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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, February 15th:
1493 – While on board the Niña, Christopher Columbus writes an open letter (widely distributed upon his return to Portugal) describing his discoveries and the unexpected items he came across in the New World.
1942 – World War II: Fall of Singapore. Following an assault by Japanese forces, the British General Arthur Percival surrenders. About 80,000 Indian, United Kingdom and Australian soldiers become prisoners of war, the largest surrender of British-led military personnel in history.


>News
CK2 DD41 - Secret Religious Cults
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-41-secret-religious-cults.999496/

EU4 - 14/02
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-14th-of-february-2017.999636/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>168324103
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FIrst for Willy
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>>168423912
How the fuck do you overcome massive British naval forts in DH kaiserreich?
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>>168424134
Because I'm thinking I'm just gonna nuke everything to ash.
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>>168423919
Based
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4th for more ideologies in Victoria 2
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>>168424438
>no National Populism
plsno
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>>168423919
Absolutely based.
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>>168424438
>no anarcho-monarchism
>>>/trash/
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MP?
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>>168424728
>anarchy-monarchism
So pretty much anarchy in general?
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Atatürk
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>Put forward a plot to murder a minor count
>Get 550% plot power
>Plot fails and I am discovered
>Twice in a row

JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY
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>>168424823
The only type of anarchy that was tried before and worked.
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Tips on what to do as a newbie in CK2?

Overwhelmed!
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>>168425014
>implying it wasn't feudalism/proto-reactionism
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>>168425183
Yes, it's the same thing.
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>>168424134
>>168424238
bump, need answers.
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>>168424438
>anarcho-primitivists have won the election
>mandatory demolition of all factories, railroads and ports
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>>168425295
Just doomstack CVs, NBs or lure them away, the AI is brain dead
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>>168425284
Feudalism was by no means anarchy. There wasn't a state in the modern understanding of the term, but there was still a strict, consistent hierarchy upheld over long periods of time by cultural and religious norms and traditions (As well as levies, militias and orders, of course). Anarchy implies that the "system" in place would allow for new dominant forces to take prominence by pure virtue of being richer/having more military strength/some other qualifier, which is not necessarily the case here.
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>>168425036
Play as an OPM next to a couple of other OPM's, blob out into them and use your new demesne to forge a great kingdom
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>>168425573
Explain, your strats sound interesting.
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>>168425607
Anarchy without hierarchy is how commies view it, which is complete utopia.
Ancaps see anarchy as a system without a state and especially without democracy, so by their definition feudalism would be consistent with anarchy.
I just wanted to meme though, so I don't really care tbqh.
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>>168425856
I'm not sure you'd be willing to find many ancaps willing to admit it, but the natural result of radical anarchy is the creation of informal despotic regimes.
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Both of them are my allies. Who do I help?

I'm thinking of going for neither
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>>168426436
Freeing the Rhineland will prevent Germany from beating the shit out of France and getting OP, for whatever it's worth.
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>>168426436
What the hell kind of flag is that
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>>168426573
I have most of Europe as an ally except France, but its not like I want any of them to get strong (t. eternal anglo)

>>168426663
Based AFPG made me one.
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>>168426774
Germany's fucked, no use trying to save a sunk ship.
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>>168426774
What does it represent? UK under control of the house of Brabant?
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After building up a massive invasion force, it seems I won't be able to touch Britain until I acquire the ability to atomize them into lumps of glass. So I've decided to invade Brazil due to pent-up sexual frustration after being blueballed by the ETERNAL ango.

What should I name the operation?
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>>168427335

Operation Hue
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Who dies? I doubt I can make India or Africa Anglo at this point no matter how many of them I kill and I have slavery enabled so it might be good to have African women around for British officers to colonize.
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>>168425295
Start one amphibious assault so they move all of their divisions there then start another one somewhere else.
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>>168425036
Starting as a viking in 867 makes things a lot easier until you learn your way around.
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>>168427380
Done.
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>>168427335

Operation t. Alberto Barbarossa
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>>168427390
Just the colonies lad, killing white people for nothing was where we went wrong in our timeline.
Inb4 >Irish >white

What else do you have besides in Africa?
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>>168427540
Newfoundland, Iceland and Greenland, Northern Territory of Australia and South Africa as states. India, Cape to Cairo Africa and most of Australia and New Zealand as colonies.
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How are the graphics in Victoria? They´re the main selling point for me to get that game.
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I swear to God there would be no other system other than Democracy in the world if the Jacobians were as uppity in real life as they are in Vicky2
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>>168427728
Gas em all I guess, you could get some abos in those states.

>>168427730
It's literally a fucking map m8
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>>168427795
Jacobins need to be nerfed and even disabled in certain occasions. I can't imagine a Totalitarian fascist or communist state still getting like a million Jacobins revolting after they've been crushed several times. It just doesn't make sense.
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>>168423919
W&B
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>>168428041

>Be danube
>pass all the social reforms
>Have only transportation ones left in 1920s
>still making Africa german
>Have gommie revolutions every year and 5+ militancy

Learned my lesson to only slowly push dem programs aside from health care and some education
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>>168427728
ahh...
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Budget pro right here. Even my fucking slaves are getting luxury needs.
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>>168428365
>johor still independent
what are you doing
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>>168428365
Literacy, we hardly knew ye
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>>168428629
>budget pro
>education spending at 50%
>administration spending at 100%
>military supplies spending 100% while at peace
>100% tariffs
>losing money
Are you memeing me
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>>168429472
Sweden cucked me when I let them get Germany's colonies from the massive gangbang on them. They have Johor nationalists now though so I'll annex it right after.

>>168429503
Didn't affect it all for some reason.

>>168429680
For some reason the budget went full red when Germany and KuK were having that war of their's. I have no idea what's up with that.

Also yes Bulgaria I can see this working really well.
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>Have spare gold
>let roll for military advisor before war
>fort defense
>manpower modifier
>force limit
>maintenance
>fort defense...
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>>168429817
>they're actually doing it

Where is Romania's army?
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>>168428629
>
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>>168430490
That's how it's done lad
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>R&I nigger made the thread 50 posts early again
epic

Anyway what is a fun country to conquer shit as in NWO? Not blob necessarily
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kys

>the problem with being allied with literally everyone
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Are we being raided?
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If I play as the Netherlands is there any way I can seperate and/or annex Flanders from Belgium?
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>>168430490

>Not owning a bit of everything and maxing out tariffs so your pops can max max $ while no taxes
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ah yes
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>>168431920
>1914
Should've expected this desu
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>>168432558
I'll come back for you later Serbia.

Eh, no balance of power lost. I'll have the Balkans in my sphere within 2 years anyway, after I've dismantled gigantic democratic Turkey[/spoiler[
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ded general. ded board. ded website.
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>>168432785
>I just remembered I'm war leader

Should I do the ol' Anglo double switcheroo?
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>>168432934
>Fucking over allies as the Eternal Anglo
Of course
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>when your brother kills you in a personal battle and becomes the new chief giving you more levis in the process
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Are Guard regiments just better Infantry?
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>>168424438
>anarcho anything
get on le cross
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>>168433138
No hard feelings eh Serbia... also I can add commie Greece to my sphere. Can I force a regime change on them or am I mixing this up with NWO?

>>168433296
Yes but they're a more expensive. Also I think you can only make Guards out of your primary culture pops.
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Seeing as it's on sale, has EU4 been modded/DLCed enough to be more than waiting for mana to tick up to do everything?

Might just get Cities: Skylines instead desu
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>>168433164
>be viking
>set up inheritances so the first born is immediately stronger than the brothers
>put everything in place for the firstborn to assassinate the brothers as soon as he's king
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After many successful years as a comfy socialist republic, the fucking communists finally managed to overthrow our beautiful democracy.

The new goals from here on out:
>subvert this bullshit dictatorship from within until we get our republic back
>make friends with the FSA
>take GroßCaliforniums from the CSA
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>>168434681
>macfag playing as california
poettry
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>>168434681
Maybe these guys can pull it off.

>>168435129
It's actually a pretty fun country. My mistake was encouraging too much socialist sympathy in my attempt to get a state capitalist party elected. Had like half my country rise up in commie rebellion.
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>>168435737
Ayy thank god.
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>>168435737
These ones we exterminate though.
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>>168436131
Freedom shall not perish from the west coast!
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>>168436131
That's not very tolerant of you.
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Who /Syndicalist/ here?
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>>168436289
Back in business.

>>168436321
They have to go back.
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>>168436540
FUCK YOU CANADA
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/is-ottomans-going-to-get-fixed-next-patch.999555/

>All those disagrees

Do people actually think the Ottocucks are fair and balanced?
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Can someone tell me how to deal with this militancy situation? I have literally all social reforms and practically all political reforms. The damn socialists are in power, militant socialist retards don't know what they want.
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Whoever wins this it's gonna be a fucking mess.

Hopefully I'll be able to dismantle T*rks before someone else does it for me.
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>>168436487
Mosley was a populist you fakker.
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I like the war names Victoria 2 makes up.

>playing as Bavaria
>have a North German Confederation state in my sphere of influence
>Prussia assert hegemony wars me
>Prussian-Bavarian Brother's War
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>>168436990
That time of the year again lads.
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>>168436487
>syndicalist
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>>168436984
I think I might have found the problem.

>>168437237
All of them.
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>>168437404
>it's the Jews
/pol/ was right again.
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>>168437237
What mod is this?
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>>168437404
>tfw 80% of world oil production
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>>168432378
Well this is interesting
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KuK had a good run, but it made a huge mistake in declaring war on the entire world and still deciding to defend Turkey when I move to dismantle it.
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>>168433721
pls respond
I have no ability to think for myself
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Is there any mod for Vicky 2 that lets me claim my rightful Mormon clay?

Preferably better than vanilla does.
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>1991
>1989
We're doing it reddit
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>>168438328
HPM you wingnut
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>>168438369
Is there like a specific Mormon pop, or is it just Yankees following the Mormon religion?

And how far do I need to go before I can release Deseret? I know it doesn't have cores from the beginning start date like it does in Vanilla, how do I make sure I can get my cores?
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pls help
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The entire fucking world is ganging up on KuK. People are coming across the Atlantic just to destroy them. I can't even occupy them to win my separate war because everyone else is.

