/ng/ - Nioh General

What weight armor are people wearing as axe?

>>168464657
You can do all of them. But if you want a build that focuses on strong attacks you'll need at minimum medium.

Are the same revenants following me around, or does everybody have a Kusanari Tsurugi with only two abilities?

>>168464808
everyone gets the same drops pretty much minus reforging/forging ofc but there aren't a lot of armor sets worth using, same for elemental effects

>>168464657
I'd go with heavy to get more of the armor value when you tank hits.

>>168464657
I tried heavy to start, didn't like it, went mid then eventually light. Once you get the Intensity mystic art heavy becomes viable again, since it greatly increases damages on attacks that drain your ki and heavy drains the shit out of your ki. Combined with Rage (which boosts your attack for a time whilst increasing ki drain) shit can get kinda silly.

tanuki balls

>tfw missions achievement rate is full

I did it lads
I become the Conqueror.

>Manage to actually kill off Oda in the Yuki/Oda fight
>Die to Yuki's retarded fuckoff grapple

I think I might come back with better gear. This is upsetting me too much. That or just headshot cheese it with Saika set. He's really easy to headshot and groundstab repeatedly.

I just got to that ninja level with the Toad and this is the coolest level ive seen in a long time in any vidya

>>168465170
it's way easier to just rush yuki imo, she's vulnerable a lot more often and is also really open to getting in back attacks as long as you're not using something really slow

>>168465170
Yuki's grapple is absolute bullshit at close range, but if you stay at a distance it becomes the most punishable attack in the game.

Run away, she'll try to close the distance and come up short, sprint and get a couple of quick hits then run away as she does her AoE. Repeat and you're laughing.

>Orochi boss fight

What the fuck is this shit how the fuck are you supposed to hit the fucking heads when you get hit by 4 projectile bullshit anytime you stand still for longer than a second

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31 points on health and almost every hit one shotted me.

>>168465467
defense on your gear is bad. This game uses an absolutely unforgiving damage fomrula

>>168465467
>getting hit by ogress

>>168464746
>>168464902
>>168464931

So you are all grade c agility and block/trade most attacks instead of dodging?

>>168465598
Ogress is the hardest boss in the game. Ice cunt is the easiest.

>>168465879
WHAT

>>168465879
>ogress
>hard

Pick only one

>>168465447
focus on one

>>168465865
I'm >>168464931, and that's my current build yeah. Biggest problem with it is complete lack of diversity, since it only really works with the axe used in that specific way and the occasional 1kat stand-in-the-middle-of-ten-mobs-and-parry-everything rodeo.

>>168466079
I'll take hard please bb ;)

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>>168465865
Not an axe user.

>tfw go ham on boss
>host overcommits and dies

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
so many people think they're invincible once the summon has arrived

>>168465447
stop standing still

So you can only parry fodder humanoids? No yokis or bosses?

>Come across a field of graves
>Everyone died to a Tengu
>Maybe it was a clusterfuck fuck
>No the only enemy in the area is a single Tengu
Birds and monks worst enemies in the game, goddamn.

>>168466259
they would be if you took the durability to allies ability so they took less damage.

But you didn't Did you

>>168465879
lol its funny cus the opposite is true haha XD

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Took me 10 to 15 tries to beat Umi-Bozu. The fight itself is easy, but I kept falling in the cocksucking water.

>>168466279
You can parry the undead enemies.

You can parry any humanoid bosses.

You can parry Hino-enma; when she charges you, a parry will knock her to the ground.

That's all I know, but I'm sure there are others. Wouldn't surprise me if you can parry ice cunt's charge.

>>168466402
It isnt.

>>168466328
yeah, let's make the game even easier

I didn't realize that the wheelmonks had an instant ki-loss thing on the other side of the wheel. Makes them much easier to manage.

>>168466451
I dont think you can parry her charge because its a grab.

captcha - impass parry

>dying to stupid ass shit as a summon

Never doing coop again.

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>>168464529
i feel like i should think the bellflower kabuto is dumb, but something about it is really cool to me

>>168466282
just like real life

never fuck with birds or monks

>>168464529
Anyone know where I can find a revenant with a divine masamune?

>>168466483
Not easy to them

>>168466474
It is.

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>>168466679
How embarrassing. I tried to help people with water tentacle boss and kept falling into holes before getting to the boss room. One host messaged me and called me a useless retard and I havent co op since then

>>168466449
Did Umibozu on Twilight yesterday morning and only ever died because I kept underestimating the size of the platform during the second phase. Blob didn't touch me once but those fucking holes kept getting me.

>>168466902
it's happened to me too anon, i'd also be pretty discouraged if i got called a useless retard

>>168466449
So who is this Sachi girl? Why isnt she in the game?

>>168466328
is that a thing? I looked through magic+ninja tree and the hidden teahouse. I cant find anything. Am I getting memed

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>>168466902
>One host messaged me and called me a useless retard

Oh, Anon.

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>>168466279
Axe can parry everything, but without Intensity it's a shit parry.

>>168467147
it's a clan ability. It gets pretty up there if your loyalty is high

>>168466449
>I'm Sachi!
>Saaa-chi!
Sachi a cute

but who is she

>>168467235
She's onryoku

>>168467316
Stop

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>>168466976
>Visitor does bow gesture multiple times to wall-oni
>Attacks us
>Send him a message after session saying to try a different emote (blue, yellow, red) if it doesn't work the first time
>You Rock!!!
T-thanks

>>168466902
>join a random yokai realm with a companion
>pull up a gun to snipe an enemy
>a skellington kills us both while we weren't paying attention and ends the match

I feel pretty stupid

sloth is for fucking casuals who can't dodge for shit. be ashamed for even allocating a point in it.

>>168467434
Meant for >>168466902

>>168467434
Are the emotes all random? There are like 30 of them. Hard to guess the right one.

>>168467710
With the walls the specific gesture doesn't matter. He likes either a blue, yellow, or red one.

