168497924
Literally the Kabal Talonpriest of SV.
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>>168497882
Why did he evolved a follower with storm?
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>>168497924
I remember someone dropping 3 Khawys a week ago. Fun game.
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>>168498032
intimidation tactics
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>>168497924
>if he were a golden/lego I'd only have to worry about 1.

Ran into a dude with 2 Bahamuts a few days ago I would've been pretty salty if I hadn't saved my removal
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>>168498000
Sword and Nep don't really tech them. Blood is nonexistent and Dragon is very rare for me.
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>>168497413
control sword
>>
>tfw only 7 more hours till shitters prime time so I can continue climbing without much resistance
What should I do till then?
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>>168498150
>Blood is nonexistent
What rank? I encounter way more Cblood than Nep and as often as Sword in AA2. Oh and most of my Sword opponents definitely uses Odin.
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This is some weird situation. I don't think I can get out of it because of the other shit he played, but Bahamut vs Koga Kunoichi is kinda funny to see
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>>168494889
Dicklist anon?
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>>168497413
>Stuck in A2 for a month
It hurts VA-11 HALL-A bro, I cant stop playing meme decks
>>
Read the newbie FAQ. Didn't really answer what I had hoped for, so I would appreciate it if someone had some time to spend to spoonfeed me between turns or whatever.

If I were to pick this up as a new player, how long would it take for me to put together a deck that can compete with people that have practically all the cards in the game? How much would that cost? That is, assuming you can also buy packs like in every other F2P card game.

And if you feel like writing an essay, and if you've played other card games, what made this one fun for you over them?
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>>168498401
Yeah, sword wants at least 2 odins. Can get away with cutting the 3rd for a Fangblade.
>>
>when you decide to fire up shadowverse for a couple of games but your first opponent is a rune deck so you immediately lose interest
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>>168497139
Wouldn't Unica be better than Mainyu in the 2 slot? Also explain that randomass moon bun.
>>
>>168498494
you can make a t1 deck off the bat if you get lucky with your starting packs
>>
Anyone have a good elana list?
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>>168498494
You get about 80-90 free packs. You will be able to craft both of the two T1 decks in the current meta just from that.
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>>168498620
>>168498584
Guess it's worth a shot then. I don't really have money to put into a new game because I want to use some in another cash grab game atm so not being stuck grinding F2P pity packs with some garbage ragtag deck is a huge plus.
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>>168498123
Those fringe cases can happen
But with silvers you can have up to 5 copies if not more
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>>168498583
mainyu is pretty useful in removalverse
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>>168498583
mainyu early gameis great, they would be forced to trade something into it. unico would just get removed 75% of the time and youll get your healing with prayer/radiance/curate anyway. works great aginst rune too

one moon bun because i like the card and it can infinitely trade followers. its not mandatory you can replace it if you want
>>
Where's my daily dose of satancat
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>
>>168498698
You can get one expensive control deck right off the bat if you dust everything you got from free packs (as long as your roll was not complete shit) but you will be limited to playing only it for a long time. Current T1 decks cost more than 2 times less than average control deck so yep, you can build 2 T1 decks without spending a buck.
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Need a concede pls.
85847
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>>168498987
He said on twitter his stream would be late today.
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>>168497882
Trivial hard removal for everyone was a mistake

>>168497924
Play shadow with only standard/DE cards
That's why
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>>168499130
Shadow was still strong in T2 in DE
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>>168499025
Thanks Vampy-Chan!
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>>168498494
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 1400 gold total
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>168498698
Don't rank up too quickly (stay in B until you have "viable" decks for four classes). Manage your resources and be careful about liquefying golds and legendaries before you have played for and researched the game for a couple of weeks.
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>Play Cblood teched against daria and aggro
>always against control and dshift
>switch to dshift
>only battle darias and aggro

How do I beat the system?
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>>168498987
up
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>>168498698
You get approximately 7-8 packs a week minimum which means you're gonna get a couple golds and about a 65% chance of getting a legendary per week. Reroll your 20g missions for a chance to get more.

While full card libraries do have higher raw power and topdeck consistency, fewer copies of cheaper cards are still able to win reliably. t. I have a decent winrate against control decks despite having a deck worth less than 1/5th of theirs.

If you're a long time ccg player that knows how he likes to play and is fine for playing a single or double deck for weeks at a time, the starter shit is about 30k vials.
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>>168498451
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>>168499448
Thanks mate, much appreciated!
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>>168499224
At least you get over with it fast.

Meanwhile

>7 ranked wins for a stander pack (aka bunch of bronze cars that renders little vials)
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>>168499179
Keyword, in t2

>>168499224
rip

>>168499475
What's the other 3-5 cards? Just ms paint the second page on.

Fow would I go about learning to play forest so I could make a non-roach budget combo forest?
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>>168499417
By waiting for next expansion
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>>168499018
Is control really expensive but Tier 2 or do you just separate it from other T1 deck types because it's expensive?

>>168499450
I like control decks and decks that rely on surviving until performing some retarded win condition combo. I guess it's just satisfying to either "come back" from what seems like a loss or feel the dread slowly creeping up on your opponent as your win condition draws closer and they feel the pressure.

>>168499218
Is it not possible or just really hard to downrank? Guess I'm in for being stomped over and over again if I accidentally do that.

>>168499202
Thanks. I'll look that up in the archive when I get around to downloading and playing during the weekend or something. You make it sound like I really ought to have many decks I can play though. Like more than 1-3. Why?

I assume I might face the same people in ranked matches many times in a row and it'd help with that or something?

I thought people would generally just play one, two, or maybe three expensive/good decks they like and stick to that/those.
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>>168499553
>>168499448
>>168498987
This is why people who follow streamers are cancer.
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>>168499597
3 DoDs.
>non-roach combo forest
no such thing
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>>168499585
>Eh, this daily pack is gonna be shit
>Get two legos
What goes around comes around


>>168499612
Just save it in a txt file dude.

If you know what you like, you can bust a nut making it then just enjoy life. If you don't and/or you're new, being able to play a lot of decks with different leaders until you find a deck archetype and leader mechanic you like without killing your ability to play shit is better. Regardless of which route you go, you'll be maintaining 6 other decks for doing dailies.

They mostly do play 1-3ish decks once they settle down. Many people start making meme decks with cards viewed as underrated instead of spamming shit like otk roach over and over.

Each letter rank has 3 number ranks c0,1,2 etc. You can drop number ranks, like from D1 to D0. But you cannot fall letters, like from C0 to D2. You're matched up against people +/- 2 letter ranks so once you're in A rank you're able to get bent over by masters players.
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>>168499475
No WoF?
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>>168499612
>Is control really expensive but Tier 2 or do you just separate it from other T1 deck types because it's expensive?

Only control that is T1~ish i like this meme is ramp saha-luci dragon. Sword control is T2 and its not terrible, and control blood is a T3 meme.
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>>168499920
It's either DoD or wotf
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>>168499867
Come on nigga, I need forest for my dailies but I don't have shit. I looked over the cards but I don't know how to slambang it all together

Silver/bronze
Crystalia lily gives you a shitty 2 drop and added removal to counter when you can't mulch your tokens.
Woodkin lets you kill a fatty with a fairy
Woodlands lets you kill shit or take out a banner/elana/ptp.
Pegasus elf lets you sacc a fairy into a fatty.
Elemental lance also lets you trade for value.
Vines lets you maul something without mulching your board.
Elf child may synergizes with def changes and bounces as needed.
Pixie mischief lets you bounce and sets his board back a turn.
Yuel/elf tracker/elven archery/metallurgist/archer to setup trades

Ass ton of add fairy to hand
Fairy bringer^1/Elven princess^2/Lionel^1/Feena^1/Baalt^2 give you 0 cost cards to combo with
Fair bit of +atk/+def to your shitty tokens letting them trade for value like fairy dancer, mana botanist,

Okami/tam lin/ Mana elk/ Treant/Archer force them to stop hitting your face and trade or die letting you stall into your win con
More of an added bonus but can't attack's leads into woodkin/forest spirits/swords to woodlands

Elder treant is ghetto rush. Fairy knight is some understated rush

Giant/gigas/canopies can give you some cheap wincon that isn't understatted due to its effects
Fairy beast helps if you live that long

You get a good bit of help from neutral cards as well. Especially since you're tits up for wards against aggro, you don't have many durable offset stat followers to chew up offset aggro followers nor offensive offset stat followers to chew up durable followers like yurius. Only gets better the more gold/legos you draw. It really helps if you get titania's/olivia and some of the wincon legos like lucifer/bahamut.You also live and die on getting enough combo to trade for value to stay ahead. There's more board clear than ever so no liza's also kicking you in the nuts. You could probably get to B.
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>>168499612
>Is it not possible or just really hard to downrank? Guess I'm in for being stomped over and over again if I accidentally do that.