>>168438330
Extending end date?
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>>168438565
>>168438330
>>168438118
>>168438018
>>168437963
what mod is this REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>168438625
treed
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>>168438786
download link?
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>tfw you want to play ck2 but there's a 11 minute update
>tfw it'll probably delete all my pirate DLC
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>>168437361

The good old days when the German Empire was a rapetrain

Its a shame the commie loving fucks that are the KR devs buffed the commune too much
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Rate this Europe

>mfw have to blob nonstop to keep aesthetic borders because retarded vassals keep winning external wars
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>>168436965
Here's the thing. In Europe right now, the governments are fetishizing Muslims hard and trying to push them as better than the natives and completely harmless. Turks, as a less brown breed of Arab who are generally less inclined to full on terrorism, are thus the poster child to get Europe to accept Muslims in general. Thus they can tolerate nothing that insults or criticizes Turks in any way whatsoever, and to the true believers at Paradox that includes saying the Ottomans weren't the best and most enlightened empire ever and that they shouldn't be overwhelming broken and powerful in the games.
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>>168439206
civilize the savages to the east
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>>168439068
Is it the South Indian portraits or is there another one?
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Why the hell does FSA have cores all the way over here but nothing in the Midwest? They won't be my friends anymore since I took Nevada :(
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>>168439659
Yep DLc ois gone I got it from a mega link beofre got one for all the stuff?
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>>168439206
>aesthetic borders
>Croatian Pomerania
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>>168439763
>Yep
What? Is it the South Indian portraits or not?
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>>168439829
yep that's the only DLc I have now
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>>168439572
I'm working on it, the nomads are very stronk at the moment.

>>168439780
>vassal nibbles a weird, wiggly line out from my comfy kingdom
>owns too much land to just let go, figure it'll be easier to gobble up pagans to keep my borders semi-even

Recommend me a better name than Croatia
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Nothin personnel
>>168438565
Don't really see the point desu, the game has been a huge headache in the last decades with UK's AI incompetence, Italy sphereing the entire world via Great War events and fucking everyone else's economy temporarily, Germany spending +15 years trying to dismantle Japan for the second time and so on. Oddly enough, Russia held itself decent and was the least of my problems ever since ~1890, which was when I took the Caucasus from them.
I'll post the world's results though.
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>>168439829
Don't know why it says it was added two years ago but i just saw it today
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>>168438625
It's Lurk More Mod
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>>168440050
Pops including my Chinese ports and the Eritrean colony
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>>168440013
groB Croatiumß
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first for house Lewisham
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AMERICA WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
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Incoming shit borders.
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>>168440619
GroßAmerikas
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>>168440080
>>168439829
https://mega.nz/#!4gkkiACR!lnDQDHneoQH0ANG3GT4VoC5-9ixXQWYxH6LSzgmv2-A
Got the DLc from this link, before the update it was just fine. the DLc is still there but it's not in the menu
does anyone have an activator?
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Anybody understand the economy in HPM? I've been waiting over 2 years for even a single one of these railroads to start building but I can't get any lumber. I've been waiting over a year for a brigade that can't get canned food. I know prestige affects your standing on the world market but I'm 10th.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet. I was on the forums yesterday, and apparently there's a mod for the CK2 > EU4 converter that's (mostly) compatible with the SWMH map portion of HIP.

https://github.com/TheMarmottin/Converter
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rate my russian blob so far, first time playing as them and this was quite the unusual game desu
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>>168440380
And pops without the colonies. Not that much of a difference really. I also have more Russians than Armenians (2% vs 1.9%) and Jews are around 0.7% of the nation and the remaining 1% is shared between (mostly) Sikhs and a minority (within the minority) of Hindus and Animists.
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>>168440836
Holy fuck, now that's multicultural
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>>168440790
Here's alot of activators
https://mega.nz/#!ExM0mLST!OArki-vfv9UU2g1kkwE983cdT9S822TsOnhJLaf_eSk
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>>168441189
World map.
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I doubt I'll get an answer because M*c, but do you guys think this includes the base game or is it just the Heart of Darkness add on?

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/victoria-2-heart-of-darkness/id666843213?mt=12

I just bought the bundle on sale on steam but didn't realise Victoria on steam isn't Mac version.

Also the main HoI3 is mac but the addons aren't on steam, though you can get the entire bundle for Mac on the App Store.

I got a free Macbook from work so no >Mac posts please.
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With America surrendering after Turkey and KuK, the world seems to finally be looking towards peace.

I'm tempted to convert this to DH or HOI3. Could have an interesting scenario with a revanchist America, Turkey and Austria.
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>>168441864
Vicky is in the app store lad.
Apparently they'll just ignore you. All I want is a little advice on why I can't get any fucking imports. Autists.
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>>168441779
And the endgame screen.
Honestly I feel like I can do far better than this, I'll start another game as Persia this weekend and see if I'm right.
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>>168441153
>that Bukhara
I feel you, bro, it once happened to me, too. Not much you can do unless waging costly wars.

>not taking the Livonian Order while Poland takes on the Teutons
Disgusting.

>letting the Ottomans take the Crimean Khanate
Think of the poor girls that are still being sold into slavery in Azov because of your negliance.

>not keeping Poland occupied (kek), so they don't even think about forming the Commonwealth
Sad.

>Tver

>Swedish Finland

>Tabarestan not in Tabarestan

At least you are fighting the Commonblob, tovarish. Weitermachen!
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>>168442120

It is. So I guess I'd have to buy both.

I don't understand why some of the Paradox games have the Mac versions but others don't on Steam. It's really annoying.

Like how now I have the base HOI3 but can't get the addons. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS. I'm offering to give you money for an old game and you're just not letting me.
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>>168441864
>>168442120
Sorry I didn't even read your question. It does.
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>>168442535
Yea it's nonsense. HoI3 with addons is in app store too.
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r8 :^)
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>>168442659

Yep I just saw it. Decent price, too.

>>168442550
Ok so the main game is included is what you're saying?
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R8 my post-war Europe. Not too bad I think.

>yfw Austria reforms a communist A-H as this timeline's USSR
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>>168442709
Based Finland
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>>168442932
Tbh I can't remember, I bought it like 2 years ago. Safest would be to buy HoD first if you do give it a shot.
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>>168443236
>Georgia
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>>168442709
USA USA USA
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>>168443294

Ok I'll try it. Thanks for your help!
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>>168438369
>>168438501
REEEEEE HOW DO I MAKE IT?

Eventually this decision pops up but I can't get Utah to become a state, which is basically the only requirement. Even with "encourage colonial migration" focus on Utah only I do not get any pops moving over there at all to even begin trying to make it a state.

I just want to be Deseret as fast as possible.
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>>168443728
hover over the question mark you idiot
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I'm awooo girl nao
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>>168444039
Read my post, you idiot.
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>>168444136
*cringes*
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>>168442348
Bukhara will be my punchbag soon enough, they're allied with the ottomemes, but besides that, they're the least of my worries
>>Tver
They're muslim and an Ottoman vassal. I fucked up in the beginning and didn't attack/guarantee all of those russian minors, the Horde vassalized Tver and Ryazan and force converted them to Sunni. Then, the Crimean succession happened and the Horde, who were at war with Crimea, lost a bunch of land and one of the vassal. then I attacked and made them my vassal. From there, I vassalized Circassia and gave their cores back, kicking Genoa off Crimea and vassalized Theodoro too, that's why these borders are really weird. Sweden and the Livonian Order are my allies since I can't really seen to be able to ally anyone else because lol Orthodox in Asia, I'll think about dealing with them later.

>At least you are fighting the Commonblob, tovarish.
Yeah, managed to stackwipe one of their armies and their manpower is lower tham mine. I can win this fairly smoothly all things considered, think I'll focus on then first, then I'll fix that ottomeme nonsense in the Black Sea
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>>168423912
Is he our guy?
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>>168444474
Respectfully Helpful x 1
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>>168443236
>Greece gets parts of Anatolia but not constantinople
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>>168444039
Pretty sure he knows how to form it, that's not the question being asked at all. He wants to know how to get Utah to be a state so he can enact that decision.

>>168443728
If you're trying to make Utah a state, and you aren't getting any migration even with the focus you're just shit out of luck.
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So I'm still trying to get the After the End mod and another mod to work, but I can't figure out where it is going wrong. The mods are listed as active and I have them checked in the launcher, but when the map for AtE isn't popping up. When I try to use the console to give my characters traits from the vampirism mod I have installed it can't find the traits. I made sure they were spelled correctly and the mod path is documents\ paradox interactive\cruasder kingsII\mod to match the paths in the mods themselves. The .mod files are in the \mod folder and not in the folders containing the mods. What am I doing wrong here?
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>>168443236
pretty gud, Bavaria and Poland look ugly but Ive never seen a pretty AI-made Poland in this game

>>168445439
makes sense, there were plans to give Greece area around Smyrna/Izmir because, unlike Constantinople, it still had a Greek majority
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>>168435737
Never, ever encourage socialists. Give the cunts an inch, they take a mile.

In a game as the Dutch, I encouraged socialists to get state capitalism. The socialist party was comfortably in power and I had made every single political and social reform.

BAM. Radical socialists rebel, and overtake my country in days. The people they installed in power had already been in power for 3 or 4 years.
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I can't find Johan's tirade about pirates being exactly like pedophiles.

pls post
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>>168433702
>Also I think you can only make Guards out of your primary culture pops.
Primary or accepted cultures can become guards.
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Is HPM dead?
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>>168438328
>>168438369
>>168438501
>>168443728
>>168445549
>Mormon Exodus decision in HPM requires Utah to be a state
>in real life Utah was only a territory during the Mormon Exodus

"Historical" Project Mod
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>Tfw its impossible to have strategic battles in EU4 anymore because the AI will immediately abandon all their sieges to throw their troops into the meat grinder against yours

War is so boring at this point
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>>168442127
Tips for not getting assblasted by Russia as Persia?
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>>168447641
>playing europa memeversalis 4
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I won the starting war against France as England and now they're in a PU under me.
I don't want to colonize and expand too much.
Should I force English culture on France and hope to inherit them later on?
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Should i let this happen?
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>>168446582
Never again
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Damn I just tried Sengoku Rance and it really IS grand strategy
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>>168447801
Fuck yea
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>>168447723
They're too big to inherit, you'll have to wait and integrate them.
I don't know if they'll culture-convert their french provinces if you force culture on them. If they don't then all you'll be doing is causing more rebellions.
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La Plata
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>>168448268
I thought that converting their culture would make sense if they started to colonize so that all of their colonies would share my culture.
I want to get ndustrial Evolution (25 development in every England province) by the end of the game and I don't know if I can do that while colonizing half the world like GB would.
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I am a Hellene and I am superior to everyone in this thread

The national anthem of Qing
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>>168447594
he went back to his rightful home on /r/paradoxplaza
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>>168447594
No, he posted here a few days ago. Just search the archive to see his last post..
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>>168448487
>le spoiler joke
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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I got blacked but my kid have nice traits.
Don't know how to feel desu
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>>168447145
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>>168448727
>le greentext
>>>/r/4chan
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>>168447594
Worse. In China.
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What is the "The National Anthem of Qing" meme?
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>>168449471
the newest dank meme from /r/paradoxplaza
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>>168449569
And why is it a meme there?
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>>168449657
because its le random
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>>168449793
Thanks
t. maymay student
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>>168447687
You get the same army techs Russia usually has by the time you westernize (between 1850 and 1855) and both Germany and Austria try to ally you.
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long boy
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>Primitive Nation
>Uncivilized Nation
>Partially Westernized Nation
What do these represent in history? I've been wondering for a long time.
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the potato stands triumphant
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>>168450312
They don't represent anything, because every country in V2 that has its own borders is civilized. They're just technologically way behind the west.
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>>168450312
McDonalds per capita
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CK2 here.

