/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

Professional idea guy here willing to help all video game makers for free

Ask me anything

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What progress of yours will grace this thread?

>>168475913
Hopefully mechanical or stage progress in the next day or so.

Repost from the end of last thread.
Quick question for the thread incase anyone has been in my situation before.
I am currently working on a turn based rpg reminiscent of early SMT games, dungeons would be viewed from a first person perspective, but then it will switch to a separate format for the actual combat.
I was wondering if there are any resources for going about implementing this system, and what the best program would be to design a game like this (or if I would have to make one from scratch)

Anybody know how these are?
http://catlikecoding.com/unity/tutorials/

>>168475913
I figured out animation in unity, of course I also but in the frames for one of them backwards...

>>168475913
I'm going to bed soon. But tomorrow I'll start making progress! I haven't devved in weeks.

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Got my first terrain up and running, with mountains (brown), hills (ochre), plains (light green), forests (dark green), and water (violet). At the moment just a random pick per tile.
Water can not be traversed and links are detected and severed accordingly.
Also got the first GUI for overlays on the right.

>>168475913
If I can finish my pathfinding, I guess I'll post it

>>168476121
I only know of recommendations for them.

What's up /agdg/? I am taking a quick census regarding 3d platformer collectathon games. If you could take a short minute to answer the following questions and share your opinions I'd be most grateful. Please feel free to answer in as much or little words as you want.
>1.What do you enjoy most about the genre? What do you think improvements could be made towards it?
>2. What is your favorite collectathon game? What is it you enjoyed most about said game and how it was implemented?
>3.What was it that made the genre fun for you? This does not limit to gameplay, visuals/sounds, or mechanics.
>4. The genre has changed and aged, just as any does, since the dawn of the 3d era. Has it changed for the better or worse, why, and how?
>5. There has been a resurgence of the 3d collectathon genre, particularity with indie devs and kickstarter programs. Based on what you've seen of these projects do you like the direction of them, and would they possibly better the genre or worsen it?
>6. What are some bad elements of collectathon games that are overused/unneeded, and examples of such? How do you think these elements could be improved?
If anyone also wants to elicit any discussion on the subject of collectathons, I would be more than happy to talk about mechanics, design, or other elements.

>just came up with an amazing original concept
>really motivated to make game
>it's bedtime and I don't want to fuck up my schedule

Help

>>168476121
Just looking at the overall presentation and topics covered, seems like they're pretty decent.

I imagine your coding skills would have to already be intermediate or higher, though.

>>168476671
Write it down, get hyped again tomorrow.

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>>168475901
that's funny, I was just reading this article and considering using a shader like it. http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RaduMuresan/20150804/250403/Achieving_a_quotwalls_on_firequot_effect_using_simple_shader_changes.php

I like "squigg" as a name

>>168476671
write it down, do it tomorrow, read fiction 15 mins to flush your mind.

>>168476671
sure, tell it to me and I'll make it for ya, bud

>>168476746
I did, I wrote down pages of shit and made some drawing mockups

I hope to fucking God I'm not the lazy piece of shit I always am in the morning

>>168476601
>>168476679
Yeah. They seem pretty good and on the comprehensive side, if a bit complex for beginners. I'm planning to go through them tomorrow unless somebody says they're particularly awful. Would it be worth posting back with how I actually found them in practice if I do? I notice the tutorial bit on the website is a bit sparse.

Who runs the website? There much work for it going on?

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>>168476190
noice, saved
>>168475285
fishmen are invading coastal japan
>>168475337
done!

>>168476850
Post about it in the thread tomorrow, fag. I'll be looking for you. You can make it dude.

>>168476902
Doorknobs become carnivorous, victims need a helping hand.

>>168476790
Huh sweet, thanks for the link. I was trying to find a better way to make the effect I was going for.

Hear me out- any place where you are confined for a lifestyle can make for an RPG setting
>boarding school
>prison
>village/countryside
>military base

>tfw a really good programmer and have unique ideas to make a game
>waiting for my talented artist friend to have free time so she can draw all the characters and level designs to work with

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>>168476902
Nice~
I'm counting this as a yesdev moment for me.

>>168477085
how did you do the one on the squigg? I like how it shimmers

>>168477116
>catholic monastery

>hippie commune

>cruise ship that got lost at sea

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made a modern snap to over the shoulder style control scheme for guns.

fucking shadowplay broke again so not the best quality.

>>168477321
>hippie commune
That reminds me how my brother big teenage rebellion was to become a radical christian since our mum was a hippie.

>>168477325
strongly reminds me of those "algorithm learns to walk" videos where the walkers get pelted with fuckhuge boxes

>>168477216
The exact implementation:

Loop through the entire image, moving 6 pixels at a time.

Grab a random 3x3 near that point (+- 3 pixels)

Move the entire chunk in a +- 1 pixel direction, in one of the 8 possible directions (N NE E SE S SW W NW )

Get 5 separate pictures doing this, then string together for an animation.

>>168477058
lol

>>168477442
because its the same kind of thing.

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>>168475913
I had a Zelda II like idea so I'm doing it out of boredom.

But strangely I'm having fun, though I'll probably drop it once I reach the "need enemies and art" part of the development process again.

>>168477616
is the jab and vertical slash meant to be 2 different kinds of attacks? Like the slash is stronger bus slower? If so, I'd like to recommend instead of the slash having consistently slow speed and no startup frames, give it some startup frames and have it slash quickly (or accelerate quickly).

>>168477616
find an artist friend who likes video games too I personally met a few off of reddit programming collab partners and meetups for gamedevs in my city. There is most likely a community near you in person

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In which increasing lightmap resolution increases quality.

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>>168477769
Thanks, Anon!

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In which they don't.

>>168477950
>is the jab and vertical slash meant to be 2 different kinds of attacks? Like the slash is stronger bus slower?
Exactly, need to improve the animations later.