A problem for many new players is them making one of the strong meta decks and flying up in ranks quickly while having few or no decks for other classes. Then get like a Dragon daily and get matched up against AA-Master players with no deck for that class.
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>>168499612
Control decks are t2 at best because of various reasons, one of them being autolosing to Dshift, the designated control slaying combo deck.
>I like control decks and decks that rely on surviving until performing some retarded win condition combo.
Seraph and Dshift are the decks for you then. Both of them are fairly cheap.
>You make it sound like I really ought to have many decks I can play though. Like more than 1-3. Why?
Because dailies "win X matches with some class" exist and you need to do them somehow.
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>>168499597
You know doing basic maths would tell you he's running 3 DoDs
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>aggro is effectively dead

who's ready for the pirate warrior of shadow verse?
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>>168499612
The tiers are severely distorted this expansion and aren't really that descriptive as a result.

t1 is basically, otk roach which has 4 ways to obliterate you with complete disregard for any and everything you do. tempo rune which more often than not links its draw spellboost engine to just play more raw pp of cards per turn than anything you can match until you run out of board clear and die. And saha-luci ramp dragon which is more a condemnation of a neutralcraft deck than a dragon deck. If it can draw its ramp it's shitting out hard win cons 3-4 turns early and you basically die. It's extremely depending on a full list of nearly half legendaries and/or drawing a long chain of cards in order.
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>cat's stream doesnt load
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>168499882
>Just save it in a txt file dude.
I'm at work. I don't want to email this shit to myself.

>>168499959
>>168500095
>>168500032
I'll keep those in mind.

Is there no play mode outside the ranked where the dailies can be done though? Seems pretty shitty that you have to sacrifice your master's rank if you get there just to do some daily.

>>168500197
OTK roach sounds like some top tier cancer.
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>>168500095
>Because dailies "win X matches with some class" exist and you need to do them somehow.
I do them by rerolling quests for a week
t. single deck AA shitter
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>>168500257
First accept Roach as your lord and saviour before starting the game or you won't get anywhere.
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>>168499612
>I like control decks and decks that rely on surviving until performing some retarded win condition combo
D-Shift (Rune) and Seraph (Haven) should fit that. One of the T1 decks, an aggressive combo deck, Roach (Forest) could also (depending on what version of it you make) fit that criteria.
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>>168500231
Buy more internets.
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>there's no way he has another themis
What other memes do you fall for
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>>168500164
We're already there with the metastasized tumor that is the neutralcraft deck core cards.

>>168500257
It's even better when you have anything or ward with 4 or more attack on t8. They slam a wolf into it to get a 0 cost return all followers to the owners hand next turn. Afterwards they can play a >20 damage combo from hand killing you. The other cards it has makes sure you can't kill it before then and it can still kill you from hand at multiple points earlier.
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>>168500476
>there's no way he has another whole souled swing
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>>168500476
>no way dshitter can get past these 3 wards on turn 7
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>>168500527
this. every single time.
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>>168500476
>Can't hold back because he's going to play a tutor'd seraph on t8 then fully release it on t9
>If I don't hold back, I get cudgel'd on t4, Lion spirit'd on t5 themis'd t6&7 while he's drawing about 6 additional cards the whole way while i'm down to 1-3
Just don't like the hag at all.
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>>168500579
just tech 3 odins bro
it seriously helps to pull even 1 of em
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>>168500476
>there's no way he has a way to deal three (3) damage to finish me off, he already used all his evo points, three blade mages, two demonic strikes, one angelic snipe and one magic missile, and he has only one card in his hand
>magic missile into magic missile into angelic snipe
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>>168500661
>More neutralcraft cancer
Hate the game so much
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>>168500661
>tfw don't even have 1
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The survey packs are here
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>>168500762
>tfw you have a banner and resolve up so you get 3 7/5 wards with storm
Hahahaha jk, enjoy ur odin bro :^)
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>>168500817
resolve is giving storm now? thats just broken.
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>>168500476
>There's no way May will hit my Reaper with 4 followers on board
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>>168500927
it doesn't he's just a shitter
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>>168500927
Guess it's just rush. I have storm out the ass so I never notice

>>168500941

>>168501001
Rude
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>>168500476
>>168500527
>ok sylvan justice on a shitter, time for rabbit necro
>nope, another sylvan justice

>if he doesn't daria again, it's pretty much gg
>he has daria and he uses ANOTHER daria the turn after

>gotta go all in and pray he doesn't have le balanced lion spirit
>he has it

>alright he's lethal next turn unless he has something big
>saha luci to save his ass
>JUST UTSU MY SHIT UP SENPAI

FUCK YOU
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what if bahamut was an officer so you could drop castle in the sky on turn 9 and get 14/13 with storm on turn 10
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>>168501158
If you want a 13/13 with storm then just run Laura Control Blood
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>>168500661
Wonder, what will happen if I put Odin in OTK-Roach.
He'll probably be a real stinker.
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>Need to win 2 more ranked matches
>Only 15 more minutes before I have to go to work
>Full tilt
Someone save me
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>>168501279
As otk roach you should be able to kill seraph on the turn he plays it or you're doing something wrong.
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>>168501279
If you are going to tech Odin in Forest decks you should rather play White Wolf decks.
If you can't win the game with OTK Roach against Haven before turn 9 you don't deserve the win desu
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Trying to do the 20 private matches against different players challenge again, currently at 10/20!
Don't concede, I'll pass turns (or play things that hurt me).

Name: KillMe (so you know if you joined me before)
ID: 18965
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>>168501360
Pull out the aggro deck and turn your brain off

Remember trading = bad
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>>168501534
But my points
I'm so closing in on Masters
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>>168501639
c'mon mike you can do it
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>>168501534
>Aggro
>in this meta
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h-hear
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>>168501183
>archer

This is something I did not seen a while
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>>168501774
I tried to meme with, pixie paradise, petal fencers and lionel to reduce archer/okami or elf of the gemstones to slam them mf petals then drop a tam lin or treant. Was fun.
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we doing it bois! 10 games lost in a row, 7 times went in 1st and everytime no matter the deck I bricked

fuck you rng
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JUST ONE MORE GAME
I'M RUNNING LATE
AAAAAAH
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>>168501360
>>168501639
>>168501906
shut teh f*ck up ni**er
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Is there a list of english voice actors?

I really like the english Veteran Lancer voice, it reminds me of Effie from FE:Fates.
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>16 damage from hand on turn 7
Roach is retarded.
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>>168501891
Keep record of what you fought, how you lost, then tweak. It's not the rng at all

>>168501906
Stop being a degenerate nigger and go to work faggot.
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>>168501906

Nigga, just go to work or w/e

Your points don't decay. Go at it tomorrow morning.
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>>168501885
I forgot about her after leaving C and getting set of Mays
God Speed deck memer
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>>168501954
no shit fucking sherlock, I keep records and these decks didn't fail this hard ever EVER
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>>168502187
I hope Bahamut gets banned in T2, before that fucking card started existing I had more fun with drafts than ranked play.
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>>168502187
>Front lines
God bless
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>>168502327
I'll be pissed if baha isn't banned period. it's basically a game over for anyone using non-cd amulets.
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>>168499612
if you've played other CCG/TCGs before, you can win with any incomplete deck in low to mid rank. that's why it's the best place to try each deck out and see which ones you like.
i also wouldnt vial anything at all until you've gotten more used to the game. again, at the beginning you won't need good cards to rank up.
i only start vialing and creating cards once i notice that winstreaks are harder to keep up.

once you start vialing, do aim for one main deck that you want to play. don't spread yourself too thin either.
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>>168501436
>Rowen joins
>plays 3 JO crystals
>doesn't play any followers
>gets me to 3HP
>then concedes
What did I just witness?