Why the fuck does my vassals adopt Feudal governments if their main government (my Egyptian empire) is Imperial?

Is it some sort of bug? I am supposed to be able to retract any titles from them as the emperor, but they get buttmad anyways while being feudal.
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>>168450312
>primitive
somalia during the 1800s (and right now kek)
>uncivilized
qing during the vic2 time period
>partially westernized
persia, japan mid meiji restoration
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>>168450725
What about Ethiopia?
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>>168450658
there is no imperial government in CK2

are you using a mod
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>>168450873
don't know much about ethiopian history other than they really wuz kangz and they btfo italishits.
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>>168450312
>primitive nation
tribes with very weak horizontal or vertical structure. zulu, xhosa, kokand

>unciv
nation with strong structure but no technology. Qing, korea, egypt

>partial westernized civ
tokugawa, persia, mughals
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>>168450578
good lad

t. Irelad
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>>168450908
there is, are you stupid?
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>>168450658
Because when you're an Imperial government you're supposed to revoke all your idiot vassal's hereditary titles and hand them back viceroys instead.
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>>168451384
>tfw i got to nothing because germany steamrolled france, austria and russia alone
at least i killed 200k english soldiers
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>>168451384
hey fuck you
>>
im about to buy a dlc for CK2

im torn between soa and reapers due

which is better?
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>>168451564
all you can hope for, killing brits.

@168451639
wow rude.
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>>168451652
>buying paradox games
>buying paradox dlc
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>>168451652
t.paradox shill
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>>168451516
Thanks friend. It turned out I could revoke the titles freely anyways. Huh.
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>>168449297
thanks
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>>168451870
fuck off t*rk reee based trump and putin will nuke your ass of the planet!! desus belt praise kek
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>>168451846
>>168451857
i-im sorry
>>
dead thread
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>>168452361
ded gaymes
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I haven't played any grand strategy for over a year now and really want to get back into a decent game of Vicky 2 or perhaps even CK2.

Does anyone have any good ideas for an interesting playthrough or any mods to check out? I also have HoI3 and EU4 but I played HoI3 to death and I can't get into EU4 at all.

Please help, I'm bored as fuck and miss /gsg/.
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>>168452628
Robmod for Liq 2
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>>168452628
Westernising as Persia in HPM is the new quickly forming germaniums
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>>168452628
I'm having a lot of fun with California in Vicky right now. So many immigrants.

In CK2 funnest game I ever had was taking Hasteinn of Nantes, leapfrogging my way to Crimea and setting up another Norse kingdom in eastern Europe with my boys Rurik and the other dude.
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>>168451870
?
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>>168453075
Why doesn't Constantinople produce Silk?
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>>168453171
Byzantine monks stole silk worms from china and brought them home.
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>>168453171
>why doesn't a country with no silk worms produce silk?
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>>168453282
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_silk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_silkworm_eggs_into_the_Byzantine_Empire
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>>168453276
Yeah so it should be produced there
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>>168453421
How the hell did they get a hold of Silk worms?
Wasn't it closely guarded by the Imperial palace?
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>>168453851
>look wang wong ching chong, it's jesus!
>nani?
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>AI Denmark
>Great power
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>>168451741
>tfw the potato stands supreme
how long should i occupy them for?
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>>168454267
what happened to Netherlands and Belgium?

>>168454516
until they all perish dismante their empire as well if you can.
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>>168454267
Did they add a dismantle CB during a great war?
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>>168454640
>dismante their empire as well if you can.
not enough war score for that i do wish i had chosen to take Scotland rather than free them but there still time for me to crush them again
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>>168454640
phase one complete
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http://poal.me/h0s5cj
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http://poal.me/h0s5cj
http://poal.me/h0s5cj
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>>168455126
What colonies will you go for? Also Gaelic union when? add scottish as accepted and annex Scotland
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r8
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>>168455325
i was going to take scotland but i decided they deserved freedom instead not sure what colonies i'm gonna take hopefully i can ally the us so i can feed them canada
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>>168455513
>bulgarian dick into macedonia
why
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>>168455513
>that disgusting germany
>that disgusting austrohungarian egypt
your map is disgusting
>>
>>168454672
Nah, they've not been in great wars yet. They're losing GP status now as well.

>>168454640
Both have got equally cucked in wars with Germany and France, and Netherlands got dismantled in the Great war.
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Infamy to burn, not sure what to burn it on. Event hasn't fired to restore order to colonies. If it doesn't fire because Andine Federation I will fire it in the early 70s.
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>>168456237
Reclaim Italian holdings.
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>>168456398

I thought about puppeting two Sicilies, but 9 militancy consistently to break free would be a bit much.
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Worth?
Is this GREAT DEALS AGAIN?
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based russia
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>>168457012
do NOT buy paradox games
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>>168457107
Why not?
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>>168457196
Because they're j-
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>>168457012
>23 Eurorinos
I got the same bundle for mere 10 Euros, 3 years ago.
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>>168457196
>supporting the company that made shit4 and goy4
Paradox isn't making good games anymore.
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>>168457305
oh no
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>>168457475
now pirate the DLCs.
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>>168453171
DELENDA EST
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>>168457475
What a fucking retard.
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>>168457550
sure
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>>168457014
goddamnit game
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>>168424438
trying to understand what each of these mean and am just confused
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>>168457475
>Liqqy 2 lowest rated
>EU 4 highest rated

LIQUORIA BABBIES BTFO
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>>168458073
Most of them are just meme ideologies.
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Anyone give Realpolitiks a try? I smashed Ukraine good, but the US invaded and we traded Nuclear Strikes and got engaged in a forever war. The UI is a bit obtuse but it could be amusing, especially in an african war.

Also their loading screens are pretty fantastic.
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r8 my europe m8
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Oh shit I tried pirating the games and this appeared what do i do??
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEkDsUrmFC4
Why is Liszt so good
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>>168458683
Cause of thematic transformation.
>>
Is it a good Idea to do stupid shit or declare wars you can't win or make custom nations as rebels or something when you get too powerfull? (Maybe do It when you get a shit king)
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now THIS is grand strategy
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>>168460172
in what game
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look Japan and CV (Aircraft Carriers)
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>>168460321
Sengoku Rance
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>>168460380
hehe, get fucked
>>
Should I give some random European powers some bits of India and the East Indies (since they aren't colonizing and they're only a little bit behind Europe anyways) and should I increase Persia's development a little bit? Since they're BTFO'ing the t*rks so much and I want a decent enemy in the East
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>>168460886
for fuck's sake
>>
about to get into eu4

any pointers?

any tips or need to know info?
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>>168460886
>>168461482
>Should I give some random European powers some bits of India
No, not with Vaginanigger and co. so powerful

>and the East Indies
Post them and I'll tell you

>and should I increase Persia's development a little bit
Why not
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>>168461558
Watch Arumba's 69 part beginners guide.
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>>168461558
the only pointer you need is one pointing to uninstall.exe
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I have two questions

First, Am I the only one that gets a raging hard-on every time he forces a bunch of prisoners from another religion to be his concubines?

Second, I just realized I don't have any real final goal for this game, any ideas? I was thinking of conquering all the celtics but I guess I could also try to invade france or reform the faith.
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>>168461652
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>>168461558
uninstall.exe and start building liquor factories and promoting bureaucrats in liqqy 2 like a normal human being.
>>
>>168461558
sure buddy. play castile or england. and just learn the shitty mechanics of the game. they may seem complicated but in reality they are overly simplified shitty mechanics that after 1 hour you should handle all of them.
>>
wtf guys why don't you like eu4 :(
>>
>>168458073
autism
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>>168461808
>meme start
>over demesne limit
>having concubines with gavelkind succession
>accomplishing this little with hastein
Remove yourself.
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>>168461818
>three large states and Breton Moluccas
It's mostly fine, but if you'd like you could give the Yuros a few of the uncolonized provinces and maybe a OPM or two
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>>168448378
sim city is not gsg material
>>
>>168462278
But it's not fine, there's not a single European army in all of Asia, and they don't declare any wars. I don't know what the fuck the AI is doing desu
>>168462348
That's not sim city its Cities:Skylines
>>
Is there a type of factory that benefits from having precious metals in the state?
>>
>>168462447
>there's not a single European army in all of Asia
It ain't the 19th century yet, pal, and if the natives are in large organized states just giving land to the Yuros doesn't make any sense at all
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>>168462208
Old Gods is only a meme start if you're not playing Norse desu.
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>>168462953
>all the world has the same tech levels
>yuros are colonizing nigeria instead of the rich east indies
wow really activates the almonds
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>>168463036
n*rseniggers are the biggest meme of them all.
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>>168463094
>this is a believable world according to johan
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>>168463220
You're just salty they beat you to North America.
>>
>>168461558
If youre not at war then you're doing it wrong
>>
>just a year ago this was one of the fastest generals on /vg/
>now its dead
/v/ has been taken over by MOBAtards and Counterstrike kids
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>>168464567
Theres only so much shit you can say about 4 year old games.
>>
>>168464567
The shitposters keeping this general alive left when Cobra got doxxed and now it's mostly /r/paradoxplaza.
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>>168461890
Because they're all tryhard /v/irgins
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>>168464881
tjohan
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Best country to go commie as?
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>>168464973
Mexcio.
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>>168464973
india
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>>168464973
la plata
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>>168464973
Maghreb Union
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>>168464567
HPM has slowed down and the same games get old. EU4 has been raped by the devs; its not remotely fun anymore
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>>168465275
This one does sound pretty interesting t bh
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My pirated DLCs stopped working yesterday what happen
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What's the difference between grand strategy and 4x?
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>>168465740
u got unpirated m8
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>>168465740
What game?
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>>168465740
Oooooh you're gonna get vac banned m8
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>>168465841
CK2
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>>168465787
4x is about simulating boardgame type gameplay in a computer game form
grand strategy is about simulating highly abstracted real life in a computer game form
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>>168465940
The same thing happened to me desu. Just run the activator again.
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>>168465958
Cool. What's a good grand entry-level grand strategy game?
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>>168465958
Then EU and HOI. They're literally based off board games.