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>>168467710
That's the other emote yokai

>tfw 86hours on my char
I love this game.

>>168467207
>Expecting anyone to pass up on Luck for that

Nah m8

>>168467434
>help random guy out with the gift for muneshige mission
>get a friend request afterwards from the guy
>every time he sees me playing he asks me if I want to co-op
>keeps sending me messages telling me how good at the game I am when I help him beat a boss and give him advice on how to deal with nurikabe and mujina nonlethally
>keeps sending me messages asking me if I saw that cool thing he did that actually did some damage to something
I'm a completely average player but this guy is all over my dick for some reason. I don't get it, but I begrudgingly have to admit I find his awe and desire for my approval quite endearing.

...Am I senpai? Does he want me to notice him?

>decided to co-op
>in that stage where umi bozu is the boss
>accidentally falls off the ledge

>>168468068
retarded casual. Delete him he's not worth it.

>>168467849
You should add that Mujina only does one of the nine emotes you have on your quick access when it pops out, no need to start frantically looking through all your emotes.

which armor set affected sign of cross damage? was it 2 piece bonus?

What's the purpose of divine fragments for reforging? It's more expensive but still gives same pool of bucks bonuses.

>>168468068
I ignore any friend requests, not looking to run someone through the entire game. If someone asks for help on a different mission though, I say I just help people through random encounters.

>>168468139
So 4/5 summons?

>>168464529
is it ever worth it to use the slower spear grapple over the standard one?

>>168468068
Ask for dick pics.

So what's the point of low level twilight missions? They don't give you anything remotely worthwhile if you're anywhere past the mission level.

>>168468373
I would have and did in the first version, except multiple anons in the thread when I first posted this said that sometimes the Mujina will use something from your extended menu. And then earlier today it happened to me myself.

It seems to be rare to the point where I totally forget it's a thing in between occurrences, but it happens.

Fucking testicle badgers, man.

>>168468653
I did one just to complete my list for the trophies

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>>168468068
>get help from someone/help someone out
>spam positive emotes
>run around in circles fast when we beat the boss
>bow to them one final time before never seeing them again

The...only true way...

>>168468653
They're marginally harder versions of their lower level non-twilight counterparts. I don't understand your confusion.

>Regular Iai does 1,000+ damage for me
>The anime as fuck running Iai does 200

What the hell.

>>168467964
rude dude

>>168468653
Clearing the checklist. The game does keep track of what twilight missions you've done.

Source: I've only done a few, but it's recycled one I've done today and it was already marked as completed.

>>168468809
Normal Iai is amazing. Tiger Sprint even with the set bonus is shit and will be shit forever. Barrage on the other hand with the bonus is fucking amazing

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRfzfZW6VQCSRVCNeNt6V6w shamelessly asking for help on what im doing wrong with the big cat guy

>kurisagama mystic arts
>Weight attacks has more damage from health and ki as well as lower ki consumption.
>sickle attacks has more damage from health and ki as well as lower ki consumption.

I'm leaning on choosing weight. any ideas?

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can you get Hideaki's sword? I think it looks neat.

>>168466449
Don't hold forward. Don't even lock on.

>>168469064
Yes.

So does anyone have any insight on how the saves work, specifically what might cause them to overwrite? I made my primary character first and then about 12 hours in decided to play a ninja so I made one. At the same time I made a third character to fuck around with axes a bit. After some fuckery with both I went back to play my main and it was gone, replaced by two saves of the axe man.
It's not a huge deal, its not like I can't make up some time, but now I don't even want to play my ninja (which I really liked) because I'm worried that it might fuck with my main save and overwrite it (which I just started over) and I have no idea how I even overwrote it in the first place.

>>168469064
Yes. It's part of his set. You get it's smithing text along with the armor's when you clear the area.

>>168466490
There's a lot like this.

Like Yoki fall over when their head is damaged, and Spiders tumbling down when their butt is hurt.

Basically look for glowing yellow things and beat the shit out of that.

>>168469002
I feel like 80% of the attacks use the weight. A lot of the meat and potatoes attacks seem to at least.

>>168468945
Kiwi or Aussie?

Does every single enemy have a smithing text you can farm or just bosses? Some of the fodder enemies have nice looking sets too.

is there a specific mission people are doing to get that -1 bonus set piece charm? Or is it just random?

>>168469064
yea, it's called atagi sadamune and i always use that shit for refashioning

>>168469162
Or just steal some from revenants. Have loads of them from contributing to my clan.

>>168468412
I believe it is a higher chance of getting crazy shit like scales with heart/spirit etc.

>>168469268
the strongest attacks use the sickle. It's literally a choice between fast and strong

>>168469285
a lot of those are available to forge by default, i think default samurais and the white sekigahara samurais don't have obtainable armor

>>168469212
OH and the yoki with the crystals on their backs can be killed easily if you hit their back crystals enough so they explode. Just watch out for the explosion. Not sure if people know this. A lot of people I have cooped with stay to their front which is annoying.

>>168468412
the assumption is that divine fragments have a higher chance of higher tier upgrades. Speaking from experience, that certainly FEELS to be the case

but it could just as well not be the case and I wouldn't be any wiser

Anyone wanna hook a nioh up with some magatama locations? Got 3 of them so far, the 2 obvious side missions and then the last level side mission.

>Doing the NG+ Spider castle
>Jumbo spiders are dropping Hiragumo fragments again.

Why? I already have teahouse access...

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>>168468772
>not having a nice cup of Tea at the end of missions with your battle buddy

>>168469545
it's not the crystals on the back it's the element. You probably have a weapon that super charges their crystal. What it is is the crystal correspond with an element. use that element and they'll overcharge and blow up

>>168469545
>OH and the yoki with the crystals on their backs can be killed easily if you hit their back crystals enough so they explode.
That's wrong, through???

They explode if you hit the enemy itself with a matching element enough times. How much damage you do or what part you hit makes no difference.

