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B-25 edition
>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher. War thunder is for faggots just like anime.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>Place to actually discuss the game that isn't simg
https://www.reddit.com/r/warthunder

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs

>Sound Mods:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/b0riss-sound-mod/forum/thread/support-for-sound-mod-in-warthunder-165153
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>>168452407
WAR BLUNDER
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Why don't carrier spawn points have the same AAA cover as airfields do? Historically carriers were practically floating AAA platforms.
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>plaing war blunder
KYS!
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>Play jap 5.3
>In less than 5 min realize that me, the only one left on the ground and 3 planes are all that's left of the team
>Switch to nazi 7.0
>Try to cap and hold a point all by myself despite my calls for help, when I respawn I see the ennemies are already spawncamping

>should have won the war)))))
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>>168453080
>being bad
>not being good
lol!
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first for Triahx to khs
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>>168432536
>four Brit decals
>not a single German decal three different cycles of this
C'mon Gaijin, give us something, even another fucking coast guard symbol.
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>>168453080

>Playing with German tank teams

They're on the same level of braindead as US plane teams, I gave up on those shitters ages ago
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>>168452407
>>Place to actually discuss the game that isn't simg
>https://www.reddit.com/r/warthunder
FUCKING
STOP
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how good is the second i-185?
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>>168456414
>implying it isn't true
kys!!! KYS!!!!!
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>>168458609
a UFO
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Ok, just started playing this game again after about a year and a half or so of being free from the grind.
Did they nerf 50 cals or something? Can't take wings off or start fires without having guns on target for like 3 or more seconds.

also wyvern is FUN
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when
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>>168462136
>more polikarpov papershit
nah
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>>168456414
>reddit's preferred game-mode is Realistic
hmm....
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Fuck Brazilian playerbase
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>>168461764
>my 50 cals dont kill instantly
>mentions a premium glorified british version of the p-47
b8
>>168464051
ethnical cleanser
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When Gaijin said they altered the economy does this mean its easier or harder to get SLs now?
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>>168464775
fuck do you think you dumb goy
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>get in point
>get bombed
epic
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>>168465110
>grive out spawn
>get bodyed by m36
ebin
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8+km in the air, 3 of us against one p-51
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>>168466134

>dying to non-Hellcat US tanks

??
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>dive on someone in my p-38
>they dive to their airfield
how to counter this?
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>>168466925

pull back up and just get your alt up

now he has to reclimb
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>>168467036
now he's camping his airfield

how to counter

tried side climbing, didn't work
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Do you guys like to take the 30mm nose cannon in your 109s or the 20mm?
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>>168467225

if he's camping his airfield he's not going to win the game assuming the ticket disparity isn't in his favor
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>Play a Russian video game
>The only other players around speak only Portuguese and Chinese

awesome
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the fuck is hull break?
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>>168467291
20

>>168468346
It's supposed to make very light vehicles less tanky by not letting them meme via overpen.
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>>168468346
When you hit a vehicle with enough high explosive that the armor shatters. IRL an IS-2 could blow the UFP of a Panther to bits but I don't think it's modeled quite that far in game.
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>>168452528
BORE BLUNDER
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>>168468952
THUNDER BLUNDER
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>>168469032
SHEKEL PLUNDER
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fun thunder c:
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>>168469969
I'm gonna show you something way more fun you fucking whore
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when?
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If you put your client on the work in progress client you get the new tracers
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>>168470893
Fuck off with your minor nation post war rubbish, gib armored cars.
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>>168470893
Fuck off Tony, go back to /simg/ and whine about Ivan some more.
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>Play 4.7 tanks
>Permanently uptiered against 5.7 Tigers
>Play 5.7 tanks
>Permanently uptiered against 6.7 King Tigers
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>>168471158
>he didn't buy premium matchmaking
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when
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>>168471902
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Fill in blank.

Tier 5 Ground Forces is ________.
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>>168473771
Fucked I now have to fight mini tiger 2 and don't have heat yet for my M48.
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>>168473771
Tier 5 Ground Forces is free rp for stock planes because tank shitters cant fly
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>just flank))))) a T34 and T44
>they compliment me for managing to bait them
why cant all slavs be this nice?
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>>168476470
>Sim mouse aim
kys
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>>168473771
tasty
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>>168468738
>>168468942
>tfw HEAT causes hull break
>all the SPAA shitters clubbing the BR2.0 bracket getting BTFO by my Pz.IV's with the shorty 75
I knew my StuG was nasty but now the Panzers are in on the action since at some point in the past they gave them access to the better Type C HEAT.
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>>168479280
>bring out Ho-Ro with HE only
>literally hull break everything other than multi turret landships
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1.67 when
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>>168479280
>>168479375
All now that i expect from this to make it perfect, is a user-input vehicle list and a custom death wreckage, that more of a crushed version of the vehicle
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>>168471158
If you play as Russians you fucking deserve it.
>IS-2 frequently matched up against Tiger H1 due to equal BR
>Tiger can JUST penetrate IS-2 with a clean hit
>IS-2 is literally point and click anywhere to obliterate the Tiger
>IS-2 operator complains when he's tiered against KT's because he can't sealclub and actually has to aim his shots

Any other nation and I feel for you, though. If you're even remotely competent the game will shove you into higher BR brackets to fill matches.
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>>168479375
I thought hull break was only in effect for very specific light vehicles? I know some BR2.0 German tanks can get effective thicknesses above 50mm but if you can just hull break them instead then the Ho-Ro has gone full YOLO.
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>>168480361
Well i can understand his anger. All countries around 1-3 have smaller caliber guns with an equal amount of reload time making it balanced however, with the fact that germany kept the same gun and perfected sloped armor and made the cheeks of the turret so thick(for 2H atleast, the 2P is relatively easier), you would need at least the final shell type (mod1944-230mm pen) to actually kill anything inside from over 500m away, that and due to such high caliber means suffering from reload time(but also means a majority of one hit kills) and germany instead sticks with the low cal88 only really researching advanced ammunition and slight modifications as per the T2P/H stock shells have same/more than a is-2/mod1944 final shell which only gets 207/230mm(pen) with a much higher reload time putting russia at the disadvantage
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>>168480767
I recall all tanks being able to hull break, just that SPAA will hull break 100% of the time with certain shell sizes.
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Does this confirm jap bias?
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>>168480361
Sounds like playing anything American against Germans.
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>>168481536
>its just a jap gepard
>>168481637
>>168481637
except no bs T29
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>>168481536
>Will get hull broken by everything in its tier
???
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>>168481752
T29 is on par with Tiger 2s.
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>>168481836
Not the 2P
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>>168482097
So the tiger 2h.
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>>168482339
Hes a bouncy guy.
The T29
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>>168480776
>both have approximately double the penetration power of their actual target's armour
>both actually have to position cleverly and aim their shots for a pen
>KT has faster reload but IS has far, far more HE filler which can cook ammo anywhere in the target
>Germany finally gets in on Gaijin's bounce-happy meme code
>Russian players feel it's unfair when this is the shit Germany has been dealing with since BR2.7
Keep in mind the KT is a full BR higher and yet only has a reload speed advantage over an IS-2.
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>>168482763
FUCKING DELETE THIS
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>>168482763
plus a actually useful frontal armor, fucking PzIVF2 can pen is-2 ufp
>>168483023
sage
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>Nippons get something from 1980s
>its fucking SPAA
>Everybody chimps out and demand t80 abrams etc
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>>168483306
Suddenly historical mm is important again for shart in marts and slav(e)s now that they would get an advantage from it
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>>168483292
>fucking PzIVF2 can pen is-2 ufp
If he gets the drop on you. Point your hull at him and your UFP has 140-200+ effective thickness and the shell-eating vision block protecting most of the 140 segment. Again, Germans have been dealing with having big, flat UFP's that barely withstand enemy shells since Day 1.
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>Drive Churchill Mk VII
>PzIV H pens my 152mm turret face with APHE at 1000m
>PzIV H has at most 136mm of pen at 10m
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>>168484208
PzIV H has 177mm APCR.
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>>168484208
Churchills seem to have armour modifiers. I can pen black prince 152mm plates with russian 85mm guns as well
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>>168452407
Does anyone have the tumblr of the guy who was drawing planefu's?
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>>168484743
i found one of his images
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>>168485051
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>>168484649
Yeah and the kill cam, which shows which round was fired, was indeed an APHE round
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>>168485134
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>>168485282
>trusting the kill cam
Someone dump the .webms
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NouZB6QuCys
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>>168485380
Even at 1000m the APCR doesn't have the pen
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>>168485051
>>168485295

saved
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>>168485614
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>>168485051
God damn this isn't what I wanted.
But it's what I want now...
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CHIMP
H
I
M
P

OUT
U
T
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>>168485506
how can we trust that it really was the turret face and not a hit to the roof that you're trying to covre up?
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>come back after three months
>plant a 152mm Shillelagh straight into the side of a Leopard 1
>kills the commander and loader
>he turns around and one shots me

Hey, I suddenly remember why I stopped playing.
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>>168486413
kv-2 has big gun.jpg
just search up living vehicles desu
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>>168483306
Nigga all I want is the Sgt York or PIVADS or some other SPAA with radar like everyone but claps and honorary claps get.
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>>168483306
Just give the M163 some DU APDS ammo and I'll be happy
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I just got a 75% off discount for the premium Jagdpanther. I haven't ever really played ground forces very much.

Should I get it?
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>>168487887
Jagdpanthers are good, buy it if you want to grind the German tree.
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>>168488000
well shit
praise jagdpanther
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>playing Germany
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>>168488000
all fun n games until you see someone with heat or apds
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>>168479280
>Fw 190 attempts to strafe my M16
>cut his wing off
>he hits ground 10 meters behind me
>killed by hull break
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>>168489234
>watch replay
>he got kill credit for that
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>>168488904
or till t54 / is3 just lobs their aphe through your frontal armor
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>>168487307
aaaaaand im done with 4chan for tonight

possibly for the entire week
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>>168489548
>translated
>FOR STALIN!
>cum inside and breed half human-tank babys for stalin
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P-51 C FUCKING WHEN???
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The T29 is exactly where it needs to be in BR rating

This is the truth
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>>168489453
bruh everything can go through a Jagdpanthers front armour
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Did they change tracers? Now when I see a wirbel shooting it looks like I'm in star wars
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>>168452407
>War thunder is for faggots just like anime.
wait what
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Can someone with a prem account show me if the camo condition slider actually does something?
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When??

It's was build.
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>>168492582
It used to be you could make your tank look like it was burnt out but that got abused, not sure how bad it makes it at lowest now.
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>>168492803
No, that was the massive decal size. You'd get a club decal or 8 ball decal, blow it up to maximum size and plaster your tank all over with them. That's why decal size got nerfed.