I'm trying to avoid getting carried away by adding combos as usual, just keeping 2 attacks, maybe 3, and a bunch of spells later.
I want to keep this as simple as possible.

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>>168475913
I'm not participating in any code jams, but I figured I'd post some progress. I know it looks bleh but I'm focusing on UI functionality at this stage of my item system's development.

Here I do normal drag and drop and stack split with "stickydrag" and "stickydrop" (i.e. you have to click to drop), within the same container and within different ones.
There are a couple of things I don't show, like the system preventing a stickydrop if it is performed on a full-stack of the same item or a different item while the container is full.
Item usage for consumables works, but I have no visible feedback other than the stack quantity decreasing. That's my next task, and after that comes the UI for equipment slots (the number and type of which can vary from unit-to-unit as I've designed it to already).

An unrelated, yet cool thing is that I designed this in a way that allows me to edit the asset files in the custom EditorWindows I made while play mode is active and changes will take effect immediately. This means I could make that axe non-unique in the editor and the game would be able to act upon that immediately (ex: re-hovering the item to show the correct up-to-date tooltip) without having to restart or reload assets. Most of the fields represented by an item are actually held in a single location; the memory footprint is much smaller because even if I had 1000 health potions, almost all of their fields are just references to a singular readonly data object (assigned only when the item is created).

Furthermore, models and views are separated by adapters; derived EventArgs classes with EventHandlers are used for most communication. I use Unity's EventSystem for a couple of things, like the initial pointer actions and button presses; that's probably like 10% of the events being sent around.

It took a while, but I'm moving forward more quickly now.

>>168478262
In that case, in addition to my previous suggestion, you could go the route many top-down Zeldas go, and have a basic jab/slash followed by a charged swing/attack by holding and charging the button. It doesn't have to be along the horizontal plane either, since the Z direction is useless here. Could be across the XY plane.

How do you make sex a part of gameplay?

>>168478452
A charge attack for the 3rd attack?

I actually like that idea a lot, adds another attack that is optional but useful. Thanks.

>>168478171
>dat tit jiggle
subtle

>tfw toaster PC can't handle sculpting 1 million polygons in blender

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>>168478690
>polygons
What's that in units of triangles?

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>>168478778

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I got a menu working. I'm not gonna make it.

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Now when the weapon arc hits a collider it has a little knockback and particle effect.

Also added a fade for the weapon arc so it doesn't simply delete itself after a few seconds in air.

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>>168478953
>maining blue block
I believe in you!

>>168478894
that screencap's actually pretty funny

>>168478690
you shouldn't even have over 10k polys.

>>168478778
sorry meant tris

Using unity in 2d can I have a base sprite (ie naked/bald body) then overlay hair and clothes separately?
I'd like players to be able to have options but I don't want to draw up full sprites for each one.

>>168479232
Lolwut, Spyro 1 had maps of 35k tris

>>168478597
make it as part of the combat or something. Note that this does not work well at all with stuff that isn't turn-based because being able to continue at your pace is important.

you're better off asking the /d/ or /aco/ chapters of /agdg/

>>168471227
>try going to a real art/music/programming community and ask opinion of professionals to completely slay you
Why? I don't make things for other professionals to shit on I make them because fans like it.

I'll never understand the need by some to fit in with what they imagine to be their peers. Fuck your peers. They're just competition (and not strong competition either).

>>168472345
>not everyone is a winner
So true.

>>168479592
>mapping in blender

what

>>168479663
Ironic.
>Fuck your peers.
Fuck you too, anon.

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>>168479671
That's what I do

>>168479671
It really isn't that hard.

>>168480010
Neat. I'm glad I'm making a game that won't need that level of map detail though...no offense.

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>>168480010
>tfw laying out colliders for that

>>168480082
it's not that it's hard you're just going to have shit optimization with a single map model no?

personally I'd make a bunch of models I could setup individually and move around instead of in one set.

>>168476059
I haven't played the early SMT games, but I;\'m making my rpg in Unity. Lewdest Labyrinth was made in Unity too.

>>168480082
What do you use for mapping?
I've never tried an actual mapping tool before.

any good Blender tutorials you guys recommend?

>>168479581
Make a child gameobject and attach a sprite component to it, then position it at the top of the head?
Then you can use code to assign the sprite at runtime.
That's my initial instinct; maybe there's some special unity feature.

>>168480290
go through the cgcookie beginner stuff

then get
Mastering Modeling in Blender – Workshop

you will be a pro.
all of this can be pirated

>>168480290
This is the perfect starter tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiIoWrOlIRw

Starting out with Unity, but it's not my first engine.

Are there any must have free tools or plugins?

For paid, I know Shaderforge and Rewired are pretty useful.

>>168480527
thanks bro this is a pretty good one

Hi guys, I don't really come here and I'm sure you've been asked before, some of you likely already have someone to help you with this or are taking care of it yourself, but does anyone need someone to provide music for what you are working on? I am a musician trying to make some money and this is the only place I could find and think of to ask.

>>168481251
post soundcloud

Does anyone know a good tutorial for low poly texturing? Doesn't even need to be a tutorial just a vid of a guy.

>>168481387
too broad, what do you want to texture? what materials?

>>168481251
I'm sure a few people here are looking for music. Usually, you'll want to post a sample of your work or genres you are comfortable with.

There used to be an agdg soundcloud page, I can't find it for some reason, though

>>168481485
characters probably. and when I mean materials I mean UV stuff.

I know the basics very well but getting that detail is a problem.

>>168481319
Uh, well, I don't have a soundcloud exactly. I did a while ago but I deleted it. I figured you could just show me something or tell me some aspects about your game and we would go from there.

>>168481687
That's not how this works. You need to show what you can do.

>>168481565
I see. I could try to dig for a recording or make a new one if you like. I think I could pretty well compose for just about any style, I have been mostly studying classical music lately.