>>168468772
or spice things up and do the shoo emote when you're leaving

>>168469607
Hiragumo fragments just unlock a trophy if you get all six. You unlock the teahouse after beating jorogumo regardless.

how do I get rid of the DLC weapons/armor?

Can't sell them at the shrine, no option to destroy them from inventory

>>168468772
I've given up on trying to get the high-five emote to work

>>168469848
Store them in the storage house?

>>168469857
From my understanding, it doesn't. You just cancel it after leaving the menu at the same time as them to make it look like you're doing it.

>>168469334
no one???

>>168468945
Just keep sprinting to his side. Don't bother rolling. Also use high stance when you hit him.

>>168469857
>select high-five
>press square

It's not so hard

>>168469914
I guess, it's dumb that they give you garbage lvl 6 equipment and don't let you destroy it though

Facts about the Axe!

The Axe is:
- The least used weapon in the game
- The most patrician weapon in the game

The Axe is not:
- A weapon for the conquered
- A weapon for people who hate fun

>>168469272
aussie senpai
>>168469980 thanks mate

>when people try to heal your critical hp build
Look I appreciate you fellas I really do. But keep that oasis away from me

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Can someone give me the rundown on the Kusarigama?

I can see the appeal of the axe and spear after using them a fair bit in the demos despite being a 3 kat shitter, but the Kusa feels like the windup takes forever. (Or do I need to git gud and learn some skills?)

Also for luck, does it work for reforging weapon and armour stats? Could I get all purple if I chucked on the spider spirit and loaded up on luck based items?

>>168470189
well considering how bosses leaves less opening here compared to soulsborne I'd say It's shit

>>168469484
That makes it a tougher choice. I've not used the kusarigama very much I'm afraid. It feels like it could be fantastic but I"m having trouble with it committing to attacks too much (dart in, start attacking, go to dodge out, whoops I'm not done twirling around for another 7 minutes)

>>168470189
Katana is the most patrician weapon, how can you debate this?

>dodge onyudo's tongue
>night rain

The coolest shit of all time.

>>168470332
WROOOOOOONG

>>168470226
Block more. When you get hit by the fire things you can block the explosion, as long as it works the same way as a later boss.

>>168469740
really? do I have the power of every element? I need to check.

>>168470324
step 1, switch to low stance
step 2, there is no step 2

>>168470189
The revenants are sadly some of the easiest to fight since they're mostly all high stance using idiots.

>Just got Nioh
>spammed the hell outta dex for my first 15 lvls cus I wanted to be samurai as fuck
>apparently none of my katanas or dual katanas even scale off dex

fuck me, are there at least some weapons that break the mold and scale off different stats than the rest of their class?

>>168469804
Great Queen Spider also loses her armor if you get all six

>>168470324
>stacks well with a ninjutsu build
>ki damage
>close range on low and high stance. High stance has a throw weight attack but has a long recovery period.
>mid range on mid stance

>>168468945
Also you're missing out on free damage when he does the laser beam. When you see him start charging run to his side and beat the fuck out of him.

>>168470575
She has armor? On her legs or something?

>>168466902
>summon someone at the start of the level
>immediately dash into the VERY FIRST place you can fall to the left
you just gotta laugh

Can you only get divine weapons/armor from drops? I'm getting annoyed fighting Otani in path of the strong

>>168470189
The Axe is for:
-People that feel like they matter while trying to be two-faced.
-Are in fact for the conquered

>>168470383
Kusarigama is a lot of commitment into openings. It's not different than using heavy Iai draws with the 1 kat. With the kusarigama only mid stance has any kind of range and low is for hit and away while heavy is for low ki openings.

It's the least useful option for stance dancing because it's stances vary wildly in application and windup. I think you'll get the swing of it by messing around with it a bit more.

>>168470405
a vid of you using hammer against yuki onna or bullshit.

>>168470332
I beat the entire game with the axe. I just beat Yuki Onna and Nobunaga with my axe too. I killed Yuki Onna in less than 10 seconds. It did take a lot of tries though. I had to shoot Oda in the head with an arrow then run up and hope I had an opening to start tanking through hits while bashing her head in for extra damage. Then once she was dead I just ki broke Oda to death. fun.

Using carnage talisman plus having that negative ki axe mystic skill helps a lot. Can do so much fucking damage.

Is it possible to get to green equip load in full ebony armour?

>>168470575
I did wonder why she had no armor when I fought her but her yokai illustrations entry made a point of showing and describing her as having a load of armor plating.

>>168470718
Not that anon but I could do that once I finish fucking around with my critical health build and get lucky enough on my loads

>>168470760
Somebody said it requires an extreme investment to do

>>168470656
Yeah. Its for when she gets all ridge raaaaaacer after you spank her bad girl bottom a few times

>>168470815
>Somebody said it requires an extreme investment to do
Since the full set gives Change to Stamina: A, that shouldn't be huge problem, right?

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>>168470226
I thought so, your accent isn't as strong and it almost came across kiwish like me

Good luck, you're pretty chill and entertaining

>>168468412
Divine fragments are easy as fuck to get in NG+ and have higher chance of giving you good effects

are all 5 of the legendary swords in Sekigahara?

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Tome is best boy(girl)

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Just completed Nioh.

Fuck, what an amazing game.

Pros:
>Level design
>Combat depth
>Waifus
>Husbandfus
>Bosses
>Armor (holy fuck is there a lot of armor in this game and they all look pretty damn great, really impressed with this one)
>Overall complexity

Cons
>Enemy variety really dampens the game
>Shitty story
I tried going back to Dark Souls 1 and 2 (PVP) recently as well as replaying Witcher 3 and holy fuck, those games feel so fucking clunky.

What Action games can I play that have similar levels of depth? No DMC (already played them all to death, loved them) please.

I really wanna try out Ninja Gaiden but there's no PC emulated version/release.

>>168470396
How is Night Rain compared to quick draws?

Killing Revvies with Shockwaves into quickdraws are handy though.

It doesn't do more damage does it?

>>168471092
I wouldn't say the story is shit, but it's just kinda there.