Anyway, same ID (18965), come hit me in the face! Now up to 13/20
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>>168501436
that's what you get for being a disgusting vampyfag, idiot
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>>168502429
I feel really bad when I drop Bahamut on some Ambush Sword or Sky Castle decks.

If I wasnt just trying to finish my dailies asap I would probably hold off on playing him against these guys.
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NEP ALWAYS WINS BABYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>168502554
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Oh yes baby, another animated gold. This is the shit I'm living for
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>>168502567
I'm still waiting for the day I fail to ramp my polyphonic then it gets bahamuted next turn so I can send kikegames a fucking recording. The game is just such utter fucknig bullshit when everybody is taking 3 board+amulet clear that stacks with their class board clear, 3 fucking banish anything, 3 rush 6 dmg+restore 4 hp, 3 heal 4 hp/4 burn, 3 cocytus or DoD, plus goblinmounts and all the other neutralcraft cancer.
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>>168502554
Shut up dorke
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>>168502429
Bahamut is manageable if you draft a lot of hard removal and always save one in hand with him in mind, and don't overcommit from turn 10 onwards. He's oppressive, yes, but by no means an instawin.
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>>168502729
You really hate neutral cards, you must play some retarded shit like Elana or Dirtrune. The Control Meta is the best meta.
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>>168502839
The point is you gave up a turn or multiple turns to setup something, probably built your deck around it, but basically everybody wants to take Odin's if they wont already kill you, everybody can take saha-luci which is insane value, everybody can take Cocytus which is basically draw neutral remove opponents removal to clear the way for your win con, everybody can take bahamut which clears even amulets and is a solid win con itself. There's a problem when the non-neutral cards are just filler to hang out while your neutralcraft wins.

>>168502895
Castle Arthur's resolve, ambush royal, polyphonic ramp, titania's petal tempo, dirt rune.
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>>168502572

Just fought a ramp dragon who odin'd the first Mordecai and played Satan. A Dingdong brought me Nep to turn the game around at 5 defense.
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>>168489153
Beautiful feet, post more
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>>168503064
Dingdong best girl
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>>168503039
What is your opinion on Control Blood and Ice Blade Warfiend?
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>>168503039
I was refering to Bahamut is T2 though. And in constructed he's never been an issue for me because I play aggro.
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>>168503164
I hate it but at least it's blood cards until you get the thicc laura-servant cock
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>>168503064
what a beautiful sentence. please dingdong me too anon.
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Is it in rune's nature to be retarded or something?

I don't understand why he would do this play.
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>>168503361
Netdecker's don't know how to drive the boat
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>>168503361
Dirt rune have a lot of evolve effects followers.
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I just fought a ptp Forest.
At masters. He was clearly climbing for the reward.
I'm so confused right now.
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>trial to rank A
>get a pretty good curve against Rune
>"Haha lol, nope, I got all three Kaleidoscopic glows so you can't play any followers through turns 2-4 but I can pump out my 0 mana 2/2s and 3/4s and crimsons sorceries"

Just fuck me
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>>168503540
Even in tourny ptp forest is being played.

Don't have idea how this is going if any bahamut destroy the deck
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>>168503504

It's not just that, but he didn't hold onto fireball.

He's playing a control deck with no storm or burn (usually). It's only 1pp, and he could've reserved it for threats that I had on board, while setting up his defense with ease.
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>>168503361
you mean the second levi? also what is this? did he play insight in dirt?
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>>168503651

Yea, thought he was dshift because that makes sense as they can defend levi until evo turn since i missed t2 until I saw the price of magic drop.
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Can we make so in T2 both 1st and 2nd have 3 evolves along with a ban list?

And an option to go random with 1 assured lego in the draft to compensate

That literally fixes the game mode and promotes class variety in it
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>>168503625
The deck also appears to be too slow for this meta. So aside from Bahamut being a pain they also get trashed by Daria anyway unless they get a massive AE.
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What are the mid-rangedecks? besides Daria

>>168503772
Some golds are best than legendary desu just see skullgane and fangblade.
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Do you think SV has a future or it will fall off really hard soon?
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>Finally got the Feena sleeves

I'm out of ranked. See you in the meme realm
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>>168499475
This deck is insane. 15 win streak, almost every win turn 6-7. Thanks for the list anon.
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>>168503860
They're dead thanks to daria. Aggro or control decks
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>>168503860
>mid-range aside from Daria
These are dead.
Though I did play versus two tempo elves back to back yesterday at masters.
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>>168503921
>>168503941

I'm asking what are the mid-range decks not if they are good.
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>>168503876
Dead in a year desu
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>>168503973
Just make a midrange deck? Everybody has one.

>>168503876
Gone the way of pirate-stone within a year.
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>>168503973
Then you can do anything mid-range since you don't care if it works or not. lol
Storm Haven, mid-Sword and tempo Forest used to be the popular mid-ranged decks from DE, though.
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>>168503876
It all depends on the next epac to be honest. If they powercreep everything instead of fixing it this game is slowly going to die off.
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>>168503973

Saharump is technically a midrange/lategame deck, since ramping gets the ball rolling around t5-6

Although that just might be used on more ramping.
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>>168503876
If they realized they fucked up with Piercing Rune, Cyclone Blade, Gobu and Bahamut (in t2) the game will do just fine. If they refuse to fix these issues and decide to wait the game "even out" by itself by releasing stuff then we're bound to end up the same way as HS.
One of these cards is not like the others
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>Have to play Havencraft for two quests
>Play against Dragoncraft
>Put pegasus amulet t1
>He concedes
I thought you were memeing, what is this
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>>168504279
>Cyclone Blade, Gobu
You just want to complain right?
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>>168504369
>Gobu literally enables the best deck in the game right now
>you clearly didn't read the spoiler
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>>168504369
Gobu is the single most influential card in the set. How is it anything short of broken?
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>>168504354
He knew you were going to outvalue him and there was no point to playing
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>3 game winstreak against Daria as sword
>3 times Daria bricks

Call the press, Runecraft doesn't always have Levi turn 4 and Daria turn 5.
The one time Daria flooded the board, I had Cyclone blade ready. Turn 8/9 Daria isn't fucking scary if you have enough health to take 2 demonic strikes and a blade mage.
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>>168504456
>>168504428
Thought you talking about Gobu in T2.

But if roach is nerfed(3pp) everything would be fine if you nerf Gobu Otk Dragon is killed desu.
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>>168504279
Don't worry next time expansion they will add leader's weapons and you'll be able to use cyclone from empty table :^)
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>>168504521
My deck sucks though. It's the only game I've won so far with it. Oh I see
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Is possible to lost with double Odin? I mean dragon can throw so much pressure that Seraph would be suicide
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>>168504279
How is Cyclone Blade problematic? It hits your own stuff on the minion-spam class and needs a follower with decent attack to pull it off.
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We need more Megalorca support Cygames. Cmon
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>>168504568
Roach did nothing wrong. Gobu is by far my favorite card this set but it doesn't mean she ins't fucking broken.
Honestly if a meme deck not being a thing anymore is the price I have to pay for, say, Gobu not being able to get the same two drop more than once, then I will gladly accept.
>>168504698
No, I'm complaining because the card is absolute garbage and we're forced to use it.
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>>168504523

Went ahead and looked up the odds of getting Levi with zero mulling. It's a 37-card deck since insight into levi still lets you use him
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Does anyone have an ambush sword decklist?
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>>168504813
Rowen don't deserve to be nerferd Roach is the problem.
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>>168504568
There's nothing wrong with erasing Dragonewt OTK from the game as well. You have to think on a grander scale - tutors like Gobu directly inhibit the design team's ability to explore new options within the entire spectrum of cards that can be searched, because anything even remotely good is going to be many times more consistent than intended and ultimately lead to even more degenerate things than the current reign of Roach in the future.
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>>168504695