EU4 is even graphically made to look like a board game.
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>>168466107
Stellaris is the easiest because it's a hybrid between 4x and GS.
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>>168466107
Liquor factory and bureaucrat simulator.
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Does anyone know what the difference between "a noble from house (dynasty) succeeds to the throne" and the immediate PU is? Cause France's king died. For about a year, I was set to inherit. They were the first to outlaw slavery and jumped above me in prestige. It switched to my dynasty getting on the throne. Another year later, they've fallen down to 40 and I'm at 100, but it remains "a noble from house (dynasty) succeeds to the throne"
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>>168464567
Is a new grand strategy game in development?
Can someone brake paradox monopoly?

>>168466295
EU4 is Risk with some cosmetics.
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>>168466689
We can.
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>>168464973
play third odyssey
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>>168466107
>>168466432
don't play stellaris until after the patch comes out
and then don't play until a month later when the bugs are mostly fixed
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>>168467371
Who?
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>>168467469
fuck off mayaka
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>>168467338
what patch? are there any dlcs yet? i only played stellaris when it came out and i haven't touched it since.
Are there any good mods yet?
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>>168467371

What the fuck am i watching.
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>>168467596
>what patch?
google it cuck
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>>168467780
>wasting time and effort on st*llaris
lmao
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>>168462875
no
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>>168467894
t. liquor baron
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>>168464567
hoi 4 turned out to be shit
once we get a GOOD game it will liven up again
ck2 was the last truly good paradox game
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braise dengri
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>>168468661
top quality post
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>>168467724
the return of a legend
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>>168467371
And people say Africa never had any Empires. What now bigots?
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Is it cheating to release California as America before I switch my nation to Deseret?
It does make it a lot easier to get all of California, but you already start with the important (Gold Rush) parts of Cali anyway.
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>>168468221
I made a prediction HoI4 would be playable around july this year. Looking at what theyve done its gonna have to be an unbeliveable patch to live up to what I said. Still they are slowly fixing it so one day it will be playable since it actually does have quite a bit of promise to be better then DH or HoI4. Shame we live in an age of gameing where you have to wait a year and an extra 50$ for a game to be playable.
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>>168467371
that takes me back
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>>168469143
>Doesnt have all dlc
Please for all that is good and holy pirate all of them right now. The game is borderline unplayable without them.
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>>168469329
>EUIV
>Borderline unplayable
Seems about right
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How do I make Arretium great again /gsg/?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arezzo
>The city continued to flourish as Arretium Vetus ("Old Arretium"), the third largest city in Italy in the Augustan period
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Whats the point of the Trail of Tears or organizing the Indian Territory? They both seem pretty much useless and only detrimental.
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>Italy loses the war for Libya
>Ottoman Empire doesn't join in the 2nd Balkan War
>USA stays neutral the empire war (so far)
>Germany doesn't take the Schlieffan Plan and Belgium stays neutral
>White Russia wins the civil war
>Ottomans are halfway through India

This game has been pretty ebin so far
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>>168470230
How the fuck is Germany losing against France and Austria is beating Italy holy shit.
Also pls tag to each of the GPs and show their armies
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>>168469112

As long as you make it a balanced range.
IE, dont just benefit yourself. Make a believable world.
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>>168466674
Bump.
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>>168470687
My justification was that America didn't have the Oregon Territory when Deseret was released so they lacked a real incorporated land connection to California, the Mormons making travel through the area difficult for the US agents, so it was released to former California Republic lands to be reintegrated later when it was more feasible.

I didn't just give all of California to me, I released them from the US then militarily invaded them as Deseret before the US finished their Oregon Territory.
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>>168471148

Not sure I like it. A little too gamey!
Fracture the west more. Free texas, etc.
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>>168471148
>playing a meme mod
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>>168470524
Here's the French Front, I'll show the Italian Front and Stats next.

>How the fuck is Germany losing against France
They never got farther than Nancy, turns out not using the Schlieffen plan was a bad idea. It was pretty much just a giant trench at the 1914 border for awhile, and then it all fell apart. France had almost all of Western Germany, as shown by the damage still in Essen, but luckily the soviets chimped out almost days after the front broke and millions of experienced Germans pushed them all back, it has since stabilized.
>Austria is beating Italy holy shit
Italy only took Tirol from them when the rush of soldiers from the east hit, so they were driven back pretty far. Most of the Italian front is French troops now, all the Italians are either mixed in or barely there since their troops are so shit.
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>tfw no balkanized us
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>>168471523
Nice, how many soldiers does Germany have? France?
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>>168471536
soon tovarisch
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>>168471536
Come back this time next century.
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>>168471685

Fracturing the U.S up would solve most issues here on the homefront. Or at least giving more control back to the states.
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>>168471893
Such an empire needs to descend into complete corruption before it dies
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>>168471893
Constitutional Convention when?
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>>168469329
Which ones
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>>168471991

>Ping pong child ding dong
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>>168472048
All of them like seriously. Dont worry if you legaly own the game I do to and have been playing it with pirated DLC even online for quite awile.
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>>168471523
is ww1 mod good?
not sure how well hoi3 mechanics can fit into it in regards to diplomacy, is it all event driven?
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>>168472146
>is that HoI3 mod all event driven?
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>>168471148
way too memey lad
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>>168471323
>Free texas, etc.
I mean, freeing Texas is the only real option allowed. And they were already integrated and fought as part of the Mexican-American war, it makes sense for them to stay.

I made it so more people converted to Mormonism by about an extra thousand or so, and Salt Lake City had 10k Yankee pops when I did the Mormon Exodus decision, plus I was having trouble with the natives in those colonial states as America, so the idea was the Mormons just claimed all the unincorporated area and colonial states in the region, and took control, with growing anti-union sentiment in the south (I fucked up as America because I was focusing more on making sure I could play as Deseret instead of actually being America until 1846 so I had already fought new England nationalist rebels and saw a bunch of the south get cored by the CSA) so the US decided to just give the Mexican territory to the Mormons as a satellite nation, but I'm stubborm amd almost reached Great Power status so that plan clearly didn't work out well for the US.
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>>168461558
Common Sense ruined the game. The 1.11.4 beta is the best version
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>No console command to revoke every single title in my realm so I can repair the border carnage caused by 200 years of internal vassal wars because for some retarded reason you can only stop that shit once you become an Empire.
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>>168473371
>having vassals
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>>168473371
>not just going full hitler mode
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>>168473371
Even then it will just get fucked again with them intermarrying.
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>>168473516
Viceroys senpai.
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>>168471523
Here's the Italian Front.

My manpower ran out sometime during the Greek Campaign. My cities are emptied of all available conscripts, and my population will never truly recover from this devastation. My forces no longer actually reinforce, any that get to the battlefield simply die when they get hit by yet another French suicide mission. My country is falling apart, I know it is only a matter of time before the day comes when my troops are finally ground to dust from the constant attacks. But I did get all of Macedonia, so that alone makes it pretty much worth it.

Here's raw troop numbers:
Germany French: 850k
Austria French: 900k
France French: 700k
Italy French: 50k
Austria Italian: 500k
Italy Italian: 400k
French Italian: 550k
Bulgarian Italian: 100k
I am currently sending 130k (Most of the rest of my army) to Libya to hopefully retake what the Ottomans lost.

>>168472146
>is ww1 mod good?
If you're playing as the USA or France, yes. If you're playing as any other country there are a few retarded problems.

If Allies:
-War is too easy if Britain or Russia, usually you can win by late 1915/1916
-Any minor allied nation usually gets screwed over, Balkan minors have a ton of events that are just hot trash. There's even a greek event about UK annexing Cyprus but before that offering it to Greece if they joined the Entente, yet the modder didn't put in an option for them to offer it, making the flavor text really annoying more than anything.
-If you want to form Yugoslavia, too bad, the game insta loses upon using the decision, you can still play as large Serbia though

for Axis:
-Actually really fun, good flavor and very challenging, only problem is the absolutely retarded cores and peace deals. If you enforce "fall of Britain" Germany gets a ton of retarded colonies like Labrador in Canada. No thought put into any non Russian/Romanian "Fall of" war goal
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What is the best version of EU4? I haven't played since 1.12 and honestly don't like how many unnecessary changes have been made to this game through DLC
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>>168473513
Fighting tons of revolt wars is a pain though, since of course they'll all complain and whine.
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>>168473547
Kids will still inherit the counties. Not to mention when you inevitably have to go up to king-tier viceroys they fuck it up even further.
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>>168473876
Counties at least can't ruin a border. Right now I have issues like being 5 years from parts of Armenia becoming de jure Arabia due to shitty vassal wars and inheritances.
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Just learned that horses first evolved in North America before migrating to Asia and then having the natives kill them in NA.

Mod for EU4 adding special snowflake tribe with horses when?
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>>168473665
Honestly i like the most recent version best, what features dont you like?
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>>168474209
Reminder that it is believed the Indo-Europeans were the first people to domesticate the horse.
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>>168473876
just convert to islam senpai. then you can freely revoke duchy titles and freely retract vassals. plus, after taking a duchy, if they have more than one county you can plot to revoke the rest. truly the best religion for empire management.
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>>168474383
I felt that the game was complete after Art of War, and now it feels like a completely different game. The game feels over-complicated now with tons of stuff that make little to no impact, or make the game too easy such as estates. But then again I haven't played it in a while so I could be totally wrong
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>>168475019
>Islam
I have spent those 200 years first reclaiming my rightful clay from the Muslims, and then eradicating the religion from the face of the earth. Islam exists now only in Abyssinia, and soon not even there.

So no.
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>>168475318
your loss my dude. better start stacking up those tyranny penalties.
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>>168475020
Yeah, the longer a game is in development the more stuff is added that isnt directly linked to the original game, it is kinda bloated. For every new feature that makes the game easier though like estates, they add one or two like corruption and balance between great powers to make the game harder. IIRC its harder nowadays to do a world conquest then ever before. The next DLC im looking forward to because its adding mandate of heaven and chiona mechanics similar to HRE, and a custom diplomatic religious and political landscape to japan. These sort of updates that make countries across the world different and interesting to play are really nice desu, while still not bloating the core experience in europe
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>>168475020
IMO the most game-changing thing is development and the fort system. Forts are stupid since they don't work and every time they try to change or fix them the AI shits the bed because it was never meant to handle them. Developing provinces, on the other hand, is good and simulates investing in improving lands. Chinese Renaissances are stupid, however.