>>168481614
it's not really any different for low res stuff

they key is to make sure your UV islands are square and aligned to the grid so that the pixels can pick them up. i suggest going over to models-resource.com and downloading the kind of models you want to replicate

for your low poly UV stuff, take a look at the Mega Man Powered Up models on the PSP, i think they were 128x128 pixels and the UVs are professionally done.

hope this helps.

>>168480363
Thanks bud but it seems like I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and keep it simple.

>>168481768
this

>>168481865
>for your low poly UV stuff, take a look at the Mega Man Powered Up models on the PSP, i think they were 128x128 pixels and the UVs are professionally done.

that sounds good thank you anon.

>>168481906
Dude, what >>168481906 said is EXTREMELY simple. Parenting gameobjects and changing sprites in code is easy.

>>168481251
>>168481687
points for creativity, i guess

lets collab guys

how would we actually accomplish a successful agdg small game collab of 5 levels game

>>168481565
>>168481768
>>168482043
Okay guys give me a little bit, I am in the living room right now, going to go set up my laptop and microphone in my room.

>>168482183
Most likely AGDG collab to succeed is a ghetto rigged minigame compilation with a fixed theme.

>>168482183
One person codes it while 4 make levels.

I guess art and music could be delegated among the level designers.

>>168482335
alright this is a good start

what kinds of mini game?

what themes does agdg like?

>>168482356
how would we communicate effectively

>>168482041
But I'm not very good at this...

>>168482506
Discord / some other chat client just use discord you fucking luddites

Unity also has built in collab support with some kind of version control now.

>>168482579
Did you try the first step of parenting one sprite to another?

>>168482506
Shit like Wario Ware mini games. "click on this character's head as fast as you can, among a sea of other character heads." and the like. You know. Minigames.

As for themes... AGDG seems to like the usual shit other people like. Pirates, Space, Mechas, Loli, Ninjas, Moe Girls, etc

>>168482183
>>168482335
yeah, but the separate mini games can be separate programs that are built separately otherwise it can have bugs or be too difficult to integrate it into one single program.

Like the main game is just a title screen program with continue or or new game, and then closes its window and runs the appropriate other game.

each level is then a separate program, which returns 1 or 0 based on if they beat the level or failed it.

then the launcher program makes a window again and if it was you beat the level then it records what you are up to for continue game to work, and does the same for the next one.

otherwise it says how many lives and if not continue then restart from level one.

or something like that maybe

>>168482506
>how would we communicate effectively
One super dedicated coordinater, and just doing it directly in the threads.

>>168482661
>just use the botnet you fucking luddites

>>168482692
Launching external applications isn't too hard. As long as shit's restricted to a few tools, it shouldn't be too bad / too large.

If there's to be some sort of scoring / etc, all you have to do is save to an external file before your application/minigame closes.

>bugs
That will happen no matter what, so, whateves.

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Got hair almost done. Needs a specular map and some tweaking. Next is reworking the face and body plus clothes.

>>168482661
Yeah I have it there.
The problem will be having it follow the player and keep up with all the animations.

>>168482917
Looking nice, she's a real 'special girl'.
How are her breasts?

>>168482927
what kind of animation are you using? frame by frame or skeletal?
if skeletal: its trivial to get a sprite to follow the right limb, but hard to look nice
if frame by frame: you have to really constrain the kinds of animation that you do.

you might be right, easier to keep it simple. but i wanted to push back against the attitude that it's hard. the coding part of this is very trivial in unity

Should I make a 2d game or 3d game?

>>168483103
Yes.

What are good dungeon generating algorithms?

>>168483103
2.5

>>168483103
2D.

>>168483069
Frame by frame, it's 2d.
I get what you mean man and that's good to hear since I'm just learning to code but this game is going to need the animations.

Ideally I'd get an artist on board but I don't see it happening.

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Good night aggies

How I make MMO lol?

>>168483401
G'night

>>168483401
Goodnight, Theonian. Dream of whatever... sad and terrible nightmare you are cultivating within your mind... and hope it doesn't leak out into your waking world.

>>168483340
http://gaurav.munjal.us/Universal-LPC-Spritesheet-Character-Generator/

So this is a rough guide to the amount of work that you would have to do, and this is with classic rpg sprites with rather limited animation. You can use simpler style and fewer frames and fewer animations to reduce the workload

>>168482803
yeah that's right


the app could show global highscores using http://redis4you.com/ free tier or something like that

lets think of a fun mini game we could all contribute towards that is small and easy but fun and addicting

>>168482702
>doing it directly in the threads.
Everyone involved would need to wear tripcodes and you would turn the thread into an instant messager. Fuck that.

>>168483573
Hmm, I'm not sure...

>>168483573
Code a multiplayer module

>>168483005
I'm thinking of turning her into a magician sniper cowgirl with a nice rack right now but my feelings are fleeting so don't take my word for it.

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>numbers can be converted to strings
My mind is full of fucks
why would you need this?

>>168483904
>Everyone involved would need to wear tripcodes

no they dont, just do it

like, i had an idea about it so ill make one

>>168483748
I could use the sprites from there by that license right?
I mean people might give me shit for it but atleast it would cut down on alot of the work.

>>168484226
I've been using that a lot recently for a settings.cfg file that can be edited in any text editor. The game parses the values when loading.

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>numbers can have a value below zero
I don't need that kind of negativity in my life.

>>168484350
You can, but IIRC GPL is a viral license. Your game would have to be GPL too.

I don't think you'll get shit, if your gameplay is good. It would be more acceptable in something like a deep roguelike.

>>168484463
TEE HEE

>>168484587
I think that only means edits to the sprites/the finished sprites in this case? It's not clear.
I'd be all up for it then since it's like 70% of the work.

>>168484853
It's a good question. I really don't remember the license specifics.

Also, gpl code slips into commercial products sometimes, and I don't know how it's enforced in court.

>>168484463
lol

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>>168483186
Anyone? Please?

Just had a great idea for a game

A new sidescroller with shitty pixel art and dark souls pandering

>>168485232
There aren't any.