He's talking about camo quality, the ability to make your tank either look like it's a rustbucket that's been out in wind and rain for a year or look like it's fresh out of the factory
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>>168492701
>It's was build
It had a wind tunnel test model, a wooden mock-up and an unpowered prototype made. The plane itself was never fully built.
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>>168491324
+1 GE
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>>168492962
>It had a wind tunnel test mode
by gaijin standards its good enough
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>>168493424
If it were russian maybe
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>>168493629
I mean, you're so wrong it isn't even good bait
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when
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>>168493938
Already in game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNDOocAR0S0
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>try out the D9 at the new BR
>virtually no Griffon Shitterfires

Wtf I love German tier IV now
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>>168495115

>Fly out my F7F because I haven't in awhile
>Meteors R2D2s and 229s 24/7
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>Consistently fighting T54s and IS3s, with my highest BR tank being an M46
I'm starting to feel this isn't worth it anymore. I know the M47 will be more of the same, but is the M48/M60 any good?

If not, I'm probably going to suffer in the Japs for a while, and then maybe use my Leopard to unlock the KTs and finally experience the meme.
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>>168496153
No, you'll just get shit on by ZSU-57s while you grind past two useless APCRs.
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>>168496153
If you already can't deal with the m46 don't try the japs where you have to fight t44s and centurions with the m4a3...
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>>168496153
>Playing anything but Germans or Russians in GF
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>>168496898
>being bad with other nations
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I still play WoWP
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>>168496898
I wanted to like the brits, but solid shot is trash and I hate the no-reverse speed.
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>>168496937
Americans have two good tanks. M18 and T29
Brit tanks are all shit.
Japs tanks are a waste of time since you could just play germans.
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>>168497098
i like japs, they're pretty good in mid tier and fun once u get type 60
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>>168496614
I'm working towards the bulldog, which I think is great. The struggle is with the STA.
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>>168497043
Don't lie to me, you only do it for the planes gaijin won't add.
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>>168497264
Of course, what other reason would I have?
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>>168497173
Fucking japs, I swear to god 90% of the time I am sniped by some asshole from across the map it's a jap tank. And when they're close, they just don't die!
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wheres the tail hook setting ? or whats default
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>>168492962
>unpowered prototype made
so same as Ho 229, which used placeholder engines.
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>>168496153
M60 only, because it has stock shell that can actually pen. Gaijin could not make stock shell completely worthless, because weaker shell was never made for the gun.
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>>168497545
It auto-deploys with your gear if you're near a carrier.
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>>168497673
not always
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>>168497772
Source your claim. If you get close enough to the carrier with your gear down your hook will deploy.
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>when your whole team is dead after three minutes and you stand there getting gangraped by russkies
I also had some boosters activated.
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BOMERPILOTS ARE SUBHUMAN SCUM AND SHOULD BE SHOT.

Fuck this game, of course your P8 can take out a fighter in a head on with a couple of shots, thats a given, especially if its in the middle of a cloud and your gunners have xray vision. Fuck this fucking game.

I sure do love not daring to enter any kind of dogfight or risk climbing, because the bombers will just dive anyway and end the game in a few minutes. FUCK!
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>>168498158
git gud
I actually had Catalina bots not dying from J7W salvos yesterday
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They always pick some shit questions, panzerwerfer answer is probably a joke
>https://warthunder.com/en/news/4516-development-we-answer-your-questions-en/
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>>168498229
Hard to do any "git gud" when there is no fucking time in a game to actually try to maneuver! If your real lucky you might get a kill when you follow that B17-Do17-any russian magic bomber down. With a red plane with a shot up engine.

Or choose to not follow down, have a yellow plane cause the bombers somehow magically can hit a plane a mile away while the plane is turning and changing speeds. And all you get for your effort is a divebombing strategic bomber that if your lucky gets you an assist. Fuck this fucking game.
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>B7A2
>universal ammo
>on average head-on kill 2 and win
This is a good plane
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>>168498158
>P8
My what?
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>>168498725
You know what the fuck i mean bomberautist.
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>>168498832
Maybe you should learn to shoot at engines? It's not like they can dodge.
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>>168498324
>Pick shit questions
>90% of them answered with "No fuck off tovarish)))" anyway

Nice.
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>>168498913
Mayby you should learn not to ruin a game with 3min matches where the main strategy has become divebombing strat-bombers?
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>this triggers wtg
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I bought the Hellcat mkII with a 75% discount, did I fuck up?
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>this triggers the shills
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>>168500584
why?
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>>168500686
I get killed by these things all the time in GF, so I guess its a good buy.
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>>168492962
It was build you nigger.
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Just unlocked the 5.0 lineup before he BR change, came back from uni a few days ago and as expected the D-5T is 5.3.. Piece of shit has dragged me into more 6.3 games then ever, my KV-2 and SU-152 bounce all the tigers and the module grind is pretty fucking slow.. When will they revert the BR changes for the T34-85s? Ridiculous.

Any help?
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>>168503156
Can add that I also bounce a shitload with the 85mm aswell
>>
>4 kills in B7A2 (got free talisman)
>lose
>>
Does Gaijin even bother with balancing the low tiers? The Spitfire mkI is the most disgustingly OP vehicle I've had the pleasure of playing, and that is coming from someone that played the WoT tier 5 KV.
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>>168504936
It's a good thing planes have the freedom to utilize other tactics other than camp a corner then.
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>>168504936
pre-1.59 Hurricane Mk.IIB was outright crazy
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>mfw i remember both P47Ds are 3.0 in arcade
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What are the best tanks to go fast?
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>>168506543
BT-5/7
M18
Pz II H
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>>168503256
Try getting good
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>>168506742
>facing Tiger 2s, Ferdis and Jagdtiger
>not the slightest chance of penning
>"Git gud"
Were you one of the people who screamed "REEEEEEE T34-85 TOO OP!!!! RAISE BR REEEE"?
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>>168507098
>Jagdtiger
Meant Jagdpanther
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>>168507098
you can do circles around ferdinand while in reverse, how the fuck ppl have problem killing it
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>Gayjob will never fucking fix the spitfire flight model
>They'll always be best prop ever UFOs
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>>168507236
Yeah if you manage to flank it, not when you're on a large sniping map and they sit hull down the entire match and snipe
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>>168507250
It's balanced me lad XD
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>>168507346
time to git gud))))))
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>>168507938
Oh fuck off mate
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>>168507236
>not being able to flank on any map
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>>168508017
to be honest this was done when ferdinand was 7.0
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>>168508152
Yeah sure.. Explains the K/D
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Su-9 confirmed possible
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>>168508203
back in day it didnt catch fire when hit by bb gun or get penned by is4m easily
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>>168508267
Shouldn't slightly angle it defect the IS shells?
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>>168508431
ye pretty, but then u exposed ur cheeck
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>>168508503
What cheeks? Angling a bit can't hurt, that 80mm could easily become 150+
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>>168508601
that straight ass corner there
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>>168508929
Oh that, wow
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BL-10 on the ISU-152 when?
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>>168487307
>>168489662
akúrva O:O
>>
slavaboos go and stay go
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what am i in for ?
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>>168512291
Fun until allied whinybabies cry for it's nerf. Also enjoy the repair cost.
>>
Is there a way to send feedback to the devs without having to deal with the muppets on the forums?
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>>168495115
Isn't the elevator broken?
>>
Is anyone else getting clubbed hard by German shitters in their T34-85 with new new BR? Fucking hate it, just free meat for the germans at 5.7 and up
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>Is anyone else getting clubbed hard by German shitters in their T34-85 with new new BR? Fucking hate it, just free meat for the germans at 5.7 and up
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>>168513175
>broken
BALANCED )))))))
>>
>>168513440
Autismo is that you again?
>>
>>168513341
>rus crying about anything
Try driving a comet and come back.
>>
>>168513341
Does the IS-1 help? The KV-2 is absolutely useless against angled Tigers and Panthers, SU-152 does a lot better somehow. Not going for the ISU-122 yet
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>>168513570
Apart from the nuke APHE, the armor and gun are better than the D-5T
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>>168513686
>comet
>better armor
>even penetrating a t34 with something else than the sabot that does none damage.

You make a hole(mayby) in anything you meet in a comet and just end up getting oneshotted back.
>>
http://warthunder.com/en/news/4515-development-centurion-mk-i-a-tank-for-a-new-era-en/
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>>168513942
Yeah I guess. Don't know what BR it should be at, quit the brits after the Firefly flop
>>
>>168514038
>no 20mm
dropped
>>
Scrub here, how can I "mark" an enemy in RB?
Like, how can I make the red arrows appear over enemies for my teammates? By shooting at them? Or is there another method, since shooting gives away my position.
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>>168514172
Use your MG or just point it out on the map?
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>months ago
>unlock 190 D9
>try to use it
>get shit on
>m-maybe the D12 is better
>unlock it
>get shit on
>give up
>try to use the Doras again after BR changes
>get shit on
I don't understand
are these planes cursed or something?
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i think some body is using tracer belts
>>
I was thinking about replaying this game after like 4 years of not playing.

What's this bore blunder meme?

Is it worth playing again, or is it still pay2win
>>
>>168515038
At first you're gonna think "Wow, this isn't a forced P2P game!" but once you reach tier 4/late tier 3, you're gonna realize you need to cough up money to survive the grind. And I don't even want to mention tier 5...
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>>168514549
No they just have to fight against magic ufofires.
The Doras are good planes but against broken Shitfire spam they have no chance.
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>shilka in sim
>10th battle since the last sight of an enemy jet
>my dick is getting sore
>>
the new tracers are really nice
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>>168515982
You're really nice anon~
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>>168516097
Kys weeb trash
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SU-203 when?
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>>168508249
>>168514549

https://warthunder.com/en/news/4516-development-we-answer-your-questions-en/

>Do you plan to add fighters of the 6.0-6.3 BRs for the USSR and Germany? At the moment, these nations experience certain difficulties against allied teams using Gryphon 22/24s and Bearcats, since the above mentioned fighters at the BRs 6.0-6.3 are superior to the Soviet and German aircraft at the 5.7-6.0.

Why do people STILL want postwar crap (that barely had a service history) and concept axis vehicles that never existed just because they DONT like the performance of their 5.0 planes? Can't we get past the fascination of some "literal what" post war Brit/Burger plane and fugly BlomVoss concept prop/jet?

Like seriously? What else is there to add, unless you want to go full World of Warplanes!?