If you do want to play a more recent version you're going to have to tolerate fort bullshit. I'd go with 1.17 and disable Cossacks DLC; it doesn't have the stupid "China gets Colonialism and Global Trade, ergo Europe is permanently trapped in a pre-gunpowder era until 1650" or the "click once every 20 years for free 40trad general and 150 adm/dip/mil mana, and enjoy 20% more tax and manpower as a passive bonus" but still has the development and corruption.
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>>168476960
lad no mana is free mana, you either need to spend some cash or prestige/legitimacy on them or suffer the maluses of negative opinions which are probably worse then the mana itself
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>>168477234
It is free mana though.
>costs 15 prestige tops when you can easily get double that from a war against a rival or from advisors/events/ideas
>money is basically infinite unless you're 3dev OPM
>legitimacy has always been a meme stat, only republican tradition matters
>negative opinions only reduce income or manpower when money is free and mercs are a thing
>coups can be avoided by taking and re-giving land to reset the timers
>increases trade power and reduces dev cost making chink Renaissances even easier
it's only not free on a technicality, none of the 'costs' actually matter in the slightest. Not to mention that hordes can get free horsestacks and mudslimes can get tech discounts. It's stupidly overpowered.
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What do I do now?
>Ottomans just ate that big chunk of Ukraine and Crimea
>before that ate Qara Qoyunlu
>now crushing Austria + PU Hungary with ally France
>will undoubtedly turn on me next
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>>168477720
>horses
lad if you are still a horde by 1550 your done for, horde unity just ruins all your conquests and stops you from blobbing in the slightest, hordes were also stronger then any eastern europeans in the 15th century
In the 3 games ive played since institutions, not a single one has spawned outside of europe
enlightenment did spawn in iceland once, but i think the latest update added more conditions so it wouldnt spawn on islands
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>>168478073
Attack them, stupid. While they're busy getting exhausted fighting the french and being stuck in Europe, you take a large chunk of their lands, negating whatever they will take in Europe, especially since AI loves to give provinces 100 autonomy.
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>>168478241
H-Here I go!
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>>168478073
watch for when they get the conquest of levant mission, it will give them claims on all your shit, it is doubtful they will declare war before that
Try allying persia and hope for the best? normal anti-ottoman strats rely on beating them before they get eastern anatolia and crimea, best of luck anon!
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>>168478337
show religion lad
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>>168478337
FUG
>>168478392
They had that while I was carving up the Mamlukes, can they get it back?

Persia hates me because of some wars I fought in the Arabian Peninsula and Horn of Africa where they were on the other side.
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>>168478192
lad if you thought for a minute the horses thing applies after earlygame you're a bona-fide retard or have been watching too many arumba Oirat meme campaigns. In the 15 century the free horses are great, though. They even come with a shitty general if you don't have one or rolled the fabled 1/0/0/0.
No shit AI can never spawn institutions, AI is Paradox Quality Standard™ batshit levels of retarded. If they weren't, they'd be easily competing with the Euros for them. Paradox are fucking retarded.
>Oh westernization needs a total overhaul
>let's remove it instead and replace it with a mechanic that can leave Europe in the dark ages and Asia in enlightenment
>oh fuck that was a stupid idea, let's add a fuckton of clauses so only players can and will spawn institutions outside Europe
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>>168478494

Ottomans immediately peaced out of the Austria war once I dow'd them, so that was a bummer.
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>>168478813
RIP. It looks like they released part of Serbia?
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>Free
>American
>Empire
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>>168478901
I don't think so. I only got to see this part of the map just recently.

I'm thinking about savescumming but I don't think it will make any difference, just delay the inevitable.
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>>168478993
>No Virginia
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>>168479092
Yeah, and the capital turned out to be Dallas. What the fuck happened that Dallas became the heart of the fascist American empire? I could at least understand Austin or Houston, but fucking Dallas?
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>>168479039
You'll be fine, just stall them as long as possible by defending some mountainous fort you have by throwing a shitton of mercs at them while they siege. Eventually they'll run out of manpower and be left with only merc infantry, which you can then use your healthy standing army with cannons to kill their merc stacks and get a white peace.
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>>168479039
rest in peace anon, you made a noble attempt
an anon did a successful ethiopia run here a few months ago, dont remember excatly what he did in regards to ottomans
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>>168479405
Nah I'm done with that, maybe I'll try again later.
>>168479459
I think my main problem was that I expanded really fast into Mamlukes because they were much weaker than I expected. Probably should have just gone into the Horn of Africa and south and built development before I went north.
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>>168478993
I wish upper texas wasn't so straight. You either have an uneven, natural looking border, or you have neat and trim, perfectly straight ones. Upper texas prevents both, and there's nothing the CSA can do about it short of taking all of America.
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>>168425036
Start as an irish count/duke.

Ireland is pretty much tutorial island. Your goal is to become the kind of ireland.
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>>168469974
Dump allll monarch points and don't stop till it's 50
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The Chinese refused a treaty of friendship, prompting the Spanish state to enforce an additional treaty port on the rice farmers. The state has identified the following ports as being desirable

>Formosa (Tea production)
>Kwangchon (Minor amount of silk)
>Ningbo (Cotton for texture industry)

Gonna be a hard fought battle here, since there are only a few additional support troops in the Philippines. Most of the army was still being restructured after bringing Latin America back into the spanish fold and re-exerting spain as a Great Power. (The insult from the Peruvians had knocked us from Great powerdom)
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What's your favorite race in Age of Wonders III?
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>>168482837
>Gonna be a hard fought battle here
Are the Chinese westernized or something
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>>168478993
>HoI4
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>>168482837
Take Formosa. Then use it as a base to take Qingdao and cuck the Germans out of historical ports.
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>>168483054
I agree that grand strategy shouldn't necessarily be just paradox games. However, Civ is not even close to be grand strategy. I don't know what TW domlll GalCiv are, but if they are like civ then neither are these grand strategy.
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>>168436487
We got this

Syndicalism shall reign!

>>168439082
Imfuckingplying

Majority (thin one, but still) for me the German Empire wins.

It comes mostly down to doctrine and luck and AI.
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Guys, if Hungarians and Finns are supposed to be Asians, why don't they look it?
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>>168483682
(they do)
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>>168483182

Im still well behind on techs and limited in the amount of soldiers I can deploy. Managed to get a breakthrough and caught successive Chinese armies by surprise through fake offensives, luring them into a two army pincer. (Did tag swap, they are 55% westernization which is worrying)

>>168483302

Can't because dont have radio telegraphy. So really the choices are between Ningbao (about to do a quick scan around to see if any areas I am settling support cotton in mass) or Kwanchaon (to support a luxury clothes industry.. barely at all. It's cute because it's near Macau mostly)
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>>168483360
Most games on that list fit better with 4x strategy games or belong on /twg/

That being said gsg is basically just a shorthabd for any paradox game. Since noone else really wants to do stuff in the genre. There are a couple others but none of them have the same scope as paradox games and have poor player numbers
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>>168483981

Actually had no clue this was a treaty port. Would be cute to take to settle next to the British again. Not finished checking cotton access. Not gonna take Egypt, Brits already there at the Suez Canal. Might as well draw up my scouted borders for Africa anyways
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>>168483682
hungary is ethnically european
a very small population of magyars imposed their language on the native population and avars
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>>168473613
>Axis
It's Central Powers you uncultured swine.
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>China westernized in 1870
How is this even possible?
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>>168484453

I said 55% westernization nerd!

Seriously conflicted here though. Ningbos cotton would serve me in the short term. I could later organize Somailland or something.. But the silk!
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>>168484717
Just colonise Malaysia or Indochina if you want silk. Take Ningbo and come back in a second Chinese cuckening war if you really desperately want something.
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Huh... had no idea this was a thing, if I make states in British India, I lose the Indian Raj modifier. Oh well, its been my goal for the game to make as many provinces British culture and integrated into the metropolitan UK as possible.
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Pelley is literally this timeline's Hitler. Pretty based.
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Socialists gained a hand in the upperhouse. Question is, what reform to pass to placate the masses?

Schools?
Healthcare?
Or maybe send all the angry fuckers overseas to work our farms?
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Cotton, Silk or Tea?
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>>168484717
>I said 55% westernization nerd!
I mean in my game.
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>>168484864

Oh. Yeah I decided on Ningbo. I will eventually add a silk producer to the empire, but that's more a long-term goal. Definitely needed the cotton for my industry. Researching cracking so I can produce dyes if need be as well.

I am going to changeowner my Portuguese possessions in Indonesia to the Netherlands as part of an imagined deal being made with them swapping their lands in Guayana for it and the British my Gambian possessions. (Maybe my Guayan posessions then as well)
Once I get south America puppets in my sphere I will probably influence Brazil to pull them out of whoever sphere they are in and reduce them from Friendly and then send all my good little colonial puppets to go puppet Brazil as well.

>>168485519
Pretty much that exact order
>Cotton for your textile industry
>Silk for them fancy clothes
>Acquire a portion of China for Tea late game

>>168485694
Interesting...
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what did paradox mean by this?
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>>168483682
The same reason turks don't look asian.
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>>168485827
What's the problem?
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>>168486010
Turks look more Asian than they do European desu.
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Can you only go wide in these games?
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>>168486112
Let me rephrase myself. It's the same reason why turks are caucasoids rather than mongoloid.
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Fuck, I have a treaty with the USA that the game forces me not to break so I literally can't do jack to stop the Grossamerikums about to happen.
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>>168486246
Raping enslaved Christians?
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>Have transportation reform
>none of my pops are moving
>ANYWHERE

they aren't immigrating, nor are they moving between provinces nationwide. Something wrong?
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>>168486171
No, save for EU4 and EU3 in which you can do nothing but blob.
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>>168485361
Always healthcare first
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>>168486654

Can't change that now. Didn't even save at the time like a retard.
>>168486571
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>>168486493
>hurr guyz the genetic make up of anatolia actually changed to a considerable extent, it's not like the people living there are the same people that lived there for thousands of years but are just practicing another religion durrrrrr

Retard.
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>>168485361
>child labor
lel
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>>168486803
In ancient times, they were Anatolians, related to Greeks. Now they are Arabs, and not related to Greeks at all. A side-by-side comparison makes this clear.
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>>168486617
In which game can you go really tall the most?
Or at least turtle half the game.
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Two Sicily Kongo-bongo?
Would keep Africa clean and ensure Italy has a colony.
Currently they are in French sphere, because I lost GP-dom like I said before. They are #1 priority after getting my satelites back.
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>>168487182
Vicky II, I'd say.
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yeehaw
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>>168487005
You're a fucking idiot that doesn't know a thing about genetics. Lay off the /pol/ memes.
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>>168487604
>Two peoples that look nothing alike MUST be related!
That's not how it works senpai.
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>>168423912
Any reason I might want to dismantle one of these forts?
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There must be a fucked up flag in here somewhere. Can I fix this?