They could tag you back with a backup satan or baha which isn't really a fix-all, solve all answer to ramp.
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>>168504864
Here
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>>168504885
Nerfing a meme deck is not the same thing as nerfing Rowen, his viable stuff would remain exactly the same. If anything it protects the game integrity in the future.
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The match making is unironically fucking rigged. There is one fucker in all of master who is playing dshift and I get match with him as soon as I switch to control.
>play face deck
>always match with control
>fucking always
if I switch to dshift and I get all the aggro/face fags
just can't fucking win

>
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>>168505060
Dshift is legitimately almost half of the Rune representation in masters.
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>>168503876
I like to say that my dick has a better future than this game :^)
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>>168505014
Thanks.
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>>168505057
>>168504985
But tutors are nice since you don't depend of lucky draws to duel
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>>168505060

Dshift made a comeback, they're not rare anymore

>mfw
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>add goblin into Nep deck
>shit actually works
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>>168505127
Thanks
Great to know all those free wins are eluding me.
I feel much better now.
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>>168505229
Id rather face 10 Darias in a row than a single Dshift
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>>168504670
Welcome to haven. Every Haven is a God-like.
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>>168505229
Their win ratio will remain garbo at least. Just not control Blood garbo, but garbo nevertheless.
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>Play control
>Bricks more than any other archetype
>God hands less than any other archetype
>Very susceptible to bad luck, because the longer the game goes, the more chances that a lucky roll will determine the outcome
>Incapable of stealing games it has no right winning the same way aggro can
Control will always be a flawed meme, because devs refuse to make it consistent, and control requires consistency to be good the same way combo requires lack of interaction to be good. Becoming inevitable will never be a better wincon than preventing your opponent from playing the game and killing them by turn 7 and 8.
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>>168505060
Use two of pic related against d-shift and the retard rune players conceded
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>>168505392
>blaming DEVs
What is your idea of consistent control deck?
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Anyone got an example control blood deck?
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>>168505490
Evolzars at their peak.
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>>168505392
>bricks
I love this meme.
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>>168505392
Stop playing control decks that has no fucking draw
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>>168505550
>yugioh

get the fuck outta here
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>>168505597
That's right, play control Blood instead, and enjoy the sub 45% win rate at master.
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>>168505597
Nigger, all fucking Shadowverses' control decks have no draw. Haven has 1, Dragon has 1, Blood has 2, both of which kill you, and one that's unplayable 75% of the time, and CSword is a meme with 0 draw.

Fuck off, tutors like Maid, Prism, and Emissary aren't "draw". Look at fucking Rune, that's a fucking class with draw.
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>>168505625

It was okay when Komani just let players create their own meta like dandywarrior, and to a lesser extent drulers (all those techs).

As soon as they started making xenophobic shit was when they fucked up, if spellbook of prophecy and baby rulers wasn't enough for you to quit.
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>>168505392
Also dshift has like an 80% winrate vs all control decks. Control is forever a meme.
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>>168505060
DShift last week was played 29k times. This is about the same for each other main deck other than roach/daria which were 60k/100k respectively.
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nerf gobu is a shit idea.


just nerf roach and let the unique way to newplayers do the dailies with dragon.
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>>168505597
The best Control deck has not draw. There is no escaping it.
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>all meta returns to dshift
Truly the strongest deck
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Added 3 odin to my aggro bat and my early games are great and seraph is easy piece now.
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>>168506183
You should be killing them way before turn 8.
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Honestly, it's so fucking obvious how big of a problem D.Shift is to this game. Why the fuck have they not introduced a single real counter to it? It's been unfuckingtouchable since vanilla. Games literally decided by the queuing lottery. The poster child of fucking cards that can't be countered, PtP, keeps getting good anti amulet cards like Odin and Bahamut each expansion. Yet, we have 0 fucking ways of dealing with spells, draw, or spellboost.
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Daria leader when
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>>168506139
The best part is that it'll never get nerfed because all the aggrofags preying on all the ill-optimized decks at the start of the expansion pushed Dshift out of play meaning the overall play rate of Dshift for the expansion balances out and the dev team won't be able to find a reason to nerf it based on numbers alone.
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>>168505392
>the longer the game goes, the more chances that a lucky roll will determine the outcome
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>>168506231
There's an ass ton of shit that can deal with non-cd amulets. The problem is that rune, shadow, and forest are the only ones that can use their class ones without killing themselves. Execution is outclassed by call of powercreep and dance of neutrakcraft, and everyone has to take 2+ odin's anyway.
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>ramp
>goblin t4
>100% victory against all AGGRO DECKS
love dragon
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>>168506391
How isn't this >>168479312 a good reason to get rid of DShift completely?
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>>168506585
>Pack draw
>Don't need luck cause I have cards still
>Win consistently
t.haven rune
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>>168506585
>The chances of getting or having exactly what you needed gets higher the deeper you go into your deck
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>>168506681
H-HEAR
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>>168505785
I have good news for you, the throw every single fucking engine into a single deck meta is back, and it's hilariously boring too! Archetypes are fucking dead and only used as engine pieces! Because a homogenized pile of garbage is better than a xenpšhobic pile of garbage with a actual identity, am I right!
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>want to finally craft a definitive maindeck
>cant because the meta is so fucking horrible right now and all decks Im interested in would get destroyed by all that aggro and daria cancer

Cant wait for the new expension. It surely will be a better meta then, right? RIGHT?
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>>168506231
No card game should ever have a "One More Turn" card with zero restrictions/clauses.

Whatever. Next expansion will roll around, Daria/Piercing Rune will get nerfed. Dimensional Shift will go completely untouched and we will end up in the same shit.
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>>168502553
You still up?
I need a daily
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>>168507019
Just craft Saha Ramp
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The game would be 100x better without roaches, levis, piercing runes, DShit, Elana, Seraph.
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>>168507069
Sure!
13025, come hit me
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>>168507123
>complaining about Elana and Seraph
>the worst t2 decks right now
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Guys, convince me not to buy these 600 crystals for 6 bucks to buy 12 packs in the next to weeks. It's too tempting.
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>>168507106
I even got 3 sahas without even wanting them. But I really dont care about Dragoncraft at all because the playstyle is so boring. But just out of curiosity, which other legendaries would be needed?
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>>168507213
Buy a pre-built and 2 packs instead.
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>>168507213

Cygames needs to redeem themselves first before they're allowed money from fiscally responsible people that have a set amount of money for their hobbies.
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>>168507123
Honestly, I'm sure some people enjoy them.

But the game would be so much better if every single OTK was removed.
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>>168507329
Can Imperial Dragoon stay?
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>>168507213
Buy a prebuilt instead.
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>>168507235
Bahamut, Forte, Odin, and Lucifer.
Some people run Satan, but I dont think it accomplishes anything that the deck doesnt already do.
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>>168507235
X3 Lucifer,2xBahas and 1x prince of Darkness are the standard and maybe 2 odins to run over all neph and seraph decks

MY deck run 3 fortes and 1 dragoon for finish cards
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>>168507123
Can you imagine how fun this game would be if there were no storm followers, removal, direct damage spells, win conditions, followers with immediate-impact fanfare effects, healing, or draw?
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>>168507383
Dragoon is a game ender, not an OTK. It can stay. Dragonewt should be removed though.
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>>168507446
Yeah completely decks of 1pp followers without effects.