Listen. Just make the D-series P51s and P-47M&Ns br go up to 5.0-5.7, while keeping the 109Gs 10+, Ks, and 190 Doras stay at the same br AND SOLIDIFY 5.0 battle rating as the main tier 4 match up for all players. Just kick everything out that's 6.0 into it's own stupid postwar tier

Wouldn't it be better if P-51Ds, P47Ns and Spitfire LFs solely fought against 190 Doras, Do 335s and 109Gs? Fuck, even add the P-38 LO to 5.0 and if there's a vacuum at 4.0 America (even thought there wouldn't) then tell Gaijin to add the P51C and razorback P47 like >>168490712 is saying

They should just dump all the Griffin Spits, Tempests,Bearcats, the La9, the one or two Yaks and premium tier 4 slav stuff and early era jets into it own stupid tier.
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Panzer IV mit Schmalturm when?
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>>168505475
Even with the current BR the Hurricane mkI is pretty OP.
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>>168515982
I agree
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>let us now steal bikes comrade))))))
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>>168516576
it's not matter of BR, but pre-1.59 damage model, where planes would go down much fewer hits than they do now. 12 x 7.7 mm combined with agility of Zero made it literal point&click machine.
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>>168516453
Is there a version with a longer barrel? That looks inaccurate as shit
>>
>>168516508
>Post war early jet tier 4.5-5 (if Gaijin were to add a "tier 6")

>America:
Bearcats
F7F1-3
B-29
AD-2
P-80jet

>Germany:
Tempest premium
Me262 As
He-162
Ho229
Arados bombers
Whatever blomvoss shit gaijin wants to add later on

>Russia:
La9
La11 premium
Yak vk 107
Yak9p/UT
Su-6
IL-10 46
A Tu2
Early Yak jets
The first Mig9

>Britain
Griffin Spitfires
Wyvern
Tempests and SeaFury
Brigand
Meteor mk3
Whatever else they want to add

>Japan:
I don't know, you can figure it out
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>Centurion Mk.1
about fucking time!
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>>168517435
it's a howitzer. 203 mm field guns are massive
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>>168517653
It's without the 20mm coaxial though
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>>168517830
when?
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>>168517826
Yeah but it looks pretty inaccurate with that barrel. I'd rather have the BL-10 gun
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>>168517532
why do they need their own tier? this is essentially what matchmaking looks like already
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>>168517826
>>
>>168487305
Because you play cheesy vehicles and get annoyed that your shot placement stinks
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>>168517882
never, crew didnt like it(((((
next patch, premium
>>
>>168517882
>misaligned with maingun
>30 rounds magazine
>penetration of Hispano
>in late T4
can I have top mounted .50 instead?
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>>168518003
>>168517435

It was armed with the B-4 howitzer (sometimes translated to M-4 Mortar), which was a rather short howitzer.
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>>168518003
another 203 mm long range
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>>168518721
>HE
>War Thunder
>>
>>168518721
Yeah I thought so

>>168518801
Is this a new Flakbus meme?
>>
do we know what's going to be the theme of 1.67?
>>
>>168517435
accuracy isnt only determined by the barrel lengh though
>>
>>168516508
Tip: Going world of warplanes with plane variety is not a bad thing.
>>
>>168520674
Botes?
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>>168520674
Tier IV/V grindholes and no effective BR fixes for tanks and planes that have real (not pissing moans like Panther2/Hellcat) problems.
>>
>People are still playing Hellcat M18 in tier 5

Why...?
>>
>>168521896
1. its effective, unless you're retarded
2. war bond requirement
>>
>Hesh into t44 hull
>Bounce

sure, why not
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I'm thinking about getting the SU-122P to power grind through the slavs tier 4 TD line, and then use it to meme my way to the SU-122-54

Good or bad idea? The ISU-122 seems like pure shit
>>
>>168524678
What does the SU-122P have that the ISU-122 doesn't have, and make it not suck?
>>
>>168524678
don't
both T-44-122 and T-34-100 are way better choices
>>168524847
it's not an ISU
still bad, just not as bad
>>
>>168524847
Mobility, test drove the ISU-22 before the update(still can for some reason) and the mobility is just painful. The number one thing I do is stick out & in again, and that traverse won't allow me to. Sure I'll loose 15mm of armor and the MG, but the mobility of the 122P is golden in comparison

>>168525407
Hm, the T34-100 is 6.7 though.. Is the T44-122 better? The reload seems pretty bad, but if it's better then I can defiantly take it
>>
>>168524847
Lower profile, better slope. Slightly better mobility.
>>
>>168525987
Yeah that's what I had in mind, the T44-122 seems tempting though.. I don't know though, the reload is 1/3 faster
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>Mission maker wager
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>>168525493
>>168525987
It's still a soviet tank destroyer and that means fuck long reloads and extremely bad gun depression. On any map with any sloping terrain at all it's worthless, and on city maps that long reload makes it unacceptable for brawling. The only way to succeed with it, if you enemies aren't complete tards, is to choose a busy street and camp it.

Also the higher BR means it will face KTs all day every day.
>>
>>168526310
>Also the higher BR means it will face KTs all day every day.
Yeah I know, was planning on putting it along with the T44, IS-2' 44 and ZSU-37
>>
Any reason the Ta-Se keeps getting ignored? I swear I take this thing out and get ignored the entire match until someone figures out why their planes are turning into lawndarts.
>>
If you want to have some fun in WT:
Get into AB, preferably in a BR with as many vehicles on the list of "Lightly armored vehicles that should be easy to destroy" from last week, get some kills you you can either spawn in a bomber or support fighter, then just kamikaze into those tanks over and over. No deaths are added and you get a bunch of kills

Fucking hilarious
>>
>>168528730
Actually all you need is some points, so you can just get some assists, cap points or shoot down airplanes
>>
>>168528730
>have some fun in WT
became very suspicious here
>Get into AB
stopped reading
>>
>>168521896
because if your armor is shit and, unless you drive M60, you can't do shit with frontal shots anyway, might as well use something that gives you reasonable chance to flank
>>
>>168528974
Fine then, but you're missing out!
Possible in RB, but then you loose SP and get deaths added, here there's no drawbacks at all
>>
>>168526291
>doing wagers other than GE ones
why?
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>>168528730
Flyouts, kills and deaths in killstreak planes are added to your service record if you own such plane
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>>168529401
In AB? Meh doesn't matter, don't have any of the planes anyway
>>
>>168529167
It's been literal months since I've gotten a Ge wager. Like before the Christmas sale.
>>
>>168529325
Godzilla shit gets over the top sometimes
>>
Did they remove the battle tasks or is it just a bug on my side that the dev team is already working on?
>>
>>168529538
fuck, likewise
bet it's because I started actually using them and doing well
>>
>>168529823
Hm, I think they mentioned in the latest update discussion that it was accidentally removed.

So much shit broke with the first update this week..
>>
>>168529823
it's a bug, that suposely happens with 32 bit systems
still on XP?
>>
>>168530439
No, 64bit
>>168529953
Yeah I also can't watch replays and login into gaijin store, really nice work
>>
>gun's damaged
>enemy's charging at me
>I'm going to die anyway, I'll take my chances
>fire before my enemy does
>blow up
>get back at hangar
>tank's locked
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>>168531884
git gud feg haha
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Ground Borces
>>
What's the best SPAA, and I emphasize "AA", to put in my 5.7 german lineup? Wirbelwind or Ostwind?
>>
>>168534941
I'd say Ostwind since you can actually destroy barrels and tracks with it.
>>
>>168534941

ostwind if you're good at aiming
>>
>>168534941
Yeah I'd also say Ostwind. Wirbelwind has a 5+ sec reload and it empties the belts quick as hell with those quad-cannons, useless for long range engagement
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Now that the 508s and vg channel are dead, how do I find people to play with?
>>
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>drop full payload onto enemy base after patch
>1488 SLs for base damage
>>
>>168535404
I'm totally not good at aiming, but I'll learn I suppose.
>>
>>168535776
Slickbee's discord channel
>>
>3 kills in my BF109k4
>914 RP

Its like fucking Gaijoob wants us to go premium or blow eagles on parts on something after this update
>>
>>168536970
Aren't airplanes supposed to be the meme vehicles in the game that get literal SHITLOADS of RP?
>>
>>168537519

Not anymore.

They've also reduced by 30% amount of SLs you get for bombing bases as well.
>>
>>168538136
Damn... WT used to be a fun game that was easy to grind(Or?), non-OP premiums and not so "You need to pay to have access to this!"(Referring to changing your name, custom battles with user made missions etc)
>>
>>168538779
kinda, the grind was per tier

it was a bit longer, but you'd unlock all the planes in a tier at once. pretty damn satisfying.
>>
>>168535659
>tfw you can't fire alternating pairs while the other pair reloads like the actual Flakvierlings
>firing all four guns at once was for emergencies only
>>
>>168539353
>closed beta tanks had 10x faster research and 10x cheaper purchases
>legitimately fun as fuck and didn't feel grindy
>kept fucking around with the Pz.IIC not because I was grinding but because it was legit fun
>anything past Tier 1 is grindy as fuck now
>feel bad for clubbing the BR2.3 bracket with 75mm HEAT
>drop back to BR1.3 to ace some holes in my lineup and practice with the more fragile Pz.38 and Pz.IV models
>promptly get clubbed by maximum sanic Burger and Britbong reserve tanks with autoloading railguns

It really is a love/hate relationship with this game.
>>
>>168535776
What happened?
>>
>>168540478
So you're complaining that Germans don't get to club every single br
>>
>>168540959
No I'm complaining that the balance is so poor that it's "club or be clubbed". I'd rather equal footing. Pz.IV E requires at least some tactical thinking in the 2.3 bracket but the StuG is maximum YOLO
>>
>>168540478
>tfw it took me the same time to get to the 105 KT and spade both KT (H) and KT (P) and Jagdpanther as getting the Panther F and Panther 2
REMEMBER
>IS
>OF
>FASTER
>NOW
>))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
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bbbbzzzzzzzzzz
*rolls like its flying through treacle
bbbbzzzzzzzz
*control surfaces locks up past 600kmh at low altitudes
bbbzzzzzzzzzzz
*cannons runs out of ammo leaving the pilot with a pitiful 2 machine guns
bbbzzzzzzzzz
*thick bars in cockpit obstructs pilot's views
>>
>>168542073
>*thick bars in cockpit obstructs pilot's views
That was a complete nonissue IRL given that you can, dunno, move your fucking head?
>>
Holy shit teeb pilots are fucking retarded
>fly out d-13
>see a tempest
>dive on him
>only defensive move he knows is moving up to meet in a headon
>evade it
>he tries prophanging
>nuke him with warcrimegeschoss
>another spitfire tries fucking prophanging for a kilometer, no fucking joke
>nuke him while he's stalled out completely stationary
>>
>>168542794
>only defensive move he knows is moving up to meet in a headon
Maybe he was using mouse controls?