>Argentina when a monarchy
>Always reverts to -200 relations if it goes above zero
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>>168487205
You're getting pink map, right? if so, yes to sicilian Africa
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>>168487005
This shit doesn't just magically happen, mong. There wasn't some large-scale Arab migration into Anatolia – what entity would have organizeed that, anyway? Not even modern-day Turks are Turkic. They are not Greeks either, but the same prehistoric people who lived there forever. Later conquered just blandad upp to various small degrees.
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>>168488484
>There wasn't some large-scale Arab migration into Anatolia – what entity would have organizeed that, anyway?
Muslims had been attacking the Byzantine Empire for ages, anon, chipping away at it slowly and importing their people into their realms.
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Pretty aesthetic borders so far honestly, conquered the Teutonic Lowlands and installed and organized my relative his own geatlander colonizer paulician kingdom. The Hospitallers are sweating. Meanwhile in the north, the Cumbric tribes have finally reunited the old kingdom of the Isles.
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Thoughts?
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>>168487663
kek, you're delusional

turks just muslim anatolians and the only thing you can do about it is to be butthurt
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Is DDRJake, dare I say it, /ourguy/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwOfM5xUfGk
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How do I play a Norse -> Norman -> English game in HIP?
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>>168488596
You really are a retard. As I've already said, lay off the /pol/ memes and read a fucking book once for fucks sake.
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>>168489227
>All those Arab invaders totally didn't settle in their conquered lands, nope.
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>>168489332
>10,000 arab merceneries changing the genetic structure of regions populated by millions

made me think
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>>168489332
>arab invaders
>turks

Retard.
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>>168489486
>The rules who hired the mercenaries ruled over no peoples with which to populate their conquests.

>>168489543
>He thinks the Byzantine Empire fell in one single swoop from Turks and hadn't been torn to bits first by Arab conquests then had the remained chewed on by the Fourth Crusade
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>>168488476

I am not sure if I can trigger pink map as Spain.
But yes, I am connecting Angola to Mozambique. Taking Kenya+Uganda, and Cameroon and Gabon as my colonies. Taking the Tangier from Morocoo but gonna cede the rest to france or just changeowner it to another Europoor power. Prussia took Eteria.. So hopefully they take Sudan/Ethiopia as a colony. Probably will give Romania Zanzibar if they are secondary power since they are quite big in my game.
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>>168489110
>conquer normandy or brittany
>wait until their Norman
>convert to Norman
>ask the pope to invade England
>invade England
>wait until they become English
>convert to English
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>>168489629
Look, you dumb bugger, literally every scientific research points to the fact that genetically anatolia is for the most part virtually unchanged. This isn't up for debate, you fucking ignoramus.
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>>168490597
>literally every scientific research points to the fact that genetically anatolia is for the most part virtually unchanged
If you want to make this claim, then post sources senpai.
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>>168490362
Which Norse character should I choose?
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>>168490834
Hæsteinn, convert to christianity after you have taken all of brittany because their will be massive catholic uprisings.
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>>168490680
I'm not the one posting outlandish claims. It's common knowledge that the majority of modern turks stem from anatolia, and the remainder hails from central asia. A simple google search will answer all your questions.
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>>168472135
baka poor fags
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>demand Thessalia
>raise a stink about it
>UK sides with the roaches
>i am in their sphere
>negations fail
>they are at war with me
ok
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>>168488646
>anime face mod
i-is it any good. i'm asking for a friend heh..
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>>168491801
don't duck out of this, just prove your point otherwise you look like an irrational piece of shit
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>>168492267
It's shit. It's remind me with that shitty anime mudslime propaganda.
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>>168492267
Could have been better.
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>page 9
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>>168492342

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=genetic+makeup+of+anatolia
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>>168493885
>mac
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>>168492267
>>168492472
Speaking of anime portraits does anyone remember where this one came from? I remember someone posting this one and saying they'd post the mod it came from before, did he ever deliver?
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>>168493992
Horry shiet this one looks even worse.
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And finished. Last war ongoing before the game ended was Japan wanting to puppet Beiyang China. It was winning too.
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>>168493973
Even worse, I'm on a phone.
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>>168493992
This?
https://mega.nz/#!5VgwjZpJ!_dDbIQ5zvm6dmP6AMOE2Xd8cmsm8Fr_XSm3La8XIQUQ

>>168494030
I used that because it made everyone look almost exactly the same. Couldn't fucking stand the ten thousand fatasses in vanilla and the other anime portraits one looks like complete fucking ass.
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>>168494107
Here are the pops. I managed to get at least 5 states in India, all five about 40% British.
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>>168494145
I don't have an appropriate reaction image so have this one.
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>>168493992
>25k gold as a tribal
But how
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>>168494178
ty
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>>168494193
And here's GPs at the end. Both me and Russia maintained absolute monarchies until the end. Everyone else except France and the USA are constitutional monarchies. USA is the only fascist GP and both fascism and communism only got popular in minor Balkan and South American nations.

CSA actually has more pops than the USA but never really got up to GP.
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>Playing HOI4
>Using road to 56 mod
>Be Assyrian Empire
>Turkey declares war on me
>Have bigger & more powerful army
>Only held back by mountains
>Suddenly Iran declares war as well
>Move main army to blitzkrieg through iran
>Annex Iran
>Turkey joins Allies

Fuck my life. I hate how all wars in this end up so completely total and the peace conferences are so pants on head retarded.
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>>168494686
>>Playing HOI4
Stopped reading there.
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>>168494686
Why do people torture themselves with Goy IV?
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>tfw you just want to be a degenerate but you can't because you have actual work and responsibilities now

I've been wanting to play DH all week but I can't because I've got a major project deadline on Friday.

Cherish your degeneracy, /gsg/. You might kill yourself over being a loser because of it one day, but you're at least able to play videogames when you want to.
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>>168492267
better than paradox faces anyway
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Do I want to play as Piast in old gods start date or do I want to make the viking version or Britannia?
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>>168495082
That isn't saying much.
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>>168494686
>playing and taking a pre alpha game seriously
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>>168488257
make some events to increase migration/pop growth in the Americas lad
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>>168494981
Yet you still found the time to post in this shitty general.

sasuga
>>
Someone explain event spawned in CK2 to me, please. How can a guy with 100 prestige and 500 levies instantly jump up to 4,5k levies. Where does he pull those 4k from without any prestige? I thught the event for tribal armies cost 500 prestige? Is the AI just cheating?
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Should I let the copts keep their faith?
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Does the EU4 to Vic2 converter work properly?
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>>168492267
I just wish there was better HIP support
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>>168496540
Is this imported from CK2 or something, how the fuck?
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>thought I bought the DLC
>actually bought the content pack

t-th-thanks paradox...
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>>168497072
>buying their jewish shit after early CK2 and especially after content packs became a thing
ANON WHAT THE F U C K ARE YOU DOING, I S E R I O U S L Y HOPE YOU'VE LEARNED YOUR LESSON
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>>168497072
Dumb goy.
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>>168497015
No, there is one zoro province at the start of the game. I just forced zealot rebels and let them enforce their demands.
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Tips and tricks for playing as Putin and the Third Roman Empire in CWE?
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>>168497201
>>168497251

how do I pirate Mare nostrum and have it work on steam
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>>168497468
>pirate
It's like you want Johan to starve to death
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>>168497842

>"don't buy DLC!"
>"Buy the DLC"!

Confused here.
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>>168497954
Maybe it's different people with conflicting interests.
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>>168497468
Same way you pirate all the DLC and the game
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>>168497468
1. Read the OP hastebin
2. Make an account with a throwaway email
3. Use the CreamAPI crack
4. ???
5. Profit, and also fuck off with your achievement autism
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>>168498161

What's the point of playing a game if you don't have achievements to show for it?
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>>168498346
To have fun?
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>>168497373

Is this Vicky? What mod?
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>>168498408
I don't understand...
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>>168498512
Fuck off hiroshimoot
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>>168498346
You will achieve nothing by playing the game.
It is not bad as tv or shitpostiong as a hobby, but it is not good like playing an instrument or riding a bike.
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>>168467371
this was awful
not in a good way
>>
>not learning the worlds geography by heart through grand strategy
>not researching countries histories after playing to further enrich the experience

it's like you want to be dumb
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>>168499921

That's about the only thing I'm grateful that they exist for.

It's information that's got me laid exactly zero times.
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>>168500154
Stop thinking with your dick.
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What should I pick as my first Ideas? sorry for the shitty third world tier monitor
My king is 5/3/3 and my heir is 4/4/5 btw
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It is happening

Reconquista NOW
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>>168501297
naval
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your protesting shall get you nowhere but back under my heel
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>>168501338
What the fuck is Chile doing?

Destroy that at once, lad.
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>>168501391
shit forgot pic
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>>168501297
SUPERIOR
RELIGION
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>>168501297
Naval.
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Can anyone other than the US peacefully annex Hawaii or do I have to militarily invade?
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BACK IN CUSCO AGAIN
why does this make me so hard
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>>168501385
>>168501638
done
>>168501625
but anon everyone around me is the same religion as me
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>>168501750
>done
Absolute madman!
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indeed
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Hmmm finally we may have a stable ally in the middle east
In other news, my king fell ill and died and now my country is going to fall apart
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>>168501886
h-hey at least we won
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>>168501338
>all North Andeans, South Andeans and Platines get -100 relations with Peru and +50 relations with you
What's the fucking excuse for this
Historically speaking they all sided with Peru diplomatically, with Chile even intervening in the war.
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>>168502227
I don't know, I also don't know how the other south american countries disagreeing with spain's military influence there gives spain a justification to set up new viceroys there.