I'm just imagining of fun just throwing 1pp 1 1 followers every turn
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>>168507329
Combo OTK is one of the best archetypes in card games. It requires both players to understand the game and each others decks though.
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>>168507398
>>168507436
Shit, I dont own a single one of them except Satan. Guess there goes this option. But I will rethink my plan of liquifying Sahaquiel for now, so thanks.
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>>168507446
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>>168507446
Just play chess then, or shogi, or chinese chess.
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>>168507446
>Someone makes reasonable suggestion
>HURR LET'S REMOVE EVERYTHING
Where did the bad anonymous hurt you? Was it the roaches?
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>>168507557
Don't liquefy good cards with potention.

pls stop doing that
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>>168507536
Vanilla Yugioh was fun.
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>>168507631
?
he was agreeing with him
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>>168507446
I actually agree if it comes to storm followers. At least to certain ones like fucking Roach or Albert, who is literally 10 damage out of hand if the user has an evolve.
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>>168507557
Yeah, its a pretty intense list of legendaries. Saha Ramp is competing for most expensive deck in the game. In my version of the deck im using 45500 vials on just the legendaries.
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>>168507123
>Elana
>Seraph
How can one class cause so much fucking butthurt, that it people are still triggered when it's literally not played and has the lowest winrate among st all played decks in masters? I'm talking about Seraph by the way, Elana isn't even on lists anymore, it's tier fucking 3.
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>>168507446
What did he mean by this?
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>>168507672
Let them go. They are just stupid. Personally I never liquefy any card unless I already have 3 copies of them. Not everyone as enlightened as us.
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>>168507672
I will definitely burn my animated Zirnitra some day. 2500 vials for a card I will never ever use sounds good to me.
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>>168507689
Sure was the first player have 80% of WR so much fun
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>>168507759
Because with roaches, dshift and daria removed those will become the cancer again.
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>3x Khawy in hand
>3x Rise of the Dead in hand
>It's turn 7
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>>168507832
>opponent has 3x odin
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>>168507795
>vial'd 3 dragoons of which 1 was animated
>easy 4500 vials
>"b-b-b-but anon! discard dragoon will be t1 next expansion! promise! big mistake!"
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>>168507537
Combo decks are indeed the most enjoyable kind of deck in any cardgame, even moreso when the interaction is fun/well-designed. But a combo existing for the sole sake of an OTK is really bad game design, imo.

A perfect example would be Imperial Discard Dragon vs Dragonewt.
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>>168507727

Forte, Genesis, and Howl are serious damage out of hand. Blood and Storm Haven also have storm damage/direct damage, although it's not as compact as the three that I mentioned.

Damage out of hand is inherent with SV, for better or for worse.
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>>168507902
Yeah just do it Dragoon is a fine finisher and end game card.

Vial all your average/good shit just play tier 1 decks in the entire expansion.
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Need a concede please!

61298
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>>168507831
Elana auto losses to any control deck with Bahamut, on top of Daria, D.Shift, roaches, dragon meme combos, and Seraph. Elana is never coming back, the same reason PtP is never coming back, Bahamut exists now. Seraph is not fucking D.Shift it can be rendered shit with 1 tech card.
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>>168507902
You never know dude, Dragonsong Flute might be viable in like a year. Think about how much youll regret wasting 2500 dust when youre forced to recraft it.

Im having so much fun with my budget aggro blood and 3 copies of animated Soul Dealer in my collection.
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>>168507902
Vialing cards you don't use just to have vial is pretty retarded
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>>168507868
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>>168508026
Thanks Rowen!
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>>168508116
But what IF i need the vials? :thinking:
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>tfw you finally finish the missions
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Anyone got a Saha Dragon deck list?
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>>168508068
2500 vials, or 7500 if we're recrafting all 3, in an entire year is nothing to sweat. I can make that much in one month.

Keeping animated cards is one thing since they're hard to get, but there's no reason to keep actual trash.
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>>168508204
Unpack better
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>>168507123
>Not even aware of how broken Clarke is
Tales from D-rank strikes again

>>168508068
Flute's almost there with Reina, flute tutor, even better ramp for T4-6 overflow and even better draw. If it could get more serpent force/dragon tamer, an overflow cost reduced draconification, or we get amulet slots so wyrm spire flute-spire doesn't kill you it'd be a solid T3.
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Well, is he /ourguy/?
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>throw out lots of followers like a fucking conjurer
>still not dead? here's some face burn through your wards

Fighting Daria is fun, not.
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>>168508427
Wards, board clear, and saha-luci-odin-baha neutral core
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>>168508059
Bahamut isn't that much of a problem for PtP. you just need to hold it until you're sure to get lethal now.
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>>168508396
More importantly.
>AiS(2)
What happen to AiS(1)?
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>>168508573
It was weakened quite a bit, it used to be when you drop ptp with 30 shadow most of the time your opponent can't come back from that aside from odin.
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>>168508576
last tournament got pretty rough ;_;7
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>>168508683

It's still a board clear, even if it isn't lethal. Now you can't just rely on PtP to bail your ass out when all you did was brick your hand and then AF'd out.

Which is totally fine and is actually more or less what people were asking for.
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what's your achievement of the day /svg/? 10 losing streak here
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>>168508908
i climbed 2000 points and now i am on a 5 losing streak.
should have stopped
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>>168496603
>Have you ever played it? How often would you say you get the wincon?
often enough
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>>168507260
>>168507393
Ok, I did it. I bought shadowcraft. This came out of it. Anything I forgot to add?
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>>168508908
My Saha Ramp stomping everything
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>>168508908

went 3-1 and got my dailies done.

My one loss of course being Daria instantly presenting lethal when I was at 17 health and they had an empty board and I was 1 damage away from lethal.
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>>168508908
I've only won 1 out of 10 games today.
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>>168508908
Created missing cards for saha ramp and have started to win again.
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>>168508908
I tried to think how to make a combo forest that could win without legos/roach and failed hard
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>>168509020
2/2
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>>168508908

Literally playing yoyo for the whole night. I'm not gonna make it to the top 1000.
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>>168509020
Make more like this
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>am forcing myself to buy de packs until i get a lego
>opened 13 packs so far, only got 3 golds i already had 3x of and rest all bronze/silver
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>>168509020
>tfw probably wont be able to meme with curse of rebirth/etheral form/Keen phantom dragon before 2018
T-Thanks for reminding me...
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>>168509205
DE is shit m8, just craft the stuff from it. RoB packs are just so much better than the others, it's not even funny.
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>>168508908
Finished a 4 games as swordcraft mission in A rank without any golds or legendaries
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Is there any better way to end the match?
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>>168508908
farmed this. min. 1 more pack to come, depending on my next t2. i'll do it once i get my daily 40g login bonus.
looking forward to opening them all at once.

also will probably enter B3 today. unless i end up doing well in t2, in which case i'll do more t2.
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>>168509308
Chemo be!
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>>168508576
Probably in A group considering it says Group B next to Gameai cup
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What is this shit?
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>>168509308
>cancer fighting cancer
wew lad, so proud
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>>168508908
I finished the Neph deck, played 20 games, lost 14 of them and closed the game being so angry i wanted to break something.
Fucking hell why did i wasted vials on this piece of garbage in the first place
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>>168509205
>opening RoB packs trying to get animated Vanias and Veights
>don't get any
>but keep getting random legendaries I don't care about
I know, I know, legendaries are nice and all, but I really don't care about getting them right now. I just want animated Vampy.
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>>168509425
A good pack?
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>>168509479
show me your nep dick, maybe I can help
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One non-gold lego that you want a set of animated.
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>>168509141
I always wondered if someone ever did undead king then death's breath the next turn. Shadow and forest have so much cool underrated shit.

>>168509153
What's the rank prizes this month?
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>>168509265
you're probably right but i cant just let it end like this
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>>168509159
>>168509159
Don't like feathered patrollers?

>>168509205
You'll regularly go 20-30 packs without a lego then get a multi-lego pack
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>>168509559

2500 rupies and 1 animated bahamut for top 1000
5000 rupies and 3 animated bahamut for top 100
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>>168509509
Okay, let me try again. Who in the fuck is that slut?
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>>168509483
>Vanias and Veights
i'm pretty sure one of these is from the darkness pack
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>>168507123
Then everyone would complain about Khawy and Albert or something else gonna kill your fun.
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>>168509667
High Cost Mc Useless
The very definition of a Take 2 Only Card
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>>168509559

>undead king then death's breath

nah, the more viable choice now is zombie buccaneer into death's breath. You miss a zombie sure, but he's active in the early game.
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>>168508219
>7500

3 lego is 10500 vitals retard.
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>>168509308
Yes

>>168509425
Great cards?