There are some decent guides out there for general proc gen, though. Get googling.

>>168485232
Assuming tile based, combinations of BSP trees and perlin noise work nicely.

>>168485358
>>168485360
Alright I'll look into it. Was just wondering if there was a favourite amongst people here.

>>168485258
What is salt and sanctuary?

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>>168485258
I mean it isn't pixel art but...

>>168484980
I read through them and it only talks about modifying/redistributing the art/program no things containing it.

>>168485258
>>168485486
>>168485458
There were some mechanics that didn't work so hot in S&S, so make sure to fix those.

Tumbling got real wonky for bosses. Like it was neat and all to have tumbling, but it's a much different beast when you only have 2 directions to tumble in. Kinda dumb that you just get stuck tumbling into bosses, but with no real cues to let you know when or where you'll be able to tumble.

Also heavy armor is basically a wasted stat until you dump a whole NG worth of stats into it (or more...) What the fuck is that.

post some of your art or graphics

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>>168485798
ok but they're shit

What do you guys think of this idea.
>HTML5 "MMO"
>Dungeons and the world are instance based like diablo or monster hunter and party sizes range between 4-6 players
>Towns are not instance based and serve as hubs for trading and forming parties
>Diablo-style loot system
>ALTTP/Zelda 1 gameplay
started working on an online game framework in HTML5 but I don't know 100% what type of game I wanna make. This seems pretty comfy but I am open to suggestions.

>>168485914
>ALTTP/Zelda 1 gameplay
RIP Anons game, died stillborn. Cause of death: Unresolvable lag issues.

>>168476620
>1.
If by 3D platformer you mean things like Super Mario 64, then sadly, I'm not fan of this genre. Maybe I haven't played enough titles, but when I think about a platformer, I need thight controls and good, energetic motion, some sort of rythym. Like I love how fast I can breeze trough a DKC level. A 3D platformer feels slow and often unresponsive, and half the time you are just trying to figure out the camera position. About the camera: in 2D you see everything which is necesarry to know to solve the issue at hand, however in 3D, if the camera is not right, someone might just ambush you from behind etc. If you consider games like the new Thomb Raiders as platformers, then it could work, but they are more like quick time event games when it comes to platforming.
>2.
I don't have any. I usually hate collecting if the whole purpose of the game is collecting. Disguise that thing! Like WoW is basically a collectathon (every quest is get X thing at Y place), but at least they hide it behind some lore and good atmosphere. Simply collecting coins and bananas is just boring for me.
>3.
I start to feel like I'm not your guy for this poll, sorry.
>4.
Damn, now I feel like I'm just wasting your time. I have no idea, anon, I'm so sorry.
>5.
If there's an audiance for it, sure, why wouldn't they develop these? But I'm usually not a fan of KickStarters, not to mention KickStarters which are cashing in on the nostalgia factor (like that Yooka-Laylee coming up soon). Just make games and try to make them fun. Leave the "resurrecting of a genre" bullshit for the marketing guys.
>6.
I don't know, sorry.

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>>168485798

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>>168485798
how do i into gui

>>168486051
does he have a talking animation?

>>168485632
I think the best way to deal with dodging in a 2d sense is to do something like smash bros. Spot dodge and rolling. You couldn't roll past a boss if its attacking or blocking though. Spot dodge would be a riskier move (less stamina but less i-frames, shorter duration) but you're within attack range and can follow up if need be.
On top of parrying and blocking of course.

>>168486085
I haven't seen that in action, but at least from what you described, it sounds perfect.

>>168486057
have moments where the stats and stuff come on screen, but disappear when unneeded. Think how health pops up in Mario games.

>>168485914
What is Realm of the Mad God

Good times

>>168485998
I was thinking not having the server be too authoritative and just do little checks here and there to hopefully stop cheaters

>>168486154
Realm of the Lag Gods

>>168485914
>HTML5 "MMO"
No.

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>>168485798

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Working on a shit but less-shit-than-previously-shit UI for combat.
Also hi don't think I've posted in the thread in a while.

>>168486430
Looks like one of those cake knives.

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>>168485798
>this isn't even for my main game

>>168486463
you have pretty decent pixel art

teach us your ways

>>168486463
Looks real slow, Anon

I mean it looks good, too, but yeah.

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>>168486082

So what LPers/streamers are you sending your game to /agdg/? Don't you want that publicity? It's free marketing

Video James.

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Been working hard on a new region of the game. It's the Frogtown Pipeworks. It has a lot of pipes that you can jump into that will pull you through them. I'm driving hard at finishing the world, at least its basic structure and design. My roadmap to completing the game:

- Weapon System. Will have a total of 3 special weapons. Two are implemented, but could use some polish.

- Energy Nugget System. This is a system where throughout the world are doors and breakable that require a certain amount of the floating energy nuggets you pick up as you run around. Haven't started this but it shouldn't be too hard. I can probably crack it out in a couple days.

- Enemies. I have around a half dozen enemies that are relatively finished. I want about a half dozen more. This is a big chunk of the remaining work.

- World Design. There is one more region to create that I haven't even started. Then one that is 1/3 of the way done. The others are done but could use a bit of polish (and better enemy placement once more enemies are done)

- Starting area NPC. This one will follow most of the other things, as she will be commenting on what is happening and helping you out and stuff. Most of the systems for her are in place, but I want to wait on the content because it depends on everything else.

Then the game will be finished. That's not too bad... right?

>>168486520
Is this inspired Witch Anime?
>>168486570
nice

>>168486958
Yep.

>>168487080
that's cool. I like Witch Anime.

I'm going to make mario party but with strategic depth

>>168486613
People who enjoy the sort of games I make are to intelligent too watch LPers so it's just a waste of time.

>>168486345
Why?

>>168487154
I had an idea for a Mario Party-style minigame. It's called Crucifix Crux. Each player is tied to a giant wooden has so much health. You have to break free of the ropes tying you before you lose all your health by people throwing stones at you. There'll also be a time limit, but also a dodging mechanic for avoiding some stones.