I guess it's ultimately that having all of south america as vassals isn't super valuable, it doesn't really do that much for you
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>>168501661
Yes you just need land in Polynesia.
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>>168502547
HPM really needs to rework Latin America. Shame he won't do this as he's afraid of some memers bullying him like when he added some minimal flavour to Paraguay.
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>>168502803
he said several times he will go back to it and finish the paraguayan war lad
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>>168502547
Fuckin neat, I need to play Spain now. Is it only for Carlist Spain?
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>>168502880
He's been saying that for over an year though.
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>>168502993
which doesn't mean he won't do it, just that after all the flavor he did for sa he wants to work in something else
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>>168502883
I don't think so, but I wanted to do carlists because their facist flag is cool looking, much better than the SPA one, and I want to go fascist. also this flag is cooler too.

>>168502803
I don't know I mean there is a lot of good flavor and shit already, it was a good idea and fun/clever to have rosas in argentina be able to declare himself monarch or do whatever else you as the player want to do with him, the whole thing works really well and it's fun to play around there but only early game
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>>168503107
>still didn't fix Bolivia
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>>168502547
Do you get events like that for all of south america?

Also puppet Brazil while you are at it. You did annex Portugal after all.
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>>168503191
yes, brazil will be puppeted but they were helping me take over all their neighbors in the meantime
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Do I ally Mexico and go to war with the United States to take their colonies when the Free States' truce with the ends or do I invade Mexico now, then invade America later?
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>>168503457
>Encourage Soldiers 29.35%
>>
>badboy = +25
>war_exhaustion = 100
>treasury = -1000000
>any_pop = { militancy = 8 consciousness = 8 }
If I dropped this as an event for a great power how fucked are they?
Anything else I can add to mess them up and shatter them into wee states?
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>Playing CK2
>Through conquest became King of Denmark
>Elective Monarchy
>Try to change to primogeniture
>Need to rase administration and/or crown authority laws
>I can't see any of these in my screens
>Even though I'm the king of Denmark
What am I even supposed to do here? Can someone please help me?
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>>168503274
Nice but also:

>Do you get events like that for all of south america?
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>>168503670
>can't find the administration and/or crown authority laws screen

Sorry but there is no cure for autism.
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>>168503715
not all of it, bolivia never complained so I never got a cb against them. but everyone else did so they got viceroy'd

not sure how the AI decides if it's going to challenge me or not. also I think it's only south america not like mexico and central america
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>>168503843
It's not so much that I can't find those options, as much as they just don't show up. They're "missing" from the administration tab.
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Wew that was actually kinda fun. R8 my gross Elysiums.
>>
How do you steal America's immigrants?
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>>168504796
>not taking back Constantinople and Rome

What is that in the Balkans and Anatolia, anyway? Greece?
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>>168504904

That's "Constantinia", my vassal which I created after removing Turks.
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>>168504796
>>168505018
Where did the turks move their capital?
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>>168505425

Mosul, one of the last Turkish provinces left in their empire.
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>>168503670
I think I didn't explain the problem correctly which might cause some understanding. I know where the "law" tab is (with the mallet), and I know how to under normal circumstances increase crown authority, advance the feudal system etc. But I just can't see it right now. I tried switching from elective monarchy to gavelkind but it changes nothing. I also already have three squares of legalism tech so I should be able to see these options, but I can't. Any ideas why? It's pretty frustrating, I feel like the options should be there but I just can't find them. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>168505670
*some misunderstandings
>>
>>168505670
tl;dr
>>
What should be my next campaign, lads? Bonus if there's any cheevos
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>>168505903
Play a real gsg kiddo
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>>168505670

Scroll your mouse wheel retard
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>>168505903
>cheevos
Retard spotted. Outta here.
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>>168505903
conquer the planet as ryuku and convert it to totemism.
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>>168504796
Fuck's going on at Panama?
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>>168505930
EU4 is my favorite gsg, whether you wanna call it gsg or not. I'm tired of ugly-looking vic and ugly-looking hoi3 (hoi4 is boring).

I'm ready for your suggestions, lads.


>>168506054
That's a bit beyond my skillset.
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>>168506101
>That's a bit beyond my skillset.
Conquer Constantinople as the Ottomans.
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>>168504796
WE
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>>168506210
That's tricky, what if Riga gets there first?
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>>168506323
Annex kent as a base of operations to strike riga. Then colonize all of south america and feed it to your rigan vassal. Then annex riga so they move their capital to south america.
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>>168505670
Can you post a fucking screenshot instead of shitty image macros?
>>
God fucking damn it

I'm trying to vassalize Brandenburg as the TO early on so I can have a space marine vassal but Poland allies them EVERY. SINGLE. RUN.

This fucking AI can read my god damn mind and its frustrating
>>
Atatürk
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>>168507454
was brown and not based
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>>168507454
black and acidic
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>>168507454
white and ph14
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>>168502803
Most of all, PBC and Paraguay gets DOW day-1 so the "historical" aspect is all fucked up
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>>168497373
just Make Russia Great Again
>>
Look I have passed all reforms, have a liberal government with open borders and full citizenship policies, have enacted Homestead Act and have the Statue of Liberty. I should be getting at least 10k immigrants, but I am getting just 1k. You, HPM guy, are shit at doing mods.
>>
So let me get these games straight...

I tinker with a few sliders every so often and try to get as much territory as possible?

Aren't these just a less interesting version of 4x games? Why are the tech trees so small? Why are there so few variations in units? Why are the resource management, infrastructure, espionage and building elements so simple?
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>>168509761
So simple compared to what game?
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>>168509761
You should try playing them first and then you will see how easy 4x games are.
>>
>>168509831
Cities Skylines gives you much more choice in infrastructure, therefore it is a better Grand Strategy Game.
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>>168509831
For example, the Civ games up to and including IV, including mods like Master of Mana. Alpha Centauri. Aurora.

>>168509887
>easy
Who said anything about the games being easy or hard?
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>>168509243
>>168509761
LIQQY BABIES BTFO
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>>168509761
You don't try to get as much territory as possible you fucking retard. I mean yeah you can treat them like score games if you want but they're much better if you sort of roleplay with them and think up cool historical scenarios, and think about what it would be like in your universe etc
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>>168510037
I believe it was insinuated by your questions.
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>>168509761
I recommend playing the games. Also if you want complex war crap I suggest looking at HOI 3.
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>>168510094
>they're much better if you sort of roleplay with them and think up cool historical scenarios

What is the upshot of playing to see what happens if Germany doesn't start WW2? How do you cash that out in terms of interesting things that can happen in a game that couldn't possibly model the number of social and political hypothetical events needed to make that interesting.

You might as well read what-if history books.
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>>168510480
brown
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>>168510562
HOW WILL LIQUOR BARONS EVER RECOVER?
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>>168510480
acid
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>>168510376
I've played Vic 2, CK2, EU 3, HOI2, AOD, and DH. As far as I'm concerned, Vic 2 and DH are the only games that barely competent as strategy games.

For a better understanding of the problems with Paradox games, see this blog post:

http://t-a-w.blogspot.ie/2013/07/how-not-to-design-game-mechanics.html

This guy gets it as far as even one mechanic in paradox grand strategy games go, but actually the problems with Paradox grand strategy design philosophy apply across the board.
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>>168512495
>t. Tomasz Wegrzanowski
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>>168512495
t. blog plug pro
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>>168512495
>ck2 has shit combat
No shit dude.
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>>168512495
CK2 has the fapping and roleplay appeal, but EU4 and EU3 has literally nothing but blobbing. Its a big reason why no one plays EU3 as soon as EU4 came out. EU4 is a EU3 with some new features and some old features removed.
>>
yeehaw
>>
If France is the junior partner in a PU, does it still inherit the french parts of burgundy?
>>
>>168513667
>Its a big reason why no one plays EU3 as soon as EU4 came out
Are you fucking serious anon, were you actually around for EU4's release? Nobody at all was playing it until 2-3 expansions in and even the EU3 was still regular until mid-2015.
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>>168516425
I mean that EU-series in general really isn't popular around here and for good reason. They've been blobbing sims in which you have nothing to do. At least with EU3 you had mods that fixed borders, but even the best map mods for EU4 haven't made good borders that change up provinces as needed because of muh MP.
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>>168516542
EU3 was pretty popular way back when though?
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>>168512495
>problems with Paradox grand strategy design philosophy
How about...like...woah...you play games that you enjoy?
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>>168516613
Incomparable to Vicky II's popularity. Vicky and DH have been the most popular games in this general. EU4 only got a brief surge from the latest DLC but that lasted for a week, now its back to Vicky.
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>>168516797
No, I don't think so. And EU3 was ~just~ below V2 in its popularity. Look at this thread, plenty of EU4 posts.
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Which Muslim leader would be the easiest to start off at? I just completed my first full playthrough (Jorvik) and I'm ready to try fighting for Allah
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>>168516686
>>168516686
t. Johan
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>>168518820
just make sure you're sayyid for the permanent hereditary +5 relations with all muslims.
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>>168516797
V2 has long-lasting popularity but the EU games tend to have spurts of activity where they are by far the most posted thing here.
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What should muh co-prosperity sphere look like lads and how should I handle china? I thought about taking the coast, but it'd make for ugly borders without changeownering
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I've only played Viccy 2 and am tired of it, what should I play next that is a complete product?
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i really enjoy where this is heading
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>>168521615
Life is Strange
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>>168521615
Clash of Clans.
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Alright lads, CK2 question. I'm the king of The Reach (independent). On The Iron Throne a three year old girl (who's my niece and of House Tyrell as well) has just been made queen. I can betroth my only son and heir, and and her. Matrilineal marriage not needed. What happens when they get married? Do the kingdoms merge? And how? Will The Reach be absorbed or vice versa?
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>>168521615
Stellaris
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Should I be ashamed for enjoying these types of videos

https://youtu.be/R6X1taVfgh8
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>>168522886
go plug your vids elsewhere lad
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Have you realised that the map of Victoria 2 is wrong? The Americas are not in their correct position, but actually more to the north. New Zealand is at the same latitude than Tierra del Fuego in the game, but in real life Tierra del Fuego is almost 10 degrees to the south of New Zealand's southernmost point.