>>168509712
Vania's DE
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>>168509712
You're right, guess I was going for guess I got Yurius and Vania mixed.
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>>168509539
I tried this one and made no changes to it yet. Feels like there are no good turn 4-5 evo plays on the empty board and no decent shadow generators for the Death's Breath turn but i'm not exactly sure what to change here.
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>>168509790
>guess I was going for guess I got
Jesus Christ, it's time to sleep.
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>>168509764

Not him, but buccaneer eats 2 shadow himself and cannot even fit in a Nep deck.
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>>168509939

He refunds the shadows though, and undead king doesn't fit in a Nep deck either.
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Remove elf.
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>>168509762
She fucks the prince, rite? I know she does.
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>>168509868
>23478 nep
Jesus christ how horrifying
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>>168509868
What rank? Im planning to play nephtys as well, Im only at D1 right now, so hopefully in casual ranks I get more fun out of it than you.
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>>168509159
Thanks, I'm now ready for nepless nep
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>>168510052
Question. How did you surviv-
>>168510070
Shut up

survive early game?
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>>168510097
5 followers is the best way to play Nep, the reasons you asshats lose with Nep is because youre putting all your eggs in one basket instead of making a stable all around deck that uses Nep as a game closer instead of a catchup mechanic.
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>play neph, it's a great deck they said
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I would be Ok with seraph if it was immune to acceleration.
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>>168509868
no wonder you lost so much, this deck is shit
>23478 with lost of useless shit
either go 2378 or 2478, phantom howl is not so good on Nep so might throw it out as well
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>>168509159

Care to tell how you mull with this list? I have some bad streak with aggro variant in general, so I could use some help.
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>>168510097
>23478
What is this Nep's numbers? I don't play the deck so someone explain please.
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>>168510275
Managed to draw alot of wards to ward of roaches so he had to sacrifice 1 of them to remove 1 and then he did 15 dmg with the 2 last.
had baha to kill them with and then he started dumping Ancient elf and tia.
Would have been fucked if I didnt have2x baha to clear his spam after I got rid of his roaches.
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>>168510374
Read nep's effect
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>>168510327
lol
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>>168510374
>>168510374
pp Costs of the followers in the deck to work with her fanfare

Fanfare: Randomly put followers of different costs (excluding Nephthys) from your deck into play until your area is full. Then destroy those followers.

By having only 4 costs and playing on an empty board they are guaranteed a morde pop, a khawhy destroy a foe and heal, probably a lich and a junk
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>>168510374

The PP of the followers in the deck. Nep fetches out up to 4 followers of different PP, so generally you want to keep only 4 different PP to not fuck yourself up badly with a bad Nep.
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>>168510330
get cucked faggot
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>>168510327
yeah, but that deck doesn't even do that right because it tries to do everything Nep wants to do and instead does nothing

I don't play pure Nep either and I'm enjoying it so far, if you want to try it see pic rel.
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>evolve this nigga and goes face
>enemy doesn't know what to do

Or

>put this nigga on board
>uses impious ressurection on turn 4, i get a 8/8

Best card or best card?
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>>168510330
>Tfw you will never have this much smugness in your opening hand
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>>168510327

>lurching corpse and attendant
>a stable all around deck

What is this meme?
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>>168510398
You got pretty lucky that he didn't spam Elf.
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>>168510708
Best card
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>play vs a shadowbab
>he has 9 hp
>drop my turn 7 Bahamut because Im fucking dragon
>he plays his Kawaii
>but doesn't evolve him to immediately trade for the effect
>odin him the next turn
sasuga shadowbabs
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>>168510708

>3PP 1/1
>cannot even trade
>I SEE YOU'RE WEAKNESS

Never have good result with him unless it's against Rune and only Rune.
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>>168510806
Ya. Shit was close. They really need to fix those roaches to not be so easy to grab and combo.
dying the second you dont have a ward up after turn 8 even at full hp sure is balanced game play.
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Shadowverse crashed while winning in a match and uninstalled itself (plus it isn't in steam).
How did this happen?
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>>168510969
>Never have good result with him unless it's against one third of the ladder
It's decent.
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>want to hit Luna's post
>pic related
>end up bullying myself
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>>168508908
9 win streak between Midrange Sword and C.Blood which got stopped by a Control Shadow running multiple Plutos

Not even mad
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>>168511023

Not when you are against aggro, though. In that case, you wished he was Unleasher instead.
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>>168510969
Your*
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>>168511113

>multiple plutos

If it was actually the legendary herself, I would be pleasantly surprised.
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>>168510987
Forest can destroy Dragon just with Elf+Liza between turn 4-6. Roach is an awful addition to that.
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>>168510917
>be lord of cucks rowan
>can only play retarded decks and win so rarely you always emote spam and post it online when you do
>bribe gooks to put you tier 1
>jerk small dick and yell h-hear the dragons roar but your mom tells you to be quiet
>keep playing dumb dragon decks in c rank
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>swordfag kills my khawy
>gets healed 5 HP back, now at 6
>oh-ok now i might have a chance
>Albert out of fucking nowhere
>>
Do unranked matches take forever to find a match for anyone else now?
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>>168511316
if he has 9pp you should be expecting alberto, how is that "out of nowhere"
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>>168511224

Yes

He ate my Satan and my Servant of Call of CoCk and I had no answer
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>>168509868
That deck is so fucking greedy. No low PP wards, no healing angels, 3 Attendants 3, 3 Lurching and 3 fucking Unleashers. No fucking surprise it gets raped by any aggro deck.
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>>168511327
dead game
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Would it kill Daria decks if followers that get spellboosted has a minimum cost?
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>>168511316
>wow he has enough pp to play his staple legendary
>woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow i never expected him to ACTUALLY play it
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>>168509643
>Don't like feathered patrollers?
No shadows or 3pp slots to spare. If I could hit face with its fanfare? Sure.
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>if he has 9pp you should be expecting alberto

Yeah, i always forget that anon
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>>168511247
Liza is low-key broken and seriously shits on slow Blood/Dragon decks. Hopefully both classes get some early Rush options soon.

Speaking of low-key broken, Clarke is a far bigger offender of balance than Levi, Daria, or Ogler
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>>168511247
Ya. I need insane luck to actually win.
Because Forest is balanced mmkay.
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>want to learn to play a deck
>watch a streamer streaking with it and learn all the tricks from the 2 hours video
>try it
>losing streak

Card game is hard.
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>>168511450
Not him but it doesn't need. If you drop Neph consistently, one right after the another, you literally win the game. You can expect 10 point heal min, board clear, trade and 2 mords.
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>>168511661
Do people expect double demomic strike from aggro sword?
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>>168511826

Not him, but good luck surviving up to turn 7 in one piece.
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>>168511661
you'll stop forgetting once it happens a few more times to you.
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59123
Need a concede for the daily
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>>168511247

>Bounce Liza against Dragon with a buffed AE and Elf made invulnerable every turn

Not a better feeling famalamadingdong
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IS THIS THE POWER OF SHADOWCRAFT?
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>>168512001
59129 my bad
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>>168511789
This piece of shit deck is literally the reason why everyone had to drop cblood.

Ladder is still full of Darias because of fucking roach and the shitters who use it.
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>sword players are STILL not all dead
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>>168511915
just keep the opponent busy with emotes bro
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>Elena gets to turn 8
>plays Seraph on me
>then plays 3x countdown reduction on turn 9 ~out of nowhere~
woooooooooooooooow I didn't see that one coming
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>>168510097
>>168510360
>>168511450
How the fuck should i build it then? I have zero experience making and tuning Shadow decks.
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>>168512081
WHY DO YOU HAVE A GOBLIN
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>>168512129
I played control blood before I went saha ramp instead.
Now I have a much eaiser time against alot of other decks and maybe 30% chance to survive roach instead of 5%
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>go first 4 games in a row
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Let's say I wanted to remove Unicorn girl thing out of my Control Sword deck. What are other good options?
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>enemy rowen puts 2 dragon pendants

>loses because he had no followers to do damage
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>>168512194
IT'S A SHADOW
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>>168512137
>reeeeee runecraft is cancer! daria is cancer! levi is cancer! dshift is cancer! dirt is cancer!
>reeeeee haven is cancer! seraph is cancer! elena is cancer!
>reeeeee blood is cancer! aggro is cancer!
>reeeeee shadow is cancer! aggro is cancer! neph is cancer!
>reeeeee forest is cancer! roach is cancer!
>reeeeee sword is cancer! albert is cancer! aggro is cancer!