>>168486549
Make [thing] until you like it, and then redo it/touch it up in 3 weeks, repeat forever ad infinitum and then abandon a dozen projects all with completely different styles to build a personal portfolio/ experiment and then learn colors I guess I don't know.

>>168486561
Well of course its going to look slow, I don't have animations put in yet to supplement what is essentially a long list of lerps and slerps defining everything.
Functionality is the only thing I'm working towards right now.

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>>168485798
The artist for our collab game gave me this today. I like it. I dunno if I was supposed to share it.

>>168485561
The entire program is considered a modification of it. If you put in one line of GPL code into a program the entire thing has to be GPL. Its incompatible with pretty much every single game engine and library and should be treated like the plague for games.

>>168487529
Rood dood.
Looks like it'll be one outfit then.

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>>168487406
Also, progress, got tower target priority working.

>>168486017
Thank you for taking the time to do the survey. As someone who doesn't seem very partial to the type of games, it especially means a lot to me.
If I may ask a few more personalized questions to you (or anyone else who feels they'd like to chime in).
>1. Do you appreciate sandbox-style levels? And if so what are some things you do/do not like seeing in them?
>2. How much can you tolerate minigames? Do you enjoy them,, hate them, or somewhere in the middle?
>3. If given the chance how often are you willing to sidequest? If you require an incentive, what kind of incentive would you like?
>4.How do you feel about games with multiple characters, that you may switch in or out at will? Do you care to play as everyone, or try to find that one favorite and stick with them?

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>>168475732
I have a problem like in the image: http://pastebin.com/bSHrfKfF

I want to reduce/remove code duplication. I've got ideas on how it can be done, but none are satisfactory. They tend to get messy fast. How would you remove code duplication in this case?

More importantly, how would you implement the idea of doing the same operation on coordinates, where the coordinate pair are flipped such as this case illustrates? This code is just an example, but it is based on a problem I run into often and can't find a great answer.

A good sounding, memorable name helps to standout.
it carries the vibe/mood and idea of the game/genre…

Here are a few things to consider when choosing a name for a game:

Memorable – Is the name easy to remember?
Pronouncing – Is the name easy to pronounce?
Phonetic – Does the name sound good when spelled out?
Association – Does the name ring a bell (genre conventions)
Protectable – Is the name protectable and searchable?
Length – Is the name not too long? (What was the name again?)

>>168481768
Sorry it took so long, I started to record a song I have been learning but then realized you probably want to hear something I wrote. I took out a hard drive and hooked up to look for an old recording but it got deleted I guess so I just re-recorded it. Anyway, this first piece is actually inspired by an idea I had for a game, the second is an excerpt from my arrangement of a classical theme.

"Overworld Theme"

https://clyp.it/4ahqgeyx

"La Follia"

https://clyp.it/osy5o1f4

>>168487951
>>168481565
>>168481768
>>168482043
Whoops, meant to link to all of you, boy I am fucking up left and right today.

>>168487951
It won't play for me, it's been 'loading' for a few minutes, already tried reloading of course.

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Why is this an error? My first time using Unity, I even copied the text from the completed script but it still wont work

>>168488339
You probably forgot a } right above it.

>>168488339
Post a proper screenshot but from what I can see you have something up the top left after the bracket that shouldn't be there.

>>168488417
that worked, thanks

>>168487951
You're certainly not a bad player. You could probably write something clever. Good luck

>>168487754
When you have code duplication, you can abstract the operation. That usually means making it into a function. But in the case you showed, it would gain you very little. If you're only doing that 6 line operation twice, abstracting would be useless. You want to abstract out code that you frequently use (more than three times, use your best judgement).

Usually you begin by abstracting out into functions. Then you abstract related functions out into classes/objects as they build up.

>>168487951
Love that overworld theme. Adventure ho!!

http://poll.pollcode.com/35192779_result?v
http://poll.pollcode.com/35192779_result?v
http://poll.pollcode.com/35192779_result?v

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Do you think that making a game using Unity tutorials assets and advertising the said game, pretending that it's yours or that's it "only for prototyping" is good?
Pic related, the game i'm talking about

>>168487754

>>168488732
I do know how to reduce duplication broadly.

I wish to know some things that could be done for less trivial examples. I can reduce the duplication to just two function calls with different parameters, but then the code looks very ugly internally.

Specifically, this sort of coordinate flipping thing comes up so often in what I am coding. You can see in this example everything is the same except the width and height parts are flipped. You see?

I tried to make a simpler example. Maybe it is too simple?

>>168487734
>1.
I appreciate them if they are well designed and leave the player for multiple options to solve a given solution. If there are occasional paths with possible more loot and plus equipment, it's even better, but this kind of secret hunting is only good if it does not necesarry to complete the game. But what I really adore if there are hidden story elements. Like in said WoW, you can always discover some statue or a secret cemetary, abandoned house etc, which adds to the feeling that even if you go on a linear route, you are part of a bigger world. Or in Alien Isolation, where it requies additional puzzle solving to aquire all the data logs, which add to the story, yet not mandatory.
>2.
If it fits well with the rest of the game and not gimmicky. Like I hate the mini games in Mario 3 with a passion, but the part in HL2 where you have to play basketball with the Gravity gun is fine, or the challenge levels in Zelda: Link Between Worlds. So basically if a minigame requires you to use the skills you already have but in a different way. Things like the hacking minigames in said Alien Isolation could fly, since their kinda hacky, and also purposefully annoying and time consuming to make you sit on the edge of your seat.
>3.
It depends. Like in Far Cry games I saw no point to complete additional quests, the game was completely beatable without them. They added nothing to the story, and they just weren't as interesting as the rest of the game. However in an RPG, where I know that every piece of XP matters, I do everything which is in my reach. However here it usually annoys me after a while and makes me wish there wouldn't be any side quests, because they are not as interesting as the main story, yet you know you won't be able to beat the boss without the proper level requirement. So I'm not the fan of them, to be honest. If they are not mandatory, then I don't care, but if they are not mandatory, then they'll become boring and a drag.