Also the Hellcat mkII is a murder machine at 400 meters. Does the P47 play like that too? If that's the case I might drop the kraut line in favor of murica.
>>
>>168543179
P47 isn't for low alt dog fights
>>
>>168543326
I obviously meant to type 4000. The Hellcat is utter shit at low altitudes.
>>
>>168540541
MODS branded JG508 as a hacker squadron and disbanded the group
>>
>>168542629
>meanwhile in Ground Forces
>all the T-34 and all the ass cramped tanks just work flawlessy and drive like cars
>IRL the crew could barely fit inside
>>
>>168543886
Superior small size crewmen tovarish )))))
>>
>>168543886
Wasn't the t-34 not particularly more cramped than most tanks of its time other than the sherman?
>>
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>>168543807
False?
>>
>>168543540
7000 is the jugs best alt.
>>
>>168544316
>88 members
gon get banned
>>
>>168540478
>x2 daily bonus gone
>x5 weekend bonus gone

)))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>168545178
>tfw began playing too late to experience the generosity
:(
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>>168542073
neat, I've touched that plane
>>
>>168544201
Judge yourself:

>T-34-85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nem_Zc51ksg

>Panther
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB-Rt0GRipo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZhJl7cHs78
>>
>>168545843
I can see that you're a dork even through that filter. Congrats I guess.
>>
>>168542794
>only defensive move he knows is moving up to meet in a headon

as opposed to giving away free angles without a fight?
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>Tiger E is now 5.7
>Tiger E also now gets a round with 163g of explosive

Let the seal clubbing commence
>>
>>168547207
the round is from the 88 flak truck
>>
>>168546228
He literally says that a sherman and a t-34 tanker didn't understood how uncomfortable it was inside the panther at the end of the video about the panther.
>>
>puts on 150sl and rp booster
>kursk vs leos and gookleos
yeah no guys is not rigged at all!!!)))))))
>>
>>168544201
Other tanks were cramped but the T-34's turret was just silly
>gunner squashed between gun breech and turret wall, anyone but manlets had metal pushing in on both sides
>traverse operated by reaching across your chest with right hand
>elevation wheel in your lap where you'd constantly bash your knees with the handle
>loader even more cramped
>machine gun on your chest
>have to somehow get torso under the MG to reach ammo cases on compartment floor
>loader could literally get a broken/dislocated arm from the recoiling breech if he wasn't careful

The T-34-85 got a bigger turret (for the gun, fuck the crews!) that had a bit more space and was cramped in a way you'd expect instead of "no fucking way does a person fit there"
>>
>>168548123
The T34/76 had a gunner? I thought it had just commander, driver, radioman and loader.
>>
>decide to play after a break of a few months
>fly out P-47D
>max uptier hokkaido
>four man squad of PS4BR on our team
>four bombers
>don't even get a kill before getting shot down by a prophanging spitfire in a 1v7
fuck this dumb game
>>
What's the best 5.3 BR 109? G-10 and G-14 have pretty camo but I don't know anything besides that.
>>
>>168548989
G-10 and K-4, I meant to say.
>>
>mfw I'm a naziboo
>mfw I play my indestructible Jagdpanzerkampfwagengeschütz XVI Tigerpanther
>mfw I nuke a slav tin can every two seconds
>mfw I get half a million spawn points from 76 and 85mm guns bouncing
>mfw after 88 kills a Centurion gets an APDS hurled into my turret front which turns the gunner yellow
>mfw I bail out in rage
>mfw I board my Fonckelschmidtkers & Voss 14 and climb to space
>mfw I dive down on the teeb and instantly vaporize him using my GAU-8 predecessor
>mfw I get intercepted by a spitfire
>mfw I dodge using my 1945°/sec roll rate
>mfw I climb to space and dive on him again
>mfw I vaporize the teeb in a millisecond using my nukengeschoss shells made by slavic POW slaves
>mfw I strafe a Jewish ghetto on the way home
>mfw I complain on the forums about how overpowered teebs are while eating bits of Mein Kampf with milk
>mfw I know the Führer is smiling upon me
>>
>168549936

(You)
>>
>168549936
>mfw I'm a teaboo
>mfw I don't play tanks because they need skill
>mfw Wyvern can nuke nazi tin can every second
>mfw get 19450000000 spawn points from hits and assists with Hispanos when the guy who capped all the points and got 10 kills has about 1000 points
>mfw Wirbelwing scratches my wing and sparks
>damn historical inaccuracy and German bias
>mfw bail out in rage
>mfw board my Spitfire Mk242 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>mfw OPfire nerfed to 6.7 and I can no longer see Bf-109s
>damn ruski bias
>I get intercepted by Fw-190
>dodge using my 1945°/sec turn rate
>mfw climb to space and dive on him
>mfw vaporize nazi in a millisecond
>mfw strafe American convoy on way home
>complain on forum on how overpowered nazis are
>mfw Churchill did nothing wrong
>>
>>168550546
>G-10 and K-4, I meant to say.
>>>
> Anonymous 02/16/17(Thu)19:56:38 No.168549936 ▶
>File: Naziboo's world (2016_12_(...).gif (2.94 MB, 460x418)
>>mfw I'm a naziboo
>>mfw I play my indestructible Jagdpanzerkampfwagengeschütz XVI Tigerpanther
>>mfw I nuke a slav tin can every two seconds
>>mfw I get half a million spawn points from 76 and 85mm guns bouncing
>>mfw after 88 kills a Centurion gets an APDS hurled into my turret front which turns the gunner yellow
>>mfw I bail out in rage
>>mfw I board my Fonckelschmidtkers & Voss 14 and climb to space
>>mfw I dive down on the teeb and instantly vaporize him using my GAU-8 predecessor
>>mfw I get intercepted by a spitfire
>>mfw I dodge using my 1945°/sec roll rate
>>mfw I climb to space and dive on him again
>>mfw I vaporize the teeb in a millisecond using my nukengeschoss shells made by slavic POW slaves
>>mfw I strafe a Jewish ghetto on the way home
>>mfw I complain on the forums about how overpowered teebs are while eating bits of Mein Kampf with milk
>>mfw I know the Führer is smiling upon me
>>>
> Anonymous 02/16/17(Thu)20:01:02 No.168550325 ▶
>>168549936
>(You)
>>>
> Anonymous 02/16/17(Thu)20:03:50 No.168550546 ▶
>>168549936
>>mfw I'm a teaboo
>>mfw I don't play tanks because they need skill
>>mfw Wyvern can nuke nazi tin can every second
>>mfw get 19450000000 spawn points from hits and assists with Hispanos when the guy who capped all the points and got 10 kills has about 1000 points
>>mfw Wirbelwing scratches my wing and sparks
>>damn historical inaccuracy and German bias
>>mfw bail out in rage
>>mfw board my Spitfire Mk242 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>mfw OPfire nerfed to 6.7 and I can no longer see Bf-109s
>>damn ruski bias
>>I get intercepted by Fw-190
>>dodge using my 1945°/sec turn rate
>>mfw climb to space and dive on him
>>mfw vaporize nazi in a millisecond
>>mfw strafe American convoy on way home
>>complain on forum on how overpowered nazis are
>>mfw Churchill did nothing wrong
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>168550546

>>mfw strafe American convoy on way home

Very well done anon

Still no (You) because

>Tanks
>Needing skill
>>
>>168550857
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
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>>168548461
Yes the commander pulled double duty and I refer to him as the gunner because that would have been his priority in combat.

>>168546228
>the night and day difference between an early 34's turret and the bigger 85
>every video on YT is of the 85 because fuck trying to fit a camera inside the early turret
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>>168550805
>strafe an American convoy on the way home
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you can't even play high tier tanks now without fighting leopards its like bongs only fight nazis and gooks at that tier now
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>>168552270
>tfw this made my M48 grind somewhat bearable because it meant my APHE actually did something
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>>168552270
>tfw type 62
>just high enough to meet leos
>just the right BR where you can't always load your APHE because you might run into a Bongbunker
>heat-fs bounce )))))))))))

If you want to waste SL, play this tank for a week in SB/RB.
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redpill me on the p63s

are they any good?
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>>168555496
>being shit
>not being good
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>>168555972
They're good if you want to hunt bombers or any multi-engine plane. I wouldn't use them versus fighters.
>>
>>168555972
the p-39 is more fun
>>
Is the Premium Tiger 2 worth the $40 it costs?
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When?
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>>168557474
What is that abomination?
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>>168556206
>I wouldn't use them versus fighters
Why the fuck not? You can literally spam them for that one lucky hit that obliterates a wing/tail
>>
Who here /postingwhilesideclimbing/
>>
>SuperHellcat
>Fire 90mm APCBC shell into the side of a T-44, into the engine compartment, from 50mm away
>Blackholes my round
)))
>>
>>168557832
I guess so, i just really hate how the p-63 flies, hard to line up a shot on a fighter since it's so floaty. Multi-engined planes are just far easier targets with it.
>>
>playing us on wake island
>team has 4 bombers
>im the last fighter with 5 n1ks on my tail
>lead their whole team in a dive for a minute
>j out just as they start taking potshots from 1km
>they say they'll report me
>b29s bomb their carrier and we win
>>
Why do the yankees get a shitton of BR9 jets while the krauts get just one?
>>
>>168560324
Maybe they shouldn't have lost the war
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>>168560405
Okay, why do the yankees get shittons of BR9 jets and any faction that isn't the yankees gets 3 tops?
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>>168532880
KEK, I thought only world of tanks had that kind of physics
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>Tanks that were shit IRL are good in WT
>Tanks that were good IRL are shit in WT
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>>168560602
>Yankees
>not making a shitton of x
they made more shermans than the ussr made t-34s.
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>>168557775
the real T-34-100
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>>168562464
dont forget the T-34-122))))))))
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>>168562337
How is it balanced though?
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>>168562464
Is that an arab mod? I love the way middle eastern countries would pimp out old tanks by just slapping a huge gun on it.
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>>168563593
yep, many interesting sherman ones
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>>168562782
About the same was as 5.7-6.7 germany, not at all.
kill one and more will arise.
>>
>>168564703
Will WG ever do something about it?
>>
>>168564875
They will not lighten a tree they might add more planes/tanks to ones that have few such as a T29Ex might become part of the main U.S. tree to fill the 6.7 gap.
>>
>>168565441
I mean, about the disparity of high BR jets.
>>
>>168565762
And I'm talking about everything including that the only hope it to add more for trees that have few.
>>
>>168566424
What would happen to premium vehicle owners if said vehicles were to become part of the regular tree? Also I seriously hope they won't add any of the stupid shit designed by B&V.
>>
>>168566581
They would not remove the premium version just add a variant either early or late to the main tree.

What jets are available that fit the tech cut off for Japan, Germany, and UK? Most that I know of can use missiles.
>>
1.67 when
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PISS
>>
>playing reserve because lol never played burger tanks
>team gets obliterated within minutes
>still manage to win a 3 v 10 game
>>
>>168566581
They remove the premium variant from the shop but let people who own it keep it.
Then they make a separate one without the premium benefits.
>>
>tiger 2 ufp cant even be reliably penned by an l7 with hesh or apds
>naziboos CONTINUE to defend this
>>
>>168571495
>I shoot dead center in the cannon and can't kill any crew
>I also probably sit with my flank facing them, because I expect my treads to keep warcrime rounds from penetrating my armor
>Also I'm gay

Holy shit anon, quit being a faggot
>>
>>168571907
>the hesh round has a 50/50 chance of penning or just exploding and doing no damage because of some shitty armor modifier
>apds round doesn't pen at all if its even slightly angled
*defends this*
>>
>>168571495
>timetravel isnt enough handholding

WEW

L
A
D
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>>168562149
>mfw getting the Firefly
What a fucking travesty
>>
>tfw can no longer tell which nation has the best 5.7 lineup
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>>168574843
>Spend time to flank and get the advantage on the enemy
>Fire at the side of a Tiger or Panther
>Ammo doesn't detonate
>Solid Shot post pen only damages loader or commander, maybe partially damages the turret drives
>Enemy has already turned to you and taken aim by the time your next round loads
>Have to retreat or die
>>
>sunset map with the new tracers
holy shit this looks good
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>>168575140
Slavs.
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>>168575509
>Kursk with gepards as ai
Fucking starwars
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>>168575743
Naval maps are cool too because the tracers reflect on the water.
>>
>>168575140
Germany.
TWO tigers, panther, some other shit you'll never end up using.
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these tracers are neat
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>>168563593
I would love to see it in American Tank Destroyer line. It would fit template so nicely
>turret
>barely any armor
>punchy as fuck gun
Also this tank holds world's record on longest range tank kill - 16 km.
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>>168577517
How? Was it firing at a town and hit a tank by chance?
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>>168562464
In-game T-34-100 is based on Soviet prototype model tho.
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>>168579021
Right. But that thing didn't work.
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>>168579225
Neither did Panther II
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>>168571495
So don't shoot the ufp, idiot! Gaijin's code has a hard-on for bouncing shells off angled armour regardless of penetration stats and the KT is one of the few German tanks that gets to enjoy it. Shoot him right in the mantlet or command cupola to bounce shells through the turret roof. Yes you actually have to aim to hit either of those. Or flank him and put a round through his side, Tigers are NOT maneuverable.