>it's a mission has an npc """"""""""""""helper""""""""""""""""" episode

What's the best way to deal with those huge long-tongued oni? I'm in the third region now and every time I encounter one it's always a rough time, probably the only enemy that gives me any real trouble 1-on-1. Can't seem to figure out their weakspot, beside their tongue, but I haven't been able to sever it yet.

How the HECK am I suppose to beat the sub mission with TWO (2) Tengus?

>>168470930
Probably not anon

>>168471405
Have them run into a wall, or get better with low/mid stance dodging

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>>168468772
>>168469656
>>168469793
>He doesn't scream in the host's face whilst they try to high-five you before leaving

Plebs

>>168467497
jokes on you I bought all 3 levels of it

NIOH 2 when?

>>168470991
You say that now, but wait until you've only got one roll you need for your dream build and you go through literal hundreds of those

>>168471449
slow one down with caltrops or go full casual with sloth

>>168471093
It does less damage unless you have the set bonus. Iai quickdraw is just better in every way compared to night Rain, but chaining quickdraws into Night Rains with some finger dexterity to change stances and not trigger Ki pulses is pretty fun

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>>168470189
The Axe is:
- For bullying Okatsu!

>>168470469
>do i have the power of every element?
What? How the fuck should I know what you have, I'm just letting you know you're wrong on how the explosion is triggered.

>>168471648
stop that, don't bully Okatsu

>>168467497
I have no shame using it for them dual boss fights.

If it's 2 against 1, I'm using cheap shit to even the playing field.

>>168471648
>calling in a companion
poor casul host

>>168471756
I wish people would summon more. These cups aren't going to farm themselves

>>168470760
I wore full ebony and book of reincarnation'd myself to 99 Stamina and it was like 71%

I don't know if there's anything that can make that lower whilst keeping every piece, but if you get one of those accessories that lets you use set effects whilst missing a piece you can just replace one piece of armour with something lighter to keep the stam scaling

Do carnage talismans and power pills stack?
If not, which one is better?

>>168471793
It's not worth the time it takes to find and join someone, since the host usually does something retarded and dies within 10 seconds.

Does luck affect rare rolls for reforging?

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YEEEEEEEEES

DSP HAS FINALLY PASSED MY DEATH COUNT.

FUCKING YES

DAILY REMINDER, IF DSP COMPLETES THIS GAME WITH LESS DEATHS THAN YOU THEN YOU ARE LITERALLY WORSE THAN DSP

>>168471871
I see. Thanks anon.

Hopefully I get lucky with my accessory farming.

>>168470641
>>168470976
thanks i appreciate it lads

Why did they fuck up the twilight missions?

SHEEIIIT which 1kat mystic should I get? I feel like I don't use enough dodging to use the dodge one, but I feel like the damage from behind one is only good with parries since the hitbox is wonky.

>>168471876
I always run through everything without caring, if the host makes it, cool. Otherwise I die in a blaze of glory.

Also the person that just summoned me skipped the cut scenes for the white tiger boss fight. What a fucking shitter.

>>168471935
What's he at and where's he at? I really can't be bothered to look into it.

If we get a sequel I hope they go for a slightly different setting, atmosphere and take more risks with gimmicks. Like the gravity level was kind of cool. Would like to see more stuff like that. After a while the levels start to look a little samey and boring for me. Its also too damn dark most of the time.

I cheesed the FUCK out of Moonshiggy by circling that rock for god knows how long. Does that make me a terrible person?

>>168471935
Didn't he die 20 times to Muneshige?

>>168472142

>What's he at
121
>Where's he at
Toad boss

How the fuck is he even dying to the Toad Boss, literally one of the easiest bosses in the game and most fun

>>168471935
What's your death count?

>>168472281
How the fuck is he 121 at Giant Toad

>>168472140
Yokai incense. I trigger them and have everything sucked directly into me. It's the only way toi go

>>168471092
Ninja Gaiden Black is 10/10 you can get a 360 pretty cheap if you don't have one and download it for like $10

>>168472281
Okay. I'm fine then.

>>168471874
Anybody?

>>168472376

He gets rekt a lot.

>>168472281
holy fuck level 120 is like 60 levels over what I was at that point

>tfw no guardian spirit that raises your equip load

Is there a way to check how many times I've died?

So do bosses change at all in Twilight Missions. So far the three I've done the bosses didn't seem any different aside from throwing down more yokai circles during attacks. I'm working through Umibozu's twilight level now, and while the mission itself is a bit tougher, I get the feeling the boss will be more of the same.

>>168472281
I often get his by his sudden side sweep to start a combo but that's just about it

>>168472516
Start - Titles - Gameplay Record - Actions

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>>168472516
Titles -> Gameplay -> r1

>>168471935
>dying as a summon counts toward ingame death count
what horseshit

>>168472650
well you did die so it makes sense

>>168472487
oh you said deaths

that's actually still about accurate then

>>168472650
You also use up your elixirs as well.
Everything that applies in single player applies there too.

So is blocking just bust on bosses?
Fought the first real big Oni boss at the end of the first real mission on the ship and it took me two tries because I tried to block with my spear, like I'd been doing with the other enemies but yeah, got shit pummeled.

>>168472906
You need high toughness and heavy armor to be able to block bosses

>>168472906
You need high toughness and heavier armor. If you're using light armor with low toughness blocking bosses especially will just stun you, but on the flip side if you have A rank agility from light armor you have the fastest roll in the game so you can dodge them easier.

>>168472906
block when he does the spin attack

>>168472609
>too slow

You're not sanic enough anon

btw everyone, is there a way to check your in-game time, in game? the only way I've found is looking at your save data from app save data management

>>168472357

112, just beat the Ogress Mission. Most my deaths come from shitty mobs and falling because I play like a wreckless scrub

>>168472983
>>168472996
Gotcha.

I ended up just giving up and dodging in low stance and then switching to mid stance for some hits with a Water enchant on since I figured he was weaker to water than Fire.