>>168487734
>4.
I think I haven't played enough games to do proper justice for this. I think it's fine in GTA V, also in games like FF 6, but these don't really make you decide who you want to focus on, since you have to complete everything with everyone. Yet again: I don't like the feeling of missing out something, so I would probably try to follow everything I could.

>>168489337
they state in the disclaimer for those tutorials that you arent allowed to make money of the assets and they are only for learning, ofc you can just use the scripts anyhow.

>>168488249
That's strange, I re-loaded it and it is working just fine for me and I have possibly the worst internet in all of 4chan.

>>168488704
Thank you

>>168489086
Thank you very much

So, can I write something for anyone?

What's the best mechanic in any game?

>>168490290
This one.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1011940/43ba6f464b/

>>168489746
>>168489814
I see. thank you so much for your time.

>>168490290
skillful movement

Can anyone point me in a good direction for places to learn about:
>Death and what happens when player dies
>Spawnpoints (player and other things like enemies)
>Win conditions and scene transitions when they are met.

I'm using Unity C#, if that matters.

>>168490808
>if that matters

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post your boat game

>>168490808
1. What genre? This affects how you program death.
2.Make a prefab for the player / monster /enemy. Make a spawner object in the scene. Add a Spawner script to the object. Add a public gameobject field, and set it to the prefab you made. When you need an enemy, call Instantiate() with that.

3. Application.LoadLevel()

http://vote.pollcode.com/35192779
>Cops
>Mecha
>Construction
So Patlabor?

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>>168490808
>Win conditions

>>168490835
Apologies, I'm a super-beginner.

>>168490952
Ah, thanks for your help. 2D platformer, just something nice and easy to start with.

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Posting this again because I'm incredibly happy with how this animation is going so far.

>>168491116
Dude that all looks great, what's your game?

>>168477156
why wait when you can _pay her

>>168489585
I think it's fine. Abstracting out is good if you have ten similar usages, but if it's just two I'd rather leave it as is. General functions are inherently more difficult to read, no point when the gain is this small.

>>168489937
Even in the case you don't make money, is it an ethical thing to use assets you don't made to promote your game?
Because i'm fucking pissed at these faggots right now

>>168491089
For platformer death, I think you could either respawn the player at the beginning of the level.

Or just reload the current level, this will reset everything to its initial state.

One thing you might have to watch out for is that if you want eg health to transfer from scene to scene, unity doesnt support that out of the box. There are some solutions here, depending on EXACTLY how you structure your levels.

>>168489937
Let's say you release a demo with placeholders on itch.io, can you still accept donations ?

>>168486847
Look dope, Anon! Keep up the good work.

>>168491727
Interesting, thanks for explaining that.
Given that I'm doing absolute basics right now, I'll probably just restart the level, as you say. But I'll be learning more complicated stuff as my game gets more complicated, so I'll get there eventually.

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gauging interest in loli jam
http://poal.me/j6qr9k

>>168492007
Seriously, guys, why do you push it?

Waifu jam was fine, I guess, even tough almost every game here has a waifu in it.
Lewd jam was okay, we had some fun with the idea of /h/ games. What "ruined" it was the fact that there were too many non-/agdg/ games.
But loli jam? Seriously?

>>168492363
Don't worry so much.

>>168492363
If you don't want to participate you don't have to

>>168492363
why not?

>>168492363
I'm not a fan of the idea of a loli jam either, but you can't deny it would reduce the amount of "outsiders" joining in, too.

There
https://cjanssen.bitbucket.io/themegen/?

>>168492616
>https://cjanssen.bitbucket.io/themegen/?
Only 3 days to go woah might be good

>>168492363
I agree.
I wanted a sharkwomen jam.

>>168492363
It's already decided.

But I do agree that this fucking piece of shit constantly spamming the thread with his polls is annoying.

>>168492868
>It's already decided.
nope it's pirates and/or cops get over it

>>168475913
None because work and snow removal forever.

>>168476850
You will be, but you can push yourself to start on something.

>>168492570
>>168492451
>>168492419
>>168492401
You know what? You are right. Whatever flips your boat. Besides, I have to admit, I see some potential in it. Some comfy games, raising sims etc.

However one more thing: could you, please, define loli for me?

A loli is simply a girl for me in her pre-puberty age, so from kindergarten to the end of elementary school, but as I see some puts petite, flat chested teenagers into this category as well. And I have still no idea what the term "gothic lolita" supposed to mean when I just want to find some nice skirts with lace on it, and clearly not for children.

>>168477616
Cute, she's a girl and she's a wimp!

Is there any good tutorial for a melee system in Unity? I can't seem to figure out any way other than just making a bunch of animations and giving them hitboxes.

>>168493081
>when I just want to find some nice skirts with lace on it,
Anon, why do you look for skirts with lace on them?

>>168493081
It just means what it is in the animes and shit.

Gothic Lolita is from the young girls style of dress with a gothic style. Any age can wear it.

>>168493081
>However one more thing: could you, please, define loli for me?
That's an endless discussion. Ask it on /a/ and you will get tons of shitposting and fighting over it. Some people will reply is a body type, others is a age range, some that's an attitute.

That's why things like that are shitty ideas for jams.

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>>168493081
It's pretty much for the same reason that people use the term "pedophile" when they mean "ephebophile" and talking about jailbait or sex with teenagers.

Really the broadest definition you can get is a "petite" girl. Short stature, generally with an equally modest chest. In this category you can find normal actual children, 1000 years old vampire lolis, shortstacks, flat-chested teenagers, oppai loli and many others.

And gothic lolita is just fancy victorian/gothic attire, sometimes done with sex appeal in mind, for girls of such small stature.