>meanwhile Slav KV and IS tanks used to be regularly under-tiered to the point you literally couldn't hurt them with a side or rear shot unless you took two minutes to repeatedly set fire to his engine and exhaust his FPE, leaving you exposed to his gun and his friends the whole time.
>>
>>168579702
But we were comparing it to the Egyptian T-34/100 which did work.
>>
>>168575170
So use explosive rounds and aim a little more carefully to avoid the improvised armour and bounce points
>people still use APCR to compensate for their shit aim and poor rangefinding
>"waahh solid shot does no damage"
>>
>>168580072
Are you retarded?
>>
>>168580024
>it did work
>Egypt got roflstomped in the Six Day War by Shermans with equally silly giant guns, but the Sherman chassis could actually support it
The 85 was already pushing the limits of the T-34 chassis, kind of like how the Pz.IV hit its limit with long barrel 75's.
>>
>>168578134
Syrian Army sent their engineer corps to change flow of Jordan river to dry out farms on Israeli side. IDF sent in Super Shermans to scare them away, by destroying their vehicles and other heavy equippment. Shermans didn't see their targets, they were given fire instructions by recon troops.

The longest direct fire kill belongs to Challenger of Army of Jordan during Gulf War, that scored a kill on Iraqi Type-69 from 4.7km
>>
>>168580592
If you've got a side shot on a Tiger or Panther you can penetrate with a standard round with HE filler. That WILL kill crew or cook ammo with a well-placed shot; in the very least wipe out most of the turret crew giving you time for a follow-up shot on the hull.
>>
>>168580860
You do realize they are talking about the Firefly, right?
>>
>>168580860
>HE filler
>17lber
are you having a giggle mate
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>>168580607
>but the Sherman chassis could actually support it
It's not because of Shermans that were superior platfom, but because gun was built specifically for vehicles lighter than most MBTs. It was low pressure gun, that allowed light weight barrel, produced less recoil and allowed larger warheads.

here's another vehicle sporting that gun
>>
how to find vg nerds to play with?
>>
>>168580946
No.
>>168581023
>>168580592
My bad, the 17 pounder is garbage without APDS
>>
>>168582147
type mlp or yiff in chat, find all the faggots
>>
>>168536589
No.

He's an ugly jewrat at best.
>>
Is it getting sabot?

I'd gladly have the 4202 be at a higher BR if it got sabot.
>>
Haven't played in almost a year (since 1.57 I think), how's WT these days?
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>>168579870
>Gaijin's code has a hard-on for bouncing shells off angled armour regardless of penetration stats

Only impact velocity/angle and shell type/caliber vs armor type/thickness matters. Bounce chance increases with range as the projectile slows down, then theres the rng variations in muzzle velocity, impact angle and armor strength which affect the overall probability of ricochet.

https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/781/
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>>168584267
>no 20mm

Into the trash
>>
>>168585057
Bad
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tfw you discover the IS2 armor meta magic
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>people enjoy sabot and heatfs
>people claim they good ammo

am i the only one who used sabot/heatfs back when they werent nerfed to hell and shit like bulldog would reliably 1 shot kingtigers to face?
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Did beautifighters get some kind of mobility nerf ?? Felt better before
>>
>>168587392
Just client stability improved )))
>>
>>168585371
>bounce chance
and here's where things go wrong. Shells "bounce" when they simply fail to penetrate due to factors like armor thickness, hardness, normalization effects.
IRL 2 same shells striking under same condition will yeld same effect. In War Thunder they may pen or bounce depending on RNG roll.
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>>168587584
>100+ MB update
>no patch notes
>not even 'client stability ))))))))'
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Why does almost every British tank's name has to start with a C?
What is this meme?
>>
>in b7a2
>head on beautifighter and win
>right after that out turn f4u and win
>p47 out of nowhere got 1 hit and turned into submarine
>>
>>168585371
That's all well and good but there's still the RNG bounce chance below ~30° (it varies from shell to shell) which overrides the penetration math and says "lol no it bounced"

I'd say it's coincidence that anything but a low velocity lobbed shell into a T-34 glacis will encounter a 30-20° AoA and trigger that random bounce chance but we all know that's how Gaijin plays things.
>Russian 76mm has exact same bounce RNG as German 75mm
>one of these nations used capped rounds to prevent bounce while the other opted for more explosive filler
>guess which aspect Gaijin chose to model
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>>168589159
>very British meme.
c = cavalry (later: cruiser)
>>
>>168589159
Somebody once mentioned something about, main reason was to avoid confusion
>>
>>168589159
It stands for "C"anister.
>>
>>168589359
>Churchill
So much for a cruiser tank.
>>
>>168589359
tanks naming has actual explanation though. Tank radios had switch allowing operator to change who his talking to. You don't want people talking with their own platoons to fill batalion level communication with their chatter. Not hard to guess, people were often messing up and talking on wrong channel. So for example, if you heard "Ajax", or someone calling "Ajax", you knew immedietaly who's on wrong frequency, so you can tell them to switch their radios.
>>
>>168589389
bongs are this dip?
I thought slavs were bad with their lets-call-every-panzer-a-tiger meme.
>>
>>168589159
C-uck
>>
>>168589812
AFAIK there's no consistency in infatry tanks naming, other than using names
>Matilda
>Matilda II
>Valentine
>Churchill
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How do we fix nippons ????
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who sneaky here?
>>
>>168580024
>work
Not really...
>>
HMG gets 3/4 AP
makes sense
>The belt filling for the coaxial and AA 7.62mm-7.92mm MGs has been changed: now the belt contains ½ to ⅓ of the tracer or AP-T rounds.
>https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/351744-update-16022017-1651204/
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>>168591463
wew
>>
>>168591463
>>168592108
real shame if somebody reported for breaking new rules
>>
>>168592285
new rules?
>>
>>168592315
something about rock climbing and hiding tanks too deep in water
>>
>>168581310
>spouts bullshit
You do realize there are two different kinds of french 105mm guns?
Yes the one on the AMX-13 is a low pressure one, the 105 mm Modèle F1 is comparable to an L7. Ever wonder why they put the AMX-13 gun on a sherman? Could it possibly be that the Sherman had a BETTER chassie than a post war French tank?

>its not because shermans were a superior platform
Shermans where a superior platform. Reliability and crew comfort that would make a russian tanker cry with joy. Or are you telling me that Guard units got the worse tanks?
>>
>>168592431
You don't have to climb rocks to get there.

Devs made the whole map avabile for tanks a few weeks ago.

http://wt-game-replays.warthunder.com/022fc408003814f8/0000.wrpl
>>
>>168589159
All carries of a certain class starts with an "I"
>>
>>168589649
What's in the Canister?
>>
what the fuck is that thing

https://warthunder.com/en/news/4518-development-b-10b-the-racing-bomber-en/
>>
>>168592959
>more early shit bomber that can't carry more than 2 100lb bombs and nobody will ever use
>>
>>168593464
>2000lb max payload
Actually looks pretty fucking useful to me.
>>
>>168591463
good luck hitting someone from there
>>
fucking when ??
>>
>>168594672
I'm wondering if we'll see more torpedo bombers as part of the warships content
>>
>>168594751
probably, they did add tier 5 torpedo jet for slavs

Even war thunder wiki says k-4 variant had 4 torpedoes, yet its missing that torpedo variant complitly. Me 410 also had torpedos
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Who else /smg/ here? Built a cheapo Academy Pz.IV Ausf.H for a Warhammer conversion (which was a bit of a nightmare, don't buy Academy kits) and currently working on a pair of Jagdpanzer IVs which I'm turning into APC's to keep a common chassis theme. Also have some PaK-40 field guns.

Really enjoying the tank kits and now I'm considering a Hetzer or StuG III Ausf.A to build as a proper kit or convert to match its WT version.
>>
>>168592559
>105 mm Modèle F1 is comparable to an L7
one on AMX-30, yes. One on Sherman, hell no.
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>>168592953
>>
>>168595902
>Sheridan can't take 'Beehive' rounds to obliterate low-flying aircraft
>>
I love Kursk, it's the best map in the game, since it allows actually realistic long range engagements. Why aren't there more maps like it?
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>>168595780
You do realize that the Israelis put both the french 105s on shermans?
>>
>>168596780
Because the Slav players bitched incessantly about unfair German sniper cannons so now we get MOBA maps.
>>
>>168596780
Because slavs can't aim for shit so now every map has to be WoT style garbage.
>>
>>168597279
>>168597875
>like slavs didn't have super-bouncy armor of high quality biasteel
>>
>>168591068
>this could well be a ground forces game
>>
>>168598371
But tovarish)))) gun not good enough is((((((((((((( now make map arcade so close aim can you))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>168592431
source? I need to read their justification for these rules
>>
>>168566884
Germany has a lot of paper jets that could've been as good as the Sabre.
>>
>>168597129
they didn't. People are just too stupid to tell difference between *same* and *developed from*, so they think Shermans were armed with full-sized F1s

different barrel length
different case
different muzzle velocity as result

of course feel free to prove me wrong by posting source saying that Israeli Shermans were ever armed with CN-105-F1
>>
>>168599246
Yes, if you ignore the general problems of jet engines of that era, no shit.
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>>168599832
I'd argue that construction standards are even more important than the engines and doesn't the Salamander in WT behave as if it was properly built?
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how do I make the snow look more ""firm""?
It looks like a charcoal spillage now.
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>>168600357
stop producing CO

fucking lohere never went to school
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>>168547207
it's had that round for ages
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>>168555496
>arcade
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>>168601263
>carbon-monoxide
what
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>>168592959
>more bullshit literally who bombers instead of actually cool early B-25s
fucking gaijin
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>>168592431
Lmao
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>>168603771
#YOLO
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>>168604042
Seriously now, is mountaingoating actually an offense now?
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>>168592431
>every Ash River battle has at least one fucking mountain goat ZiS-30
>INB4 ">playing ash river"
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>people have 3 different colored wing smokes

b-but how
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>>168598719
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/12738-war-thunder-rules/
jump to bottom, scroll up a bit until red text
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>>168606440
lmao, like anything is ever gonna happen
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>Hull Break
>New Tracers
>Balance and Economy changes
>mfw we're only 2 months in and more good changes have been made than in the entirety of last year

really made me think
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http://warthunder.com/en/news/4519-fleet-naval-pre-beta-testing-schedule-en/
http://warthunder.com/en/news/4519-fleet-naval-pre-beta-testing-schedule-en/
http://warthunder.com/en/news/4519-fleet-naval-pre-beta-testing-schedule-en/
http://warthunder.com/en/news/4519-fleet-naval-pre-beta-testing-schedule-en/

YES DADDY, YES!
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>>168606440
I feel like that refers to being inside rocks more than climbing onto them
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Not gonna lie, the new event is actually pretty fun
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>Not gonna lie, the new event is actually pretty fun
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>mfw the battle chest lottery lands right between two 75% premium discounts on 2k lions
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>>168607431
You get the Object 906 spaded and with an level 150 aced crew for the event, pretty fun to me
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If I were to buy a single premium vehicle from the store, so not with eagles, which would you say is the best investment?
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>>168607471
It's fake. They're just trolling you.
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>>168607597
T29
D-13
Tiger II Sla
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>>168607471
>my last three battle chests have been vehicle mods
>for previously spaded vehicles that I'm already 80% of the way to unlocking Crew Replenish
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>>168607659
Seeing how awful the grind is in this game I'm actually willing to belief that. Wouldn't put it beyond the devs to put these discounts there just to fuck with me. I guess I'll never land on the ones from the huge daily login chests, either.
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>>168607681
>D-13
>>
What's the best shell for the Tiger E?
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>>168608125
Depends on

5.3 or below: PzGr
5.7-6.3: Stock APHE
6.7: May the giant snail have mercy on you.(Bring APCR and helplessly bounce every shot)
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>>168607597
The t29 is an excellent tank. Very good buy.