What the fuck am I even allowed to play anymore, according to /svg/?
Lord of Cucks Rowan and neutraldecks?
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>>168512247
And dragon still has a bad time against this shit.

I've put 3 grim reapers to help me survive but forest shitters manage to always draw shit they need when they want. Seriously fuck this whole class and the people who still haven't nerfed its bullshit cards.
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>>168512346
>Lord of Cucks Rowan
Jokes on you, Ramp Dragon is cancer and i loathe playing against it.
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>>168512278
animated unica

seriously though why would you remove her
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Anyone else kinda sad there is no middle ground in terms of difficult? Like you either play aggro like a drooling retard or play some ´´thinking man´s deck´´ that doesn´t even pay off in the end considering the efort you put into making it work
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>>168511407
>>168511407
B-B-but Pluto is terrible auto-vial! /svg/ d rank shitters told me so!
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just themis lmao :)
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>>168512452
She's great, even when she doesn't work she baits removal or trades. I was just considering other options is all.
>>
So, why did you change to Jap audio?
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>>168512258
>it's thewin X times sword dailies
>play aggro you go 2nd, lose to other sword aggro by missing lethal
>play control you go 1st, brick or get screwed in evo points and draw by other control, then lose
RREEEEEEEEEE
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>>168512281
anon...
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>>168512395
Ye.
But I rather have a shit time playing crafts I dont like.
I hate rune, forest and haven and never even do the dailys with them.
Sword I would only want to play for memes and dailys.
Blood, Shadow and dragon are the only crafts I like.
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>>168512471
i think shadow and sword are those, you have the face aggro and the control deck on both.
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>>168501360
Play on your phone.
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>>168512593
Because i'm a weeaboo.
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>>168512346
>What the fuck am I even allowed to play anymore, according to /svg/?
Another game, we are trying to help you.
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>>168511768
Rush is unlikely in Dragon since everything only ever works with overflow, the same goes to Veagence.
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>>168512471

The midground is Daria and Daria alone

Jokes on you I still go Tempo Forest and MidSword from time to time on ranked
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>>168512471
How about mid sword?
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>>168512471
I am 100% sure at this point eveyone crying that aggro is caveman mode is B or below.
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>>168512593
because neph's entrance is much more better
>>
Should I just kill myself and uninstall already or is it actually possible to lose to the story AIs if you get a shitty draw with the default decks?
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>>168512593
Japanese is a better sounding language than English.
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>>168512857

You're fine.
>>
Is there any reason to do all of the story modes? Isabelle's final match is giving me a hard time.
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>>168512804
Aggro archetype is extremely easy to play, my man.
t: masters
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>>168512857
AI is pretty strong when you're running random bullshit.
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>playing satan rite against sun satan deck
>i get my satan first
>2 servants of darkness in a row
>he gets his satan
>astaroth's reckoning into dis damnation
Fuck this game.
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>>168512857
>or is it actually possible to lose to the story AIs if you get a shitty draw with the default decks?
Very easy. They are rigged as fuck.
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>>168512804
I dont have problem with aggro but how is it objectively not a caveman mode deck? It´s what made me go away from HS too. I just couldn´t stand that half of the playerbase were one digit IQ idiots that could only play 2 mana cost minions and hope they win before turn 8
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>>168512857
>he loses to the AI
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>>168512857
That Haven deck that runs Atomy is no fucking joke, expect to lose a couple games while working through all the stories.
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>>168512948

Aggro vs Aggro is preety fucking rad though

Clever resource management without losing the board and ability to do damage while both race for face in a quick but intense game
>>
Should I play all of the class stories before opening packs / playing real people?
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>>168513078
>it's a vampy used to lose to the AI episode
Protect the weak
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>3rd game in a row where I brick my hand with mordecais and khawys
Sorry shadowbros, but I can't bear with Neph any longer.
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>Bloodcraft dailies
>That should be easy, I'm only C rank so aggro bats should take care of this no problem
>5 losses in a row in unranked
Vampy pls
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>>168512593
i did and then i changed it back. i realized that i like understanding what the cards say, and it's not all that bad.
honestly the jap stuff sounds too cliche so the eng voces actually sound fresh. maybe i'm too used to it.
>>
Is there an officer that adds a Cyclone Blade to your hand yet?
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>>168513146
Yes, they give you gold and some solid cards. i don't reccomend playing ALL of them before playing unranked/ranked but do play for the class you want to try right now
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>>168513042
>I just couldn´t stand that half of the playerbase were one digit IQ idiots that could only play 2 mana cost minions and hope they win before turn 8
Welcome to Shadowverse, there one digit IQ idiots play zero mana cost followers and hope they win before... wait, they have no time limit because they get three FREE refills with more FREE followers and more burn!
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>>168513232
Good, DO give Cygames ideas!
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>>168490671
run both.
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>>168512857
with the untouched default decks you'll start struggling around the 6th chapter in each route. that's around when i gave it a shot and made my own deck.
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What should I climb my last 1k points with?
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>>168513414
I think you should put some fucking sleeves on
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>>168513087
>haven
>atomy
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>>168513517
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>>168512185
>>
>play seraph against rune
>fug its a dshift
>wait i got an idea
>play absolutely nothing and just kill followers with spells if he plays a levi or merlin
>win because he couldn't use spells that targets followers


i haven't lost to a dshift with seraph at all this past few days
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>>168512346
I guess if every class is cancer, then that just means that every class has at least one (semi)viable deck.
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>>168513087
>That Haven deck that runs Atomy
Haven is obscure and full of secrets, isn't it?
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>>168513587
All they can do is shout "hurr durr 5 minion costs". Most of them played Nep for 10 games and gave up on it.
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>>168512937
>>168512981
>>168513014
>>168513087
>>168513404
Oh, alright. Guess I'm not supposed to complete them all like that just running the default crap.

Suppose I'll play all of them to some point and then make some actual decks.
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>just lost to phoenix roost satan
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>>168512346
Haven and Forest are the only true cancer right now
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>>168513706
YOu got some new cards from the story
Shoud be 4 pp followers with special evolve effects
Include them they are good stuff
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>>168513631
Were talking about the AI decks, and there is one that runs all the low cost 15 countdown Haven amulets and Atomy.
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>Nice to meet you!
>REPORTING FOR DUTY!
Does Rowen have brain problems?
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>>168513414
>no minion seraph

i wouldnt advise to climb with seraph, but i am curious what this deck is about.
are you actually memeing without minions?
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>>168513706
You can complete them with the default deck, just expect to spend hours until you finally get the perfect draw.
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>>168513917
Don't let it get to you
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>>168513917
No, the retards who translated the game are the ones with brain problems.
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>>168513704
the only shit worng with Neph decks is that it can draw undesirable cards too soon.
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>>168513923
the deck has been posted here quite a lot, its good vs Daria but roach rims your ass
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>>168513917
Translation of the character lines in this game is literally random. Don't bother.
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>>168514020
>trial of light
>>
>took me an hour and half to get 4 wins as forest
>roach forest 20% win rate
>every game opponent has good draws while I have shit
>tons of wards every daria spams icy golem every turn past turn 6

All masters seem to have hidden buff to their luck. I dont fucking understand how to climb.
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>>168513993

What a mean thing to say.
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>>168513748
t. dariafag
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>>168513817
Who cares abou the reply chain. :^(
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>>168513917
>YOU MUST DIE
What's her problem?
>>
>>168512185
>>168513587

Since you asked so nicely.