Generally you can tell apart the erotic lolis from the ones that are just meant to be children by the size of their hips. Lolis meant to evoke arousal have unnatural curves for their age, stuff like pear-shaped frame and huge butt. (Which as you mentioned are really just shorter, flat-chested teenagers, but if that's what gets their dick going then who are we to judge)

>>168493579
>>168493081
It's a body type, nothing else. A 10 year girl that looks like a 18 year old girl isn't a loli, and a petite girl that's actually 18 year old (like Anzu from Im@s) is still a loli.

>>168493647
>not getting a boner from completely flat and curveless loli
Shame on you

>>168493770
>curveless loli
no

>>168480274
What does mapping mean in this context? Is it just a word for creating the model for the map? Or the whole design process?

>>168493081
A little boy with a skirt, then...

>>168493793
yes
https://exhentai.org/g/1027311/3e64475abc/

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Updated the textures on all the aircraft so that they don't reflect too much light like a waxed car.

Also, rebindable keys are a mistake. Hopefully once I get this rebinding system up and running I don't run into too much trouble trying to get the Joysticks running.

>>168493109
>she's a wimp!
Hey you take that back she's trying her best.

>>168493864
nah sorry mate, I just feel like I'm looking at a plank

>>168494007
Aircraftdev, does your game have cockpit view?

>>168492939
This.

Is it faster to check if a float is <= something or check if an object reference is null? The quicker check should go first

>>168495460
Evil optimization.
Sorry to be rude but I doubt that your game is high level enough to need that kind of optimization.

>>168495505
it never hurts

>>168495460
IIRC <= is actually two checks in one in most language (< and if that fails =). Do the math. Always, even though it's faster in this case, it's good practice afaik to null check first, since logically if you NEED that shit that's null you can't continue further. Doesn't matter what your float is at all at that point.

>>168495685
Proof please.

I would think it is hardware dependant not language.

>>168494007
careful not to make them too dull looking

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Quick in-engine test with placeholder textures and rig, please ignore squiggly fingers.

What's your best advice for gitting gud at Substance Painter?

>>168496035
Try to develop things you see in photographs exactly. It is the facsimile of what you are doing already.

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gain + sharpness concept

>>168496949
>>168494007
>no reply

thank mr hiro

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>that feel when you are retarded when it comes to gamedev

But at least comfy sailing dev gave me some ideas.

>>168497334
>>that feel when you are retarded when it comes to gamedev
I know that feeling too well.
That water looks dope though.

I'm going to close the browser and only dev today.

Wish me luck!

>>168497409
See you in 2 minutes.

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>>168497409
but if you closed the browser you won't see my encouragement

>>168497334
You managed to gave me motion sickness in 30s.

>>168497381
Thanks anon, I mostly have no idea what im doing in terms of visuals. Its a simple sine based ocean shader, with reflection and shiny dialled up. And a bit of tessellation.

Going to stick to memepoly, untill I get better at 3d.

>>168497491
Sorry, I recorded at 15fps. Will figure something better for next time.

>>168497334
How do you stop the water from clipping the boat? Stencil buffer?

>tfw many different ideas
>no idea which one to work on first

>>168497752
Yes, I've seen some examples of that for UE, but I haven't had time to do it yet.

Will look into it after I add proper boat model and few more tweaks to shader.
Its hard to find time to learn and implement everything, but at this stage its quite fun because results are very visual.

Man it's amazing just how much work you can get done when you don't have a tab open to 4chan which you check every 10 minutes. I easily made 3 days worth of progress in a single day, now time to reward myself with some beer and heavy dose of shitposting. I recommend this to everyone else.

>>168498074
you can further optimize this by 4chanx with a thread watcher and automatically watching threads you post in to see if you get any replies. cuts down on a lot of wasted tabs being kept open and thus your time.

>>168498074
post your progress

Post Cops Jam game ideas
protip you can't cos cops is a dumb theme

@168498708
stop be a faggot and come up with your own ideas

>>168498708
A game where you play as a cop who needs to defend important trash cans against hordes of dumb antifa

>>168498708
Filing traffic reports in a donut shop at 3am. you have to accurately fill out the reports or you loose points, if your coffee meter gets too low you start to fall asleep.

>>168498852
Holy shit yes this

>>168498852
I don't get it

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>>168499090

>>168498708
I was thinking of combining Cops Jam and Pirate Jam.

You play as a Coast Guard, defending your shores from either:
A: Somali-style modern pirates
B: Time travelling yo-ho-ho style pirates
C: Video-game pirates trying to get into the country to poison the minds of the consumerist youth.

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>>168498247
special bombs +1

>>168499287
Where's the game though? I only see setting.

>>168498708
Post Loli Jam game ideas
protip you can't cos loli is a dumb theme

Anyone know a good comprehensive Unity tutorial? Preferably a 3D one. I have access to CGPeers if that helps.

The ones on the Unity website aren't exactly that indepth..

>>168499356
>thinking of

Just brainstorming. I'm still in the absolute-basics level of learning gamedev/programming so I'm not really looking to participate in a Jam just yet.

It's nice to think of concepts though. If I can at least practice that for Jams then I'll be more creative when I eventually do join in.

>terrain generation algos and approaches
Speak on this

>>168498708
tactical rpg about sweeping buildings as a swat team

>>168499495
PÅERLIN NOICE

>>168499495
Noise

Innit

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>>168498708
GIGN vs Hills

Is it ok to start a side project whilst collabing with someone? I just have this idea and don't know what else should I do until he delivers the assets.

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>>168499495

>>168499741
That's how the binding of isaac was created

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>>168498708
>>168499287

loli cops vs somali pirates

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How do I find someone to collab with?

>>168500046
1. stop posting nodev pictures, that's bound to work
2. post progress

>>168500046
Just collab with yourself.

>>168499840
Honto ni?

Now that you mention it. One of the Super Meat Boy guys worked on it, right?

>>168500046
You looking for an artist?

>>168500046
It depends. What can you offer?