Not sure about premium planes though. Haven't liked any premium plane more than what is already in the regular tree
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>Have a boring Chinese skin available for purchase on the P-38L
>100ge
>Not even listed in that tab that contains all skin descriptions/progress

Is there more of these unlisted abominations?
>>
1.67 when
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>Perform aerial feats like shooting down three 190 Dora(s) 9-13 while not getting shot down myself

>still being dwarfed in points by groundpound fags

Triggers me greatly watching a P47M shooting AAA and Howitzers on the island airfield on Norway and immediately get shit on by a 410
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>>168612932
March
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>>168612932
what do you need 1.67 for
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>>168613229
>not eagerly getting hyped for the B-10 speed bomber for tier 1

Seriously?
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>>168613642
*BBRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPP*
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>>168613025
fuck off spitshitter
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>>168613984
Im P38L shitter >>168610396

Why is this P38 at 4.7 and not 5.0 or 5.3?
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my god tiger 2 drivers are dumb as bricks

they probably think they're good aswell
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>>168614217
>t. Burgerplayer
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>>168614515
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>>168614965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HkuhSEnPQ
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>>168613642
>adding the Martin Company B10 as a tier one "what?"
>not adding the Martin B26 Marauder for tier 3

I really don't get it.
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>>168614217
The more popular a tank is the more idiots will play it.
I swear there are 99 retarded Tiger I players for every good one.
>>
JUST

POINT

AND

CLICK!
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>outturning Griffons with my 109 F-4
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>>168586924
>IS2
>armor

pick 1
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>>168584267
>introduce prototype before the production model
>finally model the production model
>but it's worse than the prototype, so it has to precede it
Gaijin, everyone.

The FV should've been a premium.
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>>168615185
yeah now what
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>>168453080
>Try to cap and hold a point all by myself
Story of my life.
Yesterday I got gangraped at the cap by three T34s.
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>>168619101
>prototype
testbed. It was not a complete vehicle, just Chieftain's turret fitted to Centurion, so it can be tested.
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>>168619538
>Chieftain's turret
It was an experimental Cent that eventually led to the development of the Chieftain, but it wasn't a Chief turret.
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Why does the T-54 1949 version get downgraded UFP armor compared to the 1947 version
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>tfw you bounce a helpless prop fighter when flying Kikka-chan
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>>168619997
because front was too heavy, and 100 mm worked well enough
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what now ??
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I genuinely hope the German cunts who got the T34-85 raised are happy now, I really fucking do. This thing is a fucking joke now
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>>168621202
Just like real life :)
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>>168620858
>and 100 mm worked well enough
>
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>>168621202
did it ruin your 10/1 kd ??
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>>168621040
R2Y2

Most Fun plane in the game, you can bomb and kill bombers and jets.
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>>168621510
I literally unlocked it yesterday, bounce off everything I shoot and gets killed in that cramped fucked
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>>168621202
boo hoo
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>>168621591
>>168621510
>>168621395
>there are people who legit think the T-34-85 is op

its literally a glass cannon without a good gun you spoiled panther driving kids
>>
>in KV2 on Ash River
>snipe M10
>shell explodes behind his track and kills EVERYTHING around it except for the ammo
>doesn't kill it
>reverse back to reload
>shot by 85mm
>pens my angled mantel and explodes besides the breach
>shrapnel flies through the entire crew into the ammo and kills me
You're telling me a shell with almost 7kg of TNT doesn't explode the ammo rack of an M10, but an 85mm with 164g(or 82g) explodes on the other side of my turret, flies through everything and explodes the ammo in the back of the massive turret?

is this the "magic AB experience" or just WT(H)?
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>>168621958
Yeah, this thing wasn't even hard to kill at the old BRs. Seriously who the fuck screamed that it was OP and had it raised? It's unplayable now
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>>168621497
best I could find was "Cтaтиcтикa пoкaзaлa, чтo 90% пoпaдaний в тaнки пpихoдилocь пpимepнo в мeтpe oт зeмли, a paз тaк, тoлщинy лoбoвoгo лиcтa yмeньшили." - Cepгeй Гpянкин (Teхникa мoлoдeжи. — 1990. — № 2)
but it's >Teхникa мoлoдeжи
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>>168621958
Panthers aren't good until the F
Panthers all need to be lowered by at least .5 BR
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>>168622232
Weak bait
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>>168621958
>nuke round
>made up 3x fire multiplier
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>>168622232
yeah i mean they clearly have enough trouble trying to penetrate T34s frontally, with all that armor they have
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>>168622297
I bet you think the Panther II belongs at 7.0 faggot
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>>168622360
>>nuke round
yeah only the Germans are allowed to oneshot every tank they meet frontally
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>>168622406
Who thinks the T34-85 and Panther D are equal? Whoever it is, that person needs to be fired from Gaijin
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>>168622531
is this the typical triggered germancunt?

I bet you think the T34-85 could fight the Panther II at 6.7, faggot
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>>168622589
I think naziboos have deeper pockets then everyone else, hence gaijin caters to them more.
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>>168622705
>Wah wah I can't pen a tank from the front
Literally just flank, dumb fucking slavnigger
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>>168622818
Yeah, can't believe they're complaining about a tank that performs perfectly fine at 7.0 over a tank that has issues with 6.3
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>>168622889
isn't that what you always say, naziboo? "Why is everyone complaining that my tank is better than theirs? Just flank me hurr durr"

I swear to God these people should be gassed
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>Spitfires now cost up to 30k SL
>They are on par with japanese planes

H O N O R A R Y ? ? ?

DID BRITAIN GET THE YERROW FEVER
GONNA HAVE TO SLAP, A DIRTY LITTLE ANGLO, AND UNCLE HANS THE GUY WHO CAN DO IT

Be it known that I, SETH WHEELER, of the city and county of Albany, and State of New York, have invented certain new and useful Improvements in lVrapping or Toilet Paper Rolls; and I do hereby declare that the following is a full, clear, and exact description thereof, reference being had to the accompanying drawings, forming a part ot' this specification.

My invention consists of a roll of paper for wrapping or toilet use so constructed that the points of attachment and severance between the sheets will be alternately out of parallel lines running through the whole body of the sheets, so that a pull upon the free end of the web will not be transmitted in a direct line through a series of sheets,but will be di- Verted by the spaces opposite the connecting points of the sheet pulled upon, thereby producing a transverse strain upon the next line of connecting points sufficient to break them. In carrying out my invention the sheets of paper are only partially separated, having their points of attachment arranged in a novel n'anner, whereby each sheet will easily separate'from the series as it is drawn from the roll, there being no litter occasioned, and any waste of paper is thereby prevented.
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>>168587787
>and here's where things go wrong. Shells "bounce" when they simply fail to penetrate due to factors like armor thickness, hardness, normalization effects.
>IRL 2 same shells striking under same condition will yeld same effect. In War Thunder they may pen or bounce depending on RNG roll.

But IRL there are variables affecting the terminal ballistics upon impact that affect the statistical probability of ricochet at a given angle and distance. These variables include variations in shell muzzle velocity and impact angle, projectile mass and hardness, armor strength variations thorough plate, etc.

It's a fact the angle of he armor affects the statistical ricochet probability, and this fact was used even by the Germans and Soviets as their penetration test gauge:

"However, the 8.8L/71 did penetrate 203 mm of armour when the Germans tested it. German penetration testing standards were different from the Soviets'. German penetration tests were performed with specially selected shells, against armour angled at 30 degrees. If a shell could penetrate the effective armour thickness 50% of the time (several times in a row, depending on the shell caliber), that penetration is recorded as how much that shell can penetrate.
--
The Soviets had two penetration standards. When only one penetration value is shown, 75% of the shell fragments end up behind the armour plate. When two penetration values are shown, the two values are for 20% penetration (possible penetration) and 80% penetration (guaranteed penetration). So, as you can see, according to this data, while the 8.8L/71 could penetrate 203 mm of armour using special shells with 50% probability, it could only penetrate 168 mm using regular shells with 75% probability."

http://tankarchives.blogspot.fi/2013/03/penetration.html
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>>168623525
Heretofore in the manufacture of rolls of paper the web of which is divided by lines of weakness into sheets it has been the practice to arrange the connecting points or bonds in parallel lines, or nearly so. Consequently, however slight the connection might be, it is evident, it the free end of the sheet be grasped at a point in line with the preceding connecting points, a long series of sheets may be drawn from the roli unless the free movement of the roll is prevented by friction or other means.

In the drawings, Figure 1 is a View of my improved roll suspendedon the si'm plest form of fixture with a sheet of paper hanging therefron, the points of attachment and severance being very near the margin of the sheets. Figs. 2 and 3 show my improved roll, the points of attachment and severance being nearer the line of center of the sheets than shown in Fig. l. Figs. 4 and 5 are views of my improved roll, showing two points of attachment and severance which alternate with one point of attachment and severance in the same sheet. Fig. 6 is a View of nyimproved roll as applied to a different 'or oblique form of sheet.,

a is myinproved roll, being com posed of a series of partially-connected sheets, and in Fig. 1 is applied to the sinplest form of fixture.

b is the fiXture, the arms of which pass through the core c of the roll.

d represents a sheet of paper ready to be detached from the roll.
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>>168617160
>point is2 directly at incoming fire
>shit brix
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>>168621958
>>168622159

>literal slavshits that need to get good
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>>168623872
Try the slavs until tier 3 and dare to post that again you spoiled little prick.
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>>168623741
>120mm of barely angled armor

woah...
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>>168624363
You'd be surprised.
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>>168621497
>implying it didn't
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>>168624065
i've unlocked every tank on their tree you presumptuous slimeball
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>>168624643
Yeah sure, just do us all a favor and place yourself in the gas chamber by yourself.
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Is there a chance of the T-64 being added?
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>>168624810
Probably not for a long while
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>>168624750
>being in this much denial
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>>168624810
Only after Germany gets a Leopard 2A7
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>>168623525
real world factors are already in game. RNG bounce is needless and arbitrary.