Key card are neph, Mordecai and Khawy. Some people run 3 mordes and 2 nephs, other 3 nephs and 2 mordes. It's all personal taste

Lurching corpse, Attendant and Necroassassin complement this deck. If the first 2 get summoned by neph you get a free remove and a 4/4, necroassassin can easily combo with Lurching Corpse to remove 2 followers, don't forget to attack face before tho.

Impious ressurection, foul tempest and death breasts are the best spells because they can also combo with Lurching, attendant and necro. Some people run 2 DoD as well.

For other followers, Rabbit necromancer is my favorite because if she gets summoned by neph your opponent suffers 2 damage to the face. I also run gourment emeperor for the endless 2/2 carrot.
>>
>keep losing to Banner decks in A3 because they all have perfect curves with turn 4 banner plays
what the fuck
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>>168514150
Well, that's nice. Thank you anon.
>>
I just started playing and got Bahamut from a ticket, is that good?
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>>168514185
>losing to banner
what are you playing? seraph?
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What is happening in this guys brain?

Oh fuck, now he just played a third Daria. I'm almost scared that he might kill me.

And now he actually does, fuck piercing shot
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>>168514203
No problem anon :3
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>>168513817
The only one who does that is the final boss loseria or whatever the dumb elf name is. That's not a haven deck.
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>>168514281
Aggro Sword and Ramp Dragon
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>>168514150
>tells the guy 23478 is bad for neph
>recommends lurching, attendant and necrosin
>>
Please i need a quick concede, thank you
85620
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>>168513232
Yes It's a 4/3 5 cost follower that gives 0 cost cyclone blade on evolve if there are 3 or more enemy followers on the board.
And it comes out in 1.5 month so keep sucking Darias clit.
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>>168514223
Yes

>>168514370
It's the deck i use and i'm fine with it

>so keep sucking Darias clit.

Dann i wish...
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Haven't played Take Two since darkness evolved. What does the new tier list look like?
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>>168514451
Nah man I play Sword all day errday
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>>168514417
Thanks again Arisa
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>>168514528
shadow > haven > rune
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>>168514451

You realize there's a certain irony in that design right?

Sword would be taking on an attitude of "If I can't flood the board, NO ONE CAN"
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>>168514451
>so keep sucking Darias clit.
I wish
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>>168514528
literally never play rune in 2pick
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>ramp dragons keep spamming "thank you" before they drop genesis for lethal as if there were something i could've done to stop it
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Make a viable deck that's not take 2.
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Is Bloodhungry Matriach vialable tier? I assume she's played on CBlood but I don't really have any interest in that deck.
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>>168514813
Ward up.
>>
>want to build saha ramp
>still need at least 2 lucifers
>want to build neph
>need 3 nephs
>want to build cblood
>need pretty much every gold and queen vamps
>>
>>168514813
>be lord of cucks rowan
>can only play retarded decks and win so rarely you always emote spam and post it online when you do
>bribe gooks to put you tier 1
>jerk small dick and yell h-hear the dragons roar but your mom tells you to be quiet
>keep playing dumb dragon decks in c rank
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>New gamemode: Highlander
>Only 1 copy of a card is allowed per deck.

What changes?
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>>168514852
>Ward up.
they aren't gonna drop it until your wards are gone retard
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>>168514839
she is the viablest

https://a.pomf.cat/hyscgd.webm
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>>168514998
there's basically no archetypes anymore and everyone is running the same deck because they have to somehow cram 40 different cards into theirs
everything is up to complete RNG
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>>168515030
>a.pomf
At the trash it goes
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>>168514593
You realize that all crafts got broken af aoe clears that shut down Otohime to the point of being meme while sword itself got complete garbage that simply doesn't work as intended in the game where gaining any kind of board presence generally means opponent just bricked or you're playing Daria.
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>>168515016
Ward up again.
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>>168514794
Until I accidentally one with Skeletor, Rune was the only class I got any 5-0s with post Baha.

Suffice to say I'd recommend it.
>>
>try to rank up from A3 to AA0
>nothing but Roach and Daria
is it gonna be like this in AA0 as well?
>>
survey packs never
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Are we not getting one of pic related for RoB? I've been buying packs scarcely since I already have most of the bronze/silver cards and I find it easier to fill out my collection if I can grind T2.
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>>168515030
>those moans
Very hypnotic.
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>>168514832
8pp Legendary Shadowcraft Spell
Necromancy(X): Give +X/+0, Storm and the ability to ignore wards to the next follower you summon. Destroy that follower at the end of the turn it's summoned.
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>>168515304
It's going to be like that up to Masters, where everything you will play against will be either Daria, Roach or Ramp Dragon. Enjoy the game while you can, buddy.
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>>168515304
Yes. I just met 5 roach in a row in AA2 and went down to AA1.
Lost 4 of 5 as saha ramp.
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>>168515463
where is your goblinmount bro
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>run into crazy dragon deck in take 2
>genesis dragons
>owl guardians
>ramp with fervor oracle and aiela
>big minions like the whale

>plays it like shit and loses anyway
???
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>>168514813
>roachfags keep spamming "sorry" when they have lethal

why are arisafags assholes?
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>>168515304
Dunno I don't think I'm facing them more than any other decks.
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>>168515510
Either I never draw any of my 9 wards or when I hold up they just keep raping my wards and Selwyn sending them back to my hand because lol free for maximum easy rape combo.
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I finally gave in and crafted 2 Lucifers to try Saha Ramp. This shit is so fun. I still need a third one and an Odin, though.
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>>168515463
I'm getting really fucking frustated at the moment

Every Daria player I meet have perfect nut draws from multiple Daria into Darias

Roach players having exact lethal with all PP spent

and just got beaten by a Storm Ramp where the only way he could kill me was if he top decked an Urd, which he did
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>>168515607
Because they think they are actually good at the game.
only roach fags can say this fucking deck is balanced.
Even seraph and tempo rune isnt this bullshit.
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15750

help im 30 short of a pack and need a fuckin concede
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>>168515926
Nah, at least it has bad matchups unlike Daria.
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>>168515679
Its fun and games until roach when Saha + Lucifer does absolutely nothing and you literally need to have to get a minimum of 1 ward every turn after turn 6 or you can never defend yourself.
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>>168515697
Welcome to card games; these things happen. If there's nothing outstandingly wrong with your deck or performance against X deck as a whole, just shrug it off and move on. Some days will be worse than others.
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>>168515610
What deck you play?
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>>168515607
>>168515926
Wth, anons? Apologising ain't BM
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>>168516087
control sword
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>>168515926
At least daria loses alot of threat after all evos are spent.
Roaches you die the second you cant put down a ward and they can just keep saving their combo.
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>>168516257
Care to post it?

Because the one I tried sucks against Daria.
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>>168515965
fuck

thanks anyways
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>>168516079
>control blood top decks temptress vampire on empty hand for lethal the turn before I have it
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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>>168516334
Give me that shiny Scrap-Iron Smelter if you don't want it.

Fuck this no trading business.
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>>168516173
>Saying someone sorry before finishing them off
The greatest BM
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who else /notgonnamakeit/ here
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>>168516559
Me and I don't give a shit anymore. I'm just doing dailies until the next expansion.
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>>168516415
No way, man. I apologise to lower ranked players when my deck out powers theirs or if they brick. When I lose or have a close game I congratulate them, Whatever the case it's a thanks for the win
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>>168516559
Still haven't gotten the hamsa sleeves yet.

Not in the mood to deal with roaches and daria anymore.
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>>168516735
>>168516735
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>>168516315
Here, but it still sucks against daria if they draw good. Everything does.
Art of the ninja instead of blitz lancer would work better vs daria but worse vs roach and other aggro decks so I'm still in doubt on what to use.
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>>168512857
I completed all but Haven before I realized I could have just made custom decks, I thought the reward cards were automatically put in the default deck as you progress.

Suprisingly I lucked out most only having to retake some chapter 7 or 8 matches few times.
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>>168517138
I got into chapter 8 of Tittymonster and gave up on the first loss since that was my third loss after losing the Uriel two times.

Just doing the others up until 6-8 now and then making some decks.
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>>168492412
Just go second bro.
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>>168512593
Because witchette emmylou sounds cute as fuck.
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