Is there a certain best way to use the Living Weapon stuff?

>>168473014
Already beat him but I appreciate the info.

>>168471935
225 and two regions left on NG+

To be fair, about 30 deaths have been to NG+ shiggy because I was way unprepared and he was one-shotting me with literally every move.

>>168472715
Well sure but you lose absolutely nothing for it, so I'm prone to playing more reckless when there's nothing at stake. And a lot of those are just suiciding because I can't be arsed to follow the host around while he spends 20 minutes in the level
aside from that though, the grand majority of my deaths are from trying to style on bosses with carnage talisman

>>168473147
>Is there a certain best way to use the Living Weapon stuff?
I mean, use it when you're getting your shit pushed in. It's not really needed, even in later bosses, I beat the whole game going out of my way not to use it since I didn't like the mechanic.

>>168472906
you can block, just realize they do a LOT of Stamina damage, so dodging is often preferred. better to dodge than block, better to block than get hit.

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>start with 1kat and kurisagama
>eventually re-do Willy for 1kat and 2 kat
>eventually re-do Willy for 1kat and gama again
>gonna try 3kat and maybe spear this time
Thank fuck the books are cheap as chips when it comes to glory. This game is so fun to mess around in.

>>168472906
I blocked the very last one of Ogress' spaz attack just, so it has its uses. Also I see they changed the death lillies level quite a bit from the demo, couldn't find the last bastard kodama for days.

Also the ninja house was fucking awesome.

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So how much harder is NG+?

Are there any unique armor sets (I don't mean just upgraded versions of sets found in the base game, I mean totally new Armor) or different enemy placements?

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>>168473159
imique related.

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Can I farm NG bosses for the smithing texts or is it only for NG+?

>>168473294
NG+ is literally the same game, but the enemies have 10 times the health.
Shit game design desu. I'll be getting For Honor instead

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>>168465315
>>168465421
I got there. No major cheese abuse at all. We really need to share the following advice as more and more people inevitably reach the endgame.

>Nobunaga will activate his special spell attack only one he's done he double sword dash attack.
>If you're careful and gud, you can kick him into a grapple state almost any time he engages you directly with LW active
>When he mashes horizontal swings while LW is inactive, you can pretty much mash 1kat parry and often get a result
>The usual "start with a headshot+groundstab" doctrine applies. I used Shadowround Talismans so I could get more milage out of my ammo in general
>Yuki is extremely vulnerable to Hayama Arrows. Headshotting her repeatedly to crush her Ki is pretty strong. She's so fucking easy to shoot
>Headshots vs. Oda are clutch and you get a super brief opening every time he summons LW. One the Guardian Spirit has flown away but just before he can start moving, you can nail him and get a groundstab
>Yuki-Onna is easy but once you get to phase 2 you HAVE to use hit&run tactics and focus mostly on punishing only her biggest openings.

>>168473209
Yeah, it feels kinda "cheap" almost.

>>168473212
Are all of the bosses going to be huge oni demons or are there some more human sized bosses? Trying to figure out if I should just run light armor and go back to dodging.

>>168473294
Altered enemy placements for the most part and that's about it. There are no new armor sets, just increased chances of green drops of higher ranking and the ability to forge gear higher than level 150.

heh casuals

zero deaths here on NG++++ went unarmed and naked from the start no leveling of course also i sell all my elixirs for gold to buy silly hyottoko masks

>>168473294
Lazy.

Expect more Tengus out the ass, double bosses, etc. No new gear that you can't already get in NG besides divines, tons of new enemy placements.

Mission rewards are better though and you can get amrita/gold out the ass to ease the reforge grind.

>>168473353
NG works fine for farming smithing texts but some people are saying that NG+ has a better drop rate, not sure if that's true though.

>>168473294
The weapons you get from orochi are rare drops. There is NG+ exclusive accessories which you'll spend your twilight years trying to farm. Enemy placements are remixed. Twilight realms are especially remixed.

Enemies are about the same as you would expect per region in terms of durability. So weak as shit to strong as shit from realm 1 to final realm

>>168473353
You can but it's low as fuck, not sure if NG+ has higher rates. Took me 81 kills of Naomasa for his set and I found out it isn't even needed since his fucking armor is the most common divine drop in NG+.

So I did a lot of testing and crafted around 7-8k weapons since yesterday and here are the results and observations I made.
The level of the crafted weapon seems predetermined and there seems to be one weapon out there somewhere in the crafting pool, waiting for you to discover it.
It does absolutly not matter how many divine fragments you use, you can even roll a blue or yellow 320. I got 320 weapons with 1-10 fragments. That implies that you could probably craft one without using fragments at all. But I did not test that yet due to saving my sanity :P --> Use 1 Fragment
Save scumming works not in the classic way -> 8k crafts is nowhere near enough data to be 100% sure yet but when I am save scumming and recrafting the same weapon with the same materials I NEVER get a 320 Weapon out of it. Around 6k crafts I tried save scumming the very same weapon over and over without a positive result!!
Each weapon seems to have their own rgn table and that can be "abused"
It is absolutly not fun
The biggest misstake I did and saw many people doing on stream is to try and recraft the same weapon over and over and over again. So what you want to do is simply to get the fragments and materials to craft around 50-100 weapons, whatever you feel comfortable with. Upload your save to the psn cloud or an USB stick and start crafting plenty of weapons with 1 fragment. If it does not work, just download your savefile and try again with ANOTHER weapon. I started this method around 2 hours ago and am getting 320 weapons consistenly, might be luck. I do not know but for that we need more data. So please go give it a try and inform me when it works for ya.

>>168473372
>Getting an even more shittier game.
You're funny anon

What are the essential ninja skills that aren't projectiles?

>>168473410
There are human sized bosses but they are 100x harder than the hueg bosses

>>168473410
It's about half and half. Both have completely different mechanics in terms of fighting them. You didn't think a game in the midst of the sengoku period wouldn't have honorable samurai bouts did you?