"50/75/80% rule" does not come from magical bouce factor, but varrying quality of shells, which affects penetration regardless of angle.
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>>168625163
Is this bait? Have you even played the T34-85 after the update?
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>>168624643
Even if that were true, you probably played through it when the soviets really were overpowered, near the launch of ground forces.

Which in turn, just shows how much of a babby you really are, only capable of playing OP shit.
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Since people hyped the t32 battle rating buff i decided to take it out.

Im sitting here wondering whats so special about this tank? Lets compare it to t54 which has 0.3 higher battle rating but generally fights same matches.

t54 has
>better mobility
>smaller weakspots
>twice as fast reload
>40mm more penetration on aphe round
>smaller profile

Why would i bother with t32?
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>>168625645
Pretty much all the heavy tanks with the exeption of KTs are obsolete
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>>168625645
Because it's one of the only american tanks in the tree that can't be penned by literally anything it sees and it has okay pen.
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>>168621202
what's your problem?
You can pierce frontally pretty much anything at same BR, and in most cases it's either one-hit-kill, or taking out entire turret crew.
And when uptiered, all you need is to flank, and you will still one-hit-kill.
>>
>Japanese Sherman literally gets to club because it doesn't face Tiger and Panther niggers AND sits at a lower BR

Why is this shit allowed?
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>>168625957
The lower front plate is made of paper and 200mm pen at 7.0 is just trash, absolute trash penetration.

Dont even tell me to use acpr because at that point the tank is completely useless.
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>>168626157
I know the tank isn't great. I really wish they'd replace it with the T32E1 which had a reinforced hull and eliminated the hull MG, but it's still more resilient than any clap tank maybe besides the Lee.
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>>168626157
Just accept the fact that no nation has good heavies except for Germany, and play the med line.
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>>168626371
>unironically telling someone to play the clap medium line
Are you a masochist? The only clap tanks that are playable are lights and TDs.
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>>168625962
Are you the same person or do every naziboo say "just flank"? And no, it can't pen anything frontally, the slightest angle to a Tiger, and you're out. The only way to even pen a Panther frontally is to shoot the turret over and over until everyone is dead. You can't even pen the American tanks frontally wit their 100+ sloped frontal armor and 177mm turret. And how are you supossed to flank on big maps or extremely tiny ones where it's close to impossible to get behind enemy lines?
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>>168626480
Well i do have m60 and heatfs to it too but american 8.0 is just so boring and without any "personality"
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>>168624363
I'm talking about the 1944.

I have charged multiple KTs, panthers, T29, etc and had them bounce fairly reliably.
>>
God Jumbo is so fucking OP at its BR now.

Nearly impossible to kill unless you somehow catch one unaware from behind.
Fucking burgershits are so handheld.
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>>168626371
Im disapointed because if the t32 had more penetration on aphe, say around 230-240mm it could face off t54 and is4 frontally. At the moment it cant even penetrate the weakspot on is4...

Well just flank...doesnt work that well because t32 has HUGE profile.

Only if war thunder meta wasnt so unforgiving.
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>>168626679
Are you retarded? The german long 75 can pen it anywhere and literally anything else can just shoot the mg port.
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>>168626679
This is bait right?
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>>168626487
>he can't kill Tiger with 85 mm
>he don't even know how to kill Jumbos
that confirms it. For Slav tankers anything that isn't point and click is overtiered and too hard to use
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>>168626939
90% of the time, you dont even get to see the tiger's weakpoint before getting popped from far away

>Why don't you just stop and take time to carefully aim at something that has much more accuracy and can ohk you from any range
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>>168626939
You pretty much confirmed you're a lying handheld german
>>
>mfw I'm a naziboo
>mfw I play my indestructible Jagdpanzerkampfwagengeschütz XVI Tigerpanther
>mfw I nuke a slav tin can every two seconds
>mfw I get half a million spawn points from 76 and 85mm guns bouncing
>mfw after 88 kills a Centurion gets an APDS hurled into my turret front which turns the gunner yellow
>mfw I bail out in rage
>mfw I board my Fonckelschmidtkers & Voss 14 and climb to space
>mfw I dive down on the teeb and instantly vaporize him using my GAU-8 predecessor
>mfw I get intercepted by a spitfire
>mfw I dodge using my 1945°/sec roll rate
>mfw I climb to space and dive on him again
>mfw I vaporize the teeb in a millisecond using my nukengeschoss shells made by slavic POW slaves
>mfw I strafe a Jewish ghetto on the way home
>mfw I complain on the forums about how overpowered teebs are while eating bits of Mein Kampf with milk
>mfw I know the Führer is smiling upon me
>mfw I'm a naziboo
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FUCKING HATE THESE TRENCHES REEEEEEEEE
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>>168627380
I've popped tigers and panthers from super far on 38th parallel with the 85mm, you just have to play smart with shot trapping the panthers or killing tank's tracks and have them expose their side when they try to wiggle away.
>>
>>168627380
actually I play Burger and Brit tanks. I don't play as bad guys.
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>>168627720
>having to put all this effort into killing your opponent when all they have to do is sneeze at your general direction

That isn't how balance works, hans
>>
>>168626584
I find that hard to believe. Anytime I try that with my IS-2 M1944 i just get fucking 1 shotted through the turret
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>>168625537
implying i'd want to lie about having wasted so much time in this game. the russian tree was my most played then, is my most played now, and will be my most played for the foreseeable future

take off the shit-tinted goggles
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>>168627825
I don't mind, I like fighting against tigers and panthers, it feels more historic and the kills are rewarding.
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>>168627869
>ive got 10000 games in my T-62 i clearly know more about this then you

fuck off
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>>168627896
gas yourself
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>>168627828
I get that, but usually if it's not an urban map I try to rush them if possible. Since it's a fairly quick tonk, it could catch them by surprise. Also I swivel my turret a bit so it's not as easy to hit the mantlet. I'm not saying it's perfect but I've had some pretty good games.
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>>168625645
Should just replace it with the mutant instead
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WHEN?!
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>>168627656
I like how the tracks doesn't do jackshit while running and touching the ground. This fucking game has the physics engine of an amiga.

t. nigger who just fell into a gap between iceblocks on Finland
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>>168628006
are you fucking retarded?
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>>168628938
no u
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>>168625361
>real world factors are already in game. RNG bounce is needless and arbitrary.

No, the bounce chances correspond to IRL statistics because hitting armor at a big angle most likely results in a ricochet no matter how "performing" a round is - and these variations correspond to real life statistical probabilities.

The in-game penetration statistics are taken from IRL measurements presented mostly in the books “WWII Ballistics: Armor and Gunnery” and “Terminal ballistic Data Vol 2 and 3.” as stated here https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/781/

>"50/75/80% rule" does not come from magical bouce factor, but varrying quality of shells, which affects penetration regardless of angle.

Yes, and these factors (varying quality of shells, velocity and quality of armor at given impact) are variated even in WT using RNG and the overall ricochet probability is what you see in the stats card. It's not magic, it's statistics.
>>
Wow, took out the T34-85 you guys were meming about.. Got uptiered 2/3 games and bounced almost every shot? SU-122 had to save the day

Yeah I agree, put the 85s back on their old BRs
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>>168630290
if RNG was used for these variations, it would be attached to perfomance of shell, not armor angle. Angle by itself means nothing. Even gaijin knows it's bull, which is why we have caliber rules and autobreech to avoid obvious BS situations.
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>>168630681
Never!
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>>168631353
if not, I'm going to painfully grind through tier 3 without touching a single T34 with the 4.3 lineup until I get the T44
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>>168631552
don't worry the t44 is even worse
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>>168631805
Please tell me you're joking
>>
Why is Warthunder getting fucking ATGMs and Shilkas anyway? Can we expect third gen jet fighters too?
>>
>>168633010
Only for Soviets))))) sekrit dokuments
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>>168633134
Germany would have Eurofighters before the soviets got third gen fighters
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>>168633134
>Only for Soviets
Well except every nation save for maybe the nips has ATGMs?
>>
>It's a "fucking retarded American teammates drop to the deck and turnfight zeroes and all die within 10 minutes" match.

4.0 USA is hell with moron teammates. please tell me it gets better.
>>
>>168634062
Hitler didn't go far enough.
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>>168632009
T-44 is basicaly a Panther, just faster and with decent reverse
>>
claps in their hellcats calling zeros OP is like me 262s calling p-51s OP
wew
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>>168634181
And at 6.3?
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>>168634181
except for the part where it has an awful gun
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>>168634485
Why is it at 6.3 then?
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>>168634658
Because Gayjin have no idea how balance works
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>>168634793
I see.. They left the T44 at 6.3, but raised the T34 which didn't even need any changes?
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>>168635015
You had a chance of fighting back in the T34, so naziboos cried their eyes out and got it nerfed, didn't have that problem with the T44
>>
STOP HEAD-ONING HE-219'S YOU FUCKING IDIOTS WHAT DO YOU EXPECT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
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>>168635147
>2nd, after T-10M, highest K/D among non-premium tanks in game
>literally better K/D than any Tiger or any Panther
>"had a chance of fighting back"
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>>168636182
I'd love to use this source of yours to check out the KD ratios of tanks now.
>>
>>168634658

Because its frontal turret can bonce rounds and it has a lower profile
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>>168636530
http://thunderskill.com/en/vehicles
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>>168473771

Not fun
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>>168636607
Isn't the Panther better than it while still being at 5.7-6.0?
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>>168633010
>third gen jet fighters
We don't even have second gen, retard.
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>>168637317
See the Sabre, MiG15/17 etc. Also don't call other people retards while you can barely breath yourself.
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>>168634485
Hasn't effected me that much. Ya'll niggas need to get aggressive.

The speed of the rank 4 russian heavies and mediums are it's best facet.
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>>168637664
Wrong. Those are still 1st gen. Super sabre and MiG-19 are second gen.
>>
>>168637317
gen 1 (subsonic)
>262
>meteor
>YP-80A

gen 2 (transonic)
>sabre
>mig
>hunter

a retard is you

>>168637664
[breathe]
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>>168637842
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fighter_generations#Air_Force_Magazine

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+tie+a+noose
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>>168637982
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-generation_jet_fighter#Air_superiority_fighters

>In 2004 the website Aerospaceweb noted that classification by generations, "appears to have first appeared in Russia during the mid-1990s when officials were planning a competitor to the American Joint Strike Fighter" and proposed a classification :[7]

>1. 1945 to 1955, similar in capability to piston-engined fighter, thrust limited early jet engines, subsonic, rare radars, conventional armament (guns, bombs, rockets) : Me 262, F-86, MiG-15, etc.