>>168500239
Yeah, edmund, the artist/designer for both games.
While he was working on either post-release smb or the cancelled cat game, he started isaac as a side project with one of his flash buddies

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>>168500046
Post contact info I'll hit you up

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How are you supposed to pay taxes from your released game's income?

>>168500412
>sup /agdg/ how do i adult

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hey look those platforms are moving

>>168500412
you aren't
your chances of making a living on indie games are little to none
everyone knows that and that's why everyone was outraged over steam's potential 50x fee increase, because steam greenlight releases were treated as a way to make some additional pocket money rather than the main source of income, which is what gabe is trying to push now

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>tfw you get another issue you don't understand

This time it's the projectiles on the left not lining up sometimes, as if there was a delay between them.
The way it spawns the projectile is just by doing a spawn projectile, rotated by an angle by default at -10 which is incremented by 5 once the projectile is spawned, and that 5 times.
The ball at the center has the same function, with the same angles but it has none of the problems.

Does anyone have a single clue as to what could be wrong ? That happens even if the character doesn't move by the way.

>>168500637
if your game is only worth pocket change then it's shit

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>>168500637
>most peoples chances of making a living on indie games are little to none
Correction

>>168500706
What engine and what specific code are you using to spawn projectiles?

>>168500637
>your chances of making a living on indie games are little to none
Sure, if you're a loser with no talent with no desire to improve and no respect for his work.
Oh wait, it's incredibly easy to make money if you actually make something worthwhile.

>>168500798
does furry bait count as worthwhile?

>>168500896
only if your cat is huggable

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>>168500764
UE4
Pic related is what the function I made looks like. It's called as long as the player is holding down the fire key (or in the case of the enemy, as long as it has more than X healthpoints or until a certain delay)
I'm looking at the projectiles to see if there's a difference that shouldn't be there but I can't find any either

>>168500412
You hire an accountant to do as much tax avoidance as legally possible

>>168499768
i second this. it gives a great foundation for anyone to expand on. the only problem i had with this book was the renderman shaders, far from a big deal, but it does show its age though.

>>168500798
I am still waiting for someone to post a good game that didn't make at least 10,000 dollars

Indie games being failures ONLY applies to shitty developers.

>>168500708
>>168500710
>>168500798
life is not a fairytale
actually succeeding financially and gathering decent sales and popularity is a lottery. the quality of your shilling matters here more than the quality of your game

>>168501140
The only way to shill a turd is to have a massive budget

>>168501140
not my fault your game is shit and you can't figure out marketing

git gud

>>168501039
Know anything cool more up to date?

>>168501101
ahem
http://store.steampowered.com/app/343150

>>168501262
>Mostly Negative (26 reviews)

This is Steam by the way, where even the biggest piles of absolute shit receive "Mostly Positive"

>>168501319
anon stop you're hurting his ego, oh wait this is 4chan
>>168501262
WOW A PLATFORMER WHERE YOU JUMP AND SHOOT HOW ORIGINAL NICE GRAPHICS BRO U FUCKING FAGGOT LMAO

>>168501140
If you make smart decisions and have a quality product you're gonna be living in easy mode.
Where most retards fail is wasting years of their life and taking loans expecting to develop a one hit wonder, make a billion dollars and live the rest of their lives with a model girlfriend in the Bahamas, when in reality you can just make small good projects and make stable income and move onto bigger projects with little to no risk.
Oh, and game dev is not just for any average neet with no talent. It's better some of you realize that before you waste years of your life when you could be building a career somewhere else.

>>168500996
I've got no fucking idea how to read that tbqh desu

>>168501262
what do the mostly negative reviews say about how the game is bad?

>>168501562
>>168501356
>>168501319
how new

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Small progress
Fixed a couple of bugs and tweaked some old stuff that I hadn't shown before.
Players will sit and stand in a different way if they are close or far from the fire. Shadow's lenght and color change according to players distance to the fire too. Logs will have shadows with the same effect.

Only stuff left is to finish the tweaks I'm making to the background graphics and some animations. Add the sounds and then start testing the networking. That last one will take the biggest amount of time though.

>>168501591
>falling for double-bait

>>168501591
>being this new

>>168501662
>falling for triple-bait

>>168501662
>>168501679
>falling for triple bait
lmao how new

>>168501712
>i-i-i-i was only pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be retarded!

>>168501591
I'm new, what's the deal with this game?

>>168501509
ah whatever then, I'm taking a break, this stupid shit is tiring myself out

>>168501868
tl;dr a retard came here to shill his game, /agdg/ carved him a second anus, but he didn't stop being retarded and became a local meme

>>168501868
>>168501967
He also blamed some big conspiracy on why the game was poorly removed and unsuccesful

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>>168501595

>>168501868
The "creator" posted his game here saying a bunch of trolls are sabotaging his game by leaving negative reviews and asked us to buy his game, leave positive review and then refund the game if we don't want it so we can "stick together and help each other as fellow poor indie dev bros".

Whether it really was the creator or just some elaborate shitposting, and whether the negative reviews really are just "trolls" it's anyone's guess, but this game definitely wasn't posted here for the first time, you can try searching through the archives for "dream king" and "trolls" or something like that.

>>168501039
i just looked it up since its been a few years since i last looked into renderman, but it seems pixar released a free NC version of it.
as far as something more modern, i cant really think of anything off the top of my head. most of the stuff in the book is really well explained both mathematically and in programming languages. so despite its age, its still regarded as good reference material

only other thing i can think of is this book, though i have not yet read it myself
https://www.amazon.com/3D-Engine-Design-Virtual-Globes/dp/1568817118

>>168501240
woops, accidentally replied to myself >>168502125

>>168500706
>>168500996
Code looks fine to me. Have you tried using the standard ForLoop 1 to 5 to spawn projectiles instead? It's just that I don't like the way DoN is connected.

>>168501967
>>168502073
>>168502108
Now I understand everything, thanks.