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>>168470324
I'm going to teach you how to deal with every human enemy in the game, from Revenants to duels

Get the high stance rope grab. Okay?
Now get the high stance leg sweep. Got it?

1) Facing the target of your shittery, and switch into high stance

2) Grab them when the long range rope grab and drag them towards you.

3) Now, when they're still getting up, mash leg sweep like a mad man

4) If you didn't fuck things up and they didn't get pulled out of range if your leg sweep, you'll knock them down for a Final Blow. Give'em the goods
---4a) When someone is getting up after a Final Blow, you have a small window for free damage.
---4b) You might be able to fit in another leg sweep after this, as per 4a. If this happens, you can go ahead and smack your target again with another Final Blow.

5) Repeat until out of Ki or death of target.
---5a) For extra credit, use something that increases your ki recovery speed or just in general gives you more ki so you can get more Sweep -> Final Blow loops in. I'm told the dark arts of Onmyo has something for this.
---5b) Sloth Talisman + Caltrops + Lightning Proc via Paired Doges summon talisman to increase the timing windows of the loop to point where you can recover ki in bursts if you delay your loops just right.


Now for the ultra secret part
After the third enemy you do this to, it becomes boring and routine.

>>168473721
Odd my strategy seems to be better
Step 1) Iai strike
Step 2) grapple
Step 3) Iai strike

Is there a list of all the Revvies that drop special items?

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>>168471935
But I died intentionally a few times trying to do boss fights without getting hit.

anyone wanna do some ginchiyo request farming with me?

>>168473721
>>168473845
I like my strategy

Step 1: Retard guard charge until they're knocked on their ass
Step 2: Killing strike
Step 3: There is no step 3 that nigger's dead

>>168473958
what can you get from that?

>>168473630
Power pills, Composure (The barehanded blade catch), the one that gives you a free backstab/visceral/whatever if you sneak up on enemies, the ones that give you more ammo capacity, the ones that reduce ki used in dashing and evasive rolls are nice.

>>168474002
My strategy seems to be superior
1) Take Nioh
2) Drive to Gamestop
3) Trade in Nioh
4) Buy For Honor and preorder Dark Souls III GOTY Edition

>>168474008
100k gold every two minutes on way of the strong. farming with a bud makes it faster.

Which guardian spirit are you guys using? I'm using that 2 dogs because I'm retarded and use 2 katanas mostly, so in my retarded mind it makes sense each one of them belonging to 1 katana.

Also, they are [spoilers]cute[/spoilers]

How good are Water Shot talismans, exactly? Do they apply the debuff quickly? How about to bosses?

>>168473721
1. ) medusa powder
2. ) paralyzed. Grapple.
3. ) Enemy immediately gets paralyzed again. Grapple

Rinse and repeat

@168474119
Why are faggots like this trying so hard to shill 4Honor. If you're gonna buy a ubijew game at least get Siege or something.

>>168474326
Don't give him attention and he'll leave one day

>>168474241
they're good as an opener and apply pretty quickly

fast cast hat or the mystic art make them a lot more usable

>>168474041
>Composure (The barehanded blade catch)

why would that be essential to anything other than an unarmed build

>>168469606
Nobody? Somebody has to know where the other two magatamas are

>>168474539
For shits and giggles. Also because even without building entirely into unarmed, just popping a power pill and whatever else then blade catching will annihilate a lot of shit.

>>168474524
I just wanted to do some experimenting with discord status
I have fire 2kat, if I use those, would I be effective?

>>168473617
I love this game and I'm at almost 90 hours but this is where I tap out. I hope the DLC changes things so it's a bit more clear.

>>168473721
I like mine better

1) Pop the Adamantine
2) Hold down Triangle
3) Golfswing that silly bitch for thinking he got a free opening.

>>168474229
Ye using the same, puppers too damn cool.

>>168473617
>>168474683
Why in god's name are some of you going so supremely ape over this the last few days. Like I can get figuring stuff out being interesting and just wanting to know, but d-a-m-n nigger.

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how do you get the red demon chest armor to show up in the fashion choices?

I want to look like street fighter man/double dragon

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>yfw you see someone with single Raiken

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How rare are these 5 legendary swords? Found 2 so far, only wind and water. This water one I found earlier looks fucking good, on top of based water type.
Can't wait to get the lightning version.

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>>168474904
Shit dude, you have to tell me what refashion you used there, that looks sick.

>>168474119
fuck off oroboro go shill for honour somewhere else

>>168474984
Looks like unusual armor chest piece, and hero legs.

>>168473617
Is 320 the level max for weapons or what? I thought it was 150

>>168474904
where did that sword drop?

what's the cheesiest, most shitter way to apply discord
I'm sick of farming this fucking boss

>>168475125
first rev at seki

>>168475140
enko spirit guardian
any other elemental shot
invite me to your game so i can kill him for you since you're a baby back bitch

>>168475125
Was doing The ghost of Sayama sub mission at final region, If I remembered correctly it dropped from a chest.

>>168475094
Clear a level 320 Mission in ng+ -> That unlocks forging weapons up to level 320
Gather materials to forge a trillion of any weapon (whatever you prefer)
Upload your savefile to the psn cloud or an usb-stick
Craft your favourite weapon till you go nuts or get the >1% chance of crafting a max level (320 apparently) level weapon. -> If you do not get one but run out of materials, just use your old savefile from the usb-stick and try again with a different weapon.

>>168474904
O-DENTA IS 2THICC

>>168475370
This sounds like some bullshit, can you post screenshots of this shit?

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So what is the general consensus on which bosses are the most difficult in this game?

If you include the Bat-Bitch then your list is instantly disregarded

>>168474672
should be pretty good. most enemies I've used the elemental shots on only took 2-3 to apply and I could apply the second element with 1kat just fine so 2kat should be even better for it

>>168475490
i think that faggot bird boy gave me the most trouble

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>>168475467

is heavenly flow (2kat parry) affected by "from behind damage" since you technically stab them in the back? Or is it not? Really like the shrike but if heavenly gets bonus damage from the back then i'd switch.