>Jim Winchester, in a book published in 2011 by The Rosen Publishing Group, proposed the following definitions:[10][citation not found]

>1. 1942–1950. from World War II to the Korean War, similar construction to their propeller driven fighter, 1st and 2nd generation turbojets : Me 262, Gloster Meteor, MiG 15, F-86

>The Royal Australian Air Force Air Power Development Centre Bulletin proposed a classification in 2012:[1]

>1. mid 1940s to mid 1950s. subsonic, no radars or self-protection countermeasures, unguided bombs and unguided rockets, no afterburners : F-86, MiG-15, MiG-17
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>>168637970
MiG-17F or a later hunter would be 2nd gen, but we don't have those models.
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>>168638158
>my arbitrary definition is better than your arbitrary definition
Fuck off retard.
>>
>>168638491
>implying your one definition is more accurate than my three
>implying anything in game has range radar or infrared missiles, indicators of 2nd gen by your own definition
>>
>>168638671
The Sabre had both IRL, and its very early Sidewinders are one of the reasons why Taiwan still exists. Again, fuck off retard.
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>>168639253
The sabre only got sidewinders from the navy as a field mod. Also, the radar gun sight isn't properly modeled. Neither are in game.
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>>168639417
And? It still fits within that definition IRL. Just admit that you're a retard and carry on.
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>>168639616
Variants other than what we have in game barely fit into the less popular definitions. You're trying to win on semantics.
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>>168639762
That's pretty ironic considering you started this shitty argument.

>less popular definitions
Citation needed.
>>
>Super Hellcat, stalking some Ferdi going through a pass
>fire into the rear of his vehicle from 20m away at at a slight deflection
>Bounce)))
>he reverses, move to go around him
>Killed by a KT further down the road
Man the 90mm has been the most disappointing gun yet.
>>
>>168640065
>not shooting the massive cheeks on the front of the Fredi
wew
>>
>>168640065
American short 90 is massively overrated.
>>
>>168640362
That's hard to do when I'm behind and above him.
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>>168637239
well, Panther has no reverse, and side armor might as well be paper. Obvious weak turret front, but same goes for T-44. Mostly it's either lack of reverse speed or transmission fire that get it killed.
Also T-44 pens less, but oneshots more.
>>
custom game when?
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>>168640481
It has 80mm of armor on the back, how did you fail?
>>
>>168640796
Now
>>
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When.
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>>168640794
Hm, I guess. But they moved all Tiger 1(and Tiger 1 prototypes) and the IS-2 to 5.7, don't see why the T-44 couldn't have slipped down to 6.0
>>
>>168640873
where is it?
>>
>>168640920
Does that kit come with those horrendous haircuts?
>>
>>168640805
Because 90mm is trash?
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>>168640997
host: TheClosetMonster
map: Mozdok
Pass: memes
>>
claps get an airspawn on hokkadio when
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>>168641261
>implying that would help
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>>168641005
No but it can be a good 1.0 SPAAG.
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>>168641494
Armored cars and trailers in WT when? Would be fun as fuck to get a lad in a SPG/SPAA on a trailer and drive around him, drop him off etc
>>
>>168641608
According to the Shooting Range weekly propaganda show, They confirmed the Puma and other armored cars to be in the works.
>>
>>168641845
But no trailers... Even the Tigers have a hook on the back, could attach a personal AA or backup gun
>>
>there are people in here who don't remember the full year and a half that T-34-85s were absolutely raping everything between 4.3-6.3, not even mentioning any other T-34 variant

selective amnesia is fun
>>
>>168642340
I didn't have a single problem with them since I started playing GF in 2015, it's clearly a L2P issue for the Germans and their fucking OP tanks. The BR raise is just ridiculous..
>>
Does Gaijin ever give away gold in events or have clan wars or matches where the prize is gold, a la WoT?
>>
>>168642970
Complete more Gold Wagers Tovarish)))))))
>>
>>168642729
>T-34-85, a tank built literally to kill the Tiger is placed lower than the Tiger in BR forever
>For over a year, nothing could pen "slopped" armor aka T-34s
>Shermans front plate somehow got weaker in the same slope armor change)))
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How much of a pathetic little worm do you have to be to report players in a fucking online video game? It amazes me how people can be such spineless cuckolds. Fucking bullied in middle school faggots.
>>
>>168643635
ok CHINOOOK
>>
>>168643183
That's it? Can you at least platoon for doing gold wagers?
>>
>>168643587
You kidding me? I tried playing the T34-85 the past days and I never realized it was this much of a punchbag. NOTHING has bounced my hull amor, even when I've been at insane angles. And American tanks are impossible to pen from the front with 100mm+ sloped armor and 175-177mm turrets and I can chose to have them one-shot me or just drive away

Seriously wake up, 1.63 fixed the diamond armor of the T34 and buffed the Americans.
>>
>>168644028

Yes, I said they fixed it. But for over a year it was killing the game. War Thunder lost an insane amount of players in 2015 due to the sloped armor mechanic change)))

They only recently fixed it. Also, they need to fucking fix anything other than APHE being totally fucking useless and we'll have a decently balanced game on our hands.
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>5.3 US GF
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>>168644248
>They only recently fixed it
1.63 dropped in September.

>Also, they need to fucking fix anything other than APHE being totally fucking useless and we'll have a decently balanced game on our hands
Actually it's broken too, just read >>168622028
Can confirm it happened to me aswell
>>
>grinding my stock Ostwind
>start hearing plane noise
>look around
>nothing
>look up
>someone is diving from the stratosphere
>gun elevation is awfully slow
>a barrage of rockets blow me up
FAIR & BALANS'D
>>
>>168644906
>Ostwind
>stock
That's your problem
>>
>>168644540
>1.63 dropped in September.
I guess I've got T-34 PTSD from the year of bouncing Panther and Tiger shots at 10m off the side of their hull

>Actually it's broken too

Hull break was something I was looking forward to for a long time, too bad it's retarded right now. Shoot anywhere and small vehicles instantly explode.
>>
>>168644506
Would you rather play the Shermans?
>>
>>168645064
Yeah probably, it's just frustrating and sad to play it now.. Tigers and Panthers are almost impossible to kill with the slightest of angle now. And thanks to the new BR it's what it faces most of the time, not to mention the Tiger 2s

>Hull break was something I was looking forward to for a long time, too bad it's retarded right now. Shoot anywhere and small vehicles instantly explode.
It's a fucking joke at the moment, looks like something out together in less than an hour without ANY testing and calling it a day
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>>168645050
Ikr
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>>168645717
Those 37mm HEF-IT against airplanes are just
>>
When are they going to make spawncamping a permaban?
>>
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>>168645505
No
>>
>>168646574
By the looks they literally seem to be on the way to start encourage it.
>>
>>168645991
What are the best shells? The default mixed ones? Just the HE or just the FI-T?
>>
>>168643841
Pls respond
>>
>>168644540
learn l2p, you obviously don't know how the ammo works
>>
>>168646939
Airplanes: Obiously HE
If you for some reason want to hunt tanks(ProTip: Don't) or if they attack your spawn and you want to helplessly fight back: AP rounds

No idea about the universal, don't seem to be able to kill either tanks or planes as reliable as with dedicated rounds
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>>168647141
>>
Would you rather be a crew member of a well armoured steel coffin, which if penetrated and caught fire would result in you burning to death, or a crew member of an open topped glass cannon that you can easily get out of in emergencies?
>>
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>>168647395
This is a joke right?
>>
>>168647395
Most crew members didn't die from the tank being hit by rounds that pierced the tank, it was when they bailed and got gunned down by small arms fire.
>>
>be >>168644906
>get annoyed by the impossible grind
>decide to send all the crew on holiday except my stock Ostwind
>select AB
>point on the lead indicator and click
>kill shitload of planes
>put the white cross under the red labels until it gets green and click
>kill shitload of tanks
>literally no effort or skill involved, it's just point&click
Wow AB is truly a shitfest. Why do people play that thing? RB may be pain and suffering, but whatever you do, you deserve it, especially the good things.
>>
>>168647395
Are you asking if I'd rather be in an M56 or a T-34?
>>
Birdcage F4Us when?
Early and late P-40s when?
P-51A and B/C when?
P-47C when?
>>
>>168652867
Teeb clipped wing corsair when?
>>
Why is Gaijin going on about the Centurion Mk I having worse mobility than than the Mk III?

Doesn't it have the same engine and transmission?
>>
Tell me about tracers.

Why are they so fucking cool?
>>
>>168589359
>Another Duffel Bag
>Antiseptic
>Anonymous
>>
>>168621958
>without a good gun
You wot. It'll pen Tigers and happily stunlock the crew, even if it doesn't one shot shit, it doesn't have to because it has that silly fire rate and insanely fast traverse.
>hump cover
>a wild Tiger appears!
>let him shoot one of your dumb bigger teammates
>pump 3 shells into him while he reloads

No dumb teammates around or you're in a slugging match?
>drive in and out of cover, whichever side he's not looking at
>use your own traverse speed to nail dem weakpoints while he's still trying to draw a bead

But we all know the truth. You're getting burned by 6.7 uptiering when you were perfectly happy clubbing BR4.3
>>
>Play tanks RB
>Spawn in a Medium tank
>Get 4 kills
>Cant respawn

>Enemy spawns in a heavy tank
>Instantly dies
>Spawns in AA tank
>Dies again
>Spawns in a plane
>Bombs a tank and crashes
>Spawns in another heavy tank
>Gets to destroy rest of already exhausted team
>>
>>168651697
It's fun.
>>
>>168652867
I just want the P51 C.

I don't know what the fuck is Gaijin's problem with choosing only cold war era tanks and "literal what" 30s era aircraft to add in these recent patches.
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>>168652867
>he doesn't have the P-51A

:3c
>>
>>168662789
>That fugly ass skin off a total shill vehicle

Yeah, I'm so jealous....
>>
>>168662789
Does it have a normal/historical camo option?
>>
>>168663508
>$3.50 USD
got
>P-51A
>Bf-109E-7/U2
>RBT-5
>T-V
>tricolor smoke
>100% booster that lasted three weeks

lol, not even poorfags
>>
>>168653932
Nice.
>>
>>168664053
unfortunately not
>>
Can you still get the Panzer 2 with the 50mm gun?
>>
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>>168655415
Looks like Star Wars
>>
>>168664449
You get it on steam my dude
>>
>>168662789
TL mustang is a bad joke and the FM is a meme.
>>
>>168651697
Because I can grind my american tanks by using the roof .50 to shoot at planes till I unlock parts, fpe, and the like.
>>
Why does the ace qualification cost gold?
>>
>>168666381
))))))
>>
>>168641993
but Tigers were never used to tow AA guns
>>
>>168651697
People shit on AB, but its actually fun in a stupid way, and a great way to get through stick grinds
>>
>>168668964
>>168668964
>>168668964
>>168668964
>>168668964
NEW BREAD
>>
>>168664480
>play my first WWII game
>its Company of Heroes
>See a 20mm Puma armored car firing tracer rounds
>idiot me at the time thought it was firing lasers
>>
>>168631210
get good tovarisch
>>
>>168651697
I'm >>168586924 and arcade is what I used to practice vehicles.

You get more practice in on vehicles with AB instead of just repeatedly getting one shot without a fight in RB.
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