Also, the northernmost part of the 48 contiguous American States is at the same latitude than Scotland in the game. But in real life, the northernmost part of the 48 states is at the same latitude than Southern France/Northern Italy(quite a big difference)
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>>168523038
It's been up years, not my video
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Are the WWII events supposed to fire for the restored German Empire path in A Communist Germany for DH? It's 1939 and the only event I've gotten is the anschluss with Austria.
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>>168523078
Heh sure bud
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>>168523061
Autism

Why does this game attract so many autismos
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>>168523061
Yeah there's no map projection, they just drew their way through.
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>>168523171
Heh whatever kid....
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>>168523204
>based in history
>extremely high skill floor
>deep systems
>super slow
>basically you just stare at a map
>ugly as shit
>no preset storyline or ebin esport multiplayer; have to carve out your own fun

Gee I wonder

gsg is like the most autistic genre
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>>168523204
It's not autism, I am a professional cartographer(in the making). I can't ignore this kind of mistakes
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>>168523385
Pls make a mapmod
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>>168523340
>>extremely high skill floor
>>deep systems
>this is what liqqy babies believe
haha lmao
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>>168523385
I'll slap your tight little ass if you ever speak to me like that again cartographer scum
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>>168523385
pretty sure they had to fit it into a neat rectangle so they adjusted it so. Otherwise you end up with a chode South America like in EU4 and HOI4, or funky shapes everywhere else like in HOI3 and EU3
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>>168523559
Did you get floor and ceiling confused? Liqqy 2 does have a high skill floor since you must be at least this autistic to ride:
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Is HoI4 playable yet
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>>168522731
Don't quote me on this, but....
When they come of age and marry, your son will leave your court and live with his wife.
Best guess is that when you die, your son inherits the Reach title and your demesne, as since he is the Iron Throne's wife, becomes a vassal to her.Their kid, your grandson, should inherit everything his mom and dad (your son) has. I'm not familiar with the GOT mod, so this is all assuming the Iron Throne isan empire rank and the Reach is a king rank, but from portraits I'm guessing not.

If both Empire rank he leaves court when they marry but returns to run Reach when you die, and their son inherits two fucking empires. So it and make your grandson the luckiest bastard alive
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>>168521178
Take every treaty port you can. Also make Manchuria a puppet. Annex Indochina, the Philippines, and Borneo at least from Indonesia.
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>>168523846
I'm not him, but I always thought vic2 was the simplest of all the paradox gsg games, apart from hoi4. I never understood why some think of it as a particularly difficult game.
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>>168523926
Thanks m8. I think both kingdoms are of equal rank. The IR is considerably bigger, but The Reach has consideraably higher prestige. And bigger army. But maybe because she will be of higher rank when they marry, my son will be her bitch. I dunno, will play it out for science.
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>>168524920
Your right civ series is the hardest
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>>168524920
To actually learn it requires dedicated autism. EU4, just blob, CK2, learn to play the marriage game, HoI4, just let the game play itself, Liqqy 2, learn what the pie charts mean, learn the pie charts are largely irrelevant, then learn to build liquor factories. That's 3 whole dedicated steps of autism required to learn the game, while the others require 0-1.5 steps.
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>>168525282
Interesting that you think so. Learning those things require nothing of the sorts like autism. Vic2 had a lighter learning curve than eu4 and ck2. Or at least on the same level. At least that's how I feel about it. Maybe you think vic2 is actually complicated, I dunno. But I sure don't. And I don't understand why anyone would.
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>>168525653
>autism = complexity
wew lad. Also you misinterpreted my post entirely. I said Liqqy 2 has a learning curve. EU4, CK2 have a slight bump. HoI4 is flatlined.
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>>168525901
You can call it autism or complexity or whatever you want. I just disagree that vic2 is harder to learn than those two other titles. If you were talking about hoi3 I would understand, but vic2? Huh.. People are different I guess.
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>>168526248
let me ask you this, then, what about EU4 or CK2 make them more complex to learn than Liqqy 2? I can kind of see the intricacies of subjects and inheritance of CK2 being tough to crack initially, but once you have that down the game becomes easy.
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>>168526451
There are more minmaxing details to learn in those games. You don't need those minmaxing things for the most part, so you can paint the map just fine from the get go. But there is more to learn because there are more mechanics. I felt like I had everything down with vic2 much faster.
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Arsenal of Democracy vs. Darkest Hour?

Pros and Cons of each?
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Hey what are some good vic2 mods to play?
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So I'm trying to host a Multiplayer Game for me and a friend in CK2.

Problem is, i cannot select any character in the Lobby. Like, completely unable. I can click on everything else, like settings and start dates, but i cannot select anything to play as.

Anyone know a fix? I have already gone as far as reinstalling the game but even that didn't work.
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>>168527379
hpm
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Realpolitiks torrent where?
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>>168527379
robmod
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What a retarded event.
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£23.44 for hoi4 worth it?
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>>168525653
How much do you know about Vic2? Do you ever check the trade tab, for instance? Or mess around with the pops' cultures, religions and ideologies through the (admittedly very limited) game mechanics? And what kind of nation do you play as?
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>>168527468
Please, anyone who might have any idea what the problem is? In singleplayer i can select a character just fine, but when i host a game in MP it's just not working. My friend tried aswell and he couldn't select one either.
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>>168528628
no
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>>168528684
Lad, I've been playing vic2 for more than 5 years.
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Should I abandon the east bank of the Rhine? Things are looking rough
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>>168529364
why not
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>>168528576
Stop being decadent
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>>168529714
Just download it from the link in the OP and try it and you'll see why.
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>>168529503

Fortify along the river, let things stalemate, let organization recover since you've been on the offensive, wait for Germany to focus on other fronts, crush them.

>losing part of the Maginot

Are you even trying
>>
>>168530375
dude check the date it's 1915
I think it's a doomed cause honestly, but I'm not sure how valuable the positions are anyway.
>>
>>168530375
Look at the date
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>>168458292
I'm considering buying this. Can I lead shitty mcthirdworld to become a glorious superpower rivaling that of best korea?
>>
>tfw no Centrope tag
>>
>>168531192
>unironnically being a Belgian
>>
>>168531192
whoa someone checked out my thread
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>>168527339
pls respond
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>>168506101
>V2 and HoI3 are ugly

all 3D maps made by Paradox are ugly, your opinion is objectively incorrect
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>>168532092
Every paradox game before ck2 looks ugly even by indi kids standard. They admitted it themselves.
>>
>>168532092
The completely flat mountains on the Vic2 map look really bad. Still better than Play-Doh 4, though.
>>
>>168532386
>implying ck2 looks good
what the fuck?
>>
>>168501297
W A T
M O D
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>>168532092
L O L
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>>168532914
New thread when???
>>
>>168532689
>implying ck2 looks good
No such imply. But it looks tolerable. Meanwhile eu3 looks eyebleeding.
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>>168532386
>>168532464
I guess even the devs don't know how good their games looked before CK2. CK2 was the harbinger of horrible maps in Paradox games, and ever since it's release, all maps look like playdough and construction paper.

EU3 MEIOU and V2, along with with HoI2 DH, look awesome.
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>>168533027
You really think this looks awesome??
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>>168533276
do you really think this looks awesome?

EU3 looks way nice.
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>>168533027
Sengoku looks pretty nice IMO, maybe a bit too yellow. EU: Rome isn't too bad either.

But if I had to choose between HoI3/Vic2 and EU4/CK2/HoI4, I would definitely pick the former.
>>
R&I make the new thread already holy shit we still have like 50 posts to go.

Slippin man.
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>>168533508
It's not perfect or anything, but it's better. The worst thing about eu4 is its water. But with darker water mod, it looks very good imo.
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So is realpolitiks grand strategy or I have to take this game somewhere else?
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r8 my borders

Man HoI4 is such a clusterfuck.
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>>168534080
Does the play-doh look not bother you? Everything being colorful and shiny?
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;_;7
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>>168534609
what the fuck is this screenshot
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>>168533027

>this whole post

I'm so fucking happy at least one fucking person gets it

Ck2 is my ultimate guilty pleasure but honestly Johan's fetish for the supremacy of the terrain mapmode is a disgusting direction for grand strategy
>>
what do you do after securing yourself a large kingdom in ck2? I still have some cleaning up to do but I have no idea if there is anything fun to do after reaching a point where you have a high crown authority and more than 30k in available levies
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>>168535325
Quit or continue same save from a different kingdom.
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>>168534590
It's grand strategy but it's even more baby than HOI4.
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>>168535030

for some reason Russia is the same colour as afghanistan, so I had to go into resource mode to even be able to see the borders.

Also I'm running on low graphics because there's so much shit going on and the game has slowed to a crawl.
>>
>>168535325
once you've fulfilled your territorial ambitions, i do one of two things
>switch to a vassal and try to take over
>switch to a different country
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Reminder that Morocco is the most based Muslim nation.
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>>168535571
no I mean, why have you zoomed in like that? Its way too fucking pixelated to see what the fuck is going on
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>>168535528
What makes it baby? Not enough sliders?
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>>168532770
Imperium Universalis, I think.
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>>168535785
>Muslim
>based
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>>168532464
>playing in terrain map mode

Kys
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>>168536254
All Muslim nations are shit tier, but even the shit tier has internal rankings. Morocco is at the top.
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>>168536275
I'm not playing in terrain mapmode lol
You can see the terrain through the political mapmode colors
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>>168534080
It's definitely NOT better, it looks like wet playdoh mixed with recycled coloured paper with a cheap water texture layered underneath a ripple effect
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>>168505903
Do Scotland for the Auld Alliance Reverse achievement. Iron Man it as well.
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>>168536484
>recycled coloured paper
>He says this while talking up the brightly colored and completely flat EU3 map, which literally DOES look like colored bits of construction paper glued together.
>>
>>168534641
No it doesn't. It's part of why I think it looks good. But hoi4 looks much better.
>>
My "coop" partner
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>>168536551
Thanks. I'll do it after my sweden campaign.
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>>168536879
>King Sara
>>
>extended timeline will always be buggy.
>>
>>168536605
>looks like construction paper

what? construction paper looks hairy, and the EU4 map looks like hairy playdoh, is what I'm trying to get at
>>
>>168534725
>An entire, undiscovered planet filled with treasure, spices, silks and nigger slaves
>Spain is conquering the dirty balkans
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>>168537245
I already ate all the colonizers so it's all mine anyway
>>
New Thread
>>168537985
>>168537985
>>168537985
>>168537985
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>>168538159
>20 mosley memes early
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>>168535785
>not Oman, Rojava, Bosnia, Malaysia or Lebanon
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>>168444474
paradox redpill
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>>168528576
>996k gold
>what a stupid event
Huh. Really makes me think.
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>>168538704
>Oman
>Saudis with poo slaves
>Rojava,
>Don't even know what these are.
>Bosnia
>Traitor scum
>Malaysia
>Wannabe Arabs who love terrorism almost as much.
>Lebanon
>Muslim when it has to be ruled by a Christian by law.
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Huh?
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>>168473371
>not just fixing it with console as it happens
pleb
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>>168537727
agree x1
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Why does HoI4 have a superior setting? What does that mean?
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>>168551703
this
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So is Realpolitiks the best recent game for going tall?
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