>>168475540
are we talking regular enemies, or bosses?

What would stop a weapon from inheriting +Agility to damage? I've got a decent Kusari I want to put +Agility to damage on, but it won't appear.

Is it +Close combat damage? Is thats whats fucking it up?

>>168475628
either
I find bosses easier to apply effects to actually since they don't usually block constantly

When do I make Willy's hair look cooler?

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died 147 times
only at spider castle
Fuck me.

>>168475490
I just reached Omi, can't comment on the one's I've yet to face.
But Shima Sakon & Muneshiggy are the only one's that gave me lots of trouble. And a bit from him>>168475592 too.
It's easy when he starts flying & drop a kunai on him but he's just unpredictable at times.

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>tfw the dream

anyone wanna do some co-op?

I've been using Kato for the whole game and got her to level 30 on NG+

That 25+ ki and increased recovery time on top of Li's set gives me some monstrous stamina and recovery speed too

>>168475140
This only applies to a boss that is not resistant to electricity, but paired raiken guardian talismans are basically a guaranteed lightning proc.

If they are resistant to lightning but not fire, use Enko's summon attack.

The best way to proc Discord is a water element first and then use a second element because water's status effect lowers element resistances and makes getting the second proc buttloads easier.

However, there doesn't seem to be a good Guardian spirit for proc'ing Water. Mizuki moves too randomly to land consistent hits and so does the shark. Haven't fucked around with the butterfly's summon yet, but I don't have high hopes. Turtle might be the answer, but P. Raiken shoot forward lightning (kek) fast to the target before doing their blitz dance, and I have literally never seen Enko NOT proc fire, even when I use him on Fire enemies.

If you're even deeper into magic use than just your free 3 guardian talismans, look into using element orb spells. They're projectiles of pure elemental damage, and if your magic stat is not shit and actually has some investment, you should be able to proc any element within 3 shots.


Also, does anyone else feel like Fire lasts the longest of all element status effects? That might actually move it up above water for being the priority first element if that's the case.

>>168475745
When you drop enough gold at the blacksmith to buy the barbershop upgrade.

>>168475490
Yuki onna fucked my shit up. Umi Bozu gave me some trouble with his laser. Other than that no bosses really took me THAT many tries to beat and all the big animal bosses I beat first try. This is without cheese too, the cheesiest thing I did was use a smokebomb on Oda.

>>168475490

Shima Sakon for being a huge flying faggot.

Umi for being the only fucking thing you ever get summoned for. Difficult because hosts keep eating death lasers or getting gangraped by add's.

And the Yuki+Oda wombo combo of assrape.

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>>168475810
>>168475592

Shieet, two bosses I have yet to get too.

Just beat Ogress (her and Shiggy were laughably easy for me because I died that much to them in the Alphas that I know their movesets to motherfucking PERFECTION).

Looking forward to these bosses kicking my ass and then watching DSP get his ass kicked by them

>>168472476
No, carnage is better

i'm at 89.5% for mission rate what the fuck am i missing?

Am I the only memester who likes to keep the Talismans extract spicey with UNLIMITED OMNYO (armor, accessories, guardian)?

>>168475490
Do we mean during our initial run?
1. Moonshiggy
2. Yuki-onnas charge
3. Both doubles
4. Yagyu
5. Yuki-onna
6. 3 kelly
All the rest can be disregarded

>>168475790

Eh, i'm around 110 and I just beat the Frog.

Not even been dying to bosses, mostly just dicking around trying to parry, playing wreckless and I was killing myself intentionally early on in the game to lose my Amirita as to not overlevel myself only to find out that it's almost impossible to avoid being underleveled when you reach the 4th region

Surprised over my death count, i've not really been finding the game hard (only boss who gave me problems was the Ice slut and that's only because her grab move has shitty hitboxes).

How do you figure PvP is eventually gonna factor into this game? I doubt it's gonna be anything like invasions unless it's the equivalent of red soapstone type shit, though more than that I'm betting it'll be it's own little ghetto with a dedicated arena maybe.

>>168476062
Probably not. I've seen infinite ninjutsu and infinite ammo builds as well

>>168475930

Genbu proc's water on everything in pretty much 1 shot unless it's immune to water. Downside is Genbu's attack is also decent enough to be worth using.

>>168475984
>ogress
>in the alpha
You wanna try that again m8

>>168476113
I imagine we'll either have an arena (likely)
or a third difficulty tier where revenants can invade to fuck your shit. (unlikely)

>>168476112
>killed himself intentionally to not over level
>110 at the frog

You fucked that up

>>168476113
Play as a grunt in Sekigahara

>>168476225
You know what he meant anon

>>168476112
I've been doing the same thing. It just feels bad to have died almost as many time as dsp.

>>168476262
>tfw being a spear shitter to buy time for big nig axe users
I'd play it.

>>168476225

>m8

I'm not your m8 buddeh

>>168476112
>>168476259
Oh my bad thought you meant level

>>168476403
>Buddeh

I'm not your buddeh, friendo.

>>168476259

Not really, I haven't been feeling underleveled at all even if i'm 5~ levels below the recommended for most missions.

Like I said, most of my deaths come from playing like an anime character

2kat + Spear is just way too fun, sure you can cheese by spamming the spear poke and dashing away but where's the fun in that anon?

>>168476343

>147 times

Actually m8, DSP has only died 126 times and he's quite a bit ahead of you (he's at the Frog Boss)

Don't feel bad though, he plays uses the scrub tactic I described above and I think he's overleveled with insane gear.

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>>168467434
I always send grats messages to my hosts who don't fuck up and they almost always reply with happy messages.
The only time I got a nasty message was when I accidentally fell because a nigga pulled an oni and monk near a damned cliff.

It's nice meeting good people in this game.

>>168475592
odd that i find that one easy.

Only shit I've had trouble with is yuki onna because of her fucking ice spears in her second phase especially if she does it consecutively. Had to use guns at that point.

>PVP is added
>equip a special talisman accessory
>chance to summon you instead of a revenant in a level

y/n

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>>168475592
Threadly reminder that Magoichi is trivialised by the cheapest most common item in the game.

Are there more sub missions after you cleared the final mission?

>>168476507

I'm not your friendo, Yūjin

>>168476594
I'm calling it now. they're gonna have a hard time balancing shit for pvp.

>>168476112
>Eh, i'm around 110 and I just beat the Frog.
how?
i didn't even finish the game that high.

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>>168475957
>Shima Sakon for being a huge flying faggot
I concur, I'm still buttmad because you can't get the giant hat and that ruined my hobo samurai build.

God fucking damnit Sakon, I wanted that hat.

>>168476735
Recent patch proves that big nerfs are coming to 2kat and spear.

>>168476635
of course

>>168476262
>>168476385
I'd legit play the fuck out of this. It'd be some kind of miracle to implement but making the clan stuff actually play like little skirmishes would be orgasmic.

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>tfw you get the timing right on the first try
We couldn't finish the level because the shade doors bugged out on us but the dude was a lot of fun to play with.

>>168476757
see
>>168476531

>Like I said, most of my deaths come from playing like an anime character


I play pretty wreckless, doing suicide runs (i.e destroying all of the poison sacks on the centipede level and then killing myself so I can explore the ground area at my own pace), falling in the water in that Umi Bozu level and just all around trying to pull off cool combos.

I didn't even know there was a death counter until a few hours ago.

In terms of difficulty, the only boss to really push my shit in so far was the Ice Queen, I beat most bosses within 2-3 tries.

is it better to wait to postgame to farm stuff like smithing recipes?

>>168476928
>He doesn't know.

>>168476637
I'm not your Yūjin, Anjin

So there's 150, 190, and 320 gear, right?
Based off of the assumption that you have to beat the 320 mission to get 320 gear, does that also apply to the 190 one?

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Four to go!

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Does going from light armor to medium armor mean my dodges won't be good anymore?

>>168477162
it doesn't matter when you farm them

>>168477297
I bet you gib motherfuckers during the dojo tests now, goddamn.

Where can you see the benefits for your proficiencies, by the way?

shout out to the mad dogs that helped me on stream, absolute legends

>>168477410
Proficiency doesn't have anything to do with damage.

Is there a NG+ guide so I can farm more effectively and don't waste cups?

>>168477232

I'm not your Anjin, コンパニオン

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>>168477297
>4 to go
How quaint.

You do know it takes like ten minutes to max them out once you hit NG+, right?

>>168477402
They'll be slightly worse.

However, the difference between A and B weight class isn't as harsh as the difference between B and C, so don't worry about it much.

>>168477552
Does it do anything besides hand out samurai points?

>>168477620
Fuck off Kelley nobody likes you

Where the fuck does "The God of War Looks Down" set drop from? I've only found the feet and I'm not even sure where.

>>168477620
What's the fastest way to grind them?

>>168477552
Isn't there a stat that increase dmg based on proficiency?

>>168473617
does it matter when you beat the 320 mission? like do you beat the 320 mission then craft it right after?

>>168471092
>Shitty story

Haven't played this game yet I'm just looking at the pretty pictures, kind of a shame that the story isn't great, I was hoping for a really weird narrative.

>>168477848
I'm pretty sure the wooden/training weapons in Dojo tests have that bonus.

Either that, or they have the bonus that increases the rate of proficiency gain, but that would be retarded because it's a pain in the dick to get them outside of the dojo missions. And the dojo missions are very short so it's not like you can gain a lot of proficiency in them.

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>TFW I just pissed someone off.

>>168478051
>only 4 reforgeable slots
>quick attack drain
It's shit!

>>168478051
Grind for weapons until you get one with a decent transferable skill, anon.

>>168477848
>>168477960
It just increases the gain, yes. You can get that effect on any weapon.

Where's the best place to use Saisetsu-shin's Sake

>>168478126
I'm talking about Skill A scaling, stop being so triggered kiddo. Also you can overwrite the inherited skill.

Every time I change my fashion around, I leave the blacksmith and look at it in the different lighting and hate it then go back to my old one.

>>168477614
I'm not your コンパニオン, Baka

I finished Nioh and like... I loved it at the start but it falls apart as you go

> You see every non-boss enemy by roughly the 1/3rd mark of the game, and spend the rest just repeatedly fighting the same mobs you know the entire moveset to already
>flaws in the level design really start to show in some of the mid-late levels as well. Room to move is important to a game like this, where a single dodge press throws you 5-10 feet in any direction at will, but they fall back on narrow corridors and cliff-heavy areas too often
>The story is mediocre at best, frustratingly pointless at worst. There's missions where you go out of your way to accomplish literally nothing, and it just feels like they ran out of ideas
>The setting is interesting but areas feel very same-y outside of a couple levels, and the lore given for regions never really varries from "it was a peaceful village then omg yokai!!11!"
>Plus I'm fairly certain, that at some point in development, the game was katanas-only. It's the only thing I can think of to explain the huge katana-focus of all the loot. There's like 15 different gearsets that have bonuses for swords, the kasurigama has 0 for example
>The game's difficulty fars apart less than halfway through, because you've seen everything the enemies have to offer. Yet you still get stronger and unlock new moves and abilities yourself, it just makes the same foes you've been facing even easier. Sure they get better stats but so does the player and it kinda cancels out.
>I unlocked the NG+ this morning, and while it makes loot (slightly) more interesting, I have no desire to keep playing it as it's once again just fighting the same enemies with slight stat increases rather than new moves or options

This game had a lot of potential, and I really dug it going in, but after the first 3rd or so of the game you start to see all the glaring cracks.

>>168478575

Did your shitty bait thread on /v/ already start to get ignored?

Go back

>>168478671
Prove literally any of it wrong.

You can't.

>>168478671
Sorry bro this isn't your hugbox.